[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

2007-03-14 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 cardemaister wrote:
  Just to make that a bit more readable(?):
  
  prakRtiM svaam avaSTabhya visRjaami punaH punaH
  bhuuta-graamam imaM kRtsnam avashaM prakRter vashaat.
  
 anadimat param brahma? 

(So, Richard, you've been reading B's posts on
AMT?)
That's how Shankara seems to read it. The reading is
a bit ungrammatical, so to speak, because an-aadi as
an obvious bahuvriihi means as such 'without beginning'. Thus,
taking 'mat' here to be a suffix of property, or whatever,
is somewhat redundant. I think Shankara explains that in this
case 'mat' is a mere verse-filler. I guess anaadimat 
is a *bit* like you'd say in English e.g. wetful instead
of mere wet.

FWIW, MMY's Giitaa-paNDitaas seem to read that line like:

anaadi MATparaM brahma (melodic accent on the syllable 'mat').

Perhaps Vyaasa, or whoever, has been just a bit mischievous.
So, if you are a dvaitin, you may read it like

anaadi-matparaM brahma

And as an advaitin you can read it like

anaadimat paraM brahma...


 
 The Field and the Knower of the Field
 
 Prakriti is the relative field, the gunas born of nature; the knower
 of the field, the Absolute, is the Purusha, the transcendental
 enjoyer. That knowledge is described in Vedanta Sutra. We are all
 transcendental, although living in material bodies. Brahman, Spirit,
 is beyond cause and effect.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Global Warming Swindle

2007-03-14 Thread claudiouk
Saw Vaj's video 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9005566792811497638
and found it interesting and almost convincing. However here is quite 
a devastating critique of its purported evidence:
 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9005566792811497638
http://environment.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,2032572,00.html



[FairfieldLife] 'Yogi as Act'?

2007-03-14 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 The Tonight Show 14 May 1968  Joe Gargoyle: Listen now, I have 
something in common with both of you. I met the guru, the Maharishi. 
And I noticed that he went out with an act—the Beach Boys. And it 
folded.
   JOHN : Yeah. Right.
   JG: What do you think of the Yogi as an act?
   JOHN : Yeah. Well, we found out that we made a mistake there.
   PAUL : We tried to persuade him against that, you know. I 
thought it was a terrible idea.
   JOHN : We believe in meditation, but not the Maharishi and his 
scene. But that's a personal mistake we made in public.
   JG: When did you find out it was a mistake?
   JOHN : Well, uhh, I can't remember the date, you know, but it 
was in India. And meditation is good, and it does what they say. It's 
like exercise or cleaning your teeth, you know. It works, but uhh, 
we've finished with that bit.
   ED McMAHON: Has he changed? Is that what…
   JOHN : Well, no. I think it's just that we're seeing him a bit 
more in perspective, you know, `cuz we're as naive as the next person 
about alot of things.
   PAUL : We get carried away with things like that, though. I 
mean, we thought he was… uhh… magic, you know—just floating around 
and everything. Flying.
   JG: Do you think the kids in America have turned him off?
   JOHN : Well, it could be something to do with it. But I wouldn't 
say, `Don't meditate' to them, because alot of them would get a great 
deal from it.
   PAUL : You know, the system is more important than all those 
things.
   JOHN : He's surrounded with, it seems like, the old 
establishment that we know so well.
   JG: Are you saying, `Meditate, but not with the Yogi'?
   PAUL : (long pause) Yeah. I mean, he's good. There's nothing 
wrong with him. But we think the system is more important than all 
the two-bit personality bit. You know, he gets sort of treated like a 
big star. He's on the road with the Beach Boys, and it's all that 
scene. And also… It folds, you know. That's the silly thing.
   (laughter)
   TB: Does he giggle as much as…
   JOHN : Yes. It's his natural asset.
   (laughter)
   JOHN : Well, you see, it depends on what way you're looking at 
it at the time. If it's not getting on your nerves, it's `Oh, what a 
happy fellow.' It depends how you feel when you look at him.
   JG: I had him on the show, and he just giggled and giggled the 
whole time. I figured there was something, maybe my tie was loose. 
Who was the first one that met the Yogi?
   JOHN : We all met him at the same time.
   JG: Can you tell us the circumstances?
   JOHN : Well, he was just doing a lecture in London at the 
Hilton. So we all went and we thought, `What a nice man.' And we were 
looking for that. You know, everybody's looking for it, but we were 
looking for it `that day' as well. And then we met him and he was 
good, you know. He's got a good thing in him. And we went along with 
it.
   JG: But now, you just got off the train, huh?
   JOHN : Right. Nice trip thank you very much.
   (laughter)
 
  
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Yahoo! Games.





[FairfieldLife] Marketing Gurus

2007-03-14 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Who has been the most successful in the West now?

Chopra?  Shri Ravi Shankara?  Ammachi?  Maharishi?  Yogananda? Others 
that rate?  The Dali Lama?


Marketing Gurus, India FinancialExpress Article:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/132348
 http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=155693
 

Beatles interview, take on the `Yogi as Act'
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/129353




[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Pearce - writer profile from the WritersNet published writers and auth

2007-03-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Peter's ex-wife, Linda Williams Pearce, was one of MMY's Rishikesh
 girlfriends. I don't know the circumstances of his allegedly losing 
 $600K, but Linda make a big splash in the S. African press about her 
 affair with MMY, and the Pearce's weren't exactly held in high 
 esteem by the TB's down there after that.

Thought that might be the connection. Thanks, Rick.

Gotta agree with those who commented on the writing
in his bio. He's gonna need an editor. Perhaps Judy
could volunteer her services.  :-)






[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

2007-03-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well it has to be said, this quote sums up my entire attitude 
 towards masturbation. 

It takes you a whole millennium to recover? Ginseng, dude.

 -Original Message-
  Curving back on my own nature I create again and again all this  
  multitude of beings helpless under the regime of nature.
 
 At the end of the millenium every material manifestation enters 
 into My nature, and at the beginning of another melllinium, by 
 My potency I again create.
 
 'Bhagavad Gita As It Is'
 Swami Bhaktivedanta Saraswati
 page 454





[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  H...
  
  Judy Stein on anti-TMers:
  * They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
  * They all lie.
  * They have concealed motives.
  * They intend to do harm to peace-loving TMers.
  * I am right about them, no matter what they say.
  * You should agree with me *because* I am right.
  * They are bad people.
  * They deserve retribution, and soon.
  
  Judy Stein on Republicans:
  * They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
  * They all lie.
  * They have concealed motives.
  * They intend to do harm to peace-loving Democrats.
  * I am right about them, no matter what they say.
  * You should agree with me *because* I am right.
  * They are bad people.
  * They deserve retribution, and soon.
  
  Coincidence, or indication of state of attention?
 
 These lists which you attribute to me sure are
 an indication of *your* state of attention.

Perhaps. :-) It just struck me that every time
you run into...uh...problems trashing the TM
critics, you dive for the security of politics,
so that you can play pile on with the politicians
you seem to hate with equal fervor. I figured it's
because you think no one will notice how much you
hate Cheney and Bush, whereas they DO notice when
you hate other members of FFL.

My comment is simply, Different target, same hate.





[FairfieldLife] Our dream comes true

2007-03-14 Thread Vaj
LONDON (AFP) - Gordon Brown, likely to be the next prime minister,  
will deliver a speech calling for a new world order to combat  
global warming on Monday.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070312/wl_uk_afp/ 
britainpolitics_070312082025

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Yogi as Act'?

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick 
 jochadw1@ wrote:

  The Tonight Show 14 May 1968  Joe Gargoyle:

I finally figured out this is Joe *Garagiola*, if
anyone else was mystified...





[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   H...
   
   Judy Stein on anti-TMers:
   * They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
   * They all lie.
   * They have concealed motives.
   * They intend to do harm to peace-loving TMers.
   * I am right about them, no matter what they say.
   * You should agree with me *because* I am right.
   * They are bad people.
   * They deserve retribution, and soon.
   
   Judy Stein on Republicans:
   * They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
   * They all lie.
   * They have concealed motives.
   * They intend to do harm to peace-loving Democrats.
   * I am right about them, no matter what they say.
   * You should agree with me *because* I am right.
   * They are bad people.
   * They deserve retribution, and soon.
   
   Coincidence, or indication of state of attention?
  
  These lists which you attribute to me sure are
  an indication of *your* state of attention.
 
 Perhaps. :-) It just struck me that every time
 you run into...uh...problems trashing the TM
 critics, you dive for the security of politics,
 so that you can play pile on with the politicians
 you seem to hate with equal fervor. I figured it's
 because you think no one will notice how much you
 hate Cheney and Bush, whereas they DO notice when
 you hate other members of FFL.
 
 My comment is simply, Different target, same hate.

Barry, GET SOME HELP.  Your fantasies are
out of control.




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Pearce - writer profile from the WritersNet published writers and auth

2007-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of sparaig
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:15 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Pearce - writer profile from the
WritersNet published writers and auth

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ]
 On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
 Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:48 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Pearce - writer profile from the
 WritersNet published writers and auth
 
 
 Peter's ex-wife, Linda Williams Pearce, was one of MMY's Rishikesh
 girlfriends. I don't know the circumstances of his allegedly losing $600K,
 but Linda make a big splash in the S. African press about her affair with
 MMY, and the Pearce's weren't exactly held in high esteem by the TB's down
 there after that.


Was she married to Pearce at the time of the alleged affair?

No. she was quite a bit younger and by her own account, a virgin when she
went to TTC in Rishikesh. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 Judy Stein on anti-TMers:
 * They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
 * They all lie.
 * They have concealed motives.
 * They intend to do harm to peace-loving TMers.
 * I am right about them, no matter what they say.
 * You should agree with me *because* I am right.
 * They are bad people.
 * They deserve retribution, and soon.
 
 Judy Stein on Republicans:
 * They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
 * They all lie.
 * They have concealed motives.
 * They intend to do harm to peace-loving Democrats.
 * I am right about them, no matter what they say.
 * You should agree with me *because* I am right.
 * They are bad people.
 * They deserve retribution, and soon.
 
