[Elecraft] OT: kit building

2013-08-24 Thread Edward R Cole

If you are thinking of the DEM kits - I build them on order.
1296 transceiver is not available from DEM while they re-design it.
http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm

I have DEM transverters for 144, 222, 432, and 1296 in use with my K3/10.
Contact me off the list if you need some set up help.

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future K-radio?
---snip
As far as 900 MHZ and 1.2 GHZ, DEM still has transverters, both
assembled and in kit form, for those bands.
I'm sure that someone on here has interfaced the K3 with DEM transverters.

73 de Jim - AD6CW



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Re: [Elecraft] Future K-radio?

2013-08-24 Thread Edward R Cole

Gary,

What you are envisioning is a perfect example of an idea that can 
become a new niche product.  If Elecraft chooses to not develop the 
concept, there is no reason that it cannot be done by someone else.


For example:  fabricating a cage for docking several transverter 
boards.  I'm pretty sure that one can arrange to purchase plain pcb's 
from some mfrs of transverters.  But you would need sufficient 
capital and business plan to present an attractive business proposal 
to the mfr.


I basically did this with DEM for their VHF/UHF transverter 
kits.  They had no objection to my building kits and reselling them, 
as they got to sell the kit.  I made sure not to be in competition 
with their sales of assembled units.


Many small ham radio businesses have gotten a start with just such an idea.
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From: Gary K9GS garyk...@wi.rr.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future K-radio?

What I was envisioning is a box...no display/front panel/speaker.  A
blank box.  Just something to install modules into.  It would be
CONTROLLED by the K3..saving on cost.


73, Ed - KL7UW
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Wish List - crossband

2013-08-24 Thread Jim Miller

Just wondering if crossband is possible without significant hardware changes
for those who have transverters or a second receiver.

73, Jim KG0KP


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Re: [Elecraft] Keyer weighting

2013-08-24 Thread John Oppenheimer
The K2 and K3 have near perfect equal key ON/OFF delays. Therefore, the
K3 and K2 will not normally need external keyer delay compensation.

The KX3 (measured with MCU 1.50 / DSP 1.21) has about 8 ms key ON to OFF
delay. The delay is for both the internal and external keyers. (Breakin
mode, XMIT not enabled)

The KX3 weight control can be used to compensate for the internal keyer
delay, though is speed dependent and runs out of compensation above
about 25 WPM. At 20 WPM with the KX3 Weight set to 1.15, the resulting
transmitter output weighting will be about 1:1.

For the KX3 with an external keyer, set the delay to 8 ms.

John KN5L
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[Elecraft] K3 CWT/Fine SPOT/RIT

2013-08-24 Thread John Oppenheimer
Will the KX3 features:
- CWT mode enables FINE tuning
- SPOT with RIT enabled tunes RIT, not VFO A
be ported to the K3?

John KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF/Fine SPOT/RIT

2013-08-24 Thread John Oppenheimer
Corrections:

On 08/24/2013 06:53 AM, John Oppenheimer wrote:
 Will the KX3 features:
 - APF mode enables FINE tuning
 - SPOT with RIT enabled tunes RIT, not VFO A
 be ported to the K3?
 
 John KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] What is this interference displayed in P3 ? It moves along with VFO

2013-08-24 Thread Bill


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Re: [Elecraft] What is this interference displayed in P3 ? It moves along with VFO

2013-08-24 Thread Bill
Could you describe what you are seeing - or, perhaps send a picture? I 
had problems early on with my P3 and it was just a lousy patch cable 
(between the K3 and the P3). I replaced the patch cable and all has been 
fine since then.


Bill W2BLC


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[Elecraft] DL1 - Measuring Coax Loss

2013-08-24 Thread John Oppenheimer
How many of you have an Elecraft DL1? It's an amazing piece of test
equipment for only $26 when coupled to an accurate DVM.

The DL1 is a simple 50 ohm dummy load with a peak detector diode. The
load on the diode is the input impedance of the voltmeter, normally
10 Meg Ohm, which results with a rather flat 0.25 Volt diode loss.

One use is to measure coax loss along with the KX3. The KX3, having an
active power control, has a very stable and repeatable power output.
The Fluke 87V has four significant digits when measuring 10 watts. The
KX3 output is repeatable, using the 87V AutoHOLD feature, within +-2 LSB
digits (+-0.02V) resulting with a resolution of about 0.022 dB.
Measuring coax requires two measurements, therefore, the coax loss
computation is within about 0.044 dB.

Some additional loss error may be caused by the DL1 50 ohm RF impedance.
I suspect that the DL1 is well within 2% in the HF region, probably
within 1%.

As a test, I measured and plotted a 100 foot piece of RG-58A/U. And
solved for K1, conductor loss, and K2, dielectric loss, constants.
Loss = K1 * SQRT(F) + K2 * F

http://www.kn5l.net/Elecraft/DL1RG58Loss.png

The Red line is for constants computed from
http://vk1od.net/calc/tl/tllc.php. The Green line is a least squares fit
to the measurements. The Blue ticks are the RG-58A/U measurements using
the KX3, DL1, and 87V.

John KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] Far OT trivia

2013-08-24 Thread pkhjr
Seems I remember the ARRL issuing a warning not to run phone patches for them
as they were conducting church business.  Think I had a card from the
mission but it was lost in a flood in 1989.

73 Tex
ka5y



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Re: [Elecraft] [P3 SVGA] Has anyone seen garbage in the waterfall display?

2013-08-24 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Hisashi,

From the photo is looks like you have your REF LVL set too high. The base
signal (noise level) should be slightly below the dividing line between the
upper display and the waterfall. Press the REF LVL button and turn the
SELECT knob counterclockwise until the noise level just disappears. 

The REF LVL will need to be changed from band to band but the P3 remembers
the setting on each band. Of course the level also changes with atmospheric
conditions, time of day, antenna direction, etc..

73,
Mike K2MK


Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote
 I just got my P3 SVGA card and it's just showing video noise in the
 waterfall. I reloaded the firmware just to see if that would fix things,
 and it did not.
 
 I'm not sure if you can attach things to the posts on here, so a picture
 of the display is at:
 http://www.i8u.org/~htodd/badwaterfall.jpg
 
 Any help would be appreciated.
 
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 htodd@

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Re: [Elecraft] Far OT trivia

2013-08-24 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
End of Thread. We're drifting a little too far OT.

73,

Eric
List Modulator
elecraft.com
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On Aug 24, 2013, at 6:36 AM, pkhjr k...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Seems I remember the ARRL issuing a warning not to run phone patches for them
 as they were conducting church business.  Think I had a card from the
 mission but it was lost in a flood in 1989.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] DL1 - Measuring Coax Loss

2013-08-24 Thread David Pratt
I am reluctance to reply on here as the reflector seems full of trash 
these days.  But yes, John, I wholeheartedly agree with you; the DL1 is 
excellent and well worth buying at that price. Rated at 20W it is ideal 
for setting up the K1, K2, KX1, KX3 and K3/10.


73 de David G4DMP

On 24/08/2013 13:28, John Oppenheimer wrote:

How many of you have an Elecraft DL1? It's an amazing piece of test
equipment for only $26 when coupled to an accurate DVM.


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Re: [Elecraft] [P3 SVGA] Has anyone seen garbage in the waterfall display?

2013-08-24 Thread d...@lightstream.net
Hello Hisashi,

It looks like you have a very high noise level, or, you never ran the
level calibration for the P3. Other than a few blips on the right half of
the screen, I don't see any signals, so I wouldn't expect to see much of
anything in the waterfall either.

That said, you can put the waterfall into a more usable range by simply
adjusting the REF LVL (on front panel of P3) downward until the bottom
edges of the noise spikes in your spectrum display baseline are just
hitting the bottom of the diving line between the spectrum display and the
waterfall display. That will produce the detail you're looking for in the
waterfal display.

73, Dale
WA8SRA



 I just got my P3 SVGA card and it's just showing video noise in the
 waterfall. I reloaded the firmware just to see if that would fix things,
 and it did not.

 I'm not sure if you can attach things to the posts on here, so a picture
 of the display is at:
 http://www.i8u.org/~htodd/badwaterfall.jpg

 Any help would be appreciated.

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[Elecraft] Ham Fair‏ in Tokyo

2013-08-24 Thread 須崎 純一
Hi all,



Ham Fair 2013 in Tokyo is held today and
tomorrow.

Elecraft equipment is not displayed at any
commercial booth so far.

We are demonstrating 6m outdoor operation
style using KX3 at the mountaineering booth.

I hope Elecraft will join the fair next
year.


Jun JI1TLL,

  
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[Elecraft] FS LP-Pan + E-MU 0202 for K3+others

2013-08-24 Thread cx7tt

Selling LP-Pan panadaptor + recommended soundcard E-MU 0202 (see
telepostinc dot come for detailed setup info). LP-Pan serial #080 was
assembled and tested/aligned by Larry N8LP.  He also has the LP Pan mod
kits IOT use with K2 plus other rigs; these are approx $15 including
shipping in US. See his website under LP Pan2 manual for table of rigs
that can use this setup and recommended configs.

Selling as I have P3 plus SVGA so excess to my needs.

I will be in Miami starting on 31 Aug and can ship in the US for $275,
total.  No Paypal but can take personal checks (as long as you dont mind
waiting until clears).

73
Tom
CX7TT
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Re: [Elecraft] What is this interference displayed in P3 ? It moves along with VFO

2013-08-24 Thread Vic K2VCO

Two possible causes for spurious signals on the P3 are

1) A bad coax jumper with a non-continuous shield (Elecraft had some at some 
point) , and

2) paint on the inside of the enclosure where the parts are joined.

Try a new jumper cable and make sure the mating surfaces of the enclosure are 
sanded clean.

On 8/23/2013 6:45 PM, Dale Harding K7DNH wrote:

I have noticed something the past couple of weeks... there is sometimes some
type of  signal showing up on the P3 that moves with the VFO..

