Re: [Evolution] Release 1.0

[Dan Winship]

> I would also like to say that the pre-1.0 problem that I have
> experienced, and judging from this list, others have experienced, with
> the error "database configuration file not found" when trying to start
> Evolution still exists. I need to run "oaf-slay" before I can run
> Evolution. Do we have any idea of what the problem is, or an expected
> resolution?

What oaf package(s) do you have?

-- Dan

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RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector

[Dan Winship]

Hi. We have enough beta testers for now. I'm not sure what the schedule
of beta testing / early sales / whatever will be as we get closer to the
release date. If you're interested in betaing [if we do end up having
more betas later], or just want to talk about buying, send mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Evolution] Release 1.0

[Duane C. Mallory]

Dan,

This is the oaf package I am running:

oaf-0.6.7-ximian.2

Hope this helps,

DCM

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 09:13, Dan Winship wrote:
> > I would also like to say that the pre-1.0 problem that I have
> > experienced, and judging from this list, others have experienced, with
> > the error "database configuration file not found" when trying to start
> > Evolution still exists. I need to run "oaf-slay" before I can run
> > Evolution. Do we have any idea of what the problem is, or an expected
> > resolution?
> 
> What oaf package(s) do you have?
> 
> -- Dan
> 



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Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Dan Winship]

> example, our calendaring at the moment is p2p, right?  How will Evo(GPL)
> handle this when Evo(Proprietary) appears?

(As mentioned by Nat, Evo == GPL, the Connector is a plug-in.)

> Is it really planned to
> have a version of iCal that wanders around client->client as well as a
> version that talks to servers?

iCalendar is just a data format (for describing events, meetings, tasks,
etc.).  iMIP describes how to send iCalendar objects by mail (which
Evolution and Outlook both support). There is a protocol called CAP that
describes how to talk to calendar servers, but it isn't finished yet.

Anyway, as far as Evolution is concerned, the Exchange server is just
another backend that it can read and write iCalendar objects to/from.
The Connector deals with the details of talking to the server and doing
what translation is necessary. People using the Connector will still be
able to do p2p scheduling with people who aren't, etc. Does that answer
your question?

-- Dan

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Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Dan Winship]

On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 18:40, Ujwal S. Sathyam wrote:
> I just read about the Ximian Connector for interacting with MS Exchange.
> The announcement says the the release date is early next year? Can
> someone narrow that down to any calendar month/week?

Nope, but here's a screenshot:

http://primates.ximian.com/~danw/connector.png

-- Dan

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Re: [Evolution] Task pad display problem in Calendar view

[Dan Winship]

> However, looking at his calendar screen, I noticed that he had a small
> "navigation calendar" and his task list displayed to the right of the
> daily view, whereas I don't have them (and never have IIRC).  I've
> looked in the manual, in the "Calender and Tasks Options", and could not
> find anything that affected this. 

There's a vertical bar between the scrollbar and the right edge of the
window. Drag it left, and voila. (You can also keep dragging left to get
*two* months of calendar and a wider tasks view if you want to outdo
your friend :-)

-- Dan

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Re: [Evolution] Task pad display problem in Calendar view

[Larry Ewing]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 10:07, Dan Winship wrote:
> > However, looking at his calendar screen, I noticed that he had a small
> > "navigation calendar" and his task list displayed to the right of the
> > daily view, whereas I don't have them (and never have IIRC).  I've
> > looked in the manual, in the "Calender and Tasks Options", and could not
> > find anything that affected this. 
> 
> There's a vertical bar between the scrollbar and the right edge of the
> window. Drag it left, and voila. (You can also keep dragging left to get
> *two* months of calendar and a wider tasks view if you want to outdo
> your friend :-)
> 

You might also have to drag down from the top if all that shows up is
the task list.

--Larry

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Re: [Evolution] Request: check mbox folders before entering notafter exiting

[Randy Orrison]

On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 23:05, Not Zed wrote:
> Use maildir, and set 'check mail every n minutes' option.

Ok, I've set up a separate maildir folder (~/evolution/IncomingLists/ --
will that ever conflict with Evolution?) that exim moves mailing list
messages to (to get them out of my mail spool file, so that my mail
status in gnome-panel gives a reasonable count).  If mail arrives in
that folder while Evolution is open, the filters that I've set up file
it into the appropriate mbox folder in Local Folders.  This all works
fine, but...

When I open Evolution there's typically already a large pile of mail in
the IncomingLists folder, but the filter rules aren't automatically
applied to those messages.  I can select all the messages and do Apply
Filters manually, but I'd like it to happen automatically (preferably in
the background somehow).  Is this possible, or just something to hope
for in some future release?  (I'm still using 0.99.2 from Debian
unstable.)

(I'd still prefer to just have exim drop the messages directly into the
appropriate mbox folder under Local Folders, and save Evolution from
doing the move.)

Thanks!



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Re: [Evolution] Task pad display problem in Calendar view

[Richard Bellavance]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 10:16, Larry Ewing wrote:
> On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 10:07, Dan Winship wrote:
> > 
> > There's a vertical bar between the scrollbar and the right edge of the
> > window. Drag it left, and voila. (You can also keep dragging left to get
> > *two* months of calendar and a wider tasks view if you want to outdo
> > your friend :-)
> > 
> 
> You might also have to drag down from the top if all that shows up is
> the task list.

Thanks !  That drag-bar was really not obvious, I thought it was the
window's edge...

Richard.
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Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Chris Ball]

On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 10:00:45AM -0500, Dan Winship wrote:
> Anyway, as far as Evolution is concerned, the Exchange server is just
> another backend that it can read and write iCalendar objects to/from.
> The Connector deals with the details of talking to the server and doing
> what translation is necessary. People using the Connector will still be
> able to do p2p scheduling with people who aren't, etc. Does that answer
> your question?

It does.  And I'd like to add my agreement with just about everyone else
who's posted in reply to my original mail.  With you all the way. 

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Re: [Evolution] Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync

[Not Zed]

1. Use imap.
2. Use maildir.
3. You can use an mbox tree, but you just may occasionally encounter
some weird problems.  Evolution does about as much as it can to ensure
those problems are not fatal though (or it is intended that it does).  

The only reason i say its not supported, is that I dont want to have to
ensure it works.  If things fail (but they shouldn't), and you lose
mail, its 'well i told you it was a risk', but if its a risk you're
prepared to take ...

For example I know if you use 'elm -f folder' it does NO locking on the
folder.  So it is possible to lose mail if both evolution or procmail
and elm are accessing the same folder at the same time.  I dont know if
pine locks its local folders, or only locks teh spool folder.  If it
doesn't it too could lose mail.  etc.  In cases where the other
application uses no locking, or a different locking mechanism, then
there is always the potential for serious mailbox corruption, even if it
isn't great.

I remember having many corrupted mailbox spools on a system where the
pop server used a differnet locking mechanism to sendmail.  So the
problem isn't only limited to evolution.

maildir gets around this as it uses and requires no locking.
imap gets around this problem by having multiple access arbitrated
through a single server.

So.  Using mbox files is 'probably safe', but it might not be, depending
on the system setup and software you're using!