 Coincidence, or indication of state of attention?

Uncle - You forgot to mention Judy's suggestion on Usenet that the
entire Bush administration should be shot.



[FairfieldLife] Deepak Speaks

2007-03-14 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Guru upset by Beatles' drug use  WORLD BRIEFINGS
By David Orr
LONDON DAILY TELEGRAPH
March 6, 2006 

  NEW DELHI -- The spat between the Beatles and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1968 
became an instant pop legend as perhaps the most bitter breakup in the era of 
free love. 
Now, after almost four decades of rumor and counter-rumor, a confidant of 
both sides has gone public with revelations that could upset many of the band's 
fans. 
Spiritualist and author Deepak Chopra, a former maharishi disciple and a 
friend of the late George Harrison, has said that contrary to popular myth, the 
row had nothing to do with charges that the maharishi made sexual advances 
toward Mia Farrow, the actress and friend of the band. 
Instead, he said, the maharishi had objected to the group's drug use at his 
home in Rishikesh, northern India. Dr. Chopra told the Sunday Telegraph: What 
isn't generally known is that the maharishi had got fed up with the Beatles 
taking drugs while they were at his ashram [spiritual home]. They were smoking 
ganja [cannabis, or pot] and taking LSD. He hadn't come across anything like 
that before, and he took a strong view. 
The group had gone to the ashram in search of spiritual enlightenment, 
meditating during the day and writing songs in the evening. According to 
reports, they consumed no alcohol or drugs when they first arrived and kept to 
a strict vegetarian diet. 
A few weeks into their much-publicized sojourn, however, relations soured 
between the guru and the band's entourage. In a subsequent television 
interview, John Lennon and Paul McCartney said they had lost interest in the 
maharishi's teachings. 
Dr. Chopra said of the rumor that the guru had misbehaved with Miss Farrow, 
who was part of the entourage: There was never any truth to stories about the 
maharishi's womanizing. When he was sick in the U.K., he wouldn't even allow 
any female nurses near him. 
As for the stuff about Mia Farrow, that was complete nonsense. I met her 
years later, and she asked me to tell the maharishi that she still loved him, 
he said. 
Dr. Chopra said Mr. Harrison later apologized to the maharishi during a 
visit to his meditation center at Vlodrop in the Netherlands, where he now 
lives as a recluse. Nobody at the center was available for comment. 


 
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[FairfieldLife] Criticism of Lost Tomb of Jesus

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
Wikipedia's page on the Lost Tomb of Jesus
documentary has a detailed summary of the
criticisms from archeologists:

http://tinyurl.com/2yk368



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 Usually U.S. attorneys' resignations *are* accepted.

Apparently all the U.S. Attorneys who were fired had been on
the job for over four years, so they probably should have resigned
without being fired. From what I've read, U.S. Attorneys serve four
years after being appointed, not four years of the President's term.



[FairfieldLife] More Hopeful News on the Religious Right

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
More Hopeful News on the Religious Right

NAE Leaders Advance Broad Agenda with Landmark Document on Human 
Rights and Torture (March 11, 2007)
 

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn., March 11, 2007-- The board of directors of the 
National Association of Evangelicals advanced a broad public agenda 
at its annual meeting this week, endorsing a landmark document on 
human rights and torture, and reaffirming its For the Health of the 
Nation: An Evangelical Call to Public Engagement, first adopted in 
2003.  
 
The NAE board endorsed An Evangelical Declaration Against Torture: 
Protecting Human Rights in An Age of Terror.  The 18-page document, 
which was produced by Evangelicals for Human Rights and can be viewed 
at www.evangelicalsforhumanrights.org, states: From a Christian 
perspective, every human life is sacred.  Recognition of this 
transcendent moral dignity is non-negotiable for us as evangelical 
Christians in every area of life, including our assessment of public 
policies.  We write this declaration to affirm our support for 
detainee human rights and opposition to any resort to torture.  

The document affirms the doctrine that United States law and 
military doctrine has banned the resort to torture or cruel and 
degrading treatment. Tragically, documented cases of torture and 
inhumane and cruel behavior have occurred at various sites in the war 
on terror, and current law opens procedural loopholes for more to 
continue.  We commend the Pentagon's revised Army Field Manual for 
clearly banning such acts, and urge that this ban extend to every 
sector of the United States government without exception, including 
our intelligence agencies.


Read more at the NAE's Web site:
http://tinyurl.com/yq8cav




[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
llundrub wrote:
 Well it has to be said, this quote sums up my entire 
 attitude towards masturbation. 
 
Very impressive Kirk.

  Curving back on my own nature I create again and again all this  
  multitude of beings helpless under the regime of nature.
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 TurquoiseB wrote:
  Judy Stein on anti-TMers:
  * They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
  * They all lie.
  * They have concealed motives.
  * They intend to do harm to peace-loving TMers.
  * I am right about them, no matter what they say.
  * You should agree with me *because* I am right.
  * They are bad people.
  * They deserve retribution, and soon.
  
  Judy Stein on Republicans:
  * They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
  * They all lie.
  * They have concealed motives.
  * They intend to do harm to peace-loving Democrats.
  * I am right about them, no matter what they say.
  * You should agree with me *because* I am right.
  * They are bad people.
  * They deserve retribution, and soon.
  
  Coincidence, or indication of state of attention?
 
 Uncle - You forgot to mention Judy's suggestion on Usenet 
 that the entire Bush administration should be shot.

Yeah, but that was back then; these days I'm sure 
that she'd opt for lethal injection. Shooting is
reserved for TM critics.

:-)






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 3/13/07 5:26:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Only if  she fires the ones she hired without cause.



In a lot  of states you don't have to show cause to fire somebody. 
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email to everyone.  Find out more about what's free from AOL at 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jstein wrote:
  Usually U.S. attorneys' resignations *are* accepted.
 
 Apparently all the U.S. Attorneys who were fired had been on
 the job for over four years, so they probably should have resigned
 without being fired. From what I've read, U.S. Attorneys serve four
 years after being appointed, not four years of the President's term.

U.S. attorneys normally serve for the entire time the
president who appointed them--usually at the beginning
of the first term--is in office.  Once they're appointed,
it's rare for them to be fired.  If the president serves
two terms, the attorneys typically stay for the second
four years.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 3/13/07 9:23:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Or, the  left-wingers could be just simply inventing a scandal for
political  purposes and trying to take advantage of the public's
ignorance. You don't  seem to be able to cite any evidence that there's
a scandal or that any  laws were broken.



A popular Democrat tactic to regain power when they have lost  it.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
 willytex@ wrote:
 
  TurquoiseB wrote:
   Judy Stein on anti-TMers:
   * They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
   * They all lie.
   * They have concealed motives.
   * They intend to do harm to peace-loving TMers.
   * I am right about them, no matter what they say.
   * You should agree with me *because* I am right.
   * They are bad people.
   * They deserve retribution, and soon.
   
   Judy Stein on Republicans:
   * They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
   * They all lie.
   * They have concealed motives.
   * They intend to do harm to peace-loving Democrats.
   * I am right about them, no matter what they say.
   * You should agree with me *because* I am right.
   * They are bad people.
   * They deserve retribution, and soon.
   
   Coincidence, or indication of state of attention?
  
  Uncle - You forgot to mention Judy's suggestion on Usenet 
  that the entire Bush administration should be shot.
 
 Yeah, but that was back then; these days I'm sure 
 that she'd opt for lethal injection.

Here's what I actually said, a little over two
years ago:

The entire administration should be thrown in
jail, if not put before a firing squad.

(For semantics aficionados, the implication of if
not here is a little ambiguous; what I meant to
suggest was that they might *deserve* to be put
before a firing squad, but that such a punishment
was too extreme.)




 Shooting is
 reserved for TM critics.
 
 :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Pearce - writer profile from the WritersNet published writers and auth

2007-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of sparaig
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:15 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Pearce - writer profile from the
 WritersNet published writers and auth
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ]
  On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
  Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:48 PM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
 
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Pearce - writer profile from the
  WritersNet published writers and auth
  
  
  Peter's ex-wife, Linda Williams Pearce, was one of MMY's Rishikesh
  girlfriends. I don't know the circumstances of his allegedly losing $600K,
  but Linda make a big splash in the S. African press about her affair with
  MMY, and the Pearce's weren't exactly held in high esteem by the TB's down
  there after that.
 
 
 Was she married to Pearce at the time of the alleged affair?
 
 No. she was quite a bit younger and by her own account, a virgin when she
 went to TTC in Rishikesh.


Does she come off as more rational than her ex?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 3/13/07 5:26:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Only if  she fires the ones she hired without cause.
 
 
 
 In a lot  of states you don't have to show cause to fire somebody. 
 BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free 
 email to everyone.  Find out more about what's free from AOL at 
 http://www.aol.com.


Er, this is a federal position...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 In a message dated 3/13/07 5:26:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Only if  she fires the ones she hired without cause.
 
 In a lot  of states you don't have to show cause to fire somebody.

Non sequitur.  In the first place, the question to 
which the above was a response was speculating about
how the media would react, not the legal situation;
in the second place, this is federal, not state; in
the third place, it's *customary* for the president
not to fire U.S. attorneys without cause, except at
the beginning of the first term.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why should being good and attaining enlightenment go together?

2007-03-14 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Hubert Dreyfus (FAAAS; Past President, American Philosophical Association, 
Western Division) directed Denise Denniston's Ph.D. thesis on Heidegger at 
Berkeley.

jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   --- In 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ 
wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
  wrote:
 [...]
 You *start* to act a certain
 way, get an instantaneous readout that you're going
 the wrong way by realizing that your state of atten-
 tion is lowering, and thus you correct your path and
 go a different way. The whole process is that fast;
 you can make such decisions in microseconds.
   
