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Re: [Elecraft] newbie kx3 question

2018-12-12 Thread Don Wilhelm


Rick,

If the ATU has already been tuned to that frequency and antenna, you may 
not hear any clicks.  The ATU remembers the proper L and C values and 
changes to them as you change frequency.
Then when you push the ATU TUNE button, the KX3 see an already low SWR 
and simply exits.


Change the antenna, and you will hear clicking.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 12/12/2018 6:19 AM, Richard watson wrote:

Good morning listers,
just got my kx3 yesterday and had a quick question,
I had the internal tuner factory installed. Whenever I push the
antenna tune button (connected to a random wire, the relays don't seem
to engage. I am visually impaired and am still learning the hampod as
well. Should I hear something whenever I push the button and if so
what?
thanks and 73 rick

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Re: [Elecraft] newbie kx3 question

2018-12-12 Thread Brian Waterworth

Is the ATU enabled in the settings menu?   Page 14 of the KX3 User's guide,
right hand column, about half way down the page: The ATU MD menu entry must
be set to AUTO mode.

Yes, you will hear lots of clicking and whirring as the internal relays
select the right LC values.

regards,
Brian
VE3IBW

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:22 AM Richard watson <
richard.watson15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Good morning listers,
> just got my kx3 yesterday and had a quick question,
> I had the internal tuner factory installed. Whenever I push the
> antenna tune button (connected to a random wire, the relays don't seem
> to engage. I am visually impaired and am still learning the hampod as
> well. Should I hear something whenever I push the button and if so
> what?
> thanks and 73 rick
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[Elecraft] newbie kx3 question

2018-12-12 Thread Richard watson

Good morning listers,
just got my kx3 yesterday and had a quick question,
I had the internal tuner factory installed. Whenever I push the
antenna tune button (connected to a random wire, the relays don't seem
to engage. I am visually impaired and am still learning the hampod as
well. Should I hear something whenever I push the button and if so
what?
thanks and 73 rick
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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question - re: kx2 with amp

2016-11-05 Thread Keith Hutt


Hi

The KXPA 100 works fine with the KX2, though i normally run mine with the 
KX3


Regards

Keith G0TSH

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Parish

Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2016 7:14 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Newbie question - re: kx2 with amp

I am waiting for my kx2 to arrive. I  am delighted at the energetic and 
thoughtful responses in this group.


While waiting I was wondering - is there and option to use the kxa10 100 
watt amp in the future with the kx2 if I wanted too?


If so, how much battery power would the kxa10 and optional ATU require for a 
portable hike type operation? I realize it's more weight, I am just curious 
to explore what's possible.


Thank you,
Tom KG5LBP


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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question - re: kx2 with amp

2016-11-05 Thread Walter Underwood

The KXPA100 should work fine with your KX2.

At 13.8 V, the KXPA100 typically uses 20 Amps. Add that to the 1 or 2 Amps 
needed by the KX2.

http://www.elecraft.com/KXPA100/kxpa100.htm 

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX2%20FAQ%20v-1-1a.pdf 


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> On Nov 5, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Tom Parish  wrote:
> 
> I am waiting for my kx2 to arrive. I  am delighted at the energetic and 
> thoughtful responses in this group.
> 
> While waiting I was wondering - is there and option to use the kxa10 100 watt 
> amp in the future with the kx2 if I wanted too? 
> 
> If so, how much battery power would the kxa10 and optional ATU require for a 
> portable hike type operation? I realize it's more weight, I am just curious 
> to explore what's possible. 
> 
> Thank you,
> Tom KG5LBP
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question - re: kx2 with amp

2016-11-05 Thread John

Congratulations Tom on your ordering the KX2. You will love. I have had mine
1 week and can't say enough about it. 

John K2JHU...
Peace Through Strength 


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Parish
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2016 3:14 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Newbie question - re: kx2 with amp

I am waiting for my kx2 to arrive. I  am delighted at the energetic and
thoughtful responses in this group.

While waiting I was wondering - is there and option to use the kxa10 100
watt amp in the future with the kx2 if I wanted too? 

If so, how much battery power would the kxa10 and optional ATU require for a
portable hike type operation? I realize it's more weight, I am just curious
to explore what's possible. 

Thank you,
Tom KG5LBP


Sent from my iPhone
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[Elecraft] Newbie question - re: kx2 with amp

2016-11-05 Thread Tom Parish

I am waiting for my kx2 to arrive. I  am delighted at the energetic and 
thoughtful responses in this group.

While waiting I was wondering - is there and option to use the kxa10 100 watt 
amp in the future with the kx2 if I wanted too? 

If so, how much battery power would the kxa10 and optional ATU require for a 
portable hike type operation? I realize it's more weight, I am just curious to 
explore what's possible. 

Thank you,
Tom KG5LBP


Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question... AGAIN!

2016-10-23 Thread Don Wilhelm


Emory,

There are plenty of references in the manual to the OFS/B knob. 
Unfortunately, those are masked to a search of the .pdf of the manual 
because they are images in the manual.

See page 12 (last column) for the definition of the OFS/B knob.
The use of the UFS LED is in the RIT and XIT text on page 16 - similarly 
the VFO B shows use of the B LED on page 16.

Also see pages 5 and 23 for the use in Special VFO B displays.
Page 5 indicates that the VFO/B knob is used to scroll through the menu 
entries.

Use of the knob for selecting data submodes is on pages 27 and 28.
Use of the knob for Text Decode is on page 29.

I may have missed a few of the references to the OFS/B knob images or 
the OFS and B LEDs, but the above are a few of them.


OFS is an abbreviation for OFFSET.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 10/23/2016 9:20 PM, Emory Schley wrote:

OK, I'll try this again...

I'm the new owner of a KX2 and am trying to learn all I can about the rig. One thing 
about it truly stumps me. The multi-purpose knob at the far right side of the rig is 
labeled OFS, and for the life of me, I cannot figure out what OFS stands for. I turned my 
computer loose on the PDF copy of the Owner's Manual and could find nothing identifying 
that label there. I also searched through the printed version of the manual. If it's in 
there somewhere, I've been unable to find it. I even wrote a note to Elecraft about it, 
and for some reason, they ignored my note even though they were quite responsive in 
answering questions BEFORE I bought the radio. So, I now turn to you. Does ANYONE know 
what "OFS" stands for?


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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question... AGAIN!

2016-10-23 Thread Nr4c

OFfSet, as in RIT or XIT. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 23, 2016, at 9:20 PM, Emory Schley  wrote:
> 
> OK, I'll try this again...
>  
> I'm the new owner of a KX2 and am trying to learn all I can about the rig. 
> One thing about it truly stumps me. The multi-purpose knob at the far right 
> side of the rig is labeled OFS, and for the life of me, I cannot figure out 
> what OFS stands for. I turned my computer loose on the PDF copy of the 
> Owner's Manual and could find nothing identifying that label there. I also 
> searched through the printed version of the manual. If it's in there 
> somewhere, I've been unable to find it. I even wrote a note to Elecraft about 
> it, and for some reason, they ignored my note even though they were quite 
> responsive in answering questions BEFORE I bought the radio. So, I now turn 
> to you. Does ANYONE know what "OFS" stands for?
>  
> Thanks, Emory N4LP
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[Elecraft] newbie question

2016-10-23 Thread Emory Schley


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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question... AGAIN!

2016-10-23 Thread ANCLETUS ERNEST

This OFS is for your sub vfo and your rit that all its for.
J69Z

>From my DL750 Digicel

On Oct 23, 2016 8:22 PM, Emory Schley  wrote:
OK, I'll try this again...

I'm the new owner of a KX2 and am trying to learn all I can about the rig. One 
thing about it truly stumps me. The multi-purpose knob at the far right side of 
the rig is labeled OFS, and for the life of me, I cannot figure out what OFS 
stands for. I turned my computer loose on the PDF copy of the Owner's Manual 
and could find nothing identifying that label there. I also searched through 
the printed version of the manual. If it's in there somewhere, I've been unable 
to find it. I even wrote a note to Elecraft about it, and for some reason, they 
ignored my note even though they were quite responsive in answering questions 
BEFORE I bought the radio. So, I now turn to you. Does ANYONE know what "OFS" 
stands for?

Thanks, Emory N4LP
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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question... AGAIN!

2016-10-23 Thread Walter Underwood

Just searched for OFS in the KX3 manual and I don’t see it ever defined. From 
context, I believe it is short for “Offset”. I think you have found a bug in 
the manual. It should be explained.

Enjoy the rig!

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> On Oct 23, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Emory Schley  wrote:
> 
> OK, I'll try this again...
>  
> I'm the new owner of a KX2 and am trying to learn all I can about the rig. 
> One thing about it truly stumps me. The multi-purpose knob at the far right 
> side of the rig is labeled OFS, and for the life of me, I cannot figure out 
> what OFS stands for. I turned my computer loose on the PDF copy of the 
> Owner's Manual and could find nothing identifying that label there. I also 
> searched through the printed version of the manual. If it's in there 
> somewhere, I've been unable to find it. I even wrote a note to Elecraft about 
> it, and for some reason, they ignored my note even though they were quite 
> responsive in answering questions BEFORE I bought the radio. So, I now turn 
> to you. Does ANYONE know what "OFS" stands for?
>  
> Thanks, Emory N4LP
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[Elecraft] Newbie question... AGAIN!

2016-10-23 Thread Emory Schley

OK, I'll try this again...
 
I'm the new owner of a KX2 and am trying to learn all I can about the rig. One 
thing about it truly stumps me. The multi-purpose knob at the far right side of 
the rig is labeled OFS, and for the life of me, I cannot figure out what OFS 
stands for. I turned my computer loose on the PDF copy of the Owner's Manual 
and could find nothing identifying that label there. I also searched through 
the printed version of the manual. If it's in there somewhere, I've been unable 
to find it. I even wrote a note to Elecraft about it, and for some reason, they 
ignored my note even though they were quite responsive in answering questions 
BEFORE I bought the radio. So, I now turn to you. Does ANYONE know what "OFS" 
stands for?
 
Thanks, Emory N4LP
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[Elecraft] newbie question

2016-10-23 Thread Emory Schley


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[Elecraft] Newbie question...

2016-10-23 Thread Emory Schley


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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie still looking for a friendly face in Orlando with a K3S

2015-11-22 Thread Don Wilhelm


David,

I am not in that area, and cannot give you hands-on assistance, but if I 
can help via email, I am willing to do that.
Take it off-list and email me direct (delete [Elecraft] from the subject 
line).  I will be on vacation this next week, but I will have email.  I 
may not be instantly responsive, so a bit of patience may be required 
until I can get to my emails.


The K3S can be operated with the default settings and will perform well, 
so just turn it on and operate.  The real "rub" comes in for adjusting 
the mic gain and other such things.  The manual covers those items quite 
nicely, but you have to know what microphone and whether it needs bias 
or not.  Those are the subtle things that cannot be covered in the 
manual because there are so many variations.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/22/2015 5:05 PM, David Glasser wrote:

Hi
I am a real newbie searching for someone in the Orlando area (I live just south 
of Disney!) who owns a K3S and who has the patience to chat through the things 
I need to consider in setting up a shack for a soon to be acquired K3S!!
All help small or big would be greatly appreciated.
I have overcome my first hurdle by convincing our HOA to grant permission to me 
for the erection of a 30ft vertical antenna!
I can be contacted at:



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[Elecraft] Newbie question re digital modes

2015-11-22 Thread Steve via Elecraft

I think I may just be overcome by  an embarrassment of riches. I have  
recently acquired a K3 and  the serial to USB cable to run the utility  
program. 
 I would like to try digital -- particularly PSK31 -- which I now  do with 
IC7000 and Signalink TNC. I have been using FLDIGI  satisfactorily.  My 
question is whether (1) I should try to run FLDIGI with  my K3 directly through 
the RS232/USB cable, (2) should I get the cable and  jumper card for K3 for 
the Signalink, (3) should I get the "tridentate"  cable set to connect with 
the K3  using the line-in/line-out/ptt  connections on the back?  
 
An amusing side thing: I had my K3 tuned to 14.070 upper side band and  I 
booted up FLDIGI on my laptop with no physical connection between them. To my 
 amazement, I saw a waterfall display and, when I placed the cursor on a 
nice  strong signal, I saw decoded text. I can only assume that the laptop's  
microphone was open and FLDIGI picked it up from the audio output of my 
radio.  Alternatively, it may have been an occult message to me that I need to 
better  understand the mechanics of digital  :-}
 
TNX for any advice especially if I can understand it.  VY 73 de  W3UEC
 
Stephen Dubin V.M.D., Ph. D.
Guerir quelquefois, soulager  souvent, consoler toujours.
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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question re digital modes

2015-11-22 Thread mcduffie


> An amusing side thing: I had my K3 tuned to 14.070 upper side band and  I 
> booted up FLDIGI on my laptop with no physical connection between them. To my 
>  amazement, I saw a waterfall display and, when I placed the cursor on a 
> nice  strong signal, I saw decoded text. I can only assume that the laptop's  
> microphone was open and FLDIGI picked it up from the audio output of my 
> radio.

Bingo!  Internal mic.  You need to be sure you shut that off when you wire it
direct.

I did a demo many years ago, when PSK31 was the new guy on the block, where I
had a laptop on one end of the meeting room for our ham club and the receive
audio source on the other end.  It copied perfectly, even with the room
acoustics.

Gary-AG0N
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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question re digital modes

2015-11-22 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX

I suggest connecting the radio to the computer via the single USB 
cable.  It handles the audio and the radio commands for CAT control.  
The SignaLink USB is not needed nor preferred in this case.  Configure 
the FLDIGI application through the various menus in the software for the 
radio using the HAMLIB menu in the application.


Yep, assuredly he receiver audio was being heard by the mike in the 
computer.


73
Bob, K4TAX

On 11/22/2015 1:33 PM, Steve via Elecraft wrote:

I think I may just be overcome by  an embarrassment of riches. I have
recently acquired a K3 and  the serial to USB cable to run the utility  program.
  I would like to try digital -- particularly PSK31 -- which I now  do with
IC7000 and Signalink TNC. I have been using FLDIGI  satisfactorily.  My
question is whether (1) I should try to run FLDIGI with  my K3 directly through
the RS232/USB cable, (2) should I get the cable and  jumper card for K3 for
the Signalink, (3) should I get the "tridentate"  cable set to connect with
the K3  using the line-in/line-out/ptt  connections on the back?
  
An amusing side thing: I had my K3 tuned to 14.070 upper side band and  I

booted up FLDIGI on my laptop with no physical connection between them. To my
  amazement, I saw a waterfall display and, when I placed the cursor on a
nice  strong signal, I saw decoded text. I can only assume that the laptop's
microphone was open and FLDIGI picked it up from the audio output of my
radio.  Alternatively, it may have been an occult message to me that I need to
better  understand the mechanics of digital  :-}
  
TNX for any advice especially if I can understand it.  VY 73 de  W3UEC
  
Stephen Dubin V.M.D., Ph. D.

Guerir quelquefois, soulager  souvent, consoler toujours.



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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question re digital modes

2015-11-22 Thread Don Wilhelm


Steve,

There are many possibilities - my personal recommendations are below:

Your computer likely has a soundcard - to give data modes with the K3 a 
try on the K3, just use two stereo cables between your computer and the K3.
Computer Line Out to K3 Line In, and K3 Line Out to the computer Line In 
(or mic in).  If your computer has only Mic In, look in the soundcard 
properties window to see if you can set that input for line level.
Tell Fldigi to use that internal soundcard.  The K3 and K3S have 
galvanic isolation built in, so there is no real need for an isolated 
interface box.

Turn off Windows Sounds so you do not play those over the air.
Use VOX on the K3.  With data modes, there is no concern about ambient 
room noise triggering the VOX.


After experimenting with that setup, decide whether you want to use your 
existing SignaLink with the K3 or whether you want to buy another 
external USB soundcard - compare the cost of the USB soundcard vs. the 
K3 cables for the SignaLink.  Many adequate soundcards are available at 
low prices.  Look at Amazon and Ebay for example, most any soundcard 
will do for data modes.


