Re: Tracking email use to save bandwidth

2003-06-23 Thread mike dilworth
i know for sure that e-nspect does provide this level of detail.

mike

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From: Coleman, Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Tracking email use to save bandwidth


 I'm sure that information would be nice to have, but if you need that
you'll
 have to look for other solutions. Promodag may do this, but I haven't
looked
 at their stuff in a long time.

 Hunter


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 From: mike dilworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:27 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 what about attachment names, sizes, mimemtypes? all very usefull stuff

 mike


 - Original Message -
 From: Coleman, Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 4:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Tracking email use to save bandwidth


 
  http://www.swinc.com/resource/scripts.htm
 
  Scripts there that will generate email usage reports per user, breaking
 out
  internal mail, external mail, # of messages, size of messages, etc.
You'll
  need to have Message Tracking enabled, as was already mentioned
 
  Hunter
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Peter White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:06 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Hi,
  I hope somebody can help us out.  We have Exchange 5.5 sp4 and about
 100
  users in three geographical locations.  Our problem is that some of our
  users regard the company email as their own personal amusement center
and
  frequently cc emails with large attachments to 25 or more of their
 personal
  internet email buddies.  We have only a 512k internet connection and
this
  heavy non-business email traffic slows our legitimate site-to-site
  communication to a crawl.
 I feel sure that just a few users are really abusing the system and
I'd
  like to find out who they are. I don't want to penalize everyone in the
  company because of a few ignorant users who abuse the system. Can I
track
  which users are sending attachements, how big the attachments are and
how
  many people they are ccing to?  If I can get that info I can deal with
the
  abusers without stepping on email for everyone in the company.
 
 
  thanks
 
  Peter White
 
 
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RE: OWA and the M:

2003-06-23 Thread Rob Hackney
Are you bored?

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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 20 June 2003 20:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA and the M:


There is no M: drive.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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Hi, 
I stopped my IIS services recently on and restarting I noticed in the
properties for the public and exchange folders that the directory it
points to is the M:\domain\public folders and \mbx respectively.  Is
this by design as I thought the M: did not exist as such?  (Sorry for
another q on the m drive...) It still seems to work ok tho

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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Midgley, Ian
Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an email
policy defined and that all your companies employees know what it is.
Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading someones
privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable grounds to do
this sort of thing.

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Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
To: Exchange Discussions
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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Slinger, Gary
Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable grounds to do this
sort of thing.

Depends on jurisdiction. 


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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 07:10
To: Exchange Discussions

Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an email
policy defined and that all your companies employees know what it is.
Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading someones
privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable grounds to do
this sort of thing.

-Original Message-
From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
give yourself permissions to everyone's mailbox and start reading their mail
:)

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RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

2003-06-23 Thread Roger Seielstad
I'd wager that Siegfried is fully aware of the differences, probably more so
than most on the list.

The question I have is what's the status of this hotfix with regards to
E2k3? Is there an expectation that this functionality will be included in
the RTM release?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:40 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
 
 
 I know about the hotfix and am not crazy about installing hotfixes, so
 we're waiting at this point.  Nothing accesses the M: drive on our E2K
 servers, it's excluded from vscan.  We don't do single folder backups
 and our backups run after midnight.  OL2002 works sometimes here, too.
 Nothing is constant.  I know rules fire on notes, but everything from
 the internet comes into PF as posts.  Some of our rules just stop
 working at times, though, on notes with nothing in the logs and with
 logging turned up to max.  If you've never had a lot of PFs in 5.5 and
 now you've gone to E2K, you can't really understand the differences.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 6:45 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
 
 
 As for being posts instead of notes, see Andy's reply and 
 call Microsoft
 for a free of charge fix.
 
 I've never used rules much on PF's hence I cannot comment on 
 that. I do
 understand that a rule doesn't fire if it is a post item but it should
 fire on a note item. I'd be interested to hear if you have any
 additional info what's going on. Especially if the store is 
 hit by other
 applications like a MAPI based backup (single folder backup thingy
 maybe?) or an antivirus scanner (either MAPI or ESE/VSAPI based)?
 
 Also, you do know that you should stay away from the M: Drive, don't
 you? The symptoms (like the permissions issue - I just tested with
 Outlook 2002 SP2 and it works here) you describe point me into the
 direction that you are running some piece of software which 
 accesses the
 M: Drive (like a file based backup or AV scanner) and causes some of
 your grief.
 
 Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /
 
 Development Lead,
 
 CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration Application
 Experts http://www.cdolive.com
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 12:06 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
  
  
  That's too bad.  We have thousands of PFs and have always
  encouraged people to opt for a PF rather than a mailbox 
  anytime they need somewhere to receive email to be viewed by 
  people who already had a mailbox.  In 5.5, PFs worked pretty 
  much flawlessly.  In 2000, they're terrible.  The rules just 
  stop working intermittently.  The PFs that receive mostly 
  outside mail are now posts, so the rules don't work at all on 
  those anymore.  The user role permissions are finally cleaned 
  up so that Exchange 2000 can interpret them.  We only have 
  replicas on one of our 2000 servers now since replication 
  caused too much latency.  Sometimes, even though we have 
  owner permissions on all of the PFs, if we use Outlook 2002 
  to view the properties, we're told we don't have permission, 
  but if we view them in OL2000, we can make whatever changes 
  an owner should be able to make.  Searching for something in 
  PFs used to be a breeze when they were on our 5.5 servers, 
  now, you may or may not find what you're looking for even 
  though you know it's in there.
  
  We're getting to the point that it would be easier to create
  mailboxes for the PFs that we constantly get called on, the 
  ones with rules that stop working, mostly, and that's such a 
  waste to have to create a mailbox when all you really need is 
  a PF.  I'd guess we got maybe 10 PF calls in the 5 years 
  we've been running Exchange for actual problems with the 
  server, not the usual, user doesn't understand the 
  permissions calls, and now that we've moved our PFs to E2K, 
  we get at least 10 calls a week with PF server issues, if not 
  more.  We've turned logging up to highest on everything to do 
  with PFs and nothing ever shows up in the logs to give us a 
  clue as to why they sometimes work and sometimes don't.  When 
  the forwarding rules stop working, a server restart is the 
  only thing that fixes it.  I'm really beginning to hate PFs.  
  When I went to MEC2000, in one of the classes, they said that 
  in E2K, you'd be able to change permissions on PFs without 
  replacing permissions - what happened to that?  Wouldn't that 
  be helpful when you have thousands of PFs?  I know, PFAdmin, 
  which may or may not work correctly.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Midgley, Ian
Sure does but I'd rather have someone elses butt on the line than mine,
especially if 'm doing it for them anyway. I'm intrigued - where is phone
tapping legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 12:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable grounds to do this
sort of thing.

Depends on jurisdiction. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 07:10
To: Exchange Discussions

Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an email
policy defined and that all your companies employees know what it is.
Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading someones
privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable grounds to do
this sort of thing.

-Original Message-
From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Monitor Email content


I have been tasked with reviewing the content of employee email. What is the
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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Martin Blackstone
That's why you want to make sure your company has a policy in place and that
all of your staff is aware of this.
You also want to get this in writing from HR and have THEM do the
monitoring. You simply set it up for them, and let them have at it. 

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

Sure does but I'd rather have someone elses butt on the line than mine,
especially if 'm doing it for them anyway. I'm intrigued - where is phone
tapping legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 12:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable grounds to do this
sort of thing.

Depends on jurisdiction. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 07:10
To: Exchange Discussions

Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an email
policy defined and that all your companies employees know what it is.
Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading someones
privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable grounds to do
this sort of thing.

-Original Message-
From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Slinger, Gary
Russia?  Dunno.  I wasn't referring to phone taps; there are any number of
situations where monitoring of email is legal without consent. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

Sure does but I'd rather have someone elses butt on the line than mine,
especially if 'm doing it for them anyway. I'm intrigued - where is phone
tapping legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 12:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable grounds to do this
sort of thing.

Depends on jurisdiction. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 07:10
To: Exchange Discussions

Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an email
policy defined and that all your companies employees know what it is.
Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading someones
privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable grounds to do
this sort of thing.

-Original Message-
From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: .Pst on OWA?

2003-06-23 Thread Roger Seielstad
That's why you shouldn't support OWA as a primary client for those people

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA?
 
 
 :) 
 
 No other way to let OWA users to able to drag their Server 
 Email into their
 own pc..  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 1:06 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA?
 
 
  (Imagination, add a custom application integrate into OWA to 
  open a pst file from the workstation not the exchange server 
  :- Pst store in the workstation not exchange )
 
 That cannot work. The file is on the client, OWA runs on the server.
 What you are asking for is create a new client application 
 that runs on
 your client computer to open your client PST file. That's not OWA any
 longer, that's Outlook 97/98/2000/2002/2003. Already exists 
 and does the
 job opening a PST fairly well.
 
 Can you open a Word document stored on your local HD from a Web
 application without uploading it first?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 4:26 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA?
  
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 9:57 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA?
  
  Siegfried..
  (I knew) You can already use OWA to open somebody else's 
  mailbox calendar or anther public folder because this data is 
  stored on the server. 
  
  (I knew) I can imagine a custom application to import a PST 
  into the Exchanger server database using a Web browser based 
  interface that integrates into OWA (fairly simple, works here 
  in a simple prototype).
  
  (Imagination, add a custom application integrate into OWA to 
  open a pst file from the workstation not the exchange server 
  :- Pst store in the workstation not exchange ) But I cannot 
  imagine how you'd share a drive or PST to open it directly in 
  OWA. It's just two different worlds...
  
  forget it since it cannot be done, only can imagine..   :) 
  
  thanks
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:33 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA?
   
   
   I've though of that b4, I thought the new version is so powerful..
   
   It might can work as how its work with using Outlook
   Properties with Exchange Server (Intranet) to open Mailbox  
   P.Folder. 
   
   Browse OWA through IE or etc is just only a browser, enable
   to open a file from within the workstation through browser is 
   something that i can imagine (of coz,just imagine). 
   
   Every Management in different Organization requires different
   thing. In my side, others country staff is using our Exchange 
   Email. Hence they can only manage to open with either email 
   through POP3 or OWA. I would stress to disable POP3. Their 
   only choice left is to open with OWA. They needs to save ALL 
   the items that they have SENT  receive. They keep it either 
   for an evidence or for information. No choice, their database 
   is too big for it to keep inside the server. 
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:46 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA?
   
   
   So how do you think that would work, exactly?  Since OWA is
   served up on the server, the server would have to know about 
   the PST.  But the PST is usually on the workstation.  So 
   would you share the drive your PST is on so the server 
  could read it?
   
   Sometimes just a little thought helps before asking a question.
   
   Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
   Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
   Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fioon
   Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:30 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: .Pst on OWA?
   
   
   
   Anyone knows that can OWA in 2k or 2k3 able to open .pst?
   
   Decide to close POP3, it will have problem on limited 
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Help with OWA 5.5 after changing firewalls....

2003-06-23 Thread Chyka Robert
Hello everone,

finally got the boss at a side job to scrap MS Proxy 2.0 and put a PIX 515 in.  
Exchange 5.5 is running on the same box as Proxy 2.0.  i removed Proxy 2.0 and now OWA 
5.5 does not work thru my PIX.  i have a NAT translation configured for our mail 
server and have tcp ports 25 and 80 open on the pix for OWA.  when i go to the page, i 
get You are not authorized to view this page  HPPT 403 Forbidden error.  i have Log 
on Locally rights on this machine and was wondering what else i should check.  it was 
working perfectly before until i changed our Proxy out for a real firewall.  Server is 
NT 4.0 (for now) SP 6a IIS 4.0.

any help is appreciated.


Bob C.

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RE: Unread Message Indicator Next To Inbox/Calendar

2003-06-23 Thread Van Hooser, Chuck
Check for filters on your client.



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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Unread Message Indicator Next To Inbox/Calendar


Good Morning All,

Next to the Inbox icon in the Folder list view, is a blue number in
parenthesis.  I assume that this is some kind of indicator of unread
messages.  All folders have them.  

