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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip What a showcase for TM honesty this week has been, eh? If honesty was shit, you couldn't scrape enough off of Nabby, Off, and Judy to attract a single fly. A hungry fly. For the record, I have never, *ever* said anything about TM on FFL that I thought wasn't true, this week or any other. Nor about anything else, for that matter (unless it was an obviously intentional nonfactual statement for effect). For *Barry*, of all people, whose countless knowing lies have been documented here on a regular basis, to find fault with anybody else's honesty is so far beyond hypocritical it redefines the term. A further hypocrisy, of course, is that Barry has frequently accused TMers of claiming TM critics were lying simply because they disagreed. And here he's doing precisely the same thing himself. I mean, the jaw just drops. Why do you continually allege countless knowing lies when the only documentation ever proffered is your belief? By comparison, you make Off and Nabby seem trustworthy. Have you ever made a count of the number of people on FFL that you have accused of being dishonest? You seem distraught. Genuinely distraught. Knapp offers both telephone and online counseling. Maybe he could help you. http://knappfamilycounseling.com/contact.html 518.651.6490 Ethically, you do not have the right to state your belief as though what you believe were an established fact. -- Judy Stein ...over-the-top demonization is a sign that something just isn't right in the heads of those indulging in it. - Judy Stein, Vaj, like Barry, you're real good at swinging your dick. But when it comes time for consummation, it becomes as limp as an overcooked piece of cannned spaghetti.-- Judy Stein Yes, the jaw does drop.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip What a showcase for TM honesty this week has been, eh? If honesty was shit, you couldn't scrape enough off of Nabby, Off, and Judy to attract a single fly. A hungry fly. For the record, I have never, *ever* said anything about TM on FFL that I thought wasn't true, this week or any other. Nor about anything else, for that matter (unless it was an obviously intentional nonfactual statement for effect). For *Barry*, of all people, whose countless knowing lies have been documented here on a regular basis, to find fault with anybody else's honesty is so far beyond hypocritical it redefines the term. A further hypocrisy, of course, is that Barry has frequently accused TMers of claiming TM critics were lying simply because they disagreed. And here he's doing precisely the same thing himself. I mean, the jaw just drops. Why do you continually allege countless knowing lies when the only documentation ever proffered is your belief? Au contraire, Pierre. I mean document in the dictionary sense: 1 : to furnish documentary evidence of 2 : to furnish with documents 3 a : to provide with factual or substantial support for statements made or a hypothesis proposed; especially: to equip with exact references to authoritative supporting information This applies primarily (but not exclusively) with regard to his habit of misrepresenting what others have said here or on alt.m.t, or even what he himself has said. It doesn't seem to occur to him that there's a *record* of what has actually been said. Of course, he tells lots of lies that I *can't* document. I can't document, for example, that someone *never* said something he falsely attributes to them. But the sheer volume of his documentable misrepresentations *should* cause folks to realize that they really can't trust anything he says. Come to think of it, maybe I'm wrong about what you're suggesting. Are you acknowledging his misrepresentations but implying that I can't prove he *knows* they're misrepresentations, that he genuinely believes them? Because if that's the case, it would appear there's even more serious pathology involved than that of chronic lying. By comparison, you make Off and Nabby seem trustworthy. Have you ever made a count of the number of people on FFL that you have accused of being dishonest? Never made a count, no. Have you? You seem distraught. Genuinely distraught. You forget that I've been dealing with Barry's lies for 15 years. Why would I only now become distraught? Knapp offers both telephone and online counseling. Maybe he could help you. http://knappfamilycounseling.com/contact.html 518.651.6490 Ethically, you do not have the right to state your belief as though what you believe were an established fact. -- Judy Stein ...over-the-top demonization is a sign that something just isn't right in the heads of those indulging in it. - Judy Stein You probably should have checked out the original posts rather than picking the quotes up from Barry and assuming that he wasn't misrepresenting the context. The first referred to Barry having stated, as if it were an established fact--making a *huge* fuss about it--that I had lied about something which turned out to be completely true, having been confirmed by the person involved. (No apology when Barry found out he was wrong, not even an *acknowledgment* thereof.) Over-the-top demonization referred to accusations by Vaj that MMY had committed murder and torture of children. Be happy to provide you with documentation if you don't believe me. Vaj, like Barry, you're real good at swinging your dick. But when it comes time for consummation, it becomes as limp as an overcooked piece of cannned spaghetti.-- Judy Stein Gee, I thought this was a pretty good crack. Comes from alt.m.t back in 2005. Still true of both of them (metaphorically, of course). Actually, come to think of it, it's true of you as well. (I notice, by the way, that you don't address my point about Barry's hypocrisy in claiming that TMers are lying simply because he doesn't agree with them, when that's what he is constantly accusing *us* of doing.) Over and out for me this week...
