Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
I wasn't following this string but just so you know, unless things have changed...this sanctuary does not separate FeLV positive from FIV positive cats. Also, if at all possible, it is best for kitty to live in a home and not be exposed to so many other cats with illnesses. He or she will live a lot longer. Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:26:35 -0400 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary http://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/ On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Where is The Best Little Cat House in PA? On 05-26, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Where are you located? Where is the Sanctuary? The best little cat house in Penn. will take him for free when there is room. Regards. C ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Thanks, and a personal query (Aries/Jennifer R. in PA? (was Re: Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group?
Hi again-- One of the wonderful members here -- Gloria -- signed on to Facebook and gave the poster some good info on dealing with a FELV+ kitty. Thank you so much! I hope the person fostering the kitty can find a good place for it. I have another question. Three years ago, I placed a FELV+ kitty, Aries, in a home/haven in Pennsylvania owned by a Jennifer R. I tried to email her yesterday, but her email abounced. Jennifer? Are you out there? Please email me offlist if you are. Thanks again for everything, Felvtalkers! Your work is important, and very very appreciated. Regards, Jean *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^** Please note: For some bizarre reason, Yahoo has been depositing a lot of my legitimate email into my BULK folder, and putting spam in my inbox. I think they're tweaking their spam settings, but it's causing problems with mail delivery. If you do not hear back from me in a timely manner and you are expecting a response, please do not think I'm ignoring you. It's likely I have not received your message. If you have my telephone number, please call it. You can also email again -- that works sometimes. Otherwise, I check the bulk folder more frequently than I did, and I hopefully will find your message. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thanks, and a personal query (Aries/Jennifer R. in PA? (was Re: Anyone onLiveJournal's catlovers group?
Thanks for the kind words, Jean - glad I had time to do it and hope it helps in some way. I didn't know about that group. And re Jennifer, I found a couple of messages in the archives - her phone number shows up at 814-641-7160 --- My name is Jennifer Reihart and I run a hospice center/rescue for cats with FeLv. I have been doing it for over 6 years and have gotten cats from all over the eastern US. OH, NY, NJ, PA, NC, and even as far as Texas. We have a huge house, and take in cats from different areas, and various backgrounds and give them a place to call home. I am independent, my husband and I do this on our own, and out of love for these special cats. They have free run of the home, and get lots of love and attention. We currently have 13, and they all have their own space, however at night our bed is covered in cats. I have gotten several cats from FeLv.org and have given them a loving home. We have had 3 live past 9, most live until 5 or 6, we have one that is 7. We don't do anything special, they get good cat food, wet in the morning-dry throughout the day. But what I think is our secret to having them live longer is lots of love. they are all used to being petted, kissed, and made over. Each one has it's own special personality, that's what I love about cats, no two are the same. I just wanted to introduce myself to the group. We have worked a little with the Marley fund in NC, but mostly we take cats from various rescue groups and individuals who are desperate to find a good home for their cats. We do insist they bring the cat's here so that they can see the love and attention we give the cats. This set's their mind at ease, and makes the transition easier. --- Gloria On Jun 1, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Jean wrote: Hi again-- One of the wonderful members here -- Gloria -- signed on to Facebook and gave the poster some good info on dealing with a FELV+ kitty. Thank you so much! I hope the person fostering the kitty can find a good place for it. I have another question. Three years ago, I placed a FELV+ kitty, Aries, in a home/haven in Pennsylvania owned by a Jennifer R. I tried to email her yesterday, but her email abounced. Jennifer? Are you out there? Please email me offlist if you are. Thanks again for everything, Felvtalkers! Your work is important, and very very appreciated. Regards, Jean *^ *^ *^ *^ *^ *^ *^ *^ *^ *^ *^ *^ *^ *^ *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^** Please note: For some bizarre reason, Yahoo has been depositing a lot of my legitimate email into my BULK folder, and putting spam in my inbox. I think they're tweaking their spam settings, but it's causing problems with mail delivery. If you do not hear back from me in a timely manner and you are expecting a response, please do not think I'm ignoring you. It's likely I have not received your message. If you have my telephone number, please call it. You can also email again -- that works sometimes. Otherwise, I check the bulk folder more frequently than I did, and I hopefully will find your message. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
