[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: So Doug, you're saying there are dome-eligible Fairfield 'rus who would rather meditate at home? I wonder if they reject the notion that group practice of the TM-Sidhi program creates good in society. It would be interesting if they believe in the efficacy of the TM-Sidhi program, but reject the Maharishi Effect. That efficacy aspect is a level of the question. It is a good question though that can get at things here. More often the answer to efficacy of the ME question is that some lot of people see the behavior of the movement as so bad that the feeling in the domes from that bad character aspect of the movement itself is counter-productive to the experience. It is common when you ask around and listen. Yes, lot of people do not go. It is also remarkable too how many people have current dome badges but do not go. Thanks for providing the man on the street feedback, Doug. It resonates with the feed- back I get from the few former TMers I am in contact with. The bottom line seems to be that there is a world of difference between the P.R. and the reality of TM and its benefits and the reality. It often does boil down to the moral dissonance problem as you canvas. They do not reject the ME necessarily. Folks know the experience of a good group meditation. That experience and hope is often what had brought people here originally. Increasingly though over the years people are identifying the experience of a bad-group meditation with doing program in the domes. So they would simply rather stay home. That was certainly my motivation 30+ years ago when I stopped going to program in L.A. I had the choice of driving from Marina del Rey to West L.A. and sitting on dirty sheets among a bunch of grunting, groaning people or staying at home and enjoying a nice quiet meditation. But then at the Center meetings I'd see these same grunting, groaning people talking about who they could declare persona non grata this month, and keep from attending any future courses because they'd been discovered to have the same Off The Program books on their bookshelves that the people declaring them persona non grata had stashed away in their closets. After a few months of this, I bailed, and haven't regretting it for a moment since. And that was in L.A., ferchrissakes, where you never had to run *into* these hypocrites on a day-to-day basis, unlike Fairfield. I would imagine that after a while people who had been fucked over a dozen times already by those who worked for MUM and the TMO and were in charge *of* the systematic fucking over just wouldn't want to disrupt their day to go sit beside these people and listen to them grunt and groan. :-) Then again it can also just be that some people just do not like to meditate in group regardless. The common denominator here though is that folks mostly do like their meditation. mostly folks are loyal to that. But yet an equally common denominator when you ask is that most folks do not do the whole blown TM-sidhi thing anymore as their practice, in or out of the dome. Very few do. It has gone on to something else for most people. It certainly did for me. I went to the course, flew the first day, and was bored with it by the second day. Big whoop -- bouncing around on your butt. I was after enlightenment, and got a few cheap thrills and kundalini rushes instead. I dropped doing the siddhis a few months after learning them, and haven't missed them since. I still meditate, but not TM-style. I have learned other techniques in the years since that I prefer. Of course, a lot of people have left over the years but of what remains, this aspect is pretty clear. I just ask and listen. Whereas the TMO just preaches and doesn't listen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Relevant thread, canvassing around as to why folks are not in the dome meditating, most often say they `like' meditating at home instead of the domes. That then breaks down, to that there is too much sleeping in the domes which dulls the experience, or there are too many people bad from the old TM-movement and therefore the feeling is bad in there and 3) there is a comunalenment in the group that the administration by their chs keeping it from happening. Doug, what are you saying in Point 3 above? Mostly folks in the larger meditating community would rather meditate at home and have a better experience than going up on campus. [snip]
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: Just curious, does Bevan or John ever do program in the Dome? R.G. An excellent question. For that matter, do any of the Rajas who have residences in Fairfield regularly do their program in the dome? If not, I think there is *only* one word that can be used to describe them -- hypocrites. ( I considered the word scumbags, but that doesn't adequately convey the sense of saying one thing about what they believe but doing another. )
[FairfieldLife] 'MSNBC Bans Lead Raksaha'
NBC CUTS COULTER; KEEPS PEREZ Mon Jan 05 2009 17:50:57 ET **Exclusive Details** The nation's top selling conservative author has been banned from appearing on NBC, insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT. We are just not going to have her on any more, it's over, a top network source explains. But a second top suit strongly denies there is any Coulter ban. Look for a re-invite, as soon as Wednesday, said the news executive, who asked not to be named. NBC's TODAY show abruptly cut Ann Coulter from its planned Tuesday broadcast, claiming the schedule was overbooked. Executives at NBC TODAY replaced Coulter with showbiz reporter Perez Hilton, who recently offered $1,000 to anyone who would throw a pie at Ann Coulter. Hilton is also launching a new book this week, RED CARPET SUICIDE. Coulter was set to unveil her new book, GUILTY. One network insider claims it was the book's theme -- a brutal examination of liberal bias in the new era -- that got executives to dis-invite the controversialist. We are just not interested in anyone so highly critical of President-elect Obama, right now, a TODAY insider reveals. It's such a downer. It's just not the time, and it's not what our audience wants, either. Others inside the peacock network strongly deny the book's theme is at issue. For the book, Coulter reportedly received the most-lucrative advance ever paid to a conservative author. The TODAY show eagerly invited the author months ago, for her first network interview on GUILTY. The exclusive was to air during the show's 7 AM hour. The cut came Monday afternoon. Coulter was also to appear on the TODAY's fourth hour. A host even teased the segment saying the 'conservative pit bull and bestselling author' would be a guest. NBC's cable outlet, MSNBC, will also become a Coulter-free zone, insiders explain. Morning host Joe Scarborough is said to be concerned with the new ban. He's working to overrule it, tips a source. Developing...
[FairfieldLife] 'MSNBC Bans Lead Raksashii'
NBC CUTS COULTER; KEEPS PEREZ Mon Jan 05 2009 17:50:57 ET **Exclusive Details** The nation's top selling conservative author has been banned from appearing on NBC, insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT. We are just not going to have her on any more, it's over, a top network source explains. But a second top suit strongly denies there is any Coulter ban. Look for a re-invite, as soon as Wednesday, said the news executive, who asked not to be named. NBC's TODAY show abruptly cut Ann Coulter from its planned Tuesday broadcast, claiming the schedule was overbooked. Executives at NBC TODAY replaced Coulter with showbiz reporter Perez Hilton, who recently offered $1,000 to anyone who would throw a pie at Ann Coulter. Hilton is also launching a new book this week, RED CARPET SUICIDE. Coulter was set to unveil her new book, GUILTY. One network insider claims it was the book's theme -- a brutal examination of liberal bias in the new era -- that got executives to dis-invite the controversialist. We are just not interested in anyone so highly critical of President-elect Obama, right now, a TODAY insider reveals. It's such a downer. It's just not the time, and it's not what our audience wants, either. Others inside the peacock network strongly deny the book's theme is at issue. For the book, Coulter reportedly received the most-lucrative advance ever paid to a conservative author. The TODAY show eagerly invited the author months ago, for her first network interview on GUILTY. The exclusive was to air during the show's 7 AM hour. The cut came Monday afternoon. Coulter was also to appear on the TODAY's fourth hour. A host even teased the segment saying the 'conservative pit bull and bestselling author' would be a guest. NBC's cable outlet, MSNBC, will also become a Coulter-free zone, insiders explain. Morning host Joe Scarborough is said to be concerned with the new ban. He's working to overrule it, tips a source. Developing...
[FairfieldLife] 'I Predict'
I predict there will be more Vedic Pundits, Per capita, living somewhere in Iowa, Than any other place; Both sides of the Mississippi. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: Just curious, does Bevan or John ever do program in the Dome? R.G. An excellent question. For that matter, do any of the Rajas who have residences in Fairfield regularly do their program in the dome? If not, I think there is *only* one word that can be used to describe them -- hypocrites. ( I considered the word scumbags, but that doesn't adequately convey the sense of saying one thing about what they believe but doing another. ) Heretics, all of them! Judge Not, and Ye Shall Not Be Judged J.C.
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: Just curious, does Bevan or John ever do program in the Dome? Still curious, I'm wondering whether *anyone* has ever seen His Serene Bloatedness fly. I have to admit, I'd pay good money for a film of it. If he can get *that* butt even an inch off the foam, I'll start to believe that there's more to butt-bouncing than muscular reaction to a little cheap kundalini rush. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: Just curious, does Bevan or John ever do program in the Dome? Still curious, I'm wondering whether *anyone* has ever seen His Serene Bloatedness fly. I have to admit, I'd pay good money for a film of it. If he can get *that* butt even an inch off the foam, I'll start to believe that there's more to butt-bouncing than muscular reaction to a little cheap kundalini rush. :-) That is a funny one, Turk... I laughed at that one. Good film.
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: Just curious, does Bevan or John ever do program in the Dome? R.G. An excellent question. For that matter, do any of the Rajas who have residences in Fairfield regularly do their program in the dome? If not, I think there is *only* one word that can be used to describe them -- hypocrites. ( I considered the word scumbags, but that doesn't adequately convey the sense of saying one thing about what they believe but doing another. ) Heretics, all of them! Judge Not, and Ye Shall Not Be Judged J.C. Judge not, and ye shall be taken to the cleaners by people who don't walk their own talk. B.W. :-) It's the most interesting question posed on this forum in quite a while IMO. I can't believe that no one has asked it before. Do *any* of the high-ranking royalty of the TM movement go to the domes to support the programs they urge others to give up their careers to follow slavishly? I'm waiting with 'bated breath for the answer to this one. I'm waiting with even more 'bated breath for the TB's excuses if the answer to the question is No. *What*, after all, could they possibly say?
[FairfieldLife] Re: A great American Guitarist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Janet Luise janlu...@... wrote: And then for those hillbillies on the list . also a Great American Guitarist! Just listen to those chickens! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndiMnwz5XjA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Not for Hillbillies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVaotTRHExE Nice, both are great american artists :-) Also catch Scofield's The Chicken !
[FairfieldLife] 'Taste of Utopia + Hitler Weather'
I remember, somewhere, back in time... During WWII, there was this thing, called: Hitler Weather. I remember, that some of the big battles, were accompanied by 'Hitler Weather'... Hitler weather, could be just 'damn cold as a witched tit in January'... With accompanying, freezing rain, cold feet, feelings of longing and shaking, etc. On the first night, of the 'Taste of Utopia Course' held in Fairfield, Iowa... In December of 1983, boy it was a cold one! The TV station, from all the way in Cedar Rapids, had a live cam, there. They said, here all all these fools, shaking in the cold, waiting for their Guru, to appear. Maharishi, finally appeared. It was cold, damn cold. The next morning, all the pipes in the house were froze up. We said, us townies, 'Thank God', it's only a taste of utopia... Maharishi stayed, clear through January, longest he ever stayed. All together, must have been around six weeks, I believe. My son, decided he would be born, the day M, left, Fairfield, for the last time. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: Just curious, does Bevan or John ever do program in the Dome? R.G. Of course not. TBers favor VC, don't you know ? There are a number of program buildings in VC. I would imagine that such is the allure of VC that ambitious wannabees strive for access to the VC program facilities - and leave FF proper, drive past the domes, and head to VC to share foam-time with the elites. Such dedication to promote the propaganda of the superiority of VC, and its inhabitants, helps the TMO complete its goal to siphon every last dollar from the lives of the faithful.. Any wonder why going to group program just isn't what it used to be ?
[FairfieldLife] Russian sounding name protected Madoff?
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/135ae9f2-da92-11dd-8c28-77b07658.html Wall Street `red light' on Madoff By Henny Sender in New York Published: January 4 2009 23:31 | Last updated: January 4 2009 23:31 Large Wall Street firms privately harboured suspicions about Bernard Madoff's investment business, in some cases steering clients away from dealing with him, but were reluctant to share their concerns with regulators, according to US bankers. Banks were sceptical that Mr Madoff could deliver the consistently high returns that he reported, and they were also put off by a lack of transparency at his investment firm. For these reasons, big Wall Street firms are notably absent from the long list of victims of Mr Madoff's alleged Ponzi scheme. Fabio Savoldelli, chief investment officer of Merrill Lynch Investment Management prior to its 2006 merger with BlackRock, sounded the warning internally years ago. One of Merrill's financial advisers, who deals with clients worth tens of millions of dollars, recalled Mr Savoldelli's suspicions of Mr Madoff's returns eight years ago.
