Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma?
Judy, I'd say that if TMSP esp in a group, esp rounding, is not one's dharma, it'll just get so uncomfortable that a person won't be able to continue. There's a built in feedback mechanism that a person is free to heed or ignore. As for doing TMSP vs caring for animals, etc., many TMers do both. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:26 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? Share wrote: I'd say it depends on what one's dharma is. Here's a little poem: if you're in your dharma, you'll get the good karma! Did it ever occur to you to wonder whether maybe TMers, or some TMers at least, are trying to do the dharma of another? Is it possible your dharma could be caring for abused animals, or abused humans, rather than sitting/bouncing on your butt with your eyes closed? From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:33 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Card, I like Maharishi's analogy of bad karma being like a bill that comes due. Say the bill is for $100. If you've been doing TM, etc. then you have $1000 in the bank and it's not a pinch to pay that bill. Otherwise, you have only $10 in the bank so it is quite a pinch to pay it. The bill is the exact same amount. But its impact is quite different depending on the amount in one's *savings account.* Dream on. So by doing TM, etc. (whatever the etc. means) you are gaining good karma? And you believe this exactly why? I really, really believe that spending 20 minutes or half an hour or an hour soothing and rescuing abused and homeless animals (or tending to those who are lonely or afraid in some precarious situation in their lives) far outweighs sitting with your eyes closed repeating a meaningless sound. Sorry, but it has yet to be proven to my satisfaction that practicing TM is doing one damn thing for the planet. Thus, no good karmic payload in any imaginary bank. From: cardemaister@... cardemaister@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? Does meditation and especially yogic flying somehow speed up the ripening of karma (both positive and negative)? IMU, there are quite a lot of active yogic flyers in Japan. So, does Japan have lots of dark karma associated particularly with nuclear fission, and stuff??
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma?
Doc, Nisargadatta smoked cigarettes and died of lung disease. Maybe for him that was like having a million dollars in the bank and a bill for $1 came due? I think as long as we have a physical body that aspect of our Being is subject to the laws of karma. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 12:12 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? It is a good analogy, and even better is living a life where karma ceases to have meaning. Established in Ritam Bhara Pragya, the rhythm of the universe, karma is rendered either obsolete, or meaningless. The reflection of self, to Self, in order to gauge karma, no longer occurs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A very good analogy, IMO. From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? Card, I like Maharishi's analogy of bad karma being like a bill that comes due. Say the bill is for $100. If you've been doing TM, etc. then you have $1000 in the bank and it's not a pinch to pay that bill. Otherwise, you have only $10 in the bank so it is quite a pinch to pay it. The bill is the exact same amount. But its impact is quite different depending on the amount in one's *savings account.* From: cardemaister@... cardemaister@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? Does meditation and especially yogic flying somehow speed up the ripening of karma (both positive and negative)? IMU, there are quite a lot of active yogic flyers in Japan. So, does Japan have lots of dark karma associated particularly with nuclear fission, and stuff??
[FairfieldLife] Re: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: No, I doubt if Yahoo will return to the old interface. They've put too much work into Neo... I agree. Seeing corporate software from the inside as I tend to do these days, there are careers on the line with Neo. It may *be* a piece of shit, but it's *their* piece of shit, and they won't let it die. ...which is obviously aimed at being compatible with the growing mobile market. The old classic interface was poor for mobile devices. True that. I've seen and played with Neo on my iPhone, and it's much better on that format, which is pretty much *the* driving platform in software today. If it don't run on a mobile, it ain't happenin'. This trend may, in the long term, be bad for those of us who still have a habitual and emotional commitment to keyboards and monitors, in the form of laptops. My beloved Acer is gettin' old, and I'm looking at replacements. The new tiny Acer, lighter than but more powerful than the Mac Airbook, might be a possible contender, but no tablet is. Don't get me wrong...I'd *love* to have one to play with, but as a working (or given my lifestyle writing in cafes, playing) computer, it just don't cut it. I need a laptop. But I'm sure they'll take into any modifications that can be reasonably made to accommodate those who preferred the classic interface. (But don't count on it). The one thing I predict you *won't* see is making the interspersed comments in replies easier to create and see. That's really a carryover from the old Usenet and its method of quoting, and has ceased to be relevant on more modern interfaces. They tend to use graphical bars to indicate quoted material, not signs. And the overall thinking IMO is geared towards top posting. That's fallout from 1) mobiles, 2) a generation that just doesn't write long replies any more because they've been brainwashed by Twitter, 3) ease of implementation and (on mobiles in particular) ease of use, and 4) familiarity on the part of a new generation of users -- less of a learning curve. Top posting is here to stay, and lack of support for interspersed replies is pushin' up daisies. That's something that -- even though I'm often a fan of it myself and in fact am using it in this reply -- IMO is an anachronism left over from the Usenet days. We were just discovering online chats and discussions back then, and a lot of us were long-winded. And there were a lot of com- pulsive nitpickers (myself among them) who felt the need to reply to a post quote by quote, to agree or refute with it as if their agreement or disagreement were really important. :-) These days people -- and even in business emails -- do NOT reply point by point. Instead they fold their entire response into a summary, and put it at the top of the post. An assumption is made that the person being replied to remembers what the original post was about. Another assumption is that the person who said what you're replying to is adult enough not to need it parroted back to them and replied to point by point, as if the words had dripped from the lips of god herself. Also that no one in the conversation is paranoid about being misquoted or taken out of context. :-) As has been pointed out here, the worst aspect of Neo *is* in terms of its Reply interface. Quotes should be clearly identified as to who posted them, by *handle*, not by registered email id, or fairfieldlife@ I've still been spared having to use it, and am not looking forward to doing so, but I agree it's here to stay. Those of us tech Luddites who lament the passing of the classic interface are pissing into the wind; no attention will be paid to us because we are the past, and Yahoo is aiming at the future.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
Seraphita, yes a warm welcome can be extended. But if someone has been lurking here for a while, they will see beyond that! FFL has a reputation of being gratuitously conflictual. That's maybe what keeps lurkers lurking. I was warned about it before I joined in May 2012. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Re Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities.: well, if anyone wants to start a topic for discussion that is more constructive and life-affirming, what's stopping them? Re Bhairitu's What percentage is the viewership of the group who are subscribed? : can we extend a warm welcome to all those who are lurking. Now can you please come and join the party and let's hear what you have to say based on your experiences. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities.
