Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking!
Having ran a couple of true SDR's I decided that I did not like one for a radio that I had to use all the time. They fell short on receivers for one thing and were tied to a computer for another. The computer caused another set of problems itself and the fact no power no radio. The last one I used was SRD-IQ and it was used as a Panadpter for my FTDX-5000MP there again a computer was required. For me a computer is required in the shack, but just not for use as a main radio. JMHO... 73, Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Gregory Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:39 PM To: David Gilbert Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking! Dave, I agree that the K3 is an SDR by definition, one of the many reasons I was an early adoptee. Having said that, is there a front end software package that emulates all of the K3 FW settings, provides a good SDR like screen such as PowerSDR etc, that has been developed for the K3? I know a lot of Flex users will roll their eyes at such a thought but as I have not come across one I was just wondering I prefer the K3 as it is but some may like the Flex way of operating. 73's Gary On 23 December 2012 14:23, David Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote: Please explain why you think the K3 is not a software defined radio. By every definition of SDR that I'm aware of, the K3 most certainly is. Dave AB7E On 12/22/2012 6:08 PM, Bob wrote: Since the K3 is not an SDR (the way of the future) Bob VE3UK www.MagLoop.com __**__**__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecrafthttp://mailman.qth. net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htmhttp://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- *Gary - VK1ZZ Motorhome Portable The Shack* *Elecraft K3 P3 Panadapter KPA500FT KAT500FT** KX3-K * __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking!
Gary, VK1ZZ: Not sure what you mean by front end, but Elecraft chose to design the K3 with the digital signal processor included (embedded) in the radio. They also developed the software which defines operation of the radio (SDR= software defined radio). At the time this was developed SDR's were not very plentiful for the amateur market and the few available most often did not come with software; the buyer had to roll his own (e.g. be a software designer). This held down the appeal of SDR for a good while. The K3 came complete with software and processor included which required no external computer. Elecraft chose to call the software firmware as it was downloaded into non-volatile memory. Thus is was firm until a new version was downloaded. However, Elecraft did not provide external connection to the IQ data stream or baseband so no second-party sw could be used using a computer. That was both good and bad: good such that the radio was stabile since firmware was under Elecraft product reliability control, but bad for use of any other sw programs. In the KX3 they have provided external IQ baseband output so one can try any number of SDR programs with the KX3 (caveat is you may need a bit more understanding of computers to actually get many to work with it). I suspect that there will be many sw gurus that will come forward with versions to work with the KX3. Of course one will need a computer with good soundcard to run them. In time I will probably play with trying other sw with the KX3. JT65 and JT9 probably the first. They will not provide full access to the control panel, though. Maybe PowerSDR can be modified to work with the KX3? Drivers must be developed for each radio that one uses a sw radio program (and that is hard part). 73, Ed - KL7UW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking!
Ed Your right the WSJT modes at QRP power opens up a whole new world to the KX3 and with the new JT9 mode the possibality of QRP DX on 40/80/160m like never before. I've been trying very hard to convince myself of all the reasons that I don't need a KX3, the list grows shorter... 73, Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward R Cole Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 2:25 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking! Gary, VK1ZZ: Not sure what you mean by front end, but Elecraft chose to design the K3 with the digital signal processor included (embedded) in the radio. They also developed the software which defines operation of the radio (SDR= software defined radio). At the time this was developed SDR's were not very plentiful for the amateur market and the few available most often did not come with software; the buyer had to roll his own (e.g. be a software designer). This held down the appeal of SDR for a good while. The K3 came complete with software and processor included which required no external computer. Elecraft chose to call the software firmware as it was downloaded into non-volatile memory. Thus is was firm until a new version was downloaded. However, Elecraft did not provide external connection to the IQ data stream or baseband so no second-party sw could be used using a computer. That was both good and bad: good such that the radio was stabile since firmware was under Elecraft product reliability control, but bad for use of any other sw programs. In the KX3 they have provided external IQ baseband output so one can try any number of SDR programs with the KX3 (caveat is you may need a bit more understanding of computers to actually get many to work with it). I suspect that there will be many sw gurus that will come forward with versions to work with the KX3. Of course one will need a computer with good soundcard to run them. In time I will probably play with trying other sw with the KX3. JT65 and JT9 probably the first. They will not provide full access to the control panel, though. Maybe PowerSDR can be modified to work with the KX3? Drivers must be developed for each radio that one uses a sw radio program (and that is hard part). 73, Ed - KL7UW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 help
Gentleman, is there any easy practical way to improve the isolation between the main antenna input and the RX input of the KXV3 module installed. I use my K3 mainly working very weak signals on 160 meters and the noise floor using the RX input I feel should be better. Thanks, gary, kd9sv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking!
WHOOA! At the time this was developed SDR's were not very plentiful for the amateur market and the few available most often did not come with software; the buyer had to roll his own (e.g. be a software designer). The Koolaid drinking is becoming Intoxicating around here! I got me a couple of questions 1) Anyone remembers the Kenwood TS- B2000? - The very first so call KNOBLESS RADIO 2) Anyone remembers what the Acronym DSP stand for? 3) Anyone remembers the Kenwood -TS 850S with the DSP-100 (((73))) Milverton. From: Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking! Gary, VK1ZZ: Not sure what you mean by front end, but Elecraft chose to design the K3 with the digital signal processor included (embedded) in the radio. They also developed the software which defines operation of the radio (SDR= software defined radio). At the time this was developed SDR's were not very plentiful for the amateur market and the few available most often did not come with software; the buyer had to roll his own (e.g. be a software designer). This held down the appeal of SDR for a good while. The K3 came complete with software and processor included which required no external computer. Elecraft chose to call the software firmware as it was downloaded into non-volatile memory. Thus is was firm until a new version was downloaded. However, Elecraft did not provide external connection to the IQ data stream or baseband so no second-party sw could be used using a computer. That was both good and bad: good such that the radio was stabile since firmware was under Elecraft product reliability control, but bad for use of any other sw programs. In the KX3 they have provided external IQ baseband output so one can try any number of SDR programs with the KX3 (caveat is you may need a bit more understanding of computers to actually get many to work with it). I suspect that there will be many sw gurus that will come forward with versions to work with the KX3. Of course one will need a computer with good soundcard to run them. In time I will probably play with trying other sw with the KX3. JT65 and JT9 probably the first. They will not provide full access to the control panel, though. Maybe PowerSDR can be modified to work with the KX3? Drivers must be developed for each radio that one uses a sw radio program (and that is hard part). 73, Ed - KL7UW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking!
I wonder if in the amateur radio world 'SDR' is now synonymous with a point and click interface much the same was as 'CW' is now synonymous with Morse Code? Would be a pity if we allow another term to be so limited. Merry Christmas! 73, de Nate, N0NB -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking!
