military felv+ cat needs foster for 6 months
Web Page: http://operationnoblefoster.org/contact.htm Name: katie fletcher Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Military: yes Comments: i am being deployed in january for 6 months and i have a cat that has tested positive with felv. i was hoping you could help me find someone who could take care of her for me while i am away. everyone i know either does not like cats or already has one and can not take her. thank you and i hope to hear from you soon. katie fletcher p.s. since the computers on board ship do not always work when you need them to, i will give you my mom's email address too ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and she will get in touch with me with any information you might have. thanks again, katie
two felv+ cats in georgia need a home
One is a blk DMH with a little white on the chest. The other is a black/orange torti. Both are very sweet. They are caged together. the pound is very rescue friendly. Pauline is holding onto the cats to give them a chance to find rescue or adopter- til next week. MURRAY COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER PO Box 1129 Chatsworth, GA 30705 p:706-695-8003 f:706-695-8069 WEBSITE http://www.petfinder.com/shelters/GA155.html HOURS OF OPERATION CLOSED Friday mornings for euth. Must call before 5pm on Thursdays to save a pet. PRIMARY CONTACT Pauline Davis, Murray County Animal Shelter Phone: 706-695-8003 regards barbara
foam mats???
what is wrong with the foam mats? the pound we rescue from has those as dividers (because county too darn cheap to put up plexiglass)to cut down on any xcontamination if a sick cat comes in. thank you in advance for this info. barbara
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 75
i belive the felv kitten hit by a car is possibly in austin texas as i googled that humane society and the area code 512 is also the same. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:27 PM Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 75 Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hit by car FELV+ kitten needs rescue (TenHouseCats) 2. Re: Popeye has gone to the bridge (catatonya) 3. Re: Churchill Please add to the CLS (catatonya) 4. Re: Popeye has gone to the bridge (catatonya) 5. RE: Popeye has gone to the bridge (catatonya) 6. Re: Dilated left eye ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:22:34 -0400 From: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hit by car FELV+ kitten needs rescue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 WHERE IS HE? On 8/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. FeLV Kitten Survives Hit Run Car Accident is now facing Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] kitrynak Date: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:20 pm (PDT) Russo escaped all odds when he was hit by a car, then taken to The Humane Society of Williamson County. He was immediately rushed to the vet where he was treated, and it was determined he would be fine with a little TLC and care. Russo has only lived a short 3 months and thought his luck was changing. But, unfortunately his luck didn't hold out, he has tested positive for FeLV. The shelter does not have the proper facility to provide shelter for an FeLV kitty. We are desperate to see this little boy get a chance at love and life, even if just for a little while. He loves to snuggle, play, and purrs all day long. He has been through so, so much, and now this terrible turn of fate. The adoption fee will be completely waived we just want to see him saved. He can either be an only kitty, or with other FeLV kitties, but has to be an indoor only cat. Please call or email us today and save this little boy from being just another statistic... Ask for Kynama (512) 947-9577 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/428 - Release Date: 8/25/2006 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060827/07c9e045/attachment.htm -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:28:34 -0700 (PDT) From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Popeye has gone to the bridge To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thank you. I picked up his ashes on Friday. It was sad, so a friend came and went out to dinner with me. I am basically just 'laying low' at school and hoping for the best. Being polite, etc tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so sorry for your loss. It sounds as if Popeye had fourteen wonderful years with you and was well loved. I'm glad that your HR department was able to make your principal be reasonable. Try not to let this taint your relationship with her too much - not to excuse or defend her but she may have come from a place where they didn't allow those sorts of absences or been trying to set policy right off the bat. Her approach was unfair and terrible, but you do have to work with her every day and it will only make your life miserable if you let this get to you too much. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060827/a89692b7/attachment.htm -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:37:37 -0700 (PDT) From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Churchill Please add to the CLS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm so sorry Sherry. Your crash cats are always in my prayers. tonya Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi we lost Churchill a beautiful big gray baby.He had a big cattitude too,but we still loved him.Thanks everyone. Sherry - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries)
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 33
pls resend any mess. asking for the felv+ info for ne sanctuary for calif cat(s)--my kittens made the computer eat everything in saved - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 17, Issue 33 Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Bandy and the ringworm-- depo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2. Re: Please pray for Bandy (gwork) 3. Re: [NMHP] Silly bugs, kibble is for cats!-To Michelle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 4. Re: Please pray for Bandy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 5. Re: Please pray for Bandy (gwork) 6. Re: Please pray for Bandy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 7. to Nina (gwork) 8. Re: SPCA's Views on FelV ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 9. Re: Please pray for Bandy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 10. Re: Please pray for Bandy (wendy) 11. To Kerry re Bandy (wendy) 12. To Kris re questions (wendy) 13. Re: To Gina (wendy) 14. OT: kitty fur changing color??? (wendy) 15. Re: (no subject) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 16. Re: Mama Kitty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 17. To Kris re: website (Gina) 18. Re: to Nina ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 19. Re: Phaewryn and Bones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 20. Re: kitty fur changing color??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 21. Re: To Gina (Gina) 22. Re: Mama Kitty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 23. Re: Bandy and the ringworm (Kerry Roach) 24. Re: immuno-regulin dosage (Kerry Roach) 25. Re: Please pray for Bandy (Marylyn) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:51:06 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bandy and the ringworm-- depo To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That is REALLY strange, because steroids usually feed fungi and make them worse, I think. They help with allergies, though. Michelle In a message dated 6/15/2006 8:42:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is not the same situation, but Spaz once had a fungal ear infection which the vet attempted to treat with Conofite, and it did absolutely nothing. He then gave her a shot of Depo-Medrol, and that gave excellent results. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060617/bf510428/attachment.htm -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:14:43 -0400 From: gwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Please pray for Bandy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 But if you the animal isn't getting iron and protein, wouldn't that hinder production? Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Please pray for Bandy I don't think that not eating affects PCV much. Michelle In a message dated 6/17/2006 6:42:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It sounds like if he would just eat, then his PCV and protein would improve. Even though 22 is lower than he was, at least it's still a decent number. I guess I'm just saying, I personally don't think he is anywhere near being ready to cross yet. He just needs help, and that is presenting to be tricky at the moment. I wish I knew something to help you, but I don't, but still, personally, I think keep on trying, don't give up yet. My Spaz was almost gone thrice, but we made it. It seems strange to me that he would have a fever but normal WBC, unless his personal count is usually lower, so this is actually high for him, but still technically within the normal range. All I can tell you is that Spaz, when in the hospital for her URI, had a temp that would go up and down for about 8 days, and then finally was able to keep it down. I wish you the best for Bandy! -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060617/8d4dda0f/attachment.htm -- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 19:10:37 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NMHP] Silly bugs, kibble is for cats!-To Michelle To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, I was there years ago, and it was fantastically beautiful, and the shelter is unbelievably large and well-run and wonderful. Michelle In a message dated 6/15/2006 6:25:27 P.M.
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 37
rachel i might know a feral refuge for the cat if she tests positive. eamail me off list. thanks. barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 16, Issue 37 Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Mixing FeLv non FeLv ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2. Re: Please add Papoose to CLS - Jeni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 3. Re: Bandy's eye appt. (Barb Moermond) 4. Re: Adoptions (was OT: heartbroken) (Wolf, Leah R.) 5. Re: Rachel's ramble (Rachel Martineau) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:25:32 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mixing FeLv non FeLv To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Skipped content of type multipart/related -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:33:44 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Please add Papoose to CLS - Jeni To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jeni, I can understand your pain at losing Papoose. I am sending you healing thoughts and prayers Karen in California and her Angel Ms. Clyde -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060514/193aee01/attachment.htm -- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 23:12:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bandy's eye appt. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Kerry, that is excellent news Kerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Just wanted to update you all on Bandy's eye appointment last Thursday..We finally have some good news..and the doctor was even shocked...His eyes have improved..So for the moment, he can see some..He isn't running into things or being as cautious as he was 2 wks ago...His eyes aren't cloudy right now either...So we are on a maintenance dose of the prednisolone acetate and atropine...He gets the pred drops twice daily and atropine once daily now...we do a re-check if all is well in July otherwise I am to call if there is any change between now and then...He will have to remain on the drops the rest of his life though and the dosage adjusted according to how he responds...He said the fibrin clots were gone, but he has some scarring on the retina due to all of this...It is just part of his disease or I guess that is the cause of it..They did a toxo test, but it was negative..I think he was checked for this last August, too. Anyway, I am happy that he can see some...He is now climbing on things again..but he can't judge distance too well...I watched him yesterday, and he was very cautious about getting down...I guess he will learn how to deal with all of this...I am thinking about getting some pads to put on the floor near where he climbs so he won't hurt himself again...He likes to climb so I don't want to take that away from him... Anyway, head butts to all and hope your kitties are doing good today.. Kerry, Bandy, Inky and Angels Buster, Lil Rascal and Snoopy - Blab-away for as little as 1�/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20060513/0e16bb9f/attachment.htm -- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 08:21:17 -0400 From: Wolf, Leah R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Adoptions (was OT: heartbroken) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I adopted my Felv+ Bubba from the Friends of Montgomery County Animals via PetsMart. I discovered him and FMCA at a Cat Fanciers cat show in DC, where they had an exhibit of several of their rescued cats and a picture of Bubba. (I have a soft spot in my heart for these positive cats since one of our sweetest yellow tabbies,
mega C use plus other
hi, i have used Mega C plus for more than a few years on all my cats + and -. I also used ambertech ambrotose, vit E 200 iu and ad 1xwk. one cat is now negative, another cat still positive (but his skin allergies are gone--used to have hair loss etc) and Jelly Roll died before his 2nd birthday 2 yrs ago now, suddenly "crashing". the other cats I have on the C (knock on wood) have had no reoccurence of any flutd/ urinary tract disorders--their crystals were all struvite not oxalate, though. i stopped the ambrotose after jelly roll died. Mr bean is around 8+ yrs adn so is clancy the two felv+. barbara
Fw: [spotsociety] there is no dog with leukemia at Auburn
had a friend who is Muscogee Humane director down in Ga call auburn and - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: [spotsociety] there is no dog with leukemia at Auburn Hi Everyone! I received the email regarding the feline leukemia dog at Auburn so I called Dr. Brenda Griffin (most of you probably know her = she heads up the shelter medicine program). Anyway, she has confirmed to me that there is not any dogs with feline leukemia anywhere. It is not a zoonotic disease. Don't worry K-9's you're in the clear! It is only a feline disease. Thanks!! Joan Sammond Executive DirectorMuscogee County Humane Society7133 Sacerdote LaneColumbus, GA 31907Office: (706) 563-3647Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.muscogeehumane.org YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "spotsociety" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
?-our low cost clinic vax our rescue cat first adn then discovered cat is felv+
I work with an online rescue group--the clinic came highly recommended. we sent 10 cats to be s/n vetted. I recd phone call one cat is fiv+ and one is felv+. I said, okay-dont' pts-I'll find them refuge or something. then I got the bill emailed to me adn there's a charge for felv vax on the felv+ cat. I email back--hello--isn't this charge wrong? here's the answer I recd back-pls help or point me to research about the safety or truth to this"method"-- Because of the assembly-line methods we use, all the vaccines are drawn up and administered prior to drawing blood; therefore we don't test first then vaccinate based on the test results. The vaccine won't harm a cat who tests positive and won't affect the test results. I'm told this is how other high-volume clinics do it although I've never directly confirmed that. what's ironic is same person "saved" another felv+ that came into her clinic--and needs to find refuge for it also. she loves that cat. I would like to find research to say to the clinic, hey don'tvax first and thentest because---cornell say this or another vet univ.said this. For now I've learned to say, HEY test first then vax. it's my da*n dime paying for these rescued cats! $10 saved on a felv vax is two days of boarding fees. thanks for any help, barbara
anyone ever have a positive turn negative?