[FairfieldLife] Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
OK, you knew that as a Joss Whedon fanboy I couldn't not comment on this series. I have to or they'll take away my browncoat. :-) I *am* a committed Joss fanboy, but that said I'm far more a fan of him developing his *own* ideas than those of others. Joss' ideas are The Bomb, man. Testimonies to that creative side of Joss include Buffy (what is not to like about a normal teenage girl who suddenly discovers that she's the Slayer, and all that stands between earth and a universe of evil monsters?) and Firefly/Serenity (similarly, what is not to like about outlaws in space?). It also includes Dollhouse, which I personally believe is one of the best and most intelligent scifi TV series ever created, *far* superior to many that most people would place at the top of their lists. But then there's the fanboy side of Joss Whedon. He has been a life- long comics fan. He reads them, he collects them, he knows the classics by heart, and he even writes and draws them himself. *Of course* he loves The Avengers, and *of course* he did the best job in history of bringing a big Marvel epic to the screen. I suspect that he'll do the same thing with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. But it's an uphill battle to drag me -- Joss fanboy that I am -- into his comic book fetish. I liked The Avengers, but it just didn't float my boat because as I said before I prefer Joss' original ideas to his render- ing of other people's ideas. I feel the same about Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. I will watch it, and applaud the good parts and laugh at the funny parts, but a part of me will always be longing for characters created by Joss himself. That said, I think that we have to cut this first episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. a bit of a break, because it's an origin tale. It has to try to create a storyline and introduce characters we've never met before (with one exception), and *get us interested in them*, interested enough to tune in every week, all within one hour (or less, given commercials). It's a formidable task, and judging from the positive reviews from both critics and viewers, Joss seems to have pulled it off. But the characters didn't really hook *me*. Despite Joss' tendency to reuse actors he's worked with before, I saw only one, Ron Glass. Most of the others are too young and pretty for me to identify with, but a few of them have the potential to develop into true genuflect Joss Whedon Characters. I like Fitzsimmons, for example -- the two lab nerds, one named Fitz and the other Simmons, who finish each others' sentences and work well together while exchanging witty quips. They have potential. And certainly Chloe Bennet as Skye has potential. She's supposed to be our favorite character, and she pulled that off for me. I like the way her character was introduced, and the way the actress pulled it off. The loner nerd who single-handedly tracks down a potential superhero who S.H.I.E.L.D. had never heard about (nerd genius), and then tries to recruit him, revealing her other side (homeless nerd genius): Skye: Come to my office... Mike: You have an office? Skye: Yes, I have an office...a mobile office...it's a van...I live in it...by choice... She's also great when Coulson tries to recruit *her* for S.H.I.E.L.D. She doesn't trust them, so he walks into the interrogation room with his biggest, baddest macho male agent, holds up a big-ass hypodermic and says it contains a fast-acting truth serum that cannot be blocked. Then, as she's expecting to be the one given the drug, he shoots up the uptight macho agent Brett instead of Skye, and then leaves the room, letting her ask *him* questions, which leads to a couple of funny moments like: Brett: I'll just call upon my training. There is no way I'm going to reveal classified secrets to a girl who's hell-bent on taking us down... Skye: Have you ever killed anyone? Brett: (immediately, no pause) Yes, a few...high-risk targets, but they were terrible people who were trying to murder nice people...and I didn't feel good afterwards. Skye: I understand. Does your grandmother know about these things? Brett: (almost crying) Grammy? So I *like* Skye, and I'll be interested to see how she develops. I'll give the series a chance, even though part of me will always be wishing he'd done a third season of Dollhouse instead. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Highest rated drama debut in 4 years with 12 million viewers. Funny thing is Whedon seems to be holding the cards close because IMDB so far only lists 3 episodes and elsewhere I see 4. On 09/27/2013 09:09 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I have enjoyed most of the Marvel Comic movies, but Agents of Shield was rather stale *From:* Bhairitu noozguru@... Nah, Walt's going to take a job at a nearby logging camp working along side a guy from Miami. ;-) I hope you haven't been too busy fussing over Neo and FFL to have missed the best new fall
Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn
Steve, was there anything in Initiation about addiction? Or about when the soul enters the body? What's one point from Thinking and Destiny that you appreciated? From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:33 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn that does sound right. and as I recall, when the discussion of this book came up before, many years ago, I was more confident that the modality put forth in the book could be effective. and as I recall, I was pretty well blasted for that. I think that a substance addiction such as that is much more difficult to kick. and I think, as you say, that a gambling addiction is also nothing to trifle with. winning, then losing, then wanting to make it back. quite a cycle. metaphysical literature always has some interesting things to say about some of the behind scenes forces of addiction. I am thinking now, primarily of what I've read in Thinking and Destiny by Harold Percival. P.S. We just saw the movie Prisoners I recommend it. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve, I think even the behavioral addictions like gambling have a chemical component. Meaning that the behavior releases and or stimulates certain chemicals in the brain that produce a good feeling. But I would think that the direct chemical addictions like cocaine might be beyond whether or not one is told the supply is unlimited. I often tell my Mom that it's not that she doesn't have will power. It's that a little sugar in the morning will create a craving that will continue all day long. Does this make sense? From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Hey Judy, sorry for any nastiness. Seraphita's analysis of the book touched on some of the reasons I did like the book. Addiction issues have always been of interest to me, maybe because those tendencies run in my family, although more along an OC vein. What I enjoyed about Diary of Drug Fiend was again, something Sera touched on - that cocaine and heroin can have some beneficial applications. And also, one technique brought to light in the book was that removing the taboo on taking the drugs, could help mitigate some of the addictive hold of the drugs. Now, perhaps in the long term, or even short term that will not work, but I find it an interesting idea, and one that I employ on occasion with regard to some tendencies I have. I mean that is nothing new. Telling someone that can't have something only increases the desire to have it. If they can suddenly have it in unlimited amounts, then, it may lesson the desire. As for an addiction, perhaps not, but that was the premise of the book, IIRC. Plus the story line was kind of interesting Having said that, that is about the only piece in the Crowley list of writings that I have really looked in a more than cursory fashion. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Seraphita wrote: From:authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:32 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve wrote: Like Sera said, (Sera??) maybe delve a little deeper into some of his writings before you make a snap judgment. Did Ann delve into any of his writings, to any depth? Or did she say she'd been turned off by his ridiculous garb in the photo she posted? I don't blame her, frankly. How could anybody who'd be willing to be photographed in a getup like that possibly have anything to say that one would want to take seriously? You're funny Judy. I hope your m o in life is working for you. Somewhere along the way I've learned to look beyond superficial appearances to make judgments about people. But as they say, whatever works for ya. You know, I've been reading voraciously for most of my life, and there's still gobs and gobs of stuff I have yet to get to. How do I choose? I don't have that much time left. Somebody who looks like a pretentious asshole is less likely to be worth my while. Maybe I'm wrong in any given case, but I have to have some way of beginning to narrow down my choices. You might want to give me a break, though, because I've found your enthusiasm for Crowley convincing enough to be willing to look further than that photo (for
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Boy, did Maharishi get that one right!
