Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

[Richard Fjeld]

That is what I was using.

Dick, n0ce


On 7/31/2016 11:38 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Edge is a bit lame until the new release (Tues is it?); won't take 
plug-ins, they say.


I prefer Firefox :-)

Phil W7OX

On 7/31/16 9:17 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

I agree with Guy, and want to add a comment;

I have had a couple strange things happen.  Both turned out to be due 
to running a non-Windows browser.


Before you cuss out Windows 10, try the user groups for clues. Save 
yourself some time and make Microsoft Edge your default browser.


Dick, n0ce


On 7/31/2016 11:10 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
After waiting 6 months I gave in to the Windows 10 nagware, and 
upgraded my

and my wife's Win 7 Pro machines.

Regardless of how one might compare Windows and Linux, both our 
conversions
have been stable as a rock, apparently the best version of Windoze 
that we

have ever had.

Running ham stuff on Win 10 is a better deal now. It was a little 
spooky
not being able to closely control the upgrades in Win 10, but that 
hasn't

made any difference thus far.

YMMV, but have a really good reason to go to Linux. You may want to 
try Win
10 before you invest all those resources (including your valuable 
time) in

a conversion to Linux.

73, Guy K2AV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

[Phil Wheeler]

Edge is a bit lame until the new release (Tues is 
it?); won't take plug-ins, they say.


I prefer Firefox :-)

Phil W7OX

On 7/31/16 9:17 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

I agree with Guy, and want to add a comment;

I have had a couple strange things happen.  Both 
turned out to be due to running a non-Windows 
browser.


Before you cuss out Windows 10, try the user 
groups for clues. Save yourself some time and 
make Microsoft Edge your default browser.


Dick, n0ce


On 7/31/2016 11:10 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
After waiting 6 months I gave in to the Windows 
10 nagware, and upgraded my

and my wife's Win 7 Pro machines.

Regardless of how one might compare Windows and 
Linux, both our conversions
have been stable as a rock, apparently the best 
version of Windoze that we

have ever had.

Running ham stuff on Win 10 is a better deal 
now. It was a little spooky
not being able to closely control the upgrades 
in Win 10, but that hasn't

made any difference thus far.

YMMV, but have a really good reason to go to 
Linux. You may want to try Win
10 before you invest all those resources 
(including your valuable time) in

a conversion to Linux.

73, Guy K2AV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

[Richard Fjeld]

I agree with Guy, and want to add a comment;

I have had a couple strange things happen.  Both turned out to be due to 
running a non-Windows browser.


Before you cuss out Windows 10, try the user groups for clues.  Save 
yourself some time and make Microsoft Edge your default browser.


Dick, n0ce


On 7/31/2016 11:10 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

After waiting 6 months I gave in to the Windows 10 nagware, and upgraded my
and my wife's Win 7 Pro machines.

Regardless of how one might compare Windows and Linux, both our conversions
have been stable as a rock, apparently the best version of Windoze that we
have ever had.

Running ham stuff on Win 10 is a better deal now. It was a little spooky
not being able to closely control the upgrades in Win 10, but that hasn't
made any difference thus far.

YMMV, but have a really good reason to go to Linux. You may want to try Win
10 before you invest all those resources (including your valuable time) in
a conversion to Linux.

73, Guy K2AV



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux

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* On 2016 31 Jul 06:03 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
 
> Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
> versions at this time.  If you use a distribution that allows
> 'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
> i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64.  Ubuntu,
> and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations.  You will
> probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.

To help, I've posted a short note on my blog about enabling multiarch
and which i386 packages need to be installed.  So far I have tested the
K3 and P3 utilities:

http://www.n0nb.us/blog/2016/07/running-electraft-utilities-on-linux-amd64-and-multiarch/

73, Nate

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2016 31 Jul 10:35 -0500, Anthony Scandurra wrote:

> I prefer to run apps in their native environment.  Once my favorite
> programs DXLab and N1MM+ are able to run in Linux natively, I will switch
> to Linux in a heartbeat!

I suspect the sun will go dark first...

;-)

73, Nate

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

[Don Wilhelm]

I have to agree with Guy.  I have 7 computers on my home network and the 
only one still running Win7 is the one at the workbench, which is soon 
to be replaced because it just runs too slow, and would not upgrade to 
Win10 anyway.
No problems running any ham software on Win10, and the OS seems to be 
quite solid.


