Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats........
This is what I'd really love to do. My house is all set up for the cats. It has three outdoor enclosures, with cat flaps so they can go out or in, and they have 4 large kitty condos, plus window perches, so they're totally spoiled. I do have one lady in mind who could move in, but she has very little income so my son would have to pay the utilities, assessments, taxes etc. out of the money I leave. I'm sure he'd do this as he adores cats and he'd take mine if he didn't already have a bunch of his own. Lorrie On 02-26, Natalie wrote: When my mother died, she had 17 rescued cats. Since I was up to here with our rescues, I found someone to live in her house, free of charge, in exchange for caring for the cats. Since 2001, there's one cat left. I could bring him to CT, but at his age, he may as well live out whatever time he has in his own surroundings. If someone cares, they will find a way. Maybe you could try something similar? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats........
I'm so glad my family knows how important my cats and other pets are to me! Most my family members and friends are huge animal lovers and I have no doubt that they will take great care of mine, if something would happen to me and my husband. 2011/2/26 dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com I don't know how old the cats are but (i'm sorry) the amounts I am seeing (500/1000) doesn't seem like it would be enough to take care of the cats for long other than maybe food needs. I definitely could be wrong. And maybe that's all it's intended for. Natalie that is a fantastic idea! I wanted to share some potential solutions just to put it out there? Love that one though. (note: Must.buy.house. :P) Has anyone thought of raising funds via chipin, maybe through a local 501c3 so their donators will get tax deductions, or perhaps kickstarter, or pepsi refresh? These are very popular fund raising sites nowadays and you can choose different amounts...you just have to hit the minimum to get the money I think but people can always contribute more than requested, especially if you state that in the description of why you are looking for funds. And just fyi - there are actually cat retirement homes out there - did anyone know that? Isn't that a smart idea? Wanted to put that out there too, although they make you pay upfront for the lifetime care of the cats. I'm sure they would give you a figure on the costs if you ask, and maybe it's just a good idea to have that number for a goal. Also, if there are no no-kill shelters near you perhaps you could find some that are sort of nearby and see if local rescue groups would be willing to transport them to that shelter, the shelter take them, and get that contact info out to family and in the will so there is a plan in place and it will get done. Also, they may have ideas on wills and after-care for animals. I'm sure they deal with it all the time. It's smart to think ahead. Good to see people doing so. I'm fairly young and I think all my kitties will be gone by I'm 60 (I have 7.) which was just a lucky thing, not a well-thought out thing, so hopefully I won't have to deal with this myself. If I want animals after that I decided I'm only going to foster them because of exactly this situation. Mostly because I have no money to even put away what you guys have! :) On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: Hi Kat, This is exactly what I have done so far. In my will I have left $1,000 for each of my 14 cats. It is the best I can think of to assure they are cared for. However, I have no way of knowing some unscrupulous person won't take the money and dump the cat!! It's the big question of WHO will take each cat, and how can I be certain they will be taken care of. We have no local no-kill shelter, and the humane society in our small town is worthless. They are mainly concerned with dogs. My grown kids all adore cats, but they have a bunch of their own, so I know they couldn't take all 14 of mome. It is such a big problem, but I must get it resolved as time is running out. I have enough money from a small inheritance to insure the care and safety of my cats, but overseeing this is the huge problem. Lorrie in WV On 02-25, katskat1 wrote: I too had this concern as I run a small rescue as well as having several cats and dogs of my own. In my 60's, live along female. I finally talked to a lawyer while arranging my will and found the thing that makes me feel best. I allocated a certain lump sum per animal ($500/cat, $1000/dog as I couldn't afford to set up a trust altho am still considering that) in my will for any and all animals alive at the time of my death. This money goes to the local no kill shelter or humane society to be used specifically for each animal with the sole purpose of allowing it to live its' full, natural life in a healthy and natural manner, adopted or fostered if possible and NOT to be euthanized unless two vets concur it is a medical neccessity. Best I could do but it will hopefully serve the purpose. Anybody have any ideas on how I can make it more air tight? I don't know if I would have much more money than that as I don't own much but I have asked my one sister to allow it from life insurance if necessary and she has agreed. Good luck. and NEVER allow your animals to go anywhere you haven't visited and seen several times, at several times of day, unnanounced if possible. kat ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Thank Goodness For This Group!
