Re: Dixie Louise's teeth

2005-10-27 Thread maimaipg



She had blood work done the first part of 
October. The missing teeth were missing when I first had her 
examined. I have no clue what her history is. The blood work did 
show that she had been spayed. She kept telling me and some animal 
communicators I know that she "had been to the vet's before and didn't 
like it one bit" (we all interpreted that to mean she had been spayed). My 
vet ran the test even though he was convinced she had not been spayed (no 
scar). Anyway, she has been someone's cat and, for reasons unknown, found 
herself on her own. I have her on interferon for the teeth. I just 
got some amoxi ...she has allergies and with the weather changes here I felt she 
might be developing a cold. I'll be returning to Louisville next 
week and will have her rechecked. (Earlier if there is a significant 
change of course.) 

Thanks for the information. And the good 
wishes.


- Original Message - 

  From: 
  catatonya 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:09 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Dixie Louise's teeth
  
  I had two cats with constant mouth problems that my vet tested for 
  'bartonella'. She put them on an antibiotic for it which helped. 
  Felv positive cats often have mouth problems in general. You said she 
  has lost teeth. Did you mean the vet pulled them? Either way, how 
  long has it been since a vet checked her teeth.
  
  I have a separate negative cat who had to have most of his teeth pulled 
  at a very young age. Basically every year they had to pull more and 
  more.
  
  I would have the vet check her out for stomasitis (spelling?) and 
  bartonella for sure.
  
  Bad breath is also a sign of kidney failure. Of course that's 
  pretty unlikely in such a young cat, but bloodwork can show if the kidneys are 
  involved. I had another cat who had chronic kidney disease from a very 
  young age due to just being born with small kidneys..
  
  Good luck with Dixie Louise.
  
  tonyamaimaipg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  



Dixie Louise is FeLV + and has gingivitis. She 
has lost a couple of teeth (maybe from the gingivitis or maybe from the poor 
living conditions she had--she was a throwaway). She has developed an 
odd odor to her breath. I am trying to brush her teeth and she is on 
Interferon as well as some homeopathic/alternative meds. Can anyone 
give me any advise on brushing a cat's teeth and on how to deal with this 
problem? She is about a year and a half old (best guess) and extremely 
sweet. 

Thanks


My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread Julie Johnson
Dear Friends,

Mandy is gone. She was not doing well Tuesday night (bleeding from the mouth and unable to eat) and I made the decision to end her suffering. I called my husband and he left work right away to come home. We held her and stroked her and ultimately she began to purr. She never cared to be held; she liked to pick the spot and sit ON you, but she did curl up in her blanket and let us hold her. We were with her and holding her and talking softly to her and she had one paw curled over my finger when she left us.

It's been so empty the last two nights without my little reading partner; she always liked to sit on the bed with her upper body across my arm and her paws on my shoulder while I read at night. Since she became sick, she wanted to be with me all the time and she'd been reading with me every night for weeks.

I keep thinking back to our trip to the oncologist; only last week and it seems forever ago. Even though the news for Mandy was not good, we had a lovely day and I am so grateful for it. She and Winksnoozed the whole way home. They were all curled up together on their faux mink and listening to their special pet music. I kept turning back to look at them and it was so peaceful and loving. We stopped where I work to feed my feral colony and I took the carrier out of the car and set it on the ground while I fed; Mandy trotted right to the front and began to "meow" to Depot Charlie! She was such a little talker and he looked so puzzled! I'm happy they were able to "meet".

Thank you all for being here and for your good thoughts and wishes; I'd be completely lost without you during this year of terrible losses. I have to try and concentrate on how fortunate we were to have shared her short life. I miss her; we had our morning routine of putting the ingredients in the food processor and she'd "talk" to me once the whirr of the blade sounded. These last two mornings have been empty, as well. You are the only ones who understand the huge hole in our home despite the joy of our other cats.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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Re: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread TatorBunz


Julie,
 I'm so sorry to hear of "Mandy's" passing. At least she passed while at home in your arms instead of a cold shelter/Vet office. Her suffering is over now and she is at peace. You and your husband did what you could for her and made her life comfortable. She knows...she loved you for it. She is at the Rainbow Bridge playing with the others until the day comes to be with you again.
My heart goes all out tothe both of you. Your are in my thoughts and prayers.
God only knows how much we all know what it is like to lose a kitty to this horrible disease. At least these kitties had a life with us instead of elsewhere when their future unpredictable.
Bless You!

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Re: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread gblane
Julie, I haven't been keeping up on my posts lately, but immediately saw 
yours this morning.  I'm so very sorry for the loss of your beloved Mandy - 
such sweet memories, such caring.  We all know how you feel, and the empty 
sense of loss - the huge hole in your heart and life, that eventually heals 
but never goes totally away.  We are all with you in grieving for your dear 
baby as you have grieved for ours.  Gloria




At 09:02 AM 10/27/2005, you wrote:

Dear Friends,

Mandy is gone.  She was not doing well Tuesday night (bleeding from the 
mouth and unable to eat) and I made the decision to end her suffering.  I 
called my husband and he left work right away to come home.  We held her 
and stroked her and ultimately she began to purr.  She never cared to be 
held; she liked to pick the spot and sit ON you, but she did curl up in 
her blanket and let us hold her.  We were with her and holding her and 
talking softly to her and she had one paw curled over my finger when she 
left us.





Re: Question about IFA Test Results

2005-10-27 Thread chris

Honestly my Monty did all the work himself. I feed him Purina ProPlan Indoor formula dry food and just give him lots of love and attention. I am just so grateful at the news, now I don't have to panic if he sneezes:)

Chris

-- Original message -- 

Hey guys
I have been off the list for what two or three years now...I want to say that I am seeing so many more over coming the virus to negative. Back in the day it was very rare at times I thought some people might have made it up or the tests were not accurate.
What do you contribute the success to?
Karen 
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RE: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



Oh 
Julie, I'm crying with you. I'm terribly sorry. Nothing I can say will take away 
the ache in your heart. When it all gets too much, hold on to the beautiful life 
and the happy times you and Mandy shared.And that she was loved and cared 
for right to the end. Your sweet furball couldn't have found a more loving home 
than yours. But I know how terribly hard it is. They have a place in our hearts 
forever, and Mandy will forever hold a special place in yours. 

You're 
so rightonly the good folks here understand the connection and love that we 
have for our furballs and the pain of loss when they leave. We're all here 
for you, and aching with you and your husband.
Much 
love and many hugs, and know that I'm thinking of you, and praying you find 
comfort in all the joy you gave sweet Mandy, and thegood and 
funtimes you shared.
Kerry

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Julie JohnsonSent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 
9:03 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: My 
Beautiful Mandy
Dear Friends,

Mandy is gone. She was not doing well Tuesday night (bleeding from 
the mouth and unable to eat) and I made the decision to end her suffering. 
I called my husband and he left work right away to come home. We held her 
and stroked her and ultimately she began to purr. She never cared to be 
held; she liked to pick the spot and sit ON you, but she did curl up in her 
blanket and let us hold her. We were with her and holding her and talking 
softly to her and she had one paw curled over my finger when she left us.

