[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: (BTW, the reason for those foaming-at-the-mouth tirades is that Barry got his biggest buttons royally pressed when I said nobody much pays attention to him any more except to make fun of him. By God, he's going to MAKE FFL pay attention to him, even if he has to scream and jump up and down and stand on his head and lie until he's blue in the face. The Turqo: That's the same way I am these days with spiritual books. I tend to read them only after I've already had the experience they're discussing, to see how our impressions jibe, or don't. In a desperate attempt for attention he even hints that he has spiritual experiences, as if everyone who has been here for awhile doesn't know what beginners experiences they are :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. But Judy, isn't it nice that the Turqo now has a new fan here ? Since Curtis and Vaj are not posting here these days nobody cares about his slanders, lies, unstressing and self-promotion anymore. Must be a relief that a new wacko finally arrives who admires him :-) snip Nablusosss, what you have just tried to do here is to get something negative started here on FFL, and that must come from a dark place still inside of you...very dark indeed. I don't respect that. And it will be very telling from the responses, if any, that you get. Uh...what?? *Nabby* has tried to get something negative started?? Did you not bother to read the posts of Barry's that Nabby was commenting on? Or are you really that much of a hypocrite? (BTW, the reason for those foaming-at-the-mouth tirades is that Barry got his biggest buttons royally pressed when I said nobody much pays attention to him any more except to make fun of him. By God, he's going to MAKE FFL pay attention to him, even if he has to scream and jump up and down and stand on his head and lie until he's blue in the face. I knew that's how he'd react, and I also knew it would give me all *kinds* of opportunities to make fun of him, as you'll see. Barry is nothing if not predictable.) Give it up, Judy. Did you actually read my post you're responding to? You deleted it so, I'll link for context: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328554 Yes, you read it. That's why you deleted it. You have a tendency to delete the substance of a post that shows you to have been in serious error and just quote a line or two to make some wisecrack. Incredibly dishonest. (All credit and my thanks to RD and Judy from: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328730)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. But Judy, isn't it nice that the Turqo now has a new fan here ? Since Curtis and Vaj are not posting here these days nobody cares about his slanders, lies, unstressing and self-promotion anymore. Must be a relief that a new wacko finally arrives who admires him :-) snip Nablusosss, what you have just tried to do here is to get something negative started here on FFL, and that must come from a dark place still inside of you...very dark indeed. I don't respect that. And it will be very telling from the responses, if any, that you get. Uh...what?? *Nabby* has tried to get something negative started?? Did you not bother to read the posts of Barry's that Nabby was commenting on? Or are you really that much of a hypocrite? (BTW, the reason for those foaming-at-the-mouth tirades is that Barry got his biggest buttons royally pressed when I said nobody much pays attention to him any more except to make fun of him. By God, he's going to MAKE FFL pay attention to him, even if he has to scream and jump up and down and stand on his head and lie until he's blue in the face. I knew that's how he'd react, and I also knew it would give me all *kinds* of opportunities to make fun of him, as you'll see. Barry is nothing if not predictable.) Give it up, Judy. Did you actually read my post you're responding to? You deleted it so, I'll link for context: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328500 Yes, you read it. That's why you deleted it. You have a tendency to delete the substance of a post that shows you to have been in serious error and just quote a line or two to make some wisecrack. Incredibly dishonest. (Credit and thanks to RD and Judy from: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/328730)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't understand the incident re refered to - but it doesn't matter anyway - according to some here I don't really understand that much of anything - I am a confused Southerner It's not that important, Michael, just an example of How Judy Thinks. She read a review of the film Apocalypto by someone who wrote disparagingly of it and so, NOT having seen the film itself, passed along the information in her normal way, as if it were definitive. The subject line of the post, calling Mel Gibson a Christian bigot for making the film THAT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN was all her idea, NOT anything that was in the review she read. She's STILL never seen the movie, but my bet is that she will STILL claim to know that it's an example of Mel Gibson's Christian bigotry, and that she's RIGHT, damnit. She makes up the defamatory subject line of the post, and adds this at the end: To highlight what the writer tactfully leaves implicit, Gibson has slandered the Maya and mangled history for the purpose of exalting the purported superiority of Christianity. Judy doesn't NEED the actual experience of something to know all about it, you see. Same with Maharishi. Having meditated TM-style for decades, she made *one* feeble attempt to go see him, failed at that, and never felt the need to try to make another. But she'll tell you *exactly* how to interpret and understand every little thing that this guy she never met said, and claim to be RIGHT about it. I just like bringing up the Apocalypto thing because it's such Classic Judy -- making slander- ous statements about the director of a film she never bothered to see. Just because I love this example of Judythink, I'll expand on it. :-) http://www.salon.com/2006/12/15/maya/ http://www.salon.com/2006/12/15/maya/ She glommed onto this Salon article, written by an anthropologist who was apoplectic because a film that was intended to be a popular entertainment didn't portray the facts about the historical Maya *as he wanted them to*. The author takes himself and his study of a dead civilization SO seriously, and can't stand anyone using it as mere backdrop to a story. One gets the feeling all throughout his article that he really thinks that people should have saved the ten bucks they spent on the movie and paid it to listen to him talk, talk, talk about stuff they weren't interested in. That's just SO Judy...I can see why she glommed onto this guy, and his article. They're a lot alike. Because she never bothered to see the movie before using it as an excuse to dump on someone she already disliked (Mel Gibson), Judy also has no idea that the pedantic author she is citing *missed the whole point of the movie*. It was basically an adventure tale plus the thing Mel Gibson *always* puts in *all* of his movies -- a love story. The hero spends almost the entire film trying to find and rescue his wife and children. The rest of the film, including all the violence that people harped on, is just scenery, backdrop for the foreground story. But Judy wouldn't know that, because she never saw the movie. One gets the feeling that the author of the Salon piece didn't really see it, either. He says stuff like, In Apocalypto, the arrival of the Spanish signals 'a new beginning.' Remarkably, the event is portrayed as tranquil, as if the Spaniards are the adults who have finally come to rescue the 'littleuns' stranded on the island of William Golding's Lord of the Flies. This is