date:20050608

Hi guys,
I knew that if anyone could help it would be here, One of my babies has swollen lymphnodes under her arms and when I gave her a bath she has some sores on her body. I know the lymphnodes are a problem with FeLV but has anyone heard of sores also being a sign? They are not huge bigger than a pencil mark but not so big that you could see them petting or brushing her, I just was going to start some Neosporin to see if that helps at all, any thoughts?

Thanks 
CherieHave a purrfect day
Cherie

Re: Problem - I think?

2005-06-08 Thread gblane

Hi Cherie -

When my sweet Mittens started regurgitating his food, he also had swollen lymph 
nodes.  The vet diagnosed lymphoma.  There were several traditional chemo 
options.  I chose to get Vincristine shots for him.  It did make the lymph 
nodes go down, he could eat without throwing up, and he seemed to feel better.  

After a few shots, his skin became very sensitive - I assumed it was the 
Vincristine.  he had a few sores, and the skin would break easily. One time I 
came home and found blood on the bathroom floor.  he must have been playing 
with another cat, or perhaps fallen. 

I can't remember what I did for it, but was suspicious of the vincristine.  
Think I put aloe vera on it, or gave supplements orally.  I later learned about 
the Wisconsin protocol, where the drugs are alternated.

Just my experience - best of luck,

Gloria


Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :

 Hi guys,
 I knew that if anyone could help it would be here, One of my babies has 
 swollen lymphnodes under her arms and when I gave her a bath she has some 
 sores on her body. I know the lymphnodes are a problem with FeLV but has 
 anyone heard of sores also being a sign? They are not huge bigger than a 
 pencil mark but not so big that you could see them petting or brushing her, I 
 just was going to start some Neosporin to see if that helps at all, any 
 thoughts?
 nbsp;
 Thanks 
 CherieHave a purrfect day
 Cherie
 nbsp;

Update on Bronx Nuns

Title: Message



UPDATE JUNE 7TH 2005"Pets Alive" Offers Sanctuary to Corpus Christi 
Monastery Cats(June 7, 
2005 / 7 pm EST) In an exemplary show of compassion, Sara Whalen, head of 
Pets Alive 
_javascript_:ol('http://www.petsalive.com'); 
, has offered to provide a new home for 
the seven feral cats now facing starvation and possible impoundment and death at 
the hands of the nuns of the Corpus Christi Monastery in the Bronx, New York. 
The grounds of the monastery have been home to the neutered and 
rabies-vaccinated cats for the past eight years. Sister Helen, Vicar of the 
Religious Office for the Archdiocese of NY, has stated that the nuns of the 
monastery are considering whether to allow volunteers to trap and remove the 
cats so they can be transferred to Pets Alive.We hope compassion will 
prevail and all parties will agree to this solution. The cats have now not 
been fed for six days and 
counting.

Re: need prayers please!

2005-06-08 Thread carlas

Sending healing vibes to Corky.

Carla

Date sent:  Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:08:37 -0600
From:   Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Copies to:  Subject:need prayers please!
Send reply to:  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 One of my 4 year old babies, a mutt doggy, Corky (mix of Scottie,
 Westie and Schnauzer) all of sudden started having bloody stools early
 this morning - or I should say, there really was no stools, just tons
 and tons of dark red bloods coming out like a flood so much came out
 that I almost fainted - I never seen so much blood at one place- she
 has also thrown up - I took her to her the emergency clinic getting
 some IV and antibiotics - she bleeded there also.  After some testing,
 they narrowed it down to a couple of things - and they are hoping that
 fluid therapy and the antibiotics will treat her -  please pray for
 Cork's recovery - a poor baby, she is very scared there, she is never
 out of the house and I really want to be able to bring her home soon!

 Also, last Saturday, I rescued a boy kitty who I had been feeding for
 several months now.  I  noticed that he lost lots of weight (I hadn't
 seen him for a couple of weeks) - and I took him to the vet -
 everything seems to be OK except that on ELISA, he tested positive on
 FIV - now I am having Cornell Lab to do the western blot (as I had a
 couple of cats who tested positive on FIV via ELISA, and ended up
 negative later) - anyway, now I have to figure out where to place him
 - he must have belonged to someone a long time ago, as he is very
 friendly and used to people. I talked to Carl (I named him Carl) via
 AC - Carl told my AC that he used to be an indoor kitty when she was a
 kitten, and somehow he became an outdoor kitty, and somehow, then he
 did not have a home anywhere - I asked via AC, if he would like to
 stay with me and to be an indoor kitty, he said he would like that
 very much - I hope his lost weight is just a temporary, and I am so
 praying that the western blot will come back as negative - please also
 pray for Carl's well-being, he is such a sweet baby, and he has had a
 rough life since he had lost home...

Re: Healing-Health Issues (bach flower essences, alt therapies)

2005-06-08 Thread Belinda Sauro

   Metacam is used for some of the kitties that have advanced cancer.  
For the most part I don't recall anyone having problems with it.


--
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Re: Update on Bronx Nuns

2005-06-08 Thread carlas

When are they gonna take the cats? Does anyone know?

From:   Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date sent:  Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:55:21 -0400 
Copies to:  Subject:Update on Bronx Nuns
Send reply to:  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 UPDATE JUNE 7TH 2005

 Pets Alive Offers Sanctuary to Corpus Christi Monastery Cats

 (June 7, 2005 / 7 pm EST) In an exemplary show of compassion, Sara
 Whalen, head of Pets Alive
 javascript:ol('/http://www.petsalive.com');
 http://www.petsalive.com');  , has offered to provide a new home
 for the seven feral cats now facing starvation and possible
 impoundment and death at the hands of the nuns of the Corpus Christi
 Monastery in the Bronx, New York. The grounds of the monastery have
 been home to the neutered and rabies-vaccinated cats for the past
 eight years. Sister Helen, Vicar of the Religious Office for the
 Archdiocese of NY, has stated that the nuns of the monastery are
 considering whether to allow volunteers to trap and remove the cats so
 they can be transferred to Pets Alive.

 We hope compassion will prevail and all parties will agree to this
 solution.

 The cats have now not been fed for six days and counting.

RE: Update on Bronx Nuns

The nuns have to agree to it--it is their property.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Update on Bronx Nuns

When are they gonna take the cats? Does anyone know?

From:   Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date sent:  Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:55:21 -0400 
Copies to:  Subject:Update on Bronx Nuns
Send reply to:  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 UPDATE JUNE 7TH 2005

 Pets Alive Offers Sanctuary to Corpus Christi Monastery Cats

 (June 7, 2005 / 7 pm EST) In an exemplary show of compassion, Sara 
 Whalen, head of Pets Alive 
 javascript:ol('/http://www.petsalive.com');
 http://www.petsalive.com');  , has offered to provide a new home 
 for the seven feral cats now facing starvation and possible 
 impoundment and death at the hands of the nuns of the Corpus Christi 
 Monastery in the Bronx, New York. The grounds of the monastery have 
 been home to the neutered and rabies-vaccinated cats for the past 
 eight years. Sister Helen, Vicar of the Religious Office for the 
 Archdiocese of NY, has stated that the nuns of the monastery are 
 considering whether to allow volunteers to trap and remove the cats so 
 they can be transferred to Pets Alive.

 We hope compassion will prevail and all parties will agree to this 
 solution.

 The cats have now not been fed for six days and counting.

RE: Update on Bronx Nuns

Title: Message









I also sent e-mails but it sure looks like
theyre just going to wait everyone out  let the cats starve to
death or hope they just magically disappear! Do you have any clue as to why
the change in allowing people to feed this colony 





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Doljan, Joan
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
8:55 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Update
on Bronx Nuns





UPDATE JUNE 7TH 2005

Pets Alive Offers Sanctuary to Corpus Christi Monastery Cats

(June 7, 2005 / 7 pm EST) In an exemplary show of
compassion, Sara Whalen, head of Pets Alive
_javascript_:ol('http://www.petsalive.com');
, has offered to provide a new home for the seven feral cats now facing
starvation and possible impoundment and death at the hands of the nuns of the
Corpus Christi Monastery in the Bronx, New York. The grounds of the monastery
have been home to the neutered and rabies-vaccinated cats for the past eight
years. Sister Helen, Vicar of the Religious Office for the Archdiocese of NY,
has stated that the nuns of the monastery are considering whether to allow
volunteers to trap and remove the cats so they can be transferred to Pets
Alive.

We hope compassion will prevail and all parties will agree to this solution. 


The cats have now not been fed for six
days and counting.

RE: Update on Bronx Nuns

Title: Message









I did  also neighborhood cats.





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Doljan, Joan
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
9:48 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: RE: Update on Bronx Nuns





No. Email the
convent.





-Original
Message-
From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
9:42 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Update on Bronx Nuns

I also sent e-mails but
it sure looks like they're just going to wait everyone out  let the cats
starve to death or hope they just magically disappear! Do you have any
clue as to why the change in allowing people to feed this colony 





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Doljan, Joan
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
8:55 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Update
on Bronx Nuns





UPDATE JUNE 7TH 2005

Pets Alive Offers Sanctuary to Corpus Christi Monastery Cats

(June 7, 2005 / 7 pm EST) In an exemplary show of
compassion, Sara Whalen, head of Pets Alive
_javascript_:ol('http://www.petsalive.com');
, has offered to provide a new home for the seven feral cats now facing
starvation and possible impoundment and death at the hands of the nuns of the
Corpus Christi Monastery in the Bronx, New York. The grounds of the monastery
have been home to the neutered and rabies-vaccinated cats for the past eight
years. Sister Helen, Vicar of the Religious Office for the Archdiocese of NY,
has stated that the nuns of the monastery are considering whether to allow
volunteers to trap and remove the cats so they can be transferred to Pets
Alive.

We hope compassion will prevail and all parties will agree to this solution. 


The cats have now not been fed for six
days and counting.

RE: Update on Bronx Nuns

Title: Message



Chris,

Are 
you in the NYC area?

  
  -Original Message-From: Chris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:48 
  AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Update on 
  Bronx Nuns
  
  I did  also 
  neighborhood cats
  
  
  Chris
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doljan, JoanSent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:48 
  AMTo: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'Subject: RE: Update on Bronx 
  Nuns
  
  
  No. Email the 
  convent.
  
-Original 
Message-From: Chris 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:42 
AMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Update on Bronx 
Nuns
I also 
sent e-mails but it sure looks like they're just going to wait everyone out 
 let the cats starve to death or hope they just magically 
disappear! Do you have any clue as to why the change in allowing 
people to feed this colony 


Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doljan, JoanSent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:55 
AMTo: 
'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Update on 
Bronx Nuns


UPDATE JUNE 7TH 
2005"Pets Alive" Offers 
Sanctuary to Corpus Christi Monastery Cats(June 7, 2005 / 7 pm EST) In 
an exemplary show of compassion, Sara Whalen, head of Pets 
Alive _javascript_:ol('http://www.petsalive.com'); 
, has offered to provide a new 
home for the seven feral cats now facing starvation and possible impoundment 
and death at the hands of the nuns of the Corpus Christi Monastery in the 
Bronx, New York. The grounds of the monastery have been home to the neutered 
and rabies-vaccinated cats for the past eight years. Sister Helen, Vicar of 
the Religious Office for the Archdiocese of NY, has stated that the nuns of 
the monastery are considering whether to allow volunteers to trap and remove 
the cats so they can be transferred to Pets Alive.We hope compassion 
will prevail and all parties will agree to this solution. 
The cats 
have now not been fed for six days and 
  counting.

RE: Update on Bronx Nuns

Title: Message









Westchester.





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Doljan, Joan
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
9:56 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: RE: Update on Bronx Nuns





Chris,











Are you in the NYC area?





-Original
Message-
From: Chris
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
9:48 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Update on Bronx Nuns

I did  also neighborhood
cats





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Doljan, Joan
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
9:48 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: RE: Update on Bronx Nuns





No.
Email the convent.





-Original
Message-
From: Chris
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
9:42 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Update on Bronx Nuns

I also
sent e-mails but it sure looks like they're just going to wait everyone out
 let the cats starve to death or hope they just magically disappear!
Do you have any clue as to why the change in allowing people to feed this
colony 





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Doljan, Joan
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
8:55 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Update
on Bronx Nuns





UPDATE JUNE 7TH 2005

Pets Alive Offers Sanctuary to Corpus Christi Monastery Cats

(June 7, 2005 / 7 pm EST) In an exemplary show of
compassion, Sara Whalen, head of Pets Alive
_javascript_:ol('http://www.petsalive.com');
, has offered to provide a new home for the seven feral cats now facing
starvation and possible impoundment and death at the hands of the nuns of the
Corpus Christi Monastery in the Bronx, New York. The grounds of the monastery
have been home to the neutered and rabies-vaccinated cats for the past eight
years. Sister Helen, Vicar of the Religious Office for the Archdiocese of NY,
has stated that the nuns of the monastery are considering whether to allow
volunteers to trap and remove the cats so they can be transferred to Pets
Alive.