It's been so empty the last two nights without my little reading partner; 
she always liked to sit on the bed with her upper body across my arm and her 
paws on my shoulder while I read at night. Since she became sick, she 
wanted to be with me all the time and she'd been reading with me every night for 
weeks.

I keep thinking back to our trip to the oncologist; only last week and it 
seems forever ago. Even though the news for Mandy was not good, we had a 
lovely day and I am so grateful for it. She and Winksnoozed the 
whole way home. They were all curled up together on their faux mink and 
listening to their special pet music. I kept turning back to look at them 
and it was so peaceful and loving. We stopped where I work to feed my 
feral colony and I took the carrier out of the car and set it on the ground 
while I fed; Mandy trotted right to the front and began to "meow" to Depot 
Charlie! She was such a little talker and he looked so puzzled! I'm 
happy they were able to "meet".

Thank you all for being here and for your good thoughts and wishes; I'd be 
completely lost without you during this year of terrible losses. I have to 
try and concentrate on how fortunate we were to have shared her short 
life. I miss her; we had our morning routine of putting the ingredients in 
the food processor and she'd "talk" to me once the whirr of the blade 
sounded. These last two mornings have been empty, as well. You are 
the only ones who understand the huge hole in our home despite the joy of our 
other cats.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the 
more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " 
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by 
the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi 
(1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about 
de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.


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Re: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread Lernermichelle



I am so, so sorry. You are going through hell.
Michelle


Re: fever....how to break

2005-10-27 Thread Lernermichelle




Have you tried Lysine-- 500 mg? Also, when Ginger's fever kept coming back, 
I did Immuno-regulin, which initially made it go up to 106 for an hour, which 
was scary, but then after the second dosage of I-R 3 days later it broke 
completely.
Michelle



In a message dated 10/26/2005 9:33:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ok I know I have been out of rescue for quite a while I have a 
  adult negative cat with viral uri who has seen two vets in the past 48 hours 
  and just busted out with a high fever 104 and dehydration.sub Q now while 
  typing but what do you suggest to break the fever ? anyone?
  
  see our 
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Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread Lomaxturtle
Prayers going out for Mandy's soul as she goes to the bridge. It's heart 
breaking but I understand what you say about the value of having a lovely last 
day together - it is priceless.
I hope you can be comforted knowing she loved and trusted you enough to do the 
right thing and she showed that by wanting to be with you when she was sick.

Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel  Angel Bramble



Re: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread Del Daniels



Oh, Julie, big big hugs to you. Mandy was a 
sweetness in your life you will treasure always. She had your love when 
she needed it most. My sympathy to you and your hubby.

Del


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Julie 
  Johnson 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 9:02 
  AM
  Subject: My Beautiful Mandy
  
  Dear Friends,
  
  Mandy is gone. She was not doing well Tuesday night (bleeding from 
  the mouth and unable to eat) and I made the decision to end her 
  suffering. I called my husband and he left work right away to come 
  home. We held her and stroked her and ultimately she began to 
  purr. She never cared to be held; she liked to pick the spot and sit ON 
  you, but she did curl up in her blanket and let us hold her. We were 
  with her and holding her and talking softly to her and she had one paw curled 
  over my finger when she left us.
  
  It's been so empty the last two nights without my little reading partner; 
  she always liked to sit on the bed with her upper body across my arm and her 
  paws on my shoulder while I read at night. Since she became sick, she 
  wanted to be with me all the time and she'd been reading with me every night 
  for weeks.
  
  I keep thinking back to our trip to the oncologist; only last week and it 
  seems forever ago. Even though the news for Mandy was not good, we had a 
  lovely day and I am so grateful for it. She and Winksnoozed the 
  whole way home. They were all curled up together on their faux mink and 
  listening to their special pet music. I kept turning back to look at 
  them and it was so peaceful and loving. We stopped where I work to feed 
  my feral colony and I took the carrier out of the car and set it on the ground 
  while I fed; Mandy trotted right to the front and began to "meow" to Depot 
  Charlie! She was such a little talker and he looked so puzzled! 
  I'm happy they were able to "meet".
  
  Thank you all for being here and for your good thoughts and wishes; I'd 
  be completely lost without you during this year of terrible losses. I 
  have to try and concentrate on how fortunate we were to have shared her short 
  life. I miss her; we had our morning routine of putting the ingredients 
  in the food processor and she'd "talk" to me once the whirr of the blade 
  sounded. These last two mornings have been empty, as well. You are 
  the only ones who understand the huge hole in our home despite the joy of our 
  other cats.
  
  Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the 
  more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " 
  "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by 
  the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi 
  (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about 
  de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
  
  
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Re: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread Barb Moermond
Oh Julie,
What a heartwarming tribute to your sweet Mandy. I'm so very glad that her passing was peaceful and that you and your husband were both able to see her off to the Bridge. I do understand the hole she left behind; a member of your family has passed, it's as simple and as painful as that. Our thoughts and tears are with you and your husband and your furkids.

HUGSJulie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Friends,

Mandy is gone. She was not doing well Tuesday night (bleeding from the mouth and unable to eat) and I made the decision to end her suffering. I called my husband and he left work right away to come home. We held her and stroked her and ultimately she began to purr. She never cared to be held; she liked to pick the spot and sit ON you, but she did curl up in her blanket and let us hold her. We were with her and holding her and talking softly to her and she had one paw curled over my finger when she left us.

It's been so empty the last two nights without my little reading partner; she always liked to sit on the bed with her upper body across my arm and her paws on my shoulder while I read at night. Since she became sick, she wanted to be with me all the time and she'd been reading with me every night for weeks.

I keep thinking back to our trip to the oncologist; only last week and it seems forever ago. Even though the news for Mandy was not good, we had a lovely day and I am so grateful for it. She and Winksnoozed the whole way home. They were all curled up together on their faux mink and listening to their special pet music. I kept turning back to look at them and it was so peaceful and loving. We stopped where I work to feed my feral colony and I took the carrier out of the car and set it on the ground while I fed; Mandy trotted right to the front and began to "meow" to Depot Charlie! She was such a little talker and he looked so puzzled! I'm happy they were able to "meet".

Thank you all for being here and for your good thoughts and wishes; I'd be completely lost without you during this year of terrible losses. I have to try and concentrate on how fortunate we were to have shared her short life. I miss her; we had our morning routine of putting the ingredients in the food processor and she'd "talk" to me once the whirr of the blade sounded. These last two mornings have been empty, as well. You are the only ones who understand the huge hole in our home despite the joy of our other cats.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.