Harrisburg Pa.717 469-2540 Lynn Stitt. Cathy . --- On Sat, 5/30/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 9:26 PM http://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/ On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Where is The Best Little Cat House in PA? On 05-26, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: Where are you located? Where is the Sanctuary? The best little cat house in Penn. will take him for free when there is room. Regards. C ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
just to cause more trouble, as i'm so good at doing, not separating is NOT necessarily the worse thing, if death is the only alternative. FIVs are generally the healthiest populations at any sanctuary, and they throw off FeLV at the same or possibly a higher rate than any other cat--double-positives will often end up testing positive only for FIV after living in a FeLV environment. remember that most cats who end up in sanctuary settings are NOT up for adoption--if they were considered adoptable, and rescues or shelters were willing to try to find them homes, they wouldn't be going to sanctuaries. while some sanctuaries do have active adoption programs, many do not, for very good reasons: they have to spend their time and money taking care of unwanted, undesirable, unadoptable cats. folks who are willing to adopt FIVs and FeLVs are far more willing, also, to be--or equally willing to be--educable about the facts re: the two viruses, and understand that living with FeLVs in order to live doesn't mean you're gonna BE one of the them. which is not a blanket endorsement of the practice, but if we truly believe what we're saying, and what the research is showing us, we have to carry it out further--it'd be great if there were an FIV/FeLV sanctuary in every town, with a separate room for each population, but it ain't happening, and these cats do NOT deserve to die for lack of space. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
Agree. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 2:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary just to cause more trouble, as i'm so good at doing, not separating is NOT necessarily the worse thing, if death is the only alternative. FIVs are generally the healthiest populations at any sanctuary, and they throw off FeLV at the same or possibly a higher rate than any other cat--double-positives will often end up testing positive only for FIV after living in a FeLV environment. remember that most cats who end up in sanctuary settings are NOT up for adoption--if they were considered adoptable, and rescues or shelters were willing to try to find them homes, they wouldn't be going to sanctuaries. while some sanctuaries do have active adoption programs, many do not, for very good reasons: they have to spend their time and money taking care of unwanted, undesirable, unadoptable cats. folks who are willing to adopt FIVs and FeLVs are far more willing, also, to be--or equally willing to be--educable about the facts re: the two viruses, and understand that living with FeLVs in order to live doesn't mean you're gonna BE one of the them. which is not a blanket endorsement of the practice, but if we truly believe what we're saying, and what the research is showing us, we have to carry it out further--it'd be great if there were an FIV/FeLV sanctuary in every town, with a separate room for each population, but it ain't happening, and these cats do NOT deserve to die for lack of space. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now
Thank you all for the words of support. Sweet Darcy went downhill so fast, becoming unable to walk. I drove to an emergency clinic where they did their best for her through the weekend. Yesterday we helped her to the Bridge, knowing there was just no more anyone could do. Her FeLv wouldn't let her fight off the ravages of whatever attacked her - probably a cancer that centered in her nervous system. We miss her dreadfully but know she had a good life with us, short though it was. She was much loved. Jody Help blind cats see a future! www.blindcatrescue.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now
Jody, I am so sorry your sweet Darcy has left you. It is an awful thing these FeLV kitties endure. Thanks for taking such good care of her I will always miss my angels. Hugs, Sally . Jody Help blind cats see a future! www.blindcatrescue.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Sally(me), Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Lionel(angel),Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior, Hotdog (newest) Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now
Jody, I am so sorry Darcy lost her fightbut I am so grateful that her short life was blessed by having your love. Debbie (COL) The time is always right to do what is right - Martin Luther King Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:32:28 -0700 From: jbutler5...@bellsouth.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now Thank you all for the words of support. Sweet Darcy went downhill so fast, becoming unable to walk. I drove to an emergency clinic where they did their best for her through the weekend. Yesterday we helped her to the Bridge, knowing there was just no more anyone could do. Her FeLv wouldn't let her fight off the ravages of whatever attacked her - probably a cancer that centered in her nervous system. We miss her dreadfully but know she had a good life with us, short though it was. She was much loved. Jody Help blind cats see a future! www.blindcatrescue.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now
GLOW to guide her home, and to heal your hearts. thank you for loving her, and sharing some of her life with us. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
