Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Oh my God, I can't believe I'm just answering you! Well, out of town most of yesterday. Anyway, I'm good thanks. How about you? I think one has to be a woman to grok the offensiveness of the c word. Not sure if there's any word comparable in the male world. I'm glad you participate here too, lurking no more (-: From: seventhray1 lurkernomore20002...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! Hey Share, como sa va? I understand how you might be offended by Barry's comment. I mean out of context it appears far worse than it is, at least IMO. But the crudeness of the comment does not seem to be the issue, at least with Raunchy and Judy. The issue is whether or not it is a death threat. And they are trying to make the case that it is, and I'm afraid they have fallen short in that regard. Oh, I'm glad you participate here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: I would not call it a death threat. But extreme vicious. OTOH, I climb on no bandwagons but ones of my own choosing. If that's doubling down, then so be it. I understand that this has been going on for years. For me, only a very short time. Hoping that enables me to add compassion and reasonableness and unbiting unbaiting humor. And I'm probably gonna make more mistakes along the way.   PS Too late! I'm sure I've already been a laughingstock. So far I find that I can live with it. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Yep, I can be an idiot sometimes. But I think your dumb c joke was well over the vicious line. As was your post about Judy's gig which I replied to earlier... Would you characterize it as a death threat? They did. And, when numerous posters here suggested what laughingstocks they were making of themselves by so claiming, they doubled down, and have continued to do so to this day. My riff may well have been vicious, but then you weren't there to see what both of these women posted day after day during the last election season with their obsessions about Obama and his supporters. And it was all a long shaggy dog story leading up to the punchline of the joke, a riff on Liar, liar, pants on fire. Methinks you're doubling down a bit yourself. If you deny this, climb on board the Raunchy- Judy bandwagon and call my joke a death threat too. And become a laughingstock yourself. YOU haven't been the target of Judy's obsession for years. Curtis and I have, as have Vaj and many others here. But mark my words, you *will* be if you continue to commit the Cardinal Sin of liking people she doesn't want you to like.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
No Curtis baby - you have totally disarmed me with that baby Krishna comment. It will take me several days to recover if at all. Now I think you and Barry are two of the most sweetest, gentlest, kindest, naughtiest, playful people in the world. You are the baby Krishnas of FFL - sure the women may be abused as ugly, vindictive cunts too stupid to live but trust me you guys invoke nothing but maternal love in the Judys, Raunchys, Anns as their hearts are warmed, gladdened by your tiny fingerprints, handprints on their pots of curds and ghee, footprints that lead to the swings and slides. Their whole day is a breeze, reminscing your sweet memories as they exchange your heartwarming, playful, naughty abuses and insults. Love, Ravi On Sep 19, 2012, at 7:14 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: R: Goofing up, M: I didn't say that, I meant what I said about your use of words. R: getting a bit carried away doesn't cut it Curtis. M: Well that is as far as I was willing to go, however after reading this I am not so sure. R: Oh no - sleight of hand again Curtis, the term I used was threaten and not threat, there's lot of difference - and threaten is not an inflammatory word, did you not read the various meanings of the word threaten? M: This is probably not your best route with me Ravi. I have a home court English as a first language advantage here and I'm not buying your explanation, sorry. R: You are completely clueless to your behavior - how you manipulate, twist context, facts M: Examples would help more than vague assertions on parade. You may not have a good grasp on what the word fact refers to. R: to bully, M: I have not power differential with anyone here that would allow this. Bulling is a serious charge and I don't take it lightly. I don't have any power over you Ravi, we are just talking here. R: avoid answering real questions M: Which questions exactly? Your rhetorical ones? Give some examples. R: and cry wolf. M: Here we will have to agree to disagree. I have real issues with your behavior here. R: Curtis Reality of Things as my old man called it and 7 layered deception, progressively baser, cruder, grosser as I call it. M: Are you trying to sound like one of those mystic yogi guys cuz I've kinda been there and done that. If you are trying to communicate more than gibberish, try defining the 7 levels of deception for us. Oh one more thing. Sal never threatened or made a threat to Emily in that email. I don't want you to miss that point in all the fun we are having with the yogi word salad talk. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:19 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: I really believe that you shouldn't have said that about Sal's post and I don't find your explanations convincing. The false comparative about physical harm doesn't fly either. The term threatis an inflammatory word and you chose if for that reason. But I read it and it was not a threatening email. It was much like so much of what goes on here every day. But if you want to goof on me for drama queening the whole thing up too far, I can live with that. Perhaps I did get a bit carried away. Goofing up, getting a bit carried away doesn't cut it Curtis. Oh no - sleight of hand again Curtis, the term I used was threaten and not threat, there's lot of difference - and threaten is not an inflammatory word, did you not read the various meanings of the word threaten? You are completely clueless to your behavior - how you manipulate, twist context, facts to bully, avoid answering real questions and cry wolf. Curtis Reality of Things as my old man called it and 7 layered deception, progressively baser, cruder, grosser as I call it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:41 AM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ ...wrote: So, take a break; a pepsi break,my good freind... Read in the Bagavad Gita as Krishna says to Arjuna, 'Know Anger to be the Enemy here on Earth; and the need to over come our anger and hatred toward each other...so we may 'See' clearly, my great warriour one... R. Babaji - Thank you so much for your concern - Anger, hate is just on the surface, something to playfully indulge in. I'm forever on a break, always relaxed - don't drink Pepsi though - Coffee a Smoke..singing to my beloved. http://youtu.be/pPxyTFwOW0Y Thanks dear Raunchy - I enjoyed the longer version too ::-) - http://youtu.be/49tTzEifY6M
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
On Sep 19, 2012, at 11:37 AM, Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us wrote: Ravi Chivukula: ...footprints that lead to the swings and slides. Now they're 'swinging and sliding' down the rabbit hole. LoL! So it's all about swinging and sliding down rabbit holes. Go figure! LoL! No Curtis baby - you have totally disarmed me with that baby Krishna comment. It will take me several days to recover if at all.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
dear Ravi, you can add me to the Curtis Susan Steven clique. Thank you, Share PS I really don't like to be in any clique but in this ongoing conflict between the absent Emily and Sal, hope you can see the irony in that, I choose to align myself with the clique that is overall being the most positive and sensible. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:05 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Right, it's much more effective to keep smacking Curtis in the mouth when he gets like this, because his appetite for deception and cruelty is insatiable once he lets down the Mr. Wonderful facade. That is disturbing in many ways. There is something profoundly unwell in this language, with its violent imagery and disjointed, fantastic claims about me. It is also disturbing to see how much of the hatred she bears for you is based on simple JEALOUSY. No matter how hard she tries -- and lawdy, lawdy how she tries -- she can't get everyone to hate you. People still like you, and in fact, think of you as a nice person. NO ONE thinks of her that way. And she knows this, and knows that the only way she can get people to even be on her side is through the same deception and cruelty she accuses you of. Because those are the only tactics that work *for her* to get attention, she believes you must be using them, too. It never even *occurs* to her that people think you're a nice guy because you're a nice guy. That's how far gone into this hatred/jealousy thing she is. The language in this post negates any need for me to write a disclaimer about the author. Read her own words and you will understand what I am dealing with here. Even more interesting, since people are talking about what went wrong with Fairfield Life to make it all so nasty and contentious, she's been on such a hate-fest trying to smear Curtis that she only has eight or so more posts left for the week. She'll probably piss those away today with insane replies to Curtis' calm, measured, unaffected-by-the-crazy- person-stalking-him posts, and then she'll have to go silent for the rest of the week. Those who wonder what happened to FFL to make it so nasty, *pay attention* during the period when Judy can't post. See if it isn't quite a bit nicer then. Just sayin'... So Judy made Sal threaten Emily and made Curtis act like a clueless, shameless fool here? Take your emotionally stunted, depraved, deranged, paranoid, delusional fantasies out of here Barry baby. You and Curtis are the ones that stink up this joint with your needy, whiny, drama-queeenery, your deception, manipulation, lying - man what a bunch of clueless, shameless fools - all you have is the village idiot Steve and equally idiotic Susan's support - wow what a clique..LOL..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Agreed. There have been a few times during the last 2 weeks when Judy's language has been quite extreme. I hope whatever is causing this imbalance in her gets cleared up soon. Mainly for her sake but for ours too. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Judy: Right, it's much more effective to keep smacking Curtis in the mouth when he gets like this, because his appetite for deception and cruelty is insatiable once he lets down the Mr. Wonderful facade. Curtis: That is disturbing in many ways. There is something profoundly unwell in this language, with its violent imagery and disjointed, fantastic claims about me. The language in this post negates any need for me to write a disclaimer about the author. Read her own words and you will understand what I am dealing with here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: R: You may be cool with Emily, Curtis, but I doubt she's cool with you. M: Does the thought of that excite you? Are you acting as a peacekeeper here Raunchy? Trying to help Emily and I smooth out a misunderstanding maybe? DNFTT Right, it's much more effective to keep smacking Curtis in the mouth when he gets like this, because his appetite for deception and cruelty is insatiable once he lets down the Mr. Wonderful facade.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