We hope compassion will prevail and all parties will agree to this solution. 


The cats have now not been fed for six
days and counting.

FW:Websites to contact local affiliates - Bronx Nuns

Title: Message



These 
are the websites of the NYC local affiliates. If you live in the area, you 
can email them (through these sites) and contact their assignment 
desks.

Joan
On 6/8/05 9:52 AM, "Doljan, Joan" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
www.cbs2ny.com http://www.cbs2ny.com 
  www.abclocal.go.com http://www.abclocal.go.com 
  www.wnbc.com http://www.wnbc.com

Re: Update on Bronx Nuns

2005-06-08 Thread Del Daniels

Title: Message



Big hugs to Pets Alive for offering to take these 
kitties. And these nuns have not decided whether to allow the volunteers 
to save the kitties? Boy, they really have a mean streak! If they 
want the cats out of there they should be overjoyed at the offer. I'm not 
the only one angry about this, am I. 

Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Doljan, Joan 
  To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:55 
  AM
  Subject: Update on Bronx Nuns
  
  UPDATE JUNE 7TH 2005"Pets Alive" Offers Sanctuary to Corpus Christi 
  Monastery Cats(June 7, 
  2005 / 7 pm EST) In an exemplary show of compassion, Sara Whalen, head of 
  Pets Alive _javascript_:ol('http://www.petsalive.com'); 
  , has offered to provide a new home for 
  the seven feral cats now facing starvation and possible impoundment and death 
  at the hands of the nuns of the Corpus Christi Monastery in the Bronx, New 
  York. The grounds of the monastery have been home to the neutered and 
  rabies-vaccinated cats for the past eight years. Sister Helen, Vicar of the 
  Religious Office for the Archdiocese of NY, has stated that the nuns of the 
  monastery are considering whether to allow volunteers to trap and remove the 
  cats so they can be transferred to Pets Alive.We hope compassion will 
  prevail and all parties will agree to this solution. The cats have now not 
  been fed for six days and 
counting.

RE: Update on Bronx Nuns

Title: Message



Of 
course not!

  
  -Original Message-From: Del Daniels 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:11 
  AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Update on 
  Bronx Nuns
  Big hugs to Pets Alive for offering to take these 
  kitties. And these nuns have not decided whether to allow the volunteers 
  to save the kitties? Boy, they really have a mean streak! If they 
  want the cats out of there they should be overjoyed at the offer. I'm 
  not the only one angry about this, am I. 
  
  Del
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Doljan, Joan 

To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 

Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:55 
AM
Subject: Update on Bronx Nuns

UPDATE JUNE 7TH 
2005"Pets 
Alive" Offers Sanctuary to Corpus Christi Monastery Cats(June 7, 2005 / 7 pm EST) In an exemplary 
show of compassion, Sara Whalen, head of Pets 
Alive _javascript_:ol('http://www.petsalive.com'); 
, has offered to provide a new home 
for the seven feral cats now facing starvation and possible impoundment and 
death at the hands of the nuns of the Corpus Christi Monastery in the Bronx, 
New York. The grounds of the monastery have been home to the neutered and 
rabies-vaccinated cats for the past eight years. Sister Helen, Vicar of the 
Religious Office for the Archdiocese of NY, has stated that the nuns of the 
monastery are considering whether to allow volunteers to trap and remove the 
cats so they can be transferred to Pets Alive.We hope compassion 
will prevail and all parties will agree to this solution. The cats have now 
not been fed for six days and 
  counting.

Re: Update on Bronx Nuns

2005-06-08 Thread Susan Loesch

VERY definitely NOT!Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Big hugs to Pets Alive for offering to take these kitties. And these nuns have not decided whether to allow the volunteers to save the kitties? Boy, they really have a mean streak! If they want the cats out of there they should be overjoyed at the offer. I'm not the only one angry about this, am I. 

Del

- Original Message - 
From: Doljan, Joan 
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:55 AM
Subject: Update on Bronx Nuns

UPDATE JUNE 7TH 2005"Pets Alive" Offers Sanctuary to Corpus Christi Monastery Cats(June 7, 2005 / 7 pm EST) In an exemplary show of compassion, Sara Whalen, head of Pets Alive _javascript_:ol('http://www.petsalive.com'); , has offered to provide a new home for the seven feral cats now facing starvation and possible impoundment and death at the hands of the nuns of the Corpus Christi Monastery in the Bronx, New York. The grounds of the monastery have been home to the neutered and rabies-vaccinated cats for the past eight years. Sister Helen, Vicar of the Religious Office for the Archdiocese of NY, has stated that the nuns of the monastery
 are considering whether to allow volunteers to trap and remove the cats so they can be transferred to Pets Alive.We hope compassion will prevail and all parties will agree to this solution. The cats have now not been fed for six days and counting.

RE: AC-Simba

2005-06-08 Thread Lewis Faye

I am trying this. I appreciate the good thoughts.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









Keep us posted with Simba  
Again, I will continue with the meditation until he is found  but I hope you will too, as it will be the most powerful coming from you than me - and I hope people on the list will help mediate for Simba, too.

You imagine a golden coil, coming from your hear center, reaching into the world 
Searching and probing for missing Simba. Latch onto him like a magnet and guiding him safely home to Lewis.








From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lewis FayeSent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 3:39 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: AC-Simba


I will never stop looking for him I am afraid. He was a feral cat but he was, of all my cats, the most devoted to me. He isn't people friendly but I do believe he loved his family. I don't think he ever would have run off if it hadn't been for those dogs. 



I will look into consulting with Kat. I haven't had time to check that out yet.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Are you planning to consult with Kat on Simba? 
I hope you will  it might give you a good clue as to how to find him  

I will be also praying that you and Simba will be re-united very soon. I have been re-united with a cat who had been missing months in the past  dont give up  he needs you to continue to look for him.





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lewis FayeSent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:54 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: AC-Simba


I did read the article. It made some great points. 



There are several problems. The reason I didn't chase after him that day is because I couldn't climb the cliff and it was fenced off and posted to boot.



The posting is a major problem. The thing is people in this area rarely post keep out signs. It makes me wonder if the owners are operating a meth lab which is currently in epidemic in our rural area. It is a new development but we have had 2 houses explode within the last 6 months. On this land, nearest house is well off the road past the signs. In our part of the world, people are very friendly and don't get bent out of shape with their neighbors chasing a cat onto their land but these same folks don't post signs either. Plus, the land is fenced with barb wire and very thick with brush. 



The cat I sawmight not be him. There was an orange tabby cat run over on that same street. I stopped by that dead body every day for 2 weeks and examined every hair on the body. It wasn't Simba but I couldn't get it out of my mind that it was and had to keep reassuring myself. I see a red or orange tabby and I think Simba.

Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Faye,Did you read the article posted about methods of finding lost animals based on their personalities? Why don't you set a humane trap in the area you spotted him? If you don't own a trap, you can usually rent them from feed stores, or get a rescue in your area that cares about ferals to help. Write to me off list if you want some suggestions about effectively setting the trap. I know how hard the 'not knowing' is. I would trust your instincts on this, do you think he's still alive? Even if that wasn't Simba you spotted, somebody's out there that could use your help. You spotted that cat for a reason. Let me know what you decide to do.NinaLewis Faye wrote: Nina, the cat I saw was thin and looked like he had lost weight  recently. Simba is a good hunter and there is plenty of mice, rats,  and
 voles for him to eat and he does eat them. I wish I could have  had a couple of more minutes to look at him to make sure. I was so  stunned at seeing him in that place, that my mind wasn't at its best.  */Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: Oh Faye, he's such a handsome man! I'm so sorry to hear Simba is still missing. He must be being fed by someone, if that was him. Have you done all the things that Gloria and her pals did in searching for Sam? Even if you have, it might be worth starting over. If someone has been feeding him, I'm sure they don't know that he has been missed all this time. I hope that was him, and that he'll finally be reunited with you somehow and soon. Nina Lewis Faye wrote:  Would you please do a reading for my baby, Simba? I lost him months  ago and a few weeks ago, I
 thought I saw him. However, he climbed an  incline that I could not climb and took off before I could verify that  it was him. It may not have been him. However when I called his name,  he stopped and looked at me. However, I could not look at him long  enough to really tell for 100%. He was probably chased out of my yard  by stray dogs. The dogs have been destroyed. They were vicious dogs.   Here is his picture:   http://images.snapfish.com/343%3B2%3C%3A%3B23232%7Ffp47%3Dot%3E233%3A%3D937%3D32%3A%3DXROQDF%3E23236%3A94699%3A2ot1lsi   Thank you,  Faye  *//* __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?

RE: Websites to contact local affiliates - Bronx Nuns

Title: Message









Done





Chris

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-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Doljan, Joan
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
10:01 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: FW:Websites to contact
local affiliates - Bronx Nuns





These are the websites of
the NYC local affiliates. If you live in the area, you can email them
(through these sites) and contact their assignment desks.











Joan




On 6/8/05 9:52 AM, Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

www.cbs2ny.com
http://www.cbs2ny.com 

www.abclocal.go.com http://www.abclocal.go.com


www.wnbc.com http://www.wnbc.com

RE: Websites to contact local affiliates - Bronx Nuns

Title: Message









Just called the Monastery  was sent
to the vicars office 212-372-1000 ext. 2576. The person handling this
told me that Sister Helen I talking to neighborhood cats org.. would
not tell me why they decided to change their policy I pointed out that
while Sister H. talked, these cats who have been fed for 8 years are slowing
starving to death or dying of thirst. Suggested that because of publicity, the
archdiose may find itself with news crew at the front door filming carcasses!
I dont really think I made a dent but perhaps if anyone in this can also
call, it cant hurt.





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Doljan, Joan
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
10:01 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: FW:Websites to contact
local affiliates - Bronx Nuns





These are the websites of
the NYC local affiliates. If you live in the area, you can email them
(through these sites) and contact their assignment desks.











Joan




On 6/8/05 9:52 AM, Doljan, Joan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

www.cbs2ny.com
http://www.cbs2ny.com 

www.abclocal.go.com http://www.abclocal.go.com


www.wnbc.com http://www.wnbc.com

Re: Problem - I think?

No hair loss or constant itching.I was curious if sores are another symptom of FeLV?
Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ringworm  From: Cherie A Gabbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2005/06/08 Wed AM 05:51:29 EDT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Problem - I think?  Hi guys, I knew that if anyone could help it would be here, One of my babies has swollen lymphnodes under her arms and when I gave her a bath she has some sores on her body. I know the lymphnodes are a problem with FeLV but has anyone heard of sores also being a sign? They are not huge bigger than a pencil mark but not so big that you could see them petting or brushing her, I just was going to start some Neosporin to see if that helps at all, any thoughts?  Thanks  Cherie   Have a purrfect day Cherie   Have a purrfect
 day
Cherie

Re: Bramble

2005-06-08 Thread Joan Doljan

Michelle,

I am so sorry about Bramble.He is though a lucky boy to have found a compassionate person, such as yourself, to help release him from his pain.

Joan.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bramble is going to the vet in 1 1/2 hours. I came in to find him appearing visually impaired - he couldn't see the piece of chicken and was startled when I put it to his nose - he then had difficulty judging the floor from my knee and was hesitant to get down. He then went into a seizure - writhing around for about 4 minutes and has just done that for another minute about 30mins later. The other 2 cats are scared again.

I'm pretty sure this will have to be a euthansia case today - I am going to push on the flea treatment adverse effects though - but I can say that he is now suffering and I can't let him suffer if they can't do anything.

These decisions hurt so bad but my baby boy without doubt is in the full blown faids stage - his weight is plummeting fast even though he has eaten. I just hope if the vet says theE word and I go ahead that it is right for him. Whilst I think the flea treatment may well have exacerbated this I'm sure the FIV is a lot to blame too. I'll let you know the outcome.

Michelle L

Re: Bramble

2005-06-08 Thread carlas

Michelle,

I am sorry to hear about Bramble. My Bamama had full blown 
aides for 3 yrs. I found different things to keep her going for 2 1/2 
yrs but I had to be home to feed her everyday for lunch too and I 
was lucky to live so close to home. The last 6 months of her life 
was very up and down and my vet said when you have more bad 
then good, you will know. My heart goes out to you.

Carla


Date sent:  Wed, 8 Jun 2005 07:46:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:   Joan Doljan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Copies to:  Subject:Re: Bramble
Send reply to:  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Michelle,
 
 I am so sorry about Bramble. He is though a lucky boy to have found a
 compassionate person, such as yourself, to help release him from his
 pain.
 