If you have aspirations about using the K3 and LP-Pan for panadapter use 
(in lieu of the P3) then get a USB soundcard that will do that job - 24 
bits and a 192kHz rating with a low noise figure (see the soundcards 
listed at www.telepostinc.com) instead of the low price soundcard.  By 
switching the audio cables, you can use that soundcard for both data 
modes and the panadapter application.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/22/2015 2:33 PM, Steve via Elecraft wrote:

I think I may just be overcome by  an embarrassment of riches. I have
recently acquired a K3 and  the serial to USB cable to run the utility  program.
  I would like to try digital -- particularly PSK31 -- which I now  do with
IC7000 and Signalink TNC. I have been using FLDIGI  satisfactorily.  My
question is whether (1) I should try to run FLDIGI with  my K3 directly through
the RS232/USB cable, (2) should I get the cable and  jumper card for K3 for
the Signalink, (3) should I get the "tridentate"  cable set to connect with
the K3  using the line-in/line-out/ptt  connections on the back?
  



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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question re digital modes

2015-11-22 Thread Don Wilhelm

The question involved the K3, not the K3S.  In the K3, there is an 
RS-232 port rather than a USB connection - no soundcard in the K3 - at 
least until the KIO3B option is available, and then more confusion will 
be present and will result in asking if the owner has the KIO3B or the 
K3 original KIO3.


Your answer is correct for the K3S, but not for the K3.
The fact that he specified a USB to serial cable instead of just a USB 
cable tells me that he has a K3.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/22/2015 3:03 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
I suggest connecting the radio to the computer via the single USB 
cable.  It handles the audio and the radio commands for CAT control.  
The SignaLink USB is not needed nor preferred in this case.  Configure 
the FLDIGI application through the various menus in the software for 
the radio using the HAMLIB menu in the application.




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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question re digital modes

2015-11-22 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX


Sorry, missed that in the subject line.

73
Bob, K4TAX

On 11/22/2015 2:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
The question involved the K3, not the K3S. 



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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question re digital modes

2015-11-22 Thread Wes (N7WS)


He said, "K3" and "Serial to USB". There is no audio on the serial port of a K3.

A K3S USB is a different story.

Steve, use the K3 Audio In/Out into the sound card of your computer directly.



On 11/22/2015 1:03 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
I suggest connecting the radio to the computer via the single USB cable.  It 
handles the audio and the radio commands for CAT control.  The SignaLink USB 
is not needed nor preferred in this case.  Configure the FLDIGI application 
through the various menus in the software for the radio using the HAMLIB menu 
in the application.


Yep, assuredly he receiver audio was being heard by the mike in the computer.

73
Bob, K4TAX

On 11/22/2015 1:33 PM, Steve via Elecraft wrote:

I think I may just be overcome by  an embarrassment of riches. I have
recently acquired a K3 and  the serial to USB cable to run the utility  program.
  I would like to try digital -- particularly PSK31 -- which I now  do with
IC7000 and Signalink TNC. I have been using FLDIGI satisfactorily.  My
question is whether (1) I should try to run FLDIGI with  my K3 directly through
the RS232/USB cable, (2) should I get the cable and  jumper card for K3 for
the Signalink, (3) should I get the "tridentate"  cable set to connect with
the K3  using the line-in/line-out/ptt  connections on the back?
  An amusing side thing: I had my K3 tuned to 14.070 upper side band and  I
booted up FLDIGI on my laptop with no physical connection between them. To my
  amazement, I saw a waterfall display and, when I placed the cursor on a
nice  strong signal, I saw decoded text. I can only assume that the laptop's
microphone was open and FLDIGI picked it up from the audio output of my
radio.  Alternatively, it may have been an occult message to me that I need to
better  understand the mechanics of digital  :-}
  TNX for any advice especially if I can understand it.  VY 73 de  W3UEC
  Stephen Dubin V.M.D., Ph. D.
Guerir quelquefois, soulager  souvent, consoler toujours.



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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question re digital modes

2015-11-22 Thread Edward R Cole

I run FLdigi to my K3 via two stereo audio cables (spkr out to K3 
line-in; line-in to k3 line-out) and a RS232/USB conversion cable for 
controlling PTT on the K3.  I use an external souncard with manual 
level adjustments (knobs) which I find handy over getting dialog 
windows in the computer to make level adjustments.  I also run 
WSJT10, WSPRx, and MAP65 so levels are different with each sw.


I am able to run all the FLdigi modes including CW, which I prefer 
keyboarding when involved in CW-eme as I can set up special scripts 
to send.  Most used digital mode is psk-31.


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
"Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
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[Elecraft] Newbie still looking for a friendly face in Orlando with a K3S

2015-11-22 Thread David Glasser

Hi
I am a real newbie searching for someone in the Orlando area (I live just south 
of Disney!) who owns a K3S and who has the patience to chat through the things 
I need to consider in setting up a shack for a soon to be acquired K3S!!
All help small or big would be greatly appreciated.
I have overcome my first hurdle by convincing our HOA to grant permission to me 
for the erection of a 30ft vertical antenna!
I can be contacted at:
glasse...@outlook.com
73's David Glasser
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[Elecraft] Newbie

2014-12-03 Thread Tim Edmonson


Thanks for letting me join.
After almost 30 years of being a ham I finally made the jump and bought a 
loaded up K2... So far all I can say is Great!!!

73 
Ka4wws
Tim Edmonson

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[Elecraft] Newbie questions

2014-09-15 Thread Urb LeJeune


I'm Urb, W1UL. Between 1949 and 2012 I was W2DEC. One of my good friends
tells people I've been a ham so long that my first call had a Roman Numeral :-)

I'm sure these two questions have been asked many times and I apologize in
advance.

Is there a simple way to get back to the default configuration on a 
K3, I have my

screwed up beyond recognition

Number two, is their a downloadable program - not necessarily free - that will
save the K3 configuration and reloading the saved configuration?

Thanks for your help.

Urb W1UL


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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie questions

2014-09-15 Thread Jay K2TTT

Urb

It is easy:
1.You can reset everything by the following:

  Power off
  Hold in shift knob while pressing power on switch unit it fully powers
up

  You will have to start over again just like you had just finished
building it - so don't so this just for grins

  If you have an older configuration file saved you can reload it and be
right back where you were when you  saved the file. The firmware
is not affected either way - kinda like a restore point in Win XP.

2.The K3 utility program available FREE on their webste will do all
that.
  I would suggest that once you do a reset as above save it with the
utility program so you can always   undo what you done did
 

73

K2TTT (Jay)C6ATT

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie questions

2014-09-15 Thread Mike Flowers

Hi Urb,

Jay is quite correct.  The latest K3 Utility Program is here:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, President - NCDXC, IDXC 2015, W6NAG, IDXG,
ADXG, RRC #933, K3-P3-KPA500-KAT500 Addict, Maui


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jay
K2TTT
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 10:06 AM
To: 'Urb LeJeune'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Newbie questions

Urb

It is easy:
1.You can reset everything by the following:

  Power off
  Hold in shift knob while pressing power on switch unit it fully powers
up

  You will have to start over again just like you had just finished
building it - so don't so this just for grins

  If you have an older configuration file saved you can reload it and be
right back where you were when you  saved the file. The firmware
is not affected either way - kinda like a restore point in Win XP.

2.The K3 utility program available FREE on their webste will do all
that.
  I would suggest that once you do a reset as above save it with the
utility program so you can always   undo what you done did
 

73

K2TTT (Jay)C6ATT

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie questions

2014-09-15 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Also, if your K3 was factory built and is not one of the earlier units shipped, 
we usually have the original factory config file recorded here. Contact 
supp...@elecraft.com and they can help you out.


Eric
elecraft.com

On 9/15/2014 10:18 AM, Mike Flowers wrote:

Hi Urb,

Jay is quite correct.  The latest K3 Utility Program is here:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, President - NCDXC, IDXC 2015, W6NAG, IDXG,
ADXG, RRC #933, K3-P3-KPA500-KAT500 Addict, Maui


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K2TTT
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 10:06 AM
To: 'Urb LeJeune'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Newbie questions

Urb

It is easy:
1.You can reset everything by the following:

   Power off
   Hold in shift knob while pressing power on switch unit it fully powers
up

   You will have to start over again just like you had just finished
building it - so don't so this just for grins

   If you have an older configuration file saved you can reload it and be
right back where you were when you  saved the file. The firmware
is not affected either way - kinda like a restore point in Win XP.

2.The K3 utility program available FREE on their webste will do all
that.
   I would suggest that once you do a reset as above save it with the
utility program so you can always   undo what you done did
  


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[Elecraft] ELECRAFT Newbie

2014-06-25 Thread w1dwz w1dwz

I am quite interested in seeing what all this  interest in ELECRAFT  line
of QRP transceivers is all about.
I am  60 yrs in Ham Radio ,and would like to hve some help in
obtaining  one   suitable to my needs   .  Like  QRP'ing ,  portable
operating  .  If anyone has  something for sale that would suit my needs as
a   beginner  with ELECRAFT,  please write.  I wud prefer a K1 or K2 maybe
,   with possibleup grade  options for  SSB   , keyer  ,5W  OK but
10 maybe preferred  ,  like  80 /  75 / 40 / 15  meters  .  Senior
Citizen   with limited radio budget but wud love to see what these things
are all abt.
Write if you   hv something that u think wud be of interest to me
Dave  W1DWZ  in RI. 401  297-0361or:
w1...@fullchannel.net
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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT Newbie

2014-06-25 Thread Jim Wiley


Dave -

Do you feel up to building a kit?  The K2 is a good radiofor this 
experience. You can start small, with the 10-15 watt base CW only 
transceiver, adding modules and functions  (SSB, noise blanker, 
automatic antenna coupler, 100-watt amplifierstage, etc.) as time and 
budget permit.  But the important thing is, the K2 doesn't give away 
much of anything to bigger (and more costly) units.  Its performance is 
top notch (verified by any number of test reports from professional 
labs), and it hasthe distinct advantage of being a rig that the average 
ham can still fix by himself.  Add to that the world class technical and 
factory support, and you've got a winner.   I am sure may others on this 
reflector will agree.


If you don't feel up to a kit, there are even fellows on here that will 
build it for you for a nominal fee, and the end result is a truly 
professional job.



- Jim, KL7CC


On 6/25/2014 5:38 AM, w1dwz w1dwz wrote:

I am quite interested in seeing what all this interest in ELECRAFT line 
of QRP transceivers is all about. I am 60 yrs in Ham Radio , and would 
like to hve some help in obtaining one suitable to my needs .

I like QRP'ing , portable operating .

If anyone has something for sale that would suit my needs as a beginner 
with ELECRAFT, please write.


I wud prefer a K1 or K2 maybe , with possible up grade options for SSB , 
keyer , 5W OK but 10 maybe preferred , like 80 / 75 / 40 / 15 meters .


Senior Citizen with limited radio budget but wud love to see what these 
things are all abt.


Write if you hv something that u think wud be of interest to me

Dave W1DWZ

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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT Newbie

2014-06-25 Thread Chip Stratton

You can often find a used K2 on ebay or preferably on this list for
substantially less than the kit price. Ebay may be a riskier proposition.
Still, you can probably fix minor problems yourself if you are so inclined.

Many are selling their K2 rigs having bought a KX3, but I still use mine
despite having a KX3

73
Chip
Ae5ka

On Wednesday, June 25, 2014, Jim Wiley jwi...@gci.net wrote:

 Dave -

 Do you feel up to building a kit?  The K2 is a good radiofor this
 experience. You can start small, with the 10-15 watt base CW only
 transceiver, adding modules and functions  (SSB, noise blanker, automatic
 antenna coupler, 100-watt amplifierstage, etc.) as time and budget permit.
  But the important thing is, the K2 doesn't give away much of anything to
 bigger (and more costly) units.  Its performance is top notch (verified by
 any number of test reports from professional labs), and it hasthe distinct
 advantage of being a rig that the average ham can still fix by himself.
  Add to that the world class technical and factory support, and you've got
 a winner.   I am sure may others on this reflector will agree.

 If you don't feel up to a kit, there are even fellows on here that will
 build it for you for a nominal fee, and the end result is a truly
 professional job.


 - Jim, KL7CC


 On 6/25/2014 5:38 AM, w1dwz w1dwz wrote:

 I am quite interested in seeing what all this interest in ELECRAFT line of
 QRP transceivers is all about. I am 60 yrs in Ham Radio , and would like to
 hve some help in obtaining one suitable to my needs .
 I like QRP'ing , portable operating .

 If anyone has something for sale that would suit my needs as a beginner
 with ELECRAFT, please write.

 I wud prefer a K1 or K2 maybe , with possible up grade options for SSB ,
 keyer , 5W OK but 10 maybe preferred , like 80 / 75 / 40 / 15 meters .

 Senior Citizen with limited radio budget but wud love to see what these
 things are all abt.

 Write if you hv something that u think wud be of interest to me

 Dave W1DWZ

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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT Newbie

2014-06-25 Thread Phil Hystad

Also, to catch a K2 sale here on this Elecraft list you must be quick and check
all the time.  I don't recall seeing a posted K2 for-sale message that has gone
unanswered with a buy that very same day.  Sure that probably happens but
it might be more rare.

73, phil, K7PEH

On Jun 25, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Chip Stratton c...@strattonfamily.us wrote:

 You can often find a used K2 on ebay or preferably on this list for
 substantially less than the kit price. Ebay may be a riskier proposition.
 Still, you can probably fix minor problems yourself if you are so inclined.
 
 Many are selling their K2 rigs having bought a KX3, but I still use mine
 despite having a KX3
 
 73
 Chip
 Ae5ka
 
 On Wednesday, June 25, 2014, Jim Wiley jwi...@gci.net wrote:
 
 Dave -
 
 Do you feel up to building a kit?  The K2 is a good radiofor this
 experience. You can start small, with the 10-15 watt base CW only
 transceiver, adding modules and functions  (SSB, noise blanker, automatic
 antenna coupler, 100-watt amplifierstage, etc.) as time and budget permit.
 But the important thing is, the K2 doesn't give away much of anything to
 bigger (and more costly) units.  Its performance is top notch (verified by
 any number of test reports from professional labs), and it hasthe distinct
 advantage of being a rig that the average ham can still fix by himself.
 Add to that the world class technical and factory support, and you've got
 a winner.   I am sure may others on this reflector will agree.
 
 If you don't feel up to a kit, there are even fellows on here that will
 build it for you for a nominal fee, and the end result is a truly
 professional job.
 
 
 - Jim, KL7CC
 
 
 On 6/25/2014 5:38 AM, w1dwz w1dwz wrote:
 
 I am quite interested in seeing what all this interest in ELECRAFT line of
 QRP transceivers is all about. I am 60 yrs in Ham Radio , and would like to
 hve some help in obtaining one suitable to my needs .
 I like QRP'ing , portable operating .
 
 If anyone has something for sale that would suit my needs as a beginner
 with ELECRAFT, please write.
 
 I wud prefer a K1 or K2 maybe , with possible up grade options for SSB ,
 keyer , 5W OK but 10 maybe preferred , like 80 / 75 / 40 / 15 meters .
 
 Senior Citizen with limited radio budget but wud love to see what these
 things are all abt.
 
 Write if you hv something that u think wud be of interest to me
 
 Dave W1DWZ
 
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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT Newbie

2014-06-25 Thread Don Wilhelm


Dave,

For portable QRP operation, I would suggest that the KX3 is the optimum 
solution.
It is all-mode, 160 through 6 meter coverage, and is rated at the top of 
the Sherwood listing for receive performance.  It is available either 
factory built or as a no-solder kit.


If that is out of your current radio budget, then I would suggest the K2 
as the 2nd choice.  Yes, it is a kit that you need to assemble from the 
basic resistors, capacitors, ICs and transistors. The basic K2 covers 80 
thru 10 meters, CW only, but options can be added for 160 meter 
coverage, SSB, automatic antenna tuner, as well as other functions such 
as the noise blanker and either audio DSP or an audio filter.  Even 
though it is a 15 year old design, it is still rated quite high on the 
Sherwood listings.  The nice thing about the K2 is that you can build 
the basic K2 and add options as your ham budget recovers later.


All Elecraft transceivers have a built in keyer.

I would have suggested the K1, but you specified SSB operation and 80 
meters.  The K1 will do 80 meters, but that band must be built on a 2 
band board.  There is a 4 band board available, but it covers 40, 30, 20 
and your choice of 17 or 15 meters.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/25/2014 9:38 AM, w1dwz w1dwz wrote:

I am quite interested in seeing what all this  interest in ELECRAFT  line
of QRP transceivers is all about.
I am  60 yrs in Ham Radio ,and would like to hve some help in
obtaining  one   suitable to my needs   .  Like  QRP'ing ,  portable
operating  .  If anyone has  something for sale that would suit my needs as
a   beginner  with ELECRAFT,  please write.  I wud prefer a K1 or K2 maybe
,   with possibleup grade  options for  SSB   , keyer  ,5W  OK but
10 maybe preferred  ,  like  80 /  75 / 40 / 15  meters  .  Senior
Citizen   with limited radio budget but wud love to see what these things
are all abt.
Write if you   hv something that u think wud be of interest to me
Dave  W1DWZ  in RI. 401  297-0361or:
w1...@fullchannel.net



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[Elecraft] Newbie Dave Happy New Year Elecraft KX3 WOW moment!

