Re: [Elecraft] KX3 AND DIGITAL INTERFACE QUESTION

2014-12-06 Thread Dave Sublette
Thanks to Bill and Matt for their prompt and helpful replies.  I should
have mentioned that I think I need an external box type of sound
card/interface, and preferably one that can use the I and Q outputs from
the KX3.  The reason is that I am already plugged into the audio jack on my
computer with the output from the SDR.  My computer is a MAC Mini, which
has no means of accepting additional internal cards like the PC.

BTW -- I'm really enjoying my MAC. It runs OS X 10 - Yosemite and also
Windows7/64 bit.  I have the Parallels10 program that runs both O/S's at
the same time. I am able to run ham apps on Windows that I cannot fine for
the MAC.

73 all,

Dave, K4TO



On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Matt VK2RQ matt.vk...@gmail.com wrote:

 1) yes you can run SDR in one windows and a digimode program like FLdigi
 for your KX3 in another.

 2) pretty much any USB soundcard/dongle will work for basic digimodes.
 However, if you want to get something that can also be used for SDR (eg.
 Using the KX3 I/Q SDR output), then you'll need a stereo soundcard with a
 reasonable sample rate. Something like this will work well:
 http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Labs-Blaster-Surround-System/dp/B0017QQQAE

 73,
 Matt VK2RQ

  On 6 Dec 2014, at 2:49 pm, Dave Sublette k4to.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I have had my KX3 for just over a year now, and love it.  I am wanting to
  try some of the digital modes using a computer and a third party software
  package.  I already use a logging program which controls the KX3.  I also
  have a Softrock SDR receiver and use HDSDR to look at the spectrum.  I
 tell
  you all of this to establish that I am not a total newcomer to the
 concept
  of computer/radio operation.
 
  But when it comes to digital modes,  I’m looking for some advice.  Since
 I
  already use the internal sound card, I believe I will need an external
  interface with its own sound card.  The third party software would then
  select the external interface to look at for its display.
 
  At this point I have two questions:
 
  1)  Since the computer can open several windows at at time, can I look at
  the SDR in one window and run the KX3 on digital modes in another?  I
  should mention that the SDR is fed by another radio.
 
  2) which interface with its own sound card would you recommend?
 
  Thanks.  I’m  looking forward to being involved with this group.
 
  73,
 
  Dave, K4TO
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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Eric Ross
I think it's almost better to get a much cheaper older rig first.  In my latest 
run as a ham I started with an old Kenwood TS140 for about $350.   It worked 
fine for what it could do.  It couldn't break apart pileups but it allowed me 
to make many QSOs.  However, when I got my K3--wow!  I don't think I could 
really appreciate the K3 unless I had first used a basic rig first.  I still 
get a thrill when I narrow the bandpass down to 50hz.

I still have the TS140 which is perfect for using in high risk environments 
and/or lending to the next new ham.

Eric
WB7SDE

On December 5, 2014 11:29:13 PM PST, Gary Gregory vk1zzg...@gmail.com wrote:
Don

You should add that the K3 has been around for quite awhile now so it
has
proven not just its performance but adoption by many knowledgeable hams
around the world and has also proven very reliable operating in less
than
ideal conditionsask me how i know this:-)

No better advertisement than customer satisfaction i supposegrin
Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 06/12/2014 3:48 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Yes, simple is better, but if that new ham is interested in having a
 top-notch station, he will be well advised to consider Elecraft gear.
 If
 for no other reason than the Elecraft gear is upgradable -- one does
not
 have to buy the whole ball of wax at the initial purchase time, it
can be
 upgrades as operating needs arise.

 My typical response to new hams is that they do not yet know what
they
 will want for whatever type of operation they might eventually become
 interested in, so yes, they should get some operating experience
under
 their belts before deciding on which rig they would want for their
 station.  That can be simply a borrowed transceiver to get that new
ham on
 the air.

 However, if the new ham does not have  locals who will loan him
 transceivers to get on the air, the KX3 offers a great receiver,
and a
 limited number of options, which I believe will serve the novice
operator
 well for a very long time.  The only question is do you want higher
than
 15 watts power?  If yes, then the KXPA100 is available and if you do
not
 have resonant antennas, the KXAT100 is a good wide range auto tuner.

 The K3 is also a good choice for beginning hams.  Many get hung up on
what
 filters to purchase with the K3, but my recommendation to the new ham
is to
 purchase no optional filters - the DSP provides gppd filtering except
in
 crowded band conditions such a contests and extreme DXing.  As
operating
 experience is gained, that new ham who has now been seasoned may want
 additional filters, and they are easily added to the K3.  Likewise
the
 SubRX may be useful in some operating scenarios, but the new ham
would not
 know the advantages provided by the SubRX until he gets his feet
wet.
 The price of a basic K3 or a basic KX3 is within the realm of other
high
 end transceivers on the market (and in fact may be priced less than
many
 other comparable transceivers).

 Bottom line, I would not hesitate to recommend a basic K3 or KX3 to
any
 new ham.  He will have a great receiver, and the options offered by
 Elecraft can allow that new ham to customize his station by adding
options
 as his needs and operating experiences dictate.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 12/5/2014 10:55 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote:

 I really have to agree.  Simple is better to start with.  I don't
 consider the KX3 to be simple by any means.  Having some immediate
success
 is the best way to keep a new ham interested.  I keep several
loaners
 around that aren't worth very much on the used market but serve very
well
 as starter rigs.  At least twice those loaners have gone to young
men with
 an interest that eventually led to getting licensed. (Both now
Extras).

 On the other hand, if a new ham has an accessible Elmer and has an
 opportunity for a short course in KX3 operating AND happens to be
able to
 erect a decent antenna, it might indeed be a fine choice.

 Like a lot of things in life - it all depends...

 73, Doug -- K0DXV

 On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:27:06 -0700, Don Butler n...@comcast.net
wrote:

  There seems to be unanimous agreement here, but I beg to differ. 
In my
 opinion, the KX3 is not ideal for a typical beginning general class
 operator.   I own a KX3 myself, and I think it's wonderful, and I
doubt
 that
 I will ever part with it.  It shines when it comes to portable
operation
 ..
 That's why I bought it, that's what I use it for, and it's by far
the
 best
 portable rig I've ever owned.  I also have two K3s in my shack, and
I use
 them when I'm operating there, which is the vast majority of the
time.
  But
 let's face it, most beginning hams are forced to deal with budget
limits,
 and a new KX3 is expensive.  The last time I checked, the cost of a
 loaded
 KX3 with an outboard KXPA100 setup for HF only is well over $2300
plus
 tax
 and shipping, and that's without a power supply.

 We know that the antenna system is the most 

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Ubdate

2014-12-06 Thread W2BLC

Well said!

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Al Gulseth
I agree that a less expensive rig may be a better way to go for a beginning 
ham. That being said, I'm surprised the option of a K2 hasn't been mentioned. 
It's a nice clean easy to use layout with an excellent RX in a compact 
package which can be obtained (especially used) without breaking the budget.

73, Al

On Sat December 6 2014 6:57:55 am Eric Ross wrote:
 I think it's almost better to get a much cheaper older rig first.  In my
 latest run as a ham I started with an old Kenwood TS140 for about $350.  
 It worked fine for what it could do.  It couldn't break apart pileups but
 it allowed me to make many QSOs.  However, when I got my K3--wow!  I don't
 think I could really appreciate the K3 unless I had first used a basic rig
 first.  I still get a thrill when I narrow the bandpass down to 50hz.

 I still have the TS140 which is perfect for using in high risk environments
 and/or lending to the next new ham.

 Eric
 WB7SDE

 On December 5, 2014 11:29:13 PM PST, Gary Gregory vk1zzg...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Don
 
 You should add that the K3 has been around for quite awhile now so it
 has
 proven not just its performance but adoption by many knowledgeable hams
 around the world and has also proven very reliable operating in less
 than
 ideal conditionsask me how i know this:-)
 
 No better advertisement than customer satisfaction i supposegrin
 Gary
 Vk1ZZ
 K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
 
 On 06/12/2014 3:48 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
  Yes, simple is better, but if that new ham is interested in having a
  top-notch station, he will be well advised to consider Elecraft gear.
 
  If
 
  for no other reason than the Elecraft gear is upgradable -- one does
 
 not
 
  have to buy the whole ball of wax at the initial purchase time, it
 
 can be
 
  upgrades as operating needs arise.
 
  My typical response to new hams is that they do not yet know what
 
 they
 
  will want for whatever type of operation they might eventually become
  interested in, so yes, they should get some operating experience
 
 under
 
  their belts before deciding on which rig they would want for their
  station.  That can be simply a borrowed transceiver to get that new
 
 ham on
 
  the air.
 
  However, if the new ham does not have  locals who will loan him
  transceivers to get on the air, the KX3 offers a great receiver,
 
 and a
 
  limited number of options, which I believe will serve the novice
 
 operator
 
  well for a very long time.  The only question is do you want higher
 
 than
 
  15 watts power?  If yes, then the KXPA100 is available and if you do
 
 not
 
  have resonant antennas, the KXAT100 is a good wide range auto tuner.
 
  The K3 is also a good choice for beginning hams.  Many get hung up on
 
 what
 
  filters to purchase with the K3, but my recommendation to the new ham
 
 is to
 
  purchase no optional filters - the DSP provides gppd filtering except
 
 in
 
  crowded band conditions such a contests and extreme DXing.  As
 
 operating
 
  experience is gained, that new ham who has now been seasoned may want
  additional filters, and they are easily added to the K3.  Likewise
 
 the
 
  SubRX may be useful in some operating scenarios, but the new ham
 
 would not
 
  know the advantages provided by the SubRX until he gets his feet
 
 wet.
 