IMO Barry should have been thrown off after dumb c death comment. Wasn't here so don't know more details. Re current bloody image situation: that foul's on Judy. Only her words expressed direct violence against someone. Seems to help clarity to stick to current situation as much as possible. Also understand about unfinished business. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Judy: Right, it's much more effective to keep smacking Curtis in the mouth when he gets like this, because his appetite for deception and cruelty is insatiable once he lets down the Mr. Wonderful facade. Curtis: That is disturbing in many ways. There is something profoundly unwell in this language, with its violent imagery and disjointed, fantastic claims about me. The language in this post negates any need for me to write a disclaimer about the author. Read her own words and you will understand what I am dealing with here. LOL. Curtis to raunchydog: Does the word brutally' make you think of blood, how it smells? The warmth on your tongue, before it clots with its delicious mineral taste, somewhere between liver and raw steak. Curtis to Robin: The fact that it might bug me to have my name signed to a post that makes me out to be an effete drama teacher who revels in fey triumphalist statements went over the heads of the troll revelers, intoxicated with their sturdy goblets of human baby blood as they danced around the flickering flames of having taunted someone online and gotten him to respond. Judy, I was going to suggest that Curtis stop clutching his pearls, but you beat me to it. Oh and just to dig up an old bone, what about Curtis neglecting to notify the authorities to start legal proceedings against his pal Barry for making a death threat, Dumb cunts, too stupid to live against you and me? Just sayn'.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Yep, I can be an idiot sometimes. But I think your dumb c joke was well over the vicious line. As was your post about Judy's gig which I replied to earlier thusly: This foul's on you, Turq. Clever but gratuitous negativity. Especially nasty as she's currently involved in conflicts with others. Like kicking someone when they're down. Not unfair fighting. Dirty fighting. Keeps you and Judy locked in a destructive dance that often engulfs FFL. OTOH, I liked your recent posts about Maya and Weeds. Ugh! Brain stretching to encompass such a polarity. Dear Everyone, As best I can, and with posting limit ever in mind, I will be responding on a case by case basis. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: IMO Barry should have been thrown off after dumb c death comment. Wasn't here so don't know more details. No, you don't, you idiot. My comment was part of an obvious JOKE. Here is the full joke, so that you can't pretend you don't know the full context both Judy and Raunchy continually try to take it out of: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/194006 Obama would like to thank Judy, Raunchydog, and the Repubs... ...for winning the election for them. (see article below) Ironically, the more that the tag-team of Republican crazies and former-Hillary-supporter crazies rant and post negative screeds about Obama, the lower Repub- lican poll ratings sink (Palin's favorability rating *in Alaska* is now only 36%), and the more money that Obama is able to raise for the campaign. In related news, a poll conducted at bellweather Internet chat site Fairfield Life indicates that the popularity rating on that site for posters Raunchydog and Judy Stein (considered representative of Republican tactics) has dropped in the last week from the next-to- lowest Category Y (Strident revenge harpies from Hell) to the lowest possible Category Z (Dumb angry cunts too stupid to live.) Experts are studying the possibility that, since there is no lower level to sink to in terms of favorability ratings, if Raunchydog and Judy continue their anti- Obama activism at this point, something more drastic may happen to the two activists -- actually bursting into flame. Scientists from MUM have been called in to watch the situation and study it in terms of the Maharishi Effect. If, as theorized, Raunchydog and Judy Stein DO get so uncontrollably angry that they burst into flames, teams of scientists are in place to capture the event on film so that it can later be analyzed to see if, as described in the Vedas, the spontaneous combustion event really does start in their pants.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
I would not call it a death threat. But extreme vicious. OTOH, I climb on no bandwagons but ones of my own choosing. If that's doubling down, then so be it. I understand that this has been going on for years. For me, only a very short time. Hoping that enables me to add compassion and reasonableness and unbiting unbaiting humor. And I'm probably gonna make more mistakes along the way. PS Too late! I'm sure I've already been a laughingstock. So far I find that I can live with it. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Yep, I can be an idiot sometimes. But I think your dumb c joke was well over the vicious line. As was your post about Judy's gig which I replied to earlier... Would you characterize it as a death threat? They did. And, when numerous posters here suggested what laughingstocks they were making of themselves by so claiming, they doubled down, and have continued to do so to this day. My riff may well have been vicious, but then you weren't there to see what both of these women posted day after day during the last election season with their obsessions about Obama and his supporters. And it was all a long shaggy dog story leading up to the punchline of the joke, a riff on Liar, liar, pants on fire. Methinks you're doubling down a bit yourself. If you deny this, climb on board the Raunchy- Judy bandwagon and call my joke a death threat too. And become a laughingstock yourself. YOU haven't been the target of Judy's obsession for years. Curtis and I have, as have Vaj and many others here. But mark my words, you *will* be if you continue to commit the Cardinal Sin of liking people she doesn't want you to like.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:21 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: So Judy made Sal threaten Emily snip M: This is instructive in how things spin out of control here. Remember my objections to Ann's use of words like traumatizing and vicious attack Raunchy's brutally in their imagination of an email they have not seen? Egged on by Judy's insinuations of how egregious it was (I disagree)those hoping for an excitement buzz escalated what was said to make it all more newsworthy. And now we have the last step. (I hope) Ravi has now turned this imagination of the email into an online threat. It is one of his favorite troll tactics and he has used it before. Online threats, unlike the usual FFL slander machine, are a felony in some states and are a growing concern monitored by law enforcement and lawyers concerned about liability. If something actually happens after it is claimed that an online threat has been made, families sue everyone in sight. The language we use here matters. Please stop turning your opinion about what someone wrote (that you haven't even read) into something more exciting by making it sound more sinister. It pushes the bent tack in the box toward this kind of claim that is not only not fair to Sal, it is really irresponsible considering who posts here. Ravi, please retract your claim that this email contained something threatening. It did not. Not even close. This was wrong for you to put on a public board. Curtis baby - stop this manipulation, stop this twisting, this deception, the bullying, the rewriting of other's biographies and autobiographies - this Curtis Reality of Things - you have gone too far Curtis.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Oh no ! NO - dear Aunt Share - no, this nephew of yours can't do that, no, never, never, never !!! Love, Ravi On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: ** dear Ravi, you can add me to the Curtis Susan Steven clique. Thank you, Share PS I really don't like to be in any clique but in this ongoing conflict between the absent Emily and Sal, hope you can see the irony in that, I choose to align myself with the clique that is overall being the most positive and sensible. -- *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:58 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:05 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Right, it's much more effective to keep smacking Curtis in the mouth when he gets like this, because his appetite for deception and cruelty is insatiable once he lets down the Mr. Wonderful facade. That is disturbing in many ways. There is something profoundly unwell in this language, with its violent imagery and disjointed, fantastic claims about me. It is also disturbing to see how much of the hatred she bears for you is based on simple JEALOUSY. No matter how hard she tries -- and lawdy, lawdy how she tries -- she can't get everyone to hate you. People still like you, and in fact, think of you as a nice person. NO ONE thinks of her that way. And she knows this, and knows that the only way she can get people to even be on her side is through the same deception and cruelty she accuses you of. Because those are the only tactics that work *for her* to get attention, she believes you must be using them, too. It never even *occurs* to her that people think you're a nice guy because you're a nice guy. That's how far gone into this hatred/jealousy thing she is. The language in this post negates any need for me to write a disclaimer about the author. Read her own words and you will understand what I am dealing with here. Even more interesting, since people are talking about what went wrong with Fairfield Life to make it all so nasty and contentious, she's been on such a hate-fest trying to smear Curtis that she only has eight or so more posts left for the week. She'll probably piss those away today with insane replies to Curtis' calm, measured, unaffected-by-the-crazy- person-stalking-him posts, and then she'll have to go silent for the rest of the week. Those who wonder what happened to FFL to make it so nasty, *pay attention* during the period when Judy can't post. See if it isn't quite a bit nicer then. Just sayin'... So Judy made Sal threaten Emily and made Curtis act like a clueless, shameless fool here? Take your emotionally stunted, depraved, deranged, paranoid, delusional fantasies out of here Barry baby. You and Curtis are the ones that stink up this joint with your needy, whiny, drama-queeenery, your deception, manipulation, lying - man what a bunch of clueless, shameless fools - all you have is the village idiot Steve and equally idiotic Susan's support - wow what a clique..LOL..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Curtis baby, Check the dictionary you dumb fuck and then STFU. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Curtis baby - stop this manipulation, stop this twisting, this deception, the bullying, the rewriting of other's biographies and autobiographies - this Curtis Reality of Things - you have gone too far Curtis. M: OK, I'll give you a chance to be rational and shut me down. Tell us why you said this: So Judy made Sal threaten Emily Why did you use the word threaten to describe an email you haven't read? How have I twisted what you said into something you didn't mean? Raunchy is busy trying to spin what you said as not meaning what you said, so this really is a great opportunity for you to correct me. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:21 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: So Judy made Sal threaten Emily snip M: This is instructive in how things spin out of control here. Remember my objections to Ann's use of words like traumatizing and vicious attack Raunchy's brutally in their imagination of an email they have not seen? Egged on by Judy's insinuations of how egregious it was (I disagree)those hoping for an excitement buzz escalated what was said to make it all more newsworthy. And now we have the last step. (I hope) Ravi has now turned this imagination of the email into an online threat. It is one of his favorite troll tactics and he has used it before. Online threats, unlike the usual FFL slander machine, are a felony in some states and are a growing concern monitored by law enforcement and lawyers concerned about liability. If something actually happens after it is claimed that an online threat has been made, families sue everyone in sight. The language we use here matters. Please stop turning your opinion about what someone wrote (that you haven't even read) into something more exciting by making it sound more sinister. It pushes the bent tack in the box toward this kind of claim that is not only not fair to Sal, it is really irresponsible considering who posts here. Ravi, please retract your claim that this email contained something threatening. It did not. Not even close. This was wrong for you to put on a public board. Curtis baby - stop this manipulation, stop this twisting, this deception, the bullying, the rewriting of other's biographies and autobiographies - this Curtis Reality of Things - you have gone too far Curtis.