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In a message dated 1/8/06 4:43:47 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They've seen it in their minds, as it was describedto them by other people who made it seem like a bigdeal. The description has become Truth for them;anything that deviates from this is falsehood. It is a special place in that Guru Dev built it and there is a charm about the place. However, I doubt it cost a lot of money to build. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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In a message dated 1/8/06 7:25:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How many of you have actually seen Jyotir Math? It's not that big a deal. They've seen it in their minds, as it was described to them by other people who made it seem like a big deal. The description has become Truth for them; anything that deviates from this is falsehood."Living in more physical comfort by staying at Jyotirmath than by being a lone sanyasin walking around" doesn't really say THAT much, IMHO. I guess you read gilt-gold, silks and marble fountains into what I said, but I certainly don't see how. Not in just what you had said, but in the general direction I had seen this thread moving. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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In a message dated 1/7/06 11:30:26 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is obvious that Gurudev lived in greater physical comfort as Shankaracharya than he did as a lone Sanyasin wandering around. It is also obvious that *somehow* money flowed into the math at Jyotirmath. Gurudev may have refused donations in exchange for instruction, but I doubt if he refused generic donations for the upkeep of the Math. Unless people are implying that he manifest money out of thin air? This would be counterfeiting, and illegal, so regardless of any ability to do so on Gurudev's part, I doubt if he did this, don't you? How many of you have actually seen Jyotir Math? It's not that big a deal. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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In a message dated 1/7/06 3:57:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is obvious that Gurudev lived in greater physical comfort as Shankaracharya than he did as a lone Sanyasin wandering around. It is also obvious that *somehow* money flowed into the math at Jyotirmath. Gurudev may have refused donations in exchange for instruction, but I doubt if he refused generic donations for the upkeep of the Math. Unless people are implying that he manifest money out of thin air? This would be counterfeiting, and illegal, so regardless of any ability to do so on Gurudev's part, I doubt if he did this, don't you? How many of you have actually seen Jyotir Math? It's not that big adeal.Not Jyotir math, but I have been to two other Shankaracharian Mathsand they were pretty basic and simple. So is the Jyotir Math that Guru Dev built. One large building made with rock and heavy timber and a tin roof. Enough rooms for a few monks to stay there and a large meeting hall. I think there might have been two stories with maybe about 3,000 to 4,000 total square feet. The Architecture reminded me a lit bit of a Tibetan Buddhist monistary. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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In the yogic tradition, there are three kinds of bondage, " trividho bandhah"--two of them are vaikrtika bandha, renunciates becoming attached to objects of comfort and dakshina bandha renunciates who become dependent on money from lay people. These are warning signs that a renunciate is still in bondage.On Jan 6, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Premanand Paul Mason wrote:Guru Dev's lifestyle, organisation and methods of gaining welfare as depicted in his published biographies (listed below), are at variants with the descriptions recently offered by 'off_world_beings'. It is particularly interesting to note the stories of Guru Dev outrightly refusing material donations to his ashram. If fact he gained the title 'Ananta Shree Vibhushit' - Adorned with Limitless Wealth - because of the mysterious way his life appeared supported in all respects. 'Shri Jyotishpeethaddharaka' by Shri Rameshwar Prasad Tiwari, 1965 - The lifestory of Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati in Hindi 'The Whole Thing The Real Thing' by Prem C Pasricha, 1977 - English language 'transcreation' of Tiwari's Hindi biography 'Strange Facts About A Great Saint' by Raj R P Varma, 1980 - Personalised English language version of Tiwari's Hindi biography of Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanand Saraswati, and quotations, translated extracts of 'Amrita-Kana' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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I've noticed that, Off. Your posts practically sparkle with the sweet light of rationality. How any of these foolish TM teachers could think otherwise is beyond me. Sal On Jan 6, 2006, at 8:30 AM, off_world_beings wrote: No I am stating rationality. I don't care about your subjective experience of teaching. You are trying to get me to 'believe' you based on your superior experience. It is the same bullshit that most of the the baby-boomer TM teachers have spouted both inside and outside the movement. I am using rationalitynot religionas you are.