My question is this:  
Sometimes it shows that their are unread messages when I know that I have
read them all.  Even when i view the Inbox to look for the unread
message(s), the Inbox shows no unread messages.  Same with the
calendarhow can I find the unread appointment? I have done F5 to
refresh the screen and nothing

Anyone ever seen this or has this happened to you?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 Clients

Samantha

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RE: Unread Message Indicator Next To Inbox/Calendar

2003-06-23 Thread Bridges, Samantha
OkI will...thank you.

But, what would that have to do with the filters?

Thanks

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Van Hooser, Chuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unread Message Indicator Next To Inbox/Calendar


Check for filters on your client.



-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Unread Message Indicator Next To Inbox/Calendar


Good Morning All,

Next to the Inbox icon in the Folder list view, is a blue number in
parenthesis.  I assume that this is some kind of indicator of unread
messages.  All folders have them.  

My question is this:  
Sometimes it shows that their are unread messages when I know that I have
read them all.  Even when i view the Inbox to look for the unread
message(s), the Inbox shows no unread messages.  Same with the
calendarhow can I find the unread appointment? I have done F5 to
refresh the screen and nothing

Anyone ever seen this or has this happened to you?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 Clients

Samantha

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RE: Unread Message Indicator Next To Inbox/Calendar

2003-06-23 Thread Van Hooser, Chuck
We had one person who set up a filter to only show read messages. If you
looked at his inbox it was empty but when we cleared the filter he had 800+
unread messages that had been filtered from the view. This may or may not
be related to your problem.



-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unread Message Indicator Next To Inbox/Calendar


OkI will...thank you.

But, what would that have to do with the filters?

Thanks

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Van Hooser, Chuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unread Message Indicator Next To Inbox/Calendar


Check for filters on your client.



-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Unread Message Indicator Next To Inbox/Calendar


Good Morning All,

Next to the Inbox icon in the Folder list view, is a blue number in
parenthesis.  I assume that this is some kind of indicator of unread
messages.  All folders have them.  

My question is this:  
Sometimes it shows that their are unread messages when I know that I have
read them all.  Even when i view the Inbox to look for the unread
message(s), the Inbox shows no unread messages.  Same with the
calendarhow can I find the unread appointment? I have done F5 to
refresh the screen and nothing

Anyone ever seen this or has this happened to you?

Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server
Outlook 2000 Clients

Samantha

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Re: Help with OWA 5.5 after changing firewalls....

2003-06-23 Thread Tony Hlabse
Try this link for starters.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B326856

From: Chyka Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help with OWA 5.5 after changing firewalls
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:04:31 -0400
Hello everone,

finally got the boss at a side job to scrap MS Proxy 2.0 and put a PIX 515 
in.  Exchange 5.5 is running on the same box as Proxy 2.0.  i removed Proxy 
2.0 and now OWA 5.5 does not work thru my PIX.  i have a NAT translation 
configured for our mail server and have tcp ports 25 and 80 open on the pix 
for OWA.  when i go to the page, i get You are not authorized to view this 
page  HPPT 403 Forbidden error.  i have Log on Locally rights on this 
machine and was wondering what else i should check.  it was working 
perfectly before until i changed our Proxy out for a real firewall.  Server 
is NT 4.0 (for now) SP 6a IIS 4.0.

any help is appreciated.

Bob C.

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RE: .Pst on OWA?

2003-06-23 Thread Chuck Parkey
Why not IMAP??

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 10:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA?


:) 

No other way to let OWA users to able to drag their Server Email into their
own pc..  

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA?


 (Imagination, add a custom application integrate into OWA to 
 open a pst file from the workstation not the exchange server 
 :- Pst store in the workstation not exchange )

That cannot work. The file is on the client, OWA runs on the server.
What you are asking for is create a new client application that runs on
your client computer to open your client PST file. That's not OWA any
longer, that's Outlook 97/98/2000/2002/2003. Already exists and does the
job opening a PST fairly well.

Can you open a Word document stored on your local HD from a Web
application without uploading it first?

 -Original Message-
 From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 4:26 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA?
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 9:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA?
 
 Siegfried..
 (I knew) You can already use OWA to open somebody else's 
 mailbox calendar or anther public folder because this data is 
 stored on the server. 
 
 (I knew) I can imagine a custom application to import a PST 
 into the Exchanger server database using a Web browser based 
 interface that integrates into OWA (fairly simple, works here 
 in a simple prototype).
 
 (Imagination, add a custom application integrate into OWA to 
 open a pst file from the workstation not the exchange server 
 :- Pst store in the workstation not exchange ) But I cannot 
 imagine how you'd share a drive or PST to open it directly in 
 OWA. It's just two different worlds...
 
 forget it since it cannot be done, only can imagine..   :) 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Fioon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:33 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA?
  
  
  I've though of that b4, I thought the new version is so powerful..
  
  It might can work as how its work with using Outlook
  Properties with Exchange Server (Intranet) to open Mailbox  
  P.Folder. 
  
  Browse OWA through IE or etc is just only a browser, enable
  to open a file from within the workstation through browser is 
  something that i can imagine (of coz,just imagine). 
  
  Every Management in different Organization requires different
  thing. In my side, others country staff is using our Exchange 
  Email. Hence they can only manage to open with either email 
  through POP3 or OWA. I would stress to disable POP3. Their 
  only choice left is to open with OWA. They needs to save ALL 
  the items that they have SENT  receive. They keep it either 
  for an evidence or for information. No choice, their database 
  is too big for it to keep inside the server. 
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 3:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: .Pst on OWA?
  
  
  So how do you think that would work, exactly?  Since OWA is
  served up on the server, the server would have to know about 
  the PST.  But the PST is usually on the workstation.  So 
  would you share the drive your PST is on so the server 
 could read it?
  
  Sometimes just a little thought helps before asking a question.
  
  Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
  Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
  Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fioon
  Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:30 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: .Pst on OWA?
  
  
  
  Anyone knows that can OWA in 2k or 2k3 able to open .pst?
  
  Decide to close POP3, it will have problem on limited mailbox space.
  
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Operation failed when accessing Public Folder

2003-06-23 Thread Darrin J. Carter
Hi,

I've been having a problem with one of my Public folders.  I have it setup to be used 
for contacts.  Occationally I will get the Operation failed error message when 
clicking on the letter tabs on the right hand side of the Outlook window.  I cannot 
reproduce the issue at will and the users that use the folder are getting a little 
upset.  Once I have them close Outlook and open it up again they are fine  I have 
them running on Outlook 2000  and Exchange 2000 SP3.  Is there a way that I can check 
the integrity of the contacts?

Thanks,
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GroupWise Migration - calendar items fail

2003-06-23 Thread Button, Debbie
We've just started to migrate users from GW to Exchange and some users
fail on calendar items and notes (which are migrated as an all day
appointment).  GW notes are different from Exchange notes.  We have not
yet figured out what kind of calendar items.  Anyone else run into this
who can tell me where to look?  Thanks, Debbie


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Re: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Chris H
not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an email
 policy defined and that all your companies employees know what it is.
 Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading someones
 privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


 I have been tasked with reviewing the content of employee email. What is
the
 best method?

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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Dan Bartley
In some states of the US that is true. In others you must provide due
notice. In some cases even a logon warning is recommended. Otherwise the
company can be liable for civil action. Email does not actually fall in
to the wiretapping statutes, I don't think anyway.

For wiretapping, it is different. In fact, in some states, even cameras
and baby monitors can be used with no notice. The defining rule on
that is whether it is recorded or not. If it is not recorded, it does
not fall in to the wiretap or communications laws.

Best Regards, 

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: Exchange Discussions

not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company
property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


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 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
email
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 Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading
someones
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to
do
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2003-06-23 Thread Midgley, Ian
Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
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I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


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 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an 
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do
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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Slinger, Gary
The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an 
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
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2003-06-23 Thread Midgley, Ian
I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
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do
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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Slinger, Gary
Florida if you want a US location; England if you prefer the other side of
the pond - DEPENDING on the chain-of-command structure for the given
company.  And a few other things.  It depends. 


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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:55
To: Exchange Discussions

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
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 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Martin Blackstone
First off, anyone who lets a manager dictate reading emails is a fool. This
type of stuff has to come from the top down.
As an example here, any email monitoring has to be approved by the CEO, who
in turn passes it on to HR, then to me. At that point I do the configuration
and then let whoever needs it, at it. 

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
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 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
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do
 this sort of thing.

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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Slinger, Gary
Which happens to be broadly similar to our policy here; coincidentally, I'm
rewriting the operating procedure for this today anyway, and we're going to
require the signoff of a local HR representative, and a line manager. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:00
To: Exchange Discussions

First off, anyone who lets a manager dictate reading emails is a fool. This
type of stuff has to come from the top down.
As an example here, any email monitoring has to be approved by the CEO, who
in turn passes it on to HR, then to me. At that point I do the configuration
and then let whoever needs it, at it. 

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


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Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
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 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Midgley, Ian
Which is exactly where a defined policy comes into play. To be able to read
someone else's email the company must have an agreed policy in place whether
or not the end user knows about it. That's the only way you can tell whether
you are being asked to do something which you should do without contravening
your terms of employment.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Florida if you want a US location; England if you prefer the other side of
the pond - DEPENDING on the chain-of-command structure for the given
company.  And a few other things.  It depends. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:55
To: Exchange Discussions

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an 
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Henderson Richard
yawn

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 17:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Which is exactly where a defined policy comes into play. To be able to read
someone else's email the company must have an agreed policy in place whether
or not the end user knows about it. That's the only way you can tell whether
you are being asked to do something which you should do without contravening
your terms of employment.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Florida if you want a US location; England if you prefer the other side of
the pond - DEPENDING on the chain-of-command structure for the given
company.  And a few other things.  It depends. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:55
To: Exchange Discussions

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Midgley, Ian
LOL. I nearly became a lawyer in my younger days and I just miss it. Now
let's see - how's that restore coming along?

-Original Message-
From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 16:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


yawn

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 17:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Which is exactly where a defined policy comes into play. To be able to read
someone else's email the company must have an agreed policy in place whether
or not the end user knows about it. That's the only way you can tell whether
you are being asked to do something which you should do without contravening
your terms of employment.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Florida if you want a US location; England if you prefer the other side of
the pond - DEPENDING on the chain-of-command structure for the given
company.  And a few other things.  It depends. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:55
To: Exchange Discussions

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an 
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Midgley, Ian
I've just spent the last couple of months doing this so I guess it's all
still buzzing round. Apologies. We also elected for minimum HR and line
manager approval. 

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Which happens to be broadly similar to our policy here; coincidentally, I'm
rewriting the operating procedure for this today anyway, and we're going to
require the signoff of a local HR representative, and a line manager. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:00
To: Exchange Discussions

First off, anyone who lets a manager dictate reading emails is a fool. This
type of stuff has to come from the top down. As an example here, any email
monitoring has to be approved by the CEO, who in turn passes it on to HR,
then to me. At that point I do the configuration and then let whoever needs
it, at it. 

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an 
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: Message 451 4.4.2 Bad connection (connection reset)

2003-06-23 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Are you tied into any of the RBL's, in addition to using the Vamsoft Open
Relay Filter?  If so, that's probably why, as hanafos.com is on the FiveTen
RBL.  Can you add the domain name to the white-list, instead of the IP addy?


By the entire IP range...not to be checked, what range are you talking
about?  This is what I get from NSlookup:

hanafos.com MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mhr.hanafos.com
hanafos.com MX preference = 50, mail exchanger = mhr01.hanafos.com
hanafos.com MX preference = 50, mail exchanger = mhr02.hanafos.com
hanafos.com MX preference = 50, mail exchanger = mhr03.hanafos.com
mhr01.hanafos.com   internet address = 211.202.13.156
mhr02.hanafos.com   internet address = 211.202.13.157
mhr03.hanafos.com   internet address = 211.202.13.158

-Original Message-
From: Freddie Soerensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Hostmaster
Subject: Message 451 4.4.2 Bad connection (connection reset)


Hi list

We have a problem which we have been struggling with for a couple of weeks
now, hope somebody here can help.

