Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

[Bob Wilson, N6TV]

Yes the S-BOX is designed to key FSK and PTT on a K3 ACC port, providing
the traditional NPN keying circuit, with no Y-BOX required (though it may
be convenient to have as well, depending on what else you need to connect
to the K3 ACC port).  Straight 9-pin and 15-pin D-SUB cables handle
everything, no need to use the S-BOX RCA connectors if you have a K3 or
K3S.  There are four independent keying circuits inside the S-BOX, so you
can key FSK on two radios with the one box, or CW/PTT on one and FSK/PTT on
the other, if you like.

See these links for a sample connection diagram and schematics:

https://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/S-BOX/Features.html#RemoteHams

https://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/S-BOX/Features.html#SO2RRTTY

Many other configurations are possible.

If you use a USB-to-Serial device by Edgeport, MMTTY can open open the
serial port directly at 45.5 baud Baudot.  If you use one based on FTDI,
such as the one built-in to the S-BOX-USB, you need to use EXTFSK or
EXTFSK64 with MMTTY since MMTTY standalone cannot open these directly at
45.5 baud.

The K3 produces very clean FSK.  AFSK can also work but there is more
potential for RFI problems and getting the audio levels set just right.

73,
Bob, N6TV
https://bit.ly/S-BOX

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Peter W2IRT  wrote:

> I went a similar route with a MicroKeyer MK-II. Does the job very well,
> but it
> makes disconnecting and re-connecting the radio a cast iron bear of a job.
> I
> really want to replace the MK-II with another (simpler) solution for FSK,
> CW
> keying, SSB voice file sequencing and CAT control, and was thinking the
> combination of a Y-box and an S-box-USB would do the job. The problem
> being the
> MK-II is RFI-susceptible, and the software has eaten itself on several
> occasions
> over the past few years.
>
>  - pjd
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces@
> mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of AB4IQ
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:04 PM
> To: 'Nr4c'; 'Richard Ferch'
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb
>
> I have a RigExpert TI-8 and Cable for the K3S that I bought new that does
> FSK with a built in Winkeyer as well.  I thought I would use it on the K3S
> but instead I just went the USB route and do AFSK.  It's still setting in
> the box looking lonely.  I also have cables for the Ten Tec Orion II, and
> Kenwood 590SG which I have parted with recently and probably need to get
> rid
> of this much needed (Ya Right) stuff.  Hi..
>
> The USB route was the simplest and does all of the sound card modes.
>
> Ed.. AB4IQ
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

[Peter W2IRT]

I went a similar route with a MicroKeyer MK-II. Does the job very well, but it
makes disconnecting and re-connecting the radio a cast iron bear of a job. I
really want to replace the MK-II with another (simpler) solution for FSK, CW
keying, SSB voice file sequencing and CAT control, and was thinking the
combination of a Y-box and an S-box-USB would do the job. The problem being the
MK-II is RFI-susceptible, and the software has eaten itself on several occasions
over the past few years.

 - pjd


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of AB4IQ
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:04 PM
To: 'Nr4c'; 'Richard Ferch'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

I have a RigExpert TI-8 and Cable for the K3S that I bought new that does
FSK with a built in Winkeyer as well.  I thought I would use it on the K3S
but instead I just went the USB route and do AFSK.  It's still setting in
the box looking lonely.  I also have cables for the Ten Tec Orion II, and
Kenwood 590SG which I have parted with recently and probably need to get rid
of this much needed (Ya Right) stuff.  Hi..

The USB route was the simplest and does all of the sound card modes.

Ed.. AB4IQ


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Re: [Elecraft] K-POD labels

[Bill Johnson]

Thanks for that infor, Eric.  Won't bother with P-Touch for that.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

https://wrj-tech.com/

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Eric Rosenberg
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:39 PM
To: elecraft@mailman net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-POD labels

Brother P-Touch labels fit between the K-POD function buttons.

The  best is TZ-211, 6 mm (1/4"). The next larger size, TZ-221, 9mm, (3/8") is 
just a hair too tight for me. Both are black print over a white background 
(which covers the F Key label on the K-POD. There are lots of choices of both 
background and type colors.

Magnets did not work for me for two reasons. The narrowest magnetic tape is 
1/2", which requires trimming. More of an issue is that the  magnet isn't 
strong enough to stay in place in the K-POD.

