Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)
Gene What I sometimes do is to take a piece of electrical wire and strip the insulation off. Then I split the insulation along the length and slip it over the sharp edge. You can glue it with some epoxy or the like. On 2013/04/11 12:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine: Gene, The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier and had a look at the MB to see how they do it. You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card or pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate. Which is what I did do at one point but with a 50 pin scsi cable from a triple 82C55 based card, and the edges of the hole in the backplane were too sharp for comfort IMO. To be comfy, it would have needed an edge breaker strip installed. And those aren't commodity items here in the middle of WV. :) On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine: The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and needs a ribbon cable extension. Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's? Sounds cool if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box. I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable. One is configured as out and the other as in. Rudy Cheers, Gene -- Regards / Groete Marius D. Liebenberg MasterCut cc Cel: +27 82 698 3251 Tel: +27 12 743 6064 Fax: +27 86 551 8029 Skype: marius_d.liebenberg Skype Me^(TM)! skype:marius_d.liebenberg?call Get Skype http://www.skype.com/go/download and call me for free. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 130410-2, 2013/04/10 Tested on: 2013/04/11 08:36:53 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2013 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)
On Thursday 11 April 2013 08:39:43 Marius Liebenberg did opine: Gene What I sometimes do is to take a piece of electrical wire and strip the insulation off. Then I split the insulation along the length and slip it over the sharp edge. You can glue it with some epoxy or the like. I've done that too, but getting it to stay in position long enough for superglue to set can be a problem. The ready made nylon stuff is better, but usually formed for 16 gauge metal, not this razor sharp 28 gauge they use for backplates these days. Even running it out through a card slot, I usually try to put an extra wrap of scotch 88 tape on the edges. Paranoia I guess. Thanks. On 2013/04/11 12:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine: Gene, The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier and had a look at the MB to see how they do it. You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card or pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate. Which is what I did do at one point but with a 50 pin scsi cable from a triple 82C55 based card, and the edges of the hole in the backplane were too sharp for comfort IMO. To be comfy, it would have needed an edge breaker strip installed. And those aren't commodity items here in the middle of WV. :) On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine: The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and needs a ribbon cable extension. Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's? Sounds cool if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box. I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable. One is configured as out and the other as in. Rudy Cheers, Gene Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml I'm reporting for duty as a modern person. I want to do the Latin Hustle now! A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)
Gentlemen, I just put together an e350n with 4GB ram and 120GB SSD. The only bios play I did was to try to boot with a USB HDD. No joy there so I used a sata dvd to install. The all day servo thread latency settles around 9600 (an overnight run was 12000 in the morning). The all day base thread settles around 8700. This is with glxgears running and surfing the internet. Just information for your use. thanks Stuart On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Thursday 11 April 2013 08:39:43 Marius Liebenberg did opine: Gene What I sometimes do is to take a piece of electrical wire and strip the insulation off. Then I split the insulation along the length and slip it over the sharp edge. You can glue it with some epoxy or the like. I've done that too, but getting it to stay in position long enough for superglue to set can be a problem. The ready made nylon stuff is better, but usually formed for 16 gauge metal, not this razor sharp 28 gauge they use for backplates these days. Even running it out through a card slot, I usually try to put an extra wrap of scotch 88 tape on the edges. Paranoia I guess. Thanks. On 2013/04/11 12:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine: Gene, The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier and had a look at the MB to see how they do it. You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card or pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate. Which is what I did do at one point but with a 50 pin scsi cable from a triple 82C55 based card, and the edges of the hole in the backplane were too sharp for comfort IMO. To be comfy, it would have needed an edge breaker strip installed. And those aren't commodity items here in the middle of WV. :) On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine: The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and needs a ribbon cable extension. Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's? Sounds cool if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box. I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable. One is configured as out and the other as in. Rudy Cheers, Gene Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml I'm reporting for duty as a modern person. I want to do the Latin Hustle now! A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- dos centavos -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