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On Jan 5, 2006, at 6:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:Now imagine being a young, naive guy from India who has either lived with his mother or in an ashram all his life, and who suddenly winds up not only being the object of focus of tens of thousands of TM students but the object of focus for the world press (as a result of ripping off the Beatles' share of mass attention). It would be a miracle if he *had* handled it gracefully. In my opinion, such a miracle did not occur. There's a biography I read a while back on the web--I believe it was called "Call No Man Master", not certain--but it had a description of the early days of the TM movement in Britain and M's interaction with the public and how he taught from the perspective of a female assistant. She describes how M would come back after teaching or lecture in which he had to interact with students--understand he was teaching all the students on his own at this point--and was exhausted. He complained about all the endless questions people would ask. It becomes clear where the impetus to create "meditation guides" came from. It was just too much for him to handle, he was drained and exhausted. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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On Jan 5, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Vaj wrote:On Jan 5, 2006, at 6:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:Now imagine being a young, naive guy from Indiawho has either lived with his mother or in an ashram all his life, and who suddenly winds up not only being the object of focus of tens of thousands of TM students but the object of focusfor the world press (as a result of ripping off the Beatles' share of mass attention). It would be a miracle if he *had* handled it gracefully. In my opinion, such a miracle did not occur.There's a biography I read a while back on the web--I believe it was called "Call No Man Master", not certain--but it had a description of the early days of the TM movement in Britain and M's interaction with the public and how he taught from the perspective of a female assistant. She describes how M would come back after teaching or lecture in which he had to interact with students--understand he was teaching all the students on his own at this point--and was exhausted. He complained about all the endless questions people would ask. It becomes clear where the impetus to create "meditation guides" came from. It was just too much for him to handle, he was drained and exhausted.http://web.archive.org/web/20021022123115/www.isleofavalon.co.uk/GlastonburyArchive/callnomm/cnm-09.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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On Jan 5, 2006, at 9:23 AM, off_world_beings wrote:Ridiculous. This is what it has been like since the beginning of time. Someone has to pay for the spiritual movement. In ancient times an Ashram in India was paid for by donors and patrons, a lot of volunteerism on the part of those who can't pay, a synagogue or monestary in ancient Isreal was paid for by the donors and patrons, a monestary or church in Medieval or Victorian England was paid for by donors and patrons, a monestary in ancient Tibet the same, a church in modern US is paid for by donors and patrons and a lot of volunteerism on the part of those who can't pay. A myth. I have received many, many initiations from both Hindu, Buddhist and Taoist teachers. Some for free, most for a small donation. When I became part of a community of yogins we used a traditional model which was non-hierarchical and totally transparent financially. When we need something, we ask the community for money or we sponsor a teaching or we do fundraising. Either way it is all transparent--all members know how money is used and where.Spiritual movements should mirror the spiritual life and be free and transparent. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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In a message dated 1/5/06 2:34:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The very fact that someone should have to take outa loan to learn to meditate is what's criminal. Andthe organization that places the people of the worldin that position are the criminals. BINGO! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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In a message dated 1/5/06 2:45:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How many of them has Maharishi proclaimed as fully enlightened? They haven't come up with a price for that yet.LOL.But it's not as far-fetched as you think. I know ofone spiritual author who offered a couple of well-known Tibetan Buddhist teachers a bribe of one million bucks each to write a blurb for the bookjacket in which they declared him a tulku (recognizedreincarnation of a famous teacher from the past). Both teachers laughed the author out of the room.It's just a matter of time until the TM movementfigures out that there is money to be made inselling "Enlightenment Authentification Diplomas."They'd sell like hotcakes. I know! I wasn't joking! ROFLMAO! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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On Jan 5, 2006, at 10:46 AM, off_world_beings wrote:Nonsense. Even Jesus accepted money for his Church. Monks and priests have always been paid for their services since the beginning of time. Ancient cultures considered these services paramount and the most practical thing they could do, and were quite happy to be materialistic about it, and pay for it, just like you would for TV, airplanes, buses, internet computer, etc. You just have your priorities skewed. Also, almost all ancient cultures had some concept of Karma, and believed that they were given what they had for a reason (wether they were given poverty or wealth), And Maharishi has said that it is the 'deserving ability' of the people that allows them to gain the necessary means, which is what almost all ancient cultures believed, including Guru Dev's cultural worldview. Is there any record of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati *charging* for a mantra? Or was it just on a donation basis? Or was it free? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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On Jan 5, 2006, at 11:06 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my opinion too. His thinking was more in accordance with Guru Dev. Not quite - as I read the quotes from Guru Dev, but more etichal than what he shows these days. I think the influence of Guru Dev faded more and more as he became The Big Guru. Ingegerd Gurudev never had to deal with millions of students. Oh? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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In a message dated 1/5/06 11:12:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People continue to meditate because they have good experience, regardless of what they have paid or not paid.If they have not good experience, they stop even if they have paid $ 2.500. And if they stop after paying such a large sum, which could have been used to pay off the car or get ahead on the mortgage etc, they could easily feel fooled and become bitter about it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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In a message dated 1/5/06 7:11:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And if they stop after paying such a large sum, which could have been used to pay off the car or get ahead on the mortgage etc, they could easily feel fooled and become bitter about it.Wow, you really are out of touch. Do you know how much a car costs these days ? , and how much a mortgage isRemember 15-20 years ago you could buy a new car for $9,000, and a good house for 90,000 (now you probably need 200,000 to 400,000 - depending where you are)OffWorld No , I'm not out of touch at all. If a person only owes 2,500 on his current car he could pay that off and be free of that debt, or he could get 2500.00 dollars ahead on his payments. As for a mortgage, one could easily get ahead on the that or be prepared to have a couple of payments should he lose his job. There are a lot of very important things a person could do with 2500.00 dollars in case of an emergency. Satisfying ones curiosity about "meditation" would be considered by most , as frivolous. Nobody wants to live paycheck to paycheck. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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on 1/4/06 9:14 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it only at MUM that you can take out a student loan to learn TM? I think you can live anywhere and get it, by applying through MUM somehow. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In a message dated 1/4/06 9:31:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes , the TNB's are so mad at Maharishi for wasting his time on promoting healthy living, electric vehicles, solar panel factory in India, organic farming and greenhouses, and a balanced and nature-friendly lifestyle...oh, and I almost forgot..working for the last 50 years to create world peace, getting governents involved where he can, and, having pundits doing continual yagyas and oblations at spiritual sites around India, starting a highly sophisticated Purusha center in the Himalayas, bringing back the Vedic tradition in a systematized and sophisticated form in India. He is so frivolous.OffWorld I remember the days when M refused to discuss proper diet. He said that was not his message to the world, TM was. His only advice on diet was eat what your mother gave you and if something interfered with your meditation avoid it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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On Jan 4, 2006, at 10:21 AM, off_world_beings wrote:Yes , the TNB's are so mad at Maharishi for wasting his time on promoting healthy living, electric vehicles, solar panel factory in India, organic farming and greenhouses, and a balanced and nature- friendly lifestyle...oh, and I almost forgot..working for the last 50 years to create world peace, getting governents involved where he can, and, having pundits doing continual yagyas and oblations at spiritual sites around India, starting a highly sophisticated Purusha center in the Himalayas, bringing back the Vedic tradition in a systematized and sophisticated form in India. He is so frivolous. Could you tell us more about the Purusha center in the Himalayas.It may turn out that one of the best things M. did for humanity was his secondary things: he brought together the best Ayurvedic physicians and had them work together, he helped begin popularizing the idea of Holistic architecture from a vastu-tantra perspective, etc. He also popularized an old idea: meditating in larges groups for a postive effect. Not his version of it is necessarily the one to follow, but his marketing brought it to a wider public audience. In the example of Ayurveda, he may have helped rescue it from oblivion. More and more graduates of Ayurvedic medical schools are switching to Allopathy upon graduation: it's more money for them. Now that Ayurveda is becoming more popular, that trend may change.In regards to governments, the effect may be the opposite--it tuned governments in to what cults can be like--the sad after effect is some governments might be reluctant to interact (or at least be MORE suspicious) of spiritual methods in general. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years. on 1/4/06 10:58 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you tell us more about the Purusha center in the Himalayas. I havent gotten to it yet, but I think theres a chapter about it in Steve Briggs book. He showed slides of it at his recent presentation. The place is like Shangri La. Gorgeous. Nice facility high above Uttar Kashi with an incredible view of the valley from every room. Solar heated hot water, nice well-built rooms, etc. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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on 1/4/06 11:27 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/4/06 10:58 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you tell us more about the Purusha center in the Himalayas. I haven¹t gotten to it yet, but I think there¹s a chapter about it in Steve Briggs¹ book. He showed slides of it at his recent presentation. The place is like Shangri La. Gorgeous. Nice facility high above Uttar Kashi with an incredible view of the valley from every room. Solar heated hot water, nice well-built rooms, etc. Sounds neat. But for those of us who wouldn't know a Purusha if one snuck up and bit us on the ass (we left the movement before these buzzwords arrived), who gets to live there, what do they do for a living, and who pays for it all? Thanks. They're living a monastic life, and are really doing it. They meditate for a living. Sponsors support them. Most of them have been doing it for decades. A lot of them are really great guys. You'd love them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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on 1/4/06 11:48 AM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would NOT want to visit Uttar Kashi these days. The town is sprawling, polluted, and all that ... Plus it has a curfew, and the 'vibes' are really low. Not the pretty place I visited in 1976 and definitely not the saintly area that TMer's are encouraged to imagine about. Actually, nowhere in the area is unspoilt, including Rishikesh, remember India is desparately under-resourced, and has no showcase places for relatively wealthy westerners to live out their fantasies of spiritual India at least certainly not in Rishikesh, Uttar Kashi or near to Jyotir Math. That may be true of the town, but these guys are way up on the mountain. Actually there are two ashrams. Steve showed us slides of one, and the town was visible WAY down in the valley. The other ashram is even higher up. Everything has to be carried up there by donkey and there are no roads. You have to walk up. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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You can get the digital copy for 4.00 US dollar on Amazon. You'll need the recent version of Acrobat Viewer to see it.On Jan 4, 2006, at 1:12 PM, Ingegerd wrote:I have been searching for Steve Briggs book "India-The Land of Truth", in the bookstores in Norway, with no result. If I am to order the book, I need a ISDN-number. Do some of you have that number - and please correct me, if the title is wrong. Is it some place on Internet - that I can order the book? Ingegerd To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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On Jan 4, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote:They're living a monastic life, and are really doing it. They meditate for a living. Sponsors support them. Most of them have been doing it for decades. A lot of them are really great guys. You'd love them. Yeah but the real question is "do they practice any other techniques that rank--file citizen siddhas would not have?"What practices *do* they have? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/4/06 11:27 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/4/06 10:58 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you tell us more about the Purusha center in the Himalayas. I haven¹t gotten to it yet, but I think there¹s a chapter about it in Steve Briggs¹ book. He showed slides of it at his recent presentation. The place is like Shangri La. Gorgeous. Nice facility high above Uttar Kashi with an incredible view of the valley from every room. Solar heated hot water, nice well-built rooms, etc. Sounds neat. But for those of us who wouldn't know a Purusha if one snuck up and bit us on the ass (we left the movement before these buzzwords arrived), who gets to live there, what do they do for a living, and who pays for it all? Thanks. They're living a monastic life, and are really doing it. They meditate for a living. Sponsors support them. Most of them have been doing it for decades. A lot of them are really great guys. You'd love them. Ditto that. I was on Purusha when it first started and most of the guys are really great normal guys. Kool Kats! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.