GL & 73,

Eric W3DQ
Washington, DC



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Re: [Elecraft] K-POD labels

[Eric Rosenberg]

Brother P-Touch labels fit between the K-POD function buttons.

The  best is TZ-211, 6 mm (1/4"). The next larger size, TZ-221, 9mm, (3/8") is 
just a hair too tight for me. Both are black print over a white background 
(which covers the F Key label on the K-POD. There are lots of choices of both 
background and type colors.

Magnets did not work for me for two reasons. The narrowest magnetic tape is 
1/2", which requires trimming. More of an issue is that the  magnet isn't 
strong enough to stay in place in the K-POD.

GL & 73,

Eric W3DQ
Washington, DC



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

[AB4IQ]

I have a RigExpert TI-8 and Cable for the K3S that I bought new that does
FSK with a built in Winkeyer as well.  I thought I would use it on the K3S
but instead I just went the USB route and do AFSK.  It's still setting in
the box looking lonely.  I also have cables for the Ten Tec Orion II, and
Kenwood 590SG which I have parted with recently and probably need to get rid
of this much needed (Ya Right) stuff.  Hi..

The USB route was the simplest and does all of the sound card modes.

Ed.. AB4IQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nr4c
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:23 PM
To: Richard Ferch 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

I believe that FSK uses the TX signal on a serial port  and is connected to
a pin on the DE15 ACC2 port on the K3(S). 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 30, 2018, at 2:19 PM, Richard Ferch  wrote:
> 
> To transmit FSK from N1MM+/MMTTY with a K3 or K3S, you need: (a) some 
> kind of serial port-based keying interface; and (b) a cable from the 
> keying interface to the 15-pin ACC port on the back of the K3/K3S (pin 
> 1 is the FSK keying input).
> 
> The serial port used for FSK keying by MMTTY must be a different 
> serial port from the port used by N1MM+ for radio control. The two 
> programs cannot share the same serial port.
> 
> The serial port interface can be a one-transistor keying circuit 
> connected to a true serial port, or the same kind of interface 
> connected to a USB-to-serial adapter with the help of the EXTFSK 
> plugin in MMTTY, or a USB device that incorporates both a virtual 
> serial port and a keying circuit, such as a commercially available 
> keying interface (e.g. microHam, RigExpert, ...), or a TinyFSK (either 
> with a special plugin for MMTTY or used directly from N1MM+).
> 
> In principle, an RTTY program could use radio control commands to key 
> FSK via the USB cable to the radio, but none of the RTTY modems 
> supported by
> N1MM+ (including MMTTY) use this method. It should be possible to 
> N1MM+ program
> CAT1ASC macros into the N1MM+ function keys to implement this 
> approach, but I don't know whether anyone has tried this. There are a 
> number of people who have used a similar approach for keying CW from 
> N1MM+ with the KX2 and KX3, and offhand I cannot think of a reason why 
> it would not also work in FSK RTTY, but I have never tried it. Just as 
> in CW, there are likely to be some features of N1MM+ that work with 
> more traditional methods but that wouldn't work using this unsupported
method.
> 
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
> 
> 
> PD1RP wrote:
> 
> I want to do FSK with my K3S.
> N1MM and MMTTY.
> The USB cable i used it for radio control.
> What kind of cable do i need for FSK or can i used the USB cable also.
> Any suggestions are welcome.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

[Nr4c]

I believe that FSK uses the TX signal on a serial port  and is connected to a 
pin on the DE15 ACC2 port on the K3(S). 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 30, 2018, at 2:19 PM, Richard Ferch  wrote:
> 
> To transmit FSK from N1MM+/MMTTY with a K3 or K3S, you need: (a) some kind
> of serial port-based keying interface; and (b) a cable from the keying
> interface to the 15-pin ACC port on the back of the K3/K3S (pin 1 is the
> FSK keying input).
> 
> The serial port used for FSK keying by MMTTY must be a different serial
> port from the port used by N1MM+ for radio control. The two programs cannot
> share the same serial port.
> 
> The serial port interface can be a one-transistor keying circuit connected
> to a true serial port, or the same kind of interface connected to a
> USB-to-serial adapter with the help of the EXTFSK plugin in MMTTY, or a USB
> device that incorporates both a virtual serial port and a keying circuit,
> such as a commercially available keying interface (e.g. microHam,
> RigExpert, ...), or a TinyFSK (either with a special plugin for MMTTY or
> used directly from N1MM+).
> 
> In principle, an RTTY program could use radio control commands to key FSK
> via the USB cable to the radio, but none of the RTTY modems supported by
> N1MM+ (including MMTTY) use this method. It should be possible to program
> CAT1ASC macros into the N1MM+ function keys to implement this approach, but
> I don't know whether anyone has tried this. There are a number of people
> who have used a similar approach for keying CW from N1MM+ with the KX2 and
> KX3, and offhand I cannot think of a reason why it would not also work in
> FSK RTTY, but I have never tried it. Just as in CW, there are likely to be
> some features of N1MM+ that work with more traditional methods but that
> wouldn't work using this unsupported method.
> 
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
> 
> 
> PD1RP wrote:
> 
> I want to do FSK with my K3S.
> N1MM and MMTTY.
> The USB cable i used it for radio control.
> What kind of cable do i need for FSK or can i used the USB cable also.
> Any suggestions are welcome.
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3 Remote] TERM Mode no longer persists?

