[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fw: Muslim Jokes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: Well, I'm of a different opinion. I'd probably be quite (over)sensative to any Scandinavian jokes if the rest of the world was ripping our wealth from us harrasing us infiltrating our governments hunting us fighting us invading us humiliating us forcing us to our knees. They are desperate. I can see it is very comforting looking at them as being different from and inferior to us. Sooner or later a whiplash is bound to occur though, that's common sense. Better make it softer by not creating any more terrible karma. Arrogance can only last so long. It's lasted for almost 800 years, since the Crusades. And with reason. Muslims have been treated like the niggers of the world since then, starting with a systematic campaign on the part of Europeans to put them down and regard them as less than human after those same Europeans got their butts kicked in the Crusades themselves. That said, what we're talking about is, in Buddhist terminology, *attachment*. The people who are overreacting to these cartoons are angry because they are *attached* to their beliefs. They cannot tell the difference between someone poking fun at those beliefs and someone attacking them physically. They honestly believe that they *are* their beliefs. The *same* thing happened in Europe and America with regard to Christianity. A bunch of attached people grew so fearful of anyone laughing at the things they held sacred or treating them lightly that they killed hundreds of thousands of people for doing it. Remember the Inquisition? The solution is not, in my opinion, to cave, to submit to these dogma-bullies, but to *continue* to express oneself -- whether that _expression_ happens as humor, or academic criticism, or in whatever fashion it manifests itself. If a bunch of people hadn't stood up for their right to think for themselves, we'd still have the Inquisition. Oh...wait...we still *do* have the Inquisition. It was officially disbanded in the 1950s, but the current Pope brought it back. Never mind. :-) Anyway, as you can tell, I'm a fan of humor and laughter with regard to spirituality and spiritual beliefs. I don't have the exact quote with me, but here's the gist of what one teacher said on the subject: "Any spiritual organization that has lost the ability to laugh at the things it considers holy for fear of losing their way has already lost their way." Good article in the NY Times International edition today about what I was blasted about here yesterday. Goofed up the link try this one: Furor Over Cartoons Pits Muslim Against Muslim JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
The two that worry me are the laws from Montana and Oklahoma. There must have been a *reason* that such laws were created...Where the men are men and the sheep are nervous, and all that... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alabama it is illegal for a driver to be blindfolded while operating a vehicle. Alaska it is considered an offense to push a live moose out of a moving airplane. Arizona any misdemeanor committed while wearing a red mask is considered a felony. Arizona when being attacked by a criminal or burglar, you may only protect yourself with the same weapon that the other person possesses. Augusta, Maine to stroll down the street playing a violin is against the law. Baltimore, Maryland it is illegal to take a lion to the movies. Baltimore, Maryland it is a violation of city code to sell chicks or ducklings to a minor within one week of the Easter holiday. Barber, North Carolina fights between cats and dogs are prohibited. Bexley, Ohio the installation and usage of slot machines in outhouses is prohibited. Boise, Idaho residents may not fish from a giraffe's back. Chicago, Illinois it is forbidden to eat in a place that is on fire. Chico, California detonating a nuclear device within the city limits results in a $500 fine. Everett, Washington it is illegal to display a hypnotized or allegedly hypnotized person in a store window. Fargo, North Dakota one may be jailed for wearing a hat while dancing, or even for wearing a hat to a function where dancing is taking place. Georgia it is illegal to use profanity in front of a dead body which lies in a funeral home or in a coroner's office. Klamath Falls, Oregon it is illegal to walk down a sidewalk and knock a snakes head off with your cane. La Crosse, Wisconsin you may not worry a squirrel. Memphis, Tennessee it is illegal to give any pie to fellow diners. It is also illegal to take unfinished pie home. All pie must be eaten on the premises. Milwaukee, Wisconsin it is against the law to play a flute and drums on the streets to attract attention. Minnesota a person may not cross state lines with a duck atop his head. Montana it is illegal to have a sheep in the cab of your truck without a chaperone. Nebraska it is illegal for bar owners to sell beer unless they are simultaneously brewing a kettle of soup. New Hampshire you cannot sell the clothes you are wearing to pay off a gambling debt. Oklahoma it is illegal to have the hind legs of farm animals in your boots. Pennsylvania ministers are forbidden from performing marriages when either the bride or groom is drunk. Rhode Island any marriage where either of the parties is an idiot or lunatic is null and void. San Francisco, California it is illegal to pile horse manure more than six feet high on a street corner. Seattle, Washington you may not carry a concealed weapon that is over six feet in length. Tennessee driving is not to be done while asleep. Trout Creek, Utah pharmacists may not sell gunpowder to cure headaches. Vermont women must obtain written permission from their husbands to wear false teeth. Washington it is mandatory for a motorist with criminal intentions to stop at the city limits and telephone the chief of police as he is entering the town. West Virginia roadkill may be taken home for supper. Wilbur, Washington you may not ride an ugly horse. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard that MMY was once asked why Muslims, in general, were always so angry. He replied by saying that if it was your first time on two feet, you'd be angry too. I have heard that MMY said deserts follow Islam round the world Shame no-ones compiled a definitive MMY quote book, that would make interesting reading. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yet another article- G harrison/Maharsihi
(FWIW, I've *never* heard anybody say "Maharishi said it so it must be true.") Have you really not heard that? Perhaps it's a typically English way of losing an argument. The interesting thing about this discussion is that according to MMY, he took this same path with Guru Dev of "attuning one's thinking to that of the teacher." Isn't this mood making? I can see how constant exposure to an enlightened person will accelerate evolution but a lot of whats saidabout thissounds like forcing the proccess from the gross levels. If it's true that when you do this, you take on all the qualities of mind of the teacher, what does that say about the qualities of MMY's mind that are so often criticized here? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Gita-death in one's own dharma (was Re: Mind Modelling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:That's my impression too. The point isn't to absorb the teacher's qualities of *mind* but his/her qualities of *consciousness*. Moreover, it's the process of surrender itself, I should think, that does most of the "work" of structuring freedom. This discussion, and Judy's point (everyone's collectively, really) brough to mind the passage from the Gita (Gita scholars chime in here) where it says (paraphrased) "...better to die in one's own dharma than trying to take on the dharma of another..." I know that this has really had to come into play in my own life, realizing that all that I took and and tried to be via my long years with the TM org were attempts at living someone elses vision of how my life should be lived. And I've seen this struggle in so many others. Some have successfully managed to imbibe qualites/ways of living that, initially, seemed so alien, and they truly made them their own. Others, like me, strained to be a certain way and in many ways it backfired. I feel like I wasted years of my life, from age 30-40, knowing and experiencing my life as anything but a success but unwilling/unable to escape from the deep rut I had dug myself into from taking on a massive belief system that clearly wasn't working but which I clung to in the hopes I was wrong and any second now it was going to work. This never happened until I decided to "get out" and even then (15+ years ago) and now, I struggle with the whole thing. A huge problem I think as many of the original TM Teachers I know were told and sincerely believed they would be enlightened in5 years. They are all in poverty now as I will be unless I get my act together! The movement promises so much and while the evolution is real it doesn't lead to what you expect. Most of it is such crap but obviously really appeals to the seeker. Look on the bright side everyone I know who has been holding down a job paying a mortgage all these years is really jealous of our evolutionary lives. The grass is always greener... Perhaps the government will take pity on us and give us a fat pension as a reward for all our coherence creating. (I hope you can tell that's a joke) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greetings from the disillusioned of the UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" jyouells@ wrote: Has anyone asked for a refund? JohnY Yes it's wimpish not to complain but so few ever do it amazes me! I doubt anyone ever asked for a refund as you have to be a real believer to donate that much in the first place, and so probably of the mindset that thinks MMY can do no wrong.The independent teachers "illegally" holding courses are doing fine but the ones actually teaching I don't know about there isn't much interest out there these days.The last national centre was owned by international and they put the money to the pundit project. A shame as I was living there and it was rather nice! But we thought it would go to a greater good so didn't min as we had another old mansion to live in, then they sold that. The money collected that got "donated" was for a new sthpatya place to compliment our first sv village but the people who have brought hopuses there will have to spend extra if they want a community centre now which is hardly fair as they sold their houses to buy the sv ones and then got stung for a 20% compulsory donation to international. A few did pull out, I would have been livid, but then MMY closed the TM movement in England for the flimsiest of reasons. I have been told on very good authority that if we get some more sv villages together we will be allowed back. I for one think we should go our seperate ways if only to save a bit of money! Now there's a new twist - If you build more SV villiages we'll let you back in this one has fund raising possibilities. JohnY I think this 20% "donation" on SV homes comes from the fact no-one is learning at the moment due to high price of TM. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cartoons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/20/06 8:01:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You mean like TV networks consciously refusing to show images of 9/11 anymore? No, that should be shown every day. Why? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Gita-death in one's own dharma (was Re: Mind Modelling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff anonyff@ wrote: Judy, I did not think your point was the taking on of the dharma of another, OK, I wasn't sure. but I do think there are some similarities between attuning one's mind/consciousness to the mind/consciousness of another, whether or not the intent is the taking on of their dharma. I don't see how the two cannot become commingled once one attunes one mind/consciousness to that of another. I'm sure that *can* happen, but my guess is that if it's done right, it doesn't. I should think that since the whole process is about giving up one's own will, it rules out what's involved in taking on someone else's dharma; the two seem to me to be incompatible. Re: your second point, I have tried, with some degree of success, to look at the 20+ years within the TM org. as a learning experience. There's certainly nothing I can do to recapture any of them. It still seems such a shame that so many intelligent, well- meaning people spent so many years of their lives, some are still deeply entrenched, and end up, after so many years, with little to show for the years. And I'm not even talking about anything fancy, I'm talking the very basics, such as a decent place to live, a decent car to get around, the ability to pay for repairs as needed. Even more, though, as many of us are now in our late 50s (and beyone) I'm talking about the ability to go out of life with some dignity. Well, I certainly wish you the best in attaining that dignity, whether it's via material support or inner strength and tranquility, or preferably both. It's just that in my own experience, the less I dwell on what a shame this or that was in my life, the more resources I have to face whatever is going on now. But I don't think it hurts to vent on occasion! There were many implicit and explicit promises made and many other carrots dangled. The movement leaned hard on devotion and service to the nobelest of causes. In light of recertification and rajas, some of it is much less ethical than the nastiest of business scandals. The venting is a minor thing, for sure. JohnY REcertification and rajas are less ethical than the neastiest of business scandals? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arizona any misdemeanor committed while wearing a red mask is considered a felony. Arizona when being attacked by a criminal or burglar, you may only protect yourself with the same weapon that the other person possesses. Never heard either of these before, though the first sounds plausible given the wild-west background. Certainly, in a state where it is legal to shoot someone who has broken into your house merely because they have forced themselves into your house and are still inside, the second doesn't make any sense at all (doesn't mean that it doesn't exist of course). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'New Light on Beatlesâ Split with Maharishi'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I wonder if that's what's behind the George Harrison / MMY apology thing. I wonder if Chopra invented a story to show that he was a good friend of MMY and the Beatles, and got them talking again, because that would make him, Chopra, look good, and important. Harrison is dead and MMY is crazy, so who's to deny it. Does Chopra need the publicity? I don't see the TMO pushing this story and someone(s) seems to be pushing it. Why else would it appear in so many venues. To me, the proliferation of this article just *screams* PR Agency. IMO it's clearly an attempt by Chopra's PR firm to get him into the press again, to prop up the sagging sales of his six recent books and CDs and pave the way for the six that have been announced for the next few months. Yup - strange bedfellows and all that ... sort of the reverse of the movement using Chopra JohnY How did the TMO use Chopra? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Pundits
