Re: [Felvtalk] No Mail

2016-09-16 Thread dlgegg 
No matter the caue of their death, we miss them.  Sometimes I think I see those 
who have gone on and call to them, but of corse, they are not there.  It is 
like with my mother and father, I start to tell them about an incident in my 
day and realize that I no longer can tell them.  My chirppractor told me to 
write a journal about each day.  It does seem to help.


 Ardy Robertson  wrote: 
> To Marsha,
> I'm so sorry that you lost Brock. It just happens to be the same day I lost
> my Tigger... April 29th. What an awful day. I miss him so much, as I am sure
> you miss Brock along with the other two before him. I now have a little girl
> - Topaz and she is negative and vaccinated. I hate FeLV and hope they can
> cure it someday.
> Ardy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Marsha
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:28 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Mail
> 
> I lost my final FeLV+ boy on April 29 of this year.   Milkdud was my 
> first FeLV+ cat, who arrived in the fall of 2009.  Harley came a year later.
> Then Brock became Harley's companion after Milkdud died.  Brock wasn't
> lonely after Harley died last year, as Harley had been after Milkdud passed,
> so I didn't look for a companion for Brock.  Cancer took all 3, though
> Harley had a life-threatening URI 2 months before he got cancer, and Brock
> had a heart condition that usually claims feline lives within 3 months, yet
> he happily survived a year with it.
> 
> Missing my sweet, sweet boys,
> 
> Marsha
> 
> On 9/14/2016 6:17 PM, Lorrie wrote:
> > I've not had any mail from the group in about a month.
> > I hope this means you and your kitties are all doing well.
> > However I wonder if I've been dumped by the automatic system that 
> > claims I have bounced mail, which I do NOT.
> >
> > Lorrie
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

2016-09-16 Thread dlgegg 
Last year I switched vets because mine was always out on a farm call and I had 
to drive over 30 miles to St Louis to an emergency vet.  This new vet is there 
when I need her unless it is 2AM, and more agreeable about trying new and 
different things.

 Ardy Robertson  wrote: 
> That is so frustrating. It would be nice if we could concentrate on getting
> our fur-babies better, and not have to battle vets who won't cooperate.
> Doxycycline is a necessary part of the treatment if you ask me :)
> 
>  
> 
> One of my vets finally gave up and gave me the prescriptions that I wanted
> for Tigg.
> 
>  
> 
> Ardy
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:22 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
> 
>  
> 
> Amani, I did discuss my fears of stopping the Stanzolol but he told me
> basically that this is how we were going to do it. I also mentioned the
> doxycycline. Which I got just a shake of the head. I can't double up Bogeys
> meds because they only give me so much of it.until our next appointment
> actually. I'm not comfortable with trying to find another vet because the
> likelihood of them giving out Stanzolol is a turkey shoot. I feel a little
> helpless here. Hopefully she will continue to get a little better each time
> on what he is prescribing for her. Thanks for writing.
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk   > on behalf of Amani Oakley
>  >
> Reply-To: 
> >
> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  "
>  >
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry - I was looking at the wrong thing when I mentioned the lymphocytes. I
> was actually noticing the MCHC going up (mean cell haemoglobin
> concentration) which is also a good thing.
> 
>  
> 
> They lymphocytes have gone up, not down, and emphasizes the need for the
> doxycycline in my opinion.
> 
>  
> 
> Amani
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: September-16-16 12:21 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
> 
>  
> 
> Well we got good news at the vets office today. Not great but good. Bogey
> was on Pred and Stanzolol for 14 days. The vet then wanted her off
> (Stanzolol) for 14 days then back on to cycle her on it. Bogey then went
> into heat on the 5th off day so I called the vet 4 days into her heat
> because it seemed to be very hard on her. He had me go right back on the
> Stanzolol and her heat ended the next day. So what we had was 2 weeks on, 10
> days off and been back on it now for 7 days. Her are her results from 9/16
> and the ones from 8/24.
> 
>  
> 
> 9/16
> 8/24
> 
> RBC 2.57
> 2.43
> 
> HCT 15.3
> 15.3
> 
> HGB 5.5
> 5.3
> 
> MCV59.1
> 62.6
> 
> MCH21.4
> 21.8
> 
> MCHC  36.2
> 34.9
> 
> RDW23.7
> 23.9
> 
> RETIC  78.1
> 61.5
> 
> WBC14.47
> 13.46
> 
> NEU 4.07
> 4.03
> 
> LYM8.83
> 7.75
> 
> MONO1.52
> 1.58
> 
> EOS .004
> .010
> 
> BASO   .010
> .000
> 
> PLT  88
> 50
> 
>  
> 
> She did not have a fever today and had gained almost .75 of a pound since
> 8/1. She is still playing some, eating and drinking well. But still is
> wobbly and sleeps quite a bit. She is holding her own on this drug combo and
> the vet was very happy especially with the PLT, which I need to read about
> again. We are keeping her on it for 30 days this next cycle and rechecking
> then. (Although I will probably take her in before that because I am a
> worrier)
> 
>  
> 
> Just thought I would post this for other FELV+ owners incase you were
> doubting this drug (Stanzolol) because of the potential of damage later in
> life. Remember we must get them to "later in life" first.
> 
> Thank you all and best wishes.
> 
>  
> 
> Sherri
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