Carrie Hi, my cat Mr. Bean (foster kitten I got at 4 wks old)probably at 2-3 yrs old(dont have his vet records handy) started drooling horribly so took to vet and his cbc came back postive. the vet told me to research research research so that's how I found this group adn holisticat website. I put Bean on mega c plus, vit E 200 units daily, ad once a week, better quality canned food(too many cats to feed raw diet..), no dry food except a lttle as a treat, ambertech ambrotose on advice of my chinese medicine vet and some chinese pills he gave me(sorry long day so dont' remember squat right now)and pet tinic1xday-last year tested negative--he lost most of his teeth but his fur is beautiful and breath is good. yet the same stuff did not turn Clancy negative--but he no longer has those horrible allergies adn all his fur grew back. Now i have2 rescued cats down in Georgia who went in today for neutering at low cost clinic and one is fiv+ and one is felv+. the fiv+ i can place but the felv+ has to go back to boarding until our online rescue group can find placement for him. i dont' mind--makes up for the one cat we were going to rescue but it got adopted. yeay! but then the pound called me to say new adopters called to say cat had tested felv+ at vet and vet said to pts. the pound knows our group will look for sanctuary/homes but too late for that cat. at least it did not die in gas chamber. barbara
Please help Angels' Gate Animal hospice URGENT TUESDAY 18 2 PM MEETING -EMAIL/CALL
they have taken in felv+ cats also. I can't recall offhand which member here even sent a felv+ there in the few years I've been on this list. Sue Marino, a rescuer/vet tech from Muttshack runs her own pet hospice in NY. She has about 200 sick and dying animals and is now having problems with the town her neighbors. They are trying to get her thrown out for "running a business" when in fact it is a non-profit org trying to give these disabled pets a better life before they die. The following link goes directly to the town's reps that are ruling whether or not to throw her out of her house and off her property, along with the pets. It's Sue Marino at Angel's Gate Hospice. Please take a minute and write to show your concern. Click here: Welcome to the Town of Smithtown MORE INFO ON SUSAN HERE: Some of you know that there is a small group of neighbors surrounding Angel's Gate Animal Hospice in Fort Salonga, NY who are trying to close them down. This is not news, as there have been complaints in the past but to no avail. However, now this group is taking it to the next level by hiring an attorney and trying to pursue legal action. Angel's Gate has always maintained an open door policy and has been inspected, interviewed, observed, and/or been paid surprise visits by the Department of Health, Department of Public Safety, Buildings Department, Animal Control, The ASPCA, and the Smithtown Town Attorney and have been found in no violation of any wrong doing. In fact, founder Susan Marino won the ASPCA Founders Award in 2003 for her work with animals. Since all else has failed, this small faction of the neighborhood is now trying to claim that Angel's Gate is running as a "business" when in fact it is a nonprofit providing the only services of it's kind on Long Island. Among those supporting the hospice is the remaining majority of Angel's Gate neighbors. Now Sue, Victor and their incredible staff caring for the sick, injured, homeless, and terminally ill animals need our help. Here's how. THIS TUESDAY, April 18, at 2pm. Smithtown Town Board meeting at Town Hall - 99 West Main Street, 2nd Floor. Supporters of Angel's Gate will be attending and speaking on behalf of the hospice in the open forum section of the meeting. Please join us to speak or just to show your support. Come early! E-mail your support to Smithtown Supervisor Patrick Vecchio and Councilmembers Patricia Biancaniello, Thomas McCarthy, Edward Wehrheim, and Joanne Gray, and express the need for the hospice in the Long Island community. http://www.smithtowninfo.com/email.cfm CALL WRITE Smithtown Supervisor Patrick Vecchio and Town Board Patricia Biancaniello, Thomas McCarthy, Edward Wehrheim, and Joanne Gray voicing support. c/o Smithtown Town Hall 99 W. Main Street Smithtown NY 11787 Supervisor's office: (631) 360-7600 Town Council office: (631) 360-7621 Please forward this e-mail, write your own, or pass this information along to others to leverage your support. Thank you for your help. Listed below are links to additional information. For further details or if you have any questions, please call Angel's Gate at (631) 269-7641. Sincerely, Cathy LaSusa Volunteer For detailed information on the issue: http://www.angelsgate.org/UNDER%20ATTACK.htm Website for Angel's Gate: http://www.angelsgate.org/ Info on past media coverage of Angel's Gate: http://www.angelsgate.org/In%20The%20News.htm NYC Mayor's Alliance article on Angel's Gate: http://www.animalalliancenyc.org/newsletter/05-05/aao.htm _ 25 replies e posted Reply # Apr-17-06 12:15 PDT
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 15, Issue 31/2felv+ kittens need home- pet cats in rochester ny
Hi Amy, I sent you some info for hopeful placement ideas for the felv+ cats of dead owner. if you dont' receive it, let me know. or at least i hope i sent it correctly... barbara Lowe From: Amy Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 2 FeLV+ Kittens Need Home - Please Read To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm writing about 2 male white kittens in Rochester, NY that desperately need a home. I just got a call from a woman about her son who died suddenly and unexpectedly. I don't know the details but I know he had 2 kittens that he loved dearly. He adopted them at 6 weeks old from our local humane society and a few weeks later they both tested positive for leukemia. He had fallen in love with them and decided to keep them, so they have been in a loving home since September. Now that the son has passed, the poor boys have no home. The family called about taking them to our humane society and they said they would euthanize them. The family is devastated and just wants to find a home for these 2 cats. I am pregnant and have lost my job because of being so sick and there is just no way I can add 2 more to my batch right now. I have been in bed sick for the past 18 weeks and can't even think about introducing 2 cats right now. I feel awful for this family and for these cats that are so sweet and full of life. I know it is a long shot but can anybody take them? I would help set up transport to get them to a new home. Amy Weygandt Woof Wagon www.woofwagon.com
anyone ever checked out this place in Va.?
Rikkis Refuge in Orange, VA - their webiste www.rikkisrefuge.org Was wondering if anyone here has ever heard anything about this place? now searching for placement for 8! cats from gassing pound in Georgia. (they came in at all different times and have been housed in secondary building but with more intake of cats and kitten season coming up soon, they need the spaces these cats are taking up.) thanks, Barbara
Re: question bout kittens....
i blame myself for letting Jelly Roll come into contact with Lenny (who tested postive) when they were kittens(3-4 weeks old). even tho Lenny died under 1 yr old, Jelly lived two plus years but crappy virus still got the best of him. keep them separated. I loved lenny but I hate myself for what happened to Jelly Roll. barbara - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FeLVTalk FeLVTalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:16 PM Subject: question bout kittens okay, group, need opinions here. i currently am the estrogen zone for my part of the state--turned my front room (formerly cat-free space, for doing crafts) into a nursery. four condo cages, one floor-to-ceiling cat tree, scratching posts, lots of toys, etc. 3 big windows, a/c, their own bathroom (well, their own close-by water supply, at least!). i currently have four nursing moms, and 24 kittens. (21 biological kittens and 3 orphans). all the moms are negative, so i'm assuming the kittens are as well. i've been asked to take in 2 two-week-old orphans. i'm wondering how everyone defines, PROLONGED, PERSISTENT CONTACT--ie, do you think that nursing for another couple of weeks would be enough to pass the virus? i WILL test the kittens if i get them, but they're so young i'm not sure i'll trust the results.). or should i just bottle-feed them and keep them separated? (just heard from the woman who has them, and they're not doing a bottle very well--a momcat and sibkits to cuddle with might be much better for them, but of course i don't want to harm the other kittens) thoughts, please! thanks -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Pls help increase awareness knowing wrong things about FIV+ cats
sounds good to me. it's been such an uphill battle just with felv+. just a nitpick. you wrote vegetarians, you do mean veterinarians, right? and if you do mean veterinarians, i would think such a paper would be very time consuming because of the research involved.(years) and take a long time to get published. I keep meaning to print up a list of websites with felv+ info to give out to my vets because I get so many phone calls from them whenever another patient's cat tests positive and they need someone to talk to. a list of fiv+ sites would be good also. again the problem is if the vets are old school or just don't want to be bothered, they might not even want to be bothered giving out this kind of info to their clients because their clients would then seek a different vet's help in taking care of their cats which translates as a loss of income to the first vet. has any magazine like Cat Fancy done any articles on fiv lately? I know Angel's Gate founder recently published a book think it's called Getting Lucky--dont' know what the contents are. She might have contacts tho or suggestions. (i forget who it is on the list recently brought a cat there). also Denise Flaim at Newsday here on Long Island also published a book last year I believe. she has a weekly pet column--maybe write her to ask to do an article on fiv. (i don't get newsday anymore--no time to read!) Or google other pet columnists for other area newspapers to hit them up. i will ask a local rescue for the info on fiv's. I know of one cat. barbara - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: FW: Pls help increase awareness "knowing wrong things about FIV+ cats" Please let me know if you have any suggestions or thought or do you think its a damn idea? Hideyo From: Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:11 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: Pls help increase awareness "knowing wrong things about FIV+ cats" Since I have been on this list, I have learned a lot about wrong doings of how FIV+ cats have been treated everywhere in the world due to the misconception and lack of knowledge or knowing wrong information I am aware that there have been and are going to be many many FIV+cats who have been and are going to be euthanized just because they tested positive (whether its false or right information) I am not sure what the best way to do about it but we have what we call living examples of how less threatening FIV+ cats are to FIV negatives and how normal life FIV+ can live for a long time and wanted to somehow make some social movements on FIV cats so that FIV cats are treated better at the shelters, rescue groups, and by vets, clinics, and by individual who found out their (new or existing cats) are tested positive Again, I am not sure how to go about it because anything that is published publicly needs to come from a vegetarian, but wanted to compile the information by gathering your experience and present them somehow so that this information are going to be spread via a vegetarian conference or published via pet magazines, newsletters or etc ..I am thinking of sending an email to Dr. Addie (who does research at Univ of Glasgow she has dedicated last two decades on FIP cats but she might have an idea as to which doctor might be supportive of this idea I also thought of contacting to Dr. Yamamoto (I think thats her name) who discovered the virus in 1986 and to see if she has any suggestions or she can help somehow based on our experience. Anyway, I want to do something to protect lives of FIV+ kitties in the world if anyone (even if you have done so already) can you send me the information as to how many and how long FIV+ cats (and negatives) you have and how long they have been integrated, and whether they have been transmitted or not (and the date of the last test done of negatives) and health status of FIV cats (we believe the FIV status does not have any averse affect on their life span and I would like to advocate this fact also Please let me know what you think of the idea and any information you might be able to help. Thank you Hideyo
Re: [FivCats] I need placement help for Domino
what's with this 'wet food increases tartar and placque' statement ? and where is that woman her "sanctuary" in westchester? that place sounds to me like anther angel's wings in the making situation. can we find out where that house is and ask to have it investigated? even if just by another rescue so that in case it is okay rather than reporting her first to aspca who would remove animals because she's over the legal limit. barbara - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:09 PM Subject: FW: [FivCats] I need placement help for Domino Please allow me to cross post this in case you can help- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of siberskiiSent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:32 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [FivCats] I need placement help for Domino Some of you may remember me from last month. I have MS and now Domino has had 2 Western blots (the 2d was just done at Cornell), both with FIV+ results. Domino has been a strictly indoor cat, has a dog companion (our Golden), my kids and us. She only eats Nutro dry food, which is probably why her teeth and gums are in such good shape. I have read with interest the various postings here re: people with Lupus, HIV+ etc., who have FIV+ cats. The bottom line is that for those of us who are immune-compromised, there are no definitive answers about our risks with FIV+ cats. Joel posted here a little while ago about the spread of bacteria between people and cats; others have written about cat scratch disease being transmitted to humans. Unless you are immune compromsed, no one really can tell the those of us who are, whether it's worth the risk to keep an FIV+ cat around or not, or whether there's a risk at all. It's a complete gamble.I previously posted that I am not willing to take the gamble, not with my health. Too many doctors have been wrong about my disease, its progression, the drugs I've taken for MS their side effects; I can't take the word of fellow kitty-lovers about FIV+ if my own human docs, the two vets I've seen the Cornell Feline Health Clinic have question marks about this. So yes, I decided that I needed to place Domino elsewhere for both our sakes.I contacted the rescue group where we got Domino. They connected me to a lady nearby, in Westchester County, NY where I live. She has 17 FIV+ cats. Eight are upstairs with a dominant female, 9 are downstairs in runs or cages because they either spray or are too timid to use their litter boxes (at least acc to the lady). She feeds them all a little wet food to keep them "hydrated" (what happened to water?), which we all know increases tarter and plaque, as well as dry food. She has told me that many of her cats have had theirteeth pulled, and that some are completely toothless. She also told me that she has litter boxes all over the house, that some cats sleep on her bed, on pillows or selsewhere, and that she keeps mountans of amoxicillin around. She also has two small gogs plus a German Shepherd. She became angry when I asked if I could inspect the premises, telling me that I was being insulting to her, and she said that the only thing I could see or do at her house (which I can't, since her house isn't accessible) would be to put Domino in what she described as a large dog-sized cage in the kitchen to say goodbye. Then Domino would remain in the cage for a full month while the other cats got used to her and vice versa. Apart from my discompfort with all the above, it seems only logical to me that with so many FIV+ cats around, the chances of spreading illness, viruses and bacteria increases exponentially, thereby increasing the rish to all the cats. Needless to say, I am not inclined to place Domino with this lady.But I need to place Domino somewhere - not in a foster home, not with a resue group or a shelter, but in a permanent home where she will be safe and happy without zillions of other cats around who might scare, intimidate or weaken her. I have reactivated my yahoo email, because I know that some of you were trying to get back to me last month but my yahoo e-mail got loused up somehow and the e-mails bounced. I would be most grateful if anyone here would be willing to take in Domino, age 1 1/2, black tuxedo cat with greenish eyes, asymptomatic now, companionable but not an "in your face" cat, loves water, especially out of people glasses with ice! and likes her ears rubbed. If anyone is relatively close to us, and would allow my daughters to call for the first few months or whatever to check on how Domino's doing, since they're heart-broken too, maybe even more than me, I'd appreciate hearing from you.Gratefuly and
OT: sorry if repeating myself but never saw this email go thru/anyone in Florida Okeechobee area?