No it's just a Software Defined Radio one that can be upgraded with a firmware download. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nate Bargmann Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:27 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking! I wonder if in the amateur radio world 'SDR' is now synonymous with a point and click interface much the same was as 'CW' is now synonymous with Morse Code? Would be a pity if we allow another term to be so limited. Merry Christmas! 73, de Nate, N0NB -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking!
Guys, Try for what appears to be a good definition: http://www.wirelessinnovation.org/assets/documents/SoftwareDefinedRadio.pdf 73 - Merry Christmas George AI4VZ -Original Message- From: Fred Smith Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 7:40 AM To: 'Nate Bargmann' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking! No it's just a Software Defined Radio one that can be upgraded with a firmware download. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nate Bargmann Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 6:27 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking! I wonder if in the amateur radio world 'SDR' is now synonymous with a point and click interface much the same was as 'CW' is now synonymous with Morse Code? Would be a pity if we allow another term to be so limited. Merry Christmas! 73, de Nate, N0NB -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Freezes turned on with no pwr to XVnnn
Howdy K3' people: My XV432 and XV50 get power from their own Astron P/S. When I turn on the P/S for the K3 and KAT500, the KAT LEDs light up. Then I press the K3 'Power' button. The K3 face is frozen and the 'Power' button on the K3 is non-functional. To turn off the K3 one needs to turn off its P/S. If, on the other hand, the P/S for the transverters is turned on and then the P/S for the K3 and KAT500, then all is well. This is repeatable. -- 73 KD7YZ Bob __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] directions
Thanks to all for the response(s) to my earlier post, regarding posting directions. I'd intended that message only for the Mailman himself, and not to have it posted. Having seen your ideas, I agree that posting, (like everything else, once you know how) is easily possible, but it's not obvious! For example, I don't recall any time that I've read these posts, then scrolled down to the very bottom of the message ... that's generally where I would expect to see advertising. I'm only advocating the idea of making it obvious. Obvious would be a large red notice, on the main reflector page, that says, To post a message, click here. Non of these other methods are at all obvious (and sure eluded me this time, after four years of looking at this reflector). Everything should be tested on your grandmother. If Grandma can't figure it out, head back to the drawing board. 73 all, and enjoy the holidays. Mike VE3GFN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] Subreceiver question - new small beverage antenna
I just put up a small 250' beverage antenna in the backyard / canyon and have been using my subreceiver and I have a couple questions about some intermittent receive performance either coming from the antenna or the sub receiver. I noticed that every once in awhile the sub receiver signal drops significantly and if I tune a couple KHz it pops up again. I can also get it to gain sensitivity sometimes it I cycle the sub receiver switch on or off. I am wondering if this has something to do with my antenna since I have switched it between ANT 1 and the subreceiver and sensitivity varies. It maybe the coax so I will switch that out today. Just wanted to see if anyone has had some issues like this before. Thanks, Keith AK6ZZ Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] I/Q Software
I have the KX3 and wondering which is the best software for I/Q operation. Any setup instructions? Nels W0TUP North Dakota __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking!
I am one of those hams that is always changing my shack equipment. I feel a little embarrassed if I use the same radio setup two days in a row. (But not so embarrassed that I don't do it quite frequently.) Edward has the germ of an interesting product idea that might appeal to hams like me: A computer package that makes building a SDR as easy as an Arduino makes building a digital controller. This package could come with building blocks such as software mixers, software filters, and software coders/decoders which can be connected to each other and to user interface elements to build a radio. Obviously it should be straight forward to define and add your own elements. This package would make it easy to experiment with new modulation schemes and many other aspects of radio design. The KX3 with its I/Q interface would be a useful analog platform for this software. Another idea that might have broad appeal to Elecraft users is pure software control package for the K3/KX3 which would allow travelers to operate their home radios from anywhere with an internet connection using a laptop or even a pad. A K3/0 is a really big box to take on a business trip or vacation, but many people are already taking a laptop or a pad along. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV/1 On 12/22/12 at 12:24 AM, kl...@acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) wrote: In the KX3 they have provided external IQ baseband output so one can try any number of SDR programs with the KX3 (caveat is you may need a bit more understanding of computers to actually get many to work with it). I suspect that there will be many sw gurus that will come forward with versions to work with the KX3. Of course one will need a computer with good soundcard to run them. In time I will probably play with trying other sw with the KX3. JT65 and JT9 probably the first. They will not provide full access to the control panel, though. Maybe PowerSDR can be modified to work with the KX3? Drivers must be developed for each radio that one uses a sw radio program (and that is hard part). --- Bill Frantz|We used to quip that password is the most common 408-356-8506 | password. Now it's 'password1.' Who said users haven't www.pwpconsult.com | learned anything about security? -- Bruce Schneier __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I/Q Software
You might give NaP3 a try. Dick - KA5KKT I have the KX3 and wondering which is the best software for I/Q operation. Any setup instructions? Nels W0TUP North Dakota __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking!
You may want to check out GnuRadio at: http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki It looks very much like what you wished for :-) Regards, rayW0PFO -- On 12/23/2012 10:02 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: Edward has the germ of an interesting product idea that might appeal to hams like me: A computer package that makes building a SDR as easy as an Arduino makes building a digital controller. This package could come with building blocks such as software mixers, software filters, and software coders/decoders which can be connected to each other and to user interface elements to build a radio. Obviously it should be straight forward to define and add your own elements. This package would make it easy to experiment with new modulation schemes and many other aspects of radio design. The KX3 with its I/Q interface would be a useful analog platform for this software. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I've been thinking!