total bullshit, and did not happen in the film. The pedantic professor is *projecting* this onto the movie. The line a new beginning clearly refers to the hero's new life now that he has rescued his wife and children, and escaped his pursuers. It has *nothing to do* with the arrival of the Spanish; they are mere backdrops. The pedantic professor goes on, with even more *pure projection*. He says, But in the movie, after two hours of excess, hyperbole and hysteria, the Spaniards represent the arrival of sanity to the Maya world. The tacit paternalism is devastating. Again, NONE OF THIS IS IN THE MOVIE. HE *PROJECTED* IT THERE. In the movie itself, there is only a 3-4 second shot of a European ship and sailors heading towards the shore, and then the *real* protagonists of the movie turn away from them and go back to their lives. The idea that Mel Gibson was trying to say that the Spaniards brought civilization to a savage world IS NOT IN THE MOVIE. Finally, the pedantic professor ends by revealing what the bug up his butt *really* is. He's pissed off that people are watching Mel Gibson's movie and not listening to him and other pedantic academics like him: I can only hope that audiences seeing this movie will be motivated to learn about the Maya present and past rather than be sated by Gibson's
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: One gets the feeling that the author of the Salon piece didn't really see it, either. He says stuff like, In Apocalypto, the arrival of the Spanish signals 'a new beginning.' Remarkably, the event is portrayed as tranquil, as if the Spaniards are the adults who have finally come to rescue the 'littleuns' stranded on the island of William Golding's Lord of the Flies. This is total bullshit, and did not happen in the film. The pedantic professor is *projecting* this onto the movie. The line a new beginning clearly refers to the hero's new life now that he has rescued his wife and children, and escaped his pursuers. It has *nothing to do* with the arrival of the Spanish; they are mere backdrops. Curious about this professor's projections, I downloaded a new clean copy of Apocalypto to watch these last scenes and thus refresh my memory. FAR from portraying the arrival of the Spaniards as 'rescuers' or Christans come to save the Maya from their savagery, Mel Gibson has his protagonist explicitly *reject* the arriving foreigners, and go with his family into the forest. The actual dialogue goes, as his wife catches sight of the ships: - What are they? - They bring men. - Should we go to them? - We should go to the forest. To seek a new beginning. They then turn away and disappear into the forest. If anything, the protagonist is seeing the new arrivals as what they are -- new, potentially dangerous, and not worth going to. He *certainly* does not see them as saviors, or as adults who have finally come to rescue the 'littleuns'. This professor is as blind as he is pedantic and petty. It is difficult for me to imagine how he could have possibly interpreted this scene and these lines as the Spanish bringing this new beginning he spoke so disparagingly of. It is easier for me to imagine how Judy interpreted it this way, and in fact added in the Christian bigot angle that was not even present in the professor's diatribe. After all, she never saw the movie. Or, seemingly, feels that she needed to. Just as she does when declaring exactly what someone on this forum was thinking and what they really intended when they posted something she didn't like, Judy just knows things. We're supposed to believe that these things are true because Judy said them. Yeah, right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: One gets the feeling that the author of the Salon piece didn't really see it, either. He says stuff like, In Apocalypto, the arrival of the Spanish signals 'a new beginning.' Remarkably, the event is portrayed as tranquil, as if the Spaniards are the adults who have finally come to rescue the 'littleuns' stranded on the island of William Golding's Lord of the Flies. This is total bullshit, and did not happen in the film. The pedantic professor is *projecting* this onto the movie. The line a new beginning clearly refers to the hero's new life now that he has rescued his wife and children, and escaped his pursuers. It has *nothing to do* with the arrival of the Spanish; they are mere backdrops. Curious about this professor's projections, I downloaded a new clean copy of Apocalypto to watch these last scenes and thus refresh my memory. FAR from portraying the arrival of the Spaniards as 'rescuers' or Christans come to save the Maya from their savagery, Mel Gibson has his protagonist explicitly *reject* the arriving foreigners, and go with his family into the forest. The actual dialogue goes, as his wife catches sight of the ships: - What are they? - They bring men. - Should we go to them? - We should go to the forest. To seek a new beginning. They then turn away and disappear into the forest. If anything, the protagonist is seeing the new arrivals as what they are -- new, potentially dangerous, and not worth going to. He *certainly* does not see them as saviors, or as adults who have finally come to rescue the 'littleuns'. This professor is as blind as he is pedantic and petty. Barry, I hadn't yet read this until after I had posted my lengthier response moments ago. Sounds like we're heading in the same direction with regard to our interpretations, i.e. the Spaniards ironically being dangerous rather than saviors. It is difficult for me to imagine how he could have possibly interpreted this scene and these lines as the Spanish bringing this new beginning he spoke so disparagingly of. It is easier for me to imagine how Judy interpreted it this way, and in fact added in the Christian bigot angle that was not even present in the professor's diatribe. After all, she never saw the movie. Or, seemingly, feels that she needed to. Just as she does when declaring exactly what someone on this forum was thinking and what they really intended when they posted something she didn't like, Judy just knows things. We're supposed to believe that these things are true because Judy said them. Yeah, right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't understand the incident re refered to - but it doesn't matter anyway - according to some here I don't really understand that much of anything - I am a confused Southerner It's not that important, Michael, just an example of How Judy Thinks. She read a review of the film Apocalypto by someone who wrote disparagingly of it and so, NOT having seen the film itself, passed along the information in her normal way, as if it were definitive. The subject line of the post, calling Mel Gibson a Christian bigot for making the film THAT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN was all her idea, NOT anything that was in the review she read. She's STILL never seen the movie, but my bet is that she will STILL claim to know that it's an example of Mel Gibson's Christian bigotry, and that she's RIGHT, damnit. She makes up the defamatory subject line of the post, and adds this at the end: To highlight what the writer tactfully leaves implicit, Gibson has slandered the Maya and mangled history for the purpose of exalting the purported superiority of Christianity. Judy doesn't NEED the actual experience of something to know all about it, you see. Same with Maharishi. Having meditated TM-style for decades, she made *one* feeble attempt to go see him, failed at that, and never felt the need to try to make another. But she'll tell you *exactly* how to interpret and understand every little thing that this guy she never met said, and claim to be RIGHT about it. I just like bringing up the Apocalypto thing because it's such Classic Judy -- making slander- ous statements about