never saw my first email get to the group so asking again. need to check out a "rescue" in the Lake Okeechobee area-anyone know anyone there that could even just drive by to see if this is a hoarder situatin or really a rescue? my friend who donates-was sent articles that the pound had been closed due to horrendous practices so people keep dumping animals on this one woman "rescue" thanks for any help. barbara
Re: OT: sorry if repeating myself but never saw this email gothru/anyone in Florida Okeechobee area?
thanks. i never saw a single one. I should have known something was up as i didnt' have one single email for over 6 hours. - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:25 PM Subject: Re: OT: sorry if repeating myself but never saw this email gothru/anyone in Florida Okeechobee area? there were a number of answers yesterday, barbara! mine was: i have friends in siamese rescue down there who might have info/be able to help research it. other folks had other options. On 6/16/05, Barbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: never saw my first email get to the group so asking again. need to check out a rescue in the Lake Okeechobee area-anyone know anyone there that could even just drive by to see if this is a hoarder situatin or really a rescue? my friend who donates-was sent articles that the pound had been closed due to horrendous practices so people keep dumping animals on this one woman rescue thanks for any help. barbara -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
OT: does anyone live near okeechobee florida that could check out a rescue for me?
just curious if anyone on list is in florida area? a friend of a friend has been sending $ to a rescue there but never saw it. and after the Angels Wings fiasco, figured better check it out. thanks for reading. barbara
Fw: [Volunteers] Fwd: Re: Signature Confirmation - Defenseless Victims:Chained And Tethered Dogs - 3 - 2976
anyone in the NY area-could you sign this petition and forward to any friends who are in NY. thank you! barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone: A friend at the shelter is looking to get this passed. Please take a moment to sign the petition. A law banning chaining dogs is so very badly needed. Linda http://www.PetitionOnline.com/2976/
Re: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad/Kat
what a great story, Kat. and thank god for angels on earth like you! barbara - Original Message - From: Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 3:42 PM Subject: RE: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad Hi Hideyo, Teresa says he'll be okay where he is until I get there. (actually, they still aren't sure he's a he yet) and I will end up keeping him as long as the rest of the crew warms up to him. I will have my vet check him over and test for FIV/FeLV and then I'll see how well he does with the crew. It won't be the first kitten I've rescued - last year I rescued a tiny little black boy from a co-worker's back yard - named him Solo since he was the only kitten (mom was a feral). He was born without his upper eyeLIDS, and when my vet neutered him, she did some cosmetic surgery and formed eyelids out of some extra skin below each eye. Now he thinks he's just the cutest little Cat's Meow... Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 13:29:22 -0600 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad Kat, you are so wonderful I got goose bumps when I saw your posting - Will you be able to take care of him or what is the plan for this little guy? Can Teresa keep him an indoor until Sunday so that nothing will happen to him? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 1:29 PM To: FeLV Talk List [New] Subject: Re: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad Hi Belinda, all - I just spoke with Teresa on the phone, and will be meeting up with her on Sunday to pick up the little blind kitten. I live in Northern NJ, so it's really not that far for me. I'll post more after Sunday. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Belinda Sauro wrote: Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:42:27 -0700 From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: FeLV Talk List [New] felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: OT: PLEASE can ANYONE help - Blind Kitten Very Sad Please forward and cross-post to anyone you think might be able to help, thank you -- I am looking for a special home for a blind kitten. He was unfortunately born with no eyes. His mom tends to ignore him to care for her other kitten his litter mate is off playing with the others. He is a barn cat and unfortunately I just can't take him in right now. I already have 4 of my own my hubby would shoot me if I brought home another one. The kitten is starting to wander it's heart breaking to see him bumping into things. He wanders around the horses when we aren't there I'm afraid he is going to be stepped on. This little guy just needs someone to give him alittle extra TLC so he can adapt to this world he cannot see. I would prefer an indoor home so he is sheltered from the Big Outdoors If I can't find him a home, I am going to have to have him humanely euthanized, which I am prepared to do, but would like to see him in a loving home instead. Please contact me if you or someone you know is willing to offer this little guy a home. He is located in NY 607-767-1073 or 607-271-3141 Thank You Teresa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: 6 week old kitten fever question
sending this link to the fever archives on www.holisticat.com http://www.holisticat.com/fever_arch1.html kittens that are negative often run mysterious fevers--does she still have diarrhea? i'm glad she's eating and drinking. is she active at all? or is she just sleeping? it is scary when they run that high a temp in one so young and postive also. hopefully her body is fighting something hence the fever. does she look anemic at all? did the vet mention anything about getting blood work done? wish i could help more. barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 9:47 AM Subject: 6 week old kitten fever question Hello all- sorry I been inactive lately just a reader I guess you would call me :( I have a slightly urgent question...I just adopted a 6-7week old felv pos kitten, and of course she came with a fever. It was 104.0 the night I brought her home. I don't know if you'all remember that I work at a vet so thankfully I was able to start her on SQ fluids right away, the doc told me to hold of on antibiotics because she has diarrhea. This was Tuesday night. Well by Thursday her fever had not broken and I brought her to work with me, the doc then started her on amoxicillin and meloxicam (an anti-inflammatory and fever reducer), her temp still has not broken and at 4 am (last night) she spiked to 105.8!!! I could not give her any further meds because she had them at 11pm. I put her to bed on a soft ice pack and slept with her the rest of the night. This AM she is down to 103.2, better but still too scary for me. Obviously she has something else going on besides just a fever. I have a call in to my doc (again thank god I work there because its Sunday!) In the meantime I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas...experience with this type of fever...tips...anything? Also, at what temperature does there body shut down ? I can't find any reference to when a high temp would be critical anywhere. Oh yeah she is eating and drinking on her own, and she has NO other signs of illness. Thank you so much in advance for anything anybody can offer, Kristi
Re: fever down!
keep thinking postively that her temp is down!!! barbara
Re: Re: Vitamin C questions
belfield's is powder--it's the one i had mr. bean on the postive who is now negative. if you google belfield and mega C plus i believe the company is orthomological or somethiing like that. it's too darn hot to walk back downstairs again. they ship very quickly. barbara
Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq/please read!!!!
please first contact bonnie at the www.militarymascots.org website. organizations like hers really advise against such action as it only leads to more operations like vector control I believe it is called--and more dogs and cats are killed in roundups with such reasons as rabies, etc given. A case like this would be different is it was stateside but this happened way out of the public's eye and away from constant monitoring. yes it was horrible but you don't want a backlash where some brass says, just get rid of all the damn mutts already so there's no publicity period. - Original Message - From: BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:18 AM Subject: Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq I would pass it on to anyone who loves animals. Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, June 9, 2005 8:34 pm Subject: Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq I wonder who we should contact? Senators/reps? news media? t BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://usmilitarykillsdogs.allsupportgroup.info/ www.elephants.com
Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq/please read!!!!
oops make that , a case like this would be different IF it was stateside... - Original Message - From: Barbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:48 AM Subject: Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq/please read please first contact bonnie at the www.militarymascots.org website. organizations like hers really advise against such action as it only leads to more operations like vector control I believe it is called--and more dogs and cats are killed in roundups with such reasons as rabies, etc given. A case like this would be different is it was stateside but this happened way out of the public's eye and away from constant monitoring. yes it was horrible but you don't want a backlash where some brass says, just get rid of all the damn mutts already so there's no publicity period. - Original Message - From: BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:18 AM Subject: Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq I would pass it on to anyone who loves animals. Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, June 9, 2005 8:34 pm Subject: Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq I wonder who we should contact? Senators/reps? news media? t BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://usmilitarykillsdogs.allsupportgroup.info/ www.elephants.com
Re: Please Help!! 2 17y old healthy cats...NY
i would be very leary of any retirement program
north shore has because as I recall, they also try to find homes for these
retired pets--so in essence, you the owner might pay thousands of dollars to
have your pet retire to a supposedly safe environment however if north shore
adopts it out to someone, they're not monitoring what happens to the pet
afterwards, are they? Bide a Wee in Wantagh NY i believe it is, has
a retirement home and they keep the animals there forever.
barbara
- Original Message -
From:
Chris
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:57
AM
Subject: RE: Please Help!! 2 17y old
healthy cats...NY
He could try Angels
Gate which is near him. Also, North Shore does have a
retirement plan for animals but it does cost some. How does he know they
are 17 if he took them off the street a few years ago?
Chris
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:19
AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Please Help!! 2 17y old healthy
cats...NY
anyone know of a
retirement home for 2?
I live
in Astoria, Queens NY. I took the cats off the streets a few years ago;
abandoned in a cardboard box. I have severe health concerns and my energy is
nil.
Thanks
Richard
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Tue, 7 Jun 2005 20:21:40 -0400 "rjmondello" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Hi,
My name is
Richard Mondello and I have two adult cats that I can't find a home for.
They are 17 but in very good health. I will be moving infour weeks
and my new home will not allow pets. Can you direct me to a place
where the cats would not be put down? I am prepared to make a donation for
help. As stated, the cats are in good health, declawed and very friendly.
I've contacted some organizations but have been told that adult cats are
difficult to place.