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Yeah, Jerry Seinfeld, Ringo Starr, and Howard Stern are secret Hindus. At night they dress up in loin clothes and beads, and worship a statue of an elephant god, and sing hare krishna songs. OffWorld I know, why don't people listen to the Beatles more about TM, like when they all left India and wrote songs about what an opportunistic un-holy man Maharishi was Lol...now there's a conspiracy theory if ever I heard one. Those songs do not exist Curtis. You are living in la la land and the world of denial. I suppose you think Paul was dead when they brought out the St. Peppers album too? You know what goes good with crow Off? Whole cumin seeds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyTsi3By5w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyTsi3By5w lol, it doesn't even sound like John and Yoko's voice, and you won't find this in any historical archive, only posted by anonymous people on YouTube. Very suspicious.. But it really doesn't mean much, since John was always goofing around like that with everything. Hardly a damning statement that anyone would take seriously except psychotic TM-ex crowd. Yoko Ono learned the sidhis later, and was at the concert the other night. John had reconciled with his previous stress he felt, and wrote songs that sounded like they could have come out of Maharishi's mouth But we all shine on, like the moon and the stars and the sun, yea we all shine on ... on and on and on and on OffWorld
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Yeah, Jerry Seinfeld, Ringo Starr, and Howard Stern are secret Hindus. At night they dress up in loin clothes and beads, and worship a statue of an elephant god, and sing hare krishna songs. OffWorld I know, why don't people listen to the Beatles more about TM, like when they all left India and wrote songs about what an opportunistic un-holy man Maharishi was Lol...now there's a conspiracy theory if ever I heard one. Those songs do not exist Curtis. You are living in la la land and the world of denial. I suppose you think Paul was dead when they brought out the St. Peppers album too? You know what goes good with crow Off? Whole cumin seeds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyTsi3By5w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyTsi3By5w lol, it doesn't even sound like John and Yoko's voice, and you won't find this in any historical archive, only posted by anonymous people on YouTube. Very suspicious.. But it really doesn't mean much, since John was always goofing around like that with everything. Hardly a damning statement that anyone would take seriously except psychotic TM-ex crowd. Yoko Ono learned the sidhis later, and was at the concert the other night. John had reconciled with his previous stress he felt, and wrote songs that sounded like they could have come out of Maharishi's mouth But we all shine on, like the moon and the stars and the sun, yea we all shine on ... on and on and on and on OffWorld Off, you remind me of that old Richard Pryor joke when his then wife walked in on him in the act with some babe: Baby, are you going to believe me or those lying eyes of yours?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: Off, you remind me of that old Richard Pryor joke when his then wife walked in on him in the act with some babe: Baby, are you going to believe me or those lying eyes of yours? I think it was the same guys who collapsed the WTC buildings on top of that gold so they could steal the gold from underneath collapsed buildings. People don't realize what dead on mimics those guys were, so it could have been them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Yeah, Jerry Seinfeld, Ringo Starr, and Howard Stern are secret Hindus. At night they dress up in loin clothes and beads, and worship a statue of an elephant god, and sing hare krishna songs. OffWorld I know, why don't people listen to the Beatles more about TM, like when they all left India and wrote songs about what an opportunistic un-holy man Maharishi was Lol...now there's a conspiracy theory if ever I heard one. Those songs do not exist Curtis. You are living in la la land and the world of denial. I suppose you think Paul was dead when they brought out the St. Peppers album too? You know what goes good with crow Off? Whole cumin seeds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyTsi3By5w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyTsi3By5w lol, it doesn't even sound like John and Yoko's voice, and you won't find this in any historical archive, only posted by anonymous people on YouTube. Very suspicious.. But it really doesn't mean much, since John was always goofing around like that with everything. Hardly a damning statement that anyone would take seriously except psychotic TM-ex crowd. Yoko Ono learned the sidhis later, and was at the concert the other night. John had reconciled with his previous stress he felt, and wrote songs that sounded like they could have come out of Maharishi's mouth But we all shine on, like the moon and the stars and the sun, yea we all shine on ... on and on and on and on OffWorld Off, you remind me of that old Richard Pryor joke when his then wife walked in on him in the act with some babe: Baby, are you going to believe me or those lying eyes of yours?