Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers
Egads Lee, I'm sure you were not eager to visit granny!! On 09-14, Lee Evans wrote: Not kidding about the chicken feather soup. She also specialized in coffee boiled with milk and coffee grounds. Then after a while, it would form a leather skin on top and we had to cut through to the coffee. Yech! Burned scrambled eggs, almost raw liver, black toast. I would say that my grandmother was a very intelligent woman but not a gourmet cook. My uncles cat loved the liver though. __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Healing thoughts for Bubba
He was not good last night when I got home. He barely lifted his head. I wasn't sure he would still be alive this morning. He seems perkier this morning. I'm home all day so we will see how it goes. dlg...@windstream.net wrote: How is Bubba doing now? JC microscopicwin...@yahoo.com wrote: He's in my thoughts and prayers, as are you.. --- On Wed, 6/12/13, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Healing thoughts for Bubba To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 12, 2013, 12:59 PM Poor Bubba! I'm sorry he's having such a rough time, and a rude bite on the tail to top it off. Hopefully he can clear the Hemobart and move on. I'll add him to the purrayers list. Best wishes to you and Bubba, Lance On Jun 12, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey guys need some positive energy for one of my FeLV fosters - Bubba. He had been battling a URI. Tried a couple different antibiotics, and finally, after a week the URI cleared he started eating on his own last Sunday. Well as soon as I took him off the Doxy he started going down again. We went to the shelter this afternoon thankfully they had a wonderful vet volunteering who has experience in FeLV kitties. We're wondering now if he has Hemobart since he starting going down after withdrawing the Doxy. His gums were pink, though. I've had a constant battle with fleas. Advantage was no longer working so I switched Frontline, but that doesn't seem to be working well either. He got fluids, more Doxy, Prenisone, Cyproheptadine, Capstar AD. On top of that it looks like he has a cat bite o his tail. Poor baby. Going to go home tonight spend some one-on-one time with him. Just being able to talk to you guys about these babies really helps. At least I feel like someone understands how helpless I feel sometimes. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bad News
So sorry, Amanda. Thank you for taking such good care of Polli. You both are in my thoughts. Beth Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Amanda, so sorry to hear about Polli. I'll say a prayer for her, that her journey and transition are easy. And for you, that the pain of loss heals quickly. Bonnie From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amanda K. Payne Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 5:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Bad News Hi everyone, We took Polli in to a new vet today to get something new to treat her URI. She had a bad reaction to Clavamox and we were looking for a new vet who would be more aggressive and open minded with her treatments. We found a great vet, one I used to go to when I lived on the other side of town. He was optimistic about her treatment and was confident we could get her over this URI. However, he noticed that her belly is distended. He did a tap and diagnosed her with FIP (another disease I have already dealt with before). Her skin and gums are also very jaundiced. He says it appears her body is shutting down. We made an appointment to euthanize her at our home tomorrow afternoon. She's been on a decline for the past two weeks and feel it's time to help her go. Please keep us in your thoughts. Best, -Amanda -- There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge Bertrand Russell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charle
FIP is common in FeLV cats Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone,We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well. I am hoping that the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it is a tumor. If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't wantto loose one of our babies. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ember-blood work concerns
Hi Lance, I just wanted to mention that my cat Jack, who does not have FeLV but does have heart disease and FLUTD, had high triglycerides a few years ago. That was when I was feeding grain free food with a high fat content. The vet wanted to do an abdominal ultrasound to check pancreas, etc., but I was worried about the stress if he had to be on his back, etc, with his heart disease, so even though I usually do whatever the vet suggests, I decided to just wait and recheck blood work a month or so later, and they said I could find a lower fat diet for him. Anyway, after switching to a very low fat grain free canned food, Weruva Paw-lickin Chicken, his triglycerides went back to the normal range. I think they were up in the 600's? Can't recall for sure and don't have the paperwork in front of me, and then went back to somewhere in the mid normal range. So don't really know what caused his elevated triglycerides, but guessing it might have been diet related, at least for him, since they responded to the diet change, unless was just coincidence. Shelley On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Lance wrote: It's been a little while since I've posted about my 11 yro FeLV+ girl, Ember. We did blood work for her in late May, and her BUN and lipase levels were elevated. Creatinine was still within normal limits. Did a urine test, and she was concentrating her urine just fine. Yesterday, I took her in for skin problems she's having, which the doc thinks is dermatitis. We also ran blood work on her. Her BUN is now 45 (was 39), creatinine still normal, lipase high, and her triglycerides are now high. I don't have numbers for everything, but the blood work results should arrive this weekend. I will probably collect urine next week to test specific gravity again. Otherwise, I'm not sure of what to do. The doc says elevated lipase indicates pancreatitis in dogs, but isn't quite as definitive in cats. I did a little reading earlier, and I saw something about adding digestive enzymes to food, and that this might help with the lipase and triglyceride levels. Has anyone done this? Also, has anyone seen high BUN with normal creatinine and good specific gravity? Please let me know what you think. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers
Lee Was grandma from the old country by chance? Sounds like some ideas other cultures might have. The coffee actually doesn't sound half bad, but then I always loved the skin on my hot chocolate as a kid. The feathers? Well, I'd have to be awfully hungry on that one... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 5:16 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers Egads Lee, I'm sure you were not eager to visit granny!! On 09-14, Lee Evans wrote: Not kidding about the chicken feather soup. She also specialized in coffee boiled with milk and coffee grounds. Then after a while, it would form a leather skin on top and we had to cut through to the coffee. Yech! Burned scrambled eggs, almost raw liver, black toast. I would say that my grandmother was a very intelligent woman but not a gourmet cook. My uncles cat loved the liver though. __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary
Going through old mail... I have visited there, and it is a nice place. The people who run it are very caring. Chris C. -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] campaign to get an felv cat to sanctuary You do have to be careful when choosing a place for your cats. I have one, Rustic Hollow and they have provisions for FELV cats. They do ask you give a set fee per cat per year of expected life. It is not bad considering they have 6 or 7 houses for the cats with outdoor caticos. They will provide the food your cats are used to, even my Blue Buffalo or Wellness. I wouldn't even mind retiring there to one of the houses as a live in caretaker. I have no family and I would have more than enough cats to love. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers
This was a long time ago, in the 1950's when there were still private butchers and my grandmother would buy her chickens from the butcher who would pluck them there in the store so some feathers were always left on. Yes, she was from Odessa, Russia and only spoke German and Russian. She would tell me (in German and broken English) that the coffee was a French recipe. My grandfather had traveled all the way from France across Europe to Russia. He was an itinerant philosophy professor and taught his way across Europe at Universities. The French coffee was probably his idea. I was too young to drink coffee but it was traditional to put some in my milk. Then I would watch the coffee grains float. I loved my grandmother. She was very kind to me and I loved visiting her because I could go through the mysterious wardrobes and inspect the dresses and hats my aunt created. The building was in an ethnic neighborhood in New York City, the doors were never locked and people of every color and language were constantly walking in and out, as were dogs and cats from the area. I picked up a rudimentary understanding of quite a few languages before I was a teenager. There were always strangers in the apartment having coffee or a meal and conversations with my grandmother or my uncle and always some dog or cat being fed in the hallway. From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers Lee Was grandma from the old country by chance? Sounds like some ideas other cultures might have. The coffee actually doesn't sound half bad, but then I always loved the skin on my hot chocolate as a kid. The feathers? Well, I'd have to be awfully hungry on that one... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 5:16 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers Egads Lee, I'm sure you were not eager to visit granny!! On 09-14, Lee Evans wrote: Not kidding about the chicken feather soup. She also specialized in coffee boiled with milk and coffee grounds. Then after a while, it would form a leather skin on top and we had to cut through to the coffee. Yech! Burned scrambled eggs, almost raw liver, black toast. I would say that my grandmother was a very intelligent woman but not a gourmet cook. My uncles cat loved the liver though. __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charle
Hi Beth, That's new to me. Could you please point me towards more information? I've had several cats diagnosed with FIP, and none were confirmed, so I'm curious as to a possible link to FeLV. Might explain a few things. Thanks, Margo -Original Message- From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Aug 10, 2013 10:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charle FIP is common in FeLV cats Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone,We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well. I am hoping that the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it is a tumor. If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't wantto loose one of our babies. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charle
I don't know why some vets are so uninformed but I have had seemingly intelligent vets tell me that this or that cat had FIP because the cat had a high titer for the corona virus. This is NOT FIP. Many cats get a corona virus. Some actually become ill from it but with regular symptoms of illness - high fever, anorexic, lethargic but not the usual fluid filled chest cavity that is one of the signs of FIP (but could also be heart disease). FIP is not all that common in cats, even in strays. The few cats I rescued with genuine FIP were NOT FeLv+ or FIV+. It seems to me that vets want to blame every illness on cats who are positive for one of the combo test disorders. Sometimes I suspect that the vets want to give us a reason to dispose of the cat without having a guilty conscience since it's terminally ill anyway. I had a cat with a high titer for the corona virus. She was diagnosed with FIP. What she had was a high fever. She had a miscarriage (pregnant stray calico, very friendly) in my backyard. She was burning up with fever. They said to have her euthanized. I said no. They said FIP, I said no. She had to be spayed on an emergency basis because the rest of the fetuses were not alive. They returned a live almost bald skeleton cat to me and told me she had about a 10% chance of living