[FairfieldLife] Distant cousins!

2013-10-05 Thread cardemaister













[FairfieldLife] Jesse is n*ts?

2013-10-05 Thread cardemaister













[FairfieldLife] pañca-karma recently?

2013-10-05 Thread cardemaister













[FairfieldLife] Reincarnation, guaranteed

2013-10-05 Thread turquoiseb
Come back as a tree...

 
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single  tree seed. When planted, the tree seed is nourished by and
absorbs the  nutrients from the ashes of your body which are contained
inside. The  urn itself is made from coconut shell and contains
compacted peat and  cellulose. The ashes are mixed with this, and the
seed placed inside. You can even choose which type of tree you'd like to
grow!

Once your remains have been placed into the urn, it can be planted and 
then the seed germinates and begins to grow. You even have the choice to
pick the type of plant you would like to become, depending on what kind 
of planting space you prefer.





[FairfieldLife] chant for Navaratri

2013-10-05 Thread Share Long
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIrJ9-VRv24


RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread doctordumbass













Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread Share Long
iranitea, thank you and I do consider myself very fortunate. I think becoming 
totally free of the prison of ignorance can take lifetimes and I'm not yet 
completely free of that prison. And maybe the most dire prison of all is 
thinking we are free when we're not.
Anyway, happy nine nights of Mother Divine. Blessings of Mother Divine on you 
always. The next three days, blessings of MahaDurga. Be kind to warrior women! 





 From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI 
arrests Silk Road suspect
 


  
Oh thanks Share. I like to be corrected, if it's not used as an opportunity for 
a put down, as it has been happening so often.

Share, I really liked your comment about the PR anniversary. I like that you 
don't give in to all the collective pressure, of some of the group members 
here, that you are in fact NOT back peddling. I like you to know, that I am 
completely with you on this issue. PR is a strong word, but I do think that it 
was needed, and can well be understood. Don't give in to some wrong understood 
political correctness, which is basically the argument of your opponents. You 
are the one who clearly felt and perceived the kind of unwanted intrusion, and 
it is you who have to draw the red line. All the bad mouthing of your character 
is rubbish, you have not been the intruder in this regard. You had to deal here 
with a master manipulator - and you were able to see through this, and free 
yourself from that influence. Sometimes you have to step out of a prison, to 
realize you have been in a prison. There are prisons of mental concepts and 
conditionings. To free oneself from
 these may sometimes take years or decades. It doesn't matter how long you were 
exposed to these concepts, they may still take roots in you - obviously many 
have a hard time to get rid of this. Consider yourself lucky!

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


iranitea, usually people say back peddling, like on a bicycle. But I like back 
paddling too. Like in a boat. I also could go for, on a rainy day, back 
puddling, that is, jumping backwards into a puddle (-:





 From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 11:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk 
Road suspect
 


  
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Iranitea, now truly desperate to score a point:

 But have you ever considered, that you don't know anything about what you are 
 talking
 about?


You mean, as to whether Barry knows about the Dark Web? I'm not certain of 
that, of course, which is why I said I don't think Barry knows... See his 
post #359659 to Seraphita and let us know what you think.

Oh, oh, back-paddling



 I mean, you say 'Gracious no' as if it would be illegal or even ethical 
 wrong to use Tor, or
 pages accessible only through it - or encryption in times of almost total 
 Internet surveillance!



Yar. That must be why I posted this to Seraphita (#359600):


There are apparently many thousands of similar sites on the Dark Web. Silk 
Road and Atlantis (which closed down a couple of weeks ago) were only the most 
prominent.


(Disclaimer: I don't use any of 'em, but I've been reading about them; I find 
the whole Dark Web concept fascinating. It's also used, BTW, by legit 
activists and journalists who need to keep their communications secret and 
untraceable. So it isn't inhabited only by Bad Guys selling drugs and guns and 
child porn.)


Opsie...

Ooopsie, then why did you say: Gracious No?

 And, I think, you know as much about 'Spirituality' and 'Sadhana' as you 
 know about Tor and
 PGP. It's something that you are reading about on the internet and then 
 regurgitate it.



Well, I do think you and I have different ideas of what an effective sadhana 
should result in. Repeatedly shooting yourself in the foot and not having the 
minimal humility to laugh at yourself for doing so is not on my list of 
positive outcomes.

Neither mine. Oh, did you say this about me?

 And with regard to you, I do think it's a function of old age.


What is a function of old age?

Now, please spare me a detailed analysis. But it has been pointed out and 
explained to you quite recently by a number of people, most recent one was 
Xeno. You are of course immune to that, which is part of the problem. Now, 
Judy, I do indeed believe, that you basically believe in what you are saying. 
That is to say, to your own conscious awareness, you are truthful. The problem 
is only, that you take your own insights, or opinions for granted, and your 
'intuitions' for facts, which they are not. 

This, together with an increased aggressiveness, and stubbornness, and an 

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread Share Long
Bob, maybe what we need is not a group hug, but a group apology ha ha! I also 
want to acknowledge Richard who DID apologize to MJ. But the flow of Ann's 
sequence stopped there, so what to do? As for me and The Masked Zebra, we did 
apologize to each other, at the very beginning. But neither of us liked how the 
other apologized so that's another knot in the flow. Not sure where that leaves 
you and me vis a vis apologies especially as I'm still unraveling the logic of 
your kind offer:if you need me to apologize to you, for you to apologize to The 
Masked Zebra, then I apologize!



 From: bobpri...@yahoo.com bobpri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect
 


  
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Share 
wrote:


Bob, just like in Vedic cognition, sequence is essential when it comes to FFL 
apologies per Ann: Dear Richard, if you apologize to MJ then I am sure Judy 
might consider 
apologizing to Buck. When Barry apologizes to everybody then Judy might 
consider apologizing to Share. When Share apologizes to Robin then Judy 
might consider apologizing to Steve. An apology to Barry, however, might 
extract a higher price.

If Ann said it, I know its true; if you need me to apologize to you, for you to 
apologize to The Masked Zebra, then I apologize!  And whats this stuff about 
Vegan Ignition (some new type of flatulence Barry discovered)?



[FairfieldLife] Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 Bob, maybe what we need is not a group hug, but a group apology ha ha!

Is that so?

http://users.rider.edu/~suler/zenstory/isthatso.html
http://users.rider.edu/~suler/zenstory/isthatso.html





[FairfieldLife] You're not in love...you're just HDAC-inhibited

2013-10-05 Thread turquoiseb
http://synapticscoop.com/2013/10/02/the-neurobiology-of-cuffing-season-h\
ow-the-brain-influences-monogamy/
http://synapticscoop.com/2013/10/02/the-neurobiology-of-cuffing-season-\
how-the-brain-influences-monogamy/





RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] RE: Reincarnation, guaranteed

2013-10-05 Thread awoelflebater













RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread awoelflebater













RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread awoelflebater













Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread turquoiseb
Doc sez:

 I mentioned earlier that my premium is more than doubling,
 to a completely unsustainable $570/mo., and I am in excellent
 health. I am planning on dropping it, and hoping for the best.

I know what you mean about escalating prices. What
I pay for my health care tripled when I moved to
the Netherlands. Back in France, it cost me 320 Euros...
a year. Here, it costs me more like three times that
amount...on paper, but then the guvmint refunds me
about half that because I'm old. The coverage here
is better, though, including dental, eye care, and all
alternative therapies.

Presented just to point out the difference between
America and civilized nations.





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
Now this is really funny! So, let me apologize to Robin as well, 
although I never had a single conversation with him. I apologize to 
Robin for asking about all those books he wrote extolling the Iranian 
Muslim cleric. Robin, if you are reading this, I'm sorry about that. 
But, what is it with you and the Pope? LoL!