2016-09-16 Thread Ardy Robertson 
That is so frustrating. It would be nice if we could concentrate on getting
our fur-babies better, and not have to battle vets who won't cooperate.
Doxycycline is a necessary part of the treatment if you ask me :)

 

One of my vets finally gave up and gave me the prescriptions that I wanted
for Tigg.

 

Ardy

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

 

Amani, I did discuss my fears of stopping the Stanzolol but he told me
basically that this is how we were going to do it. I also mentioned the
doxycycline. Which I got just a shake of the head. I can't double up Bogeys
meds because they only give me so much of it.until our next appointment
actually. I'm not comfortable with trying to find another vet because the
likelihood of them giving out Stanzolol is a turkey shoot. I feel a little
helpless here. Hopefully she will continue to get a little better each time
on what he is prescribing for her. Thanks for writing.

 

From: Felvtalk  > on behalf of Amani Oakley
 >
Reply-To: 
>
Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  "
 >
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

 

Sorry - I was looking at the wrong thing when I mentioned the lymphocytes. I
was actually noticing the MCHC going up (mean cell haemoglobin
concentration) which is also a good thing.

 

They lymphocytes have gone up, not down, and emphasizes the need for the
doxycycline in my opinion.

 

Amani

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: September-16-16 12:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

 

Well we got good news at the vets office today. Not great but good. Bogey
was on Pred and Stanzolol for 14 days. The vet then wanted her off
(Stanzolol) for 14 days then back on to cycle her on it. Bogey then went
into heat on the 5th off day so I called the vet 4 days into her heat
because it seemed to be very hard on her. He had me go right back on the
Stanzolol and her heat ended the next day. So what we had was 2 weeks on, 10
days off and been back on it now for 7 days. Her are her results from 9/16
and the ones from 8/24.

 

9/16
8/24

RBC 2.57
2.43

HCT 15.3
15.3

HGB 5.5
5.3

MCV59.1
62.6

MCH21.4
21.8

MCHC  36.2
34.9

RDW23.7
23.9

RETIC  78.1
61.5

WBC14.47
13.46

NEU 4.07
4.03

LYM8.83
7.75

MONO1.52
1.58

EOS .004
.010

BASO   .010
.000

PLT  88
50

 

She did not have a fever today and had gained almost .75 of a pound since
8/1. She is still playing some, eating and drinking well. But still is
wobbly and sleeps quite a bit. She is holding her own on this drug combo and
the vet was very happy especially with the PLT, which I need to read about
again. We are keeping her on it for 30 days this next cycle and rechecking
then. (Although I will probably take her in before that because I am a
worrier)

 

Just thought I would post this for other FELV+ owners incase you were
doubting this drug (Stanzolol) because of the potential of damage later in
life. Remember we must get them to "later in life" first.

Thank you all and best wishes.

 

Sherri

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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 8

2016-09-16 Thread Ardy Robertson 
d with FeLV


Hi everyone,

Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with 
FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and 
in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things 
escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion 
that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us 
she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the 
extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently 
talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question 
for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's 
talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. 
It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline  in case there was a 
bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone 
have experience with that and know if it was effec
 tive? I also started him on Pet Tinic.   Any other suggestions? Any insight 
into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, 
they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow.  I'm scared. We 
have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my 
heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive.

Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and 
I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested.
http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk

Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Re: [Felvtalk] No Mail

2016-09-16 Thread Ardy Robertson 
To Marsha,
I'm so sorry that you lost Brock. It just happens to be the same day I lost
my Tigger... April 29th. What an awful day. I miss him so much, as I am sure
you miss Brock along with the other two before him. I now have a little girl
- Topaz and she is negative and vaccinated. I hate FeLV and hope they can
cure it someday.
Ardy




-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Marsha
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 2:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Mail

I lost my final FeLV+ boy on April 29 of this year.   Milkdud was my 
first FeLV+ cat, who arrived in the fall of 2009.  Harley came a year later.
Then Brock became Harley's companion after Milkdud died.  Brock wasn't
lonely after Harley died last year, as Harley had been after Milkdud passed,
so I didn't look for a companion for Brock.  Cancer took all 3, though
Harley had a life-threatening URI 2 months before he got cancer, and Brock
had a heart condition that usually claims feline lives within 3 months, yet
he happily survived a year with it.

Missing my sweet, sweet boys,

Marsha

On 9/14/2016 6:17 PM, Lorrie wrote:
> I've not had any mail from the group in about a month.
> I hope this means you and your kitties are all doing well.
> However I wonder if I've been dumped by the automatic system that 
> claims I have bounced mail, which I do NOT.
>
> Lorrie


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[Felvtalk] Sherpa

2016-09-16 Thread Lorelli 
Cat deteriorated today and now in kitty heaven. Signing out from the group now. 
Thanks for replies. 
Lorelli

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Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV

2016-09-16 Thread dlgegg 
I have 1 felv, Annie.  She is now 8 years plus, healthy, sassy and  8 lbs.Don't 
give up on your Hodor mand take the advice of members hwo have been through 
this.


 "Katherine K."  wrote: 
> Hodor is STUNNING. Looks like a combination of my 2 kitties. Glad you found
> our group, we're here to support you as you support Hodor. Thanks for
> helping him.
> When my cat first got sick, I had my vet order LTCI injections. They seemed
> to help, but they were expensive. Hugs to both of you!
> 
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Margo 
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Elizabeth,
> >
> >   Sorry you have to be here, but glad you found us. Thank you
> > for not allowing the Vet to euthanize. I'm appalled that a ACVIM Vet would
> > recommend that. What happened with the floss and GI involvement? Has his
> > RBC/HCT held? How does he feel and act?
> >
> >I have two FeLV+ cats on Interferon, and they have been on
> > it for 3+ years. I can't swear it helps, but I'm sure not going to stop it
> > :) You might try DMG, some people have had luck withthat, for mine, it
> > hasn;t hurt to stop it, but I would start again if either started going
> > south.
> >
> > As to your other cat, I see no point in separating them,
> > as my Vet said, "That ship has sailed". I would probably vaccinate your
> > negative cat, but I didn't. I do vaccinate anyone new who may have contact.
> >
> > Don't give up :)
> >
> > Margo, Mako, Gribble and assorted negatives...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Liz McCarty
> > Sent: Sep 15, 2016 1:39 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat
> > with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed
> > lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the
> > vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need
> > a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The
> > vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case
> > we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV
> > positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him
> > which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was
> > going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went
> > forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had
> > him on doxycycline  in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone.
> > Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that
> > and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic.   Any other
> > suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull
> > through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's
> > in the bone marrow.  I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated,
> > and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be
> > separated. She's not FeLV positive.
> >
> > Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we
> > incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is
> > interested.
> > http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk
> >
> > Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance.
> >
> > Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
> >
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

2016-09-16 Thread Sherri Godschalk 
Amani, I did discuss my fears of stopping the Stanzolol but he told me
basically that this is how we were going to do it. I also mentioned the
doxycycline. Which I got just a shake of the head. I can¹t double up Bogeys
meds because they only give me so much of itŠuntil our next appointment
actually. I¹m not comfortable with trying to find another vet because the
likelihood of them giving out Stanzolol is a turkey shoot. I feel a little
helpless here. Hopefully she will continue to get a little better each time
on what he is prescribing for her. Thanks for writing.

From:  Felvtalk  on behalf of Amani
Oakley 
Reply-To:  
Date:  Friday, September 16, 2016 at 12:26 PM
To:  "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Subject:  Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

Sorry ­ I was looking at the wrong thing when I mentioned the lymphocytes. I
was actually noticing the MCHC going up (mean cell haemoglobin
concentration) which is also a good thing.
 
