Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about. Thanks Dr. Pete! I love these people that talk about something they have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world will co-author the article with me. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about. I wasn't speaking on whether the techniques which Ravi teaches are compatible or not; I assume they would be, since I was inferring that they are what Maharishi teaches; I was just wondering how much credit he gives to Maharishi, for this teaching; In the same way, I was wondering, how much credit Deepak Chopra; Gives to Maharishi, for all the knowledge he plagerized from him. That's all. I just wanted to bitch. Nothing personal; I just think it's strange that these people teach what Maharishi teaches, and just never give him any credit. I understand. SSRS primary emphasis is on teaching his Sudarshan Kriya and secondarily on what he calls Sahaj Samadhi meditation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about. I wasn't speaking on whether the techniques which Ravi teaches are compatible or not; I assume they would be, since I was inferring that they are what Maharishi teaches; I was just wondering how much credit he gives to Maharishi, for this teaching; In the same way, I was wondering, how much credit Deepak Chopra; Gives to Maharishi, for all the knowledge he plagerized from him. That's all. I just wanted to bitch. Nothing personal; I just think it's strange that these people teach what Maharishi teaches, and just never give him any credit. It's generic dude. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Peter wrote:--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about. Thanks Dr. Pete! I love these people that talk about something they have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world will co-author the article with me. Dude, you should let Spairag and Authfriend footnote it just to be sure to maintain purity! __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
M you seem to be suggesting that since Rick has formed an opinion about MMYs sexuality that I should necessarilly trust his 'judgement', but then you go on to condemn firm believers. Again you attempt to persuade me to your viewpoint by waving Rick's 'credibility', but that is the same argument as saying look, John Lennon wrote 'Sexy Sadie', so it must be true that MMY was up to no good. But why not sift the evidence, read all the other reports of those who were there, not just John Lennon's? Why should anyone take John Lennon's word? What did he know about the matter? Read his words, confused accounts, jumbled, garbled and disjointed. Yeah, love the man, but he didn't know the truth about MMYs sexuality any better than the others on the course. And so it is with the alleged poisoning of Guru Dev, why on earth should I side with Shankaracharya Swami Swaroopanand? I never met the man and besides, in the interview with RK he was using anything he could to try and discredit him. It seems their friction goes a long way back, perhaps as far back as 1940. Now, you argue the 'girlfriends' need protection, but why doesn't Swaroopanand ever repeat and press his points again publicly? It appears that actually you and Rick ( others) are 'firm believers', but fortunately Rick is not asking me to trust his judgement, in fact he tells me:- 'You're welcome to take anything I or anything anyone else says with a grain of salt. In fact, you should.' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless there is some reason you distrust Rick's judgement--and many firm believers *may not even believe it if they hear it from one of the women who was subjected to the spiritual incest*--it's pretty damning when someone as credible as Rick talks directly, firsthand and shares the story. This is way beyond rumor, he's talked to the women. And of course we need to respect their right to heal, process and move in and not be trapped in endless questions and attacks from hundreds or thousands of questioners. So it's also important to protect those who shared this. I think you are mistaking the need to protect the abused for something unclear or contrived. It became clearer to me why this was important with the Swami Rama sex scandals where he really damaged a lot of women and few would come out and tell their stories. Those that did were subjected to a living hell. And that was a much smaller movement. On Aug 4, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Paul Mason wrote: Anyone who sets themselves above others gets notched up the measure of accountability and MMY is no exception. Sex and drugs stories sell well, but in reality there are more serious temptations for a spiritual leader and in order to determine whether or not such people exploit their positions, it is wise to keep a close eye on their behaviour. I am not at all opposed to people questioning the 'saintliness' of MMY, but I am uncomfortable that FFL no longer merely raises about his sexuality but presents the rumours as facts. Legally speaking, being the conduit of a rumour is one thing, but presenting it as fact is really quite another. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Christfest: more popular than The Beatles
