Re: New member, :-(
Hi Beth, I'm sorry to hear about your situation, though I think it's great that you took the time to take care of the little ones. You've certainly come to the right place for thoughts on what's going on. There are a number of rescuers on the list who will have good advice for you (and they'll do much better than I could). I will say that it seems unlikely that Blue would have picked up FeLV from the less-than- intimate contact with the kittens. If Blue is over a year and a half old, and is healthy, I seriously doubt she would contract the disease and remain positive. Even if she's younger than that and not in great health, it sounds like she didn't have any close interaction with the kittens. That's my lay-person's opinion. I hope you're able to find homes for the kittens. Lance
Ember and diarrhea
Unfortunately, it seems like Ember still is having digestive problems. On Thursday, the vet gave her the injection (of what, I'm unsure), and I gave her a Centrine pill the next day. For Friday and Saturday, she seemed to eat and drink fairly normally. No BMs in the box until Sunday, however, and it seemed that the first visit to the box yielded loose stool, while the second was definitely diarrhea. She still has an appetite, and I believe she's been drinking water normally. She wouldn't touch the soft Felidae I had out earlier, but just an hour ago, she ate some dry Innova EVO. I gave her another Centrine pill, and have picked up the wet food, leaving out only the dry and her water. Earlier on Sunday, I did give her a very small bit of Kitty Kaviar. I gave her two treats of Kitty Kaviar on Wednesday. I'm wondering if she's having a problem with that? Ember has really enjoyed the KK when I've bought it before, though it may have caused one loose stool once. However, about a month ago, she managed to get into a can I had just opened, and ate virtually the entire can! I didn't see ANY problems after all of that, which I thought was strange. Anyway, she certainly won't be getting any for a long time. I apologize for giving such a blow-by-blow account. I haven't gotten any sleep, and I'm trying to decide what to do about work, since I took off two days last week when she was ill. The one promising thing is that she has not had the odd, listless behavior she had when this all started on Thursday. She's been behaving normally, so that would seem to be good. Oh, how I wish I could work at home! Sleepily, Lance
Kitten newly diagnosed
Hi, I adopted sisters, Lucy and Izzie, from a shelter at 4 months old. Without going into too much detail, they are now 7 months old and I have just learned that Lucy is positive. She is symptomatic, she had a high fever and URI in the beginning of May, went on antibiotics, but within a few days of being off the antibiotics she had a fever of 105.5, had difficulty walking, went from 5.9 pounds to 5.1 in a very short period of time, and was one depressed little kitty. She went on antibiotics last Monday and was diagnosed as positive that day. She has really perked up, she's gained most of the weight back, is running, jumping, and playing with Izzie, but the vet seems to think that as soon as she goes of the antibiotics she will most likely get sick again. I had Izzie tested and she is negative. After many discussions with three different vets I decided to keep them together as it seems most likely Izzie caught it and fought it already. I've made the decision that the quality of their life together is what's most important right now and hoping that Izzie stays negative. There seems to be a lot of conflicting pieces of information out there. Does Interferon work for kitties who are symptomatic? One of the vets suggested I just keep Lucy on antibiotics until they stopped working, he thought Interferon wouldn't help as she had advanced this far. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Maggie
Re: Kitten newly diagnosed
Hi, I took in a stray that was hanging around our house. His name is Smokey. He was probably around 7 or 8 months when he tested positive. This after he tested negative the first time. He kept on running high fevers. The vet would put him on antibiotics and the fever would go down only to return in a few days. That is why he was tested the second time. I ended up changing vets for Smokey. The new vet he has been going to started him on Equistim injections subq. He got an injection for 4 or 5 days in a row. Now he gets 2 injections a week. He hasn't gotten a fever in about 4 months now. The vet has talked about taking him off these injections to see how he does. I am getting ready to go on vacation and don't want to do anything like that until I get back. Smokey seems like a normal cat now. He is active and eats great. Equistim is immuno-regulin. Maybe it might be something to ask your vet about. I don't know if it will help your Lucy with her fevers but so far it has helped Smokey. Cindy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I adopted sisters, Lucy and Izzie, from a shelter at 4 months old. Without going into too much detail, they are now 7 months old and I have just learned that Lucy is positive. She is symptomatic, she had a high fever and URI in the beginning of May, went on antibiotics, but within a few days of being off the antibiotics she had a fever of 105.5, had difficulty walking, went from 5.9 pounds to 5.1 in a very short period of time, and was one depressed little kitty. She went on antibiotics last Monday and was diagnosed as positive that day. She has really perked up, she's gained most of the weight back, is running, jumping, and playing with Izzie, but the vet seems to think that as soon as she goes of the antibiotics she will most likely get sick again. I had Izzie tested and she is negative. After many discussions with three different vets I decided to keep them together as it seems most likely Izzie caught it and fought it already. I've made the decision that the quality of their life together is what's most important right now and hoping that Izzie stays negative. There seems to be a lot of conflicting pieces of information out there. Does Interferon work for kitties who are symptomatic? One of the vets suggested I just keep Lucy on antibiotics until they stopped working, he thought Interferon wouldn't help as she had advanced this far. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Maggie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Ember and diarrhea