They lymphocytes have gone up, not down, and emphasizes the need for the
doxycycline in my opinion.
 
Amani
 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: September-16-16 12:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol
 

Well we got good news at the vets office today. Not great but good. Bogey
was on Pred and Stanzolol for 14 days. The vet then wanted her off
(Stanzolol) for 14 days then back on to cycle her on it. Bogey then went
into heat on the 5th off day so I called the vet 4 days into her heat
because it seemed to be very hard on her. He had me go right back on the
Stanzolol and her heat ended the next day. So what we had was 2 weeks on, 10
days off and been back on it now for 7 days. Her are her results from 9/16
and the ones from 8/24.

 

   9/16
8/24

RBC2.57
2.43

HCT15.3
15.3

HGB5.5
5.3

MCV   59.1
62.6

MCH   21.4
21.8

MCHC 36.2
34.9

RDW   23.7
23.9

RETIC 78.1
61.5

WBC   14.47
13.46

NEU4.07
4.03

LYM   8.83
7.75

MONO   1.52
1.58

EOS.004
.010

BASO  .010
.000

PLT 88
50

 

She did not have a fever today and had gained almost .75 of a pound since
8/1. She is still playing some, eating and drinking well. But still is
wobbly and sleeps quite a bit. She is holding her own on this drug combo and
the vet was very happy especially with the PLT, which I need to read about
again. We are keeping her on it for 30 days this next cycle and rechecking
then. (Although I will probably take her in before that because I am a
worrier)

 

Just thought I would post this for other FELV+ owners incase you were
doubting this drug (Stanzolol) because of the potential of damage later in
life. Remember we must get them to ³later in life² first.

Thank you all and best wishes.

 

Sherri
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Re: [Felvtalk] No Mail

2016-09-16 Thread dlgegg 
re:  NO MAIL, CHECK TRASH AND MAILING LIST, ALTHOUGH THE LIST SEEMS QUIET 
LATELY.  i HOPE THAT MEANS NO NEW felv CATS.  mY aNNIE IS HANGING IN THERE AT 8 
YEARS AND HEALTHY.

 Marsha  wrote: 
> I lost my final FeLV+ boy on April 29 of this year.   Milkdud was my 
> first FeLV+ cat, who arrived in the fall of 2009.  Harley came a year 
> later.  Then Brock became Harley's companion after Milkdud died.  Brock 
> wasn't lonely after Harley died last year, as Harley had been after 
> Milkdud passed, so I didn't look for a companion for Brock.  Cancer took 
> all 3, though Harley had a life-threatening URI 2 months before he got 
> cancer, and Brock had a heart condition that usually claims feline lives 
> within 3 months, yet he happily survived a year with it.
> 
> Missing my sweet, sweet boys,
> 
> Marsha
> 
> On 9/14/2016 6:17 PM, Lorrie wrote:
> > I've not had any mail from the group in about a month.
> > I hope this means you and your kitties are all doing well.
> > However I wonder if I've been dumped by the automatic system
> > that claims I have bounced mail, which I do NOT.
> >
> > Lorrie
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] non regenerative anaemia

2016-09-16 Thread dlgegg 
I have no experience with this as I have had no need for it, but others have 
had very good luck.  I will add you both to my prayer list
 Lorelli  wrote: 
> Hi all
> 
> My cat Sherpa is 18months old and Felv+.  10 days ago she was diagnosed with
> severe non regenerative anaemia.  Haemocrit 12.7%.  She has been trying
> hard, eating well and even hunting moths but went downhill 2 days ago. I was
> all set to euthanase her today when I stumbled across the comments on
> Winstrol.  My vet was willing to try something similar as she couldn't get
> Winstrol in the UK.  She injected her with Laurabolin today.
> 
>  
> 
> Did the Winstrol help cats with non regenerative anaemia?  Are there any
> helpful articles on it out there?
> 
>  
> 
> Also how long should I give it before I decide if it is working or not?  I
> don't want to prolong her suffering.
> 
>  
> 
> She is still alert and trying to live but off her food now.  Vet has given
> her Mirtazapine that may help that.  She is also on Veraflox for suspected
> mycoplasma infection and Loxicom for fever.
> 
> Any advice out there please?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Lorelli
> 
>  
> 


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Re: [Felvtalk] No Mail

2016-09-16 Thread dlgegg 
I had a problem with FELV and a cople of friends going silent.  Then checked my 
TRASH and found them.  I had to add them back to my addresses.  Guess the 
carrier had deleted them.