Buck sez: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam. Certainly he is Maharaj... Should we chip in to buy him a Rolls-Royce with a machine gun so he can go tiger hunting like that other Maharaja I mentioned yesterday? ...and our designated Guru also. Ahem. Speak for yourself. First, some of us dumped that belief that we somehow need a guru long ago. Second, even if we valued gurus, we might not believe that their students can be passed down to the next guru in succession, as if they were slaves. We don't really know much about him... Or care.
[FairfieldLife] Baking Bad
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Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn
I don't recall anything about addiction in Initiation. The big take away for me in Initiation, other than the interesting background on what times were like (at least supposedly) during the high period of the Pharaohs, is that there is a danger in pushing your spiritual development beyond what your body is prepared for. And, as is the case in so many instances, her downfall had to due with not first fully processing her sexual life. Of course it turned out okay in the end, if you take into account a few thousand years. Well, as for TD and one point about addictions, in the case of alcohol, he points that there is something akin to spirits connected with that substance, that helps drive the addiction. Are you familiar with that book? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:14 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve, was there anything in Initiation about addiction? Or about when the soul enters the body? What's one point from Thinking and Destiny that you appreciated? From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:33 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn that does sound right. and as I recall, when the discussion of this book came up before, many years ago, I was more confident that the modality put forth in the book could be effective. and as I recall, I was pretty well blasted for that. I think that a substance addiction such as that is much more difficult to kick. and I think, as you say, that a gambling addiction is also nothing to trifle with. winning, then losing, then wanting to make it back. quite a cycle. metaphysical literature always has some interesting things to say about some of the behind scenes forces of addiction. I am thinking now, primarily of what I've read in Thinking and Destiny by Harold Percival. P.S. We just saw the movie Prisoners I recommend it. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve, I think even the behavioral addictions like gambling have a chemical component. Meaning that the behavior releases and or stimulates certain chemicals in the brain that produce a good feeling. But I would think that the direct chemical addictions like cocaine might be beyond whether or not one is told the supply is unlimited. I often tell my Mom that it's not that she doesn't have will power. It's that a little sugar in the morning will create a craving that will continue all day long. Does this make sense? From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Hey Judy, sorry for any nastiness. Seraphita's analysis of the book touched on some of the reasons I did like the book. Addiction issues have always been of interest to me, maybe because those tendencies run in my family, although more along an OC vein. What I enjoyed about Diary of Drug Fiend was again, something Sera touched on - that cocaine and heroin can have some beneficial applications. And also, one technique brought to light in the book was that removing the taboo on taking the drugs, could help mitigate some of the addictive hold of the drugs. Now, perhaps in the long term, or even short term that will not work, but I find it an interesting idea, and one that I employ on occasion with regard to some tendencies I have. I mean that is nothing new. Telling someone that can't have something only increases the desire to have it. If they can suddenly have it in unlimited amounts, then, it may lesson the desire. As for an addiction, perhaps not, but that was the premise of the book, IIRC. Plus the story line was kind of interesting Having said that, that is about the only piece in the Crowley list of writings that I have really looked in a more than cursory fashion. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:16 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Seraphita wrote: From:authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 8:32 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve wrote: Like Sera said, (Sera??) maybe delve a
[FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma?
Doc, karma so pervasive as to be meaningless I can relate to. I love those kind of paradoxes. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:22 AM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? LOL - Yeah, Share, *everyone* dies of something. Karma continues to operate, largely unnoticed, as the universal law. There is no longer an impact on the individual, anymore than there is an impact on a tree, during the changing of the seasons. There is no bank account, no $1000 or $1. Such a comparison can no longer being made. That is why I said, rather than it disappearing, karma is rendered obsolete, or so pervasive, that it is meaningless. Do you understand the difference? There is no state of manifestation, where karma is absent - how could that even be possible? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Doc, Nisargadatta smoked cigarettes and died of lung disease. Maybe for him that was like having a million dollars in the bank and a bill for $1 came due? I think as long as we have a physical body that aspect of our Being is subject to the laws of karma. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 12:12 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? It is a good analogy, and even better is living a life where karma ceases to have meaning. Established in Ritam Bhara Pragya, the rhythm of the universe, karma is rendered either obsolete, or meaningless. The reflection of self, to Self, in order to gauge karma, no longer occurs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: A very good analogy, IMO. From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? Card, I like Maharishi's analogy of bad karma being like a bill that comes due. Say the bill is for $100. If you've been doing TM, etc. then you have $1000 in the bank and it's not a pinch to pay that bill. Otherwise, you have only $10 in the bank so it is quite a pinch to pay it. The bill is the exact same amount. But its impact is quite different depending on the amount in one's *savings account.* From: cardemaister@... cardemaister@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Japan's karma? Does meditation and especially yogic flying somehow speed up the ripening of karma (both positive and negative)? IMU, there are quite a lot of active yogic flyers in Japan. So, does Japan have lots of dark karma associated particularly with nuclear fission, and stuff??
Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn
Steve, a few thousand years?! I can relate to that! A while ago, someone here posted something about the importance of asanas and pranayama to balance meditation time. I think that's a wise instruction. I've not read Thinking and Destiny but the title says it all maybe. As we think, so shall our destiny be (-: From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn I don't recall anything about addiction in Initiation. The big take away for me in Initiation, other than the interesting background on what times were like (at least supposedly) during the high period of the Pharaohs, is that there is a danger in pushing your spiritual development beyond what your body is prepared for. And, as is the case in so many instances, her downfall had to due with not first fully processing her sexual life. Of course it turned out okay in the end, if you take into account a few thousand years. Well, as for TD and one point about addictions, in the case of alcohol, he points that there is something akin to spirits connected with that substance, that helps drive the addiction. Are you familiar with that book? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:14 AM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve, was there anything in Initiation about addiction? Or about when the soul enters the body? What's one point from Thinking and Destiny that you appreciated? From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:33 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn that does sound right. and as I recall, when the discussion of this book came up before, many years ago, I was more confident that the modality put forth in the book could be effective. and as I recall, I was pretty well blasted for that. I think that a substance addiction such as that is much more difficult to kick. and I think, as you say, that a gambling addiction is also nothing to trifle with. winning, then losing, then wanting to make it back. quite a cycle. metaphysical literature always has some interesting things to say about some of the behind scenes forces of addiction. I am thinking now, primarily of what I've read in Thinking and Destiny by Harold Percival. P.S. We just saw the movie Prisoners I recommend it. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Steve, I think even the behavioral addictions like gambling have a chemical component. Meaning that the behavior releases and or stimulates certain chemicals in the brain that produce a good feeling. But I would think that the direct chemical addictions like cocaine might be beyond whether or not one is told the supply is unlimited. I often tell my Mom that it's not that she doesn't have will power. It's that a little sugar in the morning will create a craving that will continue all day long. Does this make sense? From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Hey Judy, sorry for any nastiness. Seraphita's analysis of the book touched on some of the reasons I did like the book. Addiction issues have always been of interest to me, maybe because those tendencies run in my family, although more along an OC vein. What I enjoyed about Diary of Drug Fiend was again, something Sera touched on - that cocaine and heroin can have some beneficial applications. And also, one technique brought to light in the book was that removing the taboo on taking the drugs, could help mitigate some of the addictive hold of the drugs. Now, perhaps in the long term, or even short term that will not work, but I find it an interesting idea, and one that I employ on occasion with regard to some tendencies I have. I mean that is nothing new. Telling someone that can't have something only increases the desire to have it. If they can suddenly have it in unlimited amounts, then, it may lesson the desire. As for an addiction, perhaps not, but that was the premise of the book, IIRC. Plus the story line was kind of interesting Having said that, that is about the only piece in the Crowley list of writings that I have really looked in a more than cursory fashion. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To:
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[FairfieldLife] #5# Are you Talking to Me?
To reflect... Are you Talking to Me? O you who dwell in the gardens, with companions listening for your voice; let me hear it. Songs of Solomon 8:13 Asmall boy, four years old, was eating an apple at the back of the car when he asked his father: Daddy, why does the apple turn brown? Because, explained his father, after you bite through the skin, the flesh of the apple comes in contact with the air, causing oxidation, thus changing the molecular structure, changing its colour. There was a long silence. Then the boy asked, Daddy, are you talking to me? What our soul desires most is to talk with God and hear Him talk with us. We want to be in His presence, we want to be in constant contact with Him, we want to hear His voice and we ardently desire that He hear ours. Without Him we are nothing, without Him we can go nowhere, without Him our life is empty and meaningless. We want to hear Him and we want to understand what He says to us. We want to talk with our Lord and we desire our words to be sincere, authentic and true. And when the Lord speaks to us, we understand. He knows that we can understand, He knows what we want to hear, He knows which words can quench our thirst to hear Him. When we are sad and depressed, He tells us His joy will strengthen us. When we are discouraged, He tells us to rise and shine, because He will cause His glory to shine on us. When He sees that our hope is finishing, He hugs us and invites us to only believe, promising to be at our side and guaranteeing our victory. We do not ever need to ask God, as the little boy asked his father: Are you talking to me? He will talk to us and we will know that He is talking to us. And, with a heart overflowing with joy, we can say: Yes, Father, I understand. Thank You! Paulo Barbosa A blind in internet tprob...@terra.com.br www.ministeriopararefletir.com.br (Portuguese)
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[FairfieldLife] Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
Edg sez: I stopped watching it about half way through. Edg, I hope you know that I'm not replying because you weren't a fan. I firmly believe that taste is in the eye of the beholder, and that you're more than entitled to yours. I wasn't much taken with it the first time I saw it, either. I'm replying because of what you said next: Thing is for me: if Thor comes to Earth, it changes everything far more than the series' lite take on that event.let alone The Hulk et alia being exposed to the masses in one stroke, and add to it aliens from a worm hole. Here is where we disagree. And it's because to some limited extent I've been there, done that. A lot of people raised up in the TM movement and its utter lack of anything spectacular or miraculous or even interesting seem to believe that (to synthesize comments made on this and other TM-related forums) If someone just demonstrated Yogic flying fer real -- real hovering- in-mid-air-the-way-a-brick-doesn't stuff -- it would Change The World. People would be so wowed out by such an event that it would change them forever, and the world would never be the same. I disagree. I've been in lecture halls in which the general public paid their $2 entry fee and came to a talk by a guy who then levitated onstage -- real hovering- in-mid-air-the-way-a-brick-doesn't stuff -- right in front of them. I invited one such non-pre-programmed guest (meaning that I never suggested *anything* she might experience, except an interesting meditation) to one of these talks in L.A. once. She was an ex of mine, but we were on friendly terms until that evening, even though I was distinctly Off The TM Program and she couldn't be more On The TM Program if she were sucking Maharishi's dick in secret and wearing saris and looking virginal in public. :-) I was sitting right beside her as she watched the guy do his thing. She's a bit of a Chatty Cathy, so we whis- pered to each other a lot during the talk. She kinda liked his rap, and his general talk-in-plain-people-talk approach. I think it appealed to her after years of having to speak Hindu-but-not-religious-because-TM-isn't-religious TM jargon. Then we meditated, and the guy invited newbs to either meditate with their eyes open, or open them occasionally to check out the room they were meditating in, and him up there onstage, if they felt like it. She did. Sitting next to her when she did this, I occasionally heard her gasp and say, OMG, he's levitating! Or OMG, he just turned invisible! Or OMG, the whole room just turned gold! And even the clincher, for an OTP TMer, OMG, I'm having the best, deepest, and most profound meditation of my life, in the L.A. Convention Center. After the talk, she continued in that vein. Over coffee before she went home (she really was an ex, and I had no intentions about her, personally or cult-ily), she babbled on about what she had seen. I didn't bother to call her the next day, or for a few days, figuring she needed to sit with what she'd seen and experienced. When I saw her next, she denied having seen or felt ANYTHING extraordinary that night. I reminded her of what she'd said about seeing him levitating and turning invisible and having a great meditation that night, and she denied ever having said it. I have heard in the years since that she even denies *ever having gone to see him*. THAT is how far people who are heavily invested in their current world view will go to protect and preserve it. To this day, I don't know exactly *what* it was we saw in those lecture halls and out in the desert and on mountaintops, but there is no question that we saw it. Literally thousands of people had these experiences. Some accepted *that* they had had them -- whatever they were -- and went public with them. Others, like my ex, blotted them from their mind and their memory and above all from their oh-so-important public image, and claimed never to have had such experiences. THAT is how I think people on the street would react to the events of The Avengers, and The Mighty Thor and The Hulk walking the same streets they walked. IMHO, 95% of them would have blotted out the memories of those events within a few days, just so their world view wouldn't be threatened and have to change.