Lance, I'm so sorry Ember is still having problems. I don't know enough to give suggestions, but I certainly do understand the dilima about work. I've sat up all night with some of my 'children' beforeand I know it's so hard to break away and go to work when you must. The normal behavior must bea positive sign. Please keep us posted - I hope she is much better soon and that you get some rest. elizabeth -Original Message-From: Lance [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 05:52:39 -0500Subject: Ember and diarrhea Unfortunately, it seems like Ember still is having digestive problems. On Thursday, the vet gave her the injection (of what, I'm unsure), and I gave her a Centrine pill the next day. For Friday and Saturday, she seemed to eat and drink fairly normally. No BMs in the box until Sunday, however, and it seemed that the first visit to the box yielded loose stool, while the second was definitely diarrhea. She still has an appetite, and I believe she's been drinking water normally. She wouldn't touch the soft Felidae I had out earlier, but just an hour ago, she ate some dry Innova EVO. I gave her another Centrine pill, and have picked up the wet food, leaving out only the dry and her water.Earlier on Sunday, I did give her a very small bit of Kitty Kaviar. I gave her two treats of Kitty Kaviar on Wednesday. I'm wondering if she's having a problem with that? Ember has really enjoyed the KK when I've bought it before, though it may have caused one loose stool once. However, about a month ago, she managed to get into a can I had just opened, and ate virtually the entire can! I didn't see ANY problems after all of that, which I thought was strange. Anyway, she certainly won't be getting any for a long time.I apologize for giving such a blow-by-blow account. I haven't gotten any sleep, and I'm trying to decide what to do about work, since I took off two days last week when she was ill. The one promising thing is that she has not had the odd, listless behavior she had when this all started on Thursday. She's been behaving normally, so that would seem to be good.Oh, how I wish I could work at home!Sleepily,Lance
Re: Kitten newly diagnosed
I definitely would NOT keep her on antibiotics once the infection has cleared. Continuous use of antibiotics destroys an immune system, leads to resistance making these sweeties far too susceptible to future infections. I highly recommend that you start her on Interferon, as well as a combination of vitamin/mineral supplements to boost her immune system. I have had FeLV positive cats in rescue that were much worse off than Lucy completely turn around and live asymptomatic without the need to for antibiotics. Please email me privately if you would like to know what my regimen is for FeLV cats. ~ Rachel Operation Foster Felixwww.operationfosterfelix.orgSharing Our Hearts, Homes Litter Boxes "If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: Kitten newly diagnosed Hi, I adopted sisters, Lucy and Izzie, from a shelter at 4 months old. Without going into too much detail, they are now 7 months old and I have just learned that Lucy is positive. She is symptomatic, she had a high fever and URI in the beginning of May, went on antibiotics, but within a few days of being off the antibiotics she had a fever of 105.5, had difficulty walking, went from 5.9 pounds to 5.1 in a very short period of time, and was one depressed little kitty. She went on antibiotics last Monday and was diagnosed as positive that day. She has really perked up, she's gained most of the weight back, is running, jumping, and playing with Izzie, but the vet seems to think that as soon as she goes of the antibiotics she will most likely get sick again. I had Izzie tested and she is negative. After many discussions with three different vets I decided to keep them together as it seems most likely Izzie caught it and fought it already. I've made the decision that the quality of their life together is what's most important right now and hoping that Izzie stays negative. There seems to be a lot of conflicting pieces of information out there. Does Interferon work for kitties who are symptomatic? One of the vets suggested I just keep Lucy on antibiotics until they stopped working, he thought Interferon wouldn't help as she had advanced this far. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Maggie
OT:Tator-- Need help urgently! Senior Siameses in Illinois
Hi all, Can someone help or know anyone that can help in this matter? They are too far for me to help. Many of you know I have a soft spot for senior meezers. Please contact Kim if you can her email addy is [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/5/2006 5:26:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Tator! Its Kim, here in Western Iowa. I have a situation and do to space Im unable to help out at this moment! I have a family in Illinois with 2 senior Siamese ages 15. Their owner is in the hospital with cancer and not expected to live. A family friend is trying her best to find homes for these two dear cats. They have offered to have them vetted and all vet care up to date before placing them into rescue. I hate to turn them away but I just dont have the space!! I have one senior coming in about 2 weeks time, and 2 mixes that I pick up tomorrow and possibly one male siamese in a day or so. Do you know of anyone that could help out in this situation!! Even if we can find a foster placement until I can get them into my rescue, or possibly another rescue that we can contact. I dont want to see these two dears put down just because of their age!Please get in touch soonKim and Meka Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
OT: Thought some of you could use a good story for Monday morning!