Elvis lives --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a friend: it looks as if soon there will be many pundits working in one spot in India the some could come here after meeting our visa requirements the plan is still alive Rick pundits are thus by this report increasing near Jabalpur India its center or nearly so. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yet another article- G harrison/Maharsihi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (FWIW, I've *never* heard anybody say Maharishi said it so it must be true.) Have you really not heard that? Perhaps it's a typically English way of losing an argument. The interesting thing about this discussion is that according to MMY, he took this same path with Guru Dev of attuning one's thinking to that of the teacher. Isn't this mood making? I can see how constant exposure to an enlightened person will accelerate evolution but a lot of whats said about this sounds like forcing the proccess from the gross levels. MMY, according to what he was quouted as saying, tried to anticipate whatever Gurudev wanted him to DO, not think... If it's true that when you do this, you take on all the qualities of mind of the teacher, what does that say about the qualities of MMY's mind that are so often criticized here? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Gita-death in one's own dharma (was Re: Mind Modelling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff anonyff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: That's my impression too. The point isn't to absorb the teacher's qualities of *mind* but his/her qualities of *consciousness*. Moreover, it's the process of surrender itself, I should think, that does most of the work of structuring freedom. This discussion, and Judy's point (everyone's collectively, really) brough to mind the passage from the Gita (Gita scholars chime in here) where it says (paraphrased) ...better to die in one's own dharma than trying to take on the dharma of another... I know that this has really had to come into play in my own life, realizing that all that I took and and tried to be via my long years with the TM org were attempts at living someone elses vision of how my life should be lived. And I've seen this struggle in so many others. Some have successfully managed to imbibe qualites/ways of living that, initially, seemed so alien, and they truly made them their own. Others, like me, strained to be a certain way and in many ways it backfired. I feel like I wasted years of my life, from age 30-40, knowing and experiencing my life as anything but a success but unwilling/unable to escape from the deep rut I had dug myself into from taking on a massive belief system that clearly wasn't working but which I clung to in the hopes I was wrong and any second now it was going to work. This never happened until I decided to get out and even then (15+ years ago) and now, I struggle with the whole thing. A huge problem I think as many of the original TM Teachers I know were told and sincerely believed they would be enlightened in 5 years. They are all in poverty now as I will be unless I get my act together! Who all?Most of the early TM teachers *I* have met seem to be doing quite well, either in retirement or whatever. The movement promises so much and while the evolution is real it doesn't lead to what you expect. Most of it is such crap but obviously really appeals to the seeker. Look on the bright side everyone I know who has been holding down a job paying a mortgage all these years is really jealous of our evolutionary lives. The grass is always greener... Perhaps the government will take pity on us and give us a fat pension as a reward for all our coherence creating. (I hope you can tell that's a joke) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition
For some lifestreams the saying Brahman is the charioteer goes down as Brahman is the chauffer of a Lincoln Navigator Super stretch limo that includes computer controlled dish antenna TV on a 30 inch lcd screen with wet bar, refrigator, microwave and lovely attendants to make all life smooth and easy. For other lifestreams the limo and the chariot get left in the garage and Brahman shows up with the bridle, bit, saddle, spurs and whips and you can guess who is the steed. In either case life gets lived but it sure appears different to each lifestream and the many variations to the theme. Doer or non doer it is kind of in the percieving of how it is being lived but it is lived. That is all one needs to now, life goes on and don't try to stop it or get in the way. Tom T Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cartoons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: In a message dated 2/20/06 8:01:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, shempmcgurk@ writes: You mean like TV networks consciously refusing to show images of 9/11 anymore? No, that should be shown every day. Why? Dietary concerns. Americans need their minimum daily requirement of fear. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unusual laws
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Arizona when being attacked by a criminal or burglar, you may only protect yourself with the same weapon that the other person possesses. One wonders what women are supposed to do if some pervert starts waving his dick at them. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition
--- tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: For other lifestreams the limo and the chariot get left in the garage and Brahman shows up with the bridle, bit, saddle, spurs and whips and you can guess who is the steed. Let's leave the kink at home, Tom, or we'll be back on the adults only listings at Yahoo!. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greetings from the disillusioned of the UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/21/06 8:29 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 2/20/06 4:48 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your notion that MUM was always planning not to bring in pundits makes no sense at all. If the intention was to have a place for Mother Divine, the group that has moved into the VC trailers, then the contruction would have completely different, instead of designed to house pundits two to a room, with shared bathroom facilities. I agree with the above, but sometimes I think that Maharishi never intended to send them, and was just humoring Bob Wynne. Denise Denniston-Gerace's comment on this issue is that MMY wants to make Vedic City a major pilgrimage point in the USA for Hindus, so of course he wants the pundits there. True. I saw the rendering of an incredible temple complex that would cost hundreds of millions of dollars to build. It would be fine by me if it got built, but I don't know where the money would come from. I predict the plan to make vedic city, iowa a pilgrimage center for hindus will be even more successful than MMY's plan to make (doug henning's) vedaland more popular than disneyworld, though not as successful as his plan to make hagelin president. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greetings from the disillusioned of the UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I predict the plan to make vedic city, iowa a pilgrimage center for hindus will be even more successful than MMY's plan to make (doug henning's) vedaland more popular than disneyworld, though not as successful as his plan to make hagelin president. A fairly safe prediction. :-) I wonder whether one of the major factors involved in the failure of these ideas is the near-total lack of familiarity on the part of Maharishi and the TMO higher-ups with the common people they think they are appealing to. I mean (a question for those of you who might know), how long has it *been* since Maharishi met someone face to face who does not practice TM and who has the money to buy their way into his presence? Ten years? Fifteen years? Longer? All that time, as far as I know, the *only* people he has interfaced with are the Truest of the True Believers, complete Yes-men and Yes-women who *share* his disdain for and distance from the common people of the planet. The *arrogance* of it all is not unlike George W. Bush pretending to understand and care about the problems of the middle class in America. Bush not only knows nothing about them; chances are that he hasn't even *talked* with any of them in his entire life. He's *famous* for wanting to be surrounded only by people of his class. These projects are meant to appeal to Maharishi's *fantasies* of what people are like and what they want, not what people are really like and what they want. No wonder they don't work. As Jimi Hendrix once sang: And so castles made of sand slip into the sea, eventually Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greetings from the disillusioned of the UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I predict the plan to make vedic city, iowa a pilgrimage center for hindus will be even more successful than MMY's plan to make (doug henning's) vedaland more popular than disneyworld, though not as successful as his plan to make hagelin president. A fairly safe prediction. :-) I wonder whether one of the major factors involved in the failure of these ideas is the near-total lack of familiarity on the part of Maharishi and the TMO higher-ups with the common people they think they are appealing to. I mean (a question for those of you who might know), how long has it *been* since Maharishi met someone face to face who does not practice TM and who does not have the money to buy their way into his presence? Ten years? Fifteen years? Longer? All that time, as far as I know, the *only* people he has interfaced with are the Truest of the True Believers, complete Yes-men and Yes-women who *share* his disdain for and distance from the common people of the planet. The *arrogance* of it all is not unlike George W. Bush pretending to understand and care about the problems of the middle class in America. Bush not only knows nothing about them; chances are that he hasn't even *talked* with any of them in his entire life. He's *famous* for wanting to be surrounded only by people of his class. These projects are meant to appeal to Maharishi's *fantasies* of what people are like and what they want, not what people are really like and what they want. No wonder they don't work. As Jimi Hendrix once sang: And so castles made of sand slip into the sea, eventually Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greetings from the disillusioned of the UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: Has anyone asked for a refund? JohnY Yes it's wimpish not to complain but so few ever do it amazes me! I doubt anyone ever asked for a refund as you have to be a real believer to donate that much in the first place, and so probably of the mindset that thinks MMY can do no wrong. The independent teachers illegally holding courses are doing fine but the ones actually teaching I don't know about there isn't much interest out there these days. The last national centre was owned by international and they put the money to the pundit project. A shame as I was living there and it was rather nice! But we thought it would go to a greater good so didn't min as we had another old mansion to live in, then they sold that. The money collected that got donated was for a new sthpatya place to compliment our first sv village but the people who have brought hopuses there will have to spend extra if they want a community centre now which is hardly fair as they sold their houses to buy the sv ones and then got stung for a 20% compulsory donation to international. A few did pull out, I would have been livid, but then MMY closed the TM movement in England for the flimsiest of reasons. I have been told on very good authority that if we get some more sv villages together we will be allowed back. I for one think we should go our seperate ways if only to save a bit of money! Now there's a new twist - If you build more SV villiages we'll let you back in this one has fund raising possibilities. JohnY I think this 20% donation on SV homes comes from the fact no-one is learning at the moment due to high price of TM. No Hugh, If the 20% donation is what I think it is, it happens because people are willing to pay it (or stupid enough to, depending on your point of view.) How can there be movement related expenses in Scorpion Land, if there is no movement? JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: View from new NC property