In the past, I have tried the switch to Linux, but had numerous 
problems.  My conclusion was that anyone who just wanted a stand-alone 
computer for web surfing, email and document creation can do that easily 
with Linux, Firefox, Thunderbird and LibreOffice.  Unfortunately, 
getting communications between networked computers is much more complex, 
particularly if the installed network is Windows based.  I gave up, 
Windows may have its complexities, but it installs easily and "just runs".
If you want to become a computer geek, then have at it with Linux - the 
support is a mixed bag of geek talk and insults if you do not understand 
their language.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/31/2016 12:10 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

After waiting 6 months I gave in to the Windows 10 nagware, and upgraded my
and my wife's Win 7 Pro machines.

Regardless of how one might compare Windows and Linux, both our conversions
have been stable as a rock, apparently the best version of Windoze that we
have ever had.

Running ham stuff on Win 10 is a better deal now. It was a little spooky
not being able to closely control the upgrades in Win 10, but that hasn't
made any difference thus far.

YMMV, but have a really good reason to go to Linux. You may want to try Win
10 before you invest all those resources (including your valuable time) in
a conversion to Linux.

73, Guy K2AV



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

After waiting 6 months I gave in to the Windows 10 nagware, and upgraded my
and my wife's Win 7 Pro machines.

Regardless of how one might compare Windows and Linux, both our conversions
have been stable as a rock, apparently the best version of Windoze that we
have ever had.

Running ham stuff on Win 10 is a better deal now. It was a little spooky
not being able to closely control the upgrades in Win 10, but that hasn't
made any difference thus far.

YMMV, but have a really good reason to go to Linux. You may want to try Win
10 before you invest all those resources (including your valuable time) in
a conversion to Linux.

73, Guy K2AV

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Anthony Scandurra <
anthony.scandu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> WINE = *W*ine *I*s *N*ot an *E*mulator
>
> You don't run Windows in WINE.  You run Windows programs that are then
> presented the Windows APIs by WINE.  Think of WINE as a translator, not an
> emulator.
>
> I otherwise agree with your sentiment.
>
> I prefer to run apps in their native environment.  Once my favorite
> programs DXLab and N1MM+ are able to run in Linux natively, I will switch
> to Linux in a heartbeat!
>
> 73, Tony K4QE
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Mike Rhodes  wrote:
>
> >   Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C programming
> > on a real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I learned about
> > that system (and C).
> >   However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting away
> > from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately slapping a
> > fully licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an emulator, on that
> Linux
> > box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive but counter-productive.
> Since
> > the majority of the apps that I wish to run are strictly Windows based,
> it
> > just seems to make more sense to run the real thing natively. If the
> intent
> > is to not add more to the Gates billions then you have defeated that by
> > running under an emulator.
> >
> > Mike / W8DN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

[Kevin]

Virtual Box is free for non-commercial users. You've got to have some 
pretty good hardware meaning dual core processor, as much memory as you 
can afford and a good video card.


I have it running on a quad core AMD @ 4.0GHz, 32G of DDR3 ram, and a 
small time gamer class video card. I have four virtual machines 
installed, XP, Win7 which gets used the most, Windows 10, and for old 
times sake DOS 6.22 to run Castle Wolfenstein. The hard drives are a 
pair of 512 Gig SSD's. I don't run an Linux distro VM because the 
accessibility options for the Linux desktop just plain suck compared to 
Windows.


You can run Windows on a Linux/FreeBSD host and don't have to dork 
around trying to get WINE running correctly. WINES days are numbered.



On 7/31/2016 10:28 AM, a45wg wrote:

Mike,
What you are possibly getting a little confused is

WINE - which sort of allows Windows executables to run in a Linux 
environment. How well this solution works depends upon the Application, and the 
DLL’s. This was initially intended for XP/Win NT. Since lots of Windows apps 
are now .NET Assemblies this is more tricky to use, as Mono has not been fully 
embraced by the Open-Source community.

Virtualisation - Oracle-Virtual Box (KVM and VMware) allows you to run 
a different OS (Operating System) machine in another environment (in this case 
in a Linux Environment). This solution is the most stable - but at the costs of 
further enriching a large US Multi-National. A very good technique and one used 
in Data Centres around the world.