through the week because she had FIP. I said she did not have it. Took home Buttercup, syringe fed her for almost a month. Flea combed her every day in the isolation room she inhabited in my house. She began eating on her own after a month. Her fur grew back. She began high-jumping after bouncing balls. She grew fat. I took her back for her rabies shot and vet was astonished. Said she had recovered from FIP. I said she had recovered from a corona virus infection. She was eventually adopted.My FeLv+ cats never had FIP. Some actually fought off the FeLv virus and now test negative. Two passed away from the disease when it became active. From: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charle Hi Beth, That's new to me. Could you please point me towards more information? I've had several cats diagnosed with FIP, and none were confirmed, so I'm curious as to a possible link to FeLV. Might explain a few things. Thanks, Margo -Original Message- From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Aug 10, 2013 10:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charle FIP is common in FeLV cats Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone,We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well. I am hoping that the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it is a tumor. If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't wantto loose one of our babies. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers
What a lovely memory, Lee. And what a time that was. Gone now! You have something to treasure there! I envy that connection to European (or Ashkenazim) roots. Many of us are just non-descript white folks of vague European peasant heritage (grin). The salt of the earth - nothing to be ashamed of! Cheers! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 1:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers This was a long time ago, in the 1950's when there were still private butchers and my grandmother would buy her chickens from the butcher who would pluck them there in the store so some feathers were always left on. Yes, she was from Odessa, Russia and only spoke German and Russian. She would tell me (in German and broken English) that the coffee was a French recipe. My grandfather had traveled all the way from France across Europe to Russia. He was an itinerant philosophy professor and taught his way across Europe at Universities. The French coffee was probably his idea. I was too young to drink coffee but it was traditional to put some in my milk. Then I would watch the coffee grains float. I loved my grandmother. She was very kind to me and I loved visiting her because I could go through the mysterious wardrobes and inspect the dresses and hats my aunt created. The building was in an ethnic neighborhood in New York City, the doors were never locked and people of every color and language were constantly walking in and out, as were dogs and cats from the area. I picked up a rudimentary understanding of quite a few languages before I was a teenager. There were always strangers in the apartment having coffee or a meal and conversations with my grandmother or my uncle and always some dog or cat being fed in the hallway. _ From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers Lee Was grandma from the old country by chance? Sounds like some ideas other cultures might have. The coffee actually doesn't sound half bad, but then I always loved the skin on my hot chocolate as a kid. The feathers? Well, I'd have to be awfully hungry on that one... -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 5:16 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Chicken feathers Egads Lee, I'm sure you were not eager to visit granny!! On 09-14, Lee Evans wrote: Not kidding about the chicken feather soup. She also specialized in coffee boiled with milk and coffee grounds. Then after a while, it would form a leather skin on top and we had to cut through to the coffee. Yech! Burned scrambled eggs, almost raw liver, black toast. I would say that my grandmother was a very intelligent woman but not a gourmet cook. My uncles cat loved the liver though. __ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Healing thoughts for Bubba
What is a hemobart? On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Beth wrote: He was not good last night when I got home. He barely lifted his head. I wasn't sure he would still be alive this morning. He seems perkier this morning. I'm home all day so we will see how it goes. dlg...@windstream.net wrote: How is Bubba doing now? JC microscopicwin...@yahoo.com wrote: He's in my thoughts and prayers, as are you.. --- On Wed, 6/12/13, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Healing thoughts for Bubba To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, June 12, 2013, 12:59 PM Poor Bubba! I'm sorry he's having such a rough time, and a rude bite on the tail to top it off. Hopefully he can clear the Hemobart and move on. I'll add him to the purrayers list. Best wishes to you and Bubba, Lance On Jun 12, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey guys need some positive energy for one of my FeLV fosters - Bubba. He had been battling a URI. Tried a couple different antibiotics, and finally, after a week the URI cleared he started eating on his own last Sunday. Well as soon as I took him off the Doxy he started going down again. We went to the shelter this afternoon thankfully they had a wonderful vet volunteering who has experience in FeLV kitties. We're wondering now if he has Hemobart since he starting going down after withdrawing the Doxy. His gums were pink, though. I've had a constant battle with fleas. Advantage was no longer working so I switched Frontline, but that doesn't seem to be working well either. He got fluids, more Doxy, Prenisone, Cyproheptadine, Capstar AD. On top of that it looks like he has a cat bite o his tail. Poor baby. Going to go home tonight spend some one-on-one time with him. Just being able to talk to you guys about these babies really helps. At least I feel like someone understands how helpless I feel sometimes. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bad News