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Curtis baby - her you go dumb fuck and please now STFU threat·en *verb* \ˈthre-tən\ *threat·ened**threat·en·ing* Definition of *THREATEN* transitive verb 1 *:* to utter threats http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/threats against 2 *a* *:* to give signs or warning of *:* portendhttp://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/portend the clouds*threaten**ed* rain *b* *:* to hang over dangerously *:* menacehttp://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/menace famine *threaten**s*the city 3 *:* to announce as intended or possible the workers*threaten**ed* a strike 4 *:* to cause to feel insecure or anxious felt *threaten**ed* by his brother's success intransitive verb 1 *:* to utter threats 2 *:* to portend evil — *threat·en·er* *noun* — *threat·en·ing·ly* *adverb* See threaten defined for English-language learners »http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/threaten See threaten defined for kids »http://www.wordcentral.com/cgi-bin/student?book=Studentva=threaten Examples of *THREATEN* 1. The mugger *threatened* him with a gun. 2. She *threatened* to quit if they didn't give her a raise, but no one believed her. 3. Civil war has been *threatening* the country for years. 4. a marriage *threatened* by financial problems 5. Overfishing *threatens* the survival of certain fish species. 6. The latest news *threatens* trouble for the economy. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Curtis baby, Check the dictionary you dumb fuck and then STFU. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Curtis baby - stop this manipulation, stop this twisting, this deception, the bullying, the rewriting of other's biographies and autobiographies - this Curtis Reality of Things - you have gone too far Curtis. M: OK, I'll give you a chance to be rational and shut me down. Tell us why you said this: So Judy made Sal threaten Emily Why did you use the word threaten to describe an email you haven't read? How have I twisted what you said into something you didn't mean? Raunchy is busy trying to spin what you said as not meaning what you said, so this really is a great opportunity for you to correct me. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:21 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: So Judy made Sal threaten Emily snip M: This is instructive in how things spin out of control here. Remember my objections to Ann's use of words like traumatizing and vicious attack Raunchy's brutally in their imagination of an email they have not seen? Egged on by Judy's insinuations of how egregious it was (I disagree)those hoping for an excitement buzz escalated what was said to make it all more newsworthy. And now we have the last step. (I hope) Ravi has now turned this imagination of the email into an online threat. It is one of his favorite troll tactics and he has used it before. Online threats, unlike the usual FFL slander machine, are a felony in some states and are a growing concern monitored by law enforcement and lawyers concerned about liability. If something actually happens after it is claimed that an online threat has been made, families sue everyone in sight. The language we use here matters. Please stop turning your opinion about what someone wrote (that you haven't even read) into something more exciting by making it sound more sinister. It pushes the bent tack in the box toward this kind of claim that is not only not fair to Sal, it is really irresponsible considering who posts here. Ravi, please retract your claim that this email contained something threatening. It did not. Not even close. This was wrong for you to put on a public board. Curtis baby - stop this manipulation, stop this twisting, this deception, the bullying, the rewriting of other's biographies and autobiographies - this Curtis Reality of Things - you have gone too far Curtis.
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So Curtis baby, continuing our English lesson - Emily would be #4 based on the dictionary meaning of threaten = 4 *:* to cause to feel insecure or anxious . So Emily was threatened by Sal's email, i.e. made to feel insecure, made to feel anxious. OMG..LOL, I can't believe I'm doing this, anyway I have enough posts. Let's see how you spin this. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Curtis baby - her you go dumb fuck and please now STFU threat·en *verb* \ˈthre-tən\ *threat·ened**threat·en·ing* Definition of *THREATEN* transitive verb 1 *:* to utter threats http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/threats against 2 *a* *:* to give signs or warning of *:* portendhttp://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/portend the clouds*threaten**ed* rain *b* *:* to hang over dangerously *:* menacehttp://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/menace famine *threaten**s*the city 3 *:* to announce as intended or possible the workers*threaten**ed* a strike 4 *:* to cause to feel insecure or anxious felt *threaten**ed* by his brother's success intransitive verb 1 *:* to utter threats 2 *:* to portend evil — *threat·en·er* *noun* — *threat·en·ing·ly* *adverb* See threaten defined for English-language learners »http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/threaten See threaten defined for kids »http://www.wordcentral.com/cgi-bin/student?book=Studentva=threaten Examples of *THREATEN* 1. The mugger *threatened* him with a gun. 2. She *threatened* to quit if they didn't give her a raise, but no one believed her. 3. Civil war has been *threatening* the country for years. 4. a marriage *threatened* by financial problems 5. Overfishing *threatens* the survival of certain fish species. 6. The latest news *threatens* trouble for the economy. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Curtis baby, Check the dictionary you dumb fuck and then STFU. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:04 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Curtis baby - stop this manipulation, stop this twisting, this deception, the bullying, the rewriting of other's biographies and autobiographies - this Curtis Reality of Things - you have gone too far Curtis. M: OK, I'll give you a chance to be rational and shut me down. Tell us why you said this: So Judy made Sal threaten Emily Why did you use the word threaten to describe an email you haven't read? How have I twisted what you said into something you didn't mean? Raunchy is busy trying to spin what you said as not meaning what you said, so this really is a great opportunity for you to correct me. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:21 AM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: So Judy made Sal threaten Emily snip M: This is instructive in how things spin out of control here. Remember my objections to Ann's use of words like traumatizing and vicious attack Raunchy's brutally in their imagination of an email they have not seen? Egged on by Judy's insinuations of how egregious it was (I disagree)those hoping for an excitement buzz escalated what was said to make it all more newsworthy. And now we have the last step. (I hope) Ravi has now turned this imagination of the email into an online threat. It is one of his favorite troll tactics and he has used it before. Online threats, unlike the usual FFL slander machine, are a felony in some states and are a growing concern monitored by law enforcement and lawyers concerned about liability. If something actually happens after it is claimed that an online threat has been made, families sue everyone in sight. The language we use here matters. Please stop turning your opinion about what someone wrote (that you haven't even read) into something more exciting by making it sound more sinister. It pushes the bent tack in the box toward this kind of claim that is not only not fair to Sal, it is really irresponsible considering who posts here. Ravi, please retract your claim that this email contained something threatening. It did not. Not even close. This was wrong for you to put on a public board. Curtis baby - stop this manipulation, stop this twisting, this deception, the bullying, the rewriting of other's biographies and autobiographies - this Curtis Reality of Things - you have gone too far Curtis.
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:07 PM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: So Curtis baby, continuing our English lesson - Emily would be #4 based on the dictionary meaning of threaten = 4 *:* to cause to feel insecure or anxious . So Emily was threatened by Sal's email, i.e. made to feel insecure, made to feel anxious. OMG..LOL, I can't believe I'm doing this, anyway I have enough posts. Let's see how you spin this. O.K. Ravi, if you want dance to Curtis' tune and split some hairs on definitions, fine. Just know that doing so, you're unnecessarily buying into how he frames this issue rather than recognizing that in fact you posed a question that Curtis snipped to deceptively imply that you claimed Sal sent a threatening email to Emily. Oh, well, carry on, dear heart. I said my piece. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/320445 Yes dear Raunchy I did read your other posts - thanks for your clarification, it was indeed a rhetorical question of mine to address their hypocrisy. But I just wanted to make sure he realizes that even this sleight of hand leads to a dead end.
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:37 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** I appreciate your taking a swing at it. I don't think much spinning is necessary. You gave the project so little thought. Any thoughtful person would understand what went down here. And it probably wasn't that you did some research beforehand to pick the 4th use of the term,and then used it improperly according to the dictionary, but properly for the first few definitions deliberately. You've just turned in sloppy work because of your over confidence and contempt for me. Curtis - it was a rhetorical question of mine to point to the deception, manipulation, bullying you engage in here. Even if it meant literally I would be nuts to think Sal would have meant any physical harm to Emily - so no sloppy work here Curtis, contempt on my part - yes, your usual sleight of hand - yes, your usual twisting, manipulating context - yes, your seven layered progressively cruder,baser,grosser deception - yes. At least now I can go back to Raunchy's spin with some more insight into your thinking process. That later post about her spin was a classic. I'll bet you never got away stealing any curds and ghee, did you baby Krishna? LOL..OK this is seriously funny. Oh no I am very deceptive, but unlike you it's not to maintain my self-deception. Anyway what a shame - a talented man like you has to resort to all this drama !!! Looks like you need some love and attention - so XOXOXOXOXO - love ya baby. Ravi
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:37 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** I appreciate your taking a swing at it. I don't think much spinning is necessary. You gave the project so little thought. Any thoughtful person would understand what went down here. And it probably wasn't that you did some research beforehand to pick the 4th use of the term,and then used it improperly according to the dictionary, but properly for the first few definitions deliberately. You've just turned in sloppy work because of your over confidence and contempt for me. Curtis - it was a rhetorical question of mine to point to the deception, manipulation, bullying you engage in here. Even if it meant literally I would be nuts to think Sal would have meant any physical harm to Emily - so no sloppy work here Curtis, contempt on my part - yes, your usual sleight of hand - yes, your usual twisting, manipulating context - yes, your seven layered progressively cruder,baser,grosser deception - yes. At least now I can go back to Raunchy's spin with some more insight into your thinking process. That later post about her spin was a classic. I'll bet you never got away stealing any curds and ghee, did you baby Krishna? LOL..OK this is seriously funny. Oh no I am very deceptive, but unlike you it's not to maintain my self-deception. Anyway what a shame - a talented man like you has to resort to all this drama !!! Looks like you need some love and attention - so XOXOXOXOXO - love ya baby. Ravi You reference to baby Krishna completely dissipated my anger but trust me Curtis baby I will keep coming after you. Even the Raakshasas temporarily won my divine Mother's favor by doing something similar, so no I will keep after you Curtis - my metaphorical Raakshasa of deception, my favorite, the 7 layered one. So I will - my mind now is too distracted reminiscing on my beloved and so I'm not able to post much.
