Re: [expert] Spam Filtering with postfix

2003-01-15 Thread David Whiting
Have you taken a look at the Eric Raymond's implementation of a Bayesian
statsistics spam filter (based on an idea by Paul Graham)? This way you
don't have to build up the rules, instead they get built on the
characteristics of good mail versus spam mail. I have heard good reports
about it, but have not (yet) installed it myself.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/bogofilter/

Dave


> At the moment, I'm still a bit tight on the filters. I'm only getting 
> about 25% of the mail from this list! And I'm losing some personal mail. 
> I need to work out an "exceptions" list. Like a way to say:
> 
> All mail from msn.com, except mail from @msn.com
> 
> Should be a way Need to dig.
> 

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Re: [expert] There will be a good MandrakeFuture?¡

2003-01-15 Thread Vox

This time Damian Gatabria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
becomes daring and writes:

>>   Actually, just plain math will do...at least here in Mexico we get
>>   to learn that != moans "is different from" when in 9th or 10th
>>   grade.
>>
>>   Vox
>
> Well, make it "just plain mexican math will do" then :o)
>
> Over here, we are taught that "is different from" is symbolized 
> with a striked-out " = " sign.

  You never took math in a computer then :) And you are actually
  right...we learned that the striked-out = is the symbol for that (I
  just asked a friend with better memory than me...it's been almost 20
  years since 10th grade for me :)...he says I must have picked up the
  != from computer class we took that same year :)

  Vox

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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread Vox

This time James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
becomes daring and writes:

> Dang and me just being a shell hack, and an old one to boot remember
> that Chrysler once went bankrupt..  

  Actually twice...once at the beginning of the Iaccoca age (he used
  it to stop the debt payments so he could sink money in the
  development of the K cars) and once a few years after him.

  Ford has gone Ch.11 too, IIRC.

  Vox

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Re: [expert] It's up!

2003-01-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 22:13, Ric Tibbetts wrote:
> My mail server is back up.
> To fix it, I totally uninstalled postfix, and mutt (had to uninstall
> mutt to satisfy a dependency). Then I cleaned out /etc/postfix, and did
> a clean install, then laid my config files back in.
> 
> It's up now (in fact, I 'm sending this on it).
> 
> I still have no clear idea what went awry. Only that postfix became
> irretrievably corrupt.
> 
> I'm going to go plug in my X-Box now, and blow things up!
> 
> Again, to all who assisted today, and a special thanks to Mark Weaver
> for hanging in with me all day:
> 
> THANK YOU!!!
> 
> This is the greatest list in the world!
> 
> Ric

Spread the love around by letting the Mandrake peeps know that you
appreciate Todd's help.

LX
 

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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 16:30, Miark wrote:
> Ken,
> 
> Don't be passive. If you, Ken Hawkins, want Mandrakesoft to prosper,
> then you Ken Hawkins, should do what you can to see that happen. I'm
> no suggesting taking out a bank loan to donate to Mandrake, but if
> you had already planned on renewing your subscription, then you
> should do so.
> 
> If you don't, on the other hand, you'll be adding to their financial
> challenges--challenges that may force Mandrakesoft to let go of great
> people. I don't know about you, but I'd rather be part of the
> solution than part of the problem--even if I lose my stupid club
> membership money.
> 
> And forget about pointing fingers at management. The current
> financial woes are the remains of the old management, not the new.
> Mistakes were made; mistakes were corrected--end of story. The only
> question now is what we can do to help. 
> 
> Remember Kennedy's, "Ask not what your country can do for you--ask
> what you can do for your country."? It's the same thing.
> 
> Renew your membership.
> 
> Miark
> 


Miark:

Excellent post!  Kudos to you for that fine response.  I can't add much
to that, except to say that companies like Chrysler have weathered
bankruptcy protection in the past, and look where they are today. 
Dennis Meyers was pointing this out in a post sometime yesterday.

So there are successful companies out there (big ones) that have had the
same dilemma as Mandrakesoft has now.  And they have grown and prospered
as a result.

In this case, what doesn't kill you will make you stronger.

LX

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Re: [expert] Recognition of Todd Lyons

2003-01-15 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 14:08, Azrael wrote:
> Can we combine this vote with the vote for what's in 9.1?
> I vote Todd is bundled in with 9.1 so everyone gets to use him, even if
> they aren't on the list. ;)

Lol!!

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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?¡

2003-01-15 Thread Damian Gatabria

>   Actually, just plain math will do...at least here in Mexico we get
>   to learn that != moans "is different from" when in 9th or 10th
>   grade.
>
>   Vox

Well, make it "just plain mexican math will do" then :o)

Over here, we are taught that "is different from" is symbolized 
with a striked-out " = " sign.

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[expert] ut2003

2003-01-15 Thread Michael Holt
Hey all,
Has anyone installed ut2003?  I'm stumped - I've just spent the last two 
days trying to install but after about 6 or 7 hours, it goes into this 
loop where it keeps creating the same folder within it self ( it creates a 
folder called "scorched earth" and populates it with some files then under 
that directory it creates "scorched earth" then populates it with the same 
files as the last and keeps on going like that until I hit ^c to stop it)
I've tried turning supermount completely off and stopping devfs in my 
lilo.conf file (just a wild guess) and I'm going to retry it to see how 
far it gets.  Until then though, does anyone have any suggestions?  I'm 
stumped.

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Re: [expert] rebuilding OO....

2003-01-15 Thread James Sparenberg
Damian,

Took a look at mine... Yep you are right on a number of font types I've
found that below 8 (or even at 8) I get nothing... Times was the only
one that went smaller.  I suspect but I'm not sure that is because these
fonts don't go below 8. Not sure... 

James

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 18:22, Damian Gatabria wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> Some time ago i had the problem with fonts
> dissapearing from OO. 
> I applied the usual workaround, and i can use it now, 
> however my OO installation is unable to render text of
> size smaller than 8.
> 
> 
> Does anybody know if rebuilding the src.rpm for OO from
> Cooker will get rid of this problem and give me a fully-functional
> office suite once again?
> 
> thanks!
> 
> Damian
> 
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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread James Sparenberg
Dang and me just being a shell hack, and an old one to boot remember
that Chrysler once went bankrupt..  

James

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> >
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> >
> > right?
> >
> > really, it is possible that not all of the readers on
> > this list are C programmers.. when trying to state
> > something meant to be obvious, please do not save
> > yourself from the hassle to type "is different from" :o)
> >
> >
> > Damian
> > (always with the stupidest comment at his fingertips)
> 
> You don´t need to know C, python or perl will do ;-)
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[expert] rebuilding OO....

2003-01-15 Thread Damian Gatabria

Hi.

Some time ago i had the problem with fonts
dissapearing from OO. 
I applied the usual workaround, and i can use it now, 
however my OO installation is unable to render text of
size smaller than 8.


Does anybody know if rebuilding the src.rpm for OO from
Cooker will get rid of this problem and give me a fully-functional
office suite once again?

thanks!

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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread Vox

This time Sascha Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
becomes daring and writes:

> On Wednesday 15 January 2003 08:38 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote:
>> >   bankruptcy PROTECTION != bankrupt
>>
>> you mean "bankrupcy protection!" = "bankrupt"
>>
>> right?
>>
>> really, it is possible that not all of the readers on
>> this list are C programmers.. when trying to state
>> something meant to be obvious, please do not save
>> yourself from the hassle to type "is different from" :o)
>>
>>
>> Damian
>> (always with the stupidest comment at his fingertips)
>
> You don´t need to know C, python or perl will do ;-)

  Actually, just plain math will do...at least here in Mexico we get
  to learn that != moans "is different from" when in 9th or 10th
  grade. 

  Vox

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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread Sascha Noyes
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> >   bankruptcy PROTECTION != bankrupt
>
> you mean "bankrupcy protection!" = "bankrupt"
>
> right?
>
> really, it is possible that not all of the readers on
> this list are C programmers.. when trying to state
> something meant to be obvious, please do not save
> yourself from the hassle to type "is different from" :o)
>
>
> Damian
> (always with the stupidest comment at his fingertips)

You don´t need to know C, python or perl will do ;-)

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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread Damian Gatabria

>   bankruptcy PROTECTION != bankrupt

you mean "bankrupcy protection!" = "bankrupt" 

right?

really, it is possible that not all of the readers on
this list are C programmers.. when trying to state
something meant to be obvious, please do not save
yourself from the hassle to type "is different from" :o)


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Re: [expert] printer driver in samba

2003-01-15 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi Buchan and All,

: Did you join the domain? I assume it's a windows (NT or 2k?)
: domain?

Yes it is joined to the NT PDC. wbinfo -t says secret is good.

: The default is "\", comment it out rather, as it's quite
: difficult to get it right (you must have the quotes). Also,
: for ACLs etc, it might be worthwhile disabling 'winbind use
: default domain', at least to test ...

I think the mismatched winbind separator is the cause. I made write_list and
print_admin @"MyDomain\Print Admins" and the winbdin separator to "\".

: This looks a bit suspect ... the one below for your hp5p loks
: right
: >  print command = lp -d %p -o raw %s; rm -f %s

Thanks I copied that from Samba Essentials for Windows Administrator 8( But
I'm able to print on the LM9.0 box.

: > [hp5p]
: >  comment = HP LaserJet 5P--Show Room
:
: You should use /var/spool/samba here unless you reall know what
: you are doing. Anyway, in most cases you don't need per-printer
: config, unless your printing defaults (in [printers]) are wrong.

Thanks I changed that as well. I now successfully uploaded the W2K drivers
from a W2K workstation. But can't upload NT4.0 drivers. I tried on a NT4.0
workstation it says they are uploaded, but I checked the directory. It's
empty. Do you know why? Also I can't upload drivers by browsing server
properties in printers. I can only do it by selecting the printer then add
new driver. The books tells me otherwise.

Also the print job from a windows machine prints out a page with some PJL
commands, then a page of the print out and then some garbage. I assume this
is driver's fault. Can it be because I have a Raw device setup in CUPS? They
don't offer the printer driver (HP5P) when I choose add printer. I needed to
select RAW device initially?

I hope I'm not getting too annoying. And thank you in advance for your
patience and expert advice.

Regards,
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Re: [expert] MNF vs SNF

2003-01-15 Thread Lorne
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 02:32 am, JP wrote:
> T E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> deeg zun bes op schoal um hej te kinne schrieve:
>
> [snip]
>
> > > I highly recommend the newer one. I don't believe
> > > there is any time bomb, and
> > > I'm not sure if they require money after 6 months,
> > > although it is certainly
> > > worth what ever it is they charge. I subscribe, so
> > > haven't actually purchased
> > > a shrink wrap one. I think they get more money by
> > > just donating so that is
> > > what I did.
> >
> > Here is part of the reason why I believe there are
> > only 6 months to register: I log into MNF and am
> > greated with this text:
> >
> > "UPDATES: Don't forget to register your firewall to
> > receive your free updates for 6 months. These updates
> > are critical to keep your security product up to date
> > and to maintain a high security level. These updates
> > consist of improvements to most features, security
> > fixes and more."
> >
> > Like I said updates are critical.  And while this
> > product may be worth every one of the 200,000 pennies
> > spent on it, I need a FREE product since I basically
> > have a 0 penny budget at the moment.
> >
> > It seems to me that if updates for SNF are free that
> > may be the way to go.  Don't get me wrong, I'd love to
> > go with MNF, but I can't afford the price at the
> > moment and will need eternal updates.
>
> it seems as if they try to get people to pay for the mnf updates, however,
> I dont think you will have to do so in order to get the updates.
>
> first of all, i just checked a mandrake updates mirror and there is a
> seperate directory for mnf, that one could simply use (add to urpmi etc.)
> without mandrake even knowing it.
>
> second, this mnf is basically a (heavily modified and stripped down)
> version of mandrake 8.2. for which updates are freely available. see also
> snf, which has a similar relationship to 7.2, with many packages in the
> snf update directory being a simlink to the 7.2 updates.
>
> all in all a rather unclear situation, as by reading the mandrake website
> one would think you have to pay for security updates.
>
> JP

To make matters even weirder there is no documentation for it!?!??! It says if 
you didn't get documentation with it, to purchase a copy or something to that 
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[expert] It's up!

2003-01-15 Thread Ric Tibbetts
My mail server is back up.
To fix it, I totally uninstalled postfix, and mutt (had to uninstall
mutt to satisfy a dependency). Then I cleaned out /etc/postfix, and did
a clean install, then laid my config files back in.

It's up now (in fact, I 'm sending this on it).

I still have no clear idea what went awry. Only that postfix became
irretrievably corrupt.

I'm going to go plug in my X-Box now, and blow things up!

Again, to all who assisted today, and a special thanks to Mark Weaver
for hanging in with me all day:

THANK YOU!!!

This is the greatest list in the world!

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[expert] I'm sorry, but in KDE how do I remove the title bar for an application

2003-01-15 Thread Peter Møller Neergaard
I'm really sorry for asking such an apparently simple question which
shouldn't really need an expert advise.  However, I've been trying for
an hour I just cannot figure out how to specify to KDE that I don't
want the title bar for a specific application.

I can't really believe that it should matter, but I do run Mandrake
9.0 and I have the following KDE  packages installed:

  kdesdk-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdevelop-2.1.3-6mdk
  kdelibs-devel-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdenetwork-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kde-i18n-en_GB-3.0.3-2mdk
  kdeadmin-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdemultimedia-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdeutils-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdebase-nsplugins-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdepim-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdegraphics-devel-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdebase-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdenetwork-devel-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdegraphics-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdebase-devel-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdelibs-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdetoys-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  kdemultimedia-devel-3.0.5a-1.1mdk
  

Truly, thanks in advance

/Peter
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Re: [expert] Recognition of Todd Lyons

2003-01-15 Thread J. Craig Woods
H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

On Wednesday 15 January 2003 16:49, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:


I want to make an official appeal to the Mandrake management to keep
Todd Lyons securely in the company, in the recent light of current
events regarding the Chapter 11.

Todd Lyons has been an incredible asset to the Expert list, helping
countless users with their problems and concerns.  It would be a
terrible loss to Mandrake and an even more terrible loss to all Mandrake
users were anything to happen that would force him to seek other
employment.  We want him around and we want him to stay.

Civileme was a huge asset to all of us here in North America, as well as
the rest of the world.  We don't want the same thing to happen to Todd
Lyons.  If this concerns you now is the time to make your support known.

Thank you, Todd.

