Re: [expert] 9.2 Kernel Source
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 15:56, Norman Zhang wrote: Hi, The 9.2 CDs doesn't seem to include kernel-source. Is it being renamed to something else now? I also did a urmpi kernel-source, and system told me everything is installed. May I ask where is kernel-source? I guess I could always download the kernel errata source. Kernel-source is on the mirrors, not the ISOs. Download it. Damon Regards, Norman __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Firewall questions
Currently I rely on a hardware firewall, but I would like to add a personal software firewall. I know that I will need a slice of time to do sufficient reading to get the configuration right, so I thought that I would browse using Webmin to see what I needed to know, particularly since I don't want to affect the lan. Unfortunately, though logically, you can't do that until you have installed iptables. I see, though, that it offers configuration for Linux Firewall and Shorewall. If I install iptables and/or shorewall do they come with completely hashed out configuration files, or am I immediately committed to sorting it? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] LG drive list
In our anxiety to get the information out as quickly as possible, Jim and I duplicated the info on separate pages. Augustin moved it all onto one page, but this resulted in two lists - both getting additions by users. I have, hopefully, combined the two lists on http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/LgCdrom If you have one of these drives, please ensure that your entry is still there. If there are any problems please let me know. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Firewall questions
On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 11:03 am, J.C. Woods wrote: Just install iptables, and start rolling your own rules. There are loads of sites that document how to. So installing iptables will have no 'built-in' rules? That's what I want, so that I can build it up a little at a time. You could start off by just replacing one rule at a time from your external router. For example, let's say your hardware does not allow any ping responses. So you write your first rule with iptables to disallow any ping responses, and turn that feature off on the router, so on and so forth until you feel good about your firewall rules, and have a better understanding of what is going on. The problem for me is that the hardware router does not allow GnomeMeeting to have a range of ports open (it uses h.323 tunneling), so I'm thinking that I will need, eventually, to set my box dmz and rely on the software one, suitably configured. I am quite prepared to make the switch to dmz for the duration of a session (it won't be too frequent), but I want the second layer in first. Consequently, I can use dmz to test the rules, going back behind the hardware f/w as necessary. And you could do this a little at a time, as you learn new rules Because I have always wrote my own rules, since the days of ipchains, I do not know too much about Shorewall, and I would never trust Webmin to handle a vital function like firewalls. Just my two cents worth... My experience with using it to set up samba does not encourage me to do it that way, but I thought that browsing the interface might give me a better idea of the questions I need answering before actually doing any configuration. Thanks for the input Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Interesting wireless driver tool
J.C. Woods wrote: Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just came across a message posted to the wlan-ng list. There is a company out there called Linuxant and they have released Driveloader, a windoze driver compatibility layer and installer. Here is the info from their page: I can not help but to be skeptical butt... Do keep us up to date on how these drivers work, if indeed they do... drjung I already know people on the Dell forum that are using it... (to get Dell broadcom wireless cards working under linux) So we know it does work. As soon as I get my hands on some 9.2 iso's and an update packages iso, I will be setting it up on my laptop. rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LG drive list
I submitted my GSA-4040B DVD+-RW/RAM to the lgerrata list, and see it's not mentioned on yours, Confirmed to work even with the 'faulty' kernel. Mine is FwRev A104 as reported by hdparm. On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:55, Anne Wilson wrote: In our anxiety to get the information out as quickly as possible, Jim and I duplicated the info on separate pages. Augustin moved it all onto one page, but this resulted in two lists - both getting additions by users. I have, hopefully, combined the two lists on http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/LgCdrom If you have one of these drives, please ensure that your entry is still there. If there are any problems please let me know. Anne -- Seppo Jarvinen,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never trust an operating system Kenttäkatu 9 A 2,76100 PIEKSÄMÄKI you don't have sources for. GSM +358 40 568 1756 You never know what you're facing Power the World, With Linux! unless you dare to LOOK AT IT. Technology lies on the leading edge Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Firewall questions
On Thursday 30 October 2003 07:01 am, Anne Wilson wrote: So installing iptables will have no 'built-in' rules? That's what I want, so that I can build it up a little at a time. Yes, that is the way that I am running it, to supplement the hardware router because hardware routers are not really suitable for filtering as opposed to blocking. The problem for me is that the hardware router does not allow GnomeMeeting to have a range of ports open (it uses h.323 tunneling), so I'm thinking that I will need, eventually, to set my box dmz and rely on the software one, suitably configured. I am quite prepared to make the switch to dmz for the duration of a session (it won't be too frequent), but I want the second layer in first. Consequently, I can use dmz to test the rules, going back behind the hardware f/w as necessary. What kind do you have? You should be able to open up an entire range, as small or large as you want and configure GnomeMeeting to simply confine to that range. I have a range open for passive ftp and it appears to work fine. My experience with using it to set up samba does not encourage me to do it that way, but I thought that browsing the interface might give me a better idea of the questions I need answering before actually doing any configuration. As your rules get extended, Webmin will evenually break down and time out trying to display them all. At least, it does in my case, so I simply keep a bash script to issue the commands and periodically update and rerun the script to repopulate changes to my firewall. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] LG drive list
On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 12:18 pm, Seppo Jarvinen wrote: I submitted my GSA-4040B DVD+-RW/RAM to the lgerrata list, and see it's not mentioned on yours, Confirmed to work even with the 'faulty' kernel. Mine is FwRev A104 as reported by hdparm. Thanks, Seppo, I've added it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] mozilla mail password
Hi List! I don't know why or how but when I decided to use mozilla mail asking me may password to mail account (IMAP) it's simply became unavailable! How heck I can tell to mozilla to pop-up password screen asking me access? I installed thunderbird and it just fine, but now I didn't check to remember my password. BTW, I tried password manager in Mozilla, but, you guess, nothing happened. Many thanks in advance for any help. Cheers, -- -- Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva -- B.Sc. - Dep. Física - UFPA M.Sc. - Dep. Física - PUC/RJ D.Sc. - IBCCF/UFRJ Bolsista Pesquisador LAC-INPE São José dos Campos (SP), Brasil www.lac.inpe.br/~alan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Firewall questions
-Original Message- From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Firewall questions Currently I rely on a hardware firewall, but I would like to add a personal software firewall. I know that I will need a slice of time to do sufficient reading to get the configuration right, so I thought that I would browse using Webmin to see what I needed to know, particularly since I don't want to affect the lan. Unfortunately, though logically, you can't do that until you have installed iptables. I see, though, that it offers configuration for Linux Firewall and Shorewall. If I install iptables and/or shorewall do they come with completely hashed out configuration files, or am I immediately committed to sorting it? Anne -- If you're looking for ease of use, Shorewall should do. It can be quickly enabled in MCCSecurityDrakFirewall. It uses iptables as the underlying filter, but configuration is much more simple IMHO. Then again, if you have the time and ambition to learn iptables that's always a handy skill to have! __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Update on the LG problem.