On 10/5/2013 7:11 AM, Share Long wrote:
Bob, maybe what we need is not a group hug, but a group apology ha ha! 
I also want to acknowledge Richard who DID apologize to MJ. But the 
flow of Ann's sequence stopped there, so what to do? As for me and The 
Masked Zebra, we did apologize to each other, at the very beginning. 
But neither of us liked how the other apologized so that's another 
knot in the flow. Not sure where that leaves you and me vis a vis 
apologies especially as I'm still unraveling the logic of your kind 
offer: if you need me to apologize to you, for you to apologize to The 
Masked Zebra, then I apologize!



*From:* bobpri...@yahoo.com bobpri...@yahoo.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 4, 2013 1:22 PM
*Subject:* RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
Share wrote:


Bob, just like in Vedic cognition, sequence is essential when it comes 
to FFL apologies per Ann: Dear Richard, if you apologize to MJ then I 
am sure Judy might consider apologizing to Buck. When Barry apologizes 
to everybody then Judy might consider apologizing to Share. When Share 
apologizes to Robin then Judy might consider apologizing to Steve. An 
apology to Barry, however, might extract a higher price.


If Ann said it, I know its true; if you need me to apologize to you, 
for you to apologize to The Masked Zebra, then I apologize!  And whats 
this stuff about Vegan Ignition (some new type of flatulence Barry 
discovered)?










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2013-10-05 Thread bobpriced













[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread bobpriced













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2013-10-05 Thread authfriend













RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread bobpriced













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread Share Long
Love this story, thanks, turq. ha ha, is that so?





 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 7:34 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 Bob, maybe what we need is not a group hug, but a group apology ha ha! 

Is that so?

http://users.rider.edu/~suler/zenstory/isthatso.html 





RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread bobpriced













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ishvara - The Transcendental Person

2013-10-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
The term 'Isha' refers to Ishvara, the cosmic person, Paramatman or 
Brahman. Ishvara is the supreme controller. According to the Isha, those 
who are engaged in the worship of the demi-Gods enter into the darkest 
region of ignorance, and still more so do the worshipers of the 
impersonal Absolute alone. From what I've read, many of the adherents of 
Vedanta do not espouse the Advaita Vedanta, instead they follow other 
traditions. According to Sri Aurobindo, this Transcendental Person is 
not false - He is real, not an illusion.


So, where exactly did the non-dual notion enter into Indian polemics? If 
most of the seers taught dualism or qualified dualism, where did 
Shankara get the non-dualistic notions? Maybe Shankara got the maya idea 
from the Buddhists up in Kashmir. Go figure.


The term 'Trika' mean three - that comes from the idea that there are 
three levels of consciousness: waking, dreaming, and sleeping, and a 
fourth called the Transcendental state.


4. The Self is transcendental, immortal and beyond the mind and the senses.

Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isha_Upanishad

On 10/4/2013 9:19 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:


I'm not sure what you are claiming by these posting these quotes.


I started reading Autobindo's Life Divine and Synthesis of Yoga in the 
fall of 1966 when I was a freshman in college. After starting TM, we 
couldn't understand why MMY never referenced him. Now we know why. 
Aurobindo never understood Shankara’s Advaita but rather interpreted 
it in terms of 19^th -20^th Century Western Idealist philosophy.



By the way, all your quotes from A.C. Bhaktivendanta simply 
demonstrate how shallow your knowledge of the Gaudiya Vaishnava 
sampradaya is in the larger constellation of Indian darshanas. One of 
my friends was an early disciple of Prabhupad (1968). Over a 20 years 
period he spend 12 years traveling and doing sadhana in India. He also 
did specialized training in Pancharatra Vidhi in Udipi, South India to 
become a Western pujari. In fact he installed my own shivalingam with 
a traditional Pancharatra ceremony, replete with immense devashakti.



I have read Rupa Goswami, have you?


Wiki Willy may look impressive to people who don’t understand the 
principles involved but not much for those know even a little sad-dharma.



Wake up and smell the Prairie Dog ganja.



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete, and because He is 
completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal 
world, are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced 
of the Complete Whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the 
Complete Whole, even though so many complete units emanate from Him, 
He remains the complete balance. 


Invocation:
http://vedabase.com/en/iso

The Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of each. One who knows 
nescience side-by-side with the transcendent, can pass beyond repeated 
birth and death, and can enjoy the full blessings of immortality.


Work cited:

'Isha Upanishad'
Translation by Sri Aurobindo
Sri Aurobindo Ashram Trust
Pondicherry, India 1914

On 10/4/2013 9:03 AM, iranitea wrote:

The commentary of the Isha Upanishad, actually a very short 
Upanishad, was later expanded by Aurobindo and served as the starting 
point of The Life Divine, which is really his magnum opus. You are 
right, he didn't subscribe to Shankaras Kevala, but would call his 
philosophy to be based on Bhedabheda.



Could you say, where you actually cite, and where you paraphrase? I 
didn't find : the Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of each. One 
who knows nescience side-by-side with the transcendent,in his Isha 
commentary.




Richard wrote:

Because many of these good fellows (sadhus) do not ascribe to the 
illusion

theory, 'maya' proposed by the Adi. According to Sri Aurobindo, this
Transcendental Person is not false - He is real, not an illusion.

Isha Upanishad:

The face of Truth is covered with a brilliant
golden lid; that do thou remove O'Fosterer,
for the law of the Truth, for sight. - Isha v 2

The term 'Isha' refers to Ishvara, the cosmic person, Paramatman or
Brahman.
Ishvara is the supreme controller.

Sri Aurobindo wrote that the Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of
each. One
who knows nescience side-by-side with the transcendent, can pass beyond
repeated birth and death, and can enjoy the full blessings of 
immortality.


Work cited:

'Isha Upanishad'
Translation by Sri Aurobindo
Sri Aurobindo Ashram Trust
Pondicherry, India 1914



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:


So, since Krishna is the Absolute, he is in fact 'indescribably
different', (Acyenta
Bheda Bheda). At first this seems to be non-sensical, but if you think
about it,
it makes more sense, and if you remember what MMY said in CBG 1-6.

According to MMY, Lord Krishna is the 'Transcendental 

[FairfieldLife] BlackBerry?

2013-10-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
BlackBerry reportedly in talks with Google, Samsung, and others about 
potential sale.


http://www.theverge.com/blackberry 
http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/4/4804362/blackberry-reportedly-in-talks-with-google-samsung-and-others-about 



[FairfieldLife] iGoogle Will be Shut Down in Less than a Month

2013-10-05 Thread jr_esq













Re: [FairfieldLife] iGoogle Will be Shut Down in Less than a Month

2013-10-05 Thread Bhairitu

Google has so many projects that I never even heard of iGoogle. :-D

The Chrome browser will certainly not effected.  It is a popular browser 
on a number of platforms.  Google has gone a little social networking 
crazy too with things like Google+ which I don't have time for.  I guess 
most people don't work anymore but just do social net working.


On 10/05/2013 08:15 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


But it doesn't appear that the Chrome browser will be affected.  I 
certainly hope so since Chrome is the only way for me to read the 
messages on any Yahoo groups.



http://news.softpedia.com/news/iGoogle-Will-Be-Shut-Down-Time-to-Move-On-279099.shtml





[FairfieldLife] Re: One Outlaw's View Of The Laws Of Nature

2013-10-05 Thread Jason

   
s3raphita replies:
   
snippus interruptus
   
Your question also touches on the issue of the fine-tuning of
the
various constants of physics. It's too improbable that these
values were an accident that just happened to benefit the
creation of intelligent life (in the long run). Alternatives
are:
1) it's a set-up : step forward God; 2) there are an infinite
or very large number of universes : where's the evidence?;
3) there's a feedback mechanism at a subtle level we've yet
to discover.