the director of a film she never bothered to see. turquoiseb: Just because I love this example of Judythink, I'll expand on it. :-) So, it's all about Judy. http://www.salon.com/2006/12/15/maya/ http://www.salon.com/2006/12/15/maya/ She glommed onto this Salon article, written by an anthropologist who was apoplectic because a film that was intended to be a popular entertainment didn't portray the facts about the historical Maya *as he wanted them to*. The author takes himself and his study of a dead civilization SO seriously, and can't stand anyone using it as mere backdrop to a story. One gets the feeling all throughout his article that he really thinks that people should have saved the ten bucks they spent on the movie and paid it to listen to him talk, talk, talk about stuff they weren't interested in. That's just SO Judy...I can see why she glommed onto this guy, and his article. They're a lot alike. Because she never bothered to see the movie before using it as an excuse to dump on someone she already disliked (Mel Gibson), Judy also has no idea that the pedantic author she is citing *missed the whole point of the movie*. It was basically an adventure tale plus the thing Mel Gibson *always* puts in *all* of his movies -- a love story. The hero spends almost the entire film trying to find and rescue his wife and children. The rest of the film, including all the violence that people harped on, is just scenery, backdrop for the foreground story. But Judy wouldn't know that, because she never saw the movie. One gets the feeling that the author of the Salon piece didn't really see it, either. He says stuff like, In Apocalypto, the arrival of the Spanish signals 'a new beginning.' Remarkably, the event is portrayed as tranquil, as if the Spaniards are the adults who have finally come to rescue the 'littleuns' stranded on the island of William Golding's Lord of the Flies. This is total bullshit, and did not happen in the film. The pedantic professor is *projecting* this onto the movie. The line a new beginning clearly refers to the hero's new life now that he has rescued his wife and children, and escaped his pursuers. It has *nothing to do* with the arrival of the Spanish; they are mere backdrops. The pedantic professor goes on, with even more *pure projection*. He says, But in the movie, after two hours of excess, hyperbole and hysteria, the Spaniards represent the arrival of sanity to the Maya world. The tacit paternalism is devastating. Again, NONE OF THIS IS IN THE MOVIE. HE *PROJECTED* IT THERE. In the movie itself, there is only a 3-4 second shot of a European ship and sailors heading towards the shore, and then the *real* protagonists of the movie turn away from them and go back to their lives. The idea that Mel Gibson was trying to say that the Spaniards brought civilization to a savage world IS NOT IN THE MOVIE. Finally, the pedantic professor ends by revealing what the bug up his butt *really* is. He's pissed off that people are watching Mel Gibson's movie and not listening to him and other pedantic academics like him: I can only hope that audiences seeing this movie will be motivated to learn about the Maya present and past rather than be sated by Gibson's
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. But Judy, isn't it nice that the Turqo now has a new fan here ? Since Curtis and Vaj are not posting here these days nobody cares about his slanders, lies, unstressing and self-promotion anymore. Must be a relief that a new wacko finally arrives who admires him :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
mjackson74: I am curious however to know if that other teacher did take the suitcase across borders? I think if it had been me, I would have done it and taken out about a third for my efforts It's all a matter of positionng - you positioned yourself close to MMY so you be a money courier; Barry positioned himslef close to MMY so he could be the MMY door-boy and collect the donations. LoL! Not sure why you and Barry would think meeting MMY in person would make him understand the mechanics of consciousness any better. You must have been thnking that the closer you get to MMY, the easier to steal movement money. It's sort of like Barry and the Rama guy - and the more money Barry gave to Rama, the more times he could get to sit at Lenz's feet and learn how to get money from poor students for instant enlightenment. Go figure. The more you give, the more people we can help, Lenz says piously on a tape. It's that simple. http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/wired
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Ah, I understand now - I must admit I never saw Gibby's last couple of films - I got a little burned out on him after watching him say he wanted Frank Rich's spleen on a stick and kill his dog in response to criticism of his Passion of Christ movie, plus I must admit I am not a fan of historically inaccurate films - which means most films based on history I guess cuz most Hollywood directors don't let history get in the way of telling a story. Having said that, I did like Cinderella Man a lot, tho it was not accurate in some respects, and I did like Braveheart - I bet I have seen it 10 times all told even tho it is very inaccurate in its portrayal of William Wallace. The Patriot however I despised - that may in part be because I was born and raised in South Carolina where every schoolkid is raised on (whitewashed) tales of Francis Marion, Swamp Fox. I understand any film makers using history as a backdrop for a story, but with something I am familiar with as Revolutionary War in South Carolina as I am, the real historical events and people are more interesting than the made up events - the same goes for Braveheart too but I did like the job he did on that one. Anyhow, if Tom Cruise ever convinces Gibby to give up Ultra Right Wing Catholicism for Scientology, we might get some real shore nuff good performances from him. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 1:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't understand the incident re refered to - but it doesn't matter anyway - according to some here I don't really understand that much of anything - I am a confused Southerner It's not that important, Michael, just an example of How Judy Thinks. She read a review of the film Apocalypto by someone who wrote disparagingly of it and so, NOT having seen the film itself, passed along the information in her normal way, as if it were definitive. The subject line of the post, calling Mel Gibson a Christian bigot for making the film THAT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN was all her idea, NOT anything that was in the review she read. She's STILL never seen the movie, but my bet is that she will STILL claim to know that it's an example of Mel Gibson's Christian bigotry, and that she's RIGHT, damnit. She makes up the defamatory subject line of the post, and adds this at the end: To highlight what the writer tactfully leaves implicit, Gibson has slandered the Maya and mangled history for the purpose of exalting the purported superiority of Christianity. Judy doesn't NEED the actual experience of something to know all about it, you see. Same with Maharishi. Having meditated TM-style for decades, she made *one* feeble attempt to go see him, failed at that, and never felt the need to try to make another. But she'll tell you *exactly* how to interpret and understand every little thing that this guy she never met said, and claim to be RIGHT about it. I just like bringing up the Apocalypto thing because it's such Classic Judy -- making slander- ous statements about the director of a film she never bothered to see. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 6:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full of money across international borders is an interesting feller to listen to I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put herself in the same room with him As Barry knows, I did go to considerable lengths to do exactly that. Unfortunately, I couldn't do anything about MMY's decision not to turn up in that room. So there you are, there's an example of why you should not take any of Barry's assertions as fact unless you can verify them from another source. His assertion above is not fact. , such as...wait for it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid more attention to than others who did all these things. :-) Nor is this. Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot is accurate, *never having seen the film*. :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 Follow