Thanks for your
time,
Richard
To you, it's just a
temporary gift of a bit of space and some extra food~ to him it is the
immeasurable gift of life!~ Never underestimate the importance of
fostering!('')
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Re: Left my view about the military
maybe i missed a post, where did you leave your view? barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:04 PM Subject: Left my view about the military I have just left my views about the military issue - hope they choke on it too - that it so horrendous - the amount of fear those poor dogs must have felt is just to heartbreaking to consider. My transfer factor has arrived today so I have given Bramble one straight away. His pupils have started to react to light again today but I don't know how long for. Thankyou every one for your support and guidance - I am not giving up on the little man yet - all your efforts are very much appreciated. Fingers crossed still. Michelle
Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq
if you go to the military mascots page and read the stories about some of the mascots, it's even more heartbreaking when some military brass then vetoes an animal being shipped stateside when the necessary money has been raised. it costs big bucks to bring an animal back-the vet bills, transport, etc--and remember the military is not paid big bucks. barbara - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:41 AM Subject: Re: OT: US military killing dogs in Iraq I am sick and weeping for those dogs.BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://usmilitarykillsdogs.allsupportgroup.info/www.elephants.com Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bronx Nuns Seek Extermination of 8 Year Old Cat Colony - O.T.
how depressing. and one might ask them how they expect to get rid of the rats that will return once these cats are gone? Prayer? barbara
Re: suggestion
I might also suggest -how to put this?--a warning about vets who claim to be alternative medical vets/holistic etc.there's a vet operating out of the Animal Wellness center here on Long Island who is not very good -in fact, was brought to the area by a pet store around the corner from him to administer to all the sickly puppies they sell from puppy mills. Before I realized this guy's scam, I once tried to tell a young couple inhis waiting room who had just bought a puppy that their new purchase had kennel cough and mange! the receptionist started shaking her head at me and went to talk to the vet. when it was my turn to go into waitiing room with a sick kitty, he proceeded to lecture me on how "we" are not there to lecture people on their choices of pets but to help cure them. I argued that they had just bought the darn thing and should go get another. he did proscribe all sorts of holistic meds for a felv+ kitten I had but did not explain the proper way to administer them -that I later learned from reading on holisticat site---and pushed a raw diet but not a word about proper necessarysupplements. after three different visits and witnessing many other such incidents with the puppies from the pet store, i realized this was not a good vet. sure his office bulletin board has glowing testimonials from some patients however the whole picture just did not add up. barbara - Original Message - From: Barb Moermond To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:10 AM Subject: Re: suggestion http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=display_subcategory_id=113website=defaultsession=42a1277e1ec09d81 This is a link to FELV/FIV friendly vets and you can add to it - you have to register, but it's free and it's on Belinda's site. They are listed by state or all in a group. I listed my vet clinic (Cat Care Clinic in Madison WI).stany petrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Thanks for your warm emails for Jersey. I am going to print all of them on one page, put it in a plastic folder and attach iton the tree next tohis grave inside the forest. This will also help me torecognise the place in the winter. I read the Rainbow Bridge poem that Barbara sent me and try to believe this is a true. I am also waiting for a message from Jersey about a new cat... Imiss him a lot. As a typical British Shorthair he used to come to the door every time I entered and I feel awful now. My big lesson from that case and the last emails about Sebastian is that not all vets are experienced as I thought before. Some of them are and some are not. I don't know how many people are in the forum but hopefully we cover half of the states. We might make a list with the qualified vets for each state based onpersonalexperience. In case somebody needs a FeLV vet the name can be pulled from the record. It is helpful because not everybody is available at anytime but the list can be online 24/7. This is just a suggestion. I will stay in the forum and try to help if I can. Stan Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Please add my sister's cat Hamish to the Candlelight Service
Hamish was a 12 year old part Maine Coone cat with a big heart and a big appetite. Even though he loved to roam in her backyard he never killed any birds. thank you. Barbara
Re: Please add my sister's cat Hamish to the Candlelight Service
thank you.I will let her know. actually I got the age wrong. good ole Hamish was 14 1/2 yrs old. - Original Message - From: Terri Brown To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: Re: Please add my sister's cat Hamish to the Candlelight Service My sincerest condolences to your sister. Goodnight, sweet Hamish... =^..^= Terri, Salome', Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, and 5 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My FeLV Site: http://pages.ivillage.com/ruthiegirl1/MyFeLVinformationSite/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Barbara Lowe To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Please add my sister's cat Hamish to the Candlelight Service Hamish was a 12 year old part Maine Coone cat with a big heart and a big appetite. Even though he loved to roam in her backyard he never killed any birds. thank you. Barbara
Re: Jersey_question
try posting the question on www.petfinder.org website. they have bulletin boards where you can post about various topics and as I recall there is a health board so maybe if you put in your subject header-looking for great vet in Toledo Ohio--you might get some responses. Sometimes too it just takes a little aggressiveness on the pet owner's part to jumpstart a vet into action. call the vet's office and ask to speak to the vet you saw over the phone and state your case as Tracy suggested. (no need to make an appt to just state your determination.) If the vet says they can't help, then ask them to recommend a specialist. oh, also on petfinder site you can type in your zip code under rescue and shelter search and it'll bring up a list of rescues in your area. you could try calling any cat rescue that has special needs kitties and ask them for a vet reference. good luck. praying hard for Jersey. Barbara - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: Re: Jersey_question Tracy, I will definitely make Jersey an indoor cat because he has FeLV+ and I care for the cats as a whole. To be honest, it is hard to get a professional vet without recs. The hospital I took Jersey was professional but they are very pessimistic and expensive also (I already paid there 400 for 2visits). Once Iget him successfuly on his back legs I will start looking for a professional in the FeLV. My zip codeis 43607 (Toledo,OH, Detroit, MI).So, if anybody knows a qualified vetin radius 100- 150miles, plase let me know. thanks again for the non- stopping assistance. StanFrom: "Weese, Tracy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Jersey_questionDate: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:47:43 -0400I don't know how long this will take, but I have been reading your messages about Jersey and am hoping that he can recover.I do feel strongly that you should consider making in an indoor only cat considering his FeLV+ status and now this issue with his legs.I know people think this will be so hard on the cat, but I have taken several cats of various ages from farms and alleys and they have done just fine.It will be an adjustment at first.Maybe you have already done this and I'm just reading the messages which talk about when he was living in NYC.In any event.I hope he does get better. 2 cans of baby food is a lot more than many folks can get into their sick cats.And do try to find a vet that is a little more aggressive.Once you make it clear that you are not going to PTS just bec. a cat is FeLV+, then often the vet will get on board.Too often people just give up and so vets never really have to treat a FeLV+ cat beyond diagnosis.Tracy- Original Message -From: stany petrovTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: 5/29/2005 8:31:31 PMSubject: Re: Jersey_questionhi again,One question for the weak back legs?How long does it usually takes to make the cat use his/ her back legs again?2- 3 days, week, 10 days?thanks in advanceStan
Re: Jersey_question
just wondering if you saw these two on the felineleukemia website. never having been to Ohio i have no clue if they are close or far but maybe you could call them to see if they can recommend anyone nearer to you? Dr. Michele Messner and Dr. Julie Brown HeroldCreekside Animal Clinic4434 Akron/Wadsworth Road.Norton, Ohio 44203Phones. 330-334-5891 or 330-336-8873The Ohio State UniversityCollege of Veterinary Medicine101 Sisson Hall, 1900 Coffey RoadColumbus OH 43210Telephone: (614) 292-1171Fax: (614) 292-7185http://www.vet.ohio-state.edu/docs/ - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: Re: Jersey_question Tracy, I will definitely make Jersey an indoor cat because he has FeLV+ and I care for the cats as a whole. To be honest, it is hard to get a professional vet without recs. The hospital I took Jersey was professional but they are very pessimistic and expensive also (I already paid there 400 for 2visits). Once Iget him successfuly on his back legs I will start looking for a professional in the FeLV. My zip codeis 43607 (Toledo,OH, Detroit, MI).So, if anybody knows a qualified vetin radius 100- 150miles, plase let me know. thanks again for the non- stopping assistance. StanFrom: "Weese, Tracy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Jersey_questionDate: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:47:43 -0400I don't know how long this will take, but I have been reading your messages about Jersey and am hoping that he can recover.I do feel strongly that you should consider making in an indoor only cat considering his FeLV+ status and now this issue with his legs.I know people think this will be so hard on the cat, but I have taken several cats of various ages from farms and alleys and they have done just fine.It will be an adjustment at first.Maybe you have already done this and I'm just reading the messages which talk about when he was living in NYC.In any event.I hope he does get better. 2 cans of baby food is a lot more than many folks can get into their sick cats.And do try to find a vet that is a little more aggressive.Once you make it clear that you are not going to PTS just bec. a cat is FeLV+, then often the vet will get on board.Too often people just give up and so vets never really have to treat a FeLV+ cat beyond diagnosis.Tracy- Original Message -From: stany petrovTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: 5/29/2005 8:31:31 PMSubject: Re: Jersey_questionhi again,One question for the weak back legs?How long does it usually takes to make the cat use his/ her back legs again?2- 3 days, week, 10 days?thanks in advanceStan
Re: Jersey
just a thought, i give one of my cats (who is negative for leuekmia) postassium citrate to ward off any more bouts of his oxalate crystals. the other cats get MegaC plus but that's not advised for oxalate. I buy it in capsule form and fortunately this cat, Puff, loves those Pill Pockets i get at the pet store so can just hide the pill in that. the other cats' meds I just open the capsules and mix in their wet food very very thoroughly. what are some natural sources of potassium besides bananas? and would a cat even eat a banana or is it even good for them? another thought, how long has jersey been in your care? did you tell the vet his past history-outdoor cat, possible exposure to raccoons, etc? when you got him, was he able to walk/run around? or was he already slowing down? what is that disease raccoons supposedly transmit that the vets advise getting vaccinations for? if it affects dogs, does it also pertain to cats? Is this cat even getting up to use the litter box? sorry Jersey's legs are not improving. regards Barbara - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:34 AM Subject: Re: Jersey Hi Stan, Jersey's potassium is low, he needs some potassium, your vet should have told you that, I'm sorry but as long as your seeing this vet Jersey is in serious trouble.
Re: Jersey
and after reading the starving cat posts, maybe getting nutra-cal into Jersey might be a good idea? - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:34 AM Subject: Re: Jersey Hi Stan, Jersey's potassium is low, he needs some potassium, your vet should have told you that, I'm sorry but as long as your seeing this vet Jersey is in serious trouble. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Jersey
the coincidence today--while walking my dog around my neighborhood--another neighbor came up to warn me he recently had to take his dog to the ER for treatment for the raccoon caused disease--and the dog's symptoms sound alot like Jersey's. the disease sounds like lepto-something. also the drinking lots of water losing weight also sounds like cushing's disease that my dog from years ago had. no cure but there is treatment. I am so sorry Jersey is not doing well. barbara - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Re: Jersey Barbara, I have Jersey from the semi- beginning when he was a baby. I just learned him to walk outside and get home. I lived in Brooklyn for 1 and a halfyears before I moved to Ohio. Here, he was fine till late January when he started sneezing and one of his eyes got red. The temp. was high. I took him toa vet (another one) twice. He put some shots and gave him antibiotics. Jersey got better but not exactly as before. The temp. was about 102.4- 102.5 and I let him out again. He likes hiking and if I lock the cat door he is starting to meow and scratch and tear the things around him. So, that was in March. And finally in late April, early May he started going outside and stay home which is not a good indicator for him. Finally he started loosing weight and walking hard with his back legs. I will stop visiting this vet and try to feed him more but...I hardly think he will survive. His kidneys are a little bit arger than the normal and he has the symptom of the Polysyst Kidney disease- drinking lots of water and loosing weight and appetite. I am confused. He cannot move at all already (just for a week, unbelievable). Thanks again StanFrom: Barbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: JerseyDate: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:58:42 -0400just a thought, i give one of my cats (who is negative for leuekmia)postassium citrate to ward off any more bouts of his oxalate crystals. theother cats get MegaC plus but that's not advised for oxalate. I buy it incapsule form and fortunately this cat, Puff, loves those Pill Pockets i getat the pet store so can just hide the pill in that. the other cats' meds Ijust open the capsules and mix in their wet food very very thoroughly.what are some natural sources of potassium besides bananas? and would a cateven eat a banana or is it even good for them?another thought, how long has jersey been in your care? did you tell the vethis past history-outdoor cat, possible exposure to raccoons, etc? when yougot him, was he able to walk/run around? or was he already slowing down?what is that disease raccoons supposedly transmit that the vets advisegetting vaccinations for? if it affects dogs, does it also pertain to cats?Is this cat even getting up to use the litter box?sorry Jersey's legs are not improving.regardsBarbara- Original Message -From: "Belinda Sauro" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 12:34 AMSubject: Re: Jersey Hi Stan, Jersey's potassium is low, he needs some potassium, your vet should have told you that, I'm sorry but as long as your seeing this vet Jersey is in serious trouble.