LX



I second that wholeheartedly.
Where would we be without all those blues skies

HarM



HERE HERE! I concur with all that assert Todd's importance to the list. 
I see his service to the Mandrake distro as being an invaluable 
contribution to the Mandrake community of users.

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Re: [expert] OT network backup solutions

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Belanger
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 18:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 00:28, Mark Belanger wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a backup solution for
> > a fairly large(300 node) heterogeneous network.
> > 
> > We currently have Solaris, Windows, Linux, SunOS,
> > and DomainOS machines.
> 
> Arkeia (commercial) and Amanda come to mind. For non-Linux backup 
> servers I've used Veritas' NetBackup. It has clients for most OSes. 
> 
> By solution do you mean "strategy" or "product"?

Product.  I'd prefer OpenSource but will consider others.
Cost is a major factor.

-Mark

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Re: [expert] OT network backup solutions

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Belanger
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 17:30, Seth Zirin wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 00:28, Mark Belanger wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a backup solution for
> > a fairly large(300 node) heterogeneous network.
> > 
> > We currently have Solaris, Windows, Linux, SunOS,
> > and DomainOS machines.
> 
> Hire an MIS department?

Thanks. Very helpful.  I wish I'd thought of that.

-Mark

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Re: [expert] "Removable Media" icon

2003-01-15 Thread James Sparenberg
HarM,

  edit the .icewm/toolbar file and you can put the icons on the
taskbar.  Easy format  for example

prog Evolution jmail.png evolution

added Evo to the bar.  The icon has to be in /usr/share/icons/mini to
get grabbed (it uses 16x16 icons) and if it's not there. It lists the
app name.

James


On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 16:49, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 January 2003 23:31, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > On Wednesday January 15 2003 03:30 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > > Still like my two methods.
> > >
> > > If I use KDE in control center -> Look n Feel -> Desktop.  Uncheck
> > > enable desktop Icons.
> > >
> > > otherwise ... I use iceWM. *grin*.
> > >
> > > James
> >
> >That's been my solution for a long time. Even before that option
> > existed and it took some hacking to get rid of icons ... useless as
> > they are. Who wants a bunch of redundant icons (everything's already
> > on the menus) cluttering up an otherwise perfectly good desktop ;)
> 
> I (and the kids) do when I've installed games (i.e. Loki's Mindrover & Kohan) 
> or lately 'blender' who don't appear in the menu's.
> 
> The 'skulls&bones" (my own brew) as a shutdown icon is a life(fsck) saver too.
> If Icewm offered me icons it'd be our default desktop in a flash, it's my 
> personal favorite, but then I know (by heart) what's installed and what's 
> not.
> 
> Xfce is rising fast in the polls lately too though...over here.=:o)
> 
> Good Luck,
> HarM
> 
> 
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RE: [expert] vfat mounting

2003-01-15 Thread Jack Coates
found it! You can set a umask in the options. 
/dev/sda1 /home/jack/.crypto vfat
user,iocharset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,noexec,sync,umask=0077 1 2

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 14:49, Jane wrote:
> Add 
> mode=0600 
> to the fstab entry
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jack Coates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [expert] vfat mounting
> 
> 
> I've got a removable media device (sony memorystick) formatted as vfat
> which I'm mounting as my home of tiny super-secret stuff like gnupg
> and
> figaro's password manager. The problem is that it insists on mounting
> with some overgenerous permissions:
> [jack@chupacabra jack]$ grep crypto /etc/fstab
> /dev/sda1 /home/jack/.crypto vfat
> user,iocharset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,exec 1 2
> [jack@chupacabra jack]$ ls -la | grep .crypto
> drwxrwxr-x4 jack jack16384 Dec 31  1969 .crypto/
> 
> I've been reading the mount and umask man pages and STFWing, but I
> can't
> figure out how to make it mount with reduced permissions... something
> like 600 would be more like it.
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Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it's d ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Ric Tibbetts


> This is a multi-part message in MIME format...
> 
> 
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:53:44 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> 
> >I'm getting these. I'm using my work address for this discussion.
> >
> >I agree that port 25 is dead. The question is: Why & How?
> >
> >The line in /etc/services is fine. It's uncommented.
> >smtp IS included in bastille-firewall.cfg
> >postfix "is" running.
> >
> >I have no clue as to what closed that port! And I've rebooted a couple 
> >of times. So what ever is doing it, is persistant!
> >
> >BTW: I "can" get messages out. Just not in.
> >
> >Ric
> 
> Hi Ric,
> 
> Is port 25 blocked by the isp, some isp's block port 25 incoming to
the user
> on home accounts to stop people running mail servers.
> 
> Can you borrow a old box from work and load a text only Mdk on it and
leave
> the box wide open, then moved your mail setting to it to see if that
works.
> If that works then move your firewall to it to see if that works.
> A process of elimination will eventually find it.
> 
> Gary.
> 

Thanks Gary;
I checked with my ISP on that. I've been running that server for a
couple of years now. And if they blocked 25, it would block it for every
one, and they don't.

I now suspect that I've induced an error into my postfix configuration
files. It was all working this morning, then I was tweaking those files,
and it broke. (I stepped away for a little while to calm down.. and it
started looking much clearer).

If I could get ahold of Mark Weaver, he has a copy of my files as of
last night (when they were working). Mark, if you're out there, semd 'em
back!!! 

Thanks!

 

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Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it's d ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Gary
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:53:44 -0500, you wrote:


>I'm getting these. I'm using my work address for this discussion.
>
>I agree that port 25 is dead. The question is: Why & How?
>
>The line in /etc/services is fine. It's uncommented.
>smtp IS included in bastille-firewall.cfg
>postfix "is" running.
>
>I have no clue as to what closed that port! And I've rebooted a couple 
>of times. So what ever is doing it, is persistant!
>
>BTW: I "can" get messages out. Just not in.
>
>Ric

Hi Ric,

Is port 25 blocked by the isp, some isp's block port 25 incoming to the user
on home accounts to stop people running mail servers.

Can you borrow a old box from work and load a text only Mdk on it and leave
the box wide open, then moved your mail setting to it to see if that works.
If that works then move your firewall to it to see if that works.
A process of elimination will eventually find it.

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Re: [expert] Sony Micro Vault 128 - drakupdate_fsta loooooooop

2003-01-15 Thread Todd Lyons
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oscar wrote on Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 12:55:01AM +0100 :
> Hi all,
> I wrote to the list about sony micro vault 128 usb storage. Now I have it 
> working in my LM 8.2 thanks to Todd with modprobe sd_mod.
> Now I have tested it in my LM 9.0 computer and I presume that we have a little 
> My computer was in a loop, and when I ran "top", I discovered a program which 
> was running over an over again eating 50% of cpu time: drakupdate_fsta.
> How I stoped the loop? I should rename /usr/sbin/drakupdate_fsta to 

Well that just shows how much the kernel changed inbetween 8.2 and 9.0.
Remove that line from /etc/modules.conf and that will get rid of the
loop.  As for how to make it automatic, look in /etc/hotplug/usb
directory.  You'll have to put a script there that will modprobe that
module in.

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Re: [expert] web cam for linux

2003-01-15 Thread bascule
thanks dave, i'll take a look at that

bascule

On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 4:17 am, Dave Seff wrote:
> I use the Philips PCA646VC. Works quite nicely.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 19:37, bascule wrote:
> > i would welcome recommendations from folk in the uk for a cheap basic
> > webcam that will work with gnomemeeting etc.
> >
> > bascule

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Re: [expert] MNF vs SNF

2003-01-15 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jan 15, 2003 at 11:59:24AM -0800, T E wrote:

> OK I guess this clears some of the confusion... Still
> wonder why MDK left it so vague though.  And you know
> the funny thing?  Click on the "register your
> firewall" when you first enter the MNF box and you're
> directed to 
> 
> "The page /products/mnf/register you are looking for
> is missing"

Yeah, I discovered this as well.  This will be corrected quickly, from
my understanding, but I'm not directly involved with it.  I hope to see
something there in the coming week.

> Then again, they are having a few internal problems. 
> And while we're on the topic, does Chapter 11 affect
> updates from mdk at all?  Or is it nearly entirely
> based upon the open source community?

Not sure what you mean.  Does the community make updated rpm packages
for Mandrake?  No.  Are patches and whatnot available to the open
source community at large?  Sure is.  You can grab RH's packages,
figure out what patches were applied, and then try to apply them to
your mdk packages and back-port as appropriate.  Or build the new
software from source yourself.

There is nothing binding you to using mandrake updates if you really
don't want to.

> Now that I know that free updates are possible from a
> license stand point, I'd hate to find out they aren't
> feasible with the "new" company model...

What "new" company model might that be?  I'm afraid I don't know what
you're insinuating here.

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[expert] Sony Micro Vault 128 - drakupdate_fsta loooooooop

2003-01-15 Thread oscar
Hi all,
I wrote to the list about sony micro vault 128 usb storage. Now I have it 
working in my LM 8.2 thanks to Todd with modprobe sd_mod.
Now I have tested it in my LM 9.0 computer and I presume that we have a little 
problem with drakupdate_fsta.
I wrote in /etc/modules.conf this line:
alias /dev/sda sd_mod
This is working ok in LM 8.2.
But when I plugged the Sony Micro Vault to the usb port, and when I did "ls 
/dev/sda" I observed something like this in my /var/log/messages:
-
Jan 16 00:01:38 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte hdwr 
sectors (131 MB)
Jan 16 00:01:38 localhost kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 16 00:01:38 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 
p4
Jan 16 00:01:38 localhost kernel: USB Mass Storage support registered.
Jan 16 00:01:41 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte hdwr 
sectors (131 MB)
Jan 16 00:01:41 localhost kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 16 00:01:41 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 
p4
Jan 16 00:01:44 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte hdwr 
sectors (131 MB)
Jan 16 00:01:44 localhost kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 16 00:01:44 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 
p4
Jan 16 00:01:46 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte hdwr 
sectors (131 MB)
Jan 16 00:01:46 localhost kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 16 00:01:46 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 
p4
Jan 16 00:01:49 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte hdwr 
sectors (131 MB)
Jan 16 00:01:49 localhost kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 16 00:01:49 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 
p4
Jan 16 00:01:52 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte hdwr 
sectors (131 MB)
Jan 16 00:01:52 localhost kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 16 00:01:52 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 
p4
Jan 16 00:01:55 localhost kernel: SCSI device sda: 256000 512-byte hdwr 
sectors (131 MB)
Jan 16 00:01:55 localhost kernel: sda: Write Protect is off
Jan 16 00:01:55 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 
p4
and so on...
My computer was in a loop, and when I ran "top", I discovered a program which 
was running over an over again eating 50% of cpu time: drakupdate_fsta.
How I stoped the loop? I should rename /usr/sbin/drakupdate_fsta to 
drakupdate_fsta.deactivated. The loop finished inmediatly.
And now this is the problem: If I want to use my sony mv128, I can't have a 
functional drakupdate_fsta.
My questions:
1. How can I avoid the loop with drakupdate_fsta when I plug in the sony mv 
128?
2. Is drakupdate_fsta a critical component of LM 9.0? Can my computer with LM 
9.0 live without it?
Thank you,
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Re: [expert] MNF vs SNF

2003-01-15 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jan 15, 2003 at 08:39:38PM +0100, JP wrote:

[...]
> > Yup.  You can use urpmi and use whatever mirror you like to get
> > updates.  This should be just as secure as the "for pay" mirror... ie.
> > md5sums are available and the file is GPG clearsigned.  RPM packages
> > can be validated via md5 and gpg sigs.
> 
> thank god, no micro$$$oft practices.

Absolutely not.  Thats not at all what we're intending to do.

> > The primary advantage to the for pay updates is you will have access to
> > them instantly.  I don't know what the infrastructure for the updates
> > is, but I imagine there will be next to no delay for updates... you
> > would get them almost immediately.  Relying on third-party mirrors
> > means a little bit of a delay, so it depends on how quickly you want
> > your firewall patched up (if speed is important to you, getting
> > "priority" updates may well be what you need/want).  You also wouldn't
> > have to worry about free mirrors being clogged when new distribs are
> > released... anyone try to update software the day of a new Mdk or RH
> > release?  Have fun getting into most public mirrors that week.
> 
> no problem for me :-)
> I must admit though that this may indeed be a serious problem to many
> people, certainly if it is about some critical security update.

Right.  And if it's important, then you should be willing to spend
money on it, no?  Look at it this way.  We can provide "priority" FTP
access to a mirror of our own if we really wanted to, but in the end
this costs us a *lot* of money.  Because everyone will want to use the
official FTP site.  So we pay bandwidth and whatnot for everyone to get
updates from us.  That's not a very good business model, especially
considering the current financial situation.

So, in order for you to get a service, you need to pay for it.  Now, I
don't know how much it costs, so I can't say if this something geared
more towards the corporate world or the personal user.  If you want
updates quickly from a secure source, you need to pay for the
privilege.  Otherwise, you deal with third-party mirrors that may or
may not be reliable, and that may have a few hours delay.  If it's
absolutely critical to you, you will pay.  This is not a new way of
doing business; many companies do similar to this.  Correct me if I'm
wrong, but I believe RH does something similar with their up2date
stuff.

[...]
> > Nope, not at all.  You're paying for access to a private FTP site.  The
> > updates themself are "free"; meaning publically available to anyone who
> > wants them.  Access to the private FTP site is the real issue here.
> > 
> > I agree that it wasn't clearly worded, so I hope this provides a little
> > less confusion for those who would like to use MNF but have some
> > reservations thinking you might be charged for security updates.
> 
> it does clarify alot indeed. 

Ok good... =)

> as for the 'delay' one experiences when using mirror sites, I guess it
> basically comes down to what one uses the box for.
> 
> a home user will generally care less about such things, and also have a
> smaller budget than say a corporate it department guy. apart from that,
> mnf like snf is to be used as a firewall/nat router. once properly setup,
> such a machine should not be running any services except a (local lan
> only) sshd, leaving virtually no possiblities for intrusion but the ssh
> packages (or a highly unlikely kernel networking related bug).
> 
> in the end, it's all about priorities ;-)

Exactly.  And you get what you pay for.  If you pay nothing, don't sit
back, do nothing, and complain that you got nothing.  =)

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Re: [expert] "Removable Media" icon

2003-01-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 23:31, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> On Wednesday January 15 2003 03:30 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > Still like my two methods.
> >
> > If I use KDE in control center -> Look n Feel -> Desktop.  Uncheck
> > enable desktop Icons.
> >
> > otherwise ... I use iceWM. *grin*.
> >
> > James
>
>That's been my solution for a long time. Even before that option
> existed and it took some hacking to get rid of icons ... useless as
> they are. Who wants a bunch of redundant icons (everything's already
> on the menus) cluttering up an otherwise perfectly good desktop ;)

I (and the kids) do when I've installed games (i.e. Loki's Mindrover & Kohan) 
or lately 'blender' who don't appear in the menu's.