Wouldn't it depend on quality of life? Any sanctuary should be checked out prior with a personal visit and some questions. Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:09:33 -0400 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary just to cause more trouble, as i'm so good at doing, not separating is NOT necessarily the worse thing, if death is the only alternative. FIVs are generally the healthiest populations at any sanctuary, and they throw off FeLV at the same or possibly a higher rate than any other cat--double-positives will often end up testing positive only for FIV after living in a FeLV environment. remember that most cats who end up in sanctuary settings are NOT up for adoption--if they were considered adoptable, and rescues or shelters were willing to try to find them homes, they wouldn't be going to sanctuaries. while some sanctuaries do have active adoption programs, many do not, for very good reasons: they have to spend their time and money taking care of unwanted, undesirable, unadoptable cats. folks who are willing to adopt FIVs and FeLVs are far more willing, also, to be--or equally willing to be--educable about the facts re: the two viruses, and understand that living with FeLVs in order to live doesn't mean you're gonna BE one of the them. which is not a blanket endorsement of the practice, but if we truly believe what we're saying, and what the research is showing us, we have to carry it out further--it'd be great if there were an FIV/FeLV sanctuary in every town, with a separate room for each population, but it ain't happening, and these cats do NOT deserve to die for lack of space. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
Wouldn't what depend on quality of life? On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com wrote: Wouldn't it depend on quality of life? Any sanctuary should be checked out prior with a personal visit and some questions. Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:09:33 -0400 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary just to cause more trouble, as i'm so good at doing, not separating is NOT necessarily the worse thing, if death is the only alternative. FIVs are generally the healthiest populations at any sanctuary, and they throw off FeLV at the same or possibly a higher rate than any other cat--double-positives will often end up testing positive only for FIV after living in a FeLV environment. remember that most cats who end up in sanctuary settings are NOT up for adoption--if they were considered adoptable, and rescues or shelters were willing to try to find them homes, they wouldn't be going to sanctuaries. while some sanctuaries do have active adoption programs, many do not, for very good reasons: they have to spend their time and money taking care of unwanted, undesirable, unadoptable cats. folks who are willing to adopt FIVs and FeLVs are far more willing, also, to be--or equally willing to be--educable about the facts re: the two viruses, and understand that living with FeLVs in order to live doesn't mean you're gonna BE one of the them. which is not a blanket endorsement of the practice, but if we truly believe what we're saying, and what the research is showing us, we have to carry it out further--it'd be great if there were an FIV/FeLV sanctuary in every town, with a separate room for each population, but it ain't happening, and these cats do NOT deserve to die for lack of space. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue ( www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/30-spays-in-30-days Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
of course if depends on quality of life, but you also have to have a realistic definition of what that means. i've found that many people tend to judge quality of life in human terms, and in light of what they would like to be able to provide to a housecat--and that is NOT necessarily what a sanctuary can and even should be able to provide. people often have unrealistic expectation of the places that take in the unwanted, and while there are DEFINITELY enough horror stories to go around, until more folks can step up and share the burden, they perhaps need to revise down their own personal standards. let's have a task force of folks who volunteer to go to sanctuaries nearby where they live, and report back to the rest of us. let's talk with people who've had to try to make decisions regarding how best to care for large number of critters, and see what it's like to make the choices needed. let's ask the cats -- you can tell happy cats when you see them, and plush surroundings are NOT the standard MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
I'd like to add - you can't have ANY quality of life if you are DEAD. See The Fallacy of Fates Worse than Death by Nathan Winograd http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=1076 On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:45 PM, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.comwrote: of course if depends on quality of life, but you also have to have a realistic definition of what that means. i've found that many people tend to judge quality of life in human terms, and in light of what they would like to be able to provide to a housecat--and that is NOT necessarily what a sanctuary can and even should be able to provide. people often have unrealistic expectation of the places that take in the unwanted, and while there are DEFINITELY enough horror stories to go around, until more folks can step up and share the burden, they perhaps need to revise down their own personal standards. let's have a task force of folks who volunteer to go to sanctuaries nearby where they live, and report back to the rest of us. let's talk with people who've had to try to make decisions regarding how best to care for large number of critters, and see what it's like to make the choices needed. let's ask the cats -- you can tell happy cats when you see them, and plush surroundings are NOT the standard MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/30-spays-in-30-days Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now