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
(snip) Of course not. TBers favor VC, don't you know ? There are a number of program buildings in VC. I would imagine that such is the allure of VC that ambitious wannabees strive for access to the VC program facilities - and leave FF proper, drive past the domes, and head to VC to share foam-time with the elites. Such dedication to promote the propaganda of the superiority of VC, and its inhabitants, helps the TMO complete its goal to siphon every last dollar from the lives of the faithful.. Any wonder why going to group program just isn't what it used to be ? (snip) Sounds, just like the atmosphere in D.C. D.C. doesn't even have a representative in congress... That sounds familiar. Plus, the Bush's thought they would just rent the property out for a while. But, Thank the Good God, of this Earth and Heaven, That now, we will have, 'Change we can believe in'... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Taste of Utopia + Hitler Weather'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: I remember, somewhere, back in time... During WWII, there was this thing, called: Hitler Weather. I remember, that some of the big battles, were accompanied by 'Hitler Weather'... Hitler weather, could be just 'damn cold as a witched tit in January'... With accompanying, freezing rain, cold feet, feelings of longing and shaking, etc. On the first night, of the 'Taste of Utopia Course' held in Fairfield, Iowa... In December of 1983, boy it was a cold one! The TV station, from all the way in Cedar Rapids, had a live cam, there. They said, here all all these fools, shaking in the cold, waiting for their Guru, to appear. Maharishi, finally appeared. It was cold, damn cold. The next morning, all the pipes in the house were froze up. We said, us townies, 'Thank God', it's only a taste of utopia... Maharishi stayed, clear through January, longest he ever stayed. All together, must have been around six weeks, I believe. My son, decided he would be born, the day M, left, Fairfield, for the last time. R.G. So, I am remembering more, of that time, in 1983-84, Taste of Utopia Course... I believe Maharishi arrived well before, the couse started...that was the only really cold day... As the course went on, the weather improved and it got nice. By the time my son was born, Maharishi has left that morning, and I remember walking outside the Fairfield Hospital, looking out at the clear night, full moon...Wow, I thought... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 mainstream20...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: Just curious, does Bevan or John ever do program in the Dome? R.G. Of course not. TBers favor VC, don't you know ? There are a number of program buildings in VC. I would imagine that such is the allure of VC that ambitious wannabees strive for access to the VC program facilities - and leave FF proper, drive past the domes, and head to VC to share foam-time with the elites. Such dedication to promote the propaganda of the superiority of VC, and its inhabitants, helps the TMO complete its goal to siphon every last dollar from the lives of the faithful.. Any wonder why going to group program just isn't what it used to be ? True, but this is an eternal truth, also... Because nothing is the same anymore, like it used to be. You see, change, means change. We need to discriminate the difference between: 'Change We Can Believe In' and... Whatever. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] 'Suicidal Hamas'
My father told me, that during WWI, he saw some of his fellow soldiers... Lose the will to live. One of the weapons, the nazis used, was this, 'screaming meaning', they called it... It would light up the sky all night, like a phosporous flare, and make a wistling sound, On it's way down... On the third day, of this, my father told me, some of the guys just stood up, And took a shot; they had lost the will to live. These people in Gaza, they lose the will to live. Some of them, actively prepare to die, in a religious cause... They become, and are becoming suicidal... Thoughts and dreams of suicide, attract death. This is a law of nature; what you put your attention on grows... So, this is the root of the current dileama, in the Holy Land. R.G.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'MSNBC Bans Lead Raksashii'
She is so profoundly devisive. Her critiques are almost always hate filled polemics. If a point she is making is valid, it is usually so covered in hate-shit you can't see it but can only smell the stench of hate. --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Robert babajii...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Robert babajii...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'MSNBC Bans Lead Raksashii' To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 3:57 AM NBC CUTS COULTER; KEEPS PEREZ Mon Jan 05 2009 17:50:57 ET **Exclusive Details** The nation's top selling conservative author has been banned from appearing on NBC, insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT. We are just not going to have her on any more, it's over, a top network source explains. But a second top suit strongly denies there is any Coulter ban. Look for a re-invite, as soon as Wednesday, said the news executive, who asked not to be named. NBC's TODAY show abruptly cut Ann Coulter from its planned Tuesday broadcast, claiming the schedule was overbooked. Executives at NBC TODAY replaced Coulter with showbiz reporter Perez Hilton, who recently offered $1,000 to anyone who would throw a pie at Ann Coulter. Hilton is also launching a new book this week, RED CARPET SUICIDE. Coulter was set to unveil her new book, GUILTY. One network insider claims it was the book's theme -- a brutal examination of liberal bias in the new era -- that got executives to dis-invite the controversialist. We are just not interested in anyone so highly critical of President-elect Obama, right now, a TODAY insider reveals. It's such a downer. It's just not the time, and it's not what our audience wants, either. Others inside the peacock network strongly deny the book's theme is at issue. For the book, Coulter reportedly received the most-lucrative advance ever paid to a conservative author. The TODAY show eagerly invited the author months ago, for her first network interview on GUILTY. The exclusive was to air during the show's 7 AM hour. The cut came Monday afternoon. Coulter was also to appear on the TODAY's fourth hour. A host even teased the segment saying the 'conservative pit bull and bestselling author' would be a guest. NBC's cable outlet, MSNBC, will also become a Coulter-free zone, insiders explain. Morning host Joe Scarborough is said to be concerned with the new ban. He's working to overrule it, tips a source. Developing...
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: Just curious, does Bevan or John ever do program in the Dome? R.G. Preferring cushy digs in Vedic City, the Hoi polloi don't mix with the unwashed rabble in the dome. I'm one of the simple folk in town, close to campus. I enjoy a 10-minute walk to the ladies dome when I'm not rushed for time or it's not too friggin cold. I still have ICE on the north slope of my driveway!
[FairfieldLife] 'In a Dream'
Ask a question, be open for the answer to reveal itself in your life - and get an answer. Works every time. :) Just keep an eye out and know that it will come. In a dream, the words of someone in line in front of you, the lyrics to a song - your day to day life will bring you what you're seeking. *hugs!* :) - Dawn www.thedailyspark.net
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'MSNBC Bans Lead Raksashii'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: She is so profoundly devisive. Her critiques are almost always hate filled polemics. If a point she is making is valid, it is usually so covered in hate-shit you can't see it but can only smell the stench of hate. I wonder what she smells like in person? Oh, no, I don't think so... Don't need to know that, do I,. really... Be careful what you wish for... R.G. From: Robert babajii...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'MSNBC Bans Lead Raksashii' To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 3:57 AM NBC CUTS COULTER; KEEPS PEREZ Mon Jan 05 2009 17:50:57 ET **Exclusive Details** The nation's top selling conservative author has been banned from appearing on NBC, insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT. We are just not going to have her on any more, it's over, a top network source explains. But a second top suit strongly denies there is any Coulter ban. Look for a re-invite, as soon as Wednesday, said the news executive, who asked not to be named. NBC's TODAY show abruptly cut Ann Coulter from its planned Tuesday broadcast, claiming the schedule was overbooked. Executives at NBC TODAY replaced Coulter with showbiz reporter Perez Hilton, who recently offered $1,000 to anyone who would throw a pie at Ann Coulter. Hilton is also launching a new book this week, RED CARPET SUICIDE. Coulter was set to unveil her new book, GUILTY. One network insider claims it was the book's theme -- a brutal examination of liberal bias in the new era -- that got executives to dis-invite the controversialist. We are just not interested in anyone so highly critical of President-elect Obama, right now, a TODAY insider reveals. It's such a downer. It's just not the time, and it's not what our audience wants, either. Others inside the peacock network strongly deny the book's theme is at issue. For the book, Coulter reportedly received the most-lucrative advance ever paid to a conservative author. The TODAY show eagerly invited the author months ago, for her first network interview on GUILTY. The exclusive was to air during the show's 7 AM hour. The cut came Monday afternoon. Coulter was also to appear on the TODAY's fourth hour. A host even teased the segment saying the 'conservative pit bull and bestselling author' would be a guest. NBC's cable outlet, MSNBC, will also become a Coulter-free zone, insiders explain. Morning host Joe Scarborough is said to be concerned with the new ban. He's working to overrule it, tips a source. Developing...
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Suicidal Hamas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: My father told me, that during WWI, he saw some of his fellow soldiers... Lose the will to live. One of the weapons, the nazis used, was this, 'screaming meaning', they called it... It would light up the sky all night, like a phosporous flare, and make a wistling sound, On it's way down... On the third day, of this, my father told me, some of the guys just stood up, And took a shot; they had lost the will to live. These people in Gaza, they lose the will to live. Some of them, actively prepare to die, in a religious cause... They become, and are becoming suicidal... Thoughts and dreams of suicide, attract death. This is a law of nature; what you put your attention on grows... So, this is the root of the current dileama, in the Holy Land. R.G. Is suicide bombing justified or condemned under Islam? Suicide is against Islam. Martyrdom is not. Suicide bomber is a derogatory term invented in the West to try and describe what in Islam is known as a Fedayeen or Shahid... a martyr. The point of the bomber isn't suicide. It is to kill infidels in battle. This is not just permitted by Muhammad, but encouraged with liberal promises of heavenly reward. http://tinyurl.com/2pdr66 IMO this is crazy making semantics. It's not suicide because you're not killing yourself, you're killing infidels by killing yourself, so it's martyrdom and therefore okey-dokey. WTF? Somebody explain this to me. raunchydog
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Suicidal Hamas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: My father told me, that during WWI, he saw some of his fellow soldiers... Lose the will to live. One of the weapons, the nazis used, was this, **'screaming meaning', they called it... It would light up the sky all night, like a phosporous flare, and make a wistling sound, On it's way down... On the third day, of this, my father told me, some of the guys just stood up, And took a shot; they had lost the will to live. These people in Gaza, they lose the will to live. Some of them, actively prepare to die, in a religious cause... They become, and are becoming suicidal... Thoughts and dreams of suicide, attract death. This is a law of nature; what you put your attention on grows... So, this is the root of the current dileama, in the Holy Land. R.G. Is suicide bombing justified or condemned under Islam? Suicide is against Islam. Martyrdom is not. Suicide bomber is a derogatory term invented in the West to try and describe what in Islam is known as a Fedayeen or Shahid... a martyr. The point of the bomber isn't suicide. It is to kill infidels in battle. This is not just permitted by Muhammad, but encouraged with liberal promises of heavenly reward. http://tinyurl.com/2pdr66 IMO this is crazy making semantics. It's not suicide because you're not killing yourself, you're killing infidels by killing yourself, so it's martyrdom and therefore okey-dokey. WTF? Somebody explain this to me. raunchydog I meant to say, that the weapon was dubbed a: 'Screaming Meanie'... I guess it must have had a 'meaning' too... What is the meaning of war? R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Suicidal Hamas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: My father told me, that during WWI, he saw some of his fellow soldiers... Lose the will to live. One of the weapons, the nazis used, was this, 'screaming meaning', they called it... It would light up the sky all night, like a phosporous flare, and make a wistling sound, On it's way down... On the third day, of this, my father told me, some of the guys just stood up, And took a shot; they had lost the will to live. These people in Gaza, they lose the will to live. Some of them, actively prepare to die, in a religious cause... They become, and are becoming suicidal... Thoughts and dreams of suicide, attract death. This is a law of nature; what you put your attention on grows... So, this is the root of the current dileama, in the Holy Land. R.G. Is suicide bombing justified or condemned under Islam? Suicide is against Islam. Martyrdom is not. Suicide bomber is a derogatory term invented in the West to try and describe what in Islam is known as a Fedayeen or Shahid... a martyr. The point of the bomber isn't suicide. It is to kill infidels in battle. This is not just permitted by Muhammad, but encouraged with liberal promises of heavenly reward. http://tinyurl.com/2pdr66 IMO this is crazy making semantics. It's not suicide because you're not killing yourself, you're killing infidels by killing yourself, so it's martyrdom and therefore okey-dokey. WTF? Somebody explain this to me. raunchydog It's easy to explain; it's called a lie. You explained it yourself, above. There is and has been a lot of lies in this world. Lies are at the bottom of the financial collapse. Lies are at the bottom of the world's troubles... This is what we mean by: 'Change we can believe in'... 'Just tell the truth, because the truth will set you free'... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: Just curious, does Bevan or John ever do program in the Dome? R.G. Preferring cushy digs in Vedic City, the Hoi polloi don't mix with the unwashed rabble in the dome. I'm one of the simple folk in town, close to campus. I enjoy a 10-minute walk to the ladies dome when I'm not rushed for time or it's not too friggin cold. I still have ICE on the north slope of my driveway! casting evil eye at RD's icy driveway
[FairfieldLife] 2-All: from Mark Kincaid,...vs... New Book Coming Out:
[FairfieldLife] 2-All: from Mark Kincaid,...vs... New Book Coming Out: Seasons of the Stars
Dear Friends: I'm very happy to announce a new book that's coming out. It's called: Seasons of the Stars - 12 Month Jyotish Transits Calendar - Appointment Book. I've been studying Jyotish, in Fairfield for over 22 years, and this is my 1st book. My unique perspective has been to study astrology and Jyotish from the point of view of Maharishi's philosophy of consciousness. This book, which contains 365 days of interpretations of each day in 2009, describes the favorable and unfavorable days of the entire year! Personally, I've made a special study of the Transits of astrology, through making a chart of each day for over 21 years. When you watch the stars, the entire nature and profundity of Astrology comes to you! As it turns out, we are astrological beings, living in an astrological universe, only we only get a very small percentage of what that means. When, you watch the Transits through the eyes of Jyotish, day after day, that true astrological nature of life, zooms out to you! I'll try and upload a few pages of the book for you. It's currently coming out as a printed book and e-book. The printed book is about 19.95 (plus sh) and the e-book is $ 10.00. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions at: markkinc...@naturesastrology.com Sincerely, Mark Kincaid www.naturesastrology.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Suktam chanted in FF
FW Pundit. Sharma will be teaching the Sri Suktam this Wednesday and Thursday evenings at 8:00 pm at 2140 227th Street. If you are learning the Sri Suktam for the first time, we recommend you plan to come for both evenings. If you already know it, you may find it helpful to attend one evening to brush up on your pronunciation. Pt. Sharma will check our pronunciation before the weekend recitations begin. Wed, Jan 7, 8:00 pm Group learning of Sri Suktam with Pt. Sharma at 227th Street Thurs, Jan 8, 8:00 pm Group learning of Sri Suktam with Pt. Sharma at 227th Street Friday, Jan 9, 2 pm Create colored mandala and set up - Morning Star Studio Friday, Jan 9, 7:00 pm - 9:30 pm Invocation with MahaLakshmi Puja - Morning Star Studio Saturday, Jan 10, 9:30 am - noon Puja Recitation of Sri Sukta for 1st group chanting 1:30 pm - 5 pm 2nd group chanting 7:00 pm 9:30 pm Open chanting and Lakshmi Sahasranam Sunday, Jan 11, 9:30 noon Puja 1st group chanting 1:30 pm - 5 pm 2nd group chanting 6:00 pm 9:30 pm - MahaLakshmi fire ceremony at Hamiltons with following closing prayers at Morning Star *** If you are out of town, you may still participate in this yagya. Please be sure to learn the Sri Suktam from a traditional source and let us know the total number of the Sri Suktam that you chant by Sunday afternoon. Then we will add your total to our numbers in Fairfield. Please call 641-455-9411 with inquires or numbers. FW: The Sri Sukta Sahasravartan Parayan Sri MahaLakshmi Yagya, a special 3 day yagya, will begin at 7:00 pm on Friday, January 9 with Maha Lakshmi puja. Our goal is to chant the Sri Suktam 1016 times by Sunday evening, January 11 To achieve the goal, chanting the Sri Suktam 1016 times, we need a committed group of 20 25 people who have learned or are keen to learn the Sri Suktam. Each person will chant at least 40 times during the weekend. There will be group learning of the Shri Sukta on Wednesday and Thursday evenings at 8:00 pm. Chanting held at Morningstar Studio, east side of the FF square.