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Re: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread Susan Loesch
Julie, I am so sorry. How wonderful that you have some good tiimes to remember even as she neared the end. I know what you mean when you say "empty" and my thoughts are with you and with her.Julie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Friends,

Mandy is gone. She was not doing well Tuesday night (bleeding from the mouth and unable to eat) and I made the decision to end her suffering. I called my husband and he left work right away to come home. We held her and stroked her and ultimately she began to purr. She never cared to be held; she liked to pick the spot and sit ON you, but she did curl up in her blanket and let us hold her. We were with her and holding her and talking softly to her and she had one paw curled over my finger when she left us.

It's been so empty the last two nights without my little reading partner; she always liked to sit on the bed with her upper body across my arm and her paws on my shoulder while I read at night. Since she became sick, she wanted to be with me all the time and she'd been reading with me every night for weeks.

I keep thinking back to our trip to the oncologist; only last week and it seems forever ago. Even though the news for Mandy was not good, we had a lovely day and I am so grateful for it. She and Winksnoozed the whole way home. They were all curled up together on their faux mink and listening to their special pet music. I kept turning back to look at them and it was so peaceful and loving. We stopped where I work to feed my feral colony and I took the carrier out of the car and set it on the ground while I fed; Mandy trotted right to the front and began to "meow" to Depot Charlie! She was such a little talker and he looked so puzzled! I'm happy they were able to "meet".

Thank you all for being here and for your good thoughts and wishes; I'd be completely lost without you during this year of terrible losses. I have to try and concentrate on how fortunate we were to have shared her short life. I miss her; we had our morning routine of putting the ingredients in the food processor and she'd "talk" to me once the whirr of the blade sounded. These last two mornings have been empty, as well. You are the only ones who understand the huge hole in our home despite the joy of our other cats.

Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.


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Re: My Beautiful Mandy and Julie

2005-10-27 Thread Matchett



Dearest Julie,

 My heart goes out to you and 
your husband, I'm so terribly sorry for your loss. My name is also Julie. I 
discovered this group last weekend, after getting the devasting news that my 
beloved cat Jazzer is sick with FeLV. I haven't had the heart to post anything 
yet, but I've followed everyone's comments and especially yours because our 
situations so closely echo each other. Jazzy started going downhill two weeks 
ago, and after taking him to the vet twice, they finally made the diagnosis on 
Saturday. I have cried my heart out since that time, but am trying to put on a 
brave face for Jazzy's sake. The vet suggested putting him to sleep, but I just 
couldn't bear the thought of that. I've brought him home now, and he spends most 
of his time in a cardboard box in the bedroom closet, where he seems to be 
fairly content. He's still purring softly when I pet him, but shows no interest 
in food and not much more in drinking water. The vet prescribed Prednisone for 
him to try and stimulate his appetite. He fought us tooth and claw with the 
pills - he hates getting things crammed down his throat (I can't blame him - 
he's always been such an independent kitty) and we tried a liquid suspension 
formula with no luck either. I decided last night to stop the treatment because 
it doesn't seem to be helping much, if at all. It was breaking my heart to see 
him struggle so, and when I'd go into cuddle him, he'd sort of cringe away from 
me - I don't want him to spend the little time he has left with me being scared. 
Part of me really can't believe this is happening - I'm not ready to let my 
Jazzy cat go. He's been my greatest love for the past 11 years, my confidante, 
my friend and a part of my soul. I go to bed at night, and I keep expecting him 
to jump up and nudge my face like he does in the middle of the night, to let him 
under the covers. He's slept with me faithfully every night for years and I'm so 
used to falling asleep with his soft little purr in my ear and his warmth 
against my body. My heart is absolutely breaking apart...I want to thank you all 
for this support group - after reading all your posts, I can't think of a more 
supportive, warm, caring group of people. Even behind the scenes, you have all 
been a source of comfort to me, knowing that there are other people in this 
world who are feeling and coping with the same things that I am right now. God 
bless you all, keep your kitties safe and loved, give them tons of hugs and 
velvet paw kisses, and please, please, pray for my little Jazzy cat. Love to 
all, Julie


Re: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread wendy
Julie,

What do you say to someone who's heart is broken? 
This may sound a little odd, but I remember this poem
from when I tried out for drill team in high school
and didn't make it.  I know you are no longer a child,
but you are a child of God.  

PRAYER 

Lord, you have taught me to accept defeat 
To taste the bitter when I sought the sweet 
Knowing the longest night brings hopeful dawn, 
I gather up the pieces and go on. 

Now, let your Spirit tell me how to treat 
A child whose dreams lie broken at her feet; 
How to share the hard-earned wisdom and the calm, 
The confidence, to be her sore heart's balm? 

She's tender, Lord, Her hurts hurt more than mine. 
She's young, and thinks the sun will never shine. 
Just yesterday, she laughed, and walked in clover... 
Teach her tomorrow is for starting over. 
-- Author: Helene Lewis Coffer 

Julie, I hope you find some comfort from the words
that everyone has written.  It's wonderful that you
were able to be with Mandy when she passed; I know she
wasn't as scared because you were there.  That is my
one wish for Cricket if he doesn't make it.  I don't
want him to be alone.  

You will get through this Julie.
:)
Wendy



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Re: ImmunoRegulin/Cricket

2005-10-27 Thread wendy
Hi Belinda,

Cricket isn't feral, but he sure does act like it
sometimes.  He gets crazy if anyone tries to do
anything to him at the vet.  Since he was so anemic,
it was less stressful on him to sedate him.  I did
find a vet who will administer the ImmunoRegulin that
I bought as soon as it gets here.  I just don't know
what dosage to give him.  The vet said he would look
up the dosage, but I am a little weary about vets
anyway, and like to find the information out before I
do things so I'm not caught off guard or know if
something doesn't sound right.  I hope we have enough
time.  Cricket's labs came back with a hemocrit of 7%,
which is pretty bad, and he didn't look so well this
morning.  So I am just trying to get through the day
at work so I can get home to him.  I wish it were
Friday.  The vet didn't sound very encouraging after
looking at his labs. He also had one eye dilated this
morning so I don't know what in the world that means. 
I just hope if he goes that I am home with him.  Has
anyone had a cat die of anemia at home while you were
there?  Is it painful?  I don't want to take him to
the vet if I don't have to because he hates going to
the vet.  Thanks.

Hanging on to hope-
Wendy




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Re: Here's where to go to see the SC kitty pix!