Welcome on-board - there may be a few bumps on the way - but you are at 
least on the right path.

73s - A45WG

 Tim, Muscat:  Sultanate  of Oman





On 31 Jul 2016, at 19:18, Mike Rhodes  wrote:

  Ok, I already see I have misunderstood something. I mistakenly thought Wine 
was an emulator that would allow you to run a copy of Windows on Linux where it 
is actually a Windows on Linux simulator. That answers at least part of my 
question.

Mike / W8DN

On 7/31/2016 11:14 AM, Mike Rhodes wrote:

  Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C programming on a 
real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I learned about that system 
(and C).
  However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting away from "windoze" 
by going to a Linux box and then immediately slapping a fully licensed copy of "Windoze", 
running under an emulator, on that Linux box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive but 
counter-productive. Since the majority of the apps that I wish to run are strictly Windows based, 
it just seems to make more sense to run the real thing natively. If the intent is to not add more 
to the Gates billions then you have defeated that by running under an emulator.

Mike / W8DN

On 7/31/2016 10:39 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:

All the Elecraft utilities I use work fine on Wine, under Ubuntu 16.04.  Using Wine 
dodges the multiarch requirement, and it seems 100% compatible with all Windoze API 
calls the utilities make.  If you decide to go this way, you'll have to make a 
symlink between /dev/tty to COM1 in dos_devices.  If your serial port 
under Linux is /dev/ttyUSB0, in a terminal type

ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1

[Also, see 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/685985/symbolic-link-between-usb-and-com-port].

The Linux native utilities are ported from Win32 to the Linux 32-bit API.

73,

matt W6NIA


On 7/31/2016 4:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:

* On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:

I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under Linux
works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and straight
forward as their Windows software?

K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.

Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
versions at this time.  If you use a distribution that allows
'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.

It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.

73, Nate


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

[Anthony Scandurra]

Mike,

WINE = *W*ine *I*s *N*ot an *E*mulator

You don't run Windows in WINE.  You run Windows programs that are then
presented the Windows APIs by WINE.  Think of WINE as a translator, not an
emulator.

I otherwise agree with your sentiment.

I prefer to run apps in their native environment.  Once my favorite
programs DXLab and N1MM+ are able to run in Linux natively, I will switch
to Linux in a heartbeat!

73, Tony K4QE

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Mike Rhodes  wrote:

>   Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C programming
> on a real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I learned about
> that system (and C).
>   However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting away
> from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately slapping a
> fully licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an emulator, on that Linux
> box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive but counter-productive. Since
> the majority of the apps that I wish to run are strictly Windows based, it
> just seems to make more sense to run the real thing natively. If the intent
> is to not add more to the Gates billions then you have defeated that by
> running under an emulator.
>
> Mike / W8DN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

[a45wg]

Mike,
What you are possibly getting a little confused is

WINE - which sort of allows Windows executables to run in a Linux 
environment. How well this solution works depends upon the Application, and the 
DLL’s. This was initially intended for XP/Win NT. Since lots of Windows apps 
are now .NET Assemblies this is more tricky to use, as Mono has not been fully 
embraced by the Open-Source community.

Virtualisation - Oracle-Virtual Box (KVM and VMware) allows you to run 
a different OS (Operating System) machine in another environment (in this case 
in a Linux Environment). This solution is the most stable - but at the costs of 
further enriching a large US Multi-National. A very good technique and one used 
in Data Centres around the world.

Welcome on-board - there may be a few bumps on the way - but you are at 
least on the right path.