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfr...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyTsi3By5w lol, it doesn't even sound like John and Yoko's voice, and you won't find this in any historical archive, only posted by anonymous people on YouTube. Very suspicious.. But it really doesn't mean much, since John was always goofing around like that with everything. Hardly a damning statement that anyone would take seriously except psychotic TM-ex crowd. Yoko Ono learned the sidhis later, and was at the concert the other night. John had reconciled with his previous stress he felt, and wrote songs that sounded like they could have come out of Maharishi's mouth But we all shine on, like the moon and the stars and the sun, yea we all shine on ... on and on and on and on Off, you remind me of that old Richard Pryor joke when his then wife walked in on him in the act with some babe: Baby, are you going to believe me or those lying eyes of yours? To quote John Cleese, His mere presence here is depriving some village of its idiot. What a showcase for TM honesty this week has been, eh? If honesty was shit, you couldn't scrape enough off of Nabby, Off, and Judy to attract a single fly. A hungry fly. I am in a state of amazement at the state of consciousness of long-term TMers displayed on this forum. *Forget* any court case about whether TM is a religion...if anyone sane read the things that these 3 people post they'd warn their kids away from TM more strongly than they warn them away from drugs.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak geezerfreak@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyTsi3By5w lol, it doesn't even sound like John and Yoko's voice, and you won't find this in any historical archive, only posted by anonymous people on YouTube. Very suspicious.. But it really doesn't mean much, since John was always goofing around like that with everything. Hardly a damning statement that anyone would take seriously except psychotic TM-ex crowd. Yoko Ono learned the sidhis later, and was at the concert the other night. John had reconciled with his previous stress he felt, and wrote songs that sounded like they could have come out of Maharishi's mouth But we all shine on, like the moon and the stars and the sun, yea we all shine on ... on and on and on and on Off, you remind me of that old Richard Pryor joke when his then wife walked in on him in the act with some babe: Baby, are you going to believe me or those lying eyes of yours? To quote John Cleese, His mere presence here is depriving some village of its idiot. What a showcase for TM honesty this week has been, eh? If honesty was shit, you couldn't scrape enough off of Nabby, Off, and Judy to attract a single fly. A hungry fly. I am in a state of amazement at the state of consciousness of long-term TMers displayed on this forum. *Forget* any court case about whether TM is a religion...if anyone sane read the things that these 3 people post they'd warn their kids away from TM more strongly than they warn them away from drugs. But that would be faulty reasoning on the part of the parents -- a trait and habit I hope they would not pass on to their kids-- since it is way more dangerous to them and society than TM or drugs. Three people do not make a reasonable sample. To the extent their behavior exceeeds social norms, they are huge outliers. It's aa faulty as saying Paul, Jerry and Howard do TM and thus it will make me rich and famous. Its an interesting chicken and egg problem. Do we develop a hypothesis and then try to find data to substantiate it -- and perhaps unconsciously throw out data that does not support it? Or do we look at tons of data and try to wave a textured hypothesis that explains all the data, not just the fun stuff. The latter is harder, and way less flashy -- and doesn't make for good bar talk. Bummer. It can be so much fun.