The 'skulls&bones" (my own brew) as a shutdown icon is a life(fsck) saver too.
If Icewm offered me icons it'd be our default desktop in a flash, it's my 
personal favorite, but then I know (by heart) what's installed and what's 
not.

Xfce is rising fast in the polls lately too though...over here.=:o)

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Re: [expert] evolution 1.2

2003-01-15 Thread Todd Lyons
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Aaron Matteson wrote on Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 02:02:21PM -0800 :
> Tools menu -> Settings Option -> Mail Accounts -> Choose Your Account ->
> Edit -> Identity Tab -> Optional Information @ Bottom -> Default
> Signature

Aaron, do you think you could upload your public key to
wwwkeys.us.pgp.net and/or www.keyserver.net?

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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 13:38 -0800, Todd Lyons wrote:
> 
> Speaking only for myself and not as representative of the company
> because I don't know a great deal of what's going on.
> 
> Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote on Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 09:26:10PM +0100 :
> > I am very sad by the notices about Mandrake bankrupt. 
> 
> Guys this is not the mailing list for this discussion.  So I will end it
> with the obvious:
>   bankruptcy PROTECTION != bankrupt
> 
> Chapter 11 is bankruptcy protection.  Google for it if you need more
> info.

Of course, we all know that. In the newsgroup and here were some kind
souls to explain what Chapter 11 and the french equivalent (which is
what MandrakeSoft applied for) really mean.

But one thing is sure: there will be changes. And as long as we don't
know which changes are to come all discussion here is void and only
based on speculations.

I have a very strong interest in seeing MandrakeSoft alive because I'd
have to find a contract with some other project if my contract with
MandrakeSoft will go down the drain.

I have a much stronger interest in seeing MandrakeSoft alive because I
really like it and after trying Caldera, Red Hat and SuSE it was the
#1 for me since 5.3.

So let's all keep calm and wait what comes out of this newest move
from MandrakeSoft. 

Any "Mandrake should have this and Mandrake should have not done
that!" is obsolete now and only interesting for history geeks.

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Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it 's d ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Jan 15, 2003 at 03:35:52PM -0500, Tibbetts, Ric wrote:

[...]
> >Here's something to think about, what if the portsentry didnt get
> >completely 
> >removed, and left some cruft.. some of which happens to be blocking port
> >25
> 
> What & where?
> I took portsentry out of the startup, and rebooted the box. So it was 
> never run. I've also gone in, and tried "taming" it, to NOT block TCP 

rpm -e portsentry

If you're not using it, get rid of it, entirely.

Check /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} make sure there is nothing in there
restricting port 25.

Execute "iptables -L|grep smtp; iptables -L|grep 25" and see if you
have any entries in there; see if iptables has blocked it.  I've never
played with bastille for a firewall, so have no clue how "solid" that
is.

Finally, "netstat -l --tcp -p".  This will tell you what program is
listening on what TCP port.  Make sure something is listening to port
25 (and *not* to localhost.localdomain:25, but to eth0 or whatever your
interface is), and see if it's postfix.

Sending mail out is no tricky feat.  More often that not, programs will
use /usr/sbin/sendmail or /usr/lib/sendmail directly... the ability to
send mail out does not determine whether or not an MTA is running; not
definitively anyways.

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Re: [expert] "Removable Media" icon

2003-01-15 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Wednesday January 15 2003 03:30 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Still like my two methods.
>
> If I use KDE in control center -> Look n Feel -> Desktop.  Uncheck
> enable desktop Icons.
>
> otherwise ... I use iceWM. *grin*.
>
> James

   That's been my solution for a long time. Even before that option 
existed and it took some hacking to get rid of icons ... useless as 
they are. Who wants a bunch of redundant icons (everything's already 
on the menus) cluttering up an otherwise perfectly good desktop ;)
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Re: [expert] OT network backup solutions

2003-01-15 Thread kwan

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 00:28, Mark Belanger wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a backup solution for
> a fairly large(300 node) heterogeneous network.
> 
> We currently have Solaris, Windows, Linux, SunOS,
> and DomainOS machines.

Arkeia (commercial) and Amanda come to mind. For non-Linux backup 
servers I've used Veritas' NetBackup. It has clients for most OSes. 

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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread James Sparenberg
One point ... they take out the "fee" monthly from my card.  Now if the
company fails... they can't take out the fee and or I can stop payment
through my ccard company.  So if I pay.. I get the service until the
service is no more, and then I don't pay.

James


On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 12:26, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:
> I am very sad by the notices about Mandrake bankrupt. I hoped that the Club 
> development could be a good new commercial model for Mandrake; I am a silver 
> member and I have also bought a PowerPack to Mandrake Store.
> 
> I am actually very happy with the 9.0 (also I was with 7.0, 7.2, 8.0 and 8.2), 
> I have tested other distributions, but I don't know mailing-list as actives 
> as the Mandrake ones (newbie, expert, cooker and this almost dead 
> crashtesters) and I have ever found solutions for my problems thanks to the 
> help of lot of Mandrake users ^_^; in fact I have never needed the 60 days 
> Mandrake official help for my bought packages of the different distributions.
> 
> My Mandrake Club will expire in more or less a month, I was decided to renove 
> it, but now I am in a trouble. Will Mandrake dissapear and due to that I will 
> lost the money and the services of the club? or this will help Mandrake to 
> survive?
> 
> I actually don't know what to do???
> 
> I am testing 9.1 beta and it looks pretty to a first beta... I will be a pity 
> to lost the 9.1..
> 
> 



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RE: [expert] vfat mounting

2003-01-15 Thread Jane
Title: RE: [expert] vfat mounting






Add 

mode=0600 

to the fstab entry


-Original Message-

From: Jack Coates [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:13 PM

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: [expert] vfat mounting



I've got a removable media device (sony memorystick) formatted as vfat

which I'm mounting as my home of tiny super-secret stuff like gnupg and

figaro's password manager. The problem is that it insists on mounting

with some overgenerous permissions:

[jack@chupacabra jack]$ grep crypto /etc/fstab

/dev/sda1 /home/jack/.crypto vfat

user,iocharset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,exec 1 2

[jack@chupacabra jack]$ ls -la | grep .crypto

drwxrwxr-x    4 jack jack    16384 Dec 31  1969 .crypto/


I've been reading the mount and umask man pages and STFWing, but I can't

figure out how to make it mount with reduced permissions... something

like 600 would be more like it.

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Re: [expert] OT network backup solutions

2003-01-15 Thread Seth Zirin
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 00:28, Mark Belanger wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a backup solution for
> a fairly large(300 node) heterogeneous network.
> 
> We currently have Solaris, Windows, Linux, SunOS,
> and DomainOS machines.

Hire an MIS department?

Seth




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Re: [expert] evolution 1.2

2003-01-15 Thread Jack Coates
thanks. Didn't expect that it would have overridden the old info in that
field just because it has a new option available, but hey, whatever.

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 14:02, Aaron Matteson wrote:
> Tools menu -> Settings Option -> Mail Accounts -> Choose Your Account ->
> Edit -> Identity Tab -> Optional Information @ Bottom -> Default
> Signature
> 
> On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 14:04, Jack Coates wrote:
> > upgraded to Ximian's version 1.2 today so I could use Exchange
> > Connector... Anyone know how to tell it that you don't want
> > autogenerated signatures??
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Re: [expert] printer driver in samba

2003-01-15 Thread Buchan Milne
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Norman Zhang wrote:

> Hi Buchan and All,
>
> I have appended my smb.conf at the bottom of this email for you to review.
> Your comments are greatly appreciated. I have also appended some additional
> info of my LM9.0 system.
>


Did you join the domain? I assume it's a windows (NT or 2k?) domain?

See comments below

> Regards,
> Norman
>
> ::: BTW, process is like this, browse to the Printers share on the
> ::: machine, right-click the printer, choose properties, say no when
> ::: offered to install a driver, click advanced, choose "New Driver".
> ::
> :: I do have printer_admin = @"MYNTDOMAIN\Print Admins", root. I also
> :: set my Print Admins to be the primary group for the operators. I
> :: also tried the process you described, but I still got access denied.
> :: Does this have to do with CUPS? Do I need to use cupsaddsmb? But I
> :: can't find the PPD from CUPS. They were available in the CUPS web
> :: config.
> :
> : No, if you use the cupsaddsmb, you end up using generic ps drivers on
> : the windows clients, in most cases you want the windows driver to be
> : installed there.
>
> Thank you. I guess I won't proceed with cupsaddsmb further.
>
> ::: Well, you should also have some directories under there such as
> ::: W32X86 etc. Check the perms of those, and also ensure the share has
> ::: enabled write for whoever is trying to upload drivers.
> ::
> :: All subfolder are there. It is 755 for all subfolders. The
> :: subfolders were created by Mandrake by default. I even did a
> :: setfacl -m g:"ARKONDOMAIN\Print Admins":rwx /var/lib/samba/printers,
> :: and gave rx access for all parent folders. But still unsuccessful 8(
> :: Please help.
> :
> : You need write access to the folders *below* /var/lib/samba/printers, so
> : try:
> : # setfacl -d -m g:"ARKONDOMAIN\Print Admins":rwx /var/lib/samba/printers
> :
> :: Regards,
> :: Norman
> :
> : It might help to send me your whole smb.conf so I can see exactly how
> : you are setup.
>
> I tried changing the winbind separator to \

The default is "\", comment it out rather, as it's quite difficult to get
it right (you must have the quotes). Also, for ACLs etc, it might be
worthwhile disabling 'winbind use default domain', at least to test ...


> # Samba config file created using SWAT
> # from 0.0.0.0 (0.0.0.0)
> # Date: 2003/01/14 14:44:12
>
> # Global parameters
> [global]
>  workgroup = ARKONDOMAIN
>  netbios name = PRNSERVER
>  server string = Samba Server %v
>  security = DOMAIN
>  encrypt passwords = Yes
>  obey pam restrictions = Yes
>  password server = PDCSERVER
>  log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
>  max log size = 50
>  socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
>  printcap name = cups
>  character set = ISO8859-15
>  os level = 18
>  preferred master = No
>  local master = No
>  domain master = No
>  dns proxy = No
>  winbind uid = 1-2
>  winbind gid = 1-2
>  template shell = /bin/bash

First try uncommenting just this:
>  winbind separator = +
Then this:
>  winbind use default domain = Yes
THis looks ok ...
>  printer admin = root, @"ARKONDOMAIN\Print Admins"
>  printing = cups
This looks a bit suspect ... the one below for your hp5p loks right
>  print command = lp -d %p -o raw %s; rm -f %s
>
> [hp5p]
>  comment = HP LaserJet 5P--Show Room
You should use /var/spool/samba here unless you reall know what you are
doing. Anyway, in most cases you don't need per-printer config, unless
your printing defaults (in [printers]) are wrong.
 >  path = /var/spool/samba/hp5p
>  guest ok = Yes
>  printable = Yes
>  print command = lpr-cups -P %p -o raw %s
>  printer name = hp5p
>

This looks fine, don't know what you need the dos filetimes for though ..
> [print$]
>  comment = Printer Drivers
>  path = /var/lib/samba/printers
>  write list = root, @"ARKONDOMAIN\Print Admins"
>  guest ok = Yes
>  dos filetimes = Yes
>
> [printers]
>  comment = All Printers
>  path = /var/spool/samba
>  guest ok = Yes
>  printable = Yes
>  browseable = No
>
> 
>
> [root@prn root]# setfacl -d -m g:"Print Admins":rwx /var/lib/samba/printers/
> [root@prn root]# getfacl /var/lib/samba/printers
> getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
> # file: var/lib/samba/printers
> # owner: root
> # group: root
> user::rwx
> group::r-x
> group:Print Admins:rwx
> mask::rwx
> other::r-x
> default:user::rwx
> default:group::r-x
> default:group:Print Admins:rwx
> default:mask::rwx
> default:other::r-x
>
> [root@prn root]# smbstatus
>
> Samba version 2.2.7
> Service  uid  gid  pid machine
> --
> IPC$ ARKONDOMAIN+domainadmin ARKONDOMAIN+Print Admins  5178
> 2139-1-20 (192.168.22.34) Tue Jan 14 14:45:23 2003
> IPC$ ARKONDOMAIN+domainadmin ARKONDOMAIN+Print Admins  5178
> 2139-1-20 (192.168.22.34) Tue Jan 14 14:44:49 2003
>
> No locked files
>
> [root@prn printers]# ls -l
> total 20
> drwxrwxr-x2 root root6 Nov 25 10:15 W32ALPHA/
> drw

Re: [expert] evolution 1.2

2003-01-15 Thread Aaron Matteson
Tools menu -> Settings Option -> Mail Accounts -> Choose Your Account ->
Edit -> Identity Tab -> Optional Information @ Bottom -> Default
Signature

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 14:04, Jack Coates wrote:
> upgraded to Ximian's version 1.2 today so I could use Exchange
> Connector... Anyone know how to tell it that you don't want
> autogenerated signatures??
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Re: [expert] Custom Man-pages

2003-01-15 Thread James Sparenberg
Two sources of info.

1. man troff
2.  http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Man-Page.html

James

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 11:00, Jim C wrote:
> Lets say that you have a package that does not install manpages or that 
> you want to install some of your own manpages for users to look at.  How 
> might a person go about doing this?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[expert] vfat mounting

2003-01-15 Thread Jack Coates
I've got a removable media device (sony memorystick) formatted as vfat
which I'm mounting as my home of tiny super-secret stuff like gnupg and
figaro's password manager. The problem is that it insists on mounting
with some overgenerous permissions:
[jack@chupacabra jack]$ grep crypto /etc/fstab
/dev/sda1 /home/jack/.crypto vfat
user,iocharset=iso8859-1,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,exec 1 2
[jack@chupacabra jack]$ ls -la | grep .crypto
drwxrwxr-x4 jack jack16384 Dec 31  1969 .crypto/

I've been reading the mount and umask man pages and STFWing, but I can't
figure out how to make it mount with reduced permissions... something
like 600 would be more like it.
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Re: [expert] Recognition of Todd Lyons

2003-01-15 Thread David Robertson
On 15 Jan 2003 11:49:18 -0500
Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I want to make an official appeal to the Mandrake management to keep
> Todd Lyons securely in the company, in the recent light of current
> events regarding the Chapter 11.
> 
> Todd Lyons has been an incredible asset to the Expert list, helping
> countless users with their problems and concerns.  It would be a
> terrible loss to Mandrake and an even more terrible loss to all Mandrake
> users were anything to happen that would force him to seek other
> employment.  We want him around and we want him to stay.
> 
> Civileme was a huge asset to all of us here in North America, as well as
> the rest of the world.  We don't want the same thing to happen to Todd
> Lyons.  If this concerns you now is the time to make your support known.
> 
> Thank you, Todd.
> 
> LX  

Count me in too - Todd is an invaluable contributor to this list, symbolic of the 
whole ethos of GNU/Linux. His advice, and that of others, has helped me out of many a 
scrape. It would be a great loss for Mandrake users if he went, tho' I daresay a great 
gain for some other list.