I'm so sorry Jody. You gave her the most precious things of all, the knowledge she was truly loved, and release from her pain. Rest in peace, sweet Darcy. hugs, Kerry M. On 01/06/2009, at 2:32 PM, Jody Butler wrote: Thank you all for the words of support. Sweet Darcy went downhill so fast, becoming unable to walk. I drove to an emergency clinic where they did their best for her through the weekend. Yesterday we helped her to the Bridge, knowing there was just no more anyone could do. Her FeLv wouldn't let her fight off the ravages of whatever attacked her - probably a cancer that centered in her nervous system. We miss her dreadfully but know she had a good life with us, short though it was. She was much loved. Jody Help blind cats see a future! www.blindcatrescue.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] quality of life/fates worse than death
not exactly what we were talking about, but then again. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=95876917773h=zHhF_u=bAdDOref=nf -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group?
uh oh, am i being technologically backward again? it keeps telling me i'm not authorized to see the entry, and yes, i AM registered on the site -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group?
Same thing happened to me, MC. I am a LiveJournal user but was told it was a protected site. I know some sites are protected to keep out trolls. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 4:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group? uh oh, am i being technologically backward again? it keeps telling me i'm not authorized to see the entry, and yes, i AM registered on the site -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group?
picturing a batch of us, all with long orangish hair, holding plastic hands, looking in On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.comwrote: Same thing happened to me, MC. I am a LiveJournal user but was told it was a protected site. I know some sites are protected to keep out trolls. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 4:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group? uh oh, am i being technologically backward again? it keeps telling me i'm not authorized to see the entry, and yes, i AM registered on the site -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group?
I had the same problem. I'm registered but I couldn't get on that site. Sidney ** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377040x1201454360/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp;hmpgID=62amp; bcd=JuneExcfooterNO62) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group?
You gotta register and join the group AND send their little email back. GLoria On Jun 1, 2009, at 4:33 PM, MaryChristine wrote: uh oh, am i being technologically backward again? it keeps telling me i'm not authorized to see the entry, and yes, i AM registered on the site -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group?
oh, you mean, like find where it says, join this community, and follow the directions? who'd have thunk it thanks, dear On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: You gotta register and join the group AND send their little email back. GLoria On Jun 1, 2009, at 4:33 PM, MaryChristine wrote: uh oh, am i being technologically backward again? it keeps telling me i'm not authorized to see the entry, and yes, i AM registered on the site -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue ( www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
the ASPCA sends cats there. --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Stray Cat Alliance stray_cat_allia...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:30 PM Wouldn't it depend on quality of life? Any sanctuary should be checked out prior with a personal visit and some questions. Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:09:33 -0400 From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary just to cause more trouble, as i'm so good at doing, not separating is NOT necessarily the worse thing, if death is the only alternative. FIVs are generally the healthiest populations at any sanctuary, and they throw off FeLV at the same or possibly a higher rate than any other cat--double-positives will often end up testing positive only for FIV after living in a FeLV environment. remember that most cats who end up in sanctuary settings are NOT up for adoption--if they were considered adoptable, and rescues or shelters were willing to try to find them homes, they wouldn't be going to sanctuaries. while some sanctuaries do have active adoption programs, many do not, for very good reasons: they have to spend their time and money taking care of unwanted, undesirable, unadoptable cats. folks who are willing to adopt FIVs and FeLVs are far more willing, also, to be--or equally willing to be--educable about the facts re: the two viruses, and understand that living with FeLVs in order to live doesn't mean you're gonna BE one of the them. which is not a blanket endorsement of the practice, but if we truly believe what we're saying, and what the research is showing us, we have to carry it out further--it'd be great if there were an FIV/FeLV sanctuary in every town, with a separate room for each population, but it ain't happening, and these cats do NOT deserve to die for lack of space. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Hotmail® goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
