Re: Camilla and Spencer
Poor babies! I will keep them in my prayers. Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are in great need of prayers and good thoughts for these two wonderful babies. Camilla has gone down hill fast and is anemic,she is also one of Dr. Jens all time fav kitties. Spencer has the same thing that Diesel just lost his battle to.But his isn't as bad it is only swollen on one side of his throat.She is trying all that she can for these babies.THanks so much. Sherry - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: sigh. don't forget to keep checking for recall news.
Have you tried mixing some ground turkey or turkey thigh meat with the chicken? Dixie seems to like the thighs better than the breast. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:45 AM Subject: Re: sigh. don't forget to keep checking for recall news. Wish my guys liked turkey but they really don't, they like chicken so that's what I get. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
OT:: more recalls
I work for a retailer which sells mass quantities of items made in China. Since I chose to shop in my own store, it's going to be doubly hard for me not to buy goods from China. I will do my utmost best! I can't wait for my local farmers market to open in May! :) Gina wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thus the effects of a global economy...things were so much simpler when we weren't buying over 75% of our goods from overseas. I think it's dangerous to our very existence to set up our national economy in this manner. Here's to buying U.S. made only!!! And I will not be buying anything Chinese if I can help it. So much controversy with that country. :) Wendy --- Nina wrote: The death and sickness of what we are dealing with is a the real nightmare. We've already been surprised about how few factories/companies/suppliers are truly involved in the making of our processed pet foods. It can be done. I don't know how long it would take to track this sort of data base, who knows, maybe someone is in the process as I type this. It's already too late for thousands of dogs and cats, I'm very sorry to say that it appears thousands more will experience the same fate before we get to the bottom of it, if we ever do. Nina wendy wrote: It's not just as simple as comparing ingredients when you're talking about this many companies. They have to compare all of the following: each ingredient, from which company each came from, and then for each individual ingredient, they need a list of ingredients that made that ingredient, and which companies provided each of those, and so on...until they get down to the raw ingredients for everything that made that product what it is. Then they also have to look at batches/dates for all of those, and all the manufacturing facilities involved. It's a logistical nightmare... :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RE: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of youconsideringpurchasing one
I got mine at Drs Foster and Smith too. It works really well! Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Marylyn, I have this rubber spongy thing that my friend gave me. Theyre cheap, and I love it! Its grayish black and kind of shaped like a rectangle, but with a curved inner part for you to grip. I think she got it from Drs. Foster and Smith, but Im not really sure. But, this thing takes the fur and rolls it up when you drag is across the upholstery. This is the only way I can vacuum my furnitureI have to do this first which gets up the majority of the hair, but the stuff thats left is actually vacuum-able. I also bought some vacuum spray stuff thats supposed to allow the hair to not stick to furniture, but it was a mess and didnt really work, and it would get in places I didnt want. By far, I stand my rubber thing! Ill look later for a link to one, I couldnt find one on the Drs. Website, but I know its out there somewhere. But, I did read while looking that many people use a rubber glove. Ive never tried it. If you do, let us know! Melissa - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:47 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of youconsideringpurchasing one I saw something about rubber gloves (like for washing dishes) getting up fur on upholstery. Has anyone had any experience with this? If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: elizabeth trent To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:34 PM Subject: Re: OT: Roombie-the new Roomba - for those of you consideringpurchasing one I'm curious -- how much does it hold? I love my purple dyson for animal hair but so help me - we're such a shedding bunch I have to empty it frequently. how does it perform? elizabeth On 4/15/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, Just wanted to let you guys know that Roombie (our new Roomba Sage for pet owners) went on it's maiden voyage this morning. The kitties were somewhat alarmed at first, but by the time it cleaned for 45 minutes and docked itself, they weren't too concerned with it. Smookie ran over to it when it stopped and has been trying to get the brushes out from underneath it. It's too cute. So far, Roombie did a bang-up job of vacuuming my tile floors-the living room, kitchen, and eating area along with the front entry way and hallway leading from that. That's as far as it could go since all the doors were shut along the hallway. I was very surprised with how well it patterned itself while cleaning. It got in and out of tight spaces. It even tried to eat Smookie's feather toy, but I rescued it. We paid $219 for it at the irobot website, which is the company that makes Roomba. A better deal than at Linens and Things or Bed, Bath, and Beyond. They have a pretty decent special, which includes free shipping, and a free home dock (normally $60); fairly cheap for a Roomba. Normally, I am a very frugal person, but I have bought three vacuum-cleaners in the past few years at about $50 each at Walmart, and all have died. Plus, I don't actually have to do the vacuuming myself, so that itself was worth the extra money. With the tile, as opposed to the carpet we had that hid a lot of dirt, every speck of dirt shows up, and I'm having to sweep every day as it is. So all in all, I'm happy as of day one. We'll see after a month or so if Roombie was worth it. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world: Indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit my Tigger Tales site! - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: sigh. don't forget to keep checking for recall news.
No actually I usually do one or the other, will have to give that a try. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Stamp went to the bridge
Beth, I am so sorry for your loss of Stamp. I had to pts Ally last summer due to FIP, it is a rotten disease. Peace to you and yours, Beth N. On 4/17/07, Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic. Beth -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48245/*http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-
Re: update on Cassidy
Are you part of any rescue lists? There are rescue transport lists with networks all over. There is even an air transport for animals. I'll see if I can find some info for you. If not, I'd be more than willing to send you a little money to help with gas. Beth Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Cassidy has to go to Best Friends soon after May 1st. They cant wait until July 1st for me to get a second IFA, but they said theyd keep him apart from the other FeLV cats if there was any doubt as to his status. But, I wonder what they consider doubt. Id hate to expose him and he turns up negative in the future. And then theres the problem of funding the trip. I dont know how to come up with just the gas money before May 1st! Do you guys know of any place to turn to for help in a hurry? I figure it will cost me at least $240 for gas round trip. Plus, according to Map Quest, the drive is a little over 18 hours! Thatll mean lodging along the way and at the destination. Then lodging on the way home unless I can get someone to take turns driving/sleeping. I know! Maybe Ill just hitch a ride with a trucker! Theyre used to long days like that! (Just kidding of course). Then theres the fact that I still dont have his first IFA test results (just the Elisa). Im so frustrated by my vets office! I like my vet quite a bit, but some of the helpers are a bunch of, pardon me, morons! Im sure I couldnt do theyre jobs, but I know I could keep things straight. They told me today that the lab work for Cassidys IFA got lost in the mail, at the lab, somewhere. My guess is they forgot to send it, and now they need another sample. Who knows, but now were really pushing the deadline for his trip to Utah. They want him to come in on Monday since they wont send to the lab until next week anyway. I think that if they wont put a rush on it (like tomorrow), then Ill just have to find a vet who will. Furthermore, I called this morning about my two rescues in the garage. One has the squirts, but I cant figure out which one. I can never catch them in the act! I wanted to know what I should do, and I also called to get Bandits Prozac refilled. Okay, the receptionist takes down the info, and says theyll call back. So, I finally get a call back late in the afternoon (I had called early in the morning). The message they left was something about Bandit needing blood drawn again (but Cassidys the one who actually needs it), and the rest of the message said that the food I wanted would be there in the morning. What?!?! I didnt ask for food; Cassidy needs the blood work; what about the diarrhea?; what about the Prozac? G! Sorry Im ranting, but seriously! So, I called back and politely explained the real situation. Sometimes one of the workers there (or several) just seem like complete space-cadets! I know we all have off days, but they seem to more than most. If I didnt like my vet so much well, I suppose there are other likeable vets around I just hate to travel too far since the car ride is usually traumatizing enough. Thanks for listening to me complain. I needed to vent. I know many of you are going through much worse situations and are dealing with a lot of sadness, so Im sorry if my complaints seem trivial! Im still not sure what Ill do with Cassidy. Im just hoping his IFA comes back negative, but I know thats not going to happen. But, hes so healthy now, I just hope he has a wonderfully, long life. Melissa - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
