Re: Mama Kitty Update
Thank you, Wendy. I don't know if the Acemannan is specifically for anemia pe se but it seemed to help so much last time. I am cautiously optimistic. She had several good bites of salmon last night and this morning. elizabeth On 3/20/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elizabeth, I am so glad you took Mama Kitty in to the vet too! Paying close attention to our furbabies can be the difference between life and death sometimes. Bless you for taking her in so quickly. I am sorry to hear that she is anemic. But since she bounced back last year so well, I don't see any reason why she can't this year. Did you say the Acemannan is for anemia? Aren't you glad the company that manufactures it isn't having the issues they had a few months ago, now?! I will keep her in my prayers. Please keep us posted on her progress. Thinking of you both... :) Wendy Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
Re: Mama Kitty
It's definitely worth a try. There's got to be a sneaky way to do it :0) elizabeth On 3/21/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elizabeth, She still may not like the taste, it's the vitamin B that has the overpowering taste. Maybe you can try adding some to tuna juice, I think the dose is a 1/4 teaspoon twice a day. I just put some in Fred's food when I make a batch. He gets fed through the feeding tube so no fuss from him:) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Looking for a good canned food
While it may be largely a matter of personal taste, I've had a couple of very
finicky eaters who wanted to subsist on Friskies turkey prime fillets. Also,
Marie, the ultimate finicky eater, can tell the difference between Friskies
regular chicken in gravy and the senior formula/special diet formulation of
Friskies chicken in gravy. She prefers the senior formula/special diet variety
and won't touch the other. (Marie is 9 years old. She has never eaten a
single morsel of dry food in her life. And I'm sure she never will. At this
point, if ever I saw her eat dry food, I'd rush her to the vet. She eats
strictly Friskies prime filllet varieties, and senior formula or special diet
chicken in gravy.)
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can't seem to resist? Our cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any
suggestions?
Debbie
http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/
Re: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?/Attn: MJ
WOW! Thanks. Finksburg is only a little over and hour from me, so I might be able to swing that. Could you give me his number and I'll call? I'm going to call several places today and see what I can find out. Last night...about 10:30 or so I really thought I would lose him. He was so lethargic that when we gave him fluids he just flopped in my arms and didn't even wince when we stuck him (normally he screams). I told him that if he wanted to make it through the night I was going to try to find a vet to help us. His temp was in the low 103's during the night and 104.2 this morning. And around 5:30 or so he got up and ate and drank quite a bit of water on his own. That was great to see! I'm gonna start calling around, so please send your dr's info. THANKS! And I'd love to have you vouch for me...I can use all the discounts I can get! MJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot [silly me!} to say that my vet also gives Rescue Rates If you want, I'll vouch for you Hugs Best Wishes, Patti her gang - AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. - Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.
RE: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?/Attn: MJ
Dear Marissa Sending you and Slinky healing vibes and prayers. It's great that you're getting recommendations for a good vet relatively nearby. We're all rooting for you and your little trooper Slinky. love and hugs, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa Johnson Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?/Attn: MJ WOW! Thanks. Finksburg is only a little over and hour from me, so I might be able to swing that. Could you give me his number and I'll call? I'm going to call several places today and see what I can find out. Last night...about 10:30 or so I really thought I would lose him. He was so lethargic that when we gave him fluids he just flopped in my arms and didn't even wince when we stuck him (normally he screams). I told him that if he wanted to make it through the night I was going to try to find a vet to help us. His temp was in the low 103's during the night and 104.2 this morning. And around 5:30 or so he got up and ate and drank quite a bit of water on his own. That was great to see! I'm gonna start calling around, so please send your dr's info. THANKS! And I'd love to have you vouch for me...I can use all the discounts I can get! MJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot [silly me!} to say that my vet also gives Rescue Rates If you want, I'll vouch for you Hugs Best Wishes, Patti her gang http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/clip_art/gstres/anmls/cat _ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339 . _ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49936/*http://videogames.yahoo.com IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers' particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?/Attn: MJ
MJ- I am going to get all that info. for you... Please bare w/ me, I'm S-L-O-W. Wonder why J/K - not I think I can even get you another rescue referral. Working on that. I will do my best.. Promise. And, the sooner, the better, right? He is VERY busy, but he DOES take emergencies almost right away. One more GREAT thing - He NEVER opts for euthanasia He does all he's able. LOVE that vet, really. I'll get that info. to you ASAP...(Probably off-list) Please stay in touch! Hugs, Patti her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Looking for a good canned food
I have a dry food addict who became ill a couple of months ago with a severe liver infection and lost a lot of weight. I tried to get Boo to eat everything, but he had absolutely no interest in any food (except meat baby food) until I tried the new Fancy Feast elegant medleys. He just gobbles the entire 3 oz. down immediately. It's really expensive - about twice as much as the regular Fancy Feast cans, but worth it if you need your kitty to eat. Linda Anyone know a really good canned food that cats can't seem to resist? Our cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any suggestions? Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html
Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
Hi all, Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month, has been diagnosed with Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia. I'm really concerned about him. I feel bad because I think I should have noticed something sooner. What information can yall give me about this disease? It is my understanding this disease is more common in FELV+ cats. Thanks, -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Looking for a good canned food
I think I will try your suggestions. I am at a loss. All she wants to eat right now is dry Purina Indoor Formula. I went out and bought some real expensive dryfoods and hardly any of our cats would eat them. We were feeding Friskies Pacific Salmon, but everyone was throwing it up - it was the same last night with the Friskies Whitefish and Tuna! When I was a kid and we had cats outside and they would have eaten anything that they could get. I guess we have pampered our guys now too much. Thanks again Susan. By the way - do you mind if I ask where you are from? I know a Susan Hoffman here locally in Ohio. Debbie http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/ -Original Message- From: Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Mar 21, 2007 9:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Looking for a good canned food While it may be largely a matter of personal taste, I've had a couple of very finicky eaters who wanted to subsist on Friskies turkey prime fillets. Also, Marie, the ultimate finicky eater, can tell the difference between Friskies regular chicken in gravy and the senior formula/special diet formulation of Friskies chicken in gravy. She prefers the senior formula/special diet variety and won't touch the other. (Marie is 9 years old. She has never eaten a single morsel of dry food in her life. And I'm sure she never will. At this point, if ever I saw her eat dry food, I'd rush her to the vet. She eats strictly Friskies prime filllet varieties, and senior formula or special diet chicken in gravy.)Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know a really good canned food that cats can't seem to resist? Our cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any suggestions? Debbie http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/
Re: Looking for a good canned food
My kids eat the felidae canned just fine. But I have heard other people say their cats do not. I think it is a process of trying different things until y ou find one they like. Mine hear a can - any can - opening and they go nuts! Kelley On 3/21/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I will try your suggestions. I am at a loss. All she wants to eat right now is dry Purina Indoor Formula. I went out and bought some real expensive dry foods and hardly any of our cats would eat them. We were feeding Friskies Pacific Salmon, but everyone was throwing it up - it was the same last night with the Friskies Whitefish and Tuna! When I was a kid and we had cats outside and they would have eaten anything that they could get. I guess we have pampered our guys now too much. Thanks again Susan. By the way - do you mind if I ask where you are from? I know a Susan Hoffman here locally in Ohio. Debbie http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/ -Original Message- From: Susan Hoffman Sent: Mar 21, 2007 9:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Looking for a good canned food While it may be largely a matter of personal taste, I've had a couple of very finicky eaters who wanted to subsist on Friskies turkey prime fillets. Also, Marie, the ultimate finicky eater, can tell the difference between Friskies regular chicken in gravy and the senior formula/special diet formulation of Friskies chicken in gravy. She prefers the senior formula/special diet variety and won't touch the other. (Marie is 9 years old. She has never eaten a single morsel of dry food in her life. And I'm sure she never will. At this point, if ever I saw her eat dry food, I'd rush her to the vet. She eats strictly Friskies prime filllet varieties, and senior formula or special diet chicken in gravy.) *Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Anyone know a really good canned food that cats can't seem to resist? Our cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any suggestions? Debbie http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/ -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Looking for a good canned food
Debbie- Well I guess it really depends on our fur babies. And believe me, I have a ungiue crew, and that's putting it mildly... Some will eat just about anything, but I'll focus on my persnickety babies... My Puma (ancient, ill w/ kitty alzheimers [EXCEPT when it comes to food] ) thrives on Fancy Feast, especially the new kind. ($$$'s, but he's worth it..). He also LOVES Friskies Tuna Egg. Only thing is, I really have to smush it for the old boy He likes his food really, really wet. He also loves Friskies Mixed Grill. And, Ocean Whitefish, Turkey Giblets, Salmon... And, except for a few, my babies detest any sliced varieties...(Except for the Friskies Turkey Giblets - probably know it's good for them...) Have to confess, they all hated the good stuff (canned, they ALL eat good dry.).. Another thing, almost all of them dislike any beef flavor. Even the non-persnickety ones. Hope you get some suggestions that Cassie will actually love... Sorry if I wasn't more helpful. With this memory thing, it's impossible to recall all. Just remember Friskies 'cause it's what we exclusively fed at shelter.. Hugs Best Wishes, Patti her (Friskies/Fancy Feast) gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Looking for a good canned food
my cats love the fancy feast medleys too...especially the chicken and turkey. I am trying pet gold elite and getting mixed reviews. As a snack one of my cats loves the sheba snack cans, they aren't the full meal cans but little snacking wet food, expensive, but worth it when the cats love it so much. Good luck Jeni Hillman Waller, Nookie the feral and Cree From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Looking for a good canned food Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:52:35 EDT Debbie- Well I guess it really depends on our fur babies. And believe me, I have a ungiue crew, and that's putting it mildly... Some will eat just about anything, but I'll focus on my persnickety babies... My Puma (ancient, ill w/ kitty alzheimers [EXCEPT when it comes to food] ) thrives on Fancy Feast, especially the new kind. ($$$'s, but he's worth it..). He also LOVES Friskies Tuna Egg. Only thing is, I really have to smush it for the old boy He likes his food really, really wet. He also loves Friskies Mixed Grill. And, Ocean Whitefish, Turkey Giblets, Salmon... And, except for a few, my babies detest any sliced varieties...(Except for the Friskies Turkey Giblets - probably know it's good for them...) Have to confess, they all hated the good stuff (canned, they ALL eat good dry.).. Another thing, almost all of them dislike any beef flavor. Even the non-persnickety ones. Hope you get some suggestions that Cassie will actually love... Sorry if I wasn't more helpful. With this memory thing, it's impossible to recall all. Just remember Friskies 'cause it's what we exclusively fed at shelter.. Hugs Best Wishes, Patti her (Friskies/Fancy Feast) gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. _ Interest Rates near 39yr lows! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-18466moid=7581
Re: Looking for a good canned food - OOPS!!!