David

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Re: Re: Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues(it's d ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 14:01, Chuck Burns wrote:
> On Wed, January 15 2003 3:42 pm, Robert Goshko wrote:
> *snip*
> > woman = evil
> Or, in the reverse..
> Man = 4
> Woman = 2
> man + woman = 6
> 6 sounds a lot like something else.. that's fun

Or as The Pixies would have it, "and if the man is five, and if the
devil is six, and if god is seven, this monkey's gone to heaven"
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Re: [expert] Recognition of Todd Lyons

2003-01-15 Thread James Sparenberg
Yes I agree Keeping guys like Todd is paramount to success.  90% of
any companies intellectual property can best be found between the left
and right ear of it's employee's.  

As for the Chapter 11 (or rather the French equivalent.) Info can be
found 
http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/2405
http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=192
and

http://newsforge.com/newsforge/03/01/10/2131224.shtml?tid=3

The only other thing I can say is... People keeps copies of the code. 
The thought of being relegated to Blue is a scary thought indeed.

James

 

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 12:17, Jason Greenwood wrote:
> Todd Rocks, nuff said.
> 
> Thanks for all you've done..
> 
> H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > On Wednesday 15 January 2003 16:49, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> >   
> > > I want to make an official appeal to the Mandrake management to keep
> > > Todd Lyons securely in the company, in the recent light of current
> > > events regarding the Chapter 11.
> > > 
> > > Todd Lyons has been an incredible asset to the Expert list, helping
> > > countless users with their problems and concerns.  It would be a
> > > terrible loss to Mandrake and an even more terrible loss to all Mandrake
> > > users were anything to happen that would force him to seek other
> > > employment.  We want him around and we want him to stay.
> > > 
> > > Civileme was a huge asset to all of us here in North America, as well as
> > > the rest of the world.  We don't want the same thing to happen to Todd
> > > Lyons.  If this concerns you now is the time to make your support known.
> > > 
> > > Thank you, Todd.
> > > 
> > > LX
> > > 
> > 
> > I second that wholeheartedly.
> > Where would we be without all those blues skies
> > 
> > HarM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
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[expert] evolution 1.2

2003-01-15 Thread Jack Coates
upgraded to Ximian's version 1.2 today so I could use Exchange
Connector... Anyone know how to tell it that you don't want
autogenerated signatures??

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Re: Re: Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it's d ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Chuck Burns
On Wed, January 15 2003 3:42 pm, Robert Goshko wrote:
*snip*
>   woman = evil
Or, in the reverse..
Man = 4
Woman = 2
man + woman = 6
6 sounds a lot like something else.. that's fun
-- 
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Man = Mars = 4th planet from Sun = 4
Woman = Venus = 2nd planet from Sun = 2
Man - Woman = -2 = Man divorce wife = less than he started with



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Re: Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues(it's d ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Robert Goshko
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 13:18, Chuck Burns wrote:

> Man = Mars = 4th planet from Sun = 4
> Woman = Venus = 2nd planet from Sun = 2
> Man - Woman = -2 = Man divorce wife = less than he started with

Is this "new" math?  Last I checked 4 - 2 = 2 ;)

But women are evil:

Every man knows that to have a women, you need time and money:

women = time * money

We all know that time is money:

time = money

From this, we get:

women = money * money = money ^ 2

Another fact, money is the root of evil:
  __
money = \/ evil

So from this we get:
__
woman = ( \/ evil  ) ^ 2

Hence:

woman = evil

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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.1beta1 screen shots

2003-01-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 21:34, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Yep did forget that step... xfs needs to be restarted AND you need
> to change fonts.  To either xft or TTF fonts The ugly old ones still
> look ugly in many cases.
>
> James

True, but now that I've reset my fonts-->I have to do "uname -a" to find out 
where I am.
Oh well, life's no bed of roses=:o)

Thanks for the tips, James.

Good luck,
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Re: [expert] Recognition of Todd Lyons

2003-01-15 Thread James Sparenberg
Here Here!

On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 11:08, Azrael wrote:
> Can we combine this vote with the vote for what's in 9.1?
> I vote Todd is bundled in with 9.1 so everyone gets to use him, even if
> they aren't on the list. ;)
> 
> On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 07:01, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > On Wednesday 15 January 2003 01:56 pm, Ken Thompson wrote:
> > 
> > > I'd like to add my Nickles worth also. I Cast a vote to keep Todd onboard.
> > > Thanks for all your help Todd.
> > 
> > Absolutely. Count my vote as well! :-)



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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread Todd Lyons
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Speaking only for myself and not as representative of the company
because I don't know a great deal of what's going on.

Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote on Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 09:26:10PM +0100 :
> I am very sad by the notices about Mandrake bankrupt. 

Guys this is not the mailing list for this discussion.  So I will end it
with the obvious:
  bankruptcy PROTECTION != bankrupt

Chapter 11 is bankruptcy protection.  Google for it if you need more
info.

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Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it 'sd ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Weaver
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Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
| Chuck Burns wrote:
|
|> On Wed, January 15 2003 1:53 pm, Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
|> *snip*
|>
|>> I agree that port 25 is dead. The question is: Why & How?
|>>
|>> The line in /etc/services is fine. It's uncommented.
|>> smtp IS included in bastille-firewall.cfg
|>> postfix "is" running.
|>>
|>> I have no clue as to what closed that port! And I've rebooted a couple
|>
|>
|>
|>> of times. So what ever is doing it, is persistant!
|>
|>
|>
|> Here's something to think about, what if the portsentry didnt get
|> completely removed, and left some cruft.. some of which happens to be
|> blocking port
|> 25
|
|
| What & where?
| I took portsentry out of the startup, and rebooted the box. So it was
| never run. I've also gone in, and tried "taming" it, to NOT block TCP
| and 25 is still solidly closed.
|
| "something" "somewhere" is closing 25. And possibly 110 (Mark, when you
| did your scan, was 110 open?)

yeah...110 was definately open. I did a second scan and now the only port that
is showing closed is port 25. 110 and 143 are both open.

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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.1beta1 screen shots

2003-01-15 Thread James Sparenberg
Yep did forget that step... xfs needs to be restarted AND you need
to change fonts.  To either xft or TTF fonts The ugly old ones still
look ugly in many cases.  

James


On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 09:44, Mark Belanger wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 11:29, Mark Weaver wrote:
> > On Wednesday 15 January 2003 08:59 am, Mark Belanger scribbled nervously:
> > > > James,
> > > >
> > > > Did you have to upgrade your glibc libraries to shoe-horn these packages
> > > > in?
> > >
> > > I grabbed the src rpm and rebuilt it.
> > >
> > > -Mark
> > 
> > I didn't. I upgraded glibc and the lot of them. glibc went in very cleanly, 
> > but I didn't see a change in the font appearance at all. :(
> 
> Did you reboot or at least restart X?
> 
> -Mark



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Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it's d ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Todd Lyons
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Mark Weaver wrote on Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 03:37:38PM -0500 :
> 
> this is likely the weirdest problem I've ever seen. Its probably the most 
> persistant mystery yet! I'm absolutely drawing a blank here.

service iptables stop
rm /etc/sysconfig/iptables
chkconfig iptables off

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Re: [expert] Mandrake 9.1beta1 screen shots

2003-01-15 Thread James Sparenberg
No ... The only one from Cooker was the Freetype2 and it went in without
complaint.  The others are either 9.0 stock or from texstar, and built
for 9.0  Otherwise the box is up2date on all rpms from MDK.

James

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> On Wednesday 15 January 2003 04:36 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > Ok,  The following is on my box.
> >
> > For freetype I've installed
> >
> > freetype-1.3.1-17mdk
> > freetype-tools-1.3.1-17mdk
> > freetype2-2.1.3-2mdk
> >
> > The last one is from cooker the freetype2 in 9.0 is seriously out of
> > date. (actually older than the one in 8.2!)
> >
> > then I went to
> > http://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/linux/distri
> >butions/mandrake/9.0/rpms/
> >
> > And grabed some stuff from Texstar (dispite the complaints he does do
> > some nice stuff.)
> >
> > http://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/linux/distri
> >butions/mandrake/9.0/rpms/
> >
> 
> James,
> 
> Did you have to upgrade your glibc libraries to shoe-horn these packages in?
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Re: Re: [expert] "Removable Media" icon

2003-01-15 Thread James Sparenberg
Still like my two methods.  

If I use KDE in control center -> Look n Feel -> Desktop.  Uncheck
enable desktop Icons.

otherwise ... I use iceWM. *grin*.

James


On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 11:36, Chuck Burns wrote:
> On Wed, January 15 2003 1:26 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> *snip*
> > 
> > Hey Todd. I did it by editing the /usr/bin/kdesktop-links file (per the 
> > Mandrake  Experience web site).
> > 
> > Are there advantages/disadvantages to either method? Or is this another 
> > example of the "many ways to do things" under Linux genre? 
> > 
> > See ya!
> > 
> I just fiddled around with it, looking in all scripts I could find that might 
> have anything to do with kde and the desktop, and I found the file, all by 
> myself, after the suggestion someone else gave me to just delete it, didnt 
> work.



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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread Miark
Ken,

Don't be passive. If you, Ken Hawkins, want Mandrakesoft to prosper,
then you Ken Hawkins, should do what you can to see that happen. I'm
no suggesting taking out a bank loan to donate to Mandrake, but if
you had already planned on renewing your subscription, then you
should do so.

If you don't, on the other hand, you'll be adding to their financial
challenges--challenges that may force Mandrakesoft to let go of great
people. I don't know about you, but I'd rather be part of the
solution than part of the problem--even if I lose my stupid club
membership money.

And forget about pointing fingers at management. The current
financial woes are the remains of the old management, not the new.
Mistakes were made; mistakes were corrected--end of story. The only
question now is what we can do to help. 

Remember Kennedy's, "Ask not what your country can do for you--ask
what you can do for your country."? It's the same thing.

Renew your membership.

Miark




On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:47:23 +
Ken Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I also have a silver membership that I will have to seriously consider 
> allowing to lapse..too bad.
> 
> My question is where the problem originated. After the recent CEO/ scandals in 
> the US, I begin to be suspicious of the management team at MandrakeSoft ( or 
> any corporation for that matter). Were they a group of suits who SUPPOSEDLY 
> knew about raising capital? What are they being paid? What colour is their 
> parachute?
> 
> Far too often in the last decade, businesses needing to raise funds to grow 
> have fallen victim to scammers who wring them dry, drive them into the 
> ground, then receive parting bonuses for this "service". 
> 
> I have played with a lot of distro's, and I believe that Mandrake is the best 
> all-around. The guru's such as Civileme and Todd, and the community support 
> on this list are second-to-none. 
> 
> Senior managers MUST be held to account. If Mandrake keeps management, but 
> releases tech staff, then I will no longer support them with my dollars.
> 
> Sorry for my rant, but too many good people have been paying the price for bad 
> decisions by jack-asses.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday 15 January 2003 08:26 pm, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:
> > I am very sad by the notices about Mandrake bankrupt. I hoped that the Club
> > development could be a good new commercial model for Mandrake; I am a
> > silver member and I have also bought a PowerPack to Mandrake Store.
> >
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it's d ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Weaver
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Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
| Mark Weaver wrote:
|
|> Chuck Burns wrote:
|>
|>> On Wed, January 15 2003 1:53 pm, Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
|>> *snip*
|>>
|>>
|>>> I agree that port 25 is dead. The question is: Why & How?
|>>>
|>>> The line in /etc/services is fine. It's uncommented.
|>>> smtp IS included in bastille-firewall.cfg
|>>> postfix "is" running.
|>>>
|>>> I have no clue as to what closed that port! And I've rebooted a couple
|>>
|>
|>
|>>> of times. So what ever is doing it, is persistant!
|>>
|>>
|>>
|>> Here's something to think about, what if the portsentry didnt get
|>
|>
|> completely
|>
|>> removed, and left some cruft.. some of which happens to be blocking
|>
|>
|> port 25
|>
|> this is likely the weirdest problem I've ever seen. Its probably the
|> most persistant mystery yet! I'm absolutely drawing a blank here.
|>
|
| Mark:
| What's in your /etc/xinetd.d ?
|
| Ric

here's a list of the files in that dir:

chargen  cvs  echo  imaps  leafnode   rsync swat
chargen-udp  daytime  echo-udp  ipop2  linuxconf-web  servers   time
cups-lpd daytime-udp  imap  ipop3  pop3s  services  time-udp

don't know if this'll help or not. hope it does...
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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread et
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 08:04 am, Ken Hawkins wrote:
> I certainly don't want Mandrake to fail; what I want is an idea of whether
> my money is going to developers and product improvement, or to some suit's
> Caymen Island bank account..
> Ken
well that is the "best part" about Chapt. 11, you get to have lawyers and 
judges looking over everthing to make sure it seems fair to the folks owed 
the money, and that owing the money was fair too. and if it ain't fair, just 
cause some manager who was here 3 years ago signed the contract, if it ain't 
fair, then the judges have the responsibility of saying to someone"get 
over it". At least in the bankruptcy courts I have been in*, the judges 
seemed to feel that if you had money to loan you had money to loose, and that 
forgiveness was the responsibility of the "least fair".




* and it weren't for my being broke, it was companies (and individuals) owing 
me and claiming bankruptcy.