2005-10-27 Thread wendy
I loved the pictures; they are all beautiful cats!  I
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Re: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread Nina








Oh Julie, I'm so sorry you've lost your sweet Mandy. We do all know
how
excruciatingly difficult that empty space left by our loved ones is to
bear. How the things they were so much a part of, like reading and
fixing
meals, even the time of day when we'd give them their meds is difficult
to get through. When I lost Grace, it took me so long to clear her
remedies from the fridge. The finality, (at least on this plane), is
so hard to face. It's seems especially hard when we've spent so much
of our
energy, love and
time doting on them, caring for them, struggling against all odds to
find answers that will help them stay, just a little bit longer. No
matter how we lose them, their absence is like an open wound. Time is
not the only element that is
necessary to help you and your family to heal, but no matter how
difficult the processes, no
matter how long it takes, it will begin to heal. We are still here,
there are others that need us, we have no choice but to move on. We
keep our Angels in our thoughts, and in our hearts, they never really
leave
us. Even though the wound does heal, our lives are never the same,
they've left their mark on our hearts with their love. Someday, you'll
run your finger against that
scar and even if you
continue to shed tears, they'll be accompanied by a smile. I believe
that day is a happy one for our lost loved ones. The day when we can
look back over the memories with more gratitude than grief, with
more joy than pain, the day when we can forgive ourselves for not
having the power to make them 'all better', is a glorious day for our
babies in spirit. 

You've sent me so many hugs. Now, I'm sending them to you. Please
know you and your husband, Mandy and Wink and all your babies are in my
thoughts and prayers. I'm so sorry for your sorrow. You are not
alone, we do all understand. Think of yourself surrounded in love,
because you are.

Add our tears to yours until the pain is finally washed clean, much
love to you,
Nina  

Julie Johnson wrote:

  Dear Friends,
  
  Mandy is gone. She was not doing well Tuesday night (bleeding
from the mouth and unable to eat) and I made the decision to end her
suffering. I called my husband and he left work right away to come
home. We held her and stroked her and ultimately she began to purr.
She never cared to be held; she liked to pick the spot and sit ON you,
but she did curl up in her blanket and let us hold her. We were with
her and holding her and talking softly to her and she had one paw
curled over my finger when she left us.
  
  It's been so empty the last two nights without my little reading
partner; she always liked to sit on the bed with her upper body across
my arm and her paws on my shoulder while I read at night. Since she
became sick, she wanted to be with me all the time and she'd been
reading with me every night for weeks.
  
  I keep thinking back to our trip to the oncologist; only last
week and it seems forever ago. Even though the news for Mandy was not
good, we had a lovely day and I am so grateful for it. She and
Winksnoozed the whole way home. They were all curled up together on
their faux mink and listening to their special pet music. I kept
turning back to look at them and it was so peaceful and loving. We
stopped where I work to feed my feral colony and I took the carrier out
of the car and set it on the ground while I fed; Mandy trotted right to
the front and began to "meow" to Depot Charlie! She was such a little
talker and he looked so puzzled! I'm happy they were able to "meet".
  
  Thank you all for being here and for your good thoughts and
wishes; I'd be completely lost without you during this year of terrible
losses. I have to try and concentrate on how fortunate we were to have
shared her short life. I miss her; we had our morning routine of
putting the ingredients in the food processor and she'd "talk" to me
once the whirr of the blade sounded. These last two mornings have been
empty, as well. You are the only ones who understand the huge hole in
our home despite the joy of our other cats.
  
  Love, Julie
  
  
"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is
to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " 
  
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged 
by the way its animals are treated."
  
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RE: Wendy/ImmunoRegulin/Cricket

2005-10-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Wendy, my heart goes out to you and Cricket. I am so sorry.
I'm emailing you an IR package in the next few minutes---it's a
compilation of relevant emails that I put together after I lost Flavia
to severe non-regenerative anemia in July. It details the choice of
protocols for using.
I wish you and Cricket the best.
hugs, Kerry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: ImmunoRegulin/Cricket


Hi Belinda,

Cricket isn't feral, but he sure does act like it
sometimes.  He gets crazy if anyone tries to do
anything to him at the vet.  Since he was so anemic,
it was less stressful on him to sedate him.  I did
find a vet who will administer the ImmunoRegulin that
I bought as soon as it gets here.  I just don't know
what dosage to give him.  The vet said he would look
up the dosage, but I am a little weary about vets
anyway, and like to find the information out before I
do things so I'm not caught off guard or know if
something doesn't sound right.  I hope we have enough
time.  Cricket's labs came back with a hemocrit of 7%,
which is pretty bad, and he didn't look so well this
morning.  So I am just trying to get through the day
at work so I can get home to him.  I wish it were
Friday.  The vet didn't sound very encouraging after
looking at his labs. He also had one eye dilated this
morning so I don't know what in the world that means. 
I just hope if he goes that I am home with him.  Has
anyone had a cat die of anemia at home while you were
there?  Is it painful?  I don't want to take him to
the vet if I don't have to because he hates going to
the vet.  Thanks.

Hanging on to hope-
Wendy




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Re: My Beautiful Mandy and Julie

2005-10-27 Thread Barb Moermond
Oh Julie,
I'm sending all the GLOW at my disposal to you and Jazzy... Lighting his path to the Bridge and easing your heartache. Your description of him under the covers with you reminds me of my Bandit; he's my sleepin buddy, on my hip or under the covers:). Praying that Jazzy's journey is smooth and peaceful and with you by his side to see him off. Our thoughts and love are with you both...

HUGS

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Dearest Julie,

 My heart goes out to you and your husband, I'm so terribly sorry for your loss. My name is also Julie. I discovered this group last weekend, after getting the devasting news that my beloved cat Jazzer is sick with FeLV. I haven't had the heart to post anything yet, but I've followed everyone's comments and especially yours because our situations so closely echo each other. Jazzy started going downhill two weeks ago, and after taking him to the vet twice, they finally made the diagnosis on Saturday. I have cried my heart out since that time, but am trying to put on a brave face for Jazzy's sake. The vet suggested putting him to sleep, but I just couldn't bear the thought of that. I've brought him home now, and he spends most of his time in a cardboard box in the bedroom closet, where he seems to be fairly content. He's still purring softly when I pet him, but shows no interest in food and not much more in drinking water. The vet
 prescribed Prednisone for him to try and stimulate his appetite. He fought us tooth and claw with the pills - he hates getting things crammed down his throat (I can't blame him - he's always been such an independent kitty) and we tried a liquid suspension formula with no luck either. I decided last night to stop the treatment because it doesn't seem to be helping much, if at all. It was breaking my heart to see him struggle so, and when I'd go into cuddle him, he'd sort of cringe away from me - I don't want him to spend the little time he has left with me being scared. Part of me really can't believe this is happening - I'm not ready to let my Jazzy cat go. He's been my greatest love for the past 11 years, my confidante, my friend and a part of my soul. I go to bed at night, and I keep expecting him to jump up and nudge my face like he does in the middle of the night, to let him under the covers. He's slept with me faithfully every night for years and I'm so used to falling asleep
 with his soft little purr in my ear and his warmth against my body. My heart is absolutely breaking apart...I want to thank you all for this support group - after reading all your posts, I can't think of a more supportive, warm, caring group of people. Even behind the scenes, you have all been a source of comfort to me, knowing that there are other people in this world who are feeling and coping with the same things that I am right now. God bless you all, keep your kitties safe and loved, give them tons of hugs and velvet paw kisses, and please, please, pray for my little Jazzy cat. Love to all, JulieBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous
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RE: Wendy/ImmunoRegulin/Cricket