Debbie, Sorry, I just read about the episode w/ the Salmon Ocean Whitefish...Guess I wasn't too much help. But, since you want Cassie eating something other than dry only, have you tried baby food [meat]? Always works for me. Especially when Puma was so sick just diagnosed, he was a mess. I really believe that's what got him back on track.. (That, and me FINALLY being home!) Again, Good Luck! Hugs, Patti her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Looking for a good canned food
Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and Cheese. My cats devour this stuff and will begged for it. Friskies Prime Fillets Fancy Feast Medley Whiskas Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the kitty will eat. I have bought the expensive food in the past and it was a waste of money they wouldn't eat it...tried to bury it! My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say give what they will eat to get the something solid and water from the wetfood. Too many changes in food isn't good for them due their digestive tract. So be careful. I too remember feeding my cats years ago Puss n Boots and Friskies in the big cans. It was when there wasn't so many varieties as today but they were happy with it. Didn't have all the health problems either...makes ya wonder though. Boy, times have changed! Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Looking for a good canned food
In a message dated 3/21/07 10:57:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sheba snack cans, they aren't the full meal cans but little snacking wet food, expensive, but worth it when the cats love it so much. Good luck Jeni- THANK YOU Your post stirred a memory.. Yes, Sheba was another food I forgot. (It's amazing how much this list has helped me! Thank you ALL!) Hugs, Patti her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Looking for a good canned food
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RE: Thanks! sub-q fluid help
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Re: Looking for a good canned food/other things too
Well, with what's been going on with my life things have been very hectic and finances being a strain/stressful. I'm surprised I remember that too...lmao I haven't replied back to anyone but feel bad for those that have lost their furbabies to this horrible disease and other illnesses. You all do remain in my thoughts and prayers. I do read all emails when possible. Felt it was time to write to the group. This crap with the food recall is out of control especially when they knew about this before it actually hit wire/media. They have known this for several weeks prior. It is estimated 1 out of every 6 is affected by these foods that will die. No pet deserves this! God this just pisses me off! I know at times you were there for me when I needed a friend on my losses of my fur-angels plus when they were sick prior. You are a great bunch of caring and loving people. Remember, when I have said when the cure comes I will eat Cheesecake with you that still stands...even though I can't stand the stuff. It will be a victory! Things continue to happen in my household never a dull moment. In a message dated 3/21/2007 7:16:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 3/21/07 11:08:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whiskas Terrie, See? You also helped me. I also forgot about Whiskas Hugs, Patti her [soon to get their previous wet food!!] gang Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Mama Kitty
for anyone giving fluids regularly (for crf, etc) you can add the vitamin b complex or whatever to the fluids--3ccs per bag. makes the fluids a rather odd color, but the cats don't seem to mind... i do injectible b-complex shots when necessary--it's so hard to get pills and liquids into the teeny-tiny persian mouth, and they really don't seem to mind the injections very much. (she says, ignoring that still-healing bite on her left index finger where the siberian took exception to her depo/b-complex shot of two weeks ago.) MC On 3/21/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's definitely worth a try. There's got to be a sneaky way to do it :0) elizabeth On 3/21/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elizabeth, She still may not like the taste, it's the vitamin B that has the overpowering taste. Maybe you can try adding some to tuna juice, I think the dose is a 1/4 teaspoon twice a day. I just put some in Fred's food when I make a batch. He gets fed through the feeding tube so no fuss from him:) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/ this disease... But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it.. What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him. Just laying around, sleeping alot. So, I took him to my vet. Was devastated when I got results!!! Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I learned doing my research) We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff. prescriptions!), etc., etc. Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally had my boy PTS.. He could no longer walk, even get up. And, the chemo drugs made him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to do!!! I ended up hand-feeding him. He developed ulcerations in his mouth because of all he had to take. It got to the point where I was hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a big boy..) In the end, my former big boy weighed only around 60 lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his weight) It broke my heart, but I'm even more heartbroken about all I put him through. I did it for me - I didn't want to lose him. But, after all I put him thru, I did lose him. We humans can be so selfish. After losing Bear [in a HORRIBLE way- treatment was probably worse than the disease!], I made a promise to ALL my babies, I would never let them suffer. Found out, the hard way, that in loving the most important thing is knowing when to let go.. Sorry this wasn't about Feline AIHA, but I just had to share what I know [sadly, only TOO well] about the disease. Best wishes for your baby. Hugs, Patti her gang (Which DOES include another Rottie!) ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
RE: Thanks! sub-q fluid help
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petfood recall questions
Where is this estimate from? Also, can anyone tell me how long before onset of symtoms from the tainted food, or how much or how little of the food might have an impact? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is estimated 1 out of every 6 is affected by these foods that will die.
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
Well, He was lethargic, but there are so many reasons for that. Particularly with an elder owner surrendered cat. He was fine at first but went downhill. That's common thoughcould be URI, I was afraid of fatty liver..but I took him to the vet. If I had known him well, I expect I would have taken him sooner. If he is not feeling well soon I expect I can make the decision to euthanize him. Right now he can walk around, eat and drink on his own, though. I think he would like to try to fight. On 3/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/ this disease... But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it.. What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him. Just laying around, sleeping alot. So, I took him to my vet. Was devastated when I got results!!! Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I learned doing my research) We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff. prescriptions!), etc., etc. Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally had my boy PTS.. He could no longer walk, even get up. And, the chemo drugs made him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to do!!! I ended up hand-feeding him. He developed ulcerations in his mouth because of all he *had* to take. It got to the point where I was hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a big boy..) In the end, my former big boy weighed only around 60 lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his weight) It broke my heart, but I'm even more heartbroken about all I put him through. I did it for me - I didn't want to lose him. But, after all I put him thru, I did lose him. We humans can be so selfish. After losing Bear [in a HORRIBLE way- treatment was probably worse than the disease!], I made a promise to ALL my babies, I would never let them suffer. Found out, the hard way, that in loving the most important thing is *knowing* when to let go.. Sorry this wasn't about Feline AIHA, but I just had to share what I know [sadly, only TOO well] about the disease. Best wishes for your baby. Hugs, Patti her gang (Which DOES include another Rottie!) -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/20/pet-food-recall-how-many-deaths/ i think that link is being updated frequently as info comes in. i had heard the one-in-six figure from the research the company did after the first reports came in--when they tested the foods on their test animals and 10 of the 60 died here's a link to the AVMA statement for pet owners-- http://www.pr-inside.com/avma-offers-advice-to-pet-owners-r71034.htm On 3/21/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is this estimate from? Also, can anyone tell me how long before onset of symtoms from the tainted food, or how much or how little of the food might have an impact? * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * * *It is estimated 1 out of every 6 is affected by these foods that will die.* -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
At 07:34 AM 3/21/2007, you wrote: Very serious. I lost my dog to it, Should rrespont to HIGH doses of Steroids, Not just the pred type, may have a better outcome for a cat as they tolerate steroids better than dogs, Needs GOOD vet treatment plans, Hi all, Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month, has been diagnosed with Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia. I'm really concerned about him. I feel bad because I think I should have noticed something sooner. What information can yall give me about this disease? It is my understanding this disease is more common in FELV+ cats. Thanks, -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.orghttp://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/726 - Release Date: 3/18/2007
Re: Looking for a good canned food/other things too
i think that we exist in one another's lives to spark those brain-cells that are dimming in ALL of us--and most of us have no real excuse for the random-accessibility of our memories. we each hold different pieces of the puzzle, and until we sit down and compare edges, things just don't fit together well -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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OhPlease don't blame yourself for anything!!! And, an elderly Owner Surrender, boy, I've had MORE than my share of them (One of which is my Puma, now ancient, but was approx. 12 when turned into a kill shelter! And, due to his age, they were going to euthanize, I should say gas him right away The joys of rescue) Know that my prayers are w/ you your boy.. I pray for only the best Hugs, Patti her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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I always blame myself..dont' we always? If I had noticied something sooner, maybe he'd have a better chance..how many times I have said that... On 3/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OhPlease don't blame yourself for anything!!! And, an elderly Owner Surrender, boy, I've had MORE than my share of them (One of which is my Puma, now ancient, but was approx. 12 when turned into a kill shelter! And, due to his age, they were going to euthanize, I should say *gas* him right away The joys of rescue) Know that my prayers are w/ you your boy.. I pray for only the best Hugs, Patti her gang -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
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In a message dated 3/21/07 10:28:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but worth it if you need your kitty to eat. Yes, indeed Looks like the Fancy Feast Elegant entrees is really getting our furbabies to eat.. Patti her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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if you had been able to notice something sooner, you would have. we do the best we can with the information at hand. now you know, and can act--there's not a damned thing you can do to change anything that's gone before, except waste time and energy that joey and the others need.. maybe part of the reason joey came to YOU, and not to anyone else, was to teach a GOOD, conscientious rescuer, what this particular condition can look like. so that you WILL know it next time, and so that the two of you can teach the rest of us. On 3/21/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always blame myself..dont' we always? If I had noticied something sooner, maybe he'd have a better chance..how many times I have said that... On 3/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OhPlease don't blame yourself for anything!!! And, an elderly Owner Surrender, boy, I've had MORE than my share of them (One of which is my Puma, now ancient, but was approx. 