Re: Jenn/your posts-a question
this worked for me and no dark background either. thanks. barbara
Re: Jersey
sorry. I have no experience with CRF or Jersey's problem of weak back legs. what do the cat owners on the CRF say? has anyone there offered any helpful info or suggestions? Have you asked your vet for referral to a specialist(if you can afford the vet fees?)---don't be worried about hurting your vet's feelings in asking to discuss Jersey with another vet. has anyone on the CRF list recommended a vet in your area? why did the vet suggest euthanasia? It has been discussed on this list before I believe--the reasons for considering being a beloved pet to sleep. hopefully someone else can post them for you--i just got back from a platelets donation so kinda tired. also many of us have our own personal criteria for judging when an animal is no longer enjoying life. frankly if your cat is eating, I would consider that a good sign. is he getting nutrients from the food--when my dog had cancer, her bowel movements were proof her food was not being digested properly adding to her weakened condition. is Jersey able to have movements? is he able to get around on his own at all? someone on the CRF group should be able to recommend a form of phosphorus for your cat. A cat testing postive for feline leukemia is not reason enough to put to sleep an animal though sadly many vets still feel that because their training has been that the pet will die anyway sooner or later. Not knowing why you selected this particular vet I can offer no answer if the vet is qualified. was the vet recommended to you? is there perhaps a veterinary school in your state? can you ask your vet to explain better what she means by the problem is somewhere between the kidneys? perhaps there might be some info on the www.holisticat.com website. I believe the founder of the site-her cat was crf also. there is an archive you can look through--and also a mailing list to join if you so desire to ask questions and for help. good luck. remember to enjoy your time with Jersey and not worry yourself all the time so that you lose what time you have with him. I know it's easier said than done but allow yourself time to just love your pet. barbara - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Jersey I have bad news form the vet. she said the problem was somewhere beteen the kidneys. I am confused. Is the leukimia really causing everything or the doctor cannot find the reason? Yestereday he was eating good and looked good. Are the doctors really qualified enough? She offered me euthanesia. I am not going to accept, but I am very confused. What might cause the deficiency in the back legs if not the kidney CRF??? Stan
Jenn/your posts-a question
Hi Jenn, i don't know if it's just me(and getting older) but the dark background and small type is hard to read. can you change your font(is that the right word?) (or computer illiterate me--is there a way I can change it?) thanks, barbara
Re: Jersey
usually insurance does not cover pre-existing conditions from what I remember of my research of insurance for pets. did the insurance require your cat have a full exam before approval or did the insurance co. just take your money? if you didn't know jersey had leukemia until after you purchased the insurance then it might be covered. you have to read the fine print on those insurance policies. when you say you chose the vet from the list, I'm guessing you mean the insurance co. gave you a list of vets? I'd follow Jen's very good suggestions as to how to quiz a vet on their feelings towards leukemia. good luck barbara - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Jersey Thanks a lot Barbara. I just chose the vet from the list. I can afford to pay let's say 500- 600. By the way, I have a pet insuarance but it is from a month ago. I don't know if they cover past diseases? Does anybody know about that? I mean, insuarance companies have lots of protection. I am going to talk with another vet probably. He is moving hard, but can walk to the litterbox. I am picking him today and keep feeding him with the baby food... Stan From: Barbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: JerseyDate: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:51:52 -0400sorry. I have no experience with CRF or Jersey's problem of weak back legs. what do the cat owners on the CRF say? has anyone there offered any helpful info or suggestions?Have you asked your vet for referral to a specialist(if you can afford the vet fees?)---don't be worried about hurting your vet's feelings in asking to discuss Jersey with another vet. has anyone on the CRF list recommended a vet in your area?why did the vet suggest euthanasia?It has been discussed on this list before I believe--the reasons for considering being a beloved pet to sleep. hopefully someone else can post them for you--i just gotback from a platelets donation so kinda tired. also many of us have our own personal criteria for judging when an animal is no longer enjoying life. frankly if your cat is eating, I would consider that a good sign. is he getting nutrients from the food--when my dog had cancer, her bowel movements were proof her food was not being digested properly adding to her weakened condition. is Jersey able to have movements? is he able to get around on his own at all?someone on the CRF group should be able to recommend a form of phosphorus for your cat. A cat testing postive for feline leukemia is not reason enough to put to sleep an animal though sadly many vets still feel that because their training has been that the pet will die anyway sooner or later.Not knowing why you selected this particular vet I can offer no answer if the vet is qualified. was the vet recommended to you?is there perhaps a veterinary school in your state?can you ask your vet to explain better what she means by the problem is somewhere between the kidneys?perhaps there might be some info on the www.holisticat.com website. I believe the founder of the site-her cat was crf also. there is an archive you can look through--and also a mailing list to join if you so desire to ask questions and for help.good luck. remember to enjoy your time with Jersey and not worry yourself all the time so that you lose what time you have with him. I know it's easier said than done but allow yourself time to just love your pet.barbara - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Jersey I have bad news form the vet. she said the problem was somewhere beteen the kidneys. I am confused. Is the leukimia really causing everything or the doctor cannot find the reason? Yestereday he was eating good and looked good. Are the doctors really qualified enough? She offered me euthanesia. I am not going to accept, but I am very confused. What might cause the deficiency in the back legs if not the kidney CRF??? Stan
Re: Digby has passed ....
I am so sorry and angry that another beautiful fur child has succumbed to this crappy unfair virus. I wish you peace and comfort in your memories of Digby. regards Barbara
Re: Jersey
was just about to sign off for the night then saw your question on transfusions. i had 2 different experiences with blood transfusions. one was with a less than year old cat with leukemia and it was two days before xmas. Lenny(the cat) perhaps had a week of quality life with us before we had to let her be put to sleep. the 2nd cat Jelly Roll again perhaps a week or two before he also crashed. I would not have traded that time with them for anything. I am surprised at how cheap your vet says a transfusion is. perhaps because I am in NY where it just seems everything is just so damnexpensive. I would make sure the vet types your cat's blood. it must get a matching blood type--I forget if there's a subgroup to cat's blood--I just know my second cat had a very rare blood type. I know others on the list had also had blood transfusions for their cats and can give their opinions. I'd still go for a second opinion if you do not feel this vet is up to date on treatment of leukemia. again good luck and good night, thank you for caring for Jersey. I know how stressful it can be. barbara
Re: Worried about Michelle
oh my gosh, I am so sorry, Michelle. We are so lucky we get to love so many beautiful wonderful creatures in our lifetime but it doesn't make it any easier when they cross the bridge. I pray that you find solace in the memory of their spirits. Barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: Re: Worried about Michelle Fern died on Sunday, the same day as Pepsi. Thank you for your concern. Michelle In a message dated 5/26/05 9:02:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I. too have been worried about Michelle, Poor girl, having to face so MANY abdolutely terrible illness/diseases with her babies.. And losing Prpsi. I jusy pray Ginger is improving and Fern, is gomfortable. too many major health issues going on. Mu heart goes out to her and her furkids, and I continure to pray. Patti
Re: Jersey
Hello, I assume your vet ran a complete blood work on Jersey which discovered the virus. How long has your cat not been eating cat food? Ask your vet for the Science Diet a/d cans. Many of the science diet canned foods are too dry-I know my cats will not eat any of it. the a/d cans are very very soft food--perhaps Jersey will like that. You can try putting some on a spoon and smearing it along the side of his mouth so he will be at least taste it and perhaps be tempted. Also baby food jars-beef, chicken, lamb might tempt Jersey to eat. make sure no onions in the ingredients. I agree with Belinda's suggestion to go to the Chronic Renal Failure CRF group for advice. How experienced is your vet with leukemia treatments? Ask if there is a specialist vet in the area? May I ask, what state are you in? perhaps someone on the list can recommend a vet. Good luck taking care of Jersey. He is lucky he found you. regards Barbara - Original Message - From: stany petrov To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Jersey Hi Belinda, Thanks for the information. I am going to take Jersey to the vet tomorrow. I took him on Friday, they kept him in the clinic for tests and the doctor called me in the evening. I was shoked to hear he has a leukimia and could hardly catch what she was explaining me. I am going to talk with her tomorrow afternoon. Now, I give Jersey some yoke and cream cheese. He rejects the diet food from the vet. He likes margarine but I use that only to give him some vitamins. I cannot believe that disease is so spread in the USA. In Bulgaria, where I come from I have never heard for cat cancer. Cats usually die from accidents or age. I am really amazed to read that 60 million cats in the US carry this virus. Something has to be done. Thanks again. Keep in touch StanFrom: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: JerseyDate: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:12:50 -0700 Hi Stan,There is a CRF (chronic renal failure) group on Yahoo you may want to join, I've heard of kitties with crf that get weak in the back legs it has something to do with the potassium level.Here is the group if your interested.CRF can be managed if caugh early enough, it usually requires a diet change and careful monitoring.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FelineCRF/Also you have to be sure Jersey is getting enough food or your asking for a whole different group of complications.What treatment has your vet suggested?--BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com(affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Mia
it costs over $100 to cremate an animal here on Long Island. I don't know of any vet that will just take a dead animal for no money. I can imagine the same $ chargein NJ. I also cannot even imagine how adrift many of the kittykind volunteers and foster homes feel right now. Hopefully someone in the group is well informed/experienced enough to regroup and get the currently fostered animals permanent homes. (does it sound funny to say that while I volunteer for a rescue group I really never wanted any human contact with them because I felt many were borderline crazy--I would just go pick up the kittens/cats that needed fostering and bring them back when there was openings. Also I knew if I stuck around the shelter, I would get conned into other chores/duties). Also because my dad was in advertising, he always always warned me never ever believe everything I read in print. I did not see any televised broadcasts of the seized animals but I know how newspapers and tv news distorts information for ratings. If I were involved with kittykind I'd be calling those same tv newspeople and asking for airtime to show the healthy foster animals still needing homes. Barbara
Re: stitch
All these little furbuddies make our lives so special. I never will understand why people are afraid to love an animal or could care less about having one in their homes. We are blessed with their love and Stitch loved you and knew he was loved. take care, Barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:02 AM Subject: Re: stitch My little buddy is gone... i never had the chance to take him home for one last play session. shortly after my arrival he became excited and was really struggling to breath. it was time for stitch to finally go to a better place. It took only 39 days from the first onset of his symptoms. in the end even the CCNU could not save him. It was a tough fight and now it is time for both of us to rest. thanks again to everyone for all their support! You have all made a huge difference
Re: Here's a nice story for you
wish you good luck with this baby crow. i have been dreading my afternoon walks with my dog because i know this is the season for nature's babies. even if i try to vary our routine, we always seem to find the half dead baby snake, birds, squirrels, etc. barbara
Re: maybe OT - article for newsletter
i had never heard of the story. here's one link to it http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:ff8NDb8RLrAJ:cats.about.com/cs/kittencare/a/freekittuns.htm+jim+willis+free+kittenshl=en - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:17 PM Subject: Re: maybe OT - article for newsletter Glo, Do you have access to Jim Willis's writings? He's got a web site. I contacted him personally a couple of years ago and he does not mind, rather he ENCOURAGES people to use his work as humane educational tools. I still give out copies of "Free Kittuns" every year during kitten season. (Like now) I usually distribute a few hundred, and that's just LOCALLY. Check his writings out. I am sure you will find something appropriate that you can use.Just prepare yourself have the kleenex available! Patti
Re: Please send prayers for my dog Fern and my horse Pepsi
I am so sorry you have so much illness affecting your beloved animals. My dog Maddy died last June from cancer so I know something of what you are going through. Your beautiful animal companions! I wish you and them comfort in the coming days. Barbara
Re: stitch
fingers crossed and praying. how much we come to love these little furballs. hoping and praying for yours. Barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: Re: stitch well stitch took a turn for the worse on sunday when his lymphoma came out of remission. he will start the ccnu if his CBC comes back with a good white blood cell count. keep your fingers crossed
Re: OT - a sort of funny cat rescue story
i had read this years ago and still howl--thanks for the link w/ the update. barbara - Original Message - From: BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 2:57 PM Subject: OT - a sort of funny cat rescue story This story is a couple of years old; a friend at work just showed it to me. http://muttcats.com/articles/garbage_disposal_cat.htm
Akira
Lisa, I am so sorry. We are never ready for their time when it comes. I hope the passing is peaceful. I am glad for you that you found her and knew such love. blessed be, Barbara
Re: Cat's Life Death - Let's make it count!!