2014-01-01 Thread Esquer Dave

Hi folks,

Newbie Dave, K6WDE, here with my KX3 WOW moment. 

Late yesterday afternoon, New Year’s Eve, I spotted and heard KC4AAA 
broadcasting on 20 meters from the AMUNDSEN-SCOTT SOUTH POLE STATION.

Obviously, there was a hugh pile-up for quite some time. I listened and 
listened. There were lots of big guns repeatedly calling to/over him and 
others. Some folks got through. This South Pole operator’s patience was truly 
amazing. He was cool and collective and took his time to work those that got 
through. He was a total professional in my book moving quickly through the pile 
up. I tried calling, but with the big guns, there was no joy.

After dinner, I tuned in again and he had decided to move to calling by the 
numbers. He worked the 4s, 5s and finally 6s.

Throwing out my call sign, imagine my surprise when he answered back with a 55 
signal report. I informed him of my QRP station and we exchanged 73s and Happy 
New Year greetings. I was the last 6 he picked up before he moved onto the 7s. 
Other comments from operators stated they had waited for 2 hours plus to make 
the QSO.

I have owned my KX3, serial number 4599, since June of 2013. My setup is 
simple, my KX3 and a switchable LNR vertical/inverted-L 66’ EFHW and a 
horizontal 51’ long wire with a 9:1 Balun Design UNUN. I picked up the SP on 
the horizontal. I am fortunate, I do live at 6,200 feet on a ridge overlooking 
the SoCal inland empire.

My Elecraft is the one and only HF rig I own. Elecraft equipment rocks, one 
happy newbie customer and HF operator here!

Happy New 2014 all,
Dave, K6WDE




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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie ....

2012-11-25 Thread Sandy

NO!  You can remove the 40-15 board and then plug the 80/17 board in and 
replace the KAT1 tuner.  Don't forget the reprogram the two new bands and 
you are in business.  If you need to work anything on 40 thru 15, then you 
have to change the RF board again and reprogram the CPU again for the new 
4 bands again.   The reprogramming instructions are in the user's manual and 
easy to do after you do it once or twice.


I have a K1 that has two extra 2 band boards.  One covers 160 and 80, and 
one that covers 80 and 40.  The 80/40 band is the board that usually gets 
used most.  My 4 band board is setup for 40, 30, 20, and 15 like yours.  You 
will enjoy the K1 very much.  I didn't get the internal battery option 
because I didn't like the smaller loudspeaker.  I usually have a 10 battery 
box for 2 ampere/hour NiMH cells externally'


Have fun!

73,
Sandy W5TVW
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To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Newbie 

I have a K1 with 40 , 30 , 20 and 15 with the ATU and battery pack. Would 
there be room for the 2 band board with 80 and 17 ??? Looks mighty crowded 
in there !!!


73 es tnx !!!

George Osier , N2JNZ
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[Elecraft] Newbie ....

2012-11-24 Thread gosier

I have a K1 with 40 , 30 , 20 and 15 with the ATU and battery pack. Would there 
be room for the 2 band board with 80 and 17 ??? Looks mighty crowded in there 
!!!

73 es tnx !!!

George Osier , N2JNZ 
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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie ....

2012-11-24 Thread Hjalmar Duklæt


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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie ....

2012-11-24 Thread Ingo Meyer, DK3RED


Hello George,


I have a K1 with 40 , 30 , 20 and 15 with the ATU and battery pack. Would there 
be room for the 2 band board with 80 and 17 ??? Looks mighty crowded in there 
!!!


Yes it is, if you change the 4-band modul with the 2-band modul. There is no 
other way.
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-20 Thread N4OI - Ken

KF9QL wrote
 [...] so that I can use an LP-PAN and external monitor. [...] TB73, de
 KF9QL  

One suggestion: you may want to consider the P3 (and if you really want the
big screen, include the P3SVGA) instead of the LP-PAN.  I assembled the
K3/100 and P3 combo a couple of weeks ago and all I can say is, I was blind
and now I see.  The nice thing about the P3 is that it feels like an
extension of the K3 and vice versa.  Its not like the P3 controls are trying
to replace those on the K3 front panel, they merely augment them -- very
smooth and intuitive.  

I looked hard at the LP-PAN alternative and decided that I wanted to keep my
PC for logging and spotting -- not for controlling my radio.  I am very
pleased with my K3 - P3 setup!

73 ES GOD BLESS U ES URS DE KEN N4OI 
K1, K3, P3





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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-20 Thread tom betka

Right...good points. I ordered the module needed to support either the P3 or
the LP-PAN, but I didn't make the final decision just yet. But still, the
LP-PAN wouldn't be a bad way to go for less money, and then just add the
monitor to another video card. The monitor would be needed for the P3 anyway,
and I have an extra video card. So a guy might just try it with the LP-PAN at
first, and then upgrade to the P3 later, if the spirit moves him...
Thanks for the post.
TB

Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:17:17 -0700
From: ke...@roadrunner.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

KF9QL wrote
[...] so that I can use an LP-PAN and external monitor. [...] TB73, de
KF9QL

One suggestion: you may want to consider the P3 (and if you really want the
big screen, include the P3SVGA) instead of the LP-PAN. I assembled the
K3/100 and P3 combo a couple of weeks ago and all I can say is, I was blind
and now I see. The nice thing about the P3 is that it feels like an
extension of the K3 and vice versa. Its not like the P3 controls are trying
to replace those on the K3 front panel, they merely augment them -- very
smooth and intuitive.

I looked hard at the LP-PAN alternative and decided that I wanted to keep my
PC for logging and spotting -- not for controlling my radio. I am very
pleased with my K3 - P3 setup!

73 ES GOD BLESS U ES URS DE KEN N4OI
K1, K3, P3

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-20 Thread Gary K9GS

Hello Tom,

I went back and forth on this toobuy a P3 and SVGA adapter or an LP-Pan.

I finally decided to go the P3 route for several reasons:

1) It's self contained and I don't have to tie up the shack computer
running another application. I already have two monitors on the shack
PC and screen real estate is already an issue sometimes. Putting LP-Pan
into that mix just complicates things too much.

2) The LP-Pan requires a high end sound card for maximum performance.
I'd have to add the cost of that into the equation.

3) My shack computer is more than adequate for ham radio purposes,
logging program, telnet for packetcluster, etc. If I went the LP-Pan
route, however, I'd probably need to upgrade the computer. That's a big
additional expense and headache just to use the LP-Pan. If you throw
digital modes into the mix, say for a RTTY contest, you're putting a lot
of processing burden on one computer.

4) Several friends have K3's and P3's and they rave about themthe
integration with the K3 is flawless.

So, I plan on buying a P3, SVGA adapter and a big dedicated monitor in
the near future. In the end you have to decide and do what's best for
your particular situation.

On 10/20/2012 11:10 AM, tom betka wrote:
Right...good points. I ordered the module needed to support either the P3 or
the LP-PAN, but I didn't make the final decision just yet. But still, the
LP-PAN wouldn't be a bad way to go for less money, and then just add the
monitor to another video card. The monitor would be needed for the P3 anyway,
and I have an extra video card. So a guy might just try it with the LP-PAN at
first, and then upgrade to the P3 later, if the spirit moves him...
Thanks for the post.
TB

Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:17:17 -0700
From: ke...@roadrunner.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

KF9QL wrote
[...] so that I can use an LP-PAN and external monitor. [...] TB73, de
KF9QL
One suggestion: you may want to consider the P3 (and if you really want the
big screen, include the P3SVGA) instead of the LP-PAN. I assembled the
K3/100 and P3 combo a couple of weeks ago and all I can say is, I was blind
and now I see. The nice thing about the P3 is that it feels like an
extension of the K3 and vice versa. Its not like the P3 controls are trying
to replace those on the K3 front panel, they merely augment them -- very
smooth and intuitive.

I looked hard at the LP-PAN alternative and decided that I wanted to keep my
PC for logging and spotting -- not for controlling my radio. I am very
pleased with my K3 - P3 setup!

73 ES GOD BLESS U ES URS DE KEN N4OI
K1, K3, P3

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-20 Thread george fritkin

Yesterday I had a personal demo at Elecraft by Paul, their P3 engineer of the 
P3 SVGA.  All I have to say is WOW  Why would anybody, with a K3, consider 
anything else.

George, W6GF

Love my 2 K3s and my KX3 S/N 0123




 From: Gary K9GS garyk...@wi.rr.com
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3
 
Hello Tom,

I went back and forth on this toobuy a P3 and SVGA adapter or an LP-Pan.

I finally decided to go the P3 route for several reasons:

1)  It's self contained and I don't have to tie up the shack computer 
running another application.  I already have two monitors on the shack 
PC and screen real estate is already an issue sometimes.  Putting LP-Pan 
into that mix just complicates things too much.

2)  The LP-Pan requires a high end sound card for maximum performance.  
I'd have to add the cost of that into the equation.

3)  My shack computer is more than adequate for ham radio purposes, 
logging program, telnet for packetcluster, etc.  If I went the LP-Pan 
route, however, I'd probably need to upgrade the computer. That's a big 
additional expense and headache just to use the LP-Pan.  If you throw 
digital modes into the mix, say for a RTTY contest, you're putting a lot 
of processing burden on one computer.

4)  Several friends have K3's and P3's and they rave about themthe 
integration with the K3 is flawless.

So, I plan on buying a P3, SVGA adapter and a big dedicated monitor in 
the near future.  In the end you have to decide and do what's best for 
your particular situation.


On 10/20/2012 11:10 AM, tom betka wrote:
 Right...good points. I ordered the module needed to support either the P3 or 
 the LP-PAN, but I didn't make the final decision just yet. But still, the 
 LP-PAN wouldn't be a bad way to go for less money, and then just add the 
 monitor to another video card. The monitor would be needed for the P3 anyway, 
 and I have an extra video card. So a guy might just try it with the LP-PAN at 
 first, and then upgrade to the P3 later, if the spirit moves him...
 Thanks for the post.
 TB

 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:17:17 -0700
 From: ke...@roadrunner.com
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

 KF9QL wrote
 [...] so that I can use an LP-PAN and external monitor. [...] TB73, de
 KF9QL
 One suggestion: you may want to consider the P3 (and if you really want the
 big screen, include the P3SVGA) instead of the LP-PAN.  I assembled the
 K3/100 and P3 combo a couple of weeks ago and all I can say is, I was blind
 and now I see.  The nice thing about the P3 is that it feels like an
 extension of the K3 and vice versa.  Its not like the P3 controls are trying
 to replace those on the K3 front panel, they merely augment them -- very
 smooth and intuitive.

 I looked hard at the LP-PAN alternative and decided that I wanted to keep my
 PC for logging and spotting -- not for controlling my radio.  I am very
 pleased with my K3 - P3 setup!

 73 ES GOD BLESS U ES URS DE KEN N4OI
 K1, K3, P3





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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-20 Thread tom betka

Dwight (NS9I) showed me his LP-PAN set-up this past week, and it's very nice
indeed. I would have absolutely no problem going with that either. I was
advised by David at Elecraft that the K3 module needed (I forgot the part
number) is needed regardless if you go with the LP-PAN or the P3 itself...so I
figured that I really couldn't go wrong either way. So I just ordered the
module for the K3 and will install it. I have a Mackie 1640 Onyx firewire sound
board, and that will work just fine as a sound interface. So either way, I'm
good. I just have bigger fish to fry right now, with the radio itself and then
installing a zero-five 30' flag pole antenna in the yard and running the coax
and ground radial system. The P3 vs LP-PAN contest will have to wait a couple
months, lol.
The P3 looks brilliant though, with that external monitor. Very impressive
indeed!
TB

Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:58:12 -0700
From: georgefrit...@yahoo.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

Yesterday I had a personal demo at Elecraft by Paul, their P3 engineer of the
P3 SVGA. All I have to say is WOW Why would anybody, with a K3,
consider anything else.

George, W6GF

Love my 2 K3s and my KX3 S/N 0123

From: Gary K9GS garyk...@wi.rr.com
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

Hello Tom,

I went back and forth on this toobuy a P3 and SVGA adapter or an LP-Pan.

I finally decided to go the P3 route for several reasons:

2) The LP-Pan requires a high end sound card for maximum performance.
I'd have to add the cost of that into the equation.

4) Several friends have K3's and P3's and they rave about themthe
integration with the K3 is flawless.

So, I plan on buying a P3, SVGA adapter and a big dedicated monitor in
the near future. In the end you have to decide and do what's best for
your particular situation.

On 10/20/2012 11:10 AM, tom betka wrote:
Right...good points. I ordered the module needed to support either the P3
or the LP-PAN, but I didn't make the final decision just yet. But still,
the LP-PAN wouldn't be a bad way to go for less money, and then just add
the monitor to another video card. The monitor would be needed for the P3
anyway, and I have an extra video card. So a guy might just try it with the
LP-PAN at first, and then upgrade to the P3 later, if the spirit moves
him...
Thanks for the post.
TB

Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 08:17:17 -0700
From: ke...@roadrunner.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

KF9QL wrote
[...] so that I can use an LP-PAN and external monitor. [...] TB73, de
KF9QL
One suggestion: you may want to consider the P3 (and if you really want the
big screen, include the P3SVGA) instead of the LP-PAN. I assembled the
K3/100 and P3 combo a couple of weeks ago and all I can say is, I was
blind
and now I see. The nice thing about the P3 is that it feels like an
extension of the K3 and vice versa. Its not like the P3 controls are
trying
to replace those on the K3 front panel, they merely augment them -- very
smooth and intuitive.

I looked hard at the LP-PAN alternative and decided that I wanted to keep
my
PC for logging and spotting -- not for controlling my radio. I am very
pleased with my K3 - P3 setup!

73 ES GOD BLESS U ES URS DE KEN N4OI
K1, K3, P3

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-19 Thread tom betka


Thanks to all who responded to my thread earlier this week. With your help 
(especially Dwight, NS9I whose incredible shack I visited the other day), and 
after a few conversations with David Shoaf at Elecraft, I have decided on a K3. 
I finalized and placed the order today for the K3/100 unit, along with the 
internal antenna tuner and the IF module so that I can use an LP-PAN and 
external monitor. All that is left now is to arrange transfer of the funds, and 
the thing should get shipped to me next week...with luck. I have a few things 
to do on my end anyway, as I don't even have an antenna mounted yet. So it will 
be a couple weeks before I am on the air anyway--but I'll get there soon 
enough. I have waited 8-10 years to get back into HAM radio, so another 
couple of weeks isn't the end of the world by any means. 
On another note, I recently received a set of the Gordon West Extra Class 
course materials, and have started studying for the upgrade. I've been studying 
electronics for the past month or two anyway, so with any luck I'll get 
prepared for the Extra class upgrade by the end of the year as well.
Anyway, just wanted to again say thanks for all the opinions rendered by you 
folks. This newsgroup (reflector) is an excellent resource, and I plan to keep 
hanging out and learning!
TB73, de KF9QL
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread tom betka


I think that paddle might be affordable as well. Once I get the radio up and 
going with an antenna here, then that would be the next step. The stuff I was 
talking about was a paddle from Elecraft, and a couple of the other filters as 
recommended on their site. I could indeed afford the antenna tuner and the 100w 
amp in the initial purchase, although not much more than that right now. But I 
think the list I provided would be a good start, although I would try to add a 
2m module and a P3 in 2013.
Thanks for the post.
TB

Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:39:37 +1100
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3
From: vk2...@gmail.com
To: tcbe...@hotmail.com
CC: phys...@mac.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Hi Tom,

What are this CW stuff you are talking about below? If it is narrow roofing 
filters for CW, then I think you can definitely leave these off until later, 
and just rely on the K3 DSP filtering for now. I think the only thing you 
really need to add to a basic K3 in order to do CW is a paddle. I suggest the 
Bencher BY-1 is a good entry-level paddle that is inexpensive but works FB. By 
adding the 100W amp now, it will be easier to make contacts and build your CW 
skills.


If you are thinking of getting a K3, then grab a copy of Fred Cady's ebook on 
the K3 from Lulu (it is cheap, especially if you use one of the readily 
available discount vouchers).