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:19 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: I really believe that you shouldn't have said that about Sal's post and I don't find your explanations convincing. The false comparative about physical harm doesn't fly either. The term threatis an inflammatory word and you chose if for that reason. But I read it and it was not a threatening email. It was much like so much of what goes on here every day. But if you want to goof on me for drama queening the whole thing up too far, I can live with that. Perhaps I did get a bit carried away. Goofing up, getting a bit carried away doesn't cut it Curtis. Oh no - sleight of hand again Curtis, the term I used was threaten and not threat, there's lot of difference - and threaten is not an inflammatory word, did you not read the various meanings of the word threaten? You are completely clueless to your behavior - how you manipulate, twist context, facts to bully, avoid answering real questions and cry wolf. Curtis Reality of Things as my old man called it and 7 layered deception, progressively baser, cruder, grosser as I call it.
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Robert babajii...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ ...wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:37 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote I appreciate your taking a swing at it. I don't think much spinning is necessary. You gave the project so little thought. Any thoughtful person would understand what went down here. And it probably wasn't that you did some research beforehand to pick the 4th use of the term,and then used it improperly according to the dictionary, but properly for the first few definitions deliberately. You've just turned in sloppy work because of your over confidence and contempt for me. Curtis - it was a rhetorical question of mine to point to the deception, manipulation, bullying you engage in here. Even if it meant literally I would be nuts to think Sal would have meant any physical harm to Emily - so no sloppy work here Curtis, contempt on my part - yes, your usual sleight of hand - yes, your usual twisting, manipulating context - yes, your seven layered progressively cruder,baser,grosser deception - yes. At least now I can go back to Raunchy's spin with some more insight into your thinking process. That later post about her spin was a classic. I'll bet you never got away stealing any curds and ghee, did you baby Krishna? LOL..OK this is seriously funny. Oh no I am very deceptive, but unlike you it's not to maintain my self-deception. Anyway what a shame - a talented man like you has to resort to all this drama !!! Looks like you need some love and attention - so XOXOXOXOXO - love ya baby. Ravi You reference to baby Krishna completely dissipated my anger but trust me Curtis baby I will keep coming after you. Even the Raakshasas temporarily won my divine Mother's favor by doing something similar, so no I will keep after you Curtis - my metaphorical Raakshasa of deception, my favorite, the 7 layered one. So I will - my mind now is too distracted reminiscing on my beloved and so I'm not able to post much. While you are reminiscing on your beloved, be sure to take a break from hateing...that will help you begin to open your closed heart again, and get out of your head... Feeding your anger with more anger is not the way, my friend... And it will never be the way back to your Beloved... So, take a break; a pepsi break,my good freind... Read in the Bagavad Gita as Krishna says to Arjuna, 'Know Anger to be the Enemy here on Earth; and the need to over come our anger and hatred toward each other...so we may 'See' clearly, my great warriour one... R. Babaji - Thank you so much for your concern - Anger, hate is just on the surface, something to playfully indulge in. I'm forever on a break, always relaxed - don't drink Pepsi though - Coffee a Smoke..singing to my beloved.
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Maybe like a combo of enigma and origami From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: So Emily and I are cool now. Have fun with whatever this thing is that seems to interest you. Have fun believing that you and Emily are cool now. I'm pretty sure that if you play the song Imagine backwards, it generates one of your posts. Imagine backwards almost spells enigma but not quite.
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And I haven't stepped into the fray until now for the same reason: I haven't seen the email that Sal sent Emily. Is that not possible? I know first hand from last week how complicated this kind of conflict can become. And then all the piling on complicates matters even more. Plus Emily is on vacation and Sal is still lurking! Maybe these things do take on a life of their own so that the main participants don't even have to be present! From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: ME: Jesus, did someone call a meeting? A: Here is the thing, the email, according to Curtis, was supportive and ego-stroking to Curtis. M: Sorry to intrude in the fantasy, but there was no ego stroking. She was defending me for something she believed to be unfair. A: When that happens and yet the other side of the email was allegedly an unwarranted and vicious attack on Emily, Curtis appears to not be able to get beyond the fact that he liked the email because Sal was complimentary to him. M: Sorry spin sister, no go. Even Judy didn't try this routine and she read it. A: If he really has no problem with Emily (and frankly, why should he?) then he should have understood and admitted that Sal's email to Emily was harsh, ugly, unjustified. M: Unless that isn't how I viewed it. A: Instead of liking the email because it was good for his ego he should have (if he had any respect or reasonable feeling for Emily's position) M: Now you are really running with that ball you created aren't you? A: gotten beyond his subjective support of this otherwise mean-spirited and traumatizing correspondence and called it for what it was. M: And that would be because someone else's subjective opinion about the letter is the right one? I don't agree with Judy or Emily about how horrible the letter was. You tipped your hand a bit far with the word traumatizing. I think you and Raunchy are being a bit too eager to please Judy. I don't see any reason to think Emily was traumatized by the email. Nor should she have been. I read it. A: That has not happened and therefore I question Curtis' intentions and values not to mention his motives for treating Emily badly by not supporting her and understanding where she was coming from in her pain. But maybe that is asking too much. M: Feeling a little mean today? Emily and I are fine, sorry to disappoint. At least I am fine with her and our last exchange was very friendly and full of understanding and tolerance for each others differences. The very qualities your post lacks. Curtis, you may be correct in all that you say. I am getting impressions from people who read the email that Sal sent that it was not a pleasant email to receive for Emily. Emily has said so and Judy has said so, both of whom read the letter. So I am going to back out now that I have put in my two cents regarding the conclusion I drew from all of the to-ing and fro-ing on this subject. I am going to back out because I did not read the email and thus can not comment further on it. However, I can and did want to say what I said regarding the general play of personalities and human nature as I saw it based on discussions of this issue. At this point, if Sal is all she is cracked up to be by those who love and support her, it would be about that time when she could step out from behind that curtain and say her lines. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: So Emily and I are cool now. Have fun with whatever this thing is that seems to interest you. Have fun believing that you and Emily are cool now. I'm pretty sure that if you play the song Imagine backwards, it generates one of your posts. You may be cool with Emily, Curtis, but I doubt she's cool with you. After calling her motives into question so brutally, do you really think she trusts you? Just curious... There's a number of things Curtis can't change. 1. He can't change the ugly email Sal wrote Emily accusing her of being mean to him. 2. He can't change the fact that he then defended Sal on FFL. 3. He can't
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I noticed that Judy did not recognize the humor in my exchange with Richard. Perhaps something similar is going on here. However Curtis, it was clear to me that you were making a joke with the called a meeting comment. The insinuation that you and Sal conspired about the email to Emily is unfair fighting and makes matters worse. Why do that? From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Curtis *could* have avoided all but #1 (at least as far as we know; was the email really all Sal's idea? did she run it by him, and if so did he encourage her to send it?). Judy at her finest. Too funny, after Curtis tried to insinuate that I had called a meeting to get Ann and raunchy to criticize Curtis. His hypocrisy comes so naturally to him that he doesn't even try to hide it. So desperate for manufactured material that you are even willing to make yourself look this thick? So you got that I was suggesting that you guys literally called a meeting? And you thought that other readers might be confused if you pretended it was as literal as your insinuation? That's why I call you the troll queen.
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Steve, I was asking why fight unfairly which only makes matter worse. I don't at all equate that with what you're talking about, getting into the conflict tho not having intended to. Share From: seventhray1 lurkernomore20002...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! Share, With all due respect. I think some of us can be guilty of this notion of bringing a knife to gun fight. Or rather, we didn't originally come to fight at all, but realize we are up against someone who has come to fight, and fight to win and will deploy whatever arsenal is necessary to effect this outcome. And yes, I think Judy misses much of the humor and subtlety that takes place here. She remains primarily focused on promoting the rightness of her POV. The bigger casualty is that the overall dialogue. It is hard to discuss something without quickly coming up against what she feels are vital distinctions. And then before you know it, you are stuck in a never ending, meaningless discussion about some obscure point that has no bearing on the overall picture. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: I noticed that Judy did not recognize the humor in my exchange with Richard. Perhaps something similar is going on here. However Curtis, it was clear to me that you were making a joke with the called a meeting comment. The insinuation that you and Sal conspired about the email to Emily is unfair fighting and makes matters worse. Why do that? From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 12:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Curtis *could* have avoided all but #1 (at least as far as we know; was the email really all Sal's idea? did she run it by him, and if so did he encourage her to send it?). Judy at her finest. Too funny, after Curtis tried to insinuate that I had called a meeting to get Ann and raunchy to criticize Curtis. His hypocrisy comes so naturally to him that he doesn't even try to hide it. So desperate for manufactured material that you are even willing to make yourself look this thick? So you got that I was suggesting that you guys literally called a meeting? And you thought that other readers might be confused if you pretended it was as literal as your insinuation? That's why I call you the troll queen.