   --- turquoiseb turquoiseb@.. wrote:
  
   Interesting speculations, but you'll have to forgive me if I
don't
   pile on. I don't find myself very interested in theoretical
discus-
   sions for which no answer can ever be found. It's probably a
   Buddhist/Taoist thang -- we don't spend time pondering why
   the world seems to be the way that it is or coming up with
   made-up explanations for why it is the way that it is. That
   is seen as a waste of time and life. The only thing that matters
   is how to DEAL with the world the way it is.

 below:

 Barry, go all intellectual on us:


  Just to explain a bit further, I see ALL systems proposed
  to explain the how and why of things as human constructs,
  driven by humans' seeming need to feel as if they're on top of
  things and understand them, and to make them feel as if they
  can to some extent predict and/or control them. In other words,
  fantasies.
 
  In this category of fantasies I class all religious explanations
  for the world and how/whether/why it was created, all
  supposed descriptions of karma or the equally-supposed
  Laws Of Nature, all predictive systems such as astrology or
  Jyotish, and all prescriptive systems such as Ayurveda,
  Sthapatya Veda, food trips or fad diets, various healing
  methods, etc.
 
  I have seen ZERO evidence that ANY of these systems --
  including science -- can adequately cover all possible events
  and scenarios, or that they can be relied on to work in all
  cases or for all people. I see them as best guesses, driven
  in many cases by the egos of their proponents, and being
  of (at best) questionable use in the real world.
 
  Therefore I can't justify spending any of the remaining time
  of my life investigating or even discussing any of them, as
  if they mattered.

 --- bobpriced bobpriced@.. wrote:

 Have I got this Wright, according to you, there are no
 laws of: thermodynamics, cosmic expansion, gravitation,
 motion, buoyancy, natural selection; and no proof that:
 fire is hot, water is wet, ice is solid, and, most
 importantly, that you come across like you're as dumb as a
 bag of rocks; this could explain how Winthrop  and Albert
 worked on the non weapon part of an exclusively weapon
 project, when one of them could not get security
 clearance. I'm beginning to think Jason is on to something
 that you have no idea how vacuous you sound: have you ever
 considered the possible link between dementia and
 excessive television viewing (I'm sure the grainy
 production values---of your pirated copies, can't be
 helping)?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOw8aiyMUAU  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOw8aiyMUAU  


The posts of Bob Price have a laser like precision. He also
fires those lasers in a wide range of colors, colored beyond
the wildest hues of the rainbow.

Barry is like a rabbit caught in a headlights of a car.

Imagine what happens when the driver is Judy.

There are definite laws of nature. The proper methodology of
science was developed by Galileo, by conducting the first
true experiment. The Scientific methodology is comparatively
recent and before that there was no real science at all.




  As noted above, I tend to have a more
  pragmatic approach to spirituality. Theory -- whether
  spouted by scientists or supposed seers -- will always be
  theory, and nothing more. What's the point of arguing
  about that which can never be proven one way or another?
 
  The world is and will always be a constant field of change.
  Humans who believe they've got a handle on that change
  have a really terrible track record of being correct. So
  why bother with them? Why not focus on ways to become
  more capable of DEALING WITH constant, unpredictable
  change, rather than trying (ineffectively) to predict or
  explain it?
 
  Just my opinion...




Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread Bhairitu
Yeah, like socialism for the rich (government bailouts) and capitalism 
for the poor (drown in debt).  The right wing doesn't want to pay for 
Obamacare and we progressives don't like it because we want what you 
have in Canada.  I don't know why the latter has to be so difficult to do.


I'm on Medicare so I'm actually out of the picture.  But for the next 
few weeks starting just the other day when a hefty booklet arrived from 
the guvmint apparently designed to confuse seniors and make Medicare 
more complicated than it needs to be.  Then junk mail pouring in from 
health insurance companies trying to sell me Medicare supplemental 
policies.  I tell you the snake oil salesmen went from selling snake oil 
to pharmaceuticals and health insurance.


On 10/04/2013 07:04 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:


I gotta tell you I do not, for the life of me, understand why 
Americans are belly aching about a new health care set up in the US. 
Nothing could be any more expensive and out of reach for the average 
American than it is now. I think if the damn thing ever passes all 
this fear-mongering and whining will prove unjustified. Christ, I hear 
some people are even afraid the US will become a (gasp) socialistic 
society as a result. I've got news for you guys, you already are.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


Most people don't know how much the Obamacare health insurance is 
going to cost them. But, many younger people, who currently have no 
insurance, are going to find out how much real soon. For a guy who is 
healthy, never get sick, and who seldom visits a doctor, the amount 
may come as a shock, even if it's only $150 a month.


The rent is too damn high!

I'm on medicare and Rita is on my group plan - mine costs about $100 
out of my SS check and we send a check for $350 to United Health.


The rent is too damn high!

If you skip the insurance, you’ll pay a penalty. For 2014 the fine is 
$95 for an individual or 1 percent of your income, whichever is 
greater, along with $47.50 per uninsured child, maxing out at $285 for 
the year.


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/not-planning-buy-health-insurance 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/not-planning-buy-health-insurance-111054106.html



On 10/4/2013 9:47 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:

Geez William, give these poor businesses a break. They have to pay 
for all that Obamacare now. Premiums are going up, up and up. 
Somebaody's got to pay for all that free healthcare.


*From:* Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@...
*To:* Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*Sent:* Friday, October 4, 2013 7:27 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!
So, when I returned the two cable boxes to Time-Warner and to terminate
the HD and DVR service, I asked them how much would it cost just to have
basic cable. The guy said they would have to send out a technician to
put a 'trap' on the line to filter out the other channels, so I told
them to close the account. It's Friday and the cable is still active,
but I have powered antennas from the Shack anyway. Go figure.

The rent is too damn high!

This week I took my daughter's PT Cruiser in to the dealership because
she said the front was 'wobbling' at 35-40 mph. The service manager
called back and said one of the front tires had a 'ball' on it. He
recommended getting four new Goodyear Eagles, balanced and a front end
alignment - $950. What!?

Now, why would anyone want to pay close to $1000 to put Goodyear Eagles
back on the same car that already had a Goodyear tire with a ball on it
at 30,000 miles? So, I had the tires rotated, front to back, for $15 on
the south side, sweet!. Maybe I'll buy two new Falken tires at Discount
Tires. Go figure.

The rent is too damn high!







[FairfieldLife] RE: Ishvara - The Transcendental Person

2013-10-05 Thread emptybill













Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread Bhairitu

On 10/05/2013 06:57 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


Doc sez:

 I mentioned earlier that my premium is more than doubling,
 to a completely unsustainable $570/mo., and I am in excellent
 health. I am planning on dropping it, and hoping for the best.

I know what you mean about escalating prices. What
I pay for my health care tripled when I moved to
the Netherlands. Back in France, it cost me 320 Euros...
a year. Here, it costs me more like three times that
amount...on paper, but then the guvmint refunds me
about half that because I'm old. The coverage here
is better, though, including dental, eye care, and all
alternative therapies.

Presented just to point out the difference between
America and civilized nations.



Here's the funny thing.  You have dummies who don't like to pay for 
other people's health care.  Or so they claim.  But they don't want to 
pay for Obamacare either.  So what happens if they get sick and rack up 
huge medical bills?  We wind up paying for them.  In fact I already 
being gouged by Blue Cross the past decade and them not having to pay 
out a single claim.  Only in 2000 when I had cataract surgery by the 
best specialist in the Bay Area did they have to pay out and at that the 
bill equaled what I paid in premiums.  Like Willy would say: go figure.


I'm on Medicare now and it hasn't needed to pay out any claims either.