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Rick,

The TERM message should always be transitory.  If it is not, you have an
RS-232 control problem (like the null-modem issue).  Check all your
cables.  In 100% of the times I've seen this issue, it's a loose connector
or a mismatched cable

73

Gerry Hull, W1VE  Hancock, NH USA
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:50 PM Rick Tavan  wrote:

> I seem to be suffering a recurrence of a very old problem (years ago) for
> which I don't recall the solution:
>
> I have a real K3 at the control site, controlling a K3 at the remote site
> via RRC-1258 MkII boxes. I have a mechanical D-SUB 9 pin switch to route
> the control site K3 serial port to either a local computer or the RRC. When
> routed to the RRC and operating normally, when I turn on the K3 it begins
> to show its power-on banner in the VFO B area, then mid-way through that
> scroll detects that it's in TERM mode with an RRC connected, powers up the
> remote K3, and all is well. However, that doesn't seem to be working now.
> The control K3 comes up and fails to detect the RRC. The power-on banner
> for the control K3 completes its scroll and the radio operates locally. I
> think it is slipping out of TERM mode. I can force it back into TERM mode
> with a long hold of the CONFIG button, but then it never turns on the
> remote radio. If I turn off the control K3 and then back on, it apparently
> has forgotten it was in TERM mode.
>
> Any advice?
>
> Thanks,
>
> /Rick N6XI
> --
>
> Rick Tavan
> Truckee, CA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

[Larry (K8UT)]

This thread is running parallel to a discussion running on the DXLabs 
reflector today, due to the release of a new MMTTY FSK interface to 
TinyFSK programmed by Oba JA7UDE. I'll apologize in advance for 
inserting the following:



I'd like to avoid having my response drag this thread into the perpetual 
debate about AFSK versus FSK RTTY.


However, if you already know that you prefer RTTY via FSK there has been 
a secondary argument about whether a RTTY application that is dependent 
on the interrupt/event timing characteristics of Windows can produce 
high fidelity FSK RTTY. Many (myself included) believe that the best 
RTTY FSK signals can be achieved by "outsourcing" RTTY timing to a 
separate processor -- which is exactly what TinySK achieves by running 
on an external Arduino board.


Then the problem becomes "well, can my RTTY program (MMTTY in this case) 
talk to a TinyFSK board?" Up until now MMTTY operating stand-alone had 
no interface to TinyFSK. This new modem definition file from Oba JA7UDE 
provides that interface. For users of other logging programs (like N1MM, 
DXLabs WinWarbler) where the developers had previously written 
work-arounds that could interface from MMTTY to TinyFSK, this work by 
JA7UDE may simplify the plumbing and configuration of a TinyFSK 
connection.


Finally, the last question becomes "well, what do I need to get this 
working?" If you google "tinyfsk by K0SM" you will see many websites 
(selfishly -- including my own www.mortty.info/mortty ) devoted to 
connecting your PC's USB port to an Arduino board with supporting 
hardware.



Additionally, Joe W4TV added that there are commercial devices available 
from several companies, most notably microHAM, which also "outsource" 
FSK RTTY timing to their external processors.


-larry (K8UT)

-- Original Message --
From: "brian" 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 2018-08-30 15:35:32
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb


Rich,

I seem to recall that the serial port needed for FSK generally cannot 
come from the run of the mill USB/RS232 converters.  They can't operate 
at 45 baud/5 bit rate needed.