On 4/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jon Elson wrote: --- On Tue, 4/9/13, Viesturs Lācisviesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: clip It has been discussed many times on this list that there is only one or two pci-to-parport cards out there that do actually work in EPP mode. All the others do so only in theory and docs, not in reality. I think Viesturs is overstating the problems with these plug-in cards. Yes, there are several old ones that definitely don't work, and one where the manufacturer of the chip even admits that it doesn't work. Most on-motherboard ports work fine, as long as a little BIOS bug is worked around, and as far as I know all LinuxCNC 2.4 and later drivers know how to do this. So, that problem should no longer be any problem. (I sometimes run into this when running diagnostics on EPP-attached hardware. If the diags only work after running LinuxCNC, that makes it clear.) Hopefully we can assemble a list of boards and parport chips known to work and make that available on the wiki. Jon -- I haven't had a problem with the D525MW cards running the onboard LPT port in EPP mode.. at least not with the last three that I used. Dave -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)
The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and needs a ribbon cable extension. I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable. One is configured as out and the other as in. Rudy -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
Dear Peter, will a 5i20 work in the ga-e350n with pci slot? i have one 5i20 at hand and looking to buy some 350n. Regards rick 2013/4/9 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com On Tue, 9 Apr 2013, Eric Keller wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:28:11 -0400 From: Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose? On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: The 6i25 ought to work. That looks to be a 16x slot, running x4, that can negotiate down to x1 with a 6i25 in there. (But check with Mesa) that's weird, when I go to newegg they have a ga-e350N with a PCI slot that's in stock and one with a PCIe slot that isn't. There are 2 GA-E350Ns: the plain GA-350N that has a PCI slot, and the GA-E350N-USB3 that has a 4 lane PCIE slot (16 physical) Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
Also, the ga-e350n-usb3 (4x pci-e slot), is compatible with an 6i25?. I will test first the ga-e350n. regards rick 2013/4/10 Ricardo Moscoloni rmoscol...@gmail.com Dear Peter, will a 5i20 work in the ga-e350n with pci slot? i have one 5i20 at hand and looking to buy some 350n. Regards rick 2013/4/9 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com On Tue, 9 Apr 2013, Eric Keller wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:28:11 -0400 From: Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose? On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: The 6i25 ought to work. That looks to be a 16x slot, running x4, that can negotiate down to x1 with a 6i25 in there. (But check with Mesa) that's weird, when I go to newegg they have a ga-e350N with a PCI slot that's in stock and one with a PCIe slot that isn't. There are 2 GA-E350Ns: the plain GA-350N that has a PCI slot, and the GA-E350N-USB3 that has a 4 lane PCIE slot (16 physical) Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
There seem to be 4 models of E350N board. The GA-E350N (rev 1.0) the GA-350N (rev 3.0) and the GA-E350N Win8 (rev 1.0) all seem to have a parallel port, but the GA-E350N-USB3 (rev 1.0) does not. The -USB3 has a different chipset (AMD 50M as opposed to AMD A45 FCH) but I don't know enough about those to be able to comment on the effects they might have on latency. I assume the latency test was carried out on the plain E350N, and it looks like a good solution at a reasonable price. A review on hardware.info says: Gigabyte submitted two E-350 motherboards, the GA-E350N (£60) and the GA-E350N-USB3. The first one almost almost seems intended for industrial applications, due to the presence of CPI instead of PCI-Express x16 and the inclusion of old-fashioned parallel printer and serial ports. For consumers these are useless. The board use the cheap A45 chipset which gives it 4x SATA300 (and not SATA600). The Realtek ALC887 audio codec is also old. The power consumption is very high for this board. The reviewers liked the -USB3 a lot better, but then its newer, so I guess they would, wouldn't they? I think the issue here is that the parallel port will disappear quickly, so we need good solutions ready for that time. Trouble is, those solutions cost extra, and while they might add value (speed, consistency, or whatever), the effect of the cheaper motherboards boards is largely negated. Marcus On 10 Apr 2013, at 13:39, Ricardo Moscoloni wrote: Also, the ga-e350n-usb3 (4x pci-e slot), is compatible with an 6i25?. I will test first the ga-e350n. regards rick 2013/4/10 Ricardo Moscoloni rmoscol...