RE: Stamp went tp the bridge
Thank you everyone. I think I have had enough of FeLV for awhile. There is a new FeLV long haired orange and white kitten at the shelter and I know they want to me to take it, but I don't want to expose him to FIP. I think I could have handled the FeLV in Stamp, but the FIP on top of it, no. It's funny how such a small bundle of black fur can have such personality and such make such an imprint on your heart. I'll check back in once in awhile, but I think I need a break for now. Take care, Beth - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Youngest age a combo test is accurate
Hi guys, What is the youngest age a combo test is accurate, or at least close to accurate? I have a lot of kittens to test and I don't want to get them tested too soon. Thanks, Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
RE: update on Cassidy
Hi Beth, No I'm not part of any rescue list. At the beginning of this month three rescues found me, and I couldn't turn them away. I wasn't out looking for cats, it just happened. It was a wonderful thing since I was kind of feeling lost as to my purpose in life, and I've found my calling; however, starting my own rescue/shelter will take some time and planning. I'm working on getting a better job. I teach on-line courses for high school kids for college credit. The pay is horrendous-I figured out that's it's less that minimum wage per hour that I work! I like the teaching, somewhat, but for the amount of time I put into it. If you know of any rescue transport resources, please let me know! I'd hate to take money from people for gas, but if worse comes to worst, I could probably swallow my pride and do it. I'd have to pay you back, of course. Right now I'm working on paying off the vet bill. My husband makes a good amount of money, but he doesn't part with it easily for cat stuff. He thinks I should be on my own with this. We're not rich by any means-we live paycheck to paycheck pretty much-but I think even though he's kind hearted, if I turned on the waterworks for this, he'd still not be willing to give for the trip. I'll see what I can do between now and May 1st. I'll keep looking for transport funding on websites, etc. Thanks for your help-I know you probably have a lot of other things on your mind right now with the loss of poor Stamp. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gussies mom Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Are you part of any rescue lists? There are rescue transport lists with networks all over. There is even an air transport for animals. I'll see if I can find some info for you. If not, I'd be more than willing to send you a little money to help with gas. Beth Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Cassidy has to go to Best Friends soon after May 1st. They can't wait until July 1st for me to get a second IFA, but they said they'd keep him apart from the other FeLV cats if there was any doubt as to his status. But, I wonder what they consider doubt. I'd hate to expose him and he turns up negative in the future. And then there's the problem of funding the trip. I don't know how to come up with just the gas money before May 1st! Do you guys know of any place to turn to for help in a hurry? I figure it will cost me at least $240 for gas round trip. Plus, according to Map Quest, the drive is a little over 18 hours! That'll mean lodging along the way and at the destination. Then lodging on the way home unless I can get someone to take turns driving/sleeping. I know! Maybe I'll just hitch a ride with a trucker! They're used to long days like that! (Just kidding of course). Then there's the fact that I still don't have his first IFA test results (just the Elisa). I'm so frustrated by my vet's office! I like my vet quite a bit, but some of the helpers are a bunch of, pardon me, morons! I'm sure I couldn't do they're jobs, but I know I could keep things straight. They told me today that the lab work for Cassidy's IFA got lost in the mail, at the lab, somewhere. My guess is they forgot to send it, and now they need another sample. Who knows, but now we're really pushing the deadline for his trip to Utah. They want him to come in on Monday since they won't send to the lab until next week anyway. I think that if they won't put a rush on it (like tomorrow), then I'll just have to find a vet who will. Furthermore, I called this morning about my two rescues in the garage. One has the squirts, but I can't figure out which one. I can never catch them in the act! I wanted to know what I should do, and I also called to get Bandit's Prozac refilled. Okay, the receptionist takes down the info, and says they'll call back. So, I finally get a call back late in the afternoon (I had called early in the morning). The message they left was something about Bandit needing blood drawn again (but Cassidy's the one who actually needs it), and the rest of the message said that the food I wanted would be there in the morning. What?!?! I didn't ask for food; Cassidy needs the blood work; what about the diarrhea?; what about the Prozac? G! Sorry I'm ranting, but seriously! So, I called back and politely explained the real situation. Sometimes one of the workers there (or several) just seem like complete space-cadets! I know we all have off days, but they seem to more than most. If I didn't like my vet so much.well, I suppose there are other likeable vets around.I just hate to travel too far since the car ride is usually traumatizing enough. Thanks for listening to me complain. I needed to vent. I know many of you are going through much worse situations and are dealing with a lot of sadness, so I'm sorry if my complaints seem trivial! I'm still
Re: update on Cassidy
Hi Melissa, I recently started a rescue. It is exhausting, expensive, and super rewarding. I studied about it for 6 months before I did it and still make more than my share of mistakes. If you want help, resources, advice, etc I will be happy to share. Kelley On 4/18/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Beth, No I'm not part of any rescue list. At the beginning of this month three rescues found me, and I couldn't turn them away. I wasn't out looking for cats, it just happened. It was a wonderful thing since I was kind of feeling lost as to my purpose in life, and I've found my calling; however, starting my own rescue/shelter will take some time and planning. I'm working on getting a better job. I teach on-line courses for high school kids for college credit. The pay is horrendous—I figured out that's it's less that minimum wage per hour that I work! I like the teaching, somewhat, but for the amount of time I put into it… If you know of any rescue transport resources, please let me know! I'd hate to take money from people for gas, but if worse comes to worst, I could probably swallow my pride and do it. I'd have to pay you back, of course. Right now I'm working on paying off the vet bill. My husband makes a good amount of money, but he doesn't part with it easily for cat stuff. He thinks I should be on my own with this. We're not rich by any means—we live paycheck to paycheck pretty much—but I think even though he's kind hearted, if I turned on the waterworks for this, he'd still not be willing to give for the trip. I'll see what I can do between now and May 1st. I'll keep looking for transport funding on websites, etc. Thanks for your help—I know you probably have a lot of other things on your mind right now with the loss of poor Stamp. Melissa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gussies mom Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Are you part of any rescue lists? There are rescue transport lists with networks all over. There is even an air transport for animals. I'll see if I can find some info for you. If not, I'd be more than willing to send you a little money to help with gas. Beth Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Cassidy has to go to Best Friends soon after May 1st. They can't wait until July 1st for me to get a second IFA, but they said they'd keep him apart from the other FeLV cats if there was any doubt as to his status. But, I wonder what they consider doubt. I'd hate to expose him and he turns up negative in the future. And then there's the problem of funding the trip. I don't know how to come up with just the gas money before May 1st! Do you guys know of any place to turn to for help in a hurry? I figure it will cost me at least $240 for gas round trip. Plus, according to Map Quest, the drive is a little over 18 hours! That'll mean lodging along the way and at the destination. Then lodging on the way home unless I can get someone to take turns driving/sleeping. I know! Maybe I'll just hitch a ride with a trucker! They're used to long days like that! (Just kidding of course). Then there's the fact that I still don't have his first IFA test results (just the Elisa). I'm so frustrated by my vet's office! I like my vet quite a bit, but some of the helpers are a bunch of, pardon me, morons! I'm sure I couldn't do they're jobs, but I know I could keep things straight. They told me today that the lab work for Cassidy's IFA got lost in the mail, at the lab, somewhere. My guess is they forgot to send it, and now they need another sample. Who knows, but now we're really pushing the deadline for his trip to Utah. They want him to come in on Monday since they won't send to the lab until next week anyway. I think that if they won't put a rush on it (like tomorrow), then I'll just have to find a vet who will. Furthermore, I called this morning about my two rescues in the garage. One has the squirts, but I can't figure out which one. I can never catch them in the act! I wanted to know what I should do, and I also called to get Bandit's Prozac refilled. Okay, the receptionist takes down the info, and says they'll call back. So, I finally get a call back late in the afternoon (I had called early in the morning). The message they left was something about Bandit needing blood drawn again (but Cassidy's the one who actually needs it), and the rest of the message said that the food I wanted would be there in the morning. What?!?! I didn't ask for food; Cassidy needs the blood work; what about the diarrhea?; what about the Prozac? G! Sorry I'm ranting, but seriously! So, I called back and politely explained the real situation. Sometimes one of the workers there (or several) just seem like complete space-cadets! I know we all have off days, but they seem to more than most. If I didn't like my vet so much…well,