  The price of a basic K3 or a basic KX3 is within the realm of other
 
 high
 
  end transceivers on the market (and in fact may be priced less than
 
 many
 
  other comparable transceivers).
 
  Bottom line, I would not hesitate to recommend a basic K3 or KX3 to
 
 any
 
  new ham.  He will have a great receiver, and the options offered by
  Elecraft can allow that new ham to customize his station by adding
 
 options
 
  as his needs and operating experiences dictate.
 
  73,
  Don W3FPR
 
  On 12/5/2014 10:55 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote:
  I really have to agree.  Simple is better to start with.  I don't
  consider the KX3 to be simple by any means.  Having some immediate
 
 success
 
  is the best way to keep a new ham interested.  I keep several
 
 loaners
 
  around that aren't worth very much on the used market but serve very
 
 well
 
  as starter rigs.  At least twice those loaners have gone to young
 
 men with
 
  an interest that eventually led to getting licensed. (Both now
 
 Extras).
 
  On the other hand, if a new ham has an accessible Elmer and has an
  opportunity for a short course in KX3 operating AND happens to be
 
 able to
 
  erect a decent antenna, it might indeed be a fine choice.
 
  Like a lot of things in life - it all depends...
 
  73, Doug -- K0DXV
 
  On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:27:06 -0700, Don Butler n...@comcast.net
 
 wrote:
   There seems to be unanimous agreement here, but I beg to differ.
 
 In my
 
  opinion, the KX3 is not ideal for a typical beginning general class
  operator.   I own a KX3 myself, and I think it's wonderful, and I
 
 doubt
 
  that
  I will ever part with it.  It shines when it 

Re: [Elecraft] P3 - unfinished product

2014-12-06 Thread Kevin Stover
I am continuously amazed by the amount of stuff people want to add to 
Elecraft products, in this case the P3, that are done BETTER and CHEAPER 
by other things.


Want to monitor your output waveform...buy a used oscilloscope and spend 
$10 for the parts to build a sampler. Better yet buy one of the 
inexpensive  dual channel 100MHz Rigol O-scopes for less than $400 and 
you've got an output monitor AND an O-scope.


How about we just add an solid state drive and Intel i3 processor with 
appropriate motherboard with really good on board sound chip (oxymoron?) 
running Windows 10 to the P3 and you could replace your shack 
computer...kinda...sorta Of course the cost of all this convenience 
will triple or quadruple the price of the P3... Of course Elecraft would 
have to add a couple dozen personnel for the inevitable help 
desk...but it will have a real good gee whiz factor.


--
R. Kevin Stover
AC0H
ARRL
FISTS #11993
SKCC #215
NAQCC #3441

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[Elecraft] Looking for used KAT3 Antenna tuner...

2014-12-06 Thread Gerry Hull
Posting this for a friend of a friend in Poland,

Might be an impossible find, but he is looking for a used KAT3 internal
tuner if someone has one they wish to dispose of.

You can contact Tony, N2UN, directly at tjja...@earthlink.net

73, Gerry W1VE
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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
I tend to try to save a few bux by buying used older gear. My XYL always tells 
me that's false economy because at some point I'll want newer/better and won't 
get much out of the dented scratched boat-anchors. 

She's SO wise.

73, Mike NF4L

 On Dec 6, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Al Gulseth wb5...@centurytel.net wrote:
 
 I agree that a less expensive rig may be a better way to go for a beginning 
 ham. That being said, I'm surprised the option of a K2 hasn't been mentioned. 
 It's a nice clean easy to use layout with an excellent RX in a compact 
 package which can be obtained (especially used) without breaking the budget.
 
 73, Al
 
 On Sat December 6 2014 6:57:55 am Eric Ross wrote:
 I think it's almost better to get a much cheaper older rig first.  In my
 latest run as a ham I started with an old Kenwood TS140 for about $350.  
 It worked fine for what it could do.  It couldn't break apart pileups but
 it allowed me to make many QSOs.  However, when I got my K3--wow!  I don't
 think I could really appreciate the K3 unless I had first used a basic rig
 first.  I still get a thrill when I narrow the bandpass down to 50hz.
 
 I still have the TS140 which is perfect for using in high risk environments
 and/or lending to the next new ham.
 
 Eric
 WB7SDE
 
 On December 5, 2014 11:29:13 PM PST, Gary Gregory vk1zzg...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Don
 
 You should add that the K3 has been around for quite awhile now so it
 has
 proven not just its performance but adoption by many knowledgeable hams
 around the world and has also proven very reliable operating in less
 than
 ideal conditionsask me how i know this:-)
 
 No better advertisement than customer satisfaction i supposegrin
 Gary
 Vk1ZZ
 K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
 
 On 06/12/2014 3:48 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 Yes, simple is better, but if that new ham is interested in having a
 top-notch station, he will be well advised to consider Elecraft gear.
 
 If
 
 for no other reason than the Elecraft gear is upgradable -- one does
 
 not
 
 have to buy the whole ball of wax at the initial purchase time, it
 
 can be
 
 upgrades as operating needs arise.
 
 My typical response to new hams is that they do not yet know what
 
 they
 
 will want for whatever type of operation they might eventually become
 interested in, so yes, they should get some operating experience
 
 under
 
 their belts before deciding on which rig they would want for their
 station.  That can be simply a borrowed transceiver to get that new
 
 ham on
 
 the air.
 
 However, if the new ham does not have  locals who will loan him
 transceivers to get on the air, the KX3 offers a great receiver,
 
 and a
 
 limited number of options, which I believe will serve the novice
 
 operator
 
 well for a very long time.  The only question is do you want higher
 
 than
 
 15 watts power?  If yes, then the KXPA100 is available and if you do
 
 not
 
 have resonant antennas, the KXAT100 is a good wide range auto tuner.
 
 The K3 is also a good choice for beginning hams.  Many get hung up on
 
 what
 
 filters to purchase with the K3, but my recommendation to the new ham
 
 is to
 
 purchase no optional filters - the DSP provides gppd filtering except
 
 in
 
 crowded band conditions such a contests and extreme DXing.  As
 
 operating
 
 experience is gained, that new ham who has now been seasoned may want
 additional filters, and they are easily added to the K3.  Likewise
 
 the
 
 SubRX may be useful in some operating scenarios, but the new ham
 
 would not
 
 know the advantages provided by the SubRX until he gets his feet
 
 wet.
 
 The price of a basic K3 or a basic KX3 is within the realm of other
 
 high
 
 end transceivers on the market (and in fact may be priced less than
 
 many
 
 other comparable transceivers).
 
 Bottom line, I would not hesitate to recommend a basic K3 or KX3 to
 
 any
 
 new ham.  He will have a great receiver, and the options offered by
 Elecraft can allow that new ham to customize his station by adding
 
 options
 
 as his needs and operating experiences dictate.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 12/5/2014 10:55 PM, Doug Person via Elecraft wrote:
 I really have to agree.  Simple is better to start with.  I don't
 consider the KX3 to be simple by any means.  Having some immediate
 
 success
 
 is the best way to keep a new ham interested.  I keep several
 
 loaners
 
 around that aren't worth very much on the used market but serve very
 
 well
 
 as starter rigs.  At least twice those loaners have gone to young
 
 men with
 
 an interest that eventually led to getting licensed. (Both now
 
 Extras).
 
 On the other hand, if a new ham has an accessible Elmer and has an
 opportunity for a short course in KX3 operating AND happens to be
 
 able to
 
 erect a decent antenna, it might indeed be a fine choice.
 
 Like a lot of things in life - it all depends...
 
 73, Doug -- K0DXV
 
 On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:27:06 -0700, Don Butler n...@comcast.net
 
 wrote:
 

[Elecraft] KAF2 faulty

2014-12-06 Thread Dave Sergeant
My KAF2 has been working fine in my K2 for some years, not that I 
actually use it that much. Today I came into the shack to find no audio 
coming out of the K2 and when I tried to change the AFIL settings it 
said 'not installed'. I cannot change the RTC menu settings either.

I have moved S1 on the KAF2 to bypass it and all is working fine so it 
seems there is a fault on the KAF2. The manual suggests this is a fault 
with the microcontroller, which of course it may well be, but are there 
any other known causes? I did think of the backup battery but not sure 
if this would cause issues outside the RTC, it measures just over 3V so 
a bit down.

73 Dave G3YMC

http://davesergeant.com

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[Elecraft] KDVR3 message length variation

2014-12-06 Thread Dave
Ever since it arrived, my 5k serial number K3 has had eight voice memories
which start counting down from 9 seconds when recording

 

Ever since it arrived, my wifes earlier 3k serial number K3 has had eight
voice memories which start counting down from 14 seconds when recording

 

Today I had a play with one of the locals K3 and it also started counting
down from 14Seconds

 

According to Freds book the memories  should be 14 seconds long

 

I looked in the 2012 k3dvr manual , the only mention of the 8 message length
is 1. Messages may be at least 10 seconds long. Whatever that means when
translated!

 

There is no mention in the K3 manual of a config setting for KDVR3 message
length (like my old kenwood had). The only setting is KVR3 present/absent

 

How does one get the full 14S length on the 9S K3? (No, EEINIT does not do
it; been there , done that)

 

Dave

 

G4FRE

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3 message length variation

2014-12-06 Thread Bruce Beford
Early KDVR3 boards had a larger memory, hence longer message lengths, IIRC.
I forget when they switched to the newer, smaller memories.
Bruce, N1RX


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Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3 message length variation

2014-12-06 Thread Oliver Dröse

Hi Dave,


I looked in the 2012 k3dvr manual , the only mention of the 8 message
length is 1. Messages may be at least 10 seconds long. Whatever
that means when translated!