[FairfieldLife] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

2013-10-05 Thread s3raphita













RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread awoelflebater













RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread awoelflebater













Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread Share Long
yep, noozguru I received my Medicare *book* too.  I wonder how much it cost to 
print and how many people are actually going to read it. I do feel for the 
older seniors trying to figure all this out. 
I haven't gotten any junk mail but yesterday I got a phone call from someone 
who wanted to explain my Medicare options to me! At first I was taken aback, I 
didn't understand why he was calling given that I've been on Medicare since 
June 1! He persisted even when I said I already had my supplemental! Anyway, 
finally I said thank you, goodbye and quickly hung up. 
OTOH, tough job, making that kind of call. 





 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!
 


  
Yeah, like socialism for the rich (government bailouts) and capitalism for the 
poor (drown in debt).  The right wing doesn't want to pay for Obamacare and we 
progressives don't like it because we want what you have in Canada.  I don't 
know why the latter has to be so difficult to do.  

I'm on Medicare so I'm actually out of the picture.  But for the
  next few weeks starting just the other day when a hefty booklet
  arrived from the guvmint apparently designed to confuse seniors
  and make Medicare more complicated than it needs to be.  Then junk
  mail pouring in from health insurance companies trying to sell me
  Medicare supplemental policies.  I tell you the snake oil salesmen
  went from selling snake oil to pharmaceuticals and health
  insurance.

On 10/04/2013 07:04 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
 
I gotta tell you I do not, for the life of me, understand why Americans are 
belly aching about a new health care set up in the US. Nothing could be any 
more expensive and out of reach for the average American than it is now. I 
think if the damn thing ever passes all this fear-mongering and whining will 
prove unjustified. Christ, I hear some people are even afraid the US will 
become a (gasp) socialistic society as a result. I've got news for you guys, 
you already are. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Most people don't know how much the Obamacare health insurance is going to 
cost them. But, many younger people, who currently have no insurance, are 
going to find out how much real soon. For a guy who is healthy, never get 
sick, and who seldom visits a doctor, the amount may come as a shock, even if 
it's only $150 a month.

The rent is too damn high!

I'm on medicare and Rita is on my group plan - mine
  costs about $100 out of my SS check and we send a
  check for $350 to United Health. 

The rent is too damn high!

If you skip the insurance, you’ll pay a penalty. For
  2014 the fine is $95 for an individual or 1 percent of
  your income, whichever is greater, along with $47.50
  per uninsured child, maxing out at $285 for the year.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/not-planning-buy-health-insurance



On 10/4/2013 9:47 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:

  
Geez William, give these poor businesses a break. They have to pay for all 
that Obamacare now. Premiums are going up, up and up. Somebaody's got to pay 
for all that free healthcare.


From: Richard J. Williams punditster@...
To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 7:27 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!
 
  
So, when I returned the two cable boxes to Time-Warner and to terminate 
the HD and DVR service, I asked
them how much would it cost just
to have 
basic cable. The guy said they
would have to send out a
technician to 
put a 'trap' on the line to
filter out the other channels,
so I told 
them to close the account. It's
Friday and the cable is still
active, 
but I have powered antennas from
the Shack anyway. Go figure.

The rent is too damn high!

This week I took my daughter's
PT Cruiser in to the dealership
because 
she said the front was
'wobbling' at 35-40 mph. The
service manager 
called back and said one of the
front tires had a 'ball' on it.
He 
recommended getting four new
Goodyear Eagles, balanced and a
front end 
alignment - $950. What!?


[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: One Outlaw#39;s View Of The Laws Of Nature

2013-10-05 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread Richard J. Williams

It didn't take long for this thread to go down the rabbit hole. Go figure.

'Imam and His Islamic Revolution: A Journey into Heaven and Hell'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1982

'Seventeen Days in Tehran: Revolution, Evolution and Ignorance'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen (Dec 1980)
Snow Man Press, 1980

'A Personal Meeting with Ayatollah Khomeini: Islam and the Self'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1980

'Crisis in Iran: A microcosm of the cosmic play'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press; 2nd edition 1979

On 10/5/2013 9:24 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


*One book, actually (very short, more like a long essay)--30 years 
ago--which he has explicitly and forcefully repudiated right here on 
FFL. So you can apologize to him for getting this wrong as well.*


*
*

(The Iranian Muslim cleric whose name Richard can't remember: 
Ayatollah Khomeini.)


*
Richard wrote:
*
Now this is really funny! So, let me apologize to Robin as well, 
although I never had a single conversation with him. I apologize to 
Robin for asking about all those books he wrote extolling the Iranian 
Muslim cleric. Robin, if you are reading this, I'm sorry about that. 
But, what is it with you and the Pope? LoL!



. 




[FairfieldLife] Barack Hussein Osama has now quot;closedquot; the Ocean

2013-10-05 Thread emptybill













Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
Five outside technology experts interviewed by Reuters, however, say 
they believe flaws in system architecture, not traffic alone, 
contributed to the problems.


'Analysis: IT experts question architecture of Obamacare website'
Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/healthcare-technology-technology 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/04/us-usa-healthcare-technology-technology-idUSBRE99312620131004


On 10/5/2013 8:57 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


Doc sez:

 I mentioned earlier that my premium is more than doubling,
 to a completely unsustainable $570/mo., and I am in excellent
 health. I am planning on dropping it, and hoping for the best.

I know what you mean about escalating prices. What
I pay for my health care tripled when I moved to
the Netherlands. Back in France, it cost me 320 Euros...
a year. Here, it costs me more like three times that
amount...on paper, but then the guvmint refunds me
about half that because I'm old. The coverage here
is better, though, including dental, eye care, and all
alternative therapies.

Presented just to point out the difference between
America and civilized nations.






RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] This is the last message in this thread, was Ishvara - The Transcendental Person

2013-10-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
It didn't take very long for this thread to go down a shallow 'Prairie 
Dog' hole. LoL!


On 10/5/2013 11:12 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:


You are only able to repeat ad nauseum you shallow assertions.

This is more high school report quality.


Them other eyes seeming to stare at you are your own.

There's a mirror down in the Prairie Dog hole and yer
obviously making him nervous.

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

The term 'Isha' refers to Ishvara, the cosmic person, Paramatman or 
Brahman. Ishvara is the supreme controller. According to the Isha, 
those who are engaged in the worship of the demi-Gods enter into the 
darkest region of ignorance, and still more so do the worshipers of 
the impersonal Absolute alone. From what I've read, many of the 
adherents of Vedanta do not espouse the Advaita Vedanta, instead they 
follow other traditions. According to Sri Aurobindo, this 
Transcendental Person is not false - He is real, not an illusion.


So, where exactly did the non-dual notion enter into Indian polemics? 
If most of the seers taught dualism or qualified dualism, where did 
Shankara get the non-dualistic notions? Maybe Shankara got the maya 
idea from the Buddhists up in Kashmir. Go figure.


The term 'Trika' mean three - that comes from the idea that there are 
three levels of consciousness: waking, dreaming, and sleeping, and a 
fourth called the Transcendental state.


4. The Self is transcendental, immortal and beyond the mind and the 
senses.


Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isha_Upanishad

On 10/4/2013 9:19 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:


I'm not sure what you are claiming by these posting these quotes.


I started reading Autobindo's Life Divine and Synthesis of Yoga in 
the fall of 1966 when I was a freshman in college. After starting TM, 
we couldn't understand why MMY never referenced him. Now we know why. 
Aurobindo never understood Shankara’s Advaita but rather interpreted 
it in terms of 19^th -20^th Century Western Idealist philosophy.