12 when turned into a kill shelter! And, due to his age, they were going to euthanize, I should say *gas* him right away The joys of rescue) Know that my prayers are w/ you your boy.. I pray for only the best Hugs, Patti her gang -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Pardon me...this was due to the testing prior. I spoke with my Vets about this they said it can still be used as an estimate even though this was being tested on both cats and dogs. Menu Foods knew this before putting it on the market. Pet Food Tests Killed 1 in 6, FDA Says Menu Foods Recalls Dozens Of Pet-Food Brands POSTED: 10:05 am CDT March 20, 2007 WASHINGTON -- As many as one in six animals died in tests of dog and cat food that is part of a major recall. Recall: Dog Products | Cat Products Canadian manufacturer Menu Foods conducted the tests after fielding complaints that the products were killing pets around the country. The government says Menu Foods tested suspect dog and cat food on as many as 50 animals after it learned of the problems -- weeks before the company announced its major recall of the affected food. Seven test animals died. Menu Foods told the U.S. Food and Drug Administration that it received the first complaints of kidney failure and deaths among cats and dogs on Feb. 20. During the tests, the company fed its product to 40 to 50 dogs and cats. Seven animals died. The mix of species was not immediately known. The FDA said wheat gluten is the likely source of contamination that sparked a recall last Friday of 60 million cans and pouches of the suspect food, although the agency says its investigators are looking at other ingredients, too. Wheat gluten, a protein source, is commonly used as filler. Menu Foods said the products were made with wheat gluten from a new supplier. That supplier has been replaced. The recall involves dozens of brands made by Menu Foods. The company said an undetermined number of cats and dogs have suffered kidney failure after eating the food and about 10 have died. The recall includes cuts and gravy style dog and cat food produced at Menu Foods' facility in Emporia, Kan., between Dec. 3, 2006, and March 6, 2007. The pet food is widely sold throughout North America under 51 dog- food brands and 40 cat-food labels, including Iams, Nutro and Eukanuba. The products are distributed by major retailers such as Wal- Mart, Kroger and Safeway. A complete list of the recalled products along with product codes, descriptions and production dates is available from the Menu Foods Web site at menufoods.com Two other pet food companies -- Nestle Purina and Hill's Pet Nutrition -- are voluntarily recalling some of their products that are made by Menu Foods. Officials are warning pet owners to immediately stop feeding the contaminated foods to their pets and said owners should see their pets' veterinarians if they develop signs of kidney failure, including loss of appetite, vomiting or lethargy. Meanwhile, the recall has animal owners worried and scrambling to find substitutes. Paul Castronovo, who is the weekday morning radio host on 105.9 F.M. in Miami, said his cat is in renal failure and it could be from the food, reported WPLG-TV in Miami Sunday morning we woke up and the cat couldn't move or hold its head up, Castronovo said. We said, 'Well, let's take her to the emergency room.' At that point, I grabbed the newspaper and I noticed the headline that dogs and cat food recall. We both panicked and looked it up and it made me sick to my stomach. I saw that we served her Iams. It was the exact lot number. She's in complete renal failure. A New Jersey woman became concerned when the four types of Iams products she buys for her cat, Smokey, had vanished from shelves. She said Smokey is very sick and hasn't been eating for days. In Nebraska, another woman said she sometimes feeds her five cats packets of sliced meat and gravy sold by one of the brands affected. She said her cat, Boots, seems to have lost its appetite in the past few days. Here is a link to the AVMA that is offering advice. _http://www.pr-inside.com/avma-offers-advice-to-pet-owners-r71034.htm_ (http://www.pr-inside.com/avma-offers-advice-to-pet-owners-r71034.htm) Please read this is has interesting information regarding the recalls and media. _http://www.howl911.com/_ (http://www.howl911.com/) In a message dated 3/21/2007 8:04:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where is this estimate from? Also, can anyone tell me how long before onset of symtoms from the tainted food, or how much or how little of the food might have an impact? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is estimated 1 out of every 6 is affected by these foods that will die. Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/)
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added some more pics of our 14 babies if anyone cares to look. Let me know what everyone thinks. Debbie http://picasaweb.google.com/justadreamer1021/MyPets
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Does anyone have any idea how long after eating tainted foods that symtoms might appear? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pardon me...this was due to the testing prior. I spoke with my Vets about this they said it can still be used as an estimate even though this was being tested on both cats and dogs. Menu Foods knew this before putting it on the market. Pet Food Tests Killed 1 in 6, FDA Says Menu Foods Recalls Dozens Of Pet-Food Brands POSTED: 10:05 am CDT March 20, 2007 WASHINGTON -- As many as one in six animals died in tests of dog and cat food that is part of a major recall. Recall: Dog Products | Cat Products Canadian manufacturer Menu Foods conducted the tests after fielding complaints that the products were killing pets around the country. The government says Menu Foods tested suspect dog and cat food on as many as 50 animals after it learned of the problems -- weeks before the company announced its major recall of the affected food. Seven test animals died. Menu Foods told the U.S. Food and Drug Administration that it received the first complaints of kidney failure and deaths among cats and dogs on Feb. 20. During the tests, the company fed its product to 40 to 50 dogs and cats. Seven animals died. The mix of species was not immediately known. The FDA said wheat gluten is the likely source of contamination that sparked a recall last Friday of 60 million cans and pouches of the suspect food, although the agency says its investigators are looking at other ingredients, too. Wheat gluten, a protein source, is commonly used as filler. Menu Foods said the products were made with wheat gluten from a new supplier. That supplier has been replaced. The recall involves dozens of brands made by Menu Foods. The company said an undetermined number of cats and dogs have suffered kidney failure after eating the food and about 10 have died. The recall includes cuts and gravy style dog and cat food produced at Menu Foods' facility in Emporia, Kan., between Dec. 3, 2006, and March 6, 2007. The pet food is widely sold throughout North America under 51 dog- food brands and 40 cat-food labels, including Iams, Nutro and Eukanuba. The products are distributed by major retailers such as Wal- Mart, Kroger and Safeway. A complete list of the recalled products along with product codes, descriptions and production dates is available from the Menu Foods Web site at menufoods.com Two other pet food companies -- Nestle Purina and Hill's Pet Nutrition -- are voluntarily recalling some of their products that are made by Menu Foods. Officials are warning pet owners to immediately stop feeding the contaminated foods to their pets and said owners should see their pets' veterinarians if they develop signs of kidney failure, including loss of appetite, vomiting or lethargy. Meanwhile, the recall has animal owners worried and scrambling to find substitutes. Paul Castronovo, who is the weekday morning radio host on 105.9 F.M. in Miami, said his cat is in renal failure and it could be from the food, reported WPLG-TV in Miami Sunday morning we woke up and the cat couldn't move or hold its head up, Castronovo said. We said, 'Well, let's take her to the emergency room.' At that point, I grabbed the newspaper and I noticed the headline that dogs and cat food recall. We both panicked and looked it up and it made me sick to my stomach. I saw that we served her Iams. It was the exact lot number. She's in complete renal failure. A New Jersey woman became concerned when the four types of Iams products she buys for her cat, Smokey, had vanished from shelves. She said Smokey is very sick and hasn't been eating for days. In Nebraska, another woman said she sometimes feeds her five cats packets of sliced meat and gravy sold by one of the brands affected. She said her cat, Boots, seems to have lost its appetite in the past few days. Here is a link to the AVMA that is offering advice. http://www.pr-inside.com/avma-offers-advice-to-pet-owners-r71034.htm Please read this is has interesting information regarding the recalls and media. http://www.howl911.com/ In a message dated 3/21/2007 8:04:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where is this estimate from? Also, can anyone tell me how long before onset of symtoms from the tainted food, or how much or how little of the food might have an impact? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is estimated 1 out of every 6 is affected by these foods that will die. Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html
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i think that one of the links i posted earlier--either the AVMA one or the petconnection one speaks of that.. but i may be wrong, of course. it would seem that whatever is going on has to be an acute thing, not a chronic one--or it wouldn't be showing up so quickly, would it? normal kidney failure takes while to develop unless there's a toxin involved, yes? no? On 3/21/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any idea how long after eating tainted foods that symtoms might appear? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Pardon me...this was due to the testing prior. I spoke with my Vets about this they said it can still be used as an estimate even though this was being tested on both cats and dogs.* *Menu Foods knew this before putting it on the market.* Pet Food Tests Killed 1 in 6, FDA Says Menu Foods Recalls Dozens Of Pet-Food Brands POSTED: 10:05 am CDT March 20, 2007 WASHINGTON -- As many as one in six animals died in tests of dog and cat food that is part of a major recall. Recall: Dog Products | Cat Products Canadian manufacturer Menu Foods conducted the tests after fielding complaints that the products were killing pets around the country. The government says Menu Foods tested suspect dog and cat food on as many as 50 animals after it learned of the problems -- weeks before the company announced its major recall of the affected food. Seven test animals died. Menu Foods told the U.S. Food and Drug Administration that it received the first complaints of kidney failure and deaths among cats and dogs on Feb. 20. During the tests, the company fed its product to 40 to 50 dogs and cats. Seven animals died. The mix of species was not immediately known. The FDA said wheat gluten is the likely source of contamination that sparked a recall last Friday of 60 million cans and pouches of the suspect food, although the agency says its investigators are looking at other ingredients, too. Wheat gluten, a protein source, is commonly used as filler. Menu Foods said the products were made with wheat gluten from a new supplier. That supplier has been replaced. The recall involves dozens of brands made by Menu Foods. The company said an undetermined number of cats and dogs have suffered kidney failure after eating the food and about 10 have died. The recall includes cuts and gravy style dog and cat food produced at Menu Foods' facility in Emporia, Kan., between Dec. 3, 2006, and March 6, 2007. The pet food is widely sold throughout North America under 51 dog- food brands and 40 cat-food labels, including Iams, Nutro and Eukanuba. The products are distributed by major retailers such as Wal- Mart, Kroger and Safeway. A complete list of the recalled products along with product codes, descriptions and production dates is available from the Menu Foods Web site at menufoods.com Two other pet food companies -- Nestle Purina and Hill's Pet Nutrition -- are voluntarily recalling some of their products that are made by Menu Foods. Officials are warning pet owners to immediately stop feeding the contaminated foods to their pets and said owners should see their pets' veterinarians if they develop signs of kidney failure, including loss of appetite, vomiting or lethargy. Meanwhile, the recall has animal owners worried and scrambling to find substitutes. Paul Castronovo, who is the weekday morning radio host on 105.9 F.M. in Miami, said his cat is in renal failure and it could be from the food, reported WPLG-TV in Miami Sunday morning we woke up and the cat couldn't move or hold its head up, Castronovo said. We said, 'Well, let's take her to the emergency room.' At that point, I grabbed the newspaper and I noticed the headline that dogs and cat food recall. We both panicked and looked it up and it made me sick to my stomach. I saw that we served her Iams. It was the exact lot number. She's in complete renal failure. A New Jersey woman became concerned when the four types of Iams products she buys for her cat, Smokey, had vanished from shelves. She said Smokey is very sick and hasn't been eating for days. In Nebraska, another woman said she sometimes feeds her five cats packets of sliced meat and gravy sold by one of the brands affected. She said her cat, Boots, seems to have lost its appetite in the past few days. *Here is a link to the AVMA that is offering advice.* *http://www.pr-inside.com/avma-offers-advice-to-pet-owners-r71034.htm* *Please read this is has interesting information regarding the recalls and media.* *http://www.howl911.com/* ** In a message dated 3/21/2007 8:04:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where is this estimate from? Also, can anyone tell me how long before onset of symtoms from the tainted food, or how much or how little of the food might have an impact? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** *It is estimated 1 out of every 6 is affected by
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I have been trying to find this out as well. I'm assuming within a few weeks up to a few months depends on the immune system of cats and dogs I guess. In a message dated 3/21/2007 9:06:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any idea how long after eating tainted foods that symtoms might appear? Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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it's so confusing as to who knew what when--i know when i saw the first report, it implied that the 10 deaths had been in the public, and that was what prompted the recall. which does not seem to be the case at all. i just don't want to make anything any muddier than it already is! On 3/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Pardon me...this was due to the testing prior. I spoke with my Vets about this they said it can still be used as an estimate even though this was being tested on both cats and dogs.* *Menu Foods knew this before putting it on the market.* Pet Food Tests Killed 1 in 6, FDA Says Menu Foods Recalls Dozens Of Pet-Food Brands POSTED: 10:05 am CDT March 20, 2007 WASHINGTON -- As many as one in six animals died in tests of dog and cat food that is part of a major recall. Recall: Dog Products | Cat Products Canadian manufacturer Menu Foods conducted the tests after fielding complaints that the products were killing pets around the country. The government says Menu Foods tested suspect dog and cat food on as many as 50 animals after it learned of the problems -- weeks before the company announced its major recall of the affected food. Seven test animals died. Menu Foods told the U.S. Food and Drug Administration that it received the first complaints of kidney failure and deaths among cats and dogs on Feb. 20. During the tests, the company fed its product to 40 to 50 dogs and cats. Seven animals died. The mix of species was not immediately known. The FDA said wheat gluten is the likely source of contamination that sparked a recall last Friday of 60 million cans and pouches of the suspect food, although the agency says its investigators are looking at other ingredients, too. Wheat gluten, a protein source, is commonly used as filler. Menu Foods said the products were made with wheat gluten from a new supplier. That supplier has been replaced. The recall involves dozens of brands made by Menu Foods. The company said an undetermined number of cats and dogs have suffered kidney failure after eating the food and about 10 have died. The recall includes cuts and gravy style dog and cat food produced at Menu Foods' facility in Emporia, Kan., between Dec. 3, 2006, and March 6, 2007. The pet food is widely sold throughout North America under 51 dog- food brands and 40 cat-food labels, including Iams, Nutro and Eukanuba. The products are distributed by major retailers such as Wal- Mart, Kroger and Safeway. A complete list of the recalled products along with product codes, descriptions and production dates is available from the Menu Foods Web site at menufoods.com Two other pet food companies -- Nestle Purina and Hill's Pet Nutrition -- are voluntarily recalling some of their products that are made by Menu Foods. Officials are warning pet owners to immediately stop feeding the contaminated foods to their pets and said owners should see their pets' veterinarians if they develop signs of kidney failure, including loss of appetite, vomiting or lethargy. Meanwhile, the recall has animal owners worried and scrambling to find substitutes. Paul Castronovo, who is the weekday morning radio host on 105.9 F.M. in Miami, said his cat is in renal failure and it could be from the food, reported WPLG-TV in Miami Sunday morning we woke up and the cat couldn't move or hold its head up, Castronovo said. We said, 'Well, let's take her to the emergency room.' At that point, I grabbed the newspaper and I noticed the headline that dogs and cat food recall. We both panicked and looked it up and it made me sick to my stomach. I saw that we served her Iams. It was the exact lot number. She's in complete renal failure. A New Jersey woman became concerned when the four types of Iams products she buys for her cat, Smokey, had vanished from shelves. She said Smokey is very sick and hasn't been eating for days. In Nebraska, another woman said she sometimes feeds her five cats packets of sliced meat and gravy sold by one of the brands affected. She said her cat, Boots, seems to have lost its appetite in the past few days. *Here is a link to the AVMA that is offering advice.* *http://www.pr-inside.com/avma-offers-advice-to-pet-owners-r71034.htm* *Please read this is has interesting information regarding the recalls and media.* *http://www.howl911.com/* ** In a message dated 3/21/2007 8:04:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where is this estimate from? Also, can anyone tell me how long before onset of symtoms from the tainted food, or how much or how little of the food might have an impact? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** *It is estimated 1 out of every 6 is affected by these foods that will die.* ** *Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/*