73s - A45WG

 Tim, Muscat:  Sultanate  of Oman




> On 31 Jul 2016, at 19:18, Mike Rhodes  wrote:
> 
>  Ok, I already see I have misunderstood something. I mistakenly thought Wine 
> was an emulator that would allow you to run a copy of Windows on Linux where 
> it is actually a Windows on Linux simulator. That answers at least part of my 
> question.
> 
> Mike / W8DN
> 
> On 7/31/2016 11:14 AM, Mike Rhodes wrote:
>>  Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C programming on a 
>> real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I learned about that 
>> system (and C).
>>  However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting away 
>> from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately slapping a fully 
>> licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an emulator, on that Linux box. It 
>> just seems not only counter-intuitive but counter-productive. Since the 
>> majority of the apps that I wish to run are strictly Windows based, it just 
>> seems to make more sense to run the real thing natively. If the intent is to 
>> not add more to the Gates billions then you have defeated that by running 
>> under an emulator.
>> 
>> Mike / W8DN
>> 
>> On 7/31/2016 10:39 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
>>> All the Elecraft utilities I use work fine on Wine, under Ubuntu 16.04.  
>>> Using Wine dodges the multiarch requirement, and it seems 100% compatible 
>>> with all Windoze API calls the utilities make.  If you decide to go this 
>>> way, you'll have to make a symlink between /dev/tty to COM1 in 
>>> dos_devices.  If your serial port under Linux is /dev/ttyUSB0, in a 
>>> terminal type
>>> 
>>>ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1
>>> 
>>> [Also, see 
>>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/685985/symbolic-link-between-usb-and-com-port].
>>> 
>>> The Linux native utilities are ported from Win32 to the Linux 32-bit API.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> matt W6NIA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/31/2016 4:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
 * On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:
> I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under 
> Linux
> works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and 
> straight
> forward as their Windows software?
> 
> K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.
 Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
 versions at this time.  If you use a distribution that allows
 'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
 i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
 and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
 probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.
 
 It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.
 
 73, Nate
 
>>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

[Matt Zilmer]

This isn't really an Elecraft topic, but ... please see 
https://www.winehq.org/license.


You're right, imho.  If you have a ton of Windoze software, you should 
stay with Windoze.  Many users have transitioned to Linux recently, 
particularly after the Win10 nagware episode(s).  Some of them have Win 
software they'd like to keep using.  In most cases, wine is a acceptable 
and valid option for doing that.  If the packages they're running are 
already paid for, it doesn't put any additional $ in M$'s pocket.


73,

matt W6NIA


On 7/31/2016 8:14 AM, Mike Rhodes wrote:
  Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C 
programming on a real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I 
learned about that system (and C).
  However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting 
away from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately 
slapping a fully licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an 
emulator, on that Linux box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive 
but counter-productive. Since the majority of the apps that I wish to 
run are strictly Windows based, it just seems to make more sense to 
run the real thing natively. If the intent is to not add more to the 
Gates billions then you have defeated that by running under an emulator.


Mike / W8DN

On 7/31/2016 10:39 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
All the Elecraft utilities I use work fine on Wine, under Ubuntu 
16.04.  Using Wine dodges the multiarch requirement, and it seems 
100% compatible with all Windoze API calls the utilities make.  If 
you decide to go this way, you'll have to make a symlink between 
/dev/tty to COM1 in dos_devices.  If your serial port under 
Linux is /dev/ttyUSB0, in a terminal type


ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1

[Also, see 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/685985/symbolic-link-between-usb-and-com-port].


The Linux native utilities are ported from Win32 to the Linux 32-bit 
API.


73,

matt W6NIA


On 7/31/2016 4:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:

* On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:
I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software 
under Linux
works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and 
straight

forward as their Windows software?

K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.

Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
versions at this time.  If you use a distribution that allows
'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.

It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.

73, Nate





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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

[Mike Rhodes]

  Ok, I already see I have misunderstood something. I mistakenly 
thought Wine was an emulator that would allow you to run a copy of 
Windows on Linux where it is actually a Windows on Linux simulator. That 
answers at least part of my question.


Mike / W8DN

On 7/31/2016 11:14 AM, Mike Rhodes wrote:
  Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C 
programming on a real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I 
learned about that system (and C).
  However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting 
away from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately 
slapping a fully licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an 
emulator, on that Linux box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive 
but counter-productive. Since the majority of the apps that I wish to 
run are strictly Windows based, it just seems to make more sense to 
run the real thing natively. If the intent is to not add more to the 
Gates billions then you have defeated that by running under an emulator.


Mike / W8DN

On 7/31/2016 10:39 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
All the Elecraft utilities I use work fine on Wine, under Ubuntu 
16.04.  Using Wine dodges the multiarch requirement, and it seems 
100% compatible with all Windoze API calls the utilities make.  If 
you decide to go this way, you'll have to make a symlink between 
/dev/tty to COM1 in dos_devices.  If your serial port under 
Linux is /dev/ttyUSB0, in a terminal type


ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1

[Also, see 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/685985/symbolic-link-between-usb-and-com-port].