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 15:54, Juan Martinez wrote:
> Is there a way to share folders between pine and evolution while
> filtering with procmail?
> 
> 
> On 4 Dec 2001, Not Zed wrote:
> 
> > Date: 04 Dec 2001 08:42:18 +1030
> > From: Not Zed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Fred Chagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync
> >
> > On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 06:24, Fred Chagnon wrote:
> > > > An eaiser fix is to just remove the .ev-summary file in the folder, that
> > > > way you dont lose your messages at least.
> > > >
> > > > It happens because it tried to re-fresh the summary to match the folder,
> > > > but after doing that, it still didn't make sense.  i.e. it tried to load
> > > > a message from a specific spot in the file, but the message wasn't
> > > > there.  The summary is like an index of the mailbox contents, which
> > > > includes a 'summary' of each message (like subject, etc), as well as
> > > > (for mbox files) a pointer to the start of the message inside the mbox.
> > > > The error is basically when that pointer doesn't match the file.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything that happens to start it happening?  Like running out
> > > > of disk or something like that?  There's a long-outstanding bug for this
> > > > one, but i haven't a clue how to fix it.
> > > >
> > > > Theoretically it should only happen if the mailbox is modified by
> > > > another client *while* evolution has the mailbox locked and does
> > > > processing on it.  Or perhaps if you run out of disk space.  It should
> > > > alos automatically repair itself when it can, but obviuosly this isn't
> > > > happening either.
> > >
> > > Thanks. This is very helpful. The problem actually hasn't happened in
> > > awhile. I've got 1.0 running now as well, so I'll hope that it's somehow
> > > disppeared for good.
> >
> > Ahh good, hopefully yes.
> >
> > > The folders shouldn't be open by any other applications. I use procmail
> > > to filter my mail into stand ~/mail/ folders which are all symlinked to
> > > ~/evolution/local/Inbox/subfolders/..
> >
> > Uh, this actually IS the sort of problem I was talking about.  If you do
> > this, you will definetly be accessing the folders with another
> > application while evolution is. But so long as procmail actually locks
> > the folders, it should be safe (if it doesn't, well you could lose
> > mail).
> >
> > You may want to investigate using 'maildir' as your mailbox format, with
> > that you can have pine and evolution point directly to the same tree
> > with no problems.
> >
> > Hopefully at some point we'll support having multiple subdirs with our
> > 'spool' type (its listed as 'mbox spool files' in the account creation
> > wizard), and then you should just be able to point evolution at your
> > pine files directly.  Still, locking needs to be performed the same way
> > by procmail and evolution for this to work.
> >
> > > I need to do it this way so I have pine read out of ~/mail/ and access
> > > my mail remotely from a terminal.
> > >
> > > But the two mail clients are never running simultaneously.
> >
> > Yeah but procmail will write to the folders as mail arrives.
> >
> > > Anyway, I'll pay more attention to how it happens should it happen again
> > > and keep you posted.
> >
> > Cool.
> >
> >
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Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Andre Truter]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 17:07, Dan Winship wrote:
> On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 18:40, Ujwal S. Sathyam wrote:
> > I just read about the Ximian Connector for interacting with MS Exchange.
> > The announcement says the the release date is early next year? Can
> > someone narrow that down to any calendar month/week?
> 
> Nope, but here's a screenshot:
> 
>   http://primates.ximian.com/~danw/connector.png
> 
> -- Dan
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This looks really great!

I have not seen the announcement yet, but I will be interested in this
if it is affordable for me.

Will there be a single-user license for individual use?

I use Evolution at work to read my exchange mail, but the calendar and
address list is a problem for me.  Every time I am invited to a meeting,
I have to log into the exchange server via the web interface to
acknowledge a meeting, then I have to add the meeting manually to my
Evolution calendar.  My company is not going to change their exchange
server settings just to suit me.  They don't even support the IMAP I am
using.

But this way still beats running Windoze just to read mail.

The Evolution plugin will make my life easier and maybe I can convince a
few other people to also use Evolution.  There are more and more people
running a Linux desktop and a Windoze desktop.
I am running two Linux desktops ... :-)

So, keep up the good work!
-- 

Andre Truter
Software Engineer

<->
< The box said: Requires Windows 95 or better...  >
< So I installed Linux>
<->



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Re: [Evolution] Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync

[Fred Chagnon]

> An eaiser fix is to just remove the .ev-summary file in the folder, that
> way you dont lose your messages at least.

Curses. It's still happening. 

I suspect you're right though. There's probably a race condition going
on between procmail and evolution. I'll double check and make sure that
procmail is locking files before writing to them. 

For now my solution to this problem is to move the mbox file
somewhere...nuke all the files in the afflicted directory, then move the
mbox file back and let Evolution rebuild the .ev-summuary and .ibex
files again. 


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Re: [Evolution] Could not create composer window

[Dan Winship]

> Could not create composer window:
> Unable to activate HTML editor component.
> 
> The error from the activation system is:
> Nothing matching the requirements.

Do you have a file /usr/share/oaf/GNOME_GtkHTML_Editor.oaf ?

What does the command: oaf-run-query "iid == 'OAFIID:GNOME_GtkHTML_Editor'" 
return?

-- Dan

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Re: [Evolution] Could not create composer window

[Evil Hanson (Will)]

>> Could not create composer window:
>> Unable to activate HTML editor component.
> >
> The error from the activation system is:
>> Nothing matching the requirements.

>Do you have a file /usr/share/oaf/GNOME_GtkHTML_Editor.oaf ?
Yes!

>What does the command: oaf-run-query "iid ==
>'OAFIID:GNOME_GtkHTML_Editor'" 
>return?
number of results: 1
OAFIID:GNOME_GtkHTML_Editor




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RE: [Evolution] Can't Initialize Evolution

[Chris Montgomery]

Benjamin,

Yep, libnspr4 was what I needed. Downloaded/installed it with Red Carpet and
Evo came right up. Huzzah! (although it did crash on one particular page of
the documentation, but that's not an obstacle)

Anyway, thanks for helping this Linux newbie out. I'll be switching over to
Evo from M$ Outlook asap.

Chris

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Benjamin Kahn
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:16 PM
> To: Chris Montgomery
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Can't Initialize Evolution
>
>
> ldd `which wombat` | grep libplc
>   libplc4.so => /usr/lib/libplc4.so (0x4023d000)
> rpm -qf /usr/lib/libplc4.so
>   libnspr4-0.9.6-ximian.1
>
>   So you'll need libnspr4.
>


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RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Jeppe, Nils]

Hello Chris,

What's the problem here? It isn't like this is the first bit of commercial
software for Linux or UNIX. -gasp- what a revelation: A company that is in
it for the money! For me, the Connector is a lifesaver and I only wish
they'd announced a little earlier while I was still on a wild goose chase
for a Linux <-> Outlook/Exchange Calendaring interoperatibility (sp)
solution. $69 to hook up a Linux machine to an existing network is still a
big money saver for corporations, heck, a license of Windows 9x costs more
than that. You'd save boatloads on security alone. I can easily imagine this
to be a big market. I know that *I* will bug my boss to get me a license so
I can get rid of my Win2k Workstation.

As for the GPL vs. Proprietary issue, what's the big deal? How about a
forked version, or a plugin or something like that. It's all been done
before and we still have a free OS, don't we? Just because the EvoEx
Connector is proprietary doesn't mean the OS - or even Evo for that matter -
isn't.

What good is Linux on the Workstation if it cannot talk to the rest of the
world?

Now if Ximian dumps support/development of Free Evo in favor of Proprietary
Evo, that's when you can start to get all bitchy. ;-)


No offense meant by any of what I say.


Best wishes,
- Nils



-Original Message-
From: Chris Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2001 01:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?


On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:40:48PM -0800, Ujwal S. Sathyam wrote:
> This sounds really interesting.

.. furthermore, it sounds like a wonderful business model, given
that nothing else really does this yet.  It seems that even Evolution
doesn't, from the examples of discussion on here that I've seen - for
example, our calendaring at the moment is p2p, right?  How will Evo(GPL)
handle this when Evo(Proprietary) appears?  Is it really planned to
have a version of iCal that wanders around client->client as well as a
version that talks to servers?

It all sounds a bit, um, icky.  And I'm guessing that the development of
the connector isn't going to be at all publically discussed.  And I'm a
little frustrated that the mail client that I thought was this huge
effort on the part of the community to write the app that's going to 
be a /huge/ part in bringing Linux to the desktop is only going to be
the answer to Outlook in a "Yeah, use Evolution.  It's cool.  Oh, but
you have to pay for Exchange interoperability." way, and that no-one
mentioned this before.  Feels almost like we have to start again, to
find another way of arguing "Linux is free.  You can do _this_ with it."
to our bosses.  

Anyway.  Someone had to rant.  I think the more fair argument is that,
well, /I/ haven't put any code into Evo.  And most of us haven't.  And
there's no way in hell it'd be here if Ximian hadn't hired people and
all of this, so it's at least justified.  

But enough.  I'm off to try and get my 1.0 install alive again.

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RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector

[Jeppe, Nils]

Hello Ximian,

I'll second that, if this is a possibility please get in touch with me and
I'll bug my superiours until they cave.


Best wishes,
Nils


-Original Message-
From: David Hoover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Montag, 3. Dezember 2001 22:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Evolution] Ximian Connector


Are you guys looking for testers for Ximian Connector while it's in
development? In another week or so, we'll be forced onto Exchange 2000
here where I work. I'd personally be more than willing to pay the $70
up-front if possible to get development copies & file bugs against it.

Just thought I'd offer, since more testers could be useful. (Plus, I
sure as hell don't want to have to do my meeting scheduling through OWA
:P)

--
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[Evolution] Release 1.0

[Duane C. Mallory]

I have successfully updated release 1.0 of Evolution through Red Carpet
this morning. I must congratulate the whole Ximian crew on this mile
stone event.

I would also like to say that the pre-1.0 problem that I have
experienced, and judging from this list, others have experienced, with
the error "database configuration file not found" when trying to start
Evolution still exists. I need to run "oaf-slay" before I can run
Evolution. Do we have any idea of what the problem is, or an expected
resolution?

