[Elecraft] K3 Notch Filter

2012-04-27 Thread paulb
Hello folks

Owned my k3 for about 3 years,  performance
is spot on, just one very minor operator feature
that I've never quite got comfortable with;

The K3 notch filter appears to be after the IF system?
eg audio type notch, the S meter does not show any
signal change on steady carrier.

Is this a big deal in the K3 ? 

Other similar price major brand in the shack uses IF type notch
which knocks out the offending signal almost into
the background noise. 

K3 here is latest firmware, with all hardware updates.

Interested to hear comments

reply off  list if preferred


thanks

cheers 
Paul 
zl1ajy



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and JT65

2012-04-27 Thread Jon K Hellan
On 04/26/2012 11:41 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Don Wilhelmw3...@embarqmail.com  wrote:

 ...use Atomic Clock Sync...

 ===
 Or with some wrangling you can bend Windows 7 to your will. As you
 doubtless know already, you can sync it manually whenever you want by
 right-clicking the time/date display at the right end of the taskbar. You
 can make it auto-sync more frequently by following the steps found here:

 http://www.pretentiousname.com/timesync/index.html

 Note that according to the author of this page, the registry value called
 SpecialPollInterval apparently does not do what you want. I am one of those
 who believed that it would, but evidently it doesn't. Anyway, the
 directions posted are kinda ugly but they definitely worked for me.


You can get NTP for Windows from here:
http://www.meinberg.de/english/sw/ntp.htm

NTP is the internet standard for time sync. The server synchs as often 
as necessary, determined by the algorithms of David Mills W3HCF.

If your computer is continuously on, and you have a good internet 
connection, it should keep you within a few tens of microseconds of 
correct time.

Jon LA4RT

 Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 kit status update

2012-04-27 Thread Bill Tubbs
Wayne,

Me. No, really...me. I will suffer the painful slight of being pulled out of 
the l-o-n-g waiting list and help you with this critically important project. 

Bill
WK6A

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Our tech writer just completed the first full draft of the KX3 kit  
 assembly manual, incorporating the latest hardware and procedural  
 changes. Several of us have to review it in detail, then we'll have  
 someone build the radio using these instructions. Getting closer
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] txinh timing?? Measured

2012-04-27 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Mark n2qt wrote:
It's a little bit quicker, full power in about 7-8ms.

if anyone is interested in the pictures I took of the scope, email me
directly and I'll
send you a copy. (about 800k each)

How much of that 7-8ms is part of the normal rise time? The value most 
people are looking for is the delay (if any) between release of txinh 
and the onset of the normal rising edge.


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[Elecraft] Fw: K3 power level suggestion

2012-04-27 Thread Richard Fjeld
Please ignor this.  

Rich, VE3KI, reminded me that the M1-4 can be used for macros.  I had been 
associating them for messages. 

Rich, NØCE

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Fjeld 
To: elecraft posting 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:50 PM
Subject: K3 power level suggestion


Wayne;
Eric;

I know you are busy, and I don't want to be an annoyance, but the more I use 
this radio the better I like it for it's conveniences. 

I am wondering if people would find it nice to be able to have direct keyboard 
entry for power levels if that is possible.  It could save time.  I have been 
using PF1  2 for quick power changes, but it would be nice to have them 
available for other things.

I don't see a 'hold' function shown for the 'SUB' button (preferred).  Or, 
maybe 'QSK' could be moved to a menu.

Just a passing thought for the suggestion box.   Or not.

Richard, NØCE


 
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Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Or of course, use a converter program on your smart phone!!!
;-)

73 de David, M0XDF

On 27 Apr 2012, at 04:59, Don Wilhelm wrote:

 Actually, the conversion is easier to remember than those two formulas.
 The two scales coincide at -40 degrees.
 So for the conversion (either way) first add 40.
 Then if the conversion is from Centigrade to Fahrenheit multiply by 9/5 
 (you will be going to a greater number), but if the conversion is from 
 Fahrenheit to Celcius, multiply by 5/9 (because the result will be a 
 smaller number).  Finally, subtract 40 to get your result.
 
 The skeptical may try several passes with their remembering when to add 
 or subtract 32 degrees, but this formula always works.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 kit status update

2012-04-27 Thread Gary Gregory
Bill,

Your willingness to endure such a painstaking job is admirable..:-)

Your quick...

Chuckle

Gary

On 27 April 2012 16:57, Bill Tubbs cgpi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Wayne,

 Me. No, really...me. I will suffer the painful slight of being pulled out
 of the l-o-n-g waiting list and help you with this critically important
 project.

 Bill
 WK6A

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 26, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

  Our tech writer just completed the first full draft of the KX3 kit
  assembly manual, incorporating the latest hardware and procedural
  changes. Several of us have to review it in detail, then we'll have
  someone build the radio using these instructions. Getting closer
 
  Wayne
  N6KR
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Notch Filter

2012-04-27 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Paul,

Yes, the IF notch is kept outside the AGC - loop. And I am with you on 
this. It would be so nice to have the notch inside the loop.

More than one reason for the notch outside the agc-loop have been 
communicated in this list.

Summing up a few, but please let the experts help me on this:
- A too strong signal cannot be handled well bij the A/D convertor so 
hardware AGC will have to kick in. This is , I think, a good reason, BUT 
only for strong signals.
- Also increasing distortion is mentioned (IMD?) as a problem. Maybe so, 
but I feel that the AGC that decreases the volume of the whole signal is 
also a large distortion. I cannot tell what is worse and how much 
distortion would be audible if the notch was inside the agc-loop (except 
for the hardware AGC)
- is there more?

Anyway, the K3 is a fine rig in many things, but it is not an ideal rig. 
This notch-thing is one of the not ideal features.

73
Arie PA3A
K3 #12xx



Op 27-4-2012 8:10, paulb schreef:
 The K3 notch filter appears to be after the IF system?
 eg audio type notch, the S meter does not show any
 signal change on steady carrier.

 Is this a big deal in the K3 ?


 cheers
 Paul
 zl1ajy



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Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread KU7Y
I just push the switch on my Weller and watch it change from F to C.

I love simple.  Hehehehehe

OK, back in my hole,

Ron, KU7Y
SOWP 5545M
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Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread Monty Shultes
Another trick, you can do C-F in your head:

Double the centigrade temperature, subtract 10% from the product, and add 32 to 
get Fahrenheit.
   10 degrees C =  (2*10-2) + 32 = 50 degrees F

F-C is not so slick, but works:
Subtract 32 from the Fahrenheit temperature, add 11% of the result to itself 
and divide by 2
   50 degrees F =((50-32) + 1.98)/2 = 10 degrees C.



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 kit status update

2012-04-27 Thread Thomas Horsten
Wayne,

This is great news - any chance you can make the draft assembly manual
available on the site? Even if it's still open to corrections I think it
would be much appreciated by many - I for one am anxious to get an idea of
the assembly procedure and start mentally preparing for (hopefully) soon
receiving the kit :)

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 27 April 2012 02:26, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Our tech writer just completed the first full draft of the KX3 kit
 assembly manual, incorporating the latest hardware and procedural
 changes. Several of us have to review it in detail, then we'll have
 someone build the radio using these instructions. Getting closer

 Wayne
 N6KR



 

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[Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread Edward Dickinson III
On this date, 5 years ago Elecraft gave formal announcement of the
impending release of the Elecraft K3 HF Transceiver.  While the leadership
at Elecraft had been toiling away for about a decade developing HF products,
April 27, 2007 was a fulcrum date where the development of products for a
broad audience became apparent.

In the years since then, Elecraft has developed the K-Line, a
complimentary set of products which can have appeal to a wide range of HF
enthusiasts.  Accessories and enhancements continue to be developed.  As
well, Elecraft is now well recognized and respected throughout the world of
amateur radio for its development of high performance products.

No longer are choices limited to 'The Big Three' and a few others.
Elecraft is a substantial, U.S. based producer of amateur radio products
with advanced features that provide good value in the mid-range of pricing
of equipment along with a variety of well thought out kits and more that
allow for budget-based involvement in our hobby.

It is without doubt there are interesting stories to be told from
the five years since 2007.  As well, there are probably plenty from the
earlier years.

It's been a good about 15 years and a stellar 5 years.  I invite the
Elecraft staff and development team members to offer perhaps brief comment
as appropriate on their roles as well as interesting experiences or
difficulties overcome along the path.  This celebration is in your honor!


73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power level suggestion

2012-04-27 Thread drewko
Holding the SUB button links or unlinks the VFOs.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:50:48 -0500, you wrote:

Wayne;
Eric;

I know you are busy, and I don't want to be an annoyance, but the more I use 
this radio the better I like it for it's conveniences. 

I am wondering if people would find it nice to be able to have direct keyboard 
entry for power levels if that is possible.  It could save time.  I have been 
using PF1  2 for quick power changes, but it would be nice to have them 
available for other things.

I don't see a 'hold' function shown for the 'SUB' button (preferred).  Or, 
maybe 'QSK' could be moved to a menu.

Just a passing thought for the suggestion box.   Or not.

Richard, NØCE



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[Elecraft] txinh timing

2012-04-27 Thread Mark n2qt
some have asked about the timing of the onset of carrier (rather than full 
power output)
and the rise time of the carrier after release of TxInh.