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On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:03 PM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: R: You may be cool with Emily, Curtis, but I doubt she's cool with you. M: Does the thought of that excite you? Are you acting as a peacekeeper here Raunchy? Trying to help Emily and I smooth out a misunderstanding maybe? DNFTT Right, it's much more effective to keep smacking Curtis in the mouth when he gets like this, because his appetite for deception and cruelty is insatiable once he lets down the Mr. Wonderful facade. Are you kidding? What is up, Judy? Wish I were kidding. Read the traffic, Susan.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:57 PM, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Judy: Right, it's much more effective to keep smacking Curtis in the mouth when he gets like this, because his appetite for deception and cruelty is insatiable once he lets down the Mr. Wonderful facade. Curtis: That is disturbing in many ways. There is something profoundly unwell in this language, with its violent imagery and disjointed, fantastic claims about me. The language in this post negates any need for me to write a disclaimer about the author. Read her own words and you will understand what I am dealing with here. Makes perfect sense to me Curtis baby - totally in line with what I and many others think there. Take your clueless, shameless, needy, drama queenery troll elsewhere.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:30 PM, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: snip You're just mouthing lazy platitudes because you don't follow what goes on here that closely, but you're eager to defend Curtis, and they're handy The usual punch line, (above) or one variation of it. http://instantrimshot.com/classic/?sound=rimshot __ Steve baby - STFU you DF. Love - Ravi.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:05 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Right, it's much more effective to keep smacking Curtis in the mouth when he gets like this, because his appetite for deception and cruelty is insatiable once he lets down the Mr. Wonderful facade. That is disturbing in many ways. There is something profoundly unwell in this language, with its violent imagery and disjointed, fantastic claims about me. It is also disturbing to see how much of the hatred she bears for you is based on simple JEALOUSY. No matter how hard she tries -- and lawdy, lawdy how she tries -- she can't get everyone to hate you. People still like you, and in fact, think of you as a nice person. NO ONE thinks of her that way. And she knows this, and knows that the only way she can get people to even be on her side is through the same deception and cruelty she accuses you of. Because those are the only tactics that work *for her* to get attention, she believes you must be using them, too. It never even *occurs* to her that people think you're a nice guy because you're a nice guy. That's how far gone into this hatred/jealousy thing she is. The language in this post negates any need for me to write a disclaimer about the author. Read her own words and you will understand what I am dealing with here. Even more interesting, since people are talking about what went wrong with Fairfield Life to make it all so nasty and contentious, she's been on such a hate-fest trying to smear Curtis that she only has eight or so more posts left for the week. She'll probably piss those away today with insane replies to Curtis' calm, measured, unaffected-by-the-crazy- person-stalking-him posts, and then she'll have to go silent for the rest of the week. Those who wonder what happened to FFL to make it so nasty, *pay attention* during the period when Judy can't post. See if it isn't quite a bit nicer then. Just sayin'... So Judy made Sal threaten Emily and made Curtis act like a clueless, shameless fool here? Take your emotionally stunted, depraved, deranged, paranoid, delusional fantasies out of here Barry baby. You and Curtis are the ones that stink up this joint with your needy, whiny, drama-queeenery, your deception, manipulation, lying - man what a bunch of clueless, shameless fools - all you have is the village idiot Steve and equally idiotic Susan's support - wow what a clique..LOL..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Then to what were you referring when you said: You'll only damage your own credibility, such as it is. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, as far as I'm concerned, this matter between Robin and myself would have been best dealt with between him and me. For me it was an issue mainly of emotions rather than credibility. Good grief. I wasn't talking about the matter between Robin and you either. How on earth could you have construed that from what I wrote?? My God, Share, get your head on straight. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 2:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy if anyone has a problem with my credibility, they are welcome to question me about it offline. The type of credibility issue I'm talking about, Share, is unfortunately not one that can be resolved via offline questioning.  I'm unwilling to engage this topic online because when the inevitable piling on occurs, it becomes too complicated for me to track. I mentioned this in the early days of my participation here, even before I became involved in any conflicts. I realize Richard himself did not use the word never. I was joshing with him during all those exchanges about Turq.   I was not defending Turq because I take him at his word when he says he doesn't read my posts.    From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Now, now Richard, I'm sure Turq didn't say he NEVER reads those posters. Shame on you for misrepresenting him so Share, Richard didn't say Barry NEVER reads those posters, first of all, so he didn't misrepresent a thing. Second, Barry has said *many, many times* that he does not read certain people's posts. But everyone knows that isn't true, because he so frequently comments on them. He did exactly that earlier this evening: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/320044 (As it happens, almost nothing he says in this post is true, but that's a different issue.) And a word to the wise: You aren't going to get Barry off your back by defending him. You aren't going to make him feel guilty about slamming you by defending him. You aren't going to get him on your side by defending him. You aren't going to soften his heart by defending him. You won't make him like you any better by defending him. You'll only damage your own credibility, such as it is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Richard: apologies to you if I wasn't clear about joshing with you about Turq. Judy: See above in case you missed when I wrote to you that I was joshing with Richard about Turq. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Then to what were you referring when you said: You'll only damage your own credibility, such as it is. Share. Who was my initial post about? What was I telling you *not to do* if you didn't want to damage your credibility? Come on, you can figure this out. The whole post is quoted at the bottom here. Take another look. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy, as far as I'm concerned, this matter between Robin and myself would have been best dealt with between him and me. For me it was an issue mainly of emotions rather than credibility. Good grief. I wasn't talking about the matter between Robin and you either. How on earth could you have construed that from what I wrote?? My God, Share, get your head on straight. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 2:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy if anyone has a problem with my credibility, they are welcome to question me about it offline. The type of credibility issue I'm talking about, Share, is unfortunately not one that can be resolved via offline questioning.  I'm unwilling to engage this topic online because when the inevitable piling on occurs, it becomes too complicated for me to track. I mentioned this in the early days of my participation here, even before I became involved in any conflicts. I realize Richard himself did not use the word never. I was joshing with him during all those exchanges about Turq.   I was not defending Turq because I take him at his word when he says he doesn't read my posts.    From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Now, now Richard, I'm sure Turq didn't say he NEVER reads those posters. Shame on you for misrepresenting him so Share, Richard didn't say Barry NEVER reads those posters, first of all, so he didn't misrepresent a thing. Second, Barry has said *many, many times* that he does not read certain people's posts. But everyone knows that isn't true, because he so frequently comments on them. He did exactly that earlier this evening: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/320044 (As it happens, almost nothing he says in this post is true, but that's a different issue.) And a word to the wise: You aren't going to get Barry off your back by defending him. You aren't going to make him feel guilty about slamming you by defending him. You aren't going to get him on your side by defending him. You aren't going to soften his heart by defending him. You won't make him like you any better by defending him. You'll only damage your own credibility, such as it is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:05 PM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: So Emily and I are cool now. Have fun with whatever this thing is that seems to interest you. Have fun believing that you and Emily are cool now. I'm pretty sure that if you play the song Imagine backwards, it generates one of your posts. You may be cool with Emily, Curtis, but I doubt she's cool with you. After calling her motives into question so brutally, do you really think she trusts you? Just curious...when Emily played off Robin's irony email did you think she was teasing you or did it piss you off? Was your poor treatment of her pay back for a bruised ego or did it have nothing to do with this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/319723 _ Well I doubt how many mature, smart, intelligent women would be cool with this old boy, mid-western clique? Curtis Barry are clear - either be a Stupid Sal or don't you start now..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Judy if anyone has a problem with my credibility, they are welcome to question me about it offline. I'm unwilling to engage this topic online because when the inevitable piling on occurs, it becomes too complicated for me to track. I mentioned this in the early days of my participation here, even before I became involved in any conflicts. I realize Richard himself did not use the word never. I was joshing with him during all those exchanges about Turq. I was not defending Turq because I take him at his word when he says he doesn't read my posts. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Now, now Richard, I'm sure Turq didn't say he NEVER reads those posters. Shame on you for misrepresenting him so Share, Richard didn't say Barry NEVER reads those posters, first of all, so he didn't misrepresent a thing. Second, Barry has said *many, many times* that he does not read certain people's posts. But everyone knows that isn't true, because he so frequently comments on them. He did exactly that earlier this evening: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/320044 (As it happens, almost nothing he says in this post is true, but that's a different issue.) And a word to the wise: You aren't going to get Barry off your back by defending him. You aren't going to make him feel guilty about slamming you by defending him. You aren't going to get him on your side by defending him. You aren't going to soften his heart by defending him. You won't make him like you any better by defending him. You'll only damage your own credibility, such as it is.