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I am in a state of amazement at the state of consciousness of long-term TMers displayed on this forum. *Forget* any court case about whether TM is a religion...if anyone sane read the things that these 3 people post they'd warn their kids away from TM more strongly than they warn them away from drugs. But that would be faulty reasoning on the part of the parents -- a trait and habit I hope they would not pass on to their kids-- since it is way more dangerous to them and society than TM or drugs. Three people do not make a reasonable sample. To the extent their behavior exceeeds social norms, they are huge outliers. It's aa faulty as saying Paul, Jerry and Howard do TM and thus it will make me rich and famous. Its an interesting chicken and egg problem. Do we develop a hypothesis and then try to find data to substantiate it -- and perhaps unconsciously throw out data that does not support it? Or do we look at tons of data and try to wave a textured hypothesis that explains all the data, not just the fun stuff. The latter is harder, and way less flashy -- and doesn't make for good bar talk. Bummer. It can be so much fun. Projection is an interesting concept -- explored in recent posts. In my mind, any great put down, or compliment, is potentially projection. When another sees extremes in others, good or bad, it raises in my mind the question -- how much of this is projection? I find there are several types of mindsets who use the projection card. Those who use it as a put down, and those who use it as a cautionary tale -- I see it in them, OMG, how much must I (or may be) projecting myslef. My observation is that the former rarely are sufficiently self-aware to see it in themselves. The latter, see it in others, and more so in themselves (and thus don't use projections on to others as a vehicle for put downs.)
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Projection is an interesting concept -- explored in recent posts. In my mind, any great put down, or compliment, is potentially projection. When another sees extremes in others, good or bad, it raises in my mind the question -- how much of this is projection? ---So when I am looking at Adrina Lima thinking how totally hot she is, I am just projecting my own inner hotness?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Projection is an interesting concept -- explored in recent posts. In my mind, any great put down, or compliment, is potentially projection. When another sees extremes in others, good or bad, it raises in my mind the question -- how much of this is projection? ---So when I am looking at Adrina Lima thinking how totally hot she is, I am just projecting my own inner hotness? You wish. L
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Projection is an interesting concept -- explored in recent posts. In my mind, any great put down, or compliment, is potentially projection. When another sees extremes in others, good or bad, it raises in my mind the question -- how much of this is projection? ---So when I am looking at Adrina Lima thinking how totally hot she is, I am just projecting my own inner hotness? Only you can say -- and possibly not even then. It brings up, in my mind, Plato's concepts of eternal forms. If Beauty is an etnernal form, and its found within each of us, then yes, seeing beauty in others is a projection of what is inside of us. But seeing beauty (or ugliness) in others might also be a compensating projection. That is, we lack something, and seeing more than meets the eye somehow fills that gap. Anyway, I am just speculating.
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Projection is an interesting concept -- explored in recent posts. In my mind, any great put down, or compliment, is potentially projection. When another sees extremes in others, good or bad, it raises in my mind the question -- how much of this is projection? ---So when I am looking at Adrina Lima thinking how totally hot she is, I am just projecting my own inner hotness? Only you can say -- and possibly not even then. It brings up, in my mind, Plato's concepts of eternal forms. If Beauty is an etnernal form, and its found within each of us, then yes, seeing beauty in others is a projection of what is inside of us. But seeing beauty (or ugliness) in others might also be a compensating projection. That is, we lack something, and seeing more than meets the eye somehow fills that gap. Anyway, I am just speculating. So I guess my point is that we have the seeds of projection within us, or we wouldn't reach out to others. We all come together in weakness to fill a lack. We don't generally count our qualities and bring them to others who lack, but the reverse, we consider our lack and reach out to others to fill it. Needs direct us, and I feel it's a more Maslowvian hierarchy, as well fulfiull certain needs we yet raise our sights to others to direct our interest.