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again I profess ignorance - I am not familiar with Rama nor Barry's association with him From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra mjackson74: I am curious however to know if that other teacher did take the suitcase across borders? I think if it had been me, I would have done it and taken out about a third for my efforts It's all a matter of positionng - you positioned yourself close to MMY so you be a money courier; Barry positioned himslef close to MMY so he could be the MMY door-boy and collect the donations. LoL! Not sure why you and Barry would think meeting MMY in person would make him understand the mechanics of consciousness any better. You must have been thnking that the closer you get to MMY, the easier to steal movement money. It's sort of like Barry and the Rama guy - and the more money Barry gave to Rama, the more times he could get to sit at Lenz's feet and learn how to get money from poor students for instant enlightenment. Go figure. The more you give, the more people we can help, Lenz says piously on a tape. It's that simple. http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/wired
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I assume you mean me - I do admire some of the things Barry has posted or perhaps its more like I agree with his thinking on some things - as to me, I ask God to bless each person on FFL, even the ones I don't agree with and in my ego self would brand ostriches who keep their heads well stuck in the sand so they don't see the rajas taking the donations all the way to the bank - Liberace cried all the way to the bank, the rajas I guess hum Rig Veda on their way there. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 9:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. But Judy, isn't it nice that the Turqo now has a new fan here ? Since Curtis and Vaj are not posting here these days nobody cares about his slanders, lies, unstressing and self-promotion anymore. Must be a relief that a new wacko finally arrives who admires him :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't understand the incident re refered to - but it doesn't matter anyway - according to some here I don't really understand that much of anything - I am a confused Southerner It's not that important, Michael, just an example of How Judy Thinks. She read a review of the film Apocalypto by someone who wrote disparagingly of it and so, NOT having seen the film itself, passed along the information in her normal way, as if it were definitive. The subject line of the post, calling Mel Gibson a Christian bigot for making the film THAT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN was all her idea, NOT anything that was in the review she read. She's STILL never seen the movie, but my bet is that she will STILL claim to know that it's an example of Mel Gibson's Christian bigotry, and that she's RIGHT, damnit. She makes up the defamatory subject line of the post, and adds this at the end: To highlight what the writer tactfully leaves implicit, Gibson has slandered the Maya and mangled history for the purpose of exalting the purported superiority of Christianity. Judy doesn't NEED the actual experience of something to know all about it, you see. Same with Maharishi. Having meditated TM-style for decades, she made *one* feeble attempt to go see him, failed at that, and never felt the need to try to make another. But she'll tell you *exactly* how to interpret and understand every little thing that this guy she never met said, and claim to be RIGHT about it. I just like bringing up the Apocalypto thing because it's such Classic Judy -- making slander- ous statements about the director of a film she never bothered to see. I wonder, at times like this, if you will ever get over your compulsion to: Comment on what Judy says or does Get over your obsession to put down/undermine her (and others when you see the smallest opening) Gag out the bone in your craw Squeeze the pus out of that boil Take the burr out of your underwear Move on Forgive Change For everyone's sake, especially yours, I hope it is soon. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 6:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full of money across international borders is an interesting feller to listen to I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put herself in the same room with him As Barry knows, I did go to considerable lengths to do exactly that. Unfortunately, I couldn't do anything about MMY's decision not to turn up in that room. So there you are, there's an example of why you should not take any of Barry's assertions as fact unless you can verify them from another source. His assertion above is not fact. , such as...wait for it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid more attention to than others who did all these things. :-) Nor is this. Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot is accurate, *never having seen the film*. :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are dealing with... Ah, this is an excellent example of what I just said about its being wise to have more than one source for one of Barry's assertions. In this case, fortunately, we have the record in the archives. Barry doesn't expect you to actually *read* the thread--hopes you don't, in fact--but if you do, you'll get quite an education. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. But Judy, isn't it nice that the Turqo now has a new fan here ? Since Curtis and Vaj are not posting here these days nobody cares about his slanders, lies, unstressing and self-promotion anymore. Must be a relief that a new wacko finally arrives who admires him :-) I could be wrong, but I'm assuming, nablusoss, that you are referring to me. While not necessarily a fan, I tend to find something to appreciate and possibly acknowledge from postings of most of the members of this forum. In this case, I can appreciate Barry's artistic insights into the movie Apocalypto rather than what he's got going with Judy...I thought I made that clear in my last sentence. I appreciated your posting a link a week or so ago with regard to Maharishi talking about Love and God: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgzX2dtdeGE I've also appreciated RD's latest post of her granddaughter's gymnastics accomplishments, a few of Ravi's posts when they come from his heart, Robin's posts when they are simple enough for me to understand, etc. While not a fan of any of these people, I can only say that I find some good in some of what they offer. Rather than being a fan of someone, I'm a respecter of someone if he/she has earned that respect (and sometimes, even if he/she hasn't because what he/she writes comes from a painful place). Nablusosss, what you have just tried to do here is to get something negative started here on FFL, and that must come from a dark place still inside of you...very dark indeed. I don't respect that. And it will be very telling from the responses, if any, that you get.