See: http://aa5au.com/GettingStartedOnRtty.pdf

This is old info and things may have changed.

So what does a guy who has only USB ports do other than AFSK?  I 
thought that was his question.


73 de Brian/K3KO

On 8/30/2018 18:19 PM, Richard Ferch wrote:
To transmit FSK from N1MM+/MMTTY with a K3 or K3S, you need: (a) some 
kind

of serial port-based keying interface; and (b) a cable from the keying
interface to the 15-pin ACC port on the back of the K3/K3S (pin 1 is 
the

FSK keying input).

The serial port used for FSK keying by MMTTY must be a different 
serial
port from the port used by N1MM+ for radio control. The two programs 
cannot

share the same serial port.

The serial port interface can be a one-transistor keying circuit 
connected

to a true serial port, or the same kind of interface connected to a
USB-to-serial adapter with the help of the EXTFSK plugin in MMTTY, or 
a USB
device that incorporates both a virtual serial port and a keying 
circuit,

such as a commercially available keying interface (e.g. microHam,
RigExpert, ...), or a TinyFSK (either with a special plugin for MMTTY 
or

used directly from N1MM+).

In principle, an RTTY program could use radio control commands to key 
FSK
via the USB cable to the radio, but none of the RTTY modems supported 
by
N1MM+ (including MMTTY) use this method. It should be possible to 
program
CAT1ASC macros into the N1MM+ function keys to implement this 
approach, but
I don't know whether anyone has tried this. There are a number of 
people
who have used a similar approach for keying CW from N1MM+ with the KX2 
and
KX3, and offhand I cannot think of a reason why it would not also work 
in
FSK RTTY, but I have never tried it. Just as in CW, there are likely 
to be
some features of N1MM+ that work with more traditional methods but 
that

wouldn't work using this unsupported method.

73,
Rich VE3KI


PD1RP wrote:

I want to do FSK with my K3S.
N1MM and MMTTY.
The USB cable i used it for radio control.
What kind of cable do i need for FSK or can i used the USB cable also.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

[Richard Ferch]

Brian,

My first response would be "use AFSK". My second would be "use a TinyFSK
for FSK". But in response to your question, if you really want to key FSK
directly from a USB-to-serial adapter you can use the EXTFSK plugin in
MMTTY (). This works with any
USB-to-serial adapter. There is also a 64-bit version that supports other
baud rates () at the expense
of heavier CPU requirements.

As distinct from AFSK, neither TinyFSK nor FSK keying with EXTFSK works via
the USB cable used for radio control of the K3S (or K3 with KIO3B), which
was how I interpreted the original question. They both require their own
USB port, separate from the one used with the K3S for radio control and
sound card audio.

73,
Rich VE3KI

K3KO asked:

I seem to recall that the serial port needed for FSK generally cannot
come from the run of the mill USB/RS232 converters.  They can't operate
at 45 baud/5 bit rate needed.

See: http://aa5au.com/GettingStartedOnRtty.pdf

This is old info and things may have changed.

So what does a guy who has only USB ports do other than AFSK?  I thought
that was his question.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

[Henk de Vries (hdv)]

Hi Peter,

Using a regular/cheap USB <> RS232 converter and NPN-"interface" to the ACC
port.
FSK works fine here with my K3s.

MMTTY settings:
TX menu : port = EXTFSK64
Misc menu : tx-port = Com-TxD(FSK) ,  click USB and set C where needed

Audio via USB.

Henk PA0C

PS, kan jammer genoeg niet met RTTY contest meedoen

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Namens brian
Verzonden: donderdag 30 augustus 2018 19:36
Aan: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

Rich,

I seem to recall that the serial port needed for FSK generally cannot come
from the run of the mill USB/RS232 converters.  They can't operate at 45
baud/5 bit rate needed.

See: http://aa5au.com/GettingStartedOnRtty.pdf

This is old info and things may have changed.