@gmail.com Dear Peter, will a 5i20 work in the ga-e350n with pci slot? i have one 5i20 at hand and looking to buy some 350n. Regards rick 2013/4/9 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com On Tue, 9 Apr 2013, Eric Keller wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:28:11 -0400 From: Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose? On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: The 6i25 ought to work. That looks to be a 16x slot, running x4, that can negotiate down to x1 with a 6i25 in there. (But check with Mesa) that's weird, when I go to newegg they have a ga-e350N with a PCI slot that's in stock and one with a PCIe slot that isn't. There are 2 GA-E350Ns: the plain GA-350N that has a PCI slot, and the GA-E350N-USB3 that has a 4 lane PCIE slot (16 physical) Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Ricardo Moscoloni wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:20:41 -0300 From: Ricardo Moscoloni rmoscol...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose? Dear Peter, will a 5i20 work in the ga-e350n with pci slot? i have one 5i20 at hand and looking to buy some 350n. Regards rick It should. I dont have a GA-350N (but I have MBs with the same chipset) so I cannot say for sure but I would say its better than 99% likely to work. 2013/4/9 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com On Tue, 9 Apr 2013, Eric Keller wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:28:11 -0400 From: Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose? On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: The 6i25 ought to work. That looks to be a 16x slot, running x4, that can negotiate down to x1 with a 6i25 in there. (But check with Mesa) that's weird, when I go to newegg they have a ga-e350N with a PCI slot that's in stock and one with a PCIe slot that isn't. There are 2 GA-E350Ns: the plain GA-350N that has a PCI slot, and the GA-E350N-USB3 that has a 4 lane PCIE slot (16 physical) Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Ricardo Moscoloni wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:39:52 -0300 From: Ricardo Moscoloni rmoscol...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose? Also, the ga-e350n-usb3 (4x pci-e slot), is compatible with an 6i25?. I will test first the ga-e350n. regards rick _maybe_. Despite the PCIE specs saying that cards must be downward compatible (card lanes slot lanes should work), Many BIOSes flub this. Its likely that it works but I would only know if it was tested. 2013/4/10 Ricardo Moscoloni rmoscol...@gmail.com Dear Peter, will a 5i20 work in the ga-e350n with pci slot? i have one 5i20 at hand and looking to buy some 350n. Regards rick 2013/4/9 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com On Tue, 9 Apr 2013, Eric Keller wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:28:11 -0400 From: Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose? On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: The 6i25 ought to work. That looks to be a 16x slot, running x4, that can negotiate down to x1 with a 6i25 in there. (But check with Mesa) that's weird, when I go to newegg they have a ga-e350N with a PCI slot that's in stock and one with a PCIe slot that isn't. There are 2 GA-E350Ns: the plain GA-350N that has a PCI slot, and the GA-E350N-USB3 that has a 4 lane PCIE slot (16 physical) Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)
On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine: The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and needs a ribbon cable extension. Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's? Sounds cool if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box. I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable. One is configured as out and the other as in. Rudy -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml Many are called, few are chosen. Fewer still get to do the choosing. A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)
On 10 April 2013 16:43, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's? Yes. Even better, it can go direct to the identical header on a Mesa 7i43. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)
2013/4/10 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com On 10 April 2013 16:43, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's? Yes. Even better, it can go direct to the identical header on a Mesa 7i43. And keep all that cable inside the control box... That is why I prefer having such a header right on motherboard, just like D510MO board had. I have difficulties figuring out, how to get that cable back inside in a nice and good-looking way. -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)
Gene, The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier and had a look at the MB to see how they do it. You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card or pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate. On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine: The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and needs a ribbon cable extension. Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's? Sounds cool if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box. I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable. One is configured as out and the other as in. Rudy -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users Cheers, Gene -- Regards / Groete Marius D. Liebenberg MasterCut cc Cel: +27 82 698 3251 Tel: +27 12 743 6064 Fax: +27 86 551 8029 Skype: marius_d.liebenberg Skype Me^(TM)! skype:marius_d.liebenberg?call Get Skype http://www.skype.com/go/download and call me for free. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 130410-0, 2013/04/10 Tested on: 2013/04/10 08:32:19 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2013 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