RE: update on Cassidy
Thanks Kelly! I'm hoping to get a steady income first--I'm trying to get into the freelance copywriting and/or copyediting market. This way I can work from home like I already do. Plus I live in the middle of no where, so job opportunities for my degree are slim to none. AND I can't get a job as a secretary/receptionist and the like because now I have too much school. That's how it goes I guess! $60,000 in student loans and I make like $400 a month! I have so much to learn about starting a rescue, but I don't know if I'll be able to start one until we move out of town. Our house is so small that I just can't figure out how to arrange for a shelter and still allow my husband to use his garage! He's upset already that I've got two cats in there and one in my office! I will definitely keep you in mind as a good source for information since you've just started and the experience is fresh in your mind! Do you have FeLV cats only or just all kinds? I just love that everyone is so supportive on this site. Thanks, Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:42 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Hi Melissa, I recently started a rescue. It is exhausting, expensive, and super rewarding. I studied about it for 6 months before I did it and still make more than my share of mistakes. If you want help, resources, advice, etc I will be happy to share. Kelley On 4/18/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Beth, No I'm not part of any rescue list. At the beginning of this month three rescues found me, and I couldn't turn them away. I wasn't out looking for cats, it just happened. It was a wonderful thing since I was kind of feeling lost as to my purpose in life, and I've found my calling; however, starting my own rescue/shelter will take some time and planning. I'm working on getting a better job. I teach on-line courses for high school kids for college credit. The pay is horrendous-I figured out that's it's less that minimum wage per hour that I work! I like the teaching, somewhat, but for the amount of time I put into it. If you know of any rescue transport resources, please let me know! I'd hate to take money from people for gas, but if worse comes to worst, I could probably swallow my pride and do it. I'd have to pay you back, of course. Right now I'm working on paying off the vet bill. My husband makes a good amount of money, but he doesn't part with it easily for cat stuff. He thinks I should be on my own with this. We're not rich by any means-we live paycheck to paycheck pretty much-but I think even though he's kind hearted, if I turned on the waterworks for this, he'd still not be willing to give for the trip. I'll see what I can do between now and May 1st. I'll keep looking for transport funding on websites, etc. Thanks for your help-I know you probably have a lot of other things on your mind right now with the loss of poor Stamp. Melissa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gussies mom Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Are you part of any rescue lists? There are rescue transport lists with networks all over. There is even an air transport for animals. I'll see if I can find some info for you. If not, I'd be more than willing to send you a little money to help with gas. Beth Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Cassidy has to go to Best Friends soon after May 1st. They can't wait until July 1st for me to get a second IFA, but they said they'd keep him apart from the other FeLV cats if there was any doubt as to his status. But, I wonder what they consider doubt. I'd hate to expose him and he turns up negative in the future. And then there's the problem of funding the trip. I don't know how to come up with just the gas money before May 1st! Do you guys know of any place to turn to for help in a hurry? I figure it will cost me at least $240 for gas round trip. Plus, according to Map Quest, the drive is a little over 18 hours! That'll mean lodging along the way and at the destination. Then lodging on the way home unless I can get someone to take turns driving/sleeping. I know! Maybe I'll just hitch a ride with a trucker! They're used to long days like that! (Just kidding of course). Then there's the fact that I still don't have his first IFA test results (just the Elisa). I'm so frustrated by my vet's office! I like my vet quite a bit, but some of the helpers are a bunch of, pardon me, morons! I'm sure I couldn't do they're jobs, but I know I could keep things straight. They told me today that the lab work for Cassidy's IFA got lost in the mail, at the lab, somewhere. My guess is they forgot to send it, and now they need another
Re: update on Cassidy
Yes, income is essential as rescue is very expensive. I actually have no FELV cats at this time, and probably will not unless I just get some in, at which point I'd probably transfer them to Best Friends, if I were lucky enough to be able to get space - it is VERY HARD to get a cat into BF. I have too many immune suppressed cats (my heart disease cat, and Joey who is on massive doses of steroids for his anemia, and etc.) for me to feel comfortable with mixing, and I have nowhere to permanently isolate cats. My ISO rooms are generally taken up with incoming cats, or moms w/kittens. I have no husband nor boyfriend, so I have cats in *every* room in my house. I have stopped intake for the moment as I just cannot physically take in any more, not to mention I have a lot who are on daily meds (Missy, Joey, Shimmer, Toodles, the kittens w/diarrhea). You could actually do a foster based network and not have any cats in your house at all. Or if you had enough money you could rent a building. I wanted to do an all breed cat rescue, so I do all kinds. There are rescues for most sorts of purebred cats here already, but I sure understand why people do breed-only rescue as otherwise there are such overwhelming numbers. Anyway, feel free to ask questions, though it might be better to do so off list as we are getting OT for FELV:) KElley On 4/18/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Kelly! I'm hoping to get a steady income first--I'm trying to get into the freelance copywriting and/or copyediting market. This way I can work from home like I already do. Plus I live in the middle of no where, so job opportunities for my degree are slim to none. AND I can't get a job as a secretary/receptionist and the like because now I have too much school. That's how it goes I guess! $60,000 in student loans and I make like $400 a month! I have so much to learn about starting a rescue, but I don't know if I'll be able to start one until we move out of town. Our house is so small that I just can't figure out how to arrange for a shelter and still allow my husband to use his garage! He's upset already that I've got two cats in there and one in my office! I will definitely keep you in mind as a good source for information since you've just started and the experience is fresh in your mind! Do you have FeLV cats only or just all kinds? I just love that everyone is so supportive on this site. Thanks, Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:42 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Hi Melissa, I recently started a rescue. It is exhausting, expensive, and super rewarding. I studied about it for 6 months before I did it and still make more than my share of mistakes. If you want help, resources, advice, etc I will be happy to share. Kelley On 4/18/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Beth, No I'm not part of any rescue list. At the beginning of this month three rescues found me, and I couldn't turn them away. I wasn't out looking for cats, it just happened. It was a wonderful thing since I was kind of feeling lost as to my purpose in life, and I've found my calling; however, starting my own rescue/shelter will take some time and planning. I'm working on getting a better job. I teach on-line courses for high school kids for college credit. The pay is horrendous-I figured out that's it's less that minimum wage per hour that I work! I like the teaching, somewhat, but for the amount of time I put into it. If you know of any rescue transport resources, please let me know! I'd hate to take money from people for gas, but if worse comes to worst, I could probably swallow my pride and do it. I'd have to pay you back, of course. Right now I'm working on paying off the vet bill. My husband makes a good amount of money, but he doesn't part with it easily for cat stuff. He thinks I should be on my own with this. We're not rich by any means-we live paycheck to paycheck pretty much-but I think even though he's kind hearted, if I turned on the waterworks for this, he'd still not be willing to give for the trip. I'll see what I can do between now and May 1st. I'll keep looking for transport funding on websites, etc. Thanks for your help-I know you probably have a lot of other things on your mind right now with the loss of poor Stamp. Melissa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gussies mom Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Are you part of any rescue lists? There are rescue transport lists with networks all over. There is even an air transport for animals. I'll see if I can find some info for you. If not, I'd be more than willing to send you a little money to help with gas. Beth Melissa Lind
foot problem, FeLV?