I was thinking this morning about this group-All of us trying to save or prolong our kitty's lives, or to keep them comfortable for as long as possible. Trying different treatments or none-we are all the same. Getting comfort or condolences...it's a hard journey. I can say that I have tried different things with my 6-Spent a huge fortune-so far lost 5 in 2 yrs and now having to watch Rosie in a downward spiral. Nothing has worked to save mine, maybe prolonged their lives by what...minutes, days, months-I don't know. Two and a half years ago, I had never heard of this damn disease-maybe because I hadn't had a cat in over a decade, just Aussies and horses. God bless the really special people who take in positive kitties knowing there is heartache up the road, but have saved them from being euthanized because of a positive test-they're not all accurate. I am rambling, I am sad-but so grateful for all the shoulders to cry on. Every time I log on, more babies have gone to the bridge, finally free to play together and wait for us. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank Goodness For This Group!
Alice, I totally agree! We all share heartache, tears, and on rare occasion, some joy. We have many, many, thousands of $$. But I would trade for the years we have had with our Gray Kitty! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I was thinking this morning about this group-All of us trying to save or prolong our kitty's lives, or to keep them comfortable for as long as possible. Trying different treatments or none-we are all the same. Getting comfort or condolences...it's a hard journey. I can say that I have tried different things with my 6-Spent a huge fortune-so far lost 5 in 2 yrs and now having to watch Rosie in a downward spiral. Nothing has worked to save mine, maybe prolonged their lives by what...minutes, days, months-I don't know. Two and a half years ago, I had never heard of this damn disease-maybe because I hadn't had a cat in over a decade, just Aussies and horses. God bless the really special people who take in positive kitties knowing there is heartache up the road, but have saved them from being euthanized because of a positive test-they're not all accurate. I am rambling, I am sad-but so grateful for all the shoulders to cry on. Every time I log on, more babies have gone to the bridge, finally free to play together and wait for us. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses
Hey guys, I am going to undertake a project in the next month or so, and build an outdoor cat house with an attached cat enclosure. I priced cat enclosures (Suncatcher Enclosures...$2000!!!) and most that I've found online are too expensive. I can build something, but would really like everyone's input on building this type of fenced structure or on building a cat house. I am looking at constructing a wood shed, with windows, on a concrete (sealed) foundation. I'm not afraid of hard work, but not sure where to start. Any thoughts? Resources I can look at that are affordable? Thank you! Wendy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses
Is this for cats to actually live in or to be able to go outside from a house? We have built our own and also used kits from CA. We have 4 outdoor enclosures attached to our house, cat doors, for cats to use as they like. We shut down in very cold weather because the cat doors aren't that good. Will be back in CT tomorrow - shutting down computer until then. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses Hey guys, I am going to undertake a project in the next month or so, and build an outdoor cat house with an attached cat enclosure. I priced cat enclosures (Suncatcher Enclosures...$2000!!!) and most that I've found online are too expensive. I can build something, but would really like everyone's input on building this type of fenced structure or on building a cat house. I am looking at constructing a wood shed, with windows, on a concrete (sealed) foundation. I'm not afraid of hard work, but not sure where to start. Any thoughts? Resources I can look at that are affordable? Thank you! Wendy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank Goodness For This Group!