On 4/10/2013 8:59 AM, Marcus Bowman wrote: There seem to be 4 models of E350N board. The GA-E350N (rev 1.0) the GA-350N (rev 3.0) and the GA-E350N Win8 (rev 1.0) all seem to have a parallel port, but the GA-E350N-USB3 (rev 1.0) does not. The -USB3 has a different chipset (AMD 50M as opposed to AMD A45 FCH) but I don't know enough about those to be able to comment on the effects they might have on latency. I assume the latency test was carried out on the plain E350N, and it looks like a good solution at a reasonable price. That's a good point about the latency test. Do not assume! The Biostar A68I-350 Deluxe I remarked on (note, I mistakenly wrote 1 instead of I before) is more like the GA-E350N-USB3 than the GA-350Ns in its design but it has yet again a different Northbridge Chipset (AMD A68). It has USB3 ports and 6GB SATA capability but it also has an internal printer port (!). Just as the Biostar board disappointed me with its 5ns jitter results, the GA-E3350N-USB3 could disappoint. I like Gigabyte boards, but this one needs to be tested! Regards, Kent -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)
On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:10:37 andy pugh did opine: On 10 April 2013 16:43, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's? Yes. Even better, it can go direct to the identical header on a Mesa 7i43. Kewl. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml Parkinson's Fifth Law: If there is a way to delay in important decision, the good bureaucracy, public or private, will find it. A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)
On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine: Gene, The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier and had a look at the MB to see how they do it. You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card or pop out one of the unused place holders on the back plate. Which is what I did do at one point but with a 50 pin scsi cable from a triple 82C55 based card, and the edges of the hole in the backplane were too sharp for comfort IMO. To be comfy, it would have needed an edge breaker strip installed. And those aren't commodity items here in the middle of WV. :) On 2013/04/10 05:43 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine: The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and needs a ribbon cable extension. Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's? Sounds cool if you can get the cable out of a box like the 350 mini itx box. I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable. One is configured as out and the other as in. Rudy Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene is up! My views http://www.armchairpatriot.com/What%20Has%20America%20Become.shtml Parkinson's Fifth Law: If there is a way to delay in important decision, the good bureaucracy, public or private, will find it. A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than a gun in the hands of 200 million law-abiding citizens. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
2013/4/9 propcoder marius.alks...@gmail.com Dave, thank you for Gigabyte mini-ITX GA-E350N. It is a good candidate. How about micro-ATX? It just takes up more space in control box and that is it. Now I am thinking of ability to put some MESA PCI card to MB. As I understand, this is not possible with GA-E350N? I am puzzled about these PCI and PCI-E ports. Maybe 6i25 card will work with this port? I have no idea. Is it possible to add second PCI-E parport and run it with MESA EPP card? First of all, please check in real life, if the onboard parport is really EPP capable. As it was pointed out earlier, D525MW boards had some issues, I myself tried with 3 different D525MW boards and did not get any of them to work with 7i43 card, although the onboard parport is supposed to work in EPP mode. Yes, You can add another parport in PCI-E slot and use another 7i43 card. Just take 2 things in mind: 1) You have to find such a card for PCI-E slot, I have no seen any; Ok, I found these: http://www.brainboxes.com/lpt-pci-express But their pricing does not seem enouraging... 2) and You have to check in real life that it really works in EPP mode. It has been discussed many times on this list that there is only one or two pci-to-parport cards out there that do actually work in EPP mode. All the others do so only in theory and docs, not in reality. -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
--- On Tue, 4/9/13, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: clip It has been discussed many times on this list that there is only one or two pci-to-parport cards out there that do actually work in EPP mode. All the others do so only in theory and docs, not in reality. It's almost enough to make me miss the days of ISA and VESA Local Bus multi-IO boards with 20+ jumpers to set all the ports' addresses, speeds and other functions. Set the jumpers, it's gonna frigging *work*. Well, unless the OS was Windows 95 or 95a. That one had a nasty habit of just applying whatever IRQ's and memory addresses it felt like then claiming it was the hardware's fault for not being able to work. Beating Win 95 into submission was a daily chore for me back then. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 4/9/2013 12:14 AM, propcoder wrote: Dave, thank you for Gigabyte mini-ITX GA-E350N. It is a good candidate. As an addendum to this discussion, I got a chance (doesn't everyone carry a LiveUSB stick in their pocket just in case?) to run latency-test on a substantially similar motherboard, the Biostar A681-E350 Deluxe, being built into a home entertainment center. The American Megatrends BIOS menus are foreign to me and I couldn't decide what if any settings I should change so I left the factory settings alone. I have the usual isolcpus=1 kernel boot parameter. I ran the stock latency-test with 1000us/25us thread periods (all number pairs below are servo/base). For about one minute, the max jitters were 5578ns/3005ns---great---then they popped to 5753ns/24744ns. Within another minute, they popped again to 47102ns/45892ns. At the moment, I don't have sufficient access to this motherboard to investigate so I have to give it a thumbs-down. Stick to the Gigabyte board. Regards, Kent -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 9 April 2013 05:14, propcoder marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote: Now I am thinking of ability to put some MESA PCI card to MB. As I understand, this is not possible with GA-E350N? The 6i25 ought to work. That looks to be a 16x slot, running x4, that can negotiate down to x1 with a 6i25 in there. (But check with Mesa) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: The 6i25 ought to work. That looks to be a 16x slot, running x4, that can negotiate down to x1 with a 6i25 in there. (But check with Mesa) that's weird, when I go to newegg they have a ga-e350N with a PCI slot that's in stock and one with a PCIe slot that isn't. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
--- On Tue, 4/9/13, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: clip It has been discussed many times on this list that there is only one or two pci-to-parport cards out there that do actually work in EPP mode. All the others do so only in theory and docs, not in reality. I think Viesturs is overstating the problems with these plug-in cards. Yes, there are several old ones that definitely don't work, and one where the manufacturer of the chip even admits that it doesn't work. Most on-motherboard ports work fine, as long as a little BIOS bug is worked around, and as far as I know all LinuxCNC 2.4 and later drivers know how to do this. So, that problem should no longer be any problem. (I sometimes run into this when running diagnostics on EPP-attached hardware. If the diags only work after running LinuxCNC, that makes it clear.) Hopefully we can assemble a list of boards and parport chips known to work and make that available on the wiki. Jon -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
Guys, I think you can pretty much get any Atom these days. I have done several installations on the Intel Atoms and never had any problems. I just did an Installation on a 2800MUD (the very latest) and it took about two hours to clock the first motor. It does not have a parport but only a PCI/E. Good enough for a plasma machine as the THC and extra IO is done via USB. What you have to make sure is that it has a parallel port and a PCI/E slot. That way you can get most of your stuff done. What I noticed on the Intel Atoms MB's is that it is just one board but with various configurations. I made the mistake to not specify that I need a parport and pci on the first order. Now we have a nice media player. They all have very good graphics. Other Marius On 2013/04/09 06:14 AM, propcoder wrote: Dave, thank you for Gigabyte mini-ITX GA-E350N. It is a good candidate. How about micro-ATX? Now I am thinking of ability to put some MESA PCI card to MB. As I understand, this is not possible with GA-E350N? Is it possible to add second PCI-E parport and run it with MESA EPP card? Marius On 2013.04.08 20:59, Dave wrote: From March 30th by Christopher Purcell posted this note below: I have been partial to the Intel D525MW and the D525MWE but the E350N board should be much faster than the D525 boards. The Intel board was discontinued last fall but they still keep making them regardless. the newer Intel MITX boards has a video chip (3650?) that is very unfriendly with Linux. Intel really screwed up on their latest set of MITX boards. I have abandoned conventional rotating drives for LinuxCNC apps since the required drive space is very small and SSDs in the 80 Gig range are under $100 now. Intel has one SSD that has a mean time between failure rating of over 100 years. So the CNC machines I do now might outlive me! ;-) I had been getting about 3 years of continuous use out of a rotating drive before it began to malfunction. I need to order some parts from Newegg this week and a E350N board will be part of the order. Dave -- Regards / Groete Marius D. Liebenberg MasterCut cc Cel: +27 82 698 3251 Tel: +27 12 743 6064 Fax: +27 86 551 8029 Skype: marius_d.liebenberg Skype Me^(TM)! skype:marius_d.liebenberg?call Get Skype http://www.skype.com/go/download and call me for free. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 130409-0, 2013/04/09 Tested on: 2013/04/09 05:57:49 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2013 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013, Eric Keller wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:28:11 -0400 From: Eric Keller eekel...@psu.edu Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose? On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: The 6i25 ought to work. That looks to be a 16x slot, running x4, that can negotiate down to x1 with a 6i25 in there. (But check with Mesa) that's weird, when I go to newegg they have a ga-e350N with a PCI slot that's in stock and one with a PCIe slot that isn't. There are 2 GA-E350Ns: the plain GA-350N that has a PCI slot, and the GA-E350N-USB3 that has a 4 lane PCIE slot (16 physical) Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics (\__/) (='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your ()_() signature to help him gain world domination. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