Best Regards,

DCM





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[Evolution] some general questions

[Manuel Streuhofer]

hi list!

has anybody an idea why the "Empty Trash" Action doesn't work
at a mbox-Account? the "Expunge" Action works, but i think
expunging is an action related to imap, not to mbox...
so what have i misunderstood? ;)

and then theres another question... is it possible to save
all mails of a imap folder local so that it is possible to
work offline? at this time only some mails are reachable
when in offline-mode. but i don't understand which mail
and why...

thanks!
Manuel

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[Evolution] Thank you, Ximian & community!

[Neologism]

Evolution is simply awe-inspiring.  Thank you for this fantastic
contribution to the world.

I agree with Ximian's decision to sell Connector.  I think you're doing the
right job of balancing open source with the need for profit.  Keep
going!

I'm a big fan!

Neologism



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Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Erik Bågfors]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 01:19, Chris Ball wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:40:48PM -0800, Ujwal S. Sathyam wrote:
> > This sounds really interesting.
> 
> .. furthermore, it sounds like a wonderful business model, given
> that nothing else really does this yet.  It seems that even Evolution
> doesn't, from the examples of discussion on here that I've seen - for
> example, our calendaring at the moment is p2p, right?  How will Evo(GPL)
> handle this when Evo(Proprietary) appears?  Is it really planned to
> have a version of iCal that wanders around client->client as well as a
> version that talks to servers?
> 

I assume that the connector will be a plugin that uses bonobo to do it's
stuff.  Therefore everything in evo will still be the same.

What I would like to see is a evolution server that's GPL'ed and then a
plugin to it for outlook-capability.  That plugin can be proprietary for
all I care.

In my company most people are running either outlook or evolution but
there is no way we will install a windows-server just for serving
calendars and the like.

/Erik

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[Evolution] Upgrading to v1.0

[Andrew Dance]

I've just upgraded Evolution to v1.0 (RH7.1,Ximian Gnome 1.4), existing
folders have been found and listed, however I'm unable to view the contents
of these folders. Since I can't view any of the mail folders I don't have
access the appropriate menus to reconfigure mail accounts and filters! Does
anyone know a way out of this?

Also, all the help files are corrupt (misplaced CR's). I remember mention a
while back that these help files are available on-line somewhere?

Many thanks

Andi


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RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Nat Friedman]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 03:04, Jeppe, Nils wrote:
> Now if Ximian dumps support/development of Free Evo in favor of Proprietary
> Evo, that's when you can start to get all bitchy. ;-)

Just to clarify:  We're not making a proprietary Evolution.  We're
making a proprietary connector which is separate from Evolution and
which uses CORBA to talk to Evolution.  Evolution itself is free.

Nat


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RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Jeppe, Nils]

I did not assume otherwise.

- Nils

-Original Message-
From: Nat Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2001 15:00
To: Jeppe, Nils
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?



On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 03:04, Jeppe, Nils wrote:
> Now if Ximian dumps support/development of Free Evo in favor of
Proprietary
> Evo, that's when you can start to get all bitchy. ;-)

Just to clarify:  We're not making a proprietary Evolution.  We're
making a proprietary connector which is separate from Evolution and
which uses CORBA to talk to Evolution.  Evolution itself is free.

Nat


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RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector

[Aaron Kemp]

"Me too"

I would glady fork over the dough to be a beta tester too, if the option
exists.

Thanks,
Aaron

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 03:06, Jeppe, Nils wrote:
> 
> Hello Ximian,
> 
> I'll second that, if this is a possibility please get in touch with me and
> I'll bug my superiours until they cave.
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> Nils



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RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Nat Friedman]

Yep, I just wanted to make sure everyone (i.e. not necessarily you)
understood :-).

Best,
Nat

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 09:20, Jeppe, Nils wrote:
> 
> I did not assume otherwise.
> 
> - Nils
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Nat Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2001 15:00
> To: Jeppe, Nils
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 03:04, Jeppe, Nils wrote:
> > Now if Ximian dumps support/development of Free Evo in favor of
> Proprietary
> > Evo, that's when you can start to get all bitchy. ;-)
> 
> Just to clarify:  We're not making a proprietary Evolution.  We're
> making a proprietary connector which is separate from Evolution and
> which uses CORBA to talk to Evolution.  Evolution itself is free.
> 
> Nat
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Mike Sangrey]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 01:02, Ibukun Okitika wrote:
>  
> The thing is, in a perfect world, Richard Stallman would be in good
> terms with every Tom, Dick and Harry in the corporate world. Of course
> that's a ridiculous thought. I was reading the article on The Register
> about this, and I thought it was generally an excellent business
> decision by Ximian. I've seen enough bankruptcies and depressing
> economic news (add to that the general mass failures of open source
> companies like VA) to know that a GPL'ed company cannot survive in
> today's economy. Ximian must make money, and they've decided to go about
> it in the best way possible. I think any reasonable person should be
> supportive of them in this decision.
> 

Well said.

To my mind, the central hub which makes or breaks an open source company
is its focus on the very nature of service.  If a business seeks to
redefine service in terms of control, then that business practice is
unethical.  However, if the business takes a posture of serving, of
enabling, of fostering the success of individuals and other
organizations, then that company is doing the right thing.  It's a
tenuous balance between the right to get paid for the work performed and
the focus on serving others.  But, properly handling that tension will
make an open source company succeed.  A smart company will be very
sensitive to how its customers (and its competitor's customers) perceive
whether it is serving or controlling. 

IMO, the Ximian connector is a step in the right direction.  The problem
is that Microsoft positioned Exchange as a means of control.  The trick
for any company that fights in that space is going to be to break the
control without itself projecting a desire to control nor simply
feigning a service attitude.  It will be very interesting to see (and
watch) how Ximian maintains its integrity while performing this
extremely difficult task.

Well, that's my opinion.

Ximian, I'm cheer'n for ya.

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[Evolution] command line?

[Marc Williams]

Is there a way to start Evolution with To: and Subject: via the command
line?  The --usage screen didn't indicate there was so I thought I'd ask
here.

I'd like to be able to plug Evolution as my mailer into my new browser
(Galeon) but haven't seen the appropriate command line switches to do
this.  To: and Subject: are almost required.  Others would be nice. 
Thanks!





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[Evolution] Integrating Gaim in Evolution

[Sinzui Kobalt]

I've put together a small package that will display Gaim's online
buddies in the Summary section on Evolution.  It's just a quick hack to
start; there's still a good number of features that can be done better. 
Gaim's creation of an RSS file is trivial.  Much more work needs to be
done for Gaim to handle URL well.

When I began coding this, I discovered that Gaim's API had rapidly
progressed since the package released by Ximian earlier this year.  The
package works with the modern API, and the one supported in the Ximian
package.

http://home.cox.rr.com/annrky/chovey/evo-gaim.tar.gz

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Re: [Evolution] command line?

[James Ogley]

In the Gnome Control Centre, set the mailto URL handler to be

evolution "%s"

And make sure Galeon is set to use the Gnome mail handler

Now, as regards the Subject parsing, from what I can make out from Bug
#10379 and #14282 it should work, provided it's the correct usage of
mailto: that's used

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 14:59, Marc Williams wrote:
> Is there a way to start Evolution with To: and Subject: via the command
> line?  The --usage screen didn't indicate there was so I thought I'd ask
> here.
> I'd like to be able to plug Evolution as my mailer into my new browser
> (Galeon) but haven't seen the appropriate command line switches to do
> this.  To: and Subject: are almost required.  Others would be nice. 
> Thanks!
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[Evolution] A few bugs and grumbles.

[Rocky Hetherington]

Hello,

Just updated to Evolution 1.0 from Mandrake's Cooker.  It really is an
excellent piece of software, and i want to congratulate and thank all
the developers for all their hard work in bringing such a wonderful
piece of software to life.

Saying all that i've spotted a number of bugs and minor irratations. 
There's not too many, which i personally think is a great achievement
(i'm very good at complaining, so the fact that i have so few complaints
goes to show how good Evolution is ^_^).

Here's the list.

EMAIL

Evolution doesn't seem to be able to gracefully recover an IMAP
connection after a disconnection.  I have to close Evolution (which then
brings up and hangs the "closing" dialogue) and run killev before
restarting Evo to gain access to my email.

The server is running UW IMAP over SSL, although the problems exist on
the non-SSL connection too.

SPELL CHECKER

I've installed Gnome-spell and the option appears in the edit menu of
the new mail window, but it doesn't actually detect mis-spelled words. 
It appears to run, but claims that there are no mis-spelled words even
if i deliberately mis-spell them.

There's probably quite a few in this email, since i'm a terrible
speller. ^_^

UI

Not really a bug, but it is annoying.  In the Actions menu why are the
Expunge and Forget passwords options next to each other?