In a message dated 6/5/2006 8:22:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Tator Bunz writes: This is a story about a couple who had been happily married for years. The only friction in their marriage was the husband's habit of farting loudly every morning when he awoke. The noise would wake his wife and the smell would make her eyes water and make her gasp for air. Every morning she would plead with him to stop ripping them off because it was making her sick. He told her he couldn't stop it and that it was perfectly natural. She told him to see a doctor, she was concerned that one day he would blow his guts out. The years went by and he continued to rip massive morning farts. Then one Thanksgiving morning as she was preparing the turkey for dinner and he was upstairs sound asleep, she looked at the bowl where she had put the turkey innards and neck, gizzard, liver and all the spare parts and a malicious thought came to her. She took the bowl and went upstairs where her husband was sound asleep and, gently pulling back the bed covers, she pulled back the elastic waistband of his underpants and emptied the bowl of turkey guts into his shorts. Some time later she heard her husband waken with his usual trumpeting which was followed by a blood curdling scream and the sound of frantic footsteps as he ran into the bathroom. The wife could hardly control herself as she rolled on the floor laughing, tears in her eyes! After years of torture she reckoned she had got him back pretty good. About twenty minutes later, her husband came downstairs in his bloodstained underpants with a look of horror on his face. She bit her lip as she asked him what was the matter. He said, "Honey, you were right."! "All these years you have warned me and I didn't listen to you." "What do you mean?" asked his wife. "Well, you always told me that one day I would end up farting my guts out, and today it finally happened. But by the grace of God, some Vaseline and two fingers, I think I got most of them back in." Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: OT:Tator-- Need help urgently! Senior Siameses in Illinois
What about Purrever Ranch outside of Memphis - that might be close enough for a transport - they if they were to be moved after that it would be easier.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Can someone help or know anyone that can help in this matter? They are too far for me to help. Many of you know I have a soft spot for senior meezers. Please contact Kim if you can her email addy is [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/5/2006 5:26:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Tator! Its Kim, here in Western Iowa. I have a situation and do to space Im unable to help out at this moment! I have a family in Illinois with 2 senior Siamese ages 15. Their owner is in the hospital with cancer and not expected to live. A family friend is trying her best to find homes for these two dear cats. They have offered to have them vetted and all vet care up to date before placing them into rescue. I hate to turn them away but I just dont have the space!! I have one senior coming in about 2 weeks time, and 2 mixes that I pick up tomorrow and possibly one male siamese in a day or so. Do you know of anyone that could help out in this situation!! Even if we can find a foster placement until I can get them into my rescue, or possibly another rescue that we can contact. I dont want to see these two dears put down just because of their age!Please get in touch soonKim and Meka Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: New member, :-(
Hi Beth, I'm glad you found us too. Thank you so much for not being able to turn away from these cats! Please, please, please, stop beating yourself up for doing the best you could in a not so good situation. As Lance said, I highly doubt that you have put Blue in any danger. There are many misconceptions about felv, but one thing that most vets agree on is that there has to be prolonged physical contact to catch it. "When it dries, it dies", and it can't be contracted by simply being in the same environment, in other words, it isn't an airborne transmission. Many folks on the list mix negs and pos and it is very rare for a healthy adult neg cat to contract the disease, esp if they have been vaccinated. There are varying opinions on this, but if it were me, and your cat hasn't already been vaccinated, I'd test her and if she's neg, I'd get her vaccinated. My introduction to felv came when I rescued a litter of bottle babies. I didn't know they were pos at the time and they mixed with all my other cats. I had taken in a feral kitten and they accepted her and treated her like a litter mate. They ate, slept, groomed, played together, they shared litter boxes and food dishes. My little feral girl, Gypsy, never got felv and she was young and not vaccinated for it! False pos on kittens are common. I'm glad you've gotten the IFA test done. Please don't call yourself an idiot. Your a caring, loving person, just trying to do the right thing by these little angels. If Mom tested neg, I would release her back to her territory, are the kittens old enough to do okay without her? How is Alice doing? I hope she's feeling better. Give those babies a head bump from me. Hugs to you and your husband, it sounds like you have a good man there. Oh man, how I understand the financial problems and how hard it is to find the money to help these guys. My best wishes and prayers are with you, where there is a will, there is a way. Sending support and concern, Nina Gary Murphy wrote: Hi everyone, Happy to have found this list, but I so wish I didn't need to. Here's my story... A feral cat had 5 kittens in my in laws brush pile, she moved themafter I found them at 3 weeks old. I waited a few weeks and went looking for them again, figuring they could be weaned but were still small enough to catch. After a lot of work moving the wrong neighbor's huge, gigantic brush pile, I found them in the next yard over in a little, tiny brush pile in the woods. Called my husband to bring the cat carrier and we caught 3 relatively easily. The other two ducked into a rabbit? or woodchuck? hole, too deep to see them, and wouldn't come out. We set the live trap, caught the mom and one very sick little runt (Alice), then reset the trap. It took 2 more days to catch the last