1. note VFO @ 225 and Mkr A 237.95
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/file/n7578210/DNH_1041.jpg
2. mkr now at 237.95 - note signal 252.15
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/file/n7578210/DNH_1042.jpg
3. does not matter where VFO center is...
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/file/n7578210/DNH_1044.jpg

Sometimes it is there - sometimes it isn't.

I am not educated in electronics, however it must be coming from within the
radio or P3 correct? Ideas to fix  - does it need fixing?


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Re: [Elecraft] [P3 SVGA] Has anyone seen garbage in the waterfall display?

2013-08-24 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka

Aha. Things look quite different on both monitors, and as George Danner
pointed out, SVGA bias can be turned down to amke the display on the
SVGA look the same as on the internal monitor. Default is 9.9, I think,
and I turned it down to 1.2 at his suggestion.

Of course, my REF LVL needed adjusting as well.

Thanks for the help.

On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Mike K2MK wrote:


Hi Hisashi,


From the photo is looks like you have your REF LVL set too high. The base

signal (noise level) should be slightly below the dividing line between the
upper display and the waterfall. Press the REF LVL button and turn the
SELECT knob counterclockwise until the noise level just disappears.

The REF LVL will need to be changed from band to band but the P3 remembers
the setting on each band. Of course the level also changes with atmospheric
conditions, time of day, antenna direction, etc..

73,
Mike K2MK


Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote

I just got my P3 SVGA card and it's just showing video noise in the
waterfall. I reloaded the firmware just to see if that would fix things,
and it did not.

I'm not sure if you can attach things to the posts on here, so a picture
of the display is at:
http://www.i8u.org/~htodd/badwaterfall.jpg

Any help would be appreciated.

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htodd@



BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte






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[Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed

2013-08-24 Thread Julie Royster
Hello all,
I have studied the prior posts about KX3 and PSK31 but I am still not
getting it.

1.   The other day I succeeded in setting Mic Btn to OFF but today when
I go to the menu the only choices for Mic Btn are PTT and NR - OFF no longer
shows up as a choice!  Where did I go wrong?
2.  Has anyone succeeded in using a LAPTOP with KX3 without an iMic or a
signalink for PSK?  A lot of the prior posts refer to desktops that have a
line in connection (laptop does not) or to setups using iMic or Signalink.
3.  Would Don Wilhelm's comments about attenuators being needed between
computer soundcard and KX3 apply to laptops as well? How would I know? What
could I measure?
4.  I had a waterfall the other day but could not get TX to light up on
the KX3.  I am using the cables sold by Elecraft.
Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
Julie KT4JR 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed

2013-08-24 Thread Richard Neese

http://k4mtx.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/kx3-fldigi-setup/

this is the easiest setup...  this will get you up and running on bpsk31 
in no time


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed

2013-08-24 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Hi Julie,

On 2) you can do it, but you have to be careful.  Any of the system 
beeps or startup sounds may go out over the air, and you don't want that.


You don't need an elaborate USB sound card, but using one avoids making 
mistakes.


73 -- Lynn

On 8/24/2013 8:28 AM, Julie Royster wrote:

Hello all,
I have studied the prior posts about KX3 and PSK31 but I am still not
getting it.

1.   The other day I succeeded in setting Mic Btn to OFF but today when
I go to the menu the only choices for Mic Btn are PTT and NR - OFF no longer
shows up as a choice!  Where did I go wrong?
2.  Has anyone succeeded in using a LAPTOP with KX3 without an iMic or a
signalink for PSK?  A lot of the prior posts refer to desktops that have a
line in connection (laptop does not) or to setups using iMic or Signalink.
3.  Would Don Wilhelm's comments about attenuators being needed between
computer soundcard and KX3 apply to laptops as well? How would I know? What
could I measure?
4.  I had a waterfall the other day but could not get TX to light up on
the KX3.  I am using the cables sold by Elecraft.
Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
Julie KT4JR
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed

2013-08-24 Thread Nicklas Johnson
Hi Julie,

A lot of laptops these days are using those annoying combo jacks, which
instead of having a tip, ring, and sleeve, have a tip two rings, and a
sleeve, putting the mic-in and stereo headphone-out connections one a
single jack.  Splitters are available online, but I have not been
successful in getting those splitters to work either; it seems like the
on-board audio in many laptops senses whether one has plugged in a combo
plug versus a headphone plug by looking for a specific impedance on the
microphone side, and I haven't spent the time to figure out what impedance
they expect me to present.

I got sufficiently frustrated with it that I went down to my local computer
retailer and purchased a USB headset adapter.  It plugs into a USB port,
and has two jacks-- one for headphones, one for a microphone.  In reality
it's just a very simple sound card with one input and one output.  It works
a treat though.  Cost me all of $10, and it works with both my PC and my
Macbook Pro like a charm.  The one I have uses the C-Media chipset, and it
looks a little bit like this one, though this isn't exactly it:
http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-virtual-External-Adapter-USB-AUDD/dp/B00D69U1B0/

With regard to your PTT problem, make sure you're using a program that will
do PTT via CAT command.  If it is trying to do PTT by raising CTS or RTS,
you won't get anywhere.  You may need to install FlRig and use HamRig if
you're using FlDigi.