I had the opportunity to visit the CW Rustic Hollow Shelter in IA. Looking for a forever home for my cats when I die. They have a excellent set up with multiple houses/buildings/barns. Each building is heated and has air conditioning. Most windows have an attached screened-in enclosure so the kitties can enjoy the nice weather. There are several TVs in each building running kitties videos. Most of the buildings are old but it is obvious the kitties are well loved. In addition to a paid staff, volunteers come in every day to feed the kitties and scoop the litter boxes. The rooms had hand me down furniture for the kitties to lounge on. It isn't the Ritz but everything was clean. They have a board of directors and plans in place to keep the facility going if/when something happens to the original owners. Most importantly they will take FeLV+ kitties and other special needs kitties. I am having my will changed so my cats will go there when the time comes. I sponsor one of their kitties with neurological issues. Here is the link to their web site if anyone is interested. http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/ Sharyl --- On Mon, 6/1/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:45 PM of course if depends on quality of life, but you also have to have a realistic definition of what that means. i've found that many people tend to judge quality of life in human terms, and in light of what they would like to be able to provide to a housecat--and that is NOT necessarily what a sanctuary can and even should be able to provide. people often have unrealistic expectation of the places that take in the unwanted, and while there are DEFINITELY enough horror stories to go around, until more folks can step up and share the burden, they perhaps need to revise down their own personal standards. let's have a task force of folks who volunteer to go to sanctuaries nearby where they live, and report back to the rest of us. let's talk with people who've had to try to make decisions regarding how best to care for large number of critters, and see what it's like to make the choices needed. let's ask the cats -- you can tell happy cats when you see them, and plush surroundings are NOT the standard MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(
I am so sorry to say that Tigerlily lost her battle yesterday.She had quickly deteriorated overnight.She was one of those cats that won you over right away.She had a way of talking to you with littlr ppss.This has been a rough week for us volunteers,but even rougher for Dr. Jen. Yesterday I forwarded a few of your kind words to her and it really made her feel good.She said she really needed it. So thank you all for being there. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now
Jody I am so sorry you lost your sweet Darcy.She was lucky to have someone like you to love her.Hugs to you. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jody Butler jbutler5...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Jody Butler jbutler5...@bellsouth.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 3:32 PM Thank you all for the words of support. Sweet Darcy went downhill so fast, becoming unable to walk. I drove to an emergency clinic where they did their best for her through the weekend. Yesterday we helped her to the Bridge, knowing there was just no more anyone could do. Her FeLv wouldn't let her fight off the ravages of whatever attacked her - probably a cancer that centered in her nervous system. We miss her dreadfully but know she had a good life with us, short though it was. She was much loved. Jody Help blind cats see a future! www.blindcatrescue.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(
GLOW for all of them, sherry, and for you and the rest of the volunteers. and for doc jen, of course. send her my love, please... MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
we have only 2 or 3 rescue groups in our area and they are entirely volunteer staffed. they are not too good at keeping boxes clean and really don't have time to socialize the kitties and dogs in their care. most of them come in after work or go in before work. pretty hectic schedule. now that my Mary is recovering from her stroke and her son Lane can take her to rehab, i am going to get with the closest group and volunteer to go in an clean and spend time with the kids in their care. having 6 of my own, with 2 felv pos, i iknow that it takes a lot of time to clean boxes, feed and spend some personal time with each of my babies so no one feels left out. i have been fortunate, none of my girls and 1 boy have any real health issues right now, just worms. been passing out the meds for that and some of them don't like taking meds. by the time i get Revolution for all 6, keep shots up to date, my vet loves me. i think i spend more time with him than i do iwth my own doctor. one last one to spay, she showed up when in heat and lost her tail to a raccoon i think because she goes bananas whenever she sees one and tries to hide between my chair and me. as soon as she is out of heat, she goes to see the doctor because she is driving me and all the girls crazy with her howling, etc. even if she was not felv pos, can't let her get pregnant, she is too small, less than 6 lbs. vet says not safe for her to have kittens. i can see the need for spaying as she just paces all night long, howling, crying. she never gets any sleep and has lost weight and hair. vet said that happens when in heat. to go thru that several times a year would be torture for me, know must be for her. it seems that so many kitties have gone since i last logged in. i know how each one of you must feel, it is like loosing one of my own children when one of my babies passes on. God be with you and give you another baby to take their place. dorlis Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: I had the opportunity to visit the CW Rustic Hollow Shelter