Bill, There is already a solution available for accessing for K3 remotely without the K3/0. If you have your home K3 already setup with the RemoteRig RRC, then all you need to access on the road is the dongle from RemoteRig called the RRC Micro PC Client. See http://www.remoterig.com/wp/?page_id=28 for details. Of course, this requires a software rig interface (HRD or any other control software) and has no interface for a paddle, but otherwise offers you full access while on the road. The K3/0 offers you the real experience as if you are sitting in front of your K3, plus has paddle support. As you say, it is not always possible to carry that with you. 73, Mitch DJ0QN On 23.12.2012 17:02, Bill Frantz wrote: I am one of those hams that is always changing my shack equipment. I feel a little embarrassed if I use the same radio setup two days in a row. (But not so embarrassed that I don't do it quite frequently.) Edward has the germ of an interesting product idea that might appeal to hams like me: A computer package that makes building a SDR as easy as an Arduino makes building a digital controller. This package could come with building blocks such as software mixers, software filters, and software coders/decoders which can be connected to each other and to user interface elements to build a radio. Obviously it should be straight forward to define and add your own elements. This package would make it easy to experiment with new modulation schemes and many other aspects of radio design. The KX3 with its I/Q interface would be a useful analog platform for this software. Another idea that might have broad appeal to Elecraft users is pure software control package for the K3/KX3 which would allow travelers to operate their home radios from anywhere with an internet connection using a laptop or even a pad. A K3/0 is a really big box to take on a business trip or vacation, but many people are already taking a laptop or a pad along. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV/1 On 12/22/12 at 12:24 AM, kl...@acsalaska.net (Edward R Cole) wrote: In the KX3 they have provided external IQ baseband output so one can try any number of SDR programs with the KX3 (caveat is you may need a bit more understanding of computers to actually get many to work with it). I suspect that there will be many sw gurus that will come forward with versions to work with the KX3. Of course one will need a computer with good soundcard to run them. In time I will probably play with trying other sw with the KX3. JT65 and JT9 probably the first. They will not provide full access to the control panel, though. Maybe PowerSDR can be modified to work with the KX3? Drivers must be developed for each radio that one uses a sw radio program (and that is hard part). --- Bill Frantz|We used to quip that password is the most common 408-356-8506 | password. Now it's 'password1.' Who said users haven't www.pwpconsult.com | learned anything about security? -- Bruce Schneier __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Mitch Wolfson DJØQN / K7DX Neubiberger Str. 21, 85640 Putzbrunn Skype: mitchwo - Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436 Echolink: 3001 - IRLP: 5378 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Seeking K3 with tuner to purchase
Good morning, I am looking for a K3 with tuner to purchase. Not the Aston Martin version, perhaps the Nissan 370Z version. Please contact me if you have one available. Would like to purchase before tax season (whatever that is this year) begins. Tom Branton tombranton...@gmail.commailto:tombranton...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue
Ian, Does the rig voltage sage when transmitting? 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ian Kahn - Ham Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:51 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue Ron, With all due respect, this 40-watt power loss is noted in a watt meter connected directly to the ANT1 output on my K3, and then directly to a 300-watt dummy load. There is nothing else in between to cause a power drop. Where else would you recommend I look for the source of my problem, if not in the transceiver itself? 40 watts may only be about 1/3 of an S-unit, but that isn't the point. The point is that my rig is not performing as it should. I would like to fix the issue, in the most cost- and time-effective manner possible. If there are tests I can run to help isolate the problem, I'm open to suggestions. Thank you. --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team On 12/22/2012 6:13 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: And you'll likely find the cause of your low signal strength is somewhere else, since 60 watts is only 2 dB - about 1/3 of an S-unit - below 100 watts. That difference is not usually detectable on HF given normal variations in propagation that go on constantly. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Have you run Calibrate Transmitter Gain using the K3 Utility from Elecraft? Just follow the instructions carefully and it's very simple and fast. There are two levels to run, 5 and 50 watts if I remember correctly. You will get a report at the end and can watch the progress on you K3 display. God Bless 73! Jack - WE5ST From: Ian Kahn km4ik@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:25 PM Subject: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue All, Lately I've been receiving sporadic reports of low signal strength on my K3, s/n 288. So, today I put a meter on it and ran an FSK signal at 100 watts into a dummy load. To my amazing surprise, the meter only read about 60 watts out. I just upgraded last night to the latest firmware version (MCU 4.60, FPF 1.15, DSP 2.80), What should I begin looking at or adjusting to find the source of this issue? Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks, 73, and Merry Christmas. -- Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I/Q Software
I agree with Dick. I've been using it almost as long as I've had my KX3, since June. It probably has the most features with the least grief of those I've tried. And, I keep trying new ones as fast as I can find them. The really important issue is that you use a pretty good sound card. If you do that, your KX3 becomes a really GW, gee whiz, radio. Best of luck. 73, Barry K3NDM On 12/23/2012 11:14 AM, Edward Dickinson III wrote: You might give NaP3 a try. Dick - KA5KKT I have the KX3 and wondering which is the best software for I/Q operation. Any setup instructions? Nels W0TUP North Dakota __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue
That should be sag . 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill K9YEQ Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:32 AM To: 'Ian Kahn - Ham'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue Ian, Does the rig voltage sage when transmitting? 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ian Kahn - Ham Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:51 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue Ron, With all due respect, this 40-watt power loss is noted in a watt meter connected directly to the ANT1 output on my K3, and then directly to a 300-watt dummy load. There is nothing else in between to cause a power drop. Where else would you recommend I look for the source of my problem, if not in the transceiver itself? 40 watts may only be about 1/3 of an S-unit, but that isn't the point. The point is that my rig is not performing as it should. I would like to fix the issue, in the most cost- and time-effective manner possible. If there are tests I can run to help isolate the problem, I'm open to suggestions. Thank you. --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team On 12/22/2012 6:13 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: And you'll likely find the cause of your low signal strength is somewhere else, since 60 watts is only 2 dB - about 1/3 of an S-unit - below 100 watts. That difference is not usually detectable on HF given normal variations in propagation that go on constantly. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Have you run Calibrate Transmitter Gain using the K3 Utility from Elecraft? Just follow the instructions carefully and it's very simple and fast. There are two levels to run, 5 and 50 watts if I remember correctly. You will get a report at the end and can watch the progress on you K3 display. God Bless 73! Jack - WE5ST From: Ian Kahn km4ik@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:25 PM Subject: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue All, Lately I've been receiving sporadic reports of low signal strength on my K3, s/n 288. So, today I put a meter on it and ran an FSK signal at 100 watts into a dummy load. To my amazing surprise, the meter only read about 60 watts out. I just upgraded last night to the latest firmware version (MCU 4.60, FPF 1.15, DSP 2.80), What should I begin looking at or adjusting to find the source of this issue? Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks, 73, and Merry Christmas. -- Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 104, Issue 30
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:06:17 -0500 From: Joe K2UF j...@k2uf.com I used my K3 at 1 watt this past spring and summer to work QRP DXCC. Also worked a couple of European stations at .1 watt. Got a QRPp certificate for that. Lots of fun but somewhat challenging. 73 Joe K2UF With enough THRUST, pig fly just fine. (as any RF-4C driver can tell you.HI!) 72, Tim K3HX Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/50d743119e0ab43115b51st01duc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [KAT500 and OT] Is a tuner using VNA feasible ?
This may be off-topic or it may be a derivative KAT500 question about design. And, I admit to not knowing that much about VNA (Vector Network Analyzer) devices. But, the KAT500 discovers an L C match by a search process, I think it is measuring reflected voltage but not quite sure about that. Can a vector network analyzer type circuit be used in a tuner to actually measure the complex impedance R + jX values and then use that to compute the required L C values of the matching circuits (L-network ?). Thus, given an input frequency would it not be possible to instantaneously (almost) determine the match? 73, phil, K7PEH P.S. Or, am I completely off my rocker. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 is an SDR?