The Linux native utilities are ported from Win32 to the Linux 32-bit 
API.


73,

matt W6NIA


On 7/31/2016 4:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:

* On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:
I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software 
under Linux
works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and 
straight

forward as their Windows software?

K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.

Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
versions at this time.  If you use a distribution that allows
'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.

It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.

73, Nate







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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux - OT

[Mike Rhodes]

  Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C 
programming on a real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I 
learned about that system (and C).
  However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting 
away from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately 
slapping a fully licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an emulator, 
on that Linux box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive but 
counter-productive. Since the majority of the apps that I wish to run 
are strictly Windows based, it just seems to make more sense to run the 
real thing natively. If the intent is to not add more to the Gates 
billions then you have defeated that by running under an emulator.


Mike / W8DN

On 7/31/2016 10:39 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
All the Elecraft utilities I use work fine on Wine, under Ubuntu 
16.04.  Using Wine dodges the multiarch requirement, and it seems 100% 
compatible with all Windoze API calls the utilities make.  If you 
decide to go this way, you'll have to make a symlink between 
/dev/tty to COM1 in dos_devices.  If your serial port under 
Linux is /dev/ttyUSB0, in a terminal type


ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1

[Also, see 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/685985/symbolic-link-between-usb-and-com-port].


The Linux native utilities are ported from Win32 to the Linux 32-bit API.

73,

matt W6NIA


On 7/31/2016 4:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:

* On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:
I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software 
under Linux
works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and 
straight

forward as their Windows software?

K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.

Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
versions at this time.  If you use a distribution that allows
'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.

It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.

73, Nate





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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux

[Matt Zilmer]

All the Elecraft utilities I use work fine on Wine, under Ubuntu 16.04.  
Using Wine dodges the multiarch requirement, and it seems 100% 
compatible with all Windoze API calls the utilities make.  If you decide 
to go this way, you'll have to make a symlink between /dev/tty 
to COM1 in dos_devices.  If your serial port under Linux is 
/dev/ttyUSB0, in a terminal type


ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1

[Also, see 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/685985/symbolic-link-between-usb-and-com-port].


The Linux native utilities are ported from Win32 to the Linux 32-bit API.

73,

matt W6NIA


On 7/31/2016 4:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:

* On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:

I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under Linux
works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and straight
forward as their Windows software?

K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.

Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
versions at this time.  If you use a distribution that allows
'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64.  Ubuntu,
and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations.  You will
probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.

It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.

73, Nate



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux

[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:
> I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under Linux
> works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and straight
> forward as their Windows software?
> 
> K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.

Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
versions at this time.  If you use a distribution that allows
'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64.  Ubuntu,
and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations.  You will
probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.

It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.

73, Nate

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux

[a45wg]

same here regarding the Elecraft SW

Tim A45wg
> On Jul 31, 2016, at 5:47 AM, Mike Markowski  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it is just as easy.  I have no trouble using it for firmware updates, 
> etc.
> 
> 73,
> Mike ab3ap
> 
> On 07/30/2016 09:38 PM, Bill wrote:
>> I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under
>> Linux works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy
>> and straight forward as their Windows software?
>> 
>> K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.
>> 
>> Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux

[Mike Markowski]

Yes, it is just as easy.  I have no trouble using it for firmware 
updates, etc.


73,
Mike ab3ap

On 07/30/2016 09:38 PM, Bill wrote:

I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under
Linux works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy
and straight forward as their Windows software?

K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux

[Bill]

I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under 
Linux works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy 
and straight forward as their Windows software?


K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.

Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Using Linux

[Mike Markowski]

Yes!

What exists works well.  The selection is less than Windows, however.  I 
use hamlib/xlog/xdx and am happy in my simple world.


73 and enjoy,

Mike ab3ap, ubuntu distro (ex PDP11/70, VAX11/780, HP-UX, SGI, UNICOS, 
Solaris, BSD, gentoo, ???)


On 07/30/2016 08:29 PM, Bill wrote:

I am switching from Windows to Linux (Mint) and am wondering if the K3
and other support software works as well on Linux as it does on Windows?
Advice/comments from Linux users will me most appreciated.

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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