73, Matt VK2ACL


  
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread Ignacy

I own both K3 and KX3.

K3 is mature radio. Works very well. But the design is a few years old. 

KX3 is new radio with new design. Not mature. For instance, it has
capability for extra receiver + digital work out of I/Q lines, but the
software is not quite available or reliable yet. NB and NR are work in
progress. Speech processor is not yet as good as in K3. The contest programs
cannot easily send CW without extra hardware (with exceptions).  etc, etc.
But with ALS-600 modified for low drive, one can add 600W to KX3 for $1k
(used price).
 
IMHO, KX3 will look much more refined in a year. 

Ignacy
 



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread Fred Smith

I have thought about this for several days and considering what you want in
a radio at this point and being you will have but a single one starting out.
I think the choice is fairly clear cut and it would be in favor of the K3
because you need a stable platform for use at home and in a Motor Home both
easy for a K3 and it has 100w now when needed. The interfaces give you more
choices now than the KX3 and I think that your need for a total QRP portable
rig comes second at this time. It may very well be needed later down the
road for testing of some of your devices and software but for development
the K3 would be a plus in my opinion.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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I own both K3 and KX3.

K3 is mature radio. Works very well. But the design is a few years old. 

KX3 is new radio with new design. Not mature. For instance, it has
capability for extra receiver + digital work out of I/Q lines, but the
software is not quite available or reliable yet. NB and NR are work in
progress. Speech processor is not yet as good as in K3. The contest programs
cannot easily send CW without extra hardware (with exceptions).  etc, etc.
But with ALS-600 modified for low drive, one can add 600W to KX3 for $1k
(used price).
 
IMHO, KX3 will look much more refined in a year. 

Ignacy
 



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread Edward R Cole

Tom,

I own both radios.  I bought my K3/10 two years ago and have had a 
good time running 12w SSB with it.  Surprising many when I tell them 
I am only running 12w.  I can check into the Elecraft net fairly well 
with that.  IN the last year I have built a 300w PA kit and can run 
270w out on 20m with 12w drive from either of my radios and that 
makes my signal get thru every time.  I should mention I run a 
3-element triband yagi which does not hurt.

You will like the K3 for digital modes and should opt for it, in my 
opinion.  I got the transverter interface and second Rx along with 
three filters for FM, SSB, and CW.  I added the TCXO-3 and later the 
EXREF for super accurate frequency.  Those are important for some of 
the narrowband digital modes like WSPR and JT65.

I am getting some experience with my KX3 mainly on 2m using a 
modified 144-28 transverter (I added a PLL synth LO so I could 
operate over the full 144-148 band by switching LO freq. and 
installed a 13w RF module which drives nicely with 3w from the 
KX3).  Eventually Elecraft will offer a 2m transverter module and 
100w PA for the KX3 which turns it into a decent mobile radio.  The 
K3 will work fine for mobile in a RV, though.

After having both radios I would not part with my K3.  The KX3 would 
make a fine starter radio had it been available when I bought the K3, 
but the K3 shines for running 600m thru mw from home.  Previous 
radios were a FT-847 and FT-817, respectively, and the Elecraft 
radios run circles around the old radios.

73, Ed - KL7UW

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread Bob Stephens

Ed, what PA kit did you build?

73 de AF9W

Bob
KX3 #1736

On Oct 17, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:

 Tom,
 
 I own both radios.  I bought my K3/10 two years ago and have had a 
 good time running 12w SSB with it.  Surprising many when I tell them 
 I am only running 12w.  I can check into the Elecraft net fairly well 
 with that.  IN the last year I have built a 300w PA kit and can run 
 270w out on 20m with 12w drive from either of my radios and that 
 makes my signal get thru every time.  I should mention I run a 
 3-element triband yagi which does not hurt.
 
 You will like the K3 for digital modes and should opt for it, in my 
 opinion.  I got the transverter interface and second Rx along with 
 three filters for FM, SSB, and CW.  I added the TCXO-3 and later the 
 EXREF for super accurate frequency.  Those are important for some of 
 the narrowband digital modes like WSPR and JT65.
 
 I am getting some experience with my KX3 mainly on 2m using a 
 modified 144-28 transverter (I added a PLL synth LO so I could 
 operate over the full 144-148 band by switching LO freq. and 
 installed a 13w RF module which drives nicely with 3w from the 
 KX3).  Eventually Elecraft will offer a 2m transverter module and 
 100w PA for the KX3 which turns it into a decent mobile radio.  The 
 K3 will work fine for mobile in a RV, though.
 
 After having both radios I would not part with my K3.  The KX3 would 
 make a fine starter radio had it been available when I bought the K3, 
 but the K3 shines for running 600m thru mw from home.  Previous 
 radios were a FT-847 and FT-817, respectively, and the Elecraft 
 radios run circles around the old radios.
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread dw

Hi Tom,
I'm still running a barefoot K2 (cw only) with an amp I can add on when
needed.
After reading your last post (below) I agree with you that is sounds
like good logic to outfit yourself with a radio that you can immediately
have fun with.
So the SSB mode and additional CW mode sounds like it would support that
well.
On the question of whether to have more than QRP wattage, I can only
relate that I love to see the K2 working a station barefoot.
However, there are those times when I've connected with a station that
I'm really excited about, and that station is struggling to get reliable
copy.
Its wonderful at times like that to be able to flip a switch and bring
up my signal.
I had just that situation the other night and the station thanked me for
turning on the amp.
It might set your wallet back a little on the temporary.
But when you have it, you may be glad you opted for the 100-watts up
front.  :)

Duane - N1BBR 




Message: 13
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:27:13 -0500
From: tom betka tcbe...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3
To: phys...@mac.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: snt118-w52fab9867910fe313113e5a1...@phx.gbl
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1


Thanks Phil...
I agree that the K3 does indeed seem like the way to go at this point,
and the extra $$ is probably money well-spent. But that leaves me with
another dilemma...how to outfit the K3?
Here's the basic order I came up with today. After talking David at
Elecraft, I added the 100w power amplifier which kicks price up $450.
But my question...is that really needed at first. I guess David's point
(which seemed very valid when we talked) was that I should spend the
extra money on the 100w amp, instead of some stuff for CW that I was
going to opt for instead. I have never really practiced much CW to be
honest, and would like to learn it. However David advised that it would
be more important to get phone up  running, and working well--and THEN
add on CW in the future. After considering his advice more today I think
it's very sound indeed--and therefore was probably looking at this build
list:

Elecraft K3
item#   item descriptionunit
price-K3/100
  K3 100W Xcvr. (Modular Kit) $1999.95(10w =
1549.95)KUSB Univ. Ser Bus Adapt.   
$39.95KXSER K144XV Serial Cable free   
MH3 MH3 Hand Mic$59.95 
KAT3Internal Tuner 
$299.95===  
   TOTAL  $2399.80   (10w = $1949.80)

Although it's a bit more than I was planning to spend initially, the
100-watt amp is an affordable add-on in the initial build. So it would
be do-able. For comparison, if I were to go with a KX3 and leave off the
CW components, the gear would come in at just under $1350--but of course
that doesn't include a 100-watt amplifier, as they are not yet available
for that radio. So it really isn't an apples-to-apples comparison at
all...unless you simply consider the 10-watt K3 build. In that case it
would be about $600 more for the K3, and I think it's been
well-established that this extra money would be well-spent given that
this would be my only HF rig.
Anyway, I'll hopefully be looking at Duane's K3 tomorrow if all goes
well. Then I can make the final decision after that, and get moving.
Thanks again to everyone for the advice. It's very reassuring to draw on
the wealth of experience that's so obvious in the users here.

Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread tom betka

Yea, I think the sentiment has been pretty overwhelming that the extra $450 
would be money very well-spent at this point. So that's a given it seems...

Thanks for the post.

TB

 From: bw...@fastmail.fm
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:57:20 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

 Hi Tom,
 I'm still running a barefoot K2 (cw only) with an amp I can add on when
 needed.
 After reading your last post (below) I agree with you that is sounds
 like good logic to outfit yourself with a radio that you can immediately
 have fun with.
 So the SSB mode and additional CW mode sounds like it would support that
 well.
 On the question of whether to have more than QRP wattage, I can only
 relate that I love to see the K2 working a station barefoot.
 However, there are those times when I've connected with a station that
 I'm really excited about, and that station is struggling to get reliable
 copy.
 Its wonderful at times like that to be able to flip a switch and bring
 up my signal.
 I had just that situation the other night and the station thanked me for
 turning on the amp.
 It might set your wallet back a little on the temporary.
 But when you have it, you may be glad you opted for the 100-watts up
 front.  :)

 Duane - N1BBR 

 Message: 13
 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:27:13 -0500
 From: tom betka tcbe...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3
 To: phys...@mac.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Message-ID: snt118-w52fab9867910fe313113e5a1...@phx.gbl
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Thanks Phil...
 I agree that the K3 does indeed seem like the way to go at this point,
 and the extra $$ is probably money well-spent. But that leaves me with
 another dilemma...how to outfit the K3?
 Here's the basic order I came up with today. After talking David at
 Elecraft, I added the 100w power amplifier which kicks price up $450.
 But my question...is that really needed at first. I guess David's point
 (which seemed very valid when we talked) was that I should spend the
 extra money on the 100w amp, instead of some stuff for CW that I was
 going to opt for instead. I have never really practiced much CW to be
 honest, and would like to learn it. However David advised that it would
 be more important to get phone up  running, and working well--and THEN
 add on CW in the future. After considering his advice more today I think
 it's very sound indeed--and therefore was probably looking at this build
 list:

 Elecraft K3
 item#   item descriptionunit
 price-K3/100
   K3 100W Xcvr. (Modular Kit) $1999.95(10w =
 1549.95)KUSB Univ. Ser Bus Adapt.   
 $39.95KXSER K144XV Serial Cable free   
 MH3 MH3 Hand Mic$59.95 
 KAT3Internal Tuner 
 $299.95===  
TOTAL  $2399.80   (10w = $1949.80)

 Although it's a bit more than I was planning to spend initially, the
 100-watt amp is an affordable add-on in the initial build. So it would
 be do-able. For comparison, if I were to go with a KX3 and leave off the
 CW components, the gear would come in at just under $1350--but of course
 that doesn't include a 100-watt amplifier, as they are not yet available
 for that radio. So it really isn't an apples-to-apples comparison at
 all...unless you simply consider the 10-watt K3 build. In that case it
 would be about $600 more for the K3, and I think it's been
 well-established that this extra money would be well-spent given that
 this would be my only HF rig.
 Anyway, I'll hopefully be looking at Duane's K3 tomorrow if all goes
 well. Then I can make the final decision after that, and get moving.
 Thanks again to everyone for the advice. It's very reassuring to draw on
 the wealth of experience that's so obvious in the users here.

 Tom
 -- 
  bw...@fastmail.net

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread Matt Maguire


On 18/10/2012, at 1:06 AM, Ignacy n...@arrl.net wrote:

 I own both K3 and KX3.
 
 K3 is mature radio. Works very well. But the design is a few years old. 
 
 KX3 is new radio with new design.
 ...
 The contest programs
 cannot easily send CW without extra hardware (with exceptions).

I actually used N1MM with the KX3 in the Oceania DX CW contest last weekend 
(and in the 
Oceania DX SSB contest the weekend before). It was the first time I had used a 
contesting program to generate CW, and I discovered that N1MM is a powerful 
program. To get it to work with the KX3, all that was required was a trivial 
circuit with just a single transistor and single resistor, which is pretty 
easy. In the end I'll probably get a Winkeyer or similar, but the simple 
transistor interface was a quick and easy way to get on the air and give 
automated CW contesting a go. 

73, Matt VK2ACL
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread tom betka


Hi Duane,

Yes, I agree about the 100-watt amplifier option. A guy wouldn't have to use it 
if it wasn't needed, but if it is needed it will sure be nice to have it. So it 
indeed seems to be a prudent investment at this point, even if it adds more to 
the initial cost than I initially planned. I guess it also saves the trouble of 
adding it in later...

Thanks for the post.

TB

 From: bw...@fastmail.fm
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:57:20 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3
 
 Hi Tom,
 I'm still running a barefoot K2 (cw only) with an amp I can add on when
 needed.
 After reading your last post (below) I agree with you that is sounds
 like good logic to outfit yourself with a radio that you can immediately
 have fun with.
 So the SSB mode and additional CW mode sounds like it would support that
 well.
 On the question of whether to have more than QRP wattage, I can only
 relate that I love to see the K2 working a station barefoot.
 However, there are those times when I've connected with a station that
 I'm really excited about, and that station is struggling to get reliable
 copy.
 Its wonderful at times like that to be able to flip a switch and bring
 up my signal.
 I had just that situation the other night and the station thanked me for
 turning on the amp.
 It might set your wallet back a little on the temporary.
 But when you have it, you may be glad you opted for the 100-watts up
 front.  :)
 
 Duane - N1BBR 
 


  
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread Ignacy

Matt,
Did you use a separate USB/serial cable? Perhaps, a third party will come
with one USB/serial cable that has extra wires, possibly with some small
circuits like yours, that do the radio connection, CW and PTT simultaneously
Rumlog does software CW with KX3 but I don't know how well.

Did you run KX3 standalone in the Oceania contest?

I worked in Oceania CW last year as VK2/NO9E. Worked some 180 QSOs in 2-3
hrs using IC7000+ long wires. Got up last Sunday morning (6 AM GMT) and
worked 15 stations with K3. Amp needed.

73,
Ignacy

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Matt Maguire vk2...@gmail.com wrote:

On 18/10/2012, at 1:06 AM, Ignacy n...@arrl.net wrote:

I own both K3 and KX3.

K3 is mature radio. Works very well. But the design is a few years old.

KX3 is new radio with new design.
...
The contest programs
cannot easily send CW without extra hardware (with exceptions).

I actually used N1MM with the KX3 in the Oceania DX CW contest last weekend
(and in the
Oceania DX SSB contest the weekend before). It was the first time I had used
a contesting program to generate CW, and I discovered that N1MM is a
powerful program. To get it to work with the KX3, all that was required was
a trivial circuit with just a single transistor and single resistor, which
is pretty easy. In the end I'll probably get a Winkeyer or similar, but the
simple transistor interface was a quick and easy way to get on the air and
give automated CW contesting a go.

73, Matt VK2ACL

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread Ariel Jacala

The K2/100 is a nice entry level station - good ears and a price point about 
$900 less than a K3/100.  I have both the k2/100 and a KX3. For the same reason 
that Duane says, it is nice to have the 100w amp.  If one chooses the KX3, one 
can build a Juma 100w amp for about 420 euros.  A fellow ham has built one and 
it appears to work very well.

Ariel NY4G

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On Oct 17, 2012, at 2:59 PM, tom betka tcbe...@hotmail.com wrote:

 
 Hi Duane,
 
 Yes, I agree about the 100-watt amplifier option. A guy wouldn't have to use 
 it if it wasn't needed, but if it is needed it will sure be nice to have it. 
 So it indeed seems to be a prudent investment at this point, even if it adds 
 more to the initial cost than I initially planned. I guess it also saves the 
 trouble of adding it in later...
 
 Thanks for the post.
 
 TB
 
 From: bw...@fastmail.fm
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 10:57:20 -0700
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3
 
 Hi Tom,
 I'm still running a barefoot K2 (cw only) with an amp I can add on when
 needed.
 After reading your last post (below) I agree with you that is sounds
 like good logic to outfit yourself with a radio that you can immediately
 have fun with.
 So the SSB mode and additional CW mode sounds like it would support that
 well.
 On the question of whether to have more than QRP wattage, I can only
 relate that I love to see the K2 working a station barefoot.
 However, there are those times when I've connected with a station that
 I'm really excited about, and that station is struggling to get reliable
 copy.
 Its wonderful at times like that to be able to flip a switch and bring
 up my signal.
 I had just that situation the other night and the station thanked me for
 turning on the amp.
 It might set your wallet back a little on the temporary.
 But when you have it, you may be glad you opted for the 100-watts up
 front.  :)
 
 Duane - N1BBR 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread Bob Stephens

I used RUMped with native KX3 CW support for the AZ Qso Party and it works
really well. I also use it with RUMlog for daily use.

Bob AF9W

On Oct 17, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Ignacy wrote:

Did you run KX3 standalone in the Oceania contest?

I worked in Oceania CW last year as VK2/NO9E. Worked some 180 QSOs in 2-3
hrs using IC7000+ long wires. Got up last Sunday morning (6 AM GMT) and
worked 15 stations with K3. Amp needed.