James: I'm wondering how long it will be until some piece of malware is propagated that will seek out systems using these drives and send the fatal flush-cache instruction. One can only hope that the moron at LG who wrote the original BIOS is now engaged in some other line of work more suited to his talents -- cleaning stables comes to mind. -- cmg After some consideration on this issue, I have decided to write this malware myself and release it forthwith.. :-) I'll base it on sobig so only windows users are effected.. take the heat of mandrake :-) Wonder if the anti vir companies will call it sobig.LG ??? rgds Franki (If the FBI or any other security organisation is reading this, I have only to things to say...: 1. STOP READING MY DAMN EMAIL. 2. ITS A JOKE! :-) -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Interesting wireless driver tool
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may allow the Intel Centrino wireless garbage to work. It is garbage because Intel SAID they would support linux but they backtracked and have not released any linux drivers. For their failure to follow through I have boycotted using their systems (CPU, etc) in favor of AMD. This isn't enough to get me to change my mind, though for others who have centrino systems but have to live with the fact that they are all but useless under linux, this may be a way to make use of your investment. praedor On Thursday 30 October 2003 07:06 am, Franki wrote: J.C. Woods wrote: Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just came across a message posted to the wlan-ng list. There is a company out there called Linuxant and they have released Driveloader, a windoze driver compatibility layer and installer. Here is the info from their page: I can not help but to be skeptical butt... Do keep us up to date on how these drivers work, if indeed they do... drjung I already know people on the Dell forum that are using it... (to get Dell broadcom wireless cards working under linux) So we know it does work. As soon as I get my hands on some 9.2 iso's and an update packages iso, I will be setting it up on my laptop. rgds Franki - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oTAhaKr9sJYeTxgRAqg+AJ40Jn1q2K/Zfr7yb3kT2+rYO0bECACeMGi9 AySGNWe0/sjZsbs8Y1U5N6U= =MXv6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Macros and OO
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This isn't specific to Mandrake in any way, but I was hoping someone could point me to a good site that might explain how to setup macros in OpenOffice? I get to handle purchasing in my lab. This system (on a Mac) uses an excel database filled with scientific products/chemicals, etc, and an order form. There are macros setup so that one can select a row in the database for product X and enter it into the order form. I copied this database/form to my laptop running Mandrake with OpenOffice and imported it. All is well except, of course, all the M$ macros didn't transfer and, thus, if I desire to be able to handle these orders from my laptop I need to duplicate the macros in OpenOffice 1.5. I have NEVER done macros, in M$ Word, excel, etc, nor in OO. I don't even know where to begin. The tentative steps I've taken to try to figure it out have been hopeless thus far. Any really good HOWTOs on this? praedor - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oTIdaKr9sJYeTxgRAooQAKC2Twx+dFexe981mPyExvi4CIQKowCff+C8 KvG5pnZu2w34lXap7GiBowA= =eySa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Macros and OO
OO.o 1.1 has a macro recorder. Probably the easiest way to recreate the macros is to figure out how to do the steps in OO.o and then record the macro using the tool. HTH David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Praedor Atrebates Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:46 AM To: Mandrake Expert Subject: [expert] Macros and OO -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This isn't specific to Mandrake in any way, but I was hoping someone could point me to a good site that might explain how to setup macros in OpenOffice? I get to handle purchasing in my lab. This system (on a Mac) uses an excel database filled with scientific products/chemicals, etc, and an order form. There are macros setup so that one can select a row in the database for product X and enter it into the order form. I copied this database/form to my laptop running Mandrake with OpenOffice and imported it. All is well except, of course, all the M$ macros didn't transfer and, thus, if I desire to be able to handle these orders from my laptop I need to duplicate the macros in OpenOffice 1.5. I have NEVER done macros, in M$ Word, excel, etc, nor in OO. I don't even know where to begin. The tentative steps I've taken to try to figure it out have been hopeless thus far. Any really good HOWTOs on this? praedor - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oTIdaKr9sJYeTxgRAooQAKC2Twx+dFexe981mPyExvi4CIQKowCff+C8 KvG5pnZu2w34lXap7GiBowA= =eySa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] CUPS and SAMBA
Hi All!! I am using a print server CUPS in one machine, for ends of accounting of impressions. Workstations Linux they can print without problems, and a script Perl works in a file pages_log of the CUPS, and I have my accounting. But, users Windows when they print comes with the user nobody. Some form of configuration of the SAMBA exists so that the user who is in the Windows machine is registered with its name and not nobody ?? Thanks !! Mauricy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Macros and OO
Try here: http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/index.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This isn't specific to Mandrake in any way, but I was hoping someone could point me to a good site that might explain how to setup macros in OpenOffice? I get to handle purchasing in my lab. This system (on a Mac) uses an excel database filled with scientific products/chemicals, etc, and an order form. There are macros setup so that one can select a row in the database for product X and enter it into the order form. I copied this database/form to my laptop running Mandrake with OpenOffice and imported it. All is well except, of course, all the M$ macros didn't transfer and, thus, if I desire to be able to handle these orders from my laptop I need to duplicate the macros in OpenOffice 1.5. I have NEVER done macros, in M$ Word, excel, etc, nor in OO. I don't even know where to begin. The tentative steps I've taken to try to figure it out have been hopeless thus far. Any really good HOWTOs on this? praedor - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oTIdaKr9sJYeTxgRAooQAKC2Twx+dFexe981mPyExvi4CIQKowCff+C8 KvG5pnZu2w34lXap7GiBowA= =eySa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- - Abit VP6 Dual Pentium III 1GHz Mandrake 9.2 Kernel 2.4.22-18mdkenterprise SMP - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Interesting wireless driver tool
On Thursday 30 October 2003 10:36 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: This may allow the Intel Centrino wireless garbage to work. It is garbage because Intel SAID they would support linux but they backtracked and have not released any linux drivers. For their failure to follow through I have boycotted using their systems (CPU, etc) in favor of AMD. This isn't enough to get me to change my mind, though for others who have centrino systems but have to live with the fact that they are all but useless under linux, this may be a way to make use of your investment. I have done the same, but in the laptop world, there is not as much choice. I just ordered an IBM T41 but replaced the Intel WiFi card with a Cisco Aironet which is supported in 9.2. As I shopped around, it looked like the only real choice in an AMD laptop was HP. As I am not entirely happy with their **on the fence** support of SCO, I had a hard time buying an HP machine. That, on top of the fact that Intel got it right with the Pentium M, and that IBM had a wireless alternative and they actually had documents on their own website about installing Linux on the thing made my choice pretty clear. The keyboard light sealed the deal. Dell doesn't have a wireless option that has linux support, not to mention they don't support AMD and give lip service to Linux. I understand that they get massive discounts from Intel and Microsoft for maintaining their exclusivity, but that doesn't mean I have to buy it just because it is cheaper. Also, Dell just looks cheaper, but when you really price it out with all the options, a comparable D600 to the T41 was the same price. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] WebMin login
This is a weird one! Using https://localhost:1/ I'm getting redirected to a marketing site named www.netbreakthroughs.com! Anyone seen this? How to stop it? Tim -- _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] where's the kernel-source package in download edition?