Exactly what is written there. ;-) 10 seconds guaranteed. If you see more, i.e. 
on older K3's, be happy, but no guarantee.
 

There is no mention in the K3 manual of a config setting for KDVR3
message length (like my old kenwood had).


That's because there is none. Message length is fixed at max. 10 seconds (or 15 
on older units). If you use less, i.e. 6 seconds then only those 6 seconds are 
played.


How does one get the full 14S length on the 9S K3? (No, EEINIT does
not do it; been there , done that)


Only by getting your hands onto an old KDVR3 module that still had the memory 
chips providing 15 seconds per memory.

73, Olli - DH8BQA

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Re: [Elecraft] Scanning and channel hopping question...

2014-12-06 Thread Bob
I have been a devoted reader of the Reflector and can say in one word my
thoughts on Wayne's explanation: IMPRESSIVE.  Makes me want to buy another
K rig.  The openness of explanation and willingness to hear the thoughts of
others like us (some profound and some not so) on the Reflector is
legendary.  Hope that this company stays around forever so my grandson can
have the chance to buy an Elecraft.

Bob, NT6Y

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

  Scanning while muted (normal scanning mode)
  allows the K3 to ignore stable carriers, unmuting
  only when interesting signals are found.

 If the signal appears to be an unmodulated carrier, i.e. with little
 amplitude variation over a period of about 1 second, then it is skipped.
 Noise can fool the algorithm sometimes, of course.

 There's actually a variable in the source code called scanWorthy that
 accrues intel about the signal :)


  ...from the K3 manual - which appears to be a close DSP cousin to the
 KX3,
  and I've also found some scattered bits about the KX3 that refers to
  stopping when a modulated signal is found.  So, what exactly triggers a
  stop scan?

 It stops on any signal with a certain S+N/N ratio, then evaluates it as
 described above.


  Is the scan signal detection
  done after signal processing like noise blanking, noise reduction, notch,
  etc?  That would make it REALLY good at scanning HF !

 Yes and yes. It's really useful for discovering signals on a dead band
 (they seldom are truly dead, you will discover).


  After scan stops on a signal, does it pause until the signal stops, or
 does
  it continue after some fixed time?

 The latter. If the signal is interesting it will unmute the receiver and
 pause a lot longer.


  I see that in VFO scan you can make it
  effectively slow or fast by changing the increment step - , but in
 channel
  hop, the increment is one hop - just not clear on the hops per second.

 I believe it's two hops per second if you use live scan (continuous, and
 unmuted) and 5 hops per second with regular scanning/hopping (muted).


  And finallyhow does the scanning stop/resume sequence work?
  When a signal is detected, the scanning pauses for some interval, then
  resumes when the signal stops? Or after a time interval if the signal is
  still there it continues scanning until it hits the active channel again?

 All of the above. It's not using AI or anything -- just simple rules --
 and it will produce consistent results most of the time.


  I've used (channel) scanning on HF quite a bit.  Very useful
  now that VFOs are rock solid and tune in milliseconds.

 As the guy who wrote the firmware, I'm happy to find that someone else
 finds it useful, *and* is curious about how it works. Thanks.

 The K2 has the same scanning feature, by the way.

 Wayne
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[Elecraft] Issue with mounting KX3 RF board Rev D

2014-12-06 Thread Marcus Busch [DL1EKC]
Hi everybody,

I'm just putting together my KX3 kit. While mounting the RF board Rev D to the
bottom cover I zipped off one of the M-F standoffs using rather little force.
As I usually have a good feeling which force may be used on these standoffs I
started investigating things a bit.

After removing the RF board I callipered the remaining gap after fully
screwing in the M-F standoff into the round standoff at the bottom cover. The
gap is 1.9 mm / 0.075 in. The RF board PCB has a thickness of 1.7 mm / 0.066
in. The lock washer was in place when measuring the gap (see photo). The pan
head screw at the bottom cover has a length of 4.8 mm / 0.0177 in which
matches the numbers in the instruction manual.

Obviously it is not possible to securely mount the PCB to the bottom cover
with the above dimensions. In my understanding those screw points are being
used as grounding points so there should be a reliable electrical connection
as well.

Did anybody here also experience this issue? How did You solve this?

I could use two split lock washers between PCB an M-F standoff, but this would
change the distance between RF board and KXAT3 board and front panel.

Or do I just have bad luck with tolerances?

Any idea or hints are highly appreciated.

VY 73

Marcus, DL1EKC

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[Elecraft] Remote K3 w K3 mini and remotehams CW sidetone

2014-12-06 Thread Bill OMara via Elecraft
I'm looking for some help in my K3 Remote tie to a K3 Mini set-up using
remotehams.  I have successful set-up both the remote K3 and the control
side K3 mini on receive and computer keyboard CW transmit.

 

I have also plugged the CW paddle into the rear of the K3 mini and it does
indeed transmit CW.  But with NO CW sidetone.

 

Does anyone have any ideas how I get CW sidetone to work with this set-up?

 

Any help would be great.

 

73 Bill  W4RM

 

Please use w...@aol.com mailto:w...@aol.com  as my primary account

 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Ubdate

2014-12-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 AFAIK, the P3 now has all the features and functions that are mentioned in 
 the advertizing and descriptions of its capabilities.

And yet, reserving as we do the right to practice random acts of wizardry, new 
things *will* materialize, a feature here, a mod there….

W



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Re: [Elecraft] Issue with mounting KX3 RF board Rev D

2014-12-06 Thread Phil Wheeler

Marcus,

I had the same experience with a stripped 
standoff. It was late on a Friday afternoon as 
luck would have it. I called Elecraft and had a 
replacement standoff the following Wed. I'm in the 
Los Angeles area, reasonably close to Elecraft, 
and with quite a few hardware stores nearby. I had 
no luck finding a replacement locally. In your 
case the wait for a replacement standoff is likely 
to be longer than mine -- and that five days was 
pretty frustrating, with the KX3 spread out in my 
operating position.


I suggested at the time that a spare standoff or 
two be included in the kit -- because it is not a 
piece of hardware anyone is likely to find in a 
local hardware store, and it is pretty easy to 
strip, as you and have demonstrated. I guess my 
recommendation fell on deaf ears :-)


Unfortunately the only way I could comment on your 
measurements and following discussion would be to 
disassemble my KX3 and do some measurements -- and 
that would risk stripping another standoff with no 
spare on hand. Perhaps someone from Elecraft can 
comment.


73, Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 9:39 AM, Marcus Busch [DL1EKC] wrote:

Hi everybody,

I'm just putting together my KX3 kit. While mounting the RF board Rev D to the
bottom cover I zipped off one of the M-F standoffs using rather little force.
As I usually have a good feeling which force may be used on these standoffs I
started investigating things a bit.

After removing the RF board I callipered the remaining gap after fully
screwing in the M-F standoff into the round standoff at the bottom cover. The
gap is 1.9 mm / 0.075 in. The RF board PCB has a thickness of 1.7 mm / 0.066
in. The lock washer was in place when measuring the gap (see photo). The pan
head screw at the bottom cover has a length of 4.8 mm / 0.0177 in which
matches the numbers in the instruction manual.

Obviously it is not possible to securely mount the PCB to the bottom cover
with the above dimensions. In my understanding those screw points are being
used as grounding points so there should be a reliable electrical connection
as well.

Did anybody here also experience this issue? How did You solve this?

I could use two split lock washers between PCB an M-F standoff, but this would
change the distance between RF board and KXAT3 board and front panel.

Or do I just have bad luck with tolerances?

Any idea or hints are highly appreciated.

VY 73

Marcus, DL1EKC


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Ubdate

2014-12-06 Thread Phil Wheeler

Yes, as if out of a hat :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 10:46 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:


AFAIK, the P3 now has all the features and functions that are mentioned in the 
advertizing and descriptions of its capabilities.

And yet, reserving as we do the right to practice random acts of wizardry, new 
things *will* materialize, a feature here, a mod there….

W


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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Mark, KE6BB via Elecraft
Don, 

$2000 to $4000???

A basic KX3 doesn't come close to $2000, and the upgrades can be added as money 
becomes available!  I sure wish the KX3 was around when I got my novice ticket!

Mark
KE6BB 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Don Butler
Sure Mark …. I’m of the opinion that QRP is NOT the best idea for a beginner 
because it can often be very frustrating without an optimal antenna (which most 
newbees do NOT have)….. so my estimate does not necessarily apply to those who 
are willing to struggle with QRP.   I don’t really know about the digital modes 
and QRP as I’m a traditional CW and SSB guy also ….so I’m really talking about 
KX3 + the 100 watt external amp, key, mic and other options …..or a K3/100 with 
most options.   My KX3 + KXPA100 and other options if purchased today would 
cost me over $2300 …. And I’m afraid to check what the two K3s would be … the 
one with subreceiver, internal tuner and several filters would be well over $4K 
…. And the other which is more barebones as a second SO2R radio would be close 
to $3K …. And I need an external 20+ amp power supply in addition to that….   
So, yes …. I’d say  $2K to $4K.

 

Don, N5LZ

From: Mark, KE6BB [mailto:rv6am...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 12:19 PM
To: Don Butler; 'Gary Gregory'; d...@w3fpr.com
Cc: 'Elecraft List'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

 

Don, 

 

$2000 to $4000???

 

A basic KX3 doesn't come close to $2000, and the upgrades can be added as money 
becomes available!  I sure wish the KX3 was around when I got my novice ticket!

 

Mark

KE6BB 

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Re: [Elecraft] Scanning and channel hopping question...