I can't tell you the number of times i've slipped slightly and Evo has
forgotten my passwords instead of expunging mail. ^_^

The forget passwords option is a dangerous one and should really be
seperated from all others by at least one blank line either side of it.

Mail Headers

The X-Mailer header states that Evo 1.0 is still a preview release.

That's it.  See i told you there weren't many. ^_^

Again congrats on a fine product.  I hope to be using Evolution for a
long time to come.


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Re: [Evolution] command line?

[Benjamin Kahn]

This is a FAQ:

How do I make Evolution handle mailto: links in Galeon? (or other GNOME
apps)
http://support.ximian.com/cgi-bin/ximian.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_refno=011126-01

 When you click on a mailto: link in Galeon, Galeon calls the GNOME URL
handler to decide what to do with the link. You can set what mailto:
does in the control center.

To get to the Control Center, you can click on the panel menus:

System -> Settings

Or, you can run from the command line:

$ gnomecc

There are two versions of the Control Center being used by Ximian
Desktop users at the moment. If you are using the old style Control
Center, find URL Handlers in the tree on the left, and select it with
the left mouse button. The capplet will open in the right hand frame.

If you see a "mailto" handler already defined select it from the list.
If not, type "mailto" (without quotes) in the upper left text box. In
either case, type:

evolution "%s"

...into the "handler:" text box. Click the [Set] button, and click [OK].

If you are using the new style Control Center, click on:

Advanced -> URL Handlers

NOTE: If you do not have Advanced on the left hand side you need to
install control-center-plus from Red Carpet. Run Red Carpet, get to the
Ximian Preview Channel, click "Install" in the upper right hand corner,
find control-center-plus, and install it.

Once you are in URL Handlers you can configure it as described above.


On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 09:59, Marc Williams wrote:
> Is there a way to start Evolution with To: and Subject: via the command
> line?  The --usage screen didn't indicate there was so I thought I'd ask
> here.
> 
> I'd like to be able to plug Evolution as my mailer into my new browser
> (Galeon) but haven't seen the appropriate command line switches to do
> this.  To: and Subject: are almost required.  Others would be nice. 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Upgrading to v1.0

[Andrew Dance]

Running evolution-mail & evolution from the command line gives the following
errors:

evolution-mail

e-utils-ERROR **: Very serious error, cannot activate private config
database 'Unknown CORBRA exception id: 'IDL:0AF/GeneralError:1.0''
aborting...
Aborted (core dumped)

evolution

evoltution-shell-WARNING **:
Could not start up component for OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent
Cannot activate Evolution component --
OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent
Cannot activate Evolution component --
OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Addressbook_ShellComponent

followed by:

e_folder_type_registry_get_icon_for_type() -- Unknown type 'mail'

repeated many, many times.

Andi


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Re: [Evolution] command line?

[Håvard Wigtil]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 15:59, Marc Williams wrote:
> Is there a way to start Evolution with To: and Subject: via the command
> line?  The --usage screen didn't indicate there was so I thought I'd ask
> here.
> 
> I'd like to be able to plug Evolution as my mailer into my new browser
> (Galeon) but haven't seen the appropriate command line switches to do
> this.  To: and Subject: are almost required.  Others would be nice. 
> Thanks!

Evolution supports "mailto" URLS, so something like this should work:
"evolution mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Test";

To set Evo as the default handler for mailto in Gnome, go to "Document
Handlers->URL handlers" under Settings and add the mailto type with
"evolution %s" as a handler.

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Re: [Evolution] command line?

[Marc Williams]

It works exactly as you described.  Thanks!  And now I feel quite stupid
since there is a FAQ that I hadn't even looked at before posting.  My
apologies.  Now I will go look for the new Control panel.


On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 09:36, Benjamin Kahn wrote:
> This is a FAQ:
> 
> How do I make Evolution handle mailto: links in Galeon? (or other GNOME
> apps)
> 
>http://support.ximian.com/cgi-bin/ximian.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_refno=011126-01
> 
>  When you click on a mailto: link in Galeon, Galeon calls the GNOME URL
> handler to decide what to do with the link. You can set what mailto:
> does in the control center.
> 
> To get to the Control Center, you can click on the panel menus:
> 
> System -> Settings
> 
> Or, you can run from the command line:
> 
> $ gnomecc
> 
> There are two versions of the Control Center being used by Ximian
> Desktop users at the moment. If you are using the old style Control
> Center, find URL Handlers in the tree on the left, and select it with
> the left mouse button. The capplet will open in the right hand frame.
> 
> If you see a "mailto" handler already defined select it from the list.
> If not, type "mailto" (without quotes) in the upper left text box. In
> either case, type:
> 
> evolution "%s"
> 
> ...into the "handler:" text box. Click the [Set] button, and click [OK].
> 
> If you are using the new style Control Center, click on:
> 
> Advanced -> URL Handlers
> 
> NOTE: If you do not have Advanced on the left hand side you need to
> install control-center-plus from Red Carpet. Run Red Carpet, get to the
> Ximian Preview Channel, click "Install" in the upper right hand corner,
> find control-center-plus, and install it.
> 
> Once you are in URL Handlers you can configure it as described above.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 09:59, Marc Williams wrote:
> > Is there a way to start Evolution with To: and Subject: via the command
> > line?  The --usage screen didn't indicate there was so I thought I'd ask
> > here.
> > 
> > I'd like to be able to plug Evolution as my mailer into my new browser
> > (Galeon) but haven't seen the appropriate command line switches to do
> > this.  To: and Subject: are almost required.  Others would be nice. 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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[Evolution] Task pad display problem in Calendar view

[Richard Bellavance]

Hi, 

I've been using Evolution for a few months now, and I've been signing
it's praises to my colleagues.  One of them installed 1.0 yesterday, and
is very pleased with it. 

However, looking at his calendar screen, I noticed that he had a small
"navigation calendar" and his task list displayed to the right of the
daily view, whereas I don't have them (and never have IIRC).  I've
looked in the manual, in the "Calender and Tasks Options", and could not
find anything that affected this. 

I even "rm -rf"'d my ~/evolution/local/Calendar and Tasks directories,
as well as ~/evolution/config/Calendar and TaskPad but nothing brings
those nifty things to display. 

What am I missing here ?  We're both running Evo 1.0... 

Thanks, 
Richard. 
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RE: [Evolution] Release 1.0

[Chris Montgomery]

Duane,

I don't know if this will help you or not, but I had the same problem. In my
case, I was missing the libplc4.so file, contained in the libnspr4 library
package. If you type "wombat" at the terminal and then get this error:

"wombat: error while loading shared libraries: libplc4.so: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory"

Then you probably need the package. Type "ldd `which wombat` | grep libplc"
to see if libplc4.so is on your system. If not, you need the package. Once I
installed it, Evolution came right up.

Thanks go to Benjamin Kahn for helping me figure this out.

Cheers,

Chris

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Duane C. Mallory
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 4:31 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Evolution] Release 1.0
>
>
> I have successfully updated release 1.0 of Evolution through Red Carpet
> this morning. I must congratulate the whole Ximian crew on this mile
> stone event.
>
> I would also like to say that the pre-1.0 problem that I have
> experienced, and judging from this list, others have experienced, with
> the error "database configuration file not found" when trying to start
> Evolution still exists. I need to run "oaf-slay" before I can run
> Evolution. Do we have any idea of what the problem is, or an expected
> resolution?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> DCM


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Re: [Evolution] Can't Initialize Evolution

[Gil Hauer]

Hi,

I had the same problem (in fact, I've been having it for a while!) and
noticed the same symptoms as Chris did. I forced a new install of
libnspr4 and wombat sees all of it's shared libraries.

However, when I start evolution I still get this application message in
my shell:

  evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase \
on wombat: (IDL: bonobo/Moniker/InterfaceNotFound:1.0)

... and a dialog window that says:

  Cannot Initialize the Ximian Evolution shell: Configuration \
Database not found

This is using RedHat 7.2 with all the latest Ximian updates.

killev; oaf-slay does not help the situation. Fresh reboot as well.

Any ideas? Please?