 Kelley S  wrote: 
> I never get any initial posts.  If there are replies, I get them.
> I posted about Toodles anemia and her fundraiser, but she's not FELV+.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:11 PM, kat  wrote:
> 
> > It does seem quiet.  There have been only a few posts lately.
> > You can always log in to your account and re-save your current set-up.
> > It should also tell you if your account has been disabled.
> > I get the same thing periodically, and I'm not sure why either.
> >
> > Kat (Mew Jersey)
> >
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 7:17 PM
> > *From:* Lorrie 
> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] No Mail
> > I've not had any mail from the group in about a month.
> > I hope this means you and your kitties are all doing well.
> > However I wonder if I've been dumped by the automatic system
> > that claims I have bounced mail, which I do NOT.
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

2016-09-16 Thread Amani Oakley 
Sorry - I was looking at the wrong thing when I mentioned the lymphocytes. I 
was actually noticing the MCHC going up (mean cell haemoglobin concentration) 
which is also a good thing.

They lymphocytes have gone up, not down, and emphasizes the need for the 
doxycycline in my opinion.

Amani

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

Well we got good news at the vets office today. Not great but good. Bogey was 
on Pred and Stanzolol for 14 days. The vet then wanted her off (Stanzolol) for 
14 days then back on to cycle her on it. Bogey then went into heat on the 5th 
off day so I called the vet 4 days into her heat because it seemed to be very 
hard on her. He had me go right back on the Stanzolol and her heat ended the 
next day. So what we had was 2 weeks on, 10 days off and been back on it now 
for 7 days. Her are her results from 9/16 and the ones from 8/24.

9/16
   8/24
RBC 2.57
 
2.43
HCT 15.3
 
15.3
HGB 5.5 
 5.3
MCV59.1 
62.6
MCH21.4 
21.8
MCHC  36.2  
   34.9
RDW23.7 
23.9
RETIC  78.1 
61.5
WBC14.47
   13.46
NEU 4.07
 4.03
LYM8.83 
7.75
MONO1.52
 1.58
EOS .004
 
.010
BASO   .010 
.000
PLT  88 

   50

She did not have a fever today and had gained almost .75 of a pound since 8/1. 
She is still playing some, eating and drinking well. But still is wobbly and 
sleeps quite a bit. She is holding her own on this drug combo and the vet was 
very happy especially with the PLT, which I need to read about again. We are 
keeping her on it for 30 days this next cycle and rechecking then. (Although I 
will probably take her in before that because I am a worrier)

Just thought I would post this for other FELV+ owners incase you were doubting 
this drug (Stanzolol) because of the potential of damage later in life. 
Remember we must get them to "later in life" first.
Thank you all and best wishes.

Sherri
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Re: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

2016-09-16 Thread Amani Oakley 
Yes - the platelets are increasing well, and I see the lymphocytes are down 
which is also a good thing. The red cells and haematocrit are not going up very 
much, but I suspect that may be because of stopping the Winstrol for those 10 
days. As you know, I mentioned to you I thought this wasn't a good idea. From 
my observations, it is a slow long climb up and you don't want to curtail that 
advancement by stopping the Winstrol. I also think you should double the 
Winstrol for at least a week.

Also good news about the reticulocytes increasing - the immature red cell forms.

Still also think you need to get him to add the Doxycycline.

Amani

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Sent: September-16-16 12:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

Well we got good news at the vets office today. Not great but good. Bogey was 
on Pred and Stanzolol for 14 days. The vet then wanted her off (Stanzolol) for 
14 days then back on to cycle her on it. Bogey then went into heat on the 5th 
off day so I called the vet 4 days into her heat because it seemed to be very 
hard on her. He had me go right back on the Stanzolol and her heat ended the 
next day. So what we had was 2 weeks on, 10 days off and been back on it now 
for 7 days. Her are her results from 9/16 and the ones from 8/24.