[FairfieldLife] 'What are you doing here...?'
What are you doing here?: man asks wife at brothel Wed Jan 9, 2008 10:23am ESt var storyKeywords = US POLAND BROTHEL; var RTR_ArticleTitle = ''What are you doing here?'': man asks wife at brothel; var RTR_ArticleBlurb = WARSAW (Reuters) - A Polish man got the shock of his life when he visited a brothel and spotted his wife among the establishment's employees. Polish tabloid Super Express said the woman had been making some extra money on the side while telling her...; addImpression(3098077_Article Tools); var showComments = false; var allowSLCall = false; function singlePageView() { document.location.href = ReplaceQueryStringParam(document.location.href, sp, true); } function replaceString(oldS, newS, fullS) { // Replaces oldS with newS in the string fullS for (var i = 0; i fullS.length; i++) { if (fullS.substring(i, i + oldS.length) == oldS) { fullS = fullS.substring(0, i) + newS + fullS.substring(i + oldS.length, fullS.length); } } return fullS; } var csvSymbolIds = ; var quoteLink = true; WARSAW (Reuters) - A Polish man got the shock of his life when he visited a brothel and spotted his wife among the establishment's employees. Polish tabloid Super Express said the woman had been making some extra money on the side while telling her husband she worked at a store in a nearby town. I was dumfounded. I thought I was dreaming, the husband told the newspaper on Wednesday. The couple, married for 14 years, are now divorcing, the newspaper reported. (Writing by Chris Borowski, Editing by Matthew Jones)
[FairfieldLife] Does Ann Coulter harm our culture more than, say, Hamas Leader Khaled Mashaal?
Although in this world of extremes there's literally millions of folks who are far more sold out to expressing negativity-that-calls-for-an-immediate-criminal-acting-out-of-rage than her, Ann Coulter's access to millions of minds via national media raises the question: Is Ann's influence merely superficially exciting negativity patterns in the minds of resonant listeners and, as such, jiggy-with-Ann-ness but another way for the masses to be mentally entertained such as when viewing, say, a slasher movie, or is she, more profoundly harming our culture by building/changing/harming minds by inculcating her brand of hate into those who (at present) merely have a slight tendency towards such negativity? If I ask: Really now, Edg, if Ann had never had access, and if FuxNoise had never found someone like her to plug into their programming, would America be measurably better off today?, then I have to admit, I would be very surprised if any measurement possible by today's analysis tools could pick up on even a slight influence by Ann. If that's so, why am I so vulnerable to her? Why do I give her so much immediate attention and space in my holy mind? Why can she trigger my anger processes into full alert so effortlessly when her true potency is no more harmful (per person) to society -- measurably -- than, say, a barking dog's harm when it excites negativity at 3 in the morning? To be silly, how many barking dog's worth of stress would it take to equal an Ann Coulter five-minute, KKK tirade on Fox? Am I really that intuitive that I KNOW she's harmful, or is she just an easy target, and, gadzooks, it is I -- not her -- who is really the holder-of-hate for the manifestation of which she's being set-up to take the fall when actually almost any reason will do me if I want to get myself high by hating? If we look at the concept of Maharishi's (hypocritical) stance that we should not rail on the heads of leaders, because they're just innocent expressions of the group consciousness of society, then Ann's presence merely shamefully proves our society's level of angst, and if not her, then someone or somemany will have gravitated to her position and have done whatever she didn't do; so Ann's really and actually only filling a slot and not deeply harming culture with any potency, but rather self-harming is an emergent property of our society's dissonance. (Hypocritical: George Bush is Satan. or England is a bad country. -- if that's not railing on innocents, I'd like to know what is.) I've had my own personal enemies who have coldly and cruelly trampled my best laid schemes and -- seemingly only -- been the causative agents in my gang aft agley experiences. It would be easy to justify virtually any manner of pay-back upon many of them -- except for that nasty fact of life: I am a free mind who involved myself with them, let them get under my radar, gave them access to me, and denied any and all intuitions about them, until, finally, they squished me into a writhing goo under their feet like a wad of gum on a hot sidewalk. How does one OWN one's participation in all the world's negativity? We thought we could escape causality by transcending the problems that we were a part of, right? That was the theory, right? But while the TFB is still telling the TBs that today's front-burner problems are merely that final roiling of Helium just before it enters perfect coherence when it's near absolute zero, and to expect that the Maharishi Effect will suddenly phase transition our society into peace any moment now that Maharishi's spiritual powers have increased a thousandfold now that he and Guru Dev are tag-teaming the earth with sacred intent, meanwhile, every ex-TB knows that the world is in a far worse place than it was before TFB came out with its World Plan. (TFB = the fucking business.) But is it? Is the world in a far worse place? Well, do we ask Ann for the answer to that question? Willytex perhaps? Or do we ask Chopra or the Dali Lama? That we choose those whom we listen to seems more powerful than whom is selected as our expert answerer. Harder to hate Ann, eh? But, yeah, hating Ann is delicious pain -- sorta like that burn you get from Big Red gum -- hate it but ya keep chewing. Here's my bottom line: Ann is put out there to draw our hate -- a massive tar baby put there to divert us -- an ever so-easy-to-hate person to target lest our hate go to those who have really harmed society like those who made actual billions as their reward for selling Fanny and Freddy -- get that? -- actual billions made by ONE SINGLE SALESPERSON -- that's a truth. Salespersons got billions for one year's worth of selling shit -- pure shit - to the smartest investors what am. Or, like those who are at the top of the food chain in any of many industries that maraud the masses by actually bribing our politicians to pay tax dollar to those who would build more: -- nukes, -- bridges to nowhere, -- pipelines
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'What are you doing here...?'
So much for conditional love! Typical male can't communicate. What are you doing here?: man asks wife at brothel Wed Jan 9, 2008 10:23am ESt WARSAW (Reuters) - A Polish man got the shock of his life when he visited a brothel and spotted his wife among the establishment' s employees. Polish tabloid Super Express said the woman had been making some extra money on the side while telling her husband she worked at a store in a nearby town. I was dumfounded. I thought I was dreaming, the husband told the newspaper on Wednesday. The couple, married for 14 years, are now divorcing, the newspaper reported. (Writing by Chris Borowski, Editing by Matthew Jones)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'MSNBC Bans Lead Raksashii'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: She is so profoundly devisive. Her critiques are almost always hate filled polemics. If a point she is making is valid, it is usually so covered in hate-shit you can't see it but can only smell the stench of hate. I wonder what she smells like in person? Oh, no, I don't think so... Don't need to know that, do I,. really... Be careful what you wish for... R.G. snip, With all the disinformation put out by the party line adherents, I would think someone who is trying to divide or separate it from what is real would be of some help at any rate. A few people do their own thinking but the majority could use some motivation. N.
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
ha-ha-- the flying expert speaks! B. supposedly flew -once- 30 years ago, and now deems the flying technique nothing more than muscular reaction and a little cheap kundalini rush. unlike your consciousness, your arrogance is unbounded. is that what you call enlightenment? lol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: Just curious, does Bevan or John ever do program in the Dome? Still curious, I'm wondering whether *anyone* has ever seen His Serene Bloatedness fly. I have to admit, I'd pay good money for a film of it. If he can get *that* butt even an inch off the foam, I'll start to believe that there's more to butt-bouncing than muscular reaction to a little cheap kundalini rush. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Secrets of Levitation Revealed!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=etSivpBHUmE
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'MSNBC Bans Lead Raksashii'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: She is so profoundly devisive. Her critiques are almost always hate filled polemics. If a point she is making is valid, it is usually so covered in hate-shit you can't see it but can only smell the stench of hate. I wonder what she smells like in person? Apparently, like cigarettes: http://smokingsides.com/asfs/C/Coulter.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Suicidal Hamas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: My father told me, that during WWI, he saw some of his fellow soldiers... Lose the will to live. One of the weapons, the nazis used, was this, 'screaming meaning', they called it... It would light up the sky all night, like a phosporous flare, and make a wistling sound, On it's way down... On the third day, of this, my father told me, some of the guys just stood up, And took a shot; they had lost the will to live. These people in Gaza, they lose the will to live. Some of them, actively prepare to die, in a religious cause... They become, and are becoming suicidal... Thoughts and dreams of suicide, attract death. This is a law of nature; what you put your attention on grows... So, this is the root of the current dileama, in the Holy Land. R.G. Is suicide bombing justified or condemned under Islam? Suicide is against Islam. Martyrdom is not. Suicide bomber is a derogatory term invented in the West to try and describe what in Islam is known as a Fedayeen or Shahid... a martyr. The point of the bomber isn't suicide. It is to kill infidels in battle. This is not just permitted by Muhammad, but encouraged with liberal promises of heavenly reward. http://tinyurl.com/2pdr66 IMO this is crazy making semantics. It's not suicide because you're not killing yourself, you're killing infidels by killing yourself, so it's martyrdom and therefore okey-dokey. WTF? Somebody explain this to me. raunchydog It's easy to explain; it's called a lie. You explained it yourself, above. There is and has been a lot of lies in this world. Lies are at the bottom of the financial collapse. Lies are at the bottom of the world's troubles... This is what we mean by: 'Change we can believe in'... 'Just tell the truth, because the truth will set you free'... R.G. What lie are you talking about? According to Islam, when you strap a bomb to yourself to kill infidels it is not suicide it is a righteous act of martyrdom deserving of a reward in heaven. By any rational measure blowing yourself up IS suicide and calling it martyrdom is a LIE. Try it sometime and if you get to frolic with 72 virgins in heaven, you can say it is your reward for martyrdom and I'll say you were just another dumb-ass terrorist committing suicide, killing yourself and innocent people. http://tinyurl.com/9d3emj
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: I know some guys who have flown for 8 hours in a day, day after day. This is consistent with what I hear from my friends in Fairfield. Shaddai, where do people do program in VC? Have you seen the elites there doing their program? When I asked the question here once about how much do Morris and Haglin meditate, someone mentioned Haglin joining in long programs.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Suicidal Hamas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: My father told me, that during WWI, he saw some of his fellow soldiers... Lose the will to live. One of the weapons, the nazis used, was this, 'screaming meaning', they called it... It would light up the sky all night, like a phosporous flare, and make a wistling sound, On it's way down... On the third day, of this, my father told me, some of the guys just stood up, And took a shot; they had lost the will to live. These people in Gaza, they lose the will to live. Some of them, actively prepare to die, in a religious cause... They become, and are becoming suicidal... Thoughts and dreams of suicide, attract death. This is a law of nature; what you put your attention on grows... So, this is the root of the current dileama, in the Holy Land. R.G. Is suicide bombing justified or condemned under Islam? Suicide is against Islam. Martyrdom is not. Suicide bomber is a derogatory term invented in the West to try and describe what in Islam is known as a Fedayeen or Shahid... a martyr. The point of the bomber isn't suicide. It is to kill infidels in battle. This is not just permitted by Muhammad, but encouraged with liberal promises of heavenly reward. http://tinyurl.com/2pdr66 IMO this is crazy making semantics. It's not suicide because you're not killing yourself, you're killing infidels by killing yourself, so it's martyrdom and therefore okey-dokey. WTF? Somebody explain this to me. raunchydog It's easy to explain; it's called a lie. You explained it yourself, above. There is and has been a lot of lies in this world. Lies are at the bottom of the financial collapse. Lies are at the bottom of the world's troubles... This is what we mean by: 'Change we can believe in'... 'Just tell the truth, because the truth will set you free'... R.G. What lie are you talking about? According to Islam, when you strap a bomb to yourself to kill infidels it is not suicide it is a righteous act of martyrdom deserving of a reward in heaven. By any rational measure blowing yourself up IS suicide and calling it martyrdom is a LIE. Try it sometime and if you get to frolic with 72 virgins in heaven, you can say it is your reward for martyrdom and I'll say you were just another dumb-ass terrorist committing suicide, killing yourself and innocent people. http://tinyurl.com/9d3emj i think turning oneself into a human bomb comes from institutionalized hopelessness and a profound sense of alienation and hatred. people are taught to do this out of a sense not so much of righteousness or religious belief, but utter hopelessness at their oppression and poverty, and hatred for those seen as their oppressors. the religious justification is nothing more than a mask. i don't have a solution, though trying to say this action is as a result of some edict in the religion of Islam is just pointing fingers, which in a roundabout way legitimizes the way those who turn themselves into human bombs have been treated. certainly turning into human bombs only hurts the cause of those seeking change, but i see the root of this as complete hopelessness vs. religious fundamentalism.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'What are you doing here...?'