There is a bit of jitter in the onset of carrier that changes the onset from 
about 2.5 ms
to 4 ms.  Rise time to 100% is about 5 ms.

(wish I had one of the neat digital storage scopes so I could just read 
these numbers with
the markers instead of squinting at a picture).

Mark n2qt 

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[Elecraft] KX3 kit status update

2012-04-27 Thread Edward R. Cole
Wayne,

Let me review your kit manual while I build my KX3!  I know very bold 
of me, but I was an engineering writer for Hughes Aircraft for three 
years and can provide a thorough procedural edit.

Many times through the years I have produced instruction sheets or 
operation of assembly manuals for my company.  In 1990 I wrote a 
38-page manual for marine radio operators working at the Alaska 
Pipeline terminal in Valdez, AK  (in fact trained 3/4 of the operators).

My website should provide good evidence of my writing abilities.
OK, well it was worth a shot, anyway!

73, Ed - KL7UW

Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:26:59 -0700
From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 kit status update
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net, k...@yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: e3e328da-e7bb-42cc-a6da-426033c11...@elecraft.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Our tech writer just completed the first full draft of the KX3 kit
assembly manual, incorporating the latest hardware and procedural
changes. Several of us have to review it in detail, then we'll have
someone build the radio using these instructions. Getting closer

Wayne
N6KR




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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread stan levandowski
If Ralph Stayer could write an article about his sausage factory that 
made it into the Harvard Business Review and became the basis for case 
studies in business schools for many years...imagine the lessons that 
could be passed on by Eric and Wayne -- innovation, customer service and 
satisfaction, quality, efficiency, communication, utilizing customers' 
feedback, integrity...and they obviously know a thing or two about 
treating their employees well enough so that talking to one of them 
makes one feel more like its a conversation with a company owner ;)

(FYI, the sausage company cited is Johnsonville Sausage.  And they 
*still* sell great beer brats for the grill)

73, Stan WB2LQF
KX1 #2411K1#2994K2# 6980K3#5244 KX3 (on order)K9 #1 
(Cocoa the Chihuahua)
Everything is QRP, even the dog.

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Edward Dickinson III wrote:

  without doubt there are interesting stories to be told from
 the five years since 2007.  As well, there are probably plenty from 
 the
 earlier years.
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Re: [Elecraft] amp

2012-04-27 Thread hawley, charles j jr
They are doing pretty well power wise for a company I once thought was into 
building QRP kits.

Chuck, KE9UW
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on 
behalf of Scott Manthe [scott.man...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:32 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] amp

Wayne and Eric have been pretty honest in the past as to why they don't
currently offer a legal-limit amp, water or air-cooled: price point. The
KPA-1500 would've had to sell for about $6K in kit form, and apparently,
the Elecraft team thought that was too much. Having spent too much time
drooling on it at Dayton, it would've been nice to see it brought to
market, but at that price point, I can understand why Wayne and Eric
decided against it.

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 4/26/12 10:11 PM, Dennis Watkins wrote:
 I wonder why Elecraft doesn't make a water cooled amp, 1500 watts worth.
 No noise..

 Dennis  W7JX
 K3 # 3901

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Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread hawley, charles j jr
I've always liked this one because it demonstrates a real understanding, that 
there are 1.8 F deg in one C deg. And you can deal with the endpoints from 
either conversion direction.
Chuck, KE9UW
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles

Chuck, KE9UW
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on 
behalf of Matt Zilmer [mzil...@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:49 PM
To: d...@w3fpr.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

Nice memory aid!

matt

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:59:05 -0400, you wrote:

Actually, the conversion is easier to remember than those two formulas.
The two scales coincide at -40 degrees.
So for the conversion (either way) first add 40.
Then if the conversion is from Centigrade to Fahrenheit multiply by 9/5
(you will be going to a greater number), but if the conversion is from
Fahrenheit to Celcius, multiply by 5/9 (because the result will be a
smaller number).  Finally, subtract 40 to get your result.

The skeptical may try several passes with their remembering when to add
or subtract 32 degrees, but this formula always works.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/26/2012 10:10 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
 On 4/26/2012 4:26 PM, W9HAK wrote:
 I have a new solder iron that is temperature controlled in degrees
 C. What temp should I set the iron for work on  the K3? I am using
 60/40 rosin core, small diameter solder. While using solder wick to
 clean out the holes from the 12 dc mod kit I used 300c and dipped the
 wick in solder flux. I pulled the solder wick across the land when
 the solder was liquid, it cleaned the holes on the first pass.
 F = 32 + (9 * C) / 5
 C = [(F-32) * 5] / 9

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
 - www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] txinh timing

2012-04-27 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Mark n2qt wrote:
some have asked about the timing of the onset of carrier (rather than 
full power output) and the rise time of the carrier after release of 
TxInh.

There is a bit of jitter in the onset of carrier that changes the onset 
from
about 2.5 ms
to 4 ms.  Rise time to 100% is about 5 ms.


Thanks, Mark.

-- 

73 from Ian GM3SEK
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread David O'Leary
On 4/27/2012 6:55 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
 Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

I try to minimize the number of formulas I need to remember.
This one has served me well
1.8C=F-32
Replace the known value, and solve for the unknown.

Or if you only need to be close enough for government work, you can do 
it in your head and use 2 instead of 1.8, and use a bit of Kentucky 
windage to reduce the result a smidge.

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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread NZ0T
Elecraft would be a great case study for graduate level business students. 
Way back in the '70's when I was studying for my MBA we used Winnebago as a
case study but Elecraft is much, much more interesting plus being a heck of
a lot more positive then learning how Winnebago handled the fuel cost crisis
of the 70's.

73 Bill NZ0T

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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread Wayne Burdick
Dick,

Thanks for this little anniversary present. It has been a bit of a  
wild ride over the past five years.

It may appear that our product strategy has been carefully  
premeditated. Truth is, we've just designed what we, as operators,  
really wanted for ourselves. Fortunately for Elecraft, the radios and  
accessories we've envisioned have appealed to others as well.

Another important factor: we've attracted some very talented and  
motivated engineers. They share our enthusiasm for the radio art, and  
enjoy the challenge of designing outside-the-box products.

Above all, we have the world's greatest customers. This stems in part  
from our long-time focus on kits. Kit-building is educational for  
individuals, but also creates legions of experts who take a lot of  
pride in helping new builders with both construction and operation.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


Edward Dickinson III wrote:

   On this date, 5 years ago Elecraft gave formal announcement of the
 impending release of the Elecraft K3 HF Transceiver.  While the  
 leadership
 at Elecraft had been toiling away for about a decade developing HF  
 products,
 April 27, 2007 was a fulcrum date where the development of products  
 for a
 broad audience became apparent.

   In the years since then, Elecraft has developed the K-Line, a
 complimentary set of products which can have appeal to a wide range  
 of HF
 enthusiasts.


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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread Wayne Burdick
Let's put solar panels on the roofs of those Winnebagos and turn them  
into hybrids.

Wayne


On Apr 27, 2012, at 8:34 AM, NZ0T wrote:

 Elecraft would be a great case study for graduate level business  
 students.
 Way back in the '70's when I was studying for my MBA we used  
 Winnebago as a
 case study but Elecraft is much, much more interesting plus being a  
 heck of
 a lot more positive then learning how Winnebago handled the fuel  
 cost crisis
 of the 70's.

 73 Bill NZ0T

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Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread N5GE

What do all these metric conversion posts have to do with the OP's question?

He asked what the temperature of his iron should be to solder K3 boards and
received the CORRECT ANSWER almost immediately.

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:47:23 +, hawley, charles j jr
c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:

I've always liked this one because it demonstrates a real understanding, that 
there are 1.8 F deg in one C deg. And you can deal with the endpoints from 
either conversion direction.
Chuck, KE9UW
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles

Chuck, KE9UW
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on 
behalf of Matt Zilmer [mzil...@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:49 PM
To: d...@w3fpr.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

Nice memory aid!

matt

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:59:05 -0400, you wrote:

Actually, the conversion is easier to remember than those two formulas.
The two scales coincide at -40 degrees.
So for the conversion (either way) first add 40.
Then if the conversion is from Centigrade to Fahrenheit multiply by 9/5
(you will be going to a greater number), but if the conversion is from
Fahrenheit to Celcius, multiply by 5/9 (because the result will be a
smaller number).  Finally, subtract 40 to get your result.

The skeptical may try several passes with their remembering when to add
or subtract 32 degrees, but this formula always works.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/26/2012 10:10 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
 On 4/26/2012 4:26 PM, W9HAK wrote:
 I have a new solder iron that is temperature controlled in degrees
 C. What temp should I set the iron for work on  the K3? I am using
 60/40 rosin core, small diameter solder. While using solder wick to
 clean out the holes from the 12 dc mod kit I used 300c and dipped the
 wick in solder flux. I pulled the solder wick across the land when
 the solder was liquid, it cleaned the holes on the first pass.
 F = 32 + (9 * C) / 5
 C = [(F-32) * 5] / 9

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
 - www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread Barry LaZar
Wayne,
  I built a K2, KX1, and a few other things. The K2 was built way 
before the K3 may have been a gleam in your eye, however I see no 
reference to that spectacular piece of radio gear. It may not have had 
the gee whiz factor of the K3, but let me tell you, on a Field Day site 
with lots of radios going at once, it would outperform the competition. 
As far as I'm concerned, Elecraft made it at that point; the K3 just 
make the company even more competitive in a flashy environment.