On a related note, the book THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO THE BEATLES by Steve Turner came out today. I've been flipping through it and it seems pretty good. I'm shocked to find that I agree with Yoko in some of her opinions of gurus. It's a very thorough analysis of spirituality in the lives of the fab four. ===-=-=- om==-=-=- Nick Subject: ChristFest in City Park: More Popular Than the Beatles ChristFest in City Park: More Popular Than the Beatles By: Trey Merril, Entertainment Columnist Updated: 15 days ago Contemporary Christian music and the power of prayer have brought to life the spirit of Jesus at the First Annual ChristFest to be held in Tad Gormley Stadium Friday July 21 through Sunday. If my memory serves me right, it was the late John Lennon that turned the world upside down by uttering the now infamous worlds Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. ... We're more popular than Jesus now. That may have been in yesteryear but it seems that Beatles fans aren't the only ones that can command a City Park audience. The buzz is slightly different these days but as the Biblical Christ, City Park has risen from the ashes and the Beatles are now but a footnote in history. Rather than shrink and vanish, the Christian movement has grown tremendously and both contemporary Christian and Gospel music have seen a major resurrection. City Park will play host to the legions of self-proclaimed Jesus Freaks and God Squads, from July 21 to 23. What was once considered an insult these days is held as a badge of honor for the 50,000 people expected to attend. The event will feature a variety of music, motivational speakers, pastors, city and government officials, Spanish and deaf ministries, children's games, door prizes and great food. In breaking divisions, Ambassadors of Christ hope to promote unity among the Christian community. Upon completion of the ChristFest, the group plans on creating Camp Salvation, a safe haven for homeless and transient youth. The camp will be the New Orleans Headquarters for the festival promoter, Ambassadors of Christ. Their committed to showing love for people by focusing on each persons self-worth and striving to achieve the highest levels of excellence. On a final note, Lennon apologized for his remarks. The Archbishop of Boston admitted that Lennon was probably right but still some people refused to forgive him. Seems that most of those who didn't, forgot forgiveness was the ultimate lesson taught by Jesus. Take a listen to the Lennon lyrics Imagine and Give Peace a Chance. I guess we've all stuck our foot in our mouths before. His owns songs sound close to Christian doctrine to me, don't you think? . The Beatles sold out City Park Stadium on September 16, 1964 at $5 a ticket. ChristFest is free. For more information, visit www.christfestneworleans.com. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M you seem to be suggesting that since Rick has formed an opinion about MMYs sexuality that I should necessarilly trust his 'judgement', but then you go on to condemn firm believers. Again you attempt to persuade me to your viewpoint by waving Rick's 'credibility', but that is the same argument as saying look, John Lennon wrote 'Sexy Sadie', so it must be true that MMY was up to no good. But why not sift the evidence, read all the other reports of those who were there, not just John Lennon's? Why should anyone take John Lennon's word? What did he know about the matter? Read his words, confused accounts, jumbled, garbled and disjointed. Yeah, love the man, but he didn't know the truth about MMYs sexuality any better than the others on the course. And so it is with the alleged poisoning of Guru Dev, why on earth should I side with Shankaracharya Swami Swaroopanand? I never met the man and besides, in the interview with RK he was using anything he could to try and discredit him. It seems their friction goes a long way back, perhaps as far back as 1940. Now, you argue the 'girlfriends' need protection, but why doesn't Swaroopanand ever repeat and press his points again publicly? It appears that actually you and Rick ( others) are 'firm believers', but fortunately Rick is not asking me to trust his judgement, in fact he tells me:- 'You're welcome to take anything I or anything anyone else says with a grain of salt. In fact, you should.' And, besides, what is the motive in this; What is the motive for Maharishi to be involved with anything negative towards Guru Dev? What would be the motivation for Maharishi go get involved with any woman, in a secret way? Both of these things seem so out of character to me; I just write them off as complete and total nonesense. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: Unless there is some reason you distrust Rick's judgement--and many firm believers *may not even believe it if they hear it from one of the women who was subjected to the spiritual incest*--it's pretty damning when someone as credible as Rick talks directly, firsthand and shares the story. This is way beyond rumor, he's talked to the women. And of course we need to respect their right to heal, process and move in and not be trapped in endless questions and attacks from hundreds or thousands of questioners. So it's also important to protect those who shared this. I think you are mistaking the need to protect the abused for something unclear or contrived. It became clearer to me why this was important with the Swami Rama sex scandals where he really damaged a lot of women and few would come out and tell their stories. Those that did were subjected to a living hell. And that was a much smaller movement. On Aug 4, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Paul Mason wrote: Anyone who sets themselves above others gets notched up the measure of accountability and MMY is no exception. Sex and drugs stories sell well, but in reality there are more serious temptations for a spiritual leader and in order to determine whether or not such people exploit their positions, it is wise to keep a close eye on their behaviour. I am not at all opposed to people questioning the 'saintliness' of MMY, but I am uncomfortable that FFL no longer merely raises about his sexuality but presents the rumours as facts. Legally speaking, being the conduit of a rumour is one thing, but presenting it as fact is really quite another. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] I Snark, Therefore I Am (feeling better, if not superior)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Peter wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: I love these people that talk about something they have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world will co-author the article with me. Dude, you should let Spairag and Authfriend footnote it just to be sure to maintain purity! Such a feast of snarky comments! Its fun! its a nice release of frustration with stupid or at least 'limited' others. I do it. We all do. As if there is 'an other. Its sort of passive-aggressive. Or perhaps, if that is not technically correct -- its something similar. And what is the result? More snarky comments by those snarked. And what does that lead to? Yes -- you are catching on. Good insight. Whats the way out of this odd loopy mobius strip of snaky insults? Yes -- you got it. I always knew *you* were one of the bright ones. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would be the motivation for Maharishi go get involved with any woman, The same motivation for ice cream? He likes it? (These were quite shakti-dripping beautiful women.) Whats your motivation to get involved with any woman? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Paul Mason wrote:M you seem to be suggesting that since Rick has formed an opinion about MMYs sexuality that I should necessarilly trust his 'judgement', but then you go on to condemn firm believers.Well no, I think you should question everything and practice responsible, individual anarchy.I don't feel Rick has "formed an opinion" but instead went "ad fuentes", to the source and found out. This was not easy to do. Again you attempt to persuade me to your viewpoint by waving Rick's 'credibility', but that is the same argument as saying look, John Lennon wrote 'Sexy Sadie', so it must be true that MMY was up to no good.Well, honestly, I'd have to say JL has little credibility although, if correct, an interestingly accurate intuition of the situation. It's my understanding that after the course was his and Yoko's debacle with heroin. In other words, the relaxation and unstressing of Rishikesh put John in a frame of mind where he could not process his unresolved past. So he tried to numb it on heroin. With the love of his life. Given his past, this is not hard to see. What's sad is that there was no framework for processing then in the TMO (or now!). He was able to suppress it through the life of a Beatlemaniac.But really this has no bearing on Rick's first hand comments. But why not sift the evidence, read all the other reports of those who were there, not just John Lennon's? Why should anyone take John Lennon's word? What did he know about the matter? Read his words, confused accounts, jumbled, garbled and disjointed. Yeah, love the man, but he didn't know the truth about MMYs sexuality any better than the others on the course.See the above. And so it is with the alleged poisoning of Guru Dev, why on earth should I side with Shankaracharya Swami Swaroopanand? I never met the man and besides, in the interview with RK he was using anything he could to try and discredit him. It seems their friction goes a long way back, perhaps as far back as 1940.Honestly? I think it remains an unresolved question, but it's important to pose the question.We'll most likely never know. We just know that something looks suspicious. And who was there and what they did. Now, you argue the 'girlfriends' need protection, but why doesn't Swaroopanand ever repeat and press his points again publicly?The "girlfriend" really have nothing to do with Swarupanand. It appears that actually you and Rick ( others) are 'firm believers', but fortunately Rick is not asking me to trust his judgement, in fact he tells me:- 'You're welcome to take anything I or anything anyone else says with a grain of salt. In fact, you should.' And as a recorder of a biogrpahy you definitely should. But you should at least point out the questions that are raised--even if that means you have to leave the questions unanswered. The truth is, we may never really know.It's also possible that those who know are, relatively speaking, the poorest of the poor living in India. They fear the slightest problem and so remain quiet.Never forget, that money, to a poor struggling Indian, is siddhi. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Peter wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about. Thanks Dr. Pete! I love these people that talk about something they have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world will co-author the article with me. Dude, you should let Spairag and Authfriend footnote it just to be sure to maintain purity! What is the official position of the art of living organization regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing? I tried to ask him directly once and he skirted the question. I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS candy coated poison To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The other aspect is purely social and has nothing *whatsoever* to do with the biological aspect. The social aspect involves the exploitation of an unequal power relationship for selfish purposes and its negative psychological consequences. As such, of course, it is by no means unique to incestuous relationships. Like Bill's relationship to Monica? Obviously. Your point was what, exactly? It wasn't a point, it was a question. You see, in the English language the ? symbol at the end of a sentence denotes a question. As the Author's Friend you should know that without me telling you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Christfest: more popular than The Beatles