 Joan.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bramble is going to the vet in 1 1/2 hours. I came in to find him
 appearing visually impaired - he couldn't see the piece of chicken and
 was startled when I put it to his nose - he then had difficulty
 judging the floor from my knee and was hesitant to get down. He then
 went into a seizure - writhing around for about 4 minutes and has just
 done that for another minute about 30mins later. The other 2 cats are
 scared again.
 
 I'm pretty sure this will have to be a euthansia case today - I am
 going to push on the flea treatment adverse effects though - but I can
 say that he is now suffering and I can't let him suffer if they can't
 do anything.
 
 These decisions hurt so bad but my baby boy without doubt is in the
 full blown faids stage - his weight is plummeting fast even though he
 has eaten. I just hope if the vet says the E word and I go ahead that
 it is right for him. Whilst I think the flea treatment may well have
 exacerbated this I'm sure the FIV is a lot to blame too. I'll let you
 know the outcome.
 
 Michelle L

Re: Update on Bronx Nuns

Man, is that not true.  It's amazing how cruel and uncompassionate the 
people in spiritual and caring organizations can be sometimes.  I cat-sat 
for a nun who moved down here from Iowa, she was afraid that the Carmelite 
Fathers there were going to kill the cat if she left it, and didn't have a 
place for the kitty for several months.  This was probably 15 years ago.


Ahgg.

Gloria

At 09:10 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
Big hugs to Pets Alive for offering to take these kitties.  And these nuns 
have not decided whether to allow the volunteers to save the 
kitties?  Boy, they really have a mean streak!  If they want the cats out 
of there they should be overjoyed at the offer.  I'm not the only one 
angry about this, am I.


Del
- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Doljan, Joan
To: mailto:'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org''felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 7:55 AM
Subject: Update on Bronx Nuns

UPDATE JUNE 7TH 2005

Pets Alive Offers Sanctuary to Corpus Christi Monastery Cats

(June 7, 2005 / 7 pm EST) In an exemplary show of compassion, Sara Whalen, 
head of Pets Alive 
javascript:ol('http://www.petsalive.com');http://www.petsalive.com'); 
, has offered to provide a new home for the seven feral cats now facing 
starvation and possible impoundment and death at the hands of the nuns of 
the Corpus Christi Monastery in the Bronx, New York. The grounds of the 
monastery have been home to the neutered and rabies-vaccinated cats for 
the past eight years. Sister Helen, Vicar of the Religious Office for the 
Archdiocese of NY, has stated that the nuns of the monastery are 
considering whether to allow volunteers to trap and remove the cats so 
they can be transferred to Pets Alive.


We hope compassion will prevail and all parties will agree to this solution.


The cats have now not been fed for six days and counting.

Re: Problem - I think?

Have you heard of skin problems from FeLV such as this?"Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, FELV itself is not a disease. What you're seeing could be a symptom of FELV related diseases, caused by the Feline Leukemia Virus. Not all cats get the skin problem though. And the FELV virus can lead to a variety of diseases, not all the same.Best of luck,GloriaAt 09:40 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote:No hair loss or constant itching.I was curious if sores are another symptom of FeLV?Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:ringworm   From: Cherie A Gabbert  Date: 2005/06/08 Wed AM 05:51:29 EDT  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Subject: Problem - I think?   Hi guys,  I knew that if anyone could help it would be here, One of my babies has  swollen lymphnodes under her arms and when I gave her a bath
 she has some  sores on her body. I know the lymphnodes are a problem with FeLV but has  anyone heard of sores also being a sign? They are not huge bigger than a  pencil mark but not so big that you could see them petting or brushing  her, I just was going to start some Neosporin to see if that helps at  all, any thoughts?   Thanks  CherieHave a purrfect day  Cherie   Have a purrfect dayCherieHave a purrfect day
Cherie

Re: Problem - I think?

Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned, I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
Cherie



Hi Cherie -When my sweet Mittens started regurgitating his food, he also had swollen lymph nodes. The vet diagnosed lymphoma. There were several traditional chemo options. I chose to get Vincristine shots for him. It did make the lymph nodes go down, he could eat without throwing up, and he seemed to feel better. After a few shots, his skin became very sensitive - I assumed it was the Vincristine. he had a few sores, and the skin would break easily. One time I came home and found blood on the bathroom floor. he must have been playing with another cat, or perhaps fallen. I can't remember what I did for it, but was suspicious of the vincristine. Think I put aloe vera on it, or gave supplements orally. I later learned about the Wisconsin protocol, where the drugs are alternated.Just my experience - best of luck,GloriaHave a purrfect day
Cherie

Re: Problem - I think?

Barb, is animax a perscrition?Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I wouldn't use neomycin - it can be an allergen and an allergic reaction on already sensitive skin is not fun.

I have something from my vet called animax and it's a combination antibiotic and steroid - I put it on little bumpies that Smoky gets and scratches he ends up with from Bandit.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Cherie -When my sweet Mittens started regurgitating his food, he also had swollen lymph nodes. The vet diagnosed lymphoma. There were several traditional chemo options. I chose to get Vincristine shots for him. It did make the lymph nodes go down, he could eat without throwing up, and he seemed to feel better. After a few shots, his skin became very sensitive - I assumed it was the Vincristine. he had a few sores, and the skin would break easily. One time I came home and found blood on the bathroom floor. he must have been playing with another cat, or perhaps fallen. I can't remember what I did for it, but was suspicious of the vincristine. Think I put aloe vera on it, or gave supplements orally. I later learned about the Wisconsin protocol, where the drugs are alternated.Just my experience - best of luck,GloriaCherie A Gabbert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote : Hi guys, I knew that if anyone could help it would be here, One of my babies has swollen lymphnodes under her arms and when I gave her a bath she has some sores on her body. I know the lymphnodes are a problem with FeLV but has anyone heard of sores also being a sign? They are not huge bigger than a pencil mark but not so big that you could see them petting or brushing her, I just was going to start some Neosporin to see if that helps at all, any thoughts? Thanks CherieHave a purrfect day Cherie Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous

Discover Yahoo!Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing more. Check it out!Have a purrfect day
Cherie

Re: Problem - I think?

2005-06-08 Thread Barb Moermond

yes I believe it is - if you can't get her in or the vet won't give it to you - use something like bacitracin instead - just stay away from neomycin and things that have neomycinCherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Barb, is animax a perscrition?Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I wouldn't use neomycin - it can be an allergen and an allergic reaction on already sensitive skin is not fun.

Discover Yahoo!Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing more. Check it out!
Have a purrfect day
Cherie
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Re: wanted: FELV kitty near Oklahoma City

2005-06-08 Thread Belinda Sauro


  Gloria,
 Has she looked on the Adopt An FeLV/FIV/FIP Posting Board?

Missouri:
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=11009
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=11025
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=10973
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=10972


Kansas:
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=11030

Texas:
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=10968
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=10892

Indiana:
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=10971

Illinois:
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=10880
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=10813
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Re: Bramble





Michelle,
There's nothing I can say that you don't already know. I feel your
pain in having to make the toughest decision we ever face. It does
sound like Bramble is suffering, but you're there, I'm not. Make sure
you've made peace with letting him go, if that's what you decide to
do. Remember, helping him pass, helping him escape the pain, is for
him, not for you. It's something we can do for our animal loved ones
that we can't do for our human loves, and it is a great gift of love.
My thoughts and prayers are with all four of you.
Blessings and much love,
Nina


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  Bramble is going to the vet in 1 1/2 hours. I came in to find
him appearing visually impaired - he couldn't see the piece of chicken
and was startled when I put it to his nose - he then had difficulty
judging the floor from my knee and was hesitant to get down. He then
went into a seizure - writhing around for about 4 minutes and has just
done that for another minute about 30mins later. The other 2 cats are
scared again.
  
  I'm pretty sure this will have to be a euthansia case today - I
am going to push on the flea treatment adverse effects though - but I
can say that he is now suffering and I can't let him suffer if they
can't do anything.
  
  These decisions hurt so bad but my baby boy without doubt is in
the full blown faids stage - his weight is plummeting fast even though
he has eaten. I just hope if the vet says theE word and I go ahead
that it is right for him. Whilst I think the flea treatment may well
have exacerbated this I'm sure the FIV is a lot to blame too. I'll let
you know the outcome.
  
  Michelle L

Re: Problem - I think?


I personally wouldn't use Neosporin.  Guess everybody has their favorites.

I tend to use an herbal powder, Golden Seal, for sores and minor skin 
breaks.  I buy it at the health food store in capsules, and break open the 
capsules.


I also use Aloe Vera  based cream sometimes, and I use homeopathic arnica 
cream.  If there's much bleeding, I use arnica orally.  For that particular 
thing with your baby, I'd probably get some arnica cream at the health food 
store.


I kind of do a mixture of allopathic and homeopathic and herbal remedies.

Gloria


At 10:44 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky and 
very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned, I was 
just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?

Cherie



Hi Cherie -

When my sweet Mittens started regurgitating his food, he also had swollen 
lymph nodes. The vet diagnosed lymphoma. There were several traditional 
chemo options. I chose to get Vincristine shots for him. It did make the 
lymph nodes go down, he could eat without throwing up, and he seemed to 
feel better.


After a few shots, his skin became very sensitive - I assumed it was the 
Vincristine. he had a few sores, and the skin would break easily. One time 
I came home and found blood on the bathroom floor. he must have been 
playing with another cat, or perhaps fallen.


I can't remember what I did for it, but was suspicious of the vincristine. 
Think I put aloe vera on it, or gave supplements orally. I later learned 
about the Wisconsin protocol, where the drugs are alternated.


Just my experience - best of luck,

Gloria



Have a purrfect day
Cherie

Re: Bramble




Michelle, I'm so sorry to hear Bramble did not 
get better overnight. By now, you are probably still at the vet's or back from 
there. Please let us know how it went, and if Bramble is gone. My heart goes out 
to you on this.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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animal communication stories









Hi, everyone. I sent some stories yesterday, did they make
it to the list?



Kat



Kathleen A. Berard,Animal Communicator, Vibrational Essences
Practitioner and Holistic Care Consultant

KATALYST FOR ANIMAL
WHOLENESS, INC. www.katberard.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]



EMAIL ME TO RECEIVE A
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NEWSLETTER!



If you don't
know what your passion is, realize that one reason for your existence on Earth
is to find it. Oprah

Re: Do NOT buy Hartz products




I want a copy please: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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Re: animal communication stories





Yes they did Kat, thank you for sharing them. So much wisdom and truth
in the messages. The story of Chelsea and her quilt brought tears to
my eyes. Now that's validation!
Nina

Kathleen A. Berard wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Hi, everyone. I sent some
stories yesterday, did they make
it to the list?
  
  Kat
  
  Kathleen
A. Berard,Animal
Communicator, Vibrational Essences
Practitioner and Holistic Care Consultant
  KATALYST
FOR ANIMAL
WHOLENESS, INC. www.katberard.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  EMAIL ME
TO RECEIVE A
COMPLIMENTARY SUBSCRIPTION TO THE MONTHLY KATS JOURNAL
NEWSLETTER!
  
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don't
know what your passion is, realize that one reason for your existence
on Earth
is to find it." Oprah

Re: Healing-Health Issues (bach flower essences, alt therapies)




Yeah, she's almost looking normal now, actually. 
I took some pictures, but I need to get the roll developed, and get a picture CD 
to get them online. She gets up and down so much better now, and she likes to 
rub between your legs (the crate to confine her has not arrived yet, so she 
still gets up and does cat things when you go into the bathroom). I actually saw 
her scratching her ear with her back foot yesterday, something she could not 
even attempt before (I, of course, stopped her and scratched it for 
her).

I remember you telling me about the Lyprinol, but 
right now she's on a prescription anti-inflammatory and pain med, so I think 
I'll just stick to that for now. I'm looking more for things that actually help 
with the healing, more so than just reducing the pain and inflammation at this 
point (because we've already got that issue covered).
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~Jenn,I'm 
so very glad to hear bones is more comfortable and doing well. Give 
her a nuzzle for me. Is she gaining any weight?Something that 
I'm going to look into is Lyprinol. Anyone heard of it? I don't 
know very much about it yet. It's a human anti-inflammatory supplement 
that's suppose to be good for asthma and arthritis. If it checks out 
as something I think will be safe and effective, I'll try it for Zevon, (my 
German Shepherd with Degenerative Myelopathy) and Gypsy, (my IBD 
kitty). Here's the link http://www.lyprinol.com/home.htmA 
couple of women on my IBD list are using it and have had good results so 
far. If you check it out let me know what you 
think.Nina
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Re: Healing-Health Issues (bach flower essences, alt therapies)




Thanks! Yeah, so far it seems to be a great drug, 
with no side effects that I can see. Really has made her so much more 
comfortable!
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~ 
Metacam is used for some of the kitties that have advanced cancer. For 
the most part I don't recall anyone having problems with 
it.
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Re: Healing-Health Issues (bach flower essences, alt therapies)


Jenn,
Maybe she won't have to be confined after all, at least not when you're 
home with her.  She seems to have gotten the message that she needs to 
keep still in order to heal.  I'd let her know that if she gets too 
rambunctious, she'll have to go in the crate, and that she has to be in 
there for her own good when you're away.  Even if she doesn't get the 
message telepathically, she'll soon come to understand that when she 
gets too active she goes in the crate, either way, I'm betting that will 
work for her.  Can you tell I hate having to crate animals?

Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yeah, she's almost looking normal now, actually. I took some pictures, 
but I need to get the roll developed, and get a picture CD to get them 
online. She gets up and down so much better now, and she likes to rub 
between your legs (the crate to confine her has not arrived yet, so 
she still gets up and does cat things when you go into the bathroom). 
I actually saw her scratching her ear with her back foot yesterday, 
something she could not even attempt before (I, of course, stopped her 
and scratched it for her).
 
I remember you telling me about the Lyprinol, but right now she's on a 
prescription anti-inflammatory and pain med, so I think I'll just 
stick to that for now. I'm looking more for things that actually help 
with the healing, more so than just reducing the pain and inflammation 
at this point (because we've already got that issue covered).


Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
 
~~~

Jenn,
I'm so very glad to hear bones is more comfortable and doing well.  Give
her a nuzzle for me.  Is she gaining any weight?

Something that I'm going to look into is Lyprinol.  Anyone heard of it? 
I don't know very much about it yet.  It's a human anti-inflammatory

supplement that's suppose to be good for asthma and arthritis.  If it
checks out as something I think will be safe and effective, I'll try it
for Zevon, (my German Shepherd with Degenerative Myelopathy) and Gypsy,
(my IBD kitty).  Here's the link http://www.lyprinol.com/home.htm

A couple of women on my IBD list are using it and have had good results
so far.  If you check it out let me know what you think.
Nina



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Re: Update on Bronx Nuns

2005-06-08 Thread TenHouseCats

in the note i wrote to the nuns yesterday, i know that i suggested
they contact one of the feral groups to help.

i was incredibly saddened by some of the responses my posting the
story on the catholic questions forum, too. tho having survived 13
years of catholic schools, i'm not sure WHY i was surprised.

sigh.

-- 
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

Re: Update on Bronx Nuns

Right - one of the responses on their guestbook said it was just catholic 
bashing.  She doesn't own up to the nuns and fathers being human beings, 
some of whom can be very cruel...


Sigh again.

Gloria

At 11:55 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote:

in the note i wrote to the nuns yesterday, i know that i suggested
they contact one of the feral groups to help.

i was incredibly saddened by some of the responses my posting the
story on the catholic questions forum, too. tho having survived 13
years of catholic schools, i'm not sure WHY i was surprised.

sigh.

--
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

Re: Problem - I think?

Small sores, and yes I have called my vet she says use Neosporin, and rub it in well.
Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cherie,Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's 100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?NinaCherie A Gabbert wrote: Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky  and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned,  I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin? CherieHave a purrfect day
Cherie

Re: Update on Bronx Nuns

2005-06-08 Thread Susan Loesch

Gee, is molesting altar boys also just Catholic bashing? Unfortunately anyone, whatever religion, can have a mean streak - isn't negated by being in a religious order. Would that it were."Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right - one of the responses on their "guestbook" said it was just catholic bashing. She doesn't own up to the nuns and fathers being human beings, some of whom can be very cruel...Sigh again.GloriaAt 11:55 AM 6/8/2005, you wrote:in the note i wrote to the nuns yesterday, i know that i suggestedthey contact one of the feral groups to help.i was incredibly saddened by some of the responses my posting thestory on the catholic questions forum, too. tho having survived 13years of catholic schools, i'm not sure WHY i was surprised.sigh.--MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

Re: Update on Bronx Nuns

Nuns areJUST people. You have those that absolutely adore animals, like Sister Francis here in Havre de Grace that feeds all the stray animals in town, out of her own pocket...not easy for someone who has taken a vow of poverty, and Sister Freda who had her own cocker spaniel that went with her EVERYWHERE (she told God she'd ONLY answer His calling to her to serve IF she could always have her animals with her.) And you have those who don't like kids, and joined the church to escape society's view that they should be mothers, only to have the church put them in charge of children schools. That's when you get the atilla-the-nuns,..the yard-stick striking, rosary whipping, screaming banshee women. Not to mention the fact that they are part of an institution that only recognizes the worth of ONE woman-Mary, the mother of Christ. Its not an easy life...NOT that that is an excuse.

One of my favorite people was Sister Dorthy...a real attilla-the-nun (without the hitting :-))a small, tank, of a woman, all of 5'2"...with the wrath of God in her little finger, even the priest were afraid of her!but she was also so understanding, compasionate...an absolute tool of the All Mightyand my life is better for having known her.

As for THESE Bronx nuns...SOMEONE at that convent has been feeding these ferals for eight yearsmost likely this mother superior is new and if forcing her will on the others. Imagine how horrifing that must be for the one or two nuns who also care about these cats.

Pray for them. They need it as much as the cats.

T[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

NO! You're not alone. What horrid wretched creatures these nuns must be. I always thought the movies and TV showsthat showed the nuns as the wicked mean women who hit the kids and treated them like dirt in the orphanages and catholic schools was over-dramatized, but now I know it's the truth! Well, you know what they say about karma
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html

~~~
Big hugs to Pets Alive for offering to take these kitties. And these nuns have not decided whether to allow the volunteers to save the kitties? Boy, they really have a mean streak! If they want the cats out of there they should be overjoyed at the offer. I'm not the only one angry about this, am I.

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Re: Problem - I think?-HOLD THE TEA TREE!!

2005-06-08 Thread Kat

Hi All,
The part of the Aloe that is toxic is the Latex layer beneath the skin.
This is NOT the part used for commercial Aloe preparations/gels.  So
as long as you don't cut open an Aloe leaf and rub it on your cat, it
is okay to use the gel.  As always, check the labels and try not to use
a formula loaded with preservatives.

Tea Tree Oil - however - is a NO NO for Cats!!
Cats cannot metabolize the oils like dogs and humans can, and it ends up
harming the liver.  Even Cat Fancy has run articles warning against using
most essential oils on Cats.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

Re: Update on Bronx Nuns

2005-06-08 Thread Susan Loesch

Never thought about the ones who fed and still care for the cats - you are right - they need our prayers. This must be killing them.tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pray for them. They need it as much as the cats.

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Re: Problem - I think?-HOLD THE TEA TREE!!

GOOD TO KNOW, Thanks for correction  the info Kat! That's why I always write to check with the vet first!
TKat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,The part of the Aloe that is toxic is the Latex layer beneath the skin.This is NOT the part used for commercial Aloe preparations/gels. Soas long as you don't cut open an Aloe leaf and rub it on your cat, itis okay to use the gel. As always, check the labels and try not to usea formula loaded with preservatives.Tea Tree Oil - however - is a NO NO for Cats!!Cats cannot metabolize the oils like dogs and humans can, and it ends upharming the liver. Even Cat Fancy has run articles warning against usingmost essential oils on Cats.Kat (Mew Jersey)
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Oh Tamara! Don't be sorry, I'm glad to know there may be a problem.
Where did you hear Aloe is deadly to cats!? I could have sworn it was
my holistic vet that told me to use aloe! Oh man, that's scary! If
that's the case, I need to give her a call and let her know to stop
telling people to use it. I'm very fortunate, because I know for a
fact that Gypsy did ingest some.
Nina

tamara stickler wrote:

  Aloe, ingested isdeadly to cats! -at least the
aloeplant is and if the cat is festidious about getting it off
Prob. not a good idea, sorry Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for
a day or so after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and
lick paw!
  
  Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily,is very healing
for the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.
  
  You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet
for an over the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if
licked off.
  
  Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Cherie,
Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about 
infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's 
100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she 
licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it 
helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?
Nina

Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

 Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very
finicky 
 and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small
boned, 
 I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
 Cherie



  
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Re: Update on Bronx Nuns

2005-06-08 Thread TenHouseCats

tamara, you are right--i have met some incredibly wonderful nuns
through the years, and the ones joining up now tend to be
awesome--however, as you implied, convents have long suffered from
definite powerlessness in their particular world, and as too often
happens EVERYWHERE, those who are powerless tend to use what little
authority they have on those with even less..


-- 
MaryChristine

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Re: Problem - I think?-HOLD THE ALOE!!!

I have it listed on a list of poisons for cats at home...Did you see Kat's post? She said its the membrane and not the gel...that would explain both our info.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh Tamara! Don't be sorry, I'm glad to know there may be a problem. Where did you hear Aloe is deadly to cats!? I could have sworn it was my holistic vet that told me to use aloe! Oh man, that's scary! If that's the case, I need to give her a call and let her know to stop telling people to use it. I'm very fortunate, because I know for a fact that Gypsy did ingest some.Ninatamara stickler wrote:

Aloe, ingested isdeadly to cats! -at least the aloeplant is and if the cat is festidious about getting it off Prob. not a good idea, sorry Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!

Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily,is very healing for the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.

You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an over the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if licked off.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cherie,Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's 100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?NinaCherie A Gabbert wrote: Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned, I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin? Cherie
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Re: Problem - I think?-HOLD THE TEA TREE!!

Thanks for the clarification, Kat.  And Tamara, thanks for the heads up 
about potential dangers.  I have an aloe plant in the back yard that 
I've used medicinally for myself, (although it hadn't occurred to me to 
use it like that on my animals, thank goodness!).

Nina

Kat wrote:


Hi All,
The part of the Aloe that is toxic is the Latex layer beneath the skin.
This is NOT the part used for commercial Aloe preparations/gels.  So
as long as you don't cut open an Aloe leaf and rub it on your cat, it
is okay to use the gel.  As always, check the labels and try not to use
a formula loaded with preservatives.

Tea Tree Oil - however - is a NO NO for Cats!!
Cats cannot metabolize the oils like dogs and humans can, and it ends up
harming the liver.  Even Cat Fancy has run articles warning against using
most essential oils on Cats.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

Re: Healing-Health Issues (bach flower essences, alt therapies)




Ahh, well, she's already learned that it's either 
the shut bathroom, or the travel kennel. She'll come up to the bathroom door and 
meow, and when you go in the room, she'll meow once at the door, then walk over 
to the travel kennel, and get right inside, and wait for you to shut her in, so 
she can come out into the rest of the house and be near us or see out the 
window. She's very smart.

I'm still going to cage her for a month or more 
as soon as the cage gets here. At least it's a open air cage, so she can see out 
all directions, and I can move her from one room to the next without having to 
make her get in and out of the smaller kennel.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~Jenn,Maybe 
she won't have to be confined after all, at least not when you're home with 
her. She seems to have gotten the message that she needs to keep still 
in order to heal. I'd let her know that if she gets too rambunctious, 
she'll have to go in the crate, and that she has to be in there for her own 
good when you're away. Even if she doesn't get the message 
telepathically, she'll soon come to understand that when she gets too active 
she goes in the crate, either way, I'm betting that will work for her. 
Can you tell I hate having to crate 
animals?Nina
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Re: Update on Bronx Nuns





All excellent points. Thank you for bringing up the plight of whomever
has been caring for and loving these ferals. They must be tormented
about this. Thanks T.
Nina

tamara stickler wrote:

  Nuns areJUST people. You have those that absolutely
adore animals, like Sister Francis here in Havre de Grace that feeds
all the stray animals in town, out of her own pocket...not easy for
someone who has taken a vow of poverty, and Sister Freda who had her
own cocker spaniel that went with her EVERYWHERE (she told God she'd
ONLY answer His calling to her to serve IF she could always have her
animals with her.) And you have those who don't like kids, and joined
the church to escape society's view that they should be mothers, only
to have the church put them in charge of children  schools.
That's when you get the atilla-the-nuns,..the yard-stick striking,
rosary whipping, screaming banshee women. Not to mention the fact that
they are part of an institution that only recognizes the worth of ONE
woman-Mary, the mother of Christ. Its not an easy life...NOT that that
is an excuse.
  
  One of my favorite people was Sister Dorthy...a real
attilla-the-nun (without the hitting :-))a small, tank, of a woman,
all of 5'2"...with the wrath of God in her little finger, even the
priest were afraid of her!but she was also so understanding,
compasionate...an absolute tool of the All Mightyand my life is
better for having known her.
  
  As for THESE Bronx nuns...SOMEONE at that convent has been
feeding these ferals for eight yearsmost likely this mother
superior is new and if forcing her will on the others. Imagine how
horrifing that must be for the one or two nuns who also care about
these cats.
  
  Pray for them. They need it as much as the cats.
  