 No question about it Elecraft has become world competitor in the 
radio world, and may be a leader in the world of what you can put into a 
small package and have it mean something. I have no idea where you can 
go from here, but wherever it is, I suspect it will be interesting.

Vy 73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 4/27/2012 11:48 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Dick,

 Thanks for this little anniversary present. It has been a bit of a
 wild ride over the past five years.

 It may appear that our product strategy has been carefully
 premeditated. Truth is, we've just designed what we, as operators,
 really wanted for ourselves. Fortunately for Elecraft, the radios and
 accessories we've envisioned have appealed to others as well.

 Another important factor: we've attracted some very talented and
 motivated engineers. They share our enthusiasm for the radio art, and
 enjoy the challenge of designing outside-the-box products.

 Above all, we have the world's greatest customers. This stems in part
 from our long-time focus on kits. Kit-building is educational for
 individuals, but also creates legions of experts who take a lot of
 pride in helping new builders with both construction and operation.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 Edward Dickinson III wrote:

  On this date, 5 years ago Elecraft gave formal announcement of the
 impending release of the Elecraft K3 HF Transceiver.  While the
 leadership
 at Elecraft had been toiling away for about a decade developing HF
 products,
 April 27, 2007 was a fulcrum date where the development of products
 for a
 broad audience became apparent.

  In the years since then, Elecraft has developed the K-Line, a
 complimentary set of products which can have appeal to a wide range
 of HF
 enthusiasts.

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[Elecraft] K3 / KX3 extended fm receive frequencies

2012-04-27 Thread John Lally
Are there any plans to extend the fm receive frequencies in either the K3
and/or the KX3?  I am interested in receiving broadcast band fm and public
service fm in the 2 meter band.

 

Thanks

 

John Lally

W7JJL

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Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread Terry Schieler
Pretty cool trick, Monty.  But I'll stick with just touching the tip of the 
iron to my tongue.  Much less painful than doin' the math!  ;o)

Terry, W0FM



-Original Message-
From: Monty Shultes [mailto:mon...@mindspring.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

Another trick, you can do C-F in your head:

Double the centigrade temperature, subtract 10% from the product, and add 32 to 
get Fahrenheit.
   10 degrees C =  (2*10-2) + 32 = 50 degrees F

F-C is not so slick, but works:
Subtract 32 from the Fahrenheit temperature, add 11% of the result to itself 
and divide by 2
   50 degrees F =((50-32) + 1.98)/2 = 10 degrees C.





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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
It is a pleasure supporting a great company with great people with great 
products.  Like many I try to support USA companies when at all 
possible.  Elecraft makes this a no brainer.

I love my K3's, KPA500, P3 and more!  Thanks for building superior 
products at reasonable prices.

It was fun to build my equipment with my son.  I think it creates a 
special bond between builder and radio.  I wish there were more projects 
of similar quality in the ham market place.

Keep up the fantastic work!

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


On 4/27/2012 9:48 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Dick,

 Thanks for this little anniversary present. It has been a bit of a
 wild ride over the past five years.

 It may appear that our product strategy has been carefully
 premeditated. Truth is, we've just designed what we, as operators,
 really wanted for ourselves. Fortunately for Elecraft, the radios and
 accessories we've envisioned have appealed to others as well.

 Another important factor: we've attracted some very talented and
 motivated engineers. They share our enthusiasm for the radio art, and
 enjoy the challenge of designing outside-the-box products.

 Above all, we have the world's greatest customers. This stems in part
 from our long-time focus on kits. Kit-building is educational for
 individuals, but also creates legions of experts who take a lot of
 pride in helping new builders with both construction and operation.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 Edward Dickinson III wrote:

  On this date, 5 years ago Elecraft gave formal announcement of the
 impending release of the Elecraft K3 HF Transceiver.  While the
 leadership
 at Elecraft had been toiling away for about a decade developing HF
 products,
 April 27, 2007 was a fulcrum date where the development of products
 for a
 broad audience became apparent.

  In the years since then, Elecraft has developed the K-Line, a
 complimentary set of products which can have appeal to a wide range
 of HF
 enthusiasts.

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Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread Bill K9YEQ
How simple.  It goes into my desktop reference.  Thanks, Don!

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:59 PM
To: k6...@foothill.net
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

Actually, the conversion is easier to remember than those two formulas.
The two scales coincide at -40 degrees.
So for the conversion (either way) first add 40.
Then if the conversion is from Centigrade to Fahrenheit multiply by 9/5 (you
will be going to a greater number), but if the conversion is from Fahrenheit
to Celcius, multiply by 5/9 (because the result will be a smaller number).
Finally, subtract 40 to get your result.

The skeptical may try several passes with their remembering when to add or
subtract 32 degrees, but this formula always works.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/26/2012 10:10 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
 On 4/26/2012 4:26 PM, W9HAK wrote:
 I have a new solder iron that is temperature controlled in degrees C. 
 What temp should I set the iron for work on  the K3? I am using
 60/40 rosin core, small diameter solder. While using solder wick to 
 clean out the holes from the 12 dc mod kit I used 300c and dipped the 
 wick in solder flux. I pulled the solder wick across the land when 
 the solder was liquid, it cleaned the holes on the first pass.
 F = 32 + (9 * C) / 5
 C = [(F-32) * 5] / 9

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
 - www.cqp.org


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 / KX3 extended fm receive frequencies

2012-04-27 Thread Mike Morrow
 Are there any plans to extend the fm receive frequencies in either the K3
 and/or the KX3?

The really useful coverage would be that from 140 to 150 MHz (or at least 142 to
150 MHz), transmit and receive, in order to support MARS operation.  CAP, OTOH,
jumped on the homeland security deep-end high-dollar current military 
state-of-art
NTIA equipment nonsense, for which no amateur equipment is satisfactory.  One 
can
forget about supporting CAP as many of us once did, between 10 to 50 years ago,
but MARS (as yet) has not been quite as consistently foolish.

73,
Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread Nate Bargmann
I've only been an Elecraft customer just over 18 months, and, yes, the
K3 was my initial purchase.  It has more than satisfied my operational
needs.  The P3 purchased a bit over 6 months ago has been icing on the
cake.  Both products are well thought out and work flawlessly together.
Such is the testament of the passion that I think Wayne and Eric have
brought to their enterprise and to amateur radio.

Certainly, the business case study might be interesting, but if it
leaves out the passion of the principles, its lessons will be lost on
the students.  Conversely, passion can take a company off track and down
blind alleys.  Clearly, Wayne and Eric have employed good business sense
along with their passion and avoided such a trap.

REgardless, I wish Wayne, Eric, and all at Elecraft yesrs of continued
success and thanks for the fine experience.

73, de Nate, N0NB 

-- 

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possible worlds.  The pessimist fears this is true.

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Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread Bill K9YEQ
:-)  Funny!

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Terry Schieler
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 11:45 AM
To: 'Monty Shultes'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

Pretty cool trick, Monty.  But I'll stick with just touching the tip of the
iron to my tongue.  Much less painful than doin' the math!  ;o)

Terry, W0FM

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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread Arthur Burke
Five years ago - almost to the day - I attended my first (and, thus far,
only) DX convention in Visalia. Barely a week or two before heading for the
convention, I had delivered my unbuilt K2 kit to W4DAS for construction. I
saw on the Elecraft web site that the visually impaired hams had volunteers
for building the radio. I didn't qualify for that - I was just frightened
of what I could do with a soldering iron! So, I drove down to Doug's place
of work and dropped everything off, including some funds to pay for the
construction.

When I got to Visalia, it wasn't very long until I wandered into the room
where most of the vendors had set up shop. Lo and behold, there was the K3.
Damn! Picked up a brochure and wandered away, disgruntled and disappointed
that my brand-new K2 was already obsolete.

Fast forward

Obviously, my K2 was *not* rendered obsolete. When I returned from the
trip, I drove back down the turnpike to Doug's place and picked up my newly
built K2. Doug was very much (and apparently still is) an Elecraft
groupie (I write that as a complimentary term) and can often be found at
ham gatherings somewhere in or around the Elecraft booth. He asked me if I
had seen the new K3.

I expressed my chagrin that I barely got my K2 and here was the K3. My
analysis was that the K2 looked very much like it was built from a kit,
while the K3 looked very much like a professionally manufactured rig.
Needless to say, it wasn't very long before the specs (and the slobbering
began!) convinced many users the K3 was the state-of-the-art rig for many
of them. Events following that point are well-known. It wasn't too long
before I also ordered my K3 (a friend semi-shamed me into ordering the kit
- and I was glad he did!) and found a buyer for my K2 - wish I hadn't,
but

Like my friend, Doug, from that point I've been an Elecraft drink the
kool-aid guy. Despite five terrific years having elapsed between the K3
and the KX3, one can only hope it's just another chapter in a long, long
book.

To Wayne, Eric and a great staff, it's been a great ride and the amusement
park is still growing!