> On Wednesday 15 January 2003 08:58 pm, Damon Lynch wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 01:47, Ken Hawkins wrote:
> > > I also have a silver membership that I will have to seriously consider
> > > allowing to lapse..too bad.
> >
> > Yes, if enough people think like that, Mandrake will go down.  If on the
> > other hand they don't, it will survive and one day prosper.  Like it or
> > not many of us are part of the "herd" where the herd goes, we go.
> > Thus, it's partly up to people like you.  We've got to think with the
> > bigger picture in mind.
> >
> > Damon



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Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it's d ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
Tibbetts, Ric wrote:

Mark Weaver wrote:


Chuck Burns wrote:



On Wed, January 15 2003 1:53 pm, Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
*snip*




I agree that port 25 is dead. The question is: Why & How?

The line in /etc/services is fine. It's uncommented.
smtp IS included in bastille-firewall.cfg
postfix "is" running.

I have no clue as to what closed that port! And I've rebooted a


couple




of times. So what ever is doing it, is persistant!



Here's something to think about, what if the portsentry didnt get


completely 


removed, and left some cruft.. some of which happens to be blocking


port 25

this is likely the weirdest problem I've ever seen. Its probably the
most 
persistant mystery yet! I'm absolutely drawing a blank here.



Mark:
What's in your /etc/xinetd.d ?

Ric


Would running (say) "msec 1" help clear this up? Possibly just having 
msec run through the settings, may shake this loose?

Anyone care to venture a guess?

Just a slim hope...

Ric


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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread Ken Hawkins
I certainly don't want Mandrake to fail; what I want is an idea of whether my 
money is going to developers and product improvement, or to some suit's 
Caymen Island bank account..
Ken

On Wednesday 15 January 2003 08:58 pm, Damon Lynch wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 01:47, Ken Hawkins wrote:
> > I also have a silver membership that I will have to seriously consider
> > allowing to lapse..too bad.
>
> Yes, if enough people think like that, Mandrake will go down.  If on the
> other hand they don't, it will survive and one day prosper.  Like it or
> not many of us are part of the "herd" where the herd goes, we go.
> Thus, it's partly up to people like you.  We've got to think with the
> bigger picture in mind.
>
> Damon



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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread Damon Lynch
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 01:47, Ken Hawkins wrote:
> I also have a silver membership that I will have to seriously consider 
> allowing to lapse..too bad.

Yes, if enough people think like that, Mandrake will go down.  If on the
other hand they don't, it will survive and one day prosper.  Like it or
not many of us are part of the "herd" where the herd goes, we go.   
Thus, it's partly up to people like you.  We've got to think with the
bigger picture in mind.

Damon
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Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it's d ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
Mark Weaver wrote:

Chuck Burns wrote:


On Wed, January 15 2003 1:53 pm, Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
*snip*



I agree that port 25 is dead. The question is: Why & How?

The line in /etc/services is fine. It's uncommented.
smtp IS included in bastille-firewall.cfg
postfix "is" running.

I have no clue as to what closed that port! And I've rebooted a couple




of times. So what ever is doing it, is persistant!



Here's something to think about, what if the portsentry didnt get


completely 

removed, and left some cruft.. some of which happens to be blocking


port 25

this is likely the weirdest problem I've ever seen. Its probably the
most 
persistant mystery yet! I'm absolutely drawing a blank here.


Mark:
What's in your /etc/xinetd.d ?

Ric


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Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it 'sd ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
Chuck Burns wrote:

On Wed, January 15 2003 1:53 pm, Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
*snip*


I agree that port 25 is dead. The question is: Why & How?

The line in /etc/services is fine. It's uncommented.
smtp IS included in bastille-firewall.cfg
postfix "is" running.

I have no clue as to what closed that port! And I've rebooted a couple




of times. So what ever is doing it, is persistant!



Here's something to think about, what if the portsentry didnt get
completely 
removed, and left some cruft.. some of which happens to be blocking port
25

What & where?
I took portsentry out of the startup, and rebooted the box. So it was 
never run. I've also gone in, and tried "taming" it, to NOT block TCP 
and 25 is still solidly closed.

"something" "somewhere" is closing 25. And possibly 110 (Mark, when you 
did your scan, was 110 open?)


But what... and where... and how...

Hey Mark:
What's in your /etc/xinetd.d ? Maybe I'm missing something?

Thanks !

	Ric

PS: I just did a test. I can send mail "out" from that box. I just won't 
take it in.


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Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread Ken Hawkins
I also have a silver membership that I will have to seriously consider 
allowing to lapse..too bad.

My question is where the problem originated. After the recent CEO/ scandals in 
the US, I begin to be suspicious of the management team at MandrakeSoft ( or 
any corporation for that matter). Were they a group of suits who SUPPOSEDLY 
knew about raising capital? What are they being paid? What colour is their 
parachute?

Far too often in the last decade, businesses needing to raise funds to grow 
have fallen victim to scammers who wring them dry, drive them into the 
ground, then receive parting bonuses for this "service". 

I have played with a lot of distro's, and I believe that Mandrake is the best 
all-around. The guru's such as Civileme and Todd, and the community support 
on this list are second-to-none. 

Senior managers MUST be held to account. If Mandrake keeps management, but 
releases tech staff, then I will no longer support them with my dollars.

Sorry for my rant, but too many good people have been paying the price for bad 
decisions by jack-asses.

Ken



On Wednesday 15 January 2003 08:26 pm, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote:
> I am very sad by the notices about Mandrake bankrupt. I hoped that the Club
> development could be a good new commercial model for Mandrake; I am a
> silver member and I have also bought a PowerPack to Mandrake Store.
>



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Re: [expert] And the fun continues (it's dead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Tibbetts, Ric


refuse a connection. the only other cause for the connection being
refused is if the service itself isn't running.



Ok, really dumb question, but I'm not leaving any stone unturned at


this 

point

"What service"? Which one?




if you're refering to which service it would be in the /etc/services
file then 
it would be port 25 smtp/tcp

Yeah, like I said, it was a dumb question.
And yes, it's there:

smtp 25/tcpSimple Mail Transfer
smtp 25/udpSimple Mail Transfer

It's also open in bastille-firewall.

portsentry isn't running.

.
.
.
.
.
.
.


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Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it's dead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Weaver
Chuck Burns wrote:

On Wed, January 15 2003 1:53 pm, Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
*snip*


I agree that port 25 is dead. The question is: Why & How?

The line in /etc/services is fine. It's uncommented.
smtp IS included in bastille-firewall.cfg
postfix "is" running.

I have no clue as to what closed that port! And I've rebooted a couple 
of times. So what ever is doing it, is persistant!


Here's something to think about, what if the portsentry didnt get completely 
removed, and left some cruft.. some of which happens to be blocking port 25

this is likely the weirdest problem I've ever seen. Its probably the most 
persistant mystery yet! I'm absolutely drawing a blank here.

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Re: [expert] And the fun continues (it's dead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Weaver
Tibbetts, Ric wrote:

Mark Weaver wrote:


Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
 > Mark Weaver wrote:
 >
 >> On Wednesday 15 January 2003 11:30 am, Tibbetts, Ric scribbled
 >> nervously:
 >>
 >>> Mark Weaver wrote:
 >>>
  On Wednesday 15 January 2003 10:57 am, Tibbetts, Ric scribbled
 
  nervously:
 
 > Sheesh! NOW, the server (firewall side) is just bulk
 > rejecting ALL
 
 >>
 >> connections
 >>
 > (again!). It considers any incoming mail as a SYN attack, and
 >
 
 >>
 >> rejects
 >>
 > it! (egads! I'm getting tired of this chase!). I thought I
 > had this sorted out...
 >
 > /var/log/messages is bing filled with messages like:
 
 
  [snip]
 
 
 > It's all incoming mail, that is not coming in!
 >
 > Any thoughts on WHY it would interpret all incoming
 > connections as
 
 >>
 >> an
 >>
 > attack? Anything not already blocked is interpreted as a SYN
 > attack,
 
 
  and
 
 
 > is rejected, and added to the list
 >
 > Thanks !
 >
 > Ric
 
 
  Ric,
 
  do yourself a huge favor and turnoff and uninstall PortSentry.
  He's
 >>>
 >>
 >> a
 >>
  tired old man with a serious bladder control problem. he sh*ts
  himself
 >>>
 >>
 >> from
 >>
  time to time as well. do that and you should be feeling a lot
  better.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> I shut it off when it started puking like that. THen I cleaned
 >>> out /etc/hosts/deny.
 >>>
 >>> But it's still not accepting any connections, it's just quieter
 >>> about it. It's just not receiving anything. When it did this the
 >>> other day, xinetd was down. I checked that... alls well there.
 >>> It's running.
 >>>
 >>> this is really getting frustrating! If I were 3000 miles closer,
 >>> I'd shoot the thing between it's transistors, and rebuild it. But
 >>> I'm just
 >>
 >>
 >> a
 >>
 >>> bit to far away for that.
 >>>
 >>> I can still ssh in, so at least I can work on it. But I'm lost as
 >>> to
 >>
 >>
 >> why
 >>
 >>> it started doing this again... It was fine, up until about a half
 >>>
 >>
 >>
 >> hour
 >>
 >>> ago.. Then it just stopped receiving connections. There's nothing
 >>> in
 >>
 >>
 >> the
 >>
 >>> logs.. I even tried the M$ method: Reboot.. no joy. It didn't
 >>> help.
 >>>
 >>> And stopping portsentry doesn't make any difference. It's not the
 >>> mail system either. I reverted back to the pre-spam
 >>
 >>
 >> filter
 >>
 >>> version. That didn't make any difference. It's just started
 >>> rejecting all connections.
 >>>
 >>> gotta be a reason
 >>>
 >>> Ric
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> well...this sounds horribly familiar, so I'll set to work trying to
 >>  recall what it was I was doing when this happened to me, and how I
 >>  handled the situation. damned thing of it I should have kept up my
 >>  journal of that period. there was a time when everything I touched
 >> on that machine turned to crap! it's not so bad now cause I've had
 >> a lot of practice. :)  don't worry though...it'll come to
 >> me...eventually.
 >
 >
 > Ok, let's get basic. It was running when I first checked on it this
 > morning. The spam filter was tight, so I loosened that up a little
 > (pure postfix config file stuff. NO systems level stuff). Then I
 > restarted postfix, and the server stopped receiving connections.
 >
 > I rebooted.
 >
 > Then portsentry went crazy on the reporting, and started rejecting
 > every incoming mail connection. (actually, I suspect that they were
 > being rejected anyway, there was no new mail coming in before that).
 >
 > The last time it started acting like that, xinetd wasn't running.
 > This time it is.
 >
 > The firewall is up. iptables is running.
 >
 > postfix is up
 >
 > I can "send" mail from it, and users from inside that network can
 > pass through it, so masq'ing is working right.
 >
 > Why is it rejecting ALL incoming e-Mail connections?
 >
 > And ONLY incoming e-Mail connections. I can ssh in, and the web
 > server is running, and allows connections...
 >
 > But any incoming e-Mail is interpreted as an attack, and rejected.
 >
 > Where is this coming from ?!?!  (portsentry is shut off. But I've
 > been running it a very long time. I've seldom found it the source of
 > the problem, on the messenger. Without it, I feel like I'm running a
 > bit blind...
 >
 > Any thoughts? Suggestions on where to look? WAGs?
 >
 > This server has been a super reliable server for the past 3 years.
 > It's been on 8.1 for a year or so, and has never caused any problems.
 >  Now all the sudden... I can't keep it running...
 >
 > HELP!
 >
 > Ric

Ric,

how is it you're certain that the connections to port 25 are being
interpreted as attacks on the system? apart from PortSentry I can't
think of anything else that would cause that port to be closed and
refuse a connection. the only other cause for the connection being
refused is if the service itself isn't running.



Ok, really dumb question, but I'm not leavi

[expert] It's official.

2003-01-15 Thread Praedor Tempus Atrebates
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Mandrake has officially filed for "Chapter 11".  Done deal.

Hopefully they will pull out of this reorganization of payments and...still 
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[expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?

2003-01-15 Thread Francisco Alcaraz Ariza
I am very sad by the notices about Mandrake bankrupt. I hoped that the Club 
development could be a good new commercial model for Mandrake; I am a silver 
member and I have also bought a PowerPack to Mandrake Store.

I am actually very happy with the 9.0 (also I was with 7.0, 7.2, 8.0 and 8.2), 
I have tested other distributions, but I don't know mailing-list as actives 
as the Mandrake ones (newbie, expert, cooker and this almost dead 
crashtesters) and I have ever found solutions for my problems thanks to the 
help of lot of Mandrake users ^_^; in fact I have never needed the 60 days 
Mandrake official help for my bought packages of the different distributions.

My Mandrake Club will expire in more or less a month, I was decided to renove 
it, but now I am in a trouble. Will Mandrake dissapear and due to that I will 
lost the money and the services of the club? or this will help Mandrake to 
survive?

I actually don't know what to do???

I am testing 9.1 beta and it looks pretty to a first beta... I will be a pity 
to lost the 9.1..



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Re: Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it's d ead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Chuck Burns
On Wed, January 15 2003 1:53 pm, Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
*snip*
> I agree that port 25 is dead. The question is: Why & How?
> 
> The line in /etc/services is fine. It's uncommented.
> smtp IS included in bastille-firewall.cfg
> postfix "is" running.
> 
> I have no clue as to what closed that port! And I've rebooted a couple 
> of times. So what ever is doing it, is persistant!

Here's something to think about, what if the portsentry didnt get completely 
removed, and left some cruft.. some of which happens to be blocking port 25

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Re: [expert] Recognition of Todd Lyons

2003-01-15 Thread Jason Greenwood




Todd Rocks, nuff said.

Thanks for all you've done..

H.J.Bathoorn wrote:

  On Wednesday 15 January 2003 16:49, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  
  
I want to make an official appeal to the Mandrake management to keep
Todd Lyons securely in the company, in the recent light of current
events regarding the Chapter 11.

Todd Lyons has been an incredible asset to the Expert list, helping
countless users with their problems and concerns.  It would be a
terrible loss to Mandrake and an even more terrible loss to all Mandrake
users were anything to happen that would force him to seek other
employment.  We want him around and we want him to stay.

Civileme was a huge asset to all of us here in North America, as well as
the rest of the world.  We don't want the same thing to happen to Todd
Lyons.  If this concerns you now is the time to make your support known.

Thank you, Todd.

LX

  
  
I second that wholeheartedly.
Where would we be without all those blues skies

HarM



  
  

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Re: [expert] MNF vs SNF

2003-01-15 Thread T E
OK I guess this clears some of the confusion... Still
wonder why MDK left it so vague though.  And you know
the funny thing?  Click on the "register your
firewall" when you first enter the MNF box and you're
directed to 

"The page /products/mnf/register you are looking for
is missing"

Then again, they are having a few internal problems. 
And while we're on the topic, does Chapter 11 affect
updates from mdk at all?  Or is it nearly entirely
based upon the open source community?

