Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives. ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to reconcile with the ELISA. On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in a month do the IFA test on him. I had an adult cat who tested strong positive. I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA test done and it was also negative. Moses has been living with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten. He tested FelV pos. at 8 weeks old and I just had him tested again. This time the results were a light pos. They told me it just barely turned positive on the test. Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much. He is such an affectionate boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him. So many FelV positive cats don't make it past aa year or so. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar) Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please remove me from your mailing list - thank you
You do that yourself by clicking on the bottom link of each Felvtalk message and filling out the resulting form. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Glenda Kelly kellyglend...@yahoo.comwrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar) Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
An negative IFA does NOT negate a positive Elisa. The IFA simply means it is in the bone marrow. Once the IFA is positive the cat will not throw off the virus. I would keep test him again in a few months on the Elisa. If it is still positive I would test him on the IFA. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives. ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to reconcile with the ELISA. On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in a month do the IFA test on him. I had an adult cat who tested strong positive. I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA test done and it was also negative. Moses has been living with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten. He tested FelV pos. at 8 weeks old and I just had him tested again. This time the results were a light pos. They told me it just barely turned positive on the test. Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much. He is such an affectionate boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him. So many FelV positive cats don't make it past aa year or so. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar) Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Aslans Cats Hurricane
I don't know about this place, but it seems reputable. Make your own judgements, but it seems they were devastated by the hurricane. http://aslanscats.org/cms/ Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
Lorrie, I had a “light” positive on my kitten as well. He did not clear the virus, but please don’t lose hope. There can still be a better outcome. Beth is correct! Also, a positive ELISA test must be done no earlier than 90 days for accuracy after the first test. If it’s still positive, do an IFA. If the IFA is positive, than the virus is in the bone marrow and the kitty can’t clear the virus. Good luck and keep us posted. Hugs to you and your kitten! Lynda From: Beth Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat An negative IFA does NOT negate a positive Elisa. The IFA simply means it is in the bone marrow. Once the IFA is positive the cat will not throw off the virus. I would keep test him again in a few months on the Elisa. If it is still positive I would test him on the IFA. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives.ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to reconcile with the ELISA. On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in a month do the IFA test on him. I had an adult cat who tested strong positive. I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA test done and it was also negative. Moses has been living with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten. He tested FelV pos. at 8 weeks old and I just had him tested again. This time the results were a light pos. They told me it just barely turned positive on the test. Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much. He is such an affectionate boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him. So many FelV positive cats don't make it past aa year or so. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar) Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
Yes, even a positive cat can have a good life. I have 4 positives right not (in addition to my 2 negatives). They are happy healthy. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat Lorrie, I had a “light” positive on my kitten as well. He did not clear the virus, but please don’t lose hope. There can still be a better outcome. Beth is correct! Also, a positive ELISA test must be done no earlier than 90 days for accuracy after the first test. If it’s still positive, do an IFA. If the IFA is positive, than the virus is in the bone marrow and the kitty can’t clear the virus. Good luck and keep us posted. Hugs to you and your kitten! Lynda From: Beth Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat An negative IFA does NOT negate a positive Elisa. The IFA simply means it is in the bone marrow. Once the IFA is positive the cat will not throw off the virus. I would keep test him again in a few months on the Elisa. If it is still positive I would test him on the IFA. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives. ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to reconcile with the ELISA. On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in a month do the IFA test on him. I had an adult cat who tested strong positive. I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA test done and it was also negative. Moses has been living with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten. He tested FelV pos. at 8 weeks old and I just had him tested again. This time the results were a light pos. They told me it just barely turned positive on the test. Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much. He is such an affectionate boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him. So many FelV positive cats don't make it past aa year or so. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar) Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