  What is Moral Maturity? A Phenomenological Account of the Development of 
Ethical Expertise
  Hubert L. Dreyfus
   

...A Phenomenology of Skill Acquisition 
  Stage 1: Novice 
  Normally, the instruction process begins with the instructor 
decomposing the task environment into context-free features which the beginner 
can recognize without benefit of experience. The beginner is then given rules 
for determining actions on the basis of these features, like a computer 
following a program. 
  The student automobile driver learns to recognize such 
interpretation-free features as speed (indicated by his speedometer). Timing of 
gear shifts is specified in terms of speed. 
  The novice chess player learns a numerical value for each type of 
piece regardless of its position, and the rule: Always exchange if the total 
value of pieces captured exceeds the value of pieces lost. But such rigid 
rules often fail to work. A loaded car stalls on a hill; a beginner in chess 
falls for every sacrifice. 
   
  Stage 2: Advanced beginner 
  As the novice gains experience actually coping with real 
situations, he begins to note, or an instructor points out, perspicuous 
examples of meaningful additional components of the situation. After seeing a 
sufficient number of examples, the student learns to recognize them. 
Instructional maxims now can refer to these new situational aspects. We use the 
terms maxims and aspects here to differentiate this form of instruction from 
the first, where strict rules were given as to how to respond to context-free 
features. Since maxims are phrased in terms of aspects they already presuppose 
experience in the skill domain. 
  The advanced beginner driver uses (situational) engine sounds as 
well as (non-situational) speed.  He learns the maxim: shift up when the motor 
sounds like it is racing and down when it sounds like it is straining. No 
number of words can take the place of a few choice examples of racing and 
straining sounds. 
  Similarly, with experience, the chess student begins to recognize 
such situational aspects of positions as a weakened king's side or a strong 
pawn structure, despite the lack of precise definitional rules. He is then 
given maxims to follow, such as attack a weakened king's side. 
   
  Stage 3: Competence 
  With increasing experience, the number of features and aspects to 
be taken into account becomes overwhelming. To cope with this information 
explosion, the performer learns to adopt a hierarchical view of 
decision-making. By first choosing a plan, goal or perspective which organizes 
the situation and by then examining only the small set of features and aspects 
that he has learned are relevant given that plan, the performer can simplify 
and improve his performance. 
  A competent driver leaving the freeway on a curved off-ramp may, 
after taking into account speed, surface condition, criticality of time, etc., 
decide he is going too fast. He then has to decide whether to let up on the 
accelerator, remove his foot altogether, or step on the brake. He is relieved 
when he gets through the curve without mishap and shaken if he begins to go 
into a skid. 
  The class A chess player, here classed as competent, may decide 
after studying a position that his opponent has weakened his king's defenses so 
that an attack against the king is a viable goal. If the attack is chosen, 
features involving weaknesses in his own position created by the attack are 
ignored as are losses of pieces inessential to the attack. Removing pieces 
defending the enemy king becomes salient. Successful plans induce euphoria and 
mistakes are felt in the pit of the stomach. 
  In both of these cases, we find a common pattern: detached 
planning, conscious assessment of elements that are salient with respect to the 
plan, and analytical rule-guided choice of action, followed by an emotionally 
involved experience of the outcome. The experience is emotional because 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
  willytex@ wrote:
  
   TurquoiseB wrote:
Judy Stein on anti-TMers:
* They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
* They all lie.
* They have concealed motives.
* They intend to do harm to peace-loving TMers.
* I am right about them, no matter what they say.
* You should agree with me *because* I am right.
* They are bad people.
* They deserve retribution, and soon.

Judy Stein on Republicans:
* They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
* They all lie.
* They have concealed motives.
* They intend to do harm to peace-loving Democrats.
* I am right about them, no matter what they say.
* You should agree with me *because* I am right.
* They are bad people.
* They deserve retribution, and soon.

Coincidence, or indication of state of attention?
   
   Uncle - You forgot to mention Judy's suggestion on Usenet 
   that the entire Bush administration should be shot.
  
  Yeah, but that was back then; these days I'm sure 
  that she'd opt for lethal injection.
 
 Here's what I actually said, a little over two
 years ago:
 
 The entire administration should be thrown in
 jail, if not put before a firing squad.
 
 (For semantics aficionados, the implication of if
 not here is a little ambiguous; what I meant to
 suggest was that they might *deserve* to be put
 before a firing squad, but that such a punishment
 was too extreme.)

Cool.

As long as you're into semantics today, could you 
clear up these two quotes of yours for us as well?

Folks who abandon their animals should be shot, BTW.

I shoot the messenger when the messenger deserves 
to be shot.

:-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Vaj


On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:53 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Uncle - You forgot to mention Judy's suggestion on Usenet
that the entire Bush administration should be shot.


Yeah, but that was back then; these days I'm sure
that she'd opt for lethal injection. Shooting is
reserved for TM critics.



What happened to killing them with coherence?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Vaj


On Mar 14, 2007, at 11:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


As long as you're into semantics today, could you
clear up these two quotes of yours for us as well?

Folks who abandon their animals should be shot, BTW.

I shoot the messenger when the messenger deserves
to be shot.



Wow, that's a lot of violent metaphors. What's that about? Level of  
consciousness?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Richard J. Williams wrote:
 ...what's a TMer, anyway? 

peterklutz wrote: 
 Hello Willytex,

Hello, but my name isn't Willytex, Peter, that's my email address.
According to Buleah Smith, I'm TMer #212 in the U.S.A. But according
to Maharishi, being on the program doesn't include posting insider
information to Internet newsgroups like this one. What's up with that?
 
 In my mind a TMer is someone who regularly practices TM as 
 taught by His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. 

Thanks for taking the time to post a reply to my question, but you you
raise more questions than you answer. In order to define TMer you'd
have to first define TM. A definition would have to be all-inclusive
and allow no exceptions. What, exactly, is TM, anyway?

According to His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, TM is based on
thinking, pure and simple. If so, then everyone practices TM, since
hardly a person could be found that can't think. 

 Having once been initiated but not practizing makes you a 
 non-TMer, or perhaps in the minds of some folk, an ex-TMer.

Maybe so, but what if a person practices TM for longer than twenty
minutes twice a day? Are they still considered a TMer? What if they
meditate for only fifteen minutes once a day? What if they skip a day
or two, or even a year or two, and then come back to the practice later?

 Then there is the special category of folks who claim to be
 meditating, or to be medtitating, or to have been initiated 
 and not meditating...

Meditation means to think things over, so everyone meditates to a
certain degree. Almost everyone on the planet pauses once or twice a
day to take stock of their own mind stuff. In fact, everyone is
transcending, even without a technique. 

 - and who spend time on this list attacking TM. 
 
So, what's up with those who spend time on this list attacking the
non-TMers?

 I think the real question is: Who are these people?

Well, I don't know since you and some others don't reveal who they
really are, Mr. Klutz, not that it matters.

The question is, what is so unique about TM? Is it the use of of a
bija mantra and if so, what's a bija mantra? And why would
nonsense syllables make any difference to one's method of thinking? 

According to Maharishi, any sound or word could be used for
meditation. Maharishi also said that any technique that provides the
opportunity for transcending could be termed TM. In your opinion,
what is so unique about the TM bija mantras?

Other questions: 

What's a Freemason? There are lots of people around here where I
live that refer to themselves as members of the Free and Accepted
Scottish Rite, but they hardly ever use the word Freemason to
describe themselves. 

Another question: 

How would you be knowing anything about Freemasons since it's
supposedly a secret society?

 I'll re-insert this caveat lector.
 
From what I've read, Vaj is very knowledgeable about eastern spiritual
practices, and so is Barry. Apparently they've spent almost their
entire adult life in and out of various eastern cults. 

From what I've read on Usenet, Vaj and Barry are probably two of the
most expert authorities on eastern spiritual practices on the entire
planet. I may not agree with some of their opinions, but I'll give
credit where credit is due. However, as Lawson recently pointed out,
you really got mixed up on your recent editing of the Wikipedia entry
on Mahesh Yogi. What happened over there that got you kicked off?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi

 === CAVEAT LECTOR ===
 
 After an exchange of postings it has become evident that 
 the poster using the name Vaj is a Freemason, apparently 
 of high rank, with (1) little or no understanding of TM 
 and other eastern spiritual practices; and who has 
 confessed to (2) be on a mission to apparently sow doubt 
 about the safety of the practices of i.a. the TM and
 TM-Sidhi programes.
 
 For more details cf posting:
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/132902
 
 === END CAVEAT LECTOR ===




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 3/14/07 9:23:32 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Er, this  is a federal position...



Errr... so, does that change anything in this  case?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
   willytex@ wrote:
   
TurquoiseB wrote:
 Judy Stein on anti-TMers:
 * They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
 * They all lie.
 * They have concealed motives.
 * They intend to do harm to peace-loving TMers.
 * I am right about them, no matter what they say.
 * You should agree with me *because* I am right.
 * They are bad people.
 * They deserve retribution, and soon.
 
 Judy Stein on Republicans:
 * They are all untrustworthy, without credibility.
 * They all lie.
 * They have concealed motives.
 * They intend to do harm to peace-loving Democrats.
 * I am right about them, no matter what they say.
 * You should agree with me *because* I am right.
 * They are bad people.
 * They deserve retribution, and soon.
 
 Coincidence, or indication of state of attention?

Uncle - You forgot to mention Judy's suggestion on Usenet 
that the entire Bush administration should be shot.
   
   Yeah, but that was back then; these days I'm sure 
   that she'd opt for lethal injection.
  
  Here's what I actually said, a little over two
  years ago:
  
  The entire administration should be thrown in
  jail, if not put before a firing squad.
  
  (For semantics aficionados, the implication of if
  not here is a little ambiguous; what I meant to
  suggest was that they might *deserve* to be put
  before a firing squad, but that such a punishment
  was too extreme.)
 
 Cool.
 
 As long as you're into semantics today, could you 
 clear up these two quotes of yours for us as well?

(I'm *always* into semantics.)

Sure, sorry you were confused by them.  The
first is hyperbole, the second metaphor:
 
 Folks who abandon their animals should be shot, BTW.
 
 I shoot the messenger when the messenger deserves 
 to be shot.

Those really all you could find in a search for
shot in my posts?