2005-10-27 Thread wendy
Thank you so much Kerry; I can't seem to get enough
information right now.  And I'm feeling pretty
desperate and tired, but probably not more so than
Cricket.  I appreciate and look forward to receiving
the package.  Maybe something in there will be
lifesaving for him, or give him more time to live
healthily and happily.  Thanks for the hugs.  :( Wendy




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for Wendy: ImmunoRegulin/Cricket

2005-10-27 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: for Wendy: ImmunoRegulin/Cricket






Hello Wendy, 

One of our very experienced members, Michelle L., highly recommended Immuno regulin (IR) to me, when my Flavia began to succumb to nonregenerative anemia. 

While I haven't yet had time to organise the following into one coherent report--it's a number of emails rolled into one--I think it does contain some very useful info and contact details.

Sending lots of healing vibes to your little Cricket. Please keep us posted when you have time.

Kerry 

IR INFO:

Revival's tel no is 800 786 4751. (Revival is the supplier I used.)

While I sadly did not order the Immuno regulin in time to be able to use it, the Revival people were good to deal with and the IR arrived at both vet clinics that I had it sent directly to when it was supposed to (ie overnighted by Fedex). I had never ordered it before and neither vet had ever used it but they were both very positive about doing so and liaised with me about the protocol/how much to use---it comes with directions in any case (although I haven't seen those because it's at the clinics). 

At least I now have it on hand should Mickey (or the NJ FeLV kitty I will be getting soon) need it. 

Here's also a copy of the relevant excerpts of what I emailed to Dr Dodin who was going to be administering the IR

Dear Dr Dodin 

Here are the 3 articles that give background on Immunoregulin for FeLV cats. 

(It is given by IV.) I placed an order with Revival Animal Health this morning for 5ml of ImmunoregulinEqstim, and it will be shipped today, overnighted to Abell, marked for your attention, so should be there tomorrow (Wednesday). It will come in a Polar box, and will need refrigeration when it arrives. 

(They said a cat of 8lb is administered between 0.25 and 0.5 ml each time.) 

There appear to be 2 possible protocols--4 times in first 2 weeks, then once a week till stabilized, then monthly recommended thereafter for maintenance; OR once a week. Please let me know what you think is best for Flavia once you've had a chance to consider. 

THE ARTICLES: 

http://www.felineleukemia.org/ireginfo.html 

http://www.felineleukemia.org/opinion.html 

http://www.felineleukemia.org/hope.html 

This archived site is also worth looking at--an email from a web list member, Kyle, who had researched and used IR.

http://www.mail-archive.com/felvtalk@felineleukemia.org/msg01946.html. 

Many thanks again, 

Kerry M. 





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Re: My Beautiful Mandy and Julie

2005-10-27 Thread Nina

Hi Julie,
I too had a felv+ named Jazzy.  The picture you paint of your life 
shared with Jazz brought tears to my eyes.  You are so blessed to have 
found such a wonderful soul mate to share your love.  What a wonderful 
little man he is! 

I'm not clear about what is going on with Jazz.  The vet you brought him 
too does not sound like he is qualified to help.  He may be a wonderful 
vet for most things, but when it comes to dealing with the complications 
of felv you need a specialist.  I understand that there sometimes comes 
a time when the decision is made to allow our babies to pass, but if you 
haven't come to that point, if you are still looking for answers that 
may help Jazz, you need to see a specialist.  Find a board certified 
Internist and beg them to see Jazzy asap.  You can ask your vet to refer 
you to one, or you could call the emergency clinic in your area and find 
out who they recommend.  Whatever you decide, you need to find someone 
that is willing to diagnose whatever is going on with Jazz and help you 
decide what the best course of action should be.  You said you've been 
reading the posts, you must realize by now that our Angels don't die 
from felv itself, they succumb to other illnesses and cancers because 
their immune systems are weakened as a condition of the felv.  Many 
times they can be helped to get better.  You need to move on this 
quickly though, time is of the essence.  Whatever you decide to do, 
thank you for posting about the mutual love you share with your very 
special Jazzier man.  It always warms my heart to know there are others 
out there that also share such a deep interspecies bond. 


Julie, you are not alone, we all understand,
I'm praying for answers and many more loving hours for you and your Jazz
Nina



Matchett wrote:


Dearest Julie,
 
My heart goes out to you and your husband, I'm so terribly sorry 
for your loss. My name is also Julie. I discovered this group last 
weekend, after getting the devasting news that my beloved cat Jazzer 
is sick with FeLV. I haven't had the heart to post anything yet, but 
I've followed everyone's comments and especially yours because our 
situations so closely echo each other. Jazzy started going downhill 
two weeks ago, and after taking him to the vet twice, they finally 
made the diagnosis on Saturday. I have cried my heart out since that 
time, but am trying to put on a brave face for Jazzy's sake. The vet 
suggested putting him to sleep, but I just couldn't bear the thought 
of that. I've brought him home now, and he spends most of his time in 
a cardboard box in the bedroom closet, where he seems to be fairly 
content. He's still purring softly when I pet him, but shows no 
interest in food and not much more in drinking water. The vet 
prescribed Prednisone for him to try and stimulate his appetite. He 
fought us tooth and claw with the pills - he hates getting things 
crammed down his throat (I can't blame him - he's always been such an 
independent kitty) and we tried a liquid suspension formula with no 
luck either. I decided last night to stop the treatment because it 
doesn't seem to be helping much, if at all. It was breaking my heart 
to see him struggle so, and when I'd go into cuddle him, he'd sort of 
cringe away from me - I don't want him to spend the little time he has 
left with me being scared. Part of me really can't believe this is 
happening - I'm not ready to let my Jazzy cat go. He's been my 
greatest love for the past 11 years, my confidante, my friend and a 
part of my soul. I go to bed at night, and I keep expecting him to 
jump up and nudge my face like he does in the middle of the night, to 
let him under the covers. He's slept with me faithfully every night 
for years and I'm so used to falling asleep with his soft little purr 
in my ear and his warmth against my body. My heart is absolutely 
breaking apart...I want to thank you all for this support group - 
after reading all your posts, I can't think of a more supportive, 
warm, caring group of people. Even behind the scenes, you have all 
been a source of comfort to me, knowing that there are other people in 
this world who are feeling and coping with the same things that I am 
right now. God bless you all, keep your kitties safe and loved, give 
them tons of hugs and velvet paw kisses, and please, please, pray for 
my little Jazzy cat. Love to all, Julie