Hope this helps,

   Nick




On 24 August 2013 08:28, Julie Royster jsdroys...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hello all,
 I have studied the prior posts about KX3 and PSK31 but I am still not
 getting it.

 1.   The other day I succeeded in setting Mic Btn to OFF but today when
 I go to the menu the only choices for Mic Btn are PTT and NR - OFF no
 longer
 shows up as a choice!  Where did I go wrong?
 2.  Has anyone succeeded in using a LAPTOP with KX3 without an iMic or
 a
 signalink for PSK?  A lot of the prior posts refer to desktops that have a
 line in connection (laptop does not) or to setups using iMic or Signalink.
 3.  Would Don Wilhelm's comments about attenuators being needed between
 computer soundcard and KX3 apply to laptops as well? How would I know? What
 could I measure?
 4.  I had a waterfall the other day but could not get TX to light up on
 the KX3.  I am using the cables sold by Elecraft.
 Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
 Julie KT4JR
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Re: [Elecraft] DL1 - Measuring Coax Loss

2013-08-24 Thread EricJ
Excellent post, John. You don't mention that there is even more useful 
information about this on your web site.


I have always thought it would be very useful for Elecraft to post App 
Notes of this kind about all their mini-kits. I know several people who 
have built them seemingly to satisfy their kit addiction, but then toss 
them in a drawer and never use them. There is plenty of information 
around about how to use them, but I think it would be very helpful to 
see them used almost in a tutorial fashion as you have done here. 
Specific hook ups and tests on Elecraft gear with the noise generator, 
2-tone generator, etc.


Many of us have used equipment like this over decades, but Elecraft has 
introduced whole new generations to ham radio who could really benefit 
from knowing how to routinely use this test equipment, and enjoy a new 
aspect of the hobby at the same time.


I think the work you show on your web site could be the first of these 
App Notes.


Eric
KE6US

On 8/24/2013 5:28 AM, John Oppenheimer wrote:

How many of you have an Elecraft DL1? It's an amazing piece of test
equipment for only $26 when coupled to an accurate DVM.

The DL1 is a simple 50 ohm dummy load with a peak detector diode. The
load on the diode is the input impedance of the voltmeter, normally
10 Meg Ohm, which results with a rather flat 0.25 Volt diode loss.

One use is to measure coax loss along with the KX3. The KX3, having an
active power control, has a very stable and repeatable power output.
The Fluke 87V has four significant digits when measuring 10 watts. The
KX3 output is repeatable, using the 87V AutoHOLD feature, within +-2 LSB
digits (+-0.02V) resulting with a resolution of about 0.022 dB.
Measuring coax requires two measurements, therefore, the coax loss
computation is within about 0.044 dB.

Some additional loss error may be caused by the DL1 50 ohm RF impedance.
I suspect that the DL1 is well within 2% in the HF region, probably
within 1%.

As a test, I measured and plotted a 100 foot piece of RG-58A/U. And
solved for K1, conductor loss, and K2, dielectric loss, constants.
Loss = K1 * SQRT(F) + K2 * F

http://www.kn5l.net/Elecraft/DL1RG58Loss.png

The Red line is for constants computed from
http://vk1od.net/calc/tl/tllc.php. The Green line is a least squares fit
to the measurements. The Blue ticks are the RG-58A/U measurements using
the KX3, DL1, and 87V.

John KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 112, Issue 45

2013-08-24 Thread Esquer Dave
Julie,

I am still a newbie too, it'll happen. I use an iMic on an Macbook Pro with 
Fldigi software. It is very easy to use.


On Aug 24, 2013, at 6:00 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

 1. The other day I succeeded in setting Mic Btn to OFF but today when
 I go to the menu the only choices for Mic Btn are PTT and NR - OFF no longer
 shows up as a choice!  Where did I go wrong?

I do the Mic Btn OFF when the mic is still plugged in. I think if it is 
disconnected, the radio turns off that option.

 2.Has anyone succeeded in using a LAPTOP with KX3 without an iMic or a
 signalink for PSK?  A lot of the prior posts refer to desktops that have a
 line in connection (laptop does not) or to setups using iMic or Signalink.

That's how I first tried, per the Fred Cady book. It SHOULD work but … I gave 
up in frustration. I can send you the pages from his book that describe that 
process but it sounds like you know what to do. The USB approach is easier and 
better, supposedly, for noise isolation.

 3.Would Don Wilhelm's comments about attenuators being needed between
 computer soundcard and KX3 apply to laptops as well? How would I know? What
 could I measure?

You got me on that one!

 4.I had a waterfall the other day but could not get TX to light up on
 the KX3.  I am using the cables sold by Elecraft.

The Keyer/MIC level controls the TX on PSK ( I think). For reference, my phone 
(SSB) setting when using the mic is about 25. When doing PSK, I set the level 
to 4, quite a difference.

You set the TX to VOX, right?

 Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!

Good luck and you'll get it figured out with the elmers that are here, they are 
a great bunch. I was SO frustrated, especially being on a MAC, but got it 
sorted out.