Dear Mandrake developers, the kernel source package seems to be missing in the 9.2 download edition. As you know, it is required for compiling of many important applications (such as new drivers etc.). Will it be included in the updates? Thanks very much and happy development! :-) Artemio. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] where's the kernel-source package in download edition?
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:20:29 +0200 Artemio [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Dear Mandrake developers, the kernel source package seems to be missing in the 9.2 download edition. As you know, it is required for compiling of many important applications (such as new drivers etc.). Will it be included in the updates? Well, I''m about as far from a developer as you can get, but this came up eons ago, check the archives for more details. The short version is, the kernel source should be available from contrib sources, IIRC. -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ If you wait long enough, it will go away... after having done its damage. If it was bad, it will be back. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] where's the kernel-source package in download edition?
Am Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2003 18:26 schrieb HaywireMac: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:20:29 +0200 Artemio [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Dear Mandrake developers, the kernel source package seems to be missing in the 9.2 download edition. As you know, it is required for compiling of many important applications (such as new drivers etc.). Will it be included in the updates? Well, I''m about as far from a developer as you can get, but this came up eons ago, check the archives for more details. The short version is, the kernel source should be available from contrib sources, IIRC. Not from contrib, but from main. For the update-kernel, the kernel-source for that kernel are supplied by aupdate-medium. So for anyone having configured the update medium, they will have the kernel-source in rpmdrake too. So yes they are included in the updates, but only for update kernel. Steffen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] more msec questions
Hi ... me again :/ I'm at msec 4, which defaults to 6 days on password aging. I've used drakconf to set password aging to several different numbers and I've tried setting my changes in level.local - no good, still stays at 6 days. I've also tried restarting all services and even reboot the machine - still not happening. Thanks for any suggestions... -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com So in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. Romans 12:5 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] mozilla mail password
If you want it to always ask your password, delete the entry under Tools-Password Manager and restart mozilla. -- Guy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: where's the kernel-source package in download edition?
Will it be included in the updates? I asked this question earlier. Apparently kernel-source is not included in the original 9.2 ISOs. You need to get it from one of the mirror. Previous version ISO did contain kernel-source. I'm not sure if the remaster ISO will contain it. Regards, Norman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] missing kde features
Here's a couple KDE features I miss. a) Konqueror starting up with the sidebar by default (in file manager mode). b) the most-frequently used applications at the top of the K menu. If anyone knows how to enable those features, please let me know. -- Guy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WebMin login
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:22:31 -0500 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:15:59 + Tim Sawchuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Anyone seen this? How to stop it? This came up before. Verisign actually sold the domain localhost.com, bloody arses that they are. Two sol'ns came up, tell your browser not to autmatically append .com to addresses, or use 127.0.0.1 instead. How you tell your browser not to append .com would vary according to the browser, check the archives for more info on that. Thanks Haywire! 127.0.0.1 worked fine. I'm using Mozilla-Firebird and could not find how to disable. I do have the extension that lets me modify all prefs, just could not find it. And I found your reply stumbling through the archives; search in acrchives is not working, so it is the scroll and hope you find the keywork that works. Find in page in the browser works ok, *if* you get the correct keyword. Anyway, now I have to admit that I viewed WebMin as a security problem and never used it. Now I feel like an idiot, seeing how powerful it is - at least I learned something new today..' old dawg, new trick! ;-) Tim -- _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] missing kde features
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 30 October 2003 11:37 am, Guy McArthur wrote: Here's a couple KDE features I miss. a) Konqueror starting up with the sidebar by default (in file manager mode). Open Home, click on settings and find the Location Bar and enable it. b) the most-frequently used applications at the top of the K menu. Right click the K menu button, from panel menu click configure panel click the menus tab. Knock yourself out. g If anyone knows how to enable those features, please let me know. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 11:47:04 up 1 day, 23:50, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.23, 0.33 I'm meditating on the FORMALDEHYDE and the ASBESTOS leaking into my PERSONAL SPACE!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oV1GG11CaRuZZSIRAqtoAJ4ttV06ODCDGh/kSTfG3AGsG95y5ACcDPVr 1LDFVtLINIWRqLzT+dtf0AM= =09wL -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WebMin login
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:38:41 + Tim Sawchuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: And I found your reply stumbling through the archives; search in acrchives is not working, so it is the scroll and hope you find the keywork that works. Find in page in the browser works ok, *if* you get the correct keyword. I should have mentioned, it was Eric Huff IIRC that ran into the same thing, would have helped you track it down easier, sorry. -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ The best you get is an even break. -- Franklin Adams Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Firewall questions
On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 12:21 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: The problem for me is that the hardware router does not allow GnomeMeeting to have a range of ports open (it uses h.323 tunneling), so I'm thinking that I will need, eventually, to set my box dmz and rely on the software one, suitably configured. I am quite prepared to make the switch to dmz for the duration of a session (it won't be too frequent), but I want the second layer in first. Consequently, I can use dmz to test the rules, going back behind the hardware f/w as necessary. What kind do you have? You should be able to open up an entire range, as small or large as you want and configure GnomeMeeting to simply confine to that range. I have a range open for passive ftp and it appears to work fine. SMC/7401BRA We chose that one, knowing nothing about routers, because at least the manufacturer put the manual on the website, and it looked reasonable. I've regretted it a bit, but that's hindsight. You can open around 10 ports, (total of tcp and udp), but no ranges. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing kde features
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ya know, it isn't there. There is no settings selection that enables the separate side window displaying tree view while the main window shows current directory (home) file view. This is with the Texstar KDE 3.1.4 install. There is a location toolbar but this merely refers to the browser location-like bar at the top. The only way to even get close to what used to be there (recall, this is analogous with the Local Folders window in kmail) is to select the Midnight Commander profile in settings, but this isn't really what is desired. praedor On Thursday 30 October 2003 01:49 pm, Charlie M. wrote: Thursday 30 October 2003 11:37 am, Guy McArthur wrote: Here's a couple KDE features I miss. a) Konqueror starting up with the sidebar by default (in file manager mode). Open Home, click on settings and find the Location Bar and enable it. b) the most-frequently used applications at the top of the K menu. Right click the K menu button, from panel menu click configure panel click the menus tab. Knock yourself out. g If anyone knows how to enable those features, please let me know. Regards; Charlie - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oWW8aKr9sJYeTxgRAkjAAJ9/3Vc+4Rq5UWV1TQs7a19mccTaRQCePatl 2nk+na62Sbrm3FULKvRruIs= =xHO3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing kde features
On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 7:25 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Ya know, it isn't there. There is no settings selection that enables the separate side window displaying tree view while the main window shows current directory (home) file view. This is with the Texstar KDE 3.1.4 install. There is a location toolbar but this merely refers to the browser location-like bar at the top. The only way to even get close to what used to be there (recall, this is analogous with the Local Folders window in kmail) is to select the Midnight Commander profile in settings, but this isn't really what is desired. praedor Does F9 work, Praedor? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing kde features
Anne Wilson wrote: Does F9 work, Praedor? F9 does work. I don't think any of the `konqeruor --profile` options work to restore a sidebar in a profile (bug in konqueror). F9 is an inconvenience. ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing kde features