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Shoot, I thought he meant me! From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. But Judy, isn't it nice that the Turqo now has a new fan here ? Since Curtis and Vaj are not posting here these days nobody cares about his slanders, lies, unstressing and self-promotion anymore. Must be a relief that a new wacko finally arrives who admires him :-) I could be wrong, but I'm assuming, nablusoss, that you are referring to me. While not necessarily a fan, I tend to find something to appreciate and possibly acknowledge from postings of most of the members of this forum. In this case, I can appreciate Barry's artistic insights into the movie Apocalypto rather than what he's got going with Judy...I thought I made that clear in my last sentence. I appreciated your posting a link a week or so ago with regard to Maharishi talking about Love and God: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgzX2dtdeGE I've also appreciated RD's latest post of her granddaughter's gymnastics accomplishments, a few of Ravi's posts when they come from his heart, Robin's posts when they are simple enough for me to understand, etc. While not a fan of any of these people, I can only say that I find some good in some of what they offer. Rather than being a fan of someone, I'm a respecter of someone if he/she has earned that respect (and sometimes, even if he/she hasn't because what he/she writes comes from a painful place). Nablusosss, what you have just tried to do here is to get something negative started here on FFL, and that must come from a dark place still inside of you...very dark indeed. I don't respect that. And it will be very telling from the responses, if any, that you get.
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MJ, obviously he caught both of us. Guilty conscience, I guess! I was completely unaware that you were making a response at the same time that I was. It's interesting to compare the two responses...there's a whole lotta' truth buried in what both of us have written. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Shoot, I thought he meant me! From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. But Judy, isn't it nice that the Turqo now has a new fan here ? Since Curtis and Vaj are not posting here these days nobody cares about his slanders, lies, unstressing and self-promotion anymore. Must be a relief that a new wacko finally arrives who admires him :-) I could be wrong, but I'm assuming, nablusoss, that you are referring to me. While not necessarily a fan, I tend to find something to appreciate and possibly acknowledge from postings of most of the members of this forum. In this case, I can appreciate Barry's artistic insights into the movie Apocalypto rather than what he's got going with Judy...I thought I made that clear in my last sentence. I appreciated your posting a link a week or so ago with regard to Maharishi talking about Love and God: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgzX2dtdeGE I've also appreciated RD's latest post of her granddaughter's gymnastics accomplishments, a few of Ravi's posts when they come from his heart, Robin's posts when they are simple enough for me to understand, etc. While not a fan of any of these people, I can only say that I find some good in some of what they offer. Rather than being a fan of someone, I'm a respecter of someone if he/she has earned that respect (and sometimes, even if he/she hasn't because what he/she writes comes from a painful place). Nablusosss, what you have just tried to do here is to get something negative started here on FFL, and that must come from a dark place still inside of you...very dark indeed. I don't respect that. And it will be very telling from the responses, if any, that you get.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: MJ, obviously he caught both of us. Guilty conscience, I guess! I was completely unaware that you were making a response at the same time that I was. It's interesting to compare the two responses...there's a whole lotta' truth buried in what both of us have written. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Shoot, I thought he meant me! Not to worry, I've been known to mix up a post or two! At least I'm in good company. From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 9:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. But Judy, isn't it nice that the Turqo now has a new fan here ? Since Curtis and Vaj are not posting here these days nobody cares about his slanders, lies, unstressing and self-promotion anymore. Must be a relief that a new wacko finally arrives who admires him :-) I could be wrong, but I'm assuming, nablusoss, that you are referring to me. While not necessarily a fan, I tend to find something to appreciate and possibly acknowledge from postings of most of the members of this forum. In this case, I can appreciate Barry's artistic insights into the movie Apocalypto rather than what he's got going with Judy...I thought I made that clear in my last sentence. I appreciated your posting a link a week or so ago with regard to Maharishi talking about Love and God: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgzX2dtdeGE I've also appreciated RD's latest post of her granddaughter's gymnastics accomplishments, a few of Ravi's posts when they come from his heart, Robin's posts when they are simple enough for me to understand, etc. While not a fan of any of these people, I can only say that I find some good in some of what they offer. Rather than being a fan of someone, I'm a respecter of someone if he/she has earned that respect (and sometimes, even if he/she hasn't because what he/she writes comes from a painful place). Nablusosss, what you have just tried to do here is to get something negative started here on FFL, and that must come from a dark place still inside of you...very dark indeed. I don't respect that. And it will be very telling from the responses, if any, that you get.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. But Judy, isn't it nice that the Turqo now has a new fan here ? Since Curtis and Vaj are not posting here these days nobody cares about his slanders, lies, unstressing and self-promotion anymore. Must be a relief that a new wacko finally arrives who admires him :-) snip Nablusosss, what you have just tried to do here is to get something negative started here on FFL, and that must come from a dark place still inside of you...very dark indeed. I don't respect that. And it will be very telling from the responses, if any, that you get. Uh...what?? *Nabby* has tried to get something negative started?? Did you not bother to read the posts of Barry's that Nabby was commenting on? Or are you really that much of a hypocrite? (BTW, the reason for those foaming-at-the-mouth tirades is that Barry got his biggest buttons royally pressed when I said nobody much pays attention to him any more except to make fun of him. By God, he's going to MAKE FFL pay attention to him, even if he has to scream and jump up and down and stand on his head and lie until he's blue in the face. I knew that's how he'd react, and I also knew it would give me all *kinds* of opportunities to make fun of him, as you'll see. Barry is nothing if not predictable.)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@... wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either* Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah Mantra is required: Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate' the moolah. All that matters is that we get it. Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that some still revere Maharishi.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@... wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meani\ ng-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-mean\ ing-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Nice, thanks for posting ! This is what Benjamin Creme has to say about Sai Baba: The relation of Sai Baba to the Christ: The Christ is a planetary avatar, Sai Baba is a cosmic avatar. He is a Spiritual Regent, sent into the world by the Lord of the World, Sanat Kumara, on Shamballa. A regent stands in for the king. Similarly, a Spiritual Regent stands in for God, for the Logos, Whose reflection Sanat Kumara is. Sai Baba embodies the energy of Love at a cosmic level (the Christ embodies this energy at the planetary level) and his work, in part, is to prepare humanity for the work of the Christ. By awakening the love principle in humanity, Sai Baba will prepare people for the Initiatory work of the Christ. As the Hierophant, the Initiator, at the first two planetary initiations, the Christ will lead humanity gradually out of the strictly human kingdom into the Hierarchy, the Kingdom of Souls, or the Kingdom of God. That is his major work in the coming age of Aquarius. These two Great Ones work together in daily contact, complete harmony and shared purpose in the evolution of mankind.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/this_world/3813469.stm so much for Benjy Creme From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:48 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@... wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Nice, thanks for posting ! This is what Benjamin Creme has to say about Sai Baba: The relation of Sai Baba to the Christ: The Christ is a planetary avatar, Sai Baba is a cosmic avatar. He is a Spiritual Regent, sent into the world by the Lord of the World, Sanat Kumara, on Shamballa. A regent stands in for the king. Similarly, a Spiritual Regent stands in for God, for the Logos, Whose reflection Sanat Kumara is. Sai Baba embodies the energy of Love at a cosmic level (the Christ embodies this energy at the planetary level) and his work, in part, is to prepare humanity for the work of the Christ. By awakening the love principle in humanity, Sai Baba will prepare people for the Initiatory work of the Christ. As the Hierophant, the Initiator, at the first two planetary initiations, the Christ will lead humanity gradually out of the strictly human kingdom into the Hierarchy, the Kingdom of Souls, or the Kingdom of God. That is his major work in the coming age of Aquarius. These two Great Ones work together in daily contact, complete harmony and shared purpose in the evolution of mankind.