If you look in the upper left of the photo there's a big smiling demon that, strangely enough, looks like Earl! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a view from Purusha's new property near Ashevill, NC Attached Image: highwindy_view.jpg [Image removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Gita-death in one's own dharma (was Re: Mind Modelling)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff anonyff@ wrote: Judy, I did not think your point was the taking on of the dharma of another, OK, I wasn't sure. but I do think there are some similarities between attuning one's mind/consciousness to the mind/consciousness of another, whether or not the intent is the taking on of their dharma. I don't see how the two cannot become commingled once one attunes one mind/consciousness to that of another. I'm sure that *can* happen, but my guess is that if it's done right, it doesn't. I should think that since the whole process is about giving up one's own will, it rules out what's involved in taking on someone else's dharma; the two seem to me to be incompatible. Re: your second point, I have tried, with some degree of success, to look at the 20+ years within the TM org. as a learning experience. There's certainly nothing I can do to recapture any of them. It still seems such a shame that so many intelligent, well- meaning people spent so many years of their lives, some are still deeply entrenched, and end up, after so many years, with little to show for the years. And I'm not even talking about anything fancy, I'm talking the very basics, such as a decent place to live, a decent car to get around, the ability to pay for repairs as needed. Even more, though, as many of us are now in our late 50s (and beyone) I'm talking about the ability to go out of life with some dignity. Well, I certainly wish you the best in attaining that dignity, whether it's via material support or inner strength and tranquility, or preferably both. It's just that in my own experience, the less I dwell on what a shame this or that was in my life, the more resources I have to face whatever is going on now. But I don't think it hurts to vent on occasion! There were many implicit and explicit promises made and many other carrots dangled. The movement leaned hard on devotion and service to the nobelest of causes. In light of recertification and rajas, some of it is much less ethical than the nastiest of business scandals. The venting is a minor thing, for sure. JohnY REcertification and rajas are less ethical than the neastiest of business scandals? Less ethical because they took advantage of good will, sort of like defrauding the Make a Wish Foundation. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yet another article- G harrison/Maharsihi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (FWIW, I've *never* heard anybody say Maharishi said it so it must be true.) Have you really not heard that? Perhaps it's a typically English way of losing an argument. I've certainly heard MMY sez... but not the second part, although I'm sure in many cases the person was *thinking* the second part. I'd be really surprised to find that anyone has ever actually *uttered* the second part. The interesting thing about this discussion is that according to MMY, he took this same path with Guru Dev of attuning one's thinking to that of the teacher. Isn't this mood making? I can see how constant exposure to an enlightened person will accelerate evolution but a lot of whats said about this sounds like forcing the proccess from the gross levels. It does sound like that, doesn't it? But maybe it works differently when you're doing it with someone in a really exalted state of consciousness. Mood-making usually involves the ego; maybe when you're totally committed to surrending to the master, it overrides the ego completely. I dunno, just speculating! It's a time-honored path, at any rate. It would be interesting to hear MMY explain it in this context. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mind Modeling
on 2/21/06 11:32 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's my impression too. The point isn't to absorb the teacher's qualities of *mind* but his/her qualities of *consciousness*. Yet when Maharishi described his attunement to Guru Dev, he referred to his ability to anticipate his specific desires. Also, Maharishi always expressed his wish for his followers to be in tune with his thinking. Also, in the Gita commentary, Maharishi talks about the disciple putting aside his own ways of thinking and feeling, and conforming to those of the master. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
on 2/22/06 3:40 AM, hugheshugo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard that MMY was once asked why Muslims, in general, were always so angry. He replied by saying that if it was your first time on two feet, you'd be angry too. I have heard that MMY said deserts follow Islam round the world Shame no-ones compiled a definitive MMY quote book, that would make interesting reading. He also said with regard to Christianity: The religion of the desert is terrorizing the Mississippi. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 2/22/06 3:40 AM, hugheshugo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard that MMY was once asked why Muslims, in general, were always so angry. He replied by saying that if it was your first time on two feet, you'd be angry too.I have heard that MMY said "deserts follow Islam round the world" Shame no-ones compiled a definitive MMY quote book, that would make interesting reading. He also said with regard to Christianity: "The religion of the desert is terrorizing the Mississippi." These are both very insightful comments IMO.People who are incarnating among these desert peoples are the same genetic descendents of peoples who survived mass starvation after the last ice age. A number of bizarre factors accompany these desert peoples: traditions of male and female genital mutilation, swaddling of babies to prevent crying, cranial deformation, and so on. Scientists who have studied desertification and global prana depletion (which inevitably accompanies desertification) note that the people who inhabit these regions will also possess the most hierarchical and patriarchal systems of belief, often including a severe lack of rights for both women and children. I would add tribal gods as opposed to universal gods seem to be a common component: "my god or you die" type thing. Reichians point out that these are also highly "armoured" peoples--cultures which indoctrinate and engender a tense muscular armor passed down since the time of the original mass starvation which prevents the free flow of life force/prana/orgone: bioenergetic bondage/domination and sadomasochism. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greetings from the disillusioned of the UK
In addition to not wishing to communicate with anyone other than lackies, I suspect that MMY also tells himself stories to explain away the lack of $ucce$$ of his $cheme$. Possibly the tale about him throwing our The Beatles is one of his own? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 markmeredith@ wrote: I predict the plan to make vedic city, iowa a pilgrimage center for hindus will be even more successful than MMY's plan to make (doug henning's) vedaland more popular than disneyworld, though not as successful as his plan to make hagelin president. A fairly safe prediction. :-) I wonder whether one of the major factors involved in the failure of these ideas is the near-total lack of familiarity on the part of Maharishi and the TMO higher-ups with the common people they think they are appealing to. I mean (a question for those of you who might know), how long has it *been* since Maharishi met someone face to face who does not practice TM and who does not have the money to buy their way into his presence? Ten years? Fifteen years? Longer? All that time, as far as I know, the *only* people he has interfaced with are the Truest of the True Believers, complete Yes-men and Yes-women who *share* his disdain for and distance from the common people of the planet. The *arrogance* of it all is not unlike George W. Bush pretending to understand and care about the problems of the middle class in America. Bush not only knows nothing about them; chances are that he hasn't even *talked* with any of them in his entire life. He's *famous* for wanting to be surrounded only by people of his class. These projects are meant to appeal to Maharishi's *fantasies* of what people are like and what they want, not what people are really like and what they want. No wonder they don't work. As Jimi Hendrix once sang: And so castles made of sand slip into the sea, eventually Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fw: Muslim Jokes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goofed up the link try this one: Furor Over Cartoons Pits Muslim Against Muslim http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/22/international/middleeast/22cartoons.h\ tml?hpex=1140584400en=e85120f56c914a0aei=5094partner=homepage JohnY That's a great article. Friedman's commentary today is spot on, too: http://select.nytimes.com/2006/02/22/opinion/22friedman.html?hp Empty Pockets, Angry Minds I have no doubt that the Danish cartoons mocking the Prophet Muhammad have caused real offense to many Muslims. I'm glad my newspaper didn't publish them. But there is something in the worldwide Muslim reaction to these cartoons that is excessive, and suggests that something else is at work in this story. It's time we talked about it. To understand this Danish affair, you can't just read Samuel Huntington's classic, The Clash of Civilizations. You also need to read Karl Marx, because this explosion of Muslim rage is not just about some Western insult. It's also about an Eastern failure. It is about the failure of many Muslim countries to build economies that prepare young people for modernity and all the insult, humiliation and frustration that has produced. Today's world has become so wired together, so flattened, that you can't avoid seeing just where you stand on the planet just where the caravan is and just how far ahead or behind you are. In this flat world you get your humiliation fiber-optically, at 56K or via broadband, whether you're in the Muslim suburbs of Paris or Kabul. Today, Muslim youth are enraged by cartoons in Denmark. Earlier, it was a Newsweek story about a desecrated Koran. Why? When you're already feeling left behind, even the tiniest insult from afar goes to the very core of your being because your skin is so thin. India is the second-largest Muslim country in the world, but the cartoon protests here, unlike those in Pakistan, have been largely peaceful. One reason for the difference is surely that Indian Muslims are empowered and live in a flourishing democracy. India's richest man is a Muslim software entrepreneur. But so many young Arabs and Muslims live in nations that have deprived them of any chance to realize their full potential. The Middle East Media Research Institute, called Memri, just published an analysis of the latest employment figures issued by the U.N.'s International Labor Office. The I.L.O. study, Memri reported, found that the Middle East and North Africa stand out as the region with the highest rate of unemployment in the world: 13.2 percent. That is worse than in sub-Saharan Africa. While G.D.P. in the Middle East-North Africa region registered an annual increase of 5.5 percent from 1993 to 2003, productivity, the measure of how efficiently these resources were used, increased by only about 0.1 percent annually better than only one region, sub-Saharan Africa. The Arab world is the only area in the world where productivity did not increase with G.D.P. growth. That's because so much of the G.D.P. growth in this region was driven by oil revenues, not by educating workers to do new things with new technologies. Nearly 60 percent of the Arab world is under the age of 25. With limited job growth to absorb them, the I.L.O. estimates, the region is spinning out about 500,000 more unemployed people each year. At a time when India and China are focused on getting their children to be more scientific, innovative thinkers, educational standards in much of the Muslim world particularly when it comes to science and critical inquiry are not keeping pace. Pervez Hoodbhoy, a professor of nuclear physics at Quaid-i-Azam University in Islamabad, Pakistan, bluntly wrote the following in Global Agenda 2006, the journal of the recent Davos World Economic Forum: Pakistan's public (and all but a handful of private) universities are intellectual rubble, their degrees of little consequence. ... According to the Pakistan Council for Science and Technology, Pakistanis have succeeded in registering only eight patents internationally in 57 years. ... [Today] you seldom encounter a Muslim name in scientific journals. Muslim contributions to pure and applied science measured in terms of discoveries, publications, patents and processes are marginal. ... The harsh truth is that science and Islam parted ways many centuries ago. In a nutshell, the Muslim experience consists of a golden age of science from the ninth to the 14th centuries, subsequent collapse, modest rebirth in the 19th century, and a profound reversal from science and modernity, beginning in the last decades of the 20th century. This reversal appears, if anything, to be gaining speed. No wonder so many young people in this part of the world are unprepared, and therefore easily enraged, as they encounter modernity. And no wonder backward religious leaders and dictators in places like Syria and Iran who have miserably failed their youth
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mind Modeling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/21/06 11:32 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's my impression too. The point isn't to absorb the teacher's qualities of *mind* but his/her qualities of *consciousness*. Yet when Maharishi described his attunement to Guru Dev, he referred to his ability to anticipate his specific desires. Also, Maharishi always expressed his wish for his followers to be in tune with his thinking. Also, in the Gita commentary, Maharishi talks about the disciple putting aside his own ways of thinking and feeling, and conforming to those of the master. With regard to the first and third of these, I'd guess that the qualities-of-mind aspect is the *vehicle*, not the main event, of the process. The idea is to get the ego out of the way, neutralize it, so it doesn't interfere with attunement on the level of consciousness. With regard to the second, I'm not sure MMY was talking about personal guru-disciple relationships like what he had with Guru Dev, or that he thought of being in tune with his thinking as a means of development of consciousness per se. It seems to me for that to be the case, one would have to be in nearly constant personal contact with the master. I mean, any chief executive is going to want the people in his company to be in tune with his/her thinking. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard that MMY was once asked why Muslims, in general, were always so angry. He replied by saying that if it was your first time on two feet, you'd be angry too. My wild hypothesis is that especially those Muslim men whose cc is done later in life tend to be angry because they may realize that they are in average about half an inch shorter than they could be, due to cc. That would mean some 4 inches in body height! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People who are incarnating among these desert peoples are the same genetic descendents of peoples who survived mass starvation after the last ice age. A number of bizarre factors accompany these desert peoples: traditions of male and female genital mutilation, swaddling of babies to prevent crying, cranial deformation, and so on. Scientists who have studied desertification and global prana depletion (which inevitably accompanies desertification) note that the people who inhabit these regions will also possess the most hierarchical and patriarchal systems of belief, often including a severe lack of rights for both women and children. I would add tribal gods as opposed to universal gods seem to be a common component: my god or you die type thing. Reichians point out that these are also highly armoured peoples--cultures which indoctrinate and engender a tense muscular armor passed down since the time of the original mass starvation which prevents the free flow of life force/prana/orgone: bioenergetic bondage/domination and sadomasochism. So Vaj, in your View, has there ever been any positive acts or contibutions by Arabs or Muslims? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Sasha