9/16
   8/24
RBC 2.57
 
2.43
HCT 15.3
 
15.3
HGB 5.5 
 5.3
MCV59.1 
62.6
MCH21.4 
21.8
MCHC  36.2  
   34.9
RDW23.7 
23.9
RETIC  78.1 
61.5
WBC14.47
   13.46
NEU 4.07
 4.03
LYM8.83 
7.75
MONO1.52
 1.58
EOS .004
 
.010
BASO   .010 
.000
PLT  88 

   50

She did not have a fever today and had gained almost .75 of a pound since 8/1. 
She is still playing some, eating and drinking well. But still is wobbly and 
sleeps quite a bit. She is holding her own on this drug combo and the vet was 
very happy especially with the PLT, which I need to read about again. We are 
keeping her on it for 30 days this next cycle and rechecking then. (Although I 
will probably take her in before that because I am a worrier)

Just thought I would post this for other FELV+ owners incase you were doubting 
this drug (Stanzolol) because of the potential of damage later in life. 
Remember we must get them to "later in life" first.
Thank you all and best wishes.

Sherri
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[Felvtalk] Bogey's First Month on Stanzolol

2016-09-16 Thread Sherri Godschalk 
Well we got good news at the vets office today. Not great but good. Bogey
was on Pred and Stanzolol for 14 days. The vet then wanted her off
(Stanzolol) for 14 days then back on to cycle her on it. Bogey then went
into heat on the 5th off day so I called the vet 4 days into her heat
because it seemed to be very hard on her. He had me go right back on the
Stanzolol and her heat ended the next day. So what we had was 2 weeks on, 10
days off and been back on it now for 7 days. Her are her results from 9/16
and the ones from 8/24.

9/16   8/24
RBC 2.57 2.43
HCT 15.3 15.3
HGB 5.5 5.3
MCV 59.1 62.6
MCH 21.4 21.8
MCHC 36.2 34.9
RDW 23.7 23.9
RETIC 78.1 61.5
WBC 14.47 13.46
NEU 4.07 4.03
LYM 8.83 7.75
MONO 1.52 1.58
EOS .004 .010
BASO .010 .000
PLT 88 50

She did not have a fever today and had gained almost .75 of a pound since
8/1. She is still playing some, eating and drinking well. But still is
wobbly and sleeps quite a bit. She is holding her own on this drug combo and
the vet was very happy especially with the PLT, which I need to read about
again. We are keeping her on it for 30 days this next cycle and rechecking
then. (Although I will probably take her in before that because I am a
worrier)

Just thought I would post this for other FELV+ owners incase you were
doubting this drug (Stanzolol) because of the potential of damage later in
life. Remember we must get them to ³later in life² first.
Thank you all and best wishes.

Sherri


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[Felvtalk] Non regenerative anaemia

2016-09-16 Thread Lorelli 
Hi Amani
Thanks for your reply. Laurabolin is very similar but not identical. I am 
running out of time. Cat stopped eating yesterday and getting very weak. Going 
to have to call it a day. I just wondered when I might see results from the 
anabolic steroid. It's over 24 hours now and cat declining and not walking well 
although vocal and purring more than before. 
Lorelli

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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 10

2016-09-16 Thread Liz McCarty 
enzymes went up, because he was going to die with the low
> red cell count he had. I kept him on Winstrol for around 10 months, before
> the red cells were in a normal range. During that ten mon
>  th period, I would wean him down a few times, but ALWAYS the red cells
> would immediately drop again, so it was more than clear that it was the
> Winstrol making the numbers rise. So, in the end, he had Winstrol pretty
> much for the duration of 10 months and his liver enzymes went right back to
> normal again, once I discontinued the Winstrol ? NO lasting damage. This
> was also my experience with a second cat with a nasal sarcoma, and where I
> used the Winstrol to keep her appetite up and reduce the swelling (she was
> 16). The enzymes went quite high at the outset of my use of Winstrol, but
> went back to normal when I weaned her off for a bit and then again when I
> ultimately took her off the Winstrol.
>
> Get the Winstrol if you can, and use it in combination with the prednisone
> (which I am told also helps to protect the liver when the Winstrol is used)
> and Doxycycline.
>
> Amani
>
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felv
> talk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>] On Behalf Of Liz McCarty
> Sent: September-15-16 1:40 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat
> with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed
> lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the
> vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need
> a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The
> vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case
> we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV
> positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him
> which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was
> going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went
> forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had
> him on doxycycline  in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone.
> Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that
> and know if it was effec
>  tive? I also started him on Pet Tinic.   Any other suggestions? Any
> insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't
> have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow.
> I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best
> friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not
> FeLV positive.
>
> Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we
> incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is
> interested.
> http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk
>
> Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance.
>
> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 8