Here are some more you might try:

hanged
decapitated
stabbed to death
nuked
drowned
wiped out
castrated
beaten to a bloody pulp
smashed into a little grease spot
torn limb from limb

I'm sure I can come up with some others.  I'll
let you know.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 3/14/07 9:26:22 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

it's  *customary* for the president
not to fire U.S. attorneys without cause,  except at
the beginning of the first term.



*Customary* seems to be the key word. The real question is, is it  *legal*?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 3/14/07 9:26:22 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 it's  *customary* for the president
 not to fire U.S. attorneys without cause,  except at
 the beginning of the first term.
 
 *Customary* seems to be the key word. The real question is, is it  
*legal*?

Of course it's legal, but then nobody has disputed
that, so it isn't the real question after all.

Another word used to describe these firings is
unprecedented.




[FairfieldLife] Newspapers call for Gonzales's head

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
From Editor  Publisher:

Editorial Pages Call for Axing Attorney General

By EP Staff

Published: March 14, 2007 7:50 AM ET updated 10:40 AM ET 

NEW YORK The New York Times got the editorial ball rolling on Monday, 
calling for the firing of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales due 
largely, if not completely, to the burgeoning scandal involving the 
forced departure of eight U.S. attorneys. Today the notion spread 
across the country.


For details and quotes from some of the
editorials:
http://tinyurl.com/295vsd






[FairfieldLife] Re: Newspapers call for Gonzales's head

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From Editor  Publisher:
 
 Editorial Pages Call for Axing Attorney General
 
 By EP Staff
 
 Published: March 14, 2007 7:50 AM ET updated 10:40 AM ET 
 
 NEW YORK The New York Times got the editorial ball rolling on 
Monday, 
 calling for the firing of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales due 
 largely, if not completely, to the burgeoning scandal involving the 
 forced departure of eight U.S. attorneys. Today the notion spread 
 across the country.
 
 
 For details and quotes from some of the
 editorials:
 http://tinyurl.com/295vsd

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 3/13/07 9:12:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Question: How many of the 93 Clinton appointees in 1993 were  replaced
by Bush in 2001? Bush could have fired all 93, so are these 8  the
only changes he made out of 186 opportunities? Where's the scandal?  




The real scandal was that Bush was trying to reach across the isle when he  
took office and didn't clear out all of the Clinton appointees when he should  
have.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:53 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  Uncle - You forgot to mention Judy's suggestion on Usenet
  that the entire Bush administration should be shot.
 
  Yeah, but that was back then; these days I'm sure
  that she'd opt for lethal injection. Shooting is
  reserved for TM critics.
 
 
 What happened to killing them with coherence?

Nothing. it still works.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

2007-03-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vaj and Barry are probably two of the
 most expert authorities on eastern spiritual practices on the entire
 planet. 

Which planet? Granted you have been seduced by your own hyperbole. 
Nonetheless, how did you arrive at your preposterous conclusion, or is 
this merely yet another opportunity for trolling?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Cool.

As long as you're into semantics today, could you
clear up these two quotes of yours for us as well?


Barry, do you realize you're double and even triple posting, a lot?

Sal


[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  Cool.
 
  As long as you're into semantics today, could you
  clear up these two quotes of yours for us as well?
 
 Barry, do you realize you're double and even triple posting, a lot?
 
 Sal


He's so excited by his own messages that his hand trembles and he hits the send 
button/key 
twice.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Speaks

2007-03-14 Thread Lsoma
 
In a message dated 3/14/2007 10:49:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 
 
Guru upset by Beatles' drug use
WORLD BRIEFINGS
By David Orr
LONDON  DAILY TELEGRAPH
March 6, 2006 

NEW DELHI -- The spat between the Beatles and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in  1968 
became an instant pop legend as perhaps the most bitter breakup in the  era of 
free love. 
Now, after almost four decades  of rumor and counter-rumor, a confidant of 
both sides has gone public with  revelations that could upset many of the 
band's 
fans.  
Spiritualist and author Deepak Chopra, a former  maharishi disciple and a 
friend of the late George Harrison, has said that  contrary to popular myth, 
the 
row had nothing to do with charges that the  maharishi made sexual advances 
toward Mia Farrow, the actress and friend of  the band. 
Instead, he said, the maharishi had  objected to the group's drug use at his 
home in Rishikesh, northern India. Dr.  Chopra told the Sunday Telegraph: 
What isn't generally known is that the  maharishi had got fed up with the 
Beatles 
taking drugs while they were at his  ashram [spiritual home]. They were 
smoking ganja [cannabis, or pot] and  taking LSD. He hadn't come across 
anything 
like that before, and he took a  strong view. 
The group had gone to the ashram in  search of spiritual enlightenment, 
meditating during the day and writing songs  in the evening. According to 
reports, 
they consumed no alcohol or drugs when  they first arrived and kept to a 
strict vegetarian diet.  
A few weeks into their much-publicized sojourn,  however, relations soured 
between the guru and the band's entourage. In a  subsequent television 
interview, John Lennon and Paul McCartney said they had  lost interest in the 
maharishi's teachings. 
Dr.  Chopra said of the rumor that the guru had misbehaved with Miss Farrow, 
who  was part of the entourage: There was never any truth to stories about 
the  maharishi's womanizing. When he was sick in the U.K., he wouldn't even 
allow  any female nurses near him. 
As for the stuff  about Mia Farrow, that was complete nonsense. I met her 
years later, and she  asked me to tell the maharishi that she still loved him, 
he said.  
Dr. Chopra said Mr. Harrison later apologized to  the maharishi during a 
visit to his meditation center at Vlodrop in the  Netherlands, where he now 
lives 
as a recluse. Nobody at the center was  available for comment. 

 

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Wow, great stuff. I always felt that the Beatles were too high on drugs  to 
ever get the vision MMY had.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  Cool.
 
  As long as you're into semantics today, could you
  clear up these two quotes of yours for us as well?
 
 Barry, do you realize you're double and even triple posting, a lot?
 
 Sal

Not on the FFL website...maybe a server issue?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Our dream comes true

2007-03-14 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote:
 LONDON (AFP) - Gordon Brown, likely to be the next prime minister, 
 will deliver a speech calling for a new world order to combat global 
 warming on Monday.


 http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070312/wl_uk_afp/britainpolitics_070312082025 

More a nightmare than a dream.  Government becomes daddy.  We don't need 
no stinking world order.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Our dream comes true

2007-03-14 Thread Vaj


On Mar 14, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Bhairitu wrote:


Vaj wrote:

LONDON (AFP) - Gordon Brown, likely to be the next prime minister,
will deliver a speech calling for a new world order to combat  
global

warming on Monday.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070312/wl_uk_afp/ 
britainpolitics_070312082025


More a nightmare than a dream.  Government becomes daddy.  We don't  
need

no stinking world order.



It's too late, we're already here. Yes, you'll have to wait in line  
for your chip, just like the others.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 Here's what I actually said, a little over two
 years ago:
 
 The entire administration should be thrown in
 jail, if not put before a firing squad.
 
Without a trial? 

There must be thousands of people in the entire administration.

 (For semantics aficionados, the implication of if
 not here is a little ambiguous; what I meant to
 suggest was that they might *deserve* to be put
 before a firing squad, but that such a punishment
 was too extreme.)
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Speaks

2007-03-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 3/14/2007 10:49:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
  
  
 Guru upset by Beatles' drug use
 WORLD BRIEFINGS
 By David Orr
 LONDON  DAILY TELEGRAPH
 March 6, 2006 
 
 NEW DELHI -- The spat between the Beatles and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi 
in  1968 
 became an instant pop legend as perhaps the most bitter breakup in 
the  era of 
 free love. 
 Now, after almost four decades  of rumor and counter-rumor, a 
confidant of 
 both sides has gone public with  revelations that could upset many 
of the band's 
 fans.  
 Spiritualist and author Deepak Chopra, a former  maharishi disciple 
and a 
 friend of the late George Harrison, has said that  contrary to 
popular myth, the 
 row had nothing to do with charges that the  maharishi made sexual 
advances 
 toward Mia Farrow, the actress and friend of  the band. 
 Instead, he said, the maharishi had  objected to the group's drug 
use at his 
 home in Rishikesh, northern India. Dr.  Chopra told the Sunday 
Telegraph: 
 What isn't generally known is that the  maharishi had got fed up 
with the Beatles 
 taking drugs while they were at his  ashram [spiritual home]. They 
were 
 smoking ganja [cannabis, or pot] and  taking LSD. He hadn't come 
across anything 
 like that before, and he took a  strong view. 
 The group had gone to the ashram in  search of spiritual 
enlightenment, 
 meditating during the day and writing songs  in the evening. 
According to reports, 
 they consumed no alcohol or drugs when  they first arrived and kept 
to a 
 strict vegetarian diet.  
 A few weeks into their much-publicized sojourn,  however, relations 
soured 
 between the guru and the band's entourage. In a  subsequent 
television 
 interview, John Lennon and Paul McCartney said they had  lost 
interest in the 
 maharishi's teachings. 
 Dr.  Chopra said of the rumor that the guru had misbehaved with 
Miss Farrow, 
 who  was part of the entourage: There was never any truth to 
stories about 
 the  maharishi's womanizing. When he was sick in the U.K., he 
wouldn't even 
 allow  any female nurses near him. 
 As for the stuff  about Mia Farrow, that was complete nonsense. I 
met her 
 years later, and she  asked me to tell the maharishi that she still 
loved him, 
 he said.  
 Dr. Chopra said Mr. Harrison later apologized to  the maharishi 
during a 
 visit to his meditation center at Vlodrop in the  Netherlands, 
where he now lives 
 as a recluse. Nobody at the center was  available for comment. 
 

 Wow, great stuff. I always felt that the Beatles were too high on 
drugs  to 
 ever get the vision MMY had.
 Lsoma.

Agreed.
 
But there is another point. The Beatles did not understand that He 
wanted to use them and their fame for a higher Good, for the 
enlightenment and upliftment of the youth at that time.
 
Their egos and sense of independence panicked.
 
Stuck in their vision of themselves as famous and forever young and 
creative they descided to split. 