We have E2k SP3 on Win2k SP3 with all patches.

We can send email to everywhere in the world and we can receive from
everywhere in the world, except from the domain hanafos.com (211.202.13.0 -
211.202.13.255). Whenever they try to send us an email they get following
message :

 ==
FIRST : Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:11:56 KST +0900
LAST  : Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:32:02 KST +0900
RETRY COUNT : 3
LOOP COUNT : 0
REMOTE SERVER RESPONSE : 451 4.4.2 Bad connection (connection reset)
== 

This IP range is not blocked in the Connection control of the virtual SMTP
server and we are not performing reverse DNS lookup on incoming connections.

We are using Vamsoft Open Relay Filter and we have added the entire IP Range
to the IP ranges not to be checked.

Funny thing is that f.ex mo02.hanafos.com (211.202.13.144) does not have
reverse DNS so maybe this could still be the problem ? Does anybody know how
to find out or how to solve this issue. It is really driving us crazy

Thanks in advance
Freddie
 
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Conares Metal Supply Limited
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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Slinger, Gary
Yawn?  Maybe to you, but anytime you want to come out and play with the big
boys, pal, this is exactly the kind of issue that has to be addressed.  Hit
the delete key, or sod off, I don't much care which - this is on topic, and
being discussed in a perfectly reasonable manner.

You're with an outsourcing company.  I'll assume you don't take that pissant
attitude to your client sites.

-Original Message-
From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:11
To: Exchange Discussions

yawn

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 17:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Which is exactly where a defined policy comes into play. To be able to read
someone else's email the company must have an agreed policy in place whether
or not the end user knows about it. That's the only way you can tell whether
you are being asked to do something which you should do without contravening
your terms of employment.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Florida if you want a US location; England if you prefer the other side of
the pond - DEPENDING on the chain-of-command structure for the given
company.  And a few other things.  It depends. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:55
To: Exchange Discussions

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
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 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Slinger, Gary
Mmm.  One of the potentials that I worked us around was avoiding a local
manager and a local HR person working together to bypass the procedure.
Excessively paranoid, perhaps, but hey - that's what I'm paid for. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:19
To: Exchange Discussions

I've just spent the last couple of months doing this so I guess it's all
still buzzing round. Apologies. We also elected for minimum HR and line
manager approval. 

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Which happens to be broadly similar to our policy here; coincidentally, I'm
rewriting the operating procedure for this today anyway, and we're going to
require the signoff of a local HR representative, and a line manager. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:00
To: Exchange Discussions

First off, anyone who lets a manager dictate reading emails is a fool. This
type of stuff has to come from the top down. As an example here, any email
monitoring has to be approved by the CEO, who in turn passes it on to HR,
then to me. At that point I do the configuration and then let whoever needs
it, at it. 

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an 
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Henderson Richard
Nice one,  a man with a sense of humour...

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 17:22
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Yawn?  Maybe to you, but anytime you want to come out and play with the big
boys, pal, this is exactly the kind of issue that has to be addressed.  Hit
the delete key, or sod off, I don't much care which - this is on topic, and
being discussed in a perfectly reasonable manner.

You're with an outsourcing company.  I'll assume you don't take that pissant
attitude to your client sites.

-Original Message-
From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:11
To: Exchange Discussions

yawn

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 17:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Which is exactly where a defined policy comes into play. To be able to read
someone else's email the company must have an agreed policy in place whether
or not the end user knows about it. That's the only way you can tell whether
you are being asked to do something which you should do without contravening
your terms of employment.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Florida if you want a US location; England if you prefer the other side of
the pond - DEPENDING on the chain-of-command structure for the given
company.  And a few other things.  It depends. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:55
To: Exchange Discussions

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an 
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: Weird PF issue

2003-06-23 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
I'm assuming this is an issue, only if the person has the NAV Corporate
Edition client email plug-in for Outlook installed.  We have this version
of the client installed on our desktops, but without the Outlook plugin and
have experienced zero problems to date.

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 6:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Weird PF issue


Does she have read only permissions to the items she cannot open? Are you
Running Norton Corp Edition pre-v8.x?

Try this one out if so..

http://tinyurl.com/f1dp

-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 7:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

One of our Exchange 2000 SP3 uses can't open some items in a public folder.
When she double-clicks on the message, she gets Access Denied error
pop-up. Yet she can open other items in that same public folder.

When I give myself rights to her mailbox and create a profile on my machine
to access her mailbox, I don't encounter any problems like that.

We even logged on with her Windows account on a PC here and configured her
Outlook profile and still could not reproduce the bad behavior.

It efinitely seems to be something wrong on her PC, but what could it be?
(we already did /cleanviews on her PC - didn't help)

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RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

2003-06-23 Thread Siegfried Weber
 The question I have is what's the status of this hotfix with 
 regards to E2k3? Is there an expectation that this 
 functionality will be included in the RTM release?

Exactly my thoughts. I'm going to run some tests with RC1 to see if it
is included there and post back here.

Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /

Development Lead,

CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration Application
Experts
http://www.cdolive.com
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:03 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
 
 
 I'd wager that Siegfried is fully aware of the differences, 
 probably more so than most on the list.
 
 The question I have is what's the status of this hotfix with 
 regards to E2k3? Is there an expectation that this 
 functionality will be included in the RTM release?
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:40 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
  
  
  I know about the hotfix and am not crazy about installing 
 hotfixes, so 
  we're waiting at this point.  Nothing accesses the M: drive 
 on our E2K 
  servers, it's excluded from vscan.  We don't do single 
 folder backups 
  and our backups run after midnight.  OL2002 works sometimes 
 here, too. 
  Nothing is constant.  I know rules fire on notes, but 
 everything from 
  the internet comes into PF as posts.  Some of our rules just stop 
  working at times, though, on notes with nothing in the logs 
 and with 
  logging turned up to max.  If you've never had a lot of PFs 
 in 5.5 and 
  now you've gone to E2K, you can't really understand the differences.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 6:45 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
  
  
  As for being posts instead of notes, see Andy's reply and
  call Microsoft
  for a free of charge fix.
  
  I've never used rules much on PF's hence I cannot comment on
  that. I do
  understand that a rule doesn't fire if it is a post item 
 but it should
  fire on a note item. I'd be interested to hear if you have any
  additional info what's going on. Especially if the store is 
  hit by other
  applications like a MAPI based backup (single folder backup thingy
  maybe?) or an antivirus scanner (either MAPI or ESE/VSAPI based)?
  
  Also, you do know that you should stay away from the M: 
 Drive, don't 
  you? The symptoms (like the permissions issue - I just tested with 
  Outlook 2002 SP2 and it works here) you describe point me into the 
  direction that you are running some piece of software which 
 accesses 
  the
  M: Drive (like a file based backup or AV scanner) and 
 causes some of 
  your grief.
  
  Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /
  
  Development Lead,
  
  CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration Application 
  Experts http://www.cdolive.com
   
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 12:06 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
   
   
   That's too bad.  We have thousands of PFs and have always 
 encouraged 
   people to opt for a PF rather than a mailbox anytime they need 
   somewhere to receive email to be viewed by people who 
 already had a 
   mailbox.  In 5.5, PFs worked pretty much flawlessly.  In 2000, 
   they're terrible.  The rules just stop working 
 intermittently.  The 
   PFs that receive mostly outside mail are now posts, so the rules 
   don't work at all on those anymore.  The user role 
 permissions are 
   finally cleaned up so that Exchange 2000 can interpret them.  We 
   only have replicas on one of our 2000 servers now since 
 replication
   caused too much latency.  Sometimes, even though we have 
   owner permissions on all of the PFs, if we use Outlook 2002 
   to view the properties, we're told we don't have permission, 
   but if we view them in OL2000, we can make whatever changes 
   an owner should be able to make.  Searching for something in 
   PFs used to be a breeze when they were on our 5.5 servers, 
   now, you may or may not find what you're looking for even 
   though you know it's in there.
   
   We're getting to the point that it would be easier to create 
   mailboxes for the PFs that we constantly get called on, the ones 
   with rules that stop working, mostly, and that's such a waste to 
   have to create a mailbox when all you really need is a PF.  I'd 
   guess we got maybe 10 PF calls in the 5 years we've been running 
   Exchange for actual problems with the server, not the usual, user 
   doesn't understand the permissions calls, and now that 
 we've moved 
   our PFs to E2K, 

RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Midgley, Ian
Ha. Now I can see where you got it depends from! 

The assumption we accepted was that the line manager should know what her
subordinates were doing and the HR person would ensure that it was business
related. The initial request was from business manager to HR and needed
sanction was required from senior person with work delegated to junior HR.
If it was of a personnal nature as opposed to business related then senior
HRs would be investigating with higher level managers approval. Exchange
admin just there to ensure process was followed before providing access in
controlled and auditable manner. If collusion was suspected I guess there
would be sufficient evidence both electronic and paper to back track. Didn't
write that in though. I'll put a little note aside for next time. 

Richard - wake up. It's time to go home.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 16:23
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Mmm.  One of the potentials that I worked us around was avoiding a local
manager and a local HR person working together to bypass the procedure.
Excessively paranoid, perhaps, but hey - that's what I'm paid for. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:19
To: Exchange Discussions

I've just spent the last couple of months doing this so I guess it's all
still buzzing round. Apologies. We also elected for minimum HR and line
manager approval. 

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Which happens to be broadly similar to our policy here; coincidentally, I'm
rewriting the operating procedure for this today anyway, and we're going to
require the signoff of a local HR representative, and a line manager. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:00
To: Exchange Discussions

First off, anyone who lets a manager dictate reading emails is a fool. This
type of stuff has to come from the top down. As an example here, any email
monitoring has to be approved by the CEO, who in turn passes it on to HR,
then to me. At that point I do the configuration and then let whoever needs
it, at it. 

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


 I have been tasked with reviewing the content of employee email. What
 is
the
 best method?

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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread John Matteson
We are so happy that you've recovered from your bout of insanity.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.




-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:16 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Monitor Email content
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


LOL. I nearly became a lawyer in my younger days and I just miss it. Now
let's see - how's that restore coming along?

-Original Message-
From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 16:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


yawn

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 17:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Which is exactly where a defined policy comes into play. To be able to
read someone else's email the company must have an agreed policy in
place whether or not the end user knows about it. That's the only way
you can tell whether you are being asked to do something which you
should do without contravening your terms of employment.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Florida if you want a US location; England if you prefer the other side
of the pond - DEPENDING on the chain-of-command structure for the given
company.  And a few other things.  It depends. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:55
To: Exchange Discussions

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be
legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read
them is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess
of it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke
in the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can
read all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails
at the same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for
emotional trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read
them is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company
property. A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not
required to read employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable

 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


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the
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RE: IIS log Files with wrong date??

2003-06-23 Thread Dflorea
I'm assuming we were all just kidding...

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IIS log Files with wrong date??


Assuming you're not kidding, UTC is the same as GMT is the same as Zulu
Time.  The UK is currently at GMT/UTC+1. 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 6:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

I thought they were in Universal Coordinated Time.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IIS log Files with wrong date??


UTC's French.  GMT'll do g 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 17:45
To: Exchange Discussions

I thought they were in UTC.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IIS log Files with wrong date??


IIS Log times are in GMT 

-Original Message-
From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: IIS log Files with wrong date??

W2K Sp3, E2K Sp3 -- only one exchange server.

I setup OWA and im trying to trouble shoot a problem.  Enabled IIS
logging
and the time in the logs do not match the actual time.  Example I log
into
OWA at 14:00 and my logs say that I did at 18:00.  Any ideas? My system
time
is correct, My DC time is correct, the computer that im logging into OWA
with time is correct.  Looked on technet for wrong log time with IIS and
haven't found anything useful yet.  I'm sure its some newbie thing ive
over
looked. Thanks for any input

Matt

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RE: Help with OWA 5.5 after changing firewalls....