By the way, all your quotes from A.C. Bhaktivendanta simply 
demonstrate how shallow your knowledge of the Gaudiya Vaishnava 
sampradaya is in the larger constellation of Indian darshanas. One of 
my friends was an early disciple of Prabhupad (1968). Over a 20 years 
period he spend 12 years traveling and doing sadhana in India. He 
also did specialized training in Pancharatra Vidhi in Udipi, South 
India to become a Western pujari. In fact he installed my own 
shivalingam with a traditional Pancharatra ceremony, replete with 
immense devashakti.



I have read Rupa Goswami, have you?


Wiki Willy may look impressive to people who don’t understand the 
principles involved but not much for those know even a little 
sad-dharma.



Wake up and smell the Prairie Dog ganja.



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:


The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete, and because He 
is completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this 
phenomenal world, are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever 
is produced of the Complete Whole is also complete in itself. Because 
He is the Complete Whole, even though so many complete units emanate 
from Him, He remains the complete balance. 


Invocation:
http://vedabase.com/en/iso

The Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of each. One who knows 
nescience side-by-side with the transcendent, can pass beyond 
repeated birth and death, and can enjoy the full blessings of 
immortality.


Work cited:

'Isha Upanishad'
Translation by Sri Aurobindo
Sri Aurobindo Ashram Trust
Pondicherry, India 1914

On 10/4/2013 9:03 AM, iranitea wrote:

The commentary of the Isha Upanishad, actually a very short 
Upanishad, was later expanded by Aurobindo and served as the 
starting point of The Life Divine, which is really his magnum opus. 
You are right, he didn't subscribe to Shankaras Kevala, but would 
call his philosophy to be based on Bhedabheda.



Could you say, where you actually cite, and where you paraphrase? I 
didn't find : the Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of each. One 
who knows nescience side-by-side with the transcendent,in his Isha 
commentary.




Richard wrote:

Because many of these good fellows (sadhus) do not ascribe to the 
illusion

theory, 'maya' proposed by the Adi. According to Sri Aurobindo, this
Transcendental Person is not false - He is real, not an illusion.

Isha Upanishad:

The face of Truth is covered with a brilliant
golden lid; that do thou remove O'Fosterer,
for the law of the Truth, for sight. - Isha v 2

The term 'Isha' refers to Ishvara, the cosmic person, Paramatman or
Brahman.
Ishvara is the supreme controller.

Sri Aurobindo wrote that the Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of
each. One
who knows nescience side-by-side with the transcendent, can pass beyond
repeated birth and death, and can enjoy the full blessings of 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Hayseed Jokes

2013-10-05 Thread punditster













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
However, Robin's books are more like pamphlets instead of books. He 
could probably have written tomes if he wanted to, maybe he still will. 
But, I am impressed that he self-published his own writings.


Others writings of interest:

'From Ignorance to Enlightenment: An Autobiography'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1980

'On First Meeting Werner Erhard and Est: A Memoir of Deliberate 
Affirmation'

By Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1980

'An Open Letter to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1981)

'Enigma of an Absolute: The Consciousness of Ludwig Wittgenstein'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1986

'Journey Into the Personal: Letters of an Enlightened Man'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1978

'The Final Heresy'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1980

'Intelligence of the Heart: Letters of Robin Woodsworth Carlsen'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1986

'What Is Enlightenment: Sutras of the Personal'
By Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1979

'Anatomy of a Civilization'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1980

'Wings of a Snow Man: Wallace Stevens'
Adagia With Commentary
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1986

On 10/5/2013 12:33 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


Ooops, you're right, sorry about that. (Not sure all four books are 
all about extolling the Iranian Muslim cleric, though.)




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


It didn't take long for this thread to go down the rabbit hole. Go figure.

'Imam and His Islamic Revolution: A Journey into Heaven and Hell'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1982

'Seventeen Days in Tehran: Revolution, Evolution and Ignorance'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen (Dec 1980)
Snow Man Press, 1980

'A Personal Meeting with Ayatollah Khomeini: Islam and the Self'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press, 1980

'Crisis in Iran: A microcosm of the cosmic play'
by Robin Woodsworth Carlsen
Snow Man Press; 2nd edition 1979

On 10/5/2013 9:24 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

*One book, actually (very short, more like a long essay)--30 years 
ago--which he has explicitly and forcefully repudiated right here on 
FFL. So you can apologize to him for getting this wrong as well.*


*
*

(The Iranian Muslim cleric whose name Richard can't remember: 
Ayatollah Khomeini.)


*
Richard wrote:
*
Now this is really funny! So, let me apologize to Robin as well, 
although I never had a single conversation with him. I apologize to 
Robin for asking about all those books he wrote extolling the Iranian 
Muslim cleric. Robin, if you are reading this, I'm sorry about that. 
But, what is it with you and the Pope? LoL!


. 







RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] This is the last message in this thread, was Ishvara - The Transcendental Person

2013-10-05 Thread Share Long
I think in honor of the cool article turq posted today, we should henceforth 
speak only of prairie voles' holes (-:

http://synapticscoop.com/2013/10/02/the-neurobiology-of-cuffing-season-how-the-brain-influences-monogamy/
 




 From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com
To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 12:35 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] This is the last message in this thread, was Ishvara - 
The Transcendental Person
 


  
It didn't take very long for this thread to go down a shallow 'Prairie Dog' 
hole. LoL!

On 10/5/2013 11:12 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
You are only able to repeat ad nauseum you shallow assertions.
This is more high school report quality. 



Them other eyes seeming to stare at you are your own.

There's a mirror down in the Prairie Dog hole and yer
obviously making him nervous.  

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:


The term 'Isha' refers to Ishvara, the cosmic person, Paramatman or Brahman. 
Ishvara is the supreme controller. According to the Isha, those who are 
engaged in the worship of the demi-Gods enter into the darkest region of 
ignorance, and still more so do the worshipers of the impersonal Absolute 
alone. From what I've read, many of the adherents of Vedanta do not espouse 
the Advaita Vedanta, instead they follow other traditions. According to Sri 
Aurobindo, this Transcendental Person is not false - He is real, not an 
illusion. 

So, where exactly did the non-dual notion enter into
  Indian polemics? If most of the seers taught dualism
  or qualified dualism, where did Shankara get the
  non-dualistic notions? Maybe Shankara got the maya
  idea from the Buddhists up in Kashmir. Go figure.

The term 'Trika' mean three - that comes from the idea
  that there are three levels of consciousness: waking,
  dreaming, and sleeping, and a fourth called the
  Transcendental state.

4. The Self is transcendental, immortal and beyond the
  mind and the senses.

Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isha_Upanishad


On 10/4/2013 9:19 PM, emptybill@... wrote:

  
 
I'm not sure what you are claiming by these posting these quotes.


I started reading Autobindo's Life Divine and Synthesis of Yoga in the fall 
of 1966 when I was a freshman in college. After starting TM, we couldn't 
understand why MMY never referenced him. Now we know why. Aurobindo never 
understood Shankara’s Advaita but rather interpreted it in terms of 19th-20th 
Century Western Idealist philosophy. 



By the way, all your quotes from A.C. Bhaktivendanta simply demonstrate how 
shallow your knowledge of the Gaudiya Vaishnava sampradaya is in the larger 
constellation of Indian darshanas. One of my friends was an early disciple of 
Prabhupad (1968). Over a 20 years period he spend 12 years traveling and 
doing sadhana in India. He also did specialized training in Pancharatra Vidhi 
in Udipi, South India to become a Western pujari. In fact he installed my own 
shivalingam with a traditional Pancharatra ceremony, replete with immense 
devashakti. 



I have read Rupa Goswami, have you? 



Wiki Willy may look impressive to people who don’t understand the principles 
involved but not much for those know even a little sad-dharma. 



Wake up and smell the Prairie Dog ganja. 