2014-12-06 Thread WD4SDC

There's actually a variable in the source code called scanWorthy that
accrues intel about the signal :)

Info at the speed of NOW - and from the guy who wrote the code, no less. 
And I agree w/ NT6Y - it is impressive.  

As the guy who wrote the firmware, I'm happy to find that someone else
finds it useful, *and* is curious about how it works. Thanks.

I think my curiosity has exceeded threshold and I'll have to become a
customer.   I'm looking forward to being a happy user of your scanWorthy
variable;)  

I think you guys have put the art back in state-of-the-art.

Steve.


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - unfinished product

2014-12-06 Thread Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft
 I am continuously amazed by the amount of stuff people want to add to 
Elecraft products,  

AMEN! 

Unlike everyone else, I don't need much.Just be sure to add the  Kitchen Sink 
 

(Tongue n Cheek )
73 Milverton / W9MMS. 

  From: Kevin Stover kevin.sto...@mediacombb.net
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - unfinished product
   
I am continuously amazed by the amount of stuff people want to add to 
Elecraft products, in this case the P3, that are done BETTER and CHEAPER 
by other things.

Want to monitor your output waveform...buy a used oscilloscope and spend 
$10 for the parts to build a sampler. Better yet buy one of the 
inexpensive  dual channel 100MHz Rigol O-scopes for less than $400 and 
you've got an output monitor AND an O-scope.

How about we just add an solid state drive and Intel i3 processor with 
appropriate motherboard with really good on board sound chip (oxymoron?) 
running Windows 10 to the P3 and you could replace your shack 
computer...kinda...sorta Of course the cost of all this convenience 
will triple or quadruple the price of the P3... Of course Elecraft would 
have to add a couple dozen personnel for the inevitable help 
desk...but it will have a real good gee whiz factor.

-- 
R. Kevin Stover
AC0H
ARRL
FISTS #11993
SKCC #215
NAQCC #3441

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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Dave Sergeant
OK, I am not a beginner, but having worked 253 DXCC with 5W and very 
modest antennas on my K2 I would not agree with that statementAnd I 
never find myself 'struggling', I just work the stuff.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 6 Dec 2014 at 12:45, Don Butler wrote:

 TMm of the opinion that QRP is NOT the best idea for a beginner because
 it can often be very frustrating without an optimal antenna 


http://davesergeant.com

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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Just for clarity, the original post asked only about the KX3 - which is 
$899.95 kit price.  That is only 20% to 45% of your stated $2K to $4K.
While the pros and cons of a new general class licensee using a 
transceiver that produces 15 watts can be debated, my take is that --
1) Many new hams *do* budget enough for the KX3/KXPA100/KXAT100 combo, 
or even a full blown K3.
2) A good receiver is more important than the amount of power, 
especially with compromise antennas.  If the antenna must be a 
compromise, why create double jeopardy by using an inferior receiver.  
If conditions are right, even a 1 watt signal can be quite effective.
3) The KX3 (and the K3) do not have to be purchased with all the options 
at once - the receiver capabilities are there in the basic models, but 
the bells and whistles can be added as the operator gains experience 
and begins to understand what additional options would be of value.


If you can't hear them, you can't work them, no matter what the power 
might be, so a good receiver is a real asset to a ham just starting out 
on the HF bands - to my mind more of an asset than higher power.  
Certainly the new op running lower power will want to stay away from 
contests and DX pileups to avoid frustration, but after gaining some 
operating experience, he can even join in those activities even with QRP 
levels.


To respond to another earlier post in this thread, yes a used K2 would 
be a good choice if it has been upgraded and properly aligned and 
calibrated.  The K2 has a fine receiver too.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/6/2014 2:45 PM, Don Butler wrote:

Sure Mark …. I’m of the opinion that QRP is NOT the best idea for a beginner 
because it can often be very frustrating without an optimal antenna (which most 
newbees do NOT have)….. so my estimate does not necessarily apply to those who 
are willing to struggle with QRP.   I don’t really know about the digital modes 
and QRP as I’m a traditional CW and SSB guy also ….so I’m really talking about 
KX3 + the 100 watt external amp, key, mic and other options …..or a K3/100 with 
most options.   My KX3 + KXPA100 and other options if purchased today would 
cost me over $2300 ….


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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Don Butler
Hi Elecrafters...

This is becoming redundant so will be my final post on this thread (I
apologize for the consumed bandwidth).   Suffice to say that each of us will
develop an opinion of our own on this subject and it will likely differ from
that of many others, and that should be just fine.   

My shack happens to be equipped with several pieces of Elecraft gear, and I
am very, very pleased with every single item.   Regarding prices . yes, they
are rather expensive, but I'm happy and I think the prices I paid were fair.
My whole point to these posts has been that, even though we're talking about
excellent equipment here, many beginning hams simply do not have the means
to be able to buy these high end transceivers when they're trying to put
their first station together.

73,

Don, N5LZ

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Sergeant
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:50 PM
To: 'Elecraft List'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

OK, I am not a beginner, but having worked 253 DXCC with 5W and very modest
antennas on my K2 I would not agree with that statementAnd I never find
myself 'struggling', I just work the stuff.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 6 Dec 2014 at 12:45, Don Butler wrote:

 TMm of the opinion that QRP is NOT the best idea for a beginner 
 because it can often be very frustrating without an optimal antenna


http://davesergeant.com

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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Nick Kemp
Something new hams wrestle with is ... how much do I want to spend given 
that I don't know where this will take me or if I'll even stick with 
it?  So the entry point price makes a difference.  So does 
resell-ability in case I want out.


The question of QRP operation is pertinent but not the whole discussion.

Antennas are very important but any antenna a new ham puts up will 
likely be the same regardless of what unit they are operating from and 
as such the focus goes back to the equipment usability.


A problem with the question ... Is the KX3 (/or any other model/) a good 
choice for a new General (/ham/)? ... is that it is _/*too*/_ 
broad.  It is kinda like asking if someone is pretty/handsome.  It all 
depends on the observer. For either question, there is no one answer!


Relative to _usability _for a new ham (as opposed to flat out comparing 
equipment spec) mode of operation makes a huge difference to the question:


If you are operating from home base (not mobile or portable) then the 
options increase and are different than the next modes. Now there are 
more options relative to used, new and power.


If you are operating from vehicle mobile then the options change as well.

If the ham wants portable (not mobile) then the options are severely 
reduced.  For example, what if the final three are the 817ND, 857D and 
the KX3.  Now the applicability to a new ham questions include:

- Which of the three is a better new ham choice without any options?
- If I add a $150 amp (not Elecraft) to the 817ND or the KX3 now how 
does it compare to the 857D (given that final power out is not 
identical) as it applies to usability by a new ham
- If I add a antenna tuner to the 817ND, 857D  KX3 and the $150 power 
amp, how do they compare relative to usability to a new ham.
- If I take out the 817  857 then what units should be considered in 
addition to the KX3?  And how does operation compare relative to a new ham.


- What if the new ham only is interested in CW?  Or Digital?  Now is the 
KX3 a good choice?


If you follow my drift, the permutations and combinations of the 
question explode.  And note that I'm not trying to explode the 
discussion/question:-)


Here are some variations on the original KX3 question:
For fixed base, mobile, portable, Other?:
- Where/why is the KX3 a good choice for a new ham?
- Where/why is the KX3 a bad choice for a new ham?
- What things/actions/options/etc can make a new ham successful with a KX3?

Nick
N1KMP




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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Phil Wheeler
I agree, NIck. In past years I made a point of 
giving older rigs away to a new ham so they can 
start in the hobby without committing funds. 
That's where early Kenwoods (TS-520S, TS-440SAT) 
went and where my TS-570DG will go as soon as I 
find a local ham with interest.


New hams seldom know what areas of this hobby will 
grab them, nor if they'll stay in the hobby long 
term. Assuming they are of limited means, spending 
$1K or more may not be a wise starting point if 
they have other viable options.


Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 1:50 PM, Nick Kemp wrote:
Something new hams wrestle with is ... how much 
do I want to spend given that I don't know where 
this will take me or if I'll even stick with 
it?  So the entry point price makes a 
difference.  So does resell-ability in case I 
want out.


The question of QRP operation is pertinent but 
not the whole discussion. .


Nick
N1KMP


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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Ray Sills
While I think an Elecraft rig is not a bad choice for a committed ham,  
or even an unsure newbie (because they retain value in the second hand  
market), this is a situation where a local club might help.   
Sometimes, hams will leave their radio estate to the club, for the  
purpose of providing a loaner rig for new hams or for someone whose  
rig went poof.  It might be worth checking.  And, some clubs have a  
fully functioning station which is available for members to use.  My  
local club has dues of $20 a year... that's pretty cheap to get to use  
a raft of nice ham gear, including the nicely built antenna systems.


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On Dec 6, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

I agree, NIck. In past years I made a point of giving older rigs  
away to a new ham so they can start in the hobby without committing  
funds. That's where early Kenwoods (TS-520S, TS-440SAT) went and  
where my TS-570DG will go as soon as I find a local ham with interest.


New hams seldom know what areas of this hobby will grab them, nor if  
they'll stay in the hobby long term. Assuming they are of limited  
means, spending $1K or more may not be a wise starting point if they  
have other viable options.


Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 1:50 PM, Nick Kemp wrote:
Something new hams wrestle with is ... how much do I want to spend  
given that I don't know where this will take me or if I'll even  
stick with it?  So the entry point price makes a difference.  So  
does resell-ability in case I want out.


The question of QRP operation is pertinent but not the whole  
discussion. .