2003-06-23 Thread Chyka Robert
Tony,

that did it...i must have missed that article, i had the one for 2000.thanks for 
the help!

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Help with OWA 5.5 after changing firewalls


Try this link for starters.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B326856


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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:04:31 -0400

Hello everone,

finally got the boss at a side job to scrap MS Proxy 2.0 and put a PIX 515 
in.  Exchange 5.5 is running on the same box as Proxy 2.0.  i removed Proxy 
2.0 and now OWA 5.5 does not work thru my PIX.  i have a NAT translation 
configured for our mail server and have tcp ports 25 and 80 open on the pix 
for OWA.  when i go to the page, i get You are not authorized to view this 
page  HPPT 403 Forbidden error.  i have Log on Locally rights on this 
machine and was wondering what else i should check.  it was working 
perfectly before until i changed our Proxy out for a real firewall.  Server 
is NT 4.0 (for now) SP 6a IIS 4.0.

any help is appreciated.


Bob C.

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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Roger Seielstad
That's a situation which needs to be governed by corproate policies, not the
law.

If either HR or a person's manager asks for access to a mailbox, they are
granted that access.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
 Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she 
 dating a bloke in
 the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if 
 she can read
 all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his 
 emails at the
 same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me 
 for emotional
 trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 
 
 I just don't want to go there. 
 
 The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed 
 to read them
 is a different thing altogether.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Monitor Email content
 
 
 not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is 
 company property.
 A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not 
 required to read
 employee email . . .
 
 
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 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
  Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an 
  email policy defined and that all your companies employees 
 know what 
  it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible 
 for invading 
  someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have 
 reasonable 
  grounds to
 do
  this sort of thing.
 
  -Original Message-
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  Subject: Monitor Email content
 
 
  I have been tasked with reviewing the content of employee 
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  is
 the
  best method?
 
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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Slinger, Gary
Um, whereas I'm considering studying law now just for the hell of it...  


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We are so happy that you've recovered from your bout of insanity.

John Matteson
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(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.




-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:16 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion
List
Conversation: Monitor Email content
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


LOL. I nearly became a lawyer in my younger days and I just miss it. Now
let's see - how's that restore coming along?

-Original Message-
From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 16:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


yawn

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 17:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Which is exactly where a defined policy comes into play. To be able to
read someone else's email the company must have an agreed policy in
place whether or not the end user knows about it. That's the only way
you can tell whether you are being asked to do something which you
should do without contravening your terms of employment.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Florida if you want a US location; England if you prefer the other side
of the pond - DEPENDING on the chain-of-command structure for the given
company.  And a few other things.  It depends. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:55
To: Exchange Discussions

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be
legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read
them is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess
of it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke
in the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can
read all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails
at the same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for
emotional trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read
them is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company
property. A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not
required to read employee email . . .


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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable

 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
 From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


 I have been tasked with reviewing the content of employee email. What
 is
the
 best method?

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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Ed Crowley
I agree, and then when an authorized spy (that is, with a signed letter from
the CEO) wants to read someone's mailbox, restore a copy from a backup onto
your recovery server, set up Outlook on a machine in a locked room, and let
the spy have access to it there.

Resist the urge to do the spying yourself; to a very large extent it's
incompatible with one's role as an administrator.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


That's why you want to make sure your company has a policy in place and that
all of your staff is aware of this. You also want to get this in writing
from HR and have THEM do the monitoring. You simply set it up for them, and
let them have at it. 

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

Sure does but I'd rather have someone elses butt on the line than mine,
especially if 'm doing it for them anyway. I'm intrigued - where is phone
tapping legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 12:39
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable grounds to do this
sort of thing.

Depends on jurisdiction. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 07:10
To: Exchange Discussions

Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an email
policy defined and that all your companies employees know what it is.
Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading someones
privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable grounds to do
this sort of thing.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Monitor Email content


I have been tasked with reviewing the content of employee email. What is the
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RE: Help with OWA 5.5 after changing firewalls....

2003-06-23 Thread Tony Hlabse
No problem always trying to help others as they have helped me on this list.

From: Chyka Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Help with OWA 5.5 after changing firewalls
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:31:11 -0400
Tony,

that did it...i must have missed that article, i had the one for 
2000.thanks for the help!

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Help with OWA 5.5 after changing firewalls
Try this link for starters.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B326856

From: Chyka Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help with OWA 5.5 after changing firewalls
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:04:31 -0400
Hello everone,

finally got the boss at a side job to scrap MS Proxy 2.0 and put a PIX 515
in.  Exchange 5.5 is running on the same box as Proxy 2.0.  i removed Proxy
2.0 and now OWA 5.5 does not work thru my PIX.  i have a NAT translation
configured for our mail server and have tcp ports 25 and 80 open on the pix
for OWA.  when i go to the page, i get You are not authorized to view this
page  HPPT 403 Forbidden error.  i have Log on Locally rights on this
machine and was wondering what else i should check.  it was working
perfectly before until i changed our Proxy out for a real firewall.  Server
is NT 4.0 (for now) SP 6a IIS 4.0.
any help is appreciated.

Bob C.

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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Ed Crowley
Are you an attorney?  You might want to be careful dispensing legal advice
if you are not.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris H
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an 
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Martin Blackstone
I'm not an attorney, but I play one on TV 

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

Are you an attorney?  You might want to be careful dispensing legal advice
if you are not.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
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Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an 
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Ed Crowley
You play one in your own mind.

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:09 AM
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I'm not an attorney, but I play one on TV 

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

Are you an attorney?  You might want to be careful dispensing legal advice
if you are not.

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Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


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Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
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 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Ed Crowley
I've considered becoming a lawyer because I could then criticize lawyers
with standing.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slinger, Gary
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:55 AM
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Um, whereas I'm considering studying law now just for the hell of it...  


-Original Message-
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We are so happy that you've recovered from your bout of insanity.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.




-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:16 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion
List
Conversation: Monitor Email content
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


LOL. I nearly became a lawyer in my younger days and I just miss it. Now
let's see - how's that restore coming along?

-Original Message-
From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 16:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


yawn

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 17:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Which is exactly where a defined policy comes into play. To be able to read
someone else's email the company must have an agreed policy in place whether
or not the end user knows about it. That's the only way you can tell whether
you are being asked to do something which you should do without contravening
your terms of employment.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


Florida if you want a US location; England if you prefer the other side of
the pond - DEPENDING on the chain-of-command structure for the given
company.  And a few other things.  It depends. 


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:55
To: Exchange Discussions

I'm not confusing my opinion with established law. Give me an example of
anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined below would be legal?

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

Don't confuse your opinion with established law.  This is a whole mess of
it depends.


-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
To: Exchange Discussions

Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin) coz she dating a bloke in
the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and asks if she can read
all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I read his emails at the
same time? What's my defence when he files a claim against me for emotional
trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 

I just don't want to go there. 

The emails might be the companies property but who is allowed to read them
is a different thing altogether.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an 
 email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable

 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
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 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: [Exchange2000] Possible hotfix for SMTP mail to public folders as IPM.Note not IPM.Post

2003-06-23 Thread Dryden, Karen
Thank you for the info.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [Exchange2000] Possible hotfix for SMTP mail to public
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I just tested this fix, and it didn't appear to work at first when using
the instructions described in the article, but after a short call with
PSS I got it working.  Once you've applied the fix, instead of setting
the Incoming value to 0, you have to create a value called Incoming
Defaults To IPM.Note and set it to 1 and then restart the store.

- Dave

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Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 4:13 AM
Subject: RE: [Exchange2000] Possible hotfix for SMTP mail to public
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 Can someone else please try this so that we don't have to be the first

 one?  Just kidding.

 Has anyone tried this yet?

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 Subject: [Exchange2000] Possible hotfix for SMTP mail to public 
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 Just came across KB article 817809 dated May 24 which sounds like MS 
 may have listened to our complaints about the change at E2K on the 
 format that SMTP mail is delivered to a Public Folder.  I do not 
 recall seeing this hotfix mentioned on this list so I thought I'd post

 a note about it. We
 have many 5.5 Public Folders that receive SMTP mail and are not
looking
 forward to the impacts of the change in E2K.

 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B817809
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B817809

 Per the article (update requires Exchange 2000 SP3):   After you
install
 this update, incoming messages to public folders have their message 
 class cached to IPM.Note instead of IPM.Post. You can configure this 
 new setting by creating the Incoming registry value in the following 
 registry subkey:

 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\MSExchan
 ge
 IS\
 ServerName\Public-GUID
   Value name: Incoming
   Value type: DWORD
   Value data: 0 defaults to IPM.Note. A DWORD value of 0 (zero) is 
 default (false).

   A non-zero value (true) configures the public folder to cache 
 incoming messages as IPM.Post .

 I'm just not clear on what they mean by the term cache.

 I just saw the article and have not obtained the hotfix yet to test 
 it. Our Exchange 2000 is still only in our lab.  If any of you try it 
 out first, let us know the results.

   Jane

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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Avi Smith-Rapaport
Are you a good one at least?



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Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


You play one in your own mind.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


I'm not an attorney, but I play one on TV 

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

Are you an attorney?  You might want to be careful dispensing legal advice
if you are not.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris H
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company property.
A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
employee email . . .


- Original Message - 
From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
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 it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading 
 someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have reasonable 
 grounds to
do
 this sort of thing.

 -Original Message-
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 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Monitor Email content


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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Roger Seielstad
Only if he stays awake long enough to try the case.

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Avi Smith-Rapaport [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
 Are you a good one at least?
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:53 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
 You play one in your own mind.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Martin Blackstone
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:09 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
 I'm not an attorney, but I play one on TV 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:05 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 Are you an attorney?  You might want to be careful dispensing 
 legal advice
 if you are not.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris H
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Monitor Email content
 
 
 not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is 
 company property.
 A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not 
 required to read
 employee email . . .
 
 
 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
  Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
  email policy defined and that all your companies employees 
 know what 
  it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible 
 for invading 
  someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have 
 reasonable 
  grounds to
 do
  this sort of thing.
 
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Monitor Email content
 
 
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  is
 the
  best method?
 
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Re: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Andy David
Of course you do. You live in LA after all.

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Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 I'm not an attorney, but I play one on TV

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:05 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

 Are you an attorney?  You might want to be careful dispensing legal advice
 if you are not.

 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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 not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company
property.
 A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to read
 employee email . . .


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  Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an
  email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what
  it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for invading
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  grounds to
 do
  this sort of thing.
 
  -Original Message-
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  Subject: Monitor Email content
 
 
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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Ben Schorr
You'd be best off consulting an attorney for your jurisdiction before you go
with that idea.  In some jurisdictions that approach could get you in a lot
of trouble.  Trust me (see sig block).

Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
 

 -Original Message-
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 Subject: Re: Monitor Email content
 
 not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is 
 company property.
 A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not 
 required to read employee email . . .
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
  Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you 
 have an email
  policy defined and that all your companies employees know 
 what it is.
  Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for 
 invading someones
  privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have 
 reasonable grounds to
 do
  this sort of thing.
 
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RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

2003-06-23 Thread Siegfried Weber
Follow up: doesn't look like it included in Exchange 2003 RC1. Tried it
and it is still IPM.Post...
 

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 From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:34 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
 
 
  The question I have is what's the status of this hotfix with
  regards to E2k3? Is there an expectation that this 
  functionality will be included in the RTM release?
 
 Exactly my thoughts. I'm going to run some tests with RC1 to 
 see if it is included there and post back here.
 
 Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /
 
 Development Lead,
 
 CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration 
 Application Experts http://www.cdolive.com
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:03 PM
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  Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
  
  
  I'd wager that Siegfried is fully aware of the differences,
  probably more so than most on the list.
  
  The question I have is what's the status of this hotfix with
  regards to E2k3? Is there an expectation that this 
  functionality will be included in the RTM release?
  