Re: for Wendy: ImmunoRegulin/Cricket

2005-10-27 Thread wendy
Thank Kerry-I printed the info. off and will take it
to the vet's tomorrow.  I pray that Cricket is better
today and will be responsive to the IR.  God bless
you.  Wendy




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Re: Wendy/ImmunoRegulin/Cricket

2005-10-27 Thread Nina

Wendy,
Did you read the post from another new member about using Immuno Regulin 
subq?  This is not the first time I've read about it being used this 
way.  I came across it when I was doing research on the internet about 
it.  I'll do my best to find it again so you can read about it 
yourself.  If I were in your position, I think I would be pursuing it.  
If there is a chance for the IR to work subq, so much less invasive than 
IV, so much less stressful for a guy like Cricket, I'd give it a shot.  
You can do the subq shots at home, he wouldn't have to spend time away 
from you at the hospital.  It might just be the answer to save his life, 
but like I just told Julie and Jazz, you have to hurry.  I can't believe 
your vet sent you home with Cricket in the shape he's in.  Find yourself 
an Internist that's willing to, or better yet, has experience with IR 
and felv kitties.  Oh honey, I'm praying for the two of you!

Nina

wendy wrote:


Thank you so much Kerry; I can't seem to get enough
information right now.  And I'm feeling pretty
desperate and tired, but probably not more so than
Cricket.  I appreciate and look forward to receiving
the package.  Maybe something in there will be
lifesaving for him, or give him more time to live
healthily and happily.  Thanks for the hugs.  :( Wendy




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Re: My Beautiful Mandy and Julie

2005-10-27 Thread wendy
Julie,

I'm glad you found this site.  It has been a God-send
for me in the past week while my cat Cricket is sick. 
Cricket is doing much like your Jazzy; lying in our
bedroom in a corner behind a plant.  I think they may
be twins the way you describe Jazzy: fighting the
pills, purring softly, disinterested in food/water. 
I'm not ready to let Cricket go yet and since he has
been up and down for the past ten+ days, I am still
holding out hope.  I know you've probably read the
posts on ImmunoRegulin.  I will let you know asap how
Cricket fares with the injections.  His hemocrit is
horribly low.  The post before mine about seeing a
specialist might help you put your mind at ease.  At
least you'll know exactly what your treatment options
are for Jazzy.  I'm weighing a blood transfusion right
now, but it's so expensive and may only prolong his
life a little.  It's horrible when someone you love
wastes away in front of your eyes.  Cricket has been a
source of my laughter for the past 4 and a half years.
 He is a unique cat.  He likes riding in the car and
getting into the shower with me.  Maybe he thinks he's
a dog.  lol.  I understand your heartache and am
sending prayers and peace to Jazzy and you.  

:)
Wendy





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Re: Wendy/ImmunoRegulin/Cricket

2005-10-27 Thread wendy
Thank you for your prayers Nina.  And the info.  I am
not sure how Cricket will respond to the needle
tomorrow, but if it's more effective than subQ, I'd
rather go that route.  I promised Cricket after his
last harrowing visit to the vet two years ago that I
would never leave him again and I won't.  He almost
died then; if I wouldn't have taken him home and cared
for him round the clock like I did he would probably
have been gone in another half day.  I know he would
rather be at home.  I would never forgive myself if he
passed away while at the vets without me there.  I had
a hard time with the guilt two years ago, although I
had no idea that he wasn't being cared for properly.

:)
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CRICKET NEEDS A TRANSFUSION

2005-10-27 Thread Lernermichelle




Wendy,
 A hematocrit of 7 is almost at the point of death and well 
beyond the point of maybe needing a transfusion. A transfusion may not save him 
at this point, but he will definitely die without one. He needs one today if you 
are going to try anymore therapies or he will not be strong enough to last until 
they work.
Michelle

In a message dated 10/27/2005 1:09:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi 
  Belinda,Cricket isn't feral, but he sure does act like 
  itsometimes. He gets crazy if anyone tries to doanything to him 
  at the vet. Since he was so anemic,it was less stressful on him to 
  sedate him. I didfind a vet who will administer the ImmunoRegulin 
  thatI bought as soon as it gets here. I just don't knowwhat 
  dosage to give him. The vet said he would lookup the dosage, but I 
  am a little weary about vetsanyway, and like to find the information out 
  before Ido things so I'm not caught off guard or know ifsomething 
  doesn't sound right. I hope we have enoughtime. Cricket's labs 
  came back with a hemocrit of 7%,which is pretty bad, and he didn't look so 
  well thismorning. So I am just trying to get through the dayat 
  work so I can get home to him. I wish it wereFriday. The vet 
  didn't sound very encouraging afterlooking at his labs. He also had one 
  eye dilated thismorning so I don't know what in the world that means. 
  I just hope if he goes that I am home with him. Hasanyone had a 
  cat die of anemia at home while you werethere? Is it painful? 
  I don't want to take him tothe vet if I don't have to because he hates 
  going tothe vet. Thanks.Hanging on to 
  hope-Wendy




RE: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Dearest Julie and Mandy-

I am so very sorry that Mandy has passed.
It physically hurts to think how much you are missing Mandy. I know how much
Mandy means to you like everyone on the list, we know exactly how
painful and empty it feels to lose our babies.



Julie, it might not seem like it is.. but
Mandys souls is still right besides you.. She is no longer in pain, and
she is probably feeling much better about everything.. or at least thats
what I heard whenever I talked to the ones passed when I talked to them via my
AC  they all tell me  dont think this is an absolute end..
but rather beginning to something better and dont think that we
can never talk.. because we can just because we cant see them.. it
does not mean they are there for you.. 