Nick
N1KMP


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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Myron WVØH
And that is a great way to go. However, the eye candy of a the newer rigs is a 
big appeal to the uniformed and will likely be biased from then on and that's 
all they want. Until the day (maybe it never comes) they realize that their rig 
just doesn't seem to perform like someone else's, (ignoring the antenna system 
for the moment). Or they read on a list somewhere that their rig doesn't 
perform like the Humperdink 8000, then they will wish they had waited. Either 
way a good way to go, for sure. Visit someone's shack and even multiple 
stations to see what they like. Betcha it will be the eye candy rigs.

Myron WVØH
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 On Dec 6, 2014, at 3:07 PM, Ray Sills raysil...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 And, some clubs have a fully functioning station which is available for 
 members to use
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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Jim Brown
Respectfully, 253 QRP DXCC is FAR easier from anywhere around the 
northern Atlantic and Western EU than from many other parts of the 
world.  W6, for example. :)


On Sat,12/6/2014 12:49 PM, Dave Sergeant wrote:

but having worked 253 DXCC with 5W and very modest antennas on my K2 I would 
not agree with that statementAnd I never find myself 'struggling', I just 
work the stuff.

73 Dave G3YMC



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Re: [Elecraft] Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Rich
I bought my K3 and KX3 in stages because I could not afford all at 
once.  I owned an IC-718, IC-706mkII and an IC-746 (all previously used) 
as first radios.  I decided to buy the K3 because of my first experience 
with it.  I got a late night shift during a contest and suddenly had to 
figure it out with no introduction, and was up and running shortly.  No 
worries.  I did have guest op experience with Yaesu, Kenwood, TenTec and 
Icom radios.  I found the K3 easy to set up and adjust. If you can 
afford one, it will save you much pain and frustration.  On the other 
hand, starting with a less expensive radio will teach life lessons 
regarding the value of a well designed radio system.


For a new ham that has some interest in contesting and dxing with CW, 
the feature that would sell me is APF:

http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/tips/Using%20APF%20for%20weak%20signal%20CW%20work%20the%20K3%20and%20KX3.pdf

APF makes learning CW much more comfortable than I expected.  I am 
unaware of a similar feature on other radios, but may just be ignorant.  
It is critical for my hearing weak signals, but also critical for 
hearing good signals in bad conditions.


There are many great features, but for someone learning CW, APF is 
wonderful.


Richard Hill
KG6JOT, AE6JW, NU6T (Tech to Extra in 2002)

On 12/6/2014 1:50 PM, Nick Kemp wrote:
Something new hams wrestle with is ... how much do I want to spend 
given that I don't know where this will take me or if I'll even stick 
with it?  So the entry point price makes a difference.  So does 
resell-ability in case I want out.


The question of QRP operation is pertinent but not the whole discussion.

Antennas are very important but any antenna a new ham puts up will 
likely be the same regardless of what unit they are operating from and 
as such the focus goes back to the equipment usability.


A problem with the question ... Is the KX3 (/or any other model/) a 
good choice for a new General (/ham/)? ... is that it is _/*too*/_ 
broad.  It is kinda like asking if someone is pretty/handsome.  It all 
depends on the observer. For either question, there is no one answer!


Relative to _usability _for a new ham (as opposed to flat out 
comparing equipment spec) mode of operation makes a huge difference to 
the question:


If you are operating from home base (not mobile or portable) then the 
options increase and are different than the next modes. Now there are 
more options relative to used, new and power.


If you are operating from vehicle mobile then the options change as well.

If the ham wants portable (not mobile) then the options are severely 
reduced.  For example, what if the final three are the 817ND, 857D and 
the KX3.  Now the applicability to a new ham questions include:

- Which of the three is a better new ham choice without any options?
- If I add a $150 amp (not Elecraft) to the 817ND or the KX3 now how 
does it compare to the 857D (given that final power out is not 
identical) as it applies to usability by a new ham
- If I add a antenna tuner to the 817ND, 857D  KX3 and the $150 power 
amp, how do they compare relative to usability to a new ham.
- If I take out the 817  857 then what units should be considered in 
addition to the KX3?  And how does operation compare relative to a new 
ham.


- What if the new ham only is interested in CW?  Or Digital?  Now is 
the KX3 a good choice?


If you follow my drift, the permutations and combinations of the 
question explode.  And note that I'm not trying to explode the 
discussion/question:-)


Here are some variations on the original KX3 question:
For fixed base, mobile, portable, Other?:
- Where/why is the KX3 a good choice for a new ham?
- Where/why is the KX3 a bad choice for a new ham?
- What things/actions/options/etc can make a new ham successful with a 
KX3?


Nick
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Re: [Elecraft] Sub RX Audio/SO2V/N!MM

2014-12-06 Thread Rick Tavan
Yes, sigh. Certain operations cause K3 Remote to revert to the physical setting 
of the remote K3 gain controls. Elecraft are aware of the problem but I haven't 
heard anything about a fix . A workaround is to leave the AF Gain control at a 
normal listening level when you depart the remote station.

Rick N6XI

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 I just tried N1MM in SO2V mode using a K3 with Sub Receiver.   Everything 
 works fine.  
 
 Now introduce RemoteRig.  Connected to the remote K3 a thousand miles away, 
 when I press Control + Right Arrow Button to listen and move focus to VFO 
 B/Sub Receiver there is no audio from the sub receiver unless you move the 
 sub receiver audio gain knob.  All you have to do is slightly move it and it 
 comes alive.  
 
 Wondering whether anyone has had this situation or knows what to try in order 
 to fix it?
 
 Thanks...Stan, K5GO
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Ubdate

2014-12-06 Thread Ian White
Don W3FPR wrote:


A parallel example is my requests that the K2/K3/KX3 keying include
Ultimatic mode.  I have been told in the past that it is being
considered, but it has not yet materialized.  I do not think of that as
making the K3 internal keyer incomplete - only that other things need
attention from the limited Elecraft engineering staff than my request
for Ultimatic keying.


Sorry, but I am no longer feeling so generous about and further delays
to features that have been waiting on the list for 7 years now. 

Given that the K3 aims to be the world's best CW transceiver,
incomplete seems a very appropriate word for an internal keyer that
offers fewer alternative timing options than a $6 WinKey. For anyone who
isn't already attuned to Curtis A or Curtis B modes, the K3's internal
keyer is of little use. The obvious remedy is to plug in a separate
keyer - and of course many people do, although that reduces the
much-vaunted portability of the K3 (and the KX3, even more so). 

But the internal keyer remains mandatory for paddle-sent RTTY or PSK.
Normal datamode keyboard speeds are 40-50wpm, so most paddle users will
try to send as close as possible to their personal top speed. This is
where the internal keyer needs to offer the maximum possible support for
alternative timing modes... and that support isn't there. 

User support has to start inside the transceiver itself, with the
facilities that it provides for everyday use. From both points of view -
the facilities that one expects in a premium transceiver, and fact that
the internal keyer is sometimes mandatory - the internal keyer really
does need attention. 


73 from Ian GM3SEK


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - unfinished product

2014-12-06 Thread XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft
If the P3 is so great as is, I have an almost new one for sale on QRZ. 
Without the NB for the SVGA board it not anywhere near good as other methods
of using a panadapter.  So I went another direction.

Keith, XE3/K5ENS



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Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3 message length variation

2014-12-06 Thread XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft
I have a K3 that is less than 6 months old (SN 82XX)  that has 14 seconds in
each of the 8 banks.

Keith, XE3/K5ENS



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Re: [Elecraft] For Sale Elecraft k3 P3 AND Icom IC-7600

2014-12-06 Thread W9AKX
I'm very interested I the K3/P3. I'm a neighbor in Williston on Levy St.
Please call me at 352.528.0992. Bruce W9AKX. 



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[Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Frank Krozel
Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the items I 
will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and the headphone 
jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures and cannot 
find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that in case 
I need some additional connectors.
(I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
Frank KG9H


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Re: [Elecraft] For Sale Elecraft k3 P3 AND Icom IC-7600

2014-12-06 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH

Noise on 160 Meters

It may have been there for a while, but last night and tonight, I just 
noticed a strange sweeping/buzzing noise on 160M, centered around 1915 kHz. 
It's definitely coming from outside my immediate location because it I just 
got off 1913 where it was reported to be S-9 in Wisconsin, Michigan  
Tennessee.  Looking at the panadapter  waterfall display on the Flex, it's 
about 30 kHz wide with a rep rate of about 3 CPS.  It was S-9 late last 
night and early this morning, but barely audible at 0930 so I suspect it is 
propagation limited.


The best way to listen is in AM mode, tuned to 1915 kHz in the evening.

Anybody hear this at your location?

73, Charlie k3ICH


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Re: [Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Phil Wheeler
Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig you 
mean) the info you need is in this document 
ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near the end 
is the info for configuring it for various mics.


When you said Mine was inoperative when I got it 
used do you mean on SSB or completely?  Does it 
have the KSB2 option installed?


73, Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:

Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the items I 
will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and the headphone 
jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures and cannot 
find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that in case 
I need some additional connectors.
(I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
Frank KG9H


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Re: [Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Frank Krozel
All I “see” are pc holes that are unpopulated.  I am thinking there is a header 
missing or similar.
I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
Frank'
On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig you mean) the info you need is in 
 this document ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
 Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near the end is the info for 
 configuring it for various mics.
 
 When you said Mine was inoperative when I got it used do you mean on SSB or 
 completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option installed?
 
 73, Phil W7OX
 
 On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the items I 
 will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and the headphone 
 jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
 Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures and 
 cannot find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
 I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that in 
 case I need some additional connectors.
 (I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
 Frank KG9H
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] Re: Is the KX3 a good choice for a new General?

2014-12-06 Thread Tom McCulloch

Just my two cents before Eric shuts this thread down:

I haven't been following this thread too closely so I'll assume you're 
talking about a base station.   I'd say to put your money in the best 
and highest antenna you can find and erect, this is by far the most 
important component of a base station.  Whatever funds you have left in 
your budget, put towards a rig with a good receiver (K3 or K2 are 
excellent).