Art - N4PJ



On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:34 AM, NZ0T nz0t...@gmail.com wrote:

 Elecraft would be a great case study for graduate level business students.
 Way back in the '70's when I was studying for my MBA we used Winnebago as a
 case study but Elecraft is much, much more interesting plus being a heck of
 a lot more positive then learning how Winnebago handled the fuel cost
 crisis
 of the 70's.

 73 Bill NZ0T

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[Elecraft] KX-3 microphone question

2012-04-27 Thread Linda and Bob
Can you use the Yamaha CM-500 head set with the KX-3? I use this headset 
with my K3/100. It works very well with this radio. I believe the CM-500 
came with some kind of adaptor plug for the mic input (1/8 to 1/4 or vice 
versa?). I don't believe the speaker plug will be a problem using this 
headset with the KX-3. I know that Elecraft sells a Heil Pro-headset with 
the proper adapter plugs for the KX-3, but it is much more expensive than 
the Yamaha CM-500. Does the main VFO knob on the KX-3 have a nicer feel than 
the K3?

I would also like to hear some feedback from the new users of the KX-3. How 
do you like the RX, DSP filtering, how does the KX-3 RX compares ot the K3 
etc? Thanks for your help.

Bob Wilderman, K3SRO
dlrwi...@verizon.net


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[Elecraft] K3 Remote Manual

2012-04-27 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hi,

 

In www.elecraft .com there´s a manual “Revision A, April 4, 2012”

 

I received my remoterig with a manual “Revision A, March 27, 2012”

 

Anyone know specifically what changed in the new manual?

 

Thanks,

Jorge

CX6VM/CW5W

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Blanker video

2012-04-27 Thread Jack Berry
Thanks Rick - well done!





From: Rick Stealey rstea...@hotmail.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thu, April 26, 2012 9:08:33 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Blanker video


I made a 2 minute video this morning showing how the K3 pulls out a 75 meter AM 
QSO 

that was covered by ugly line noise.
Also see how the FT-1000MP tried to cope with the noise, but came up short.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpC5RYvh5oUfeature=youtu.be

Rick  K2XT
  
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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread Terry Schieler
It may not have begun this way intentionally, but Elecraft has morphed into a 
design/build company, with its customers happily tagging along as unpaid 
consultants.

Congratulations guys!

Terry, W0FM


-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 10:48 AM
To: Edward Dickinson III
Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector '
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

Dick,

Thanks for this little anniversary present. It has been a bit of a wild ride 
over the past five years.

It may appear that our product strategy has been carefully premeditated. Truth 
is, we've just designed what we, as operators, really wanted for ourselves. 
Fortunately for Elecraft, the radios and accessories we've envisioned have 
appealed to others as well.

Another important factor: we've attracted some very talented and motivated 
engineers. They share our enthusiasm for the radio art, and enjoy the challenge 
of designing outside-the-box products.

Above all, we have the world's greatest customers. This stems in part from our 
long-time focus on kits. Kit-building is educational for individuals, but also 
creates legions of experts who take a lot of pride in helping new builders with 
both construction and operation.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] KX-3 microphone question

2012-04-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bob,

The CM500 will plug right into the KX3.  You can use VOX, or tap the 
XMIT button for T/R switching.
You also could create an adapter to pull the PTT line out from the ring 
of the mic plug.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/27/2012 1:16 PM, Linda and Bob wrote:
 Can you use the Yamaha CM-500 head set with the KX-3? I use this headset
 with my K3/100. It works very well with this radio. I believe the CM-500
 came with some kind of adaptor plug for the mic input (1/8 to 1/4 or vice
 versa?). I don't believe the speaker plug will be a problem using this
 headset with the KX-3. I know that Elecraft sells a Heil Pro-headset with
 the proper adapter plugs for the KX-3, but it is much more expensive than
 the Yamaha CM-500. Does the main VFO knob on the KX-3 have a nicer feel than
 the K3?

 I would also like to hear some feedback from the new users of the KX-3. How
 do you like the RX, DSP filtering, how does the KX-3 RX compares ot the K3
 etc? Thanks for your help.


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Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread Randy Farmer
It won't work for SMD stuff, but over the years I've had great success 
using a classic Ungar 27W cartridge (which I seem to remember was around 
850°F) with a screw-ON 1/8 screwdriver tip for just about everything 
but the heaviest jobs. This includes lots of building stuff with 
standard through-hole DIP components. I never overcooked anything. The 
beauty of a big hot iron is it lets you get in, heat the work and get 
off quickly. Low wattage irons just cook the components and the board. 
Nowadays, like everybody else, I use a very small iron that produces a 
750°F tip temperature for the small parts and dense connector pins, but 
I still use the old one for most everything else. It's the curse of the 
OFs: our eyesight continually gets worse as the parts continually get 
smaller.

73...
Randy, W8FN

On 04/26/2012 18:26, W9HAK wrote:
 I have a new solder iron that is temperature
 controlled in degrees C.
 What temp should I set the iron for work on  the
 K3? I am using 60/40
 rosin core, small diameter solder. While using
 solder wick to clean out
 the holes from the 12 dc mod kit I used 300c and
 dipped the wick in
 solder flux. I pulled the solder wick across the
 land when the solder
 was liquid, it cleaned the holes on the first pass.

 Smith Bradford
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Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread KQ8M
Randy,

I must make a comment about a couple of your statements.

One, we are age challenged not OF's. Come on got to be PC. Eh?

The other is the parts aren't actually getting smaller. We have to hold them
farther away cause of our glasses so they look smaller!

OK, it was all tongue in check. The blasted things are getting so darn small
even magnifying glasses don't work for this OF's eyes!

Tim Herrick, KQ8M
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Randy Farmer
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:15 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

It won't work for SMD stuff, but over the years I've had great success 
using a classic Ungar 27W cartridge (which I seem to remember was around 
850°F) with a screw-ON 1/8 screwdriver tip for just about everything 
but the heaviest jobs. This includes lots of building stuff with 
standard through-hole DIP components. I never overcooked anything. The 
beauty of a big hot iron is it lets you get in, heat the work and get 
off quickly. Low wattage irons just cook the components and the board. 
Nowadays, like everybody else, I use a very small iron that produces a 
750°F tip temperature for the small parts and dense connector pins, but 
I still use the old one for most everything else. It's the curse of the 
OFs: our eyesight continually gets worse as the parts continually get 
smaller.

73...
Randy, W8FN

On 04/26/2012 18:26, W9HAK wrote:
 I have a new solder iron that is temperature
 controlled in degrees C.
 What temp should I set the iron for work on  the
 K3? I am using 60/40
 rosin core, small diameter solder. While using
 solder wick to clean out
 the holes from the 12 dc mod kit I used 300c and
 dipped the wick in
 solder flux. I pulled the solder wick across the
 land when the solder
 was liquid, it cleaned the holes on the first pass.

 Smith Bradford
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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread Tony Estep
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:34 AM, NZ0T nz0t...@gmail.com wrote:

 Elecraft would be a great case study for graduate level business
 students...

===
As a sometime grad-school business prof, I often tend to think about case
studies of companies I do business with. But in the case of Elecraft, the
case study wouldn't have enough sturm und drang. It's a great story, and
continues to be a source of pride for Elecraft's customers, as well as for
those who have built this most excellent company. But what made Elecraft
succeed you can't teach or learn in business school: they simply designed
products that provide a superior user experience and a better value
proposition. Heck, any company can succeed if they can do that -- no
strategy required!

There is a lot to be learned from the ups and downs of companies battling
in niche markets like that for ham radio gear, but Elecraft has dodged the
bullets and avoided the mis-steps that make a case study compelling. The
kind of case that teaches the students a lot comes from the opposite end of
the management spectrum. To illustrate; here's a quote that I used in a
class presentation last year:


*“It is hard for us, without being flippant, to even see a scenario within
any kind of realm of reason that would see us losing one dollar in any of
those transactions.”  **— Joseph J. Cassano, former head of the CDS group
at A.I.G., August 2007*

*
*

This summarizes in one sentence one of the most expensive management
blunders in all U.S. corporate history, and offers a rich banquet of
learning possibilities for the budding MBAs.


Tony KT0NY








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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread NZ0T
Yes, Elecraft products are tops but in my mind the case study would be about
the excellent customer service that Elecraft provides.  I have dealt with
very few organizations that have been as responsive and helpful as Elecraft
and IMHO that ability to respond to customers is just as important as the
products themselves.  One of my first bosses many years ago always said that
every company makes mistakes - it's how they respond to those mistakes that
makes all the difference.

Elecraft makes very few mistakes in the first place but when they do the
response is cheerful, immediate and always helpful.  I don't know if it's
the highly decentralized (but highly communicative via the internet)
organization or just a top-down attitude but I think many organizations
could learn a lot by studying Elecraft.

73 Bill NZ0T

P.S. Does this post get me anything free or at a dep discount ? 

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[Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction question

2012-04-27 Thread Fred Jensen
I operate mainly CW and while the NB is very effective for me on CW, 
I've never seen much advantage to the NR at narrow CW bandwidths.  I had 
occasion to be on SSB this week attempting to work several SOTA summit 
activations, and tried the NR.  At the wider SSB BW, it made a great 
difference.