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ah. Yes, F9 did bring back the sidebar folder window. Thank you. Am I to assume that this will be necessary every time I open Home or otherwise use konqueror for file management? praedor On Thursday 30 October 2003 02:34 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 7:25 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Ya know, it isn't there. There is no settings selection that enables the separate side window displaying tree view while the main window shows current directory (home) file view. This is with the Texstar KDE 3.1.4 install. There is a location toolbar but this merely refers to the browser location-like bar at [...] Does F9 work, Praedor? - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oWtBaKr9sJYeTxgRApmJAJwJH1GG2+AJjC0LH2oL0c9pW5HMdQCfSGt6 N2YjIAGQUlC2xT09CyIh0Qk= =V2eb -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing kde features
Guy McArthur wrote: Here's a couple KDE features I miss. a) Konqueror starting up with the sidebar by default (in file manager mode). f-9, then save the profile. b) the most-frequently used applications at the top of the K menu. If anyone knows how to enable those features, please let me know. -- Alan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing kde features
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The answer to my own question, at least within the current session, is No. I do not have to do F9 every time I open home or any other directory. Hopefully it will take upon restart/relogin. praedor On Thursday 30 October 2003 02:49 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Ah. Yes, F9 did bring back the sidebar folder window. Thank you. Am I to assume that this will be necessary every time I open Home or otherwise use konqueror for file management? [...] - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oWyWaKr9sJYeTxgRAiY8AJ9rC+gHGZWIK+13IWAQec5wWOHp/wCeOSxE qV/QrHzH8o1lOPxKso8t1XE= =twB4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] more msec questions
Michael Holt mused: Hi ... me again :/ I'm at msec 4, which defaults to 6 days on password aging. I've used drakconf to set password aging to several different numbers and I've tried setting my changes in level.local - no good, still stays at 6 days. I've also tried restarting all services and even reboot the machine - still not happening. Thanks for any suggestions... I'll answer my own post... I did chage -M on the individual users and it seems to have stuck; why wouldn't that work through my previous methods? thanks -- Michael Holt Snohomish, WA (o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com So in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others. Romans 12:5 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] I need to Port Foward 443 internally
Does anyone have a simple approach to forward the 443 port to an internal machine? -- Albert E. Whale, CISSP - Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant http://www.abs-comptech.com http://www.No-JunkMail.com ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists SPAM Zapper - www.No-JunkMail.com - SPAM Stops Here. Founding Board of Directors of Pittsburgh FBI - InfraGard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing kde features
On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 7:42 pm, Guy McArthur wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Does F9 work, Praedor? F9 does work. I don't think any of the `konqeruor --profile` options work to restore a sidebar in a profile (bug in konqueror). F9 is an inconvenience. ;-) I always wanted the side-bar in file manager mode, but not in web browser mode, and I never found a way of doing that, so I used f9 constantly. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing kde features
On Thursday 30 October 2003 02:55 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: The answer to my own question, at least within the current session, is No. I do not have to do F9 every time I open home or any other directory. Hopefully it will take upon restart/relogin. If it does not, just resave the view profile. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need to Port Foward 443 internally
with iptables: IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -i nas1 --dport 81 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.201:80 IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT IPTABLES -A FORWARD -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -t nat -p udp -i nas1 --dport 81 -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.201:80 IPTABLES -A INPUT -p udp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT IPTABLES -A FORWARD -p udp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT Explanations: -i nas1 = INTERFACE IN (In my case this is an ADSL Card) modify ports / ip / iface to suit your needs. On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 22:21, Albert Whale wrote: Does anyone have a simple approach to forward the 443 port to an internal machine? -- Seppo Jarvinen,[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never trust an operating system Kenttäkatu 9 A 2,76100 PIEKSÄMÄKI you don't have sources for. GSM +358 40 568 1756 You never know what you're facing Power the World, With Linux! unless you dare to LOOK AT IT. Technology lies on the leading edge Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need to Port Foward 443 internally
There's two ways of doing it simply
If your using a firewall you can use DNAT or another simpler way is to
use the redirect function in xinetd, something like below
service ipnode
{
disable = no
flags = REUSE
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
server = /usr/sbin/telnetd
redirect= 44.131.90.2 3694
server_args = -a none
log_on_failure += USERID
}
you'll need to change the server and change the service name..
MAKE SURE it matches the service name in /etc/services
HTH
Richard
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 20:21, Albert Whale wrote:
Does anyone have a simple approach to forward the 443 port to an
internal machine?
--
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Re: [expert] missing kde features
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thursday 30 October 2003 12:25 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Ya know, it isn't there. There is no settings selection that enables the separate side window displaying tree view while the main window shows current directory (home) file view. Amazing how much difference there is between Tex's KDE and what I'm running at the moment. If I didn't have such a massive set of skull cramps at the moment I'd start picking the versions apart to see what other differences there are. Maybe if I have time later...Sorry my attempt at helping didn't. The skull cramps were triggered by attempting to re-master the 9.2 ISOs to include the updates. For the most part. g This is with the Texstar KDE 3.1.4 install. There is a location toolbar but this merely refers to the browser location-like bar at the top. The only way to even get close to what used to be there (recall, this is analogous with the Local Folders window in kmail) is to select the Midnight Commander profile in settings, but this isn't really what is desired. praedor I must have at one time F9'ed the home browser and saved the file management profile to have it always enabled. Sorry again, but it looks as though Anne and Greg came to the rescue! (-: Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Linux release 9.2 (FiveStar) for i586 kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 14:38:13 up 2 days, 2:41, 1 user, load average: 0.28, 0.10, 0.08 Microsoft broke Volkswagen's world record: Volkswagen only made 22 million bugs! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oYb8G11CaRuZZSIRAtl6AKCh73VSWds3soKna+iK1N7ADwkkoQCglcp6 U5EciF1NctIeal2ioQaBAug= =x39c -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WebMin login
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:54:23 -0500 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:38:41 + Tim Sawchuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: And I found your reply stumbling through the archives; search in acrchives is not working, so it is the scroll and hope you find the keywork that works. Find in page in the browser works ok, *if* you get the correct keyword. I should have mentioned, it was Eric Huff IIRC that ran into the same thing, would have helped you track it down easier, sorry. No big deal. Your answer still got me going, even if it did show in the archives before it got delivered to my pop account. Tim -- _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Kmail problem (mdk 9.2)
Robert Goshko wrote: I am having a weird problem with Kmail, when I compose a message, all is well, the header look correct from within Kmail, but when I look at the sendmail queue, the sender address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -Queue ID- --Size-- Arrival Time -Sender/Recipient--- 81ABC81B4B 1169 Wed Oct 29 10:19:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] When sending from Mozilla Thunderbird, all look great in sendmail: -Queue ID- --Size-- Arrival Time -Sender/Recipient--- 4D39A81B4E 625 Wed Oct 29 10:20:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the correct addresses setup in the Kmail config, anyone know why this would be happening? Okay I have found out why this is happening, when Kmail passes the mail off to sendmail (aka postfix) it is passing a sender name of rgoshko (which is my login name) and sendmail (postfix) is rewriting this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why would Kmail be using the login user ID as the sender? I have multiple identities set-up and it doesn't matter which I use it places the sender as rgoshko and sendmail transforms it. Thunderbird work fine. Any ideas here, I have searched my config but can find this no where. -- ...Rob -- 100% Pure Evil with the look and feel of Wholesome Goodness. = Robert Goshko Axis Computer Consulting Services, Inc President Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada http://www.axis-dev.ca/ Supporting the Revolution In Your World = Registered Linux User #260513 GNU/Linux i686 2.4.22-10mdk-725ca Mandrake Linux 9.2 mobile AMD Athlon(tm) 4 1500+ 15:27:57 up 9:03, 1 user, load average: 0.65, 1.02, 1.14 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] KDE copy and paste not working properly in 9.2?