bugger, Dash. We put everyone but the sick one in a dog crate in a shady spot at my in laws,took the runt in to the vet, got her wormed, eye drops, antibiotics. She was only 14 oz, less than 1/2 the weight she should have been, and too sick and little to do a blood draw on. We made an appointment to have the Elisa test done in a week, and kept her in a crate in my in laws spare room. My mother-in-law hates cats, she is elderly andset in her ways, it was causing a lot of stress in the family, then we gotthree 94 degree days in a row and she wouldn't let me bring them in her house, so we brought the crate to my back yard (mistake #1)and set it up with a fan blowing on one sideuntil herappointment to get spayed (the humane society clinic had a 10 daybacklog for this). She had the surgery Wednesday, Elisa was negative, it was still stinking hot, so I brought her crate inside of our house (mistake #2), sequestered in a spare bedroom away from our resident FeLV neg. furbaby, Blue. I figured ifmom was neg., thekittens were probably negative (mistake #3), so I put them in a borrowed crate in our bedroom, but soon felt sorry for them and let them out to run around and play. Couldn't afford to take them in to the vetas well, figured we'd find homes for them and ask the adopters for a deposit to help get them started on vet care. Theyare twice the size of the runt,few sneezesonce in a while,butno discharge and they run around like crazy. Iwashed up and disinfectedafter caring for any cat and kept everyone separate, except for letting my cat peek in the kitten's door once (nobody came near her, she stayed outside and watched, but what an idiot I am.)Alice the runt was still atmy in-law's,we decidedto keep her,took herto veton Friday,gained 8oz. in a week, got her first vaccination while we waited for the test results. They were very busy, but she was so darling that the vet didn't want to leave her.Then we got her very positive results. I sobbed, the vet techand receptionistwere crying. I should get her IFA results back in a few days, but don't have much hope. The others get tested tomorrow,not sure what we will do, a rescue might find homes for1 or 2, but what if all
Re: Ember and diarrhea
Hi Lance, I'm sorry Ember is still having some problems. If she has a delicate digestive system, the best first course of action is to put her on one type of quality canned food, (see if you can find a single protein) and take her off the dry, (it's harder to digest). Stay away from grains and by products. If she likes the EVO, you could give her a few pieces of kibble as treats, but I know that my IBD girl, Gypsy, has relapses whenever she eats anything other than the turkey mush I make for her, (I'll send you the recipe off list, it's really helped her). Gypsy was very near death when I started feeding her a raw diet that saved her life. Unfortunately my little girl is very finicky and she started to refuse the raw. She's now doing very well and has been on the cooked turkey for months. I'm so hoping that this is something transitory and that her system will re-adjust. You should get her on a probiotics too. They make a pet formula acidophilous that you can find at the health food store. Start with small amounts at first. You might want to mix in a bit of plain whole milk yogurt in with her food too. They also sell something called Benebac (sp?), at Petsmart type places for kittens to balance the good bacteria. I understand your anguish at not being able to stay with her all the time. What can we do? Someone has to earn the cat food! It sounds like she's doing pretty well, except for the continuing stool problems. Sending prayers, good wishes and calming energy to you and Ember, Nina Lance wrote: Unfortunately, it seems like Ember still is having digestive problems. On Thursday, the vet gave her the injection (of what, I'm unsure), and I gave her a Centrine pill the next day. For Friday and Saturday, she seemed to eat and drink fairly normally. No BMs in the box until Sunday, however, and it seemed that the first visit to the box yielded loose stool, while the second was definitely diarrhea. She still has an appetite, and I believe she's been drinking water normally. She wouldn't touch the soft Felidae I had out earlier, but just an hour ago, she ate some dry Innova EVO. I gave her another Centrine pill, and have picked up the wet food, leaving out only the dry and her water. Earlier on Sunday, I did give her a very small bit of Kitty Kaviar. I gave her two treats of Kitty Kaviar on Wednesday. I'm wondering if she's having a problem with that? Ember has really enjoyed the KK when I've bought it before, though it may have caused one loose stool once. However, about a month ago, she managed to get into a can I had just opened, and ate virtually the entire can! I didn't see ANY problems after all of that, which I thought was strange. Anyway, she certainly won't be getting any for a long time. I apologize for giving such a blow-by-blow account. I haven't gotten any sleep, and I'm trying to decide what to do about work, since I took off two days last week when she was ill. The one promising thing is that she has not had the odd, listless behavior she had when this all started on Thursday. She's been behaving normally, so that would seem to be good. Oh, how I wish I could work at home! Sleepily, Lance
Re: Kitten newly diagnosed
Hi Maggie, I'm sorry to hear about Lucy testing pos, what a blessing that Izzie is neg though! I haven't tried IR myself, I wish I had with Gracie, one of the babies I lost. Abx worked for Grace too, (doxycycline, for what we thought was Hemobart, blood parasites), but it only gave her temp relief and her vet had suggested keeping her on it indefinitely too, (I didn't, I would give it to her during flare ups). The IR has worked for others on the list as well. It's a bacteria that is usually injected IV, (but I think it was Cindy that gave it subq with good results as well), that stimulates the immune response and tackles whatever the underlying problem is that's causing the high fevers. Felv is an opportunistic disease that causes immune response suppression and they can succumb to other diseases because of it. It's not the felv itself. That's why it's very important to find a vet that will help you properly diagnose whatever they are truly fighting, that way you can treat specifically for