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:


The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete, and because He is 
completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, 
are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced of the 
Complete Whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the Complete Whole, 
even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete 
balance. 

Invocation:
http://vedabase.com/en/iso

The Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of
  each. One who knows nescience side-by-side
  with the transcendent, can pass beyond
  repeated birth and death, and can enjoy the
  full blessings of immortality. 

Work cited:

'Isha Upanishad'
Translation by Sri Aurobindo 
Sri Aurobindo Ashram Trust
Pondicherry, India 1914 


On 10/4/2013 9:03 AM, iranitea wrote:

  
The commentary of the Isha Upanishad, actually a very short Upanishad, was 
later expanded by Aurobindo and served as the starting point of The Life 
Divine, which is really his magnum opus. You are right, he didn't subscribe 
to Shankaras Kevala, but would call his philosophy to be based on Bhedabheda.


Could  you say, where you actually cite, and where you paraphrase? I didn't 
find : the Ultimate Reality is two fulls - 200% of each. One who knows 
nescience side-by-side with the transcendent,in his Isha commentary.





Richard wrote:
Because many of these 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] iGoogle Will be Shut Down in Less than a Month

2013-10-05 Thread jr_esq













[FairfieldLife] http://www.infowars.com/four-legged-darpa-funded-running-war-robot-unveiled-video/

2013-10-05 Thread emptybill













[FairfieldLife] Carmina Burana by Carl Orff

2013-10-05 Thread jr_esq













Re: [FairfieldLife] Barack Hussein Osama has now closed the Ocean

2013-10-05 Thread Share Long
The government will probably use more personnel and spend
more resources to attempt to close the ocean, than it would in its normal
course of business. 
Question for emptybill: what to do as those in charge show more and more 
evidence of being looney?!




 From: emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 12:09 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Barack Hussein Osama has now closed the Ocean
 


  
Feds Try to
Close the OCEAN Because of Shutdown
by Mike
Flynn 5 Oct 2013, 7:08 AM PDT 


Just
before the weekend, the National Park Service informed
charter boat captains in Florida that the Florida Bay was
closed due to the shutdown. Until government funding is restored,
the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of
open ocean. Fishing is also prohibited at Biscayne National Park during the
shutdown. 


The Park Service will also have rangers on duty to police the ban. Of
access to an ocean. The government will probably use more personnel and spend
more resources to attempt to close the ocean, than it would in its normal
course of business. 


This is governing by temper-tantrum. It is on par with the government's
ham-fisted attempts to close the DC WWII Memorial, an open-air public monument
that is normally accessible 24 hours a day. By accessible I mean, you walk up
to it. When you have finished reflecting, you then walk away from it. 


At least that Memorial is an actual structure, with some kind of
perimeter that can be fenced off. Florida Bay is the ocean. How, pray tell, do
you close 1,100 square miles of ocean? Why would one even need to
do so?

Apparently, according to
an anonymous Park Service ranger, “We’ve been told to make life as
difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.” 


Centuries ago, King Canute famously failed to command the ocean tide to
stop. His display was actually a means to educate his subjects on the limits of
royal power. Today, however, our President actually believes he has the power
to control the oceans. 


Re: [FairfieldLife] iGoogle Will be Shut Down in Less than a Month

2013-10-05 Thread Bhairitu
I can tell it is a Web 2.0 redesign and set up to accommodate mobile 
devices better which is  growing while PC use is diminishing.  I can't 
get Neo when I'm logged in so have no experience of it as a user just a 
visitor.  This design is also used on their other sites like Yahoo 
News.   Neo locks up with the Android version of Chrome but it's okay on 
Linux. Looking at Neo page source there is a lot of stuff that usually 
would be hidden by keeping the Javascript and CSS on the server side so 
it's a beta at the moment.


On 10/05/2013 11:18 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


 That's nice to know.  But that brings the question of why Yahoo is 
still playing with this Neo debacle which doesn't work with my Windows 
7 version.



I have the feeling Yahoo wants us to use the very latest version of 
Windows, which I have not downloaded so far.



In the end, Yahoo has only shown that Chrome is the most effective and 
advanced browser around IMO.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


Google has so many projects that I never even heard of iGoogle. :-D

The Chrome browser will certainly not effected.  It is a popular 
browser on a number of platforms.  Google has gone a little social 
networking crazy too with things like Google+ which I don't have time 
for.  I guess most people don't work anymore but just do social net 
working.


On 10/05/2013 08:15 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote:

But it doesn't appear that the Chrome browser will be affected.  I 
certainly hope so since Chrome is the only way for me to read the 
messages on any Yahoo groups.



http://news.softpedia.com/news/iGoogle-Will-Be-Shut-Down-Time-to-Move-On-279099.shtml







Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread Bhairitu
What  would you expect from a site probably done by the lowest bidding 
contractor?  Plus early users are really beta testers.


On 10/05/2013 10:10 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Five outside technology experts interviewed by Reuters, however, say 
they believe flaws in system architecture, not traffic alone, 
contributed to the problems.


'Analysis: IT experts question architecture of Obamacare website'
Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/healthcare-technology-technology 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/04/us-usa-healthcare-technology-technology-idUSBRE99312620131004


On 10/5/2013 8:57 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


Doc sez:

 I mentioned earlier that my premium is more than doubling,
 to a completely unsustainable $570/mo., and I am in excellent
 health. I am planning on dropping it, and hoping for the best.

I know what you mean about escalating prices. What
I pay for my health care tripled when I moved to
the Netherlands. Back in France, it cost me 320 Euros...
a year. Here, it costs me more like three times that
amount...on paper, but then the guvmint refunds me
about half that because I'm old. The coverage here
is better, though, including dental, eye care, and all
alternative therapies.

Presented just to point out the difference between
America and civilized nations.








Re: [FairfieldLife] BlackBerry?

2013-10-05 Thread Bhairitu
BlackBerry was popular among the business class who are usually pretty 
tech illiterate.  It did go over so well with the consumer class 
especially millennials who want to replace their  PCs and Macs with 
smart phones.


Tips for smart phone  purchasers.  Get a service that has GSM not CDMA.  
The latter is hardwired into your phone.  This makes it about impossible 
to sell no contract phones.  GSM uses SIM cards. In other countries 
people might even have prepay plans from two or more services and switch 
out the SiM cards as needed.  In the US ATT and T-Mobile use GSM as 
well as some other regional and local carriers.  Verizon and Sprint use 
CDMA.


The advantage of a GSM phone is you can buy it anywhere.  I paid $350 
for my Google Nexus phone last year (which BTW the current comparable 
version is only $200) direct from Google.  I signed on for the T-Mobile 
$30 a month prepay and simply put their SIM card in the phone.  Under 
contract where you might pay $100 for the phone they would list it as a 
$600 phone which of course is marketing BS.  My neighbor just bought a 
new Android phone from Sprint and was pissed she had to pay the full 
retail sales tax (another catch 22).  With contract phones you more than 
pay the price if you had bought it off contract.  BTW, carriers in  most 
other countries don't do contract phones.


On 10/05/2013 07:38 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


BlackBerry reportedly in talks with Google, Samsung, and others about 
potential sale.


http://www.theverge.com/blackberry 
http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/4/4804362/blackberry-reportedly-in-talks-with-google-samsung-and-others-about 








Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread Bhairitu
The Canadian health care bill was only a few pages long and Obamacare 
over 2000 pages.  Obamacare was a plan put together by the Heritage 
Foundation (yup, a conservative think tank).


Americans are being treated like chickens in a hen house.  If the dollar 
collapses which it eventually will, they can blame it on Obamacare 
rather that the criminal acts of the big banks.