Hi, has anyone else had some problems in KDE apps with copy and paste? I'm noticing some strange errors, e.g. copy a full screen of text, and paste in another window in the same application, and getting text from a privious copy / cut. It seems to work when only a small amount of text is copied. Cut seemingly works without problems. Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE copy and paste not working properly in 9.2?
On Thursday 30 October 2003 10:50 pm, Damon Lynch wrote: has anyone else had some problems in KDE apps with copy and paste? I'm noticing some strange errors, e.g. copy a full screen of text, and paste in another window in the same application, and getting text from a privious copy / cut. It seems to work when only a small amount of text is copied. Cut seemingly works without problems. Damon On the off chance this might be it- klipper might be full, and configured wrong. It should be set at 25 items in history (the max), and the save contents on exit unchecked. At least that's the way I like it. I've had c/p stop working when klipper became full- when I cleared the history, all was well. Klipper is where your copied items are stored in a buffer, to be pasted later. If the buffer is full, you can't copy anything else to it. I'd like to know how to get the 25 item limit increased. (OK- just found it- /home/ wrc/.kde3.1/share/config/klipperrc). However, your copy/paste problem might be something else. Robert Crawford Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE copy and paste not working properly in 9.2?
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 07:34, flacycads wrote: On Thursday 30 October 2003 10:50 pm, Damon Lynch wrote: has anyone else had some problems in KDE apps with copy and paste? I'm noticing some strange errors, e.g. copy a full screen of text, and paste in another window in the same application, and getting text from a privious copy / cut. It seems to work when only a small amount of text is copied. Cut seemingly works without problems. Damon On the off chance this might be it- klipper might be full, and configured wrong. Hi Robert, I didn't know about klipper (I use Gnome), so thanks for the hint. Now I see via klipper that when I do a copy, a couple of weird characters are going into the clipboard: Ñ and then the square symbol. And that's it - instead of a whole screen of text. But cut works fine, and shows up in klipper. So, time for me to figure out the new bug reporting system? :) Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Where can I get mandrake precompiled kernels .config files?
Hi everybody! I'm new to _this_ distribution of Linux. I would like to know where can I get the .config files used to compile the precompiled kernels Mandrake includes. I got one kernel-source-verion.rpm, and tried to compile it, but I got some problems. I don't know if this kernel was actually configurated like the compiled kernels Mandrake includes, or it was just something else. Thanks, - Oscar Retana. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE copy and paste not working properly in 9.2?
On Thursday 30 October 2003 11:52 pm, Damon Lynch wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 07:34, flacycads wrote: Cut seemingly works without problems. Damon On the off chance this might be it- klipper might be full, and configured wrong. Hi Robert, I didn't know about klipper (I use Gnome), so thanks for the hint. Now I see via klipper that when I do a copy, a couple of weird characters are going into the clipboard: Ñ and then the square symbol. And that's it - instead of a whole screen of text. But cut works fine, and shows up in klipper. So, time for me to figure out the new bug reporting system? :) Damon Sorry- missed that you said cut worked OK- that would indicate the buffer is saving stuff OK. I've little experience with Gnome, and have been on Gentoo for 3 months, waiting for MDK9.2 to get it together. But I do know Mandrake and KDE very well. Are you using 9.1? Was there always this problem, or did it suddenly occur? What's the Gnome equivalent to kde klipper? Does c/p failure occur when using another window manager? If so, what I would try with an RPM distro, is remove Gnome while in init 3 or another environment like kde, reboot to init 3 or kde, and then reinstall Gnome. With kde, when you do stuff like that, you always rename your ~/.kde folder first to kde.old, so you can replace your mail, and konqueror settings. However, investigate everything else first, before taking that drastic step. We need a Gnome expert to chime in here about the c/p problem! Two other tips for non-command line experts linux types who run into serious problems (myself included): 1. If drive room permits, always install kde AND Gnome, so you can repair and investigate things easier with a GUI. 2. Get a Knoppix cd, and learn how to use it as a rescue boot disk, with it's kde environment. I did my Gentoo install with this, and have bailed out of several seeming impossible situtations for a command line amateur! (Of course, for experts, it would have been easy at a CLI, if you had the background and required knowledge). Robert Crawford Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE copy and paste not working properly in 9.2?
On Thursday 30 October 2003 02:38 pm, flacycads wrote: But cut works fine, and shows up in klipper. So, time for me to figure out the new bug reporting system? :) What key combo or mouse gesture are you using to do the paste? -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE copy and paste not working properly in 9.2?
On Thursday 30 October 2003 05:50 pm, Damon Lynch wrote: Hi, has anyone else had some problems in KDE apps with copy and paste? I'm noticing some strange errors, e.g. copy a full screen of text, and paste in another window in the same application, and getting text from a privious copy / cut. It seems to work when only a small amount of text is copied. Cut seemingly works without problems. Here is my experience with copy and paste in linux. There are two ways to do it. The traditional unix way by highlighting text and then middle clicking where you want it, and the windows way, where you use ctrl-c and ctrl-v to do the job. Consequently there are two different buffers you are using. Every time I have had trouble pasting something with ctrl-v, as in your example, something else unexpected, it turned out that I had some text highlighted somewhere else that caused the trouble. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Where can I get mandrake precompiled kernels .config files?