73,
Ignacy

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Matt Maguire vk2...@gmail.com wrote:

On 18/10/2012, at 1:06 AM, Ignacy n...@arrl.net wrote:

I own both K3 and KX3.

K3 is mature radio. Works very well. But the design is a few years old.

KX3 is new radio with new design.
...
The contest programs
cannot easily send CW without extra hardware (with exceptions).

73, Matt VK2ACL

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-17 Thread Mike Herr

Both are fine rigs, and you would be happy with either, from an
operating point of view. I feeling is it all depends upon what your
goals in ham radio are - what do you want to be able to do. If you
might be doing portable, hiking, DXpeditons, traveling and yes, in the
car, I think the KX3 is the rig to go. The K3 is great on performance
but the size would lose in the end. From a performance point of view
the K3 probably has a lead over the KX3 but I gotta say, I am
extremely impressed with the performance of the KX3 to date,

For me, the KX3 wins - because I can do so much more with it and I
believe I am not sacrificing performance wrt to the K3.

I do a lot of traveling and the KX3 is the ticket. But, if I were to
have just a rig for the house, never move it, I think I would still go
for the KX3.


Mike Herr
WA6ARA
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[Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-16 Thread KF9QL


Hello all, Tom here. I am new to all-things Elecraft and have been looking
at the K3 vs KX3 options. I spoke with David at Elecraft this morning, and
he was most helpful. He also suggested that I post here to ask for opinions.
I've also been searching the forum archive as well, and will continue those
efforts. I apologize in advance for a lengthy first post, as this not my
usual level of verbosity...

I have been a HAM for 25 years now, but inactive for the past several
years--and now getting back into things. I recently retired from practicing
medicine due to a medical disability, and have earned a degree in Computer
Science and started a small technology company out of a home office. My
current project involves a biomedical device that can work as a remote
monitor of a subject's status. Basically, I am trying to meet two needs here
I suppose: Re-kindle my HAM radio hobby, and learn more about digital data
transmission with an eye towards using HAM radio to help in that effort. As
my level of knowledge about electronics is growing daily, I have been
considering a build of either a K3 or a KX3. The radio would be used in my
home shack, but I would also like to make it somewhat mobile in an RV...or
even a normal auto. Obviously the KX3 is supremely qualified for this
purpose, but I think the K3 probably is as well. And of course the K3 has
much a greater potential for future expansion and capability. But to get
started, it appears that it is very hard to beat the features and price
point of the KX3.

So I guess what I am looking for is a bit of advice from experienced
owners/users on which might be the better choice for me? I understand that
the 100w amplifier intended for the KX3 is not yet in production--but of
course that will change. My intention will also be to add in a 2m module at
some point, and I understand that the KX3 module for 2m is not yet available
either. However again, these things will change--and one can always find a
small amplifier to use with the KX3 in the meantime. The price for a K3
build would be $500-1000 more than that for a KX3, but if this is my primary
radio...is that money well-spent at this point? Also, in terms of possible
research activities using digital data transmission, would the K3 be clearly
superior to the KX3? David told me about the accessory in/out ports on the
K3, which would indeed be convenient. However the size of the KX3 is very
attractive for possible field-work, so it has that going for it--and having
to use the main mic port is not the end of the world. But still, the K3
really isn't unwieldy by any stretch, so the size differential between the
two might not even be an issue at all.

Anyway, I would appreciate whatever advice folks are willing to offer. I
anticipate making a purchase sometime in the next 1-2 weeks, and have been
reading everything I can find, and watching every YouTube video I can come
across on either of these two units.

Thanks in advance for the help!

KF9QL 



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-16 Thread Buck - k4ia

You are going to get a ton of answers but here's my take (and I own both).

It all depends on what you want to do. I would compare it to the choice
of a laptop computer vs a desktop or a 5-shot 38 revolver vs a 13-round
45 semi-auto. Either one will get the job done but they have different
pros and cons.

If you want a light weight, low power consumption rig that is really
easy to move around, the KX3 is better. It is perfect for hikers,
campers, backyard operators, battery power and all-around fun with much
better performance than the typical trail rig. Not so sure how that
will change once you add the 100w amplifier. I suspect it and the
larger power supply will be more of a desktop profile at that point but
without the additional performance of the K3.

If you want maximum flexibility, more power, more features you go for a
desktop. The K3 has become the standard by which all other contest
quality rigs are measured. Some of them are as big as suitcases. The
K3 is small by comparison but it is lunchbox-sized compared to the KX3
which is more the size of a VHS tape.

Either one is an excellent choice but you wouldn't want to haul a
desktop up a mountain and you wouldn't want to use a laptop to do high
resolution gaming, video editing or multiple DVD burning.

So, ask yourself, what do you want to do? Most will say you need both.

Buck
k4ia

On 10/16/2012 4:22 PM, KF9QL wrote:
Hello all, Tom here. I am new to all-things Elecraft and have been looking
at the K3 vs KX3 options. I spoke with David at Elecraft this morning, and
he was most helpful. He also suggested that I post here to ask for opinions.
I've also been searching the forum archive as well, and will continue those
efforts. I apologize in advance for a lengthy first post, as this not my
usual level of verbosity...

I have been a HAM for 25 years now, but inactive for the past several
years--and now getting back into things. I recently retired from practicing
medicine due to a medical disability, and have earned a degree in Computer
Science and started a small technology company out of a home office. My
current project involves a biomedical device that can work as a remote
monitor of a subject's status. Basically, I am trying to meet two needs here
I suppose: Re-kindle my HAM radio hobby, and learn more about digital data
transmission with an eye towards using HAM radio to help in that effort. As
my level of knowledge about electronics is growing daily, I have been
considering a build of either a K3 or a KX3. The radio would be used in my
home shack, but I would also like to make it somewhat mobile in an RV...or
even a normal auto. Obviously the KX3 is supremely qualified for this
purpose, but I think the K3 probably is as well. And of course the K3 has
much a greater potential for future expansion and capability. But to get
started, it appears that it is very hard to beat the features and price
point of the KX3.

So I guess what I am looking for is a bit of advice from experienced
owners/users on which might be the better choice for me? I understand that
the 100w amplifier intended for the KX3 is not yet in production--but of
course that will change. My intention will also be to add in a 2m module at
some point, and I understand that the KX3 module for 2m is not yet available
either. However again, these things will change--and one can always find a
small amplifier to use with the KX3 in the meantime. The price for a K3
build would be $500-1000 more than that for a KX3, but if this is my primary
radio...is that money well-spent at this point? Also, in terms of possible
research activities using digital data transmission, would the K3 be clearly
superior to the KX3? David told me about the accessory in/out ports on the
K3, which would indeed be convenient. However the size of the KX3 is very
attractive for possible field-work, so it has that going for it--and having
to use the main mic port is not the end of the world. But still, the K3
really isn't unwieldy by any stretch, so the size differential between the
two might not even be an issue at all.

Anyway, I would appreciate whatever advice folks are willing to offer. I
anticipate making a purchase sometime in the next 1-2 weeks, and have been
reading everything I can find, and watching every YouTube video I can come
across on either of these two units.

Thanks in advance for the help!

KF9QL

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

The price for a K3 build would be $500-1000 more than that for a
KX3, but if this is my primary radio...is that money well-spent at
this point?

Absolutely. Unless you are looking for a trail/backpack radio, the
added flexibility, features and user interface of the K3 is hands
down superior to the KX3.

Also, in terms of possible research activities using digital data
transmission, would the K3 be clearly superior to the KX3?

Yes, with its dedicated line out and line in capability - including an
independent digital to analog converter for data out - the K3 is vastly
superior to the KX3 for digital work. Note however, I would not be
using any amateur rig for commercial experimentation as you will likely
want to be working at UHF or low SHF for the short to medium range
medical data communications.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 10/16/2012 4:22 PM, KF9QL wrote:

Hello all, Tom here. I am new to all-things Elecraft and have been looking
at the K3 vs KX3 options. I spoke with David at Elecraft this morning, and
he was most helpful. He also suggested that I post here to ask for opinions.
I've also been searching the forum archive as well, and will continue those
efforts. I apologize in advance for a lengthy first post, as this not my
usual level of verbosity...

Thanks in advance for the help!

KF9QL

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-16 Thread Andrew Moore

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:

 Absolutely.  Unless you are looking for a trail/backpack radio, the
 added flexibility, features and user interface of the K3 is hands
 down superior to the KX3.


While the features and UI on the K3 are clearly more extensive, don't
confuse that with it being a better rig for all but trail/backpack use.
Elecraft already has a rig that's probably better for trail/backpacking:
the KX1 (though it's not as full-featured).

The KX3 may still win for those wanting a:

- rig with a simple user interface and few controls
- rig to run as a base station on solar power
- rig to run in confined quarters (like my tiny shack...)
- vacation rig
- mobile rig

As many have pointed out, step 1 is figure out what you want to do.

For me, if the rig was staying put in the shack, the K3 would be the
answer. If I envisioned it moving about from time to time - camping,
vacation, mobile, trailer, etc... - then the KX3 would be it.

If you want to focus strictly on performance, go K3.  But the KX3 is no
slouch. Buck's desktop/laptop analogy is a good one.

--Andrew, NV1B
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-16 Thread Phil Hystad

Tom,

So far I think you have gotten some good advice and opinions but I would
add one more vote for the K3 as being the first of hopefully many Elecraft
radios you will own.

I own both the K3 and the KX3. But, I am still very new to the KX3, just
finished putting it together 4 days ago. I am still learning how this thing
works. And, I like this new KX3 as much as I like all my other radios but
if it came to a choice between the KX3 and the K3 I would stick with the
K3.

But, of course, owning both is far superior. The only real question after
you buy your K3, is what is next in the pipeline of Elecraft equipment.
A K3 by itself seems too lonely. Owning a K-line is so much better and if
you are new to all things Elecraft, a K-line is typically considered the
K3 with the addition of P3 (I think so) plus a KPA500 and soon a
KAT500.

However, no matter which one you get (first), you are not making a
mistake.

73, phil, K7PEH

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Thanks in advance for the help!

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-16 Thread tom betka


Thanks Phil...
I agree that the K3 does indeed seem like the way to go at this point, and the 
extra $$ is probably money well-spent. But that leaves me with another 
dilemma...how to outfit the K3?
Here's the basic order I came up with today. After talking David at Elecraft, I 
added the 100w power amplifier which kicks price up $450. But my question...is 
that really needed at first. I guess David's point (which seemed very valid 
when we talked) was that I should spend the extra money on the 100w amp, 
instead of some stuff for CW that I was going to opt for instead. I have never 
really practiced much CW to be honest, and would like to learn it. However 
David advised that it would be more important to get phone up  running, and 
working well--and THEN add on CW in the future. After considering his advice 
more today I think it's very sound indeed--and therefore was probably looking 
at this build list:

Elecraft K3
item#   item descriptionunit 
price-K3/100
   K3 100W Xcvr. (Modular Kit) $1999.95(10w = 
1549.95)KUSB Univ. Ser Bus Adapt.$39.95KXSER
 K144XV Serial Cable freeMH3
 MH3 Hand Mic$59.95  KAT3Internal Tuner 
 $299.95=== 
 TOTAL  $2399.80   (10w = 
$1949.80)

Although it's a bit more than I was planning to spend initially, the 100-watt 
amp is an affordable add-on in the initial build. So it would be do-able. For 
comparison, if I were to go with a KX3 and leave off the CW components, the 
gear would come in at just under $1350--but of course that doesn't include a 
100-watt amplifier, as they are not yet available for that radio. So it really 
isn't an apples-to-apples comparison at all...unless you simply consider the 
10-watt K3 build. In that case it would be about $600 more for the K3, and I 
think it's been well-established that this extra money would be well-spent 
given that this would be my only HF rig.
Anyway, I'll hopefully be looking at Duane's K3 tomorrow if all goes well. Then 
I can make the final decision after that, and get moving.
Thanks again to everyone for the advice. It's very reassuring to draw on the 
wealth of experience that's so obvious in the users here.

Tom

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-16 Thread Keith Heimbold

I am a new ham (22 months) and own both radio models (actually two K3s and one
KX3) and they are fantastic radios. However if I was to choose one over the
other it would be the K3 over the KX3.

For reasons already cited including modular flexibility and tailor-ability, my
built in 100W KPA100, multiple configuration with roofing filters that you
choose, real dual receiver, product maturity, light weight and smallish size,
and for ease of use for digital modes I would definitely pick the K3.

I use the KX3 in my truck and down the road i plan to take it on my business
trips that require more air travel. It is an amazing portable rig but I am
biased towards my K3s. They are a special breed of transceiver. The ability to
configure them to your operating style is what I think is amazing. Mass
customization is MBA business strategy material and something we talked about
15 years ago in grad school and Elecraft has mastered this concept in the K3.

Either way you go you will likely be very happy. One last note...when I come
home from a long week of business travel, I greet the wife and hold my new
baby, say hi to the pups, and then when they are all sleeping I head to the
shack to see my two friends K3, 1391 and 1526. And i know that all is good at
the Heimbold house.

Keith
AG6AZ

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On Oct 16, 2012, at 1:23 PM, KF9QL tcbe...@hotmail.com wrote:

Thanks in advance for the help!

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-16 Thread Bill Frantz

I have a base (12 watt) K3 and find 5 watts quite adequate for 
my mostly PSK operation. With the sunspots the way they are, I 
can reach the south Pacific on a good night. Narrow band modes 
like CW and PSK work well with low power.

I spent my extra cash on the T1 tuner, the 2M option, the FM 
filter, and the 250Hz filter. I also have the Elecraft cool aid 
running in my blood so I have a P3 on order. My plan is to move 
up to 100 watts when the sunspots die down. Right now I'm having 
too much fun with QRP.

OTOH, I have had trouble being heard on the Elecraft SSB net. 
But that's a wide band mode. Perhaps if I aimed my dipole toward 
Oregon instead of Rhode Island it would work better. :-)

The choice between K3 and KX3 was easy for me. The K3 was being 
delivered. :-)

Cheers - Bill

On 10/16/12 at 5:27 PM, tcbe...@hotmail.com (tom betka) wrote:

Here's the basic order I came up with today. After talking 
David at Elecraft, I added the 100w power amplifier which kicks 
price up $450. But my question...is that really needed at first.

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft newbie considering K3 vs KX3

2012-10-16 Thread Matt Maguire

Hi Tom,

What are this CW stuff you are talking about below? If it is narrow
roofing filters for CW, then I think you can definitely leave these off
until later, and just rely on the K3 DSP filtering for now. I think the
only thing you really need to add to a basic K3 in order to do CW is a
paddle. I suggest the Bencher BY-1 is a good entry-level paddle that is
inexpensive but works FB. By adding the 100W amp now, it will be easier to
make contacts and build your CW skills.

If you are thinking of getting a K3, then grab a copy of Fred Cady's ebook
on the K3 from Lulu (it is cheap, especially if you use one of the readily
available discount vouchers).

73, Matt VK2ACL


On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:27 AM, tom betka tcbe...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Thanks Phil...
 I agree that the K3 does indeed seem like the way to go at this point, and
 the extra $$ is probably money well-spent. But that leaves me with another
 dilemma...how to outfit the K3?
 Here's the basic order I came up with today. After talking David at
 Elecraft, I added the 100w power amplifier which kicks price up $450. But
 my question...is that really needed at first. I guess David's point (which
 seemed very valid when we talked) was that I should spend the extra money
 on the 100w amp, instead of some stuff for CW that I was going to opt for
 instead. I have never really practiced much CW to be honest, and would like
 to learn it. However David advised that it would be more important to get
 phone up  running, and working well--and THEN add on CW in the future.
 After considering his advice more today I think it's very sound indeed--and
 therefore was probably looking at this build list:

 Elecraft K3
 item#   item descriptionunit
 price-K3/100
   K3 100W Xcvr. (Modular Kit) $1999.95(10w =
 1549.95)KUSB Univ. Ser Bus Adapt.
  $39.95KXSER K144XV Serial Cable free
  MH3 MH3 Hand Mic$59.95
  KAT3Internal Tuner
  $299.95===
  TOTAL  $2399.80   (10w = $1949.80)

 Although it's a bit more than I was planning to spend initially, the
 100-watt amp is an affordable add-on in the initial build. So it would be
 do-able. For comparison, if I were to go with a KX3 and leave off the CW
 components, the gear would come in at just under $1350--but of course that
 doesn't include a 100-watt amplifier, as they are not yet available for
 that radio. So it really isn't an apples-to-apples comparison at
 all...unless you simply consider the 10-watt K3 build. In that case it
 would be about $600 more for the K3, and I think it's been well-established
 that this extra money would be well-spent given that this would be my only
 HF rig.
 Anyway, I'll hopefully be looking at Duane's K3 tomorrow if all goes well.
 Then I can make the final decision after that, and get moving.
 Thanks again to everyone for the advice. It's very reassuring to draw on
 the wealth of experience that's so obvious in the users here.