On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Arhata Osho wrote: So much for conditional love! Typical male can't communicate. What are you doing here?: man asks wife at brothel Wed Jan 9, 2008 10:23am ESt WARSAW (Reuters) - A Polish man got the shock of his life when he visited a brothel and spotted his wife among the establishment' s employees. Polish tabloid Super Express said the woman had been making some extra money on the side while telling her husband she worked at a store in a nearby town. I was dumfounded. I thought I was dreaming, the husband told the newspaper on Wednesday. The couple, married for 14 years, are now divorcing, the newspaper reported. (Writing by Chris Borowski, Editing by Matthew Jones) It's OK for him to go there, but not for her to work there. Presumably he hadn't told her what he was up to either. So they were perfect for each other. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of Levitation Revealed!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes...@... wrote: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=etSivpBHUmE Scottish fakir stunt: http://tinyurl.com/7hhmls
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM, ruthsimplicity no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: I know some guys who have flown for 8 hours in a day, day after day. This is consistent with what I hear from my friends in Fairfield. Shaddai, where do people do program in VC? Have you seen the elites there doing their program? When I asked the question here once about how much do Morris and Haglin meditate, someone mentioned Haglin joining in long programs. I will inquire where people do program in VC. I know where the pandits and THMD do program. But though I now stay in VC while attending IA, I go to the Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome and Temple of Pure Knowledge. Most people I know in VC go to the domes, even Chris Johnson and his family. Dr. BM used to go to the Dome but he complained that he didn't get peace and quiet during rest period. Men were bugging him all the time. No, no one with a title above Director of Dome Security and under assistant to under assistant to under assistant to the President go to the Dome as far as I can tell. But I'm a visitor. I don't know who's who at MUM and also I'm interested in going to my spot, doing my program, exchanging a whisper or two with my fellow fliers, following the yellow sheet road. Not even our presiding sidhi administrator, Doug, do program in the Dome. Doug drives up to the Dome for intermission then leaves when the 2nd round starts in the morning. We've been down this route before. About this time last year we were talking about who goes to the Dome and who's too important to go. Look at the archives. Not going to the Dome is OK. Remember that MUM and all of VC are now considered part of super radiance. I know for a fact that there are people who are not in the Dome who are counted into the flying numbers. I am reporting this because people have asked. I'm not invested in this issue. Ego has grown since last post, more kundalini flowing, more Self and self looking back at me, more water cannot quench me nor fire burn me. So if you want to use my reporting to further your agenda here that's fine. It's encouraging that Maharishi had such an effect upon you that after all these years you still can't shake him and are drawn to these debates like moths to the flame. I can take or leave FFL and there will come times when you'll wonder whatever happened to L. Shaddai. You, however, will still be part of the great mandala.
[FairfieldLife] Ethical behavior (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgil...@... wrote: Quick comments interleaved. Please do not mistake brevity for curtness. I was equally brief, also not meaning to be curt. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity wrote: IIRC, Nidich is affiliated with the TMO and is a proponent of a cosmic level of moral development, beyond the Kohlberg states. Lots of theory here and not a lot of fact. Also, there is plenty of criticisms regarding Kohlberg and his states of moral development, which are based more on justice than compassion. I associate ethical behavior with doing what's right, which I associate with justice and fairness, not compassion. I also associate ethical behavior with doing what is right and what is right is based on a large number of factors. And sometimes it is just hard because there are competing considerations. Take some of the ten commandments which some say are universal principles. Thou shall not kill. OK, what if someone tries to kill your wife and you need to kill him to stop? Most agree on this exception. What if you are having a baby and are quite ill and may die if you go through with the pregnancy, should you abort? Less agreement here. Is it based on the probability you might die? What is the moral choice seems to be subject to legitimate disagreement with no clear answer. What if someone else is facing the dilemma? Should society dictate an answer when there is not even close to a consensus? Thou shalt not steal. What about Kohlberg's example of your wife needing a life saving drug that is not available unless you steal it. If it is morally OK to steal in that circumstance should he nevertheless be punished to discourage others from pushing the limits? But what about another answer: go beg for money to get the medicine. Stand on the street an embarrass yourself. Write letters to the editor. Call the drug company. So maybe he should be punished unless he tried everything else? Is she dying tomorrow? What are the facts? What are the circumstances? What is the husband like? What is the best he can do? Is that important? I think that one of the most important considerations in making a moral, and a just decision, is getting all the facts. From my favorite show Boston Legal: Should Denny Crane get the experimental drug even though he is not eligible for the study? He is going to die anyway. Oh, but if we allow compassionate exceptions, we will lose the ability to study to see if the experimental drug works because the dying people will want the drug whether or not it works. What is the right and just answer? The needs of the many outweigh those of the few? snip This is the nut issue here. ^ I understand the gold standard of science to be the longitudinal study, which may not be possible in this instance. But failure to live up to that standard of research does not mean all other methods are invalid, does it? Inadequate, not necessarily invalid. snip The instruction is simple and, in my day, oft repeated: Do not do that which you know to be wrong. So the question would be, in interviewing someone who did something the rest of us find morally compromised, Did you simply not know such an act was wrong? Or did you know, yet do it anyway? But how do you decide it to be wrong? I think we all try to do this but we don't always examine why we believe something is wrong or right, we don't always do a good job at putting ourselves in someone else's shoes, and we don't always get enough facts.
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM, ruthsimplicity no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal L.Shaddai@ wrote: I know some guys who have flown for 8 hours in a day, day after day. This is consistent with what I hear from my friends in Fairfield. Shaddai, where do people do program in VC? Have you seen the elites there doing their program? When I asked the question here once about how much do Morris and Haglin meditate, someone mentioned Haglin joining in long programs. I will inquire where people do program in VC. I know where the pandits and THMD do program. But though I now stay in VC while attending IA, I go to the Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome and Temple of Pure Knowledge. Most people I know in VC go to the domes, even Chris Johnson and his family. Dr. BM used to go to the Dome but he complained that he didn't get peace and quiet during rest period. Men were bugging him all the time. No, no one with a title above Director of Dome Security and under assistant to under assistant to under assistant to the President go to the Dome as far as I can tell. But I'm a visitor. I don't know who's who at MUM and also I'm interested in going to my spot, doing my program, exchanging a whisper or two with my fellow fliers, following the yellow sheet road. Not even our presiding sidhi administrator, Doug, do program in the Dome. Doug drives up to the Dome for intermission then leaves when the 2nd round starts in the morning. We've been down this route before. About this time last year we were talking about who goes to the Dome and who's too important to go. Look at the archives. Not going to the Dome is OK. Remember that MUM and all of VC are now considered part of super radiance. I know for a fact that there are people who are not in the Dome who are counted into the flying numbers. I am reporting this because people have asked. I'm not invested in this issue. Ego has grown since last post, more kundalini flowing, more Self and self looking back at me, more water cannot quench me nor fire burn me. So if you want to use my reporting to further your agenda here that's fine. It's encouraging that Maharishi had such an effect upon you that after all these years you still can't shake him and are drawn to these debates like moths to the flame. I can take or leave FFL and there will come times when you'll wonder whatever happened to L. Shaddai. You, however, will still be part of the great mandala. Please don't go. I do not mean to be an inquisitor. Your reports are interesting and you are not defensive about your experiences. What you say always rings true. I can understand why the higher ups may avoid the domes. But I cannot help but be curious as to whether they walk the walk. No way to really tell so my question was probably pointless.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of Levitation Revealed!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=etSivpBHUmE Scottish fakir stunt: http://tinyurl.com/7hhmls I would like to do an autopsy on him. (insert evil emoticon here)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What are you doing here...?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Arhata Osho wrote: So much for conditional love! Typical male can't communicate. What are you doing here?: man asks wife at brothel Wed Jan 9, 2008 10:23am ESt WARSAW (Reuters) - A Polish man got the shock of his life when he visited a brothel and spotted his wife among the establishment's employees. Polish tabloid Super Express said the woman had been making some extra money on the side while telling her husband she worked at a store in a nearby town. I was dumfounded. I thought I was dreaming, the husband told the newspaper on Wednesday. The couple, married for 14 years, are now divorcing, the newspaper reported. (Writing by Chris Borowski, Editing by Matthew Jones) It's OK for him to go there, but not for her to work there. Presumably he hadn't told her what he was up to either. So they were perfect for each other. One of the most interesting periods of my life was when I was going regularly to Amsterdam. I was there to teach meditation, and also to work on a book I was writing, but even at that point I found that I was more comfortable on my own time with the street people of Amsterdam than I was with my fellow students who had gone there to teach with me. So while they stayed home and meditated or did whatever they did, I went out to more (to me) interesting places. As it turns out, during that first period there in Amsterdam, I taught a young man to meditate and his father saw that as a kind of favor, in that the young man turned his back on heroin and got straight and wound up living a pretty happy life. I take no credit for this, and place any credit on this fellow being at the right place at the right time to take advantage of some meditation classes that were being offered for free. He found something better in meditation than he had previously found in a syringe. And that is way cool but I don't think I had that much to do with it. However, his father was inordinately grateful that I had been the person teaching the class that night, and as a result gave me free services forever at his place of business. There was usually a cover charge of 100 Euros to get in the door, so I took him up on his kind offer, several times during those first visits to Amsterdam, and for years afterwards. His place of business was called Yab Yum, and was the most famous and high-class brothel in Amsterdam. Kings and Princes and heads of state go there. The Rolling Stones used to go there to party when they were in town. And I got to go there for free. Given the little you know about me from this group, is there any poasibility that I didn't go? :-) Anyway, during none of those visits to Yab Yum did I go upstairs. I was in a committed rela- tionship at that time, and damn me...when I commit I commit. But I got to hang out at the bar with my laptop and write, and hang out with the women who worked there. They realized very quickly that I wasn't there to partake of their favors, and after a short period of time kinda treated me like their pet, or their artist in residence. I felt not unlike Henri de Toulouse- Lautrec during that period. :-) It was also a real education. And what got me thinking about it tonight was this mention of finding one's wife in a brothel and being shocked enough to find her there to later divorce her. As someone else pointed out, what was the *guy* doing there? But the fascinating thing about getting to know these women who worked at Yab Yum is that many of them were married or in committed relation- ships. Their husbands and partners knew what they did for a living, and had no problem with it. I have to tell you that, even speaking as an aging Summer Of Love Hippie, this was a new one for me. It just didn't map to anything I'd ever seen in the United States. I got to know these women, and occasionally their partners, after we got to be good enough friends to soc- ialize outside of Yab Yum, and as far as I can tell they weren't *faking* this laissez- faire attitude towards sex. It was just some- thing they had assimilated by growing up in the Netherlands. It was normal to them. Compare and contrast to the story from Poland. Not relevant to anything, really...just a memory that popped up when this subject did...
[FairfieldLife] Demo Of The Guitar Sidhi (was a great american guitarist)
Miraculous competence! http://tinyurl.com/6q6weu (Hey cardemaister, you're good on Patanjali stuff. What is it? pinky of a Paganini? articulation of a centipede? slight return of a voodoo chile?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Janet Luise janlu...@... wrote: And then for those hillbillies on the list . also a Great American Guitarist! Just listen to those chickens! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndiMnwz5XjA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Not for Hillbillies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVaotTRHExE
[FairfieldLife] Re: Demo Of The Guitar Sidhi (was a great american guitarist)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: Miraculous competence! http://tinyurl.com/6q6weu Marvelous. And the fascinating thing is that it's not a homage to Jimi. He first heard the song from Stevie Ray Vaughn, and developed this solo as a tribute to him. Here's a guitarist I ran into on the streets of Amsterdam, playing the same song. Carlos Vamos and his tapping style topped me in my tracks. Still does. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwm-vxGgFf4
[FairfieldLife] Re: Demo Of The Guitar Sidhi (was a great american guitarist)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: Miraculous competence! http://tinyurl.com/6q6weu Marvelous. And the fascinating thing is that it's not a homage to Jimi. He first heard the song from Stevie Ray Vaughn, and developed this solo as a tribute to him. Here's a guitarist I ran into on the streets of Amsterdam, playing the same song. Carlos Vamos and his tapping style topped me in my tracks. Still does. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwm-vxGgFf4 Funnily enough I had just caught that by surfing on the related links on the right of the screen. Unbelievable. If anything he feels the force even stronger. I find it interesting that folks can go so far by being one-pointed to such an extreme degree. Zen the Art of dah-di-dah and all that. The spirit of Jimi has me in a grip I must confess - although he wasn't such a technician as these guys. Robert Fripp (he of King Crimson) cites Jimi as an example of pure embodiment of the spirit of music. The intensity of the musical current flowing through Hendrix is what killed him in the end, according to Fripp. Hendrix's guitar technique itself, however, 'was inefficient and, as an example, misled many young guitarists.'