attachment: normal_forgive.jpg On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Nick wrote: On a related note, the book THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO THE BEATLES by Steve Turner came out today. I've been flipping through it and it seems pretty good. I'm shocked to find that I agree with Yoko in some of her opinions of gurus. It's a very thorough analysis of spirituality in the lives of the fab four. ===-=-=- om==-=-=- Nick Subject: ChristFest in City Park: More Popular Than the Beatles ChristFest in City Park: More Popular Than the Beatles By: Trey Merril, Entertainment Columnist Updated: 15 days ago Contemporary Christian music and the power of prayer have brought to life the spirit of Jesus at the First Annual ChristFest to be held in Tad Gormley Stadium Friday July 21 through Sunday. If my memory serves me right, it was the late John Lennon that turned the world upside down by uttering the now infamous worlds Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. ... We're more popular than Jesus now. That may have been in yesteryear but it seems that Beatles fans aren't the only ones that can command a City Park audience. The buzz is slightly different these days but as the Biblical Christ, City Park has risen from the ashes and the Beatles are now but a footnote in history. Rather than shrink and vanish, the Christian movement has grown tremendously and both contemporary Christian and Gospel music have seen a major resurrection. City Park will play host to the legions of self-proclaimed Jesus Freaks and God Squads, from July 21 to 23. What was once considered an insult these days is held as a badge of honor for the 50,000 people expected to attend. The event will feature a variety of music, motivational speakers, pastors, city and government officials, Spanish and deaf ministries, children's games, door prizes and great food. In breaking divisions, Ambassadors of Christ hope to promote unity among the Christian community. Upon completion of the ChristFest, the group plans on creating Camp Salvation, a safe haven for homeless and transient youth. The camp will be the New Orleans Headquarters for the festival promoter, Ambassadors of Christ. Their committed to showing love for people by focusing on each persons self-worth and striving to achieve the highest levels of excellence. On a final note, Lennon apologized for his remarks. The Archbishop of Boston admitted that Lennon was probably right but still some people refused to forgive him. Seems that most of those who didn't, forgot forgiveness was the ultimate lesson taught by Jesus. Take a listen to the Lennon lyrics Imagine and Give Peace a Chance. I guess we've all stuck our foot in our mouths before. His owns songs sound close to Christian doctrine to me, don't you think? . The Beatles sold out City Park Stadium on September 16, 1964 at $5 a ticket. ChristFest is free. For more information, visit www.christfestneworleans.com. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] I Snark, Therefore I Am (feeling better, if not superior)
On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:36 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Peter wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:I love these people that talk about something they have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world will co-author the article with me. Dude, you should let Spairag and Authfriend footnote it just to be sure to maintain purity! Such a feast of snarky comments! Its fun! its a nice release of frustration with "stupid or at least 'limited' others". I do it. We all do. As if there is 'an other". Its sort of passive-aggressive. Or perhaps, if that is not technically correct -- its something similar. And what is the result? More snarky comments by those snarked. And what does that lead to? Yes -- you are catching on. Good insight. Hopefully it leads to rib splitting laughter. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about. Enjoy: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/87381 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:What is the official position of the art of living organization regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing? I tried to ask him directly once and he skirted the question. I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS "candy coated poison" I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he says (gross paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM should go ahead and do it as long they do it correctly, is actually meant to refer to SSRS, not "independent" non-recertified TM teachers (as is often presupposed).Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of pranayama and meditation instruction in India where he initiated more people into inner space than any known human in historical times: millions of humans. All at once.I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote: What is the official position of the art of living organization regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing? I tried to ask him directly once and he skirted the question. I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS candy coated poison I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he says (gross paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM should go ahead and do it as long they do it correctly, is actually meant to refer to SSRS, not independent non-recertified TM teachers (as is often presupposed). Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of pranayama and meditation instruction in India where he initiated more people into inner space than any known human in historical times: millions of humans. All at once. I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event. And when we have thoughts, we silently, effortless come back to the mantra. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Paul Mason wrote: snip And so it is with the alleged poisoning of Guru Dev, why on earth should I side with Shankaracharya Swami Swaroopanand? I never met the man and besides, in the interview with RK he was using anything he could to try and discredit him. It seems their friction goes a long way back, perhaps as far back as 1940. Honestly? I think it remains an unresolved question, but it's important to pose the question. No, no. You didn't mention it in the form of a question, you mentioned it as an established fact. You said you had heard about the murder from your friend. We'll most likely never know. We just know that something looks suspicious. And who was there and what they did. What do we know looks suspicious? Who do we know was there and what do we know they did? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The other aspect is purely social and has nothing *whatsoever* to do with the biological aspect. The social aspect involves the exploitation of an unequal power relationship for selfish purposes and its negative psychological consequences. As such, of course, it is by no means unique to incestuous relationships. Like Bill's relationship to Monica? Obviously. Your point was what, exactly? It wasn't a point, it was a question. The point of your question was what, exactly? You see, in the English language the ? symbol at the end of a sentence denotes a question. As the Author's Friend you should know that without me telling you. What I know without you telling me is that you weren't asking for information. There was a point you were trying to make *in the guise of* a question. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers
Vaj wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote: Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough Sony's superficial protection scheme, here is what S. said: If people knew the real reason for using a deerskin to meditate on, there would be a great shortage of deerskins. Here's the traditional qualities of a deerskin asana: It gives special siddhis, liberates from bondage and ensures one is never short of money. Also: -subjugation of the senses -sublimation of sensuality -achieving realization or a state of total awareness -siddhis -curing diseases caused by an aggravated mind and piita and blood diseases -increases individual magnetism Akashic Records, shelf 104890344329.99231 But I have to tell you, it always creeped me out seeing people who claimed to be vegetarians sitting on a dead deer hide. The best deer hide is supposed to be black deer. Since hunting deer is illegal in India I suspect they get the hides from outside the country? One probably could get black deer hides out of Tibet. The taxidermist I got my deer hide from said there are some black deer in Texas. Deer hides really shed even when properly treated. I understand that is why antelope hides are frequently used instead. I also ordered online from a deer farm in Canada but the hides didn't have the proper treatment and really shed too easy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
I've taken and practiced the whole of SSRS's program -- at least as taught in week long advanced courses -- not TTCs, and done other tape courses -- Bhakti sutras, Ashtavakra Gita, etc. as far as was available up to 2001 or so (has a lot changed?). And have done TM for almost 40 years (yikes) and TM siddhis program. AoL is compatable with MMY's program in a strict sense. Many AoLers who are from TMland do TM meditation -- and do not take the the Aol Meditation initiation. But, in my experience, this does not mean a two-ways street of combatibility. TMO things (meditation, AV, etc...) are generally accepted in Aol (they now have there AV, so maybe there is some bias now). But Aol things would hardly be accepted in the TMO: bajans, hugging saints (pundit-ji), estatic stuff, guided meditations, mood making (per TM POV, not AoL's, eg. I belong to you embrace of 500 CPs, new age / traditional exercises of staring in to others eyes, telling life stories, sitting down and findingnothing but good things in a partner/stranger, etc. And, when I was active in AoL, it was clear there was a line. Many Aolers, when i was introduced to them as a TMer, said, another one crosses the line.. The presumption was, there is no going back. The TMO will never accept you back now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote: Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough Sony's superficial protection scheme, here is what S. said: If people knew the real reason for using a deerskin to meditate on, there would be a great shortage of deerskins. Here's the traditional qualities of a deerskin asana: It gives special siddhis, liberates from bondage and ensures one is never short of money. Also: -subjugation of the senses -sublimation of sensuality -achieving realization or a state of total awareness -siddhis -curing diseases caused by an aggravated mind and piita and blood diseases -increases individual magnetism Akashic Records, shelf 104890344329.99231 But I have to tell you, it always creeped me out seeing people who claimed to be vegetarians sitting on a dead deer hide. The best deer hide is supposed to be black deer. Since hunting deer is illegal in India I suspect they get the hides from outside the country? One probably could get black deer hides out of Tibet. The taxidermist I got my deer hide from said there are some black deer in Texas. Deer hides really shed even when properly treated. I understand that is why antelope hides are frequently used instead. I also ordered online from a deer farm in Canada but the hides didn't have the proper treatment and really shed too easy. Mine, from 1977, shed a lot, and split, tore, got quite woren, after years of sitting on it 9silk on top). I finally gave it a nice send off. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:22 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Paul Mason wrote: snip And so it is with the alleged poisoning of Guru Dev, why on earth should I side with Shankaracharya Swami Swaroopanand? I never met the man and besides, in the interview with RK he was using anything he could to try and discredit him. It seems their friction goes a long way back, perhaps as far back as 1940. Honestly? I think it remains an unresolved question, but it's important to pose the question. No, no. You didn't mention it in the form of a question, you mentioned it as an established fact. You said you had "heard about the murder" from your friend. Actually what I said was:"I first heard from one of the people mentioned in the Sexie Sadie article who interviewed one of the women. While I have not spoken to any of the women first hand, I did talk at length with this gentleman just after he talked to her--an old and close friend--and his recollection was just jaw dropping at the time. This wasn't just a rumor. He also was interestingly the first person I heard of the poisoning from."I did later add:"Yes, that he was the leading suspect. The first time I heard it was in the mid 80's after he returned from a pilgrimage to Jyotir Math and the Valley of the Flowers.Now THAT did shock me. It angered me to even hear it."This was to share my own shock, disbelief and inability to accept these events.Notice there is no mention of the word "murder" as Judy falsely claims.This is yet another example of why I ignore most of her posts: deliberate falsifications. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote: What is the official position of the art of living organization regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing? I tried to ask him directly once and he skirted the question. I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS candy coated poison I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he says (gross paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM should go ahead and do it as long they do it correctly, is actually meant to refer to SSRS, not independent non-recertified TM teachers (as is often presupposed). Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of pranayama and meditation instruction in India where he initiated more people into inner space than any known human in historical times: millions of humans. All at once. I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event. SSRS loves MMY dearly and MMY loves SSRS dearly. As SSRS said once about gurus, those who know, know and those who don't, don't. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The other aspect is purely social and has nothing *whatsoever* to do with the biological aspect. The social aspect involves the exploitation of an unequal power relationship for selfish purposes and its negative psychological consequences. As such, of course, it is by no means unique to incestuous relationships. Like Bill's relationship to Monica? Obviously. Your point was what, exactly? It wasn't a point, it was a question. The point of your question was what, exactly? You see, in the English language the ? symbol at the end of a sentence denotes a question. As the Author's Friend you should know that without me telling you. What I know without you telling me is that you weren't asking for information. There was a point you were trying to make *in the guise of* a question. Well, then, answer the question as posed and then I may decide to share the secrets of the universe with you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote: Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough Sony's superficial protection scheme, here is what S. said: If people knew the real reason for using a deerskin to meditate on, there would be a great shortage of deerskins. Here's the traditional qualities of a deerskin asana: It gives special siddhis, liberates from bondage and ensures one is never short of money. Also: -subjugation of the senses -sublimation of sensuality -achieving realization or a state of total awareness -siddhis -curing diseases caused by an aggravated mind and piita and blood diseases -increases individual magnetism Akashic Records, shelf 104890344329.99231 But I have to tell you, it always creeped me out seeing people who claimed to be vegetarians sitting on a dead deer hide. The best deer hide is supposed to be black deer. Since hunting deer is illegal in India I suspect they get the hides from outside the country? One probably could get black deer hides out of Tibet. The taxidermist I got my deer hide from said there are some black deer in Texas. Deer hides really shed even when properly treated. I understand that is why antelope hides are frequently used instead. I also ordered online from a deer farm in Canada but the hides didn't have the proper treatment and really shed too easy. Try Nauga Hyde. Doesn't shed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Could she be a TMer?