2016-09-16 Thread Amani Oakley 
m! We went forward with the blood transfusion. 
It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline  in case there was a 
bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone 
have experience with that and know if it was effec
 tive? I also started him on Pet Tinic.   Any other suggestions? Any insight 
into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, 
they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow.  I'm scared. We 
have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my 
heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive.

Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and 
I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested.
http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk

Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 8

2016-09-16 Thread Liz McCarty 
f it's in the bone marrow.
> I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best
> friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not
> FeLV positive.
>
> Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we
> incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is
> interested.
> http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk
>
> Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance.
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] non regenerative anaemia

2016-09-16 Thread Amani Oakley 
Lorelli

I found something online that says Laurabolin contains stanazalol, or something 
similar so if it does, it should work.

This is something else I found on line:

In the UK, Winstrol-V (Stanozolol) drug is not for sale. However, the British 
veterinarians have the opportunity to issue a permit to import Winstrol-V 
anabolic steroid or other Stanozolol-containing drugs.

Amani



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Sent: September-15-16 6:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] non regenerative anaemia

Hi all
My cat Sherpa is 18months old and Felv+.  10 days ago she was diagnosed with 
severe non regenerative anaemia.  Haemocrit 12.7%.  She has been trying hard, 
eating well and even hunting moths but went downhill 2 days ago. I was all set 
to euthanase her today when I stumbled across the comments on Winstrol.  My vet 
was willing to try something similar as she couldn't get Winstrol in the UK.  
She injected her with Laurabolin today.

Did the Winstrol help cats with non regenerative anaemia?  Are there any 
helpful articles on it out there?

Also how long should I give it before I decide if it is working or not?  I 
don't want to prolong her suffering.

She is still alert and trying to live but off her food now.  Vet has given her 
Mirtazapine that may help that.  She is also on Veraflox for suspected 
mycoplasma infection and Loxicom for fever.
Any advice out there please?
Thanks,

Lorelli

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Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV

2016-09-16 Thread Amani Oakley 
Hi Sherri

I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is 
that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back into 
the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to interfere 
with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, though I 
believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. But at the 
outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the Doxycycline on 
board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it from rising.

Amani

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Godschalk
Sent: September-15-16 4:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV

Hi Elizabeth,
I had commented a couple of times on your Facebook posts on the Felv+ Owners 
page.
How has your cat been feeling since the transfusion? Has he been able to 
sustain any energy, appetite and such after his transfusion?
I am glad you found this board. I was given very good info here after Bogey was 
diagnosed. Her IFA was positive and so her bone marrow is affected. Her RBC was 
13 when I took her in. She had stopped playing, eating and was sleeping all the 
time. After being on the Prednisone her appetite rebounded. They also put her 
on an antibiotic that we have since stopped at the vets urging and added 
Stanzolol 2mg once a day. She goes back in tomorrow to see if her counts are 
better and I think they will be. Her gums are more pink, playing some and 
eating good. I am certain though that she is still quite anemic. We just need 
to show improvement with this treatment. I find myself saying all day today 
"Please be higher".
My point being they can rebound from the anemia.  I don't know for how long but 
I am going to give my cat the best chance at life that I can as I am sure you 
will and everyone else on this board does. Some cats can live a long time with 
FELV and some just cannot. I wish us all the best of luck.
Sherri

From: Felvtalk 
>
 on behalf of Liz McCarty >
Reply-To: >
Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:39 PM
To: >
Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV


Hi everyone,

Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with 
FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and 
in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things 
escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion 
that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us 
she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the 
extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently 
talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question 
for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's 
talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. 
It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline  in case there was a 
bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone 
have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on 
Pet Tinic.   Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will 
be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't 
know if it's in the bone marrow.  I'm scared. We have another one year old, 
unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be 
separated. She's not FeLV positive.

Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and 
I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested.
http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk

Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV

2016-09-16 Thread Amani Oakley 
Hi Liz

The only thing that works to turn back on red cell production is Winstrol 
(Stanazolol). It is an ANABOLIC steroid (as opposed to most steroids we are 
used to getting, like prednisone, which is a corticosteroid.

Anabolic steroids are ones which build muscle, tissue, etc.

Adding Winstrol to the combination of medication you have your cat on right 
now, would be the best thing to do. The Doxycycline acts to slow down or 
inhibit the reproduction of the FeLV virus by interfering the RNA duplication. 
The prednisone is helpful in keeping inflammation at bay, but neither of these 
helps to increase the red cells. The Winstrol acts directly and very quickly on 
the bone marrow and seems to get red cells generated again, quite promptly. At 
least it did for my Zander, and I have been contacted directly by several 
people from this group, who have reported to me that they also saw almost 
immediate (within 3 days) evidence of their cats’ gums/ears/pads pinkening up.

The problem is that Winstrol is a controversial drug because it is also what 
professional athletes use to get bigger, stronger and faster. Quite 
unfortunately (since none of our cats are entering the Olympics) that 
association with doping scandals has cast a shadow on its use in both animal 
and people medicine. In human medicine, it is the only drug found to be 
effective in treating hereditary angioedema and anemia.

Here is a blurb I found about it:

Winstrol was first invented in 1959. Soon after that, the UK based Winthrop 
Laboratories created a prescription medicine from it. Later, in 1961, 
Winthrop’s patent was bought by the US based Sterling that started 
manufacturing and selling the drug in the American markets.
In the beginning, Winstrol was used for a variety of medical reasons. But 
later, by the 1970s, the FDA had restricted its use to only promoting growth 
and treating osteoporosis. In the 1980s, there was a termination of the 
manufacture of anabolic steroids in the American market. But Winstrol was among 
those steroids which not only survived, but thrived in the 1980s and 1990s. 
During this period, its use was reinforced as a cure for anemia – as it had the 
power to boost red blood cell count, and was used as a treatment for facial 
swelling or angioedema.
When the manufacture of Winstrol was finally discontinued, Ovation 
Pharmaceuticals bought the rights to manufacture it, in 2003. However, Ovation 
Pharmaceuticals have ceased their operations now, so the Winstrol products 
available today in the American markets are only generic and not pharmaceutical 
grade. Outside the USA, however, several large brands still manufacture and 
sell Winstrol.
Genuine Stanozolol can be distinguished in water suspensions because it 
separates from the liquid into micrometer particles. These particles will fall 
to the bottom if the container is not disturbed for a few hours. The crystals 
have a milky white color.
Winstrol can not only be used for humans, but it has veterinary uses as well. 
Weakened or injured animals can be treated with Winstrol in order to promote 
red blood cell count, strengthen bones, stimulate appetite, and enhance muscle 
growth. It has also reportedly been used to dope horses in US horse races.
If your vet is willing to try this, he/she will need to order it from a 
compounding pharmacy.

The dose should be 1 mg 2 times a day for a cat. If your cat is in poor shape 
and needs an immediate boost, start him on 2 mg x 2 times a day for a week or 
so, and then drop down to the lower dose.

Your vet will undoubtedly say that Winstrol is known to cause liver damage.

The first answer to this is, so what? FeLV will almost invariably result in the 
premature death of cats. The vets have nothing which is directly effective to 
fight FeLV. Things like Interferon may or may not assist but such a treatment 
is again a side treatment where you are hoping to boost your cat’s immune 
system, rather than a direct attack on the virus. It is also quite indirect in 
that IF the interferon helps, it will be more long term, and only if it manages 
to boost the immune system enough to permit your cat’s system to try and fight 
the virus, and when/if the virus is inhibited enough, then MAYBE (if the virus 
hasn’t already destroyed all the progenitor cells in the bone marrow) will red 
cell production begin to climb again. Winstrol is the only medication that I 
know of, (and believe me, I have looked!) that seems to work by turning back on 
those progenitor cells or possibly promoting the growth of new ones since it 
also works to enhance the production of bone cells (effective against 
osteoporosis).

The second answer, regarding the liver damage, is that the only information 
about this is quite suspect, coming out of a very poorly designed research 
study where the cats in the study were given doses found effective on HUSKY 
SLED DOGS for lord’s sake! The cats were given a LOADING DOSE via intravenous 
injection, of 25 mg –