On Friday 31 October 2003 12:30 am, Oscar Retana wrote: Hi everybody! I'm new to _this_ distribution of Linux. I would like to know where can I get the .config files used to compile the precompiled kernels Mandrake includes. I got one kernel-source-verion.rpm, and tried to compile it, but I got some problems. I don't know if this kernel was actually configurated like the compiled kernels Mandrake includes, or it was just something else. Thanks, - Oscar Retana. Oscar, If you have a standard MDK install with sources, the kernel .config file is found in /usr/src/linux-. MDK kernels are heavily patched. You can't just take that file, and apply it to other kernels. You would have to decipher the source directory, and find all the patches Mandrake includes in the kernels they issue. But you don't have to do that- you can compile other kernels from source as user in a home directory with Mandrake, using your own config file, and your own patches, if desired. Mandrake includes all the patches in it's source when it releases a new kernel, so it's not really practical to try and copy that. You would have to find all the patch If you wish to experiment with other kernels, just do it in completely separate directories in a created /home/user/kernels/, from raw non-rpm source, where it never interacts with the stock Mandrake installed kernel, and system. That way, you never have to worry about not being able to boot if you mess up. I'm not really clear on what you are asking. Please tell us what your objective is, and people will certainly offer many helpful options, and clarify the process. Robert Crawford Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Fetchmail problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK. On my laptop I use a global /etc/fetchmailrc file because I like the cleanliness of running fetchmail as a daemon at startup rather than as a cron job as a user (Ugh. Crude. Ugly). I decided to experiment on my desktop and try to use fetchmail in daemon mode but instead of an /etc/fetchmailrc, I have a ~/.fetchmailrc file. Naturally, no worky. Is there a way to get fetchmail, the DAEMON, to use my ~/.fetchmailrc file or am I going to have to copy it to /etc/fetchamilrc again? praedor - -- Faith is the very antithesis of reason, injudiciousness a critical component of spiritual devotion. - --Krakauer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/obofb1CLurEA6xURAqoPAJ4uGlfImHiBHYjjXgcDoYPIMoqM7QCgsOjO G3dxc5PNVBb2OaadSmScADw= =UIg/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fetchmail problem
On Thursday 30 October 2003 08:25 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: OK. On my laptop I use a global /etc/fetchmailrc file because I like the cleanliness of running fetchmail as a daemon at startup rather than as a cron job as a user (Ugh. Crude. Ugly). I decided to experiment on my desktop and try to use fetchmail in daemon mode but instead of an /etc/fetchmailrc, I have a ~/.fetchmailrc file. Naturally, no worky. Is there a way to get fetchmail, the DAEMON, to use my ~/.fetchmailrc file or am I going to have to copy it to /etc/fetchamilrc again? Simply run fetchmail with the -f option and specify the exact fetchmailrc file that you want it to use. IE. fetchmail -d 180 -f /home/user/.fetchmailrc -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE copy and paste not working properly in 9.2?
On Friday 31 October 2003 12:55 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 30 October 2003 05:50 pm, Damon Lynch wrote: Hi, has anyone else had some problems in KDE apps with copy and paste? I'm noticing some strange errors, e.g. copy a full screen of text, and paste in another window in the same application, and getting text from a privious copy / cut. It seems to work when only a small amount of text is copied. Cut seemingly works without problems. Here is my experience with copy and paste in linux. There are two ways to do it. The traditional unix way by highlighting text and then middle clicking where you want it, and the windows way, where you use ctrl-c and ctrl-v to do the job. Consequently there are two different buffers you are using. Every time I have had trouble pasting something with ctrl-v, as in your example, something else unexpected, it turned out that I had some text highlighted somewhere else that caused the trouble. I think Greg is correct, if it's in different windows. I'm a kde man, but in various circumstances, either online or off in file manager or kde browser, sometimes c/p works with right click c/p, and not with middle click, or vice versa. Usually I just clear klipper, and that fixes it. Or maybe I'm mistaken. I've just edited klipperrc to hold 50 items, so I'll find out if that delays the problem. Maybe kde developers don't realize many people like to save so many items in the buffer? Damon- I don't understand why the subject of your post is about KDE, if you use Gnome? Please advise, and enlighten me. Robert C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fetchmail problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks. Unfortunately, that doesn't make it any better than running it as a cron job. My desire is that no matter how many users are using, only ONE fetchmail process is needed. Instead of all users running their own fetchmail, have the system run ONE and have this one process check for ~/.fetchmailrc files in all user directories and go from there. As a new user creates a .fetchmailrc, the fetchmail daemon would simply find it and use it on the next fetch. - From your answer I assume that fetchmail is not capable of this. To my thinking, this is a flaw in design. Instead of designing a system that requires each and every user run independent instances of fetchmail, it is self evident that a single process handling the mail for any and all users is more logical and clean in design. Fetchmail can't do this? Is there a fetchmail-alike that can? praedor On Thursday 30 October 2003 08:36 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 30 October 2003 08:25 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: OK. On my laptop I use a global /etc/fetchmailrc file because I like the cleanliness of running fetchmail as a daemon at startup rather than as a cron job as a user (Ugh. Crude. Ugly). I decided to experiment on my desktop and try to use fetchmail in daemon mode but instead of an /etc/fetchmailrc, I have a ~/.fetchmailrc file. Naturally, no worky. Is there a way to get fetchmail, the DAEMON, to use my ~/.fetchmailrc file or am I going to have to copy it to /etc/fetchamilrc again? Simply run fetchmail with the -f option and specify the exact fetchmailrc file that you want it to use. IE. fetchmail -d 180 -f /home/user/.fetchmailrc - -- Faith is the very antithesis of reason, injudiciousness a critical component of spiritual devotion. - --Krakauer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ob+Pb1CLurEA6xURAkwQAKCXh1UfAbXV7/G+MBv5Fgm3/yr/jQCfUzeQ PZZgC2VkNiHcZYSfb79xhdw= =mBpq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] I need to Port Foward 443 internally
Does anyone have a simple approach to forward the 443 port to an internal machine? Assuming your running some sort of Linux router with IPTABLES, you should be able to do something like this: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -d w.x.y.z --dport 443 -j DNAT --to-destination a.b.c.d iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s a.b.c.d --sport 443 -o eth0 -j SNAT --to-source w.x.y.z w.x.y.z is your external, a.b.c.d is your internal. Please let me know if it works. -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fetchmail problem
OK. On my laptop I use a global /etc/fetchmailrc file because I like the cleanliness of running fetchmail as a daemon at startup rather than as a cron job as a user (Ugh. Crude. Ugly). I decided to experiment on my desktop and try to use fetchmail in daemon mode but instead of an /etc/fetchmailrc, I have a ~/.fetchmailrc file. Naturally, no worky. Is there a way to get fetchmail, the DAEMON, to use my ~/.fetchmailrc file or am I going to have to copy it to /etc/fetchamilrc again? Have you tried using the -f or --fetchmailrc flag when you can fetchmail? -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE copy and paste not working properly in 9.2?