Morning everyone, I totally agree with what you have posted. This indeed is a special group of people. I've been on this group since 2000 or maybe earlier can't remember. There has always been support whether it was about our felv kitties or off the topic. I have had not had any positive kitties in a few years. The last of my old herd of kitties passed away from old age of 22 years back in March of last year. She lived with my Taz before he died. When I mean the herd they all lived with Taz and none ever contracted felv. (8 kitties) They all slept, played, ate out of the same dishes, and bathe each other. I have to say I've known about FELV since the late 60's. This was because my parents were reputable breeders and showed their kitties. I lost my very first felv kitty in 1974 to FELV. He was only 3 years old. He too was a Siamese/Ragdoll. I remember all too well of what he had gone through. My parents went to the dog pound (this was they were called back then) and seen a litter of mixedSiamese kittens that were only about 5 weeks old. They end up bringing them all home. Even though they went looking for a dog to add to the family. When the kittenswere old enough my parents had them tested and vaccinated but unfortunately the one I love had FELV the others remained negative all their lives. Yes, my parents kept these kittens all the way up to their passing.They lived for many years. Back then there wasn't any type of protocol. You just did the best you could do for felv kitties by giving them the best food and love. There was not the assortment of food back then like it is now. The Vets back then were really naive and many put down kitties that had felv. Because people like us that are persisted in finding more ways to help our kitties is the reason why there is more information than ever. I'm just like many of you I hate this damn disease as well. It is so unfair. :( I do hope and pray the cure will be found soon. You are all in my thoughts and prayers each day! I'm so sorry for those of you with your recentlosses. It's not easy to lose our precious furkids but in time it becomes a memory. As we cherish the time they had with us and try to remember the good. Ido hope when the cure is found I'm still alive so I can celebrate and say they didn't die in vain. I've always been told there is a purpose for everything even though we may not understand it. Whether it may be good, bad, like or disike it. Bless you all! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank Goodness For This Group!From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.netDate: Sun, February 27, 2011 7:29 amTo: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgI was thinking this morning about this group-All of us trying to save or prolong our kitty's lives, or to keep them comfortable for as long as possible. Trying different treatments or none-we are all the same. Getting comfort or condolences...it's a hard journey. I can say that I have tried different things with my 6-Spent a huge fortune-so far lost 5 in 2 yrs and now having to watch Rosie in a downward spiral. Nothing has worked to save mine, maybe prolonged their lives by what...minutes, days, months-I don't know. Two and a half years ago, I had never heard of this damn disease-maybe because I hadn't had a cat in over a decade, just Aussies and horses. God bless the really special people who take in positive kitties knowing there is heartache up the road, but have saved them from being euthanized because of a positive test-they're not all accurate. I am rambling, I am sad-but so grateful for all the shoulders to cry on. Every time I log on, more babies have gone to the bridge, finally free to play together and wait for us. Alice___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses
It's for cats to actually live in, and have inside/outside access (with heating and cooling), much like they do at Best Friends. Can you recommend the kit companies you used? Thanks Natalie! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 10:32:12 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses Is this for cats to actually live in or to be able to go outside from a house? We have built our own and also used kits from CA. We have 4 outdoor enclosures attached to our house, cat doors, for cats to use as they like. We shut down in very cold weather because the cat doors aren't that good. Will be back in CT tomorrow - shutting down computer until then. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses Hey guys, I am going to undertake a project in the next month or so, and build an outdoor cat house with an attached cat enclosure. I priced cat enclosures (Suncatcher Enclosures...$2000!!!) and most that I've found online are too expensive. I can build something, but would really like everyone's input on building this type of fenced structure or on building a cat house. I am looking at constructing a wood shed, with windows, on a concrete (sealed) foundation. I'm not afraid of hard work, but not sure where to start. Any thoughts? Resources I can look at that are affordable? Thank you! Wendy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank Goodness For This Group!