Hi, I'm writing about Cassidy again. I was looking into posting for adoption on other special needs websites, and I found one cat whose description fit Cassidy's, sort of. The other cat had the same problem of walking on the knuckles of one foot and wearing away the fur there. My vet said that with Cassidy, it was nerve damage to the spine somewhere around the pelvic area, but that he couldn't rule out the fact that it could be FeLV related. Since Cassidy has been living in my office, on carpet, he has not walked on the knuckles of that paw. He only does that when he gets to running around, and this room is so small, not much room to run. His foot is now looking very nice-not swollen or red, just pink from the missing fur. I guess what I want to know is this: do you think this is a symptom of FeLV? I'm still waiting on his IFA test (another blood sample must be taken, if you've read my other post), and I was hoping beyond hope that his IFA would be negative. I thought that since he had no symptoms whatsoever he might have a chance that the Elisa was wrong. He's very healthy. Good stools. Good appetite. Doesn't sleep more than most. Just all-over a regular cat. But, maybe this foot thing indicates his FeLV. I hope not. Even if his IFA comes back positive, I was hoping that since he has no symptoms now, that he'd have more time to live happily. Melissa
kitties in need of a good home
Hello, please help me spread the word. I have 5 cats available for adoption. They just recently showed up in my yard, they were most likely dumped. I can not take in any more cats at this time because I have 1 and she is leukemia positive, she is enough. I need to find homes for these cats ASAP! Since my cat was found they same way, some or all of these may be leukemia positive. I will list info each cat. If anyone is interested in giving them a home of fostering please let me know. If someone is serious about adopting them it is an $80.00 fee that covers spay/neutuer, feline aids and leukemia test, leukemia vaccination, rabies vaccination, and 1st boosters (distemper, etc). Please email me privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you can help. 1, very loving, loves to be pet, adult male, short hair ornage tabby, very big (not fat at all but big boned, his head is bigger than any main coon or bobcat mix I have ever seen) 2, sweet, ornage tabby short hair, adult female 3. short hair black, very wild and skittish, good barn cat or someone who has time to work with 4. long hair black, very wild and skittish, good barn cat or needs special work 5. young (older kitten), short hair grey and brown tabby, sweet
Re: update on Cassidy
http://purebredcatbreedrescue.org/transport.htm great info and resources on what is involved in setting up a transport; if you scroll down on the page, you'll find a link to some lists that work with cats. however, as a cat transporter, i'll tell you that most will not accept a cat with FeLV please contact me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the name of the city you're in, and the nearest couple of airports, and i'll see if i can find out if we can arrange anything with our special-needs transporter. MC On 4/18/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Beth, No I'm not part of any rescue list. At the beginning of this month three rescues found me, and I couldn't turn them away. I wasn't out looking for cats, it just happened. It was a wonderful thing since I was kind of feeling lost as to my purpose in life, and I've found my calling; however, starting my own rescue/shelter will take some time and planning. I'm working on getting a better job. I teach on-line courses for high school kids for college credit. The pay is horrendous—I figured out that's it's less that minimum wage per hour that I work! I like the teaching, somewhat, but for the amount of time I put into it… If you know of any rescue transport resources, please let me know! I'd hate to take money from people for gas, but if worse comes to worst, I could probably swallow my pride and do it. I'd have to pay you back, of course. Right now I'm working on paying off the vet bill. My husband makes a good amount of money, but he doesn't part with it easily for cat stuff. He thinks I should be on my own with this. We're not rich by any means—we live paycheck to paycheck pretty much—but I think even though he's kind hearted, if I turned on the waterworks for this, he'd still not be willing to give for the trip. I'll see what I can do between now and May 1st. I'll keep looking for transport funding on websites, etc. Thanks for your help—I know you probably have a lot of other things on your mind right now with the loss of poor Stamp. Melissa -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Gussies mom *Sent:* Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:06 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: update on Cassidy Are you part of any rescue lists? There are rescue transport lists with networks all over. There is even an air transport for animals. I'll see if I can find some info for you. If not, I'd be more than willing to send you a little money to help with gas. Beth *Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Well Cassidy has to go to Best Friends soon after May 1st. They can't wait until July 1st for me to get a second IFA, but they said they'd keep him apart from the other FeLV cats if there was any doubt as to his status. But, I wonder what they consider doubt. I'd hate to expose him and he turns up negative in the future. And then there's the problem of funding the trip. I don't know how to come up with just the gas money before May 1st! Do you guys know of any place to turn to for help in a hurry? I figure it will cost me at least $240 for gas round trip. Plus, according to Map Quest, the drive is a little over 18 hours! That'll mean lodging along the way and at the destination. Then lodging on the way home unless I can get someone to take turns driving/sleeping. I know! Maybe I'll just hitch a ride with a trucker! They're used to long days like that! (Just kidding of course). Then there's the fact that I still don't have his first IFA test results (just the Elisa). I'm so frustrated by my vet's office! I like my vet quite a bit, but some of the helpers are a bunch of, pardon me, morons! I'm sure I couldn't do they're jobs, but I know I could keep things straight. They told me today that the lab work for Cassidy's IFA got lost in the mail, at the lab, somewhere. My guess is they forgot to send it, and now they need another sample. Who knows, but now we're really pushing the deadline for his trip to Utah. They want him to come in on Monday since they won't send to the lab until next week anyway. I think that if they won't put a rush on it (like tomorrow), then I'll just have to find a vet who will. Furthermore, I called this morning about my two rescues in the garage. One has the squirts, but I can't figure out which one. I can never catch them in the act! I wanted to know what I should do, and I also called to get Bandit's Prozac refilled. Okay, the receptionist takes down the info, and says they'll call back. So, I finally get a call back late in the afternoon (I had called early in the morning). The message they left was something about Bandit needing blood drawn again (but Cassidy's the one who actually needs it), and the rest of the message said that the food I wanted would be there in the morning. What?!?! I didn't ask for food; Cassidy needs the blood work; what about the diarrhea?; what about the Prozac? G! Sorry I'm ranting, but
Re: Youngest age a combo test is accurate
i've never seen definite research on ages for FeLV accuracy--and i know that susan has the stats re: snap test accuracy to begin with. as for FIV, the way the test works, mom's antibodies will make kittens test positive until they wear off--for all intense porpoises (as someone once mis-typed), there is no such thing as a positive kitten.. some really high 90%ile of kittens who test positive before the age of 6 or 7 months will test negative later on. since it's not easy to know just WHEN mom's antibodies will wear off, i don't trust a positive FIV test in a young'un til at least nine months. i wish i knew the science better, but the test for FeLV does NOT work the same way, so if a kitten tests positive for FeLV, it's based on its own body chemistry, not mom's. On 4/18/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, What is the youngest age a combo test is accurate, or at least close to accurate? I have a lot of kittens to test and I don't want to get them tested too soon. Thanks, Kelley -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: sigh. don't forget to keep checking for recall news.