I have loved Sasha Cohen's skating for years. And appreciate her quieter demeur demeanor over other skaters. And I applaud her top standing in the short program last night. But I saw this picture this morning and it made me laugh. Even the best hit some rough patches of ice occasionally. http://www.corriere.it/Hermes%20Foto/2003/02_Febbraio/28/0HB190NP--450x360.jpg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Bode - Satva
I wrote the following letter to the New York Times last weekend. They refused to publish it. Well just goes to show how low the Times' standards have sunk in recent years. :) The letter has a reference to the Gita: Pitiful are those that live for the fruits of action. Know that you have control over action alone, not over its fruits. so it must be relevant. :) == Your article stated [Miller] continued his run of mediocrity Monday in the giant slalom, finishing in a tie for sixth. I wish I could be that mediocre in skiing or in any areas of my life. A fifth in downhill, a sixth in GS, a near gold in the combined, and a fast run (fastest at that point?) in Super G when some freak thing bounced him out of the course (did you see his recovery? He should have gotten an honorary gold for that). Your writer, perhaps your paper, exemplifies what is so shallow about Olympic media coverage. For you, its all about medals. Quite a corruption of the Olympic spirit. Bode exemplifies what the Olympics used to be and was meant to be. Its all about the run. Seeking perfection. Doing ones best in the moment, each and every moment. Going all out. Being creative and couragous enough to put it all on the line every moment, to break new boundaries. An ancient book of the East says Pitiful are those that live for the fruits of action. Know that you have control over action alone, not over its fruits. This is the wisdom and path of liberation. To me, of any athlete, Bode best lives and exemplifies the profundity of these words. I could give a rat's posterior if Bode wins all or no medals. He is a joy is watch. He is in the Moment. He is the Olympics. Medals be damned. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
On Feb 22, 2006, at 11:34 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People who are incarnating among these desert peoples are the same genetic descendents of peoples who survived mass starvation after the last ice age. A number of bizarre factors accompany these desert peoples: traditions of male and female genital mutilation, swaddling of babies to prevent crying, cranial deformation, and so on. Scientists who have studied desertification and global prana depletion (which inevitably accompanies desertification) note that the people who inhabit these regions will also possess the most hierarchical and patriarchal systems of belief, often including a severe lack of rights for both women and children. I would add tribal gods as opposed to universal gods seem to be a common component: "my god or you die" type thing. Reichians point out that these are also highly "armoured" peoples--cultures which indoctrinate and engender a tense muscular armor passed down since the time of the original mass starvation which prevents the free flow of life force/prana/orgone: bioenergetic bondage/domination and sadomasochism. So Vaj, in your View, has there ever been any positive acts or contibutions by Arabs or Muslims? Port administration? :-)Of course there has been--was that a real question? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 22, 2006, at 11:34 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: People who are incarnating among these desert peoples are the same genetic descendents of peoples who survived mass starvation after the last ice age. A number of bizarre factors accompany these desert peoples: traditions of male and female genital mutilation, swaddling of babies to prevent crying, cranial deformation, and so on. Scientists who have studied desertification and global prana depletion (which inevitably accompanies desertification) note that the people who inhabit these regions will also possess the most hierarchical and patriarchal systems of belief, often including a severe lack of rights for both women and children. I would add tribal gods as opposed to universal gods seem to be a common component: my god or you die type thing. Reichians point out that these are also highly armoured peoples--cultures which indoctrinate and engender a tense muscular armor passed down since the time of the original mass starvation which prevents the free flow of life force/prana/orgone: bioenergetic bondage/domination and sadomasochism. So Vaj, in your View, has there ever been any positive acts or contibutions by Arabs or Muslims? Port administration? :-) haha, good one. Though ironic for a desert people. Of course there has been--was that a real question? Yes. It was real. Your post could be read (not the same as intended) as a deep, absolutist, distorted universal diatribe against all Arabs and all Muslims. Per my question, I was curious if you were actually aware that despite the alleged bizarre factors, prana depleted, hierarchical and patriarchal (gasp --the horror), tribal-god praying consticted prana flowing nature of these apparent beasts, that they could and actually did lead the world in many if not most pursuits during Europe's Dark Ages and even into the Renassaince. (Probably not as advanced as the Mayans of similar periods, but thats another story.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
With all due respect, Vaj, I think that your description of desert peoples below is limited to one particular stretch of desert -- North Africa and the Middle East. The generalizations you make do not seem to apply to the desert cultures of America (Native Americans) or to the many desert cultures of Tibet and China, AFAIK. Many of the three desert cultures I mention above were matriarchal, did *not* practice genital mutilation, had much more of a balance between rights of women and men, etc. In other words, it ain't the desert that's a factor here, it's just one particular desert. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Rick Archer wrote: He also said with regard to Christianity: The religion of the desert is terrorizing the Mississippi. These are both very insightful comments IMO. People who are incarnating among these desert peoples are the same genetic descendents of peoples who survived mass starvation after the last ice age. A number of bizarre factors accompany these desert peoples: traditions of male and female genital mutilation, swaddling of babies to prevent crying, cranial deformation, and so on. Scientists who have studied desertification and global prana depletion (which inevitably accompanies desertification) note that the people who inhabit these regions will also possess the most hierarchical and patriarchal systems of belief, often including a severe lack of rights for both women and children. I would add tribal gods as opposed to universal gods seem to be a common component: my god or you die type thing. Reichians point out that these are also highly armoured peoples--cultures which indoctrinate and engender a tense muscular armor passed down since the time of the original mass starvation which prevents the free flow of life force/prana/orgone: bioenergetic bondage/domination and sadomasochism. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
Well Shemp and Spraig both live in or near the desert, so your theory that desert people are bizzare and promote bizzare ideas has some empirical support. :) But it doesn't yet explain Barry. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People who are incarnating among these desert peoples are the same genetic descendents of peoples who survived mass starvation after the last ice age. A number of bizarre factors accompany these desert peoples: traditions of male and female genital mutilation, swaddling of babies to prevent crying, cranial deformation, and so on. Scientists who have studied desertification and global prana depletion (which inevitably accompanies desertification) note that the people who inhabit these regions will also possess the most hierarchical and patriarchal systems of belief, often including a severe lack of rights for both women and children. I would add tribal gods as opposed to universal gods seem to be a common component: my god or you die type thing. Reichians point out that these are also highly armoured peoples--cultures which indoctrinate and engender a tense muscular armor passed down since the time of the original mass starvation which prevents the free flow of life force/prana/orgone: bioenergetic bondage/domination and sadomasochism. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I heard that MMY was once asked why Muslims, in general, were always so angry. He replied by saying that if it was your first time on two feet, you'd be angry too. My wild hypothesis is that especially those Muslim men whose cc is done later in life tend to be angry because they may realize that they are in average about half an inch shorter than they could be, due to cc. That would mean some 4 inches in body height! Card, did what you said actually mean something to you? If so, could you possibly explain it to those of us who can't figure it out? Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I heard that MMY was once asked why Muslims, in general, were always so angry. He replied by saying that if it was your first time on two feet, you'd be angry too. My wild hypothesis is that especially those Muslim men whose cc is done later in life tend to be angry because they may realize that they are in average about half an inch shorter than they could be, due to cc. That would mean some 4 inches in body height! Card, did what you said actually mean something to you? If so, could you possibly explain it to those of us who can't figure it out? Thanks. Too much Aquavit in the Sauna? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Shemp and Spraig both live in or near the desert, so your theory that desert people are bizzare and promote bizzare ideas has some empirical support. :) But it doesn't yet explain Barry. It does, actually. :-) After the age of 14, I lived in Morocco and the deserts of the Southwestern US for decades. I feel most at home in high desert environments. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: People who are incarnating among these desert peoples are the same genetic descendents of peoples who survived mass starvation after the last ice age. A number of bizarre factors accompany these desert peoples: traditions of male and female genital mutilation, swaddling of babies to prevent crying, cranial deformation, and so on. Scientists who have studied desertification and global prana depletion (which inevitably accompanies desertification) note that the people who inhabit these regions will also possess the most hierarchical and patriarchal systems of belief, often including a severe lack of rights for both women and children. I would add tribal gods as opposed to universal gods seem to be a common component: my god or you die type thing. Reichians point out that these are also highly armoured peoples--cultures which indoctrinate and engender a tense muscular armor passed down since the time of the original mass starvation which prevents the free flow of life force/prana/orgone: bioenergetic bondage/domination and sadomasochism. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: Well Shemp and Spraig both live in or near the desert, so your theory that desert people are bizzare and promote bizzare ideas has some empirical support. :) But it doesn't yet explain Barry. It does, actually. :-) After the age of 14, Before or after the genital mutilation? I lived in Morocco Good hash in the early 60's, I imagine. and the deserts of the Southwestern US for decades. I feel most at home in high desert environments. I knew Vaj's deep theory couldn't be wrong. I knew it! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: People who are incarnating among these desert peoples are the same genetic descendents of peoples who survived mass starvation after the last ice age. A number of bizarre factors accompany these desert peoples: traditions of male and female genital mutilation, swaddling of babies to prevent crying, cranial deformation, and so on. Scientists who have studied desertification and global prana depletion (which inevitably accompanies desertification) note that the people who inhabit these regions will also possess the most hierarchical and patriarchal systems of belief, often including a severe lack of rights for both women and children. I would add tribal gods as opposed to universal gods seem to be a common component: my god or you die type thing. Reichians point out that these are also highly armoured peoples--cultures which indoctrinate and engender a tense muscular armor passed down since the time of the original mass starvation which prevents the free flow of life force/prana/orgone: bioenergetic bondage/domination and sadomasochism. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel most at home in high desert environments. So did the Lizard King (TMer). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: Well Shemp and Spraig both live in or near the desert, so your theory that desert people are bizzare and promote bizzare ideas has some empirical support. :) But it doesn't yet explain Barry. It does, actually. :-) After the age of 14, Before or after the genital mutilation? I did try to wear it down a bit through overuse, but that's about as close as it got. :-) I lived in Morocco Good hash in the early 60's, I imagine. The times, and moi, were both too innocent to notice that it was there. I didn't discover such treats until much later, back in the US. and the deserts of the Southwestern US for decades. I feel most at home in high desert environments. I knew Vaj's deep theory couldn't be wrong. I knew it! I wouldn't go that far. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:19 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:Per my question, I was curious if you were actually aware that despite the alleged "bizarre factors", "prana depleted", "hierarchical and patriarchal" (gasp --the horror), tribal-god praying consticted prana flowing nature of these apparent beasts, that they could and actually did lead the world in many if not most pursuits during Europe's Dark Ages and even into the Renassaince. This is part myth, part fact. The Arabs were great *transmitters* of knowledge from other cultures and only occasionally originators. Long story. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:19 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: Per my question, I was curious if you were actually aware that despite the alleged bizarre factors, prana depleted, hierarchical and patriarchal (gasp --the horror), tribal-god praying consticted prana flowing nature of these apparent beasts, that they could and actually did lead the world in many if not most pursuits during Europe's Dark Ages and even into the Renassaince. This is part myth, part fact. The Arabs were great *transmitters* of knowledge from other cultures and only occasionally originators. Long story. Story may be the operative word. As I study more history, it appears most if not all major cultures have bee *transmitters*, users, and borrowers of knowledge from other cultures -- as others have been of them. Lots more interaction between the Mediteranian, Northern Africa, Middle East, China, India etc. than previously thought or acknowledged. But I suppose you view it mostly came from India. I used to too. But your recent post hardly presents you as an unbiased observer of Arab or Islamic history. Or any history for that matter. As an aside, China it appears was a major naval and exploratory force 1000+ years ago with ships far exceeding the size and carrying capacity of other cultures. And interestingly, the zero, as store of value,and placeholder has been found in Mayan works 3000 BC, before any recorded use of it in India. And we are all ancestors of one or several migrations out of Central Africa 40,000 + years ago. So apparently all subsequent cultures ripped off the Afficans, I mean us. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fw: Muslim Jokes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@ wrote: Well, I'm of a different opinion. I'd probably be quite (over)sensative to any Scandinavian jokes if the rest of the world was ripping our wealth from us harrasing us infiltrating our governments hunting us fighting us invading us humiliating us forcing us to our knees. They are desperate. I can see it is very comforting looking at them as being different from and inferior to us. Sooner or later a whiplash is bound to occur though, that's common sense. Better make it softer by not creating any more terrible karma. Arrogance can only last so long. It's lasted for almost 800 years, since the Crusades. And with reason. Muslims have been treated like the niggers of the world since then, Actually, Barry, black Africans and those of black African descent have been treated like the niggers of the world since then, NOT Muslims. It is the opposite of what you say above: Muslims and Arabs in general actively and vigorously persued a policy of slave-trading in said black Africans...indeed, even to this day. starting with a systematic campaign on the part of Europeans to put them down and regard them as less than human after those same Europeans got their butts kicked in the Crusades themselves. That said, what we're talking about is, in Buddhist terminology, *attachment*. The people who are overreacting to these cartoons are angry because they are *attached* to their beliefs. They cannot tell the difference between someone poking fun at those beliefs and someone attacking them physically. They honestly believe that they *are* their beliefs. The *same* thing happened in Europe and America with regard to Christianity. A bunch of attached people grew so fearful of anyone laughing at the things they held sacred or treating them lightly that they killed hundreds of thousands of people for doing it. Remember the Inquisition? The solution is not, in my opinion, to cave, to submit to these dogma-bullies, but to *continue* to express oneself -- whether that expression happens as humor, or academic criticism, or in whatever fashion it manifests itself. If a bunch of people hadn't stood up for their right to think for themselves, we'd still have the Inquisition. Oh...wait...we still *do* have the Inquisition. It was officially disbanded in the 1950s, but the current Pope brought it back. Never mind. :-) Anyway, as you can tell, I'm a fan of humor and laughter with regard to spirituality and spiritual beliefs. I don't have the exact quote with me, but here's the gist of what one teacher said on the subject: Any spiritual organization that has lost the ability to laugh at the things it considers holy for fear of losing their way has already lost their way. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is part myth, part fact. The Arabs were great *transmitters* of knowledge from other cultures and only occasionally originators. Long story. The distinction between originators and users of knoweldge is pretty funny. If the originators are so smart, why aren't/weren't they using the knowldge? Smart enough to originate it but too dull to appreciated its value and use it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- Vaj wrote: People who are incarnating among these desert peoples are the same genetic descendents of peoples who survived mass starvation after the last ice age. ... Vaj, what are your sources for these observations? I know Steiner and Spengler made sweeping generalizations about peoples and cultures, but I haven't read them, and don't know who else is on the list. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Getting Rid of Negativity -- Unburdening Yourself ... Counseling
AS I read these postings, I am moved to offer to counseling anyone who wants to get rid of the negativity reflected in the many postings... this will be a great boon to all of us since such negative feelings can disturb all of our lives .. if you would like to unburden yourself please contact me -- of course one of the pieces of ourselves that we most like to hold onto is our darkness .. please let it go .. it is not you .. it is not really you at all .. you are light ... you are consciousness itself .. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
On Feb 22, 2006, at 2:19 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is part myth, part fact. The Arabs were great *transmitters* of knowledge from other cultures and only occasionally originators. Long story. The distinction between originators and users of knoweldge is pretty funny. If the originators are so smart, why aren't/weren't they using the knowldge? Smart enough to "originate" it but too dull to appreciated its value and use it? They were using it, it's just that good ideas that lead to innovation are always in demand, so they spread.I particularly enjoyed _Cathedral, Forge and Waterwheel_ which is a history of engineering innovation in the west, during the "dark ages". To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
On Feb 22, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote:--- Vaj wrote: People who are incarnating among these desert peoples are the same genetic descendents of peoples who survived mass starvation after the last ice age. ... Vaj, what are your sources for these observations? I know Steiner and Spengler made sweeping generalizations about peoples and cultures, but I haven't read them, and don't know who else is on the list. I was thinking of the Saharasia theory of James Demeo http://www.saharasia.org/...but also the desertification theories/observations of Wilhelm Reich. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I heard that MMY was once asked why Muslims, in general, were always so angry. He replied by saying that if it was your first time on two feet, you'd be angry too. My wild hypothesis is that especially those Muslim men whose cc is done later in life tend to be angry because they may realize that they are in average about half an inch shorter than they could be, due to cc. That would mean some 4 inches in body height! Card, did what you said actually mean something to you? If so, could you possibly explain it to those of us who can't figure it out? Thanks. Yes, it did, but because the subject matter is so delicit, I wanted to camouflage it a bit! cc = circumcision they = they or their willies Years ago I saw in a mens' magazine several pictures of male organs mentioning their length. Those with the glans uncovered were in average about half an inch shorter than the other ones, as far as I can recall... That measure might be the ultimate indicator of masculinity, or, then again, praps not! :0 Men who are uncertain of their masculinity are prone to anger, aren't they? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I heard that MMY was once asked why Muslims, in general, were always so angry. He replied by saying that if it was your first time on two feet, you'd be angry too. My wild hypothesis is that especially those Muslim men whose cc is done later in life tend to be angry because they may realize that they are in average about half an inch shorter than they could be, due to cc. That would mean some 4 inches in body height! Card, did what you said actually mean something to you? If so, could you possibly explain it to those of us who can't figure it out? Thanks. Yes, it did, but because the subject matter is so delicit, I wanted to camouflage it a bit! cc = circumcision they = they or their willies Years ago I saw in a mens' magazine several pictures of male organs mentioning their length. Those with the glans uncovered were in average about half an inch shorter than the other ones, as far as I can recall... That measure might be the ultimate indicator of masculinity, or, then again, praps not! :0 Men who are uncertain of their masculinity are prone to anger, aren't they? Yup, I was right. Too much Aquavit in the sauna. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Getting Rid of Negativity -- Unburdening Yourself ... Counseling
on 2/22/06 1:33 PM, James Duke at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AS I read these postings, I am moved to offer to counseling anyone who wants to get rid of the negativity reflected in the many postings... this will be a great boon to all of us since such negative feelings can disturb all of our lives .. if you would like to unburden yourself please contact me -- of course one of the pieces of ourselves that we most like to hold onto is our darkness .. please let it go .. it is not you .. it is not really you at all .. you are light ... you are consciousness itself .. Do you see FFL as a form of therapy, James, or are we just getting muddier by wallowing in it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
on 2/22/06 2:06 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I heard that MMY was once asked why Muslims, in general, were always so angry. He replied by saying that if it was your first time on two feet, you'd be angry too. My wild hypothesis is that especially those Muslim men whose cc is done later in life tend to be angry because they may realize that they are in average about half an inch shorter than they could be, due to cc. That would mean some 4 inches in body height! Card, did what you said actually mean something to you? If so, could you possibly explain it to those of us who can't figure it out? Thanks. Yes, it did, but because the subject matter is so delicit, I wanted to camouflage it a bit! cc = circumcision they = they or their willies Years ago I saw in a mens' magazine several pictures of male organs mentioning their length. Those with the glans uncovered were in average about half an inch shorter than the other ones, as far as I can recall... That measure might be the ultimate indicator of masculinity, or, then again, praps not! :0 Men who are uncertain of their masculinity are prone to anger, aren't they? But what's the reference to 4 in body height? Are you saying that circumcision stunts overall body growth? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com - David OJ - Learning TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:29:42 -0800 Dear TM teachers and Sidhas, I recently heard that many people are not learning TM because they go on the Internet and read a lot of negativity. People are not learning TM because: the price is exorbitant; numerous beneficial competing techniques are now available; 99% of TM teachers have been decertified and not allowed to teach; recertified teachers tend to come across as culty to normal folks; local tm teachers are focused on real estate projects not teaching anyway; the tmo has generated much well deserved ill will over the years based on how it's dealt with people and other spiritual mov'ts. Negativity on the web is an insignificant factor on initiations IMO. In fact the TMO PR machine itself probably turns off more people with its press releases on kings, sat yuga, tearing down the capitals of europe, trying to sell $trillions in phony bonds, denoucing democracy, etc. etc. Does David OJ really think online chat among skeptics turns off more people to TM than MMY comparing Bush to Hitler and calling the entire country of England demonic?? Anyway, I'm glad David OJ is doing his website - hopefully it will stimulate intelligent discussion among scientists on the ME. IMO, his first job should be to inspire a genuinely objective scientific team to replicate one of the decent ME studies - until then no amount of statistical talk will neutralize skepticism about them. I am appalled at the ignorance and hostility rampant on the Web that has gone uncorrected. I intend to address these claims and shed some factual information on them on my new web site, which is called TruthAboutTM.com. This is material that we have developed over the years in dealing with these issues. As you will see on my Homepage, I am taking the stance of someone who is very familiar with the research and the TM organization, but who is no longer officially affiliated with it. My intention is that this will be a resource for you to arm yourself for dealing with these issues, and the place that you can direct others to, including reporters, who may want more information about any of these points. The web site addresses such issues as are all meditation techniques the same?, and the usual questions about cults, religion, court cases, and criticisms of the research. In addition, I intend TruthAboutTM.com to be a resource of the latest information on the research, including research on Transcendental Consciousness, Cosmic Consciousness, and the Maharishi Effect. The reader will be able to download: · Annotated Bibliography of the Collected Papers, Volumes 1-5, 430 papers Covering the Period from 1970-1990 · List of 219 papers on TM Research, 1990-Present · List of 51 studies on the Maharishi Effect, plus another nine review papers · List of 160 journals where TM research has been published · Summaries of key studies on the Maharishi Effect · and much more. I hope that you will have time to look over the web site, and to make suggestions, or to make further points, or to improve on any of the points. As you will see, it is a work in progress, which will probably go on for some time. But I felt that there is enough posted now that it could be useful to you, and I would appreciate your feedback. Jai Guru Dev, David David Orme-Johnson, PhD SeagroveArtist.com Click picture to see recent works. 191 Dalton Dr. Seagrove Beach, FL 32459 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 850-231-2866 home 850-231-9199 fax 850-830-5846 cell Davi d¹s Research: Orme-JohnsonResearch.net Rhoda¹s Real Estate: http://www.RhodaTheRealtor.com http://www.friendatthebeach.net Need a room for the night? Or a room for guests? Go to www.ARoomatTheInn.com or click on www.TheInnatSeacrestBeach.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