Tom, wb2qdg
K2 #1103



On 12/6/2014 4:50 PM, Nick Kemp wrote:
Something new hams wrestle with is ... how much do I want to spend 
given that I don't know where this will take me or if I'll even stick 
with it?  So the entry point price makes a difference.  So does 
resell-ability in case I want out.


The question of QRP operation is pertinent but not the whole discussion.

Antennas are very important but any antenna a new ham puts up will 
likely be the same regardless of what unit they are operating from and 
as such the focus goes back to the equipment usability.


A problem with the question ... Is the KX3 (/or any other model/) a 
good choice for a new General (/ham/)? ... is that it is _/*too*/_ 
broad.  It is kinda like asking if someone is pretty/handsome.  It all 
depends on the observer. For either question, there is no one answer!


Relative to _usability _for a new ham (as opposed to flat out 
comparing equipment spec) mode of operation makes a huge difference to 
the question:


If you are operating from home base (not mobile or portable) then the 
options increase and are different than the next modes. Now there are 
more options relative to used, new and power.


If you are operating from vehicle mobile then the options change as well.

If the ham wants portable (not mobile) then the options are severely 
reduced.  For example, what if the final three are the 817ND, 857D and 
the KX3.  Now the applicability to a new ham questions include:

- Which of the three is a better new ham choice without any options?
- If I add a $150 amp (not Elecraft) to the 817ND or the KX3 now how 
does it compare to the 857D (given that final power out is not 
identical) as it applies to usability by a new ham
- If I add a antenna tuner to the 817ND, 857D  KX3 and the $150 power 
amp, how do they compare relative to usability to a new ham.
- If I take out the 817  857 then what units should be considered in 
addition to the KX3?  And how does operation compare relative to a new 
ham.


- What if the new ham only is interested in CW?  Or Digital?  Now is 
the KX3 a good choice?


If you follow my drift, the permutations and combinations of the 
question explode.  And note that I'm not trying to explode the 
discussion/question:-)


Here are some variations on the original KX3 question:
For fixed base, mobile, portable, Other?:
- Where/why is the KX3 a good choice for a new ham?
- Where/why is the KX3 a bad choice for a new ham?
- What things/actions/options/etc can make a new ham successful with a 
KX3?


Nick
N1KMP




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Re: [Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Might it be one of these?

http://www.unpcbs.com/adaptor/

Dick, K6KR


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Krozel
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 5:36 PM
To: Phil Wheeler
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

All I see are pc holes that are unpopulated.  I am thinking there is a
header missing or similar.
I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
Frank'
On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig you mean) the info you need 
 is in this document ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER Assembly and Operating
Instructions. Near the end is the info for configuring it for various mics.
 
 When you said Mine was inoperative when I got it used do you mean on SSB
or completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option installed?
 
 73, Phil W7OX
 
 On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the items
I will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and the headphone
jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
 Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures and
cannot find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
 I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that in
case I need some additional connectors.
 (I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!) Frank KG9H
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Matt VK2RQ
The “missing” PCB header is supplied with the KSB2 SSB option module. If you 
order a MH2 microphone, you’ll get a packet of PC-style jumpers to bridge the 
header. Otherwise, if you use a different type of microphone, you need to take 
care for the jumping yourself. The “UNPCB” guy sells a nice jumpering PCB that 
allows you to easily change the jumper setup for a range of standard mics, 
suggest you look it up below (look for “Internal Mic Adaptor”):
http://www.unpcbs.com/ http://www.unpcbs.com/


73, Matt VK2RQ.

 On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:36 pm, Frank Krozel kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All I “see” are pc holes that are unpopulated.  I am thinking there is a 
 header missing or similar.
 I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
 Frank'
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig you mean) the info you need is in 
 this document ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
 Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near the end is the info for 
 configuring it for various mics.
 
 When you said Mine was inoperative when I got it used do you mean on SSB 
 or completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option installed?
 
 73, Phil W7OX
 
 On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the items I 
 will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and the headphone 
 jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
 Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures and 
 cannot find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
 I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that in 
 case I need some additional connectors.
 (I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
 Frank KG9H
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Frank Krozel
So guess replacing my “headphone jack” will be a part of this process as well.
Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Matt VK2RQ matt.vk...@gmail.com wrote:

 The “missing” PCB header is supplied with the KSB2 SSB option module. If you 
 order a MH2 microphone, you’ll get a packet of PC-style jumpers to bridge the 
 header. Otherwise, if you use a different type of microphone, you need to 
 take care for the jumping yourself. The “UNPCB” guy sells a nice jumpering 
 PCB that allows you to easily change the jumper setup for a range of standard 
 mics, suggest you look it up below (look for “Internal Mic Adaptor”):
 http://www.unpcbs.com/
 
 
 73, Matt VK2RQ.
 
 On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:36 pm, Frank Krozel kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All I “see” are pc holes that are unpopulated.  I am thinking there is a 
 header missing or similar.
 I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
 Frank'
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig you mean) the info you need is in 
 this document ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
 Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near the end is the info for 
 configuring it for various mics.
 
 When you said Mine was inoperative when I got it used do you mean on SSB 
 or completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option installed?
 
 73, Phil W7OX
 
 On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the items 
 I will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and the 
 headphone jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
 Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures and 
 cannot find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
 I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that in 
 case I need some additional connectors.
 (I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
 Frank KG9H
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Phil Wheeler
The headphone jack should be unrelated to the mic 
config header and the KSB2 board. Why do you think 
you need a new headphone jack, Frank?


Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:47 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
So guess replacing my “headphone jack” will be a 
part of this process as well.

Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Matt VK2RQ 
matt.vk...@gmail.com 
mailto:matt.vk...@gmail.com wrote:


The “missing” PCB header is supplied with the 
KSB2 SSB option module. If you order a MH2 
microphone, you’ll get a packet of PC-style 
jumpers to bridge the header. Otherwise, if you 
use a different type of microphone, you need to 
take care for the jumping yourself. The “UNPCB” 
guy sells a nice jumpering PCB that allows you 
to easily change the jumper setup for a range 
of standard mics, suggest you look it up below 
(look for “Internal Mic Adaptor”):

http://www.unpcbs.com/


73, Matt VK2RQ.

On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:36 pm, Frank Krozel 
kg9hfr...@gmail.com 
mailto:kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:


All I “see” are pc holes that are unpopulated. 
 I am thinking there is a header missing or 
similar.

I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
Frank'
On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler 
w...@socal.rr.com mailto:w...@socal.rr.com 
wrote:


Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig you 
mean) the info you need is in this document 
ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near 
the end is the info for configuring it for 
various mics.


When you said Mine was inoperative when I 
got it used do you mean on SSB or 
completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option 
installed?


73, Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
Guys, I am about ready to place an order to 
Elecraft and one of the items I will be 
needing are a few of the connectors like P3, 
P6, and the headphone jack.  Mine was 
inoperative when I got it used..
Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been 
staring at the pictures and cannot find the 
manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
I guess it is on the control panel but 
cannot find any picture of that in case I 
need some additional connectors.

(I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
Frank KG9H


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Re: [Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Frank Krozel
Oh, it was broken and sold that way to me.. In order to hear “something” out of 
the speaker, you have to insert a headphone into the hole about 1/2 way lol
Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 The headphone jack should be unrelated to the mic config header and the KSB2 
 board. Why do you think you need a new headphone jack, Frank?
 
 Phil W7OX
 
 On 12/6/14 5:47 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 So guess replacing my “headphone jack” will be a part of this process as 
 well.
 Frank
 
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Matt VK2RQ matt.vk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The “missing” PCB header is supplied with the KSB2 SSB option module. If 
 you order a MH2 microphone, you’ll get a packet of PC-style jumpers to 
 bridge the header. Otherwise, if you use a different type of microphone, 
 you need to take care for the jumping yourself. The “UNPCB” guy sells a 
 nice jumpering PCB that allows you to easily change the jumper setup for a 
 range of standard mics, suggest you look it up below (look for “Internal 
 Mic Adaptor”):
 http://www.unpcbs.com/
 
 
 73, Matt VK2RQ.
 
 On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:36 pm, Frank Krozel kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All I “see” are pc holes that are unpopulated.  I am thinking there is a 
 header missing or similar.
 I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
 Frank'
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig you mean) the info you need is 
 in this document ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
 Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near the end is the info for 
 configuring it for various mics.
 
 When you said Mine was inoperative when I got it used do you mean on 
 SSB or completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option installed?
 
 73, Phil W7OX
 
 On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the 
 items I will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and the 
 headphone jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
 Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures and 
 cannot find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
 I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that 
 in case I need some additional connectors.
 (I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
 Frank KG9H
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Phil Wheeler

Got it.

BTW this item

http://www.unpcbs.com/adaptor/

mentioned by Dick in an earlier post is a 3rd part K2 mod which is very nice to 
have. It lets you change the mic configuration without a major disassembly of 
the K2. Only one side panel needs removing once this mod is in place.

Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:52 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
Oh, it was broken and sold that way to me.. In 
order to hear “something” out of the speaker, 
you have to insert a headphone into the hole 
about 1/2 way lol

Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Phil Wheeler 
w...@socal.rr.com mailto:w...@socal.rr.com 
wrote:


The headphone jack should be unrelated to the 
mic config header and the KSB2 board. Why do 
you think you need a new headphone jack, Frank?


Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:47 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
So guess replacing my “headphone jack” will be 
a part of this process as well.

Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Matt VK2RQ 
matt.vk...@gmail.com 
mailto:matt.vk...@gmail.com wrote:


The “missing” PCB header is supplied with the 
KSB2 SSB option module. If you order a MH2 
microphone, you’ll get a packet of PC-style 
jumpers to bridge the header. Otherwise, if 
you use a different type of microphone, you 
need to take care for the jumping yourself. 
The “UNPCB” guy sells a nice jumpering PCB 
that allows you to easily change the jumper 
setup for a range of standard mics, suggest 
you look it up below (look for “Internal Mic 
Adaptor”):

http://www.unpcbs.com/


73, Matt VK2RQ.

On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:36 pm, Frank Krozel 
kg9hfr...@gmail.com 
mailto:kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:


All I “see” are pc holes that are 
unpopulated.  I am thinking there is a 
header missing or similar.

I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
Frank'
On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler 
w...@socal.rr.com 
mailto:w...@socal.rr.com wrote:


Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig 
you mean) the info you need is in this 
document ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near 
the end is the info for configuring it for 
various mics.


When you said Mine was inoperative when I 
got it used do you mean on SSB or 
completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option 
installed?


73, Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
Guys, I am about ready to place an order 
to Elecraft and one of the items I will be 
needing are a few of the connectors like 
P3, P6, and the headphone jack.  Mine was 
inoperative when I got it used..
Where is the jumper block for the mic? 
 Been staring at the pictures and cannot 
find the manual where it shows where the 
jumper block is.
I guess it is on the control panel but 
cannot find any picture of that in case I 
need some additional connectors.
(I got it used and it is in perfect 
condition!!)

Frank KG9H






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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] Re: Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Tom McCulloch
I believe a lot of folks have had a problem with that jack.  It sounds 
(no pun ) like you may need a replacement

Tom, wb2qdg

K2 1103


On 12/6/2014 8:52 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:

Oh, it was broken and sold that way to me.. In order to hear “something” out of 
the speaker, you have to insert a headphone into the hole about 1/2 way lol
Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:


The headphone jack should be unrelated to the mic config header and the KSB2 
board. Why do you think you need a new headphone jack, Frank?

Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:47 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:

So guess replacing my “headphone jack” will be a part of this process as well.
Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Matt VK2RQ matt.vk...@gmail.com wrote:


The “missing” PCB header is supplied with the KSB2 SSB option module. If you 
order a MH2 microphone, you’ll get a packet of PC-style jumpers to bridge the 
header. Otherwise, if you use a different type of microphone, you need to take 
care for the jumping yourself. The “UNPCB” guy sells a nice jumpering PCB that 
allows you to easily change the jumper setup for a range of standard mics, 
suggest you look it up below (look for “Internal Mic Adaptor”):
http://www.unpcbs.com/


73, Matt VK2RQ.


On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:36 pm, Frank Krozel kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:

All I “see” are pc holes that are unpopulated.  I am thinking there is a header 
missing or similar.
I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
Frank'
On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:


Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig you mean) the info you need is in this 
document ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near the end is the info for configuring 
it for various mics.

When you said Mine was inoperative when I got it used do you mean on SSB or 
completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option installed?

73, Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:

Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the items I 
will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and the headphone 
jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures and cannot 
find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that in case 
I need some additional connectors.
(I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
Frank KG9H

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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] Re: Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Frank Krozel
I did hear this was problematic but.. I have had 4 K2’s never had that problem. 
 Maybe some folks use a 1/4” to 1/8” adapter and the darn thing hangs out too 
far.
Oh well, my parts list quest moves forward.  
Things to do over the holiday to keep out of the way of the wife..
Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Tom McCulloch th...@att.net wrote:

 I believe a lot of folks have had a problem with that jack.  It sounds (no 
 pun ) like you may need a replacement
 Tom, wb2qdg
 
 K2 1103
 
 
 On 12/6/2014 8:52 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 Oh, it was broken and sold that way to me.. In order to hear “something” out 
 of the speaker, you have to insert a headphone into the hole about 1/2 way 
 lol
 Frank
 
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 The headphone jack should be unrelated to the mic config header and the 
 KSB2 board. Why do you think you need a new headphone jack, Frank?
 
 Phil W7OX
 
 On 12/6/14 5:47 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 So guess replacing my “headphone jack” will be a part of this process as 
 well.
 Frank
 
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Matt VK2RQ matt.vk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The “missing” PCB header is supplied with the KSB2 SSB option module. If 
 you order a MH2 microphone, you’ll get a packet of PC-style jumpers to 
 bridge the header. Otherwise, if you use a different type of microphone, 
 you need to take care for the jumping yourself. The “UNPCB” guy sells a 
 nice jumpering PCB that allows you to easily change the jumper setup for 
 a range of standard mics, suggest you look it up below (look for 
 “Internal Mic Adaptor”):
 http://www.unpcbs.com/
 
 
 73, Matt VK2RQ.
 
 On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:36 pm, Frank Krozel kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All I “see” are pc holes that are unpopulated.  I am thinking there is a 
 header missing or similar.
 I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
 Frank'
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig you mean) the info you need 
 is in this document ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
 Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near the end is the info for 
 configuring it for various mics.
 
 When you said Mine was inoperative when I got it used do you mean on 
 SSB or completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option installed?
 
 73, Phil W7OX
 
 On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the 
 items I will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and 
 the headphone jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
 Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures 
 and cannot find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
 I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that 
 in case I need some additional connectors.
 (I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
 Frank KG9H
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Re: [Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Matt VK2RQ
When you place your order, mention in the comments section that you want a 
headphone jack or two (email parts at elecraft dot com to get the part 
number/pricing). When I bought my K2 I ordered an extra headphone jack as a 
spare because I heard they can wear out after some time.

73,
Matt VK2RQ

 On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:52 pm, Frank Krozel kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh, it was broken and sold that way to me.. In order to hear “something” out 
 of the speaker, you have to insert a headphone into the hole about 1/2 way lol
 Frank
 
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 The headphone jack should be unrelated to the mic config header and the KSB2 
 board. Why do you think you need a new headphone jack, Frank?
 
 Phil W7OX
 
 On 12/6/14 5:47 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 So guess replacing my “headphone jack” will be a part of this process as 
 well.
 Frank
 
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Matt VK2RQ matt.vk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The “missing” PCB header is supplied with the KSB2 SSB option module. If 
 you order a MH2 microphone, you’ll get a packet of PC-style jumpers to 
 bridge the header. Otherwise, if you use a different type of microphone, 
 you need to take care for the jumping yourself. The “UNPCB” guy sells a 
 nice jumpering PCB that allows you to easily change the jumper setup for a 
 range of standard mics, suggest you look it up below (look for “Internal 
 Mic Adaptor”):
 http://www.unpcbs.com/
 
 
 73, Matt VK2RQ.
 
 On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:36 pm, Frank Krozel kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All I “see” are pc holes that are unpopulated.  I am thinking there is a 
 header missing or similar.
 I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
 Frank'
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig you mean) the info you need is 
 in this document ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
 Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near the end is the info for 
 configuring it for various mics.
 
 When you said Mine was inoperative when I got it used do you mean on 
 SSB or completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option installed?
 
 73, Phil W7OX
 
 On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the 
 items I will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and 
 the headphone jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
 Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures 
 and cannot find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
 I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that 
 in case I need some additional connectors.
 (I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
 Frank KG9H
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] Re: Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Phil Wheeler
I'm surprised to hear that, Tom. Mine's been in 
service since July 1999 (the headphone jack, not 
the KSB2!) and no problems. Of course, with a K3 
and KX3 the K2 doesn't get much use these days.


Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:57 PM, Tom McCulloch wrote:
I believe a lot of folks have had a problem with 
that jack.  It sounds (no pun ) like you may 
need a replacement

Tom, wb2qdg

K2 1103


On 12/6/2014 8:52 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
Oh, it was broken and sold that way to me.. In 
order to hear “something” out of the speaker, 
you have to insert a headphone into the hole 
about 1/2 way lol

Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Phil Wheeler 
w...@socal.rr.com wrote:


The headphone jack should be unrelated to the 
mic config header and the KSB2 board. Why do 
you think you need a new headphone jack, Frank?


Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:47 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
So guess replacing my “headphone jack” will 
be a part of this process as well.

Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Matt VK2RQ 
matt.vk...@gmail.com wrote:


The “missing” PCB header is supplied with 
the KSB2 SSB option module. If you order a 
MH2 microphone, you’ll get a packet of 
PC-style jumpers to bridge the header. 
Otherwise, if you use a different type of 
microphone, you need to take care for the 
jumping yourself. The “UNPCB” guy sells a 
nice jumpering PCB that allows you to easily 
change the jumper setup for a range of 
standard mics, suggest you look it up below 
(look for “Internal Mic Adaptor”):

http://www.unpcbs.com/


73, Matt VK2RQ.

On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:36 pm, Frank Krozel 
kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:


All I “see” are pc holes that are 
unpopulated.  I am thinking there is a 
header missing or similar.

I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
Frank'
On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler 
w...@socal.rr.com wrote:


Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig 
you mean) the info you need is in this 
document ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near 
the end is the info for configuring it for 
various mics.


When you said Mine was inoperative when I 
got it used do you mean on SSB or 
completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option 
installed?


73, Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
Guys, I am about ready to place an order 
to Elecraft and one of the items I will 
be needing are a few of the connectors 
like P3, P6, and the headphone jack.  
Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
Where is the jumper block for the mic?  
Been staring at the pictures and cannot 
find the manual where it shows where the 
jumper block is.
I guess it is on the control panel but 
cannot find any picture of that in case I 
need some additional connectors.
(I got it used and it is in perfect 
condition!!)

Frank KG9H


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[Elecraft] K2 speaker jack

2014-12-06 Thread Ken G Kopp
I suggest you order several to have on hand.   Their failure rate is high.