Thanks, Gil



On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 00:15, Benjamin Kahn wrote:
> ldd `which wombat` | grep libplc
>   libplc4.so => /usr/lib/libplc4.so (0x4023d000)
> rpm -qf /usr/lib/libplc4.so
>   libnspr4-0.9.6-ximian.1
> 
>   So you'll need libnspr4.
> 
> On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 23:16, Chris Montgomery wrote:
> > Howdy,
> > 
> > New to Linux/Ximian Evolution. Have installed Evolution 1.0 using the Red Carpet 
>app and am trying to get Evo running. I keep getting this error:
> > 
> > "evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on wombat: (IDL: 
>OAF/GeneralError:1.0)"
> > 
> > The error occurs whether I start in terminal or via the Gnome menus.
> > 
> > If I type "wombat" in the terminal, I then get this error:
> > 
> > "wombat: error while loading shared libraries: libplc4.so: cannot open shared 
>object file: No such file or directory"
> > 
> > Am I missing the libplc4.so file? Where should I look for it? I looked for this 
>using the Red Carpet app but couldn't find it as being available for download. Is it 
>bundled with something else?
> > 
> > All help appreciated.
> > 
> > System: Red Hat 7.1 on Pent II 450 Mhz, 256mb ram
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Chris Montgomery
> > 
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[Evolution] evolution 1.0 not working

[Vishwanath T. K.]

Hi all,

I have some problem with evolution-1.0. Any help would be great.

compiled evolution with gtkhtml-1.0.0. When i run evolution i get the main 
window set as Inbox and this works fine. but the other components of 
evolution makes evolution to hang. For eg. when i select summary, addressbook 
etc evolution hangs. I rember the same thing happened to me earlier and that 
was due to pilot-link package as these components do use pilot-link libraries.

I am using pilot-link-0.9.5-2 and gnome-pilot-0.1.62-3
I also tried gnome-pilot version-0.1.63 and 0.1.64 but still evolution hangs.

Thanks for any advice or help in advance

-vishy

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[Evolution] A newbie question...

[James Harrison]

Hey all,

Is their a way to have each message I compose to be automatically bcc'ed
to myself, and turn off storing sent messages in the sent items.  I
would like to do this because I use mutliple email clients and would
like to keep them all synchronized.

Thanks,
James





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Re: [Evolution] A newbie question...

[Manuel Streuhofer]

imap is what you are looking for. :)
but the bbc can be done with a template...

Manuel

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 17:41, James Harrison wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> Is their a way to have each message I compose to be automatically bcc'ed
> to myself, and turn off storing sent messages in the sent items.  I
> would like to do this because I use mutliple email clients and would
> like to keep them all synchronized.
> 
> Thanks,
> James
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Evolution] Re: Integrating Gaim in Evolution [adding jabber]

[Sinzui Kobalt]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 11:18, Ross Burton wrote:
> On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 15:15, Sinzui Kobalt wrote:
> > I've put together a small package that will display Gaim's online
> > buddies in the Summary section on Evolution.  It's just a quick hack to
> > start; there's still a good number of features that can be done better. 
> > Gaim's creation of an RSS file is trivial.  Much more work needs to be
> > done for Gaim to handle URL well.
> 
> Congratulations on such a brilliantly ingenious hack.  I was wondering
> how you did it and will probably do exactly the same thing for Jabber!

I'm adding additional URL support now.  Perl can examine connections in
the modern API so I can use the URL to match the a connection without
the session based connection IDs.  It may be difficult to do this in the
older version of Gaim that Ximian released.  I need to learn a few more
URL forms first.

I'll release a more flexible gaimurl/handle-url.pl combination later
this week.

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Re: [Evolution] command line?

[Jeffrey Stedfast]

In galeon, set the mailer command line to be:

evolution mailto:%t

that should work.

Jeff


On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 09:59, Marc Williams wrote:
> Is there a way to start Evolution with To: and Subject: via the command
> line?  The --usage screen didn't indicate there was so I thought I'd ask
> here.
> 
> I'd like to be able to plug Evolution as my mailer into my new browser
> (Galeon) but haven't seen the appropriate command line switches to do
> this.  To: and Subject: are almost required.  Others would be nice. 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Upgrading to v1.0

[evolution]

Update: Main problem now solved, not sure exactly how, a combination of
updates and rebooting.

Just have to fix the help files now...

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 15:53, Andrew Dance wrote:
> Running evolution-mail & evolution from the command line gives the following
> errors:
> 
> evolution-mail
> 
> e-utils-ERROR **: Very serious error, cannot activate private config
> database 'Unknown CORBRA exception id: 'IDL:0AF/GeneralError:1.0''
> aborting...
> Aborted (core dumped)
> 
> evolution
> 
> evoltution-shell-WARNING **:
> Could not start up component for OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent
> Cannot activate Evolution component --
> OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent
> Cannot activate Evolution component --
> OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Addressbook_ShellComponent
> 
> followed by:
> 
> e_folder_type_registry_get_icon_for_type() -- Unknown type 'mail'
> 
> repeated many, many times.
> 
> Andi
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[Evolution] Evolution on multiple displays?

[David Hoover]

I'm mucking around with my laptop to try & figure out the best way to
cope with having a 1024x768 lcd, but running my monitors at 1600x1200 at
home & work. Right now I'm trying running two different X-servers on it,
:0 and :1.

However, if I've got a session of evolution running on :0, and I try to
run one on :1, I get a quick flash of the splash screen, and then a new
evolution window opens on :0. If I kill it, and start it on :1, it
starts OK over there, but when I try and open one on :0, it shows up on
:1.

This is a bit anti-social of it, since it means I have to actually kill
evolution if I want to switch between my x servers. It's obnoxious, but
possible. A more damaging implication is that if I were to run a VNC
server on some box where I have evo running on :0, I'd be forced to kill
evo by pid if I connected to the vnc server, since I wouldn't have
physical access to :0.

Is there some trick to get this working, or should I file a bug about
it?

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[Evolution] Repeating tasks?

[Randy Orrison]

Is there any way to set up a repeating task?  I'm trying to migrate from
Outlook, and I have quite a few tasks that repeat, both at fixed
intervals (e.g. every two weeks) and at a time relative to the
completion of the current occurance (e.g. again in three days).  Does
(or if not, will) Evolution support this?

Thanks!

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Re: [Evolution] Repeating tasks?

[Luis Villa]

This is definitely on our short list of things to do for 1.2; can't
guarantee it'll make it into 1.2, though.
Luis

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 13:22, Randy Orrison wrote:
> Is there any way to set up a repeating task?  I'm trying to migrate from
> Outlook, and I have quite a few tasks that repeat, both at fixed
> intervals (e.g. every two weeks) and at a time relative to the
> completion of the current occurance (e.g. again in three days).  Does
> (or if not, will) Evolution support this?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Randy
> 
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Re: [Evolution] Re: Integrating Gaim in Evolution [adding jabber]

[Aaron Weber]

It would be natural to link to your project from our Developer Zone pages.

Would it be ok if we did that?



a.



On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 12:21, Sinzui Kobalt wrote:

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 11:18, Ross Burton wrote:
> On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 15:15, Sinzui Kobalt wrote:
> > I've put together a small package that will display Gaim's online
> > buddies in the Summary section on Evolution.  It's just a quick hack to
> > start; there's still a good number of features that can be done better. 
> > Gaim's creation of an RSS file is trivial.  Much more work needs to be
> > done for Gaim to handle URL well.
> 
> Congratulations on such a brilliantly ingenious hack.  I was wondering
> how you did it and will probably do exactly the same thing for Jabber!

I'm adding additional URL support now.  Perl can examine connections in
the modern API so I can use the URL to match the a connection without
the session based connection IDs.  It may be difficult to do this in the
older version of Gaim that Ximian released.  I need to learn a few more
URL forms first.

I'll release a more flexible gaimurl/handle-url.pl combination later
this week.

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[Evolution] Could not create composer window

[Evil Hanson (Will)]

I upgraded from 0.16 to 1.0 today and I can not compose a message.
(I am writing this message from webmail).

I am running RH 7.2 and have the following libgtkhtmls installed 

libgtkhtml19-0.16.1-ximian.1
gtkhtml-1.0.0-ximian.1
libgtkhtml17-0.14.0-ximian.2
libgtkhtml20-1.0.0-ximian.1
libgtkhtml15-0.12.0-ximian.6

The message I get when ever I click on "New Message"  is as follows


Could not create composer window:
Unable to activate HTML editor component.

The error from the activation system is:
Nothing matching the requirements.

I have tried (and have) uninstalled all gtkhtml , libgtkhtml and evolution
then reinstalling the ones the red-carpet told me to install then I
reinstalled evolution.
I then
ldconfig
killev 
oaf-slay

It did not help

I also tried doing the same process and adding oaf (uninstalling then
reinstalling).

It still does not work.

I don't know what to do.
Please give me any pointers.

I get the fealing oaf of libgtkhtml is to blame but I can not figure it
out. 

Thanks
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Re: [Evolution] Repeating tasks?

[Randy Orrison]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 18:51, Luis Villa wrote:
> This is definitely on our short list of things to do for 1.2; can't
> guarantee it'll make it into 1.2, though.