i was just fascinated by the part about cats, as a species, imprinting on food and non-food when very young. makes so much sense in terms of those who will kill for human food while others couldn't care less, and how difficult it is to change their diets. i'm hoping that one of the books will go into that aspect more fully.. On 4/18/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No actually I usually do one or the other, will have to give that a try. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: update on Cassidy
Hey Melissa, I called BF to talk to Joanie, the girl who is normally at BF's Casa de Calmar, but today is her day off, and the girl I spoke with didn't know if she would be back tomorrow or Friday. So I'm going to call and speak with Joanie again tomorrow and/or Friday and see what she thinks about this situation. So if you can hold tight for a day or two, we will probably have a better answer to this problem. I wish they were more flexible! If it were me, I'd probably wait and not go anyway, because of the costs associated and the fact that she might test negative. And I am betting come July 1 if she's still postitive, they'll be able to take her still and maybe by then you can get help with transport. This is all so rushed. And when I feel rushed, usually things don't feel right, you know? I wonder if your vet is aware there is a problem with his staff? You might let him know you are frustrated and thinking of going elsewhere because of all the mix-ups and that you aren't feeling secure with the service you are receiving which you take very seriously because you love your animals so much. Maybe he doesn't even know there are that many issues, and if he doesn't know, he can't fix it. I would be angry too if I were you. I do expect people in a business setting to get their job right as they are being paid to do so. I'm certainly not perfect at work, but I do a pretty decent job. If it were me dealing with people and their animals' health, I would take it very seriously. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: update on Cassidy
On 4/18/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Melissa, I called BF to talk to Joanie, the girl who is normally at BF's Casa de Calmar, but today is her day off, and the girl I spoke with didn't know if she would be back tomorrow or Friday. So I'm going to call and speak with Joanie again tomorrow and/or Friday and see what she thinks about this situation. So if you can hold tight for a day or two, we will probably have a better answer to this problem. I wish they were more flexible! If it were me, I'd probably wait and not go anyway, because of the costs associated and the fact that she might test negative. And I am betting come July 1 if she's still postitive, they'll be able to take her still and maybe by then you can get help with transport. This is all so rushed. And when I feel rushed, usually things don't feel right, you know? Honestly, Wendy, if it were me I would jump on it. I'm frankly amazed she was able to get a cat into BF. I know lots of people who have tried for very long periods of time to get cats into BF and were not able to do so. It can take months or years or never. I still don't know how she did it. I know that I was told that the FELV sanctuary Sherry volunteers at has a 40 cat waiting list and only takes cats from Michigan. I'm still worried about what I am going to do when I get a cat that tests positive, and I can assure you that if at any time BF would take a cat I needed to rehome, I would beg, borrow and steal if necessary to get that cat there. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Re: update on Cassidy
Re transporting FeLV+ cats, I have and I would never hesitate to transport any cat. It's difficult to find people to transport cats, period! Del - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: update on Cassidy http://purebredcatbreedrescue.org/transport.htm great info and resources on what is involved in setting up a transport; if you scroll down on the page, you'll find a link to some lists that work with cats. however, as a cat transporter, i'll tell you that most will not accept a cat with FeLV please contact me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the name of the city you're in, and the nearest couple of airports, and i'll see if i can find out if we can arrange anything with our special-needs transporter. MC On 4/18/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Beth, No I'm not part of any rescue list. At the beginning of this month three rescues found me, and I couldn't turn them away. I wasn't out looking for cats, it just happened. It was a wonderful thing since I was kind of feeling lost as to my purpose in life, and I've found my calling; however, starting my own rescue/shelter will take some time and planning. I'm working on getting a better job. I teach on-line courses for high school kids for college credit. The pay is horrendous—I figured out that's it's less that minimum wage per hour that I work! I like the teaching, somewhat, but for the amount of time I put into it… If you know of any rescue transport resources, please let me know! I'd hate to take money from people for gas, but if worse comes to worst, I could probably swallow my pride and do it. I'd have to pay you back, of course. Right now I'm working on paying off the vet bill. My husband makes a good amount of money, but he doesn't part with it easily for cat stuff. He thinks I should be on my own with this. We're not rich by any means—we live paycheck to paycheck pretty much—but I think even though he's kind hearted, if I turned on the waterworks for this, he'd still not be willing to give for the trip. I'll see what I can do between now and May 1st. I'll keep looking for transport funding on websites, etc. Thanks for your help—I know you probably have a lot of other things on your mind right now with the loss of poor Stamp. Melissa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gussies mom Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Are you part of any rescue lists? There are rescue transport lists with networks all over. There is even an air transport for animals. I'll see if I can find some info for you. If not, I'd be more than willing to send you a little money to help with gas. Beth Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Cassidy has to go to Best Friends soon after May 1st. They can't wait until July 1st for me to get a second IFA, but they said they'd keep him apart from the other FeLV cats if there was any doubt as to his status. But, I wonder what they consider doubt. I'd hate to expose him and he turns up negative in the future. And then there's the problem of funding the trip. I don't know how to come up with just the gas money before May 1st! Do you guys know of any place to turn to for help in a hurry? I figure it will cost me at least $240 for gas round trip. Plus, according to Map Quest, the drive is a little over 18 hours! That'll mean lodging along the way and at the destination. Then lodging on the way home unless I can get someone to take turns driving/sleeping. I know! Maybe I'll just hitch a ride with a trucker! They're used to long days like that! (Just kidding of course). Then there's the fact that I still don't have his first IFA test results (just the Elisa). I'm so frustrated by my vet's office! I like my vet quite a bit, but some of the helpers are a bunch of, pardon me, morons! I'm sure I couldn't do they're jobs, but I know I could keep things straight. They told me today that the lab work for Cassidy's IFA got lost in the mail, at the lab, somewhere. My guess is they forgot to send it, and now they need another sample. Who knows, but now we're really pushing the deadline for his trip to Utah. They want him to come in on Monday since they won't send to the lab until next week anyway. I think that if they won't put a rush on it (like tomorrow), then I'll just have to find a vet who will. Furthermore, I called this morning about my two rescues in the garage. One has the squirts, but I can't figure out which one. I can never catch them in the act! I wanted to know what I should do, and I also called to get Bandit's Prozac refilled. Okay, the receptionist takes down
Re: update on Cassidy
The only thing I can think of as to how Melissa got Cassidy in is because she does not run a rescue. I bet those with rescues do not get first dibs, because they are rescues, and once BF takes one from a shelter, they know there will be others because they are dealing with a shelter. If this is the case, it's probably not something written down because that would be discrimination. But it could be a possibility. I didn't realize it was so difficult to get an animal into BF. I didn't think it was, because they were not at full capacity in Casa de Calmar when I was there visiting. There are three rooms there, and none of them were maxed out. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: update on Cassidy