So what does a guy who has only USB ports do other than AFSK?  I thought
that was his question.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 8/30/2018 18:19 PM, Richard Ferch wrote:
> To transmit FSK from N1MM+/MMTTY with a K3 or K3S, you need: (a) some 
> kind of serial port-based keying interface; and (b) a cable from the 
> keying interface to the 15-pin ACC port on the back of the K3/K3S (pin 
> 1 is the FSK keying input).
>
> The serial port used for FSK keying by MMTTY must be a different 
> serial port from the port used by N1MM+ for radio control. The two 
> programs cannot share the same serial port.
>
> The serial port interface can be a one-transistor keying circuit 
> connected to a true serial port, or the same kind of interface 
> connected to a USB-to-serial adapter with the help of the EXTFSK 
> plugin in MMTTY, or a USB device that incorporates both a virtual 
> serial port and a keying circuit, such as a commercially available 
> keying interface (e.g. microHam, RigExpert, ...), or a TinyFSK (either 
> with a special plugin for MMTTY or used directly from N1MM+).
>
> In principle, an RTTY program could use radio control commands to key 
> FSK via the USB cable to the radio, but none of the RTTY modems 
> supported by
> N1MM+ (including MMTTY) use this method. It should be possible to 
> N1MM+ program
> CAT1ASC macros into the N1MM+ function keys to implement this 
> approach, but I don't know whether anyone has tried this. There are a 
> number of people who have used a similar approach for keying CW from 
> N1MM+ with the KX2 and KX3, and offhand I cannot think of a reason why 
> it would not also work in FSK RTTY, but I have never tried it. Just as 
> in CW, there are likely to be some features of N1MM+ that work with 
> more traditional methods but that wouldn't work using this unsupported
method.
>
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
>
>
> PD1RP wrote:
>
> I want to do FSK with my K3S.
> N1MM and MMTTY.
> The USB cable i used it for radio control.
> What kind of cable do i need for FSK or can i used the USB cable also.
> Any suggestions are welcome.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

[brian]

Rich,

I seem to recall that the serial port needed for FSK generally cannot 
come from the run of the mill USB/RS232 converters.  They can't operate 
at 45 baud/5 bit rate needed.


See: http://aa5au.com/GettingStartedOnRtty.pdf

This is old info and things may have changed.

So what does a guy who has only USB ports do other than AFSK?  I thought 
that was his question.


73 de Brian/K3KO

On 8/30/2018 18:19 PM, Richard Ferch wrote:

To transmit FSK from N1MM+/MMTTY with a K3 or K3S, you need: (a) some kind
of serial port-based keying interface; and (b) a cable from the keying
interface to the 15-pin ACC port on the back of the K3/K3S (pin 1 is the
FSK keying input).

The serial port used for FSK keying by MMTTY must be a different serial
port from the port used by N1MM+ for radio control. The two programs cannot
share the same serial port.

The serial port interface can be a one-transistor keying circuit connected
to a true serial port, or the same kind of interface connected to a
USB-to-serial adapter with the help of the EXTFSK plugin in MMTTY, or a USB
device that incorporates both a virtual serial port and a keying circuit,
such as a commercially available keying interface (e.g. microHam,
RigExpert, ...), or a TinyFSK (either with a special plugin for MMTTY or
used directly from N1MM+).

In principle, an RTTY program could use radio control commands to key FSK
via the USB cable to the radio, but none of the RTTY modems supported by
N1MM+ (including MMTTY) use this method. It should be possible to program
CAT1ASC macros into the N1MM+ function keys to implement this approach, but
I don't know whether anyone has tried this. There are a number of people
who have used a similar approach for keying CW from N1MM+ with the KX2 and
KX3, and offhand I cannot think of a reason why it would not also work in
FSK RTTY, but I have never tried it. Just as in CW, there are likely to be
some features of N1MM+ that work with more traditional methods but that
wouldn't work using this unsupported method.

73,
Rich VE3KI


PD1RP wrote:

I want to do FSK with my K3S.
N1MM and MMTTY.
The USB cable i used it for radio control.
What kind of cable do i need for FSK or can i used the USB cable also.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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Re: [Elecraft] Picture of the 3 x 5 card label solution For K-POD switches

[Bill Johnson]

Thanks, Chuck.  I added to topic to aleve the topic concerns.  Like the 
simplicity.  When I don't use a particular switch often enough, I forget what 
it is for.  When I programmed and when I remember can be quite distant in time. 

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Ok, ios12 and iCloud put the pictures on this link:

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

[Richard Ferch]

To transmit FSK from N1MM+/MMTTY with a K3 or K3S, you need: (a) some kind
of serial port-based keying interface; and (b) a cable from the keying
interface to the 15-pin ACC port on the back of the K3/K3S (pin 1 is the
FSK keying input).

The serial port used for FSK keying by MMTTY must be a different serial
port from the port used by N1MM+ for radio control. The two programs cannot
share the same serial port.