 Tom

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

2012-08-07 Thread va3bxg

Based on the amount of questions and topics there is three areas of 
questions/improvements/additions to the guide I would suggest updating, given 
the admittedly targeting of new/lack of experience hams

1) Digital operations. The how. What cable to hook where. The method of 
operation. Some of this In part, maybe outside the intention of the manual, but 
there is still quite a bit that should be added. Just look at the questions 
that are posted here and on KX3 reflector

2) The whole area of the AGC/filter/setup. (And this is really where the manual 
lacks info for the new owner/newbie in my uneducated opinion) Again the number 
of questions from both newbies and experienced hams make it evident that 
information needs to be enhanced (true some people will never read the manual, 
but at least one can be directed to it, if the question a raises) this is where 
I am truly still having issues. Some hams here talk about the menu option to 
decrease/increase the AGC yet us 'new' guys have yet the complete understanding 
of what the AGC is supposedly doing and what the menu changing actual does.

3) Power. Now admittedly I believe that has been covered in the manual 
appropriately. The questions still come. The differences between LiPo LiFePo4 
as an example. I did ask the down to basic question and got some responses 
which I am still trying to digest. But as a side note and a related topic (and 
something that can be included in the new versions of the manual) is a section 
on travel. According to current US and international travel restrictions, what 
can and cannot be brought onboard. Yes they will change, but so will other 
items in the manual due to upgrades etc. Questions have been placed by all 
types of hams, on which battery can be carried on, side equipment etc. Again 
this may be not the high priority on the contents of the manual, but a truly 
nice to have. 

I truly believe that number #1  #2 of my list should be included/updated 
within the manual. #3 is a nice to have but based on the questions also 
something to consider

And if it is not possible, what about a series of entries in the elecraft FAQ 
(my second choice)

I will borrow someone else sig. Here and say

Ok back to my hole

a 'kosher ham'

Robert

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 21:17:38 
To: Robert Galambosva3...@gmail.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

Robert,

We did include a lot of material for first-time users, but we had to  
draw the line somewhere. We're planning to expand the digital section,  
and we'll always be improving it based on user feedback.

Meanwhile, if there are specific areas you'd like to know more about,  
just ask. Our reflector is a great place to start. There's also the  
ARRL Handbook, and other League guides to just about everything.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Robert Galambos wrote:

 i am also a newbie (i was the one who asked where the volume control
 was...boy did i get flack for that one)

 but i must tell you the manual could be really revamped up, to the  
 point
 that newbies can use it. right now, you may think that it is designed
 with less experienced operators, but , in my opinion falls very  
 short in
 that regard.

 the digital section is lacking on some practical information on where
 cables should be used where (there are/were a lot of question about  
 that
 here and the KX3 reflector that proves my point)

 while there is more practical information the a ICOM manual, it is not
 anywhere close to where a new person can read it and use it as solely
 use it reference material

 On 12-08-06 9:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Ralph,

 I am going to assume the KX3, but you do need to specify the type  
 in the
 subject line for the best results.

 The KXBC3 option is not yet available, so you need to ignore that  
 part
 of the manual.  It will do what it says when installed.  Note that  
 it is
 an option, and not required.  Until that option is available, you  
 will
 have to remove the batteries for re-charging (also the clock will  
 be
 rest to zero when you power off).

 Newbies are welcome right here - ask away, and you will usually  
 find a
 response in short order.

 The KX3 manual itself has a lot of how-to information in it.  I
 suggest you sit down with your KX3 along with the manual and walk
 through the procedures as you read the manual.

 There is also a Yahoo Group for the KX3, but much of the  
 information is
 duplicated on this reflector.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 8/6/2012 8:03 PM, Ralph Bagwell wrote:
 Is there a newbie section ? I read the manual and still have  
 difficulty with simple operations . ( I just opened the box )

 I'm still trying to understand how to charge the batteries  ( for  
 instance ) - I hate to experiment on such a nice piece of gear -  
 I'd like absolute detail on how-to rather than clicking and  
 turning knobs at almost random to do simple things

Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

2012-08-07 Thread Matt Maguire

Hi Robert,

Wayne said they they plan to beef up the digital modes section of the manual, 
so it will be interesting to see what information they put there. The challenge 
is that there are so many possible setups that it is just not practical to 
cover them all.

Concerning your questions around AGC, Don W3FPR has written an excellent 
article on this topic, and you can find it on his web page:
http://www.w3fpr.com/K3_AGC.htm

I would question whether a detailed treatment of the different types of 
batteries available is really appropriate for a radio user manual, but it would 
certainly be an excellent topic for an FAQ article.

73, Matt VK2ACL

On 07/08/2012, at 8:54 PM, va3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Based on the amount of questions and topics there is three areas of 
 questions/improvements/additions to the guide I would suggest updating, given 
 the admittedly targeting of new/lack of experience hams
 
 1) Digital operations. The how. What cable to hook where. The method of 
 operation. Some of this In part, maybe outside the intention of the manual, 
 but there is still quite a bit that should be added. Just look at the 
 questions that are posted here and on KX3 reflector
 
 2) The whole area of the AGC/filter/setup. (And this is really where the 
 manual lacks info for the new owner/newbie in my uneducated opinion) Again 
 the number of questions from both newbies and experienced hams make it 
 evident that information needs to be enhanced (true some people will never 
 read the manual, but at least one can be directed to it, if the question a 
 raises) this is where I am truly still having issues. Some hams here talk 
 about the menu option to decrease/increase the AGC yet us 'new' guys have yet 
 the complete understanding of what the AGC is supposedly doing and what the 
 menu changing actual does.
 
 3) Power. Now admittedly I believe that has been covered in the manual 
 appropriately. The questions still come. The differences between LiPo LiFePo4 
 as an example. I did ask the down to basic question and got some responses 
 which I am still trying to digest. But as a side note and a related topic 
 (and something that can be included in the new versions of the manual) is a 
 section on travel. According to current US and international travel 
 restrictions, what can and cannot be brought onboard. Yes they will change, 
 but so will other items in the manual due to upgrades etc. Questions have 
 been placed by all types of hams, on which battery can be carried on, side 
 equipment etc. Again this may be not the high priority on the contents of the 
 manual, but a truly nice to have. 
 
 I truly believe that number #1  #2 of my list should be included/updated 
 within the manual. #3 is a nice to have but based on the questions also 
 something to consider
 
 And if it is not possible, what about a series of entries in the elecraft FAQ 
 (my second choice)
 
 I will borrow someone else sig. Here and say
 
 Ok back to my hole
 
 a 'kosher ham'
 
 Robert
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 21:17:38 
 To: Robert Galambosva3...@gmail.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Newbie
 
 Robert,
 
 We did include a lot of material for first-time users, but we had to  
 draw the line somewhere. We're planning to expand the digital section,  
 and we'll always be improving it based on user feedback.
 
 Meanwhile, if there are specific areas you'd like to know more about,  
 just ask. Our reflector is a great place to start. There's also the  
 ARRL Handbook, and other League guides to just about everything.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Robert Galambos wrote:
 
 i am also a newbie (i was the one who asked where the volume control
 was...boy did i get flack for that one)
 
 but i must tell you the manual could be really revamped up, to the  
 point
 that newbies can use it. right now, you may think that it is designed
 with less experienced operators, but , in my opinion falls very  
 short in
 that regard.
 
 the digital section is lacking on some practical information on where
 cables should be used where (there are/were a lot of question about  
 that
 here and the KX3 reflector that proves my point)
 
 while there is more practical information the a ICOM manual, it is not
 anywhere close to where a new person can read it and use it as solely
 use it reference material
 
 On 12-08-06 9:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Ralph,
 
 I am going to assume the KX3, but you do need to specify the type  
 in the
 subject line for the best results.
 
 The KXBC3 option is not yet available, so you need to ignore that  
 part
 of the manual.  It will do what it says when installed.  Note that  
 it is
 an option, and not required.  Until that option is available, you  
 will
 have to remove the batteries for re-charging (also the clock will  
 be
 rest to zero when you power off).
 
 Newbies are welcome right here - ask away

Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

2012-08-07 Thread va3bxg

While I agree about the various aspects of the Digital aspect. But a basic 
setup so one can cover what is needed to start is something that I believe 
would be an asset.

Batteries is something that always come up. and an faq is probably more 
appropriate

I will be reading the article and it seems interesting. But this is still 
something that I believe should be included as not only a general conversation, 
but a also specific aspect of the KX3 and its setting
a 'kosher ham'

Robert

-Original Message-
From: Matt Maguire vk2...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 21:38:06 
To: va3...@gmail.com
Cc: Elecraft listelecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

Hi Robert,

Wayne said they they plan to beef up the digital modes section of the manual, 
so it will be interesting to see what information they put there. The challenge 
is that there are so many possible setups that it is just not practical to 
cover them all.

Concerning your questions around AGC, Don W3FPR has written an excellent 
article on this topic, and you can find it on his web page:
http://www.w3fpr.com/K3_AGC.htm

I would question whether a detailed treatment of the different types of 
batteries available is really appropriate for a radio user manual, but it would 
certainly be an excellent topic for an FAQ article.

73, Matt VK2ACL

On 07/08/2012, at 8:54 PM, va3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Based on the amount of questions and topics there is three areas of 
 questions/improvements/additions to the guide I would suggest updating, given 
 the admittedly targeting of new/lack of experience hams
 
 1) Digital operations. The how. What cable to hook where. The method of 
 operation. Some of this In part, maybe outside the intention of the manual, 
 but there is still quite a bit that should be added. Just look at the 
 questions that are posted here and on KX3 reflector
 
 2) The whole area of the AGC/filter/setup. (And this is really where the 
 manual lacks info for the new owner/newbie in my uneducated opinion) Again 
 the number of questions from both newbies and experienced hams make it 
 evident that information needs to be enhanced (true some people will never 
 read the manual, but at least one can be directed to it, if the question a 
 raises) this is where I am truly still having issues. Some hams here talk 
 about the menu option to decrease/increase the AGC yet us 'new' guys have yet 
 the complete understanding of what the AGC is supposedly doing and what the 
 menu changing actual does.
 
 3) Power. Now admittedly I believe that has been covered in the manual 
 appropriately. The questions still come. The differences between LiPo LiFePo4 
 as an example. I did ask the down to basic question and got some responses 
 which I am still trying to digest. But as a side note and a related topic 
 (and something that can be included in the new versions of the manual) is a 
 section on travel. According to current US and international travel 
 restrictions, what can and cannot be brought onboard. Yes they will change, 
 but so will other items in the manual due to upgrades etc. Questions have 
 been placed by all types of hams, on which battery can be carried on, side 
 equipment etc. Again this may be not the high priority on the contents of the 
 manual, but a truly nice to have. 
 
 I truly believe that number #1  #2 of my list should be included/updated 
 within the manual. #3 is a nice to have but based on the questions also 
 something to consider
 
 And if it is not possible, what about a series of entries in the elecraft FAQ 
 (my second choice)
 
 I will borrow someone else sig. Here and say
 
 Ok back to my hole
 
 a 'kosher ham'
 
 Robert
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 21:17:38 
 To: Robert Galambosva3...@gmail.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Newbie
 
 Robert,
 
 We did include a lot of material for first-time users, but we had to  
 draw the line somewhere. We're planning to expand the digital section,  
 and we'll always be improving it based on user feedback.
 
 Meanwhile, if there are specific areas you'd like to know more about,  
 just ask. Our reflector is a great place to start. There's also the  
 ARRL Handbook, and other League guides to just about everything.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Robert Galambos wrote:
 
 i am also a newbie (i was the one who asked where the volume control
 was...boy did i get flack for that one)
 
 but i must tell you the manual could be really revamped up, to the  
 point
 that newbies can use it. right now, you may think that it is designed
 with less experienced operators, but , in my opinion falls very  
 short in
 that regard.
 
 the digital section is lacking on some practical information on where
 cables should be used where (there are/were a lot of question about  
 that
 here and the KX3 reflector that proves my point)
 
 while there is more practical

Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

2012-08-07 Thread Matt Zilmer

Hi Ralph,

The KX3 was developed to appeal to and be used by newbies as well as
experienced operators.  The best way to learn the KX3 is with the
manual by your side.  Follow through the manual's instructions slowly
and carefully, taking all the time you need for an initial
understanding of controls.  Your first pass may leave you saturated (a
full head), but don't let this worry you.  As you work through the
manual again (as needed), you'll gain a greater understanding.  It
especially helps to tune in signals and use the recevier controls on
the signal to see what the effect is.

Wayne was very thorough with this owner's manual, and spent quite a
bit of time to make it easy to read and to reference.  This doesn't
mean that you won't have questions; this forum is a good place to post
any questions you might have.  That's its primary purpose in fact.

Don't worry too much about causing damage to the KX3 by controlling it
from the front panel or transmitting, applying power, etc.  The KX3
protects itself quite capably from mistakes a user might make.  When
it comes to opening the enclosure to put in or charge batteries, take
the care with doing it but overall it's like putting batteries in any
piece of equipment.  It seems to be easiest if the rear part of the
enclosure is level on a table top.

It *is* a beautiful device, isn't it?  That said, it's also meant to
be used.  

73,
matt W6NIA


On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:03:46 -0500, you wrote:

Is there a newbie section ? I read the manual and still have difficulty with 
simple operations . ( I just opened the box ) 

I'm still trying to understand how to charge the batteries  ( for instance ) - 
I hate to experiment on such a nice piece of gear - I'd like absolute detail 
on how-to rather than clicking and turning knobs at almost random to do 
simple things . I don't want to hurt the beautiful device .

thanks,

ralph ( xe1hi )



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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

2012-08-07 Thread Holger Schurig

In addition to those advices, you can simply send an e-mail here, e.g.
make the text Can one of you explain a newbie how to charge the
batteries? and make the subject line similar, e.g. [KX3] How to
charge batteries.

I would even send one e-mail per question.


I guess your battery-charging question has already been answered, or?
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[Elecraft] Newbie

2012-08-06 Thread Ralph Bagwell

Is there a newbie section ? I read the manual and still have difficulty with 
simple operations . ( I just opened the box ) 

I'm still trying to understand how to charge the batteries  ( for instance ) - 
I hate to experiment on such a nice piece of gear - I'd like absolute detail 
on how-to rather than clicking and turning knobs at almost random to do 
simple things . I don't want to hurt the beautiful device .

thanks,

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

2012-08-06 Thread Robert Galambos

welcome to the list, and as a newbie as well, i really understand where 
you are at.


fr now to charge the battery, you must use an external charger (if you 
are using the 8 AA internally)

and play with it, i don't think you can hurt it as long as you what is 
reasonable


On 12-08-06 8:03 PM, Ralph Bagwell wrote:
 Is there a newbie section ? I read the manual and still have difficulty 
 with simple operations . ( I just opened the box )

 I'm still trying to understand how to charge the batteries  ( for instance ) 
 - I hate to experiment on such a nice piece of gear - I'd like absolute 
 detail on how-to rather than clicking and turning knobs at almost random to 
 do simple things . I don't want to hurt the beautiful device .

 thanks,

 ralph ( xe1hi )



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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

2012-08-06 Thread N5GE

Hello, Ralph,

It would help all of us if you would tell us what it is you need help with.

Is it a K3, K2, KX3 or KPA500?

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member


On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 19:03:46 -0500, Ralph Bagwell ralph.bagw...@gmail.com
wrote:

Is there a newbie section ? I read the manual and still have difficulty with 
simple operations . ( I just opened the box ) 

I'm still trying to understand how to charge the batteries  ( for instance ) - 
I hate to experiment on such a nice piece of gear - I'd like absolute detail 
on how-to rather than clicking and turning knobs at almost random to do 
simple things . I don't want to hurt the beautiful device .

thanks,

ralph ( xe1hi )



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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

2012-08-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ralph,

I am going to assume the KX3, but you do need to specify the type in the 
subject line for the best results.

The KXBC3 option is not yet available, so you need to ignore that part 
of the manual.  It will do what it says when installed.  Note that it is 
an option, and not required.  Until that option is available, you will 
have to remove the batteries for re-charging (also the clock will be 
rest to zero when you power off).