With NR however, even at F1-1 [which I think means least aggressive], 
while the nasty line noise really fell, the SSB signal acquired a 
profound echo which made it very hard to understand.  I'm running FW4.39 
and whatever DSP came with it.  Is this reverberation [it's more like 
that than a distinct echo, like talking through a long pipe] normal? 
The further up the NR scale I went, the more pronounced it got, and 
beyond F1-4, the signal was indecipherable.

Full Disclosure:  My hearing sucks and has since one night in 1965 on 
the other side of the planet, so me telling you what something sounds 
like can be somewhat of a joke.  I can't use my hearing aids under my 
headphones, so I run the AF gain high [afterburner roar or close], but 
the reverb effect definitely is controlled by the NR.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread Bill K9YEQ
You might not get acknowledgment or a freebee. 

I would echo your comments.  It is customer service with the focus on
providing a product which we want.  You cannot beat Elecraft.   I have yet
to find superior customer service like theirs anywhere.  I hope this not a
signal for them to back off... :-).  Wayne and Eric are our kind of guys (at
least I hope they include us).  They are small business oriented and have
been very involved in the design and production of all products.  They are
not the Gates or Jobs of this world trying to make a super $.  I think
Wayne's post explains their take on what they love to do.  It's not about
gouging for $'s but the enjoyment of what one does.  Wayne's history is full
of his contribution to our hobby.  My wilderness radio back in the late 90'
is how I found him and the K2. His partnership with Eric and the entire team
make this whole thing run so well.  Their expansion of products, I am sure,
has probably driven them a little hard.  But, they actually play with their
new inventions/toys.  Eric is our high power man.  He called me to give a
heads up on an issue with my THP HL-2.5KFX.  That to me was extraordinary.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of NZ0T
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 3:19 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

Yes, Elecraft products are tops but in my mind the case study would be about
the excellent customer service that Elecraft provides.  I have dealt with
very few organizations that have been as responsive and helpful as Elecraft
and IMHO that ability to respond to customers is just as important as the
products themselves.  One of my first bosses many years ago always said that
every company makes mistakes - it's how they respond to those mistakes that
makes all the difference.

Elecraft makes very few mistakes in the first place but when they do the
response is cheerful, immediate and always helpful.  I don't know if it's
the highly decentralized (but highly communicative via the internet)
organization or just a top-down attitude but I think many organizations
could learn a lot by studying Elecraft.

73 Bill NZ0T

P.S. Does this post get me anything free or at a dep discount ? 

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Re: [Elecraft] amp

2012-04-27 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Scott,

People are buying foreign made solid state legal limit amps like the Tokyo
Hy-Power HL2.5FX and SPE EXPERT 2K-FA at $6000 plus. I hope the success of
the KPA500 leads Elecraft to reconsider either a 1KW or 1.5KW amp.

73,
Mike K2MK


Scott Manthe-2 wrote
 
 Wayne and Eric have been pretty honest in the past as to why they don't 
 currently offer a legal-limit amp, water or air-cooled: price point. The 
 KPA-1500 would've had to sell for about $6K in kit form, and apparently, 
 the Elecraft team thought that was too much. Having spent too much time 
 drooling on it at Dayton, it would've been nice to see it brought to 
 market, but at that price point, I can understand why Wayne and Eric 
 decided against it.
 
 73,
 Scott, N9AA
 


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[Elecraft] K3 not loading MCU 4.48

2012-04-27 Thread Mike Weir

I noticed on the firmware page MCU 4.48 is available but I am not able to load 
it on my K3. I am using the K3 utility ver 1.12.3.28 which is the latest. The 
utility in forms me of the following.

  Installed on K3  Available
MCU 04.39  0.439
FPF  01.14  01.14
DSP1 02.7302.73
DSP2 02.7302.73

When I check for a newer version I get no indication of a 4.48 ver availble.
Mike
VE3WDM
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction question

2012-04-27 Thread ab2tc
Hi,

Have you tried the NB (*not* NR)? I find it very effective against power
line noise. I use the setting t2-6, IF off. For a long time I was using a
combination of DSP and IF setting, but found that the IF contribution was
little or non-existing, so I switched to DSP NB only.

AB2TC - Knut


k6dgw wrote
 
 I operate mainly CW and while the NB is very effective for me on CW, 
 I've never seen much advantage to the NR at narrow CW bandwidths.  I had 
 occasion to be on SSB this week attempting to work several SOTA summit 
 activations, and tried the NR.  At the wider SSB BW, it made a great 
 difference.
 
 With NR however, even at F1-1 [which I think means least aggressive], 
 while the nasty line noise really fell, the SSB signal acquired a 
 profound echo which made it very hard to understand.  I'm running FW4.39 
 and whatever DSP came with it.  Is this reverberation [it's more like 
 that than a distinct echo, like talking through a long pipe] normal? 
 The further up the NR scale I went, the more pronounced it got, and 
 beyond F1-4, the signal was indecipherable.
 
 Full Disclosure:  My hearing sucks and has since one night in 1965 on 
 the other side of the planet, so me telling you what something sounds 
 like can be somewhat of a joke.  I can't use my hearing aids under my 
 headphones, so I run the AF gain high [afterburner roar or close], but 
 the reverb effect definitely is controlled by the NR.
 
 73,
 
 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
 - www.cqp.org
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction question

2012-04-27 Thread ab2tc
Hi,

Have you tried the NB (*not* NR)? I find it very effective against power
line noise. I use the setting t2-6, IF off. For a long time I was using a
combination of DSP and IF setting, but found that the IF contribution was
little or non-existing, so I switched to DSP NB only.

AB2TC - Knut


k6dgw wrote
 
 I operate mainly CW and while the NB is very effective for me on CW, 
 I've never seen much advantage to the NR at narrow CW bandwidths.  I had 
 occasion to be on SSB this week attempting to work several SOTA summit 
 activations, and tried the NR.  At the wider SSB BW, it made a great 
 difference.
 
 With NR however, even at F1-1 [which I think means least aggressive], 
 while the nasty line noise really fell, the SSB signal acquired a 
 profound echo which made it very hard to understand.  I'm running FW4.39 
 and whatever DSP came with it.  Is this reverberation [it's more like 
 that than a distinct echo, like talking through a long pipe] normal? 
 The further up the NR scale I went, the more pronounced it got, and 
 beyond F1-4, the signal was indecipherable.
 
 Full Disclosure:  My hearing sucks and has since one night in 1965 on 
 the other side of the planet, so me telling you what something sounds 
 like can be somewhat of a joke.  I can't use my hearing aids under my 
 headphones, so I run the AF gain high [afterburner roar or close], but 
 the reverb effect definitely is controlled by the NR.
 
 73,
 
 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
 - www.cqp.org
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 not loading MCU 4.48

2012-04-27 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Have you clicked the Copy Files from Elecraft button on the K3 Utility
Firmware tab?  I just did this, and it fetched 04.48 from the FTP site.

See K3 Utility Help, Getting Started, next to last step.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Weir
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:23 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 not loading MCU 4.48


I noticed on the firmware page MCU 4.48 is available but I am not able to
load it on my K3. I am using the K3 utility ver 1.12.3.28 which is the
latest. The utility in forms me of the following.

  Installed on K3  Available
MCU 04.39  0.439
FPF  01.14  01.14
DSP1 02.7302.73
DSP2 02.7302.73

When I check for a newer version I get no indication of a 4.48 ver availble.
Mike
VE3WDM
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 not loading MCU 4.48

2012-04-27 Thread Matt Zilmer
You probably need to copy all the new firmware using the push button
in the K3 utility.  Place it in its own folder, from which you can
download it into the K3.

matt W6NIA

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:23:22 -0400, you wrote:


I noticed on the firmware page MCU 4.48 is available but I am not able to load 
it on my K3. I am using the K3 utility ver 1.12.3.28 which is the latest. The 
utility in forms me of the following.

  Installed on K3  Available
MCU 04.39  0.439
FPF  01.14  01.14
DSP1 02.7302.73
DSP2 02.7302.73

When I check for a newer version I get no indication of a 4.48 ver availble.
Mike
VE3WDM
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction question

2012-04-27 Thread Fred Jensen
On 4/27/2012 2:32 PM, ab2tc wrote:
 Hi,

 Have you tried the NB (*not* NR)? I find it very effective against power
 line noise. I use the setting t2-6, IF off. For a long time I was using a
 combination of DSP and IF setting, but found that the IF contribution was
 little or non-existing, so I switched to DSP NB only.

Yeppers, my K3 is S/N 642 [it tells me every time I power up just in 
case I forget :-)] and I have used NB consistently on both CW and SSB. 
IF NB often drops the level 2 S-Units or sometimes 3.  Both IF and DSP 
seem to be quite sensitive to the character of the noise, I run the DSP 
between T1-5 and T2-3 usually, IF is usually on NAR 3 or 4.

On CW, I've never found much benefit from NR, regardless of the 
aggression setting, which I've always attributed to a 150-250 Hz BW. 
When running in a contest, I'll usually run the BW at 450-500 so I can 
spot off-freq callers and the NR seems to have slightly more effect at 
the wider BW.  Since I got the P3 however, I can *see* the off-freq 
callers however and just go to them with RIT.