The serial port interface can be a one-transistor keying circuit connected
to a true serial port, or the same kind of interface connected to a
USB-to-serial adapter with the help of the EXTFSK plugin in MMTTY, or a USB
device that incorporates both a virtual serial port and a keying circuit,
such as a commercially available keying interface (e.g. microHam,
RigExpert, ...), or a TinyFSK (either with a special plugin for MMTTY or
used directly from N1MM+).

In principle, an RTTY program could use radio control commands to key FSK
via the USB cable to the radio, but none of the RTTY modems supported by
N1MM+ (including MMTTY) use this method. It should be possible to program
CAT1ASC macros into the N1MM+ function keys to implement this approach, but
I don't know whether anyone has tried this. There are a number of people
who have used a similar approach for keying CW from N1MM+ with the KX2 and
KX3, and offhand I cannot think of a reason why it would not also work in
FSK RTTY, but I have never tried it. Just as in CW, there are likely to be
some features of N1MM+ that work with more traditional methods but that
wouldn't work using this unsupported method.

73,
Rich VE3KI


PD1RP wrote:

I want to do FSK with my K3S.
N1MM and MMTTY.
The USB cable i used it for radio control.
What kind of cable do i need for FSK or can i used the USB cable also.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3 Remote] TERM Mode no longer persists?

[Fred Jensen]

I've experienced this several times Rick. Once, it was because I had 
dismantled my control setup and when I reassembled it, I forgot to use 
the null modem cable between the K3 and RRC.  The other times [three 
maybe], it's been a bad RS-232 DE-9 connection at the RRC.  I think it 
is only one pin ... apparently all DE-9 jumpers are not created equal.


I use a mechanical A/B switch too.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/30/2018 10:50 AM, Rick Tavan wrote:

I seem to be suffering a recurrence of a very old problem (years ago) for
which I don't recall the solution:

I have a real K3 at the control site, controlling a K3 at the remote site
via RRC-1258 MkII boxes. I have a mechanical D-SUB 9 pin switch to route
the control site K3 serial port to either a local computer or the RRC. When
routed to the RRC and operating normally, when I turn on the K3 it begins
to show its power-on banner in the VFO B area, then mid-way through that
scroll detects that it's in TERM mode with an RRC connected, powers up the
remote K3, and all is well. However, that doesn't seem to be working now.
The control K3 comes up and fails to detect the RRC. The power-on banner
for the control K3 completes its scroll and the radio operates locally. I
think it is slipping out of TERM mode. I can force it back into TERM mode
with a long hold of the CONFIG button, but then it never turns on the
remote radio. If I turn off the control K3 and then back on, it apparently
has forgotten it was in TERM mode.

Any advice?

Thanks,

/Rick N6XI
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Truckee, CA
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[Elecraft] KPA500 in Operate when powered on

[paule408--- via Elecraft]

I have two KPA500 amplifiers that I use with a remote station. Both have the 
latest firmware. 
I have these configured to go into Operate mode when powered on, however I have 
many issues getting this setting to "stick". In other words, when remotely 
powered on, they come up in Standby despite the setting to come on in Operate. 
Firmware is up to date. Anyone know a fix for this?
Thanks,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I agree with Don, why not do AFSK and eliminate all the extra hardware 
and cables?  No one except you will know the difference.


73
Bob, K4TAX





On 8/30/2018 12:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Peter,

You will have to gain access to the RS-232 DTR or RTS signals.
If you do not have the P3, you can insert the RJ45 to serial port 
dongle and pick the signals from that connector.  Although I have not 
tried it, I believe it will work.
You will also need to use a "one transistor keying interface" (google 
for it) to convert the signal level to TTL for driving the ACC 
connector FSK pin.


If you do have the P3, you can add a "Y" cable to the P3 connector 
labeled "PC" to gain access to the serial port signals.


Actually, you will likely find it easier to use AFSK A and drive the 
audio from the internal soundcard in the K3S.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/30/2018 12:59 PM, Peter B wrote:

Hello list,
I want to do FSK with my K3S.
N1MM and MMTTY.
The USB cable i used it for radio control.
What kind of cable do i need for FSK or can i used the USB cable also.
Any suggestions are welcome.

73s
Peter/pd1rp

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[Elecraft] [K3 Remote] TERM Mode no longer persists?