in IA. Looking for a forever home for my cats when I die. They have a excellent set up with multiple houses/buildings/barns. Each building is heated and has air conditioning. Most windows have an attached screened-in enclosure so the kitties can enjoy the nice weather. There are several TVs in each building running kitties videos. Most of the buildings are old but it is obvious the kitties are well loved. In addition to a paid staff, volunteers come in every day to feed the kitties and scoop the litter boxes. The rooms had hand me down furniture for the kitties to lounge on. It isn't the Ritz but everything was clean. They have a board of directors and plans in place to keep the facility going if/when something happens to the original owners. Most importantly they will take FeLV+ kitties and other special needs kitties. I am having my will changed so my cats will go there when the time comes. I sponsor one of their kitties with neurological issues. Here is the link to their web site if anyone is interested. http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/ Sharyl --- On Mon, 6/1/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:45 PM of course if depends on quality of life, but you also have to have a realistic definition of what that means. i've found that many people tend to judge quality of life in human terms, and in light of what they would like to be able to provide to a housecat--and that is NOT necessarily what a sanctuary can and even should be able to provide. people often have unrealistic expectation of the places that take in the unwanted, and while there are DEFINITELY enough horror stories to go around, until more folks can step up and share the burden, they perhaps need to revise down their own personal standards. let's have a task force of folks who volunteer to go to sanctuaries nearby where they live, and report back to the rest of us. let's talk with people who've had to try to make decisions regarding how best to care for large number of critters, and see what it's like to make the choices needed. let's ask the cats -- you can tell happy cats when you see them, and plush surroundings are NOT the standard MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
It is a good place, Sharyl. One of my beloved kitties, Milo, lives there. They send you pictures and newsletters too. You made the right choice. Alice - Original Message - From: Sharylmailto:cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary I had the opportunity to visit the CW Rustic Hollow Shelter in IA. Looking for a forever home for my cats when I die. They have a excellent set up with multiple houses/buildings/barns. Each building is heated and has air conditioning. Most windows have an attached screened-in enclosure so the kitties can enjoy the nice weather. There are several TVs in each building running kitties videos. Most of the buildings are old but it is obvious the kitties are well loved. In addition to a paid staff, volunteers come in every day to feed the kitties and scoop the litter boxes. The rooms had hand me down furniture for the kitties to lounge on. It isn't the Ritz but everything was clean. They have a board of directors and plans in place to keep the facility going if/when something happens to the original owners. Most importantly they will take FeLV+ kitties and other special needs kitties. I am having my will changed so my cats will go there when the time comes. I sponsor one of their kitties with neurological issues. Here is the link to their web site if anyone is interested. http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/ Sharyl --- On Mon, 6/1/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.commailto:twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.commailto:twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:45 PM of course if depends on quality of life, but you also have to have a realistic definition of what that means. i've found that many people tend to judge quality of life in human terms, and in light of what they would like to be able to provide to a housecat--and that is NOT necessarily what a sanctuary can and even should be able to provide. people often have unrealistic expectation of the places that take in the unwanted, and while there are DEFINITELY enough horror stories to go around, until more folks can step up and share the burden, they perhaps need to revise down their own personal standards. let's have a task force of folks who volunteer to go to sanctuaries nearby where they live, and report back to the rest of us. let's talk with people who've had to try to make decisions regarding how best to care for large number of critters, and see what it's like to make the choices needed. let's ask the cats -- you can tell happy cats when you see them, and plush surroundings are NOT the standard MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.orghttp://www.purebredcats.org/) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(
Oh, I'm so sorry, Sherry. Poor, brave Tigerlily. At least she was surrounded by love, and the tender care of your wonderful Dr Jen. Thank YOU for being there for all the little sweeties, Sherry From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 8:08:12 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :( I am so sorry to say that Tigerlily lost her battle yesterday.She had quickly deteriorated overnight.She was one of those cats that won you over right away.She had a way of talking to you with littlr ppss.This has been a rough week for us volunteers,but even rougher for Dr. Jen. Yesterday I forwarded a few of your kind words to her and it really made her feel good.She said she really needed it. So thank you all for being there. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group?