Thanks.  I guess I'll have to try to live without it, or stick with
Outlook for a while longer. :-(



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[Evolution] You guys rock

[David Curran]

That's pretty much it...  Thanks for all the hard work you guys put into
Evolution.

-david




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Re: [Evolution] A newbie question...

[James Harrison]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 11:01, Manuel Streuhofer wrote:
> imap is what you are looking for. :)
If only I could use imap...

> but the bbc can be done with a template...
I looked in the help, and found no information on how to create a
template... 
Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
Jamie   
> 

> Manuel
> 
> On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 17:41, James Harrison wrote:
> > Hey all,
> > 
> > Is their a way to have each message I compose to be automatically bcc'ed
> > to myself, and turn off storing sent messages in the sent items.  I
> > would like to do this because I use mutliple email clients and would
> > like to keep them all synchronized.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > James
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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[Evolution] How to change word wrap count?

[Mark W. Davis]

Sorry if this is a FAQ... although I didn't see mention of this topic in
the digests. How does one increase the word wrap count when composing?
It appears to be hard coded to 72 or so. When attempting to print a
message it also gets wrapped and this really messes up the print format.
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[Evolution] Evolution components dying

[Laurent]

HI,

I'm trying Evolution 1.0. I've defined a number of folders and my Inbox is the Unix 
spool. Now,
whenever I try to compose a new message, I get these messages:

The Evolution component that handles folders of type "mail" has unexpectedlty quit. 
Restart
Evolution to view the data.

When I click OK, I get another message this time with "vtrash". If I restart 
Evolution, I can
see my data but I get the same message if I try to compose a new mail message. What is 
going on?

Thanks,

L

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Re: [Evolution] serious problem in rc versions

[Ettore Perazzoli]

This is rc 1, I've had it since beta 4-5 something like that. Running
 on Mandrake 8. If I run evo from a console, then make it crash and
 exit. This is what I get.

  This is not enough information.  Can you try running evolution-mail in gdb in a separate terminal and get a stack trace?



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Re: [Evolution] gtkhtml 1.0??

[Ettore Perazzoli]

So, if I want the latest and greatest (including 1.0+), do I stick with
the HEAD?  IOW, will 1.0 changes be brought back into HEAD eventually,
and will the new features occur in HEAD, or have the 1.0+ streams
already been branched and HEAD is dead?

  You should never assume that the 1-0 Evolution compiles with GtkHTML from the trunk or vice versa.  If you use GtkHTML from the trunk, you also need Evolution from the trunk.



  Moreover, all the patches that go to the branch are also being backported to the trunk, but not vice versa.



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Re: [Evolution] Contacts

[Ettore Perazzoli]

I've had no responses at all on this.

It appears to be some sort of problem with gnome-db.

I'm going back to pine.

  It sounds like you might have some Berkeley DB -related problem.



  Are you compiling Evolution by yourself?  Are you using Berkeley DB 3.1.17?



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Re: [Evolution] Release 1.0

[Rob Brown-Bayliss]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 23:31, Duane C. Mallory wrote:
> I have successfully updated release 1.0 of Evolution through Red Carpet
> this morning. I must congratulate the whole Ximian crew on this mile
> stone event.

Why doesnt red carpet tell me that evolution 1.0 is there?  It's not a
usgested upgrade?
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Re: [Evolution] Release 1.0

[Rob Brown-Bayliss]

> Good question! Are you running RedHat 7.2 perhaps? I was able to update
> my RH7.1 system at work to Evo 1.o with red-carpet, but my RH7.2 machine
> at home still is told, ``up to date.'' Funny, since both the RH7.1 and
> RH7.2 versions are on the ximian ftp server with identical file creation
> times.

Spot on, in the end I used rc to uninstall redcarpet then I could
install from the install page.

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[Evolution] bugzilla id 15975

[Rob Brown-Bayliss]

Hi, I just installed evolution 1 and the folowwing bug is still a
problem: 

http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15975

Now, I know you have been busy, and many many bugs have suffered a
deserving death, but it seems to me that this one is really really
simple to fix. 

I say that because it actually works, just needs to be turned on for
every vfolder that uses it.
 
Once I have done a bogus edit of the vfolder rules (as in just pressed
teh ok button) the vfolder works as expected, and I am guessing that
it's missing a simple step when initialising the vfolder at startup.

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Re: [Evolution] Task pad display problem in Calendar view

[Bill Kenworthy]

Happened to me last night - my 7yo managed to break a lot of things
playing games.  Had to log/in and then reset everything - including a
lot of evo.  I have also had it make an "invisible" tree view that I
could not find till I stumbled across the drag thing.  Perhaps a minimum
frame size so at least a strip of a window is visible if it is enabled?

BillK

On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 01:28, Richard Bellavance wrote:
> On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 10:16, Larry Ewing wrote:
> > On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 10:07, Dan Winship wrote:
> > > 
> > > There's a vertical bar between the scrollbar and the right edge of the
> > > window. Drag it left, and voila. (You can also keep dragging left to get
> > > *two* months of calendar and a wider tasks view if you want to outdo
> > > your friend :-)
> > > 
> > 
> > You might also have to drag down from the top if all that shows up is
> > the task list.
> 
> Thanks !  That drag-bar was really not obvious, I thought it was the
> window's edge...
> 
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[Evolution] anon cvs

[Bill Kenworthy]

What is the status for anon cvs.  If I want the latest, should I use the
1.0 branch or stick with HEAD.  cvs two days ago still showed 0.99.2 and
no updates occurred.

Will you be going back to HEAD for the bleeding edge stuff?

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[Evolution] Evo-1.0 bug on New server settings

[mark]

I was looking thu the mail settings and decided to at last see what
'News' did.
Anyway I can reproduce this everytime. evo just hangs then gives the
error 

'The Evolution component that handles folders of type 'mail' has
unexpected;y quit. You will need to quit Evolution and restart in order
to access that data again''

If you do the following:

Tools | Mail Settings | News | Add | Cancel

Sorry If this has already been reported

Mark

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Re: [Evolution] Evo-1.0 bug on New server settings

[Jeffrey Stedfast]

Are you building the packages yourself or something? We don't support
News at all for 1.0, in fact we disabled it a long time ago.

Jeff

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 18:19, mark wrote:
> I was looking thu the mail settings and decided to at last see what
> 'News' did.
> Anyway I can reproduce this everytime. evo just hangs then gives the
> error 
> 
> 'The Evolution component that handles folders of type 'mail' has
> unexpected;y quit. You will need to quit Evolution and restart in order
> to access that data again''
> 
> If you do the following:
> 
> Tools | Mail Settings | News | Add | Cancel
> 
> Sorry If this has already been reported
> 
> Mark
> 
> btw Iam running RH 7.2
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Re: [Evolution] Evo-1.0 bug on New server settings - PLEASE IGNORE

[mark]

This bug does not affect the official Ximian build of Evolution.

Sorry for any confusion caused!!

Mark

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 23:19, mark wrote:
> I was looking thu the mail settings and decided to at last see what
> 'News' did.
> Anyway I can reproduce this everytime. evo just hangs then gives the
> error 
> 
> 'The Evolution component that handles folders of type 'mail' has
> unexpected;y quit. You will need to quit Evolution and restart in order
> to access that data again''
> 
> If you do the following:
> 
> Tools | Mail Settings | News | Add | Cancel
> 
> Sorry If this has already been reported
> 
> Mark
> 
> btw Iam running RH 7.2
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RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Rob Brown-Bayliss]

> Just to clarify:  We're not making a proprietary Evolution.  We're
> making a proprietary connector which is separate from Evolution and
> which uses CORBA to talk to Evolution.  Evolution itself is free.

Sounds good, hope the dollars roll in as deserved.

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[Evolution] help !! evolution 1.0 crashes

[Victor Hadianto]

Evo 1.0 crashes *everytime* I want to compose a new mail. I couldn't even 
revert to RC2 anymore. Must be one the updates that came along eith evolution 
1.0

attached is the stack trace.

Should I file a new bug report?

I would _really appreciate_ it if someone could help me here. I have to go 
back to (arghh heaven forbid) KMail for the time being.