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Neo on two Android browsers on a 4.5 phone screen: Firefox: works but Firefox tends to get the line width wrong in portrait mode. It's OK in landscape but most group users would probably prefer reading the group in portrait. Chrome: gets the line width right in portrait mode but just seems lock up. I don't think it likes the continual refresh as you scroll down. The third browser is the Android one which I have set to my login and I get the classic version of FFL. :-D On 09/29/2013 03:36 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: No, I doubt if Yahoo will return to the old interface. They've put too much work into Neo... I agree. Seeing corporate software from the inside as I tend to do these days, there are careers on the line with Neo. It may *be* a piece of shit, but it's *their* piece of shit, and they won't let it die. ...which is obviously aimed at being compatible with the growing mobile market. The old classic interface was poor for mobile devices. True that. I've seen and played with Neo on my iPhone, and it's much better on that format, which is pretty much *the* driving platform in software today. If it don't run on a mobile, it ain't happenin'. This trend may, in the long term, be bad for those of us who still have a habitual and emotional commitment to keyboards and monitors, in the form of laptops. My beloved Acer is gettin' old, and I'm looking at replacements. The new tiny Acer, lighter than but more powerful than the Mac Airbook, might be a possible contender, but no tablet is. Don't get me wrong...I'd *love* to have one to play with, but as a working (or given my lifestyle writing in cafes, playing) computer, it just don't cut it. I need a laptop. But I'm sure they'll take into any modifications that can be reasonably made to accommodate those who preferred the classic interface. (But don't count on it). The one thing I predict you *won't* see is making the interspersed comments in replies easier to create and see. That's really a carryover from the old Usenet and its method of quoting, and has ceased to be relevant on more modern interfaces. They tend to use graphical bars to indicate quoted material, not signs. And the overall thinking IMO is geared towards top posting. That's fallout from 1) mobiles, 2) a generation that just doesn't write long replies any more because they've been brainwashed by Twitter, 3) ease of implementation and (on mobiles in particular) ease of use, and 4) familiarity on the part of a new generation of users -- less of a learning curve. Top posting is here to stay, and lack of support for interspersed replies is pushin' up daisies. That's something that -- even though I'm often a fan of it myself and in fact am using it in this reply -- IMO is an anachronism left over from the Usenet days. We were just discovering online chats and discussions back then, and a lot of us were long-winded. And there were a lot of com- pulsive nitpickers (myself among them) who felt the need to reply to a post quote by quote, to agree or refute with it as if their agreement or disagreement were really important. :-) These days people -- and even in business emails -- do NOT reply point by point. Instead they fold their entire response into a summary, and put it at the top of the post. An assumption is made that the person being replied to remembers what the original post was about. Another assumption is that the person who said what you're replying to is adult enough not to need it parroted back to them and replied to point by point, as if the words had dripped from the lips of god herself. Also that no one in the conversation is paranoid about being misquoted or taken out of context. :-) As has been pointed out here, the worst aspect of Neo *is* in terms of its Reply interface. Quotes should be clearly identified as to who posted them, by *handle*, not by registered email id, or fairfieldlife@ I've still been spared having to use it, and am not looking forward to doing so, but I agree it's here to stay. Those of us tech Luddites who lament the passing of the classic interface are pissing into the wind; no attention will be paid to us because we are the past, and Yahoo is aiming at the future.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
I thought it was pretty boring - not nearly the equal of the mighty Firefly. I predict unless the network bigwigs give Joss the green light to put his own stamp on it, it won't last 2 seasons. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) I stopped watching it about half way through. Thing is for me: if Thor comes to Earth, it changes everything far more than the series' lite take on that event.let alone The Hulk et alia being exposed to the masses in one stroke, and add to it aliens from a worm hole. BAH. I wanted to resonate but it didn't happen. I needed MORE REALITY as it would be after suchlike. Love his other stuff though, so there's hope the series can mature and find the audience it needs to keep going -- better bad Joss than good almost by anyone else. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: OK, you knew that as a Joss Whedon fanboy I couldn't not comment on this series. I have to or they'll take away my browncoat. :-) I *am* a committed Joss fanboy, but that said I'm far more a fan of him developing his *own* ideas than those of others. Joss' ideas are The Bomb, man. Testimonies to that creative side of Joss include Buffy (what is not to like about a normal teenage girl who suddenly discovers that she's the Slayer, and all that stands between earth and a universe of evil monsters?) and Firefly/Serenity (similarly, what is not to like about outlaws in space?). It also includes Dollhouse, which I personally believe is one of the best and most intelligent scifi TV series ever created, *far* superior to many that most people would place at the top of their lists. But then there's the fanboy side of Joss Whedon. He has been a life- long comics fan. He reads them, he collects them, he knows the classics by heart, and he even writes and draws them himself. *Of course* he loves The Avengers, and *of course* he did the best job in history of bringing a big Marvel epic to the screen. I suspect that he'll do the same thing with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. But it's an uphill battle to drag me -- Joss fanboy that I am -- into his comic book fetish. I liked The Avengers, but it just didn't float my boat because as I said before I prefer Joss' original ideas to his render- ing of other people's ideas. I feel the same about Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. I will watch it, and applaud the good parts and laugh at the funny parts, but a part of me will always be longing for characters created by Joss himself. That said, I think that we have to cut this first episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. a bit of a break, because it's an origin tale. It has to try to create a storyline and introduce characters we've never met before (with one exception), and *get us interested in them*, interested enough to tune in every week, all within one hour (or less, given commercials). It's a formidable task, and judging from the positive reviews from both critics and viewers, Joss seems to have pulled it off. But the characters didn't really hook *me*. Despite Joss' tendency to reuse actors he's worked with before, I saw only one, Ron Glass. Most of the others are too young and pretty for me to identify with, but a few of them have