Not Exactly a Student of (Media) History (41 comments) Daryn Kagan is leaving her post as CNN morning anchor. I'm waiting till you steady yourselves from the blow. But wait, there's more. Ms. Kagan, a one-time squeeze of radio's Mr. Limbaugh, isn't leaving CNN to jump to another network at a hefty whatever in salary. Instead, she's starting up her own website, supposedly without backers, to create a community--wish we had one of those in our neighborhood--that would share inspiring stories. Here's what she's discovered during her TWELVE years as a CNN anchor: I think there is a void in the straight news business now, (which is) lacking a certain spirituality, Kagan told The Associated Press on Thursday. I think most people live in a space where they are looking for meaning in life and good in the world and that is not necessarily reflected in straight news coverage right now. . Oh, for the good old days, when William Randolph Hearst's papers, teeming with spirituality, helped people find meaning in life and good in the world. Right now? Daryn, that's never been the purpose of the news media. Did they trick you at Career Day? Did Ted Turner hypnotize you? Did it really take you twelve years to discover the sad truth about the news media? Please share the inspiring story of your moment of discovery on your website soonest. Thanks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:22 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Paul Mason wrote: snip And so it is with the alleged poisoning of Guru Dev, why on earth should I side with Shankaracharya Swami Swaroopanand? I never met the man and besides, in the interview with RK he was using anything he could to try and discredit him. It seems their friction goes a long way back, perhaps as far back as 1940. Honestly? I think it remains an unresolved question, but it's important to pose the question. No, no. You didn't mention it in the form of a question, you mentioned it as an established fact. You said you had heard about the murder from your friend. Actually what I said was: I first heard from one of the people mentioned in the Sexie Sadie article who interviewed one of the women. While I have not spoken to any of the women first hand, I did talk at length with this gentleman just after he talked to her--an old and close friend--and his recollection was just jaw dropping at the time. This wasn't just a rumor. He also was interestingly the first person I heard of the poisoning from. I did later add: Yes, that he was the leading suspect. The first time I heard it was in the mid 80's after he returned from a pilgrimage to Jyotir Math and the Valley of the Flowers. Now THAT did shock me. It angered me to even hear it. This was to share my own shock, disbelief and inability to accept these events. Events = things that actually happened. Vaj doesn't choose his words at random. Notice there is no mention of the word murder as Judy falsely claims. This is yet another example of why I ignore most of her posts: deliberate falsifications. Right. Vaj pretends that the story about the deliberate poisoning of Guru Dev somehow does not involve the question of murder, then accuses *me* of deliberate falsification. Yes, Vaj, I inadvertently got the word wrong, but only because the two are, as you know, synonymous in this context. All this is Vaj's attempt to distract attention from my point, which is that he did *not* mention the poisoning story as a question but rather as an established fact. I suppose his subsequent backpedaling is progress of a sort. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote: What is the official position of the art of living organization regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing? I tried to ask him directly once and he skirted the question. I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS candy coated poison I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he says (gross paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM should go ahead and do it as long they do it correctly, is actually meant to refer to SSRS, not independent non-recertified TM teachers (as is often presupposed). Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of pranayama and meditation instruction in India where he initiated more people into inner space than any known human in historical times: millions of humans. All at once. I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event. SSRS loves MMY dearly and MMY loves SSRS dearly. As SSRS said once about gurus, those who know, know and those who don't, don't. IF SSRS loves MMY so much, how come its never mentioned in any of their publicity materials that he was MMY's disciple? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I Snark, Therefore I Am (feeling better, if not superior)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Peter wrote: --- Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: I love these people that talk about something they have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world will co-author the article with me. Dude, you should let Spairag and Authfriend footnote it just to be sure to maintain purity! Such a feast of snarky comments! Its fun! its a nice release of frustration with stupid or at least 'limited' others. I do it. We all do. As if there is 'an other. Its sort of passive-aggressive. Or perhaps, if that is not technically correct -- its something similar. And what is the result? More snarky comments by those snarked. And what does that lead to? Yes -- you are catching on. Good insight. Whats the way out of this odd loopy mobius strip of snaky insults? Yes -- you got it. I always knew *you* were one of the bright ones. Spare the snark, spoil the seeker. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The other aspect is purely social and has nothing *whatsoever* to do with the biological aspect. The social aspect involves the exploitation of an unequal power relationship for selfish purposes and its negative psychological consequences. As such, of course, it is by no means unique to incestuous relationships. Like Bill's relationship to Monica? Obviously. Your point was what, exactly? It wasn't a point, it was a question. The point of your question was what, exactly? You see, in the English language the ? symbol at the end of a sentence denotes a question. As the Author's Friend you should know that without me telling you. What I know without you telling me is that you weren't asking for information. There was a point you were trying to make *in the guise of* a question. Well, then, answer the question as posed and then I may decide to share the secrets of the universe with you. As you know, I already did. Now you answer mine, please. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote: What is the official position of the art of living organization regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing? I tried to ask him directly once and he skirted the question. I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS candy coated poison I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he says (gross paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM should go ahead and do it as long they do it correctly, is actually meant to refer to SSRS, not independent non-recertified TM teachers (as is often presupposed). Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of pranayama and meditation instruction in India where he initiated more people into inner space than any known human in historical times: millions of humans. All at once. I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event. Except, as far as I can tell, he initiated them into his breathing technique, not meditation... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome. on 8/4/06 7:35 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, besides, what is the motive in this; What is the motive for Maharishi to be involved with anything negative towards Guru Dev? What would be the motivation for Maharishi go get involved with any woman, in a secret way? Both of these things seem so out of character to me; I just write them off as complete and total nonesense. As did I for decades. In fact, I still write the murder thing off as total nonsense. I only have evidence (the testimony of two of the women and the accounts of numerous secretaries) for the sex thing. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY : Celibacy and TMO Teachers
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 5:22 PM, new.morning wrote: Well, since your yogic powers are not sufficient to breaktrough Sony's superficial protection scheme, here is what S. said: If people knew the real reason for using a deerskin to meditate on, there would be a great shortage of deerskins. Here's the traditional qualities of a deerskin asana: It gives special siddhis, liberates from bondage and ensures one is never short of money. Also: -subjugation of the senses -sublimation of sensuality -achieving realization or a state of total awareness -siddhis -curing diseases caused by an aggravated mind and piita and blood diseases -increases individual magnetism Akashic Records, shelf 104890344329.99231 But I have to tell you, it always creeped me out seeing people who claimed to be vegetarians sitting on a dead deer hide. The best deer hide is supposed to be black deer. Since hunting deer is illegal in India I suspect they get the hides from outside the country? One probably could get black deer hides out of Tibet. The taxidermist I got my deer hide from said there are some black deer in Texas. Deer hides really shed even when properly treated. I understand that is why antelope hides are frequently used instead. I also ordered online from a deer farm in Canada but the hides didn't have the proper treatment and really shed too easy. Try Nauga Hyde. Doesn't shed. Nahi nahi. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The other aspect is purely social and has nothing *whatsoever* to do with the biological aspect. The social aspect involves the exploitation of an unequal power relationship for selfish purposes and its negative psychological consequences. As such, of course, it is by no means unique to incestuous relationships. Like Bill's relationship to Monica? Obviously. Your point was what, exactly? It wasn't a point, it was a question. The point of your question was what, exactly? You see, in the English language the ? symbol at the end of a sentence denotes a question. As the Author's Friend you should know that without me telling you. What I know without you telling me is that you weren't asking for information. There was a point you were trying to make *in the guise of* a question. Well, then, answer the question as posed and then I may decide to share the secrets of the universe with you. As you know, I already did. Now you answer mine, please. You're too snarky tonite. I think I'll let you cool off a bit. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I Snark, Therefore I Am (feeling better, if not superior)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, elastomeric_brotherhood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Peter wrote: --- Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote: I love these people that talk about something they have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world will co-author the article with me. Dude, you should let Spairag and Authfriend footnote it just to be sure to maintain purity! Such a feast of snarky comments! Its fun! its a nice release of frustration with stupid or at least 'limited' others. I do it. We all do. As if there is 'an other. Its sort of passive-aggressive. Or perhaps, if that is not technically correct -- its something similar. And what is the result? More snarky comments by those snarked. And what does that lead to? Yes -- you are catching on. Good insight. Whats the way out of this odd loopy mobius strip of snaky insults? Yes -- you got it. I always knew *you* were one of the bright ones. Spare the snark, spoil the seeker. Leave the gun, take the cannoli To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Email I just sent to an old friend who's trying to get me in the dome.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip The other aspect is purely social and has nothing *whatsoever* to do with the biological aspect. The social aspect involves the exploitation of an unequal power relationship for selfish purposes and its negative psychological consequences. As such, of course, it is by no means unique to incestuous relationships. Like Bill's relationship to Monica? Obviously. Your point was what, exactly? It wasn't a point, it was a question. The point of your question was what, exactly? You see, in the English language the ? symbol at the end of a sentence denotes a question. As the Author's Friend you should know that without me telling you. What I know without you telling me is that you weren't asking for information. There was a point you were trying to make *in the guise of* a question. Well, then, answer the question as posed and then I may decide to share the secrets of the universe with you. As you know, I already did. Now you answer mine, please. You're too snarky tonite. I think I'll let you cool off a bit. Translation: Shemp *thought* he had a point to make with his question, then after I answered it, he realized he'd goofed. If he said what the point was, he'd look really, really silly. He's hoping he'll look *less* silly if he just blows it off. Actually, he looks even sillier. A silly person trying not to look silly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