  --
  Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
  Sr. Systems Administrator
  Inovis Inc.
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:40 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
   
   
   I know about the hotfix and am not crazy about installing
  hotfixes, so
   we're waiting at this point.  Nothing accesses the M: drive
  on our E2K
   servers, it's excluded from vscan.  We don't do single
  folder backups
   and our backups run after midnight.  OL2002 works sometimes
  here, too.
   Nothing is constant.  I know rules fire on notes, but
  everything from
   the internet comes into PF as posts.  Some of our rules just stop
   working at times, though, on notes with nothing in the logs 
  and with
   logging turned up to max.  If you've never had a lot of PFs
  in 5.5 and
   now you've gone to E2K, you can't really understand the 
 differences.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 6:45 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
   
   
   As for being posts instead of notes, see Andy's reply and call 
   Microsoft for a free of charge fix.
   
   I've never used rules much on PF's hence I cannot comment 
 on that. I 
   do understand that a rule doesn't fire if it is a post item
  but it should
   fire on a note item. I'd be interested to hear if you have any 
   additional info what's going on. Especially if the store 
 is hit by 
   other applications like a MAPI based backup (single folder backup 
   thingy
   maybe?) or an antivirus scanner (either MAPI or ESE/VSAPI based)?
   
   Also, you do know that you should stay away from the M:
  Drive, don't
   you? The symptoms (like the permissions issue - I just tested with
   Outlook 2002 SP2 and it works here) you describe point me 
 into the 
   direction that you are running some piece of software which 
  accesses
   the
   M: Drive (like a file based backup or AV scanner) and
  causes some of
   your grief.
   
   Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /
   
   Development Lead,
   
   CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration 
 Application
   Experts http://www.cdolive.com

   
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From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 12:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note


That's too bad.  We have thousands of PFs and have always
  encouraged
people to opt for a PF rather than a mailbox anytime they need
somewhere to receive email to be viewed by people who 
  already had a
mailbox.  In 5.5, PFs worked pretty much flawlessly.  In 2000,
they're terrible.  The rules just stop working 
  intermittently.  The
PFs that receive mostly outside mail are now posts, so the rules
don't work at all on those anymore.  The user role 
  permissions are
finally cleaned up so that Exchange 2000 can interpret them.  We
only have replicas on one of our 2000 servers now since 
  replication
caused too much latency.  Sometimes, even though we have
owner permissions on all of the PFs, if we use Outlook 2002 
to view the properties, we're told we don't have permission, 
but if we view them in OL2000, we can make whatever changes 
an owner should be able to make.  Searching for something in 
PFs used to be a breeze when they were on our 5.5 servers, 
now, you may or may not find what you're looking for even 
though you know it's in there.

We're getting to the point that it would be easier to create
mailboxes for the PFs that we constantly get 

PFINFO question

2003-06-23 Thread Hatley, Ken
Does anyone know exactly what permissions are needed to run PFINFO without logging any 
errors.  I am running it on a international org with multiple sites...I am SA admin on 
all of the sites and configs that contain PF servers but I am still getting thousands 
of errors.

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RE: PFINFO question

2003-06-23 Thread knighTslayer
Have you seen this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=328880

What errors exactly are you getting?

k



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Lotus Group members

2003-06-23 Thread Wade Robinson
Are there any dirsync tools available to help export Lotus Notes groups
with members into AD?
Thanks.


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RE: PFINFO question

2003-06-23 Thread Hatley, Ken
Errors are logged in the PFINFO.log preceded by getting folder properties: Error 
E_FAIL - Unknown Failure... Yes I saw that article, but I don't think that is my 
problem...I did see the one on Address book views, and I did have Outlook Address Book 
in the profile.  I am rerunning it right now to see if that is my problem.  I know it 
recommends running in each Site but that would be a major pain since there I have so 
many Sites.  Does anyone know what the minimum is for permissions to run PFINFO 
though.  It says in the readme that you must be Service Account Admin, but it does not 
specify where they need to be set.  I will have trouble getting access to the Org if I 
need that.

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Have you seen this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=328880

What errors exactly are you getting?

k



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 20:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: PFINFO question


Does anyone know exactly what permissions are needed to run PFINFO
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contain PF servers but I am still getting thousands of errors.

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Re: Lotus Group members

2003-06-23 Thread Tony Hlabse
Look on MS's site. There are some third party ones there If I remember right 
besides what MS offers

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:09:42 -0400
Are there any dirsync tools available to help export Lotus Notes groups
with members into AD?
Thanks.
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RE: PFINFO question

2003-06-23 Thread knighTslayer
Is this Org completley 5.5?

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Sent: 23 June 2003 21:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


Errors are logged in the PFINFO.log preceded by getting folder
properties: Error E_FAIL - Unknown Failure... Yes I saw that article,
but I don't think that is my problem...I did see the one on Address book
views, and I did have Outlook Address Book in the profile.  I am
rerunning it right now to see if that is my problem.  I know it
recommends running in each Site but that would be a major pain since
there I have so many Sites.  Does anyone know what the minimum is for
permissions to run PFINFO though.  It says in the readme that you must
be Service Account Admin, but it does not specify where they need to be
set.  I will have trouble getting access to the Org if I need that.

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Have you seen this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=328880

What errors exactly are you getting?

k



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 20:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: PFINFO question


Does anyone know exactly what permissions are needed to run PFINFO
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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread Ed Crowley
I once flew on the same plane as Michael Tucker.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:38 PM
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Of course you do. You live in LA after all.

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Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


 I'm not an attorney, but I play one on TV

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:05 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content

 Are you an attorney?  You might want to be careful dispensing legal 
 advice if you are not.

 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Monitor Email content


 not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company
property.
 A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to 
 read employee email . . .


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 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content


  Before you start looking at your users mail ensure that you have an 
  email policy defined and that all your companies employees know what 
  it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held responsible for 
  invading someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you have to have 
  reasonable grounds to
 do
  this sort of thing.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Terry Hines [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Monitor Email content
 
 
  I have been tasked with reviewing the content of employee email. 
  What is
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Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Scribner
Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating -- 

When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It seems that the 
recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the default policy, win2k domain, 
exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the recipient update service to another domain 
controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

2003-06-23 Thread Ed Crowley
Did you dance around the hat chanting incantations first?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Siegfried Weber
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note


Follow up: doesn't look like it included in Exchange 2003 RC1. Tried it and
it is still IPM.Post...
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:34 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
 
 
  The question I have is what's the status of this hotfix with regards 
  to E2k3? Is there an expectation that this functionality will be 
  included in the RTM release?
 
 Exactly my thoughts. I'm going to run some tests with RC1 to
 see if it is included there and post back here.
 
 Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /
 
 Development Lead,
 
 CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration
 Application Experts http://www.cdolive.com
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:03 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
  
  
  I'd wager that Siegfried is fully aware of the differences, probably 
  more so than most on the list.
  
  The question I have is what's the status of this hotfix with regards 
  to E2k3? Is there an expectation that this functionality will be 
  included in the RTM release?
  
  --
  Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
  Sr. Systems Administrator
  Inovis Inc.
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:40 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
   
   
   I know about the hotfix and am not crazy about installing
  hotfixes, so
   we're waiting at this point.  Nothing accesses the M: drive
  on our E2K
   servers, it's excluded from vscan.  We don't do single
  folder backups
   and our backups run after midnight.  OL2002 works sometimes
  here, too.
   Nothing is constant.  I know rules fire on notes, but
  everything from
   the internet comes into PF as posts.  Some of our rules just stop 
   working at times, though, on notes with nothing in the logs
  and with
   logging turned up to max.  If you've never had a lot of PFs
  in 5.5 and
   now you've gone to E2K, you can't really understand the
 differences.
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 6:45 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
   
   
   As for being posts instead of notes, see Andy's reply and call
   Microsoft for a free of charge fix.
   
   I've never used rules much on PF's hence I cannot comment
 on that. I
   do understand that a rule doesn't fire if it is a post item
  but it should
   fire on a note item. I'd be interested to hear if you have any
   additional info what's going on. Especially if the store 
 is hit by
   other applications like a MAPI based backup (single folder backup
   thingy
   maybe?) or an antivirus scanner (either MAPI or ESE/VSAPI based)?
   
   Also, you do know that you should stay away from the M:
  Drive, don't
   you? The symptoms (like the permissions issue - I just tested with 
   Outlook 2002 SP2 and it works here) you describe point me
 into the
   direction that you are running some piece of software which
  accesses
   the
   M: Drive (like a file based backup or AV scanner) and
  causes some of
   your grief.
   
   Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /
   
   Development Lead,
   
   CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration
 Application
   Experts http://www.cdolive.com

   
-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 12:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note


That's too bad.  We have thousands of PFs and have always
  encouraged
people to opt for a PF rather than a mailbox anytime they need 
somewhere to receive email to be viewed by people who
  already had a
mailbox.  In 5.5, PFs worked pretty much flawlessly.  In 2000, 
they're terrible.  The rules just stop working
  intermittently.  The
PFs that receive mostly outside mail are now posts, so the rules 
don't work at all on those anymore.  The user role
  permissions are
finally cleaned up so that Exchange 2000 can interpret them.  We 
only have replicas on one of our 2000 servers now since
  replication
caused too much latency.  Sometimes, even though we have owner 
permissions on all of the PFs, if we use Outlook 2002 to view 
the properties, we're told we don't have permission, but if we 
view them in OL2000, we can 

RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Ed Crowley
Is there anything in the event log?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Scribner
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating -- 

When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It seems
that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the default
policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the recipient
update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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RE: PFINFO question

2003-06-23 Thread Hatley, Ken
Yes it is

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Is this Org completley 5.5?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 21:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


Errors are logged in the PFINFO.log preceded by getting folder
properties: Error E_FAIL - Unknown Failure... Yes I saw that article,
but I don't think that is my problem...I did see the one on Address book
views, and I did have Outlook Address Book in the profile.  I am
rerunning it right now to see if that is my problem.  I know it
recommends running in each Site but that would be a major pain since
there I have so many Sites.  Does anyone know what the minimum is for
permissions to run PFINFO though.  It says in the readme that you must
be Service Account Admin, but it does not specify where they need to be
set.  I will have trouble getting access to the Org if I need that.

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Have you seen this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=328880

What errors exactly are you getting?

k



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 20:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: PFINFO question


Does anyone know exactly what permissions are needed to run PFINFO
without logging any errors.  I am running it on a international org with
multiple sites...I am SA admin on all of the sites and configs that
contain PF servers but I am still getting thousands of errors.

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RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

2003-06-23 Thread Siegfried Weber
I sacrificed a chicken. Still no go...

 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
 
 
 Did you dance around the hat chanting incantations first?
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Siegfried Weber
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:56 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
 
 
 Follow up: doesn't look like it included in Exchange 2003 
 RC1. Tried it and it is still IPM.Post...
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:34 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
  
  
   The question I have is what's the status of this hotfix 
 with regards
   to E2k3? Is there an expectation that this functionality will be 
   included in the RTM release?
  
  Exactly my thoughts. I'm going to run some tests with RC1 
 to see if it 
  is included there and post back here.
  
  Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /
  
  Development Lead,
  
  CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration Application 
  Experts http://www.cdolive.com
   
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:03 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
   
   
   I'd wager that Siegfried is fully aware of the 
 differences, probably
   more so than most on the list.
   
   The question I have is what's the status of this hotfix 
 with regards
   to E2k3? Is there an expectation that this functionality will be 
   included in the RTM release?
   
   --
   Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
   Sr. Systems Administrator
   Inovis Inc.
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note


I know about the hotfix and am not crazy about installing
   hotfixes, so
we're waiting at this point.  Nothing accesses the M: drive
   on our E2K
servers, it's excluded from vscan.  We don't do single
   folder backups
and our backups run after midnight.  OL2002 works sometimes
   here, too.
Nothing is constant.  I know rules fire on notes, but
   everything from
the internet comes into PF as posts.  Some of our rules 
 just stop
working at times, though, on notes with nothing in the logs
   and with
logging turned up to max.  If you've never had a lot of PFs
   in 5.5 and
now you've gone to E2K, you can't really understand the
  differences.