Don As I'd expect, you did a beautiful job summarizing the difference between the K3 and KX3 design architecture. I'd call the K3 a hybrid SDR and the KX3 a true SDR? What's interesting to me comes from looking at the leap forward in component technology to make direct SDR from RF possible. This is the evolution in the chip level devices it takes to gain this single step conversion to baseband. Faster and more agile DSP, A/D and D/A etc ICs are at the heart of the step forward between the K3 and KX3. The companies producing these chips were at my fingertips back in the days 10 to 20 years ago. Then they were only able to make it to lower frequency IF stages with costly designs only found in the top high tech applications such as those found in government surveillance. Back then Burr Brown, Analog Devices, Texas Instruments, Motorola, Lucent/Bell Labs were working hard with competitive designs. Semiconductor foundry geometries were heading for half micron on 4 or 6 silicon back then. The software development tools allowing greater coding efficiencies is another area that has played a major roll to bring us to this point. And, his was all done within our free enterprise environment by private/public capitalized US businesses. Happy Holidays John, W1QS Waldoboro, Maine __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500 and OT] Is a tuner using VNA feasible ?
On 12/23/2012 9:56 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: But, the KAT500 discovers an L C match by a search process, I think it is measuring reflected voltage but not quite sure about that. I believe you're likely correct. That's how the KXAT1 operates. My KXAT1 tunes a lot faster than the KAT500 but then, it only has 3 L's and 3 C's plus choosing one of two configurations. The KAT500 has a lot more. Can a vector network analyzer type circuit be used in a tuner to actually measure the complex impedance R + jX values and then use that to compute the required L C values of the matching circuits (L-network ?). Thus, given an input frequency would it not be possible to instantaneously (almost) determine the match? I would think that, knowing the complex impedance presented to the output port of the tuner, one could compute the values of L and C and the L-net configuration and just go there. I can do it on my HP48GX calculator. Measuring the actual complex impedance does not take a full VNA either. In years past ... that would be *many* years ... I and others experimented with what I'll call analog autotuners for lack of a real name. Mine was in the trunk of Dad's car along with the 75m radio. The matching network was an L-net. I used a stepper switch to manually select taps on the inductor controlled from the front seat, and an RF bridge produced a DC voltage proportional to the phase difference between the voltage and current in the short line to the antenna. This voltage drove a DC motor on the capacitor shaft which drove the cap to zero the phase angle. It worked, with some wrinkles ... it wasn't real reliable due mainly to my construction skills, and I had to detune the antenna far enough so that the polarity of the DC voltage remained the same over the range of frequencies I wanted to tune, or it got lost. I know of at least one ham who tried to make it work with motors on both the L and C. I don't recall ever seeing that one actually work. P.S. Or, am I completely off my rocker. I think that you and your rocker are still firmly intact. :-)) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 assembly questiion
Hi all Am hoping someone can answer this one quickly. I am building my K3 at the moment and am on page 32 of the manual just putting in VFO B and I don't understand the instructions. It says 'Cut only the five pins shown close to the back of the pc board so they do not extend above the solder points' Up until now everything has been easy to do but this has stumped me, can someone explain what this means please? Thanks Richard, M5RIC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 assembly questiion
Hi Rich: If you look at Figure 43, part 2, on that page you'll see both a before and after photo with an oval around the pins in question. Trim the pins on the back side of the board to look like the after. The issue is that if the pins stick out too far above the solder pads, they will short against the adjacent board when the front panel is assembled. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:08 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 assembly questiion Hi all Am hoping someone can answer this one quickly. I am building my K3 at the moment and am on page 32 of the manual just putting in VFO B and I don't understand the instructions. It says 'Cut only the five pins shown close to the back of the pc board so they do not extend above the solder points' Up until now everything has been easy to do but this has stumped me, can someone explain what this means please? Thanks Richard, M5RIC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner
Having a KPA500 and been a potential customer for the KAT500 I have been watching reports about the KAT500 operation, unless I misunderstand it seems the KAT500 only has band information available to it so it needs a sniff of RF to make band segment adjustments. I think it can already store settings for band segments from previous training but without the frequency information prior to been sent RF it is unable to make the most efficient use of it. I'm no EE so I do not know what it would take to implement this, how much in extra hardware and software design but in my opinion if the KAT500 was passed the operating frequency information from the transceiver instead of just band information that would elevate it from a good tuner to a great tuner. 73 John ZL1BYZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 is an SDR?
I'd call the K3 a hybrid SDR and the KX3 a true SDR? No - both are hybrid SDRs if that's the term you want to apply. The K3 is a traditional IF based superhetrodyne/SDR where the KX3 is a zero IF or direct conversion SDR. The K3 uses two stages of IF - 8.125 MHz and 15 KHz - with SDR modulation and demodulation at 15 KHz. The KX3 is a direct conversion (RF to DC) front end with SDR based I/Q modulation and demodulation. Neither is a pure SDR if your definition of a true SDR is on frequency analog to digital and digital to analog conversion. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/23/2012 1:34 PM, John Lawrence wrote: Don As I'd expect, you did a beautiful job summarizing the difference between the K3 and KX3 design architecture. I'd call the K3 a hybrid SDR and the KX3 a true SDR? What's interesting to me comes from looking at the leap forward in component technology to make direct SDR from RF possible. This is the evolution in the chip level devices it takes to gain this single step conversion to baseband. Faster and more agile DSP, A/D and D/A etc ICs are at the heart of the step forward between the K3 and KX3. The companies producing these chips were at my fingertips back in the days 10 to 20 years ago. Then they were only able to make it to lower frequency IF stages with costly designs only found in the top high tech applications such as those found in government surveillance. Back then Burr Brown, Analog Devices, Texas Instruments, Motorola, Lucent/Bell Labs were working hard with competitive designs. Semiconductor foundry geometries were heading for half micron on 4 or 6 silicon back then. The software development tools allowing greater coding efficiencies is another area that has played a major roll to bring us to this point. And, his was all done within our free enterprise environment by private/public capitalized US businesses. Happy Holidays John, W1QS Waldoboro, Maine __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner
I have asked the same question about the KAT500 following the K3 as tuned to be ready for any keying of the K3. I was told the relays in the KAT500 would click as I was tuning. SO? As an option I think that would be fine to know the KAT500 was tuned at all time. Keith, XE1/K5ENS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-and-OT-Is-a-tuner-using-VNA-feasible-tp7567559p7567565.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 assembly questiion