73

Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Frank Krozel
Yep, I believe it is p/n  620028
Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 8:01 PM, Matt VK2RQ matt.vk...@gmail.com wrote:

 When you place your order, mention in the comments section that you want a 
 headphone jack or two (email parts at elecraft dot com to get the part 
 number/pricing). When I bought my K2 I ordered an extra headphone jack as a 
 spare because I heard they can wear out after some time.
 
 73,
 Matt VK2RQ
 
 On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:52 pm, Frank Krozel kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh, it was broken and sold that way to me.. In order to hear “something” out 
 of the speaker, you have to insert a headphone into the hole about 1/2 way 
 lol
 Frank
 
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 The headphone jack should be unrelated to the mic config header and the 
 KSB2 board. Why do you think you need a new headphone jack, Frank?
 
 Phil W7OX
 
 On 12/6/14 5:47 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 So guess replacing my “headphone jack” will be a part of this process as 
 well.
 Frank
 
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Matt VK2RQ matt.vk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The “missing” PCB header is supplied with the KSB2 SSB option module. If 
 you order a MH2 microphone, you’ll get a packet of PC-style jumpers to 
 bridge the header. Otherwise, if you use a different type of microphone, 
 you need to take care for the jumping yourself. The “UNPCB” guy sells a 
 nice jumpering PCB that allows you to easily change the jumper setup for 
 a range of standard mics, suggest you look it up below (look for 
 “Internal Mic Adaptor”):
 http://www.unpcbs.com/
 
 
 73, Matt VK2RQ.
 
 On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:36 pm, Frank Krozel kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All I “see” are pc holes that are unpopulated.  I am thinking there is a 
 header missing or similar.
 I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
 Frank'
 On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig you mean) the info you need 
 is in this document ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
 Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near the end is the info for 
 configuring it for various mics.
 
 When you said Mine was inoperative when I got it used do you mean on 
 SSB or completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option installed?
 
 73, Phil W7OX
 
 On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:
 Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the 
 items I will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and 
 the headphone jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
 Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures 
 and cannot find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
 I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that 
 in case I need some additional connectors.
 (I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
 Frank KG9H
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] Re: Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Phil Wheeler
Re keep out of the way of the wife: Always a 
wise course to follow, Frank!


Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 6:01 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:

I did hear this was problematic but.. I have had 4 K2’s never had that problem. 
 Maybe some folks use a 1/4” to 1/8” adapter and the darn thing hangs out too 
far.
Oh well, my parts list quest moves forward.
Things to do over the holiday to keep out of the way of the wife..
Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Tom McCulloch th...@att.net wrote:


I believe a lot of folks have had a problem with that jack.  It sounds (no pun 
) like you may need a replacement
Tom, wb2qdg

K2 1103


On 12/6/2014 8:52 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:

Oh, it was broken and sold that way to me.. In order to hear “something” out of 
the speaker, you have to insert a headphone into the hole about 1/2 way lol
Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:49 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:


The headphone jack should be unrelated to the mic config header and the KSB2 
board. Why do you think you need a new headphone jack, Frank?

Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:47 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:

So guess replacing my “headphone jack” will be a part of this process as well.
Frank

On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:39 PM, Matt VK2RQ matt.vk...@gmail.com wrote:


The “missing” PCB header is supplied with the KSB2 SSB option module. If you 
order a MH2 microphone, you’ll get a packet of PC-style jumpers to bridge the 
header. Otherwise, if you use a different type of microphone, you need to take 
care for the jumping yourself. The “UNPCB” guy sells a nice jumpering PCB that 
allows you to easily change the jumper setup for a range of standard mics, 
suggest you look it up below (look for “Internal Mic Adaptor”):
http://www.unpcbs.com/


73, Matt VK2RQ.


On 7 Dec 2014, at 12:36 pm, Frank Krozel kg9hfr...@gmail.com wrote:

All I “see” are pc holes that are unpopulated.  I am thinking there is a header 
missing or similar.
I was kind of looking for a jumper block.
Frank'
On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:


Frank, for the K2 (I think that's the rig you mean) the info you need is in this 
document ELECRAFT KSB2 S SB ADAPTER
Assembly and Operating Instructions. Near the end is the info for configuring 
it for various mics.

When you said Mine was inoperative when I got it used do you mean on SSB or 
completely?  Does it have the KSB2 option installed?

73, Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 5:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:

Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the items I 
will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and the headphone 
jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures and cannot 
find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that in case 
I need some additional connectors.
(I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
Frank KG9H


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[Elecraft] SSB at something more then 2.2kHz?

2014-12-06 Thread Frank Krozel
OK, pondering this after listening on the K2 to SSB tonight…. Has anyone tried 
to align the SSB module to get something more then 2.2kHz?
I was thinking of 2.4, 2.0, 1.7 as my filters when I get the SSB module.
Frank KG9H

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Re: [Elecraft] For Sale Elecraft k3 P3 AND Icom IC-7600

2014-12-06 Thread Mike va3mw
Just about every forum is reporting this. It seems it is Codar used for 
measuring waves. 

http://www.codar.com/index.htm

Mike va3mw

 On Dec 6, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH pin...@erols.com wrote:
 
 Noise on 160 Meters
 
 It may have been there for a while, but last night and tonight, I just 
 noticed a strange sweeping/buzzing noise on 160M, centered around 1915 kHz. 
 It's definitely coming from outside my immediate location because it I just 
 got off 1913 where it was reported to be S-9 in Wisconsin, Michigan  
 Tennessee.  Looking at the panadapter  waterfall display on the Flex, it's 
 about 30 kHz wide with a rep rate of about 3 CPS.  It was S-9 late last night 
 and early this morning, but barely audible at 0930 so I suspect it is 
 propagation limited.
 
 The best way to listen is in AM mode, tuned to 1915 kHz in the evening.
 
 Anybody hear this at your location?
 
 73, Charlie k3ICH
 
 
 - Original Message - From: W9AKX m...@brucemicek.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 8:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] For Sale Elecraft k3  P3 AND Icom IC-7600
 
 
 I'm very interested I the K3/P3. I'm a neighbor in Williston on Levy St.
 Please call me at 352.528.0992. Bruce W9AKX.
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] OT: Wave study RADARS

2014-12-06 Thread Ken G Kopp
Google CODAR and /or Seasonde for more information.

Spent several months as camp ground host in an Oregon State Park with one
of these operating in the plumbing space of a public toilet about a hundred
feet from our RV ... and my antenna.  (;-(

There are a number of Seasonde rigs
housed in OSP's along the coast.

The signals are about 50 kHZ wide.

73

Ken - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Wave study RADARS

2014-12-06 Thread Michael Walker
Apparently this isn't CODAR as it sounds different and it above 4Mhz
(according to some others).



Mike va3mw

On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Ken G Kopp kengk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Google CODAR and /or Seasonde for more information.

 Spent several months as camp ground host in an Oregon State Park with one
 of these operating in the plumbing space of a public toilet about a hundred
 feet from our RV ... and my antenna.  (;-(

 There are a number of Seasonde rigs
 housed in OSP's along the coast.

 The signals are about 50 kHZ wide.

 73

 Ken - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] SSB at something more then 2.2kHz?

2014-12-06 Thread Phil Wheeler
I think there's a tech note on that, Frank.  My 
recollection is that there was a mod to broaden 
SSB a bit. Look here and see what you find 
http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/ksb2_ssb_adapter_notes_and_alert.htm


The need for some of these may be S/N dependent -- 
and depend also on what the previous owner did 
(e.g., my K2 is #380 but it has most of the mods 
developed since, a few added this year).


73, Phil W7OX

On 12/6/14 6:09 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:

OK, pondering this after listening on the K2 to SSB tonight…. Has anyone tried 
to align the SSB module to get something more then 2.2kHz?
I was thinking of 2.4, 2.0, 1.7 as my filters when I get the SSB module.
Frank KG9H


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[Elecraft] SSB net announcement

2014-12-06 Thread Phil Shepard
The weekly Elecraft SSB net meets Sunday at 1800Z on 14.3035 MHz.  Stop by.

73,
Phil, NS7P (net control from Oregon)
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Re: [Elecraft] Jumpers for the K2 mic?

2014-12-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Frank,

The K2 microphone configuration header is on the back of the Front Panel 
Board.  See the KSB2 manual for details on the wiring for that header.


If the prior owner did not tell you what the microphone configuration 
header is wired for, you will have to do a physical examination of the 
header wiring compared to the wiring information presented in th KSB2 
manual.


To get to view the microphone configuration header, you must remove the 
Front Panel from the K2.  That means first removing the top cover (or 
KPA100), and then removing the KAF2 or KDSP2 options (if present) from 
the Control Board.  There will be either a standoff or a 4-40 screw 
securing the Control Board to the standoffs behind the front panel.


Once those connections between the Control board and the Front Panel 
board are removed, the Front Panel can be freed by removing the 4 screws 
holding the FPB to the K2 side panels and pulling the FPB forward.


Trace the wiring on the Microphone Configuration Header to determine if 
your particular microphone is wired correctly (see the KSB2 manual).


That should allow you to set your K2 to the microphone which you are 
trying to use with the K2,


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/6/2014 8:20 PM, Frank Krozel wrote:

Guys, I am about ready to place an order to Elecraft and one of the items I 
will be needing are a few of the connectors like P3, P6, and the headphone 
jack.  Mine was inoperative when I got it used..
Where is the jumper block for the mic?  Been staring at the pictures and cannot 
find the manual where it shows where the jumper block is.
I guess it is on the control panel but cannot find any picture of that in case 
I need some additional connectors.
(I got it used and it is in perfect condition!!)
Frank KG9H




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