  T
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  


NO! You're not alone. What horrid
wretched creatures these nuns must be. I always thought the movies and
TV showsthat showed the nuns as the wicked mean women who hit the kids
and treated them like dirt in the orphanages and catholic schools was
over-dramatized, but now I know it's the truth! Well, you know what
they say about karma


Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html


~~~
Big hugs to Pets Alive for
offering to take these kitties. And these nuns have not decided
whether to allow the volunteers to save the kitties? Boy, they really
have a mean streak! If they want the cats out of there they should be
overjoyed at the offer. I'm not the only one angry about this, am I. 

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I suspect that the 
treatment of the cats was "leaked" by one of the 
nuns.

Re: Bronx Nuns


The Energies-That-Be work in mysterious ways!

Doljan, Joan wrote:


I suspect that the treatment of the cats was leaked by one of the nuns.

Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

Good point, a few years back I researched that.  But it turned out that 
only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if ingested in 
large quantities.  A part of it is a strong purgative.  People can be 
sensitive too.  And related to skin reactions, in older plants, there's an 
inner part that  the skin can  *sometimes* be sensitive to.


However,  the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is 
processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant, 
generally  - some are gel and some are juice, and some are made from 
those, and some have additives.  Some have sodium benzoate added, for 
example, which is also a no-no for cats.But they don't consist of the 
entire plant.  Consequently, it's not really true that anything with a 
piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats.  It does deserve some thought and 
questioning.


As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do give 
it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C, in my 
situation.  I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't remember the 
kind - as I use the  homeopathic arnica more often.  And of course, I don't 
feed cats the raw plant (or me either),  much less large quantities, not 
that the little buggers would eat it, and I don't use the raw plant 
topically.  There are several other brands besides Georges that are 
perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got into a habit of buying Georges.


Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but that's 
my recollection.


Best of luck -

Gloria




At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if the 
cat is festidious about getting it off  Prob. not a good idea, sorry 
Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so after treatment to 
make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!


Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for the 
skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.


You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an over 
the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if licked off.


Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cherie,
Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about
infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's
100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she
licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it
helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?
Nina

Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

 Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky
 and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned,
 I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
 Cherie



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Re: wanted: FELV kitty near Oklahoma City

2005-06-08 Thread Mia Nicer

Hi Everyone,

I just read in an email about somone who wants a FELV kitty. I currently work in the ACC in NY and I urge you or whoever might want a FELV or FIV cat/kitten to please go the the nearest shelter and get one or more.

There are so many cats and kittens that are positive in our city's shelters who need lots of love too. Most rescues only take negative cats/kittens and alot get put to sleep and don't even see the adoption floor. Please if you or anyone is interested in a cat...run to the shelter. We would love to find homes for them!! It's kitten season!!!

***also there are tons of rescue groups that rescue positive and what some people might consider unadoptable cats (I think it just makes them that more special). you can find them by doing a search online. Please feel free to contact me if you need help with any of this.

Thanks,
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Re: Bronx Nuns


Absolutely... I agree..

At 12:57 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:

The Energies-That-Be work in mysterious ways!

Doljan, Joan wrote:


I suspect that the treatment of the cats was leaked by one of the nuns.

Re: Fwd: Do NOT buy Hartz products

2005-06-08 Thread Mia Nicer

Please send me the handout you made about the Hartz products. I work in the city shelter and with other rescue groups. I would love to help you, just let me know how.

Mia
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Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

Neosporin or Tree Tee Oil, sound good to me so far, but thanks for all the input you guys I knew I could count on you
Cherie"Gloria B. Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good point, a few years back I researched that. But it turned out that only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if ingested in large quantities. A part of it is a strong purgative. People can be sensitive too. And related to skin reactions, in older plants, there's an inner part that the skin can *sometimes* be sensitive to.However, the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant, generally - some are "gel" and some are "juice", and some are made from those, and some have additives. Some have sodium benzoate added, for example, which is also a no-no for cats. But they don't consist of the entire plant. Consequently, it's not really true that anything with a piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats. It does deserve some thought and
questioning.As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do give it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C, in my situation. I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't remember the kind - as I use the homeopathic arnica more often. And of course, I don't feed cats the raw plant (or me either), much less large quantities, not that the little buggers would eat it, and I don't use the raw plant topically. There are several other brands besides Georges that are perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got into a habit of buying Georges.Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but that's my recollection.Best of luck -GloriaAt 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if the cat is festidious about getting it off Prob. not a good idea, sorry Nina,
unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an over the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if licked off.Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Cherie,Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried aboutinfection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if shelicks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and ithelped. Have you called your vet about this yet?NinaCherie A Gabbert wrote: Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very
finicky and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned, I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin? Cherie__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection aroundhttp://mail.yahoo.comHave a purrfect day
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RE: Websites to contact local affiliates - Bronx Nuns









Sorrymy typing always does me in!





Chris

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From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joan Doljan
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
10:44 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Websites to contact
local affiliates - Bronx Nuns





212-371-1000

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Just called the Monastery
 was sent to the vicars office 212-372-1000 ext. 2576.
The person handling this told me that Sister Helen I talking to
neighborhood cats org.. would not tell me why they decided to change their
policy I pointed out that while Sister H. talked, these cats who have
been fed for 8 years are slowing starving to death or dying of thirst.
Suggested that because of publicity, the archdiose may find itself with news
crew at the front door filming carcasses! I dont really think I
made a dent but perhaps if anyone in this can also call, it cant
hurt.





Chris

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From:
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10:01 AM
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local affiliates - Bronx Nuns





These
are the websites of the NYC local affiliates. If you live in the area,
you can email them (through these sites) and contact their assignment desks.











Joan




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Hartz

Title: Message

Message:
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Jun 2005 19:11:15 - From: "Maureen Koplow" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:
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cats in 2006June 3, 2005, 8:05 PM EDTSECAUCUS, N.J. --
Pet care products company Hartz Mountain Corp. said Friday it would
discontinue two over-the-counter topical flea and tick products for
cats next spring, a move prompted by concerns over the number of
adverse reactions suffered by the pets. The Hartz Advanced Care 4
in 1 Flea and Tick Drops Plus for Cats and the Hartz Advanced Care 3
in 1 Flea and Tick Drops for Cats will still be sold in retail outlets
through March 31, 2006, when the company will launch a new product for
cats. No other Hartz Mountain flea and tick products are affected
by the voluntary cancellation, which came about after discussions with
the Environmental Protection Agency. The Secaucus-based firm also said it
had signed an agreement with the agency to cancel the product
registrations for the advanced care topical cat products.
Signs of individual animal sensitivity have included skin
irritation, hair loss at the application site, salivation and
tremors. If signs of sensitivity occur, pet owners should bathe
their cat with mild soap, rinse with large amounts of water and consult
a veterinarian immediately. Consumers with questions can call the
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FW: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

Just got this reply from an e-mail I sent yesterday--I hope that after 8
days (including some 90 degree days), the little guys are all OK!

Chris
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-Original Message-
From: Neighborhood Cats [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:02 AM
To: Chris
Subject: Re: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

Yes.  This morning the nuns and Archdiocese agreed to allow volunteers to
trap
and remove the cats to Pets Alive, a nearby sanctuary.

Bryan Kortis
Neighborhood Cats

Quoting Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 There is a post going around on the internet about the 7 cats at this
 monastery---that after 8 years of being managed, the mother superior has
 ordered that they be removed and prevented anyone from feeding them for
the
 last 5 days-is this true

 Chris

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RE: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

Thank you.

-Original Message-
From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:26 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: FW: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

Just got this reply from an e-mail I sent yesterday--I hope that after 8
days (including some 90 degree days), the little guys are all OK!

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Neighborhood Cats [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:02 AM
To: Chris
Subject: Re: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

Yes.  This morning the nuns and Archdiocese agreed to allow volunteers to
trap and remove the cats to Pets Alive, a nearby sanctuary.

Bryan Kortis
Neighborhood Cats

Quoting Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 There is a post going around on the internet about the 7 cats at this 
 monastery---that after 8 years of being managed, the mother superior 
 has ordered that they be removed and prevented anyone from feeding 
 them for
the
 last 5 days-is this true

 Chris

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RE: Websites to contact local affiliates - Bronx Nuns

Thanks for the numberChris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sorrymy typing always does me in!

Chris
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-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joan DoljanSent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:44 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Websites to contact local affiliates - Bronx Nuns

212-371-1000Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just called the Monastery was sent to the vicars office 212-372-1000 ext. 2576. The person handling this told me that Sister Helen I talking to neighborhood cats org.. would not tell me why they decided to change their policy I pointed out that while Sister H. talked, these cats who have been fed for 8 years are slowing starving to death or dying of thirst. Suggested that because of publicity, the archdiose may find itself with news crew at the front door filming carcasses! I dont really think I made a dent but perhaps if anyone in this can also call, it cant hurt.

Chris
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-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doljan, JoanSent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:01 AMTo: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'Subject: FW:Websites to contact local affiliates - Bronx Nuns

These are the websites of the NYC local affiliates. If you live in the area, you can email them (through these sites) and contact their assignment desks.

Joan
On 6/8/05 9:52 AM, "Doljan, Joan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
www.cbs2ny.com http://www.cbs2ny.com www.abclocal.go.com http://www.abclocal.go.com www.wnbc.com http://www.wnbc.com
Have a purrfect day
Cherie

Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

The brand of aloe gel I got for Gypsy is Lily of the Desert.  No 
artificial colorings, no fragrance, no animal dirivatives, non animal 
tested.  Ingredients 99.5% certified organic aloe vera gel, carbomer 
940, (whatever the heck that is), Vita A,C, and E.  I found it at Whole 
Foods Market.
Nina 


Gloria B. Lane wrote:

Good point, a few years back I researched that.  But it turned out 
that only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if 
ingested in large quantities.  A part of it is a strong purgative.  
People can be sensitive too.  And related to skin reactions, in older 
plants, there's an inner part that  the skin can  *sometimes* be 
sensitive to.


However,  the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is 
processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant, 
generally  - some are gel and some are juice, and some are made 
from those, and some have additives.  Some have sodium benzoate added, 
for example, which is also a no-no for cats.But they don't consist 
of the entire plant.  Consequently, it's not really true that anything 
with a piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats.  It does deserve some 
thought and questioning.


As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do 
give it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C, 
in my situation.  I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't 
remember the kind - as I use the  homeopathic arnica more often.  And 
of course, I don't feed cats the raw plant (or me either),  much less 
large quantities, not that the little buggers would eat it, and I 
don't use the raw plant topically.  There are several other brands 
besides Georges that are perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got 
into a habit of buying Georges.


Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but 
that's my recollection.


Best of luck -

Gloria




At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:

Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if 
the cat is festidious about getting it off  Prob. not a good 
idea, sorry Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so 
after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!


Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for 
the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.


You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an 
over the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if 
licked off.


Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cherie,
Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about
infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's
100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she
licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it
helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?
Nina

Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

 Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky
 and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned,
 I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
 Cherie



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Re: FW: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

It still is wrong to move them, what harm could they possibly be doing, except preventing mice and vermin to infest.Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just got this reply from an e-mail I sent yesterday--I hope that after 8days (including some 90 degree days), the little guys are all OK!Chris[EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original Message-From: Neighborhood Cats [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:02 AMTo: ChrisSubject: Re: Cats at Corpus Christi MonasteryYes. This morning the nuns and Archdiocese agreed to allow volunteers totrapand remove the cats to Pets Alive, a nearby sanctuary.Bryan KortisNeighborhood CatsQuoting Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: There is a post going around on the internet about the 7 cats at this monastery---that after 8 years of being managed, the mother superior has ordered that they be removed and prevented anyone from feeding them forthe last 5 days-is this
 true Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]Have a purrfect day
Cherie

Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

Thank you again...you guys are the best ;-))Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The brand of aloe gel I got for Gypsy is "Lily of the Desert". No artificial colorings, no fragrance, no animal dirivatives, non animal tested. Ingredients 99.5% certified organic aloe vera gel, carbomer 940, (whatever the heck that is), Vita A,C, and E. I found it at Whole Foods Market.Nina Gloria B. Lane wrote: Good point, a few years back I researched that. But it turned out that only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if ingested in large quantities. A part of it is a strong purgative. People can be sensitive too. And related to skin reactions, in older plants, there's an inner part that the skin can *sometimes* be sensitive to. However, the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the
entire plant, generally - some are "gel" and some are "juice", and some are made from those, and some have additives. Some have sodium benzoate added, for example, which is also a no-no for cats. But they don't consist of the entire plant. Consequently, it's not really true that anything with a piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats. It does deserve some thought and questioning. As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do give it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C, in my situation. I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't remember the kind - as I use the homeopathic arnica more often. And of course, I don't feed cats the raw plant (or me either), much less large quantities, not that the little buggers would eat it, and I don't use the raw plant topically. There are several other brands
besides Georges that are perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got into a habit of buying Georges. Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but that's my recollection. Best of luck - Gloria At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote: Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if the cat is festidious about getting it off Prob. not a good idea, sorry Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw! Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first. You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an over the counter topical you can apply that won't be