Beautifully said, Alice. And I'm sorry for your pain. But clearly your love for your animals shows through. I hope the joy outweighs the suffering. This is a great group of people, and I am constantly amazed at the love, compassion and intelligence shared here. Also the love. It inspires me. Keep on! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 7:29 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Thank Goodness For This Group! I was thinking this morning about this group-All of us trying to save or prolong our kitty's lives, or to keep them comfortable for as long as possible. Trying different treatments or none-we are all the same. Getting comfort or condolences...it's a hard journey. I can say that I have tried different things with my 6-Spent a huge fortune-so far lost 5 in 2 yrs and now having to watch Rosie in a downward spiral. Nothing has worked to save mine, maybe prolonged their lives by what...minutes, days, months-I don't know. Two and a half years ago, I had never heard of this damn disease-maybe because I hadn't had a cat in over a decade, just Aussies and horses. God bless the really special people who take in positive kitties knowing there is heartache up the road, but have saved them from being euthanized because of a positive test-they're not all accurate. I am rambling, I am sad-but so grateful for all the shoulders to cry on. Every time I log on, more babies have gone to the bridge, finally free to play together and wait for us. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses
http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER- http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER The above pretty much compliles all of the affordable ways to make or buy cat shelters. I've heard feral villa is very good. And btw - if you are making your own, your SPCA should have straw for free and your home depot/ lowes will probably give you hard foam insulation for free if it's damanged and most of the stock people will find you one. They also may sponsor it - you have to write a proposal to the manager and give them a week or two to respond. Ask at the desk. Also, don't get a clear bin, they are hard to cut, they crack - others are easier. Find one that's easy to cut. It may take a little experimenting. :) Hope that helps! Dana http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:11 PM, wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com wrote: It's for cats to actually live in, and have inside/outside access (with heating and cooling), much like they do at Best Friends. Can you recommend the kit companies you used? Thanks Natalie! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 10:32:12 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses Is this for cats to actually live in or to be able to go outside from a house? We have built our own and also used kits from CA. We have 4 outdoor enclosures attached to our house, cat doors, for cats to use as they like. We shut down in very cold weather because the cat doors aren't that good. Will be back in CT tomorrow - shutting down computer until then. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses Hey guys, I am going to undertake a project in the next month or so, and build an outdoor cat house with an attached cat enclosure. I priced cat enclosures (Suncatcher Enclosures...$2000!!!) and most that I've found online are too expensive. I can build something, but would really like everyone's input on building this type of fenced structure or on building a cat house. I am looking at constructing a wood shed, with windows, on a concrete (sealed) foundation. I'm not afraid of hard work, but not sure where to start. Any thoughts? Resources I can look at that are affordable? Thank you! Wendy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses -answer 2 :o)
Sorry! Didn't read that post properly. For full on cat enclosures, these sites may work better for companies and ideas: http://catioshowcase.com/ http://catnet.stanford.edu/articles/enclosures.html http://catnet.stanford.edu/articles/enclosures.html http://www.catsofaustralia.com/cat-enclosures.htm http://www.catiodesigns.com/ http://habitathaven.com/cat-enclosures.html http://www.habitatforcats.com/ http://www.kittykouch.com/articles/cathabitat.htm http://www.wvcats.com/enclosures.htm http://www.xmission.com/~emailbox/catrun.htm http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/138057-outdoor-cat-habitat-pics.html http://catnet.stanford.edu/articles/enclosures.html On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:57 PM, dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER- http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER The above pretty much compliles all of the affordable ways to make or buy cat shelters. I've heard feral villa is very good. And btw - if you are making your own, your SPCA should have straw for free and your home depot/ lowes will probably give you hard foam insulation for free if it's damanged and most of the stock people will find you one. They also may sponsor it - you have to write a proposal to the manager and give them a week or two to respond. Ask at the desk. Also, don't get a clear bin, they are hard to cut, they crack - others are easier. Find one that's easy to cut. It may take a little experimenting. :) Hope that helps! Dana http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/HOW_TO_FERAL_CAT_WINTER_SHELTER On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:11 PM, wendy wendy2...@yahoo.com wrote: It's for cats to actually live in, and have inside/outside access (with heating and cooling), much like they do at Best Friends. Can you recommend the kit companies you used? Thanks Natalie! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 10:32:12 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses Is this for cats to actually live in or to be able to go outside from a house? We have built our own and also used kits from CA. We have 4 outdoor enclosures attached to our house, cat doors, for cats to use as they like. We shut down in very cold weather because the cat doors aren't that good. Will be back in CT tomorrow - shutting down computer until then. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice Needed on Outside Cat Houses Hey guys, I am going to undertake a project in the next month or so, and build an outdoor cat house with an attached cat enclosure. I priced cat enclosures (Suncatcher Enclosures...$2000!!!) and most that I've found online are too expensive. I can build something, but would really like everyone's input on building this type of fenced structure or on building a cat house. I am looking at constructing a wood shed, with windows, on a concrete (sealed) foundation. I'm not afraid of hard work, but not sure where to start. Any thoughts? Resources I can look at that are affordable? Thank you! Wendy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