Re: Looking for a good canned food
I too have a house full of finicky eaters that won't touch anything that's priced above a $1 a can. It's very frustrating trying to convince them that it's good for them and that mommy is sick of purchasing expensive canned cat food to feed to the dogs. They all love the Innova Evo dry, and they also like the Solid Gold Katz-n-Flocken. All this talk about canned food reminded me of a brand that my cats did like but I was unable to find nearby with any regularity. It's called Triumph. I just found an online pet store that offers a ton of varieties: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/ Check the ingredients list though, some seem better than others. A couple of them have onion powder/salt added, and I've always heard that was a no no. Pet food direct also sells the dry I use at a slightly lower price than where I'm getting it now, (onlynaturalpet.com). I'm going to check shipping costs and see which is truly cheaper before I order. Nina Debbie wrote: Anyone know a really good canned food that cats can't seem to resist? Our cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any suggestions? Debbie http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/
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If it were food poisoning and the food was no longer being given, then I would think that within a week or so you would be in the clear..If a cat had not been given any of the brands on the list for several weeks, and had been eating other things, I would think you would be safe. But I can't find this info anywhere. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to find this out as well. I'm assuming within a few weeks up to a few months depends on the immune system of cats and dogs I guess. In a message dated 3/21/2007 9:06:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any idea how long after eating tainted foods that symtoms might appear? Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/ - AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
Re: petfood recall questions
I saw where Science Diet is doing a voluntary recall on their Feline Savory Cuts because it was co-manufactured by Menu Foods. I just called because I have a dog on Hills K/D and a cat on Hills X/D. I wanted to be sure that Menu Foods wasn't involved in these foods in anyway. I was assured they were not. The rest of my crew eat Friskies (Fancy Feast), 9Lives and Pedigree. This is getting scary. Who knows what is safe anymore. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to find this out as well. I'm assuming within a few weeks up to a few months depends on the immune system of cats and dogs I guess. In a message dated 3/21/2007 9:06:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any idea how long after eating tainted foods that symtoms might appear? Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html
Re: petfood recall questions
According to my cats, roasted turkey, baked skinless boneless chicken breasts, and just about anything else that I might eat is very safe for them. They have encouraged me to buy accordingly. cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw where Science Diet is doing a voluntary recall on their Feline Savory Cuts because it was co-manufactured by Menu Foods. I just called because I have a dog on Hills K/D and a cat on Hills X/D. I wanted to be sure that Menu Foods wasn't involved in these foods in anyway. I was assured they were not. The rest of my crew eat Friskies (Fancy Feast), 9Lives and Pedigree. This is getting scary. Who knows what is safe anymore. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to find this out as well. I'm assuming within a few weeks up to a few months depends on the immune system of cats and dogs I guess. In a message dated 3/21/2007 9:06:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any idea how long after eating tainted foods that symtoms might appear? Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html
Re: petfood recall questions
Here we go.tinyurl.com/ywt5fz While most of the animals died within a few days of eating the product, Sundlof said he couldnÂ’t rule out the onset of symptoms several weeks after an animal had consumed the toxin. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to find this out as well. I'm assuming within a few weeks up to a few months depends on the immune system of cats and dogs I guess. In a message dated 3/21/2007 9:06:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any idea how long after eating tainted foods that symtoms might appear? Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/ - AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
Re: petfood recall questions
what's REALLY scary about that, tho, susan, is how badly the human food sources are policed. salmonella, toxo, e-coli... On 3/21/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to my cats, roasted turkey, baked skinless boneless chicken breasts, and just about anything else that I might eat is very safe for them. They have encouraged me to buy accordingly. *cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I saw where Science Diet is doing a voluntary recall on their Feline Savory Cuts because it was co-manufactured by Menu Foods. I just called because I have a dog on Hills K/D and a cat on Hills X/D. I wanted to be sure that Menu Foods wasn't involved in these foods in anyway. I was assured they were not. The rest of my crew eat Friskies (Fancy Feast), 9Lives and Pedigree. This is getting scary. Who knows what is safe anymore. Cindy Reasoner --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to find this out as well. I'm assuming within a few weeks up to a few months depends on the immune system of cats and dogs I guess. In a message dated 3/21/2007 9:06:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any idea how long after eating tainted foods that symtoms might appear? Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ ( https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html ) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html ) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Mama Kitty
Thanks, MC. I just talked to my vet's office -- the Acemannan is already here so we go this afternoon for the first injection. I told them I was concerned because I didn't see her drink water last night or this morning. They said that she might not be thirsty for about 12 hours after the fluids but that they will probably give her more fluids today. On 3/21/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for anyone giving fluids regularly (for crf, etc) you can add the vitamin b complex or whatever to the fluids--3ccs per bag. makes the fluids a rather odd color, but the cats don't seem to mind... i do injectible b-complex shots when necessary--it's so hard to get pills and liquids into the teeny-tiny persian mouth, and they really don't seem to mind the injections very much. (she says, ignoring that still-healing bite on her left index finger where the siberian took exception to her depo/b-complex shot of two weeks ago.) MC On 3/21/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's definitely worth a try. There's got to be a sneaky way to do it :0) elizabeth On 3/21/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elizabeth, She still may not like the taste, it's the vitamin B that has the overpowering taste. Maybe you can try adding some to tuna juice, I think the dose is a 1/4 teaspoon twice a day. I just put some in Fred's food when I make a batch. He gets fed through the feeding tube so no fuss from him:) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com http://hostdesign4u.com/ BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
RE: Mama Kitty
If they are injecting into her tummy - make sure that that the vet is very careful as my JoJo got very sick from the injection - I think it hit the wrong spot in his tummy -- _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth trent Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:21 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Mama Kitty Thanks, MC. I just talked to my vet's office -- the Acemannan is already here so we go this afternoon for the first injection. I told them I was concerned because I didn't see her drink water last night or this morning. They said that she might not be thirsty for about 12 hours after the fluids but that they will probably give her more fluids today. On 3/21/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for anyone giving fluids regularly (for crf, etc) you can add the vitamin b complex or whatever to the fluids--3ccs per bag. makes the fluids a rather odd color, but the cats don't seem to mind... i do injectible b-complex shots when necessary--it's so hard to get pills and liquids into the teeny-tiny persian mouth, and they really don't seem to mind the injections very much. (she says, ignoring that still-healing bite on her left index finger where the siberian took exception to her depo/b-complex shot of two weeks ago.) MC On 3/21/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's definitely worth a try. There's got to be a sneaky way to do it :0) elizabeth On 3/21/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elizabeth, She still may not like the taste, it's the vitamin B that has the overpowering taste. Maybe you can try adding some to tuna juice, I think the dose is a 1/4 teaspoon twice a day. I just put some in Fred's food when I make a batch. He gets fed through the feeding tube so no fuss from him:) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com http://bemikitties.com/ Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com http://adopt.bemikitties.com/ FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com http://hostdesign4u.com/ BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com http://bmk.bemikitties.com/ -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Mama Kitty
I am so sorry to hear that about JoJo, Hideyo. Am I remembering correctly - isn't JoJo your dog? Do you still have him? We didn't have any problems last summer when we first started using this drug but it does look like it could be a very tricky type of injection to give. elizabeth On 3/21/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they are injecting into her tummy – make sure that that the vet is very careful as my JoJo got very sick from the injection – I think it hit the wrong spot in his tummy -- -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *elizabeth trent *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:21 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: Mama Kitty Thanks, MC. I just talked to my vet's office -- the Acemannan is already here so we go this afternoon for the first injection. I told them I was concerned because I didn't see her drink water last night or this morning. They said that she might not be thirsty for about 12 hours after the fluids but that they will probably give her more fluids today. On 3/21/07, *TenHouseCats* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for anyone giving fluids regularly (for crf, etc) you can add the vitamin b complex or whatever to the fluids--3ccs per bag. makes the fluids a rather odd color, but the cats don't seem to mind... i do injectible b-complex shots when necessary--it's so hard to get pills and liquids into the teeny-tiny persian mouth, and they really don't seem to mind the injections very much. (she says, ignoring that still-healing bite on her left index finger where the siberian took exception to her depo/b-complex shot of two weeks ago.) MC On 3/21/07, *elizabeth trent* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's definitely worth a try. There's got to be a sneaky way to do it :0) elizabeth On 3/21/07, *Belinda* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elizabeth, She still may not like the taste, it's the vitamin B that has the overpowering taste. Maybe you can try adding some to tuna juice, I think the dose is a 1/4 teaspoon twice a day. I just put some in Fred's food when I make a batch. He gets fed through the feeding tube so no fuss from him:) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com http://hostdesign4u.com/ BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Felv testing dilemma
Thank you for your replies. I wish I could take the chance and integrate this kitty, but, I do TNR in my town and as a result have ended up with a home full of non-adoptable rescues and adoptable I am trying to find homes for and risking them is not an option. This kitty lives in the spare room with a vaccinated cat, but it's just one small room. The rest of the rescues live in the rest of the house with me. Vaccinating all of them is not an option as it would be too costly, and it would be yearly, which would add to the cost factor and could increase the chance that one or more could end up with an injection site sarcoma. AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
Re: Looking for a good canned food