Rich, Does the illustration following that text help at all? They are the short ends of the 5 pin connector. 73, Don W3FPR On 12/23/2012 2:07 PM, Rich wrote: Hi all Am hoping someone can answer this one quickly. I am building my K3 at the moment and am on page 32 of the manual just putting in VFO B and I don't understand the instructions. It says 'Cut only the five pins shown close to the back of the pc board so they do not extend above the solder points' Up until now everything has been easy to do but this has stumped me, can someone explain what this means please? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner
Very good thought, yes that would happen. A compromise could be some sort of matrix with this mode of operation where you train the tuner at set intervals and the tuner only re tunes when they are passed. This would reduce the chatter and of course the tuner would already be trained so the clicking would be minimal. I could live with that, better than all this hot switching, KPA500 errors and all the on the band QRM that this extra tuning while sending RF. Just a dream maybe but I know Elecraft is a progressive company always looking for ways to improve their product so thought I would pipe up. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Keith-K5ENS Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:00 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner I have asked the same question about the KAT500 following the K3 as tuned to be ready for any keying of the K3. I was told the relays in the KAT500 would click as I was tuning. SO? As an option I think that would be fine to know the KAT500 was tuned at all time. Keith, XE1/K5ENS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-and-OT-Is-a-tuner-using-VNA-feas ible-tp7567559p7567565.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner
My poor choice of words with intervals. I meant frequency intervals not time, that would be dumb. These could be further apart if you antenna is more broad banded as tuner settings would only need to change when SWR became unacceptable. This would mean with some antenna's and on higher bands probably no chatter at all. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Shaw Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:46 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner Very good thought, yes that would happen. A compromise could be some sort of matrix with this mode of operation where you train the tuner at set intervals and the tuner only re tunes when they are passed. This would reduce the chatter and of course the tuner would already be trained so the clicking would be minimal. I could live with that, better than all this hot switching, KPA500 errors and all the on the band QRM that this extra tuning while sending RF. Just a dream maybe but I know Elecraft is a progressive company always looking for ways to improve their product so thought I would pipe up. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Keith-K5ENS Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:00 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner I have asked the same question about the KAT500 following the K3 as tuned to be ready for any keying of the K3. I was told the relays in the KAT500 would click as I was tuning. SO? As an option I think that would be fine to know the KAT500 was tuned at all time. Keith, XE1/K5ENS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-and-OT-Is-a-tuner-using-VNA-feas ible-tp7567559p7567565.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue
Several people suggested I run the Calibrate transmitter gain on my rig, which I'll do. But I have one question about the calibration that hopefully someone here can answer - does it matter what frquency/portion of the band I'm in on each band when I run the calibration test? Or do I just need to be somewhere in-band on each band? Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and assistance. If my rig passes this calibration test, there are a few other things that have been suggested which I'll check. 73 and Merry Christmas to all! --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team On 12/22/2012 6:13 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: And you'll likely find the cause of your low signal strength is somewhere else, since 60 watts is only 2 dB - about 1/3 of an S-unit - below 100 watts. That difference is not usually detectable on HF given normal variations in propagation that go on constantly. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Have you run Calibrate Transmitter Gain using the K3 Utility from Elecraft? Just follow the instructions carefully and it's very simple and fast. There are two levels to run, 5 and 50 watts if I remember correctly. You will get a report at the end and can watch the progress on you K3 display. God Bless 73! Jack - WE5ST From: Ian Kahn km4ik@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:25 PM Subject: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue All, Lately I've been receiving sporadic reports of low signal strength on my K3, s/n 288. So, today I put a meter on it and ran an FSK signal at 100 watts into a dummy load. To my amazing surprise, the meter only read about 60 watts out. I just upgraded last night to the latest firmware version (MCU 4.60, FPF 1.15, DSP 2.80), What should I begin looking at or adjusting to find the source of this issue? Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks, 73, and Merry Christmas. -- Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue
The utility takes care of all that for you. Just click watch. God Bless 73! Jack - WE5ST From: Ian Kahn - Ham km4ik@gmail.com To: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz Cc: 'Jack Berry' we...@yahoo.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue Several people suggested I run the Calibrate transmitter gain on my rig, which I'll do. But I have one question about the calibration that hopefully someone here can answer - does it matter what frquency/portion of the band I'm in on each band when I run the calibration test? Or do I just need to be somewhere in-band on each band? Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and assistance. If my rig passes this calibration test, there are a few other things that have been suggested which I'll check. 73 and Merry Christmas to all! --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team On 12/22/2012 6:13 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: And you'll likely find the cause of your low signal strength is somewhere else, since 60 watts is only 2 dB - about 1/3 of an S-unit - below 100 watts. That difference is not usually detectable on HF given normal variations in propagation that go on constantly. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Have you run Calibrate Transmitter Gain using the K3 Utility from Elecraft? Just follow the instructions carefully and it's very simple and fast. There are two levels to run, 5 and 50 watts if I remember correctly. You will get a report at the end and can watch the progress on you K3 display. God Bless 73! Jack - WE5ST From: Ian Kahn km4ik@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 3:25 PM Subject: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue All, Lately I've been receiving sporadic reports of low signal strength on my K3, s/n 288. So, today I put a meter on it and ran an FSK signal at 100 watts into a dummy load. To my amazing surprise, the meter only read about 60 watts out. I just upgraded last night to the latest firmware version (MCU 4.60, FPF 1.15, DSP 2.80), What should I begin looking at or adjusting to find the source of this issue? Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated. Thanks, 73, and Merry Christmas. -- Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue
Ian, If you use K3 Utility to do that calibration, if there is a need to set a specific frequency, I am certain the Utility does it for you. 73 Happy Holidays to all (Merry Christmas for those of us who celebrate it), Don W3FPR On 12/23/2012 4:28 PM, Ian Kahn - Ham wrote: Several people suggested I run the Calibrate transmitter gain on my rig, which I'll do. But I have one question about the calibration that hopefully someone here can answer - does it matter what frquency/portion of the band I'm in on each band when I run the calibration test? Or do I just need to be somewhere in-band on each band? Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and assistance. If my rig passes this calibration test, there are a few other things that have been suggested which I'll check. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue
Could it be/affect a 40% difference? Chuck, KE9UW Lionel Trains, TCA, LCCA, LRRC aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Don Wilhelm [w3...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 3:51 PM To: Ian Kahn - Ham Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue Ian, If you use K3 Utility to do that calibration, if there is a need to set a specific frequency, I am certain the Utility does it for you. 73 Happy Holidays to all (Merry Christmas for those of us who celebrate it), Don W3FPR On 12/23/2012 4:28 PM, Ian Kahn - Ham wrote: Several people suggested I run the Calibrate transmitter gain on my rig, which I'll do. But I have one question about the calibration that hopefully someone here can answer - does it matter what frquency/portion of the band I'm in on each band when I run the calibration test? Or do I just need to be somewhere in-band on each band? Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and assistance. If my rig passes this calibration test, there are a few other things that have been suggested which I'll check. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue
Chuck, It could - defer decisions on that until after doing the TX Gain Calibration. 73, Don W3FPR On 12/23/2012 5:01 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: Could it be/affect a 40% difference? Chuck, KE9UW Lionel Trains, TCA, LCCA, LRRC aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner
Something not unlike K3_EZ's SWR band scan comes to mind for a tool to preset. Dick - KA5KKT My poor choice of words with intervals. I meant frequency intervals not time, that would be dumb. These could be further apart if you antenna is more broad banded as tuner settings would only need to change when SWR became unacceptable. This would mean with some antenna's and on higher bands probably no chatter at all. 73 John ZL1BYZ. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner
The kat500 stores information in what are termed 'Bins' and communication of data via Auxbus recalls memories from these 'Bin' locations and hot switching does not occur. I can QSY, with the kpa500 in OPER and 'IF' the kat500 needs to tune it interrupts the amplifier key line and either selects from memory or does a tune if in auto etc. I rarely see a need for a retune once I have set up. I do this regularly as I am on the move touring and so I change antennas to suit where I am setting up. Wish VK had taller trees in more locations..;-) I have no issues here that need addressing with regards to operation, QSY or band changes/hopping etc KAT400 #007 might be licenced to kill but evrything has survived my addled brain and too fast/fat fingers...:-) 73's and Happy Holidays to all. Gary On 24 December 2012 08:24, John Shaw zl1...@nzart.org.nz wrote: My poor choice of words with intervals. I meant frequency intervals not time, that would be dumb. These could be further apart if you antenna is more broad banded as tuner settings would only need to change when SWR became unacceptable. This would mean with some antenna's and on higher bands probably no chatter at all. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Shaw Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:46 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner Very good thought, yes that would happen. A compromise could be some sort of matrix with this mode of operation where you train the tuner at set intervals and the tuner only re tunes when they are passed. This would reduce the chatter and of course the tuner would already be trained so the clicking would be minimal. I could live with that, better than all this hot switching, KPA500 errors and all the on the band QRM that this extra tuning while sending RF. Just a dream maybe but I know Elecraft is a progressive company always looking for ways to improve their product so thought I would pipe up. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Keith-K5ENS Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:00 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner I have asked the same question about the KAT500 following the K3 as tuned to be ready for any keying of the K3. I was told the relays in the KAT500 would click as I was tuning. SO? As an option I think that would be fine to know the KAT500 was tuned at all time. Keith, XE1/K5ENS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-and-OT-Is-a-tuner-using-VNA-feas ible-tp7567559p7567565.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- *Gary - VK1ZZ Motorhome Portable The Shack* *Elecraft K3 P3 Panadapter KPA500FT KAT500FT** KX3-K * __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner
The Utility is useful for setting up in band memories as well as multiband antennas etc. gary On 24 December 2012 09:42, Gary Gregory vk1zzg...@gmail.com wrote: The kat500 stores information in what are termed 'Bins' and communication of data via Auxbus recalls memories from these 'Bin' locations and hot switching does not occur. I can QSY, with the kpa500 in OPER and 'IF' the kat500 needs to tune it interrupts the amplifier key line and either selects from memory or does a tune if in auto etc. I rarely see a need for a retune once I have set up. I do this regularly as I am on the move touring and so I change antennas to suit where I am setting up. Wish VK had taller trees in more locations..;-) I have no issues here that need addressing with regards to operation, QSY or band changes/hopping etc KAT400 #007 might be licenced to kill but evrything has survived my addled brain and too fast/fat fingers...:-) 73's and Happy Holidays to all. Gary On 24 December 2012 08:24, John Shaw zl1...@nzart.org.nz wrote: My poor choice of words with intervals. I meant frequency intervals not time, that would be dumb. These could be further apart if you antenna is more broad banded as tuner settings would only need to change when SWR became unacceptable. This would mean with some antenna's and on higher bands probably no chatter at all. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Shaw Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:46 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner Very good thought, yes that would happen. A compromise could be some sort of matrix with this mode of operation where you train the tuner at set intervals and the tuner only re tunes when they are passed. This would reduce the chatter and of course the tuner would already be trained so the clicking would be minimal. I could live with that, better than all this hot switching, KPA500 errors and all the on the band QRM that this extra tuning while sending RF. Just a dream maybe but I know Elecraft is a progressive company always looking for ways to improve their product so thought I would pipe up. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Keith-K5ENS Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:00 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner I have asked the same question about the KAT500 following the K3 as tuned to be ready for any keying of the K3. I was told the relays in the KAT500 would click as I was tuning. SO? As an option I think that would be fine to know the KAT500 was tuned at all time. Keith, XE1/K5ENS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-and-OT-Is-a-tuner-using-VNA-feas ible-tp7567559p7567565.htmlhttp://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-and-OT-Is-a-tuner-using-VNA-feasible-tp7567559p7567565.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- *Gary - VK1ZZ Motorhome Portable The Shack* *Elecraft K3 P3 Panadapter KPA500FT KAT500FT** KX3-K * -- *Gary - VK1ZZ Motorhome Portable The Shack* *Elecraft K3 P3 Panadapter KPA500FT KAT500FT** KX3-K * __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 is an SDR?