From March 30th by Christopher Purcell posted this note below: I have been partial to the Intel D525MW and the D525MWE but the E350N board should be much faster than the D525 boards. The Intel board was discontinued last fall but they still keep making them regardless. the newer Intel MITX boards has a video chip (3650?) that is very unfriendly with Linux. Intel really screwed up on their latest set of MITX boards. I have abandoned conventional rotating drives for LinuxCNC apps since the required drive space is very small and SSDs in the 80 Gig range are under $100 now. Intel has one SSD that has a mean time between failure rating of over 100 years. So the CNC machines I do now might outlive me! ;-) I had been getting about 3 years of continuous use out of a rotating drive before it began to malfunction. I need to order some parts from Newegg this week and a E350N board will be part of the order. Dave After a long day of trying different graphics drivers, I got the accelerated graphics to work on the Gigabyte GA-E350N mini-ITX board, with AMD E-350 D processor and integrated AMD HD 6310 graphics on Ubuntu 10.04. This board uses about 32 Watts as measured on a power meter when the latency test is running and glxgears is showing about 1000 frames/sec. Newegg sells this board for $80.00. I bought it because it has a parallel port, which seems to be getting rare. The advice that finally fixed the graphics was: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide#Ubuntu_X_Team.27s_PPA. The only issue with this board now is that it does not boot from a USB stick, and this is a known problem. The LinuxCNC latency is very good, and I posted the results to the Wiki. Next I will play with hooking up a Mesa 5i25 to it. christopherpurc...@mac.com 5 Mt Pleasant Ave Dartmouth, NS B3A 3T1 From: Przemek Klosowskiprzemek.klosowski@... Subject: Re: Gigabyte GA-E350N Latency numbers Newsgroups: gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user Date: 2013-03-28 13:53:50 GMT (1 day, 23 hours and 50 minutes ago) ... Nice, but the sad thing is that high-performance video drivers tend to hit latency (Nvidia is particularly infamous). If you succeed making Radeon drivers to run please re-run the latency tests and report the results. On 4/8/2013 1:27 PM, propcoder wrote: I am going to use MESA cards, but pulsegen might be used too. Which new ITX (or mATX, if such would be much better) board would you recommend? What about small disk on memory / SSD? -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
2013/4/8 propcoder marius.alks...@gmail.com I am going to use MESA cards, but pulsegen might be used too. Which new ITX (or mATX, if such would be much better) board would you recommend? What about small disk on memory / SSD? 30 GB Kingston SSD is one of the cheapest hard drives there is in my favorite store. Since Ubuntu + LinuxCNC do not need more than 5-6 GB of space, the size is not a problem, so I got all the SSD benefits for the same price. I have used these SSDs in 4 machines now, the oldest is almost 2 years old, they all work like a charm. The only thing I do is I configure Ubuntu to minimize the number of writes to the disk. All of those machines have D525MW boards, so I cannot share any useful advices on other choices. -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
Dave wrote: Intel has one SSD that has a mean time between failure rating of over 100 years. So the CNC machines I do now might outlive me! ;-) Do NOT trust these insane MTBFs, they are calculated numbers designed for bragging, and have NO basis in reality. They are derived from accelerated life tests done on discrete electronics by the US Air Force in the 1960's, and were of dubious veracity then. The methodology has not been updated in FIFTY years! Read some horror stories by mass users of these drivers, like Google and other server farm operators, you'll be shocked. Reliability specifically of SSDs is not real good. Jon -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?
Dave, thank you for Gigabyte mini-ITX GA-E350N. It is a good candidate. How about micro-ATX? Now I am thinking of ability to put some MESA PCI card to MB. As I understand, this is not possible with GA-E350N? Is it possible to add second PCI-E parport and run it with MESA EPP card? Marius On 2013.04.08 20:59, Dave wrote: From March 30th by Christopher Purcell posted this note below: I have been partial to the Intel D525MW and the D525MWE but the E350N board should be much faster than the D525 boards. The Intel board was discontinued last fall but they still keep making them regardless. the newer Intel MITX boards has a video chip (3650?) that is very unfriendly with Linux. Intel really screwed up on their latest set of MITX boards. I have abandoned conventional rotating drives for LinuxCNC apps since the required drive space is very small and SSDs in the 80 Gig range are under $100 now. Intel has one SSD that has a mean time between failure rating of over 100 years. So the CNC machines I do now might outlive me! ;-) I had been getting about 3 years of continuous use out of a rotating drive before it began to malfunction. I need to order some parts from Newegg this week and a E350N board will be part of the order. Dave -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