On 10/05/2013 09:21 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


Yeah, like socialism for the rich (government bailouts) and capitalism 
for the poor (drown in debt).  The right wing doesn't want to pay for 
Obamacare and we progressives don't like it because we want what you 
have in Canada.  I don't know why the latter has to be so difficult to 
do.


I'm on Medicare so I'm actually out of the picture. But for the next 
few weeks starting just the other day when a hefty booklet arrived 
from the guvmint apparently designed to confuse seniors and make 
Medicare more complicated than it needs to be.  Then junk mail pouring 
in from health insurance companies trying to sell me Medicare 
supplemental policies.  I tell you the snake oil salesmen went from 
selling snake oil to pharmaceuticals and health insurance.


I sincerely believe the medical industry, including all the elements 
that comprise it - insurance companies, pharmaceutical conglomerates, 
not to mention doctors themselves, are some of the (if not THE) 
biggest scammers/thieves around. The true cost to do business when it 
comes to applying/practicing and developing medicine is nowhere near 
what we, as consumers, are charged. At the risk of sounding like some 
proselytizer, it is blasphemous and outrageous. Unfortunately all of 
us get sick or injured at some point in our lives.


On 10/04/2013 07:04 PM, awoelflebater@...
mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:

I gotta tell you I do not, for the life of me, understand why 
Americans are belly aching about a new health care set up in the US. 
Nothing could be any more expensive and out of reach for the average 
American than it is now. I think if the damn thing ever passes all 
this fear-mongering and whining will prove unjustified. Christ, I 
hear some people are even afraid the US will become a (gasp) 
socialistic society as a result. I've got news for you guys, you 
already are.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Most people don't know how much the Obamacare health insurance is 
going to cost them. But, many younger people, who currently have no 
insurance, are going to find out how much real soon. For a guy who is 
healthy, never get sick, and who seldom visits a doctor, the amount 
may come as a shock, even if it's only $150 a month.


The rent is too damn high!

I'm on medicare and Rita is on my group plan - mine costs about $100 
out of my SS check and we send a check for $350 to United Health.


The rent is too damn high!

If you skip the insurance, you’ll pay a penalty. For 2014 the fine 
is $95 for an individual or 1 percent of your income, whichever is 
greater, along with $47.50 per uninsured child, maxing out at $285 
for the year.


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/not-planning-buy-health-insurance 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/not-planning-buy-health-insurance-111054106.html



On 10/4/2013 9:47 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:

Geez William, give these poor businesses a break. They have to pay 
for all that Obamacare now. Premiums are going up, up and up. 
Somebaody's got to pay for all that free healthcare.


*From:* Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@...
*To:* Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*Sent:* Friday, October 4, 2013 7:27 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!
So, when I returned the two cable boxes to Time-Warner and to terminate
the HD and DVR service, I asked them how much would it cost just to 
have

basic cable. The guy said they would have to send out a technician to
put a 'trap' on the line to filter out the other channels, so I told
them to close the account. It's Friday and the cable is still active,
but I have powered antennas from the Shack anyway. Go figure.

The rent is too damn high!

This week I took my daughter's PT Cruiser in to the dealership because
she said the front was 'wobbling' at 35-40 mph. The service manager
called back and said one of the front tires had a 'ball' on it. He
recommended getting four new Goodyear Eagles, balanced and a front end
alignment - $950. What!?

Now, why would anyone want to pay close to $1000 to put Goodyear Eagles
back on the same car that already had a Goodyear tire with a ball on it
at 30,000 miles? So, I had the tires rotated, front to back, for $15 on
the south side, sweet!. Maybe I'll buy two new Falken tires at Discount
Tires. Go figure.

The rent is too damn high!






RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread emptybill













RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] iGoogle Will be Shut Down in Less than a Month

2013-10-05 Thread iranitea













[FairfieldLife] Question for Rick

2013-10-05 Thread Michael Jackson
Question for Rick and anyone else with as much history with the Movement as 
Rick:

Any idea how many former TM Governors went out on their own and set themselves 
up as gurus - or at least as spiritual teachers promising something special?

The ones I am aware of are:  Bob Fickes, Robin Carlsen, Andy Rhymer (tho much 
of his success seemed 
to stem from M's endorsment of his supposed enlightenment) 
Sri Ravi Ravi Shankar, Thom 
Knowles, maybe John Grey might fit in there too - anyone else you can think of?

Thanks!


[FairfieldLife] RE: Ishvara - The Transcendental Person

2013-10-05 Thread iranitea













RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread iranitea













[FairfieldLife] RE: Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

2013-10-05 Thread s3raphita













RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: FBI arrests Silk Road suspect

2013-10-05 Thread iranitea













[FairfieldLife] RE: Barack Hussein Osama has now quot;closedquot; the Ocean

2013-10-05 Thread s3raphita













[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Barack Hussein Osama has now quot;closedquot; the Ocean

2013-10-05 Thread s3raphita













[FairfieldLife] US Commandos Seize al Shabab Leader

2013-10-05 Thread jr_esq













Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!

2013-10-05 Thread Bhairitu
I'm aware of this but it might well be a little tap dancing on 
Heritage's part.  And it might as well have come from them anyway.  It's 
nothing a true progressive would want.


On 10/05/2013 01:24 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:


Forbes Online addressed claims such as yours:


Heritage policy experts never supported an unqualified mandate like 
that in the PPACA [ObamaCare]. Their prior support for a qualified 
mandate was limited to catastrophic coverage (true insurance that is 
precisely what the PPACA forbids), coupled with tax relief for all 
families and other reforms that are conspicuously absent from the 
PPACA. Since then, a growing body of research has provided a strong 
basis to conclude that any government insurance mandate is not only 
unnecessary, but is a bad policy option. Moreover, Heritage’s legal 
scholars have been consistent in explaining that the type of mandate 
in the PPACA is unconstitutional.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


The Canadian health care bill was only a few pages long and Obamacare 
over 2000 pages.  Obamacare was a plan put together by the Heritage 
Foundation (yup, a conservative think tank).


Americans are being treated like chickens in a hen house.  If the 
dollar collapses which it eventually will, they can blame it on 
Obamacare rather that the criminal acts of the big banks.


On 10/05/2013 09:21 AM, awoelflebater@...
mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Yeah, like socialism for the rich (government bailouts) and 
capitalism for the poor (drown in debt).  The right wing doesn't want 
to pay for Obamacare and we progressives don't like it because we 
want what you have in Canada.  I don't know why the latter has to be 
so difficult to do.


I'm on Medicare so I'm actually out of the picture.  But for the 
next few weeks starting just the other day when a hefty booklet 
arrived from the guvmint apparently designed to confuse seniors and 
make Medicare more complicated than it needs to be.  Then junk mail 
pouring in from health insurance companies trying to sell me Medicare 
supplemental policies.  I tell you the snake oil salesmen went from 
selling snake oil to pharmaceuticals and health insurance.


I sincerely believe the medical industry, including all the elements 
that comprise it - insurance companies, pharmaceutical conglomerates, 
not to mention doctors themselves, are some of the (if not THE) 
biggest scammers/thieves around. The true cost to do business when it 
comes to applying/practicing and developing medicine is nowhere near 
what we, as consumers, are charged. At the risk of sounding like some 
proselytizer, it is blasphemous and outrageous. Unfortunately all of 
us get sick or injured at some point in our lives.


On 10/04/2013 07:04 PM, awoelflebater@...
mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:

I gotta tell you I do not, for the life of me, understand why 
Americans are belly aching about a new health care set up in the US. 
Nothing could be any more expensive and out of reach for the average 
American than it is now. I think if the damn thing ever passes all 
this fear-mongering and whining will prove unjustified. Christ, I 
hear some people are even afraid the US will become a (gasp) 
socialistic society as a result. I've got news for you guys, you 
already are.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Most people don't know how much the Obamacare health insurance is 
going to cost them. But, many younger people, who currently have no 
insurance, are going to find out how much real soon. For a guy who 
is healthy, never get sick, and who seldom visits a doctor, the 
amount may come as a shock, even if it's only $150 a month.