I have 10 inside tastes differ among all. But Wellness Turkey or Wellness Chicken is way up on the list. Some will eat the Felidae canned. Most will eat the Friskies Turkey Filets that someone else mentioned And also PetGuard's Fish, Chicken Liver (that's one variety not 3!) Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: My kids eat the felidae canned just fine. But I have heard other people say their cats do not. I think it is a process of trying different things until y ou find one they like. Mine hear a can - any can - opening and they go nuts! Kelley On 3/21/07, *Debbie* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I will try your suggestions. I am at a loss. All she wants to eat right now is dry Purina Indoor Formula. I went out and bought some real expensive dry foods and hardly any of our cats would eat them. We were feeding Friskies Pacific Salmon, but everyone was throwing it up - it was the same last night with the Friskies Whitefish and Tuna! When I was a kid and we had cats outside and they would have eaten anything that they could get. I guess we have pampered our guys now too much. Thanks again Susan. By the way - do you mind if I ask where you are from? I know a Susan Hoffman here locally in Ohio. Debbie http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/ -Original Message- From: Susan Hoffman Sent: Mar 21, 2007 9:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Looking for a good canned food While it may be largely a matter of personal taste, I've had a couple of very finicky eaters who wanted to subsist on Friskies turkey prime fillets. Also, Marie, the ultimate finicky eater, can tell the difference between Friskies regular chicken in gravy and the senior formula/special diet formulation of Friskies chicken in gravy. She prefers the senior formula/special diet variety and won't touch the other. (Marie is 9 years old. She has never eaten a single morsel of dry food in her life. And I'm sure she never will. At this point, if ever I saw her eat dry food, I'd rush her to the vet. She eats strictly Friskies prime filllet varieties, and senior formula or special diet chicken in gravy.) */Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Anyone know a really good canned food that cats can't seem to resist? Our cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any suggestions? Debbie http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/ -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
Here's are some pretty good articles about it: http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=AS=0C=0A=1390 http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_imha.html *the two articles above are very similar in information* http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/60205.htm -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: petfood recall questions
Most animals are getting sick right away, they are getting acute renal failure which happens very quickly as if they were poisoned ... and well they have been. Symptoms include vomiting, leathargy and diarrhea. If you suspect your pet may have eaten any of the tainted food or even if you don't since they may add more to the list in the future, I would get them to a vet. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: pics added
Your gang is gorgeous!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: pics added
Thanks Belinda. I know I am proud of them all. I appreciate you looking at them. Most were bottle babies. -Original Message- From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mar 20, 2007 4:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: pics added Your gang is gorgeous!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Update - making progress w/ vets
Hi all! First of all, I need to say again how absolutely AMAZING this list is Thank you so much for being here and for all your support and advice. And special thanks to Barb for IMing me (if anyone else feels like chatting, I'm on yahoo at disablednproud77 and on aim at disablednproud)!!! :) I made a ton of calls this morning and have made a bit of progress in finding a new vet. Thanks so much to all of you who recommended people and sent links! I'm still waiting for some vets to call me back, but I found one very near my house (can even get there on the metro which is good since I don't have a car) who said she'd look at the articles I have (I faxed them to her) and that she'd be willing to try things as long as I am aware it may not work (well duh!!). Her prices are also REALLY reasonable, so that helps a lot! I also spoke with the vet I had taken him to at Banfield. He said that he didn't think there was anything that would help, but if I faxed him my research info, he'd take a look and if it looked good he'd make sure I got whatever scrips I needed for things I wanted to try. That's good news because I'm still on their wellness plan, so if we do IR or something, I can go there for the treatments and not have to pay for the office visit! :) Dad said to call him from the vet and he'll give them his credit card number...I'll start paying him back when I get paid next week. Whew! God is good. Still no idea what will work, but I'm glad to be making progress!!! Thanks for all the suggestions and help everyone!!! Hugs! Marissa - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Question: Interferon (Alpha, Omega, etc.) Now? Others?
Hi all! As I'm getting ready for this evening's vet appointment, I realize I have lots of research on IR, Epogen, and Doxy...but not much on some of the other things I've heard about on this list (namely Interferon and Acemannan). Is Interferon something that could be helpful at this stage, or is it something you give before they get sick to prevent the virus from becoming active? I've heard of Alpha and Omega...is there a difference, if so, which do I use? Also, what about Acemannan? I read on www.felineleukemia.com that it can be helpful in combo with Interferon. What do you all know or think about using it at this stage (now that he's already sick)? Any info would be MUCH appreciated! THANK YOU!!! MJ and Slinky :) - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
RE: Question: Interferon (Alpha, Omega, etc.) Now? Others?
I read a study where FOI (feline omega interferon) was used among sick felk kitties and the study did prove that it did help even among sick kitties. Alpha is human interferon and you give it orally - FOI is feline interferon and you can give it as an inject able usually. You can only get it from other countries and they are expensive, but it's more effective than alpha - and also a kitty will develop antibody to human one so it won't be effective after a couple of months. My vet order directly from UK and I get it in a few days - you are supposed to have DFDA approval letter - but you don't need it - I have gotten about 10 shipments so far without FDA letter with no problem. Good luck _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa Johnson Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Question: Interferon (Alpha, Omega, etc.) Now? Others? Hi all! As I'm getting ready for this evening's vet appointment, I realize I have lots of research on IR, Epogen, and Doxy...but not much on some of the other things I've heard about on this list (namely Interferon and Acemannan). Is Interferon something that could be helpful at this stage, or is it something you give before they get sick to prevent the virus from becoming active? I've heard of Alpha and Omega...is there a difference, if so, which do I use? Also, what about Acemannan? I read on www.felineleukemia.com that it can be helpful in combo with Interferon. What do you all know or think about using it at this stage (now that he's already sick)? Any info would be MUCH appreciated! THANK YOU!!! MJ and Slinky :) _ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49982/*http:/advision.webevents.yahoo.com/ma ilbeta/newmail_tools.html Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49982/*http:/advision.webevents.yahoo.com/ma ilbeta/newmail_tools.html
RE: Question: Interferon (Alpha, Omega, etc.) Now? Others?
Interferon is basically anti-viral agent and try to attack different virus in their body.. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Question: Interferon (Alpha, Omega, etc.) Now? Others? I read a study where FOI (feline omega interferon) was used among sick felk kitties and the study did prove that it did help even among sick kitties. Alpha is human interferon and you give it orally - FOI is feline interferon and you can give it as an inject able usually. You can only get it from other countries and they are expensive, but it's more effective than alpha - and also a kitty will develop antibody to human one so it won't be effective after a couple of months. My vet order directly from UK and I get it in a few days - you are supposed to have DFDA approval letter - but you don't need it - I have gotten about 10 shipments so far without FDA letter with no problem. Good luck _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa Johnson Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Question: Interferon (Alpha, Omega, etc.) Now? Others? Hi all! As I'm getting ready for this evening's vet appointment, I realize I have lots of research on IR, Epogen, and Doxy...but not much on some of the other things I've heard about on this list (namely Interferon and Acemannan). Is Interferon something that could be helpful at this stage, or is it something you give before they get sick to prevent the virus from becoming active? I've heard of Alpha and Omega...is there a difference, if so, which do I use? Also, what about Acemannan? I read on www.felineleukemia.com that it can be helpful in combo with Interferon. What do you all know or think about using it at this stage (now that he's already sick)? Any info would be MUCH appreciated! THANK YOU!!! MJ and Slinky :) _ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49982/*http:/advision.webevents.yahoo.com/ma ilbeta/newmail_tools.html Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49982/*http:/advision.webevents.yahoo.com/ma ilbeta/newmail_tools.html
RE: Question: Interferon (Alpha, Omega, etc.) Now? Others?
Thanks Hideyo! Can you give me an idea of the cost to have it shipped from the
UK? Also, where do you order it from? Thanks!!!
MJ
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anti-viral agent and try to attack different virus in their body..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Question: Interferon (Alpha, Omega, etc.) Now? Others?
I read a study where FOI (feline omega interferon) was used among sick felk
kitties and the study did prove that it did help even among sick kitties.
Alpha is human interferon and you give it orally – FOI is feline interferon and
you can give it as an inject able usually. You can only get it from other
countries and they are expensive, but it’s more effective than alpha – and also
a kitty will develop antibody to human one so it wonÂ’t be effective after a
couple of months.
My vet order directly from UK and I get it in a few days – you are supposed
to have DFDA approval letter – but you don’t need it – I have gotten about 10
shipments so far without FDA letter with no problem. Good luck
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Question: Interferon (Alpha, Omega, etc.) Now? Others?
Hi all! As I'm getting ready for this evening's vet appointment, I realize
I have lots of research on IR, Epogen, and Doxy...but not much on some of the
other things I've heard about on this list (namely Interferon and Acemannan).
Is Interferon something that could be helpful at this stage, or is it
something you give before they get sick to prevent the virus from becoming
active? I've heard of Alpha and Omega...is there a difference, if so, which do
I use?
Also, what about Acemannan? I read on www.felineleukemia.com that it can
be helpful in combo with Interferon. What do you all know or think about using
it at this stage (now that he's already sick)?
Any info would be MUCH appreciated! THANK YOU!!!
MJ and Slinky :)
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Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition. Her vets were wonderful but the steroids took their toll. However, my alternative vet was very helpful and able to get the condition under control for a pretty good length of time. You might investigate this avenue. Mai Mai left this world over 5 years ago and treatments may well have improved. Good luck and blessings to you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/ this disease... But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it.. What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him. Just laying around, sleeping alot. So, I took him to my vet. Was devastated when I got results!!! Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I learned doing my research) We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff. prescriptions!), etc., etc. Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally had my boy PTS.. He could no longer walk, even get up. And, the chemo drugs made him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to do!!! I ended up hand-feeding him. He developed ulcerations in his mouth because of all he had to take. It got to the point where I was hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a big boy..) In the end, my former big boy weighed only around 60 lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his weight) It broke my heart, but I'm even more heartbroken about all I put him through. I did it for me - I didn't want to lose him. But, after all I put him thru, I did lose him. We humans can be so selfish. After losing Bear [in a HORRIBLE way- treatment was probably worse than the disease!], I made a promise to ALL my babies, I would never let them suffer. Found out, the hard way, that in loving the most important thing is knowing when to let go.. Sorry this wasn't about Feline AIHA, but I just had to share what I know [sadly, only TOO well] about the disease. Best wishes for your baby. Hugs, Patti her gang (Which DOES include another Rottie!) -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
How did you confirm the diagnosis? Is it with coombs test? _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition. Her vets were wonderful but the steroids took their toll. However, my alternative vet was very helpful and able to get the condition under control for a pretty good length of time. You might investigate this avenue. Mai Mai left this world over 5 years ago and treatments may well have improved. Good luck and blessings to you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/ this disease... But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it.. What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him. Just laying around, sleeping alot. So, I took him to my vet. Was devastated when I got results!!! Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I learned doing my research) We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff. prescriptions!), etc., etc. Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally had my boy PTS.. He could no longer walk, even get up. And, the chemo drugs made him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to do!!! I ended up hand-feeding him. He developed ulcerations in his mouth because of all he had to take. It got to the point where I was hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a big boy..) In the end, my former big boy weighed only around 60 lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his weight) It broke my heart, but I'm even more heartbroken about all I put him through. I did it for me - I didn't want to lose him. But, after all I put him thru, I did lose him. We humans can be so selfish. After losing Bear [in a HORRIBLE way- treatment was probably worse than the disease!], I made a promise to ALL my babies, I would never let them suffer. Found out, the hard way, that in loving the most important thing is knowing when to let go.. Sorry this wasn't about Feline AIHA, but I just had to share what I know [sadly, only TOO well] about the disease. Best wishes for your baby. Hugs, Patti her gang (Which DOES include another Rottie!) http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/clip_art/gstres/anmls/cat _ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339 .