the potential to develop into true genuflect Joss Whedon Characters. I like Fitzsimmons, for example -- the two lab nerds, one named Fitz and the other Simmons, who finish each others' sentences and work well together while exchanging witty quips. They have potential. And certainly Chloe Bennet as Skye has potential. She's supposed to be our favorite character, and she pulled that off for me. I like the way her character was introduced, and the way the actress pulled it off. The loner nerd who single-handedly tracks down a potential superhero who S.H.I.E.L.D. had never heard about (nerd genius), and then tries to recruit him, revealing her other side (homeless nerd genius): Skye: Come to my office... Mike: You have an office? Skye: Yes, I have an office...a mobile office...it's a van...I live in it...by choice... She's also great when Coulson tries to recruit *her* for S.H.I.E.L.D. She doesn't trust them, so he walks into the interrogation room with his biggest, baddest macho male agent, holds up a big-ass hypodermic and says it contains a fast-acting truth serum that cannot be blocked. Then, as she's expecting to be the one given the drug, he shoots up the uptight macho agent Brett instead of Skye, and then leaves the room, letting her ask *him* questions, which leads to a couple of funny moments like: Brett: I'll just call upon my training. There is no way I'm going to reveal classified secrets to a girl who's hell-bent on taking us down... Skye: Have you ever killed anyone? Brett: (immediately, no pause) Yes, a few...high-risk
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the TMO did censor people's reading in the long past, at least they made you pay for reading certain books by banning you from going on TTC From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Re That may be what the logic implies, but it doesn't seem to be the case in practice. After all, it would be pretty difficult to check the libraries of all TMers. And they'd need to monitor TMers' surfing as well, since most heretical literature is available on the Web.: Yes, I'm not seriously suggesting the TMO would try to censor our reading. Only that the logic of banning meeting other teachers has that implication. The conclusion, of course, is that they shouldn't worry about anyone visiting other rishis, gurus, what-have-you. (I'm whispering now. Can you hear me? By the way: does text colour show up if accessing posts via other mediums than laptops?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Seraphita wrote, responding to me: Seraphita wrote: (snip) If you can be banned from the Dome for going to see a rival teacher, can you also be banned for having in your possession holy books of rival teachings? I have the impression (but no inside info) that they aren't checking out TMers' personal libraries these days. In any case, I'm not a Fairfielder (and thus not a dome-goer), so it's not a concern for me. THE LOGIC OF BANNING PEOPLE FROM ATTENDING MEETINGS WOULD SEEM TO IMPLY A CONCERN WITH WHAT HERETICAL LITERATURE TMERS ARE READING. (Any chance you could do without the all-caps? It feels as if you're shouting. The color change is enough to identify who said what.) That may be what the logic implies, but it doesn't seem to be the case in practice. After all, it would be pretty difficult to check the libraries of all TMers. And they'd need to monitor TMers' surfing as well, since most heretical literature is available on the Web. The TMO does what it can and hopes for the best.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
I tend to look at TV shows a little differently having been somewhat in the business and to some extent still am. So I look at the storytelling and entertainment quality. It can be a sleazy cheezy z-movie shot on a $20 camcorder (yes, they have those that will even do HD) and if it has a good arc (tells a good story) will hold my interest. Too much of Hollywood is technique and of course money. Interesing thing about Agents is we don't know how many episodes have been produced. Perhaps Whedon is being cautious. Dollhouse had some very rushed scripts and production which tended to hurt it. The other thing I notice in reviews and comments from fans on the web is that many seem to have preconceived notions about what these shows should be and if it doesn't fit their preconceived notion then they don't like it. I even think that if Firefly we launched today they wouldn't like it. It just played well ( for some folks) in that period of time. I agree that Skye, Chloe Bennet's character is interesting. I'm trying to figure out what well known actress Bennet resembles. Bennet, BTW, is half Chinese. And yes she knows Mandarin. ;-) On 09/29/2013 04:08 AM, turquoiseb wrote: OK, you knew that as a Joss Whedon fanboy I couldn't not comment on this series. I have to or they'll take away my browncoat. :-) I *am* a committed Joss fanboy, but that said I'm far more a fan of him developing his *own* ideas than those of others. Joss' ideas are The Bomb, man. Testimonies to that creative side of Joss include Buffy (what is not to like about a normal teenage girl who suddenly discovers that she's the Slayer, and all that stands between earth and a universe of evil monsters?) and Firefly/Serenity (similarly, what is not to like about outlaws in space?). It also includes Dollhouse, which I personally believe is one of the best and most intelligent scifi TV series ever created, *far* superior to many that most people would place at the top of their lists. But then there's the fanboy side of Joss Whedon. He has been a life- long comics fan. He reads them, he collects them, he knows the classics by heart, and he even writes and draws them himself. *Of course* he loves The Avengers, and *of course* he did the best job in history of bringing a big Marvel epic to the screen. I suspect that he'll do the same thing with Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. But it's an uphill battle to drag me -- Joss fanboy that I am -- into his comic book fetish. I liked The Avengers, but it just didn't float my boat because as I said before I prefer Joss' original ideas to his render- ing of other people's ideas. I feel the same about Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. I will watch it, and applaud the good parts and laugh at the funny parts, but a part of me will always be longing for characters created by Joss himself. That said, I think that we have to cut this first episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. a bit of a break, because it's an origin tale. It has to try to create a storyline and introduce characters we've never met before (with one exception), and *get us interested in them*, interested enough to tune in every week, all within one hour (or less, given commercials). It's a formidable task, and judging from the positive reviews from both critics and viewers, Joss seems to have pulled it off. But the characters didn't really hook *me*. Despite Joss' tendency to reuse actors he's worked with before, I saw only one, Ron Glass. Most of the others are too young and pretty for me to identify with, but a few of them have the potential to develop into true genuflect Joss Whedon Characters. I like Fitzsimmons, for example -- the two lab nerds, one named Fitz and the other Simmons, who finish each others' sentences and work well together while exchanging witty quips. They have potential. And certainly Chloe Bennet as Skye has potential. She's supposed to be our favorite character, and she pulled that off for me. I like the way her character was introduced, and the way the actress pulled it off. The loner nerd who single-handedly tracks down a potential superhero who S.H.I.E.L.D. had never heard about (nerd genius), and then tries to recruit him, revealing her other side (homeless nerd genius): Skye: Come to my office... Mike: You have an office? Skye: Yes, I have an office...a mobile office...it's a van...I live in it...by choice... She's also great when Coulson tries to recruit *her* for S.H.I.E.L.D. She doesn't trust them, so he walks into the interrogation room with his biggest, baddest macho male agent, holds up a big-ass hypodermic and says it contains a fast-acting truth serum that cannot be blocked. Then, as she's expecting to be the one given the drug, he shoots up the uptight macho agent Brett instead of Skye, and then leaves the room, letting her ask *him* questions, which leads to a couple of funny moments like: Brett: I'll just call upon my training. There is no way I'm going to reveal classified secrets to a girl who's