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[victorh@host86 victorh]$ gdb evolution-mail
GNU gdb 19991004
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux"...
(no debugging symbols found)...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/evolution-mail 
[New Thread 3156 (manager thread)]
[New Thread 3080 (initial thread)]
[New Thread 3157]
[New Thread 3159]
[Switching to Thread 3159]
[Switching to Thread 3080 (initial thread)]
[New Thread 3162]
[New Thread 3163]

camel-WARNING **: camel_exception_get_id called with NULL parameter.
[New Thread 3164]
[Switching to Thread 3164]
[Switching to Thread 3163]

camel-WARNING **: Flushing a filter stream without writing to it
[Switching to Thread 3080 (initial thread)]

camel-WARNING **: Flushing a filter stream without writing to it
impl_event = command_after

Program received signal SIGTERM, Terminated.
0x40b07a04 in __libc_open () from /lib/libc.so.6
(gdb) thread apply all bt

Thread 6 (Thread 3163):
#0  0x40a7fdcb in __sigsuspend (set=0xbf1ffc08)
at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sigsuspend.c:48
#1  0x401e7c62 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal (self=0xbf1ffe40)
at pthread.c:783
#2  0x401e4960 in pthread_cond_wait (cond=0x8134760, mutex=0x8134740)
at restart.h:26
#3  0x40075274 in e_msgport_wait (mp=0x8134718) at e-msgport.c:198
#4  0x4007584a in thread_dispatch (din=0x81346c8) at e-msgport.c:517
#5  0x401e5b85 in pthread_start_thread (arg=0xbf1ffe40) at manager.c:241

Thread 5 (Thread 3162):
#0  0x40a7fdcb in __sigsuspend (set=0xbf3ffc08)
at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sigsuspend.c:48
#1  0x401e7c62 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal (self=0xbf3ffe40)
at pthread.c:783
#2  0x401e4960 in pthread_cond_wait (cond=0x8134760, mutex=0x8134740)
at restart.h:26
#3  0x40075274 in e_msgport_wait (mp=0x8134718) at e-msgport.c:198
#4  0x4007584a in thread_dispatch (din=0x81346c8) at e-msgport.c:517
#5  0x401e5b85 in pthread_start_thread (arg=0xbf3ffe40) at manager.c:241

Thread 4 (Thread 3159):
#0  0x40a7fdcb in __sigsuspend (set=0xbf5ffc08)
at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sigsuspend.c:48
#1  0x401e7c62 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal (self=0xbf5ffe40)
at pthread.c:783
#2  0x401e4960 in pthread_cond_wait (cond=0x81346b8, mutex=0x8134698)
at restart.h:26
#3  0x40075274 in e_msgport_wait (mp=0x8134670) at e-msgport.c:198
#4  0x4007584a in thread_dispatch (din=0x8134620) at e-msgport.c:517
#5  0x401e5b85 in pthread_start_thread (arg=0xbf5ffe40) at manager.c:241

Thread 3 (Thread 3157):
#0  0x40a7fdcb in __sigsuspend (set=0xbf7ffc08)
at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sigsuspend.c:48
#1  0x401e7c62 in __pthread_wait_for_restart_signal (self=0xbf7ffe40)
at pthread.c:783
---Type  to continue, or q  to quit---
#2  0x401e4960 in pthread_cond_wait (cond=0x8134610, mutex=0x81345f0)
at restart.h:26
#3  0x40075274 in e_msgport_wait (mp=0x81345c8) at e-msgport.c:198
#4  0x4007584a in thread_dispatch (din=0x8134578) at e-msgport.c:517
#5  0x401e5b85 in pthread_start_thread (arg=0xbf7ffe40) at manager.c:241

Thread 2 (Thread 3080 (initial thread)):
#0  0x40b07a04 in __libc_open () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x401f1d1c in ?? () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#2  0x80a1612 in e_msg_composer_clear_inlined_table ()
#3  0x80a16f5 in e_msg_composer_get_sig_file_content ()
#4  0x80a18e7 in e_msg_composer_get_sig_file_content ()
#5  0x80a5902 in e_msg_composer_show_sig_file ()
#6  0x80a3579 in e_msg_composer_get_sig_file_content ()
#7  0x408f7c6f in gtk_marshal_NONE__NONE (object=0x859ece8, 
func=0x80a3538 , 
func_data=0x8437d80, args=0xbfffef24) at gtkmarshal.c:312
#8  0x40924477 in gtk_handlers_run (handlers=0x840, signal=0xbfffeee0, 
object=0x859ece8, params=0xbfffef24, after=0) at gtksignal.c:1917
#9  0x4092394f in gtk_signal_real_emit (object=0x859ece8, signal_id=264, 
params=0xbfffef24) at gtksignal.c:1477
#10 0x40921be0 in gtk_signal_emit (object=0x859ece8, signal_id=264)
at gtksignal.c:552
#11 0x809eb58 in subscribe_dialog_get_type ()
#12 0x408f7c6f in gtk_marshal_NONE__NONE (object=0x8423784, 
func=0x809eae4 , func_data=0x859ece8, 
args=0xb28c) at gtkmarshal.c:312
#13 0x40924477 in gtk_handlers_run (handlers=0x852b1c8, signal=0xb244, 
object=0x8423784, params=0xb28c, after=0) at gtksignal.c:1917
#14 0x4092394f 

RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Stephen Witkop]

The only problem that I have with this is the timing. Ximian Connector
has obviously been planned for some time, so why wasn't it laid out
along with all the other plans for evolution. It just makes it seem as
though Ximian was afraid they would lose support among developers and
users so they didn't announce anything until they had what they wanted.
I'm not saying that's what they were actually doing but that's certainly
the way it seems.

Don't get me wrong, I think Ximian should absolutely be able to make
money, and make money on Evolution in whatever way they see fit but the
appearance of deception doesn't do anything for their image amongst the
Linux community. It opens them up to people asking themselves what else
they aren't saying about their plans for red-carpet and gnome. This is
especially since they have such a strong position on the
gnome-foundation board.

How Ximian is percieved is very important to the open source community.
If they fail then noone will put up capital to help open source
companies get going and if they alienate the community by doing things
in ways the seem deceptive they will fail and we will all lose.

Stephen

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 03:04, Jeppe, Nils wrote:
> 
> Hello Chris,
> 
> What's the problem here? It isn't like this is the first bit of commercial
> software for Linux or UNIX. -gasp- what a revelation: A company that is in
> it for the money! For me, the Connector is a lifesaver and I only wish
> they'd announced a little earlier while I was still on a wild goose chase
> for a Linux <-> Outlook/Exchange Calendaring interoperatibility (sp)
> solution. $69 to hook up a Linux machine to an existing network is still a
> big money saver for corporations, heck, a license of Windows 9x costs more
> than that. You'd save boatloads on security alone. I can easily imagine this
> to be a big market. I know that *I* will bug my boss to get me a license so
> I can get rid of my Win2k Workstation.
> 
> As for the GPL vs. Proprietary issue, what's the big deal? How about a
> forked version, or a plugin or something like that. It's all been done
> before and we still have a free OS, don't we? Just because the EvoEx
> Connector is proprietary doesn't mean the OS - or even Evo for that matter -
> isn't.
> 
> What good is Linux on the Workstation if it cannot talk to the rest of the
> world?
> 
> Now if Ximian dumps support/development of Free Evo in favor of Proprietary
> Evo, that's when you can start to get all bitchy. ;-)
> 
> 
> No offense meant by any of what I say.
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> - Nils
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Ball [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Dienstag, 4. Dezember 2001 01:20
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 03:40:48PM -0800, Ujwal S. Sathyam wrote:
> > This sounds really interesting.
> 
> .. furthermore, it sounds like a wonderful business model, given
> that nothing else really does this yet.  It seems that even Evolution
> doesn't, from the examples of discussion on here that I've seen - for
> example, our calendaring at the moment is p2p, right?  How will Evo(GPL)
> handle this when Evo(Proprietary) appears?  Is it really planned to
> have a version of iCal that wanders around client->client as well as a
> version that talks to servers?
> 
> It all sounds a bit, um, icky.  And I'm guessing that the development of
> the connector isn't going to be at all publically discussed.  And I'm a
> little frustrated that the mail client that I thought was this huge
> effort on the part of the community to write the app that's going to 
> be a /huge/ part in bringing Linux to the desktop is only going to be
> the answer to Outlook in a "Yeah, use Evolution.  It's cool.  Oh, but
> you have to pay for Exchange interoperability." way, and that no-one
> mentioned this before.  Feels almost like we have to start again, to
> find another way of arguing "Linux is free.  You can do _this_ with it."
> to our bosses.  
> 
> Anyway.  Someone had to rant.  I think the more fair argument is that,
> well, /I/ haven't put any code into Evo.  And most of us haven't.  And
> there's no way in hell it'd be here if Ximian hadn't hired people and
> all of this, so it's at least justified.  
> 
> But enough.  I'm off to try and get my 1.0 install alive again.
> 
> - ~C, a little disillusioned. 
> -- 
> $a="printf.net"; Chris Ball | chris@void.$a | www.$a | finger: chris@$a
> As to luck, there's the old miners' proverb: Gold is where you find it.
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[Evolution] old bug back

[Seth Hollen]

I upgraded to Evo 1.0 and an old bug that was fixed in RC1 for came
back.
When I try to check the mail in one of my pop accounts it keeps asking
mr for my password then says I already have an active pop session and
exits.
Anyone else have this?