Rapid enlightnement and global prosperity will be ensured if all people took advantage of all the Maharishi Technologies for Enlightenment. Full cost is $300,000. Which is only $3 a day over 100 years. I'd rather go whole hog and be a Raja for $10 a day over 100 years. --- a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is clearly an idea dreamed up by small minds. Must be by people off the program. You need to think way bigger! Rapid enlightnement and global prosperity will be ensured if all people took advantage of all the Maharishi Technologies for Enlightenment. Full cost is $300,000. Which is only $3 a day over 100 years. To ensure payment, an enlightenment card, will be issued, and like social security, the $3 day will be taken automatically from wages. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In general, southern India is a much nicer and cleaner place than northern India. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would NOT want to visit Uttar Kashi these days. The town is sprawling, polluted, and all that ... Plus it has a curfew, and the 'vibes' are really low. Not the pretty place I visited in 1976 and definitely not the saintly area that TMer's are encouraged to imagine about. Gosh, I can't seem to recall ever having been encouraged to imagine about Uttar Kashi, saintly or otherwise. Actually, nowhere in the area is unspoilt, including Rishikesh, remember India is desparately under-resourced, and has no showcase places for relatively wealthy westerners to live out their fantasies of spiritual India at least certainly not in Rishikesh, Uttar Kashi or near to Jyotir Math. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/4/06 10:58 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you tell us more about the Purusha center in the Himalayas. I haven¹t gotten to it yet, but I think there¹s a chapter about it in Steve Briggs¹ book. He showed slides of it at his recent presentation. The place is like Shangri La. Gorgeous. Nice facility high above Uttar Kashi with an incredible view of the valley from every room. Solar heated hot water, nice well-built rooms, etc. Sounds neat. But for those of us who wouldn't know a Purusha if one snuck up and bit us on the ass (we left the movement before these buzzwords arrived), who gets to live there, what do they do for a living, and who pays for it all? Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In a message dated 1/4/06 12:20:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They're living a monastic life, and are really doing it. Theymeditate for a living. Sponsors support them. Most of them have been doing it fordecades.How many of them has Maharishi proclaimed as fully enlightened? They haven't come up with a price for that yet. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Great. But what I meant was, that *you* put in the dough on a daily basis, not others. Sal On Jan 3, 2006, at 4:38 PM, off_world_beings wrote: That is exactly what I am thinking of doing. I will start a website this year to accomplish this very thing. Anyone want to help put the website content together?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.
On Jan 3, 2006, at 5:50 PM, off_world_beings wrote:I know what you mean't . I will probably put some in myself, and ask others to contribute. Are you ready to give up your cafe-lattes so that some inner city kid can benefit? No reallyare you? No, I know enough now that I wouldn't want to give that. There ARE better choices. TM would be last on my list. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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I'm not the one haranguing people about how they should give up this and that and basically do anything so they can get the $$ to start. I don't believe they should. I don't believe the benefits of TM, whatever they might be for an individual, are worth that kind of $$ or anything close to it. It just looks like a crass money-making scheme to me. So, no, I won't be contributing. But since *you* feel that way, I assume you will be putting in all or most of the $$. Correct? Sal On Jan 3, 2006, at 4:50 PM, off_world_beings wrote: I know what you mean't . I will probably put some in myself, and ask others to contribute. Are you ready to give up your cafe-lattes so that some inner city kid can benefit? No reallyare you?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.
No, no interest in your scheme as I feel it's basically a huge waste of time. How many different ways does somebody have to say it? If you want to spend your time and $$ like that, be my guest. I choose to help people, when I can, on a far more concrete level. Sal On Jan 3, 2006, at 5:28 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Excuses, excuses. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not the one haranguing people about how they should give up this > and that and basically do anything so they can get the $$ to start. I > don't believe they should. I don't believe the benefits of TM, whatever > they might be for an individual, are worth that kind of $$ or anything > close to it. It just looks like a crass money-making scheme to me. So, > no, I won't be contributing. > > But since *you* feel that way, I assume you will be putting in all or > most of the $$. Correct? > > Sal >
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And I just noticed you didn't answer my question, so I'll post it again, below. Sal On Jan 3, 2006, at 5:28 PM, off_world_beings wrote: > But since *you* feel that way, I assume you will be putting in all or > most of the $$. Correct?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.