it. See if you can find a board certified Internist to help you with Lucy. I absolutely agree with keeping the two of them together. One of the most important things in keeping our angels healthy is as stress free an environment as possible and since they've been together all this time, it doesn't make sense to separate them, imo. Take a look at our archives and get them both on a quality diet and immune supportive supplements. Let us know how you guys are doing. Prayers and good wishes to all of you, Nina cindy reasoner wrote: Hi, I took in a stray that was hanging around our house. His name is Smokey. He was probably around 7 or 8 months when he tested positive. This after he tested negative the first time. He kept on running high fevers. The vet would put him on antibiotics and the fever would go down only to return in a few days. That is why he was tested the second time. I ended up changing vets for Smokey. The new vet he has been going to started him on Equistim injections subq. He got an injection for 4 or 5 days in a row. Now he gets 2 injections a week. He hasn't gotten a fever in about 4 months now. The vet has talked about taking him off these injections to see how he does. I am getting ready to go on vacation and don't want to do anything like that until I get back. Smokey seems like a normal cat now. He is active and eats great. Equistim is immuno-regulin. Maybe it might be something to ask your vet about. I don't know if it will help your Lucy with her fevers but so far it has helped Smokey. Cindy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I adopted sisters, Lucy and Izzie, from a shelter at 4 months old. Without going into too much detail, they are now 7 months old and I have just learned that Lucy is positive. She is symptomatic, she had a high fever and URI in the beginning of May, went on antibiotics, but within a few days of being off the antibiotics she had a fever of 105.5, had difficulty walking, went from 5.9 pounds to 5.1 in a very short period of time, and was one depressed little kitty. She went on antibiotics last Monday and was diagnosed as positive that day. She has really perked up, she's gained most of the weight back, is running, jumping, and playing with Izzie, but the vet seems to think that as soon as she goes of the antibiotics she will most likely get sick again. I had Izzie tested and she is negative. After many discussions with three different vets I decided to keep them together as it seems most likely Izzie caught it and fought it already. I've made the decision that the quality of their life together is what's most important right now and hoping that Izzie stays negative. There seems to be a lot of conflicting pieces of information out there. Does Interferon work for kitties who are symptomatic? One of the vets suggested I just keep Lucy on antibiotics until they stopped working, he thought Interferon wouldn't help as she had advanced this far. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Maggie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: OT: Thought some of you could use a good story for Monday morning!
I'm still rolling on the floor ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Kitten newly diagnosed
Hey Cindy, I just wanted to tell you how thrilled I am that Smokey is doing so well! I can guess how you're feeling about taking a "vacation" away from him. It's so hard to leave them, isn't it? I'm glad you're thinking of taking him off the IR when you return. From the way I understand how it works, it's never made much sense to me to have them on it continuously. Whatever you are doing it sounds like it's working and I'm so thrilled for you guys. Keep up the good work and try and relax while you're away. Hugs and head butts, Nina cindy reasoner wrote: Hi, I took in a stray that was hanging around our house. His name is Smokey. He was probably around 7 or 8 months when he tested positive. This after he tested negative the first time. He kept on running high fevers. The vet would put him on antibiotics and the fever would go down only to return in a few days. That is why he was tested the second time. I ended up changing vets for Smokey. The new vet he has been going to started him on Equistim injections subq. He got an injection for 4 or 5 days in a row. Now he gets 2 injections a week. He hasn't gotten a fever in about 4 months now. The vet has talked about taking him off these injections to see how he does. I am getting ready to go on vacation and don't want to do anything like that until I get back. Smokey seems like a normal cat now. He is active and eats great. Equistim is immuno-regulin. Maybe it might be something to ask your vet about. I don't know if it will help your Lucy with her fevers but so far it has helped Smokey. Cindy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I adopted sisters, Lucy and Izzie, from a shelter at 4 months old. Without going into too much detail, they are now 7 months old and I have just learned that Lucy is positive. She is symptomatic, she had a high fever and URI in the beginning of May, went on antibiotics, but within a few days of being off the antibiotics she had a fever of 105.5, had difficulty walking, went from 5.9 pounds to 5.1 in a very short period of time, and was one depressed little kitty. She went on antibiotics last Monday and was diagnosed as positive that day. She has really perked up, she's gained most of the weight back, is running, jumping, and playing with Izzie, but the vet seems to think that as soon as she goes of the antibiotics she will most likely get sick again. I had Izzie tested and she is negative. After many discussions with three different vets I decided to keep them together as it seems most likely Izzie caught it and fought it already. I've made the decision that the quality of their life together is what's most important right now and hoping that Izzie stays negative. There seems to be a lot of conflicting pieces of information out there. Does Interferon work for kitties who are symptomatic? One of the vets suggested I just keep Lucy on antibiotics until they stopped working, he thought Interferon wouldn't help as she had advanced this far. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Maggie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Update on feral babies