[FairfieldLife] Re: Demo Of The Guitar Sidhi (was a great american guitarist)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: Miraculous competence! http://tinyurl.com/6q6weu Marvelous. And the fascinating thing is that it's not a homage to Jimi. He first heard the song from Stevie Ray Vaughn, and developed this solo as a tribute to him. Here's a guitarist I ran into on the streets of Amsterdam, playing the same song. Carlos Vamos and his tapping style topped me in my tracks. Still does. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwm-vxGgFf4 Funnily enough I had just caught that by surfing on the related links on the right of the screen. Unbelievable. If anything he feels the force even stronger. Carlos is pretty amazing. When he records, jazz greats like Stanley Jordan and others come to play with him, but most of the time he just lives quietly in Amsterdam, playing on the streets and teaching his rather unique style and building custom guitars. Neat guy. I love the subtlety of his style, and Jimi would have, too. I find it interesting that folks can go so far by being one-pointed to such an extreme degree. Zen the Art of dah-di-dah and all that. The spirit of Jimi has me in a grip I must confess - although he wasn't such a technician as these guys. I got to see him live a number of times, and I disagree. Why Little Wing is such a showcase piece is because it invites subtlety. Most fam- ous guitarists don't have much of it. Jimi did. He was at his best when playing slow, like on this piece. I've been a guitar freak all my life. I've also been fortunate enough to see the some of the best, live. Jimi was right up there with Segovia in my opinion. He had a degree of control that was breathtaking. Robert Fripp (he of King Crimson) cites Jimi as an example of pure embodiment of the spirit of music. The intensity of the musical current flowing through Hendrix is what killed him in the end, according to Fripp. Hendrix's guitar technique itself, however, 'was inefficient and, as an example, misled many young guitarists.' Again, I must disagree. They just listened to the wrong songs, and tried to emulate the flash. Jimi made his money from the flash, but that wasn't what he was about. If he had lived, IMO he would have ended up playing with Miles, and fitting right in.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, ruthsimplicity no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Please don't go. I do not mean to be an inquisitor. Your reports are interesting and you are not defensive about your experiences. What you say always rings true. I can understand why the higher ups may avoid the domes. But I cannot help but be curious as to whether they walk the walk. No way to really tell so my question was probably pointless. Ruth, I concur with your conclusion. There's no way to know whether or not the higher ups walk the walk. All I do know is that Dr. BM and Dr. Hag did take a month of PK last year by orders of Maharishi. I suspect that the higher ups see their service to Maharishi and the TMO as a sadhana and perhaps don't even regularly do TM. Maharishi did make some hints last year that perhaps even doing TM on a regular basis is no longer necessary. As far as leaving and your being an inquisitor. I apologize that you did not quite understand my statements. FFL is a very adult play pen where rough housing is part of it all. I've noticed that indeed the world is as we are. Love flows through me constantly, I look out and see the love that flows through me. When I post to FFL the love is flowing through me and either I'm too inebriated with love and can't perceive being jabbed or people just decide not to harrass me. Whatever. Doesn't matter. Let's all laugh on. I am quite serious that my ego expands each day. I'm quite serious that I feel more each day that water cannot quench me nor fire burn me. So I can't be driven from FFL because of questions and statements directed at me, privately or publicly. Publiclly I've been offered help in dealing with the kundalini experiences by someone who sees the experiences as pathological or at the very least things are out of kilter, rather than the way I feel the experiences, as a gift, a reward from God. As the ultimate arcade, on the par with that wonderful aash (pita bread) I get right out of the oven in the Middle East. I appreciate the care and concern people have in wanting to help me find a cure for my malady. HAHAHAHA. So when and if I drop out of sight it won't be because I've been driven away. It'll be because I've moved on to even more rewarding things than the wonderfulness of FFL and the fabulous souls which frequent the forum. When I spoke of the attraction so many people have for Maharishi both in the antagonistic and in the loving and thankful sense, I was directing that at the entire group. Let the antogonistic ones have their say. The more they move and act, the more they stir the bliss. But also the more they proclaim that they are part and parcel of the great mandala. There appear to be some who are enslaved to Maharishi and his messages. But that's OK. They are delights and wonders. Let them grow, prosper and experience the infinite delight.
[FairfieldLife] Gran Torino
Last week when I went to see Milk I noted that Century theaters had lowered their senior age from 65 to 62. Not only that they have Senior Mondays where the evening shows are $6 for seniors (that's a $1.25 off the usual senior price). So being an old fart myself having recently turned 62 I decided last night to see a movie about an old fart, Clint Eastwood's Gran Torino at the Century theater in nearby yuppieville Walnut Creek which is the only theater in the area showing it. The theater did a reasonable Monday night business although the majority was not senior citizens and arriving 15 minutes early was ample time to get the best seat in the house because the show was in a large auditorium. The film about a tough but elderly man whose wife recently passed away and whose kids are trying to get him to move into a retirement home who has new neighbors who are Vietnamese. In fact most of the neighborhood is being taken over by Asians. He doesn't understand and disdain's his new neighbors. But eventually because of rescuing the kid next door from an Asian gang gains the respect of his neighbors and strikes up a relationship them. In a way this film has the elements of a feel good movie of the year but it has its dark and brutal moments. But it is well worth a look see. I don't know if Eastwood announced that this was the last film he was going to star in but the critics keep saying it will the last one he is in. We'll see, because for some reason 78 doesn't seem that old to me anymore. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Give Bush a parting salute on Inauguration Day
Join in on giving Bush a parting salute! http://fingersalutetobush.org/
[FairfieldLife] Dome vs. home (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal l.shad...@... wrote: So when and if I drop out of sight it won't be because I've been driven away. It'll be because I've moved on to even more rewarding things than the wonderfulness of FFL and the fabulous souls which frequent the forum. When I spoke of the attraction so many people have for Maharishi both in the antagonistic and in the loving and thankful sense, I was directing that at the entire group. Let the antogonistic ones have their say. The more they move and act, the more they stir the bliss. But also the more they proclaim that they are part and parcel of the great mandala. There appear to be some who are enslaved to Maharishi and his messages. But that's OK. They are delights and wonders. Let them grow, prosper and experience the infinite delight. OK, I understand better what you were saying.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gran Torino
Is this another one of those movies in which the mild-mannered hero is stirred to vanquish bad guys who are taking advantage of the meek?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Gran Torino
--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [FairfieldLife] Gran Torino To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 2:37 PM Last week when I went to see Milk I noted that Century theaters had lowered their senior age from 65 to 62. Not only that they have Senior Mondays where the evening shows are $6 for seniors (that's a $1.25 off the usual senior price). So being an old fart myself having recently turned 62 I decided last night to see a movie about an old fart, Clint Eastwood's Gran Torino at the Century theater in nearby yuppieville Walnut Creek which is the only theater in the area showing it. The theater did a reasonable Monday night business although the majority was not senior citizens and arriving 15 minutes early was ample time to get the best seat in the house because the show was in a large auditorium. The film about a tough but elderly man whose wife recently passed away and whose kids are trying to get him to move into a retirement home who has new neighbors who are Vietnamese. In fact most of the neighborhood is being taken over by Asians. He doesn't understand and disdain's his new neighbors. But eventually because of rescuing the kid next door from an Asian gang gains the respect of his neighbors and strikes up a relationship them. In a way this film has the elements of a feel good movie of the year but it has its dark and brutal moments. But it is well worth a look see. I don't know if Eastwood announced that this was the last film he was going to star in but the critics keep saying it will the last one he is in. We'll see, because for some reason 78 doesn't seem that old to me anymore. ;-) Good film. Wonderful, moving ending that, to be honest, I didn't expect, but made all the sense in the world. Some of the secondary plots I thought were silly and didn't work for me. Like trying to teach the boy to speak like a man. Too much like slapstick. But overall, a very good movie about a bitter old man who transcends his limits and shows us what really beats in the heart of an old warrior. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Aryan migration into India
PBS' Michael Woods traced the origins of the Aryan migration into India to Turkmenistan, with the assistance of various scholars and indigenous experts. He cleverly picked up the pieces of circumstantial evidence (reminding me of the Reeces Pieces episode in ET); by first getting to the Afghan/Pakistan border, and then farther North into Turkmenistan. For example, in Pakistan; he found some herbalists who regular make SOM tea. In Turkmenistan, he met with a Russian archaeologist excavating a site with artifacts similar to items mentioned in the Rig Veda. http://www.pbs.org then click onto the Story of India http://www.pbs.org/thestoryofindia/gallery/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Suicidal Hamas'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: My father told me, that during WWI, he saw some of his fellow soldiers... Lose the will to live. One of the weapons, the nazis used, was this, 'screaming meaning', they called it... It would light up the sky all night, like a phosporous flare, and make a wistling sound, On it's way down... On the third day, of this, my father told me, some of the guys just stood up, And took a shot; they had lost the will to live. These people in Gaza, they lose the will to live. Some of them, actively prepare to die, in a religious cause... They become, and are becoming suicidal... Thoughts and dreams of suicide, attract death. This is a law of nature; what you put your attention on grows... So, this is the root of the current dileama, in the Holy Land. R.G. Is suicide bombing justified or condemned under Islam? Suicide is against Islam. Martyrdom is not. Suicide bomber is a derogatory term invented in the West to try and describe what in Islam is known as a Fedayeen or Shahid... a martyr. The point of the bomber isn't suicide. It is to kill infidels in battle. This is not just permitted by Muhammad, but encouraged with liberal promises of heavenly reward. http://tinyurl.com/2pdr66 IMO this is crazy making semantics. It's not suicide because you're not killing yourself, you're killing infidels by killing yourself, so it's martyrdom and therefore okey-dokey. WTF? Somebody explain this to me. raunchydog It's easy to explain; it's called a lie. You explained it yourself, above. There is and has been a lot of lies in this world. Lies are at the bottom of the financial collapse. Lies are at the bottom of the world's troubles... This is what we mean by: 'Change we can believe in'... 'Just tell the truth, because the truth will set you free'... R.G. What lie are you talking about? According to Islam, when you strap a bomb to yourself to kill infidels it is not suicide it is a righteous act of martyrdom deserving of a reward in heaven. By any rational measure blowing yourself up IS suicide and calling it martyrdom is a LIE. Try it sometime and if you get to frolic with 72 virgins in heaven, you can say it is your reward for martyrdom and I'll say you were just another dumb-ass terrorist committing suicide, killing yourself and innocent people. http://tinyurl.com/9d3emj The lie, of the 'Suicide Devil' is this: He says, go ahead and kill yourself; it will be good; this life is too painful and meaningless...go ahead and kill yourself... This is what I saw on the TV machine, of Mr.bin Laden... Whether or not, that was an authentic tape, of the 9/11 attack, is up or debate... But, what he said, and his attitude was interesting... You remember, the DOD, said that they had discovered a tape, of a meeting between bin Laden, and some friends of his in Afghanistan... He was laughing, saying, 'Those guys didn't even know what the mission was, until the last minute... The only one who knew was Mohammad Atta...the rest were just innocently following orders... You see, Mr.bin Laden, isn't suicidal...he has lot's of money and lot's of power...those types of people don't take to the 'Suicide Demon, but more than likely, they like to speak with the 'Murderous One', who also controls the suicidal one. These are lieing voices, or 'Off-kilter vibrations of confusion and disturbance... It is not the voice of Truth. The voice of Truth Speaks of Love and peace and forgiveness. The other voice is not of Truth but it's opposite.. R.G.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Distractions
Back in the day, Maharishi wanted MIU graduates to be given a printout that showed their progress toward enlightenment. The idea was to run a baseline measurement upon entering the University to compare to a final assessment upon graduation. Apparently they ran into some problems with that idea - as with most of MMY's ideas, huh? If the school were more ecumenical, they could be a center for such research, teaming up with Buddhists and others interested in determining markers of awakening. That would have been kinda cool. From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: Patrick Gillam jpgil...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2009 10:45:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Distractions On Jan 5, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: I'm with Hugo on this one. I thought it was Maharishi University's job to determine the physiological parameters of higher states of consciousness. And of course you're exactly right, that was one of the good things about MMY: opening up the field of meditation research by acknowledging these realities. We all have physical bodies last time I checked! The Two Truths, the relative and absolute, arise simultaneously and inseparably, so anyone trying to claim they're somehow beyond confirmation via some absolutist criteria should immediately be considered suspect. And the same goes with all the traditional criteria: they're there for a reason, and MMY did authentically enumerate some of them. It's interesting to me how offended the enlightened are when this is mentioned. I've seen a number of people be tested, myself included and it was extremely helpful for not falling into self-delusion and self-deception.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gran Torino
--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Patrick Gillam jpgil...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Patrick Gillam jpgil...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gran Torino To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 3:51 PM Is this another one of those movies in which the mild-mannered hero is stirred to vanquish bad guys who are taking advantage of the meek? Yes and no. A bitter old man with a shrunken, guilt-ridden heart is reluctantly drawn into a world of gang violence and predation to protect the innocent. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] 'German Billionaire Chooses to End Life'