too bad if licked off. Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Cherie, Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's 100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it helped. Have you called your vet about this yet? Nina Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned, I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin? Cherie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of
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Bramble

2005-06-08 Thread Lomaxturtle




Thankyou for you support 

Well I stood in the vets sobbing my heart out - she considered the flea 
treatment and said she thinks it is highly unlikely but she couldn't rule it 
out. She had only ever seen seizures once from stronghold in a dog whose owner 
administered it orally accidently - how silly can people be. And she said that 
she would expect continuous seizure if it was the flea treatment. I said I 
wasn't convinced and that more and more people are experiencing adverse 
reactions but are not reporting them or the companies are not making them 
known.

I stood there and whilst I had the doubt in my mind that the flea treatment 
had exacerbated these symptoms as opposed to it being purely FIV related I was 
fighting for him. The vet said if he was her cat she would euthanase as he had 
suffered enough but she also said I have tried so hard along with Bramble and 
could see I wanted him to pull through. She was surprised that he had had 48hrs 
been seizures and we agreed that if he has another seizure within 24 hrs then I 
will have him euthanased - but I will watch him for another 24hrs to see what 
happens. 

So fingers crossed - he is depressed at the moment but it is only a few 
hours since his last seizure.

Michelle L

RE: FW: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery









Of course, its wrong but better than dying
of thirst or starving to death. As for who took care of them, it
sounded to me (  I may be wrong), that neighborhood cats maintains a
number of feral cat colonies all over the city  that this was one of
them. Why the sudden change, well, I doubt anyone will ever own up to
making this decision but whoever it was, I hope that their peaceful, holy
existence is rocked to the core!!





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cherie A Gabbert
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
2:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: FW: Cats at Corpus
Christi Monastery





It still is wrong to move them, what harm could they
possibly be doing, except preventing mice and vermin to infest.

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Just
got this reply from an e-mail I sent yesterday--I hope that after 8
days (including some 90 degree days), the little guys are all OK!

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Neighborhood Cats [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:02 AM
To: Chris
Subject: Re: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

Yes. This morning the nuns and Archdiocese agreed to allow volunteers to
trap
and remove the cats to Pets Alive, a nearby sanctuary.

Bryan Kortis
Neighborhood Cats

Quoting Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

 There is a post going around on the internet about the 7 cats at this
 monastery---that after 8 years of being managed, the mother superior has
 ordered that they be removed and prevented anyone from feeding them for
the
 last 5 days-is this true



 Chris

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


















Have
a purrfect day





Cherie

RE: Bramble

Title: Message



All paws and fingers crossed.

  
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:34 
  PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: 
  Bramble
  Thankyou for you support 
  
  Well I stood in the vets sobbing my heart out - she considered the flea 
  treatment and said she thinks it is highly unlikely but she couldn't rule it 
  out. She had only ever seen seizures once from stronghold in a dog whose owner 
  administered it orally accidently - how silly can people be. And she said that 
  she would expect continuous seizure if it was the flea treatment. I said I 
  wasn't convinced and that more and more people are experiencing adverse 
  reactions but are not reporting them or the companies are not making them 
  known.
  
  I stood there and whilst I had the doubt in my mind that the flea 
  treatment had exacerbated these symptoms as opposed to it being purely FIV 
  related I was fighting for him. The vet said if he was her cat she would 
  euthanase as he had suffered enough but she also said I have tried so hard 
  along with Bramble and could see I wanted him to pull through. She was 
  surprised that he had had 48hrs been seizures and we agreed that if he has 
  another seizure within 24 hrs then I will have him euthanased - but I will 
  watch him for another 24hrs to see what happens. 
  
  So fingers crossed - he is depressed at the moment but it is only a few 
  hours since his last seizure.
  
  Michelle L

RE: FW: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

Title: Message



Me 
too!

  
  -Original Message-From: Chris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:35 
  PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: FW: Cats 
  at Corpus Christi Monastery
  
  Of course, its wrong 
  but better than dying of thirst or starving to death. As for who 
  took care of them, it sounded to me (  I may be wrong), that neighborhood 
  cats maintains a number of feral cat colonies all over the city  that 
  this was one of them. Why the sudden change, well, I doubt anyone will 
  ever own up to making this decision but whoever it was, I hope that their 
  peaceful, holy existence is rocked to the 
  core!!
  
  
  Chris
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cherie A GabbertSent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:29 
  PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: FW: Cats at Corpus Christi 
  Monastery
  
  
  It still is wrong to move them, what harm 
  could they possibly be doing, except preventing mice and vermin to 
  infest.Chris 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Just got this 
  reply from an e-mail I sent yesterday--I hope that after 8days (including 
  some 90 degree days), the little guys are all 
  OK!Chris[EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original 
  Message-From: Neighborhood Cats [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:02 AMTo: ChrisSubject: Re: Cats 
  at Corpus Christi MonasteryYes. This morning the nuns and Archdiocese 
  agreed to allow volunteers totrapand remove the cats to Pets Alive, a 
  nearby sanctuary.Bryan KortisNeighborhood CatsQuoting 
  Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: There is a post going around on the 
  internet about the 7 cats at this monastery---that after 8 years of 
  being managed, the mother superior has ordered that they be removed 
  and prevented anyone from feeding them forthe last 5 days-is this 
  true Chris 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  Have a purrfect 
  day
  
  Cherie

RE: Bramble










Fingers  toes
crossed!





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
2:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Bramble





Thankyou
for you support 











Well I
stood in the vets sobbing my heart out - she considered the flea treatment and
said she thinks it is highly unlikely but she couldn't rule it out. She had
only ever seen seizures once from stronghold in a dog whose owner administered
it orally accidently - how silly can people be. And she said that she would
expect continuous seizure if it was the flea treatment. I said I wasn't
convinced and that more and more people are experiencing adverse reactions but
are not reporting them or the companies are not making them known.











I stood
there and whilst I had the doubt in my mind that the flea treatment had
exacerbated these symptoms as opposed to it being purely FIV related I was fighting
for him. The vet said if he was her cat she would euthanase as he had suffered
enough but she also said I have tried so hard along with Bramble and could see
I wanted him to pull through. She was surprised that he had had 48hrs been
seizures and we agreed that if he has another seizure within 24 hrs then I will
have him euthanased - but I will watch him for another 24hrs to see what
happens. 











So
fingers crossed - he is depressed at the moment but it is only a few hours
since his last seizure.











Michelle
L

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Re: Bramble

I am pulling for you guys, let us know every so often what is happeninggood luck
Cherie[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thankyou for you support 

Well I stood in the vets sobbing my heart out - she considered the flea treatment and said she thinks it is highly unlikely but she couldn't rule it out. She had only ever seen seizures once from stronghold in a dog whose owner administered it orally accidently - how silly can people be. And she said that she would expect continuous seizure if it was the flea treatment. I said I wasn't convinced and that more and more people are experiencing adverse reactions but are not reporting them or the companies are not making them known.

I stood there and whilst I had the doubt in my mind that the flea treatment had exacerbated these symptoms as opposed to it being purely FIV related I was fighting for him. The vet said if he was her cat she would euthanase as he had suffered enough but she also said I have tried so hard along with Bramble and could see I wanted him to pull through. She was surprised that he had had 48hrs been seizures and we agreed that if he has another seizure within 24 hrs then I will have him euthanased - but I will watch him for another 24hrs to see what happens. 

So fingers crossed - he is depressed at the moment but it is only a few hours since his last seizure.

Michelle LHave a purrfect day
Cherie

RE: FW: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

I agree of course, I just am still shocked and appauld that this happened and at a church no less.Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Of course, its wrong but better than dying of thirst or starving to death. As for who took care of them, it sounded to me (  I may be wrong), that neighborhood cats maintains a number of feral cat colonies all over the city  that this was one of them. Why the sudden change, well, I doubt anyone will ever own up to making this decision but whoever it was, I hope that their peaceful, holy existence is rocked to the core!!


Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cherie A GabbertSent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:29 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: FW: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery


It still is wrong to move them, what harm could they possibly be doing, except preventing mice and vermin to infest.Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Just got this reply from an e-mail I sent yesterday--I hope that after 8days (including some 90 degree days), the little guys are all OK!Chris[EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original Message-From: Neighborhood Cats [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:02 AMTo: ChrisSubject: Re: Cats at Corpus Christi MonasteryYes. This morning the nuns and Archdiocese agreed to allow volunteers totrapand remove the cats to Pets Alive, a nearby sanctuary.Bryan KortisNeighborhood CatsQuoting Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: There is a post going around on the internet about the 7 cats at this monastery---that after 8 years of being managed, the mother superior has ordered that they be removed and prevented anyone from
 feeding them forthe last 5 days-is this true Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Have a purrfect day

Cherie

Have a purrfect day
Cherie

RE: Bramble










Michelle, do you have any
access to Bach flower remedies? If so, get Oak, Scleranthus and Rescue Remedy.
Pick up a 1oz dropper bottle from the vets or the health food store (if
they carry them). Put 1 oz filtered water with 2 drops each of Oak and Scleranthus,
and 4 drops of Rescue Remedy. Shake well. Then give him 4 drops from the
treatment bottle every hour for as long as youre up, and give him extra
doses every 5 minutes if need be if you sense a seizure coming on, during the
seizure and afterwards for 15-20 minutes. You can drip the drops in his mouth (onto
the gum is fine or straight into the mouth) or rub them onto the outside of his
ear where the skin is thin because it will absorb from there.



Kat





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Practitioner and Holistic Care Consultant

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-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
1:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Bramble





Thankyou for you support 











Well I stood in the vets sobbing my heart
out - she considered the flea treatment and said she thinks it is highly
unlikely but she couldn't rule it out. She had only ever seen seizures once
from stronghold in a dog whose owner administered it orally accidently - how
silly can people be. And she said that she would expect continuous seizure if
it was the flea treatment. I said I wasn't convinced and that more and more
people are experiencing adverse reactions but are not reporting them or the
companies are not making them known.











I stood there and whilst I had the doubt
in my mind that the flea treatment had exacerbated these symptoms as opposed to
it being purely FIV related I was fighting for him. The vet said if he was her
cat she would euthanase as he had suffered enough but she also said I have
tried so hard along with Bramble and could see I wanted him to pull through.
She was surprised that he had had 48hrs been seizures and we agreed that if he
has another seizure within 24 hrs then I will have him euthanased - but I will
watch him for another 24hrs to see what happens. 











So fingers crossed - he is depressed at
the moment but it is only a few hours since his last seizure.











Michelle L

Re: Bramble


Hi Michelle,
Did you read the post about rubbing an animal's ears when they are 
having a seizure?  It's suppose to lessen the severity/duration, I think 
they said.  (Sorry I can't remember who posted it).  If there's a 
possibility that it could help, I'd certainly try it.  I know how awful 
seizures are, (my beloved Husky Angel, Vixen had them before she 
passed).  I'm praying for a miraculous turn around for Bramble, and no 
more seizures.  Please let us know how it's going, we're all pulling for 
you guys.

Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thankyou for you support
 
Well I stood in the vets sobbing my heart out - she considered the 
flea treatment and said she thinks it is highly unlikely but she 
couldn't rule it out. She had only ever seen seizures once from 
stronghold in a dog whose owner administered it orally accidently - 
how silly can people be. And she said that she would expect continuous 
seizure if it was the flea treatment. I said I wasn't convinced and 
that more and more people are experiencing adverse reactions but are 
not reporting them or the companies are not making them known.
 
I stood there and whilst I had the doubt in my mind that the flea 
treatment had exacerbated these symptoms as opposed to it being purely 
FIV related I was fighting for him. The vet said if he was her cat she 
would euthanase as he had suffered enough but she also said I have 
tried so hard along with Bramble and could see I wanted him to pull 
through. She was surprised that he had had 48hrs been seizures and we 
agreed that if he has another seizure within 24 hrs then I will have 
him euthanased - but I will watch him for another 24hrs to see what 
happens.
 
So fingers crossed - he is depressed at the moment but it is only a 
few hours since his last seizure.
 
Michelle L

Seizure relief - thanks Kat





Thank you Kat, that's going right into the file.
Nina

Kathleen A. Berard wrote:

  
  
  
  
  Michelle, do
you have any
access to Bach flower remedies? If so, get Oak, Scleranthus and Rescue
Remedy.
Pick up a 1oz dropper bottle from the vets or the health food store
(if
they carry them). Put 1 oz filtered water with 2 drops each of Oak and
Scleranthus,
and 4 drops of Rescue Remedy. Shake well. Then give him 4 drops from
the
treatment bottle every hour for as long as youre up, and give him
extra
doses every 5 minutes if need be if you sense a seizure coming on,
during the
seizure and afterwards for 15-20 minutes. You can drip the drops in his
mouth (onto
the gum is fine or straight into the mouth) or rub them onto the
outside of his
ear where the skin is thin because it will absorb from there.
  
  Kat

Re: Bramble

2005-06-08 Thread TenHouseCats

all paws crossed, and all spirits sending GLOW for you both.

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RE: Seizure relief - thanks Kat










Youll find more info about the Bach
essences, treatment bottles and administration on my site, see http://www.katberard.com/bachfloweressence.htm.




Kat





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Subject: Seizure relief - thanks
Kat



Thank you Kat, that's going right into the file.
Nina

Kathleen A. Berard wrote:



Michelle, do you have any
access to Bach flower remedies? If so, get Oak, Scleranthus and Rescue Remedy.
Pick up a 1oz dropper bottle from the vets or the health food store (if
they carry them). Put 1 oz filtered water with 2 drops each of Oak and
Scleranthus, and 4 drops of Rescue Remedy. Shake well. Then give him 4 drops
from the treatment bottle every hour for as long as youre up, and give
him extra doses every 5 minutes if need be if you sense a seizure coming on,
during the seizure and afterwards for 15-20 minutes. You can drip the drops in
his mouth (onto the gum is fine or straight into the mouth) or rub them onto
the outside of his ear where the skin is thin because it will absorb from
there.



Kat

RE: Healing-Health Issues (bach flower essences, alt therapies)










You can check the Bach centres
website, http://www.bachcentre.com/centre/remedies.htm,
for a list of the remedies with very short descriptions of what each is used
for. The remedies were originally created for people. You might find several
remedies on there that are appropriate for your issues. Youll find
information about making a treatment bottle and administration (same for
humans and animals) on my website, http://www.katberard.com/bachfloweressence.htm.
I would recommend taking them for at least 4 weeks if not several months,
depending on how you see progress being made. Long standing/deep seated issues
can take months to resolve, and there should also be conscious work on
attitudes and beliefs that may be contributing to such mental/emotional states.



Kat





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(bach flower essences, alt therapies)





Bach Flower EssencesRescue
RemedyCan I use this stuff on myself, and what will it do for me?
Anything that will help me concentrate and pay attention to my job? I already carry
around a bag of stones and crystals that were advised to me as possibly helpful
for my issues, and have a rock that sits beside my head on my nightstand at
night to help with nightmares (it's actually to help stoprepeating
negative patterns, but my nightmares have always been re-occurring, so that's
why I chose it).











Anybody here ever use crystals on cats, like
in their bedding, or made into collars or pendants on collars? I'm getting one
made for Bones, healing stones and crystals, for mind and body healing. 











What about magnets? Anyone ever have any
success with using magnetic therapy on their cats for various ills
(particularly interested in if it helps traumatic injuries).











I'm already getting Bones a orthopedic foam
bad with heat and massage options, plus going to start her on crondroitin, MSM,
and vitamin C supplement (it's made just for joint and bone issues). http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=10354N=2001+113677It's
the Flex-care MSM granules on that page. Was considering getting some magnets
to put in the bedding.











Any other suggestions that might speed her
healing time? She's doing really good so far, I just want to do everything I
can. She's going to physical therapy with me in 2 weeks, and I also have the
number of an acupuncturist, but have not called her yet. She does not seem to
be in very much pain anymore, the drugs the vet gave me for her pain seem to
really work great. You guys ever heard of Metacam? I give her a dose every 3
days, and she seems so much better since starting it.






Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html