Hello, Nina and Lance thank you so much for your encouragement, it is a much better day today. The four kittens were all FeLV Neg. They get retested in a month, but so far, so good. Little Alice should get her IFA results back later this week, she is staying with my in laws for now, has never been to our house or near Blue. I am letting momma (Mia) go again this afternoon. The 4 negs are staying at our house, sequestered in a bedroom until the next test. My heart is breaking for poor little Alice, she is the nicest one of the bunch, leaps onto my shoulder whenever she sees me and starts purring. My darling Blue is not a purrer or a cuddler, I was looking forward to that. If Ally is IFA pos., we will not put her down, but try to find a home or a rescue to take her. I am torn on what to do if she is negative, would like to keep her but afraid. Our Blue is 14 months old,we rescued her as a very sick feral at 4 weeks, she has slept in bed with us since 7 or 8 weeks old, wehave no kids and dote onher. She is going in tomorrow for the vaccine, we didn't do it when we got her because ofthe risk of injection-site sarcoma, but will do it now with the newer adjuvant-free vaccine.Please keep your fingers crossed for Alice, as I will for Ember and the othersweeties. Thank you again, Peace, Beth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT:Tator-- Need help urgently! Senior Siameses in Illinois
Hi Terrie, I sent her an email. I have family friends in IL (I grew up there) who love Siamese, so I'm hoping someone can help. Yvonne
Re: OT:Tator-- Need help urgently! Senior Siameses in Illinois
Thanks so much! I'm sure she will appreciate hearing from you. She does Siamese Rescue in Iowa but is limited on what she can do. Very nice lady! In a message dated 6/5/2006 11:40:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Terrie, I sent her an email. I have family friends in IL (I grew up there) who love Siamese, so I'm hoping someone can help. Yvonne Terrie Mohr-ForkerTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Kitten newly diagnosed
Thank you, I am taking Smokey to the vet Saturday to get an injection of Winstrol. The vet has changed that from every 2 weeks to once a month. I think we will quit that too and see how he does. I just don't want to do anything drastic since I will be gone. I am going on vacation with my mother and my brother's family. My husband will be at home to take care of all the kids. So I don't worry about them as much since he will be there. I haven't really gone on a vacation in about 4 years now since my cat (Katie) was diagnosed as being diabetic. She has to have insulin shots twice daily. We have gone on weekend camping trips and boarded her but I hate that and I worry about her the whole time. We did go to Gatlinburg for a few days a couple of years ago but I found a hotel that allowed pets and we took Katie with us. Besides the vet she only lets my husband I give her the insulin shots. So it is hard to get away. I am happy about Smokey too. For a time it was really hard to know what I should do but I am so glad I gave him a chance to have a life however long it may be filled with love and a home of his own. I just hope he continues to do as well as he is now. Cindy --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Cindy, I just wanted to tell you how thrilled I am that Smokey is doing so well! I can guess how you're feeling about taking a vacation away from him. It's so hard to leave them, isn't it? I'm glad you're thinking of taking him off the IR when you return. From the way I understand how it works, it's never made much sense to me to have them on it continuously. Whatever you are doing it sounds like it's working and I'm so thrilled for you guys. Keep up the good work and try and relax while you're away. Hugs and head butts, Nina cindy reasoner wrote: Hi, I took in a stray that was hanging around our house. His name is Smokey. He was probably around 7 or 8 months when he tested positive. This after he tested negative the first time. He kept on running high fevers. The vet would put him on antibiotics and the fever would go down only to return in a few days. That is why he was tested the second time. I ended up changing vets for Smokey. The new vet he has been going to started him on Equistim injections subq. He got an injection for 4 or 5 days in a row. Now he gets 2 injections a week. He hasn't gotten a fever in about 4 months now. The vet has talked about taking him off these injections to see how he does. I am getting ready to go on vacation and don't want to do anything like that until I get back. Smokey seems like a normal cat now. He is active and eats great. Equistim is immuno-regulin. Maybe it might be something to ask your vet about. I don't know if it will help your Lucy with her fevers but so far it has helped Smokey. Cindy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I adopted sisters, Lucy and Izzie, from a shelter at 4 months old. Without going into too much detail, they are now 7 months old and I have just learned that Lucy is positive. She is symptomatic, she had a high fever and URI in the beginning of May, went on antibiotics, but within a few days of being off the antibiotics she had a fever of 105.5, had difficulty walking, went from 5.9 pounds to 5.1 in a very short period of time, and was one depressed little kitty. She went on antibiotics last Monday and was diagnosed as positive that day. She has really perked up, she's gained most of the weight back, is running, jumping, and playing with Izzie, but the vet seems to think that as soon as she goes of the antibiotics she will most likely get sick again. I had Izzie tested and she is negative. After many discussions with three different vets I decided to keep them together as it seems most likely Izzie caught it and fought it already. I've made the decision that the quality of their life together is what's most important right now and hoping that Izzie stays negative. There seems to be a lot of conflicting pieces of information out there. Does Interferon work for kitties who are symptomatic? One of the vets suggested I just keep Lucy on antibiotics until they stopped working, he thought Interferon wouldn't help as she had advanced this far. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Maggie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Update on feral babies