[Rick Tavan]

I seem to be suffering a recurrence of a very old problem (years ago) for
which I don't recall the solution:

I have a real K3 at the control site, controlling a K3 at the remote site
via RRC-1258 MkII boxes. I have a mechanical D-SUB 9 pin switch to route
the control site K3 serial port to either a local computer or the RRC. When
routed to the RRC and operating normally, when I turn on the K3 it begins
to show its power-on banner in the VFO B area, then mid-way through that
scroll detects that it's in TERM mode with an RRC connected, powers up the
remote K3, and all is well. However, that doesn't seem to be working now.
The control K3 comes up and fails to detect the RRC. The power-on banner
for the control K3 completes its scroll and the radio operates locally. I
think it is slipping out of TERM mode. I can force it back into TERM mode
with a long hold of the CONFIG button, but then it never turns on the
remote radio. If I turn off the control K3 and then back on, it apparently
has forgotten it was in TERM mode.

Any advice?

Thanks,

/Rick N6XI
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Truckee, CA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

[Don Wilhelm]

Peter,

You will have to gain access to the RS-232 DTR or RTS signals.
If you do not have the P3, you can insert the RJ45 to serial port dongle 
and pick the signals from that connector.  Although I have not tried it, 
I believe it will work.
You will also need to use a "one transistor keying interface" (google 
for it) to convert the signal level to TTL for driving the ACC connector 
FSK pin.


If you do have the P3, you can add a "Y" cable to the P3 connector 
labeled "PC" to gain access to the serial port signals.


Actually, you will likely find it easier to use AFSK A and drive the 
audio from the internal soundcard in the K3S.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/30/2018 12:59 PM, Peter B wrote:

Hello list,
I want to do FSK with my K3S.
N1MM and MMTTY.
The USB cable i used it for radio control.
What kind of cable do i need for FSK or can i used the USB cable also.
Any suggestions are welcome.

73s
Peter/pd1rp

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[Elecraft] K3S fsk with usb

[Peter B]

Hello list,
I want to do FSK with my K3S.
N1MM and MMTTY.
The USB cable i used it for radio control.
What kind of cable do i need for FSK or can i used the USB cable also.
Any suggestions are welcome.

73s
Peter/pd1rp
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[Elecraft] Picture of the 3 x 5 card label solution

[hawley, charles j jr]

Ok, ios12 and iCloud put the pictures on this link:

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0aNIqRlH8m9F8ZeHC2ArfYLNg#Home




Chuck
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Re: [Elecraft] Picture of 3 by 5 card solution for K Pod cheat sheet

[ab2tc]

Hi Don,

This is sent via Nabble. You'll see your posting below as a quote. The Quote
button is very visible above the text area to the left. The quote is easy to
trim. I find Nabble very convenient for responding to messages.

AB2TC - Knut


Don Wilhelm wrote
> Because many read the posts on Nabble and it is difficult to add a bit 
> of information to indicate what they are referring to.  Those posters 
> might just as well talk into the wind, without context for reference, 
> the subject line is not sufficient.
> Same with call signs shown in your email address.
> To help everyone else, please sign you emails.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 8/30/2018 10:43 AM, W2xj wrote:
> 





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Re: [Elecraft] FS: K-Pod SOLD

[Bill]

Sold

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Re: [Elecraft] FS: Pig Knob for K3 SOLD

[Bill]

Sold

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Re: [Elecraft] FS: K-Pod

[Bill]

Has been sold.

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[Elecraft] FS: Pig Knob for K3

[Bill]

Has VFO and 8 programmable buttons (poor man's K-Pod). In excellent 
condition - hardly used - shipped to your door in the lower 48 for 
$35.00. Postal MO or PayPal only. Address good in QRZ.


Bill W2BLC

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[Elecraft] FS: K-Pod

[Bill]

K-Pod in excellent condition - hardly used - shipped to your door in the 
lower 48 for $180.00. Postal MO or PayPal only. Address good in QRZ.


Bill W2BLC

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Re: [Elecraft] Picture of 3 by 5 card solution for K Pod cheat sheet

[Don Wilhelm]

Because many read the posts on Nabble and it is difficult to add a bit 
of information to indicate what they are referring to.  Those posters 
might just as well talk into the wind, without context for reference, 
the subject line is not sufficient.

Same with call signs shown in your email address.
To help everyone else, please sign you emails.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/30/2018 10:43 AM, W2xj wrote:

Why all these posts lacking context?