I don't think I've ever really tried NR on SSB until this week, when I 
noticed the reverb effect.  NB is equally effective on SSB as on CW, the 
setting is usually a bit different though at the wider BW.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 not loading MCU 4.48

2012-04-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike,

Note that your listing shows 4.39 is Installed on your K3  and also that 
same version is Available
That means that 4.39 is the highest level available on your computer.  
You must click on Get New Files fron Elecraft to download them into 
your computer.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/27/2012 5:23 PM, Mike Weir wrote:
 I noticed on the firmware page MCU 4.48 is available but I am not able to 
 load it on my K3. I am using the K3 utility ver 1.12.3.28 which is the 
 latest. The utility in forms me of the following.

Installed on K3  Available
 MCU 04.39  0.439
 FPF  01.14  01.14
 DSP1 02.7302.73
 DSP2 02.7302.73

 When I check for a newer version I get no indication of a 4.48 ver availble.
 Mike
 VE3WDM

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[Elecraft] P3 Firmware 1.16 and SVGA 1.04 now available

2012-04-27 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
P3 Version 1.16, SVGA version 1.04 and P3 Utility version 1.12.4.26 are all
now available from the Elecraft website.   We are suggesting that users
update their P3 Utility to the latest version. 

P3 Utility is available at:
http://www.elecraft.com/software/P3/P3_Utility_Setup_1_12_4_26.exe
P3 1.16 and SVGA 1.04:
http://www.elecraft.com/software/elecraft_software_page.htm


MCU 01.16 / 4-27-2012

•   Faster P3 Utility response when no SVGA board is installed
•   Added the menu selection, MENU : SVGA menu : SVGA FW to display the
revision numbers of SVGA firmware and FPGA images.
•   Disabling the SVGA now blanks the external display.
•   The external display waterfall color bias is initialized properly at
power-up.
•   The AVERAGE and MKRA/B parameter adjustment text on the external display
is removed when the adjustment is exited on the P3.
•   The VFB RS-232 command now works with the SVGA display.
•   MKR A and MKR B adjustment text on the external display is still on 
after
changing SVGA resolution and after the un-QSY function.
•   The waterfall height adjustment on the external display is terminated 
when
pressing a toggle key on the P3.
•   The display frequency is correct when K3 RIT is on after switching from
tracking to fixed-tune mode.
•   Fixed an intermittent bug in the #QSY RS-232 command.
•   VFO B cursor displays correctly when VFO B is on a different band.
•   The auto-baud of the K3 RS-232 port works again.  (It broke in version
1.06.)

P3SVGA 01.04 / 4-20-2012

•   Added U-shaped bracket style cursors. 
•   Added 4 optional fonts which can be selected within the P3 SVGA menu. 
•   Numerous screen bug-lets fixed such as thicker separation line between
waterfall and spectrum, removed dark space on right of waterfall, removed
hanging marker frequency lines, disappearing marker highlight when filter
width was narrow, window formatting etc.
•   Added monochrome waterfall color table. 
•   Spectrum trace no longer resets (sags) when VFO A or B is tuned in fixed
tune mode.
•   Added waterfall color bias, available in P3 SVGA menu.
•   Top and bottom tick marks now move when tuning VFO A in tracking mode. 
•   Spectrum/Waterfall screen update speed increased slightly. 
•   Vertical white line center frequency added when in tracking mode. 
•   Transmit cursor now displays ‘under’ VFO A cursor. 
•   Trace averaging now resets using un-averaged data instead of zero. 
•   Fixed RIT bug where RIT was not being displayed correctly. 
•   Fixed I/Q sync bug that caused high noise to display on spectrum when 
span
changed.
•   Fixed jumping 200 Hz VFO A/B cursors in fixed tune mode. 

Known Issues: 
1) When CenterEn is enabled on the P3 in tracking mode and the center
frequency is changed, the SVGA frequency does not stay in sync.  This will
be addressed in a future release. 

2) Several users have seen what appears to be flickering in the waterfall
display.  This is not a bug - Its the normal optical result of scrolling
discrete pixelated data and noise up one line at a time across the whole
waterfall.  It happens on the smaller P3 screen too, but it is not as
evident to your eye due to the smaller size.  The effect can be minimized by
setting averaging to 2 and then enabling waterfall averaging. 

3) 1920x1080 resolution does not correctly sync horizontally on some
monitors.  We are aware of this problem and are seeking a solution.  In the
meantime we suggest using 1440x900 resolution. 

73, 

Paul



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction question

2012-04-27 Thread Don Wilhelm
Fred,

Perhaps an explanation of how NR works will help you understand what you 
are hearing a bit better.  The NR algorithm looks for some sequence that 
it can define as a signal, and then builds a filter around it.  The type 
of filter is determined by the parameters you have set.

That is why you have found there is no need for NR when using CW with 
narrow filters.  On SSB, yes, some settings can sound pretty ratty.  
Enough so that I do not use it on SSB.  But do give some of the settings 
above 4-4 a try - those use a different algorithm and may be worthwhile 
when needed.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/27/2012 4:58 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
 I operate mainly CW and while the NB is very effective for me on CW,
 I've never seen much advantage to the NR at narrow CW bandwidths.  I had
 occasion to be on SSB this week attempting to work several SOTA summit
 activations, and tried the NR.  At the wider SSB BW, it made a great
 difference.

 With NR however, even at F1-1 [which I think means least aggressive],
 while the nasty line noise really fell, the SSB signal acquired a
 profound echo which made it very hard to understand.  I'm running FW4.39
 and whatever DSP came with it.  Is this reverberation [it's more like
 that than a distinct echo, like talking through a long pipe] normal?
 The further up the NR scale I went, the more pronounced it got, and
 beyond F1-4, the signal was indecipherable.

 Full Disclosure:  My hearing sucks and has since one night in 1965 on
 the other side of the planet, so me telling you what something sounds
 like can be somewhat of a joke.  I can't use my hearing aids under my
 headphones, so I run the AF gain high [afterburner roar or close], but
 the reverb effect definitely is controlled by the NR.

 73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 not loading MCU 4.48

2012-04-27 Thread Randy Moore
Not having updated my firmware for a while, this puzzled me too. Perhaps more 
specific wording instead of Available could be considered. 

73,
Randy, KS4L 

On Apr 27, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Mike,
 
 Note that your listing shows 4.39 is Installed on your K3  and also that 
 same version is Available
 That means that 4.39 is the highest level available on your computer.  
 You must click on Get New Files fron Elecraft to download them into 
 your computer.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 4/27/2012 5:23 PM, Mike Weir wrote:
 I noticed on the firmware page MCU 4.48 is available but I am not able to 
 load it on my K3. I am using the K3 utility ver 1.12.3.28 which is the 
 latest. The utility in forms me of the following.
 
   Installed on K3  Available
 MCU 04.39  0.439
 FPF  01.14  01.14
 DSP1 02.7302.73
 DSP2 02.7302.73
 
 When I check for a newer version I get no indication of a 4.48 ver availble.
 Mike
 VE3WDM
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 not loading MCU 4.48

2012-04-27 Thread Bill K9YEQ
One more issue. Be sure to note where you are saving the download.  The K3
Looks to a default.  If you have changed this your desktop will not find
the right version.  If you continue to have an issue, let me know and I will
help you navigate.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick Dievendorff
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 4:44 PM
To: 'Mike Weir'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 not loading MCU 4.48

Have you clicked the Copy Files from Elecraft button on the K3 Utility
Firmware tab?  I just did this, and it fetched 04.48 from the FTP site.

See K3 Utility Help, Getting Started, next to last step.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Weir
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:23 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 not loading MCU 4.48


I noticed on the firmware page MCU 4.48 is available but I am not able to
load it on my K3. I am using the K3 utility ver 1.12.3.28 which is the
latest. The utility in forms me of the following.

  Installed on K3  Available
MCU 04.39  0.439
FPF  01.14  01.14
DSP1 02.7302.73
DSP2 02.7302.73

When I check for a newer version I get no indication of a 4.48 ver availble.
Mike
VE3WDM
  
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Firmware 1.16 and SVGA 1.04 now available

2012-04-27 Thread Jim Sheldon
Thanks Paul,
I really like the ability to set the waterfall color bias on the SVGA.  It now 
looks just like what shows up on the 4 display on the P3.  Even though I'm not 
color blind, using the BW waterfall allows for much better discrimination of 
very weak signals from the noise clutter.  Also, the nice BIG font size makes 
things much more readable at a distance from the big screen.

Jim Sheldon - W0EB

 P3 Version 1.16, SVGA version 1.04 and P3 Utility version 1.12.4.26
 are all
 now available from the Elecraft website.   We are suggesting that
 users
 update their P3 Utility to the latest version.

 P3 Utility is available at:
 http://www.elecraft.com/software/P3/P3_Utility_Setup_1_12_4_26.exe
 P3 1.16 and SVGA 1.04:
 http://www.elecraft.com/software/elecraft_software_page.htm



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction question

2012-04-27 Thread Arthur Burke
I have some tinnitus (sp?) so, when things are really, really quiet, I hear
things
that really aren't there! Aside from that, a recent hearing test indicated
my hearing
was normal for my age (67) and I hear equally well (or equally poor!) with
both ears.