on 2/22/06 2:16 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, thank you for your courage, honesty and the beautiful painting. If all Movement higher-ups who did this sort of thing, including Maharishi, were as straightforward, instead of trying to maintain facades, people would forgive them, gain respect for them, and move on. I wonder if OJ was retired due to this incident. If so, that's very strange - his incident is chicken feed compared to the well known antics of the 2 top people there. Par for the course. I have a friend who was kicked off campus because he was doing landscaping or some outdoor work and some girl was standing naked in her window. He dropped his shovel and stared. Couldn't help himself. She saw and reported him. End of story. Seems rather innocent compared to the things Bevan is alleged to have done. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/22/06 2:06 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I heard that MMY was once asked why Muslims, in general, were always so angry. He replied by saying that if it was your first time on two feet, you'd be angry too. My wild hypothesis is that especially those Muslim men whose cc is done later in life tend to be angry because they may realize that they are in average about half an inch shorter than they could be, due to cc. That would mean some 4 inches in body height! Card, did what you said actually mean something to you? If so, could you possibly explain it to those of us who can't figure it out? Thanks. Yes, it did, but because the subject matter is so delicit, I wanted to camouflage it a bit! cc = circumcision they = they or their willies Years ago I saw in a mens' magazine several pictures of male organs mentioning their length. Those with the glans uncovered were in average about half an inch shorter than the other ones, as far as I can recall... That measure might be the ultimate indicator of masculinity, or, then again, praps not! :0 Men who are uncertain of their masculinity are prone to anger, aren't they? But what's the reference to 4 in body height? Are you saying that circumcision stunts overall body growth? I'm such a lousy mathematician that I have hard time explaining that but I think the length of ones erect penis is typically about one tenth of one's body height, so that was just for comparison on how much the half an inch difference actually means relatively (4 to 5 inches in body height?), phew! of one Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] All this (creation) is the dwelling of the Administrator, the Creator.
http://www.mum.edu/TheReview/#8 Ishavasya Upanishad, 1 All this (creation) is the dwelling of the Administrator, the Creator. ... It is from Yoga that Maharishi has given us the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi® programs, as well as Maharishi Yoga(SM) asanas. The main book of Yoga is the Yoga Sutras of Maharishi Patanjali. It has four chapters. One of the chapters describes the nature of pure consciousness. It has a chapter on practice and another on the TM-Sidhi program. The Yoga Sutras are a set of concentrated expressions of knowledge For example the second Yoga Sutra is, Yogas chitta vritti nirodhah, which means, Yoga is the least excited state of mind. This is a very good description of the state of Yoga. The word Sutra also means thread threads that stitch together Unity. So the Yoga Sutras is a Vedic text about developing total consciousness, which means total brain functioning. We experience anything by virtue of our brain functioning. Let us compare: Yoga Sutras The Brain 4 Chapters 4 Lobes The Vedic text about total brain functioning has four chapters, with different contents. The brain itself has four major functional and structural divisions. Let us look more closely. The brain has a number of folds, called gyri, on its surface. Each of these gyri has a different structure and function. The Yoga Sutras has a set number of sutras that give the entire knowledge of how to structure total brain functioning. Let us compare: Yoga Sutras The Brain 195 sutras 195 gyri This striking correspondence between the Yoga Sutras, which is the Vedic text about the brain, and the brain itself indicates that the Vedic cognition of Natural Law and the expression of Natural Law, the human physiology, are intimately related. In fact, the Veda and Vedic Literature are the fundamental Laws of Nature at the basis of the structure and function of every aspect of our physiology. One more example: First Chapter Occipital Lobe 51 sutras 51 gyri For each of the chapters of the Yoga Sutras, the number of sutras exactly matches the number of gyri of the corresponding lobe of the brain. The structure of Yoga and the structure of the human brain are identical. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The influence of Vedic words is not limited to time and space
http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=11406323736205768 'Vedic sounds are the reverberations of the Unified Fieldthe Constitution of the Universewhich administers the universe with perfect order,' Maharishi said. 'These sounds are the words or 'structuring dynamics'of this transcendental field of life. The influence of Vedic words is not limited to time and space. The coherent influence of one Vedic word pronounced from the level of the transcendent from anywhere in the world will spread frictionlessly and instantly to create coherence everywhere in the world.' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I heard that MMY was once asked why Muslims, in general, were always so angry. He replied by saying that if it was your first time on two feet, you'd be angry too. My wild hypothesis is that especially those Muslim men whose cc is done later in life tend to be angry because they may realize that they are in average about half an inch shorter than they could be, due to cc. That would mean some 4 inches in body height! Card, did what you said actually mean something to you? If so, could you possibly explain it to those of us who can't figure it out? Thanks. Yes, it did, but because the subject matter is so delicit, I wanted to camouflage it a bit! cc = circumcision they = they or their willies Years ago I saw in a mens' magazine several pictures of male organs mentioning their length. Those with the glans uncovered were in average about half an inch shorter than the other ones, as far as I can recall... That measure might be the ultimate indicator of masculinity, or, then again, praps not! :0 Men who are uncertain of their masculinity are prone to anger, aren't they? Yup, I was right. Too much Aquavit in the sauna. :) Nope, too much sanyama on naasikaa-antar-madhya (Shiva-suutra III 44)? :] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Getting Rid of Negativity -- Unburdening Yourself ... Counseling
Oh go f*ck yourself you mood-making twit! Counsel this () -Peter L. Sutphen, Psy.D. Licensed Clinical Psychologist Impulse Control Disorder Raja of Coconut Creek, Florida --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/22/06 1:33 PM, James Duke at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AS I read these postings, I am moved to offer to counseling anyone who wants to get rid of the negativity reflected in the many postings... this will be a great boon to all of us since such negative feelings can disturb all of our lives .. if you would like to unburden yourself please contact me -- of course one of the pieces of ourselves that we most like to hold onto is our darkness .. please let it go .. it is not you .. it is not really you at all .. you are light ... you are consciousness itself .. Do you see FFL as a form of therapy, James, or are we just getting muddier by wallowing in it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you had seen the spew on this list about MMY's nonexistent sex life, you would understand that facts don't matter to the list lizards here -- it's a mentality that explains the many gossip rags on the supermarket racks, providing cheap giggles for people with no life worthy of the name human. And yet you continue to hang out here bob. How odd! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
on 2/22/06 3:04 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you had seen the spew on this list about MMY's nonexistent sex life, you would understand that facts don't matter to the list lizards here -- it's a mentality that explains the many gossip rags on the supermarket racks, providing cheap giggles for people with no life worthy of the name human. And this site will enable you to put anything Bob Brigante says into perspective: http://www.geocities.com/bbrigante/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
on 2/22/06 3:24 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this really OJ, Rick? I'm really impressed that he'd just come out straight like that. Yes, it is. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Getting Rid of Negativity -- Unburdening Yourself ... Counseling
on 2/22/06 3:27 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh go f*ck yourself you mood-making twit! Counsel this () -Peter L. Sutphen, Psy.D. Licensed Clinical Psychologist Impulse Control Disorder Raja of Coconut Creek, Florida LOL! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting Rid of Negativity -- Unburdening Yourself ... Counseling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh go f*ck yourself you mood-making twit! Counsel this () -Peter L. Sutphen, Psy.D. Licensed Clinical Psychologist Impulse Control Disorder Raja of Coconut Creek, Florida The Doctor of Psychology Degree (Psy.D.) is the degree of choice for those interested in the highest level of practitioner or hands-on career in Clinical Psychology. For students seeking an academic research career, the Ph.D. remains the degree of choice. The Psy.D. is the degree of choice for students who wish to apply psychology to human problems, behavior and practice at the highest professional level. The Psy.D. in Clinical Psychology is a professional degree and is comparable to doctoral degrees in the fields of medicine, dentistry and law. The Psy.D. psychologist is a principle health care provider, clinician or consultant capable of delivering outstanding direct and indirect services to patients, clients or organizations. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/22/06 3:04 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you had seen the spew on this list about MMY's nonexistent sex life, you would understand that facts don't matter to the list lizards here -- it's a mentality that explains the many gossip rags on the supermarket racks, providing cheap giggles for people with no life worthy of the name human. And this site will enable you to put anything Bob Brigante says into perspective: http://www.geocities.com/bbrigante/ mumbull, a critical look at the Maharishi University of Management and other enterprises of the Transcendental Meditation movement, is published by Bob Brigante, a satisfied TM customer and fan of Maharishi since 1968 And clearly a sterling example of the Bliss of the Transcendent Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/22/06 3:24 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this really OJ, Rick? I'm really impressed that he'd just come out straight like that. Yes, it is. I agree that its nice to have a TMO / MIU leader step up to the plate. And I am probably an awful person (well, actually that has been well established by others), but over the years of Clinton / Bush etc, AND the TMO, I have become more sensitive to parsing and spinning. Not saying David is doing that. Its just the jaded side of me: About two and a half years ago I made a pass [passes are often witty and sweet. For such a fuss to be made sounds more direct, blatant and perhaps coercive] at a kitchen staff person on a weekend course. She was not a course participant [how much of an age difference? Over 40 years? ], and I was not naked [in your underwear? or a suit and tie?]. And contrary to the rumor, I have never before or since made a pass [ok. No passes as you may variably define them. Anything else? Any sexual relations, other than with own wife, with MUI, MUM, MERU, or TMO students, staff, cps, wives, etc.? ] at any course participant, or staff [OK, anyone else-- a student at MUM, perhaps, a superradiance participant, MD, wife of a townsperson, etc?]. We all know the story of unstressing [Was he rounding or giving the course? If he was giving the course,and prone to such heavy unstressing, he should never be teaching such. If he got so f*cked up by weekend rounding, he should not be rounding.] [I rounded for 6 and 12 month stints and never made a pass. The goat incident doesn't count] ; it is no excuse, but it is a reality. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/22/06 3:24 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this really OJ, Rick? I'm really impressed that he'd just come out straight like that. Yes, it is. Good for him. Admits an error in judgement. I'm sure Rhoda gave him hell! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Getting Rid of Negativity -- Unburdening Yourself ... Counseling
Did Sharlynn send you, James? Is there any way to return the favor? Sal On Feb 22, 2006, at 1:33 PM, James Duke wrote: AS I read these postings, I am moved to offer to counseling anyone who wants to get rid of the negativity reflected in the many postings... this will be a great boon to all of us since such negative feelings can disturb all of our lives .. if you would like to unburden yourself please contact me -- of course one of the pieces of ourselves that we most like to hold onto is our darkness .. please let it go .. it is not you .. it is not really you at all .. you are light ... you are consciousness itself ..