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
On 09/29/2013 07:03 AM, Duveyoung wrote: I stopped watching it about half way through. Thing is for me: if Thor comes to Earth, it changes everything far more than the series' lite take on that event.let alone The Hulk et alia being exposed to the masses in one stroke, and add to it aliens from a worm hole. BAH. I wanted to resonate but it didn't happen. I needed MORE REALITY as it would be after suchlike. On a show about super heroes? Shirley, you jest. :-D
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s3raphtiasez: Re That may be what the logic implies, but it doesn't seem to be the case in practice. After all, it would be pretty difficult to check the libraries of all TMers. And they'd need to monitor TMers' surfing as well, since most heretical literature is available on the Web. Yes, I'm not seriously suggesting the TMO would try to censor our reading. But they DID. Long before there was a 'Web.' Back in L.A., in the late 1970s, I was a non-voting fly on the wall at various Inquisitions held at the end of Sunset Blvd at the official L.A. TM headquarters as hopefuls applied to go on long rounding courses or TM Teacher Training. I saw several (more than six) people *denied* entrance to those courses by supposedly On The Program TM teachers who were reviewing them as to their suitability to become similarly high-ranking TM teachers. All six were rejected *because of the books these supposed teachers had seen on their bookcases. Books by Carlos Castaneda, or Yogananda, much less Buddhist teachers. What made it all so galling, sitting there trying to stay uninvolved, was that I had been to many of these OTP teachers' houses, and knew that they had the *same* books on *their* bookcases. It was utter and complete hypocrisy, and I beat feet from the TMO soon afterwards. But DO NOT THINK that the TMO could never stoop that low. They have, and will again.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Think you are too little? N.S.A. Gathers Data on Social Connections of U.S. Citizens
They are SO FOCUSED on FFL and our plans for world domination. They figure that the Judy/Barry exchanges are cryptic code and that the techs here are going to erase their supercomputers and replace the data with Tom and Jerry cartoons. On 09/28/2013 07:00 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: N.S.A. Gathers Data on Social Connections of U.S. Citizens By JAMES RISEN http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/james_risen/index.html and LAURA POITRAS, New York Times,Published September 28, 2013 WASHINGTON — Since 2010, the National Security Agency http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/national_security_agency/index.html?inline=nyt-org has been exploiting its huge collections of data to create sophisticated graphs of some Americans’ social connections that can identify their associates, their locations at certain times, their traveling companions and other personal information, according to newly disclosed documents and interviews with officials. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/29/us/nsa-examines-social-networks-of-us-citizens.html?pagewanted=1_r=2ref=us **
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that's the whole point - its not about superheroes, its about the agents of shield, secret agents - the idea the network has is number one, they can't afford to pay the likes of Mark Ruffalo, or Robert Downey and if they have the superheros, they would upstage the agents, ironic since the tv version of SHIELD exists to monitor the supers, unlike the comic book version that was originally a covert and semi-military agency until the advent of the civil war story arc in Marvel comics. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) On 09/29/2013 07:03 AM, Duveyoung wrote: I stopped watching it about half way through. Thing is for me: if Thor comes to Earth, it changes everything far more than the series' lite take on that event.let alone The Hulk et alia being exposed to the masses in one stroke, and add to it aliens from a worm hole. BAH. I wanted to resonate but it didn't happen. I needed MORE REALITY as it would be after suchlike. On a show about super heroes? Shirley, you jest. :-D
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You must have watched a different show than I did. Or you have preconceived notions. :-D On 09/29/2013 11:23 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: that's the whole point - its not about superheroes, its about the agents of shield, secret agents - the idea the network has is number one, they can't afford to pay the likes of Mark Ruffalo, or Robert Downey and if they have the superheros, they would upstage the agents, ironic since the tv version of SHIELD exists to monitor the supers, unlike the comic book version that was originally a covert and semi-military agency until the advent of the civil war story arc in Marvel comics. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, September 29, 2013 12:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) On 09/29/2013 07:03 AM, Duveyoung wrote: I stopped watching it about half way through. Thing is for me: if Thor comes to Earth, it changes everything far more than the series' lite take on that event.let alone The Hulk et alia being exposed to the masses in one stroke, and add to it aliens from a worm hole. BAH. I wanted to resonate but it didn't happen. I needed MORE REALITY as it would be after suchlike. On a show about super heroes? Shirley, you jest. :-D
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The self-appointed gestapo for the TMO were not the original shakers and movers in the movement. In fact many of them because targets for the losers who became the gestapo. Thousands of teachers walked away at the point. They just didn't want to get into fights with these morons. Fortuantely they never bothered me or I would have knocked some sense into them, literally. On 09/29/2013 10:49 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Seraphita wrote: (snip) Yes, I'm not seriously suggesting the TMO would try to censor our reading. Only that the logic of banning meeting other teachers has that implication. The conclusion, of course, is that they shouldn't worry about anyone visiting other rishis, gurus, what-have-you. Total agreement. I understand why they do it, though; after all, these various saints are /accessible/. Many of the authors of heretical texts are long gone.