My experience with the NR has been somewhat the opposite of yours. I love
to back the
RF gain down just a tad, turn on the NR (don't remember the exact setting
right off the top
of my head) to where I have to strain to hear band noise. Then, when a
signal does appear, it sort of magically jumps out of the speakers!

Art - N4PJ


On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:

 I operate mainly CW and while the NB is very effective for me on CW,
 I've never seen much advantage to the NR at narrow CW bandwidths.  I had
 occasion to be on SSB this week attempting to work several SOTA summit
 activations, and tried the NR.  At the wider SSB BW, it made a great
 difference.

 With NR however, even at F1-1 [which I think means least aggressive],
 while the nasty line noise really fell, the SSB signal acquired a
 profound echo which made it very hard to understand.  I'm running FW4.39
 and whatever DSP came with it.  Is this reverberation [it's more like
 that than a distinct echo, like talking through a long pipe] normal?
 The further up the NR scale I went, the more pronounced it got, and
 beyond F1-4, the signal was indecipherable.

 Full Disclosure:  My hearing sucks and has since one night in 1965 on
 the other side of the planet, so me telling you what something sounds
 like can be somewhat of a joke.  I can't use my hearing aids under my
 headphones, so I run the AF gain high [afterburner roar or close], but
 the reverb effect definitely is controlled by the NR.

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
 - www.cqp.org

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Firmware 1.16 and SVGA 1.04 now available

2012-04-27 Thread Jim Sheldon
I've already found what looks like a minor bug in SVGA 1.04.  When using 
vertical line cursors, and in SPLIT mode, the red VFO B cursor is always 
wider than the green VFO A cursor line.  If SPLIT is off, the two match.  This 
occurs even if you do a double tap of the AB button to make the subreceiver 
frequency and mode equal to the main (AB All).

Jim - W0EB

 P3 Version 1.16, SVGA version 1.04 and P3 Utility version 1.12.4.26
 are all
 now available from the Elecraft website.   We are suggesting that
 users
 update their P3 Utility to the latest version.

 P3 Utility is available at:
 http://www.elecraft.com/software/P3/P3_Utility_Setup_1_12_4_26.exe
 P3 1.16 and SVGA 1.04:
 http://www.elecraft.com/software/elecraft_software_page.htm


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[Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor - How to save and recall the file??

2012-04-27 Thread Dave Weiss
Hi Everyone:

This should be a no brainer, but it seems that I am unable to save the
three entries that I have made into  00,01,02 slots in anything but an .XML
file type. I have been successful in getting the K3 to upload to the PC
with the 3 locations contents so I know the load went there.

The saved .XML file comes up in a browser window( garbage)...I think that I
should be able to reopen a modified Elecraft K3 Frequency Memory Editor
with my entries.

The basic problem is saving and reopening the saved file.  It just seems to
not work the way I think it should.

Can anyone shed light on this please?  What am I misunderstanding?

This could be a powerful tool for me.

73

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction question

2012-04-27 Thread Robert G. Strickland
I also note the hollow sound to SSB when using the K3 NR. If I use it 
at all, it's at the lowest setting, 1-1. I had the same listening 
experience with the K2 DSP NR unit. It worked well on CW - sometimes 
miraculous - but for my ears, useless on SSB. The K3 NB works on all 
modes, every time. I haven't tried the higher K3 NR setting for SSB, 
being primarily a CW op. Also, my hearing is poor. Hearing aids all the 
time except when under the head phones and operating CW.
...robert


On 4/27/2012 20:58, Fred Jensen wrote:
 I operate mainly CW and while the NB is very effective for me on CW,
 I've never seen much advantage to the NR at narrow CW bandwidths.  I had
 occasion to be on SSB this week attempting to work several SOTA summit
 activations, and tried the NR.  At the wider SSB BW, it made a great
 difference.

 With NR however, even at F1-1 [which I think means least aggressive],
 while the nasty line noise really fell, the SSB signal acquired a
 profound echo which made it very hard to understand.  I'm running FW4.39
 and whatever DSP came with it.  Is this reverberation [it's more like
 that than a distinct echo, like talking through a long pipe] normal?
 The further up the NR scale I went, the more pronounced it got, and
 beyond F1-4, the signal was indecipherable.

 Full Disclosure:  My hearing sucks and has since one night in 1965 on
 the other side of the planet, so me telling you what something sounds
 like can be somewhat of a joke.  I can't use my hearing aids under my
 headphones, so I run the AF gain high [afterburner roar or close], but
 the reverb effect definitely is controlled by the NR.

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
 - www.cqp.org

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Firmware 1.16 and SVGA 1.04 now available

2012-04-27 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

This is only true if you use a non-default bandwidth for the receiver
(e.g., less than 2.8 KHz in SSB, less than 400 Hz for CW).  The split
cursor always shows the default (transmit) bandwidth for the selected
mode.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 4/27/2012 7:18 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
 I've already found what looks like a minor bug in SVGA 1.04.  When using 
 vertical line cursors, and in SPLIT mode, the red VFO B cursor is always 
 wider than the green VFO A cursor line.  If SPLIT is off, the two match.  
 This occurs even if you do a double tap of the AB button to make the 
 subreceiver frequency and mode equal to the main (AB All).

 Jim - W0EB

 P3 Version 1.16, SVGA version 1.04 and P3 Utility version 1.12.4.26
 are all
 now available from the Elecraft website.   We are suggesting that
 users
 update their P3 Utility to the latest version.

 P3 Utility is available at:
 http://www.elecraft.com/software/P3/P3_Utility_Setup_1_12_4_26.exe
 P3 1.16 and SVGA 1.04:
 http://www.elecraft.com/software/elecraft_software_page.htm


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor - How to save and recall the file??

2012-04-27 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Save it as an XML file type. It's an XML file.

Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Weiss
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 4:34 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Memory Editor - How to save and recall the
file??

Hi Everyone:

This should be a no brainer, but it seems that I am unable to save the three
entries that I have made into  00,01,02 slots in anything but an .XML file
type. I have been successful in getting the K3 to upload to the PC with the
3 locations contents so I know the load went there.

The saved .XML file comes up in a browser window( garbage)...I think that I
should be able to reopen a modified Elecraft K3 Frequency Memory Editor
with my entries.

The basic problem is saving and reopening the saved file.  It just seems to
not work the way I think it should.

Can anyone shed light on this please?  What am I misunderstanding?

This could be a powerful tool for me.

73

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Re: [Elecraft] amp

2012-04-27 Thread Kevin
Hi MIke,

There's no good reason for Elecraft to invest the time and money into 
manufacturing a 1-1.5K Watt amp.
The market is very small and the competition is fierce, not only from 
other SS amp manufacturer's but from those that still sell tube type amps.

You can't compete on price with the likes of an Ameritron, QRO, 
Commander (whenever they decide to resurface) and even Alpha.

That leaves features and the more features you add, like stupid proofing 
a SS amp, and the inevitable built-in match 1500W to my rain gutters 
tuner, you've lost the price war.

If you buy an Ameritron AL-1500 with the 8877 Eimac tube, a contest 
proven amp with thousands sold and thousands of hours, you can afford to 
re-tube it twice and still not hit the magic $6K mark.

Solid state amps have come a long way but they have a real long way to 
go before matching the reliability and price point of a tube amp.

I'd love Elecraft to prove me wrong but think they'd be better served by 
focusing their efforts on the K4. The barbarians are at the gate 
performance wise and I'd really like to shove a stick in some FTDX-5000 
owners eyes.


On 04/27/2012 04:10 PM, Mike K2MK wrote:
 Hi Scott,

 People are buying foreign made solid state legal limit amps like the Tokyo
 Hy-Power HL2.5FX and SPE EXPERT 2K-FA at $6000 plus. I hope the success of
 the KPA500 leads Elecraft to reconsider either a 1KW or 1.5KW amp.

 73,
 Mike K2MK


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Firmware 1.16 and SVGA 1.04 now available

2012-04-27 Thread Ed Schuller
Added 4 optional fonts which can be selected within the P3 SVGA menu.

Thanks! Big improvementvery nice

73,
Ed - K6CTA
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[Elecraft] FS: KX1 4 Band Version

2012-04-27 Thread NZ8J
I have a 4 Band Elecraft KX1 for sale that I just bought from
the original owner but found a K2 at the same time so this must go. It
looks and works great!! It is a little over 1 year old. It comes with
the KXB3080 30  80 meter adapter and the KXPD1 Plug in Paddle, power
cord and Sony ear buds. (Does NOT have the built in tuner) All manuals
for the radio and options. Very well constructed. will sell for $335
shipped and insured in the US. Paypal preferred but will accept US
Postal money order.
Thanks 
Tim
NZ8J 

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Re: [Elecraft] Windows4P3 Status

2012-04-27 Thread tomb18
The user manual is now available
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/file/n7507917/w4p3.htm w4p3.htm 

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[Elecraft] yahoo kx3 site??

2012-04-27 Thread richard allen
Anyone know if the yahoo kx3 site is down?

Richard W5SXD
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[Elecraft] K3 P3 OK I have another question.