[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
Over the years, I have known a number of people who teach at colleges or universities. A common theme is how often women come on to them. Even as campus guidelines have tightened over the years. Making passess is quite unneecssary. Its not the MO. Its simply a matter of saying NO or I'll in my office working around 8. Thats why David's highly parsed note appears odd to me. I have never before or since made a pass. OK. Few if any professors who have sex with students, staff or even CPs do make passes. Maybe David just has an innocent way about him, and is oblivious to the ways of student or staff / factulty affairs. Hard to believe, but perhaps. Of course, it raises the question -- is this any of our business? For the most part, probably not. But student faculty affairs at a university promoting celibacy among its students, seems a bit inappropriate. And David's highly parsed response just raises more questions than it answers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 2/22/06 3:24 PM, Peter at drpetersutphen@ wrote: Is this really OJ, Rick? I'm really impressed that he'd just come out straight like that. Yes, it is. I agree that its nice to have a TMO / MIU leader step up to the plate. And I am probably an awful person (well, actually that has been well established by others), but over the years of Clinton / Bush etc, AND the TMO, I have become more sensitive to parsing and spinning. Not saying David is doing that. Its just the jaded side of me: About two and a half years ago I made a pass [passes are often witty and sweet. For such a fuss to be made sounds more direct, blatant and perhaps coercive] at a kitchen staff person on a weekend course. She was not a course participant [how much of an age difference? Over 40 years? ], and I was not naked [in your underwear? or a suit and tie?]. And contrary to the rumor, I have never before or since made a pass [ok. No passes as you may variably define them. Anything else? Any sexual relations, other than with own wife, with MUI, MUM, MERU, or TMO students, staff, cps, wives, etc.? ] at any course participant, or staff [OK, anyone else-- a student at MUM, perhaps, a superradiance participant, MD, wife of a townsperson, etc?]. We all know the story of unstressing [Was he rounding or giving the course? If he was giving the course,and prone to such heavy unstressing, he should never be teaching such. If he got so f*cked up by weekend rounding, he should not be rounding.] [I rounded for 6 and 12 month stints and never made a pass. The goat incident doesn't count] ; it is no excuse, but it is a reality. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some lifestreams the saying Brahman is the charioteer goes down as Brahman is the chauffer of a Lincoln Navigator Super stretch limo that includes computer controlled dish antenna TV on a 30 inch lcd screen with wet bar, refrigator, microwave and lovely attendants to make all life smooth and easy. For other lifestreams the limo and the chariot get left in the garage and Brahman shows up with the bridle, bit, saddle, spurs and whips and you can guess who is the steed. In either case life gets lived but it sure appears different to each lifestream and the many variations to the theme. Doer or non doer it is kind of in the percieving of how it is being lived but it is lived. That is all one needs to now, life goes on and don't try to stop it or get in the way. Tom T Thought it was Krisha who was the charioteer. Seems to methat Brahman is the charioteer, chariot, horses, reigns and the bloody battle also. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
On Feb 22, 2006, at 4:52 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: Thats why David's highly parsed note appears odd to me. I have never before or since made a pass. OK. Few if any professors who have sex with students, staff or even CPs do make passes. Maybe David just has an innocent way about him, and is oblivious to the ways of student or staff / factulty affairs. Hard to believe, but perhaps. The sentence, And contrary to the rumor, I have never before or since made a pass at any course participant, or staff. is easily the most interesting part, IMO, since it pretty much leaves open the question of whether or not he was making passes at anyone *not* a course participant, or staff...like students, or anyone else. Of course, it raises the question -- is this any of our business? Or course not, but since when did that stop any conversations here? For me, at least, it's not what any of these current or former TMO bigwigs do or didn't do, it's the hypocrisy--telling everyone else to do one set of things, and then surreptitiously doing the opposite. Is that possibly why they were asked to leave? If so, how do the others keep getting away with it? And what about Rhoda's response? I think I see the makings of a soap opera here. For the most part, probably not. But student faculty affairs at a university promoting celibacy among its students, seems a bit inappropriate. And David's highly parsed response just raises more questions than it answers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/22/06 3:24 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this really OJ, Rick? I'm really impressed that he'd just come out straight like that. Yes, it is. I'm actually impressed that he reads FFL...which he alluded to in his post (unless you have been emailing him posts, Rick?). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com - David OJ - Learning TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:29:42 -0800 Dear TM teachers and Sidhas, I recently heard that many people are not learning TM because they go on the Internet and read a lot of negativity. People are not learning TM because: the price is exorbitant; numerous beneficial competing techniques are now available; ...and the door has opened by none other than MMY himself for non- certified TM teachers teaching TM outside the TMO: May 24, 2003 Press Conference http://mou.org/media/replay.cgi Maharishi: What I have taught, because it has it's eternal authenticity in the vedic literature and you should know that, how many? 30 - 40 thousand teachers of TM I have trained and many of them have gone on their own and they may not call it Maharishi's TM but they are teaching it in some different name here and there. So there's a lot of these, artificial things are going on, doesn't matter, as long as the man is getting something useful to make his life better, we are satisfied. 99% of TM teachers have been decertified and not allowed to teach; recertified teachers tend to come across as culty to normal folks; local tm teachers are focused on real estate projects not teaching anyway; the tmo has generated much well deserved ill will over the years based on how it's dealt with people and other spiritual mov'ts. Negativity on the web is an insignificant factor on initiations IMO. In fact the TMO PR machine itself probably turns off more people with its press releases on kings, sat yuga, tearing down the capitals of europe, trying to sell $trillions in phony bonds, denoucing democracy, etc. etc. Does David OJ really think online chat among skeptics turns off more people to TM than MMY comparing Bush to Hitler and calling the entire country of England demonic?? Anyway, I'm glad David OJ is doing his website - hopefully it will stimulate intelligent discussion among scientists on the ME. IMO, his first job should be to inspire a genuinely objective scientific team to replicate one of the decent ME studies - until then no amount of statistical talk will neutralize skepticism about them. I am appalled at the ignorance and hostility rampant on the Web that has gone uncorrected. I intend to address these claims and shed some factual information on them on my new web site, which is called TruthAboutTM.com. This is material that we have developed over the years in dealing with these issues. As you will see on my Homepage, I am taking the stance of someone who is very familiar with the research and the TM organization, but who is no longer officially affiliated with it. My intention is that this will be a resource for you to arm yourself for dealing with these issues, and the place that you can direct others to, including reporters, who may want more information about any of these points. The web site addresses such issues as are all meditation techniques the same?, and the usual questions about cults, religion, court cases, and criticisms of the research. In addition, I intend TruthAboutTM.com to be a resource of the latest information on the research, including research on Transcendental Consciousness, Cosmic Consciousness, and the Maharishi Effect. The reader will be able to download: · Annotated Bibliography of the Collected Papers, Volumes 1-5, 430 papers Covering the Period from 1970-1990 · List of 219 papers on TM Research, 1990-Present · List of 51 studies on the Maharishi Effect, plus another nine review papers · List of 160 journals where TM research has been published · Summaries of key studies on the Maharishi Effect · and much more. I hope that you will have time to look over the web site, and to make suggestions, or to make further points, or to improve on any of the points. As you will see, it is a work in progress, which will probably go on for some time. But I felt that there is enough posted now that it could be useful to you, and I would appreciate your feedback. Jai Guru Dev, David David Orme-Johnson, PhD SeagroveArtist.com Click picture to see recent works. 191 Dalton Dr. Seagrove Beach, FL 32459 davidoj@ 850-231-2866 home 850-231-9199 fax 850-830-5846 cell Davi d¹s Research: Orme-JohnsonResearch.net Rhoda¹s Real Estate: http://www.RhodaTheRealtor.com http://www.friendatthebeach.net Need a room for the night? Or a room for guests? Go to www.ARoomatTheInn.com or click on www.TheInnatSeacrestBeach.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing
[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
This whole DOJ thing smells so insincere. So we are to beleive that for years DOJ stood by and watched Domash, Haglin Bevin and other faculty fairly openly get tons of student / staff / community wife nookie, and undoubtlely heard their exploits -- as he worked closely with them. And then after 30 years, FINALLY he decided he would, for the VERY FIRST time, venture down the road towards student nookiedom. BUT was so inept at making a pass (such a quaint word) he apparently pissed the target off so much that she raised a huge ruckus causing a minor scandal? What is wrong with this picture? 1) Is this the type of thing one STARTS at age 62 (or so) for the VERY FIRST TIME? 2) Do women who receive ONE single gentle and discrete pass by a person of stature generally raise a huge ruckus about it? Or do they smile, take it as a compliment, firmly say no (if they are not inclined) and wait for repeated and cruder attempts before raising a ruckus? 3) Does one issue a highly parased, highly specific denial of some limited events if they are not trying trying to divert attention from a broader set of events? Maybe, but why? 4) Does a well published, world traveled, mature, professor of psychology make that inept of a pass? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 22, 2006, at 4:52 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: Thats why David's highly parsed note appears odd to me. I have never before or since made a pass. OK. Few if any professors who have sex with students, staff or even CPs do make passes. Maybe David just has an innocent way about him, and is oblivious to the ways of student or staff / factulty affairs. Hard to believe, but perhaps. The sentence, And contrary to the rumor, I have never before or since made a pass at any course participant, or staff. is easily the most interesting part, IMO, since it pretty much leaves open the question of whether or not he was making passes at anyone *not* a course participant, or staff...like students, or anyone else. Of course, it raises the question -- is this any of our business? Or course not, but since when did that stop any conversations here? For me, at least, it's not what any of these current or former TMO bigwigs do or didn't do, it's the hypocrisy--telling everyone else to do one set of things, and then surreptitiously doing the opposite. Is that possibly why they were asked to leave? If so, how do the others keep getting away with it? And what about Rhoda's response? I think I see the makings of a soap opera here. For the most part, probably not. But student faculty affairs at a university promoting celibacy among its students, seems a bit inappropriate. And David's highly parsed response just raises more questions than it answers. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting Rid of Negativity -- Unburdening Yourself ... Counseling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh go f*ck yourself you mood-making twit! Counsel this () -Peter L. Sutphen, Psy.D. Licensed Clinical Psychologist Impulse Control Disorder Raja of Coconut Creek, Florida Oh my gosh, I didn't know you were a Raja, Raja Peter! :-) PS. maybe he needs the business ... JohnY --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 2/22/06 1:33 PM, James Duke at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AS I read these postings, I am moved to offer to counseling anyone who wants to get rid of the negativity reflected in the many postings... this will be a great boon to all of us since such negative feelings can disturb all of our lives .. if you would like to unburden yourself please contact me -- of course one of the pieces of ourselves that we most like to hold onto is our darkness .. please let it go .. it is not you .. it is not really you at all .. you are light ... you are consciousness itself .. Do you see FFL as a form of therapy, James, or are we just getting muddier by wallowing in it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting Rid of Negativity -- Unburdening Yourself ... Counseling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Oh go f*ck yourself you mood-making twit! Counsel this () -Peter L. Sutphen, Psy.D. Licensed Clinical Psychologist Impulse Control Disorder Raja of Coconut Creek, Florida Oh my gosh, I didn't know you were a Raja, Raja Peter! And it appears all the coconuts are quite pleased with his reign. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bode - Satva