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 30, 2018, at 6:36 AM, hawley, charles j jr  wrote:



I only show one side to satisfy KB limitation.

Chuck
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 power setting issue

[Don Wilhelm]

Chris,

Which flavor K2 do you have?
Base K2 only
Base K2 with KAT2
K2 with KPA100 installed

The bottom line is that there is no indication of power output being fed 
back to the MCU on the VRFDET line, so the MCU tries to ramp up power to 
produce more output - and it will go to its maximum capability.

For the base K2 only, look at the D9 RF Detector and its circuit.
For the QRP K2 with the KAT2, it is the wattmeter in the KAT2.
If it has worked before, it is likely diodes D1 and D2 in the KAT2 - 
replace them.
If it has never worked, make certain T1 is wound correctly, including 
the direction of the winding. If the reverse of what is shown in the 
manual, rewind it EXACTLY like the diagram in the manual.


If the KPA100 is installed, and has worked before, it is likely diodes 
D16 and D17.  If it has not worked before, check T4, it must be wound 
EXACTLY like the diagram.


Turn the CAL CUR setting up to 3.50 for either the QRP K2 or the KPA100, 
and make sure the power supply voltage is 13.8 or greater under full 
power transmit load.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/30/2018 10:12 AM, Chris wrote:

My second K2 has some issue with output power.  The power is set at 1.0W
but is measured at over 10W at the dummy load.  When I set the power to a
little higher, I get 'Hi Cur' message but it goes away after a second.

CAL CUR is set at 2.5A, and the modulation seems OK when I hear from other
receivers.  The max output with the pot all the way up is about 14W, so I
think the final is fine.

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Re: [Elecraft] Bizarre K2 keyer issue

[Cameron Francey]

FYI,
I had a very similar issue last month, I keyed down and I got an error code on 
the display, I cant remember exactly what one it was but it wasn’t listed in 
the manual.
Anyway, all I done was took the key plug out and reseated it and all was well 
again.  I suspect a high resistance connection on key socket confuses the micro 
controller in some unexpected way.

73, Cameron – AF7DK/GM7LQR


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bizarre K2 keyer issue

It's the darndest thing - but I'll take it!

I don't have the diodes. I don't have SSB, or a mic jack. So...I did the
test with the shorted stereo plug. Everything worked fine.

So then, I plugged in my paddles, and - everything worked fine.

Hooked up my new delta loop, worked France with 5W, got a 599.

So thanks, Don, for the long-distance exorcism. May it last!

Lloyd, K3ESE


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Re: [Elecraft] Picture of 3 by 5 card solution for K Pod cheat sheet

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Why all these posts lacking context?

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[Elecraft] K2 power setting issue

[Chris]

My second K2 has some issue with output power.  The power is set at 1.0W
but is measured at over 10W at the dummy load.  When I set the power to a
little higher, I get 'Hi Cur' message but it goes away after a second.

CAL CUR is set at 2.5A, and the modulation seems OK when I hear from other
receivers.  The max output with the pot all the way up is about 14W, so I
think the final is fine.

Any info is appreciated.  Thanks.

Chris AD1AD
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Re: [Elecraft] Picture of 3 by 5 card solution for K Pod cheat sheet

[hawley, charles j jr]

Sorry, I guess pictures are not allowed 

Chuck Jack 
KE9UW

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[Elecraft] Picture of 3 by 5 card solution for K Pod cheat sheet

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I only show one side to satisfy KB limitation.

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Re: [Elecraft] K-POD labels

[IK4EWX]

Chuck, this solution is in line with my first opinion. In the past I used on
a home  made superkeyer III a transparent adhesive sheet that I printed with
a laser printer, with black characters, with great result. Here the problem
is the black face of KPOD. 
It should be a clear and not transaparent sheet printed with laser printer
or better a black sheet printable in white with a color printer.
Great but not easy, sure it is simpler the Brother o Dymo thermal printer
way...
73,
Ian IK4EWX



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Re: [Elecraft] K-POD labels

[IK4EWX]

Mike, where is available to buy this thin magnetic strip?
Thanks
Ian IK4EWX



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Re: [Elecraft] K-POD labels

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Thanks Fred. I will try this way. 73, Ian IK4EWX



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Re: [Elecraft] K-POD labels

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Thanks Dwight. I thought to use a single adesive sheet but your solution is
sure easier.
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