[FairfieldLife] TM-ex crowd angry after 3 out of 4 Beatles support MMY - was /// Re: Transce
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip What a showcase for TM honesty this week has been, eh? If honesty was shit, you couldn't scrape enough off of Nabby, Off, and Judy to attract a single fly. A hungry fly. For the record, I have never, *ever* said anything about TM on FFL that I thought wasn't true, this week or any other. Nor about anything else, for that matter (unless it was an obviously intentional nonfactual statement for effect). For *Barry*, of all people, whose countless knowing lies have been documented here on a regular basis, to find fault with anybody else's honesty is so far beyond hypocritical it redefines the term. A further hypocrisy, of course, is that Barry has frequently accused TMers of claiming TM critics were lying simply because they disagreed. And here he's doing precisely the same thing himself. I mean, the jaw just drops.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip What a showcase for TM honesty this week has been, eh? If honesty was shit, you couldn't scrape enough off of Nabby, Off, and Judy to attract a single fly. A hungry fly. For the record, I have never, *ever* said anything about TM on FFL that I thought wasn't true, this week or any other. Nor about anything else, for that matter (unless it was an obviously intentional nonfactual statement for effect). For *Barry*, of all people, whose countless knowing lies have been documented here on a regular basis, to find fault with anybody else's honesty is so far beyond hypocritical it redefines the term. A further hypocrisy, of course, is that Barry has frequently accused TMers of claiming TM critics were lying simply because they disagreed. And here he's doing precisely the same thing himself. I mean, the jaw just drops. It is an amazing phenomena. There is a PHD thesis in here somewhere about how these guys are like the ranters on Fox News and somewhow rational discussion eludes them, whilst they rail against science, like some old 15th century fanatic priests trying to make themselves more important than modern rationalists OffWorld
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernha...@... wrote: Projection is an interesting concept -- explored in recent posts. In my mind, any great put down, or compliment, is potentially projection. When another sees extremes in others, good or bad, it raises in my mind the question -- how much of this is projection? ---So when I am looking at Adrina Lima thinking how totally hot she is, I am just projecting my own inner hotness? Only you can say -- and possibly not even then. It brings up, in my mind, Plato's concepts of eternal forms. If Beauty is an etnernal form, and its found within each of us, then yes, seeing beauty in others is a projection of what is inside of us. But seeing beauty (or ugliness) in others might also be a compensating projection. That is, we lack something, and seeing more than meets the eye somehow fills that gap. Anyway, I am just speculating. So I guess my point is that we have the seeds of projection within us, or we wouldn't reach out to others. We all come together in weakness to fill a lack. We don't generally count our qualities and bring them to others who lack, but the reverse, we consider our lack and reach out to others to fill it. Needs direct us, and I feel it's a more Maslowvian hierarchy, as well fulfiull certain needs we yet raise our sights to others to direct our interest. I think it works at both ends of the spectrum. When we are empty and flawed, we see that in others. Partly as a means to delude ourselves and to feel superior (certainly the need to feel superior is born of some great lack or emptiness inside). I may be a shithole, but if I see shitholness in you, and contrast my self to you, I feel better -- temporarily. Its a defense mechanism to not face our own shitholeness. To escape that pain of facing it. On the other hand, when you are happy or in love, the whole world seems that way -- life is wonderful, people of all sorts are wonderful, even pain can be seen as a joyful thing. And I don't necessarily think projection is bad. I think its the natural way of human perception and dominates it. Its always through our own glasses -- rose colored or through a glass darkly. Its bad when we project negative things on to things that are not inherently negative. But UC or BC are simply the ultimate projection -- everything in term of the unboundedness of the Self.