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From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 11:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn Re Steve Sundur's Hey Judy, sorry for any nastiness. Seraphita's analysis of the book touched on some of the reasons I did like the book. Addiction issues have always been of interest to me . . . when the discussion of this book came up before, many years ago, I was more confident that the modality put forth in the book could be effective.: If we are still talking about Crowley's Diary of a Drug Fiend, I mentioned above that he himself never lost his heroin habit. The drug was prescribed for his asthma so maybe he never had a fighting chance to stay clean. Curiously, I used the Beast's ideas when I quit smoking. The gist of Crowley's thinking here is that when a man (say) decides to stop a drug habit (let's say smoking) his surface consciousness comes up with lots of reasons - my clothes stink/it's an expensive habit/I'm coughing up phlegm/ . . . - but his deeper nature (his True Will) is actually rather keen on puffing away. The man has set up an uneven contest that he's destined to lose. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law Aleister Crowley (I guess, one his more notable quotes, although I think I've gotten a little fuzzy about its meaning) When I stopped smoking I did two things. First I decided to only stop for a week. That way it couldn't be any worse than having a dose of flu and there wouldn't be that nagging, horrid thought I will never again know the pleasure of inhaling on a cigarette. Secondly, as I've always been inordinately curious about whatever takes my fancy doesn't that suggest inordinate curiosity is part of my True Will? So I thought, I'll treat the experience of going cold turkey as if I'd just ingested a novel, experimental drug and I had to keep track and report back on what the effects were. In other words, I made the quitting into a game - and a game that would just be a short, sharp shock. At the end of the week I'd (more-or-less) sailed through the adventure and I knew I'd never smoke a cigarette again. Hey, maybe I should set up shop as an addiction counsellor!
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From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com Give me Thor saying, Here is what to do to gain a pure heart and mind, and, well, I'M LISTENING TO THAT SHIT, yup, sucking it down like it was soma. Are you really so clueless about this? Don't you think it has everything to do with continued and conscientious, inner work?
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Neo on mobile looks no different than it does on laptop or desktop, so yes the text is color highlighted. Uh, not all mobiel devices are tiny either. I have a 10 tablet too. On 09/29/2013 03:03 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: I only ever access FFL via my Acer laptop at home. Do those tiny hand-held devices and mobiles people now use always show FFL messages in colour? I'm just wondering if highlighting text to distinguish between one poster and a responder might be lost on some viewers . . ? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Neo on two Android browsers on a 4.5 phone screen: Firefox: works but Firefox tends to get the line width wrong in portrait mode. It's OK in landscape but most group users would probably prefer reading the group in portrait. Chrome: gets the line width right in portrait mode but just seems lock up. I don't think it likes the continual refresh as you scroll down. The third browser is the Android one which I have set to my login and I get the classic version of FFL. :-D
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danke schoen, emptybill, which would you rather be? Imprisoned FOR a thought or imprisoned BY a thought? They are idiots thinking info is power. Only knowledge is power.IMHO, fraulein Longlocher From: emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Think you are too little? N.S.A. Gathers Data on Social Connections of U.S. Citizens Share They want to store it so they can later investigate, arrest, indict and imprison you at will for what you said, inferred, intended or demonstrated. Willkommen, zu Amerika fraulein Share.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
I'd rather take lessons from Thor too, actually. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com Give me Thor saying, Here is what to do to gain a pure heart and mind, and, well, I'M LISTENING TO THAT SHIT, yup, sucking it down like it was soma. Are you really so clueless about this? Don't you think it has everything to do with continued and conscientious, inner work?
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Doesn't MUM have a separate meditation hall for meditators? They did when I was on staff, the meditation times were coordinated to be the same withe those who were in the Domes. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:06 PM Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fwd: The New Down Town Flying Hall Takes Off The movement is just plain stuck around this and will remain stuck as a popular movement if it can't figure out how to again include meditators meditating in the TM movement's group meditation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: i always found it very disturbing when different groups were let in after program starts. Maybe it doesn't bother you buck, but for me it was like a shock wave ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: People are very respectful of the whole group meditation and do quietly come and go gliding in and out all the time already. Meditators could certainly slip out quietly too. People do it all the time now. And, so what if they even see a little yogic flying. -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Om jeez it is not that big a deal to figure out. Just let meditator practitioners in too. A lot of people quietly come in and go out all the time through meditation and the long program already in the Dome now in every program. Bigshots, Rajas, University Professors, Administrators, students and common TSR TMSP practitioners all quietly come and go on their own schedules. Likewise in the downtown meditation hall. Just simply let meditators join in the group meditating and let them slip out. -Buck Somebody should get through to and ask Nader Raam, Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam if we could change the program to allow meditators to also join in the group meditation. Hey, numbers and proximity count in Meissner. The science even says this about meditators meditating in groups. Let us make some allowance for at least TM meditators to join in. Heck there is nothing special about the TMSP anymore. For decades Yogic Flying has been shown off in publicity stunts and it is all over the internet. In proximity and in numbers for the Meissner Effect, [ME] let meditators join in the meditation too. It is time to become more inclusive and take the larger movement back to meditation. It is time to change the program and let meditators in to the big group. 'Time to bring up the reserves'. Time to put in the meditators. Jai Brahmananda Saraswati, -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Buck, just being practical for a moment: how the heck would that work? After TM everybody would have to leave the hall and then just the sidhas allowed back in for TMSP and YF?! Anyway, the women's side of the town flying hall is usually packed in the evenings. I think on campus the meditators have their own program place. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fwd: The New Down Town Flying Hall Takes Off Somebody should get through to and ask Nader Raam, Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraamif we could change the program to allow meditators to also join in the group meditation. Hey, numbers and proximity count in Meissner. The science even says this about meditators meditating in groups. Let us make some allowance for at least TM meditators to join in. Heck there is nothing special about the TMSP anymore. For decades Yogic Flying has been shown off in publicity stunts and it is all over the internet. In proximity and in numbers for the Meissner Effect, [ME] let meditators join in the meditation too. It is time to become more inclusive and take the larger movement back to meditation. It is time to change the program and let meditators in to the big group. 'Time to bring up the reserves'. Time to put in the meditators. Jai Brahmananda Saraswati, -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Forwarded from: Ideal Community Group development@...Subject: The New Down Town Flying Hall Takes Off Date: September 27, 2013 11:45:55 AM CDT To: Dick, dickmays@... New Downtown Flying Hall Hi Dick, The New Downtown Flying Hall has turned out so much better than we had hoped. Here's some feedback from people who tried it out: The new Orpheum flying hall really is a great boon for the community. I find it to be very simple and silently comfortable there. You can slip in and slip out with great ease, and no complications. I urge more people to check it out and give it a try. I think you will be very happy. JS The Orpheum flying hall has proven to be a real asset
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories)
sure. maybe he'll oblige you. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) I'd rather take lessons from Thor too, actually. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (was Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories) From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com Give me Thor saying, Here is what to do to gain a pure heart and mind, and, well, I'M LISTENING TO THAT SHIT, yup, sucking it down like it was soma. Are you really so clueless about this? Don't you think it has everything to do with continued and conscientious, inner work?
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