-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 6:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note


As for being posts instead of notes, see Andy's reply and call 
Microsoft for a free of charge fix.

I've never used rules much on PF's hence I cannot comment
  on that. I
do understand that a rule doesn't fire if it is a post item
   but it should
fire on a note item. I'd be interested to hear if you have any 
additional info what's going on. Especially if the store
  is hit by
other applications like a MAPI based backup (single 
 folder backup 
thingy
maybe?) or an antivirus scanner (either MAPI or 
 ESE/VSAPI based)?

Also, you do know that you should stay away from the M:
   Drive, don't
you? The symptoms (like the permissions issue - I just 
 tested with
Outlook 2002 SP2 and it works here) you describe point me
  into the
direction that you are running some piece of software which
   accesses
the
M: Drive (like a file based backup or AV scanner) and
   causes some of
your grief.

Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /

Development Lead,

CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration
  Application
Experts http://www.cdolive.com
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 12:06 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
 
 
 That's too bad.  We have thousands of PFs and have always
   encouraged
 people to opt for a PF rather than a mailbox anytime they need
 somewhere to receive email to be viewed by people who
   already had a
 mailbox.  In 5.5, PFs worked pretty much flawlessly.  In 2000,
 they're terrible.  The rules just stop working
   intermittently.  The
 PFs that receive mostly outside mail are now posts, 
 so the rules
 don't work at all on those anymore.  The user role
   permissions are
   

DL for internal use only

2003-06-23 Thread BW Brandt Ward (5320)
Is there a way under Exchange 5.5 to have a DL which only works for people
in the org and will not work when coming from the outside world?  My
management doesn't want a certain DL to be used from an outside
source...like an ex-employee for example...they need it to work for the
people in the office or those connected via vpn but not from the outside.
Thanks,

b

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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Scribner
Not for the new accounts that aren't replicating.  But I do see this error in there.

Failed to read attribute msExchUserAccountControl from Active Directory for 
/o=Westwood/ou=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=dcook. 

Event ID 9562 which I've looked for in Technet and don't see anything for.


 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Is there anything in the event log?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Scribner
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating -- 

When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It seems
that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the default
policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the recipient
update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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RE: PFINFO question

2003-06-23 Thread knighTslayer
Are you doing this to get all the permissions and then to import it
again into another org or and upgrade of you 5.5 org?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 21:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


Yes it is

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Is this Org completley 5.5?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 21:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


Errors are logged in the PFINFO.log preceded by getting folder
properties: Error E_FAIL - Unknown Failure... Yes I saw that article,
but I don't think that is my problem...I did see the one on Address book
views, and I did have Outlook Address Book in the profile.  I am
rerunning it right now to see if that is my problem.  I know it
recommends running in each Site but that would be a major pain since
there I have so many Sites.  Does anyone know what the minimum is for
permissions to run PFINFO though.  It says in the readme that you must
be Service Account Admin, but it does not specify where they need to be
set.  I will have trouble getting access to the Org if I need that.

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Have you seen this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=328880

What errors exactly are you getting?

k



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 20:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: PFINFO question


Does anyone know exactly what permissions are needed to run PFINFO
without logging any errors.  I am running it on a international org with
multiple sites...I am SA admin on all of the sites and configs that
contain PF servers but I am still getting thousands of errors.

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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Dryden, Karen
The RUS is responsible for stamping the address on the user object.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating --


When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It
seems that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the
default policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the
recipient update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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RE: DL for internal use only

2003-06-23 Thread Chris Scharff
Change the SMTP address of the DL to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: BW Brandt Ward (5320) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:44 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: DL for internal use only
Subject: DL for internal use only


Is there a way under Exchange 5.5 to have a DL which only works for
people in the org and will not work when coming from the outside world?
My management doesn't want a certain DL to be used from an outside
source...like an ex-employee for example...they need it to work for the
people in the office or those connected via vpn but not from the
outside. Thanks,

b

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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
do you have any duplicate SMTP addresses in your org? they have been known
to trip RUS.

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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating -- 

When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It seems
that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the default
policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the recipient
update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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RE: PFINFO question

2003-06-23 Thread Hatley, Ken
No, we are trying to do a cleanup and I have to put together documentation on what we 
have before migrating to Ex2000.  We have a custom coded application that will do 1way 
or 2 way syncs until the migration is complete.  

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From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Are you doing this to get all the permissions and then to import it
again into another org or and upgrade of you 5.5 org?



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Yes it is

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Is this Org completley 5.5?

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Errors are logged in the PFINFO.log preceded by getting folder
properties: Error E_FAIL - Unknown Failure... Yes I saw that article,
but I don't think that is my problem...I did see the one on Address book
views, and I did have Outlook Address Book in the profile.  I am
rerunning it right now to see if that is my problem.  I know it
recommends running in each Site but that would be a major pain since
there I have so many Sites.  Does anyone know what the minimum is for
permissions to run PFINFO though.  It says in the readme that you must
be Service Account Admin, but it does not specify where they need to be
set.  I will have trouble getting access to the Org if I need that.

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Have you seen this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=328880

What errors exactly are you getting?

k



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Subject: PFINFO question


Does anyone know exactly what permissions are needed to run PFINFO
without logging any errors.  I am running it on a international org with
multiple sites...I am SA admin on all of the sites and configs that
contain PF servers but I am still getting thousands of errors.

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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Scribner
We've tried moving the RUS to another domain controller and telling it to update 
now, rebuild and it still isn't putting the stamp there.  Is there a service we 
could stop that would stop and restart this service.

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


The RUS is responsible for stamping the address on the user object.

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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating --


When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It
seems that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the
default policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the
recipient update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Chris Scharff
I experienced this issue where there was a mailbox associated with a
disabled user account object... Is that the case here?

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Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:44 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Recipient Policy
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Not for the new accounts that aren't replicating.  But I do see this
error in there.

Failed to read attribute msExchUserAccountControl from Active Directory
for /o=Westwood/ou=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=dcook. 

Event ID 9562 which I've looked for in Technet and don't see anything
for.


 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Is there anything in the event log?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick
Scribner
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:24 PM
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Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating --


When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It
seems that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the
default policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the
recipient update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Scribner
We have a TON of disabled user accounts out there with mailboxes.!!  I bet that is the 
issue!

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
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I experienced this issue where there was a mailbox associated with a
disabled user account object... Is that the case here?

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:44 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Recipient Policy
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Not for the new accounts that aren't replicating.  But I do see this
error in there.

Failed to read attribute msExchUserAccountControl from Active Directory
for /o=Westwood/ou=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=dcook. 

Event ID 9562 which I've looked for in Technet and don't see anything
for.


 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Is there anything in the event log?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick
Scribner
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating --


When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It
seems that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the
default policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the
recipient update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
that's a property that gets whacked when a user is disabled. You can
re-instate that property by adding SELF back to the mailbox permissions with
the Full Mailbox Access and Associated External Account rights.

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Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Not for the new accounts that aren't replicating.  But I do see this error
in there.

Failed to read attribute msExchUserAccountControl from Active Directory for
/o=Westwood/ou=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=dcook. 

Event ID 9562 which I've looked for in Technet and don't see anything for.


 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Is there anything in the event log?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:24 PM
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Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating -- 

When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It seems
that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the default
policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the recipient
update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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Re: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread William Lefkovics
I used to live just up the street from April Hunter.

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I once flew on the same plane as Michael Tucker.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Of course you do. You live in LA after all.

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 I'm not an attorney, but I play one on TV

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 Are you an attorney?  You might want to be careful dispensing legal 
 advice if you are not.

 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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 not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that email is company
property.
 A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is not required to 
 read employee email . . .


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RE: PFINFO question

2003-06-23 Thread knighTslayer
How many sites?  Would it be a big job to try and connect to at least
one server in each site to check the permissions of the account you are
using?

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Sent: 23 June 2003 21:50
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Subject: RE: PFINFO question


No, we are trying to do a cleanup and I have to put together
documentation on what we have before migrating to Ex2000.  We have a
custom coded application that will do 1way or 2 way syncs until the
migration is complete.  

 -Original Message-
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Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Are you doing this to get all the permissions and then to import it
again into another org or and upgrade of you 5.5 org?



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Yes it is

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Is this Org completley 5.5?

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Sent: 23 June 2003 21:13
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Errors are logged in the PFINFO.log preceded by getting folder
properties: Error E_FAIL - Unknown Failure... Yes I saw that article,
but I don't think that is my problem...I did see the one on Address book
views, and I did have Outlook Address Book in the profile.  I am
rerunning it right now to see if that is my problem.  I know it
recommends running in each Site but that would be a major pain since
there I have so many Sites.  Does anyone know what the minimum is for
permissions to run PFINFO though.  It says in the readme that you must
be Service Account Admin, but it does not specify where they need to be
set.  I will have trouble getting access to the Org if I need that.

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Have you seen this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=328880

What errors exactly are you getting?

k



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Subject: PFINFO question


Does anyone know exactly what permissions are needed to run PFINFO
without logging any errors.  I am running it on a international org with
multiple sites...I am SA admin on all of the sites and configs that
contain PF servers but I am still getting thousands of errors.

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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Dryden, Karen
No.

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We've tried moving the RUS to another domain controller and telling it
to update now, rebuild and it still isn't putting the stamp there.
Is there a service we could stop that would stop and restart this
service.

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


The RUS is responsible for stamping the address on the user object.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating --


When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It
seems that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the
default policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the
recipient update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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RE: DL for internal use only

2003-06-23 Thread Ward, Stuart
Can't you just remove the SMTP address?

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Subject: RE: DL for internal use only


Change the SMTP address of the DL to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: BW Brandt Ward (5320) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:44 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: DL for internal use only
Subject: DL for internal use only


Is there a way under Exchange 5.5 to have a DL which only works for
people in the org and will not work when coming from the outside world?
My management doesn't want a certain DL to be used from an outside
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RE: DL for internal use only

2003-06-23 Thread Chris Scharff
Yes, but it makes upgrading to E2K a bit more problematic.

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From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:01 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: DL for internal use only
Subject: RE: DL for internal use only


Can't you just remove the SMTP address?

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From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: DL for internal use only


Change the SMTP address of the DL to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: BW Brandt Ward (5320) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:44 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: DL for internal use only
Subject: DL for internal use only


Is there a way under Exchange 5.5 to have a DL which only works for
people in the org and will not work when coming from the outside world?
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RE: DL for internal use only

2003-06-23 Thread Ward, Stuart
We're doing this soon - why so?

Thanks

Stu

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From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:03 PM
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Subject: RE: DL for internal use only


Yes, but it makes upgrading to E2K a bit more problematic.

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From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:01 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: DL for internal use only
Subject: RE: DL for internal use only


Can't you just remove the SMTP address?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: DL for internal use only


Change the SMTP address of the DL to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: BW Brandt Ward (5320) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:44 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: DL for internal use only
Subject: DL for internal use only


Is there a way under Exchange 5.5 to have a DL which only works for
people in the org and will not work when coming from the outside world?
My management doesn't want a certain DL to be used from an outside
source...like an ex-employee for example...they need it to work for the
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b

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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Scribner
I'm sorry if this is kind of elementary but I don't see where to do this in the 
account properties in AD??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


that's a property that gets whacked when a user is disabled. You can
re-instate that property by adding SELF back to the mailbox permissions with
the Full Mailbox Access and Associated External Account rights.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Not for the new accounts that aren't replicating.  But I do see this error
in there.

Failed to read attribute msExchUserAccountControl from Active Directory for
/o=Westwood/ou=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=dcook. 

Event ID 9562 which I've looked for in Technet and don't see anything for.