Exactly. :) Just think of all those people who *could* be learning if he actually believed in what he is telling everyone else to do. Sal On Jan 3, 2006, at 5:59 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: Yes. What is the price of another person's enlightenment? Priceless. Off should be doing three jobs, liiving in a hut and donating all of his income to the TMO. But he is not. Selfish bastard!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.
In a message dated 1/3/06 7:12:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How stupid, everyone should give what they are comfortable with. And cut down on the cafe lattes and dumb hollywood movies you keep watching. Why not find somebody that is in real need of giving and buy them some food or clothing or pay a bill and go have your cafe lattes and watch a dumb movie. Let Maharishi give somebody TM, he has more money than any of us anyway. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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In a message dated 1/3/06 7:24:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are just mad because it REALLY riles you that TM only costs $3.30 a day for 2 years. I would love to see the TMO accept payments of $3.30 a day for 2 years. I would get an advanced technique just to watch that! Could you imagine the nightmare in the accounting department! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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In a message dated 1/3/06 7:37:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why does your judgemental mind assume that I don't?Do you give money to the needy?OffWorld Geee Off, don't take it so personally. I meant it as something anybody can do, not a prescription just for you. I never give money to the needy. However I do buy food and clothing for them occasionally and give cash to charitable organizations that help the needysuch as supplying shelter to the homeless.It's really great to see the _expression_ on the face of pan handlers when you hand them a bag with a fish sandwich and fries instead of a couple of bucks or hand them a new T shirt or new pair of jeans or new socks. Many look really confused when you hand it to them but the next time you see them they are wearing what you gave them. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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on 1/3/06 7:38 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How stupid. Childish. Pathetic too. Attacking the poster because you can't get around the argument that TM only costs $3.30 a day for 2 years, and that there is no argument they can come up with to counter it. They are truely pissed and cannot handle the thought that for that price, dozens, possibly hundreds of people, learn TM in India, every time a person learns TM in the US. What makes you think that money raised in the US is applied to helping people in India learn TM? How do you know that it's not squirreled away in some bank account or squandered on frivolous projects? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In a message dated 1/3/06 8:30:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I never give money to the needy. However I do buy food and clothing for them occasionally and give cash tocharitable organizations that help the needy such as supplying shelter to the homeless. Because: i) as a conservative you don't believe in the value of personal choiceand freedom ii) you are afraid that they may spend the money on escapistpasttimes: alcohol, drugs or TM?iii) you only carry confederate money?:) My political philosophy has nothing to do with it. Many people who are down and out are so because of bad decisions and I don't want to feed that process. So, I give them something wholesome, something they could use that won't hurt them. Christ said " I was naked and you clothed me, I was hungry and you fed me" I would hate to think he said " I was bored and you got me stoned". I also knew a priest who did yagayas and part of many of the yagyas he did ended with distributing food and clothing to the poor. M also said don't give beggers money because it fosters their dependence on begging. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.
on 1/3/06 8:50 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People learn TM in India. Many people, I know some of them. I also know people who have learned for free or virtually nothing in 3rd world countries. Many schoolchildren too learn. 400+ Buddhist monks just learned TM in Thailand. Do you suppose they paid for it? Many activities are being conducted around the world with proceeds from the West, some of them fruitful, some of them not...many of them are paid for by proceeds from the West. You are right. At least that's the way it was when I was involved. But informed people still say that a large percentage is misdirected. I guess that's the price of doing business in 3rd world countries. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.
No, I know enough now that I wouldn't want to give that. There ARE better choices. TM would be last on my list. Last on my list as well. Even if TM cost 25 dollars and the TMO were as dynamic and idealistic as it was in 1975, I would still direct interested people elsewhere. Of all the techniques I have done, the TM sidhis was the slowest and was the only one with an array of side effects. TM alone would, of course, be even slower than the TM sidhis. --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 3, 2006, at 5:50 PM, off_world_beings wrote: I know what you mean't . I will probably put some in myself, and ask others to contribute. Are you ready to give up your cafe-lattes so that some inner city kid can benefit? No reallyare you? No, I know enough now that I wouldn't want to give that. There ARE better choices. TM would be last on my list. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