~~~
I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up
until she earns a free can of formula!
PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!











If you use KMR, even just one can, please
ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!

Re: Healing-Health Issues (bach flower essences, alt therapies)

2005-06-08 Thread Terri Brown

Rescue Remedy is great for humans. Anti-anxiety/stress buster.
I've used it, and I've got friends who use it. Good stuff.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:28
PM
Subject: Re: Healing-Health Issues (bach
flower essences, alt therapies)

Bach Flower EssencesRescue
RemedyCan I use this stuff on myself, and what will it do for me?
Anything that will help me concentrate and pay attention to my job? I already
carry around a bag of stones and crystals that were advised to me as possibly
helpful for my issues, and have a rock that sits beside my head on my
nightstand at night to help with nightmares (it's actually to help
stoprepeating negative patterns, but my nightmares have always been
re-occurring, so that's why I chose it).

Anybody here ever use crystals on cats, like in
their bedding, or made into collars or pendants on collars? I'm getting one
made for Bones, healing stones and crystals, for mind and body healing.

What about magnets? Anyone ever have any
success with using magnetic therapy on their cats for various ills
(particularly interested in if it helps traumatic injuries).

I'm already getting Bones a orthopedic foam bad
with heat and massage options, plus going to start her on crondroitin, MSM,
and vitamin C supplement (it's made just for joint and bone issues). http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=10354N=2001+113677It's
the Flex-care MSM granules on that page. Was considering getting some magnets
to put in the bedding.

Any other suggestions that might speed her
healing time? She's doing really good so far, I just want to do everything I
can. She's going to physical therapy with me in 2 weeks, and I also have the
number of an acupuncturist, but have not called her yet. She does not seem to
be in very much pain anymore, the drugs the vet gave me for her pain seem to
really work great. You guys ever heard of Metacam? I give her a dose every 3
days, and she seems so much better since starting it.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html

~~~I
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a
free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for
Bazil!

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Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

Well, actually, Tea Tree Oil is not something you want to use 
casually.  While it does have it's uses, there are cases of it being 
harmful.  Might look around the pet store, or health food store.  Arnica 
Cream is still my favorite, but they may have some kind of combo cream.


Gloria

At 01:16 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
Neosporin or Tree Tee Oil, sound good to me so far, but thanks for all the 
input you guys I knew I could count on you

Cherie

Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good point, a few years back I researched that. But it turned out that
only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if ingested in
large quantities. A part of it is a strong purgative. People can be
sensitive too. And related to skin reactions, in older plants, there's an
inner part that the skin can *sometimes* be sensitive to.

However, the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is
processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant,
generally - some are gel and some are juice, and some are made from
those, and some have additives. Some have sodium benzoate added, for
example, which is also a no-no for cats. But they don't consist of the
entire plant. Consequently, it's not really true that anything with a
piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats. It does deserve some thought and
questioning.

As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do give
it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C, in my
situation. I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't remember the
kind - as I use the homeopathic arnica more often. And of course, I don't
feed cats the raw plant (or me either), much less large quantities, not
that the little buggers would eat it, and I don't use the raw plant
topically. There are several other brands besides Georges that are
perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got into a habit of buying Georges.

Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but that's
my recollection.

Best of luck -

Gloria




At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if the
cat is festidious about getting it off Prob. not a good idea, sorry
Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so after treatment to
make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!

Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for the
skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.

You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an over
the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if licked off.

Nina wrote:
Cherie,
Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about
infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's
100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she
licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it
helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?
Nina

Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

  Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky
  and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small boned,
  I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
  Cherie



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Re: Bramble


Prayers coming for Bramble!  We are all pulling for you!  Gloria

At 01:34 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:

Thankyou for you support

Well I stood in the vets sobbing my heart out - she considered the flea 
treatment and said she thinks it is highly unlikely but she couldn't rule 
it out. She had only ever seen seizures once from stronghold in a dog 
whose owner administered it orally accidently - how silly can people be. 
And she said that she would expect continuous seizure if it was the flea 
treatment. I said I wasn't convinced and that more and more people are 
experiencing adverse reactions but are not reporting them or the companies 
are not making them known.


I stood there and whilst I had the doubt in my mind that the flea 
treatment had exacerbated these symptoms as opposed to it being purely FIV 
related I was fighting for him. The vet said if he was her cat she would 
euthanase as he had suffered enough but she also said I have tried so hard 
along with Bramble and could see I wanted him to pull through. She was 
surprised that he had had 48hrs been seizures and we agreed that if he has 
another seizure within 24 hrs then I will have him euthanased - but I will 
watch him for another 24hrs to see what happens.


So fingers crossed - he is depressed at the moment but it is only a few 
hours since his last seizure.


Michelle L

Re: Healing-Health Issues (bach flower essences, alt therapies)

Jenn,

For injuries...acupuncture  chiropractic have worked wonders..even on pets. (Personally, I don't hold much stock with crystals or magnets...but that's just because I haven't seen them work for me or minethat's not to say they don't work.."There's more things on Heaven and Earth Mercuitio"Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Rescue Remedy is great for humans. Anti-anxiety/stress buster. I've used it, and I've got friends who use it. Good stuff.

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Healing-Health Issues (bach flower essences, alt therapies)

Bach Flower EssencesRescue RemedyCan I use this stuff on myself, and what will it do for me? Anything that will help me concentrate and pay attention to my job? I already carry around a bag of stones and crystals that were advised to me as possibly helpful for my issues, and have a rock that sits beside my head on my nightstand at night to help with nightmares (it's actually to help stoprepeating negative patterns, but my nightmares have always been re-occurring, so that's why I chose it).

Anybody here ever use crystals on cats, like in their bedding, or made into collars or pendants on collars? I'm getting one made for Bones, healing stones and crystals, for mind and body healing. 

What about magnets? Anyone ever have any success with using magnetic therapy on their cats for various ills (particularly interested in if it helps traumatic injuries).

I'm already getting Bones a orthopedic foam bad with heat and massage options, plus going to start her on crondroitin, MSM, and vitamin C supplement (it's made just for joint and bone issues). http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=10354N=2001+113677It's the Flex-care MSM granules on that page. Was considering getting some magnets to put in the bedding.

Any other suggestions that might speed her healing time? She's doing really good so far, I just want to do everything I can. She's going to physical therapy with me in 2 weeks, and I also have the number of an acupuncturist, but have not called her yet. She does not seem to be in very much pain anymore, the drugs the vet gave me for her pain seem to really work great. You guys ever heard of Metacam? I give her a dose every 3 days, and she seems so much better since starting it.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 

~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

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Re: Healing-Health Issues (bach flower essences, alt therapies)

Same here - good stuff.  Acupuncture can be very helpful also.  Gloria

At 03:00 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
Rescue Remedy is great for humans.  Anti-anxiety/stress buster.  I've used 
it, and I've got friends who use it.  Good stuff.

- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Healing-Health Issues (bach flower essences, alt therapies)

Bach Flower EssencesRescue Remedy Can I use this stuff on myself, 
and what will it do for me? Anything that will help me concentrate and pay 
attention to my job? I already carry around a bag of stones and crystals 
that were advised to me as possibly helpful for my issues, and have a rock 
that sits beside my head on my nightstand at night to help with nightmares 
(it's actually to help stop repeating negative patterns, but my nightmares 
have always been re-occurring, so that's why I chose it).

Anybody here ever use crystals on cats, like in their bedding, or made 
into collars or pendants on collars? I'm getting one made for Bones, 
healing stones and crystals, for mind and body healing.

What about magnets? Anyone ever have any success with using magnetic 
therapy on their cats for various ills (particularly interested in if it 
helps traumatic injuries).

I'm already getting Bones a orthopedic foam bad with heat and massage 
options, plus going to start her on crondroitin, MSM, and vitamin C 
supplement (it's made just for joint and bone issues). 
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=10354N=2001+113677http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=10354N=2001+113677 
It's the Flex-care MSM granules on that page. Was considering getting some 
magnets to put in the bedding.

Any other suggestions that might speed her healing time? She's doing 
really good so far, I just want to do everything I can. She's going to 
physical therapy with me in 2 weeks, and I also have the number of an 
acupuncturist, but have not called her yet. She does not seem to be in 
very much pain anymore, the drugs the vet gave me for her pain seem to 
really work great. You guys ever heard of Metacam? I give her a dose every 
3 days, and she seems so much better since starting it.

Jenn
http://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html

~~~
I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs 
cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up 
until she earns a free can of formula!

PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!

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[Fwd: [FelineIBD] OT: Please help! Need good vet in MN!]


Hi gang,
I'm cross posting this from my IBD list.  I checked our FeLV friendly 
vets on our website and didn't come up with any for MN or SD.  Do you 
know anyone that could help this lady?

Nina
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6/8/05 @ 2:27 pm CST


Hi all,

I am a lurker on this list and have never posted, but I really 
need some help. Does anyone here have an rDVM or internist in MN or 
SD that they really like? 

I am very active on the Feline Lymphoma list and there is a new girl 
there named Christine who I am trying very hard to help. 
Christine's kitty Victor (FeLV+ / Lymphoma / Severally anemic) is
critically ill and his doc has given up on him! (Not experienced 
with FeLV or comfortable managing pets with cancer.) Christine and
Victor are in Minnesota and willing to drive almost anywhere in MN
or SD. They have been driving 4 hrs each way to get to this 
internist who has given up without hardly even trying, but we on the 
Lymphoma List know there are more options than those made available 
to this family and have seen cats much worse turn around with proper 
treatment. We think we can get Victor some help from a consulting
oncologist / hematologist but they have to work with an rDVM and
Victor's doc sent him home to die last week...