Thanks Del, I think each case is individual. I don't foresee any unusual problems with transporting Cassidy since he's in excellent health other than the difficulty that transporting any cat can have. My only problem is financial. I can handle the transporting as incredible of an experience as it might turn out to be! :-) Melissa PS. Do hotels allow for cats? I know many do for dogs, but I'm not sure about cats. He's very vocal, so keeping him a secret could be difficult! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Del H. Daniels Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Re transporting FeLV+ cats, I have and I would never hesitate to transport any cat. It's difficult to find people to transport cats, period! Del - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: update on Cassidy http://purebredcatbreedrescue.org/transport.htm great info and resources on what is involved in setting up a transport; if you scroll down on the page, you'll find a link to some lists that work with cats. however, as a cat transporter, i'll tell you that most will not accept a cat with FeLV please contact me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the name of the city you're in, and the nearest couple of airports, and i'll see if i can find out if we can arrange anything with our special-needs transporter. MC On 4/18/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Beth, No I'm not part of any rescue list. At the beginning of this month three rescues found me, and I couldn't turn them away. I wasn't out looking for cats, it just happened. It was a wonderful thing since I was kind of feeling lost as to my purpose in life, and I've found my calling; however, starting my own rescue/shelter will take some time and planning. I'm working on getting a better job. I teach on-line courses for high school kids for college credit. The pay is horrendous-I figured out that's it's less that minimum wage per hour that I work! I like the teaching, somewhat, but for the amount of time I put into it. If you know of any rescue transport resources, please let me know! I'd hate to take money from people for gas, but if worse comes to worst, I could probably swallow my pride and do it. I'd have to pay you back, of course. Right now I'm working on paying off the vet bill. My husband makes a good amount of money, but he doesn't part with it easily for cat stuff. He thinks I should be on my own with this. We're not rich by any means-we live paycheck to paycheck pretty much-but I think even though he's kind hearted, if I turned on the waterworks for this, he'd still not be willing to give for the trip. I'll see what I can do between now and May 1st. I'll keep looking for transport funding on websites, etc. Thanks for your help-I know you probably have a lot of other things on your mind right now with the loss of poor Stamp. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gussies mom Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Are you part of any rescue lists? There are rescue transport lists with networks all over. There is even an air transport for animals. I'll see if I can find some info for you. If not, I'd be more than willing to send you a little money to help with gas. Beth Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Cassidy has to go to Best Friends soon after May 1st. They can't wait until July 1st for me to get a second IFA, but they said they'd keep him apart from the other FeLV cats if there was any doubt as to his status. But, I wonder what they consider doubt. I'd hate to expose him and he turns up negative in the future. And then there's the problem of funding the trip. I don't know how to come up with just the gas money before May 1st! Do you guys know of any place to turn to for help in a hurry? I figure it will cost me at least $240 for gas round trip. Plus, according to Map Quest, the drive is a little over 18 hours! That'll mean lodging along the way and at the destination. Then lodging on the way home unless I can get someone to take turns driving/sleeping. I know! Maybe I'll just hitch a ride with a trucker! They're used to long days like that! (Just kidding of course). Then there's the fact that I still don't have his first IFA test results (just the Elisa). I'm so frustrated by my vet's office! I like my vet quite a bit, but some of the helpers are a bunch of, pardon me, morons! I'm sure I couldn't do they're jobs, but I know I could keep things straight. They told me today that the lab work for Cassidy's IFA got lost in the mail, at the lab, somewhere. My guess is they forgot to send it, and now they need another sample. Who knows, but now we're really pushing
RE: update on Cassidy
Good observation Wendy. I had wondered the same. I think they're full now from what I've been told. The lady who is helping me said the only way to get an FeLV+ in is usually when another passes on :( She said that they are very seldom adopted out. I hope that this vacancy is being adopted out and that's why I have to wait until May 1st. I'm very excited to visit the place after the descriptions you've given! Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy The only thing I can think of as to how Melissa got Cassidy in is because she does not run a rescue. I bet those with rescues do not get first dibs, because they are rescues, and once BF takes one from a shelter, they know there will be others because they are dealing with a shelter. If this is the case, it's probably not something written down because that would be discrimination. But it could be a possibility. I didn't realize it was so difficult to get an animal into BF. I didn't think it was, because they were not at full capacity in Casa de Calmar when I was there visiting. There are three rooms there, and none of them were maxed out. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: update on Cassidy
Melissa, I know you will love it if you end up going. And if you stay at the BF property, it's not as expensive as if you stay in Kanab; the cabins are $70. It's really beautiful there, in a canyon-like way. Probably very different from Nebraska. If I were close, I would definitely help with transport, but I'm pretty far away. There is a kitty at BF that I absolutely love. Her name is Toshie. The lady I spoke with today said she's doing great. Shredding paper towel reams as usual...lol! I so wish I could adopt her (ie. that she was negative). I'd go pick her up right now. I guess either way, you were going to be adopting Cassidy out, right? So if she does turn negative and is at BF, she will be adopted. They adopt out 75% of their adoptable animals. The ones who are unadoptable are mainly dogs that have behavior issues. :) Wendy --- Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good observation Wendy. I had wondered the same. I think they're full now from what I've been told. The lady who is helping me said the only way to get an FeLV+ in is usually when another passes on :( She said that they are very seldom adopted out. I hope that this vacancy is being adopted out and that's why I have to wait until May 1st. I'm very excited to visit the place after the descriptions you've given! Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy The only thing I can think of as to how Melissa got Cassidy in is because she does not run a rescue. I bet those with rescues do not get first dibs, because they are rescues, and once BF takes one from a shelter, they know there will be others because they are dealing with a shelter. If this is the case, it's probably not something written down because that would be discrimination. But it could be a possibility. I didn't realize it was so difficult to get an animal into BF. I didn't think it was, because they were not at full capacity in Casa de Calmar when I was there visiting. There are three rooms there, and none of them were maxed out. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
OT: Best Friends forums/rescue thread
Hey guys, BF online forums seem interesting. I'm going to try to look into them in the next few days. They have a rescue thread that I thought some of you might be interested in. Here's the link to the forums: http://65.205.160.196/idealbb/default.asp?sessionID={712CACF9-E72E-4EA8-8F43-217D33827BD3} :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Cassidy
Ok, found some other posts on Cassidy, HE, sorry I referred to HIM as a female. And you are in Nebraska, I'm no help there. Re Ashley and URIs, if she is an adult: the best is L-Lysine, 500 mg twice a day. Buy the capsules or loose powder, usually a health food store. You can mix in a bit of water then into the canned food if she eats that. If not, mix with water, maybe 2 cc, then syringe it. If she is a kitten 2 months or older use only half that amount If she is not on any other medication, and had runny nose/eyes, congestion, an anti-histamine works. again for an adult. If she is a kitten you have to ask your vet who doesn't sound so hot. I use Chlorpheniramine (generic for Clotrimitron), not the 12 hour formula. Give 2 mg (1/2 tablet, every 12 hours for an adult cat. I also give my URIs Interferon (1 cc)(prescription) during the outbreak. It also lowers the virus in the system as does Lysine so if you can use both, it's a double whammy against the virus. Del - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: Re: Cassidy and Ashley are home! Beth, Yes, yes, they spayed, vaccinated, the works. I'm sorry if this was not the thing to do; I'm not very knowledgeable yet. As someone pointed out on an earlier post-we're all learning. I guess I have a lot of learning to do-more than most. I appreciate the advice. I asked my vet today if I should give her anything-he said no as long as the discharge is clear. Poor baby, she just sits on her nest in front of the heater. But, she has moved around a lot more since yesterday. Now when I go to visit her, she comes down to eat and talk a little. Let me know if you have any advice for us. I'm going to look into Lysine. Problem around here is that there are not a lot of resources for sick kitties. No one cares. Melissa
Re: update on Cassidy