I'm so sorry folks! I didn't realize that the OP had locked the post. All you have to do is join the catlovers group, just like any other community. Best, Jean *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^** Please note: For some bizarre reason, Yahoo has been depositing a lot of my legitimate email into my BULK folder, and putting spam in my inbox. I think they're tweaking their spam settings, but it's causing problems with mail delivery. If you do not hear back from me in a timely manner and you are expecting a response, please do not think I'm ignoring you. It's likely I have not received your message. If you have my telephone number, please call it. You can also email again -- that works sometimes. Otherwise, I check the bulk folder more frequently than I did, and I hopefully will find your message. --- On Mon, 6/1/09, souther...@aol.com souther...@aol.com wrote: From: souther...@aol.com souther...@aol.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone on LiveJournal's catlovers group? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 6:10 PM I had the same problem. I'm registered but I couldn't get on that site. Sidney ** An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377040x1201454360/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62; bcd=JuneExcfooterNO62) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(
I am so sorry, Sherry. I just wish all this dying would stop. I lost Patrick (non-FeLV) Friday night. He was a 14 year old shelter dump (we're moving and can't take our 14 year old cat) who I only had for a couple of months. He seemed to be adjusting really well at my house -- but he'd been a little off the day before, quiet and sitting in a corner. By Friday morning I knew he wasn't going to last. I buried him next to Charlotte in the fern garden. Losing 2 cats in less than a month is really hard. It just makes me appreciate the ones who are still with me even more. --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :( To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:08 PM I am so sorry to say that Tigerlily lost her battle yesterday.She had quickly deteriorated overnight.She was one of those cats that won you over right away.She had a way of talking to you with littlr ppss.This has been a rough week for us volunteers,but even rougher for Dr. Jen. Yesterday I forwarded a few of your kind words to her and it really made her feel good.She said she really needed it. So thank you all for being there. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(
Laura I am soo sorry for your loss of Patrick,I know what you mean about appreciating the ones that are still with us even more.That is the only thing that keeps me going back to the shelter.I love EVERY one of those wonderful furry little faces. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way --- On Mon, 6/1/09, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :( To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 10:46 PM I am so sorry, Sherry. I just wish all this dying would stop. I lost Patrick (non-FeLV) Friday night. He was a 14 year old shelter dump (we're moving and can't take our 14 year old cat) who I only had for a couple of months. He seemed to be adjusting really well at my house -- but he'd been a little off the day before, quiet and sitting in a corner. By Friday morning I knew he wasn't going to last. I buried him next to Charlotte in the fern garden. Losing 2 cats in less than a month is really hard. It just makes me appreciate the ones who are still with me even more. --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :( To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:08 PM I am so sorry to say that Tigerlily lost her battle yesterday.She had quickly deteriorated overnight.She was one of those cats that won you over right away.She had a way of talking to you with littlr ppss.This has been a rough week for us volunteers,but even rougher for Dr. Jen. Yesterday I forwarded a few of your kind words to her and it really made her feel good.She said she really needed it. So thank you all for being there. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I'm so sorry for all the sadness there. Special hugs all around, and the gentlest of Bridge vibes to Tigerlily. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 8:08 PM To: Felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] Tigerlily Please add to the CLS :( I am so sorry to say that Tigerlily lost her battle yesterday.She had quickly deteriorated overnight.She was one of those cats that won you over right away.She had a way of talking to you with littlr ppss.This has been a rough week for us volunteers,but even rougher for Dr. Jen. Yesterday I forwarded a few of your kind words to her and it really made her feel good.She said she really needed it. So thank you all for being there. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary
went to C W's site and i like what i see. the cats are not in a sterile shelter building, but in homes which they are used to. plan to visit since they are closest to me and have a personal look see. this does seem like the place for my babies since theya re used to running my house, sleeping wherever they want, eating when they want. only difference would be they could not roam the woods like they do now, but that would be a small price to pay for their safety and security. they do seem to have plenty of places to sit and lay, just can't catch the mice. course mice give them worms sometimes as i found out. dorlis Alice Hanson alicehans...@msn.com wrote: It is a good place, Sharyl. One of my beloved kitties, Milo, lives there. They send you pictures and newsletters too. You made the right choice. Alice - Original Message - From: Sharylmailto:cline...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary I had the opportunity to visit the CW Rustic Hollow Shelter in IA. Looking for a forever home for my cats when I die. They have a excellent set up with multiple houses/buildings/barns. Each building is heated and has air conditioning. Most windows have an attached screened-in enclosure so the kitties can enjoy the nice weather. There are several TVs in each building running kitties videos. Most of the buildings are old but it is obvious the kitties are well loved. In addition to a paid staff, volunteers come in every day to feed the kitties and scoop the litter boxes. The rooms had hand me down furniture for the kitties to lounge on. It isn't the Ritz but everything was clean. They have a board of directors and plans in place to keep the facility going if/when something happens to the original owners. Most importantly they will take FeLV+ kitties and other special needs kitties. I am having my will changed so my cats will go there when the time comes. I sponsor one of their kitties with neurological issues. Here is the link to their web site if anyone is interested. http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/ Sharyl --- On Mon, 6/1/09, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.commailto:twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.commailto:twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA Sanctuary To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:45 PM of course if depends on quality of life, but you also have to have a realistic definition of what that means. i've found that many people tend to judge quality of life in human terms, and in light of what they would like to be able to provide to a housecat--and that is NOT necessarily what a sanctuary can and even should be able to provide. people often have unrealistic expectation of the places that take in the unwanted, and while there are DEFINITELY enough horror stories to go around, until more folks can step up and share the burden, they perhaps need to revise down their own personal standards. let's have a task force of folks who volunteer to go to sanctuaries nearby where they live, and report back to the rest of us. let's talk with people who've had to try to make decisions regarding how best to care for large number of critters, and see what it's like to make the choices needed. let's ask the cats -- you can tell happy cats when you see them, and plush surroundings are NOT the standard MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.orghttp://www.purebredcats.org/) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now
Jody, I am so sorry Darcy has crossed the Rainbow Bridge. We do what we can. Unfortunately when their time comes there just isn't much that ca be done. You loved and cared for her. Thats all anyone could do. Sharyl --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jody Butler jbutler5...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Jody Butler jbutler5...@bellsouth.net Subject: [Felvtalk] Darcy Is An Angel Now To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 3:32 PM Thank you all for the words of support. Sweet Darcy went downhill so fast, becoming unable to walk. I drove to an emergency clinic where they did their best for her through the weekend. Yesterday we helped her to the Bridge, knowing there was just no more anyone could do. Her FeLv wouldn't let her fight off the ravages of whatever attacked her - probably a cancer that centered in her nervous system. We miss her dreadfully but know she had a good life with us, short though it was. She was much loved. Jody Help blind cats see a future! www.blindcatrescue.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] OT: This is beautiful...
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