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Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
He did a cbc. wbc 21.5, mono 1.85, neu 18.44, hct 15.3, rbc 3.23, hgb 8.5, rdw 22.3, mch 26.36, plt 731, amyl 1743, bun 48, glob 7.5, tp 10.1 He did not do a coombs test. This is s difficult for me, but his is a 10 year old rescue/foster cat with a life-threatening disease. My bill today was $244. I am going to treat him as aggressively as I can, but this could easily cost me $2,000 without the coombs test. He goes back next Monday for another CBC. I cannot spend all my money on this one cat, because if a different one becomes sick after this and I spend all my money on Joey and he dies:( I wont' have any money to treat the cat I could save. He is on 20 mg of prednisolone a day and doxycycline. He fought me hard to get the pills down so maybe he will do better than I fear. His prognosis is guarded:( On 3/21/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How did you confirm the diagnosis? Is it with coombs test? -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Marylyn *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:48 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition. Her vets were wonderful but the steroids took their toll. However, my alternative vet was very helpful and able to get the condition under control for a pretty good length of time. You might investigate this avenue. Mai Mai left this world over 5 years ago and treatments may well have improved. Good luck and blessings to you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:57 AM *Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/ this disease... But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it.. What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him. Just laying around, sleeping alot. So, I took him to my vet. Was devastated when I got results!!! Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I learned doing my research) We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff. prescriptions!), etc., etc. Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally had my boy PTS.. He could no longer walk, even get up. And, the chemo drugs made him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to do!!! I ended up hand-feeding him. He developed ulcerations in his mouth because of all he *had* to take. It got to the point where I was hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a big boy..) In the end, my former big boy weighed only around 60 lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his weight) It broke my heart, but I'm even more heartbroken about all I put him through. I did it for me - I didn't want to lose him. But, after all I put him thru, I did lose him. We humans can be so selfish. After losing Bear [in a HORRIBLE way- treatment was probably worse than the disease!], I made a promise to ALL my babies, I would never let them suffer. Found out, the hard way, that in loving the most important thing is *knowing* when to let go.. Sorry this wasn't about Feline AIHA, but I just had to share what I know [sadly, only TOO well] about the disease. Best wishes for your baby. Hugs, Patti her gang (Which DOES include another Rottie!) -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
It has been so long I really don't remember. I am very sure it was whatever the best available at the time was. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: RE: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia How did you confirm the diagnosis? Is it with coombs test? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition. Her vets were wonderful but the steroids took their toll. However, my alternative vet was very helpful and able to get the condition under control for a pretty good length of time. You might investigate this avenue. Mai Mai left this world over 5 years ago and treatments may well have improved. Good luck and blessings to you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/ this disease... But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it.. What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him. Just laying around, sleeping alot. So, I took him to my vet. Was devastated when I got results!!! Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I learned doing my research) We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff. prescriptions!), etc., etc. Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally had my boy PTS.. He could no longer walk, even get up. And, the chemo drugs made him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to do!!! I ended up hand-feeding him. He developed ulcerations in his mouth because of all he had to take. It got to the point where I was hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a big boy..) In the end, my former big boy weighed only around 60 lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his weight) It broke my heart, but I'm even more heartbroken about all I put him through. I did it for me - I didn't want to lose him. But, after all I put him thru, I did lose him. We humans can be so selfish. After losing Bear [in a HORRIBLE way- treatment was probably worse than the disease!], I made a promise to ALL my babies, I would never let them suffer. Found out, the hard way, that in loving the most important thing is knowing when to let go.. Sorry this wasn't about Feline AIHA, but I just had to share what I know [sadly, only TOO well] about the disease. Best wishes for your baby. Hugs, Patti her gang (Which DOES include another Rottie!) AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
Thank you Marylyn. He actually seems much better today than he did yesterday, though he only had his medicines about 30 minutes ago. I only know one alternative vet in town and she is a cardiologist. I iwll see if I can find more. On 3/21/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition. Her vets were wonderful but the steroids took their toll. However, my alternative vet was very helpful and able to get the condition under control for a pretty good length of time. You might investigate this avenue. Mai Mai left this world over 5 years ago and treatments may well have improved. Good luck and blessings to you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:57 AM *Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/ this disease... But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it.. What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him. Just laying around, sleeping alot. So, I took him to my vet. Was devastated when I got results!!! Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I learned doing my research) We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff. prescriptions!), etc., etc. Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally had my boy PTS.. He could no longer walk, even get up. And, the chemo drugs made him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to do!!! I ended up hand-feeding him. He developed ulcerations in his mouth because of all he *had* to take. It got to the point where I was hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a big boy..) In the end, my former big boy weighed only around 60 lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his weight) It broke my heart, but I'm even more heartbroken about all I put him through. I did it for me - I didn't want to lose him. But, after all I put him thru, I did lose him. We humans can be so selfish. After losing Bear [in a HORRIBLE way- treatment was probably worse than the disease!], I made a promise to ALL my babies, I would never let them suffer. Found out, the hard way, that in loving the most important thing is *knowing* when to let go.. Sorry this wasn't about Feline AIHA, but I just had to share what I know [sadly, only TOO well] about the disease. Best wishes for your baby. Hugs, Patti her gang (Which DOES include another Rottie!) -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
I did find an AC who does pro bono work for rescues to let me know what he wants to do if a decision becomes necessary. On 3/21/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Marylyn. He actually seems much better today than he did yesterday, though he only had his medicines about 30 minutes ago. I only know one alternative vet in town and she is a cardiologist. I iwll see if I can find more. On 3/21/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition. Her vets were wonderful but the steroids took their toll. However, my alternative vet was very helpful and able to get the condition under control for a pretty good length of time. You might investigate this avenue. Mai Mai left this world over 5 years ago and treatments may well have improved. Good luck and blessings to you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:57 AM *Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/ this disease... But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it.. What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him. Just laying around, sleeping alot. So, I took him to my vet. Was devastated when I got results!!! Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I learned doing my research) We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff. prescriptions!), etc., etc. Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally had my boy PTS.. He could no longer walk, even get up. And, the chemo drugs made him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to do!!! I ended up hand-feeding him. He developed ulcerations in his mouth because of all he *had* to take. It got to the point where I was hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a big boy..) In the end, my former big boy weighed only around 60 lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his weight) It broke my heart, but I'm even more heartbroken about all I put him through. I did it for me - I didn't want to lose him. But, after all I put him thru, I did lose him. We humans can be so selfish. After losing Bear [in a HORRIBLE way- treatment was probably worse than the disease!], I made a promise to ALL my babies, I would never let them suffer. Found out, the hard way, that in loving the most important thing is *knowing* when to let go.. Sorry this wasn't about Feline AIHA, but I just had to share what I know [sadly, only TOO well] about the disease. Best wishes for your baby. Hugs, Patti her gang (Which DOES include another Rottie!) -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Mama Kitty - back from the vet's just now
Mama Kitty and I just got home from the vet's office. The Acemannan came in (less than 24 hours - that was very good). I knew Mama was feeling a bit better this afternoon because she did put up some protest about going to the vet's today. They took her temperature and her fever is gone! She got more fluids today. She was more vocal today -- that is much more like her. Instead of taking us to one of the patient rooms - they took us straight back to where they do procedures and surgery. I've been going there a long time so I guess they know I'm not going to get in the way. Dr. Reid is a wonder about giving those shots that go through the skin and directly into the stomach. The vet tech holds her standing up and he does the shot. My doctor said that actually a shot like this is less painful than one that goes under the skin -- he explained about why and the nerves in the skin, etc. We're scheduled every Wednesday for the next month or so to come in for one of these shots. Maybe it is my imagination - but I could swear that by the time we got home - Mama was feeling even better. The first thing she did was have a few bites of salmon. Dr. Reid is concerned about her drinking enough water so I will be keeping an eye on that. He recommends making ice cubes from chicken stock (not the low sodium kind)you put the ice cube in a bowl or plate for them. They can play with it - but also they won't drink it too fast. My understanding is that the sodium in the broth makes them more thirsty and so they will drink more water. (I don't think you should use stock that is made with onions because anything from the allium family is taboo for kitties). So - thanks for everyone who sent well wishes and thought of us. I am cautiously optimistic. Mama Kitty is on the porch sunbathing (since mean ol' mommy made her stay inside today while she was away). We'll keep you posted.