Dave, K6WDE

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed

2013-08-24 Thread Mark Petiford
Julie,

First of all, I assume you are trying to use the KX3 with a soundcard 
application like FLDIGI with the KX3 in Data A mode???  Operating in the KX3 
PSK mode (PSK-D) is a bit different, and only certain software packages support 
it.


Re:  The other day I succeeded in setting Mic Btn to OFF but today when I go 
to the menu the only choices for Mic Btn are PTT and NR...

I assume you mean NA rather than NR.  The menus are mode sensitive meaning 
if you are in a mode where that menu selection doesn't apply, it doesn't allow 
you to select it and usually says NA.  I think mine gives me NA when I am in 
Data A mode.  I am sure it does when in CW mode.

Re: Has anyone succeeded in using a LAPTOP with KX3 without an iMic or a 
signalink for PSK?

Yes.  I use the internal soundcard on all my computers.  IF you are trying to 
decode the IQ output at the same time, you will need a second soundcard, but 
don't worry about that yet.  I go directly into the computer's mic input and 
take sound out of the phones output.  Setting up the internal computer settings 
is the hard part.  Every operating system is different.  I normally use an 
i-Mic because it is inexpensive and works well, even on my Windows machines, 
and avoids transmitting system sounds.  I do not see any need for Signalink, 
attenuators, etc. All of that just makes life more difficult.

Re:  Would Don Wilhelm's comments about attenuators being needed between 
computer soundcard and KX3 apply to laptops as well? How would I know? What 
could I measure?

I have tried them, but find that they just confuse the issue.  They create 
another variable that you have to deal with.  I just use the Elecraft cables 
and connect directly.  On RX, the soundcard volume (and the KX3's volume 
control) affect the waterfall intensity.  If either of them are too low, you 
won't see anything on the waterfall...to high, and you will only see very 
bright colors.  For Transmitt, the soundcard volume affects the ALC setting.  
You don't want to get into ALC since it is a non-linear process.  See the KX3 
manual and your software docs for setting soundcard volume (and ALC).


Re:  I had a waterfall the other day but could not get TX to light up...

What software package are you using?  The setup varies for different software 
packages.  In addition, sometimes the soundcard gets put on mute.  Other times, 
software (other than your ham radio software) will change the volume settings.  
You may need to go to the operating system's soundcard settings  and adjust 
them every time you start up you ham radio software.  That is why a lot of hams 
will use a dedicated computer(s) for their operations.

Not much help here.  Just trying to give you encouragement.

Mark
KE6BB



 From: Julie Royster jsdroys...@bellsouth.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:28 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed
 

Hello all,
I have studied the prior posts about KX3 and PSK31 but I am still not
getting it.

1.     The other day I succeeded in setting Mic Btn to OFF but today when
I go to the menu the only choices for Mic Btn are PTT and NR - OFF no longer
shows up as a choice!  Where did I go wrong?
2.    Has anyone succeeded in using a LAPTOP with KX3 without an iMic or a
signalink for PSK?  A lot of the prior posts refer to desktops that have a
line in connection (laptop does not) or to setups using iMic or Signalink.
3.    Would Don Wilhelm's comments about attenuators being needed between
computer soundcard and KX3 apply to laptops as well? How would I know? What
could I measure?
4.    I had a waterfall the other day but could not get TX to light up on
the KX3.  I am using the cables sold by Elecraft.
Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
Julie KT4JR 
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[Elecraft] K3/0 to K3

2013-08-24 Thread Steven Bertsch
My friend uses the K3/0 to connect to my K3, and that works fine.

But when I use my K3, I use Ham Radio Deluxe which would normally connect to 
the 9 pin RS232 on the back of my K3, but since I have one of the remote boxes 
connected to my K3 9 pin RS232, I would use the com1 on the front of the remote 
box. I have Ham Radio Deluxe set for com1 but it won't connect to my K3 now.

Has anyone had this problem?

Steve K6SAB


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[Elecraft] Important Shipping Information

2013-08-24 Thread Lisa Jones - Elecraft Sales
Elecraft shipping and production will be closed for fiscal year end 
inventory from Aug. 29 to Sept. 3. Shipping will resume on Wednesday, 
Sept. 4.


Every effort will be made to ship orders received  between Aug. 29 and 8 
am PDT Wednesday, Sept. 3,  by the end of the day Wednesday.


You will be notified of any shipping delays

Phone and email sales and support will be available.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 to K3

2013-08-24 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Steven Bertsch sabert...@gmail.com wrote:
 My friend uses the K3/0 to connect to my K3, and that works fine.

 But when I use my K3, I use Ham Radio Deluxe which would normally connect to 
 the 9 pin RS232 on the back of my K3, but since I have one of the remote 
 boxes connected to my K3 9 pin RS232, I would use the com1 on the front of 
 the remote box. I have Ham Radio Deluxe set for com1 but it won't connect to 
 my K3 now.

 Has anyone had this problem?

There's some configuration required on the RRC units to make that
work. Specifically, you need to set COM1 mode (under Serial
Settings) to either Mode 6 or Mode 7 (depending on whether or not
your friend also wants to connect rig-control software to the RRC at
his place).