Confronted with great saints like Maharishi most people do. Only a 
few old souls stay put, ready for new opportunities. These are souls 
that have been through the same process of challenge and 
purification, life after life. Now they very well might be harvesting 
what they sowed for so long. Thanks to the shakti that Guru Dev 
passed on to Maharishi, and which He passes on to the masses of the 
World.

George, Ringo and Paul did adknowledge Maharishi, decades after they 
were challenged and had the opportunity. A tad too late, but still, 
better than many on this list. Well done boys !





[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 U.S. attorneys normally serve for the entire time the
 president who appointed them--usually at the beginning
 of the first term--is in office.  Once they're appointed,
 it's rare for them to be fired.  If the president serves
 two terms, the attorneys typically stay for the second
 four years.

How many U.S. Attorneys did Bush fire when he took office?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Darth Cheney speaks

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Vaj wrote:

This is Jew-baiting, in my opinion.

 http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2007/03/dick-cheney-opens-his-maw-to- 
 aipac-few.ht\
 ml
 
snip



[FairfieldLife] Re: Our dream comes true

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote:
 We don't need no stinking world order.

So, you're opposed to government. Why is it that almost all your
political solutions border on anarchy? 




[FairfieldLife] fairfield after maharishi's death

2007-03-14 Thread shucktipat
 I am wondering what effect the death of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi will 
have on the community in Fairfield. Will a lot of folks move away or 
will it thrive?













 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Vaj wrote:
 
 This is Jew-baiting, in my opinion.
 
  http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2007/03/dick-cheney-opens-his-maw-
to- 
  aipac-few.ht\
  ml
  
 snip





[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jstein wrote:
  U.S. attorneys normally serve for the entire time the
  president who appointed them--usually at the beginning
  of the first term--is in office.  Once they're appointed,
  it's rare for them to be fired.  If the president serves
  two terms, the attorneys typically stay for the second
  four years.
 
 How many U.S. Attorneys did Bush fire when he took office?

Almost all of them.  Same with Reagan.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
  Vaj and Barry are probably two of the most expert 
  authorities on eastern spiritual practices on the 
  entire planet. 
 
jim flanegin wrote: 
 Which planet?

In case you have not noticed, we are on planet Earth, Jim.

 Granted you have been seduced by your own hyperbole.

Which one?
 
 Nonetheless, how did you arrive at your preposterous 
 conclusion,

Well, compared to you, almost everyone on this list seems to be an
expert on eastern spiritual practices.

 or is this merely yet another opportunity for trolling?

The term 'Internet Troll' is frequently abused to slander opponents in
heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are ignorant
of Internet etiquette.

Troll FAQ:

http://tinyurl.com/2977cj 



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Pearce - writer profile from the WritersNet published writers and auth

2007-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of sparaig
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:20 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Pearce - writer profile from the
WritersNet published writers and auth


Does she come off as more rational than her ex?

I haven't spoken with her. Last I heard, she was in an Ayurvedic clinic in
India receiving treatment for MS. But that was a few years ago.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
 How many of the 93 Clinton appointees in 1993 were  
 replaced by Bush in 2001? Bush could have fired all 
 93, so are these 8  the only changes he made out of 
 186 opportunities? Where's the scandal?  
 
MDixon wrote:
 The real scandal was that Bush was trying to reach 
 across the isle when he took office and didn't clear 
 out all of the Clinton appointees when he should have.

So, when Clinton took office he fired ALL the U.S. Attorneys,
including the one from Arkansas that was probing his links to
Rostenkowski, but when Bush took office he fired NONE, but Judy says
that almost all incoming presidents fire their U.S. Attorneys from
previous administrations, but now there is a scandal because Bush
fired eight who apparently weren't doing their jobs? 

So, why do you suppose that Judy didn't mention this?

New York Times: Attorney General Janet Reno today demanded the prompt
resignation of all United States Attorneys, leading the Federal
prosecutor in the District of Columbia to suggest that the order could
be tied to his long-running investigation of Representative Dan
Rostenkowski, a crucial ally of President Clinton.

'Attorney General Seeks Resignations From Prosecutors'
By David Johnston
New York Times, Wednesday March 24, 1993



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 3/13/07 9:12:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Question: How many of the 93 Clinton appointees in 1993 were  
 replaced by Bush in 2001?

Almost all of them.

 Bush could have fired all 93, so are these 8 the
 only changes he made out of 186 opportunities? Where's the 
 scandal?

No, he fired most of the 93 Clinton appointees in 2001.

The eight he just fired were all his own appointees.

The scandal is that they were removed not for
incompetence or malfeasance, but because they weren't
serving the political purposes of the administration.

U.S. attorneys, once appointed, become part of law
enforcement and should be entirely independent of
politics.

Another part of the scandal is that various members
of the administration, including the attorney 
general, appear to have lied to  Congress during the
initial hearings into the firings.

And still another part of the scandal is the distinct
possibility that the attorneys who kept their jobs
may have done so because they acceded to administration
political pressure.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  How many of the 93 Clinton appointees in 1993 were  
  replaced by Bush in 2001? Bush could have fired all 
  93, so are these 8  the only changes he made out of 
  186 opportunities? Where's the scandal?  
  
 MDixon wrote:
  The real scandal was that Bush was trying to reach 
  across the isle when he took office and didn't clear 
  out all of the Clinton appointees when he should have.
 
 So, when Clinton took office he fired ALL the U.S. Attorneys,
 including the one from Arkansas that was probing his links to
 Rostenkowski,

Rostenkowski was indicted a year later by a Clinton-
appointed U.S. attorney.

 but when Bush took office he fired NONE,

No, he fired almost all of them.

 but Judy says
 that almost all incoming presidents fire their U.S. Attorneys from
 previous administrations, but now there is a scandal because Bush
 fired eight who apparently weren't doing their jobs? 

The evidence is that they *were* doing their jobs.

 So, why do you suppose that Judy didn't mention this?

Didn't mention what, your misrepresentations?


 
 New York Times: Attorney General Janet Reno today demanded the 
prompt
 resignation of all United States Attorneys, leading the Federal
 prosecutor in the District of Columbia to suggest that the order 
could
 be tied to his long-running investigation of Representative Dan
 Rostenkowski, a crucial ally of President Clinton.
 
 'Attorney General Seeks Resignations From Prosecutors'
 By David Johnston
 New York Times, Wednesday March 24, 1993





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Mar 14, 2007, at 1:16 PM, authfriend wrote:


The scandal is that they were removed not for
incompetence or malfeasance, but because they weren't
serving the political purposes of the administration.


Supposedly they weren't investigating enough Democrats prior to the 
election.


Sal


[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

2007-03-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Vaj and Barry are probably two of the most expert 
   authorities on eastern spiritual practices on the 
   entire planet. 
  
 jim flanegin wrote: 
  Which planet?
 
 In case you have not noticed, we are on planet Earth, Jim.
 
  Granted you have been seduced by your own hyperbole.
 
 Which one?
  
  Nonetheless, how did you arrive at your preposterous 
  conclusion,
 
 Well, compared to you, almost everyone on this list seems to be an
 expert on eastern spiritual practices.
 
  or is this merely yet another opportunity for trolling?
 
 The term 'Internet Troll' is frequently abused to slander 
opponents in
 heated debates and is frequently misapplied by those who are 
ignorant
 of Internet etiquette.
 
 Troll FAQ:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2977cj

So now you're a comedian?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Newspapers call for Gonzales's head

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 Editorial Pages Call for Axing Attorney General
 
Apparently some of the fired attorneys are spinning this as a case of
them being improperly pressured on their investigations. From what
I've read, there are some grounds for questioning the vigor of the
voter fraud investigations in Washington state and New Mexico, as
pointed out by the Wall Street Journal.

So, why didn't you post a link to the Journal? 

That's the problem with partisans like you - you only want us to read
one side of each story. That's misleading and unfair. In fact, it's an
indication of a very strong political bias.

What makes this situation even more like hypocrisy on your part is
that Sen. Hillary Clinton wants Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to
resign! This is the same Hillary Clinton whose husband fired all 93 U.S.
attorneys while the Whitewater investigation was going on. Go figure.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Mar 14, 2007, at 1:16 PM, authfriend wrote:
 
  The scandal is that they were removed not for
  incompetence or malfeasance, but because they weren't
  serving the political purposes of the administration.
 
 Supposedly they weren't investigating enough Democrats prior
 to the election.

And/or that they were investigating too many
Republicans.

Somebody did a bit of research and discovered that
about seven times as many Democrats as Republicans
have been investigated during the Bush administration.
At least some of the folks who were fired had
apparently not gotten with the program.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Our dream comes true

2007-03-14 Thread Bhairitu
Vaj wrote:

 On Mar 14, 2007, at 1:01 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

 Vaj wrote:
 LONDON (AFP) - Gordon Brown, likely to be the next prime minister,
 will deliver a speech calling for a new world order to combat global
 warming on Monday.


 http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070312/wl_uk_afp/britainpolitics_070312082025 


 More a nightmare than a dream.  Government becomes daddy.  We don't need
 no stinking world order.


 It's too late, we're already here. Yes, you'll have to wait in line 
 for your chip, just like the others.
I refuse to be chipped.  And anyone who wants to chip me better have 
said goodbye to their family that morning.  Of course I can always throw 
a stamhban or uchattan on them and they'll forget what they were doing.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Our dream comes true

2007-03-14 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote:
 Bhairitu wrote:
   
 We don't need no stinking world order.

 
 So, you're opposed to government. Why is it that almost all your
 political solutions border on anarchy? 
Some conservative you are Richard, being for big government.  You have 
daddy issues?  What government should do as far as being green is 
provide incentives not punishment.



Re: [FairfieldLife] fairfield after maharishi's death

2007-03-14 Thread Bhairitu
 From a friend who recently moved back to Fairfield I hear that the 
true believers have moved to Vedic City so Fairfield itself is more 
normal folks or Sonoma in the cornfields as I call it. :)

shucktipat wrote:
  I am wondering what effect the death of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi will 
 have on the community in Fairfield. Will a lot of folks move away or 
 will it thrive?