Hey! Just like my front door sign says: If you get upset about cat and dog hair on my furniture please go back home and 'visit' me by phone. All my furniture has pet hair on it. That's why it's called FUR-niture! Kat Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, when I find that my cats don't match the furniture, I throw out the furniture. That's it! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2012 4:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture I have quarry tile floor except in bedrooms, they are wood. Furniture is covered in sheets of various colors which can be taken off when company comes. The color scheme in living room varies from sheet washing day to sheet washing day. I figure that if people know me, they understand. Others don't have to come to my house if it upsets them. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I've heard of this... People who want to get rid of a cat because the fur doesn't match the furniture.. Geez. I have my furniture covered in multicolored velour upholstery, and my rugs, are all oriental design. The design really hides the fur, and the soft velvet upholstery is not what cats like to claw. It works, and I have a bunch of cats of all sizes, shapes and colors including three long haired cats who really leave a lot of fur around! There are ways to live with multiple cats and still have a nice home, but too many people use fur as an excuse to dump their pets. Lorrie On 11-02, Lee Evans wrote: This actually happened to me when I was answering our hotline for VOICE For Animals. A woman called asking if we could take an orange cat. I asked her why. What she said was that she had purchased a white sofa and the cat was getting orange fur all over it. She said she would be willing to take a white cat in exchange. She had had the orange cat for 2 years, had come into some money recently and was buying new living room furniture. I finally talked her out of dumping her cat on us by telling her about the sticky roller product for removing lint and hair from things. I also told her that she should purchase a multicolored sofa cover to keep the sofa covered for general use and whisk off the cover when company arrives. She was delighted with the ideas. I should write a book on how to color coordinate your rooms with your cats and dogs and how to color coordinate your daily work outfits with a shedding pet. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
So which is the snap test? Or is it something else?? Kat Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives. ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to reconcile with the ELISA. On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in a month do the IFA test on him. I had an adult cat who tested strong positive. I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA test done and it was also negative. Moses has been living with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten. He tested FelV pos. at 8 weeks old and I just had him tested again. This time the results were a light pos. They told me it just barely turned positive on the test. Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much. He is such an affectionate boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him. So many FelV positive cats don't make it past aa year or so. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar) Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab costs around $100 depending on your area tests to see if the virus is in the bone marrow, meaning the cat will not throw off the virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com To: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat So which is the snap test? Or is it something else?? Kat Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives. ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to reconcile with the ELISA. On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in a month do the IFA test on him. I had an adult cat who tested strong positive. I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA test done and it was also negative. Moses has been living with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten. He tested FelV pos. at 8 weeks old and I just had him tested again. This time the results were a light pos. They told me it just barely turned positive on the test. Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much. He is such an affectionate boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him. So many FelV positive cats don't make it past aa year or so. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar) Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
OK so the ELISA/SNAP is the one blood is drawn for and the IFA is the saliva test right? Thanks. That helps a lot! Kat Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab costs around $100 depending on your area tests to see if the virus is in the bone marrow, meaning the cat will not throw off the virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com *To:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *Cc:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat So which is the snap test? Or is it something else?? Kat Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives. ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to reconcile with the ELISA. On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in a month do the IFA test on him. I had an adult cat who tested strong positive. I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA test done and it was also negative. Moses has been living with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten. He tested FelV pos. at 8 weeks old and I just had him tested again. This time the results were a light pos. They told me it just barely turned positive on the test. Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much. He is such an affectionate boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him. So many FelV positive cats don't make it past aa year or so. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar) Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat
Oops wait a minute I re read your email. It is the other way around isn't it. SNAP/ELISA is the saliiva test and the IFA is the blood test for bone marrow? Kt Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com wrote: OK so the ELISA/SNAP is the one blood is drawn for and the IFA is the saliva test right? Thanks. That helps a lot! Kat Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: The snap test is an ELISA test. The IFA is sent out to a lab costs around $100 depending on your area tests to see if the virus is in the bone marrow, meaning the cat will not throw off the virus. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com *To:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *Cc:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 12:22 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat So which is the snap test? Or is it something else?? Kat Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: Don't just get the IFA, as they are skewed towards false negatives. ELISAs are skewed towards false positives, so if you do the IFA, it would be to reconcile with the ELISA. On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't much trust tests anyway but if you want to get a more accurate test, in a month do the IFA test on him. I had an adult cat who tested strong positive. I kept him for 3 months in a separate room, tested again and it was negative but because he would be mixed in with my many rescues, I had the IFA test done and it was also negative. Moses has been living with 20 of my rescues for the past 6 years now. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:49 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Leukemia Positive Cat I have a 6 1/2 month old rescued kitten. He tested FelV pos. at 8 weeks old and I just had him tested again. This time the results were a light pos. They told me it just barely turned positive on the test. Would this indicate he is in the process of throwing off the virus? I LOVE this kitten so much. He is such an affectionate boy, and I'm praying I don't lose him. So many FelV positive cats don't make it past aa year or so. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal! If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their life. Contact your local pound for information. http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to free up cage space. Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by implementing the No Kill Equation: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: http://www.no-killnews.com/ (see the right sidebar) Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/ More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially http://vimeo.com/48445902 Local feral cat crisis? See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