 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Is there anything in the event log?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Scribner
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating -- 

When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It seems
that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the default
policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the recipient
update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Dryden, Karen
Exchange Advanced Tab, Mailbox Rights.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


I'm sorry if this is kind of elementary but I don't see where to do this
in the account properties in AD??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


that's a property that gets whacked when a user is disabled. You can
re-instate that property by adding SELF back to the mailbox permissions
with the Full Mailbox Access and Associated External Account rights.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Not for the new accounts that aren't replicating.  But I do see this
error in there.

Failed to read attribute msExchUserAccountControl from Active Directory
for /o=Westwood/ou=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=dcook. 

Event ID 9562 which I've looked for in Technet and don't see anything
for.


 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Is there anything in the event log?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick
Scribner
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating --


When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It
seems that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the
default policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the
recipient update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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Re: DL for internal use only

2003-06-23 Thread Martin Tuip [MVP]
Or remove the SMTP address in Exchange 5.5

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From: BW Brandt Ward (5320) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:43 PM
Subject: DL for internal use only


 Is there a way under Exchange 5.5 to have a DL which only works for people
 in the org and will not work when coming from the outside world?  My
 management doesn't want a certain DL to be used from an outside
 source...like an ex-employee for example...they need it to work for the
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 Thanks,

 b

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Re: DL for internal use only

2003-06-23 Thread Martin Tuip [MVP]
True about that .. so skip my response from a few seconds ago :)

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From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:02 PM
Subject: RE: DL for internal use only


Yes, but it makes upgrading to E2K a bit more problematic.

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:01 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: DL for internal use only
Subject: RE: DL for internal use only


Can't you just remove the SMTP address?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: DL for internal use only


Change the SMTP address of the DL to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: BW Brandt Ward (5320) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:44 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: DL for internal use only
Subject: DL for internal use only


Is there a way under Exchange 5.5 to have a DL which only works for
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RE: PFINFO question

2003-06-23 Thread Hatley, Ken
I am most concerned with one site that has about 2 public folders.  All of the 
folders are on 2 servers and I have confirmed my access to that site.  I do not have a 
mailbox in that site, howerver.  I know it asks for a profile for the mapi connection 
but I know I can traverse sites...so I should not be having issues???

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Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 4:01 PM
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Subject:RE: PFINFO question

How many sites?  Would it be a big job to try and connect to at least
one server in each site to check the permissions of the account you are
using?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 21:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


No, we are trying to do a cleanup and I have to put together
documentation on what we have before migrating to Ex2000.  We have a
custom coded application that will do 1way or 2 way syncs until the
migration is complete.  

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From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Are you doing this to get all the permissions and then to import it
again into another org or and upgrade of you 5.5 org?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 21:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


Yes it is

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Is this Org completley 5.5?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 21:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


Errors are logged in the PFINFO.log preceded by getting folder
properties: Error E_FAIL - Unknown Failure... Yes I saw that article,
but I don't think that is my problem...I did see the one on Address book
views, and I did have Outlook Address Book in the profile.  I am
rerunning it right now to see if that is my problem.  I know it
recommends running in each Site but that would be a major pain since
there I have so many Sites.  Does anyone know what the minimum is for
permissions to run PFINFO though.  It says in the readme that you must
be Service Account Admin, but it does not specify where they need to be
set.  I will have trouble getting access to the Org if I need that.

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Have you seen this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=328880

What errors exactly are you getting?

k



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Sent: 23 June 2003 20:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: PFINFO question


Does anyone know exactly what permissions are needed to run PFINFO
without logging any errors.  I am running it on a international org with
multiple sites...I am SA admin on all of the sites and configs that
contain PF servers but I am still getting thousands of errors.

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Re: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note

2003-06-23 Thread Martin Tuip [MVP]
A goat siggi .. no chicken ..

- Original Message - 
From: Siegfried Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:41 PM
Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note


I sacrificed a chicken. Still no go...

 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note


 Did you dance around the hat chanting incantations first?

 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Siegfried Weber
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:56 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note


 Follow up: doesn't look like it included in Exchange 2003
 RC1. Tried it and it is still IPM.Post...


  -Original Message-
  From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:34 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
 
 
   The question I have is what's the status of this hotfix
 with regards
   to E2k3? Is there an expectation that this functionality will be
   included in the RTM release?
 
  Exactly my thoughts. I'm going to run some tests with RC1
 to see if it
  is included there and post back here.
 
  Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /
 
  Development Lead,
 
  CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration Application
  Experts http://www.cdolive.com
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:03 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
  
  
   I'd wager that Siegfried is fully aware of the
 differences, probably
   more so than most on the list.
  
   The question I have is what's the status of this hotfix
 with regards
   to E2k3? Is there an expectation that this functionality will be
   included in the RTM release?
  
   --
   Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
   Sr. Systems Administrator
   Inovis Inc.
  
  
-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 7:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
   
   
I know about the hotfix and am not crazy about installing
   hotfixes, so
we're waiting at this point.  Nothing accesses the M: drive
   on our E2K
servers, it's excluded from vscan.  We don't do single
   folder backups
and our backups run after midnight.  OL2002 works sometimes
   here, too.
Nothing is constant.  I know rules fire on notes, but
   everything from
the internet comes into PF as posts.  Some of our rules
 just stop
working at times, though, on notes with nothing in the logs
   and with
logging turned up to max.  If you've never had a lot of PFs
   in 5.5 and
now you've gone to E2K, you can't really understand the
  differences.
   
-Original Message-
From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 6:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note
   
   
As for being posts instead of notes, see Andy's reply and call
Microsoft for a free of charge fix.
   
I've never used rules much on PF's hence I cannot comment
  on that. I
do understand that a rule doesn't fire if it is a post item
   but it should
fire on a note item. I'd be interested to hear if you have any
additional info what's going on. Especially if the store
  is hit by
other applications like a MAPI based backup (single
 folder backup
thingy
maybe?) or an antivirus scanner (either MAPI or
 ESE/VSAPI based)?
   
Also, you do know that you should stay away from the M:
   Drive, don't
you? The symptoms (like the permissions issue - I just
 tested with
Outlook 2002 SP2 and it works here) you describe point me
  into the
direction that you are running some piece of software which
   accesses
the
M: Drive (like a file based backup or AV scanner) and
   causes some of
your grief.
   
Cheers:Siegfried runat=server /
   
Development Lead,
   
CDOLive LLC - The Microsoft Messaging and Collaboration
  Application
Experts http://www.cdolive.com
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 12:06 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: IPM.Post VS. IPM.Note


 That's too bad.  We have thousands of PFs and have always
   encouraged
 people to opt for a PF rather than a mailbox anytime they need
 somewhere to receive email to be viewed by people who
   already had a
 mailbox.  In 5.5, PFs worked pretty much flawlessly.  In 2000,
 they're terrible.  The rules just stop working
   

RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Scribner
Even our users that aren't disabled don't have the Associated External Account 
rights, and SELF was already checked.  What is the best way to disable a user if just 
disabling them in AD causes this problem?  Should we also reassociate the mailbox with 
another account?  What do you people do for this type of situation?

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Exchange Advanced Tab, Mailbox Rights.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


I'm sorry if this is kind of elementary but I don't see where to do this
in the account properties in AD??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


that's a property that gets whacked when a user is disabled. You can
re-instate that property by adding SELF back to the mailbox permissions
with the Full Mailbox Access and Associated External Account rights.

-Original Message-
From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Not for the new accounts that aren't replicating.  But I do see this
error in there.

Failed to read attribute msExchUserAccountControl from Active Directory
for /o=Westwood/ou=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=dcook. 

Event ID 9562 which I've looked for in Technet and don't see anything
for.


 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Is there anything in the event log?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick
Scribner
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating --


When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It
seems that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the
default policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the
recipient update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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RE: Monitor Email content

2003-06-23 Thread David Precht
hehehe... Yahoo thought this email from Ed was spam...

--- Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've considered becoming a lawyer because I could
 then criticize lawyers
 with standing.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Slinger, Gary
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:55 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
 Um, whereas I'm considering studying law now just
 for the hell of it...  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:43
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 We are so happy that you've recovered from your bout
 of insanity.
 
 John Matteson
 Geac Corporate ISS
 (404) 239 - 2981
 Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Midgley, Ian
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:16 PM Posted To:
 Exchange Discussion
 List
 Conversation: Monitor Email content
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
 LOL. I nearly became a lawyer in my younger days and
 I just miss it. Now
 let's see - how's that restore coming along?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Henderson Richard
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 June 2003 16:11
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
 yawn
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Midgley, Ian
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 June 2003 17:11
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
 Which is exactly where a defined policy comes into
 play. To be able to read
 someone else's email the company must have an agreed
 policy in place whether
 or not the end user knows about it. That's the only
 way you can tell whether
 you are being asked to do something which you should
 do without contravening
 your terms of employment.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Slinger, Gary
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 June 2003 15:57
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
 Florida if you want a US location; England if you
 prefer the other side of
 the pond - DEPENDING on the chain-of-command
 structure for the given
 company.  And a few other things.  It depends. 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Midgley, Ian
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:55
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 I'm not confusing my opinion with established law.
 Give me an example of
 anywhere in the world where the scenario I outlined
 below would be legal?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Slinger, Gary
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 23 June 2003 15:51
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
 The emails might be the companies property but who
 is allowed to read them
 is a different thing altogether.
 
 Don't confuse your opinion with established law. 
 This is a whole mess of
 it depends.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Midgley, Ian
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:46
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Wow. So if a manager comes to me (Exchange admin)
 coz she dating a bloke in
 the typing pool and suspects he's two timing her and
 asks if she can read
 all his mail then it's ok for me to let her? Can I
 read his emails at the
 same time? What's my defence when he files a claim
 against me for emotional
 trauma when both his girl friends dump him? 
 
 I just don't want to go there. 
 
 The emails might be the companies property but who
 is allowed to read them
 is a different thing altogether.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 23 June 2003 15:38
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Monitor Email content
 
 
 not in the US . . . courts ruled a while ago that
 email is company property.
 A policy is good if you want to be *nice* but it is
 not required to read
 employee email . . .
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Midgley, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:10 AM
 Subject: RE: Monitor Email content
 
 
  Before you start looking at your users mail ensure
 that you have an 
  email policy defined and that all your companies
 employees know what 
  it is. Otherwise, you personally can be held
 responsible for invading 
  someones privacy. Like with tapping phones you
 have to have reasonable
 
  grounds to
 do
  this sort of thing.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Terry Hines
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 21 June 2003 22:36
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Monitor Email content
 
 
  I have been tasked with reviewing the content of
 employee email. What 
  is
 the
  best method?
 
 

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RE: PFINFO question

2003-06-23 Thread knighTslayer
You'd have nothing to lose with a mailbox - mapi connection direct to
that site.  Esp. with 20,000 public folders, that's one big ACL!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 22:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


I am most concerned with one site that has about 2 public folders.
All of the folders are on 2 servers and I have confirmed my access to
that site.  I do not have a mailbox in that site, howerver.  I know it
asks for a profile for the mapi connection but I know I can traverse
sites...so I should not be having issues???

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 4:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

How many sites?  Would it be a big job to try and connect to at least
one server in each site to check the permissions of the account you are
using?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 21:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


No, we are trying to do a cleanup and I have to put together
documentation on what we have before migrating to Ex2000.  We have a
custom coded application that will do 1way or 2 way syncs until the
migration is complete.  

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Are you doing this to get all the permissions and then to import it
again into another org or and upgrade of you 5.5 org?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 21:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


Yes it is

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Is this Org completley 5.5?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 21:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


Errors are logged in the PFINFO.log preceded by getting folder
properties: Error E_FAIL - Unknown Failure... Yes I saw that article,
but I don't think that is my problem...I did see the one on Address book
views, and I did have Outlook Address Book in the profile.  I am
rerunning it right now to see if that is my problem.  I know it
recommends running in each Site but that would be a major pain since
there I have so many Sites.  Does anyone know what the minimum is for
permissions to run PFINFO though.  It says in the readme that you must
be Service Account Admin, but it does not specify where they need to be
set.  I will have trouble getting access to the Org if I need that.