73,

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 to K3

2013-08-24 Thread Steven Bertsch
It works!!! FANTASTIC!!! Thanks so much iain. I had to make the baud rate 
change to 38400. It was set to 9600.

73, Steve K6SAB


On Aug 24, 2013, at 11:00 AM, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Steven Bertsch sabert...@gmail.com wrote:
 My friend uses the K3/0 to connect to my K3, and that works fine.
 
 But when I use my K3, I use Ham Radio Deluxe which would normally connect to 
 the 9 pin RS232 on the back of my K3, but since I have one of the remote 
 boxes connected to my K3 9 pin RS232, I would use the com1 on the front of 
 the remote box. I have Ham Radio Deluxe set for com1 but it won't connect to 
 my K3 now.
 
 Has anyone had this problem?
 
 There's some configuration required on the RRC units to make that
 work. Specifically, you need to set COM1 mode (under Serial
 Settings) to either Mode 6 or Mode 7 (depending on whether or not
 your friend also wants to connect rig-control software to the RRC at
 his place).
 
 73,
 
~iain / N6ML

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed

2013-08-24 Thread bill conkling
Many laptops have stereo line in and mono mic in.

I think even my old Pentium 4 Dell laptop had stereo line in.

PSK31 should be quite easy.  Re-read the digital section of the manual and you 
should be able to get it going.

ALSO note that many button presses or menu items are mode specific.  Don't try 
to set mic gain in CW mode, etc.

...bill nr4c

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Julie Royster jsdroys...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Hello all,
I have studied the prior posts about KX3 and PSK31 but I am still not
getting it.

1.  The other day I succeeded in setting Mic Btn to OFF but today when
I go to the menu the only choices for Mic Btn are PTT and NR - OFF no longer
shows up as a choice!  Where did I go wrong?
2. Has anyone succeeded in using a LAPTOP with KX3 without an iMic or a
signalink for PSK?  A lot of the prior posts refer to desktops that have a
line in connection (laptop does not) or to setups using iMic or Signalink.
3. Would Don Wilhelm's comments about attenuators being needed between
computer soundcard and KX3 apply to laptops as well? How would I know? What
could I measure?
4. I had a waterfall the other day but could not get TX to light up on
the KX3.  I am using the cables sold by Elecraft.
Any and all advice is greatly appreciated!
Julie KT4JR 
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[Elecraft] Need K3,KPA550 KAT500 cabling diagram

2013-08-24 Thread Bill OMara
Can someone point me to the location or send me a cabling diagram for
connection all three devices.

 

I need to make sure I have or order all of the required cables and Y's to
have full operability of the system.

 

Thanks and 73 Bill  W4RM

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Re: [Elecraft] Need K3,KPA550 KAT500 cabling diagram

2013-08-24 Thread Ian Kahn - Ham
Bill,

The proper wiring diagrams are in KAT500 (p. 5)  manual, available for
download from Elecraft's web site.

KAT500 -
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740183%20KAT500%20Owner's%20Manual-%20Rev%20
C.pdf

Hope this helps, and gud luck.

73,

--Ian 
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team

-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill OMara
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:20 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Need K3,KPA550  KAT500 cabling diagram

Can someone point me to the location or send me a cabling diagram for
connection all three devices.

 

I need to make sure I have or order all of the required cables and Y's to
have full operability of the system.

 

Thanks and 73 Bill  W4RM

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Re: [Elecraft] Need K3,KPA550 KAT500 cabling diagram

2013-08-24 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Figure 1 on page 5 of the KAT500 owner's manual (I'm looking at revision C).

If you have other things to connect to the AUX connector you may need a Y.
For the basic K3, KAT500, and KPA500 you don't need any Ys, you just need
two of the 15-pin accessory cables.

73 de Dick, K6KR



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill OMara
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 13:20 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Need K3,KPA550  KAT500 cabling diagram

Can someone point me to the location or send me a cabling diagram for
connection all three devices.

 

I need to make sure I have or order all of the required cables and Y's to
have full operability of the system.

 

Thanks and 73 Bill  W4RM

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[Elecraft] E-mail account hacked

2013-08-24 Thread Don Putnick
The email account I use ONLY for the Elecraft List was hacked.
I apologize for any spam you may have received.
Sorry and 73,
Don NA6Z
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[Elecraft] KAT500/Icom help

2013-08-24 Thread David Bunte
A friend runs an IC756 Pro III, and recently got a KAT500 tuner.  He likes
it, but when he presses the tune button on either the tuner or the radio,
the tuning solution is not always a good one... when he then keys the
radio, a better solution is sought.  He believes the problem is that the
Icom puts out only 10 watts when tuning, but the KAT500 wants higher power.

Does this sound like an accurate diagnosis?  Can someone suggest a
solution?  (I already suggested a K3).  I asked if the Icom can be set for
a higher output in the tune mode, and he was not certain, but thought not,
since, when the cable to the tuner is unplugged from the back of the radio,
the internal tuner would then see the higher power, and might not be happy
with that.