Couldn't agree with you more. I tell people that my primary form of interior decoration is organic. On 11/26/2012 11:19 AM, Kathryn Green wrote: Hey! Just like my front door sign says: If you get upset about cat and dog hair on my furniture please go back home and 'visit' me by phone. All my furniture has pet hair on it. That's why it's called FUR-niture! Kat Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com mailto:moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, when I find that my cats don't match the furniture, I throw out the furniture. That's it! Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! *From:* dlg...@windstream.net mailto:dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net mailto:dlg...@windstream.net *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2012 4:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture I have quarry tile floor except in bedrooms, they are wood. Furniture is covered in sheets of various colors which can be taken off when company comes. The color scheme in living room varies from sheet washing day to sheet washing day. I figure that if people know me, they understand. Others don't have to come to my house if it upsets them. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com mailto:felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I've heard of this... People who want to get rid of a cat because the fur doesn't match the furniture.. Geez. I have my furniture covered in multicolored velour upholstery, and my rugs, are all oriental design. The design really hides the fur, and the soft velvet upholstery is not what cats like to claw. It works, and I have a bunch of cats of all sizes, shapes and colors including three long haired cats who really leave a lot of fur around! There are ways to live with multiple cats and still have a nice home, but too many people use fur as an excuse to dump their pets. Lorrie On 11-02, Lee Evans wrote: This actually happened to me when I was answering our hotline for VOICE For Animals. A woman called asking if we could take an orange cat. I asked her why. What she said was that she had purchased a white sofa and the cat was getting orange fur all over it. She said she would be willing to take a white cat in exchange. She had had the orange cat for 2 years, had come into some money recently and was buying new living room furniture. I finally talked her out of dumping her cat on us by telling her about the sticky roller product for removing lint and hair from things. I also told her that she should purchase a multicolored sofa cover to keep the sofa covered for general use and whisk off the cover when company arrives. She was delighted with the ideas. I should write a book on how to color coordinate your rooms with your cats and dogs and how to color coordinate your daily work outfits with a shedding pet. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work because they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched. As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot. Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp over that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a multitude of cats. Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and can't accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that read: For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I need to buy it. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats. If you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and file a complaint. Furrever in love with cats. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work because they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched. As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot. Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp over that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a multitude of cats. Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and can't accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that read: For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I need to buy it. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
We bought beautiful new living room furniture in January and it was promptly covered in plastic and ugly homemade (I winged it and made them out of duck cloth) slip covers that can be washed. Once all the pisser have passed on, we can uncover the furniture, but not until that happens ;) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:43:24 -0800 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats. If you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and file a complaint. Furrever in love with cats. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work because they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched. As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot. Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp over that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a multitude of cats. Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and can't accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that read: For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I need to buy it. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
I lucked out with the most recent second hand sofa that I bought off of craigslist. Not only are the arms and legs carved wood and thus harder to destroy by clawing, all the seat and back cushions zip off for laundering. And the upholstery fabric is really thic, apparently impervious to urine. I've already gotten two years out of this couch and matching chair and I may have it for a couple more. From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture We bought beautiful new living room furniture in January and it was promptly covered in plastic and ugly homemade (I winged it and made them out of duck cloth) slip covers that can be washed. Once all the pisser have passed on, we can uncover the furniture, but not until that happens ;) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:43:24 -0800 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats. If you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and file a complaint. Furrever in love with cats. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work because they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched. As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot. Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp over that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a multitude of cats. Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and can't accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that read: For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I need to buy it. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