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
Kelley Here is an excellent article on AIHA. It's written for dogs but it can probably be applied to cats as well. It's got a lot of information. I'll see what else I can find too. Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi all, Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month, has been diagnosed with Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia. I'm really concerned about him. I feel bad because I think I should have noticed something sooner. What information can yall give me about this disease? It is my understanding this disease is more common in FELV+ cats. Thanks, -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
The AC may be able to tell you what the little darling thinks would help--med wise, food wise etc. It is amazing what critters know about their own health. Dixie Louise had been spayed (she was a throw away with no visible scar). She maintained, repeatedly and loudly, with several ACs I know that she had been to the vet's before and didn't like it at all and -well, the long and short of it was that I insisted on a hormone test. My vet thought I was nuts to spend that kind of money on a cat he just knew needed to be spayed. I would have loved a picture of his face when he called and said Dixie was either a male or a spayed female. Have the AC talk to your little friend now. You may be surprised. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 5:20 PM Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia I did find an AC who does pro bono work for rescues to let me know what he wants to do if a decision becomes necessary. On 3/21/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Marylyn. He actually seems much better today than he did yesterday, though he only had his medicines about 30 minutes ago. I only know one alternative vet in town and she is a cardiologist. I iwll see if I can find more. On 3/21/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition. Her vets were wonderful but the steroids took their toll. However, my alternative vet was very helpful and able to get the condition under control for a pretty good length of time. You might investigate this avenue. Mai Mai left this world over 5 years ago and treatments may well have improved. Good luck and blessings to you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/ this disease... But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it.. What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him. Just laying around, sleeping alot. So, I took him to my vet. Was devastated when I got results!!! Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I learned doing my research) We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff. prescriptions!), etc., etc. Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally had my boy PTS.. He could no longer walk, even get up. And, the chemo drugs made him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to do!!! I ended up hand-feeding him. He developed ulcerations in his mouth because of all he had to take. It got to the point where I was hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a big boy..) In the end, my former big boy weighed only around 60 lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his weight) It broke my heart, but I'm even more heartbroken about all I put him through. I did it for me - I didn't want to lose him. But, after all I put him thru, I did lose him. We humans can be so selfish. After losing Bear [in a HORRIBLE way- treatment was probably worse than the disease!], I made a promise to ALL my babies, I would never let them suffer. Found out, the hard way, that in loving the most important thing is knowing when to let go.. Sorry this wasn't about Feline AIHA, but I just had to share what I know [sadly, only TOO well] about the disease. Best wishes for your baby. Hugs, Patti her gang (Which DOES include another Rottie!) AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
Here's some more links: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/9352/alphalinks.html http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002PID=2599 Pam Kelley Saveika wrote: Hi all, Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month, has been diagnosed with Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia. I'm really concerned about him. I feel bad because I think I should have noticed something sooner. What information can yall give me about this disease? It is my understanding this disease is more common in FELV+ cats. Thanks, -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
ALferon PDF
Anyone who wants me to forward a copy of the pDF on ALferon ( natural interferon please let me know,,and where to get it. Kelly Lane
Re: Looking for a good canned food
Fancy Feast is always a big hit here. When they are sick they seem to prefer the ones that are just the regular pate (not minced, grilled, or marinated - those they just eat the gravy). Otherwise, the 'Sardines, Shrimp and Crab in aspic' (orange label) is the hands down favorite. The new fancy feast medleys with the garden greens are scarfed up immediately and promptly regurgitated...the yellow fin tuna being the favorite there. Mama Kitty is going through an FeVL+ crash and not wanting to eat. I opened up a pouch of Chicken of the Sea brand Salmon -- just the plain kind - no marinade -- she will eat that when she won't eat anything else. Kitty kisses to Cassie, elizabeth On 3/21/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know a really good canned food that cats can't seem to resist? Our cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any suggestions? Debbie http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/
Re: Mama Kitty - back from the vet's just now
At 03:32 PM 3/21/2007, you wrote: wonderful! Mama Kitty and I just got home from the vet's office. The Acemannan came in (less than 24 hours - that was very good). I knew Mama was feeling a bit better this afternoon because she did put up some protest about going to the vet's today. They took her temperature and her fever is gone! She got more fluids today. She was more vocal today -- that is much more like her. Instead of taking us to one of the patient rooms - they took us straight back to where they do procedures and surgery. I've been going there a long time so I guess they know I'm not going to get in the way. Dr. Reid is a wonder about giving those shots that go through the skin and directly into the stomach. The vet tech holds her standing up and he does the shot. My doctor said that actually a shot like this is less painful than one that goes under the skin -- he explained about why and the nerves in the skin, etc. We're scheduled every Wednesday for the next month or so to come in for one of these shots. Maybe it is my imagination - but I could swear that by the time we got home - Mama was feeling even better. The first thing she did was have a few bites of salmon. Dr. Reid is concerned about her drinking enough water so I will be keeping an eye on that. He recommends making ice cubes from chicken stock (not the low sodium kind)you put the ice cube in a bowl or plate for them. They can play with it - but also they won't drink it too fast. My understanding is that the sodium in the broth makes them more thirsty and so they will drink more water. (I don't think you should use stock that is made with onions because anything from the allium family is taboo for kitties). So - thanks for everyone who sent well wishes and thought of us. I am cautiously optimistic. Mama Kitty is on the porch sunbathing (since mean ol' mommy made her stay inside today while she was away). We'll keep you posted. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.13/726 - Release Date: 3/18/2007
Re: Mama Kitty - back from the vet's just now
always wonderful when they get hissy about going to the vet, isn't it? sending lots of love and GLOW to both of you, but can't talk--just noticed a HUGE thunderstorm coming in! On 3/21/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mama Kitty and I just got home from the vet's office. The Acemannan came in (less than 24 hours - that was very good). I knew Mama was feeling a bit better this afternoon because she did put up some protest about going to the vet's today. They took her temperature and her fever is gone! She got more fluids today. She was more vocal today -- that is much more like her. Instead of taking us to one of the patient rooms - they took us straight back to where they do procedures and surgery. I've been going there a long time so I guess they know I'm not going to get in the way. Dr. Reid is a wonder about giving those shots that go through the skin and directly into the stomach. The vet tech holds her standing up and he does the shot. My doctor said that actually a shot like this is less painful than one that goes under the skin -- he explained about why and the nerves in the skin, etc. We're scheduled every Wednesday for the next month or so to come in for one of these shots. Maybe it is my imagination - but I could swear that by the time we got home - Mama was feeling even better. The first thing she did was have a few bites of salmon. Dr. Reid is concerned about her drinking enough water so I will be keeping an eye on that. He recommends making ice cubes from chicken stock (not the low sodium kind)you put the ice cube in a bowl or plate for them. They can play with it - but also they won't drink it too fast. My understanding is that the sodium in the broth makes them more thirsty and so they will drink more water. (I don't think you should use stock that is made with onions because anything from the allium family is taboo for kitties). So - thanks for everyone who sent well wishes and thought of us. I am cautiously optimistic. Mama Kitty is on the porch sunbathing (since mean ol' mommy made her stay inside today while she was away). We'll keep you posted. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Mama Kitty - back from the vet's just now
Thank you! And stay safe! elizabeth On 3/21/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: always wonderful when they get hissy about going to the vet, isn't it? sending lots of love and GLOW to both of you, but can't talk--just noticed a HUGE thunderstorm coming in! On 3/21/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mama Kitty and I just got home from the vet's office. The Acemannan came in (less than 24 hours - that was very good). I knew Mama was feeling a bit better this afternoon because she did put up some protest about going to the vet's today. They took her temperature and her fever is gone! She got more fluids today. She was more vocal today -- that is much more like her. Instead of taking us to one of the patient rooms - they took us straight back to where they do procedures and surgery. I've been going there a long time so I guess they know I'm not going to get in the way. Dr. Reid is a wonder about giving those shots that go through the skin and directly into the stomach. The vet tech holds her standing up and he does the shot. My doctor said that actually a shot like this is less painful than one that goes under the skin -- he explained about why and the nerves in the skin, etc. We're scheduled every Wednesday for the next month or so to come in for one of these shots. Maybe it is my imagination - but I could swear that by the time we got home - Mama was feeling even better. The first thing she did was have a few bites of salmon. Dr. Reid is concerned about her drinking enough water so I will be keeping an eye on that. He recommends making ice cubes from chicken stock (not the low sodium kind)you put the ice cube in a bowl or plate for them. They can play with it - but also they won't drink it too fast. My understanding is that the sodium in the broth makes them more thirsty and so they will drink more water. (I don't think you should use stock that is made with onions because anything from the allium family is taboo for kitties). So - thanks for everyone who sent well wishes and thought of us. I am cautiously optimistic. Mama Kitty is on the porch sunbathing (since mean ol' mommy made her stay inside today while she was away). We'll keep you posted. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Update - making progress w/ vets
Marissa - this is awesome news! (very cool screen name, by the way). Please give your 'dad' a big hug from mehe sounds like my dad -- only the most perfect man on the planet... Having a vet you can trust is worth so much. I'm so very lucky that even though my vet was trained 'Old School' -- he still is willing to hang in there with me and he is open to new ideas. When I told him about the Acemannan - a new drug - he did his own research too and had access to information that I couldn't possibly access. We may be a small community - but I would recommend him to anyone in this area (North Alabama -- Athens/Madison/Huntsville). He has a vet tech that I totally admire too who is v e r y blunt and direct. She'll tell you like it is and won't sugar coat anything. In my mind -- that is what I need when I am dealing with a difficult situation. I want the facts - and the truth. I may not always agree with her - but I can always understand where she is coming from and she has a lot of valuable experience. I trust her like I would someone in my own family. If my vet wasn't there -- I would go to her with any problem I had -- I don't think there is any situation that she couldn't handle. Trust is not something I easily give away. All of this digression only to say -- Marissa - I'm glad you are here and that you are one of us. I hope things go well with your new vet and I hope you'll keep us posted. elizabeth On 3/21/07, Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! First of all, I need to say again how absolutely AMAZING this list is Thank you so much for being here and for all your support and advice. And special thanks to Barb for IMing me (if anyone else feels like chatting, I'm on yahoo at disablednproud77 and on aim at disablednproud)!!! :) I made a ton of calls this morning and have made a bit of progress in finding a new vet. Thanks so much to all of you who recommended people and sent links! I'm still waiting for some vets to call me back, but I found one very near my house (can even get there on the metro which is good since I don't have a car) who said she'd look at the articles I have (I faxed them to her) and that she'd be willing to try things as long as I am aware it may not work (well duh!!). Her prices are also REALLY reasonable, so that helps a lot! I also spoke with the vet I had taken him to at Banfield. He said that he didn't think there was anything that would help, but if I faxed him my research info, he'd take a look and if it looked good he'd make sure I got whatever scrips I needed for things I wanted to try. That's good news because I'm still on their wellness plan, so if we do IR or something, I can go there for the treatments and not have to pay for the office visit! :) Dad said to call him from the vet and he'll give them his credit card number...I'll start paying him back when I get paid next week. Whew! God is good. Still no idea what will work, but I'm glad to be making progress!!! Thanks for all the suggestions and help everyone!!! Hugs! Marissa -- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49982/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49982/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html
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Re: Looking for a good canned food
I ditto this; mine LOVE the stuff! :) Wendy --- Linda Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a dry food addict who became ill a couple of months ago with a severe liver infection and lost a lot of weight. I tried to get Boo to eat everything, but he had absolutely no interest in any food (except meat baby food) until I tried the new Fancy Feast elegant medleys. He just gobbles the entire 3 oz. down immediately. It's really expensive - about twice as much as the regular Fancy Feast cans, but worth it if you need your kitty to eat. Linda Anyone know a really good canned food that cats can't seem to resist? Our cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any suggestions? Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367