My friend is so busy at work that he has refrained from joining this group,
fearing that he would not have time to read all the traffic, but I can
either relay to him... or pass along his email, if one of you learned
friends would like to work with him on this challenge.

Very 73 de Dave - K9FN
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[Elecraft] Future R radio dreamin'

2013-08-24 Thread Bill Schwantes
I've been watching this K radio wish list thread and I liked where it went.
I too would like to see a new  Elecraft KV3  as a technical update to the
venerable Yaesu FT-736r.  Some features of interest are:

-  Dual simultaneous receive; switchable among the VHF bands; 50 and 144 as
a minimum. Selectable transmit on either single band.

-  Dual band stereo audio with each receiver in each ear. Also front panel
selectable for both ears on one receiver or the other

-  Optional modular capability for 222, 432, 902/3 and 1296 Mhz bands

-  State of the art receive performance with respect to sensitivity without
external (PR-6 type) pre-amplification.

-  K3 receive performance with respect to strong adjacent signal rejection.

-  Future 70 Mhz  expansion capability

-  Architecture similar to K3/0 or KX3 type user interface with remote
black box for RF power handling, switching, sequencing and cooling chores.
Feedlines, external keying, external  IF, freq reference would interface
with the remote box, and some infrequently accessed user adjustments would
reside there.  User interfaces, mic, key/paddle, external PC would connect
to the user interface box.

-  Seperate RF inputs/outputs for each band with user defined TR switching
or seperate rcv and xmt paths

-  Compatible with P3 and /or other graphical displays

-  100 watt power output on 6 and 2 meters, 25+ watt power output on 1.25 M
and 70 cm bands; 10+ watts on 33 and 23 cm bands

-  Separately adjustable output power for each band with no key-up power
spike.

 -  High duty cycle transmit capability

-  Capability to discipline IF and LO frequencies with an internal or
external  precision 10 Mhz reference.

- Available zero dBm (1 milliwatt) drive on 28 and 144 Mhz selectable per
band for external transverters

-  Integrated KRC2 type band decoder

-  Integrated five event sequencer for each band with the KV3 keying
selectable as any one of those  five events. Menu selectable event delay
and per band external electrical access on each sequenced event.

-  Variable VFO doppler correction rates for each receiver
-  Mode change from SSB to CW without VFO change
Sweet dreams..

Bill W7QQ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed

2013-08-24 Thread Richard Neese


You don't need an elaborate USB sound card, but using one avoids 
making mistakes.


You do if you use the I/Q port and a laptop as most mic inputs on 
laptops are mono.
so using a usb sound card should give you stereo mic inpu for i/q audio. 
If you check and make

sure the usb has stersio mic port some do some dont.

--
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KB3VGW

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed

2013-08-24 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Maybe I'm missing something.  My reasoning for a second sound card is 
keeping the system sounds going out over the air.


On 8/24/2013 3:15 PM, Richard Neese wrote:
You do if you use the I/Q port and a laptop as most mic inputs on 
laptops are mono.
so using a usb sound card should give you stereo mic inpu for i/q 
audio. If you check and make

sure the usb has stersio mic port some do some dont.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed

2013-08-24 Thread Mike Harris

Turn them off, that's what I have done.  Mostly they are just ear wax.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 24/08/2013 21:42, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

Maybe I'm missing something.  My reasoning for a second sound card is
keeping the system sounds going out over the air.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed

2013-08-24 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Agreed, but I use my computers. They're business tools and not something 
that I dedicate solely to my hobby.  I know that's a little different 
from most here.


A relatively inexpensive USB soundcard is cheap insurance -- and an 
expensive soundcard is still cheaper than another laptop, and one is 
easier to carry than two.


73 -- Lynn

On 8/24/2013 6:01 PM, Mike Harris wrote:

Turn them off, that's what I have done.  Mostly they are just ear wax.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed

2013-08-24 Thread Don Wilhelm

Lynn,

Not only keeping the system sounds from going out on the air, BUT ---
If you are using a laptop, the internal sound card typically has only a 
Mic level input (no line-in).
With a mic level input, the KX3 (or K3) will overdrive the mic input 
unless you provide an attenuator in the line.
Similarly, the soundcard line out is too large a level for the mic input 
of the KX3, and you may need an attenuator - that depends on your 
computers line out and the amount of control you have for the output level.


The 3rd reason is that many internal sound cards have a lousy noise 
floor.  An external card will usually beat the internal soundcard when 
the noise floors are compared.


That being said, internal soundcards have improved in the last few 
years, so give it a try (especially if you have a desktop) and see if 
the results are adequate for your needs - you can always add a USB 
soundcard later.


73,
Don W3FPR
On 8/24/2013 8:42 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something.  My reasoning for a second sound card is 
keeping the system sounds going out over the air.




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[Elecraft] 4S lipo battery for KX3?

2013-08-24 Thread Gil G.
Hello,

I just got a lipo charger and 3S packs for my MTR and K1, but I wonder if a 4S 
pack could be used with my KX3? The voltage is presumably 14.8V, but I assume 
it would be a little more at full charge..? Is anyone using a 4S battery pack 
with the KX3?
I guess I could use one or two diodes to drop 0.6 or 1.2V…?