Newbies are welcome right here - ask away, and you will usually find a 
response in short order.

The KX3 manual itself has a lot of how-to information in it.  I 
suggest you sit down with your KX3 along with the manual and walk 
through the procedures as you read the manual.

There is also a Yahoo Group for the KX3, but much of the information is 
duplicated on this reflector.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/6/2012 8:03 PM, Ralph Bagwell wrote:
 Is there a newbie section ? I read the manual and still have difficulty 
 with simple operations . ( I just opened the box )

 I'm still trying to understand how to charge the batteries  ( for instance ) 
 - I hate to experiment on such a nice piece of gear - I'd like absolute 
 detail on how-to rather than clicking and turning knobs at almost random to 
 do simple things . I don't want to hurt the beautiful device .

 thanks,

 ralph ( xe1hi )



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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

2012-08-06 Thread N5GE

Ralph,

I know the feeling ;-)

One thing that will help you is to put the name of the Elecraft product in the
subject line. Something like KX3 Need Help Getting Started will get you the
help you need.

When I got my K3 I was in the same place you are now, so don't be bashful about
asking questions.  If the group can't help you with an answer, call Elecraft and
ask them for help.  They are the most helpful folks I've ever encountered.  No
kidding.

My suggestions are:

Set the KX3 on your operating table and get the manual out.  Read it while you
get to know the controls.  Do this a couple of times.

One of the things I do is keep a PDF file copy of my K3 manual handy on the
computer screen.  For instance, if you need help charging the batteries, right
click the page you are on and look at the menu that pops up, then select Find
and you will see a small window open in the upper right hand corner of the page.
Type batteries in the window and click on the small right hand button on the
right of the window and see if the page with batteries comes up.

I don't have a KX3, so I can't help you with it, but maybe that will get you
started.

Good luck.  You're going to love that KX3.  You just received something special
from a special company.

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member


On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 20:59:45 -0500, Ralph Bagwell ralph.bagw...@gmail.com
wrote:

Thanks Tom,

My invoice shows that I have a KX3-F ( with mike and USB cable ) . I have no 
idea of what modules are installed. It has been so many years since I keyed 
a mike - I have a lot to re-learn . I'm an old ham and in past years have 
done RTTY, packet, CW etc.

I hope to combine my computer and ham hobbies .

I need a lot of help but it is difficult to list what I need to learn . I 
just want to listen to the bands for a while to learn what bands are usable. 
The design of this device is different than any I have seen . Even attaching 
power required a read - the on/off switch is not a common one for me.

I just assumed that there have been many others with these same learning 
needs - thus a common function is to have a section dedicated to raw 
new-comers so that experienced folks don't have to be bothered with novice 
questions over and over again .Thus the general question - Is there a newbie 
area in this forum

( example: when selecting the band of interest by pressing the band 
button - is there a way to  go backwards  ? My guess is that pressing 
another button or holding the band button might reverse the selecting 
pattern - but searching archives so far has revealed no answer to a very 
simple operation.)

Thanks very much .


- Original Message - 
From: N5GE li...@n5ge.com
To: Ralph Bagwell ralph.bagw...@gmail.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Newbie


Hello, Ralph,

It would help all of us if you would tell us what it is you need help with.

Is it a K3, K2, KX3 or KPA500?

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member


On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 19:03:46 -0500, Ralph Bagwell ralph.bagw...@gmail.com
wrote:

Is there a newbie section ? I read the manual and still have difficulty 
with simple operations . ( I just opened the box )

I'm still trying to understand how to charge the batteries  ( for 
instance ) - I hate to experiment on such a nice piece of gear - I'd like 
absolute detail on how-to rather than clicking and turning knobs at 
almost random to do simple things . I don't want to hurt the beautiful 
device .

thanks,

ralph ( xe1hi )



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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

2012-08-06 Thread Robert Galambos

i am also a newbie (i was the one who asked where the volume control 
was...boy did i get flack for that one)

but i must tell you the manual could be really revamped up, to the point 
that newbies can use it. right now, you may think that it is designed 
with less experienced operators, but , in my opinion falls very short in 
that regard.

the digital section is lacking on some practical information on where 
cables should be used where (there are/were a lot of question about that 
here and the KX3 reflector that proves my point)

while there is more practical information the a ICOM manual, it is not 
anywhere close to where a new person can read it and use it as solely 
use it reference material

On 12-08-06 9:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Ralph,

 I am going to assume the KX3, but you do need to specify the type in the
 subject line for the best results.

 The KXBC3 option is not yet available, so you need to ignore that part
 of the manual.  It will do what it says when installed.  Note that it is
 an option, and not required.  Until that option is available, you will
 have to remove the batteries for re-charging (also the clock will be
 rest to zero when you power off).

 Newbies are welcome right here - ask away, and you will usually find a
 response in short order.

 The KX3 manual itself has a lot of how-to information in it.  I
 suggest you sit down with your KX3 along with the manual and walk
 through the procedures as you read the manual.

 There is also a Yahoo Group for the KX3, but much of the information is
 duplicated on this reflector.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 8/6/2012 8:03 PM, Ralph Bagwell wrote:
 Is there a newbie section ? I read the manual and still have difficulty 
 with simple operations . ( I just opened the box )

 I'm still trying to understand how to charge the batteries  ( for instance ) 
 - I hate to experiment on such a nice piece of gear - I'd like absolute 
 detail on how-to rather than clicking and turning knobs at almost random 
 to do simple things . I don't want to hurt the beautiful device .

 thanks,

 ralph ( xe1hi )


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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie

2012-08-06 Thread Wayne Burdick

Robert,

We did include a lot of material for first-time users, but we had to  
draw the line somewhere. We're planning to expand the digital section,  
and we'll always be improving it based on user feedback.

Meanwhile, if there are specific areas you'd like to know more about,  
just ask. Our reflector is a great place to start. There's also the  
ARRL Handbook, and other League guides to just about everything.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Robert Galambos wrote:

 i am also a newbie (i was the one who asked where the volume control
 was...boy did i get flack for that one)

 but i must tell you the manual could be really revamped up, to the  
 point
 that newbies can use it. right now, you may think that it is designed
 with less experienced operators, but , in my opinion falls very  
 short in
 that regard.

 the digital section is lacking on some practical information on where
 cables should be used where (there are/were a lot of question about  
 that
 here and the KX3 reflector that proves my point)

 while there is more practical information the a ICOM manual, it is not
 anywhere close to where a new person can read it and use it as solely
 use it reference material

 On 12-08-06 9:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Ralph,

 I am going to assume the KX3, but you do need to specify the type  
 in the
 subject line for the best results.

 The KXBC3 option is not yet available, so you need to ignore that  
 part
 of the manual.  It will do what it says when installed.  Note that  
 it is
 an option, and not required.  Until that option is available, you  
 will
 have to remove the batteries for re-charging (also the clock will  
 be
 rest to zero when you power off).

 Newbies are welcome right here - ask away, and you will usually  
 find a
 response in short order.

 The KX3 manual itself has a lot of how-to information in it.  I
 suggest you sit down with your KX3 along with the manual and walk
 through the procedures as you read the manual.

 There is also a Yahoo Group for the KX3, but much of the  
 information is
 duplicated on this reflector.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 8/6/2012 8:03 PM, Ralph Bagwell wrote:
 Is there a newbie section ? I read the manual and still have  
 difficulty with simple operations . ( I just opened the box )

 I'm still trying to understand how to charge the batteries  ( for  
 instance ) - I hate to experiment on such a nice piece of gear -  
 I'd like absolute detail on how-to rather than clicking and  
 turning knobs at almost random to do simple things . I don't want  
 to hurt the beautiful device .

 thanks,

 ralph ( xe1hi )


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[Elecraft] newbie setup questions on memory editor repeater seetup

2012-03-16 Thread Julie Royster

Thanks to Tom N4PZT for his advice.  I gave up on the memory editor software
and am entering the repeaters directly as you suggest.  I appreciate your
help!
Julie KT4JR
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Re: [Elecraft] newbie setup questions on memory editor repeater setup

2012-03-15 Thread Tom Azlin N4ZPT

Hi Julie,

I have not seen another list response. Perhaps you got direct responses?

The split mode is not necessary for a repeater. See page 29 of the 
manual. I dial in the repeater on one of the VFOs, switch to FM mode, 
then push the Alt key ( hold down mode key) multiple times until it 
switches to the + or - offset I want. When I key the mike the VFO 
displays the offset transmit freq then goes back to the receive freq 
when I let off the PTT. Separately is an offset setting but as I 
remember it was defaulted correctly.

The squelch on my K3 is the RF/SQL knob. Setup on page 53 or around there.

73, tom n4zpt


On 3/14/2012 4:51 PM, Julie Royster wrote:
 Hi from KT4JR, wife of K4MWE, and new co-owner of a K3 with 144mHz
 transverter built in. I have not been able to understand how
 repeaters are supposed to be set up and I am hoping some kind spirit
 out there can clarify for me.

 I have entered the repeater frequency in the VFO A cell of the memory
 editor on the computer. I have selected FM so that offset and PL tone
 choices appear next to the VFO B cell. I can put in the offset and PL
 tone, but do I enter a frequency in the VFO B cell? I can't tell
 whether the program would apply the offset to the VFO A frequency or
 to the VFO B frequency, so I don't know whether to put the same entry
 in A and in B, put the actual transmit frequency in B, leave B
 blank, or what.

 Say we have a repeater with VFO A frequency at 145.20 mHz and a
 negative offset of 0.6 mHz. So my transmit frequency needs to be
 144.60

 What should my table row look like?  What goes in the VFO B cell?

 Name  VFO AVFO BoffsetPL tone ABC club 145.20
 _-0.6   82.5

 A related question (why I can't figure out the above) is where on the
 K3 I could actually see the result.  Is there some way I can display
 the frequency I am transmitting on using the display screen of the
 K3?

 Do I need to set the K3 to split before using a repeater, in addition
 to setting the above?

 If there is a pre-fab dummy guide for repeater set-up, please point
 me toward it!

 Finally, I have not figured out the squelch yet either.  is there a
 set-up guide for squelch?

 Clearly this radio is amazingly flexible, and I need to keep on
 studying! THANKS for your help! Julie KT4JR in Raleigh, NC

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[Elecraft] newbie setup questions on memory editor repeater setup

2012-03-14 Thread Julie Royster

Hi from KT4JR, wife of K4MWE, and new co-owner of a K3 with 144mHz
transverter built in.
I have not been able to understand how repeaters are supposed to be set up
and I am hoping some kind spirit out there can clarify for me.

I have entered the repeater frequency in the VFO A cell of the memory editor
on the computer.
I have selected FM so that offset and PL tone choices appear next to the VFO
B cell.
I can put in the offset and PL tone, but do I enter a frequency in the VFO B
cell?
I can't tell whether the program would apply the offset to the VFO A
frequency or to the VFO B frequency, so I don't know whether to put the same
entry in A and in B, put the actual transmit frequency in B, leave B blank,
or what.

Say we have a repeater with VFO A frequency at 145.20 mHz and a negative
offset of 0.6 mHz.
So my transmit frequency needs to be 144.60

What should my table row look like?  What goes in the VFO B cell?

Name  VFO AVFO BoffsetPL tone
ABC club 145.20   _-0.6   82.5 

A related question (why I can't figure out the above) is where on the K3 I
could actually see the result.  Is there some way I can display the
frequency I am transmitting on using the display screen of the K3?

Do I need to set the K3 to split before using a repeater, in addition to
setting the above?

If there is a pre-fab dummy guide for repeater set-up, please point me
toward it!

Finally, I have not figured out the squelch yet either.  is there a set-up
guide for squelch?  

Clearly this radio is amazingly flexible, and I need to keep on studying!
THANKS for your help!
Julie KT4JR in Raleigh, NC

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...

2009-11-18 Thread Jon K Hellan

Phil Hystad wrote:
 I am not a K3 owner but I plan to be sometime soon.  I am still in my 
 research stage where I want to learn as much as I can about the K3 before I 
 buy.  I do have a couple of questions...
 
 1.  Are there options that I would be foolish not to get right up front?  My 
 plan is to at least get the 100 watt option and I am seriously considering 
 the ATU.

Get the ATU. For me, it's tuned everything my manual MFJ tuner would tune.
If you're interested in digital or CW, get a narrow filter - I'd say 400 or 500 
Hz.

73
Jon LA4RT
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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...

2009-11-18 Thread d.cutter

Agree about the ATU, astonishing.  If you use a multiband doublet, say, get the 
atu.

Most folk advise that filters are only to needed if you are in a contest with 
*very* strong signals or if you have a close neighbour with very strong signal. 
 If you are not sure about spending the money, try the K3 on your usual 
activities then retrofit only if needed.  Mostly, bringing in the attenuator 
will do that job.  

David
G3UNA


 Jon K Hellan hel...@acm.org wrote: 
 Phil Hystad wrote:
  I am not a K3 owner but I plan to be sometime soon.  I am still in my 
  research stage where I want to learn as much as I can about the K3 before I 
  buy.  I do have a couple of questions...
  
  1.  Are there options that I would be foolish not to get right up front?  
  My plan is to at least get the 100 watt option and I am seriously 
  considering the ATU.
 
 Get the ATU. For me, it's tuned everything my manual MFJ tuner would tune.
 If you're interested in digital or CW, get a narrow filter - I'd say 400 or 
 500 Hz.
 
 73
 Jon LA4RT
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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...

2009-11-18 Thread Matt Zilmer

Ditto - get the ATU.  Very useful for non-resonant (er, non-50 ohm
feedpoint) antennas.

I run the ATU on a 160m dipole used on all bands 160m - 10m.  No
worries.  Just make sure the feedline is 1/8-wave on the lowest band
and the ATU will bring your K3 50 + j0 ohms.

I also use the ATU on a homebrew vertical for 40-30-20-17m.  It helps
touch up the SWR just a little at the band ends.

Early on, I found that running the ATU in the presence of RF feedback
generally doesn't work so well.  Just what I was taught (the K3 was
unhappy too).  But the right choice of long wire length will let it do
its thing comfortably.  Just make sure the feedpoint is reasonably
distant from the shack.

73,
matt W6NIA
K3 #24


On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:59:31 +0100, you wrote:

Phil Hystad wrote:
 I am not a K3 owner but I plan to be sometime soon.  I am still in my 
 research stage where I want to learn as much as I can about the K3 before I 
 buy.  I do have a couple of questions...
 
 1.  Are there options that I would be foolish not to get right up front?  My 
 plan is to at least get the 100 watt option and I am seriously considering 
 the ATU.

Get the ATU. For me, it's tuned everything my manual MFJ tuner would tune.
If you're interested in digital or CW, get a narrow filter - I'd say 400 or 
500 Hz.

73
Jon LA4RT
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[Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...subreceiver module

2009-11-18 Thread Phil Hystad

Gang,

Thanks for all the great e-mails and answers to my first round of K3 questions. 
 Lots of good information and advice.  I do have a few more questions but I 
will limit these of one question at a time.


Several people have advised to get the sub-receiver option.  Now, this really 
puts me on the fence as I have a sub-receiver in my Icom Pro III and I almost 
never use it.  Actually, I have never used it in an actual QSO, I have merely 
played with it from time to time.

So, my first question is, Why do I want a sub-receiver?...

Maybe a little about my background helps.  I got into ham radio as a novice 
(WN7ECQ) back in the mid-1960s.  Ham radio was very rudimentary back then with 
CW mode only, a transmitter and a few crystals, but a very good receiver 
(Hammarlund, HQ-170AC).  Then, after the Novice one-year license expired I let 
the hobby go silent for 38 years.  I was relicensed and back on the air in 
February/March 2004 with a used Icom 756 transceiver.

But, my operating style reflects a lot of my Novice experience rooted in the 
technology and practices of the 1960s.  Mostly CW, some SSB for some of the 
evening nets and other stuff when the band is hot and a periodically scheduled 
SSB QSO with some of my ham friends from back in those 1960 days.  Not much of 
a contester but I very much like the technology aspect, experimentation, SDR, 
and so on.  And, I am always looking to do new things that capture my interest.

So, I may be missing out on a huge corner of this hobby by not even knowing how 
someone makes use of a sub-receiver.  Thus, my question.

73,
phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...subreceiver module

2009-11-18 Thread WILLIS COOKE

Maybe you don't need the sub-reciever Phil, but I have one and I use it a lot.