Facing Losses, German Billionaire Takes Own Life function getSharePasskey() { return 'ex=1388984400en=1558d4c83eab4a65ei=5124';} function getShareURL() { return encodeURIComponent('http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/business/worldbusiness/07merckle.html'); } function getShareHeadline() { return encodeURIComponent('Facing Losses, German Billionaire Takes Own Life'); } function getShareDescription() { return encodeURIComponent('Adolf Merckle’s speculation in volatile Volkswagen shares pushed his sprawling business empire to the edge of ruin.'); } function getShareKeywords() { return encodeURIComponent('Suicides and Suicide Attempts,Volkswagen AG,Adolf Merckle'); } function getShareSection() { return encodeURIComponent('business'); } function getShareSectionDisplay() { return encodeURIComponent('Business / World Business'); } function getShareSubSection() { return encodeURIComponent('worldbusiness'); } function getShareByline() { return encodeURIComponent('By CARTER DOUGHERTY'); } function getSharePubdate() { return encodeURIComponent('January 7, 2009'); } By CARTER DOUGHERTY Published: January 6, 2009 FRANKFURT — Adolf Merckle, the German billionaire whose speculation in volatile Volkswagen stock had pushed his sprawling business empire to the edge of ruin, has committed suicide, his family said Tuesday. Reuters Adolf Merckle, 74, was ranked as the world's 94th richest person in 2008, according to Forbes magazine. Mr. Merckle, 74, was found dead on railroad tracks near his villa in the southern German hamlet of Blaubeuren on Monday evening. German authorities in the nearby city of Ulm confirmed the death, saying there was no sign anyone else was involved. “The distress to his firms caused by the financial crisis and the related uncertainties of recent weeks, along with the helplessness of no longer being able to handle the situation, broke the passionate family businessman, and he ended his life,” the family said in a statement.Police said a suicide note had been found; its contents were not publicly released. More than any other single investment, Mr. Merckle’s poorly timed bet on Volkswagen shares caused the financial distress that led to his death. Last fall, Mr. Merckle lost hundreds of millions of euros when he was caught in a brief but ferocious speculative riptide linked to a campaign by Porsche, the sports car manufacturer, to seize control of Volkswagen. He was facing the dismantling of his empire and the sale of major holdings at the time of his death. Porsche announced late Monday — around the time Mr. Merckle was taking his own life — that it had acquired slightly over 50 percent of Volkswagen shares, up from a 42.6 percent voting stake in October. Porsche has said it planned to buy 75 percent of Volkswagen during the course of the year, as it seeks more operating control of Europe’s biggest carmaker.A native of Dresden who made his way to western Germany after World War II, Mr. Merckle parlayed a family business in chemicals into one of the biggest pharmaceutical concerns in the world. Ratiopharm, a maker of generic medicines that nonetheless became a recognized brand itself, became the pride of the family. Other businesses included Phoenix, a pharmaceutical wholesaler; and HeidelbergCement, a building materials supplier that in 2007 acquired a British rival, Hanson, to become a leading global player. Forbes estimated Mr. Merckle’s fortune at $9.2 billion in 2008, making him No. 94 on its list of the world’s richest. The financial crisis began taking its toll on HeidelbergCement last year as the debt incurred to buy Hanson became more burdensome.Standard Poor’s lowered the company’s credit rating as liquidity became scarce as a result of global market convulsions.In November, it emerged that Mr. Merckle had lost an amount of money in the “low hundreds of millions” by wagering that shares in Volkswagen would fall, a financial transaction known as short-selling. The bet had put him up squarely against a positively world-famous family, the Porsches. The sports car manufacturer from nearby Stuttgart was in the process of taking over Volkswagen. On Oct. 26, Porsche announced it had secured stock and options equivalent to about 75 percent of Volkswagen shares. Short sellers, who borrow shares and sell them, hoping to buy them back later at a lower cost, were caught in a bind, since the revelation implied a shortage of VW shares to “cover” the short-selling. Furious demand caused VW shares to skyrocket to just over 1,000 euros, or $1,260, from 210 euros in two trading sessions. That briefly made the automaker the world’s most valuable company by market capitalization.Porsche subsequently sold some of its VW shares to ease the tensions in the market, but not before the episode upset the weightings in Germany’s benchmark DAX index and injuring the country’s
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Ann Coulter harm our culture more than, say, Hamas Leader Khaled Mashaal?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Although in this world of extremes there's literally millions of folks who are far more sold out to expressing negativity-that-calls-for-an-immediate-criminal-acting-out-of-rage than her, Ann Coulter's access to millions of minds via national media raises the question: Is Ann's influence merely superficially exciting negativity patterns in the minds of resonant listeners and, as such, jiggy-with-Ann-ness but another way for the masses to be mentally entertained such as when viewing, say, a slasher movie, or is she, more profoundly harming our culture by building/changing/harming minds by inculcating her brand of hate into those who (at present) merely have a slight tendency towards such negativity? If I ask: Really now, Edg, if Ann had never had access, and if FuxNoise had never found someone like her to plug into their programming, would America be measurably better off today?, then I have to admit, I would be very surprised if any measurement possible by today's analysis tools could pick up on even a slight influence by Ann. If that's so, why am I so vulnerable to her? Why do I give her so much immediate attention and space in my holy mind? Why can she trigger my anger processes into full alert so effortlessly when her true potency is no more harmful (per person) to society -- measurably -- than, say, a barking dog's harm when it excites negativity at 3 in the morning? To be silly, how many barking dog's worth of stress would it take to equal an Ann Coulter five-minute, KKK tirade on Fox? Am I really that intuitive that I KNOW she's harmful, or is she just an easy target, and, gadzooks, it is I -- not her -- who is really the holder-of-hate for the manifestation of which she's being set-up to take the fall when actually almost any reason will do me if I want to get myself high by hating? If we look at the concept of Maharishi's (hypocritical) stance that we should not rail on the heads of leaders, because they're just innocent expressions of the group consciousness of society, then Ann's presence merely shamefully proves our society's level of angst, and if not her, then someone or somemany will have gravitated to her position and have done whatever she didn't do; so Ann's really and actually only filling a slot and not deeply harming culture with any potency, but rather self-harming is an emergent property of our society's dissonance. (Hypocritical: George Bush is Satan. or England is a bad country. -- if that's not railing on innocents, I'd like to know what is.) I've had my own personal enemies who have coldly and cruelly trampled my best laid schemes and -- seemingly only -- been the causative agents in my gang aft agley experiences. It would be easy to justify virtually any manner of pay-back upon many of them -- except for that nasty fact of life: I am a free mind who involved myself with them, let them get under my radar, gave them access to me, and denied any and all intuitions about them, until, finally, they squished me into a writhing goo under their feet like a wad of gum on a hot sidewalk. How does one OWN one's participation in all the world's negativity? We thought we could escape causality by transcending the problems that we were a part of, right? That was the theory, right? But while the TFB is still telling the TBs that today's front-burner problems are merely that final roiling of Helium just before it enters perfect coherence when it's near absolute zero, and to expect that the Maharishi Effect will suddenly phase transition our society into peace any moment now that Maharishi's spiritual powers have increased a thousandfold now that he and Guru Dev are tag-teaming the earth with sacred intent, meanwhile, every ex-TB knows that the world is in a far worse place than it was before TFB came out with its World Plan. (TFB = the fucking business.) But is it? Is the world in a far worse place? Well, do we ask Ann for the answer to that question? Willytex perhaps? Or do we ask Chopra or the Dali Lama? That we choose those whom we listen to seems more powerful than whom is selected as our expert answerer. Harder to hate Ann, eh? But, yeah, hating Ann is delicious pain -- sorta like that burn you get from Big Red gum -- hate it but ya keep chewing. Here's my bottom line: Ann is put out there to draw our hate -- a massive tar baby put there to divert us -- an ever so-easy-to-hate person to target lest our hate go to those who have really harmed society like those who made actual billions as their reward for selling Fanny and Freddy -- get that? -- actual billions made by ONE SINGLE SALESPERSON -- that's a truth. Salespersons got billions for one year's worth of selling shit -- pure shit - to the smartest investors what am. Or, like those who are at the top of the food
[FairfieldLife] Myth of the Relaxation Response
From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:10 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Myth of the Relaxation Response Dear Colleagues, I have just posted Myth http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/Research/ComparisonofTechniques/Relaxatio nResponse/index.cfm of the Relaxation Response, a paper I wrote some time ago, under the section on Comparison of Techniques. A link to it and the Abstract appear below. It documents that all techniques do not have the same acute or long term effects, but rather have effects that are tailored to what the specific techniques do. I plan to update it and send it to a journal, but since so many people ask me about this, I decided to post what I have for now. I also posted the new paper by Sarina Grosswald and colleagues on the http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/ResultsforEducation/TMa ndADHD/index.cfm effects of the TM program on ADHD. Issue: Are all techniques of relaxation and meditation the same? The http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/Research/ComparisonofTechniques/Relaxatio nResponse/index.cfm Myth of the Relaxation Response by David Orme-Johnson, Ph.D. Abstract Although relaxation and meditation techniques have been hypothesized to produce the so-called relaxation response, a review of the literature finds that the acute physiological changes that occur during most techniques are not significantly different from uninstructed rest, sitting eyes closed. Compared to rest, some techniques produce specific acute changes resulting from their specific methodologies, such as reduced muscle tension in muscle relaxation techniques, reduced respiration according to the well known orienting response in techniques that require focused attention, and reflexive entrainment of the heart rate with the breath for techniques that control respiration. The relaxation response was originally modeled on the changes produced by the Transcendental MeditationR (TMR) technique, but some changes that occur during TM, such as increased cardiac output, skin conductance, and plasma adrenaline, are in the opposite direction of the relaxation response, and many other changes, such as increased cerebral blood flow and EEG coherence, are unpredicted by the relaxation response. With regard to clinical outcomes, randomized clinical trials that controlled for expectation, placebo, and other design features, as well as meta-analyses and reviews of over 790 studies, provide strong evidence that different techniques are not equivalent and they have specific effects. For example, it appears that muscular disorders are best treated with muscularly oriented methods, while autonomic dysfunction such as hypertension and migraine headaches are more effectively treated with techniques that target the autonomic nervous system. The Transcendental Meditation technique appears to be the most effective treatment overall for a broad range of stress-related disorders, including hypertension, anxiety, substance abuse, and mental health. David W. Orme-Johnson,Ph.D. mailto:davi...@earthlink.net davi...@earthlink.net http://www.truthabouttm.com/ www.TruthAboutTM.com www.Orme-JohnsonPaintings.com/ 191 Dalton Dr. Seagrove Beach, FL 32459 850-231-2866 850-231-5012 Fax
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Ann Coulter harm our culture more than, say, Hamas Leader Khaled Mashaal?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Although in this world of extremes there's literally millions of folks who are far more sold out to expressing negativity-that-calls-for-an-immediate-criminal-acting-out-of-rage than her, Ann Coulter's access to millions of minds via national media raises the question: Is Ann's influence merely superficially exciting negativity patterns in the minds of resonant listeners and, as such, jiggy-with-Ann-ness but another way for the masses to be mentally entertained such as when viewing, say, a slasher movie, or is she, more profoundly harming our culture by building/changing/harming minds by inculcating her brand of hate into those who (at present) merely have a slight tendency towards such negativity? If I ask: Really now, Edg, if Ann had never had access, and if FuxNoise had never found someone like her to plug into their programming, would America be measurably better off today?, then I have to admit, I would be very surprised if any measurement possible by today's analysis tools could pick up on even a slight influence by Ann. If that's so, why am I so vulnerable to her? Why do I give her so much immediate attention and space in my holy mind? Why can she trigger my anger processes into full alert so effortlessly when her true potency is no more harmful (per person) to society -- measurably -- than, say, a barking dog's harm when it excites negativity at 3 in the morning? To be silly, how many barking dog's worth of stress would it take to equal an Ann Coulter five-minute, KKK tirade on Fox? Am I really that intuitive that I KNOW she's harmful, or is she just an easy target, and, gadzooks, it is I -- not her -- who is really the holder-of-hate for the manifestation of which she's being set-up to take the fall when actually almost any reason will do me if I want to get myself high by hating? If we look at the concept of Maharishi's (hypocritical) stance that we should not rail on the heads of leaders, because they're just innocent expressions of the group consciousness of society, then Ann's presence merely shamefully proves our society's level of angst, and if not her, then someone or somemany will have gravitated to her position and have done whatever she didn't do; so Ann's really and actually only filling a slot and not deeply harming culture with any potency, but rather self-harming is an emergent property of our society's dissonance. (Hypocritical: George Bush is Satan. or England is a bad country. -- if that's not railing on innocents, I'd like to know what is.) I've had my own personal enemies who have coldly and cruelly trampled my best laid schemes and -- seemingly only -- been the causative agents in my gang aft agley experiences. It would be easy to justify virtually any manner of pay-back upon many of them -- except for that nasty fact of life: I am a free mind who involved myself with them, let them get under my radar, gave them access to me, and denied any and all intuitions about them, until, finally, they squished me into a writhing goo under their feet like a wad of gum on a hot sidewalk. How does one OWN one's participation in all the world's negativity? We thought we could escape causality by transcending the problems that we were a part of, right? That was the theory, right? But while the TFB is still telling the TBs that today's front-burner problems are merely that final roiling of Helium just before it enters perfect coherence when it's near absolute zero, and to expect that the Maharishi Effect will suddenly phase transition our society into peace any moment now that Maharishi's spiritual powers have increased a thousandfold now that he and Guru Dev are tag-teaming the earth with sacred intent, meanwhile, every ex-TB knows that the world is in a far worse place than it was before TFB came out with its World Plan. (TFB = the fucking business.) But is it? Is the world in a far worse place? Well, do we ask Ann for the answer to that question? Willytex perhaps? Or do we ask Chopra or the Dali Lama? That we choose those whom we listen to seems more powerful than whom is selected as our expert answerer. Harder to hate Ann, eh? But, yeah, hating Ann is delicious pain -- sorta like that burn you get from Big Red gum -- hate it but ya keep chewing. Here's my bottom line: Ann is put out there to draw our hate -- a massive tar baby put there to divert us -- an ever so-easy-to-hate person to target lest our hate go to those who have really harmed society like those who made actual billions as their reward for selling Fanny and Freddy -- get that? -- actual billions made by ONE SINGLE SALESPERSON -- that's a truth. Salespersons got billions for one year's worth of selling shit -- pure shit - to the smartest investors what am. Or, like those who are at the top of the food chain in any of many industries that maraud the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does Ann Coulter harm our culture more than, say, Hamas Leader Khaled Mashaal?