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Dear Curtis: Well, I have been out of commission the last couple of days and I apologize. There was a major breach of my security system and I took a few major hits to my personhood. My bliss bubble was infiltrated; my emotions cried out in outrage. The Others tucked me in to a comfortable bed in ICU and put me on life support. They applied a special salve flown in on a helicopter birdie, rehydrated me, and I have now been transferred to the Recovery Unit, where I am lying here sipping on a 7-up and eating a fruit bowl, contemplating the enormity of my intelligence. Not just a run-of-the-mill intelligence, mind you, but a vast and devious intelligence worthy of a great __ like myself (what's the word for it? I'm sure it will come to me if I think long enough.) So, not to waste time with all this personal drama, take my hand and let us travel to the land of the FFL Games. you have so outed me. Here I am trying to get packed, trying to clean houseI am completely distracted. So, hell wit' it, I simply must fulfill my responsibility as I've been working on that one...is it dimbo? Is it troll? (I still don't think I have a large enough understanding of what that means, but I *am* kinda slow in certain ways). Is it pot-stirrer, with no regard to anyone's mental health here? Is it passive-agressive extraordinaire? Is it something more sinister? Now, while I almost never go point to point with anyone, because I'm format challenged (don't believe that, it's a special-ops tactic that I use - check with Sal, she knows me better than anyone), in your honor, I will try. I have inserted my comments below: From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! Emily being quoted from her post: I sent your email to Curtis and Judy, because it freaked me out and those were the only two people at the time that I could remember that knew you in some fashion from FFL and whose emails were listed here. I was looking for perspective on that email because it was *so* angry. I apologize to Judy and Curtis for forwarding bad energy. It won't happen again. So let's see how Judy can spin this into troll bait. Listen up all you apprentice trolls. mama troll is gunna reveal the formula. Emily: God bless it, Curtis...did she reveal it? The secret formula - please give me your opinion on what it is. Clearly you know it. I am but a student, a simple woman trying to live up to the intelligent forward-ass plotter that you seem to think I am - I'm all strategy Curtis. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Amazing, how Curtis managed to turn things around so that that Emily, the aggrieved party who Sal dumped on in a private email, is now Emily the instigator of a nefarious plot to sic Judy on poor Curtis. Pretty slick, I'd say. Hey thanks for standing up to Judy for calling me dishonest... oh wait, sorry I just read that again. Actually I thought it was to sick Judy on Sal who Emily knows hates Sal. Emily was not aware of my criticisms of Sal. You mean the chick you usually refer to as Stupid Sal and who is obviously on the other team. Yeah, she know. Emily: The other team? What other team? Curtis, in my illusion of the love-fest that I translate FFL as, I simply deny that these teams exist. Hence my constant irritation at Barry for listing me. I can't even keep track of which list I'm on...is it the right one or the wrong one this week. Am I a Pip or a Pipette? It's all so confusing. I pride myself on being a pretty straight shooter. I throw myself out here and try to stay honest and maintain integrity. You (and Sal) are bursting my bubble, and it is a painful experience, I admit. Emily explained why she sent it to Curtis and me (see below). Curtis is calling Emily a liar. See the move? Because Emily doesn't specifically mention all possible reasons for sending it to Judy, anyone who speculates about her reasons is calling her a liar! So first she got me to write by calling me a liar, and now she is hoping to get everyone going including Emily, who has escaped this nut house with this troll move by claiming I was calling her a liar. Emily: Did I call you a liar? I'm s passive aggressive, aren't I? Oh, wait, that sounds directly aggressive. When oh when did I call you a liar? You have every right to speculate on the reasons I sent that gem from Sal to you. Why believe what I told you was the reason - the same reason I posted here as a matter of fact. I am honored by how devious you think I am. My
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Dear Curtis: See what happens when you don't wait for the final draft? I was just trying to up the entertainment value. No matter. Thank you for your considerate and kind remarks. Is it too early for a drink? Never mind, I'm supposed to be meditating. Maybe I'll burn some incense and pray on a stack of Bhagavad Gita's. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Glad to see you recovered from your email trauma Emily. Comments below. Dear Curtis: Well, I have been out of commission the last couple of days and I apologize.  There was a major breach of my security system and I took a few major hits to my personhood. My bliss bubble was infiltrated; my emotions cried out in outrage.  The Others tucked me in to a comfortable bed in ICU and put me on life support.  They applied a special salve flown in on a helicopter birdie, rehydrated me, and I have now been transferred to the Recovery Unit, where I am lying here sipping on a 7-up and eating a fruit bowl, contemplating the enormity of my intelligence.  Not just a run-of-the-mill intelligence, mind you, but a vast and devious intelligence worthy of a great __ like myself (what's the word for it? I'm sure it will come to me if I think long enough.)  So, not to waste time with all this personal drama, take my hand and let us travel to the land of the FFL Games.   you have so outed me.  Here I am trying to get packed, trying to clean houseI am completely distracted.  So, hell wit' it, I simply must fulfill my responsibility as  I've been working on that one...is it dimbo?  Is it troll? (I still don't think I have a large enough understanding of what that means, but I *am* kinda slow in certain ways).  Is it pot-stirrer, with no regard to anyone's mental health here? Is it passive-agressive extraordinaire?  Is it something more sinister?  M: Little Columbo rope-a-dope to open, well played! Ah shucks, Mam, ah don't know nuth'n bout no birth'n babies. Now, while I almost never go point to point with anyone, because I'm format challenged (don't believe that, it's a special-ops tactic that I use - check with Sal, she knows me better than anyone), in your honor, I will try.  I have inserted my comments below:  M: Thanks for making the effort. I think it all boils down to using the arrows on the keyboard doesn't it? From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann  I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! Emily being quoted from her post: I sent your email to Curtis and Judy, because it freaked me out and those were the only two people at the time that I could remember that knew you in some fashion from FFL and whose emails were listed here.  I was looking for perspective on that email because it was *so* angry.  I apologize to Judy and Curtis for forwarding bad energy.  It won't happen again. So let's see how Judy can spin this into troll bait.  Listen up all you apprentice trolls. mama troll is gunna reveal the formula. Emily:  God bless it, Curtis...did she reveal it?  The secret formula - please give me your opinion on what it is.  Clearly you know it.  I am but a student, a simple woman trying to live up to the intelligent forward-ass plotter that you seem to think I am - I'm all strategy Curtis.  M: Me thinks thou... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Amazing, how Curtis managed to turn things around so that that Emily, the aggrieved party who Sal dumped on in a private email, is now Emily the instigator of a nefarious plot to sic Judy on poor Curtis. Pretty slick, I'd say. Hey thanks for standing up to Judy for calling me dishonest... oh wait, sorry I just read that again. Actually I thought it was to sick Judy on Sal who Emily knows hates Sal. Emily was not aware of my criticisms of Sal. You mean the chick you usually refer to as Stupid Sal and who is obviously on the other team.  Yeah, she know. Emily:  The other team?  What other team?  Curtis, in my illusion of the love-fest that I translate FFL as, I simply deny that these teams exist.  Hence my constant irritation at Barry for listing me.  I can't even keep track of which list I'm on...is it the right one or the wrong one this week
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Judy, as far as I'm concerned, this matter between Robin and myself would have been best dealt with between him and me. For me it was an issue mainly of emotions rather than credibility. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 2:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy if anyone has a problem with my credibility, they are welcome to question me about it offline. The type of credibility issue I'm talking about, Share, is unfortunately not one that can be resolved via offline questioning.  I'm unwilling to engage this topic online because when the inevitable piling on occurs, it becomes too complicated for me to track. I mentioned this in the early days of my participation here, even before I became involved in any conflicts. I realize Richard himself did not use the word never. I was joshing with him during all those exchanges about Turq.   I was not defending Turq because I take him at his word when he says he doesn't read my posts.    From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:58 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Now, now Richard, I'm sure Turq didn't say he NEVER reads those posters. Shame on you for misrepresenting him so Share, Richard didn't say Barry NEVER reads those posters, first of all, so he didn't misrepresent a thing. Second, Barry has said *many, many times* that he does not read certain people's posts. But everyone knows that isn't true, because he so frequently comments on them. He did exactly that earlier this evening: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/320044 (As it happens, almost nothing he says in this post is true, but that's a different issue.) And a word to the wise: You aren't going to get Barry off your back by defending him. You aren't going to make him feel guilty about slamming you by defending him. You aren't going to get him on your side by defending him. You aren't going to soften his heart by defending him. You won't make him like you any better by defending him. You'll only damage your own credibility, such as it is.
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Good catch, Curtis! Hey, how's this for piling up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgU1dZm-hcM From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Then Judy suggested that I sent the email to more people who were not mentioned and had nothing to do with it. Sent should read send She suggested that I send it to Barry. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: DD: Sal Sunshine: sounds like a crazy, invasive personality to me. I believe she has some sincere concerns about some of the posters here. She was on the FFL for years and I knew her personally, and never felt she was either of those things. She was sticking up for me and I appreciate that. She was expressing an opinion like we do here all the time. You read her email, Curtis. That is not an honest description of it. That was a concise lesson in Judy ethics and hypocrisy wasn't it? Right on the heels of accusing me of being unethical for stating that Robin's parody he wrote with my name on the bottom misrepresented my views. In this case everyone could read his post and my views to make their own determination... she accuses me of lying about an email that was sent to her even though she was not mentioned in the email and the subject had nothing to do with her. So she accused me of being dishonest and knows that I can't post the email to counter the charge. My bet is that she hoped that this would force me to. It will not. And one wonders what aspect of what I said she could possibly attack even as even expressing a different POV,let alone being dishonest? That it was Sal's opinion? That it expressed concern about some people online? That she was sticking up for me in the email? You are slithery creature Judy. And this outcome is exactly why Emily put this email into your talons. Then Judy suggested that I sent the email to more people who were not mentioned and had nothing to do with it. Yea, this post is pretty much all anyone would need to know about her. Anyone can take their email off the yahoo group list so that no one can send you a private email. If you have it on there you might get one someday, I know I do. Is it a bigger deal than bringing out an opinion in front of everyone? That judgement may be different for each of us. I would actually prefer to get that kind of email privately and miss all the piling on that can go on here. YMMV. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I concur that online and offline are different beasts. I do take greater license online in stretching the boundaries than I would offline. I received a very unpleasant private email yesterday from Sal Sunshine telling me to BUTT OUT of the dialogue between Robin and Curtis. Emily is not exaggerating. It was an *astoundingly* unpleasant email, one that nobody here, including Sal's most dedicated supporters, could fail to recognize as such.