Don't buy new. I never buy new upholstered anything. I buy used living room furniture off craigslist, always cheap but attractive. Until my current living room set ($125 for couch and matching chair) with the zip-off washable cushion covers I simply changed the couch every year. (Check the free section on craigslist as well as the furniture section. Got a great free couch a couple of years ago.) From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture Yeah, I understand. I dearly love the cats (all five who live indoors with me) and really enjoy their company (sounds strange to some, but you all probably understand). I like to look at the couch and love seat and see lovely sleeping felines…makes me feel fortunate! However…being newly single it is something (ahem) to explain to possible suitors. The only part I *don’t* like is that the furniture is off-white and has had puke, pee and ‘whatever’ tossed on it. That and the fur. But as I tell people, one day I’ll write a memoir titled, “Covered in Cat Hair: A Story of Love.” After that hits the best seller list I’ll buy new furniture! Bonnie From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture We bought beautiful new living room furniture in January and it was promptly covered in plastic and ugly homemade (I winged it and made them out of duck cloth) slip covers that can be washed. Once all the pisser have passed on, we can uncover the furniture, but not until that happens ;) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:43:24 -0800 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats. If you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and file a complaint. Furrever in love with cats. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From:LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work because they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched. As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot. Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp over that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a multitude of cats. Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and can't accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that read: For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I need to buy it. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
Furniture is around #50 down on my priority list of things I need. I live in South Texas. We have a 365 day flea season and now that I moved out to a rural area in order to be able to keep my rescued cats without having to deal with stupid Animal Control Officers who never even read their own ordinances, I also have scorpions, snakes and assorted weird looking crawlies. I tend to stay away from anything upholstered in favor of washable pillows, washable patio cushions, large towels from Goodwill and snuggy cat beds and blankets. Anything that can't be hosed down or tossed into the washing machine has no place in a house that 38 cats call home. As long as I can park my rump on something that is clean, won't have any hidden, stinging surprises and is fairly comfortable, I don't care what it looks like. Fortunately, almost all of my friends are rescuers so everyone thinks I'm normal. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too!___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
Sounds perfect to me! Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Furniture is around #50 down on my priority list of things I need. I live in South Texas. We have a 365 day flea season and now that I moved out to a rural area in order to be able to keep my rescued cats without having to deal with stupid Animal Control Officers who never even read their own ordinances, I also have scorpions, snakes and assorted weird looking crawlies. I tend to stay away from anything upholstered in favor of washable pillows, washable patio cushions, large towels from Goodwill and snuggy cat beds and blankets. Anything that can't be hosed down or tossed into the washing machine has no place in a house that 38 cats call home. As long as I can park my rump on something that is clean, won't have any hidden, stinging surprises and is fairly comfortable, I don't care what it looks like. Fortunately, almost all of my friends are rescuers so everyone thinks I'm normal. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture
BRAGGER! Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote: I lucked out with the most recent second hand sofa that I bought off of craigslist. Not only are the arms and legs carved wood and thus harder to destroy by clawing, all the seat and back cushions zip off for laundering. And the upholstery fabric is really thic, apparently impervious to urine. I've already gotten two years out of this couch and matching chair and I may have it for a couple more. *From:* Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 12:49 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture We bought beautiful new living room furniture in January and it was promptly covered in plastic and ugly homemade (I winged it and made them out of duck cloth) slip covers that can be washed. Once all the pisser have passed on, we can uncover the furniture, but not until that happens ;) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:43:24 -0800 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture Invaders from the XION Universe came down and changed my kids into cats. If you don't like my kids looking this way, go to the XION Universe and file a complaint. Furrever in love with cats. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! *From:* LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2012 2:31 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Cat proof furniture Someone actually surrendered a dog to the shelter where I used to work because they got new furniture, and the dog no longer matched. As for myself - I've given up. The sofa is covered with plaid furniture protectors with a waterproof vinyl backing that I got from Bass Pro Shops. I also use inexpensive plastic-backed canvas dropcloths from Home Depot. Eventually the plastic gets shredded, but they're easy to wash and cheap to replace. My mattress is covered with a mattress protector and a blue tarp over that. Sheets are changed daily, since I sleep with two dogs and a multitude of cats. Most of my friends have multiple cats and dogs, but those who don't and can't accept my pets are free not to visit. I saw a doormat somewhere that read: For visitors who don't like my pets: They live here. You don't. I need to buy it. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