i voted! 42% thought it was too high. we need to show those idiots! and don't you just love the dog owner's comment--dogs and cats are natural enemies... meanwhile my dog frasier has Puff Daddy sleeping against his back and Princess who got tired of waiting for me to go to bed is sleeping on top of his head instead of mine. - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro To: FeLV Talk List [New] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:06 PM Subject: OT: Cat's Life Death - Let's make it count!! Hi All, Here is an award handed out by a local judge in Seattle, even if you don't live here please vote. There's a poll on the page -- take a sec and vote so it's clear to readers that plenty of us think that a cat's life is worth at least this much.http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002268301_yofi09m.html -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger
mr. bean (my postiive who has since turned negative) started terrible drooling(and then slurping up the spittle or even more fun, shaking his head and spraying me) and could not eat even his canned food. tookhim to vet and he had terribly inflamed gums. the meds didn't help so he started pulling teeth. that's when i went online and started researching and found out about stomatitis and leukemia. told the vet test him and sure enough, he ws postiive. the teeth pulling helped along with the med antirobe aquadrops-liquid clindamycin hydrochloride. i also started him on megaC plus and vit e, a and d, my chinese alt. med vet had him on immune booster pills and oh heck i forget what the white powder stuff was called but i got it from glyconutrients co. online when discovered it much cheaper there. I am so sorry you are having so much stress now worrying about all your beloved animals. wish I was closer so could help somehow. the teeth problem could also be making her nauseous which might account for lack of appetite. did you look thru the www.holisticat.com archives for any help? regards Barbara I am hoping this all just has to do with her mouth and can be resolved, but I really am worried. **Has anyone had a cat with dental disease completely stop eating and do the lip licking thing when you try to give food???*** Thanks, Michelle
Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger
going thru my cat care books. one mentions Biodent-a good general nutritional supplement to benefit the mouth.a human product but vet can order. contains bone meal, carrot powder, spleen and other nutrients that create a healthier chemisty in tissue of mouth. takes time to work. for inflamed gums, the topical application of an herbal combinatin called Echinacea-goldenseal supreme by gaia herbs-saurate a Q tip with the liquid and run along gum line once a day or if condition severe, twice a day. (tho as I recall, echinacea made my cats foam at mouth...the taste.) anitra frzier mentions an herbal remedy to soothe and heal sore and bleeding gums--add 1/4 teaspooon salt to 1/2 cup strong lukewarm calendula and pat on gums with a cotton ball. herbal remedies are usualy taken 3-4 times a day, one to two teaspoons of tea for a cat, 1/2 t. for a kitten. another book mentions calendula for general gum care-purchase a bottle of the mother tincture-put 6 drops in 1 oz of distilled water --if gums are infected already, use a cotton swab padded with extra cotton(from a cotton ball)so tht it soaks up the liquid. (brushing would only irritate gums more). cover both inside and outside of the gums(I guess they mean both sides of the teeth)with the calendula. hope some of this helps. calendula is usually easy to find in a good health food store. interesting footnotes that the vets seem to feel they see teeth problems more in certain breeds and colors. redheaded cats have more gingivitis than other cats. purebreds more at risk-tho maine coons have less problems than abyssinians and persians. My Mr. Bean is red and he ws the first one to exhibit the gum and tooth problems. barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger I am taking her to an internist on Monday, and also plan to call Monday morning to the veterinary dentist office near here to get her an emergency appointment if necessary. I want to talk to the internist first, in case there is something going on with that lymph node in her chest, but I am thinking more and more that it is her teeth (and hoping that is what it is). She is extremely playful, back to jumping some after I got food into her (maybe she was weak from not having much food in her), and very happy. She also tries to eat a little piece or lick and then just licks her mouth and lips. When she plays and bites on whatever she is playing with, she does the same thing with her mouth. So I am starting to think her gums just hurt a lot. I also read that protein in the urine can come from bad gum infections. Michelle In a message dated 5/6/05 10:35:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Michelle, I'm sorry Gunger is having such a hard time. When bailey's stomastisis was at it's worse he was losing weight, he didn't stop eating completely but he was eating much less that was OK, and after he had lost about a pound over a month or so is when I decided none of the other things we were trying were working and we pulled his teeth. Bad teeth can cause serious infections, and if it is bad enough probably hurts enough to make eating painful. I know a tooth ache is one of the few things I can't tolerate well and I have a very high pain tolerence. Are you planning on getting her teeth cleaned soon?
Re: Thank you - Jada won BEST IN SHOW
Title: Message yeay my sister got 30 co workers to vote after I emailed her--even tho most of them are "itty bitty fluffy dog" owners so will forward this good news to her. Good luck on adoption event. - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' ; 'Janice Ventura' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; 'Ellen E. Hutzel' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; 'maggie raywood' Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 7:21 AM Subject: Thank you - Jada won BEST IN SHOW Jada, the pit-bull mix from the shelter I volunteer with, besides winning the popular vote, just won Best In Show.Jada's owner put in a plug for the shelter and our upcoming adoption event. Also, they will do a story about Jada in Dog Magazine. Thank you again for your support, Joan
Re: Re Akira needs prayers
I am so sorry your Akira is not doing well. My cats never let the vet techs feed them if they feeling even a little bit poorly. are you allowed to go in and visit? Just remember to breathe. I know -we all know--how cruel and unfair this virus can be---our furfriends can be doing fine and then we blink and they are sick. pulling for Akira to perk up. Remember she loves you. Barbara
Re: False Positive
She might have tested postive because she had been exposed to Smeagol(sharing litter boxes, mutual cleaning) but now has shed the virus. be sure to read all the info and links on the leukemia website. It can be very scary to face but with information you will feel more confident. I would think the vet would wait 3 months before retesting. Which test did the vet give her? Was Moxie a litter mate to Smeagol? I am so sorry you lost him. We all here on this list know how crappy this virus is and have faced losses of our furkids also. Try to take some comfort that Smeagol is now pain free and now running and playing beyond the Rainbow bridge. I would suggest you go thru the archives for info on supplements and vitamins for Moxie--I have a mixed household-only one postive now and 6 negatives. One of my other cats was a positive but after several years of MegaPlus vitamin C, vit E and feeding him a better quality diet of canned food like Wellness, Eagle brand holistic, Petguard NOT grocery store stuff, he tested negative. surprised the heck out of my vet. I would also suggest you go to the www.holisticat.com website and scroll thru their archives for info. Welcome to the group--you will find very supportive people. it might just be quiet during this mother's day weekend but I am sure others will email you. Barbara - Original Message - From: Dawn Ritzke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: False Positive About 3 weeks ago my 10 month old kitty, Smeagol, died from feline leukemia. I was unaware he even had leukemia. The vet never checked him for leukemia. At that time I had my other kitten, Moxie retested. She was tested at birth and was negative. Three weeks ago she came back positive. I recently had her retested again and this time she came back negative. I am going to have her tested again in one month. She is very healthy. I understand the chance of a false positive is about 3%. I am not very familar with feline leukemia. Does anyone have any advice or suggestions. _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger
i had sent my well wishes before you posted the complete story. it does sound like her teeth and gums are the problem and the gingivitis could also be causing stomatitis. is she drooling? did you try yogurt? and I agree with Barb--my cats will jump on whoever has just returned from the vet or clinic because of the strange smells. sending more healing thoughts for Ginger. barbara - Original Message - From: Barb Moermond To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Need prayers and advice for Ginger It sounds like her teeth and gums are the things that need fixing, at least short-term. Her mouth might just be too painful for her to deal with it. Lucy probably attacked her because she smelled like the emergency clinic- my boys have done that to each other on the few occasions they've gone separately. I would definitely keep an eye on the lump, but I think her mouth is the problem at the moment. Keeping your family in our thoughts.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ginger, my 6 year old positive, did not seem to want to eat last night and this morning at 6 am licked her lips when I gave her baby food and only ate a few licks-- she would normally go crazy for it. I took her in to the emergency room. Her blood work was all normal except her protein was a little high. Her xrays were normal except there was a little something showing where the lymph node in the chest is. The radiologist said it is either fat, which frequently collects there and Ginger is fat, or the beginnings of an enlarged lymph node there which could indicate lymphoma. Her gums are super-inflamed and her teeth in terrible shape. They gave me antibiotics for her mouth, gave her Pepcid before we left, and said to give her fluids. They chipped some of the stuff off her teeth. She was very stressed while there.Upon coming home she ate a jar of baby food. My cat Lucy then started viciously attacking her-- which she has never done, and Ginger has been hiding from her. I gave her a vial of feline interferon for the first time, have an ultrasound scheduled for Monday if she does not get better, and am praying. I tried to give her fluids and she turned into a wildebeast-- I have given many cats fluids in my life, and Gray was helping, and we could not get more than 10 ml or so into her. I tried giving her more food, including more baby food, and she would not eat it. Actually, she tried a few licks of baby food and then started moving her mouth and throat funny like it was stuck in her mouth or throat, which of course is impossible with baby food, and then she walked away. She played with me a little, but is not herself at all. She does not have diarrhea. She is a little dehydrated, which I guess I will try to fix by getting more baby food in her since I can not get fluids into her.If anyone thinks this sounds familiar and has any idea what is going on, please tell me. I hope it is not lymphoma, and to tell the truth it seems odd to me that beginning stages of lymphoma in the chest would make her not want to eat. Please send prayers and energy.Thanks,MichelleBarb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Yahoo! Mail MobileTake Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.
Re: Thank you - Jada gets to compete on Friday
Title: Message Yeay! good luck! barbara - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; 'Janice Ventura' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; Niki Dawson ; 'maggie raywood' ; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 8:35 AM Subject: Thank you - Jada gets to compete on Friday Thank you for voting for Jada. She will be able to compete on Friday and hopefully bring some attention to the Shelter she was adopted from. Joan
Re: Mikey
Oh gosh Leah, I am so sorry. poor brave little guy. the only thing that consoles me after losing a furkid is knowing they are running free of pain and problems over the bridge adn just waiting to pounce on us when it is our turn to cross. Hope you will cherish the time you had with him and I;m glad Bubba is there to hug you. Barbara
Re: kitty logjam - carrier anecdote
exactly! I will bring up the carrier for an upcoming vet visit, leave it open on teh table adn everybody wants to get in there. I swear no matter how much lead time I give it-even hours, they know how to read my footsteps that mean "going to the vet" and it's like they all activate their "cloaking devices" and disappear--except of course for the only one who's not going to the vet barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: Re: kitty logjam - carrier anecdote That is too funny! But isn't it something that if you happen to leave a carrier out, they all seem to "fight" to get in it. But when it's time for a vet visit and the carrier comes out, they all disappear! Cats, I'll never figure them out! I think that's why I love them so much...the element of "mystery". Patti
Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral
will someone explain to me why my two half ferals will let me pet them at 6 am when they wake me up in the morning but run if I so much as peek in the same room they're in any other time? AND those rotten furkids. my son's friend came for a visit from college-never saw her in their lives and the female cat climbed up on her lap for pets and a nap. argghhh! they also love my friend who has their two siblings since they were 20 wks old(now 6 yrs old). - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Re: I need ideas on best brand of carrier for feral In a message dated 5/4/2005 3:43:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: one of my favorite warped thingsto do is sneak up on her and pet her because i KNOW it's largelyan act. her name, appropriately enough, is sybil. That made me laugh! And brought back "happy" memories too. We had a couple of feral boys that I "befriended". One on one in private they allowed me to actually stroke them, and even pick them up on occassion. Loved those boys... And their names were Damien Diablo! Had to chuckle at Sybil's name. How appropriate. I used to do that too, "sneak" up stroke them. (And they did like it!) I'm with youcats are great at acting!! Patti
Re: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T.
Title: Message i sent it on again to everyone i can think of. good luck! - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:46 AM Subject: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. Hi, This is the last day to vote or vote again for Jada. Please go to: http://cbsnewyork.com/dogshow/. It would be great free publicity for my poor,little, strugglingshelter. Thanks, Joan
OT: need a free online greeting card service for condolence card
Title: Message My russian friend's dog Lika had to be pts last friday. does anyone know a free online condolence card service that I could use to send him and his family a card? thanks barbara
Re: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T.
Title: Message do you have a webpage? or are you on petfinder? barbara - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:46 AM Subject: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. Hi, This is the last day to vote or vote again for Jada. Please go to: http://cbsnewyork.com/dogshow/. It would be great free publicity for my poor,little, strugglingshelter. Thanks, Joan
ot: voting
Title: Message everybody's gotta vote. jada is only in second place by tenths of points. amazing how the votes have gone up tenfold since i looked this morning. barbara - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:36 PM Subject: RE: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. Thank you! -Original Message-From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:31 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. I just fwded it to a group of friends. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doljan, JoanSent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:46 AMTo: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'Subject: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. Hi, This is the last day to vote or vote again for Jada. Please go to: http://cbsnewyork.com/dogshow/. It would be great free publicity for my poor,little, strugglingshelter. Thanks, JoanThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: voting
i just checked teh website and they picked ten finalists. arghhh!!! i thought this voting was the last round. but still, Congratulations for getting into this round!! - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: RE: voting you bet ;-))"Doljan, Joan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty cool for a pit bull mix! -Original Message-From: Cherie A Gabbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 4:23 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: voting Looks Like Jada is in 1st place Cherie"Doljan, Joan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you--today is the last chance! http://cbsnewyork.com/dogshow/ -Original Message-From: Barbara Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:33 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: ot: voting everybody's gotta vote. jada is only in second place by tenths of points. amazing how the votes have gone up tenfold since i looked this morning. barbara - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:36 PM Subject: RE: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. Thank you! -Original Message-From: MacKenzie, Kerry N. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:31 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. I just fwded it to a group of friends. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doljan, JoanSent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:46 AMTo: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'Subject: Last chance to vote or vote again for Jada - O.T. Hi, This is the last day to vote or vote again for Jada. Please go to: http://cbsnewyork.com/dogshow/. It would be great free publicity for my poor,little, strugglingshelter. Thanks, JoanThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: O.T, - Please vote for Jada
Title: Message jada is 10.65% and bumper is at 11.something. i got to vote again.