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RE: [Evolution] Ximian Connector?

[Brian]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 19:09, Stephen Witkop wrote:
> The only problem that I have with this is the timing. Ximian Connector
> has obviously been planned for some time, so why wasn't it laid out
> along with all the other plans for evolution. It just makes it seem as
> though Ximian was afraid they would lose support among developers and
> users so they didn't announce anything until they had what they wanted.
> I'm not saying that's what they were actually doing but that's certainly
> the way it seems.

*DISCLAIMER*: Don't take this personally, Stephen, as I'm not aiming
this square at you.  This is a general rant.


So what if they did make a proprietary plug-in and had it planned all
along?  They've given us a great mailer that's completely standards
compliant and 100% free!  I consider myself just as much of a GPL/FSF
supporting guy but jeez ... do I feel betrayed by Ximian because they
didn't clue me in about a plug-in that is of no use to me anyway?  In a
word: NO!  They have to make money somehow and giving away software
*isn't* it.  If people find their making proprietary software
"distasteful" then they should ante up and buy either their standard or
professional edition of Ximian Gnome (I plan on doing it once 1.0 is on
the CD that I'm buying).  Why is the Linux community filled with folks
who find simple economics distasteful??  I myself have watched with
baited breath ... hoping Ximian wouldn't go the way of Eazel once its
product hit 1.0.  Ximian's been a software company whose primary
products were stuffed monkeys and t-shirts until recently.  How can we,
the community, leech the efforts that they're funding and then complain
when they attempt to support themselves?

They are a business, they must sell software to stay in business.  Their
proprietary plug-in is of use to those who already languish in a closed
source environment.  This has no bearing on those of us who use/support
open standards.  When it does, then I'll bitch!


B


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Re: [Red-carpet] Re: [Evolution] Release 1.0

[Rob Brown-Bayliss]

> > Why doesnt red carpet tell me that evolution 1.0 is there?  It's not a
> > usgested upgrade?
> 
> Possibilities (you haven't given me much to work with):
> 
> - You don't have Evolution installed already, so it wouldn't be an
> upgrade, it would be a fresh install.
> 
> - You're using a mirror that hasn't gotten the Evolution 1.0 release
> synced yet.
> 
> - You're not subscribed to the Ximian GNOME channel inside Red Carpet,
> so it's not showing you updates from that channel.
> 
> Let me know if it's any of these, if not, I'll try to think of other
> possible reasons.


I run red-carpet striaght out of the rpm, so I guess it's on the main
mirror, any way, I have been runnig evo since before rc, and have used
rc to upgrade evo since the channel was avaialble,

In the end I used RC to uninstall the beta and then it was available to
install.  (note it was not even listed as an install untill I removed
it)

good luck.

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Re: [Evolution] help !! evolution 1.0 crashes

[Victor Hadianto]

> attached is the stack trace.

Just a bit of information the step that I did to produce the crash that is 
shown in the stack trace is by clicking the "New Email" button.

Regards,
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Re: [Evolution] Re: Integrating Gaim in Evolution [adding jabber]

[Sinzui Kobalt]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 12:50, Luis Villa wrote:
> How new of a gaim would this require? Our experience is that the newest
> gaims are extremely unstable, which is why we haven't really pushed
> them, but I guess we'd take another look at reasonably new versions if
> this kind of hack would be possible/useful.

> > I'm adding additional URL support now.  Perl can examine connections in
> > the modern API so I can use the URL to match the a connection without
> > the session based connection IDs.  It may be difficult to do this in the
> > older version of Gaim that Ximian released.  I need to learn a few more
> > URL forms first.

I'm no expert with Gaim.  The Perl API that supports/acknowledges
multiple connects/protocols was introduced in Gaim 0.45 (10/04/2001). 
The plugin API is superior, and I believe (crossing my fingers) that the
Ximian release (0.11.0-pre9) also understands non-AIM protocols.

I think the Perl that makes the RSS is adequate (for versions 0.45+),
but URL handling would be better suited as a plugin, or even better by
Gaim itself.  I'm willing to give the plugin a go.  Even though older
Gaims don't know what protocol a buddy is on, The Perl RSS script could
batch it to an other source that does--a field in Evo's Contacts
perhaps.

I'm improving the handling of URLs now because Perl lets me make quick
changes.  when I'm settled with the functionality, I'll move it to a
plugin, hopefully one that works well in earlier versions of Gaim.  My
main drive to get better URL handling to to remove the session based
connection ID I inserted in the RSS.  Once the URL is in a true form,
and not a hack, I can hack Evo's contacts to support IM
identities--click to send an IM, or use the IM fields (AIM, Jabber, MSN)
to match the online list to the protocol to make the URL.  Lots of
potential.


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Re: [Evolution] Can't Initialize Evolution

[Damon Chaplin]

On Tue, 2001-12-04 at 11:21, Gil Hauer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I had the same problem (in fact, I've been having it for a while!) and
> noticed the same symptoms as Chris did. I forced a new install of
> libnspr4 and wombat sees all of it's shared libraries.
> 
> However, when I start evolution I still get this application message in
> my shell:
> 
>   evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase \
>   on wombat: (IDL: bonobo/Moniker/InterfaceNotFound:1.0)
> 
> ... and a dialog window that says:
> 
>   Cannot Initialize the Ximian Evolution shell: Configuration \
>   Database not found
> 
> This is using RedHat 7.2 with all the latest Ximian updates.
> 
> killev; oaf-slay does not help the situation. Fresh reboot as well.
> 
> Any ideas? Please?
> 
> Thanks, Gil

I just got this after upgrading a RedHat 7.0 system:

wombat: relocation error: /usr/lib/libnspr4.so: undefined symbol: fstat

evolution-shell-WARNING **: Cannot access Bonobo/ConfigDatabase on
wombat: (IDL:OAF/GeneralError:1.0)


I updated mozilla and Evolution now works. I think there is a dependency
problem with the mozilla libraries Evolution uses.

Damon



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[Evolution] not all components working

[Vishwanath T. K.]

Hi All,

I had the problem with evolution-1.0 that not all the components of it is 
working. Evolution hangs if i select any component other than mail for eg. 
summary, addressbook, task etc. I remember facing similar problem earlier 
which was due to some compatibility problem with pilot-link package as 
evolution was not able to use correct library. And some these components do 
use ppilot-link libraries.

I am using rh-7.2 with pilot-link-0.9.5-2, gnome-pilot-0.1.62-3 and 
gtkhtml-1.0.

Any help on this will be great.

Thanx in advance 

bye

-vishy

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[Evolution] 1.0 Configuration incompatability help

[dpeterso]

I just upgraded from RC2 to 1.0 and the executive summary crashes 
immediately every time.  By moving my old evolution directory out of the 
way and starting fresh, the summary seems to fire up just fine.  *But* I 
would rather not go through the hassle of re-creating ALL of my 
SPAM/Maiing list/family folders/filters/rules.  Can someone point out the 
relevant section of what file from the original config to change so I can 
use my old tree?  Or, just tell me what files/directories need to be 
copied over for that to work.

Thanks,
-Don
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[Evolution] configure with kerb problems

[Arren Mund]

here's what i run when i do the configure:

./configure --with-db3=/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.3.1/
--with-krb4=/usr/heimdal/

here's the error in my config.log:
configure:11251: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused  
-I/usr/local/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/local/lib/glib/include
-I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include  -L/usr/heimdal//lib
-L/usr/local/ssl/lib -lkrb4 -lcrypto -lcom_err -L/usr/heimdal/lib
-lroken conftest.c  1>&5
/tmp/ccfE8IWE.o: In function `main':
/tmp/evolution-1.0/configure:11247: undefined reference to `krb_mk_req'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 11240 "configure"
#include "confdefs.h" 
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2
builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply.  */
char krb_mk_req();

int main() {
krb_mk_req()
; return 0; }

if i add char krb_mk_req() {} it configures but i get a compile error
relating to kerberos.  does anyone know why i receive this problem
during the configure and how i can fix it?

Thanks,
Arren Mund




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[Evolution] No more macros in CVS?

[Lonnie Borntreger]

Went to update gal, gtkhtml and evolution (my nightly check for updates) from the HEAD, and all three had all the files under their "macros" directory removed.  That means that autogen.sh fails since it can't find files.



Problem?





TTFN, 

Lonnie Borntreger



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