Now that I know that free updates are possible from a
license stand point, I'd hate to find out they aren't
feasible with the "new" company model...

Thanks for the replies guys...



--- JP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> deeg zun bes
> op schoal um hej te
> kinne schrieve:
> 
> > On Wed Jan 15, 2003 at 10:32:39AM +0100, JP wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > > it seems as if they try to get people to pay for
> the mnf updates,
> > > however, I dont think you will have to do so in
> order to get the
> > > updates. 
> > 
> > I can't speak officially on this as I'm not
> directly involved with MNF,
> > but after playing with it yesterday I do have some
> observations.
> > 
> > In order to use the web interface for updates, you
> will need to pay.  I
> > have no idea what the pricetag is.  I, as of yet,
> have no idea how well
> > the web interface works (I've been playing with
> MNF for less than 24hrs
> > now).
> > 
> > > first of all, i just checked a mandrake updates
> mirror and there is a
> > > seperate directory for mnf, that one could
> simply use (add to urpmi
> > > etc.) without mandrake even knowing it.
> > 
> > Yup.  You can use urpmi and use whatever mirror
> you like to get
> > updates.  This should be just as secure as the
> "for pay" mirror... ie.
> > md5sums are available and the file is GPG
> clearsigned.  RPM packages
> > can be validated via md5 and gpg sigs.
> 
> thank god, no micro$$$oft practices.
>  
> > The primary advantage to the for pay updates is
> you will have access to
> > them instantly.  I don't know what the
> infrastructure for the updates
> > is, but I imagine there will be next to no delay
> for updates... you
> > would get them almost immediately.  Relying on
> third-party mirrors
> > means a little bit of a delay, so it depends on
> how quickly you want
> > your firewall patched up (if speed is important to
> you, getting
> > "priority" updates may well be what you
> need/want).  You also wouldn't
> > have to worry about free mirrors being clogged
> when new distribs are
> > released... anyone try to update software the day
> of a new Mdk or RH
> > release?  Have fun getting into most public
> mirrors that week.
> 
> no problem for me :-)
> I must admit though that this may indeed be a
> serious problem to many
> people, certainly if it is about some critical
> security update.
>  
> > Anyways, you do not *need* to pay to have a fully
> functioning firewall
> > and the ability to do updates.  You will have to
> be familiar with urpmi
> > (or learn it) and log in remotely in order to do
> the updates, but once
> > you add whatever mirror you want to use, a simple
> "urpmi.update -a;
> > urpmi --auto-select" is enough to keep you up to
> date.
> > 
> > And no, there will be no "MNF updates go to public
> mirrors 24hrs after
> > they go to the for-pay mirror" stuff, so anyone
> worried about a delay
> > for non-paying people should not worry.  You just
> have to deal with the
> > mirroring schedules of the third-party mirrors.
> > 
> > If anyone ever wants to see how well mirrors keep
> up to date, there is
> > a fairly approximate listing on
> > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/ftp.php that will
> show you when the
> > last update was done.
> > 
> > > second, this mnf is basically a (heavily
> modified and stripped down)
> > > version of mandrake 8.2. for which updates are
> freely available. see
> > > also snf, which has a similar relationship to
> 7.2, with many packages
> > > in the snf update directory being a simlink to
> the 7.2 updates.
> > 
> > Yup, exactly.
> > 
> > > all in all a rather unclear situation, as by
> reading the mandrake
> > > website one would think you have to pay for
> security updates.
> > 
> > Nope, not at all.  You're paying for access to a
> private FTP site.  The
> > updates themself are "free"; meaning publically
> available to anyone who
> > wants them.  Access to the private FTP site is the
> real issue here.
> > 
> > I agree that it wasn't clearly worded, so I hope
> this provides a little
> > less confusion for those who would like to use MNF
> but have some
> > reservations thinking you might be charged for
> security updates.
> 
> it does clarify alot indeed. 
> 
> as for the 'delay' one experiences when using mirror
> sites, I guess it
> basically comes down to what one uses the box for.
> 
> a home user will generally care less about such
> things, and also have a
> smaller budget than say a corporate it department
> guy. apart from th

Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it's dead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
Mark Weaver wrote:

Ric

Um...a quick, sweet scan of your system proved to be very revealing. I
know 
exactly why your messages and in fact all messages are being
refuse...port 25 
and your other ports you're using for email in and out are all closed.
that 
would tend to explain a lot as to why you can't get messages in and out
of the 
place.

As far as I know there are only three things that can cause these ports
to 
close like this.

1) the firewall has closed these ports by dropping all packets going to
those 
ports.

2) the services aren't running...in this case Postfix.

3) the line in the /etc/services file that contains the reference to the
port 
and service has been commented out closing off the port and the service
which 
runs there upon.

this third item is the most perplexing in that this file has to be
edited 
manually. I don't know of any program that writes to this file in the
normal 
course of doing its thing.

You know??? it just occurred to me that you might not even see this
post! 
&%(_(ET$#%*(*^Y#@

Mark

I'm getting these. I'm using my work address for this discussion.

I agree that port 25 is dead. The question is: Why & How?

The line in /etc/services is fine. It's uncommented.
smtp IS included in bastille-firewall.cfg
postfix "is" running.

I have no clue as to what closed that port! And I've rebooted a couple 
of times. So what ever is doing it, is persistant!

BTW: I "can" get messages out. Just not in.

Ric

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Re: [expert] Recognition of Todd Lyons

2003-01-15 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 17:49, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> I want to make an official appeal to the Mandrake management to keep
> Todd Lyons securely in the company, in the recent light of current
> events regarding the Chapter 11.
>
Is chapter 11 official now ? 

> Todd Lyons has been an incredible asset to the Expert list, helping
> countless users with their problems and concerns.  It would be a
> terrible loss to Mandrake and an even more terrible loss to all Mandrake
> users were anything to happen that would force him to seek other
> employment.  We want him around and we want him to stay.
>
I will vote too, for me it was Tom Berger who made me addicted, but less than 
current mandrakestaff is not possible .

> Civileme was a huge asset to all of us here in North America, as well as
> the rest of the world.  We don't want the same thing to happen to Todd
> Lyons.  If this concerns you now is the time to make your support known.
>
> Thank you, Todd.
>
> LX

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Re: [expert] And the fun continues (it's dead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
Mark Weaver wrote:

Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
 > Mark Weaver wrote:
 >
 >> On Wednesday 15 January 2003 11:30 am, Tibbetts, Ric scribbled
 >> nervously:
 >>
 >>> Mark Weaver wrote:
 >>>
  On Wednesday 15 January 2003 10:57 am, Tibbetts, Ric scribbled
 
  nervously:
 
 > Sheesh! NOW, the server (firewall side) is just bulk
 > rejecting ALL
 
 >>
 >> connections
 >>
 > (again!). It considers any incoming mail as a SYN attack, and
 >
 
 >>
 >> rejects
 >>
 > it! (egads! I'm getting tired of this chase!). I thought I
 > had this sorted out...
 >
 > /var/log/messages is bing filled with messages like:
 
 
  [snip]
 
 
 > It's all incoming mail, that is not coming in!
 >
 > Any thoughts on WHY it would interpret all incoming
 > connections as
 
 >>
 >> an
 >>
 > attack? Anything not already blocked is interpreted as a SYN
 > attack,
 
 
  and
 
 
 > is rejected, and added to the list
 >
 > Thanks !
 >
 > Ric
 
 
  Ric,
 
  do yourself a huge favor and turnoff and uninstall PortSentry.
  He's
 >>>
 >>
 >> a
 >>
  tired old man with a serious bladder control problem. he sh*ts
  himself
 >>>
 >>
 >> from
 >>
  time to time as well. do that and you should be feeling a lot
  better.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> I shut it off when it started puking like that. THen I cleaned
 >>> out /etc/hosts/deny.
 >>>
 >>> But it's still not accepting any connections, it's just quieter
 >>> about it. It's just not receiving anything. When it did this the
 >>> other day, xinetd was down. I checked that... alls well there.
 >>> It's running.
 >>>
 >>> this is really getting frustrating! If I were 3000 miles closer,
 >>> I'd shoot the thing between it's transistors, and rebuild it. But
 >>> I'm just
 >>
 >>
 >> a
 >>
 >>> bit to far away for that.
 >>>
 >>> I can still ssh in, so at least I can work on it. But I'm lost as
 >>> to
 >>
 >>
 >> why
 >>
 >>> it started doing this again... It was fine, up until about a half
 >>>
 >>
 >>
 >> hour
 >>
 >>> ago.. Then it just stopped receiving connections. There's nothing
 >>> in
 >>
 >>
 >> the
 >>
 >>> logs.. I even tried the M$ method: Reboot.. no joy. It didn't
 >>> help.
 >>>
 >>> And stopping portsentry doesn't make any difference. It's not the
 >>> mail system either. I reverted back to the pre-spam
 >>
 >>
 >> filter
 >>
 >>> version. That didn't make any difference. It's just started
 >>> rejecting all connections.
 >>>
 >>> gotta be a reason
 >>>
 >>> Ric
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> well...this sounds horribly familiar, so I'll set to work trying to
 >>  recall what it was I was doing when this happened to me, and how I
 >>  handled the situation. damned thing of it I should have kept up my
 >>  journal of that period. there was a time when everything I touched
 >> on that machine turned to crap! it's not so bad now cause I've had
 >> a lot of practice. :)  don't worry though...it'll come to
 >> me...eventually.
 >
 >
 > Ok, let's get basic. It was running when I first checked on it this
 > morning. The spam filter was tight, so I loosened that up a little
 > (pure postfix config file stuff. NO systems level stuff). Then I
 > restarted postfix, and the server stopped receiving connections.
 >
 > I rebooted.
 >
 > Then portsentry went crazy on the reporting, and started rejecting
 > every incoming mail connection. (actually, I suspect that they were
 > being rejected anyway, there was no new mail coming in before that).
 >
 > The last time it started acting like that, xinetd wasn't running.
 > This time it is.
 >
 > The firewall is up. iptables is running.
 >
 > postfix is up
 >
 > I can "send" mail from it, and users from inside that network can
 > pass through it, so masq'ing is working right.
 >
 > Why is it rejecting ALL incoming e-Mail connections?
 >
 > And ONLY incoming e-Mail connections. I can ssh in, and the web
 > server is running, and allows connections...
 >
 > But any incoming e-Mail is interpreted as an attack, and rejected.
 >
 > Where is this coming from ?!?!  (portsentry is shut off. But I've
 > been running it a very long time. I've seldom found it the source of
 > the problem, on the messenger. Without it, I feel like I'm running a
 > bit blind...
 >
 > Any thoughts? Suggestions on where to look? WAGs?
 >
 > This server has been a super reliable server for the past 3 years.
 > It's been on 8.1 for a year or so, and has never caused any problems.
 >  Now all the sudden... I can't keep it running...
 >
 > HELP!
 >
 > Ric

Ric,

how is it you're certain that the connections to port 25 are being
interpreted as attacks on the system? apart from PortSentry I can't
think of anything else that would cause that port to be closed and
refuse a connection. the only other cause for the connection being
refused is if the service itself isn't running.



Ok, really dumb question, but I'm not leaving any stone unturned a

Re: [expert] How start sshd at boot time?

2003-01-15 Thread Todd Lyons
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Eduardo Mendes wrote on Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 05:48:03PM + :
> 
> > > I am using ssh-3.2.0.
> > > What am I doing wrong?
> > Ummm, using a non-Mandrake package.  We use openssh, not RSA's ssh.
> Does it mean that I am in trouible for not using Mandrake package?  Is
> there a workaround (not that one of removing ssh and installing
> openssh)?

No, not in trouble.  But you need to look and see what that ssh package
installs.  If it doesn't install something in /etc/rc.d/init.d or
/etc/init.d, you'll have to write your own init script or just add a
line to /etc/rc.d/rc.local to start the ssh server.  The syntax will
have to be determined by you along with any prerequisite directories or
libraries that it needs.

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Re: [expert] And the fun continues (it's dead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
Mark Weaver wrote:

Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
 > Mark Weaver wrote:
 >
 >> On Wednesday 15 January 2003 11:30 am, Tibbetts, Ric scribbled
 >> nervously:
 >>
 >>> Mark Weaver wrote:
 >>>
  On Wednesday 15 January 2003 10:57 am, Tibbetts, Ric scribbled
 
  nervously:
 
 > Sheesh! NOW, the server (firewall side) is just bulk
 > rejecting ALL
 
 >>
 >> connections
 >>
 > (again!). It considers any incoming mail as a SYN attack, and
 >
 
 >>
 >> rejects
 >>
 > it! (egads! I'm getting tired of this chase!). I thought I
 > had this sorted out...
 >
 > /var/log/messages is bing filled with messages like:
 
 
  [snip]
 
 
 > It's all incoming mail, that is not coming in!
 >
 > Any thoughts on WHY it would interpret all incoming
 > connections as
 