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Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@... wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either* Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah Mantra is required: Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate' the moolah. All that matters is that we get it. Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that some still revere Maharishi.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste. That's the advantage to having been around these here parts longer, Pardner. In my case, they've already used up all the scurrilous accusations they can think of. :-) Seriously, I think that the Sathya Sai Baba thang is an Indian National Scandal, and should be treated as such. The evidence of his child-molesting ways is strong enough to have resulted in prosecutions in most countries of the world, and the video evidence of him palming the miraculous items he claimed to produce from the ether is all over YouTube. But in India he was, and his memory still is, protected from on high by former followers, in the highest offices of the land. They take advantage of archaic laws that make it actually *illegal* to say bad things about a supposed holy man. They also use the power of their enormous holdings to hire the best lawyers and PIs to intimidate and sue anyone who dares to speak against him in public. These forces kept any serious court cases from being filed against him during his lifetime. What amazes me -- and I think you'll identify with this from your TM experience -- is how you can present all of the evidence of his wrongdoings to devout Sai Baba freaks, and they find ways to either ignore it, treat it as lies, or find some way to excuse it. No, when the parents walked in and found him fondling the genitals of their child, Sai Baba was just using his holy shakti to increase the child's kundalini. Yeah, right. I'm waiting to see how long it takes before someone trots out that explanation for the charges against Mia Farrow's only-distantly-related-to-TM brother. Spiritual teachers should be held to *higher* standards than anyone else. That's what they SELL, after all -- higher standards. They tell us that they've got the teachings or techniques to make ourselves better than the average Joe. They sell higher states of consciousness that promise greater-than-human abilities and perceptions and abilities to do the right thing in all situations. When they say this shit and then get off by fondling children's genitals, I say they should be dealt with the same way your Uncle Charlie would be if he did it. Only the punishment should be more severe for the person who claimed he was above such things, and made a fortune from claiming it. There. *Now* let's see if they've used up all of their scurrilous accusations. :-) From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either* Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah Mantra is required: Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate' the moolah. All that matters is that we get it. Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that some still revere Maharishi.
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Bbbut, Barry! Benjy Creme says he's a real sho 'nuff saint!!! I know what you mean - you find the same thing in New Age-y stuff - even tho I spent a long time doing it I have gotten increasingly skeptical about all the Ascended Master stuff - all the things that Bob Fickes and Joshua Stone and all the other people are coming up with is like a Marvel Comic or rather the entire Marvel Universe. One of the best examples was an old fraud by the name of Guy Ballard who claimed to have a personal relationship with the Master St Germain. There are so many holes in his narrative books the Unveiled Mystery series that its easy to see he was a fraud, but even today the members of and believers in the St. Germain Society and the I AM Activity will go ballistic if you say so. Ballard and his wife who some say actually wrote the books and was the power behind Guy had their heyday during the Depression. Ballard promised them eternal youth, a bodily ascension into heaven, wealth, romance with one's soul mate. He accepted donations from his followers, wanted them to only hang out with other students, made them give up many things... but did not deliver on his promises. Sound familiar? When people don't know who they are within, they will gravitate towards people who seem to have it all - ignoring or not seeing that they do have it all and they got it from their followers. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste. That's the advantage to having been around these here parts longer, Pardner. In my case, they've already used up all the scurrilous accusations they can think of. :-) Seriously, I think that the Sathya Sai Baba thang is an Indian National Scandal, and should be treated as such. The evidence of his child-molesting ways is strong enough to have resulted in prosecutions in most countries of the world, and the video evidence of him palming the miraculous items he claimed to produce from the ether is all over YouTube. But in India he was, and his memory still is, protected from on high by former followers, in the highest offices of the land. They take advantage of archaic laws that make it actually *illegal* to say bad things about a supposed holy man. They also use the power of their enormous holdings to hire the best lawyers and PIs to intimidate and sue anyone who dares to speak against him in public. These forces kept any serious court cases from being filed against him during his lifetime. What amazes me -- and I think you'll identify with this from your TM experience -- is how you can present all of the evidence of his wrongdoings to devout Sai Baba freaks, and they find ways to either ignore it, treat it as lies, or find some way to excuse it. No, when the parents walked in and found him fondling the genitals of their child, Sai Baba was just using his holy shakti to increase the child's kundalini. Yeah, right. I'm waiting to see how long it takes before someone trots out that explanation for the charges against Mia Farrow's only-distantly-related-to-TM brother. Spiritual teachers should be held to *higher* standards than anyone else. That's what they SELL, after all -- higher standards. They tell us that they've got the teachings or techniques to make ourselves better than the average Joe. They sell higher states of consciousness that promise greater-than-human abilities and perceptions and abilities to do the right thing in all situations. When they say this shit and then get off by fondling children's genitals, I say they should be dealt with the same way your Uncle Charlie would be if he did it. Only the punishment should be more severe for the person who claimed he was above such things, and made a fortune from claiming it. There. *Now* let's see if they've used up all of their scurrilous accusations. :-) From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Duh. One would think
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This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. turquoiseb: Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either* Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah Mantra is required: This is funny! So, how much 'moolah' did you give the Marshy and the Rama Guy? $10,000 or $20,000 over fourteen years so NOW you're complaining. Go figure. You got what, a single mantra from MMY and didn't even get a spiritual name from Rama and after all that time and money spent. LoL! Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate' the moolah. All that matters is that we get it. What do you suppose Rama did with all the money you gave him? From what I've read, Lenz bought hisself a Mercedes Benz and a nice pad up in Stony Brook. Nice! Were you evenr invited up over to sit in his Fred's hot tub? Maybe you don't want to talk about it. Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that some still revere Maharishi. Or, that some still revere the Rama guy. LoL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look, because it tends not to stand up to examination). Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either* Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah Mantra is required: Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate' the moolah. All that matters is that we get it. Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that some still revere Maharishi.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full of money across international borders is an interesting feller to listen to From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look, because it tends not to stand up to examination). Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either* Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah Mantra is required: Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate' the moolah. All that matters is that we get it. Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that some still revere Maharishi.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full of money across international borders is an interesting feller to listen to I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put herself in the same room with him, such as...wait for it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid more attention to than others who did all these things. :-) Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot is accurate, *never having seen the film*. :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are dealing with... From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look, because it tends not to stand up to examination). Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra ÃÂ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either* Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah Mantra is required: Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate' the moolah. All that matters is that we get it. Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that some still revere Maharishi.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