  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Vaj wrote:
 
 This is Jew-baiting, in my opinion.

 
 http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2007/03/dick-cheney-opens-his-maw-
   
 to- 
   
 aipac-few.ht\
 ml

   
 snip

 



   



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 Another word used to describe these firings is
 unprecedented.

Oh my Gawd!

A politician that fires political appointees. 

The so-called controversy over the firing of eight U.S. attorneys is
not much of a scandal. The Bush administration had serious misgivings
about how vigilantly the attorneys were pursuing voter fraud
investigations and other issues and decided to make a switch. But this
does go to show just how desperate the Dems are to create a scandal
where there is none.

Here's an idea: 

Let's get Bush to appoint another Special Counsel, maybe Patrick
Fitzgerald again. Then maybe we could uncover another scandal like who
outed the secret agent girl, Valerie Plame! 

Another idea:

Let's give Sandy Burgler a lie detector test!



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

2007-03-14 Thread llundrub
That's what I always thought ;)

-Original Message-
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:52 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

llundrub wrote:
 Well it has to be said, this quote sums up my entire 
 attitude towards masturbation. 
 
Very impressive Kirk.

  Curving back on my own nature I create again and again all this  
  multitude of beings helpless under the regime of nature.
 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: fairfield after maharishi's death

2007-03-14 Thread ffia1120
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shucktipat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I am wondering what effect the death of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi will 
 have on the community in Fairfield. Will a lot of folks move away or 
 will it thrive?
 
I have lived here 27 years (moved here to attend MIU). Nothing much 
will change. There will be some true believers who have a rough time of 
it, but the vast majority of us will carry on as usual. Life is good 
here.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Newspapers call for Gonzales's head

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 jstein wrote:
  Editorial Pages Call for Axing Attorney General
  
 Apparently some of the fired attorneys are spinning this
 as a case of them being improperly pressured on their 
 investigations.

None of them said a word until the administration
claimed they had been fired for incompetence, despite
their glowing performance evaluations.

Both New Mexico senators have acknowledged calling
Iglesias, the New Mexico U.S. attorney, to ask about
the progress of an investigation into Democratic
corruption in the state prior to the election, in
which a Republican candidate for Congress was facing
a very tough race (she won, but just barely).  The
senators had no business doing that.

 From what
 I've read, there are some grounds for questioning the vigor of the
 voter fraud investigations in Washington state and New Mexico, as
 pointed out by the Wall Street Journal.

There are no grounds for such investigations in
the first place.  They're bogus.  The U.S. attorneys
looked into the charges and found they had no merit.

 So, why didn't you post a link to the Journal? 
 
 That's the problem with partisans like you - you only want us
 to read one side of each story.

There really isn't any other side to this story, not
that's legitimate, at any rate.  The Wall Street Journal
editorial board, as you know, leans way far to the right.

 That's misleading and unfair. In fact, it's an
 indication of a very strong political bias.
 
 What makes this situation even more like hypocrisy on your
 part is that Sen. Hillary Clinton wants Attorney General
 Alberto Gonzales to resign!

Along with several other senators and congresspersons
and a host of U.S. newspapers.

 This is the same Hillary Clinton whose husband fired all 93 U.S.
 attorneys

As is customary when a new president takes office.  Bush
and Reagan also fired most of the attorneys when they
took office.

 while the Whitewater investigation was going on. Go
 figure.

The Whitewater investigation (which cleared the Clintons
of any wrongdoing) began in 1994.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 Somebody did a bit of research and discovered that
 about seven times as many Democrats as Republicans
 have been investigated during the Bush administration.
 At least some of the folks who were fired had
 apparently not gotten with the program.

You need to check your research, Judy - this has already been totally
debunked. You need to stop posting political propaganda to this forum.
From what I've read, there are some very significant methodological
problems with the research:

Their claim is flat wrong. It is incumbent on the authors to disclose
their methods and selection criteria, so we may determine whether
their omission was intentional or inadvertent.

http://tinyurl.com/39ovto



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Speaks

2007-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:39 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Speaks

Agreed.

But there is another point. The Beatles did not understand that He 
wanted to use them and their fame for a higher Good, for the 
enlightenment and upliftment of the youth at that time.

Their egos and sense of independence panicked.

Stuck in their vision of themselves as famous and forever young and 
creative they descided to split. 

Confronted with great saints like Maharishi most people do. Only a 
few old souls stay put, ready for new opportunities. These are souls 
that have been through the same process of challenge and 
purification, life after life. Now they very well might be harvesting 
what they sowed for so long. Thanks to the shakti that Guru Dev 
passed on to Maharishi, and which He passes on to the masses of the 
World.

George, Ringo and Paul did adknowledge Maharishi, decades after they 
were challenged and had the opportunity. A tad too late, but still, 
better than many on this list. Well done boys !

Reportedly John called him too, but Maharishi wouldn't speak with him.



[FairfieldLife] Ides of March?

2007-03-14 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
15 MARCH

  1912-82: Sam ‘Lightnin’’ Hopkins

  1932b: Arif Mardin (Atlantic soul producer)

  1940b: Phil Lesh (bass, Grateful Dead)

  1941b: Mike Love (Beach Boys)

  1944b: Sly Stone (Sylvester Stewart)

  1947b: Ry Cooder

  1969: Goodbye Cream enters the UK LP charts at #1.

  1975: Marc Bolan disbands T-Rex.

  1975: Led Zeppelin’s Physical Graffiti enters the UK LP charts. 

  1982: Bob Dylan inducted into the Songwriters Hall Of Fame in New York.

 
-
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Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 14, 2007, at 1:37 PM, authfriend wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 On Mar 14, 2007, at 1:16 PM, authfriend wrote:

 The scandal is that they were removed not for
 incompetence or malfeasance, but because they weren't
 serving the political purposes of the administration.

 Supposedly they weren't investigating enough Democrats prior
 to the election.

 And/or that they were investigating too many
 Republicans.

IOW, doing their job--can't have that.

 Somebody did a bit of research and discovered that
 about seven times as many Democrats as Republicans
 have been investigated during the Bush administration.
 At least some of the folks who were fired had
 apparently not gotten with the program.



Re: [FairfieldLife] fairfield after maharishi's death

2007-03-14 Thread Vaj
Slowly fade away in a couple of decades as original TMers die off,  
becoming a mixed new age community with a health conscious slant to  
it. It will continue to attract whatever the latest spiritual  
materialistic fad is preying on the naivete of the masses. It will  
likely never regain it's earlier status unless something bigger and  
better comes to town, which is doubtful, but... ya never know.


Of course SSRS could probably afford to buy MUM. In which case it  
would revive bigger than it ever was.


On Mar 14, 2007, at 2:03 PM, shucktipat wrote:


 I am wondering what effect the death of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi will
have on the community in Fairfield. Will a lot of folks move away or
will it thrive?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Speaks

2007-03-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:39 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Speaks
 
 Agreed.
 
 But there is another point. The Beatles did not understand that He 
 wanted to use them and their fame for a higher Good, for the 
 enlightenment and upliftment of the youth at that time.
 
 Their egos and sense of independence panicked.
 
 Stuck in their vision of themselves as famous and forever young and 
 creative they descided to split. 
 
 Confronted with great saints like Maharishi most people do. Only a 
 few old souls stay put, ready for new opportunities. These are 
souls 
 that have been through the same process of challenge and 
 purification, life after life. Now they very well might be 
harvesting 
 what they sowed for so long. Thanks to the shakti that Guru Dev 
 passed on to Maharishi, and which He passes on to the masses of the 
 World.
 
 George, Ringo and Paul did adknowledge Maharishi, decades after 
they 
 were challenged and had the opportunity. A tad too late, but still, 
 better than many on this list. Well done boys !
 
 Reportedly John called him too, but Maharishi wouldn't speak with 
him.

John made a fool of himself, thinking he was more interesting 
(popular) than Jesus.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Ides of March?

2007-03-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 15 MARCH
 
   1912-82: Sam `Lightnin'' Hopkins
 
   1932b: Arif Mardin (Atlantic soul producer)
 
   1940b: Phil Lesh (bass, Grateful Dead)
 
   1941b: Mike Love (Beach Boys)
 
   1944b: Sly Stone (Sylvester Stewart)
 
   1947b: Ry Cooder
 
   1969: Goodbye Cream enters the UK LP charts at #1.
 
   1975: Marc Bolan disbands T-Rex.
 
   1975: Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti enters the UK LP charts. 
 
   1982: Bob Dylan inducted into the Songwriters Hall Of Fame in 
New York.
 
1956b: Dee Snider (lead singer, Twisted Sister)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
  How many U.S. Attorneys did Bush fire when he took office?
 
jstein wrote: 
 Almost all of them. Same with Reagan.

What's up with this:

Forty-eight of the fifty-four U.S. Attorneys studied had resigned to
pursue other jobs, such as federal judgeships or more lucrative
opportunities in the private sector. Of the remaining eight, two were
apparently dismissed by President Reagan for specific behavior and
three resigned after questionable conduct.

Source:

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/alerts/182



[FairfieldLife] Re: fairfield after maharishi's death

2007-03-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ffia1120 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shucktipat no_reply@ wrote:
 
   I am wondering what effect the death of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi will 
  have on the community in Fairfield. Will a lot of folks move away 
or 
  will it thrive?
  
 I have lived here 27 years (moved here to attend MIU). Nothing much 
 will change. There will be some true believers who have a rough time 
of 
 it, but the vast majority of us will carry on as usual. Life is good 
 here.

 Not much will happen until Sidhas and Governors starts to float in the 
Domes. Could happen anytime. So eat your pride folks and get in there !




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ides of March?

2007-03-14 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
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 Statement to the Senate, September 19, 
1985

I do not know if it is morning or afternoon. I will say both. Good morning and 
good afternoon.

My name is Dee Snider. That is S-n-i-d-e-r. I have been asked to come here to 
present my views on the subject of the content of certain sound recordings and 
suggestions that recording packages be labeled to provide a warning to 
prospective purchasers of sexually explicit or other potentially offensive 
content.