Hi, has anyone else had some problems in KDE apps with copy and paste? I'm noticing some strange errors, e.g. copy a full screen of text, and paste in another window in the same application, and getting text from a privious copy / cut. It seems to work when only a small amount of text is copied. Have you tried shift-selecting the region to be copied? -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing kde features
Here's a couple KDE features I miss. a) Konqueror starting up with the sidebar by default (in file manager mode). This should work: a) In file manager mode, configure your konqueror session as you want it. Then do a Save View Profile from the Settings menu. -- The Digital Hermit Unix and Linux Solutions http://www.digitalhermit.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fetchmail problem
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Praedor Atrebates wrote: My desire is that no matter how many users are using, only ONE fetchmail process is needed. That's what the daemon is for; one process, fetching everyone's mail. Instead of all users running their own fetchmail, have the system run ONE and have this one process check for ~/.fetchmailrc files in all user directories and go from there. As a new user creates a .fetchmailrc, the fetchmail daemon would simply find it and use it on the next fetch. Fetchmail is not capable of this. OTOH, as the syntax of the config file is so absurdly simple and englishlike, it is trivial for the root user to add servers and username/password pairs to /etc/fetchmailrc to accomplish essentially the same thing. At that one process runs as root, root is the only user that can do this. Users can run their own instances of the app if they want, of course, even if the daemon also runs as a service. - From your answer I assume that fetchmail is not capable of this. To my thinking, this is a flaw in design. Instead of designing a system that requires each and every user run independent instances of fetchmail, it is self evident that a single process handling the mail for any and all users is more logical and clean in design. Complain to Eric Raymond, then. He has provided an app that can be run as a daemon for system-wide mail retrieval *and/or* as a user job for a more individualized approach, but you just can't please everyone, it seems. :) Were you so inclined, you could cobble together a script that looked into each homedir for a .fetchmailrc file, and either invoked a single copy of fetchmail using each found file (i.e. doing a single poll), then loop, or alternatively, copied the poll and user lines from said files into the /etc/fetchmailrc file being used by the daemon (as the daemon can tell when that file has changed since the last poll, and will auto-reload it). As always, TIMTOWTDI; there's no need to build it into the app itself. -- Bill Mullen [EMAIL PROTECTED] MA, USA RLU #270075 MDK 8.1 9.0 Microsoft has a new version out, Windows XP, which according to every- body is the 'most reliable Windows ever.' To me, this is like saying that asparagus is 'the most articulate vegetable ever.' -- Dave Barry Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE copy and paste not working properly in 9.2?
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 09:38, flacycads wrote: Damon- I don't understand why the subject of your post is about KDE, if you use Gnome? Please advise, and enlighten me. I use applications like Kate and Quanta while running Gnome. Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE copy and paste not working properly in 9.2?
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 08:38, flacycads wrote: Are you using 9.1? No, 9.2, as the subject indicates. Was there always this problem, or did it suddenly occur? Just now. Does c/p failure occur when using another window manager? If so, what I would try with an RPM distro, is remove Gnome while in init 3 or another environment like kde, reboot to init 3 or kde, and then reinstall Gnome. Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm at work and this is not going to happen on a work PC in work time :) Damon __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE copy and paste problem (diagnosed)
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 13:50, Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 30 October 2003 02:38 pm, flacycads wrote: But cut works fine, and shows up in klipper. So, time for me to figure out the new bug reporting system? :) What key combo or mouse gesture are you using to do the paste? Middle click, ctrl-v, and paste button in application do not work. I think the problem is not the amount of text: it is the EOF marker that is presumably at the end of the file. If that is included (e.g. via ctrl-a), the buffer will not pick it up properly. At least that is what my experimenting is indicating thus far. So far I have noted it in Quanta Plus, but I will try other KDE apps. Thanks all for the suggestions. Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WebMin login
This came up before. Verisign actually sold the domain localhost.com, bloody arses that they are. Two sol'ns came up, tell your browser not to autmatically append .com to addresses, or use 127.0.0.1 instead. How you tell your browser not to append .com would vary according to the browser, check the archives for more info on that. I see you got your solution, but if anyone else can't get it to stop that way: The issue with firebird is even worse: there's some sort of google search that i couldn't seem to turn off. And when i did 127.0.0.1, i got the same, which i couldn't figure out. Or does the /etc/hosts file work both ways: 127.0.0.1 turns into localhost? Anyway, my solution was to run webmin on bootup. This way, when you try to go to webmin, since that port is already running, firebird didn't try to search any further... eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WebMin login
127.0.0.1 worked fine. I'm using Mozilla-Firebird and could not find how to disable. I do have the extension that lets me modify all prefs, just could not find it. Hmm... I just now read closely enough to see you use firebird. Which version? Do you have Webmin set to run at startup? (it probably was by default) eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (Quanta) copy and paste not working (bug filed)
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 00:50, Damon Lynch wrote: Hi, has anyone else had some problems in KDE apps with copy and paste? this bug has been filed: http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/query.php?bug=52 Damon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing kde features
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 11:25, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ya know, it isn't there. There is no settings selection that enables the separate side window displaying tree view while the main window shows current directory (home) file view. This is with the Texstar KDE 3.1.4 install. There is a location toolbar but this merely refers to the browser location-like bar at the top. The only way to even get close to what used to be there (recall, this is analogous with the Local Folders window in kmail) is to select the Midnight Commander profile in settings, but this isn't really what is desired. praedor On Thursday 30 October 2003 01:49 pm, Charlie M. wrote: Thursday 30 October 2003 11:37 am, Guy McArthur wrote: Here's a couple KDE features I miss. a) Konqueror starting up with the sidebar by default (in file manager mode). Open Home, click on settings and find the Location Bar and enable it. The f9 and then saving the profile worked on mine. b) the most-frequently used applications at the top of the K menu. Right click the K menu button, from panel menu click configure panel click the menus tab. Knock yourself out. g I've disabled most of kicker so I can't check this one. If anyone knows how to enable those features, please let me know. Regards; Charlie - -- Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way. - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/oWW8aKr9sJYeTxgRAkjAAJ9/3Vc+4Rq5UWV1TQs7a19mccTaRQCePatl 2nk+na62Sbrm3FULKvRruIs= =xHO3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] missing kde features
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 11:42, Guy McArthur wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Does F9 work, Praedor? F9 does work. I don't think any of the `konqeruor --profile` options work to restore a sidebar in a profile (bug in konqueror). F9 is an inconvenience. ;-) Yes but you do f9 only once then Settings - Save view profile File-Management. and it's permanent James __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Update on the LG problem.