 >>
 >> an
 >>
 > attack? Anything not already blocked is interpreted as a SYN
 > attack,
 
 
  and
 
 
 > is rejected, and added to the list
 >
 > Thanks !
 >
 > Ric
 
 
  Ric,
 
  do yourself a huge favor and turnoff and uninstall PortSentry.
  He's
 >>>
 >>
 >> a
 >>
  tired old man with a serious bladder control problem. he sh*ts
  himself
 >>>
 >>
 >> from
 >>
  time to time as well. do that and you should be feeling a lot
  better.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> I shut it off when it started puking like that. THen I cleaned
 >>> out /etc/hosts/deny.
 >>>
 >>> But it's still not accepting any connections, it's just quieter
 >>> about it. It's just not receiving anything. When it did this the
 >>> other day, xinetd was down. I checked that... alls well there.
 >>> It's running.
 >>>
 >>> this is really getting frustrating! If I were 3000 miles closer,
 >>> I'd shoot the thing between it's transistors, and rebuild it. But
 >>> I'm just
 >>
 >>
 >> a
 >>
 >>> bit to far away for that.
 >>>
 >>> I can still ssh in, so at least I can work on it. But I'm lost as
 >>> to
 >>
 >>
 >> why
 >>
 >>> it started doing this again... It was fine, up until about a half
 >>>
 >>
 >>
 >> hour
 >>
 >>> ago.. Then it just stopped receiving connections. There's nothing
 >>> in
 >>
 >>
 >> the
 >>
 >>> logs.. I even tried the M$ method: Reboot.. no joy. It didn't
 >>> help.
 >>>
 >>> And stopping portsentry doesn't make any difference. It's not the
 >>> mail system either. I reverted back to the pre-spam
 >>
 >>
 >> filter
 >>
 >>> version. That didn't make any difference. It's just started
 >>> rejecting all connections.
 >>>
 >>> gotta be a reason
 >>>
 >>> Ric
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> well...this sounds horribly familiar, so I'll set to work trying to
 >>  recall what it was I was doing when this happened to me, and how I
 >>  handled the situation. damned thing of it I should have kept up my
 >>  journal of that period. there was a time when everything I touched
 >> on that machine turned to crap! it's not so bad now cause I've had
 >> a lot of practice. :)  don't worry though...it'll come to
 >> me...eventually.
 >
 >
 > Ok, let's get basic. It was running when I first checked on it this
 > morning. The spam filter was tight, so I loosened that up a little
 > (pure postfix config file stuff. NO systems level stuff). Then I
 > restarted postfix, and the server stopped receiving connections.
 >
 > I rebooted.
 >
 > Then portsentry went crazy on the reporting, and started rejecting
 > every incoming mail connection. (actually, I suspect that they were
 > being rejected anyway, there was no new mail coming in before that).
 >
 > The last time it started acting like that, xinetd wasn't running.
 > This time it is.
 >
 > The firewall is up. iptables is running.
 >
 > postfix is up
 >
 > I can "send" mail from it, and users from inside that network can
 > pass through it, so masq'ing is working right.
 >
 > Why is it rejecting ALL incoming e-Mail connections?
 >
 > And ONLY incoming e-Mail connections. I can ssh in, and the web
 > server is running, and allows connections...
 >
 > But any incoming e-Mail is interpreted as an attack, and rejected.
 >
 > Where is this coming from ?!?!  (portsentry is shut off. But I've
 > been running it a very long time. I've seldom found it the source of
 > the problem, on the messenger. Without it, I feel like I'm running a
 > bit blind...
 >
 > Any thoughts? Suggestions on where to look? WAGs?
 >
 > This server has been a super reliable server for the past 3 years.
 > It's been on 8.1 for a year or so, and has never caused any problems.
 >  Now all the sudden... I can't keep it running...
 >
 > HELP!
 >
 > Ric

Ric,

how is it you're certain that the connections to port 25 are being
interpreted as attacks on the system? apart from PortSentry I can't
think of anything else that would cause that port to be closed and
refuse a connection. the only other cause for the connection being
refused is if the service itself isn't running.

other then things stated above I'm drawing a blank. try this 
though

Re: [expert] printer driver in samba

2003-01-15 Thread Todd Lyons
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Norman Zhang wrote on Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 11:30:11AM -0800 :
> 
>  security = DOMAIN

So you're using a seperate samba or NT domain server?

>  os level = 18
>  preferred master = No
>  local master = No
>  domain master = No

Definitely must be :)

I don't see anything outstandingly wrong.  All authentication is going
through another server, so that server must allow you to do whatever it
is that you're doing.  Hopefully Buchan can offer more help.

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Re: [expert] Rejected Connections

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Weaver
Tibbetts, Ric wrote:

All;
Let me try this from a different angle.

I have a server with problems.

Right now, it's rejecting all connections to port 25 (mail). I can do 
everything else, but that.

The server is running postfix for sending mail, and smtp is open in the 
firewall. It was accepting connections this morning, and has now 
stopped. Mysteriously.

I'd sure appreciate any pointers on what could/would cause a server to 
suddenly stop accepting connections...

Ric

Ric,

please check the most recent post on the previous thread related to this 
problem. I believe it holds the keys to your present problem.

Mark



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Re: [expert]STOP the presses!! WAS: And the fun continues (it's deadagain)

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Weaver
Ric

Um...a quick, sweet scan of your system proved to be very revealing. I know 
exactly why your messages and in fact all messages are being refuse...port 25 
and your other ports you're using for email in and out are all closed. that 
would tend to explain a lot as to why you can't get messages in and out of the 
place.

As far as I know there are only three things that can cause these ports to 
close like this.

1) the firewall has closed these ports by dropping all packets going to those 
ports.

2) the services aren't running...in this case Postfix.

3) the line in the /etc/services file that contains the reference to the port 
and service has been commented out closing off the port and the service which 
runs there upon.

this third item is the most perplexing in that this file has to be edited 
manually. I don't know of any program that writes to this file in the normal 
course of doing its thing.

You know??? it just occurred to me that you might not even see this post! 
&%(_(ET$#%*(*^Y#@

Mark


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Re: [expert] Recognition of Todd Lyons

2003-01-15 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 16:49, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
> I want to make an official appeal to the Mandrake management to keep
> Todd Lyons securely in the company, in the recent light of current
> events regarding the Chapter 11.
>
> Todd Lyons has been an incredible asset to the Expert list, helping
> countless users with their problems and concerns.  It would be a
> terrible loss to Mandrake and an even more terrible loss to all Mandrake
> users were anything to happen that would force him to seek other
> employment.  We want him around and we want him to stay.
>
> Civileme was a huge asset to all of us here in North America, as well as
> the rest of the world.  We don't want the same thing to happen to Todd
> Lyons.  If this concerns you now is the time to make your support known.
>
> Thank you, Todd.
>
> LX

I second that wholeheartedly.
Where would we be without all those blues skies

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Re: [expert] And the fun continues

2003-01-15 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
Mark Weaver wrote:

Tibbetts, Ric wrote:


Mark Weaver wrote:



On Wednesday 15 January 2003 10:57 am, Tibbetts, Ric scribbled
nervously:



Sheesh!
NOW, the server (firewall side) is just bulk rejecting ALL


connections


(again!). It considers any incoming mail as a SYN attack, and


rejects


it! (egads! I'm getting tired of this chase!). I thought I had this
sorted out...

/var/log/messages is bing filled with messages like:



[snip]



It's all incoming mail, that is not coming in!

Any thoughts on WHY it would interpret all incoming connections as


an


attack? Anything not already blocked is interpreted as a SYN attack,



and



is rejected, and added to the list

Thanks !

Ric




Ric,

do yourself a huge favor and turnoff and uninstall PortSentry. He's a
tired old man with a serious bladder control problem. he sh*ts


himself 

from
time to time as well. do that and you should be feeling a lot better.



Mark (anyone);
At what point in your startup is iptables starting (remember that my 
rcx.d directories got trashed). I'm missing something, and I need to 
figure out what!

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!

Ric


Ric,

as I recall its rather early in the boot process. i'll check and then
repost 
what I find.

Mark

Of interest on this one.
If I put iptables back into the startup (chkconfig --add iptables). It 
gets added at the top (S03 I think).
Then if I reboot, it changes to


K92iptables -> ../init.d/iptables


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Re: [expert] How start sshd at boot time?

2003-01-15 Thread Eduardo Mendes

> > I am using ssh-3.2.0.
> > What am I doing wrong?
>
> Ummm, using a non-Mandrake package.  We use openssh, not RSA's ssh.
>

Does it mean that I am in trouible for not using Mandrake package?  Is there a 
workaround (not that one of removing ssh and installing openssh)?

Many thanks

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Re: [expert] MNF vs SNF

2003-01-15 Thread JP
Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> deeg zun bes op schoal um hej te
kinne schrieve:

> On Wed Jan 15, 2003 at 10:32:39AM +0100, JP wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > it seems as if they try to get people to pay for the mnf updates,
> > however, I dont think you will have to do so in order to get the
> > updates. 
> 
> I can't speak officially on this as I'm not directly involved with MNF,
> but after playing with it yesterday I do have some observations.
> 
> In order to use the web interface for updates, you will need to pay.  I
> have no idea what the pricetag is.  I, as of yet, have no idea how well
> the web interface works (I've been playing with MNF for less than 24hrs
> now).
> 
> > first of all, i just checked a mandrake updates mirror and there is a
> > seperate directory for mnf, that one could simply use (add to urpmi
> > etc.) without mandrake even knowing it.
> 
> Yup.  You can use urpmi and use whatever mirror you like to get
> updates.  This should be just as secure as the "for pay" mirror... ie.
> md5sums are available and the file is GPG clearsigned.  RPM packages
> can be validated via md5 and gpg sigs.

thank god, no micro$$$oft practices.
 
> The primary advantage to the for pay updates is you will have access to
> them instantly.  I don't know what the infrastructure for the updates
> is, but I imagine there will be next to no delay for updates... you
> would get them almost immediately.  Relying on third-party mirrors
> means a little bit of a delay, so it depends on how quickly you want
> your firewall patched up (if speed is important to you, getting
> "priority" updates may well be what you need/want).  You also wouldn't
> have to worry about free mirrors being clogged when new distribs are
> released... anyone try to update software the day of a new Mdk or RH
> release?  Have fun getting into most public mirrors that week.

no problem for me :-)
I must admit though that this may indeed be a serious problem to many
people, certainly if it is about some critical security update.
 
> Anyways, you do not *need* to pay to have a fully functioning firewall
> and the ability to do updates.  You will have to be familiar with urpmi
> (or learn it) and log in remotely in order to do the updates, but once
> you add whatever mirror you want to use, a simple "urpmi.update -a;
> urpmi --auto-select" is enough to keep you up to date.
> 
> And no, there will be no "MNF updates go to public mirrors 24hrs after
> they go to the for-pay mirror" stuff, so anyone worried about a delay
> for non-paying people should not worry.  You just have to deal with the
> mirroring schedules of the third-party mirrors.
> 
> If anyone ever wants to see how well mirrors keep up to date, there is
> a fairly approximate listing on
> http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/ftp.php that will show you when the
> last update was done.
> 
> > second, this mnf is basically a (heavily modified and stripped down)
> > version of mandrake 8.2. for which updates are freely available. see
> > also snf, which has a similar relationship to 7.2, with many packages
> > in the snf update directory being a simlink to the 7.2 updates.
> 
> Yup, exactly.
> 
> > all in all a rather unclear situation, as by reading the mandrake
> > website one would think you have to pay for security updates.
> 
> Nope, not at all.  You're paying for access to a private FTP site.  The
> updates themself are "free"; meaning publically available to anyone who
> wants them.  Access to the private FTP site is the real issue here.
> 
> I agree that it wasn't clearly worded, so I hope this provides a little
> less confusion for those who would like to use MNF but have some
> reservations thinking you might be charged for security updates.

it does clarify alot indeed. 

as for the 'delay' one experiences when using mirror sites, I guess it
basically comes down to what one uses the box for.

a home user will generally care less about such things, and also have a
smaller budget than say a corporate it department guy. apart from that,
mnf like snf is to be used as a firewall/nat router. once properly setup,
such a machine should not be running any services except a (local lan
only) sshd, leaving virtually no possiblities for intrusion but the ssh
packages (or a highly unlikely kernel networking related bug).

in the end, it's all about priorities ;-)


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Re: Re: [expert] "Removable Media" icon

2003-01-15 Thread Chuck Burns
On Wed, January 15 2003 1:26 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
*snip*
> 
> Hey Todd. I did it by editing the /usr/bin/kdesktop-links file (per the 
> Mandrake  Experience web site).
> 
> Are there advantages/disadvantages to either method? Or is this another 
> example of the "many ways to do things" under Linux genre? 
> 
> See ya!
> 
I just fiddled around with it, looking in all scripts I could find that might 
have anything to do with kde and the desktop, and I found the file, all by 
myself, after the suggestion someone else gave me to just delete it, didnt 
work.
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Re: [expert] "Removable Media" icon

2003-01-15 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 02:12 pm, Todd Lyons wrote:
> Chuck Burns wrote on Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 10:59:03PM -0600 :
> > How do I rid myself of that annoying Removable Media icon, that KDE
> > insists on putting on my desktop, even tho I have added the devices to
> > the desktop manually?  Every time I delete it, it comes back when I
> > log out and back in
>
> mv /usr/share/mdk/kde/removable_media.directory /some/place/safe
>
> Restart KDE.
>
> Blue skies... Todd

Hey Todd. I did it by editing the /usr/bin/kdesktop-links file (per the 
Mandrake  Experience web site).

Are there advantages/disadvantages to either method? Or is this another 
example of the "many ways to do things" under Linux genre? 

See ya!

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Re: [expert] printer driver in samba

2003-01-15 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi Buchan and All,

I have appended my smb.conf at the bottom of this email for you to review.
Your comments are greatly appreciated. I have also appended some additional
info of my LM9.0 system.

Regards,
Norman

 I'm trying to add driver to the print$ share in Windows 2000 as a
 printer administrator. But after selecting Printers/Server
 Properties/Drivers, all tabs cannot be selected (grayed out).
:::
::: You need to be listed in 'printer admin group' or a member of such a
::: group, such as:
:::
::: printer admin group = @adm root
::: etc
:::
::: BTW, process is like this, browse to the Printers share on the
::: machine, right-click the printer, choose properties, say no when
::: offered to install a driver, click advanced, choose "New Driver".
::
:: I do have printer_admin = @"MYNTDOMAIN\Print Admins", root. I also
:: set my Print Admins to be the primary group for the operators. I
:: also tried the process you described, but I still got access denied.
:: Does this have to do with CUPS? Do I need to use cupsaddsmb? But I
:: can't find the PPD from CUPS. They were available in the CUPS web
:: config.
:
: No, if you use the cupsaddsmb, you end up using generic ps drivers on
: the windows clients, in most cases you want the windows driver to be
: installed there.

Thank you. I guess I won't proceed with cupsaddsmb further.

::: Well, you should also have some directories under there such as
::: W32X86 etc. Check the perms of those, and also ensure the share has
::: enabled write for whoever is trying to upload drivers.
::
:: All subfolder are there. It is 755 for all subfolders. The
:: subfolders were created by Mandrake by default. I even did a
:: setfacl -m g:"ARKONDOMAIN\Print Admins":rwx /var/lib/samba/printers,
:: and gave rx access for all parent folders. But still unsuccessful 8(
:: Please help.
:
: You need write access to the folders *below* /var/lib/samba/printers, so
: try:
: # setfacl -d -m g:"ARKONDOMAIN\Print Admins":rwx /var/lib/samba/printers
:
:: Regards,
:: Norman
:
: It might help to send me your whole smb.conf so I can see exactly how
: you are setup.