Before I get into that, I would like to tell the committee a little bit about 
myself. I am 30 years old. I am married. I have a three-year-old son. I was 
born and raised a Christian and I still adhere to those principles. Believe it 
or not, I do not smoke, I do not drink, and I do not do drugs. I do play in and 
write the songs for a rock ‘n’ roll band named Twisted Sister that is 
classified as heavy metal, and I pride myself on writing songs that are 
consistent with my above-mentioned beliefs. Since I seem to be the only person 
addressing this committee today who has been a direct target of accusations 
from the presumably responsible PMRC, I would like to use this occasion to 
speak on a more personal note and show just how unfair the whole concept of 
lyrical interpretation and judgment can be and how many times this can amount 
to little more than character assassination.

I have taken the liberty of distributing to you material and lyrics pertaining 
to these accusations. There were three attacks in particular which I would like 
to address.

Accusation No. 1.

This attack was contained in an article written by Tipper Gore, which was given 
the forum of a full page in my hometown newspaper on Long Island. In this 
article Ms. Gore claimed that one of my songs, Under the Blade, had lyrics 
encouraging sadomasochism, bondage, and rape.

The lyrics she quoted have absolutely nothing to do with these topics. On the 
contrary, the words in question are about surgery and the fear that it instills 
in people. Furthermore, the reader of this article is led to believe that the 
three lines she quotes go together in the song when, as you can see, from 
reading the lyrics, the first two lines she cites are an edited phrase from the 
second verse and the third line is a misquote of a line from the chorus.

That the writer could misquote me is curious, since we make it a point to print 
all our lyrics on the inner sleeve of every album. As the creator of Under the 
Blade, I can say categorically that the... only sadomasochism, bondage, and 
rape in this song is in the mind of Ms. Gore.

Accusation No. 2

The PMRC has made public a list of 15 of what they feel are some of the most 
blatant songs lyrically. On this list is our song We’re Not Gonna Take It, 
upon which has been bestowed a V rating, indicating violent lyrical content.

You will note from the lyrics before you that there is absolutely no violence 
of any type either sung about or implied anywhere in the song. Now, it strikes 
me that the PMRC may have confused our video presentation for this song with 
the meaning of the lyrics.

It is no secret that the videos often depict storylines completely unrelated to 
the lyrics of the song they accompany. The video We’re Not Gonna Take It was 
simply meant to be a cartoon with human actors playing variations on the 
Roadrunner/Wile E. Coyote theme, Each stunt was selected from my extensive 
personal collection of cartoons.

You will note when you watch the entire video that after each catastrophe our 
villain suffers through, in the next sequence he reappears unharmed by any 
previous attack, no worse for the wear.

By the way, I am very pleased to note that the United Way of America has been 
granted a request to use 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 3/14/07 1:25:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

jstein  wrote: 
 Almost all of them. Same with Reagan.

What's up  with this:

Forty-eight of the fifty-four U.S. Attorneys studied had  resigned to
pursue other jobs, such as federal judgeships or more  lucrative
opportunities in the private sector. Of the remaining eight, two  were
apparently dismissed by President Reagan for specific behavior  and
three resigned after questionable  conduct.




Some more nice reading on the matter_OpinionJournal  - Featured Article_ 
(http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009784)  
BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free 
email to everyone.  Find out more about what's free from AOL at 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   How many U.S. Attorneys did Bush fire when he took office?
  
 jstein wrote: 
  Almost all of them. Same with Reagan.
 
 What's up with this:
 
 Forty-eight of the fifty-four U.S. Attorneys studied had resigned to
 pursue other jobs, such as federal judgeships or more lucrative
 opportunities in the private sector. Of the remaining eight, two 
 were apparently dismissed by President Reagan for specific behavior 
 and three resigned after questionable conduct.

Exactly.  Thanks for confirming.

From the same article:

Today, a new report concludes that Bush's actions were completely 
unprecedented. The study was conducted by the non-partisan 
Congressional Research Service (CRS) and released by House Judiciary 
Chairman Rep. John Conyers and Subcommittee Chairwoman Rep. Linda 
Sánchez.

The CRS found that of the 486 U.S. Attorneys confirmed in a 
president's initial term since 1981, 54 left voluntarily before 
completing a full four-year term. Of those, no more than three had 
been forced out under circumstances similar to the current situation.

The examination is ongoing because the Bush Administration has 
refused to cooperate with the CRS' investigation. I intend to do 
everything within my power to obtain the necessary information and 
get to the bottom of this growing scandal, Conyers said.


 Source:
 
 http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/alerts/182





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 3/14/07 1:25:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

jstein  wrote: 
 Almost all of them. Same with Reagan.

What's up  with this:

Forty-eight of the fifty-four U.S. Attorneys studied had  resigned to
pursue other jobs, such as federal judgeships or more  lucrative
opportunities in the private sector. Of the remaining eight, two  were
apparently dismissed by President Reagan for specific behavior  and
three resigned after questionable conduct.



The Law  
3-2.120 Appointment 

United States Attorneys are appointed by the President with the advice and  
consent of the Senate for a four-year term. See 28 U.S.C. Sec. 541. Upon  
expiration of this term, the United States Attorney continues to perform the  
duties of the office until a successor is confirmed. United States Attorneys 
are  
subject to removal at the will of the President. See Parsons v. United  States, 
167 U.S. 314 (1897). 
BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free 
email to everyone.  Find out more about what's free from AOL at 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 3/14/07 1:25:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 jstein  wrote: 
  Almost all of them. Same with Reagan.
 
 What's up  with this:
 
 Forty-eight of the fifty-four U.S. Attorneys studied had  resigned 
to
 pursue other jobs, such as federal judgeships or more  lucrative
 opportunities in the private sector. Of the remaining eight, two  
were
 apparently dismissed by President Reagan for specific behavior  and
 three resigned after questionable  conduct.
 
 Some more nice reading on the matter

Were you under the impression that what Willytex
posted somehow refuted what I wrote?

_OpinionJournal  - Featured Article_ 
 (http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009784)

Wow, what a dishonest column.  Good old Wall Street
Journal.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 3/14/07 1:25:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 jstein  wrote: 
  Almost all of them. Same with Reagan.
 
 What's up  with this:
 
 Forty-eight of the fifty-four U.S. Attorneys studied had  resigned 
to
 pursue other jobs, such as federal judgeships or more  lucrative
 opportunities in the private sector. Of the remaining eight, two  
were
 apparently dismissed by President Reagan for specific behavior  and
 three resigned after questionable conduct.
 
 
 
 The Law  
 3-2.120 Appointment 
 
 United States Attorneys are appointed by the President with the 
advice and  
 consent of the Senate for a four-year term. See 28 U.S.C. Sec. 541. 
Upon  
 expiration of this term, the United States Attorney continues to 
perform the  
 duties of the office until a successor is confirmed. United States 
Attorneys are  
 subject to removal at the will of the President. See Parsons v. 
United  States, 
 167 U.S. 314 (1897).

Were you under the impression that this refutes
anything I've been saying?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 3/14/07 1:25:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
  willytex@ writes:
  
  jstein  wrote: 
   Almost all of them. Same with Reagan.
  
  What's up  with this:
  
  Forty-eight of the fifty-four U.S. Attorneys studied had  
resigned 
 to
  pursue other jobs, such as federal judgeships or more  lucrative
  opportunities in the private sector. Of the remaining eight, two  
 were
  apparently dismissed by President Reagan for specific behavior  
and
  three resigned after questionable  conduct.
  
  Some more nice reading on the matter
 
 Were you under the impression that what Willytex
 posted somehow refuted what I wrote?
 
 _OpinionJournal  - Featured Article_ 
  (http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?
id=110009784)
 
 Wow, what a dishonest column.  Good old Wall Street
 Journal.

It is customary for a President to replace U.S. Attorneys at the 
beginning of a term. Ronald Reagan replaced every sitting U.S. 
Attorney when he appointed his first Attorney General. President 
Clinton, acting through me as Acting AG, did the same thing, even 
with few permanent candidates in mind.--Stuart Gerson, assistant 
attorney general under George H.W. Bush




RE: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Speaks

2007-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:52 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Speaks

 

In a message dated 3/14/2007 10:49:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Guru upset by Beatles' drug use


WORLD BRIEFINGS
By David Orr
LONDON DAILY TELEGRAPH
March 6, 2006 

 

NEW DELHI -- The spat between the Beatles and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1968
became an instant pop legend as perhaps the most bitter breakup in the era
of free love. 
Now, after almost four decades of rumor and counter-rumor, a confidant
of both sides has gone public with revelations that could upset many of the
band's fans. 
Spiritualist and author Deepak Chopra, a former maharishi disciple and a
friend of the late George Harrison, has said that contrary to popular myth,
the row had nothing to do with charges that the maharishi made sexual
advances toward Mia Farrow, the actress and friend of the band. 



Presumably Deepak knows this because George Harrison told him. Otherwise,
how would he know? The Beatles were in Rishikesh in what, 1968? Deepak
didn't learn TM until 1980 or so. Anyway, the story John Lennon told was
quite different. Maharishi didn't want the Beatles to leave and tried to
talk them out of it. Also, Cynthia Lennon, in her book A Twist of Lennon,
said the Beatles were drug-free in Rishikesh. I think she would know better
than Deepak.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Ides of March?

2007-03-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 My name is Dee Snider. That is S-n-i-d-e-r.

Thanks- I always liked this guy...His daughter now wears his make-up 
too, for a classic father/daughter duo. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush's bad ju-ju...

2007-03-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 3/14/07 1:25:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
  willytex@ writes:
  
  jstein  wrote: 
   Almost all of them. Same with Reagan.
  
  What's up  with this:
  
  Forty-eight of the fifty-four U.S. Attorneys studied had  
resigned 
 to
  pursue other jobs, such as federal judgeships or more  lucrative
  opportunities in the private sector. Of the remaining eight, 
two  
 were
  apparently dismissed by President Reagan for specific behavior  
and
  three resigned after questionable  conduct.
  
  Some more nice reading on the matter
 
 Were you under the impression that what Willytex
 posted somehow refuted what I wrote?
 