But is it? Is the world in a far worse place? Well, do we ask Ann for the answer to that question? Willytex perhaps?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Myth of the Relaxation Response
regardless of all the scientific mumbo jumbo, wasn't the mantra for the relaxation response, the word 'one'? illustrates the insight into meditation a medical degree will get you... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:10 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Myth of the Relaxation Response
Re: [FairfieldLife] Myth of the Relaxation Response
On Jan 6, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:10 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Myth of the Relaxation Response Dear Colleagues... (snore...) You know, I really wonder what crime DOJ committed in his last life, that he has to spend so much time in this one apologizing for TM, and rationalizing why so many quit. Must have been a doozy. Maybe he was the one who offed GD. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva
boo wrote: To sum up Willy's wisdom today: There are no mantras used in TM. There are certain mantras used in TM. There are no multi-word mantras used in TM. There are certain multi-word mantras used in advanced TM. Now I'm so confused, I'm going to make up some BS about Buddhism. Only 'bija' mantras are used in TM, plus a few Sanskrit words for fertilizer, such as 'namah', which in Sanskrit means 'I bow down'. 'Om' is a nonsense syllable. You get only one single 'bija' mantra in TM. Read more: http://www.minet.org/mantras.html You can twist the words around from now till Doomsday, and it won't change the fact that in TM you get only ONE mantra--the one you're given when you first learn to meditate. What you're calling additional mantras are not mantras. That's why they're called advanced techniques and not additional mantras. Bottom line: The TM mantras do not have semantic meanings. They're semantically meaningless sounds. Read more: Forum: Yahoo! TM Controversy Author: Judy Stein Date: Wed Jul 31, 2002 10:06 pm Subject: Re: Maharishi's TM mantras http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TMControversy/message/1046 SHRI (added mantra, meaning, Oh most beautiful) AING (original mantra, meaning, Hindu goddess Saraswati) NAMAH (added mantra, meaning, I bow down) SHRI AING NAMAH = Oh most beautiful goddess Saraswati, I bow down. Read more: Forum: Yahoo! TM Controversy Author: John Manning Date: Fri Aug 2, 2002 5:42 pm Subject: Re: Quote from Maharishi http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TMControversy/message/1053
[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva
Bhairitu wrote: Because the longer mantras and siddhi mantras are very powerful having been passed down by an age old tradition. For what purpose would I be wanting a long nonsense syllable, enlivened or not? It is a fraud that overtly and covertly attempts to replace God-given human dignity and spiritual meaningfulness with a 'technique'. And it has come to the point where there are those who claim this 'grand gift' are just as spiritually corrupt as anyone else. The evidence of this is way beyond overwhelming for me. Read more: Forum: Yahoo! TM Controversy Author: John Manning Date: Sun Jul 28, 2002 1:13 am Subject: Maharishi's TM mantras http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TMControversy/message/1022
[FairfieldLife] Re: Myth of the Relaxation Response
Sal Sunshine wrote: You know, I really wonder what crime DOJ committed in his last life, that he has to spend so much time in this one apologizing for TM, and rationalizing why so many quit. Must have been a doozy. Maybe he was the one who offed GD. He is Mara I tell you. Get out fast like the house is on fire. Before it's too late! - Kirk Bernhardt MIU Class of '87 Read more: From: John Manning Subject: Big Brother TM Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 2002-02-02 17:54:40 PST http://tinyurl.com/9pstun
[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva
---Longer mantras (e.g. the Great Compansion Mantra of Kwan Yin, the Surangama Sutra mantra,...etc) ime, are more suitable for chanting; and creating certain effects in relative existence. That's one side of the coin in regard to the long mantras. The chanting of Sutras is a standard Buddhist practice. Similarly, in Hinduism, the chanting of the 1000 Names of one's favorite Deity is a common practice; in which the 1000 Names can be considered one lengthy mantra. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Because the longer mantras and siddhi mantras are very powerful having been passed down by an age old tradition. For what purpose would I be wanting a long nonsense syllable, enlivened or not? It is a fraud that overtly and covertly attempts to replace God-given human dignity and spiritual meaningfulness with a 'technique'. And it has come to the point where there are those who claim this 'grand gift' are just as spiritually corrupt as anyone else. The evidence of this is way beyond overwhelming for me. Read more: Forum: Yahoo! TM Controversy Author: John Manning Date: Sun Jul 28, 2002 1:13 am Subject: Maharishi's TM mantras http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TMControversy/message/1022
Re: [FairfieldLife] Myth of the Relaxation Response
Thirty-two students were in middle school grades, and 11 of these were diagnosed with ADHD. A randomized controlled study would have only 5-6 subjects in each group. Since this was an exploratory study, we chose to use a pretest-post test design with a single cohort. The subjects served as their own controls. Also known as a bullshit, oh excuse me, an exploratory study that does not demonstrate that TM reduces symptoms of ADHD. What the hell is wrong with you, David? Seriously, are you ignorant about research design or are you trying to fool people who know little about research? Again, with no control group you demonstrate nothing other than symptoms of ADHD were reduced, but you do not isolate the causal variable without a frigging control group. Rus wonder why people don't take TM research seriously. Well, here's a clear example of bullshit research that's touted as good research. Its crap research. --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Myth of the Relaxation Response To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 5:18 PM From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:10 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Myth of the Relaxation Response Dear Colleagues, I have just posted Myth of the Relaxation Response, a paper I wrote some time ago, under the section on Comparison of Techniques. A link to it and the Abstract appear below. It documents that all techniques do not have the same acute or long term effects, but rather have effects that are tailored to what the specific techniques do. I plan to update it and send it to a journal, but since so many people ask me about this, I decided to post what I have for now. I also posted the new paper by Sarina Grosswald and colleagues on the effects of the TM program on ADHD. Issue: Are all techniques of relaxation and meditation the same? The Myth of the Relaxation Response by David Orme-Johnson, Ph.D. Abstract Although relaxation and meditation techniques have been hypothesized to produce the so-called relaxation response, a review of the literature finds that the acute physiological changes that occur during most techniques are not significantly different from uninstructed rest, sitting eyes closed. Compared to rest, some techniques produce specific acute changes resulting from their specific methodologies, such as reduced muscle tension in muscle relaxation techniques, reduced respiration according to the well known orienting response in techniques that require focused attention, and reflexive entrainment of the heart rate with the breath for techniques that control respiration. The relaxation response was originally modeled on the changes produced by the Transcendental Meditation® (TM®) technique, but some changes that occur during TM, such as increased cardiac output, skin conductance, and plasma adrenaline, are in the opposite direction of the relaxation response, and many other changes, such as increased cerebral blood flow and EEG coherence, are unpredicted by the relaxation response. With regard to clinical outcomes, randomized clinical trials that controlled for expectation, placebo, and other design features, as well as meta-analyses and reviews of over 790 studies, provide strong evidence that different techniques are not equivalent and they have specific effects. For example, it appears that muscular disorders are best treated with muscularly oriented methods, while autonomic dysfunction such as hypertension and migraine headaches are more effectively treated with techniques that target the autonomic nervous system. The Transcendental Meditation technique appears to be the most effective treatment overall for a broad range of stress-related disorders, including hypertension, anxiety, substance abuse, and mental health. David W. Orme-Johnson,Ph.D. davi...@earthlink.net www.TruthAboutTM.com www.Orme-JohnsonPaintings.com/ 191 Dalton Dr . Seagrove Beach , FL 32459 850-231-2866 850-231-5012 Fax
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Ann Coulter harm our culture more than, say, Hamas Leader Khaled Mashaal?