Is there anyone on the list who has a good vet in MN?? (I have
checked all the board certified lists I have and we have struck
out!) Please, if any of you can suggest someone, please email me as
soon as possible at stacyleesmith @ hotmail.com (remove spaces)...


THANK YOU!!

Stacy Smith  Samba (FeLV+  Lymphoma)
Kansas City















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FW: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

Well--these little guys are still not out of the woods---lets hope they
managed to get some food / water during these last days.

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Neighborhood Cats [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:12 PM
To: Chris
Subject: RE: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

We'll know more about the cats and if they're still there tomorrow when we
trap.
 Don't know why all of a sudden the nuns turned on the cats.  I suspect
they've
been annoyed with them all along.

Bryan

Quoting Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 How wonderful---Like me, I know lots of people called, sent e-mails, etc.
 I hate to be a pest but 1) has anyone seen the cats? Are they all OK?  2)
 why did the archdiose suddenly stop your volunteers from doing what
they've
 been doing for 8 years?

 Chris
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Neighborhood Cats [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:02 AM
 To: Chris
 Subject: Re: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

 Yes.  This morning the nuns and Archdiocese agreed to allow volunteers to
 trap
 and remove the cats to Pets Alive, a nearby sanctuary.

 Bryan Kortis
 Neighborhood Cats

 Quoting Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  There is a post going around on the internet about the 7 cats at this
  monastery---that after 8 years of being managed, the mother superior has
  ordered that they be removed and prevented anyone from feeding them for
 the
  last 5 days-is this true

  Chris

   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Fwd: [FelineIBD] OT: Please help! Need good vet in MN!]

What about vets in Wisconsin?

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 4:54 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Fwd: [FelineIBD] OT: Please help! Need good vet in MN!]

Hi gang,
I'm cross posting this from my IBD list.  I checked our FeLV friendly 
vets on our website and didn't come up with any for MN or SD.  Do you 
know anyone that could help this lady?
Nina

Re: FW: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery

Thank you Chris, for keeping us posted...I am still outraged with the Church.Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well--these little guys are still not out of the woods---lets hope theymanaged to get some food / water during these last days.Chris[EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original Message-From: Neighborhood Cats [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 3:12 PMTo: ChrisSubject: RE: Cats at Corpus Christi MonasteryWe'll know more about the cats and if they're still there tomorrow when wetrap.Don't know why all of a sudden the nuns turned on the cats. I suspectthey'vebeen annoyed with them all along.BryanQuoting Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: How wonderful---Like me, I know lots of people called, sent e-mails, etc. I hate to be a pest but 1) has anyone seen the cats? Are they all OK? 2) why did the archdiose suddenly stop your volunteers from doing
 whatthey've been doing for 8 years? Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Neighborhood Cats [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:02 AM To: Chris Subject: Re: Cats at Corpus Christi Monastery Yes. This morning the nuns and Archdiocese agreed to allow volunteers to trap and remove the cats to Pets Alive, a nearby sanctuary. Bryan Kortis Neighborhood Cats Quoting Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:  There is a post going around on the internet about the 7 cats at this  monastery---that after 8 years of being managed, the mother superior has  ordered that they be removed and prevented anyone from feeding them for the  last 5 days-is this true Chris
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]Have a purrfect day
Cherie

RE: Problem - I think?- aloe

2005-06-08 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto

I use the same brand - and I give it to Ginger every day with other
supplements (TF, reishi and maitake mushrooms, DMG, Vitamns, astrogas,
CQ10, and etc...) it's ok to give to every day though, right?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

The brand of aloe gel I got for Gypsy is Lily of the Desert.  No 
artificial colorings, no fragrance, no animal dirivatives, non animal 
tested.  Ingredients 99.5% certified organic aloe vera gel, carbomer 
940, (whatever the heck that is), Vita A,C, and E.  I found it at Whole 
Foods Market.
Nina 

Gloria B. Lane wrote:

 Good point, a few years back I researched that.  But it turned out 
 that only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if 
 ingested in large quantities.  A part of it is a strong purgative.  
 People can be sensitive too.  And related to skin reactions, in older 
 plants, there's an inner part that  the skin can  *sometimes* be 
 sensitive to.

 However,  the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is 
 processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant, 
 generally  - some are gel and some are juice, and some are made 
 from those, and some have additives.  Some have sodium benzoate added,

 for example, which is also a no-no for cats.But they don't consist

 of the entire plant.  Consequently, it's not really true that anything

 with a piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats.  It does deserve some

 thought and questioning.

 As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do 
 give it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C,

 in my situation.  I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't 
 remember the kind - as I use the  homeopathic arnica more often.  And 
 of course, I don't feed cats the raw plant (or me either),  much less 
 large quantities, not that the little buggers would eat it, and I 
 don't use the raw plant topically.  There are several other brands 
 besides Georges that are perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got

 into a habit of buying Georges.

 Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but 
 that's my recollection.

 Best of luck -

 Gloria

 At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:

 Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if 
 the cat is festidious about getting it off  Prob. not a good 
 idea, sorry Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so 
 after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!

 Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for 
 the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.

 You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an 
 over the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if 
 licked off.

 Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cherie,
 Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about
 infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's
 100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she
 licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it
 helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?
 Nina

 Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

  Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky
  and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small
boned,
  I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
  Cherie

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RE: Bramble

2005-06-08 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto

Ditto, I will pray so very hard for your baby, Bramble! NO more
seizers
Michelle, try to contemplate very hard the situation, which you wish to
produce, then it will come true - imagine that he will no longer suffer
from seizers at all and recovers completely and live happily and
healthfully with you ever after..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bramble

Prayers coming for Bramble!  We are all pulling for you!  Gloria

At 01:34 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:
Thankyou for you support

Well I stood in the vets sobbing my heart out - she considered the flea

treatment and said she thinks it is highly unlikely but she couldn't
rule 
it out. She had only ever seen seizures once from stronghold in a dog 
whose owner administered it orally accidently - how silly can people
be. 
And she said that she would expect continuous seizure if it was the
flea 
treatment. I said I wasn't convinced and that more and more people are 
experiencing adverse reactions but are not reporting them or the
companies 
are not making them known.

I stood there and whilst I had the doubt in my mind that the flea 
treatment had exacerbated these symptoms as opposed to it being purely
FIV 
related I was fighting for him. The vet said if he was her cat she
would 
euthanase as he had suffered enough but she also said I have tried so
hard 
along with Bramble and could see I wanted him to pull through. She was 
surprised that he had had 48hrs been seizures and we agreed that if he
has 
another seizure within 24 hrs then I will have him euthanased - but I
will 
watch him for another 24hrs to see what happens.

So fingers crossed - he is depressed at the moment but it is only a few

hours since his last seizure.

Michelle L

Re: need prayers please!

2005-06-08 Thread catatonya

Hideyo,

Prayers and healing thoughts to Corky and Carl. I hope this post finds them feeling better.

tonyaHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





One of my 4 year old babies, a mutt doggy, Corky (mix of Scottie, Westie and Schnauzer) all of sudden started having bloody stools early this morning  or I should say, there really was no stools, just tons and tons of dark red bloods coming out like a flood so much came out that I almost fainted  I never seen so much blood at one place she has also thrown up  I took her to her the emergency clinic getting some IV and antibiotics  she bleeded there also. After some testing, they narrowed it down to a couple of things  and they are hoping that fluid therapy and the antibiotics will treat her - please pray for Corks recovery  a poor baby, she is very scared there, she is never out of the house and I really want to be able to bring her home soon!

Also, last Saturday, I rescued a boy kitty who I had been feeding for several months now. I noticed that he lost lots of weight (I hadnt seen him for a couple of weeks)  and I took him to the vet  everything seems to be OK except that on ELISA, he tested positive on FIV  now I am having Cornell Lab to do the western blot (as I had a couple of cats who tested positive on FIV via ELISA, and ended up negative later)  anyway, now I have to figure out where to place him  he must have belonged to someone a long time ago, as he is very friendly and used to people. I talked to Carl (I named him Carl) via AC  Carl told my AC that he used to be an indoor kitty when she was a kitten, and somehow he became an outdoor kitty, and somehow, then he did not have a home anywhere  I asked via AC, if he would like to stay with me and to be an indoor kitty, he said he would like that very
 much  I hope his lost weight is just a temporary, and I am so praying that the western blot will come back as negative  please also pray for Carls well-being, he is such a sweet baby, and he has had a rough life since he had lost home

Re: Problem - I think?- aloe


Hideyo,
I was using the aloe gel topically for Gypsy.  Are you giving Ginger 
Aloe liquid every day?  I had been giving DMG to my +s, but haven't in a 
while.  I also give TF stress formula when anyone is showing symptoms, 
and I just ordered some feline TF for more regular supplementation.  
Sally just told me about a specific mushroom she was reading about with 
immune boosting properties, but she was having brain freeze while I was 
talking to her and couldn't remember the name.  She's going to send me 
copies of research she did on it, I'll pass it on when I get it.  So, I 
guess to answer your question...  I don't know if giving aloe everyday 
is okay, or not.  My first guess would be that it is, I gave it to my 
husband, (among an incredibly long list of other remedies), while he was 
recuperating from a bad car accident, but I can't say for sure.  Did you 
look on Kat's website, or do any research about it?  Let me know.

Nina

Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:


I use the same brand - and I give it to Ginger every day with other
supplements (TF, reishi and maitake mushrooms, DMG, Vitamns, astrogas,
CQ10, and etc...) it's ok to give to every day though, right?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Problem - I think?- aloe

The brand of aloe gel I got for Gypsy is Lily of the Desert.  No 
artificial colorings, no fragrance, no animal dirivatives, non animal 
tested.  Ingredients 99.5% certified organic aloe vera gel, carbomer 
940, (whatever the heck that is), Vita A,C, and E.  I found it at Whole 
Foods Market.
Nina 


Gloria B. Lane wrote:

 

Good point, a few years back I researched that.  But it turned out 
that only one part of the aloe plant is toxic to cats, and then if 
ingested in large quantities.  A part of it is a strong purgative.  
People can be sensitive too.  And related to skin reactions, in older 
plants, there's an inner part that  the skin can  *sometimes* be 
sensitive to.


However,  the aloe you buy in different formulations in the stores is 
processed in various ways and doesn't consist of the entire plant, 
generally  - some are gel and some are juice, and some are made 
from those, and some have additives.  Some have sodium benzoate added,
   



 


for example, which is also a no-no for cats.But they don't consist
   



 


of the entire plant.  Consequently, it's not really true that anything
   



 


with a piece of aloe in it is poisonous to cats.  It does deserve some
   



 


thought and questioning.

As a result of my reading, I bought George's liquid aloe vera and do 
give it to my cats orally on occasion, mixed with Lysine or Vitamin C,
   



 

in my situation.  I also use an aloe cream very occasionally, don't 
remember the kind - as I use the  homeopathic arnica more often.  And 
of course, I don't feed cats the raw plant (or me either),  much less 
large quantities, not that the little buggers would eat it, and I 
don't use the raw plant topically.  There are several other brands 
besides Georges that are perfectly safe, as are the creams, I just got
   



 


into a habit of buying Georges.

Perhaps someone here has more info - it's been a while for me, but 
that's my recollection.


Best of luck -

Gloria




At 12:03 PM 6/8/2005, you wrote:

   

Aloe, ingested is deadly to cats! -at least the aloe plant is and if 
the cat is festidious about getting it off  Prob. not a good 
idea, sorry Nina, unless you can restrain the cat for a day or so 
after treatment to make certain it does not wipe off and lick paw!


Tea Tree oil, in small amounts, applied daily, is very healing for 
the skin - human and animal- but check with vet first.


You would be better off with Neosporien (sp?) or call the vet for an 
over the counter topical you can apply that won't be too bad if 
licked off.


Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cherie,
Just how bad are these sores? If you're not too worried about
infection, I'd use aloe first. Make sure you get the aloe gel that's
100% aloe with no additives, (read those labels!). That way if she
licks at it, there's no harm. I used aloe when Gypsy had sores and it
helped. Have you called your vet about this yet?
Nina

Cherie A Gabbert wrote:

 


Thanks Gloria, she can keep her food down, she is just very finicky
and very small, she is a Silver Persian and they are very small
   


boned,
 


I was just worried when I saw the sores, Would you use Neosporin?
Cherie
   



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Hideyo - how is Corky?


You haven't updated us about Corky.  How is he?  Is he home?
Nina

Re: Hello from Kat in Texas!

2005-06-08 Thread Sheila208

Jenn, I really like the way you think. I wish there were more people like you in this world.

Re: Bramble