Sorry Amanda. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Beth wrote: So sorry, Amanda. Thank you for taking such good care of Polli. You both are in my thoughts. Beth Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Amanda, so sorry to hear about Polli. I'll say a prayer for her, that her journey and transition are easy. And for you, that the pain of loss heals quickly. Bonnie From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amanda K. Payne Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 5:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Bad News Hi everyone, We took Polli in to a new vet today to get something new to treat her URI. She had a bad reaction to Clavamox and we were looking for a new vet who would be more aggressive and open minded with her treatments. We found a great vet, one I used to go to when I lived on the other side of town. He was optimistic about her treatment and was confident we could get her over this URI. However, he noticed that her belly is distended. He did a tap and diagnosed her with FIP (another disease I have already dealt with before). Her skin and gums are also very jaundiced. He says it appears her body is shutting down. We made an appointment to euthanize her at our home tomorrow afternoon. She's been on a decline for the past two weeks and feel it's time to help her go. Please keep us in your thoughts. Best, -Amanda -- There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge Bertrand Russell ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charle
Wow - good for you for doing right by Buttercup! You'll go to heaven on that one ;-) From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 4:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charle I don't know why some vets are so uninformed but I have had seemingly intelligent vets tell me that this or that cat had FIP because the cat had a high titer for the corona virus. This is NOT FIP. Many cats get a corona virus. Some actually become ill from it but with regular symptoms of illness - high fever, anorexic, lethargic but not the usual fluid filled chest cavity that is one of the signs of FIP (but could also be heart disease). FIP is not all that common in cats, even in strays. The few cats I rescued with genuine FIP were NOT FeLv+ or FIV+. It seems to me that vets want to blame every illness on cats who are positive for one of the combo test disorders. Sometimes I suspect that the vets want to give us a reason to dispose of the cat without having a guilty conscience since it's terminally ill anyway. I had a cat with a high titer for the corona virus. She was diagnosed with FIP. What she had was a high fever. She had a miscarriage (pregnant stray calico, very friendly) in my backyard. She was burning up with fever. They said to have her euthanized. I said no. They said FIP, I said no. She had to be spayed on an emergency basis because the rest of the fetuses were not alive. They returned a live almost bald skeleton cat to me and told me she had about a 10% chance of living through the week because she had FIP. I said she did not have it. Took home Buttercup, syringe fed her for almost a month. Flea combed her every day in the isolation room she inhabited in my house. She began eating on her own after a month. Her fur grew back. She began high-jumping after bouncing balls. She grew fat. I took her back for her rabies shot and vet was astonished. Said she had recovered from FIP. I said she had recovered from a corona virus infection. She was eventually adopted.My FeLv+ cats never had FIP. Some actually fought off the FeLv virus and now test negative. Two passed away from the disease when it became active. _ From: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charle Hi Beth, That's new to me. Could you please point me towards more information? I've had several cats diagnosed with FIP, and none were confirmed, so I'm curious as to a possible link to FeLV. Might explain a few things. Thanks, Margo -Original Message- From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com Sent: Aug 10, 2013 10:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Charle FIP is common in FeLV cats Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone,We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well. I am hoping that the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it is a tumor. If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't wantto loose one of our babies. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charle
Have him checked foe medistinal lymphoma, it is a very aggressive canser, very treatable but treatment must be started ASAP. On 8/10/2013 7:36 PM, Beth wrote: FIP is common in FeLV cats Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone,We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well. I am hoping that the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it is a tumor. If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't wantto loose one of our babies. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats and Emma ... http://MyPledgee.com http://FreeAnimalRescueWebsite.org http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Charle
May I recommend you to a cancer group that I joined after all chemos failed and I was once again given 3 months. I vowed never to do chemo again and began looking around. There is a tonic (internal) and a salve (external) I am using it now. the group is 2053-proven-alternati...@googlegroups.com. At the very least, they can give lots of support. Belinda ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: Have him checked foe medistinal lymphoma, it is a very aggressive canser, very treatable but treatment must be started ASAP. On 8/10/2013 7:36 PM, Beth wrote: FIP is common in FeLV cats Marci Greer frecklescras...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone,We took Charles (felv+) to the vet this morning and they did an xray of his chest, their is a lot of fluid in his chest cavity, she said it could possibly be a tumor. She gave him a shot of cortisone and a shot of Lasix, sent us home with Lasix pills as well. I am hoping that the Lasix gets rid of all of the fluid and hopefully we can by some time if it is a tumor. If anyone has any advise or thoughtsI don't wantto loose one of our babies. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats and Emma ... http://MyPledgee.com http://FreeAnimalRescueWebsite.org http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