Here is what I do.  When I am working split, I tune the DX with the main 
receiver then push the AB button to get the same frequency into the 
sub-receiver and press sub.  I adjust the volume on the sub and then when I 
determine as much as I can about where he is listening from him, the jerks on 
his frequency and the cluster I go  looking for a spot to call with the main 
receiver.  I can listen to my transmit frequency to be sure there is not a QSO 
on it while I listen to the DX and make my calls.  If the propagation is right 
and I am lucky, sometimes I can find where the DX is working and get a little 
advantage.

Sometimes when I am monitoring a dead band, like ten or six I sit one receiver 
on the SSB calling frequency and one on the CW calling frequency.

The sub-receiver must not be essential because a lot of us were using K3s 
before it was available.  But I sure like to have the sub-receiver and use it a 
lot.

Ancient Age is no excuse.  I am 69 years young and been licensed since 1956.  
My first rig was a BC-455 Command Receiver and a home brew 6AG7/6BQ6 
transmitter that ran 35 watts input and maybe 20 watts output as guessed with a 
40 watt light bulb about half brilliance.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Phil Hystad k7...@comcast.net
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 11:23:06 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...subreceiver module

Gang,

Thanks for all the great e-mails and answers to my first round of K3 
questions.  Lots of good information and advice.  I do have a few more 
questions but I will limit these of one question at a time.


Several people have advised to get the sub-receiver option.  Now, this really 
puts me on the fence as I have a sub-receiver in my Icom Pro III and I almost 
never use it.  Actually, I have never used it in an actual QSO, I have merely 
played with it from time to time.

So, my first question is, Why do I want a sub-receiver?...

Maybe a little about my background helps.  I got into ham radio as a novice 
(WN7ECQ) back in the mid-1960s.  Ham radio was very rudimentary back then with 
CW mode only, a transmitter and a few crystals, but a very good receiver 
(Hammarlund, HQ-170AC).  Then, after the Novice one-year license expired I let 
the hobby go silent for 38 years.  I was relicensed and back on the air in 
February/March 2004 with a used Icom 756 transceiver.

But, my operating style reflects a lot of my Novice experience rooted in the 
technology and practices of the 1960s.  Mostly CW, some SSB for some of the 
evening nets and other stuff when the band is hot and a periodically scheduled 
SSB QSO with some of my ham friends from back in those 1960 days.  Not much of 
a contester but I very much like the technology aspect, experimentation, SDR, 
and so on.  And, I am always looking to do new things that capture my interest.

So, I may be missing out on a huge corner of this hobby by not even knowing how 
someone makes use of a sub-receiver.  Thus, my question.

73,
phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...subreceiver module

2009-11-18 Thread Vic K2VCO

Phil Hystad wrote:

 So, my first question is, Why do I want a sub-receiver?...

I use it for two things:

1) Diversity reception. I find that weak CW reception is greatly improved with 
diversity. 
For example, on 40M, I use a dipole connected to the main antenna and a small 
vertical on 
the subreceiver. When the signal fades on one antenna, it often comes up on the 
other. And 
the response to noise seems to be different in the two receivers. The result it 
that far 
fewer characters are 'questionable', and copy is easier.

2) Pileups. I listen to the DX station on the main receiver and the pileup in 
the sub; the 
K3 is in split mode so it will transmit on the sub's frequency.  I have the K3 
set up to 
use the same antenna in this case, but I use a narrow bandwidth in the main and 
a wider 
one in the sub. I have set the K3 to send the main signal to both ears and the 
sub only to 
the left in this mode. This allows me to easily pick out the station that the 
DX is 
working and be on the right frequency when I call him.

This sounds complicated, but the K3 is designed to do this stuff (the antenna 
setup is 
sticky for diversity/non-diversity, and the channelization of the audio only 
affects 
non-diversity). Combined with the macro capability, it takes ONE button-press 
on the K3 to 
activate either of these modes.

-- 
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...subreceiver module

2009-11-18 Thread Phil Hystad

Dave,

Thanks for your comments and I do agree with the notion that given that the K3 
is so modular that ...you can always add it later  -- albeit, with a but and 
a however...

But and However -- I hear that there is an extra degree of complexity and 
rework to put in the sub-receiver later so if I think I might want it later 
then it behooves me to get it up front.  Now, I am still on the fence, it may 
come down to the cost of the whole configuration.

phil

On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Dave, W8OV wrote:

 Phil Hystad wrote:
 Gang,
 Thanks for all the great e-mails and answers to my first round of K3 
 questions.  Lots of good information and advice.  I do have a few more 
 questions but I will limit these of one question at a time.
 Several people have advised to get the sub-receiver option.  Now, this 
 really puts me on the fence as I have a sub-receiver in my Icom Pro III and 
 I almost never use it.  Actually, I have never used it in an actual QSO, I 
 have merely played with it from time to time.
 So, my first question is, Why do I want a sub-receiver?...
 Maybe a little about my background helps.  I got into ham radio as a novice 
 (WN7ECQ) back in the mid-1960s.  Ham radio was very rudimentary back then 
 with CW mode only, a transmitter and a few crystals, but a very good 
 receiver (Hammarlund, HQ-170AC).  Then, after the Novice one-year license 
 expired I let the hobby go silent for 38 years.  I was relicensed and back 
 on the air in February/March 2004 with a used Icom 756 transceiver.
 But, my operating style reflects a lot of my Novice experience rooted in the 
 technology and practices of the 1960s.  Mostly CW, some SSB for some of the 
 evening nets and other stuff when the band is hot and a periodically 
 scheduled SSB QSO with some of my ham friends from back in those 1960 days.  
 Not much of a contester but I very much like the technology aspect, 
 experimentation, SDR, and so on.  And, I am always looking to do new things 
 that capture my interest.
 So, I may be missing out on a huge corner of this hobby by not even knowing 
 how someone makes use of a sub-receiver.  Thus, my question.
 73,
 phil, K7PEH
 
 Phil,
 
 My operating sounds somewhat like yours.  Mostly casual ragchewing, piddling 
 around in contests, but not seriously.  I had a subreceiver in my previous 
 transceiver, but decided to save the money when I ordered the K3.  I don't 
 miss it at all.  I am able to work split without it on the few occasions I 
 need it.  The beauty of the modular system is that if you decide you need it, 
 you can always add it later.
 
 73,
 
 Dave, W8OV

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...subreceiver module

2009-11-18 Thread Don Wilhelm

Phil,

Believe me, it is not much more trouble to install the SubRX later than 
it is during the initial construction.
I think the biggest headache of adding the SubRX is  routing the 
cables.   Some will say that removing the Front Panel to add the 2nd DSP 
board is the hardest part, but if you have assembled your K3 from the 
kit version, it will be easy for you.  That feeling of difficulty is 
natural for those who have purchased a factory built K3.  One of the 
advantages of building the kit version is that you do become familiar 
with how it goes together.

I would even say that if you are mostly a casual operator (and 
especially if you are working on a budget), you may want to order only 
the basic K3 (plus KAT3 if you do not have all resonant antennas) and 
operate it for a while before deciding on the additional filters and 
options that you would like to have in it.  Once the SubRX is in place, 
adding filters to the main board is more difficult, so you ideally would 
want to determine the filter set you want to end up in both the main and 
SubRX before actually adding the SubRX - that is only my opinion, others 
may (and will) differ.

73,
Don W3FPR

Phil Hystad wrote:
 Dave,

 Thanks for your comments and I do agree with the notion that given that the 
 K3 is so modular that ...you can always add it later  -- albeit, with a but 
 and a however...

 But and However -- I hear that there is an extra degree of complexity and 
 rework to put in the sub-receiver later so if I think I might want it later 
 then it behooves me to get it up front.  Now, I am still on the fence, it may 
 come down to the cost of the whole configuration.

 phil
   

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...subreceiver module

2009-11-18 Thread Andrew Faber

Phil,
 It's no big deal to add the subrx later.  Don't make a decision based on 
that as an issue.
  73, andy, ae6y
- Original Message - 
From: Phil Hystad k7...@comcast.net
To: Dave, W8OV w...@verizon.net
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...subreceiver module

 Dave,

 Thanks for your comments and I do agree with the notion that given that 
 the K3 is so modular that ...you can always add it later  -- albeit, 
 with a but and a however...

 But and However -- I hear that there is an extra degree of complexity and 
 rework to put in the sub-receiver later so if I think I might want it 
 later then it behooves me to get it up front.  Now, I am still on the 
 fence, it may come down to the cost of the whole configuration.

 phil

 On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Dave, W8OV wrote:

 Phil Hystad wrote:
 Gang,
 Thanks for all the great e-mails and answers to my first round of K3 
 questions.  Lots of good information and advice.  I do have a few more 
 questions but I will limit these of one question at a time.
 Several people have advised to get the sub-receiver option.  Now, this 
 really puts me on the fence as I have a sub-receiver in my Icom Pro III 
 and I almost never use it.  Actually, I have never used it in an actual 
 QSO, I have merely played with it from time to time.
 So, my first question is, Why do I want a sub-receiver?...
 Maybe a little about my background helps.  I got into ham radio as a 
 novice (WN7ECQ) back in the mid-1960s.  Ham radio was very rudimentary 
 back then with CW mode only, a transmitter and a few crystals, but a 
 very good receiver (Hammarlund, HQ-170AC).  Then, after the Novice 
 one-year license expired I let the hobby go silent for 38 years.  I was 
 relicensed and back on the air in February/March 2004 with a used Icom 
 756 transceiver.
 But, my operating style reflects a lot of my Novice experience rooted in 
 the technology and practices of the 1960s.  Mostly CW, some SSB for some 
 of the evening nets and other stuff when the band is hot and a 
 periodically scheduled SSB QSO with some of my ham friends from back in 
 those 1960 days.  Not much of a contester but I very much like the 
 technology aspect, experimentation, SDR, and so on.  And, I am always 
 looking to do new things that capture my interest.
 So, I may be missing out on a huge corner of this hobby by not even 
 knowing how someone makes use of a sub-receiver.  Thus, my question.
 73,
 phil, K7PEH

 Phil,

 My operating sounds somewhat like yours.  Mostly casual ragchewing, 
 piddling around in contests, but not seriously.  I had a subreceiver in 
 my previous transceiver, but decided to save the money when I ordered the 
 K3.  I don't miss it at all.  I am able to work split without it on the 
 few occasions I need it.  The beauty of the modular system is that if you 
 decide you need it, you can always add it later.

 73,

 Dave, W8OV

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...subreceiver module

2009-11-18 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire

Phil wrote: 

I hear that there is an extra degree of complexity and rework to put in the
sub-receiver later so if I think I might want it later then it behooves me
to get it up front.  Now, I am still on the fence, it may come down to the
cost of the whole configuration.

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Phil, go to www.elecraft.com and download the KRX3 manual. It contains the
full installation instructions written for someone who may have never opened
up a K3 before. That should give you a good idea of the amount of work
involved. 

Ron AC7AC


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[Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...

2009-11-17 Thread Phil Hystad

I am not a K3 owner but I plan to be sometime soon.  I am still in my research 
stage where I want to learn as much as I can about the K3 before I buy.  I do 
have a couple of questions...

1.  Are there options that I would be foolish not to get right up front?  My 
plan is to at least get the 100 watt option and I am seriously considering the 
ATU.


2.  Are there any custom ICs or other esoteric parts on the K3 that might limit 
its ultimate future repair life?  I have already had an old Icom 756 be judged 
passed repair do to the in-availability of a few needed ICs.


3.  Is the kit difficult to put together?  I have done a few easier kits, such 
as the Norcal40A and a few other small things of easier effort.


Thanks,
73, phil
K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...

2009-11-17 Thread Lyle Johnson

 2.  Are there any custom ICs or other esoteric parts on the K3 that might 
 limit its ultimate future repair life?  I have already had an old Icom 756 be 
 judged passed repair do to the in-availability of a few needed ICs.

There are no custom ICs.  There is a custom LCD display, and of course 
the cabinetry and knobs.

 3.  Is the kit difficult to put together?  I have done a few easier kits, 
 such as the Norcal40A and a few other small things of easier effort.

This is a no soldering kit.  You do have to assemble the power cable, 
and if you lack a Powerpole crimper then you have to either solder it or 
order an assembled power cable.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...

2009-11-17 Thread Don Wilhelm

Phil,

I can try to answer your questions.
1) All options are easily installed.  The hardest option to install is 
an additional filter for the main receiver when the Sub RX is also 
installed because the SubRX must be lifted to gain access to the main 
receiver filter slots.  Since you did not mention the SubRX with your 
initial purchase, that would not be a concern.
2) There are no custom ICs used in the design that I am aware of.
3) The kit requires no soldering (other than the APP connector on the 
power cable), so it is more akin to assembling a computer from a case 
and motherboard and plug-in cards.  There is the construction of the 
case involved, but that is mechanical assembly, just follow the 
instructions and use a good #1 phillips screwdriver.  It is not 
difficult unless your manual dexterity is poor.

73,
Don W3FPR

Phil Hystad wrote:
 I am not a K3 owner but I plan to be sometime soon.  I am still in my 
 research stage where I want to learn as much as I can about the K3 before I 
 buy.  I do have a couple of questions...

 1.  Are there options that I would be foolish not to get right up front?  My 
 plan is to at least get the 100 watt option and I am seriously considering 
 the ATU.


 2.  Are there any custom ICs or other esoteric parts on the K3 that might 
 limit its ultimate future repair life?  I have already had an old Icom 756 be 
 judged passed repair do to the in-availability of a few needed ICs.


 3.  Is the kit difficult to put together?  I have done a few easier kits, 
 such as the Norcal40A and a few other small things of easier effort.

   

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3...

2009-11-17 Thread Mike

Phil -
I put mine together a month ago. It's not difficult, but it is tedious. 
It took me about 12-14 hours.
You'll need an anti static mat and wristband. I ordered mine from Radio 
Shack (276-2370).

I got the 100W PA, ATU, 6M preamp and 2.8, 400 and 250 8 pole filters. 
That suits my operating preferences, SSB, CW and digital. Consider what 
you do. It's not difficult to add pieces later, and if you build it, 
you'll already know how.

There is a learning curve associated with operating it to it's fullest, 
but it's a really fun ride. Go for it.

73, Mike NF4L


Phil Hystad wrote:
 I am not a K3 owner but I plan to be sometime soon.  I am still in my 
 research stage where I want to learn as much as I can about the K3 before I 
 buy.  I do have a couple of questions...

 1.  Are there options that I would be foolish not to get right up front?  My 
 plan is to at least get the 100 watt option and I am seriously considering 
 the ATU.


 2.  Are there any custom ICs or other esoteric parts on the K3 that might 
 limit its ultimate future repair life?  I have already had an old Icom 756 be 
 judged passed repair do to the in-availability of a few needed ICs.


 3.  Is the kit difficult to put together?  I have done a few easier kits, 
 such as the Norcal40A and a few other small things of easier effort.


 Thanks,
 73, phil
 K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie Questions for K3

2009-11-17 Thread Fred Atchley

Phil, you pose some great questions. Here goes:

 

1.  The one option I would not get is the high accuracy oscillator.but
that's just me.

 

2.  As far as esoteric parts are concerned, Maybe Eric or Wayne should
answer that one.

I had an Orion 1 a couple of years back. But it did not have an internal
tuner. At that time 

There was no upgrade path, so I looked into the Orion 2. (Too expensive) but
then learned 

That the manufacturer of the signal processor in the Orion 1 had
discontinued their part!

I don't know what became of that issue but I didn't want to become a victim
of passed repair.

I tried an OMNI VII for a few months but its receiver didn't measure up to
the Orion's.

That's when I decided to try the K3 kit and I have been totally happy with
it and support.

 

3.  Assembly is a piece of cake, even for a 73 year old like me. There
is one caveat.

Protect your investment by using electrostatic pad and wrist strap.

 

Hope this helps. 73, Fred AE6IC

 

 

 

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[Elecraft] Newbie question

2009-07-05 Thread Jim Bobo

My new K3 has no output. It is not in test mode. The sidetone is normal, 
the receiver quiets when I key it but no output. Probably I've done 
something wrong. TIA

Jim
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Re: [Elecraft] Newbie question

2009-07-05 Thread Lyle Johnson

Jim Bobo wrote:
 My new K3 has no output. It is not in test mode. The sidetone is normal, 
 the receiver quiets when I key it but no output. Probably I've done 
 something wrong. 

Be sure you have either pressed the XMIT switch, or have VOX enabled for 
the Tx to activate in CW mode.

73,

Lyle kK7P

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