Hotels may not allow for cats ... you choose a motel with an outdoor entrance away from the main office and they will not know you have a kitty. Play music. I use an open wire dog crate large enough to litter box and place to lay while in the motel, some of those motels have hidey holes where it is difficult to get a hiding cat out, like behind the head of the bed! Del - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: RE: update on Cassidy Thanks Del, I think each case is individual. I don't foresee any unusual problems with transporting Cassidy since he's in excellent health other than the difficulty that transporting any cat can have. My only problem is financial. I can handle the transporting as incredible of an experience as it might turn out to be! J Melissa PS. Do hotels allow for cats? I know many do for dogs, but I'm not sure about cats. He's very vocal, so keeping him a secret could be difficult! -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Del H. Daniels Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Re transporting FeLV+ cats, I have and I would never hesitate to transport any cat. It's difficult to find people to transport cats, period! Del - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: update on Cassidy http://purebredcatbreedrescue.org/transport.htm great info and resources on what is involved in setting up a transport; if you scroll down on the page, you'll find a link to some lists that work with cats. however, as a cat transporter, i'll tell you that most will not accept a cat with FeLV please contact me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the name of the city you're in, and the nearest couple of airports, and i'll see if i can find out if we can arrange anything with our special-needs transporter. MC On 4/18/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Beth, No I'm not part of any rescue list. At the beginning of this month three rescues found me, and I couldn't turn them away. I wasn't out looking for cats, it just happened. It was a wonderful thing since I was kind of feeling lost as to my purpose in life, and I've found my calling; however, starting my own rescue/shelter will take some time and planning. I'm working on getting a better job. I teach on-line courses for high school kids for college credit. The pay is horrendous-I figured out that's it's less that minimum wage per hour that I work! I like the teaching, somewhat, but for the amount of time I put into it. If you know of any rescue transport resources, please let me know! I'd hate to take money from people for gas, but if worse comes to worst, I could probably swallow my pride and do it. I'd have to pay you back, of course. Right now I'm working on paying off the vet bill. My husband makes a good amount of money, but he doesn't part with it easily for cat stuff. He thinks I should be on my own with this. We're not rich by any means-we live paycheck to paycheck pretty much-but I think even though he's kind hearted, if I turned on the waterworks for this, he'd still not be willing to give for the trip. I'll see what I can do between now and May 1st. I'll keep looking for transport funding on websites, etc. Thanks for your help-I know you probably have a lot of other things on your mind right now with the loss of poor Stamp. Melissa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gussies mom Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Are you part of any rescue lists? There are rescue transport lists with networks all over. There is even an air transport for animals. I'll see if I can find some info for you. If not, I'd be more than willing to send you a little money to help with gas. Beth Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Cassidy has to go to Best Friends soon after May 1st. They can't wait until July 1st for me to get a second IFA, but they said they'd keep him apart from the other FeLV cats if there was any doubt as to his status. But, I wonder what they consider doubt. I'd hate to expose him and he turns up negative in the future. And then there's the problem of funding the trip. I don't know how to come up with just the gas money before May 1st! Do you guys know of any place to turn to for help in a hurry? I figure it will cost me at least $240 for gas round trip. Plus, according to Map Quest, the
Re: foot problem, FeLV?
Don't know about the foot problem. Front paw or back paw? What is the time frame between his positive ELISA and the IFA. I think his IFA could be negative and he still be positive if the time is less that 90 days between them. You are in a real spot, aren't you. If you wait that time out Cassidy may lose his BF placement. Del - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: foot problem, FeLV? Hi, I'm writing about Cassidy again. I was looking into posting for adoption on other special needs websites, and I found one cat whose description fit Cassidy's, sort of. The other cat had the same problem of walking on the knuckles of one foot and wearing away the fur there. My vet said that with Cassidy, it was nerve damage to the spine somewhere around the pelvic area, but that he couldn't rule out the fact that it could be FeLV related. Since Cassidy has been living in my office, on carpet, he has not walked on the knuckles of that paw. He only does that when he gets to running around, and this room is so small, not much room to run. His foot is now looking very nice-not swollen or red, just pink from the missing fur. I guess what I want to know is this: do you think this is a symptom of FeLV? I'm still waiting on his IFA test (another blood sample must be taken, if you've read my other post), and I was hoping beyond hope that his IFA would be negative. I thought that since he had no symptoms whatsoever he might have a chance that the Elisa was wrong. He's very healthy. Good stools. Good appetite. Doesn't sleep more than most. Just all-over a regular cat. But, maybe this foot thing indicates his FeLV. I hope not. Even if his IFA comes back positive, I was hoping that since he has no symptoms now, that he'd have more time to live happily. Melissa
RE: update on Cassidy
Great advice! As for the post about Ashley, she's not as sickly now, but her one eye does run a little. I'll ask my vet for something tomorrow when I go there. Thanks! Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Del H. Daniels Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Hotels may not allow for cats ... you choose a motel with an outdoor entrance away from the main office and they will not know you have a kitty. Play music. I use an open wire dog crate large enough to litter box and place to lay while in the motel, some of those motels have hidey holes where it is difficult to get a hiding cat out, like behind the head of the bed! Del - Original Message - From: Melissa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: RE: update on Cassidy Thanks Del, I think each case is individual. I don't foresee any unusual problems with transporting Cassidy since he's in excellent health other than the difficulty that transporting any cat can have. My only problem is financial. I can handle the transporting as incredible of an experience as it might turn out to be! :-) Melissa PS. Do hotels allow for cats? I know many do for dogs, but I'm not sure about cats. He's very vocal, so keeping him a secret could be difficult! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Del H. Daniels Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Re transporting FeLV+ cats, I have and I would never hesitate to transport any cat. It's difficult to find people to transport cats, period! Del - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: update on Cassidy http://purebredcatbreedrescue.org/transport.htm great info and resources on what is involved in setting up a transport; if you scroll down on the page, you'll find a link to some lists that work with cats. however, as a cat transporter, i'll tell you that most will not accept a cat with FeLV please contact me offlist at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the name of the city you're in, and the nearest couple of airports, and i'll see if i can find out if we can arrange anything with our special-needs transporter. MC On 4/18/07, Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Beth, No I'm not part of any rescue list. At the beginning of this month three rescues found me, and I couldn't turn them away. I wasn't out looking for cats, it just happened. It was a wonderful thing since I was kind of feeling lost as to my purpose in life, and I've found my calling; however, starting my own rescue/shelter will take some time and planning. I'm working on getting a better job. I teach on-line courses for high school kids for college credit. The pay is horrendous-I figured out that's it's less that minimum wage per hour that I work! I like the teaching, somewhat, but for the amount of time I put into it. If you know of any rescue transport resources, please let me know! I'd hate to take money from people for gas, but if worse comes to worst, I could probably swallow my pride and do it. I'd have to pay you back, of course. Right now I'm working on paying off the vet bill. My husband makes a good amount of money, but he doesn't part with it easily for cat stuff. He thinks I should be on my own with this. We're not rich by any means-we live paycheck to paycheck pretty much-but I think even though he's kind hearted, if I turned on the waterworks for this, he'd still not be willing to give for the trip. I'll see what I can do between now and May 1st. I'll keep looking for transport funding on websites, etc. Thanks for your help-I know you probably have a lot of other things on your mind right now with the loss of poor Stamp. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gussies mom Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Are you part of any rescue lists? There are rescue transport lists with networks all over. There is even an air transport for animals. I'll see if I can find some info for you. If not, I'd be more than willing to send you a little money to help with gas. Beth Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Cassidy has to go to Best Friends soon after May 1st. They can't wait until July 1st for me to get a second IFA, but they said they'd keep him apart from the other FeLV cats if there was any doubt as to his status. But, I wonder what they consider doubt. I'd hate to expose him and he turns up negative in the future. And then there's the problem of funding the trip. I don't know how to come up with just the gas money before May 1st! Do you guys