 _OpinionJournal  - Featured Article_ 
  (http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?
id=110009784)
 
 Wow, what a dishonest column.  Good old Wall Street
 Journal.

Its the old two wrongs make a right approach.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Speaks

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
snip
 John made a fool of himself, thinking he was more interesting 
 (popular) than Jesus.

That's not fair. It wasn't an egotistical statement
at all, it was a wry commentary on how crazy people's
values were.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Newspapers call for Gonzales's head

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Both New Mexico senators have acknowledged calling
 Iglesias, the New Mexico U.S. attorney, to ask about

Sorry, that's one New Mexico senator (Domenici) and
one New Mexico representative (Wilson, who was up
for reelection against a strong Democrat).




[FairfieldLife] Slacker.com: free custom radio

2007-03-14 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/383ack



[FairfieldLife] Beyond Google: people search

2007-03-14 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/2rtfc3



Re: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Speaks

2007-03-14 Thread Vaj


On Mar 14, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

In a message dated 3/14/2007 10:49:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Guru upset by Beatles' drug use

WORLD BRIEFINGS
By David Orr
LONDON DAILY TELEGRAPH
March 6, 2006



NEW DELHI -- The spat between the Beatles and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi  
in 1968 became an instant pop legend as perhaps the most bitter  
breakup in the era of free love.
Now, after almost four decades of rumor and counter-rumor, a  
confidant of both sides has gone public with revelations that could  
upset many of the band's fans.
Spiritualist and author Deepak Chopra, a former maharishi  
disciple and a friend of the late George Harrison, has said that  
contrary to popular myth, the row had nothing to do with charges  
that the maharishi made sexual advances toward Mia Farrow, the  
actress and friend of the band.


Presumably Deepak knows this because George Harrison told him.  
Otherwise, how would he know? The Beatles were in Rishikesh in  
what, 1968? Deepak didn’t learn TM until 1980 or so. Anyway, the  
story John Lennon told was quite different. Maharishi didn’t want  
the Beatles to leave and tried to talk them out of it. Also,  
Cynthia Lennon, in her book “A Twist of Lennon,” said the Beatles  
were drug-free in Rishikesh. I think she would know better than  
Deepak.
Yeah it goes against most other accounts out there. It may just be an  
attempt by Deepak to heal the situation for the Reesh.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

2007-03-14 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[snip]
 From what I've read on Usenet, Vaj and Barry are probably two of the
 most expert authorities on eastern spiritual practices on the entire
 planet. 

You're wrong, but that's beside the point.

The point I made in this thread is that only intellectual knowledge is
worthless, even counterproductive. That's one reason for Maharishi's
greatness - he has actually given people the experience and tools they
need to become Enlightened. 

What's worth more than that?

 I may not agree with some of their opinions, but I'll give
 credit where credit is due. However, as Lawson recently pointed out,
 you really got mixed up on your recent editing of the Wikipedia entry
 on Mahesh Yogi. What happened over there that got you kicked off?

I left, that's what happened. Had I wanted to stay I would still be
there (believed I proved this point on two ocassions after leaving).

What happened is that I was ambushed by (1) a bunch of wikipedia
admins  that would have put Stalin's prosecutor Andrei Vyshinsky to
shame; and (2) a couple of adamant anti-TMers that owned licenses to
break wikipedia rules with impunity; and (2) 




[FairfieldLife] Re: fairfield after maharishi's death

2007-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From a friend who recently moved back to Fairfield I hear that the 
 true believers have moved to Vedic City so Fairfield itself is more 
 normal folks or Sonoma in the cornfields as I call it. :)

Hmmm...

So the approximately 1K yogic flyers who participate who live in Fairfield are 
NOT true 
believers?

I'm sure the most hard core have moved to MVC, but there has to be some element 
of TBism 
to continue to live in Fairfield, IA and do twice-daily program  in the domes.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Speaks

2007-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:52 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Deepak Speaks
 
  
 
 In a message dated 3/14/2007 10:49:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 Guru upset by Beatles' drug use
 
 
 WORLD BRIEFINGS
 By David Orr
 LONDON DAILY TELEGRAPH
 March 6, 2006 
 
  
 
 NEW DELHI -- The spat between the Beatles and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1968
 became an instant pop legend as perhaps the most bitter breakup in the era
 of free love. 
 Now, after almost four decades of rumor and counter-rumor, a confidant
 of both sides has gone public with revelations that could upset many of the
 band's fans. 
 Spiritualist and author Deepak Chopra, a former maharishi disciple and a
 friend of the late George Harrison, has said that contrary to popular myth,
 the row had nothing to do with charges that the maharishi made sexual
 advances toward Mia Farrow, the actress and friend of the band. 
 
 
 
 Presumably Deepak knows this because George Harrison told him. Otherwise,
 how would he know? The Beatles were in Rishikesh in what, 1968? Deepak
 didn't learn TM until 1980 or so. Anyway, the story John Lennon told was
 quite different. Maharishi didn't want the Beatles to leave and tried to
 talk them out of it. Also, Cynthia Lennon, in her book A Twist of Lennon,
 said the Beatles were drug-free in Rishikesh. I think she would know better
 than Deepak.



Didn't we discuss this a year ago? Or is FFL burping up old posts as new?



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: fairfield after maharishi's death

2007-03-14 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of ffia1120
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:55 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: fairfield after maharishi's death

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , shucktipat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am wondering what effect the death of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi will 
 have on the community in Fairfield. Will a lot of folks move away or 
 will it thrive?
 
I have lived here 27 years (moved here to attend MIU). Nothing much 
will change. There will be some true believers who have a rough time of 
it, but the vast majority of us will carry on as usual. Life is good 
here.

I think the movement will undergo some upheavals, but that should only
effect the TBs and provide entertainment for the rest of us.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Speaks

2007-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Mar 14, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
  In a message dated 3/14/2007 10:49:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Guru upset by Beatles' drug use
 
  WORLD BRIEFINGS
  By David Orr
  LONDON DAILY TELEGRAPH
  March 6, 2006
 
 
 
  NEW DELHI -- The spat between the Beatles and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi  
  in 1968 became an instant pop legend as perhaps the most bitter  
  breakup in the era of free love.
  Now, after almost four decades of rumor and counter-rumor, a  
  confidant of both sides has gone public with revelations that could  
  upset many of the band's fans.
  Spiritualist and author Deepak Chopra, a former maharishi  
  disciple and a friend of the late George Harrison, has said that  
  contrary to popular myth, the row had nothing to do with charges  
  that the maharishi made sexual advances toward Mia Farrow, the  
  actress and friend of the band.
 
  Presumably Deepak knows this because George Harrison told him.  
  Otherwise, how would he know? The Beatles were in Rishikesh in  
  what, 1968? Deepak didn't learn TM until 1980 or so. Anyway, the  
  story John Lennon told was quite different. Maharishi didn't want  
  the Beatles to leave and tried to talk them out of it. Also,  
  Cynthia Lennon, in her book A Twist of Lennon, said the Beatles  
  were drug-free in Rishikesh. I think she would know better than  
  Deepak.
 Yeah it goes against most other accounts out there. It may just be an  
 attempt by Deepak to heal the situation for the Reesh.


Or an attempt to position Deepak as the expert for all things Maharishi, as 
Judy suggested 
a year ago when this article first appeared...




[FairfieldLife] Re: fairfield after maharishi's death

2007-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of ffia1120
 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:55 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: fairfield after maharishi's death
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , shucktipat no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I am wondering what effect the death of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi will 
  have on the community in Fairfield. Will a lot of folks move away or 
  will it thrive?
  
 I have lived here 27 years (moved here to attend MIU). Nothing much 
 will change. There will be some true believers who have a rough time of 
 it, but the vast majority of us will carry on as usual. Life is good 
 here.
 
 I think the movement will undergo some upheavals, but that should only
 effect the TBs and provide entertainment for the rest of us.


Grief and upheavel is entertaining to you?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Deepak Speaks

2007-03-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
 
  
  On Mar 14, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
snip
   Presumably Deepak knows this because George Harrison told him.  
   Otherwise, how would he know? The Beatles were in Rishikesh in  
   what, 1968? Deepak didn't learn TM until 1980 or so. Anyway, 
   the story John Lennon told was quite different. Maharishi 
   didn't want the Beatles to leave and tried to talk them out of 
   it. Also, Cynthia Lennon, in her book A Twist of Lennon, said 
   the Beatles were drug-free in Rishikesh. I think she would
   know better than Deepak.
 
  Yeah it goes against most other accounts out there.
  It may just be an attempt by Deepak to heal the
  situation for the Reesh.
 
 Or an attempt to position Deepak as the expert for all
 things Maharishi, as Judy suggested a year ago when this
 article first appeared...

So that when MMY dies, the media come to Deepak,
and Deepak gets all kinds of free publicity.

Even Paul Mason said, over at TMFree, that Deepak's
account was bogus.

At any rate, it doesn't get much more absurd than
heal the situation for the Reesh.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Quote

2007-03-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
 [snip]
  From what I've read on Usenet, Vaj and Barry are probably two of the
  most expert authorities on eastern spiritual practices on the entire
  planet. 
 
 You're wrong, but that's beside the point.
 
 The point I made in this thread is that only intellectual knowledge is
 worthless, even counterproductive. That's one reason for Maharishi's
 greatness - he has actually given people the experience and tools they
 need to become Enlightened. 
 
 What's worth more than that?
 
  I may not agree with some of their opinions, but I'll give
  credit where credit is due. However, as Lawson recently pointed out,
  you really got mixed up on your recent editing of the Wikipedia entry
  on Mahesh Yogi. What happened over there that got you kicked off?
 
 I left, that's what happened. Had I wanted to stay I would still be
 there (believed I proved this point on two ocassions after leaving).
 
 What happened is that I was ambushed by (1) a bunch of wikipedia
 admins  that would have put Stalin's prosecutor Andrei Vyshinsky to
 shame; and (2) a couple of adamant anti-TMers that owned licenses to
 break wikipedia rules with impunity; and (2)


And one or more pro-TMers, including MUM faculty, who are completely 
embarrassed by 
your behavior there.



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