Re: get out the tissues!
I sometimes wonder about where the compassionate feelings many so-called humans seem to be lacking, disappeared to---now I know. the beauty, the strengh, the love, the joy for animals did not just dissipate into the air--they all found a home in Debbie. blessed be all who rescue. barbara - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:07 AM Subject: get out the tissues! Jul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: "Jul" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 04:27:39 -Subject: [kittycityrescue] Fwd: |!| What is a Rescuer? |!|--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Saigh [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote:In honor of two lost lives, and a tribute to rescuers everywhere. The Debbie mentioned in this essay is Debbie Dawn Sage, of FRIENDS of the ANIMALS, of Raytown, MO/Topeka, KS.And yes, I wrote it.- Saigh It was a sunny Saturday morning, bright but not hot, breezy but neither cold nor harsh. Even if the three of us were in varying states of displeasure about being awake and moving at this hour on a weekend, it was a perfect day for transporting animals. Blaidd was a smoldering presence in the seat next to me, still understandably upset that we'd had to leave Piper at home and likely to be for the rest of the day, as well as still in the dangerous condition of not having had any Coke since waking; Caer was still giggly and tired in the back seat from lack of sleep, though trying not to let it show by making harmless, random comments to which neither person in the front seat was really responding. And me? I wasn't really caring either way at that point - all I was concentrating on was getting to the meeting point on time, which doesn't sound like such a difficult task unless you know me and the way that for some reason logic warps around me. I can start out thirty minutesearly and still be ten minutes late. A unique talent, I guess. Approximately an hour later, we had met our charges for the day, exchanged quite a bit of interaction with the handing off driver who also happened to be the coordinator of this run, gassed up Spud (the rescue mobile - a '93 Oldsmobile; anyone see the difficulty yet?), gotten Blaidd some Coke, watered all three dogs, exchanged parting hugs and wishes with our contact, and settled everyone in the car. The Golden brothers quickly appropriated the back seat, one stretching across the entirety of it with his head in Caer's lap, the other still too excited about new surroundings and new people to even care or really notice that he was thereby forced to stand up; the Pointer occupied the space Piper normally would, first standing then sitting and eventually laying on the bench seat between myself and Blaidd in the front. We rolled down the windows, cranked the AC, and departed the service station for the three hour drive ahead of us in much better spirits. After all - everyonefit, and that's all we could really ask or hope for. I merged onto the highway, and settled into a good driving speed. The mood in the car was high - we'd just witnessed a three-legged, skin and bones beagle being delivered into the hands of his new foster or adoptive home (I think adoptive, though that wasn't made abundantly clear), and the skeleton of a pointer next to us was going to have a chance at life outside the Animal Control shelter where none of the animals were fed and barely watered as they simply waited for their turn to die. I knew we were behind, but it was well worth it; I was calculating how late we would be by the time we got to our own drop off point, and how many miles we would have on the tank before needing to fill up again, when I glanced up to the road and felt my heart sink. I'd seen the body lying on the side of the road... the dog lover in me immediately whispered beagle... just as the logic told me dead... I felt the familiar numbness lock up my chest as happens every time I see an animal on theside of the road, but magnified as the question was begged What were you doing out here? of an obvious pet lying by a busy four lane highway, 20 minutes by car from any of the nearest cities or houses that could be seen... Before I could notice the other critical detail I heard Blaidd beside me, voice tense: "That was Debbie... Stop. Stop... it's Debbie." My numb heart sank lower, and I hit the brakes. We backed down the shoulder of the highway, I surprisingly not even flinching at how close and how fast the cars that didn't move over for us shuddered past; all that mattered was getting closer to that red Chevy pulled over off the highway, its back door open and its driver
Re: get out the tissues!
smacking myself upside the head. I also meant to include you on the list of honors for rescuing the senior kitty. barbara
Re: need advice for Kurt
I am so sorry to read about your Kurt. Hopefully the specialist can suggest something. My sister's cat recd two insulin shots for years but her diabetes was discovered very early. I will pray for your sweet old friend. regards Barbara - Original Message - From: maca cats [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:43 AM Subject: need advice for Kurt hi everybody, I have been mostly lurking lately, sending my vibes to all the sick kids and crying with the sudden deathas we have had lately. I am having my share at home too. Kurt, my elder is every sick, he dosen't stop throwing up, I thought it was because of the doxy he was taking for hemobartonella, but we ran a blood panel, and apparently he ha diabetes and something is going on with his kidneys as well, we are waiting for a vet at home for doing an ecography, and later today we have an appointment with a vet who is tha cat expert of the country. I know nothing about diabetes and intolerance to glucose, if anybody has any advice, it will be very welcome, and of course any good vibes would be a blessing. thank you for being there macarena, chile
Re: Need help with treatment options for FELV+ kitty and infections
thank you for taking TeeCee in when his uselesss owners abandoned him. Leash trained yet--he really sounds like a great sweetheart. I am so sorry he is not doing well. dont' be afraid to ask your vet for referral to specialist vets. (i've gone thru 3 vets and 6 different animals passing away from various illnesses and I finally had to ask each vet to refer me and then their attitude was like oh yeah there are specialists around here). have they done a blood work on him to see if he's anemic or catch any other underlying problems? regards barbara - Original Message - From: Stephanie E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: Need help with treatment options for FELV+ kitty and infections I need some ideas for a kitty that adopted me. He was a 30lb white Tom Cat (AKA TeeCee), but in the past month has deteriorated to 9 lbs. He's got an infection in his left hind at the nail that he can't seem to kick. He's been on Bayitril for two weeks now @ 22.5mg 1x daily, it's having no effect. He quit eating yesterday. He tested positive on the in office test for FELV, he was an inside kitty, his owners moved to New York this winter and set him out. He ended up at my house. I have one other kitty and am keeping them separated for the time being. Right now TeeCee is at the vet's getting fluids and IV antibiotics that are stronger than the oral, but they don't expect him to pull through. He's an incredibly sweet kitty, who purrs whenever anyone touches him (including the vet!). He's easy to treat, easy to handle, house broke and leash trained. I'm in Charlotte, NC area if anyone knows of vets or any ideas for me. Steph
Re: Tiggie has gone to the Bridge
I am so sorry for your loss of your little Tigger. barbara
Re: Pill Pockets for giving Meds.
i have two who absolutely cannot wait for their vitamins every morning in those darn things. when any of the others need meds, i have to tear up one pill pocket for them to snack on and then hide the one with the pill in their wet food. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. go figure... barbara
Re: Angel's Gate- My Felix
Title: AOL Email i am so sorry to hear of your problems causing you to sell your house. hoping all works out for you and your creatures. I hope angel's gate is able to help Felix and glad such a refuge exists. Your love for your little old man was heartening to read. please take care, barbara
Re: O.T. - Help my shelter website
done. also i'm thinking of trying that groom-eze brush(lots of other neat products on that page too). my allergies are acting up. barbara - Original Message - From: Joan Doljan To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:06 AM Subject: O.T. - Help my shelter website Hi, Just to remind everybody that you can go to the website once a day and a donation goes to the shelter I volunteer with. The link is: http://www.handicappedpets.com/gallery/wfi0205/index.htm Thank you, Joan
Re: anyone have any room or any suggestions?
thanks. between dopey still spraying whenever we spring her from isolation room adn now my allergies really acting up, I just can't take in anymore at this time. we've even put our search for a 2nd dog on hold til figure out the why of the allergies. I did tell her to get on waiting list at angel's gate also. also interesting note, the rescue i sometimes work for, had a casino night, took in 16 thousand which pays for a week and a half of expenses. omigod i need to win a really big lotterylike megamillions big. barbara - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: Re: anyone have any room or any suggestions? no room here but, I ask around CherieBarbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 874379- Cat:Domestic short hair grey whiteMiddletown,NY 845-434-1456 Helen Heater [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03-10-2005 Name: MustacheAge:3 yearsSex:MSize:MDelete Is there a saving grace for Mustache? Mustache is a 3 year old DSH grey white male cat with feline leukemia. He was a stray that was saved from dying in the street. He has an extremely amiable personality. He is great with other cats but due to his virus he must be with only other leukemia cats or an only cat. Given proper care Mustache could live his remaining time out peacefully. Please we really love him and need a home for him. He can not go to the shelter because his virus is contagious to other cats. Mustaches Dad will pay for his neuter surgery he will have his current vaccines befor placement. He currently is in an isolation unit at the local vet office. My name is Helen and I can be reached at:845-733-4350 on the days of Wed.,Thurs., Fri-all day or 845-434-1456 on the days of Sat.-Tues after 6pm or Fridays after 8pm or at my job on the days of Sat.-Tues 8am-5pm.Please leave message on machine at work because we may be in kennel not answering.
Re: OT - We need your prayers
Here's hoping the therapy does work!! I (and my cats and other dog) know what it's like to lose one of the family pack. We're all sending healing zibes. regards barbara
Re: OT - Petitioning Oprah
Title: Message the little I've watched of the show, I dont' recall her ever doing any show on animals. and when I used to have a bookstore, always had requests for books she would mention or authors she'd host but never had a single request for any animal oriented book rec'd by her. You would think Oprah would be horrified at those "quaint Amish people" running puppy mills, etc. the only time I ever watched Tony Danza's talk show--for all of 2 minutes, the moron surprised a young female guest with a choice of different puppies his staff had picked out from a pet store near their building. Ellen Degeneres expresses concern for animals and backs it up on her website also. will go sign petition for oprah... barbara - Original Message - From: Doljan, Joan To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: RE: OT - Petitioning Oprah Thanks. Passed it on. -Original Message-From: Julie Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:55 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: OT - Petitioning Oprah Dear Friends, Here is a link to sign a petition asking that Oprah do a show on pet overpopulation, puppy mills, and other animal issues. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/621738786?ltl=1110297092 Oprah is such a unique celebrity in American culture; I wrote to her office about a year ago asking for a show like this and did not receive a response; the goal for the petition is 100,000 signatures. Hopefully they will consider it if that many folks make it clear they'd like to see this issue addressed. Please consider signing! Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Intercat by Toray Industries
went to the website, on the left side near bottom of column, click on inquiry and see if that will get you some results. barbara - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: Intercat by Toray Industries In reading the material that was posted yesterday Intercat looks like something that could wor or at least help, in some circumstances...my only dillema is how to obtain it, I have found this website but can not locate instructions on how to go about getting it...any thoughts http://www.toray.co.jp/english/chemical/sehin/b_yoto/21cat.html Cherie
Re: O.T. - Help for my shelter
i am still clicking on this every morning. wish I had known about this site years ago for its products. barbara - Original Message - From: Brenda K. Smith To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 6:10 PM Subject: Re: O.T. - Help for my shelter Barbara. Here you are - http://www.handicappedpets.com/gallery/wfi0205/index.htm-- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. Barbara Lowe wrote: oh darn please send the link again as my computer seems to have been hungry last night and i can't find any saved stuff from yesterday. barbara - Original Message - From: Brenda K. Smith To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: O.T. - Help for my shelter Joan I just went there and a person needs to view the Photo Gallery page and/or The Rainbow Bridge page for it to count for a donation. One visit per day. I visited both and will do so every day that I can. -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.2 - Release Date: 2/28/2005
Re: OT:Check out Alliance for Animals: Action Alerts (Cat Hunting in WI.)