I dunno, folks, we may be gilding lilies trying to define SDR. If software handles modulation and demodulation, that's SDR to me. The K3 and KX3 both fit fine. /Rick On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 10:34 AM, John Lawrence j123...@aol.com wrote: Don As I'd expect, you did a beautiful job summarizing the difference between the K3 and KX3 design architecture. I'd call the K3 a hybrid SDR and the KX3 a true SDR? What's interesting to me comes from looking at the leap forward in component technology to make direct SDR from RF possible. This is the evolution in the chip level devices it takes to gain this single step conversion to baseband. Faster and more agile DSP, A/D and D/A etc ICs are at the heart of the step forward between the K3 and KX3. The companies producing these chips were at my fingertips back in the days 10 to 20 years ago. Then they were only able to make it to lower frequency IF stages with costly designs only found in the top high tech applications such as those found in government surveillance. Back then Burr Brown, Analog Devices, Texas Instruments, Motorola, Lucent/Bell Labs were working hard with competitive designs. Semiconductor foundry geometries were heading for half micron on 4 or 6 silicon back then. The software development tools allowing greater coding efficiencies is another area that has played a major roll to bring us to this point. And, his was all done within our free enterprise environment by private/public capitalized US businesses. Happy Holidays John, W1QS Waldoboro, Maine __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Rick Tavan N6XI Truckee, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner
Not everyone has the KPA500. Keith +The kat500 stores information in what are termed 'Bins' and communication of data via Auxbus recalls memories from these 'Bin' locations and hot switching does not occur. +I can QSY, with the kpa500 in OPER and 'IF' the kat500 needs to tune it interrupts the amplifier key line and either selects from memory or does a tune if in auto etc. I rarely see a need for a retune once I have set up. I do this regularly as I am on the move touring and so I change antennas to suit where I am setting up. Wish VK had taller trees in more locations..;-) -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-and-OT-Is-a-tuner-using-VNA-feasible-tp7567559p7567578.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] k3 and HRD
I have a really odd bug going on and I don't know if it is the K3 or Ham Radio Deluxe. Whenever I click on a spot, everything works fine except when it happens to be any frequency in the 30s - that is 3.530 to 3.539, 3.630 to 3.639, etc. Anyone know if that's an issue in the K3 or in HRD? I suspect it is in HRD. Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Disregard my last posting. I forgot to explain what is happening. Here is what my message should have said: I have a really odd bug going on and I don't know if it is the K3 or Ham Radio Deluxe. Whenever I click on a spot, everything works fine except when it happens to be any frequency in the 30s - that is 3.530 to 3.539, 7.030 to 7.039, etc. Any other frequency in the CW band shows up on the K3 and the mode is correctly changed to CW, except in the 30s, where it always shifts to SSB, even though it is in the CW band. Anyone know if that's an issue in the K3 or in HRD? I suspect it is in HRD. Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner
Keith, The kpa500 is NOT required to make the kat500 work as described. In the manual, and the utility describes operation of the kat500 in both auto and manual modes and 'teaching' the kat500 can be done with the utility. Any brand amplifier will only need the Key Line routed from the transceiver to the kat500 THEN to the amp. The kat500 will open the key line PTT relay preventing a hot switching situation. regards Gary On 24 December 2012 10:00, Keith-K5ENS ke...@nelasat.com wrote: Not everyone has the KPA500. Keith +The kat500 stores information in what are termed 'Bins' and communication of data via Auxbus recalls memories from these 'Bin' locations and hot switching does not occur. +I can QSY, with the kpa500 in OPER and 'IF' the kat500 needs to tune it interrupts the amplifier key line and either selects from memory or does a tune if in auto etc. I rarely see a need for a retune once I have set up. I do this regularly as I am on the move touring and so I change antennas to suit where I am setting up. Wish VK had taller trees in more locations..;-) -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-and-OT-Is-a-tuner-using-VNA-feasible-tp7567559p7567578.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- *Gary - VK1ZZ Motorhome Portable The Shack* *Elecraft K3 P3 Panadapter KPA500FT KAT500FT** KX3-K * __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Hard for me to imagine how K3 firmware could cause this. Do you have another program with this capability you could try? You could also try sending FA (VFO A) commands directly to the K3 using the Command Tester screen in K3 Utility. See the Programmer's Reference for details. 73, Wayne N6KR On Dec 23, 2012, at 3:09 PM, David Boyd wrote: Disregard my last posting. I forgot to explain what is happening. Here is what my message should have said: I have a really odd bug going on and I don't know if it is the K3 or Ham Radio Deluxe. Whenever I click on a spot, everything works fine except when it happens to be any frequency in the 30s - that is 3.530 to 3.539, 7.030 to 7.039, etc. Any other frequency in the CW band shows up on the K3 and the mode is correctly changed to CW, except in the 30s, where it always shifts to SSB, even though it is in the CW band. Anyone know if that's an issue in the K3 or in HRD? I suspect it is in HRD. Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 Help
Last night when I went to bed all was working perfectly with my setup radio, tuner, amp this when I turned the amp, radio on tuner powers up when power supply is turned on nothing talks to each other. Turned everything off and tried again same thing amp, radio will not change bands together nor will the tuner tune the antenna. I powered all down again and shut down power supply and turned off power on rear on rear of amp. Powered all back up same thing no error messages of any kind. Any suggestions? 73, Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Software
Thanks to everyone that replied to my post about software. Looks like NaP3 is the way to go. Thanks 73 Nels W0TUP North Dakota __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 Help
I wanted to say to reinstall the firmwear with the Elecraft utility. But it seems like there must be more to the story like you moved the radio back a little on the shelf or some such. This really sounds more like a connector on the interconnecting cable coming loose, etc. Sent from my iPad Chuck, KE9UW (Jack for BMW motorcycles) On Dec 23, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Fred Smith m...@mo-net.com wrote: Last night when I went to bed all was working perfectly with my setup radio, tuner, amp this when I turned the amp, radio on tuner powers up when power supply is turned on nothing talks to each other. Turned everything off and tried again same thing amp, radio will not change bands together nor will the tuner tune the antenna. I powered all down again and shut down power supply and turned off power on rear on rear of amp. Powered all back up same thing no error messages of any kind. Any suggestions? 73, Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and HRD
Similar function with logger32 works fine on the K3.The mode will change according to mode definitions in the bands and modes table and sets mode when I click on a spot. HRD uses a similar setup. Is there possibly an error in the HRD band layout definitions as set in the band manager? possibly entries for the 30s segments. Mode is set based on band layouts and HRD the software sets rig mode, so i doubt it has much to do with the K3 firmware. If I am way off here, I must apologies. my answer assumes that this is similar in V6 as in earlier versions. On 12/23/2012 6:27 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hard for me to imagine how K3 firmware could cause this. Do you have another program with this capability you could try? You could also try sending FA (VFO A) commands directly to the K3 using the Command Tester screen in K3 Utility. See the Programmer's Reference for details. 73, Wayne N6KR I have a really odd bug going on and I don't know if it is the K3 or Ham Radio Deluxe. Whenever I click on a spot, everything works fine except when it happens to be any frequency in the 30s - that is 3.530 to 3.539, 7.030 to 7.039, etc. Any other frequency in the CW band shows up on the K3 and the mode is correctly changed to CW, except in the 30s, where it always shifts to SSB, even though it is in the CW band. Anyone know if that's an issue in the K3 or in HRD? I suspect it is in HRD. Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner
Interesting Gary, Some seem to get on ok and others have problems. Operator/setup error, perhaps that is all it is? I watched a demo on YouTube of one and quite frankly I would be very disappointed if that was how they operate. I think have seen and read too many conflicting stories now I would have to see one operating correctly and for longer than in a short YouTube video to be convinced either way. Maybe some reports from those who have had difficulty and since sorted it all out would be helpful. 73 John ZL1BYZ _ From: Gary Gregory [mailto:vk1zzg...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 11:42 To: John Shaw Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner The kat500 stores information in what are termed 'Bins' and communication of data via Auxbus recalls memories from these 'Bin' locations and hot switching does not occur. I can QSY, with the kpa500 in OPER and 'IF' the kat500 needs to tune it interrupts the amplifier key line and either selects from memory or does a tune if in auto etc. I rarely see a need for a retune once I have set up. I do this regularly as I am on the move touring and so I change antennas to suit where I am setting up. Wish VK had taller trees in more locations..;-) I have no issues here that need addressing with regards to operation, QSY or band changes/hopping etc KAT400 #007 might be licenced to kill but evrything has survived my addled brain and too fast/fat fingers...:-) 73's and Happy Holidays to all. Gary On 24 December 2012 08:24, John Shaw zl1...@nzart.org.nz wrote: My poor choice of words with intervals. I meant frequency intervals not time, that would be dumb. These could be further apart if you antenna is more broad banded as tuner settings would only need to change when SWR became unacceptable. This would mean with some antenna's and on higher bands probably no chatter at all. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Shaw Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:46 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner Very good thought, yes that would happen. A compromise could be some sort of matrix with this mode of operation where you train the tuner at set intervals and the tuner only re tunes when they are passed. This would reduce the chatter and of course the tuner would already be trained so the clicking would be minimal. I could live with that, better than all this hot switching, KPA500 errors and all the on the band QRM that this extra tuning while sending RF. Just a dream maybe but I know Elecraft is a progressive company always looking for ways to improve their product so thought I would pipe up. 73 John ZL1BYZ. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Keith-K5ENS Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012 09:00 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner I have asked the same question about the KAT500 following the K3 as tuned to be ready for any keying of the K3. I was told the relays in the KAT500 would click as I was tuning. SO? As an option I think that would be fine to know the KAT500 was tuned at all time. Keith, XE1/K5ENS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-and-OT-Is-a-tuner-using-VNA-feas http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-and-OT-Is-a-tuner-using-VNA-fea sible-tp7567559p7567565.html ible-tp7567559p7567565.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary - VK1ZZ Motorhome Portable The Shack Elecraft K3 P3 Panadapter KPA500FT KAT500FT KX3-K __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for December 23rd 24th, 2012
Good Evening, Both bands had high noise levels. On twenty it was mentioned by those who checked in; I did not notice it on my end. On forty noise was on both ends. The most amazing check in was from Corvallis, Oregon. There is at least one mountain in the way so it was not ground wave. The first hop on forty lands somewhere in California. Luckily Brian relayed Dan back to me. The temperature has bounced around freezing for the last week. With plenty of moisture coming in off the Pacific I have either been pelted with pellets or drenched by a deluge or sunk deep in heavy snow. I have gotten a lot of snow if you want to measure the inches as they fell. However, most of that is now far downstream in either the Tualatin or the Nehalem rivers. Tomorrow I'm due for a large amount of snow so I will have a very White Christmas :) On to the lists = On 14050 kHz at 2300z: AC5P - Mike - OK - K3 - 2170 K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113 On 7045 kHz at 0200z: K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113 W8OV - Dave - TX - K3 - 3139 N0DA - Dan - OR - KX3 - Until next week when we end the year, 73, Kevin. KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class) Have a very Merry Christmas! _ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KPA500 CAT commands
Some may get two copies of this e-mail. Sent to both DXLAB and ELECRAFT. I am trying to be able to turn the KPA500 on with a DXLAB Commander 'user defined controls' control. Any one been able to do this or know how? Thanks, Joe K2UF With enough THRUST pig fly just fine. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 Help
Since it's a daisy-chain signal path and, apparently, the K3 is working OK, the first place that I'd look is at the AUX cable leading from the K3. It is fully connected? If that looks good, I'd connect directly from the K3 to the KAT500 and check to see if it is communicating - does it change settings when you change bands? If so, connect directly to the KPA500 and see if the K3 communicates with it, making band changes from either unit. That should isolate which piece of equipment or which cable is a problem. 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 4:01 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3/KPA500/KAT500 Help Last night when I went to bed all was working perfectly with my setup radio, tuner, amp this when I turned the amp, radio on tuner powers up when power supply is turned on nothing talks to each other. Turned everything off and tried again same thing amp, radio will not change bands together nor will the tuner tune the antenna. I powered all down again and shut down power supply and turned off power on rear on rear of amp. Powered all back up same thing no error messages of any kind. Any suggestions? 73, Fred/N0AZZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [dxlab] KPA500 CAT commands
AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: dx...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dx...@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Joe K2UF Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:12 PM To: Dxlab; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [dxlab] KPA500 CAT commands Some may get two copies of this e-mail. Sent to both DXLAB and ELECRAFT. I am trying to be able to turn the KPA500 on with a DXLAB Commander 'user defined controls' control. Any one been able to do this or know how? Version E4 of the Elecraft K3 and KX3 Programmer's Reference, dated 2012-09-18, does not document any K3 CAT comamnd that powers up/down a KPA500. The KPA500 Programmers Reference documents a command that can be used to power a KPA500 up or down, but this requires an RS232 connection between your PC and the KPA500. At present, Commander provides no way to control a KPA500. It would be straightforward to extend Commander's user-defined command capability to send commands to whatever device is attached to its secondary CAT port. So if you're not currently using Commander's Secondary CAT port, and if you are willing to set up the required RS232 connection, the functionality you seek could be provided. 73, Dave, AA6YQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Dueling CQ During Mixed Mode 10 Meter Contest
I was hoping that there would be dueling CQ mode in Writelog when operating both CW and Phone during the recent 10 meter contest. During slow times, I wanted Writelog to alternate log entry focus between CW and Phone while alternately transmitting CQ in CW using the K1EL keyer, and then in Phone using a prerecorded wav file. I realize that there is a mode change involved but I thought that it might be possible given that everything occurs on the same band. Is this possible in any of the modern day contest logging programs? 73, Dave KG0US __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] HRD v 6 and K3
After multiple restarts of DM780 I finally closed all the software and rebooted. That resolved the incorrect worked markers I was experiencing. I found a second issue that all of the macros were set back to the defaults and I had to edit them. The software wouldn't let me edit. After being annoyed for some time trying to get an edit to take, I went to the macro file and it was locked as read only. Changing that resolved the issues. The macro file has been moved. It used to be in Program Files but it now in the hidden directory Program Data. Chris AB3QV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KAT500--a great tuner, or the greatest tuner ever?
Unless I am missing something, yes the Kat500 does follow the k3 or kpa500 around and select the band automatically. then it appears to call up the last tuning solution for that band, which is where you are. Its kinda spooky. My W2 now reads 1:1 most of the time. 73 Eric WD6DBM Sent from Eico 720 via ACC socket __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