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Now, now Richard, I'm sure Turq didn't say he NEVER reads those posters. Shame on you for misrepresenting him so From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! DD: Sal Sunshine: sounds like a crazy, invasive personality to me. I believe she has some sincere concerns about some of the posters here. turquoiseb: You mean that she could become *concerned* about people here? Like the guy who is now on his fifth posting ID on Fairfield Life, at least one of which was spent pretending to be a woman? Or the woman who is still hounding her and taking every possible opportunity to ruin her reputation, months after she stopped posting at FFL? What could there possibly be to be concerned about? :-) Well, you could be concerned about falling down a rabbit hole private email exchange with two of the posters whose posts you don't even read! :-)
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Richard! Perhaps you could stop LOLing and fait attention, s'il vous plait! Turq did not use the word never in his pronouncement. Thus one must assume that you are projecting this from deep within yourself. Plus obviously you are unfamiliar with the portentiously deep and vaguely abstract concept of wiggle room. This latter you must master, Richard or you will never ha ha, get it...you will never be a poster outer on FFL. I only say this with your best interests in mind. Share From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! Well, you could be concerned about falling down a rabbit hole private email exchange with two of the posters whose posts you don't even read! :-) Share Long: Now, now Richard, I'm sure Turq didn't say he NEVER reads those posters... Turq said he doesn't read Judy or Robin. But, Turq probably reads every single post on FFL, since that's what many U.S. expats do in sidewalk cafes in Europe. LoL! DD: Sal Sunshine: sounds like a crazy, invasive personality to me. I believe she has some sincere concerns about some of the posters here. turquoiseb: You mean that she could become *concerned* about people here? Like the guy who is now on his fifth posting ID on Fairfield Life, at least one of which was spent pretending to be a woman? Or the woman who is still hounding her and taking every possible opportunity to ruin her reputation, months after she stopped posting at FFL? What could there possibly be to be concerned about? :-)
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Dear Richard, if you say one more word about unpaid wagers without supplying juicy details, thus necessitating expedition to FFL archival jungle, all your wondrous chivalry will be as if slaying a dragon with whom you are shipwrecked, alone, just the 2 of you, on a deserted island in the middle of the Pacific. Perhaps with 1 coconut tree. With one coconut left to whom you can chat like that guy in that movie and his soccer ball Friday. Share From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! snip Although I rarely read Share's posts, much less reply to them, I'm going to do what I know that Judy (our official Upholder Of Truth And Honesty) will not and point out a few discrepancies in the account above. authfriend: Poor Barry's lost in confusion again because he doesn't read my posts. snip I didn't read all of the responses in the thread, but glancing through them briefly I saw *none* that slammed Share. Not a one. I challenge her to produce the one or ones that did. Yeah, why don't you just leave her the fuck alone? There's no earthly reason why she needs to respond to your dimwit challenges. Go wave your pathetic dick at somebody else. Yeah, just leave Share alone - who do you think you are, her Uncle Tantra? And while I'm at it, leave all the other gals on FFL alone too - they're way out of your league, Turqy! LoL! I'm posting this as a reminder of the thing that happens so often here, and that I think that happened in this case, and has warped Share's memory of events. A number of people responded to her posting of Hagelin's silly ideas by making fun of his *ideas* or of *him*. Why do I get the feeling that Share interpreted this as slamming her? Barry, NOBODY CARES. Trust me on this. Take a few placebos, you'll feel much better. Then, come back to pay your lost wagers!
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What happened do you think? Chuckling now...maybe should do jyotish chart of FFL. Bet dasha changed 5 or 6 years ago From: Susan waybac...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 3:15 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! The thing is, FaifieldLIfe, until maybe 5 or 6 years ago, was not generally a place where people bickered, called others liars, insisted on being right, criticized others for not using an exact word or knowing the details of lengthy and long ago posts. It used to be a place where ideas were talked about and debated, but the harsh edge was not so frequent. People seemed able to agree to disagree. There were some hard feelings, but not a constant barrage of fighting. The feeling of the place has changed, especially for those who don't get off on daily arguing and combat. For me, there is a difference between arguing ideas and issues, and attacking other people. I know some people thrive on that, but it sure changes this place. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: DD: Sal Sunshine: sounds like a crazy, invasive personality to me. I believe she has some sincere concerns about some of the posters here. She was on the FFL for years and I knew her personally, and never felt she was either of those things. She was sticking up for me and I appreciate that. She was expressing an opinion like we do here all the time. You read her email, Curtis. That is not an honest description of it. That was a concise lesson in Judy ethics and hypocrisy wasn't it? Right on the heels of accusing me of being unethical for stating that Robin's parody he wrote with my name on the bottom misrepresented my views. In this case everyone could read his post and my views to make their own determination... she accuses me of lying about an email that was sent to her even though she was not mentioned in the email and the subject had nothing to do with her. So she accused me of being dishonest and knows that I can't post the email to counter the charge. My bet is that she hoped that this would force me to. It will not. And one wonders what aspect of what I said she could possibly attack even as even expressing a different POV,let alone being dishonest? That it was Sal's opinion? That it expressed concern about some people online? That she was sticking up for me in the email? You are slithery creature Judy. And this outcome is exactly why Emily put this email into your talons. Then Judy suggested that I sent the email to more people who were not mentioned and had nothing to do with it. I know how you feel Curtis, kind of like Vaj telling Barry who then told the world that I was giving out his private contact information to all sorts of people. Categorically incorrect, wrong-headed, dishonest and untrue on all levels. Never happened. I guess we all get some sort of accusation thrown at us sooner or later around here that is hard to prove otherwise. Yea, this post is pretty much all anyone would need to know about her. Anyone can take their email off the yahoo group list so that no one can send you a private email. If you have it on there you might get one someday, I know I do. Is it a bigger deal than bringing out an opinion in front of everyone? That judgement may be different for each of us. I would actually prefer to get that kind of email privately and miss all the piling on that can go on here. YMMV. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I concur that online and offline are different beasts. I do take greater license online in stretching the boundaries than I would offline. I received a very unpleasant private email yesterday from Sal Sunshine telling me to BUTT OUT of the dialogue between Robin and Curtis. Emily is not exaggerating. It was an *astoundingly* unpleasant email, one that nobody here, including Sal's most dedicated supporters, could fail to recognize as such.
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Ann, big hug as I laugh my head off all the way to the Golden Dome of pure whatever From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 3:43 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Dear Richard, if you say one more word about unpaid wagers without supplying juicy details, thus necessitating expedition to FFL archival jungle, all your wondrous chivalry will be as if slaying a dragon with whom you are shipwrecked, alone, just the 2 of you, on a deserted island in the middle of the Pacific. Perhaps with 1 coconut tree. With one coconut left to whom you can chat like that guy in that movie and his soccer ball Friday. That guy being Tom Hanks. In a way, it sounds like FFL, sooner or later it will be one crazy guy left chatting away to whatever coconut is left to listen. Share From: Richard J. Williams richard@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  snip Although I rarely read Share's posts, much less reply to them, I'm going to do what I know that Judy (our official Upholder Of Truth And Honesty) will not and point out a few discrepancies in the account above. authfriend: Poor Barry's lost in confusion again because he doesn't read my posts. snip I didn't read all of the responses in the thread, but glancing through them briefly I saw *none* that slammed Share. Not a one. I challenge her to produce the one or ones that did. Yeah, why don't you just leave her the fuck alone? There's no earthly reason why she needs to respond to your dimwit challenges. Go wave your pathetic dick at somebody else. Yeah, just leave Share alone - who do you think you are, her Uncle Tantra? And while I'm at it, leave all the other gals on FFL alone too - they're way out of your league, Turqy! LoL! I'm posting this as a reminder of the thing that happens so often here, and that I think that happened in this case, and has warped Share's memory of events. A number of people responded to her posting of Hagelin's silly ideas by making fun of his *ideas* or of *him*. Why do I get the feeling that Share interpreted this as slamming her? Barry, NOBODY CARES. Trust me on this. Take a few placebos, you'll feel much better. Then, come back to pay your lost wagers!