2012-04-27 Thread Fred Jensen
P3 is in Fixed Mode, that's not the right term but the center frequency 
stays put and I tune across it until I get to the edge and then it 
switches.  I normally have a few fixed frequency spurs, they mainly come 
from the wireless company's RAP at the top of my tower, there are two 
backhauls and one distribution radio.  I don't mind it, I don't 
interfere, and we get free internet.

Lately, sort of after I calibrated my K3 S-meter with my svc mon and set 
the P3, I'm seeing very large spurs I can't tune to ... they move as I 
tune.  I'm pretty sure I don't have the IF mod for the P3.

Anyone know where they're coming from?  When I calibrated the P3 to 
the S-meter, I had to run the setting way down to the -20 range. 
Signals all look good, just these big couple of spurs.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

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[Elecraft] New P3 Software and Firmware

2012-04-27 Thread N5GE
YAHO!

Great job Y'All

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
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Re: [Elecraft] amp

2012-04-27 Thread Scott Manthe
I think that the K3+P3+KPA500= the mythical K4

Elecraft probably wouldn't have invested a bunch of money in building a 
line of gear around the K3 only to introduce something else. But, I 
could be wrong. Having acquired the K Line, I'm not much interested in 
a K4. I'm also not much interested in shoving a stick into anyone's 
eyes because of their choice of gear. The FT-5000 series are great 
radios- they're great performers, look nice and are expensive. I bought 
the K3 because for me, the entire K Line, including a well configured 
used K3, the KPA500 kit and a used P3 only cost about $200 more than a 
base FT-5000. I don't really worry about anything that FT-5000 owners 
might have to say.

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 4/27/12 7:50 PM, Kevin wrote:
 I'd love Elecraft to prove me wrong but think they'd be better served by
 focusing their efforts on the K4. The barbarians are at the gate
 performance wise and I'd really like to shove a stick in some FTDX-5000
 owners eyes.

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Re: [Elecraft] solder iron correct temp in C for K3

2012-04-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I cheat. My Hakko soldering station is calibrated in both C and F

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

Another trick, you can do C-F in your head:

Double the centigrade temperature, subtract 10% from the product, and add 32
to get Fahrenheit.
   10 degrees C =  (2*10-2) + 32 = 50 degrees F

F-C is not so slick, but works:
Subtract 32 from the Fahrenheit temperature, add 11% of the result to itself
and divide by 2
   50 degrees F =((50-32) + 1.98)/2 = 10 degrees C.

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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/27/2012 11:38 AM, Tony Estep wrote:
 There is a lot to be learned from the ups and downs of companies battling
 in niche markets like that for ham radio gear, but Elecraft has dodged the
 bullets and avoided the mis-steps that make a case study compelling.

That's because management (in this case, ownership) actually understands 
the business that they were in, both at the technical and the marketing 
level.  That's contrary to what I hear far too much of in the popular 
press, and I'm told that the business schools even TEACH their students 
that you DON'T need to know anything about what a business does to run it.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction question

2012-04-27 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi Fred,

From where I sit, if the NR display has a little m between NR and F,
those are methods best on voice (F5-1 through F8-4), while without the
little m (F1-1 through F4-4) are methods better with CW.  That is not an
absolute rule of course and many people have preferences which don't abide
by those categories.  People differ wildly on their sound perceptions and
preferences. Some people can't stand a hollow sound, like scraping a
chalkboard with fingernails.  Others need clear highs in speech or they
just cannot understand it.

It is not even a tiny bit surprising you find 1-1 hollow on SSB.  1-1 is
a method designed to dynamically peak up a frequency, DEFINITELY NOT a band
of frequencies like SSB. If you turn on 160m and listen to the static
crashes using 1-1, you can hear the method try to tune in on a center, and
this will move around just depending on the nature of the static crash. If
that hones in on a low frequency on voice, then I LOSE the all important
highs for sibilant sounds, this does not happen on 6-2 which is one of my
favorites.

Personally, I do NOT agree with the Noise Reduction section in the current
K3 manual on page 25, where they only recommend 1-1 through 4-1. There is
not even one NON-mixed setting that I like on SSB.

Nothing wrong, your K3 is not busted, YOU are not busted.  If you like it,
use it, if you don't like it, don't use it. Try them all on for size.

73, Guy.

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:

 I operate mainly CW and while the NB is very effective for me on CW,
 I've never seen much advantage to the NR at narrow CW bandwidths.  I had
 occasion to be on SSB this week attempting to work several SOTA summit
 activations, and tried the NR.  At the wider SSB BW, it made a great
 difference.

 With NR however, even at F1-1 [which I think means least aggressive],
 while the nasty line noise really fell, the SSB signal acquired a
 profound echo which made it very hard to understand.  I'm running FW4.39
 and whatever DSP came with it.  Is this reverberation [it's more like
 that than a distinct echo, like talking through a long pipe] normal?
 The further up the NR scale I went, the more pronounced it got, and
 beyond F1-4, the signal was indecipherable.

 Full Disclosure:  My hearing sucks and has since one night in 1965 on
 the other side of the planet, so me telling you what something sounds
 like can be somewhat of a joke.  I can't use my hearing aids under my
 headphones, so I run the AF gain high [afterburner roar or close], but
 the reverb effect definitely is controlled by the NR.

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
 - www.cqp.org

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[Elecraft] yhoo kx3 site??

2012-04-27 Thread KU7Y
Hi Richard,

Looks like it's down here too.  Most all of today, after about noon local.

OK, back in my hole,

Ron, KU7Y
SOWP 5545M
Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
Brenda, AZ (Winter)
Caldwell, ID (Summer)
k...@qsl.net
http://www.hatpinsandmore.com
KIX3 #0062
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Re: [Elecraft] A Success Story

2012-04-27 Thread N5GE

That's because modern business schools don't teach leadership and as you say
they tell their students they don't have to know the business they are managing.

The students have been taught that businesses are run on charts and graphs, so
they sit on their fannies and make computer charts and graphs instead of walking
out in the shop to get to know the business and the employees.  No wonder China
has all the manufacturing business now.  Industrial engineers have become highly
paid accountants and count beans instead of studying work flow, etc.

That's my opinion, I could be wrong.

Keep up the good work Elecraft.  Treat your employees well and take an interest
in what they are doing (as you are now) and you will have fun and make a lot of
money too.

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:16:18 -0700, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com 
wrote:


That's because management (in this case, ownership) actually understands 
the business that they were in, both at the technical and the marketing 
level.  That's contrary to what I hear far too much of in the popular 
press, and I'm told that the business schools even TEACH their students 
that you DON'T need to know anything about what a business does to run it.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Moderation

2012-04-27 Thread Adrian
How many years do you need to be on the list before posts are not moderated,
or am I on the naughty list?

 

I have posted messages here then have seen several and tens of posts go
through after my post timestamp,

before I finally see mine show up the next day and way out of sequence with
the thread responded too.

 

Adrian . vk4tux

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[Elecraft] amp

2012-04-27 Thread Adrian
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kevin kevin.sto...@mediacombb.net

 There's no good reason for Elecraft to invest the time and money into
 manufacturing a 1-1.5K Watt amp.
 The market is very small and the competition is fierce, not only from
 other SS amp manufacturer's but from those that still sell tube type 
 amps.

 You must remember you are talking about loyal Elecraft fans who will
 sacrifice whatever it takes to keep the K-Line pure.

 You can't compete on price with the likes of an Ameritron, QRO,
 Commander (whenever they decide to resurface) and even Alpha.

 That leaves features and the more features you add, like stupid proofing
 a SS amp, and the inevitable built-in match 1500W to my rain gutters
 tuner, you've lost the price war.

 If you buy an Ameritron AL-1500 with the 8877 Eimac tube, a contest
 proven amp with thousands sold and thousands of hours, you can afford to
 re-tube it twice and still not hit the magic $6K mark.

 Solid state amps have come a long way but they have a real long way to
 go before matching the reliability and price point of a tube amp.

 I'd love Elecraft to prove me wrong but think they'd be better served by
 focusing their efforts on the K4. The barbarians are at the gate
 performance wise and I'd really like to shove a stick in some FTDX-5000
 owners eyes.

 No keep the K3 updated and improved, it is a great alrounder that doesnt
break the back or bank balance.
All K3 owners feel they have the lastest at all times due to Elecrafts
 marvellous hardware and firmware updates available to all.

 If a 6k 1.5kw K1500 is released, there will a cue waiting as per usual with
 Elecraft releases. Present k3 owners, I think would rather see a KPA1500 
for
 their k3, rather than a K4, which will have what else besides size perhaps?
 The K-line is modelled on the size of the K3 so K4 looks very unlikely to
 me.

 Adrian ... vk4tux
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Moderation

2012-04-27 Thread Milt -- N5IA
Adrain,

Don't you understand that it is a LOT farther from VK4 than most other 
places.  Just takes time

:-)  :-)

de Milt, N5IA


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 8:54 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Moderation

How many years do you need to be on the list before posts are not moderated,
or am I on the naughty list?



I have posted messages here then have seen several and tens of posts go
through after my post timestamp,

before I finally see mine show up the next day and way out of sequence with
the thread responded too.



Adrian . vk4tux

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