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 07:32, Franki wrote: James: I'm wondering how long it will be until some piece of malware is propagated that will seek out systems using these drives and send the fatal flush-cache instruction. One can only hope that the moron at LG who wrote the original BIOS is now engaged in some other line of work more suited to his talents -- cleaning stables comes to mind. -- cmg After some consideration on this issue, I have decided to write this malware myself and release it forthwith.. :-) I'll base it on sobig so only windows users are effected.. take the heat of mandrake :-) Wonder if the anti vir companies will call it sobig.LG ??? rgds Franki (If the FBI or any other security organisation is reading this, I have only to things to say...: 1. STOP READING MY DAMN EMAIL. We only read your e-mail for the purpose of protecting your privacy. Failure to comply with this is punishable under the Patriot act. 2. ITS A JOKE! Under the Patriot Act of 2002 persons found guilty of telling Jokes George doesn't understand will be punished by being force to spend a year doing George to English translations of his speeches. Der FBI :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WebMin login
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 02:38, Tim Sawchuck wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:22:31 -0500 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:15:59 + Tim Sawchuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Anyone seen this? How to stop it? This came up before. Verisign actually sold the domain localhost.com, bloody arses that they are. Two sol'ns came up, tell your browser not to autmatically append .com to addresses, or use 127.0.0.1 instead. How you tell your browser not to append .com would vary according to the browser, check the archives for more info on that. Thanks Haywire! 127.0.0.1 worked fine. I'm using Mozilla-Firebird and could not find how to disable. I do have the extension that lets me modify all prefs, just could not find it. And I found your reply stumbling through the archives; search in acrchives is not working, so it is the scroll and hope you find the keywork that works. Find in page in the browser works ok, *if* you get the correct keyword. Anyway, now I have to admit that I viewed WebMin as a security problem and never used it. Now I feel like an idiot, seeing how powerful it is - at least I learned something new today..' old dawg, new trick! ;-) Tim I like it because like sudo it logs everything. Configuring a user so that he/she can use/configure something that would normally require root access is a lot easier than with sudo. Seriously though if you like Webmin you'll love Usermin. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WebMin login
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:21:50 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: 127.0.0.1 worked fine. I'm using Mozilla-Firebird and could not find how to disable. I do have the extension that lets me modify all prefs, just could not find it. Hmm... I just now read closely enough to see you use firebird. Which version? Do you have Webmin set to run at startup? (it probably was by default) Firebird is 0.7. I do have a ton of extensions loaded, but could not fine the one to stop www. and .com being added. I found that the backslash after the localhost ip solved it, i.e. https://127.0.0.1:1/ Webmin set itself up to run at boot. I will leave it, but I wish it would load on demand or when requested I guess it is. My head is swimming; I'm trying to learn to much at once! ;-) Tim -- I often read this forum on my PDA, please use plain text! _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] WebMin login
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:03:29 -0800 James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed on electronic parchment: On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 02:38, Tim Sawchuck wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:22:31 -0500 Anyway, now I have to admit that I viewed WebMin as a security problem and never used it. Now I feel like an idiot, seeing how powerful it is - at least I learned something new today..' old dawg, new trick! ;-) Tim I like it because like sudo it logs everything. Configuring a user so that he/she can use/configure something that would normally require root access is a lot easier than with sudo. Seriously though if you like Webmin you'll love Usermin. James, Well, I'm the only user on this computer. I did log in to Webmin as root, but will setup myself as a user soon. I was astonished at all the options. I know enough to monitor essential logs and so on, but Webmin is very nice. Tim -- I often read this forum on my PDA, please use plain text! _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] WebMin login
Webmin set itself up to run at boot. I will leave it, but I wish it would load on demand or when requested I guess it is. Yeah, that's the key for me. I swear it used to load on demand, but maybe i am smokin it... eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] CUPS and SAMBA
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 08:08, Mauricy Maiorino wrote: Hi All!! I am using a print server CUPS in one machine, for ends of accounting of impressions. Workstations Linux they can print without problems, and a script Perl works in a file pages_log of the CUPS, and I have my accounting. But, users Windows when they print comes with the user nobody. Some form of configuration of the SAMBA exists so that the user who is in the Windows machine is registered with its name and not nobody ?? you got it -- man smbuser. There's also a way to automap Unix users to Samba users. Thanks !! Mauricy __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WebMin login
Firebird is 0.7. I do have a ton of extensions loaded, but could not fine the one to stop www. and .com being added. I found that the backslash after the localhost ip solved it, i.e. https://127.0.0.1:1/ Here are the ones i modified: browser.fixup.alternate.enabled false keyword.enabled false eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] vmware host-only networking and smb.conf
Hi, I think my problems with getting my home network set up under 9.1 look like they are related to setting up samba after enabling host-only networking with vmware. This time with 9.2 I set up the networking and it was working great (well almost) until I started fudging round with it trying to get vmware host-only networking going. Has anyone got this working? The idea is to get samba access to my home network and also have host-only networking going with my windoze guest in vmware. They say this is possible but one needs to go into smb.conf and play around. I went in and tried a few things but my conf file was considerably different to their example one and I don't really know what is absolutely necessary and what is not. If anyone has got this working, or has an alternate solution could they post their smb.conf file, or instructions to do otherwise? Cheers in advance and treats for you on this most Irish of holidays Anton Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] vmware host-only networking and smb.conf
tail /var/log/messages, you probably need to setup a new interface and zone in shorewall. VMWare's SMB stuff is in a separate directory from Mandrake's and can run concurrently. On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 11:02, antonovich wrote: Hi, I think my problems with getting my home network set up under 9.1 look like they are related to setting up samba after enabling host-only networking with vmware. This time with 9.2 I set up the networking and it was working great (well almost) until I started fudging round with it trying to get vmware host-only networking going. Has anyone got this working? The idea is to get samba access to my home network and also have host-only networking going with my windoze guest in vmware. They say this is possible but one needs to go into smb.conf and play around. I went in and tried a few things but my conf file was considerably different to their example one and I don't really know what is absolutely necessary and what is not. If anyone has got this working, or has an alternate solution could they post their smb.conf file, or instructions to do otherwise? Cheers in advance and treats for you on this most Irish of holidays Anton __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] urpmi: Updates for Mandrake Linux 9.2 (ftp1u)
I keep getting this error from urpmi. What can I do to fix it up, short of deleting it without a care? unable to take medium Updates for Mandrake Linux 9.2 (ftp1u) into account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Updates for Mandrake Linux 9.2 (ftp1u)] exists -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Linux Multimedia Resources
What's available for Linux Multimedia resources? By that I mean email lists, books, and websites. My interests are in mostly audio right now, but I am trying to get my sweetie to get me a digital movie camera for Christmas, so that might change. I would love to understand the details of the differences between oggs and mp3, I would love to find out about noise filtering and ID3v1 vs ID3v2, and converting between them. How about other tools than Audacity and Gramofile? Or maybe this tells me to just stay here, and ask away. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