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I concur that online and offline are different beasts. I do take greater license online in stretching the boundaries than I would offline. I received a very unpleasant private email yesterday from Sal Sunshine telling me to BUTT OUT of the dialogue between Robin and Curtis. Now, that dialogue has gone offline so it's not up for comment anyhow. I have a lot of respect for them both, honestly. Sal, if it's on FFL it is fair game. Those are the rules. If you can't handle the heat get out of the fire. That's what I do from time to time. Do *not* email me privately again. If you do, I will post it directly to FFL. If you would like to say something to me, post it here at FFL. I sent your email to Curtis and Judy, because it freaked me out and those were the only two people at the time that I could remember that knew you in some fashion from FFL and whose emails were listed here. I was looking for perspective on that email because it was *so* angry. I apologize to Judy and Curtis for forwarding bad energy. It won't happen again. Now, Sal, I am headed off on vacation and won't be posting for a few weeks, so I will most definitely be BUTTING OUT. Ya'll take good care of yourselves and I mean that sincerely. Emily. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: About real world vs FFL: my Vancouver ex and I met in a forum. We lived together for a year. Now we're sweet friends, emailing most days. So realness increased somehow and continues to. Plus in person I know Rick and Alex and Robert and now Raunchy and even Buck though I doubt he remembers when we sat next to each other at a lecture. It sounds like feste lives a few blocks from me. And do they come across and seem exactly like they are at FFL? Do you know them well enough offline to be able to judge this or have you had more interactions with them online? I knew you and Curtis long ago. I knew Ravi on a previous forum. I still interact with Jim on another forum. At a funeral I read something beautiful that Edg wrote about a deceased and beloved member of that other forum. It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.) I'm just saying that realness, in this online social context, for me, exists on a continuum. And it can be wonderful when realness increases. Most definitely there is some realness. But, like I said, the scenery is cardboard and the stars are little studio lights. Share From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Yes, sometimes foolish, sometimes wise we are. Because this is a learning place. We are all going to make mistakes. Good to develop wise compassion. Even about ourselves. And to apologize if appropriate. Make amends. Intend to do better next time. Act wisely to mature the undeveloped aspects of ourselves. TM, Sedona Method, mindfulness, lovingkindness, humor, ect. Whatever helps us become a better person, more loving, more truthful. This is the best anyone can do. And it is good enough to do. I am open to other thoughts and suggestions. I think, with all due respect Share, that if you want to develop and practice these noble aspirations that you list above then do this in the 'real world'. FFL is simply not that. Many of us are not quite as we seem here at FFL as we are offline. I know this for a fact. It is like trying to practice real
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Thanks, Ann but too late about being slammed. I was slammed for my very second post, my first being a reply to Marek's surf report. Me asking about body surfing on west coast. I guessed it was a safe topic for my FFL debut. As for my second post, it was very brief, mentioned Hagelin. So gave me a chance to, in true nurse fashion, take the temperature of the group. Anyway, I think we're all a mix. Of what? I could say of positive and negative. But to be really accurate I have to say we're all a mix of what I find positive and what I find negative. Even the people who I know in person. And sometimes they surprise me too. So over the months I've been discovering not only what I find positive and negative but also what I'm willing to engage with and what I'm unwilling to engage with. This latter has taken more time for sure. Just like it does in person. Did you know that these days 50% of people meet their partners online? So online is not necessarily a dead end in terms of deepening realness and closeness. And, as the 50 divorce rate suggests, in person is not necessarily a guarantee of deepening realness and closeness. In this sense in person and online aren't so different. But I like your last metaphor anyway. Share PS Given that I've found everyone a mix, I haven't really put anyone into a category. Pretty early on I discovered that even the anticipated pro TM anti TM polarity did not hold up in all discussions. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: About real world vs FFL: my Vancouver ex and I met in a forum. We lived together for a year. Now we're sweet friends, emailing most days. So realness increased somehow and continues to. Plus in person I know Rick and Alex and Robert and now Raunchy and even Buck though I doubt he remembers when we sat next to each other at a lecture. It sounds like feste lives a few blocks from me. And do they come across and seem exactly like they are at FFL? Do you know them well enough offline to be able to judge this or have you had more interactions with them online? I knew you and Curtis long ago. I knew Ravi on a previous forum. I still interact with Jim on another forum. At a funeral I read something beautiful that Edg wrote about a deceased and beloved member of that other forum. It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.) I'm just saying that realness, in this online social context, for me, exists on a continuum. And it can be wonderful when realness increases. Most definitely there is some realness. But, like I said, the scenery is cardboard and the stars are little studio lights. Share From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Yes, sometimes foolish, sometimes wise we are. Because this is a learning place. We are all going to make mistakes. Good to develop wise compassion. Even about ourselves. And to apologize if appropriate. Make amends. Intend to do better next time. Act wisely to mature the undeveloped aspects of ourselves. TM, Sedona Method, mindfulness, lovingkindness, humor, ect. Whatever helps us become a better person, more loving, more truthful. This is the best anyone can do. And it is good enough to do. I am open to other thoughts and suggestions. I think, with all due respect Share, that if you want to develop and practice these noble aspirations
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
You're right, it was my fifth post. My first four posts were about surfing. I can see that I remembered it as my second post because it was the second topic I responded to. I used the word slam in my reply to Ann because that was the word she used. I took it to mean disagree with. And yes, I took the replies to mean that people didn't agree with me. Which I had been forewarned about and didn't mind. If I minded, I wouldn't have posted about Hagelin in the first place. I did not remember the woo woo graphic. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Ann but too late about being slammed. I was slammed for my very second post, my first being a reply to Marek's surf report. Me asking about body surfing on west coast. I guessed it was a safe topic for my FFL debut. As for my second post, it was very brief, mentioned Hagelin. So gave me a chance to, in true nurse fashion, take the temperature of the group. Although I rarely read Share's posts, much less reply to them, I'm going to do what I know that Judy (our official Upholder Of Truth And Honesty) will not and point out a few discrepancies in the account above. First, the post mentioning Hagelin was Share's fifth on FFL, not her second. Second, I just glanced through the replies to this post, and the closest I can even *imagine* to being a slam was one of mine, replying to Hagelin's silly theories -- not to Share -- with a simple graphic: I didn't read all of the responses in the thread, but glancing through them briefly I saw *none* that slammed Share. Not a one. I challenge her to produce the one or ones that did. I'm posting this as a reminder of the thing that happens so often here, and that I think that happened in this case, and has warped Share's memory of events. A number of people responded to her posting of Hagelin's silly ideas by making fun of his *ideas* or of *him*. Why do I get the feeling that Share interpreted this as slamming her?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
About real world vs FFL: my Vancouver ex and I met in a forum. We lived together for a year. Now we're sweet friends, emailing most days. So realness increased somehow and continues to. Plus in person I know Rick and Alex and Robert and now Raunchy and even Buck though I doubt he remembers when we sat next to each other at a lecture. It sounds like feste lives a few blocks from me. I knew you and Curtis long ago. I knew Ravi on a previous forum. I still interact with Jim on another forum. At a funeral I read something beautiful that Edg wrote about a deceased and beloved member of that other forum. I'm just saying that realness, in this online social context, for me, exists on a continuum. And it can be wonderful when realness increases. Share From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Yes, sometimes foolish, sometimes wise we are. Because this is a learning place. We are all going to make mistakes. Good to develop wise compassion. Even about ourselves. And to apologize if appropriate. Make amends. Intend to do better next time. Act wisely to mature the undeveloped aspects of ourselves. TM, Sedona Method, mindfulness, lovingkindness, humor, ect. Whatever helps us become a better person, more loving, more truthful. This is the best anyone can do. And it is good enough to do. I am open to other thoughts and suggestions. I think, with all due respect Share, that if you want to develop and practice these noble aspirations that you list above then do this in the 'real world'. FFL is simply not that. Many of us are not quite as we seem here at FFL as we are offline. I know this for a fact. It is like trying to practice real medicine on some hospital theme soap opera. FFL is a place to stretch some boundaries, to play a little and sometimes to fight but you aren't going to change anyone here and many times sincerity and vulnerability get sacrificed, brutally. Don't take this place or your role in it too seriously. That would be my best advice. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 6:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  Oh Mama Aunty Share play with her kids and they won't let Share be Sedon(a)-izing her kids- demons today, Letting them out for their weekly foray. Sharing can't make them leave, and they won't let Share be if she don't let them come out to play? The fat one on the slide is it Rage? He was good, so he's out of the cage. He doesn't play nice, and sometimes, he bites; Yeah, he's hard to assuage. The cute one, you may like is Lust. For her, the see-saw's a must. But don't let her fool you, she's really quite cruel, too. In fact, it's her you shouldn't` trust. See little one there is named Pout. (Bet you guessed what he's all about.) He loves to swing on wingy swings, and sometimes, breaking things, if Share don't give in to her shouts. Look the last one outside is Sorrow. She plays with toys that are borrowed. A real downer, she is. Doesn't like other kids, But she'll always be out again tomorrow Sedonizing Share's demons today, Letting them out for their weekly foray. We can't make them leave. Does they let her be if she don't let them come out to play? Is the way into you a narrow road? Is it boxed in, blocked out, and reprimanded? Is the way into you tiny, yeah Can't you get there in a single stride? Can't you get there without a guide? Is the way into you Is it a narrow road? With goodbyes and hellos? That flank each winding bend so these people want to be your friend You not seek, and so you'll found; Will traveled rooted to the ground. Words that in jest you uttered here May wisdom in the heavenly sphere. (All men's questions and replies Are sometimes foolish, sometimes wise) If you wish to learn of me Forget all this immediately; Forget there's such a thing to do - And then perchance I'll wink at you. Nameless mother of ten thousand things From the unlocked cage of your heart White doves of love will go winging, Wild larks of song golden rise singing, The ice of your heart is then broken, broken, Joy's fountain leaps in the air; And all the while no word was spoken: You'll only looked at something fair. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Dear Ann, poor Share was at writing group for 2 hours this afternoon, then Sedona Method for an hour, then Dome, then dinner, then library, now here. At one point I had over 80 unread emails.Â