Hideyo











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005
12:18 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: My Beautiful Mandy





Oh Julie, I'm so sorry you've lost your sweet
Mandy. We do all know how excruciatingly difficult that empty space left
by our loved ones is to bear. How the things they were so much a part of,
like reading and fixing meals, even the time of day when we'd give them their
meds is difficult to get through. When I lost Grace, it took me so long
to clear her remedies from the fridge. The finality, (at least on this
plane), is so hard to face. It's seems especially hard when we've spent
so much of our energy, love and time doting on them, caring for them,
struggling against all odds to find answers that will help them stay, just a
little bit longer. No matter how we lose them, their absence is like an
open wound. Time is not the only element that is necessary to help you
and your family to heal, but no matter how difficult the processes, no matter
how long it takes, it will begin to heal. We are still here, there are
others that need us, we have no choice but to move on. We keep our Angels
in our thoughts, and in our hearts, they never really leave us. Even
though the wound does heal, our lives are never the same, they've left their
mark on our hearts with their love. Someday, you'll run your finger
against that scar and even if you continue to shed tears, they'll be
accompanied by a smile. I believe that day is a happy one for our lost
loved ones. The day when we can look back over the memories with more
gratitude than grief, with more joy than pain, the day when we can forgive
ourselves for not having the power to make them 'all better', is a glorious day
for our babies in spirit. 

You've sent me so many hugs. Now, I'm sending them to you. Please
know you and your husband, Mandy and Wink and all your babies are in my
thoughts and prayers. I'm so sorry for your sorrow. You are not
alone, we do all understand. Think of yourself surrounded in love,
because you are.

Add our tears to yours until the pain is finally washed clean, much love to
you,
Nina  

Julie Johnson wrote:





Dear Friends,











Mandy is gone. She was not doing well Tuesday
night (bleeding from the mouth and unable to eat) and I made the decision to
end her suffering. I called my husband and he left work right away to
come home. We held her and stroked her and ultimately she began to
purr. She never cared to be held; she liked to pick the spot and sit ON
you, but she did curl up in her blanket and let us hold her. We were with
her and holding her and talking softly to her and she had one paw curled over
my finger when she left us.











It's been so empty the last two nights without my
little reading partner; she always liked to sit on the bed with her upper body
across my arm and her paws on my shoulder while I read at night. Since
she became sick, she wanted to be with me all the time and she'd been reading
with me every night for weeks.











I keep thinking back to our trip to the oncologist;
only last week and it seems forever ago. Even though the news for Mandy
was not good, we had a lovely day and I am so grateful for it. She and
Winksnoozed the whole way home. They were all curled up together on
their faux mink and listening to their special pet music. I kept turning
back to look at them and it was so peaceful and loving. We stopped where
I work to feed my feral colony and I took the carrier out of the car and set it
on the ground while I fed; Mandy trotted right to the front and began to
meow to Depot Charlie! She was such a little talker and he
looked so puzzled! I'm happy they were able to meet.











Thank you all for being here and for your good
thoughts and wishes; I'd be completely lost without you during this year of
terrible losses. I have to try and concentrate on how fortunate we were
to have shared her short life. I miss her; we had our morning routine of
putting the ingredients in the food processor and she'd talk to me
once the whirr of the blade sounded. These last two mornings have been
empty, as well. You are the only ones who understand the huge hole 

Re: CRICKET NEEDS A TRANSFUSION

2005-10-27 Thread Belinda Sauro

Hi Wendy,
  I'm afraid Michelle is right, my Frankie's Hemocrit was 6 when I lost 
him, I would definately get a transfusion to boost his hemocrit and 
hopefully give him the strength to get the full benefit from the 
immunoregalin!!


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Re: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread Terri Brown




How sad! I'm so sorry you lost her, but I know that you loved her, 
and she is at peace now. It's never easy when it's time to let them 
go. Big hugs to you.

Goodnight, sweet Mandy...

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Julie Johnson 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:02 
  AM
  Subject: My Beautiful Mandy
  
  Dear Friends,
  
  Mandy is gone. She was not doing well Tuesday night (bleeding from 
  the mouth and unable to eat) and I made the decision to end her 
  suffering. I called my husband and he left work right away to come 
  home. We held her and stroked her and ultimately she began to 
  purr. She never cared to be held; she liked to pick the spot and sit ON 
  you, but she did curl up in her blanket and let us hold her. We were 
  with her and holding her and talking softly to her and she had one paw curled 
  over my finger when she left us.
  
  It's been so empty the last two nights without my little reading partner; 
  she always liked to sit on the bed with her upper body across my arm and her 
  paws on my shoulder while I read at night. Since she became sick, she 
  wanted to be with me all the time and she'd been reading with me every night 
  for weeks.
  
  I keep thinking back to our trip to the oncologist; only last week and it 
  seems forever ago. Even though the news for Mandy was not good, we had a 
  lovely day and I am so grateful for it. She and Winksnoozed the 
  whole way home. They were all curled up together on their faux mink and 
  listening to their special pet music. I kept turning back to look at 
  them and it was so peaceful and loving. We stopped where I work to feed 
  my feral colony and I took the carrier out of the car and set it on the ground 
  while I fed; Mandy trotted right to the front and began to "meow" to Depot 
  Charlie! She was such a little talker and he looked so puzzled! 
  I'm happy they were able to "meet".
  
  Thank you all for being here and for your good thoughts and wishes; I'd 
  be completely lost without you during this year of terrible losses. I 
  have to try and concentrate on how fortunate we were to have shared her short 
  life. I miss her; we had our morning routine of putting the ingredients 
  in the food processor and she'd "talk" to me once the whirr of the blade 
  sounded. These last two mornings have been empty, as well. You are 
  the only ones who understand the huge hole in our home despite the joy of our 
  other cats.
  
  Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the 
  more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " 
  "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by 
  the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi 
  (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about 
  de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. 
  
  
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Re: fever....how to break

2005-10-27 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



ok and what herbs are you giving for fever. The sub q breaks the fever but 
goes up again till about 103.5 which is not that bad. I wasn't using antibiotics 
but I got real scared of losing her at one point and the vet said to start 
clavamox even though it was viral cause she didn't want secondary infection 
setting in. She is still not eating I may have to resort to liver 
shake.
its been about 3 days in this condition


RE: fever....how to break

2005-10-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Well  if she is not eating, its
a different story.. do you also assist-feed her?

Whats her personality like? Is she
affectionate or stand offish?











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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005
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Subject: Re: feverhow to break







ok and what herbs are you giving for
fever. The sub q breaks the fever but goes up again till about 103.5 which is
not that bad. I wasn't using antibiotics but I got real scared of losing her at
one point and the vet said to start clavamox even though it was viral cause she
didn't want secondary infection setting in. She is still not eating I may have
to resort to liver shake.





its been about 3 days in this condition










Re: fever....how to break

2005-10-27 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



She is a very high strung PB siamese rescue cat. She is being syringe fed 
and would fight it if she was strong enough. She was very healthy tested neg on 
both fully vetted and had run of my bedroom not caged. but no not affectionate. 
Loves any kittens and the pups too


RE: fever....how to break

2005-10-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








So is she positive or negative on FeLV? 
I am sorry I might have missed your previous email.