On the subject of Mel I will have to defer to the Christian thinking that goes something like this IF a man says he is right with Jesus, ask hiw wife and children not knowing Mel's ex, I won't make further comments. I am curious however to know if that other teacher did take the suitcase across borders? I think if it had been me, I would have done it and taken out about a third for my efforts - if Marshy complained, I would quote Ferrari from Casablanca Carrying charges, my boy, carrying charges. Although since it was Marshy, I would have said Marshy instead of my boy From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full of money across international borders is an interesting feller to listen to I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put herself in the same room with him, such as...wait for it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid more attention to than others who did all these things. :-) Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot is accurate, *never having seen the film*. :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are dealing with... From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look, because it tends not to stand up to examination). Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either* Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah Mantra is required: Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate' the moolah. All that matters is that we get it. Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that some still revere Maharishi.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full of money across international borders is an interesting feller to listen to The first dozen or so times you hear him tell the tale, perhaps. One also realizes after awhile that it's wise to have more than one source for any particular tale or assertion from Barry. (I have no reason to doubt the substance of this one, but I might question whether Barry witnessed it himself.) From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look, because it tends not to stand up to examination). Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either* Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah Mantra is required: Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate' the moolah. All that matters is that we get it. Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that some still revere Maharishi.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full of money across international borders is an interesting feller to listen to I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put herself in the same room with him As Barry knows, I did go to considerable lengths to do exactly that. Unfortunately, I couldn't do anything about MMY's decision not to turn up in that room. So there you are, there's an example of why you should not take any of Barry's assertions as fact unless you can verify them from another source. His assertion above is not fact. , such as...wait for it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid more attention to than others who did all these things. :-) Nor is this. Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot is accurate, *never having seen the film*. :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are dealing with... Ah, this is an excellent example of what I just said about its being wise to have more than one source for one of Barry's assertions. In this case, fortunately, we have the record in the archives. Barry doesn't expect you to actually *read* the thread--hopes you don't, in fact--but if you do, you'll get quite an education. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look, because it tends not to stand up to examination). Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra ÃÂ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either* Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah Mantra is required: Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate' the moolah. All that matters is that we get it. Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that some still revere Maharishi.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't understand the incident re refered to - but it doesn't matter anyway - according to some here I don't really understand that much of anything - I am a confused Southerner From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 6:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full of money across international borders is an interesting feller to listen to I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put herself in the same room with him As Barry knows, I did go to considerable lengths to do exactly that. Unfortunately, I couldn't do anything about MMY's decision not to turn up in that room. So there you are, there's an example of why you should not take any of Barry's assertions as fact unless you can verify them from another source. His assertion above is not fact. , such as...wait for it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid more attention to than others who did all these things. :-) Nor is this. Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot is accurate, *never having seen the film*. :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are dealing with... Ah, this is an excellent example of what I just said about its being wise to have more than one source for one of Barry's assertions. In this case, fortunately, we have the record in the archives. Barry doesn't expect you to actually *read* the thread--hopes you don't, in fact--but if you do, you'll get quite an education. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look, because it tends not to stand up to examination). Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either* Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah Mantra is required: Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate' the moolah. All that matters is that we get it. Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that some still revere Maharishi.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't understand the incident re refered to - but it doesn't matter anyway - according to some here I don't really understand that much of anything - I am a confused Southerner Well, I don't think you need to worry about that kind of opinion of you. If somebody can actually challenge your logic or facts, that's another matter. People here have a rather distressing tendency to think the former is all that's required to rebut an analysis. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 6:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full of money across international borders is an interesting feller to listen to I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put herself in the same room with him As Barry knows, I did go to considerable lengths to do exactly that. Unfortunately, I couldn't do anything about MMY's decision not to turn up in that room. So there you are, there's an example of why you should not take any of Barry's assertions as fact unless you can verify them from another source. His assertion above is not fact. , such as...wait for it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid more attention to than others who did all these things. :-) Nor is this. Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot is accurate, *never having seen the film*. :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are dealing with... Ah, this is an excellent example of what I just said about its being wise to have more than one source for one of Barry's assertions. In this case, fortunately, we have the record in the archives. Barry doesn't expect you to actually *read* the thread--hopes you don't, in fact--but if you do, you'll get quite an education. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look, because it tends not to stand up to examination). Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra Ãâà--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martin.quickman martin.quickman@ wrote: This mantra evokes the living God, asking protection and freedom from all sorrow and suffering. http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2009/11/20/moola-mantra-the-meaning-of-filed-under-favourite-sai-memory/ Duh. One would think that when it comes to *either* Sai Baba or Maharishi no explanation of the Moolah Mantra is required: Send us more moolah, oh God. Lots and lots and lots of moolah. That will protect us and give us freedom from sorrow and suffering. Fuck those who 'donate' the moolah. All that matters is that we get it. Sorry, but the fact that some people still revere that child-molesting, bad-magician charlatan Sathya Sai Baba blows my mind even more than the fact that some still revere Maharishi.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't understand the incident re refered to - but it doesn't matter anyway - according to some here I don't really understand that much of anything - I am a confused Southerner It's not that important, Michael, just an example of How Judy Thinks. She read a review of the film Apocalypto by someone who wrote disparagingly of it and so, NOT having seen the film itself, passed along the information in her normal way, as if it were definitive. The subject line of the post, calling Mel Gibson a Christian bigot for making the film THAT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN was all her idea, NOT anything that was in the review she read. She's STILL never seen the movie, but my bet is that she will STILL claim to know that it's an example of Mel Gibson's Christian bigotry, and that she's RIGHT, damnit. She makes up the defamatory subject line of the post, and adds this at the end: To highlight what the writer tactfully leaves implicit, Gibson has slandered the Maya and mangled history for the purpose of exalting the purported superiority of Christianity. Judy doesn't NEED the actual experience of something to know all about it, you see. Same with Maharishi. Having meditated TM-style for decades, she made *one* feeble attempt to go see him, failed at that, and never felt the need to try to make another. But she'll tell you *exactly* how to interpret and understand every little thing that this guy she never met said, and claim to be RIGHT about it. I just like bringing up the Apocalypto thing because it's such Classic Judy -- making slander- ous statements about the director of a film she never bothered to see. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 6:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Well each to his own I reckon - but a guy who watched Maha try to get an initiator to secretly carry a suitcase full of money across international borders is an interesting feller to listen to I think you'll find that Judy doesn't agree with this, and feels instead that someone who never met Maharishi, never became a teacher, and in fact never cared about either him or her own spiritual pursuits enough to put herself in the same room with him As Barry knows, I did go to considerable lengths to do exactly that. Unfortunately, I couldn't do anything about MMY's decision not to turn up in that room. So there you are, there's an example of why you should not take any of Barry's assertions as fact unless you can verify them from another source. His assertion above is not fact. , such as...wait for it...herself, is more authoritative and should be paid more attention to than others who did all these things. :-) Nor is this. Then again, she still feels that her view of Mel Gibson's film Apocalypto is the most authoritative, too, and that her characterization of him as Mel Gibson, Christian Bigot is accurate, *never having seen the film*. :-) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/126122 Follow the thread. It's very instructive as to who you are dealing with... Ah, this is an excellent example of what I just said about its being wise to have more than one source for one of Barry's assertions. In this case, fortunately, we have the record in the archives. Barry doesn't expect you to actually *read* the thread--hopes you don't, in fact--but if you do, you'll get quite an education. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 3:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Now that's the sort of thing that if I had said it would lead to all sorts of scurrilous accusations towards me on the part of some folks around here - Turq you must have a mighty presence that they dast not speak ill of you Er, no. Barry's never really had a lot to say, and what there is of it, we've heard many, MANY times by now. You haven't been here that long, so much of it is still new to you (but you do need to learn to give it a close look, because it tends not to stand up to examination). Anyway, the bottom line is that hardly anybody pays much attention to Barry these days except to make fun of him. - as to your remarks themselves you know what the ancient Vedic sages used to say - There is no accounting for taste. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
Bzzt...back off King Baby, stop obsessing on Judy, stop being such an attention vampire !!! On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:05 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't understand the incident re refered to - but it doesn't matter anyway - according to some here I don't really understand that much of anything - I am a confused Southerner It's not that important, Michael, just an example of How Judy Thinks. She read a review of the film Apocalypto by someone who wrote disparagingly of it and so, NOT having seen the film itself, passed along the information in her normal way, as if it were definitive. The subject line of the post, calling Mel Gibson a Christian bigot for making the film THAT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN was all her idea, NOT anything that was in the review she read. She's STILL never seen the movie, but my bet is that she will STILL claim to know that it's an example of Mel Gibson's Christian bigotry, and that she's RIGHT, damnit. She makes up the defamatory subject line of the post, and adds this at the end: To highlight what the writer tactfully leaves implicit, Gibson has slandered the Maya and mangled history for the purpose of exalting the purported superiority of Christianity. Judy doesn't NEED the actual experience of something to know all about it, you see. Same with Maharishi. Having meditated TM-style for decades, she made *one* feeble attempt to go see him, failed at that, and never felt the need to try to make another. But she'll tell you *exactly* how to interpret and understand every little thing that this guy she never met said, and claim to be RIGHT about it. I just like bringing up the Apocalypto thing because it's such Classic Judy -- making slander- ous statements about the director of a film she never bothered to see.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Meaning of the Moola Mantra
I just checked Barry baby - you made this post at 7:05 AM? What the fuck is wrong with you - goddamn it - play with the little girl, take the dogs out for a walk, listen to the Church bells, meditate but please stop obsessing. OMG !!! I can't believe I have to tell you all this every time, you are starting to worry me Barry. On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Bzzt...back off King Baby, stop obsessing on Judy, stop being such an attention vampire !!! On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:05 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: its all rather confusing to me as I really didn't understand the incident re refered to - but it doesn't matter anyway - according to some here I don't really understand that much of anything - I am a confused Southerner It's not that important, Michael, just an example of How Judy Thinks. She read a review of the film Apocalypto by someone who wrote disparagingly of it and so, NOT having seen the film itself, passed along the information in her normal way, as if it were definitive. The subject line of the post, calling Mel Gibson a Christian bigot for making the film THAT SHE HAD NEVER SEEN was all her idea, NOT anything that was in the review she read. She's STILL never seen the movie, but my bet is that she will STILL claim to know that it's an example of Mel Gibson's Christian bigotry, and that she's RIGHT, damnit. She makes up the defamatory subject line of the post, and adds this at the end: To highlight what the writer tactfully leaves implicit, Gibson has slandered the Maya and mangled history for the purpose of exalting the purported superiority of Christianity. Judy doesn't NEED the actual experience of something to know all about it, you see. Same with Maharishi. Having meditated TM-style for decades, she made *one* feeble attempt to go see him, failed at that, and never felt the need to try to make another. But she'll tell you *exactly* how to interpret and understand every little thing that this guy she never met said, and claim to be RIGHT about it. I just like bringing up the Apocalypto thing because it's such Classic Judy -- making slander- ous statements about the director of a film she never bothered to see.