The rent is too damn high!

I'm on medicare and Rita is on my group plan - mine costs about $100 
out of my SS check and we send a check for $350 to United Health.


The rent is too damn high!

If you skip the insurance, you’ll pay a penalty. For 2014 the fine 
is $95 for an individual or 1 percent of your income, whichever is 
greater, along with $47.50 per uninsured child, maxing out at $285 
for the year.


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/not-planning-buy-health-insurance 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/not-planning-buy-health-insurance-111054106.html



On 10/4/2013 9:47 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:

Geez William, give these poor businesses a break. They have to pay 
for all that Obamacare now. Premiums are going up, up and up. 
Somebaody's got to pay for all that free healthcare.


*From:* Richard J. Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@...
*To:* Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*Sent:* Friday, October 4, 2013 7:27 AM
*Subject:* 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] BlackBerry?

2013-10-05 Thread j_alexander_stanley













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Re: [FairfieldLife] BlackBerry?

2013-10-05 Thread Bhairitu
But then you are stuck getting phones sfrom US Cellular, correct?  
Pretty much:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp

4G has been here for awhile but then I'm in a metropolitan area. I've 
mentioned before T-Mobile almost put a tower right behind my house.


On 10/05/2013 04:10 PM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote:


One major caveat: before buying a GSM phone, make sure there is good 
enough service from GSM carriers in the area where the phone will be 
used. In Fairfield, GSM networks suck, like phones not being able to 
make or receive calls in certain buildings, dropped calls, and huge 
swaths of rural Iowa with no coverage at all. I'm with US Cellular, 
which is CDMA, and they have blanket coverage over the entire region; 
they've also had 4G out here for about a year already.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


BlackBerry was popular among the business class who are usually pretty 
tech illiterate.  It did go over so well with the consumer class 
especially millennials who want to replace their  PCs and Macs with 
smart phones.


Tips for smart phone  purchasers.  Get a service that has GSM not 
CDMA.  The latter is hardwired into your phone.  This makes it about 
impossible to sell no contract phones.  GSM uses SIM cards.  In other 
countries people might even have prepay plans from two or more 
services and switch out the SiM cards as needed.  In the US ATT and 
T-Mobile use GSM as well as some other regional and local carriers. 
Verizon and Sprint use CDMA.


The advantage of a GSM phone is you can buy it anywhere.  I paid $350 
for my Google Nexus phone last year (which BTW the current comparable 
version is only $200) direct from Google.  I signed on for the 
T-Mobile $30 a month prepay and simply put their SIM card in the 
phone.  Under contract where you might pay $100 for the phone they 
would list it as a $600 phone which of course is marketing BS.  My 
neighbor just bought a new Android phone from Sprint and was pissed 
she had to pay the full retail sales tax (another catch 22).  With 
contract phones you more than pay the price if you had bought it off 
contract.  BTW, carriers in  most other countries don't do contract 
phones.


On 10/05/2013 07:38 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

BlackBerry reportedly in talks with Google, Samsung, and others about 
potential sale.


http://www.theverge.com/blackberry 
http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/4/4804362/blackberry-reportedly-in-talks-with-google-samsung-and-others-about 










[FairfieldLife] BLT-report on american Crop Circle

2013-10-05 Thread nablusoss1008













[FairfieldLife] RE: US Commandos Seize al Shabab Leader

2013-10-05 Thread nablusoss1008













Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] BlackBerry?

2013-10-05 Thread Michael Jackson
Are you sure about that? Maybe the phones drop their calls when they realize 
the phone's owner is walking around in a building with a south facing entrance. 





 From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 7:10 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] BlackBerry?
 


  
One major caveat: before buying a GSM phone, make sure there is good enough 
service from GSM carriers in the area where the phone will be used. In 
Fairfield, GSM networks suck, like phones not being able to make or receive 
calls in certain buildings, dropped calls, and huge swaths of rural Iowa with 
no coverage at all. I'm with US Cellular, which is CDMA, and they have blanket 
coverage over the entire region; they've also had 4G out here for about a year 
already. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


BlackBerry was popular among the business class who are usually pretty tech 
illiterate.  It did go over so well with the consumer class especially 
millennials who want to replace their  PCs and Macs with smart phones.

Tips for smart phone  purchasers.  Get a service that has GSM not
  CDMA.  The latter is hardwired into your phone.  This makes it
  about impossible to sell no contract phones.  GSM uses SIM cards. 
  In other countries people might even have prepay plans from two or
  more services and switch out the SiM cards as needed.  In the US
  ATT and T-Mobile use GSM as well as some other regional and
  local carriers.  Verizon and Sprint use CDMA.

The advantage of a GSM phone is you can buy it anywhere.  I paid
  $350 for my Google Nexus phone last year (which BTW the current
  comparable version is only $200) direct from Google.  I signed on
  for the T-Mobile $30 a month prepay and simply put their SIM card
  in the phone.  Under contract where you might pay $100 for the
  phone they would list it as a $600 phone which of course is
  marketing BS.  My neighbor just bought a new Android phone from
  Sprint and was pissed she had to pay the full retail sales tax
  (another catch 22).  With contract phones you more than pay the
  price if you had bought it off contract.  BTW, carriers in  most
  other countries don't do contract phones.


On 10/05/2013 07:38 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

  
BlackBerry reportedly in talks with Google, Samsung, and others about 
potential sale.

http://www.theverge.com/blackberry 



[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: US Commandos Seize al Shabab Leader

2013-10-05 Thread jr_esq













RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] BlackBerry?

2013-10-05 Thread j_alexander_stanley













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: US Commandos Seize al Shabab Leader

2013-10-05 Thread Mike Dixon
Remember, Benghazi was caused by a demonstration due to an offensive 
anti-muslim filmsnicker.

 


 From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 6:12 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: US Commandos Seize al Shabab Leader
  
 
   
 
 Nabs,

There are conflicting reports from other sources also.  We should get some 
clarifications soon from the White House.  But no matter what the actual facts 
are, we'll never really know what actually happened for political and 
intelligence reasons.

What is really missing from the news is the whereabouts of Al Zawahiri, the 
present chief of Al Qaeda.  He is the biggest prize for the US commandos at 
this time.  How come the CIA can't find him? 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
The article starts with: A U.S. Navy SEAL team is believed to have killed... 
The word is believed to. According to reports here that leader was not killed 
nor seized and the navy seals had to withdraw due to heavy fire. 
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote:
This is a fast and furious followup to the Nairobi attack.  Obama is making his 
reputation known in addition with his fight with the Tea Party in Congress.

http://news.yahoo.com/u-commandos-seize-al-shabaab-leader-nairobi-attack-211536128.html

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: US Commandos Seize al Shabab Leader

2013-10-05 Thread Bhairitu
Notice they always do these things when the administrations approval 
rating is slipping.


On 10/05/2013 05:44 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:


The article starts with: A U.S. Navy SEAL team is believed to have 
killed... The word is believed to. According to reports here that 
leader was not killed nor seized and the navy seals had to withdraw 
due to heavy fire.




---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote:

This is a fast and furious followup to the Nairobi attack.  Obama is 
making his reputation known in addition with his fight with the Tea 
Party in Congress.


http://news.yahoo.com/u-commandos-seize-al-shabaab-leader-nairobi-attack-211536128.html





[FairfieldLife] Jesus Mo

2013-10-05 Thread s3raphita













[FairfieldLife] RE: US Commandos Seize al Shabab Leader

2013-10-05 Thread jr_esq