RE: update on Cassidy
Diane, Del, Yes, I'm in a tight spot. I can't keep him either way (if he ends up positive or negative), but if they isolate him for a while and he turns up negative, then as Wendy pointed out, they'd most likely find him a good home. If he's positive, then it sounds like he's in a better home than with me. Poor guy is sleeping on the cat tree right now having no clue that I'm anguishing about his fate... I don't really understand the time wait between the Elisa and the IFA. I was told that I had to have the Elisa's positive confirmed with an IFA positive, and then re-test in 90 days with another IFA. BF will re-test I've been told. What I basically understood from others is that the Elisa isn't really as reliable, so don't go by it anyway. But I do agree that another IFA is definitely needed to confirm his status. Such a dilemma, I'm not sure what I'll decide. I suppose the IFA results will tell me more. Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill. What's $400 dollars or whatever the trip will take compared to the happy life he could lead there? Maybe I could try and sweet talk my husband somehow...with that thought, I'd better go do the dishes! :) Melissa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosenfeldt, Diane Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: update on Cassidy Wendy, I'm glad you posted this. I was afraid I had missed or forgotten some detail about the situation that made it absolutely vital that Cassidy actually go to BF NOW. I agree with you, if this is such a rush and a hardship, Melissa would be better off waiting for some firm results on the IFA -- preferably one taken a few months from now -- than trying to hustle together some arrangements to get Cassidy to BF in less than 2 weeks. Trying to move him now will take a toll on finances, marriage and emotions, and there would be an even greater toll if, after all this, Cassidy turned out to have shed the virus and it would all have been for nothing. No matter how wonderful BF is, by the nature of the cats they take in, there will, sadly, always be turnover. If Cassidy is truly positive, I am sure there will be a place for him down the line. I can't imagine that BF would be insensitive to the many difficulties Melissa is going through at the moment. Melissa, I know these decisions don't come easily, and ultimately you're the one who has to make them, but please don't let yourself be rushed into all this angst and expense without sitting down and thinking it through again. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:18 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: update on Cassidy Hey Melissa, I called BF to talk to Joanie, the girl who is normally at BF's Casa de Calmar, but today is her day off, and the girl I spoke with didn't know if she would be back tomorrow or Friday. So I'm going to call and speak with Joanie again tomorrow and/or Friday and see what she thinks about this situation. So if you can hold tight for a day or two, we will probably have a better answer to this problem. I wish they were more flexible! If it were me, I'd probably wait and not go anyway, because of the costs associated and the fact that she might test negative. And I am betting come July 1 if she's still postitive, they'll be able to take her still and maybe by then you can get help with transport. This is all so rushed. And when I feel rushed, usually things don't feel right, you know? I wonder if your vet is aware there is a problem with his staff? You might let him know you are frustrated and thinking of going elsewhere because of all the mix-ups and that you aren't feeling secure with the service you are receiving which you take very seriously because you love your animals so much. Maybe he doesn't even know there are that many issues, and if he doesn't know, he can't fix it. I would be angry too if I were you. I do expect people in a business setting to get their job right as they are being paid to do so. I'm certainly not perfect at work, but I do a pretty decent job. If it were me dealing with people and their animals' health, I would take it very seriously. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we
Re: foot problem, FeLV?
I've never heard of any feet/paw problems associated with FeLV. How does the vet know the injury wasn't a bite of some sort, and that's why he's testing positive now? If he did get it from a recent bite, and he's an adult, then he probably has a pretty good chance of throwing this virus. :) Wendy --- Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm writing about Cassidy again. I was looking into posting for adoption on other special needs websites, and I found one cat whose description fit Cassidy's, sort of. The other cat had the same problem of walking on the knuckles of one foot and wearing away the fur there. My vet said that with Cassidy, it was nerve damage to the spine somewhere around the pelvic area, but that he couldn't rule out the fact that it could be FeLV related. Since Cassidy has been living in my office, on carpet, he has not walked on the knuckles of that paw. He only does that when he gets to running around, and this room is so small, not much room to run. His foot is now looking very nice-not swollen or red, just pink from the missing fur. I guess what I want to know is this: do you think this is a symptom of FeLV? I'm still waiting on his IFA test (another blood sample must be taken, if you've read my other post), and I was hoping beyond hope that his IFA would be negative. I thought that since he had no symptoms whatsoever he might have a chance that the Elisa was wrong. He's very healthy. Good stools. Good appetite. Doesn't sleep more than most. Just all-over a regular cat. But, maybe this foot thing indicates his FeLV. I hope not. Even if his IFA comes back positive, I was hoping that since he has no symptoms now, that he'd have more time to live happily. Melissa Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: sigh. don't forget to keep checking for recall news.
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Camilla Please add to the CLS :(
Through tears once again I write to you.Camilla was a sweet tortie with an awesome personality.She will be missed by many.The lady I volunteer with on Thursdays totally loved her,every time when we were ready to leave for the night she would tell CamillaNow you be here next week ok I hurt for her loss and mine,not to mention Dr. Jens. THank you all for being here for me.Nobody understands more than ALL of you.This has been a horrible month with losing babies. Sherry - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Stamp went tp the bridge
I understand. It takes so much out of you without you realizing it. Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 18, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Gussies mom wrote: Thank you everyone. I think I have had enough of FeLV for awhile. There is a new FeLV long haired orange and white kitten at the shelter and I know they want to me to take it, but I don't want to expose him to FIP. I think I could have handled the FeLV in Stamp, but the FIP on top of it, no. It's funny how such a small bundle of black fur can have such personality and such make such an imprint on your heart. I'll check back in once in awhile, but I think I need a break for now. Take care, Beth Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: sigh. don't forget to keep checking for recall news.
The 3 Orange Boyz will try anything! Muffins are a great favorite and since they are not supposed to like sweet things I assume it's the texture. And doughnut holes! Although, I have to say, I don't think those scientists know everything. Maybe some kitties DO enjoy sweet things! Also, my cat Jack used to gaze at himself in the mirror--it was just so neat! And one evening I was snacking on prunes and that's when I discovered that Billi Bi my tuxedo boy runs off with the plastic lid. He looks so funny going down the hall with that big yellow lid in his mouth! The first time he walked around with it he misjudged it's width and bumped into the doorframe! Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 18, 2007, at 1:55 PM, Belinda wrote: That seems to be true for the most part because those I've had since kittenhood have had a greater variety in their diet, including human food and Joey being one will eat just about anything, he is not picky at all. My others I got as strays with unknown past histories, some will eat a variety and some will not, they will eat one or two things and that is it!! i was just fascinated by the part about cats, as a species, imprinting on food and non-food when very young. makes so much sense in terms of those who will kill for human food while others couldn't care less, and how difficult it is to change their diets. i'm hoping that one of the books will go into that aspect more fully.. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Camilla Please add to the CLS :(
Camilla sends you so much love and to the lady you speak of. She knows how hard your job is and loves you even more for caring about a little lost girl such as herself. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaan To: Felvtalk Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:15 PM Subject: Camilla Please add to the CLS :( Through tears once again I write to you.Camilla was a sweet tortie with an awesome personality.She will be missed by many.The lady I volunteer with on Thursdays totally loved her,every time when we were ready to leave for the night she would tell CamillaNow you be here next week ok I hurt for her loss and mine,not to mention Dr. Jens. THank you all for being here for me.Nobody understands more than ALL of you.This has been a horrible month with losing babies. Sherry -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.