Oh Beth! Such good news on the four that tested neg!! You really are blessed. You talked about "surgery", so I assumed you meant the Momma is now spayed. Is there someone that puts food/water out for the feral cats near your in laws? It would be a Godsend to those kitties if you could hook up with a feral cat/rescue group in the area to TNR them and help you figure out a way to provide a caregiver to monitor the colony. There's a feral cat group that you might want to join for ideas: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/feral_cats/ There are ways to get financial support for s/n and other vet costs as well. I'm so glad you were there to help this litter, but there will be more, (obviously Momma didn't get pregnant all by herself!), and if there is felv in the colony, neutering and spaying will cut down on the fighting, (and of course the breeding), which will cut down on the suffering. I'm sorry to be pleading with you to do even more than you have, but who will, if we don't? That little Alice sounds like such a doll! Are you sure there's no way you could take her in? From what you say about her greetings, it sounds like she's certainly chosen you! I don't know Beth, I don't believe in coincidence. I think the ones that come to us this way are put in our path for a reason. Maybe the reason Alice and her family came to you was to help the rest of her colony, maybe it was to help her and her siblings to find forever homes, and maybe, just maybe, it was to bring little Alice into your life. I know she would enrich it in ways you'd never imagine. One of the kittens in my felv litter, Tim, did eventually test neg, because of that, I know that it's possible, (although, unfortunately, unlikely), for a pos kitten to clear the virus. Thank you so much for the good news about the other babies, Nina Gary Murphy wrote: Hello, Nina and Lance thank you so much for your encouragement, it is a much better day today. The four kittens were all FeLV Neg. They get retested in a month, but so far, so good. Little Alice should get her IFA results back later this week, she is staying with my in laws for now, has never been to our house or near Blue. I am letting momma (Mia) go again this afternoon. The 4 negs are staying at our house, sequestered in a bedroom until the next test. My heart is breaking for poor little Alice, she is the nicest one of the bunch, leaps onto my shoulder whenever she sees me and starts purring. My darling Blue is not a purrer or a cuddler, I was looking forward to that. If Ally is IFA pos., we will not put her down, but try to find a home or a rescue to take her. I am torn on what to do if she is negative, would like to keep her but afraid. Our Blue is 14 months old,we rescued her as a very sick feral at 4 weeks, she has slept in bed with us since 7 or 8 weeks old, wehave no kids and dote onher. She is going in tomorrow for the vaccine, we didn't do it when we got her because ofthe risk of injection-site sarcoma, but will do it now with the newer adjuvant-free vaccine.Please keep your fingers crossed for Alice, as I will for Ember and the othersweeties. Thank you again, Peace, Beth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: test results
Don't know if anyone answered you but yes the test results could definitely change in several months. The in house test is not 100% accurate, if you get a positive in house test I would wait atleast 3 months and retest using an IFA or PCR test, they are better tests. Also in the meantime while your waiting to retest, get them on the best food you can afford, and interferon if you can. There are other supplements like Mega C plus I would use also, you can find that here: http://www.belfield.com/products.html Here is an article he wrote that you may find interesting: http://www.belfield.com/article2.html -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Update on feral babies
Hi Beth, I am sorry you had to find our site, but glad that you did. This is the foremost site on FeLV, IMO. I second all of what Nina and Lance both said. Thank goodness the kittens were FeLV neg. As far as Ally goes, FeLV is not a death sentence. Her results could still come back negative and even if she is positive, she might throw off the virus like many cats do. She sounds like such a love. I am so glad you will not pts. It's such a shame when that happens too quickly, and most times needlessly. If you keep Ally, Blue will have to get accustomed to her. You'll have to introduce them slowly. Mine still haven't accepted the new kitten, Smookie, we got in March, but I'm still hopeful. Also, check the settings on your email. Your email font is coming through REALLY small, like 9 or less, and the only way I could read the post is through someone else's post where your post was at the bottom of their reply. If you can, set it to size 12 or so. Please keep us posted on little Ally! :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Cindy's well deserved vacation
Ha! You sound like so many of us on this list! I'm glad that your hubby will be there to care for your kids, hopefully you'll be able to relax and have a good time. You certainly deserve a vacation! I was suppose to go with my husband to visit his family on the east coast this month, but our babysitter fell through and I decided not to go. Not really such a hardship, I'm not all that thrilled with spending the money to visit my in-laws anyway :) . I'm glad Katie is stable and doing well too. You guys are such good fur parents! Many blessings to you and your family, Nina cindy reasoner wrote: Thank you, I am taking Smokey to the vet Saturday to get an injection of Winstrol. The vet has changed that from every 2 weeks to once a month. I think we will quit that too and see how he does. I just don't want to do anything drastic since I will be gone. I am going on vacation with my mother and my brother's family. My husband will be at home to take care of all the kids. So I don't worry about them as much since he will be there. I haven't really gone on a vacation in about 4 years now since my cat (Katie) was diagnosed as being diabetic. She has to have insulin shots twice daily. We have gone on weekend camping trips and boarded her but I hate that and I worry about her the whole time. We did go to Gatlinburg for a few days a couple of years ago but I found a hotel that allowed pets and we took Katie with us. Besides the vet she only lets my husband I give her the insulin shots. So it is hard to get away. I am happy about Smokey too. For a time it was really hard to know what I should do but I am so glad I gave him a chance to have a life however long it may be filled with love and a home of his own. I just hope he continues to do as well as he is now. Cindy