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Have you seen this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=328880

What errors exactly are you getting?

k



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 20:57
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: PFINFO question


Does anyone know exactly what permissions are needed to run PFINFO
without logging any errors.  I am running it on a international org with
multiple sites...I am SA admin on all of the sites and configs that
contain PF servers but I am still getting thousands of errors.

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RE: PFINFO question

2003-06-23 Thread Hatley, Ken
That one is the bulk of the PF's for that Org and I have confirmed that I am SA in all 
of the Sites that house PF's.  You are probably correct in that I should create a 
mailbox on the site that has the most of the folders, but I still should not be having 
a problem...I know that I had a guy run it from that site and he got quite a few 
errors as well.  I am really interested in finding what is causing the problem.  Does 
anyone else have any suggestions?

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 4:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

You'd have nothing to lose with a mailbox - mapi connection direct to
that site.  Esp. with 20,000 public folders, that's one big ACL!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 22:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


I am most concerned with one site that has about 2 public folders.
All of the folders are on 2 servers and I have confirmed my access to
that site.  I do not have a mailbox in that site, howerver.  I know it
asks for a profile for the mapi connection but I know I can traverse
sites...so I should not be having issues???

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 4:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

How many sites?  Would it be a big job to try and connect to at least
one server in each site to check the permissions of the account you are
using?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 21:50
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


No, we are trying to do a cleanup and I have to put together
documentation on what we have before migrating to Ex2000.  We have a
custom coded application that will do 1way or 2 way syncs until the
migration is complete.  

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Are you doing this to get all the permissions and then to import it
again into another org or and upgrade of you 5.5 org?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hatley, Ken
Sent: 23 June 2003 21:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


Yes it is

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From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:22 PM
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Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Is this Org completley 5.5?

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Sent: 23 June 2003 21:13
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Errors are logged in the PFINFO.log preceded by getting folder
properties: Error E_FAIL - Unknown Failure... Yes I saw that article,
but I don't think that is my problem...I did see the one on Address book
views, and I did have Outlook Address Book in the profile.  I am
rerunning it right now to see if that is my problem.  I know it
recommends running in each Site but that would be a major pain since
there I have so many Sites.  Does anyone know what the minimum is for
permissions to run PFINFO though.  It says in the readme that you must
be Service Account Admin, but it does not specify where they need to be
set.  I will have trouble getting access to the Org if I need that.

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:05 PM
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Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Have you seen this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=328880

What errors exactly are you getting?

k



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Does anyone know exactly what permissions are needed to run PFINFO
without logging any errors.  I am running it on a international org with
multiple sites...I am SA admin on all of the sites and configs that
contain PF servers but I am still getting thousands of errors.

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RE: PFINFO question

2003-06-23 Thread knighTslayer
What does the app log say on that target server in that site?  Does it
moan about permissions at all?  Are these folders replicated to other
sites and do you get the same problems for those folders in other sites?

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That one is the bulk of the PF's for that Org and I have confirmed that
I am SA in all of the Sites that house PF's.  You are probably correct
in that I should create a mailbox on the site that has the most of the
folders, but I still should not be having a problem...I know that I had
a guy run it from that site and he got quite a few errors as well.  I am
really interested in finding what is causing the problem.  Does anyone
else have any suggestions?

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Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 4:25 PM
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You'd have nothing to lose with a mailbox - mapi connection direct to
that site.  Esp. with 20,000 public folders, that's one big ACL!

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Sent: 23 June 2003 22:17
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I am most concerned with one site that has about 2 public folders.
All of the folders are on 2 servers and I have confirmed my access to
that site.  I do not have a mailbox in that site, howerver.  I know it
asks for a profile for the mapi connection but I know I can traverse
sites...so I should not be having issues???

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How many sites?  Would it be a big job to try and connect to at least
one server in each site to check the permissions of the account you are
using?

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Sent: 23 June 2003 21:50
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No, we are trying to do a cleanup and I have to put together
documentation on what we have before migrating to Ex2000.  We have a
custom coded application that will do 1way or 2 way syncs until the
migration is complete.  

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Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:48 PM
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Are you doing this to get all the permissions and then to import it
again into another org or and upgrade of you 5.5 org?



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Sent: 23 June 2003 21:37
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Yes it is

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From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:22 PM
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Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Is this Org completley 5.5?

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Sent: 23 June 2003 21:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: PFINFO question


Errors are logged in the PFINFO.log preceded by getting folder
properties: Error E_FAIL - Unknown Failure... Yes I saw that article,
but I don't think that is my problem...I did see the one on Address book
views, and I did have Outlook Address Book in the profile.  I am
rerunning it right now to see if that is my problem.  I know it
recommends running in each Site but that would be a major pain since
there I have so many Sites.  Does anyone know what the minimum is for
permissions to run PFINFO though.  It says in the readme that you must
be Service Account Admin, but it does not specify where they need to be
set.  I will have trouble getting access to the Org if I need that.

 -Original Message-
From:   knighTslayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, June 23, 2003 3:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: PFINFO question

Have you seen this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=328880

What errors exactly are you getting?

k



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Subject: PFINFO question


Does anyone know exactly what permissions are needed to run PFINFO
without logging any errors.  I am running it on a international org with
multiple sites...I am SA admin on all of the sites and configs that
contain PF servers but I am still getting thousands of errors.

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Exchange 2000 Domino R5

2003-06-23 Thread Ronk
All I bringing up a new Exchange 2k server to replace my Notes server but
am having a issue with my boss. He wants to keep both systems alive and
running together with the same email addresses ands same domain name. He
wants to just migrate a few people at a time into the new exchange server,
while the others stay on Notes until it is time for their move. I am not
sure how to approach this??

I know that I can't use the same MX record that we have for the notes
server because it will not know what server to go to. We have a domain
name of mile-high.com and email addresses are
[EMAIL PROTECTED], he wants to keep the same addressing for
the email. I am able to send to the outside world with the new exchange
account but can't receive from the outside.

Can anyone point me in the right direction ?? I know I could use a notes
connector but seems like alot of wasted time when the server is going to
go away.
 Any Ideas are appreciated.
Thanks In Advance
Ronk

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RE: Exchange 2000 Domino R5

2003-06-23 Thread knighTslayer
You need a lotus notes directory connector I guess.

http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/interop/NotesConnector.asp

k

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Subject: Exchange 2000  Domino R5


All I bringing up a new Exchange 2k server to replace my Notes server
but am having a issue with my boss. He wants to keep both systems alive
and running together with the same email addresses ands same domain
name. He wants to just migrate a few people at a time into the new
exchange server, while the others stay on Notes until it is time for
their move. I am not sure how to approach this??

I know that I can't use the same MX record that we have for the notes
server because it will not know what server to go to. We have a domain
name of mile-high.com and email addresses are
[EMAIL PROTECTED], he wants to keep the same addressing
for the email. I am able to send to the outside world with the new
exchange account but can't receive from the outside.

Can anyone point me in the right direction ?? I know I could use a notes
connector but seems like alot of wasted time when the server is going to
go away.  Any Ideas are appreciated. Thanks In Advance Ronk

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RE: DL for internal use only

2003-06-23 Thread Chris Scharff
Because all objects in E2K must have an SMTP address. 

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We're doing this soon - why so?

Thanks

Stu

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Yes, but it makes upgrading to E2K a bit more problematic.

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Can't you just remove the SMTP address?

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Change the SMTP address of the DL to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Posted At: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:44 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: DL for internal use only
Subject: DL for internal use only


Is there a way under Exchange 5.5 to have a DL which only works for
people in the org and will not work when coming from the outside world?
My management doesn't want a certain DL to be used from an outside
source...like an ex-employee for example...they need it to work for the
people in the office or those connected via vpn but not from the
outside. Thanks,

b

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RE: Exchange 2000 Domino R5

2003-06-23 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I had a customer who had Lotus Notes in-house and we hosted Exchange 2000
for them. They had 150 users on Exchange and a bunch more on LN.

They also had an NT Mail server in-house (Gordano NT Mail). MX records were
pointing to NT Mail server. NT Mail server had a routing table which defined
the Exchange users, if a message came to an Exchange user - it was relayed
to our Exchange environment. Otherwise it was given to LN.

On Exchange side, we had a recipient policy for their domain name with the
option UNselected 
this Exchange organization is responsible for all mail delivery to this
address.

And we had an SMTP connector with their domain name in the Address Space and
it pointed to their NT Mail server.

The way all this worked - if Exchange finds an SMTP address locally, it
keeps the message. If it does not - it shoots it to NT Mail.

I think we also defined that NTMail server as a smart host in the properties
of the Default SMTP Virtual Server.

There was no GAL synchronization. They just sent mail to each other by
typing their SMTP addresses.

I guess for more $$$ we could have put together some kind of dir synch.

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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000  Domino R5


All I bringing up a new Exchange 2k server to replace my Notes server but
am having a issue with my boss. He wants to keep both systems alive and
running together with the same email addresses ands same domain name. He
wants to just migrate a few people at a time into the new exchange server,
while the others stay on Notes until it is time for their move. I am not
sure how to approach this??

I know that I can't use the same MX record that we have for the notes
server because it will not know what server to go to. We have a domain
name of mile-high.com and email addresses are
[EMAIL PROTECTED], he wants to keep the same addressing for
the email. I am able to send to the outside world with the new exchange
account but can't receive from the outside.

Can anyone point me in the right direction ?? I know I could use a notes
connector but seems like alot of wasted time when the server is going to
go away.
 Any Ideas are appreciated.
Thanks In Advance
Ronk

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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
in AD Users and Computers do View-Advanced

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I'm sorry if this is kind of elementary but I don't see where to do this in
the account properties in AD??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:57 PM
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that's a property that gets whacked when a user is disabled. You can
re-instate that property by adding SELF back to the mailbox permissions with
the Full Mailbox Access and Associated External Account rights.

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Not for the new accounts that aren't replicating.  But I do see this error
in there.

Failed to read attribute msExchUserAccountControl from Active Directory for
/o=Westwood/ou=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=dcook. 

Event ID 9562 which I've looked for in Technet and don't see anything for.


 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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Is there anything in the event log?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating -- 

When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It seems
that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the default
policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the recipient
update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
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RE: Recipient Policy

2003-06-23 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
After you disable a user, go to the Mailbox Rights and bring back SELF. Then
mailbox will start accepting mail and you will be able to allow others to
view the mailbox. Without SELF, mailbox will not accept mail (mail will
bounce) and others will not be able to view the mailbox contents despite
having Full Mailbox Access rights.

There is a Q article somewhere about this.

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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:18 PM
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Even our users that aren't disabled don't have the Associated External
Account rights, and SELF was already checked.  What is the best way to
disable a user if just disabling them in AD causes this problem?  Should we
also reassociate the mailbox with another account?  What do you people do
for this type of situation?

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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-Original Message-
From: Dryden, Karen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:06 PM
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Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Exchange Advanced Tab, Mailbox Rights.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 5:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


I'm sorry if this is kind of elementary but I don't see where to do this
in the account properties in AD??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


that's a property that gets whacked when a user is disabled. You can
re-instate that property by adding SELF back to the mailbox permissions
with the Full Mailbox Access and Associated External Account rights.

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From: Patrick Scribner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 4:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Not for the new accounts that aren't replicating.  But I do see this
error in there.

Failed to read attribute msExchUserAccountControl from Active Directory
for /o=Westwood/ou=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=dcook. 

Event ID 9562 which I've looked for in Technet and don't see anything
for.


 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
303-426-7000 x764
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-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recipient Policy


Is there anything in the event log?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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Scribner
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Recipient Policy


Hey guys we're having a problem here that has become very frustrating --


When we add a new user the email addresses are not being populated. It
seems that the recipient policy is not being applied. This is using the
default policy, win2k domain, exchange 6 SP3. I have tried moving the
recipient update service to another domain controller with no luck.  

any ideas??

 
Thanks,
 
Patrick Scribner, MCSE
DBA
Westwood College
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