don't listen to her much, so not sure what to think. does anyone have a background on her, as if perhaps she has some unresolved issues that come through like Rosie. yet Rosie can be right on too and many think her negative. Negative sounding people often say truth too that others think is 'politically incorrect'. And, what if Coulter is 'well balanced' and still the same - would be interesting Arhata --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Duveyoung no_re...@.. . wrote: Although in this world of extremes there's literally millions of folks who are far more sold out to expressing negativity-that- calls-for- an-immediate- criminal- acting-out- of-rage than her, Ann Coulter's access to millions of minds via national media raises the question: Is Ann's influence merely superficially exciting negativity patterns in the minds of resonant listeners and, as such, jiggy-with-Ann- ness but another way for the masses to be mentally entertained such as when viewing, say, a slasher movie, or is she, more profoundly harming our culture by building/changing/ harming minds by inculcating her brand of hate into those who (at present) merely have a slight tendency towards such negativity? If I ask: Really now, Edg, if Ann had never had access, and if FuxNoise had never found someone like her to plug into their programming, would America be measurably better off today?, then I have to admit, I would be very surprised if any measurement possible by today's analysis tools could pick up on even a slight influence by Ann. If that's so, why am I so vulnerable to her? Why do I give her so much immediate attention and space in my holy mind? Why can she trigger my anger processes into full alert so effortlessly when her true potency is no more harmful (per person) to society -- measurably -- than, say, a barking dog's harm when it excites negativity at 3 in the morning? To be silly, how many barking dog's worth of stress would it take to equal an Ann Coulter five-minute, KKK tirade on Fox? Am I really that intuitive that I KNOW she's harmful, or is she just an easy target, and, gadzooks, it is I -- not her -- who is really the holder-of-hate for the manifestation of which she's being set-up to take the fall when actually almost any reason will do me if I want to get myself high by hating? If we look at the concept of Maharishi's (hypocritical) stance that we should not rail on the heads of leaders, because they're just innocent expressions of the group consciousness of society, then Ann's presence merely shamefully proves our society's level of angst, and if not her, then someone or somemany will have gravitated to her position and have done whatever she didn't do; so Ann's really and actually only filling a slot and not deeply harming culture with any potency, but rather self-harming is an emergent property of our society's dissonance. (Hypocritical: George Bush is Satan. or England is a bad country. -- if that's not railing on innocents, I'd like to know what is.) I've had my own personal enemies who have coldly and cruelly trampled my best laid schemes and -- seemingly only -- been the causative agents in my gang aft agley experiences. It would be easy to justify virtually any manner of pay-back upon many of them -- except for that nasty fact of life: I am a free mind who involved myself with them, let them get under my radar, gave them access to me, and denied any and all intuitions about them, until, finally, they squished me into a writhing goo under their feet like a wad of gum on a hot sidewalk. How does one OWN one's participation in all the world's negativity? We thought we could escape causality by transcending the problems that we were a part of, right? That was the theory, right? But while the TFB is still telling the TBs that today's front-burner problems are merely that final roiling of Helium just before it enters perfect coherence when it's near absolute zero, and to expect that the Maharishi Effect will suddenly phase transition our society into peace any moment now that Maharishi's spiritual powers have increased a thousandfold now that he and Guru Dev are tag-teaming the earth with sacred intent, meanwhile, every ex-TB knows that the world is in a far worse place than it was before TFB came out with its World Plan. (TFB = the fucking business.) But is it? Is the world in a far worse place? Well, do we ask Ann for the answer to that question? Willytex perhaps? Or do we ask Chopra or the Dali Lama? That we choose those whom we listen to seems more powerful than whom is selected as our expert answerer. Harder to hate Ann, eh? But, yeah, hating Ann is delicious pain -- sorta like that burn you get from Big Red gum -- hate it but ya keep chewing. Here's my bottom line: Ann is put out there to draw our
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gran Torino
Nice summation. Many on FFL appear to be the same bitter old man that Clint dramatizes, except their war is in the realm of decades of meditation, sprinkled of course with a bit of slapstick. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: From: Bhairitu noozg...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Gran Torino To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 2:37 PM Last week when I went to see Milk I noted that Century theaters had lowered their senior age from 65 to 62. Not only that they have Senior Mondays where the evening shows are $6 for seniors (that's a $1.25 off the usual senior price). So being an old fart myself having recently turned 62 I decided last night to see a movie about an old fart, Clint Eastwood's Gran Torino at the Century theater in nearby yuppieville Walnut Creek which is the only theater in the area showing it. The theater did a reasonable Monday night business although the majority was not senior citizens and arriving 15 minutes early was ample time to get the best seat in the house because the show was in a large auditorium. The film about a tough but elderly man whose wife recently passed away and whose kids are trying to get him to move into a retirement home who has new neighbors who are Vietnamese. In fact most of the neighborhood is being taken over by Asians. He doesn't understand and disdain's his new neighbors. But eventually because of rescuing the kid next door from an Asian gang gains the respect of his neighbors and strikes up a relationship them. In a way this film has the elements of a feel good movie of the year but it has its dark and brutal moments. But it is well worth a look see. I don't know if Eastwood announced that this was the last film he was going to star in but the critics keep saying it will the last one he is in. We'll see, because for some reason 78 doesn't seem that old to me anymore. ;-) Good film. Wonderful, moving ending that, to be honest, I didn't expect, but made all the sense in the world. Some of the secondary plots I thought were silly and didn't work for me. Like trying to teach the boy to speak like a man. Too much like slapstick. But overall, a very good movie about a bitter old man who transcends his limits and shows us what really beats in the heart of an old warrior. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 03 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 10 00:00:00 2009 491 messages as of (UTC) Tue Jan 06 23:58:13 2009 53 Robert babajii...@... I checked the logs, and you did delete two posts, but that still leaves you at 51.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Myth of the Relaxation Response
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 6, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From: David Orme-Johnson [mailto:davi...@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:10 PM To: David Orme-Johnson Subject: Myth of the Relaxation Response Dear Colleagues... (snore...) You know, I really wonder what crime DOJ committed in his last life, that he has to spend so much time in this one apologizing for TM, and rationalizing why so many quit. Must have been a doozy. Maybe he was the one who offed GD. Sal nah, the one that offed Guru Dev was you. btw, how's that relaxation response workin' for you? lol
[FairfieldLife] OM
from wildmind.org Like many mantras, this one begins with Om. Om has no meaning, and its origins are lost in the mists of time. Om is considered to be the primeval sound, the sound of the universe, the sound from which all other sounds are formed. In the Brahminical tradition, from where Buddhism undoubtedly obtained mantra practice, Om is not just the universal sound, but the sound of the universe itself. For example in the (non-Buddhist) Mandukya Upanishad, it is said: Om! This syllable is this whole world. Its further explanation is: The past, the present, the future everything is just the word Om. And whatever else that transcends threefold time that, too, is just the word Om. Om is therefore a sound symbolizing reality. It represents everything in the universe, past, present, and future. It even represents everything that is outside of those three times. It therefore represents both the mundane world of time in which the mind normally functions, and the world as perceived by the mind that is awakened and that experiences the world timelessly. It represents both enlightenment and non-enlightenment. You could regard Om as being the equivalent of white light, in which all of the colors of the rainbow can be found. One Sanskrit-English dictionary says the following: A word of solemn affirmation and respectful assent , sometimes translated by `yes, verily, so be it' (and in this sense compared with Amen); it is placed at the commencement of most Hindu works, and as a sacred exclamation may be uttered at the beginning and end of a reading of the Vedas or previously to any prayer; it is also regarded as a particle of auspicious salutation [Hail!]; Om appears first in the Upanishads as a mystic monosyllable, and is there set forth as the object of profound religious meditation, the highest spiritual efficacy being attributed not only to the whole word but also to the three sounds A, U, M, of which it consists.
[FairfieldLife] Malnak vs MMY, 1977
Concepts surrounding TM along with the puja are deemed religious in nature: from http://www.wildmind.org That the Science of Creative Intelligence/Transcendental Meditation and the teaching thereof, the concepts of the field of pure creative intelligence, creative intelligence and bliss consciousness, the textbook entitled Science of Creative Intelligence for Secondary EducationFirst Year CourseDawn of the First Year of the Age of Enlightenment, and the puja ceremony, are all religious in nature within the context of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, and the teaching thereof in the New Jersey public schools is therefore unconstitutional.
[FairfieldLife] Ethical behavior (was Re: spirituality spot found in brain)
Ah, thank you Ruth. I was wondering given the record. Improved 'moral reasoning' is solemnly pointed to by the Dr. in Hagelin's powerpoint present. Moral reasonging. It is a mouthful as he says it, but oddly there was not elaboration. Moral reasoning. Improved moral reasoning but a school and program with no ethical code or consideration. Not a we are this and not that to be found. No chart on moral behavior. No limit to what they will tolerate in ethical behavior. Very nuevo. Very nuevo. Not classic moral philosophy neither. TMorg mores, without conscience? 'what were they thinking?' Emerson los transcendentalists saw conscience as a faculty of moral instinct. An inner transcendental form as they saw it to develop. A faculty and a soul of a voice. At the least, that little voice inside that says, No. Ethics: a system of moral standards or values Conscience: as that inner faculty of moral discernment conscience different from reasoning. Conscience as that faculty of clear quiet brain wherein the brain receives its soul of moral guidance, its ethics. Unethical. Is the culture of the TMo without conscience or just bad ethical code? Does sort of reflect on them that there is not anywhere in the MUM catalog a code of ethic they would stand by in their governance and way of doing business. A non-tolerance of bad behavior anywhere. Spiritual Regeneration. Leading on Hagelin has missed a chance entirely coming off of the death of Maharishi to walk erect and say, We are not that hence forth we will not tolerate bad behaviors in our doings our books are open and our dealings will be forthright, transparent honest from here on. The past, was just a lesser state of conscience consciousness. The instruction is simple and, in my day, oft repeated: Do not do that which you know to be wrong. So the question would be, in interviewing someone who did something the rest of us find morally compromised, Did you simply not know such an act was wrong? Or did you know, yet do it anyway?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Suktam chanted in FF
Fri. 7 9:30 pm: Invocation MahaLakshmi Puja Sat. 9:30 am noon: Puja Group Recitation of Sri Sukta 1:30 5 pm: Group Recitation of Sri Sukta 7 9:30 pm: Group Recitation Lakshmi Sahasrana Sun. 9:30 noon: Puja Group Recitation of Sri Sukta 1:30 5 pm: Group Recitation of Sri Sukta 6 8:30 pm: MahaLakshmi fire ceremony 1 mile south on Rte. 1, left on 227th St., 2nd house on the right. 8:30 9:30 pm Closing prayers (Back at Morning Star Studio) All weekend events will be held at Morning Star Studio except the Sunday evening MahaLakshmi fire ceremony, which will be held at 2140 227th St. Take Rte. 1 south, then left on 227th Street, go to second house on the right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'MSNBC Bans Lead Raksashii'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote: She is so profoundly devisive. Her critiques are almost always hate filled polemics. If a point she is making is valid, it is usually so covered in hate-shit you can't see it but can only smell the stench of hate. Obviously, you've never read the HuffingtonPost. On any given day, you'll see more vitriole and hate on the world's leading Leftist website than Ann Coulter has written in her lifetime. Does she come up with doozers? Sure, but so does Don Rickles...and we all laugh at his hate. --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Robert babajii...@... wrote: From: Robert babajii...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'MSNBC Bans Lead Raksashii' To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 3:57 AM NBC CUTS COULTER; KEEPS PEREZ Mon Jan 05 2009 17:50:57 ET **Exclusive Details** The nation's top selling conservative author has been banned from appearing on NBC, insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT. We are just not going to have her on any more, it's over, a top network source explains. But a second top suit strongly denies there is any Coulter ban. Look for a re-invite, as soon as Wednesday, said the news executive, who asked not to be named. NBC's TODAY show abruptly cut Ann Coulter from its planned Tuesday broadcast, claiming the schedule was overbooked. Executives at NBC TODAY replaced Coulter with showbiz reporter Perez Hilton, who recently offered $1,000 to anyone who would throw a pie at Ann Coulter. Hilton is also launching a new book this week, RED CARPET SUICIDE. Coulter was set to unveil her new book, GUILTY. One network insider claims it was the book's theme -- a brutal examination of liberal bias in the new era -- that got executives to dis-invite the controversialist. We are just not interested in anyone so highly critical of President-elect Obama, right now, a TODAY insider reveals. It's such a downer. It's just not the time, and it's not what our audience wants, either. Others inside the peacock network strongly deny the book's theme is at issue. For the book, Coulter reportedly received the most-lucrative advance ever paid to a conservative author. The TODAY show eagerly invited the author months ago, for her first network interview on GUILTY. The exclusive was to air during the show's 7 AM hour. The cut came Monday afternoon. Coulter was also to appear on the TODAY's fourth hour. A host even teased the segment saying the 'conservative pit bull and bestselling author' would be a guest. NBC's cable outlet, MSNBC, will also become a Coulter-free zone, insiders explain. Morning host Joe Scarborough is said to be concerned with the new ban. He's working to overrule it, tips a source. Developing...
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'MSNBC Bans Lead Raksashii'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: She is so profoundly devisive. Her critiques are almost always hate filled polemics. If a point she is making is valid, it is usually so covered in hate-shit you can't see it but can only smell the stench of hate. Obviously, you've never read the HuffingtonPost. On any given day, you'll see more vitriole and hate on the world's leading Leftist website than Ann Coulter has written in her lifetime. Does she come up with doozers? Sure, but so does Don Rickles...and we all laugh at his hate. Let me rephrase that: On any given day, you'll see more vitriole and hate on FairfieldLIfe J (particularly from do.rflex and off_world) than Ann Coulter has written in her lifetime. --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: From: Robert babajii_99@ Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'MSNBC Bans Lead Raksashii' To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 3:57 AM NBC CUTS COULTER; KEEPS PEREZ Mon Jan 05 2009 17:50:57 ET **Exclusive Details** The nation's top selling conservative author has been banned from appearing on NBC, insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT. We are just not going to have her on any more, it's over, a top network source explains. But a second top suit strongly denies there is any Coulter ban. Look for a re-invite, as soon as Wednesday, said the news executive, who asked not to be named. NBC's TODAY show abruptly cut Ann Coulter from its planned Tuesday broadcast, claiming the schedule was overbooked. Executives at NBC TODAY replaced Coulter with showbiz reporter Perez Hilton, who recently offered $1,000 to anyone who would throw a pie at Ann Coulter. Hilton is also launching a new book this week, RED CARPET SUICIDE. Coulter was set to unveil her new book, GUILTY. One network insider claims it was the book's theme -- a brutal examination of liberal bias in the new era -- that got executives to dis-invite the controversialist. We are just not interested in anyone so highly critical of President-elect Obama, right now, a TODAY insider reveals. It's such a downer. It's just not the time, and it's not what our audience wants, either. Others inside the peacock network strongly deny the book's theme is at issue. For the book, Coulter reportedly received the most-lucrative advance ever paid to a conservative author. The TODAY show eagerly invited the author months ago, for her first network interview on GUILTY. The exclusive was to air during the show's 7 AM hour. The cut came Monday afternoon. Coulter was also to appear on the TODAY's fourth hour. A host even teased the segment saying the 'conservative pit bull and bestselling author' would be a guest. NBC's cable outlet, MSNBC, will also become a Coulter-free zone, insiders explain. Morning host Joe Scarborough is said to be concerned with the new ban. He's working to overrule it, tips a source. Developing...
[FairfieldLife] I find this ironic
Massachusetts is arguably the most liberal state in the union. After all, it has gay marriage and sends the likes of Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and Barney Frank to Congress. That's why I find it ironic that it is the only state that I know of with a flat tax rate for income! Perhaps it's because I associate a flat tax with conservative/libertarian policy and progressive taxation with liberals...but don't you find it strange that they would have a flat tax?
[FairfieldLife] Aw, FFLers shown up: Coulter uncancelled by NBC
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/05/ann-coulters-today-show- a_n_155393.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 03 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 10 00:00:00 2009 491 messages as of (UTC) Tue Jan 06 23:58:13 2009 53 Robert babajii_99@ I checked the logs, and you did delete two posts, but that still leaves you at 51. Yeah, and the weekly post maximum has never been Net 50 posts but, simply 50 posts. If one could get under the wire by deleting the overage, we all should have been informed of this loophole. Cut his balls off.