I tried changing the winbind separator to \

# Samba config file created using SWAT
# from 0.0.0.0 (0.0.0.0)
# Date: 2003/01/14 14:44:12

# Global parameters
[global]
 workgroup = ARKONDOMAIN
 netbios name = PRNSERVER
 server string = Samba Server %v
 security = DOMAIN
 encrypt passwords = Yes
 obey pam restrictions = Yes
 password server = PDCSERVER
 log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
 max log size = 50
 socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
 printcap name = cups
 character set = ISO8859-15
 os level = 18
 preferred master = No
 local master = No
 domain master = No
 dns proxy = No
 winbind uid = 1-2
 winbind gid = 1-2
 template shell = /bin/bash
 winbind separator = +
 winbind use default domain = Yes
 printer admin = root, @"ARKONDOMAIN\Print Admins"
 printing = cups
 print command = lp -d %p -o raw %s; rm -f %s

[hp5p]
 comment = HP LaserJet 5P--Show Room
 path = /var/spool/samba/hp5p
 guest ok = Yes
 printable = Yes
 print command = lpr-cups -P %p -o raw %s
 printer name = hp5p

[print$]
 comment = Printer Drivers
 path = /var/lib/samba/printers
 write list = root, @"ARKONDOMAIN\Print Admins"
 guest ok = Yes
 dos filetimes = Yes

[printers]
 comment = All Printers
 path = /var/spool/samba
 guest ok = Yes
 printable = Yes
 browseable = No



[root@prn root]# setfacl -d -m g:"Print Admins":rwx /var/lib/samba/printers/
[root@prn root]# getfacl /var/lib/samba/printers
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
# file: var/lib/samba/printers
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::r-x
group:Print Admins:rwx
mask::rwx
other::r-x
default:user::rwx
default:group::r-x
default:group:Print Admins:rwx
default:mask::rwx
default:other::r-x

[root@prn root]# smbstatus

Samba version 2.2.7
Service  uid  gid  pid machine
--
IPC$ ARKONDOMAIN+domainadmin ARKONDOMAIN+Print Admins  5178
2139-1-20 (192.168.22.34) Tue Jan 14 14:45:23 2003
IPC$ ARKONDOMAIN+domainadmin ARKONDOMAIN+Print Admins  5178
2139-1-20 (192.168.22.34) Tue Jan 14 14:44:49 2003

No locked files

[root@prn printers]# ls -l
total 20
drwxrwxr-x2 root root6 Nov 25 10:15 W32ALPHA/
drwxrwxr-x2 root root6 Nov 25 10:15 W32MIPS/
drwxrwxr-x2 root root6 Nov 25 10:15 W32PPC/
drwxrwxr-x2 root root6 Nov 25 10:15 W32X86/
drwxrwxr-x2 root root6 Nov 25 10:15 WIN40/
[root@prn printers]# pwd
/var/lib/samba/printers

[root@prn drivers]# ls
ADFONTS.MFM   ADOBEPS5.DLL  cupsdrvr.dll  DEFPRTR2.PPD  PSMON.DLL
ADOBEPS4.DRV  ADOBEPSU.DLL  cups.hlp  hplj5p_1.ppd
ADOBEPS4.HLP  ADOBEPSU.HLP  cupsui.dllICONLIB.DLL
[root@prn drivers]# pwd
/usr/share/cups/drivers
[root@prn drivers]# getfacl /usr/share/cups/drivers
getfacl: Removing leading '/' from absolute path names
#

Re: [expert] And the fun continues

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Weaver
Tibbetts, Ric wrote:

Mark Weaver wrote:


On Wednesday 15 January 2003 10:57 am, Tibbetts, Ric scribbled
nervously:


Sheesh!
NOW, the server (firewall side) is just bulk rejecting ALL connections
(again!). It considers any incoming mail as a SYN attack, and rejects
it! (egads! I'm getting tired of this chase!). I thought I had this
sorted out...

/var/log/messages is bing filled with messages like:



[snip]



It's all incoming mail, that is not coming in!

Any thoughts on WHY it would interpret all incoming connections as an
attack? Anything not already blocked is interpreted as a SYN attack,



and


is rejected, and added to the list

Thanks !

Ric




Ric,

do yourself a huge favor and turnoff and uninstall PortSentry. He's a
tired old man with a serious bladder control problem. he sh*ts himself 
from
time to time as well. do that and you should be feeling a lot better.


Mark (anyone);
At what point in your startup is iptables starting (remember that my 
rcx.d directories got trashed). I'm missing something, and I need to 
figure out what!

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!

Ric

Ric,

as I recall its rather early in the boot process. i'll check and then repost 
what I find.

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Re: [expert] And the fun continues

2003-01-15 Thread Todd Lyons
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Tibbetts, Ric wrote on Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 10:57:39AM -0500 :
> 
> Any thoughts on WHY it would interpret all incoming connections as an 
> attack? Anything not already blocked is interpreted as a SYN attack, and 
> is rejected, and added to the list

PortSentry is nothing more than a Denial of Service on yourself if you
have a busy site.

At any rate, knock the sensitivity back one (from 0 to 1 IIRC) and it
should become less sensitive.

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[expert] Rejected Connections

2003-01-15 Thread Tibbetts, Ric
All;
Let me try this from a different angle.

I have a server with problems.

Right now, it's rejecting all connections to port 25 (mail). I can do 
everything else, but that.

The server is running postfix for sending mail, and smtp is open in the 
firewall. It was accepting connections this morning, and has now 
stopped. Mysteriously.

I'd sure appreciate any pointers on what could/would cause a server to 
suddenly stop accepting connections...

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Re: [expert] And the fun continues (it's dead again)

2003-01-15 Thread Mark Weaver
Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
> Mark Weaver wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 15 January 2003 11:30 am, Tibbetts, Ric scribbled
>> nervously:
>>
>>> Mark Weaver wrote:
>>>
 On Wednesday 15 January 2003 10:57 am, Tibbetts, Ric scribbled

 nervously:

> Sheesh! NOW, the server (firewall side) is just bulk
> rejecting ALL

>>
>> connections
>>
> (again!). It considers any incoming mail as a SYN attack, and
>

>>
>> rejects
>>
> it! (egads! I'm getting tired of this chase!). I thought I
> had this sorted out...
>
> /var/log/messages is bing filled with messages like:


 [snip]


> It's all incoming mail, that is not coming in!
>
> Any thoughts on WHY it would interpret all incoming
> connections as

>>
>> an
>>
> attack? Anything not already blocked is interpreted as a SYN
> attack,


 and


> is rejected, and added to the list
>
> Thanks !
>
> Ric


 Ric,

 do yourself a huge favor and turnoff and uninstall PortSentry.
 He's
>>>
>>
>> a
>>
 tired old man with a serious bladder control problem. he sh*ts
 himself
>>>
>>
>> from
>>
 time to time as well. do that and you should be feeling a lot
 better.
>>>
>>>
>>> I shut it off when it started puking like that. THen I cleaned
>>> out /etc/hosts/deny.
>>>
>>> But it's still not accepting any connections, it's just quieter
>>> about it. It's just not receiving anything. When it did this the
>>> other day, xinetd was down. I checked that... alls well there.
>>> It's running.
>>>
>>> this is really getting frustrating! If I were 3000 miles closer,
>>> I'd shoot the thing between it's transistors, and rebuild it. But
>>> I'm just
>>
>>
>> a
>>
>>> bit to far away for that.
>>>
>>> I can still ssh in, so at least I can work on it. But I'm lost as
>>> to
>>
>>
>> why
>>
>>> it started doing this again... It was fine, up until about a half
>>>
>>
>>
>> hour
>>
>>> ago.. Then it just stopped receiving connections. There's nothing
>>> in
>>
>>
>> the
>>
>>> logs.. I even tried the M$ method: Reboot.. no joy. It didn't
>>> help.
>>>
>>> And stopping portsentry doesn't make any difference. It's not the
>>> mail system either. I reverted back to the pre-spam
>>
>>
>> filter
>>
>>> version. That didn't make any difference. It's just started
>>> rejecting all connections.
>>>
>>> gotta be a reason
>>>
>>> Ric
>>
>>
>>
>> well...this sounds horribly familiar, so I'll set to work trying to
>>  recall what it was I was doing when this happened to me, and how I
>>  handled the situation. damned thing of it I should have kept up my
>>  journal of that period. there was a time when everything I touched
>> on that machine turned to crap! it's not so bad now cause I've had
>> a lot of practice. :)  don't worry though...it'll come to
>> me...eventually.
>
>
> Ok, let's get basic. It was running when I first checked on it this
> morning. The spam filter was tight, so I loosened that up a little
> (pure postfix config file stuff. NO systems level stuff). Then I
> restarted postfix, and the server stopped receiving connections.
>
> I rebooted.
>
> Then portsentry went crazy on the reporting, and started rejecting
> every incoming mail connection. (actually, I suspect that they were
> being rejected anyway, there was no new mail coming in before that).
>
> The last time it started acting like that, xinetd wasn't running.
> This time it is.
>
> The firewall is up. iptables is running.
>
> postfix is up
>
> I can "send" mail from it, and users from inside that network can
> pass through it, so masq'ing is working right.
>
> Why is it rejecting ALL incoming e-Mail connections?
>
> And ONLY incoming e-Mail connections. I can ssh in, and the web
> server is running, and allows connections...
>
> But any incoming e-Mail is interpreted as an attack, and rejected.
>
> Where is this coming from ?!?!  (portsentry is shut off. But I've
> been running it a very long time. I've seldom found it the source of
> the problem, on the messenger. Without it, I feel like I'm running a
> bit blind...
>
> Any thoughts? Suggestions on where to look? WAGs?
>
> This server has been a super reliable server for the past 3 years.
> It's been on 8.1 for a year or so, and has never caused any problems.
>  Now all the sudden... I can't keep it running...
>
> HELP!
>
> Ric

Ric,

how is it you're certain that the connections to port 25 are being
interpreted as attacks on the system? apart from PortSentry I can't
think of anything else that would cause that port to be closed and
refuse a connection. the only other cause for the connection being
refused is if the service itself isn't running.

other then things stated above I'm drawing a blank. try this 
though...drop the firewall and then see if a connection can be made, and 
double check your firewall rulesset to make sure that it is allowing 
connections to port 25.

Mark



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Re: [expert] NIC insmod Runaround

2003-01-15 Thread Todd Lyons
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Michael Adams wrote on Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 10:47:44PM +1300 :
> I am learning the basics of networking and have stuck an old PI beside my 
> PIII. I have a NIC installed in each with a patch cable and have succesfully 
> insmoded or modprobed both computers once. The modprobe seems to do an insmod 
> as part of its operation. That was fine, i set up eth0 with
> # ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
> on one and "... 168.0.1 ..." on the other. ping worked fine in both 
> directions.
> I shut them down to put everything back together. After the reboot neither 
> ifconfig, modprobe, or insmod would work (in that order). It is like some 

The kernel needs to know to load the 8139too when you try to access that
device.  So in your /etc/modules.conf, you need:

alias eth0 8139too

Then the system needs to know what IP address you want it to have.  Put
the following in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0:

DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=static
IPADDR=192.168.0.2
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
ONBOOT=yes

Then you can just run 'ifup eth0' and it will load the module for you
and assign the IP address.

To make it automatic, configure the "network" service to start at
boottime with 'chkconfig network on'

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[expert] HP OfficeJet R40 (as scanner) and Netgear PS110 (printer server)

2003-01-15 Thread Haisam K. Ido
 
I was able to configure my Mandrake 9.0 system to use a remote printer
 (HP OfficeJet R40) via Netgear's PS110 printer server.  I am able to print
 but I just realized that I could no longer use the printer to scan (via xsane)
 (it's a printer, scanner and copier in one).  

Is there a way to configure
 xsane to use this remote printer as a remote scanner?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

HP OfficeJet R40 (as scanner) and Netgear PS110 (printer server)

I was able to configure my Mandrake 9.0 system to use a remote printer (HP OfficeJet 
R40) via Netgear's PS110 printer server.  I am able to print but I just realized 
that I could no longer use the printer to scan (via xsane) (it's a printer, scanner 
and copier in one).

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Re: [expert] OT network backup solutions

2003-01-15 Thread Todd Lyons
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Mark Belanger wrote on Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 03:28:54AM -0500 :
> Can anyone recommend a backup solution for
> a fairly large(300 node) heterogeneous network.
> We currently have Solaris, Windows, Linux, SunOS,
> and DomainOS machines.

Amanda is a good free choice.  Requires a bit of patching for simple
features like "fill unused portion of tape".  Amanda is commandline
oriented (ie no gui and no curses access).

BRU is a good choice since their licensing is very straightforward.  The
software is good and designed to allow you to share devices if necessary.
Access is GUI but can be scripted.

Arkeia is a good choice, but their licensing gets very expensive on
large networks.  They also use proprietary drivers and hold exclusive
locks on device access.  Access is GUI 100%.

Which one you choose should depend on you trying one of each.

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Re: [expert] Making OpenOffice StarOffice (or other app) launch faster

2003-01-15 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 19:03, Brent Hasty wrote:
> I have multiple useres on my MDK 9 Terminal Server, running on thin
> clients. I was wondering if there were a way to precash specific apps on
> say a ram disk or other suitable method to improve the launch time of
> common and often used apps like openoffice or staroffice.
>
> What are my options in linux to do somthing like this.

http://ooqstart.sourceforge.net/

 This applet provides a quick launcher for Open Office 641C+ or Star Office
6.0+. It attempts to mimic the functionality provided by the quickstarter tray
 icon on the other operating system supported by Open Office.


The program attempts to keep a background process alive at all times, even
 if that process is terminated by the user. The four main applications: 
Writer, Calc, Draw, and Impress can be launched directly from the context
 menu of the applet. 

HTH

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Re: [expert] "Removable Media" icon

2003-01-15 Thread Todd Lyons
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Chuck Burns wrote on Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 10:59:03PM -0600 :
> 
> How do I rid myself of that annoying Removable Media icon, that KDE
> insists on putting on my desktop, even tho I have added the devices to
> the desktop manually?  Every time I delete it, it comes back when I
> log out and back in

mv /usr/share/mdk/kde/removable_media.directory /some/place/safe

Restart KDE.

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Re: [expert] How start sshd at boot time?

2003-01-15 Thread Todd Lyons
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Eduardo Mendes wrote on Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 05:07:55PM + :
> >
> > Look at which runlevels sshd is turn on. If they are all off, try:
> >   chkconfig --level 2345 sshd on
> error reading information on service sshd: No such file or directory

rpm -q openssh-server   It sounds like you don't have it installed.

> I am using ssh-3.2.0.
> What am I doing wrong?

Ummm, using a non-Mandrake package.  We use openssh, not RSA's ssh.

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