Try Sulphur
first -











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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005
3:37 PM
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Subject: Re: feverhow to break







She is a very high strung PB siamese
rescue cat. She is being syringe fed and would fight it if she was strong
enough. She was very healthy tested neg on both fully vetted and had run of my
bedroom not caged. but no not affectionate. Loves any kittens and the pups too










Re: fever....how to break

2005-10-27 Thread Lernermichelle



If you don't have it, go out and buy Nutrical or something like it and 
smear globs of it on her paws and see if she licks it off. Definitely try 
the liver shake, also sour cream and deli slices from a deli of turkey, ham, and 
roast beef. 
Michelle


RE: fever....how to break

2005-10-27 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Also, Nina suggested goat milk, too.

I also try baby food (meat only kind) 
cottage cheese, cream cheesesteak.salmon can..











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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005
3:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: feverhow to break







If you don't have it, go out and buy
Nutrical or something like it and smear globs of it on her paws and see if she
licks it off. Definitely try the liver shake, also sour cream and deli
slices from a deli of turkey, ham, and roast beef. 





Michelle










Re: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread felv



I'm so sorry for your loss Julie. Even when we know it's coming, it's still 
so hard to let them go. May you find peace.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt 
a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a 
FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.htmlAdopt a 
FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html"Saving 
one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of 
difference for that one 
animal."~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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Re: Should I spay Ginger?

2005-10-27 Thread felv
I have scheduled Bone's spay for Halloween day. She gets dropped off Sunday 
morning,
and I pick her up Tuesday afternoon. I hope everything goes well... I'm taking 
her to
the good vet, and paying their high fee ($140) when I could have taken her to 
the
clinic for only $40. I think they will give her the extra special handling she
requires... I don't trust the low cost clinic to be careful enough The vet 
I'm
taking her to includes 3 days board and monitoring, and a pain patch for that 
price,
plus I have made sure they know to place her on towels, and to be careful with 
her
back. They have told me they will not stretch her out as usual, and will be 
extra
careful in how they handle her.

Jenn
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
Adopt a FIV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/
http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html
Adopt a FELV+ cat:
http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html
Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a 
world of
difference for that one animal.
~~~
I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must
live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.
Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up 
until she
earns a free can of formula!
PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you 
can send
them to, to help feed Bazil!



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Re: fever....how to break

2005-10-27 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



tested for both...negative very strange. every cat I took to petsmart 
that weekend got it but Bianca's experience is near death the other got sniffles 
and watery eyes.


Re: My Beautiful Mandy and Julie

2005-10-27 Thread maimaipg



You are right not to force him and frighten him--all it 
does is cause extra stress. Have you tried an alternative vet? I 
urge you to think about it. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Barb 
  Moermond 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:26 
  PM
  Subject: Re: My Beautiful Mandy and 
  Julie
  
  Oh Julie,
  I'm sending all the GLOW at my disposal to you and Jazzy... 
  Lighting his path to the Bridge and easing your heartache. Your 
  description of him under the covers with you reminds me of my Bandit; he's my 
  sleepin buddy, on my hip or under the covers:). Praying that Jazzy's 
  journey is smooth and peaceful and with you by his side to see him off. 
  Our thoughts and love are with you both...
  
  HUGS
  
  PS, good to meet you, but so very sorry about why you had to find 
  usMatchett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  



Dearest Julie,

 My heart goes out to you and 
your husband, I'm so terribly sorry for your loss. My name is also Julie. I 
discovered this group last weekend, after getting the devasting news that my 
beloved cat Jazzer is sick with FeLV. I haven't had the heart to post 
anything yet, but I've followed everyone's comments and especially yours 
because our situations so closely echo each other. Jazzy started going 
downhill two weeks ago, and after taking him to the vet twice, they finally 
made the diagnosis on Saturday. I have cried my heart out since that time, 
but am trying to put on a brave face for Jazzy's sake. The vet suggested 
putting him to sleep, but I just couldn't bear the thought of that. I've 
brought him home now, and he spends most of his time in a cardboard box in 
the bedroom closet, where he seems to be fairly content. He's still purring 
softly when I pet him, but shows no interest in food and not much more in 
drinking water. The vet prescribed Prednisone for him to try and stimulate 
his appetite. He fought us tooth and claw with the pills - he hates getting 
things crammed down his throat (I can't blame him - he's always been such an 
independent kitty) and we tried a liquid suspension formula with no luck 
either. I decided last night to stop the treatment because it doesn't seem 
to be helping much, if at all. It was breaking my heart to see him struggle 
so, and when I'd go into cuddle him, he'd sort of cringe away from me - I 
don't want him to spend the little time he has left with me being scared. 
Part of me really can't believe this is happening - I'm not ready to let my 
Jazzy cat go. He's been my greatest love for the past 11 years, my 
confidante, my friend and a part of my soul. I go to bed at night, and I 
keep expecting him to jump up and nudge my face like he does in the middle 
of the night, to let him under the covers. He's slept with me faithfully 
every night for years and I'm so used to falling asleep with his soft little 
purr in my ear and his warmth against my body. My heart is absolutely 
breaking apart...I want to thank you all for this support group - after 
reading all your posts, I can't think of a more supportive, warm, caring 
group of people. Even behind the scenes, you have all been a source of 
comfort to me, knowing that there are other people in this world who are 
feeling and coping with the same things that I am right now. God bless you 
all, keep your kitties safe and loved, give them tons of hugs and velvet paw 
kisses, and please, please, pray for my little Jazzy cat. Love to all, 
JulieBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito 
  Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. 
  Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - 
  Anonymous
  
  
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Re: fever....how to break

2005-10-27 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



tired the nutra cal...tried baby food and canned 
mackrel


Re: fever....how to break

2005-10-27 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



My vet finally mixed the interferon and will be getting it 
tomorrow.


Re: fever....how to break

2005-10-27 Thread gblane
My experience with Lancelot, this last week, is that he gradually got 
better from the URI that has plagued him for months.  I've dont lots of 
stuff.  I usually expect to see dramatic results.  It hasn't been that 
way.  He was a little better the 1st day, then a little more the 2nd day, 
etc.  A gradual consistent improvement.


Gloria

At 07:00 PM 10/27/2005, you wrote:

My vet finally mixed the interferon and will be getting it tomorrow.





Re: fever....how to break

2005-10-27 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



6 months? only a highly contagious uri that could damage a rescue severly. 

of course she and the kittens is isolated but nothing leaves or comes in 
till its over.
so I am basiclly shut down


Re: My Beautiful Mandy

2005-10-27 Thread Sheila208
Dear Julie, I am so sorry for your loss. We all know the pain you are experiencing right now, it seems as if your heart truly has broken. I wish there was something I could say to make you feel better, but only time will do that. I lost my little Mandy last December to felv and some days it seems as if it was only yesterday. You'll be in my prayers. 
 
Sheila in SC