Re: OT: Thought some of you could use a good story for Monday morning!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL... Forwarded that one to my husband! :) Wendy --- Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still rolling on the floor ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Kitten newly diagnosed
Hi Maggie, I think you made the right decision in keeping Izzie and Lucy together. A stress-free environment is one of the two biggest things you can do to combat FeLV. The other is a high quality diet, including supplements like L-lysine and Vitamin C for the immune system. ImmunoRegulin may help in combating Lucy's high fever if it comes back. A lot of people here use or have used Interferon and really believe in it's benefits. I have not personally used it for my kitties, but I don't necessarily agree with that your vet said about it's effectiveness based on the experiences of other people here. I also don't agree with what the vet said about the antibiotics. I thought that antibiotics fought infection. FeLV is not an infection, but a virus, which antibiotics won't help (but they will help secondary illnesses). So I don't think that she will relapse when you do take her off the antibiotics, but I am not a vet. I would ask the vet to explain exactly why he thinks this. I can send you a manual on caring for sick kitties that I've composed from months of posts here. It is chock full of information on all sorts of things. Let me know if you'd like it. I'll have to send it direct as the site doesn't allow attachments to posts. I hope that little Lucy continues to do well. :) Wendy Dallas, TX __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Hello (Belinda, this is a classifieds listing post)
Hi, not sure if you already found the address if not here it is: http://adopt.bemikitties.com -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: test results
About Belfield's Mega C . . .I ordered some, but Bella will not touch it! I've tried mixing minuscule amountb in both canned Felidae and dry California Naturals. If she detects the faintest amount, she will not eay it. (We had a battle of wills in which that was all I offered her for 2 1/2 days. She won. She never ate it. I finally relented since I don't think fasting can be all that good for her . . .)Do any of you have tricks to get a cat to eat the Mega C? (I've thougth about mixing it with water and putting it on her coats, but I haven't done that yet.) I cannot understand how an animal that licks its hindquarters refuses to eat Mega C. Go figure . . .~AshleighBelinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if anyone answered you but yes the test results could definitely change in several months. The in house test is not 100% accurate, if you get a positive in house test I would wait atleast 3 months and retest using an IFA or PCR test, they are better tests. Also in the meantime while your waiting to retest, get them on the best food you can afford, and interferon if you can. There are other supplements like Mega C plus I would use also, you can find that here:http://www.belfield.com/products.htmlHere is an article he wrote that you may find interesting:http://www.belfield.com/article2.html-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: test results
Sorry my cats haven't refused it, wish I could help. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: test results
I don't know what the recommended dosage is, but maybe you could get some empty gel caps at the health food store and pill her? Have you had to give her pills before? Some cats are easy and some, uh, not so easy to pill. Just a thought. I was supplementing with vita C too, but it didn't have a pronounced taste and nobody refused it mixed in food. Nina Ashleigh Smith wrote: About Belfield's Mega C . . . I ordered some, but Bella will not touch it! I've tried mixing minuscule amountb in both canned Felidae and dry California Naturals. If she detects the faintest amount, she will not eay it. (We had a battle of wills in which that was all I offered her for 2 1/2 days. She won. She never ate it. I finally relented since I don't think fasting can be all that good for her . . .) Do any of you have tricks to get a cat to eat the Mega C? (I've thougth about mixing it with water and putting it on her coats, but I haven't done that yet.) I cannot understand how an animal that licks its hindquarters refuses to eat Mega C. Go figure . . . ~Ashleigh
Re: test results
Hi Ashleigh, Maybe you could syringe dose her, mixing the Mega C in with broth or spring water? I know nothing about the particulars. Hopefully someone on the list has used this method before. Good luck to you and Bella. Lance
Re: test results
I've mixed it with gruel and dosed it with a syringe in the batch of FeLV kittens I have in rescue right now. Works like a charm. I probably won't bother even trying to mix with wet food and offer it to them free choice as I hate the idea of them refusing and seeing it go to waste. Good luck! Rachel On 6/5/06, Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ashleigh,Maybe you could syringe dose her, mixing the Mega C in with broth orspring water? I know nothing about the particulars. Hopefully someone on the list has used this method before. Good luck to you and Bella.Lance
Re: test results
I mix the mega C in wet food and no rescue has ever refused it Karen
Just wondering
Please forgive my ignorance - but I am new to the list. I hear a lot about giving supplements to cats - vitamin C, in particular. What is the benefit of this for FeVL+ cats? Since cats, unlike humans, synthesize and producetheir own vitamin C - are FeVL+ cats unable to continue to produce it? What is the added benefit and what is the dosage? Although vitamin C is a water soluble vitamin - what is the upper limit of this vitamin that is considered toxic? What are the recommended allowances of the various vitaminsfor cats and what are the vitamins they require?Where can I find reputableresource material? Thank you for your time and your patience. elizabeth