Re: Mama Kitty - back from the vet's just now
Thank goodness that Mama Kitty's fever is gone! So happy that Mama Kitty is doing better!!! I know you are too! :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mama Kitty and I just got home from the vet's office. The Acemannan came in (less than 24 hours - that was very good). I knew Mama was feeling a bit better this afternoon because she did put up some protest about going to the vet's today. They took her temperature and her fever is gone! She got more fluids today. She was more vocal today -- that is much more like her. Instead of taking us to one of the patient rooms - they took us straight back to where they do procedures and surgery. I've been going there a long time so I guess they know I'm not going to get in the way. Dr. Reid is a wonder about giving those shots that go through the skin and directly into the stomach. The vet tech holds her standing up and he does the shot. My doctor said that actually a shot like this is less painful than one that goes under the skin -- he explained about why and the nerves in the skin, etc. We're scheduled every Wednesday for the next month or so to come in for one of these shots. Maybe it is my imagination - but I could swear that by the time we got home - Mama was feeling even better. The first thing she did was have a few bites of salmon. Dr. Reid is concerned about her drinking enough water so I will be keeping an eye on that. He recommends making ice cubes from chicken stock (not the low sodium kind)you put the ice cube in a bowl or plate for them. They can play with it - but also they won't drink it too fast. My understanding is that the sodium in the broth makes them more thirsty and so they will drink more water. (I don't think you should use stock that is made with onions because anything from the allium family is taboo for kitties). So - thanks for everyone who sent well wishes and thought of us. I am cautiously optimistic. Mama Kitty is on the porch sunbathing (since mean ol' mommy made her stay inside today while she was away). We'll keep you posted. Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
good follow-up info on pet-food recall
this seems to have a number of links for ongoing, up-to-date info crosspost responsibly. http://howl911.com/ -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
Hi Kelley, I'm so sorry about Joey's prognosis. Anemia is so scary. I did a little research and humans with AIHA use Epogen. Did your vet say whether Epogen would help Joey? :) Wendy --- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month, has been diagnosed with Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia. I'm really concerned about him. I feel bad because I think I should have noticed something sooner. What information can yall give me about this disease? It is my understanding this disease is more common in FELV+ cats. Thanks, -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
Another Update: Today's Vet Visit
Hi all! Thanks so much for being such a fabulous support network! I have many families in my life...and I feel like now I have a new one: my feleuk family! lol Took Slink to a new vet tonight - the one near my house. I was very pleased with her! She asked if his regular diet is raw (which it was before he got sick). I told her he's eating Innova Evo and she said her cats love it (I was impressed to find a vet who knew wat Innova was! Then I remembered I got her name from the owner of the store where I buy it. lol). They did a CBC and his HCT is down to 9, but his WBC was up slightly. His temp was 105.6! She was very real with me. She said what I had basically been thinking: that if we didn't do something, he would definitely die and fairly quickly. So she said we had nothing to lose by trying things and she was willing to try whatever I wanted to. I had faxed her 8 pages of info about IR and she'd read all of it, PLUS did her own reading! She said she'd heard of some clinical trials but they'd been stopped because it wasn't working...but that she'd read further and saw that the reason they stopped them is because they were defining success as seroconversion (testing negative for FeLV) and that's just not going to happen. But when you look at symptoms and quality of life, it seems like it works pretty well. She wasn't as positive about the Epogen, wasn't sure that it would work. But again was willing to try it. She also wanted to start him on Prednisone since it can stimulate RBC production and would help with some other things. So, she gave him a shot of Pred and Epogen (we were going to wait on the Epogen so as not to start everything at once, but decided to just go with it). She also gave me a bottle of Doxy and sent me home with that and Pred tablets. I'm going to order the IR (that way it will get here more quickly) and then we'll start that as well. Their prices are extremely reasonable as well! They'll only charge me $20 per visit to do the IR doses (and since it's only $50 or so for the meds, that's very affordable!). It'll be $26 for the Epogen shots which is just paying for the medicine itself. The exam tonight was only $48 (though with everything we did, the total bill was almost $200). But dad is being wonderful and helping me out yet again! :) Also, I can get there in about 15 minutes on the metro, so it'll be nice and easy to go to his appointments! :) After the appointment my friend and I dropped Slink at home (he went straight for water! :)), and went out to dinner. When we came home a couple hours later, his temp is now 102.8!!! I did the happy dance...and he looked at me like I was nuts! lol He's still pretty quiet, but seems much more alert and comfortable. I gave him his clavamox, doxy, water, and vitamins...and I think it was a bit too much cuz he coughed up some phlegm and kinda gagged on it. So we'll be spreading that out from now on. The Clavamox is almost gone, though. He's not crazy about having to take all that stuff but he tolerates it pretty well. At dinner my friend and I were talking about him and she said when she worked at the vet she could tell when people brought their animals in whether they should put them down or not...and she says Slinky has way too much life left in him to put him down now. That was great to hear!!! Anyway, that's the latest. Obviously no way to know if all this will work, but we figure it can't hurt to try. I'm just thrilled to be doing SOMETHING. Keep your fingers crossed and send us prayers for his recovery! Thanks again for all your help and support Marissa - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
Re: Mama Kitty - back from the vet's just now
I sure am! Thanks, Wendy. Mama is inside now in her favorite chair. I let her sit on the porch until past dark -- she just loves all the sights, sounds, and scents. She was an outdoor kitty for so long...I'm assuming before she lived here and for the longest after she took up residence here. The first time she started living inside -- she'd had a terrible bite from a feral...I'm thinking this may be how she got FeVL+ in the first place. She had to have two surgeries...her incision had a drain out of either end of the incision with the first operation...then she had to have the second surgery because some of the tissue had necrotized (did I just make up that word?). We (vet's office and I) had a devil of a time even identifying the points of the bite in the first place until it got very infected. A big ordeal for her and for me. She learned to live inside at that time because she just felt so bad - and she knew I was taking care of her...it wasn't for several months that she had her first crash and we learned that she had FeVL+. She's being a good sport about spending her days indoors. When she is healthy, I don't mind having her sun on the porch all day. She won't leave the porch except to visit the mulch around the roses (strictly on kitty cat business)...but in her state now - I would never forgive myself if one of the neighborhood dogs tried to harass her . She simply would not be able to defend herself in such a weakened state. Yesterday and today she really hasn't had much strength to sit upright...though I did see her sit up a couple of times this afternoon which is a big improvement from yesterday. She's taking it all in stride. I may be wacko (yeah -- I know) - but somehow it seems that she understands why things are this way. She's very alert tonight and very vocal - which is encouraging. I am so glad that the inside 'pride' is not giving her a hard time (read as 'shakiti' is minding his manners!'.) LOL This could change at any moment thoughboys will be boys, I suppose. Hangin' in... elizabeth and mama kitty On 3/21/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank goodness that Mama Kitty's fever is gone! So happy that Mama Kitty is doing better!!! I know you are too! :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mama Kitty and I just got home from the vet's office. The Acemannan came in (less than 24 hours - that was very good). I knew Mama was feeling a bit better this afternoon because she did put up some protest about going to the vet's today. They took her temperature and her fever is gone! She got more fluids today. She was more vocal today -- that is much more like her. Instead of taking us to one of the patient rooms - they took us straight back to where they do procedures and surgery. I've been going there a long time so I guess they know I'm not going to get in the way. Dr. Reid is a wonder about giving those shots that go through the skin and directly into the stomach. The vet tech holds her standing up and he does the shot. My doctor said that actually a shot like this is less painful than one that goes under the skin -- he explained about why and the nerves in the skin, etc. We're scheduled every Wednesday for the next month or so to come in for one of these shots. Maybe it is my imagination - but I could swear that by the time we got home - Mama was feeling even better. The first thing she did was have a few bites of salmon. Dr. Reid is concerned about her drinking enough water so I will be keeping an eye on that. He recommends making ice cubes from chicken stock (not the low sodium kind)you put the ice cube in a bowl or plate for them. They can play with it - but also they won't drink it too fast. My understanding is that the sodium in the broth makes them more thirsty and so they will drink more water. (I don't think you should use stock that is made with onions because anything from the allium family is taboo for kitties). So - thanks for everyone who sent well wishes and thought of us. I am cautiously optimistic. Mama Kitty is on the porch sunbathing (since mean ol' mommy made her stay inside today while she was away). We'll keep you posted. Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
Re: Mama Kitty - back from the vet's just now
No, I don't think you made that word up. lol. Necropsy means dead tissue. Or the dying of tissue. Something like that. The only reason I know this is because I had a breast cancer scare this past summer, and the spot on the mammogram turned out to be necropsied tissue, probably from an old sports injury. I was relieved that's all it was. My husband is the pet whisperer, I've decided. He finds lost animals. It's the most uncanny thing. Tonight our neighbor's dogs got out, and they couldn't find them. So after we ate dinner, my husband says out of the blue that he'd like to try to go find the dogs, and I'll be damned if we didn't find them in our car within five minutes. The back of my car is very muddy, but I don't care. I'm so happy they are home. :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sure am! Thanks, Wendy. Mama is inside now in her favorite chair. I let her sit on the porch until past dark -- she just loves all the sights, sounds, and scents. She was an outdoor kitty for so long...I'm assuming before she lived here and for the longest after she took up residence here. The first time she started living inside -- she'd had a terrible bite from a feral...I'm thinking this may be how she got FeVL+ in the first place. She had to have two surgeries...her incision had a drain out of either end of the incision with the first operation...then she had to have the second surgery because some of the tissue had necrotized (did I just make up that word?). We (vet's office and I) had a devil of a time even identifying the points of the bite in the first place until it got very infected. A big ordeal for her and for me. She learned to live inside at that time because she just felt so bad - and she knew I was taking care of her...it wasn't for several months that she had her first crash and we learned that she had FeVL+. She's being a good sport about spending her days indoors. When she is healthy, I don't mind having her sun on the porch all day. She won't leave the porch except to visit the mulch around the roses (strictly on kitty cat business)...but in her state now - I would never forgive myself if one of the neighborhood dogs tried to harass her . She simply would not be able to defend herself in such a weakened state. Yesterday and today she really hasn't had much strength to sit upright...though I did see her sit up a couple of times this afternoon which is a big improvement from yesterday. She's taking it all in stride. I may be wacko (yeah -- I know) - but somehow it seems that she understands why things are this way. She's very alert tonight and very vocal - which is encouraging. I am so glad that the inside 'pride' is not giving her a hard time (read as 'shakiti' is minding his manners!'.) LOL This could change at any moment thoughboys will be boys, I suppose. Hangin' in... elizabeth and mama kitty On 3/21/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank goodness that Mama Kitty's fever is gone! So happy that Mama Kitty is doing better!!! I know you are too! :) Wendy --- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mama Kitty and I just got home from the vet's office. The Acemannan came in (less than 24 hours - that was very good). I knew Mama was feeling a bit better this afternoon because she did put up some protest about going to the vet's today. They took her temperature and her fever is gone! She got more fluids today. She was more vocal today -- that is much more like her. Instead of taking us to one of the patient rooms - they took us straight back to where they do procedures and surgery. I've been going there a long time so I guess they know I'm not going to get in the way. Dr. Reid is a wonder about giving those shots that go through the skin and directly into the stomach. The vet tech holds her standing up and he does the shot. My doctor said that actually a shot like this is less painful than one that goes under the skin -- he explained about why and the nerves in the skin, etc. We're scheduled every Wednesday for the next month or so to come in for one of these shots. Maybe it is my imagination - but I could swear that by the time we got home - Mama was feeling even better. The first thing she did was have a few bites of salmon. Dr. Reid is concerned about her drinking enough water so I will be keeping an eye on that. He recommends making ice cubes from chicken stock (not the low sodium kind)you put the ice cube in a bowl or plate for them. They can play with it - but also they won't drink it too fast. My understanding is that the sodium in the broth makes them more thirsty and so they will drink more water. (I don't think you should use stock that is made with onions because
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
In a message dated 3/21/07 10:41:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did your vet say whether Epogen would help Joey? My Bear (RIP) was on epogen (among WAY other Rx's). At first it did boost his PCV but AHIA is a NASTY disease, and that's putting it mildly.. Despite all his meds, nothing helped... :( Patti her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