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote the following letter to the New York Times last weekend. They refused to publish it. Well just goes to show how low the Times' standards have sunk in recent years. :) The letter has a reference to the Gita: Pitiful are those that live for the fruits of action. Know that you have control over action alone, not over its fruits. so it must be relevant. :) == Your article stated [Miller] continued his run of mediocrity Monday in the giant slalom, finishing in a tie for sixth. I wish I could be that mediocre in skiing or in any areas of my life. A fifth in downhill, a sixth in GS, a near gold in the combined, and a fast run (fastest at that point?) in Super G when some freak thing bounced him out of the course (did you see his recovery? He should have gotten an honorary gold for that). Your writer, perhaps your paper, exemplifies what is so shallow about Olympic media coverage. For you, its all about medals. Quite a corruption of the Olympic spirit. Bode exemplifies what the Olympics used to be and was meant to be. Its all about the run. Seeking perfection. Doing ones best in the moment, each and every moment. Going all out. Being creative and couragous enough to put it all on the line every moment, to break new boundaries. An ancient book of the East says Pitiful are those that live for the fruits of action. Know that you have control over action alone, not over its fruits. This is the wisdom and path of liberation. To me, of any athlete, Bode best lives and exemplifies the profundity of these words. I just saw a segment on NBC of the explosion of sports psychologists practicing at the olympics, and the regular part of many sports teams. And that many CEOs are hiring sports psychologists to help them achieve peak performance. (It rumored Barry even hired one for the bedroom.) And what is the primary advice given by sports psychologists -- according to one interviewed? Focus on the process, not the result Krishna in the boardroom? I could give a rat's posterior if Bode wins all or no medals. He is a joy is watch. He is in the Moment. He is the Olympics. Medals be damned. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
On Feb 22, 2006, at 1:37 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:"Story" may be the operative word. As I study more history, it appears most if not all major cultures have bee *transmitters*, users, and borrowers of knowledge from other cultures -- as others have been of them. Lots more interaction between the Mediteranian, Northern Africa, Middle East, China, India etc. than previously thought or acknowledged. But I suppose you view it mostly came from India. I used to too.No, China. India as well-for example Baghdad was designed by Indian architects was there was a Sanskrit University in Mesopotamia. But your recent post hardly presents you as an unbiased observer of Arab or Islamic history. Or any history for that matter.It wasn't on the topic of history but responding to an alleged quote of Mahesh Varma on how 'deserts follow' a certain people. As an aside, China it appears was a major naval and exploratory force 1000+ years ago with ships far exceeding the size and carrying capacity of other cultures. And interestingly, the zero, as "store of value,and "placeholder" has been found in Mayan works 3000 BC, before any recorded use of it in India. And we are all ancestors of one or several migrations out of Central Africa 40,000 + years ago. So "apparently" all subsequent cultures ripped off the Afficans, I mean us. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting Rid of Negativity -- Unburdening Yourself ... Counseling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh go f*ck yourself you mood-making twit! Counsel this () Peter L. Sutphen, Psy.D. Licensed Clinical Psychologist Impulse Control Disorder Raja of Coconut Creek, Florida Kudos Peter. Post of the month. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
---MMY's non-existent sex life? (I doubt it). I'm not a first hand observer but back in 1973 when I was working at SIMS in L.A., MMY's barber spontaneously revealed an interesting experience of his in India, accidently walking by MMY's room...the door was ajar and he saw MMY in a sexual embrace with a young female. As gone over many times before, this would only show that MMY was a healthy adult with normal desires; but the fact remains that he's led people to falsely believe he's had no such experiences. That's unethical behavior on his part. Quote by St. Paul: But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise . (1Cor.,1:27). In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: If you had seen the spew on this list about MMY's nonexistent sex life, you would understand that facts don't matter to the list lizards here -- it's a mentality that explains the many gossip rags on the supermarket racks, providing cheap giggles for people with no life worthy of the name human. And yet you continue to hang out here bob. How odd! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Tradition
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: w, I smell chicken sh*t... Do you identify with it? I call it checken sh*t because you change aliases regularly- anonymous ones no less, possibly so your ongoing diatribes can't be seen as the endless mostly negative and boring rants that they are. Also, I've never seen you in the year or so I've been a part of this group contribute something original that wasn't a commentary on what someone else wrote first. Not willing to take a stand unless someone says something first, which you then 'bravely' respond to. Sorry dude, that's just chicken sh*t... More goatish in my olfactory sense ;-) Yep, Actually *Kali's* lap dog to be precise- *LOL* Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---MMY's non-existent sex life? (I doubt it). I'm not a first hand observer but back in 1973 when I was working at SIMS in L.A., MMY's barber spontaneously revealed an interesting experience of his in India, accidently walking by MMY's room...the door was ajar and he saw MMY in a sexual embrace with a young female. As gone over many times before, this would only show that MMY was a healthy adult with normal desires; but the fact remains that he's led people to falsely believe he's had no such experiences. That's unethical behavior on his part. Quote by St. Paul: But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise . (1Cor.,1:27). http://www.ratemypoo.com/ratemy/poo In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: If you had seen the spew on this list about MMY's nonexistent sex life, you would understand that facts don't matter to the list lizards here -- it's a mentality that explains the many gossip rags on the supermarket racks, providing cheap giggles for people with no life worthy of the name human. And yet you continue to hang out here bob. How odd! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yet another article- G harrison/Maharsihi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: (FWIW, I've *never* heard anybody say Maharishi said it so it must be true.) Have you really not heard that? Perhaps it's a typically English way of losing an argument. I've certainly heard MMY sez... but not the second part, although I'm sure in many cases the person was *thinking* the second part. I'd be really surprised to find that anyone has ever actually *uttered* the second part. I heard a non-TMer once say it in the context of Yogic Flying. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Greetings from the disillusioned of the UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to not wishing to communicate with anyone other than lackies, I suspect that MMY also tells himself stories to explain away the lack of $ucce$$ of his $cheme$. Possibly the tale about him throwing our The Beatles is one of his own? Possibly? But how could you tell? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Shemp and Spraig both live in or near the desert, so your theory that desert people are bizzare and promote bizzare ideas has some empirical support. :) But it doesn't yet explain Barry. Tucson is semi-arrid. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Shemp and Spraig both live in or near the desert, so your theory that desert people are bizzare and promote bizzare ideas has some empirical support. :) Well, you're half right. But it doesn't yet explain Barry. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: People who are incarnating among these desert peoples are the same genetic descendents of peoples who survived mass starvation after the last ice age. A number of bizarre factors accompany these desert peoples: traditions of male and female genital mutilation, swaddling of babies to prevent crying, cranial deformation, and so on. Scientists who have studied desertification and global prana depletion (which inevitably accompanies desertification) note that the people who inhabit these regions will also possess the most hierarchical and patriarchal systems of belief, often including a severe lack of rights for both women and children. I would add tribal gods as opposed to universal gods seem to be a common component: my god or you die type thing. Reichians point out that these are also highly armoured peoples--cultures which indoctrinate and engender a tense muscular armor passed down since the time of the original mass starvation which prevents the free flow of life force/prana/orgone: bioenergetic bondage/domination and sadomasochism. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---MMY's non-existent sex life? (I doubt it). I'm not a first hand observer but back in 1973 when I was working at SIMS in L.A., MMY's barber spontaneously revealed an interesting experience of his in India, accidently walking by MMY's room...the door was ajar and he saw MMY in a sexual embrace with a young female. As gone over many times before, this would only show that MMY was a healthy adult with normal desires; but the fact remains that he's led people to falsely believe he's had no such experiences. That's unethical behavior on his part. Quote by St. Paul: But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise . (1Cor.,1:27). The barber in the one-barber ashram shaves all the long-haired monks who don't shave themselves. Who shaves the barber? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
Is this really OJ, Rick? I'm really impressed that he'd just come out straight like that. Yes, it is. Good for him. Admits an error in judgement. I'm sure Rhoda gave him hell! Hopefully that's not all she gave him. lurk Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --- -~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TruthAboutTM.com
on 2/22/06 8:55 PM, sinhlnx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---MMY's non-existent sex life? (I doubt it). I'm not a first hand observer but back in 1973 when I was working at SIMS in L.A., MMY's barber You mean Ron Natchway? spontaneously revealed an interesting experience of his in India, accidently walking by MMY's room...the door was ajar and he saw MMY in a sexual embrace with a young female. As gone over many times before, this would only show that MMY was a healthy adult with normal desires; but the fact remains that he's led people to falsely believe he's had no such experiences. That's unethical behavior on his part. Quote by St. Paul: But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise . (1Cor.,1:27). In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante no_reply@ wrote: If you had seen the spew on this list about MMY's nonexistent sex life, you would understand that facts don't matter to the list lizards here -- it's a mentality that explains the many gossip rags on the supermarket racks, providing cheap giggles for people with no life worthy of the name human. And yet you continue to hang out here bob. How odd! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: First time on two feet
On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:55 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote:I knew Vaj's deep theory couldn't be wrong. I knew it! Actually it's called the Saharasia theory and I did not write it--nor does it say anything particularly about deserts *per se*. I would agree with Barry that they are primo places for spiritual development, but it's also worth understanding the bioenergetic basis for desertification IMO. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