Thanks.

Gil.
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PGP Key: http://keskydee.com/gil.asc

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2013-08-24 Thread kevinr

Good Evening,
   During this week summer changed to fall.  Nights were crisper and 
the smell of the forest has changed.  Luckily it has been a fairly moist 
year with all of the fog.  Very, very little rain but when the fog rolls 
in the trees rain on themselves.  Fire danger has not gotten very high 
this summer; hopefully it will continue so until the rainy season begins.


   Propagation was decent to good this week on my skeds into Alaska.  
Some flutter but the sun has been shooting at us again. According to 
Space Weather another CME is due to hit.  Aurora alerts for tonight so 
those of you closer to the magnetic pole may get a treat.  I may have 
seen aurora here in Oregon but nothing like what I have seen in 
Wisconsin.  Half the sky red with long streamers shooting from north to 
south horizons faster than I can write it.  I once watched as the 
initial burst changed into a more stable display of drifting curtains.  
Over the space of two hours I saw all the standard features along with 
more colors than the normal light green.  Blue and red were common that 
night.


   Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening.

1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help  (as well as QSP/QNP relay help)

Sunday 2200z (Sunday 3 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0100z (Sunday 6 PM PDT)  7045 kHz

   Stay well,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS

-

Elecraft CW Net Reports for -

August 11, 2013

  On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:
N0TA - John - CO - K3 - 994
K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
K6MGO - Bill - CA - K3 - 5181

August 12, 2013

  On 7045.5 kHz at 0100z:
K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113
N0TA - John - CO - K3 - 994
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1183
W8OV - Dave - TX - K3 - 3139

August 18, 2013

  On 14050 kHz at 2200z:
AC5P - Mike - OK - K3 - 2170
K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
KB3FBR - Joe - PA - K2 - 6178
K7RNO - Arno - UT

August 19, 2013

  On 7045 kHz at 0100z:
K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1183
N0TA - John  - CO - K3 - 994

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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net results for 8/18/13 and net announcement

2013-08-24 Thread Phil Shepard

Last Sunday's net was particularly large with 48 check-ins.

Participants  from the 8/18/13 net follow:

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

N6JWJohnCA  K3  936
KM4IK   Ian GA  K3  281
K4QETonyNC  K3  6478
W7NMD   Palmer  AR  K3  3779
N0CEDickMN  K3  5705
WV5IDwayne  TX  K3  5287
K5ZCJ   Larry   OK  K3  6592
KF5IMA  Bruce   MS  K2  3575
W4PFM   PaulVA  K3  1673
N1OXA   IvanME  K3  4538
K6JHB   Jim CA  K3  4359
K4GCJ   Gerry   NC  K3  1597
N1RXBruce   NH  K3  559
KA7MAY  Calvin  UT  KX3 2706
KA6GMA  GlenCA  K3  7522
AB7CE   Roy MT  KX3 115
W8OVDaveTX  K3  3139
W7LRY   Larry   CO  K3  6347
VE7EAR  Al  BC  KX3 3158
K7GED   Geddes  ID  KX3 4218
VE3XM   Bob ON  K3  409
VE7QJ   EarlBC  Flex 5000
K5EJK   Ernie   TX  K3  6733
K6VWE/m StanWI  IC7000
N7PUG/m JohnWY  FT857
K8JDC   DaveOH  K3  6332
KB9HVO  Keith   IL  FT840
WA8DHQ  JohnOH  TS590
K4TMCaryVA  K3  3448
KK5E/m  RussTX  FT890
KA0NCR  Arnie   NE  K3  185
KL7UW   Ed  AK  K3  4340
WW4FDarrell VA  K3  4539
AA3CS   Chuck   MD  K3  4072
W9JCJoe OH  K3  6623
KE5SZA  JohnOK  KX3 726
N5HMH   MarkLA  FT450
WW4JF   JohnTN  K3  6185
KN5LJohnTX  KX3 1658
W7QHD   KurtAZ  K2  1538
KJ1DRickTN  K3  5221
VE7YO   Bob BC  K2  3906
N7ZOBob OR  K3  4532
K7EMF   GaryWA  K3  4628
K6FWFrank   CA  K3  
KD0NEO  Wayne   MO  K3  5070
KJ6CBS  DaveCA  K3  4052
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

This week's net will be tomorrow at 1800z on 14.3035 MHz.  I will be net 
control from Oregon.  See you then.

73,
Phil, NS7P

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PSK help needed

2013-08-24 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
My last desktop machine died in 2006. It led a long and useful life, at 
least two standard eternities.*


... but I realized that my laptop was twice as powerful as my desktop, 
so I just switched -- and haven't looked back.


73 -- Lynn

* In computer terms, one standard eternity is three years.

On 8/24/2013 7:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
That being said, internal soundcards have improved in the last few 
years, so give it a try (especially if you have a desktop) and see if 
the results are adequate for your needs - you can always add a USB 
soundcard later.


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