LOL. love it!! barbara I suppose shooting developers might be a bit extreme but maybe we can confine them somehow :)
Re: I'm SOOO scared - i need your support!
calm down. your household is the equivalent of kitty kindergarten. one kid sneezes they all get colds, for example. worrying is sapping your postive energy and you need that right now. worrying does nothing but paralyze you. don't overwhelm yourself with such negative thoughts, okay? save your strength for when you will need it. good luck at vet's. barbara
Re: Please Help! Anakin is very sick
are you saying the cat was eating his normal amount yesterday and today he's the opposite? he might just be run of the mill sick not necessarily the virus rearing its ugly head and attacking his bone marrow. i know you love him and want to do all that's possible. for his sake and yours, relax and try to just love him right now and not stress each other. if he doesn't want to be held or petted, you can just stay near him. i read your other post about giving him kmr--that's good so he wont' get dehydrated. you could also try what is it? nutracal--it's sold in pet stores--sort of a gel/paste in a tube that will give him some nutrients. please dont' beat yourself up about this--you were wonderful to take him and his sibling in and give him love and a family. have you discussed interferon with your vet? i don't know how much your vet charges but bloodwork out here can run anywhere from 100-200$ depending on the vet. let your vet know how much kmr he's taken in--and if he is still hungry for it tomorrow. an appetite should be a positive sign. I dont' want to give you any false hopes. i had one cat who subsisted on cantalope for a few weeks-she was stillplayful but was wasting away in front of me. let us know what happens tomorrow at the vet. regards, barbara - Original Message - From: catstevens To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Please Help! Anakin is very sick Sorry I have not been on much lately with work other cat family stuff.Yes Anakin his brother were left on my porch last march when they were about a week oldthey have been tested several times But Anakin is the only one who has tested positive.When hewas a few months oldall his glands were swollen,but they got better has been doing goodtill now.The vet we got has had others,but she thinks that thetesting will be to expensive that he'snot going to do any better.He has hardly moved all day.He was eating so crunchy yesterday.Thanks for the help Anita - Original Message - From: Barbara Lowe To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 3:27 PM Subject: Re: Please Help! Anakin is very sick if you can afford it, maybe have the vet do a complete blood work to see what Anakin's levels are. (what a neat name--poor kitty to be so sick now). sorry, i have been taking allergy medicine so kinda fuzzy. has Anakin tested postive?-I assume that's why you're on this list--just don't recall reading that name before. maybe a B-12 shot? is he eating at all? has your vet worked with feline leukemia cats before? is he/she knowledgeable? sorry I'm not more knowledgeable but hopefully others will check in tonight on this list and can offer more suggestions. don't be afraid to ask for a referral to a specialist. regards Barbara - Original Message - From: catstevens To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 6:03 PM Subject: Please Help! Anakin is very sick Anakin is very sick.All he does is sleep.I checked his gums tong are white.I am taking him to the vet tomorrow,but they said his bone marrow is not producing blood cells.They said there was not much they can do.If there is anything I can try or if you have any suggestion please let me know.Thanks so much Anita
Re: [rescuecat] Update: Urgent: Cat in Pennsauken, NJ to be PTS - Happy Tails!
That is great news. thank you for the update. barbara
Re: New To This
Hi, I'm guessing your other cats were not vaccinated for feline leukemia. are they now? I have lost 3 cats to leukemia. I am down to 7. however they have all lived together as the stress of keeping them apart would have added to their problems. I had two cats with leukemia however one recently tested negative after 3-4 years of supplements and vitamins. all my cats get MegaC+, vit e 200 units, A D once a week and pet tinic. the two +'sare also on ambrotose. I only tried interferon when the last one got sick--one day a fat healthy 2 year old and then "crashed" in a sense. the last one- a male-who died from leukemia I rescued from a kill pound along with his two siblings. one sibling died within a couple of weeks from something unrelated. the other kitten is sitting here on my lap and except for her runny eyes which one vet said was feline herpes, she is fine and still tests negative. She and her brother were inseparable adn always cleaning each other and biting while playing. no idea what retrovir is--hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will come along to help. the info on the net is tremendous and overwhelming. just remember to enjoy the time you have with your cats. sorry you had this virus hit your family. what did the other kittens you mentioned die from? i would recommend you get your cats on supplements to boost their immune system. filtered water is also good. try to stay away from grocery store cat food and feed your cats a better diet-wellness, Petguard, Merrick's, Eagle brand are good names. as for the animal shelter, i'd say, channel your energy into postive and focus on your cats. many rescue shelters are understaffed and overworked and trying to deal with public that refuses to neuter/spay their animals and the sad eyes of the animals the rescue staff must walk past as they make life and death decisions about which animals to rescue from the kill pounds. also have you gone to the www.holisticat.com site and searched thru their archives for info. take care barbara - Original Message - From: Mrs. Kulak To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 12:55 PM Subject: New To This I have just found out that my two kittens are positive for feline leukemia. I adopted a kitten from an animal shelter in Wisconsin that originally tested negative. But since then he has become positive and has infected one of my older cats, who in the meantime has become quite sick. It is devastating to me. BUT, I am trying to remain optimistic. Therefore, I am trying to find out all I can. First of all, I have three other cats, all of which tested negative. I have to keep them separated now from my two "sick" ones. Even though the little kitten I adopted in November has the virus, he acts totally normal. The older kitten which is actually a year old now, is sick. I've been giving the older one 3cc of Retrovir in the morning and in the evening. I don't know what the side effects are to cats. I only received the side effects for humans when I picked up the medicine at the pharmacy. Is there any place you can recommend to me to find out more about the side effects to cats? The side effects to humans don't look so good, so I'm a bit worried about this medicine. Second, as I have stated, I have to keep my cats all separated. This is EXTREMELY hard. We were one big happy family. All of my cats got along, cuddled, took care of the little ones, played together, cleaned each other, and now I've had to tear up the family. The older ones in the basement are wondering what's going on. I go down there to sit with them and they just stare at me. It's kind of creepy. But they do thrive on the attention oncewe get past the awkward moment. The kittens I keep upstairs so that I can monitor them. The littlest one is constantly crying at the door that separates them all. I've even caught the older one clawing at the door today. It's really hard. Therefore, I was wondering, if after the incubation period is over and the other older cats get retested and if they still prove to be negative, then get their shots, could I put the family back together again? Or is it better for me to find a new home for the ill cats? I will die if I have to lose them. They are my babies. This will be the third and fourth kittens I have lost in three years. But I need to do what's best. I'd rather take care of the ill kittens myself than have the cost burden and the stress go to someone else. I know I have a home for the three older cats providing they stay negative. I just really want to try to keep the family together. So, how effective are the shots? Third and final, the animal shelter that I received the kitten from is trying to deny that it was their kitten. In a sense, they told me that my vet tested incorrectly. Now I know that the
Re: New To This
i just did a google on retrovir and found some info. rather than rephrase it, i suggest you do that also. just go to www.google.com and as I did, type in retrovir side effects cats. most of the info deals with treating fiv cats however the side effects would be the same(liver problems). sorry, i've had a really really long day of driving so can't even see straight to stay online tonight. barbara - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 7:45 PM Subject: Re: New To This Hi Kristina, I'm sorry you had to find us. The list is slow on weekends, but you'll get lots of good info. As per your questions, I've never heard of retrovir, so I'm no help there. It sounds like your cat that tested negative and then positive had just not had time to test positive yet after exposure. You are right, that the shelter should be more responsible, but I doubt they could even go back and trace the cats/kittens that were together for that period of time. Typically if anyone in a group held together tests positive they euthanize everyone who had contact with the positive, so in my opinion, I would let it go. Hopefully any other cats that turn up positive will go to good homes such as yours. Others on the list know more about the time involved from exposure until a test result will show positive. Also, though, your cats testing positive could just be positive because they've been exposed and still 'throw off' the virus and end up negative. Many people on the list mix cats following the vaccination protocol someone (I think Chere) discussed. I've had 2 positives mixed with my negatives for around 7 years. I lost one of my positives, but none of my negatives have caught the virus. The positives were positive when I brought them in. In general, people on the list have found the shots to be effective. If all of these cats have already been mixed, then my opinion is that whatever damage there might be is already done. I would still booster my negatives though before mixing. I hope this helps some. As I said, others will contact you as well. tonya"Mrs. Kulak" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote First of all, I have three other cats, all of which tested negative. I have to keep them separated now from my two "sick" ones. Even though the little kitten I adopted in November has the virus, he acts totally normal. The older kitten which is actually a year old now, is sick. I've been giving the older one 3cc of Retrovir in the morning and in the evening. I don't know what the side effects are to cats. I only received the side effects for humans when I picked up the medicine at the pharmacy. Is there any place you can recommend to me to find out more about the side effects to cats? The side effects to humans don't look so good, so I'm a bit worried about this medicine. Second, as I have stated, I have to keep my cats all separated. This is EXTREMELY hard. We were one big happy family. All of my cats got along, cuddled, took care of the little ones, played together, cleaned each other, and now I've had to tear up the family. The older ones in the basement are wondering what's going on. I go down there to sit with them and they just stare at me. It's kind of creepy. But they do thrive on the attention oncewe get past the awkward moment. The kittens I keep upstairs so that I can monitor them. The littlest one is constantly crying at the door that separates them all. I've even caught the older one clawing at the door today. It's really hard. Therefore, I was wondering, if after the incubation period is over and the other older cats get retested and if they still prove to be negative, then get their shots, could I put the family back together again? Or is it better for me to find a new home for the ill cats? I will die if I have to lose them. They are my babies. This will be the third and fourth kittens I have lost in three years. But I need to do what's best. I'd rather take care of the ill kittens myself than have the cost burden and the stress go to someone else. I know I have a home for the three older cats providing they stay negative. I just really want to try to keep the family together. So, how effective are the shots? Third and final, the animal shelter that I received the kitten from is trying to deny that it was their kitten. In a sense, they told me that my vet tested incorrectly. Now I know that the shelter is trying to do a good thing, but I feel they have a responsibility to tell the other people who have adopted kittens or cats from the same group and time period. They aren't listening to me. I've researched about the incubation period and that maybe they
Re: O.T. - Help for my shelter
oh darn please send the link again as my computer seems to have been hungry last night and i can't find any saved stuff from yesterday. barbara - Original Message - From: Brenda K. Smith To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:59 PM Subject: Re: O.T. - Help for my shelter Joan I just went there and a person needs to view the Photo Gallery page and/or The Rainbow Bridge page for it to count for a donation. One visit per day. I visited both and will do so every day that I can.-- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.2 - Release Date: 2/28/2005
Re: Feral cat book...to the Lottery/freecycle
just a thought. is there a www.freecycle.org listed for your local area? in case you don't know how it works, you have to register and then (at least in our area) the first post must be an Offer of something. everything has to be free. people offer things from packing materials to boats to food etc. you could post as a cat rescue looking for food--that would smoke out any cat lovers and perhaps you could network with them. also i googled for new mexico(that is where you are,right? or did I hallucinate again?)and found this group. perhaps they could help or know others. http://www.albcat.com/ but if you're not in new mexico then no help. where are you? regards Barbara what's ironic is that anytime i try to help a feral group locally, they are very closed mouth for fear of people dropping off more cats.
Re: Feral cat book
Title: Message i have only 7 cats (down from 9 )and 1 dog (down from 2). and people regard me the same way--especially my family members. screw 'em. I thank god I'm hardwired to respect animal life and enjoy their companionship. You are an angel to risk your job for these ferals. did you try contact Alley Cat allies-even if just to ask for help on how to deal with your company's higher ups? (and how the heck do they claim the cats are a danger? idiots!) have you asked around any stables if they need barn cats? (a local woman rescues ferals out of our pound -and rehomes them that way). if only i could win the megamillions lottery. barbara
Re: New FeLV+ Cat, transfusion yesterday. Please see blood results.
Good morning, I am very sorry to hear about your Brissle's condition. How is she doing? (and what an unusual name!) I'm no expert on the blood results. hopefully someone w/ more knowledge will respond soon. there's lot of info about anemia in the archives. Pet tinic is usually available only at the vet's-tho I believe i've seen it sold in kv vet supply online. don't have their link but you can probably find it if you google. i recall reading others' posts about their cats getting B12 shots. I've gone thru the transfusion route with two of my +'s--both of whom sadly passed away from leukemia. I hope you are able to enjoy some quality time with your pet. thymus, echinecea are available at health food stores but call around first. also with the ech. you can't give continuously and it does have a nasty taste and always made my cats foam at mouth. if you haven't yet, you might also go thru the topical archives over at www.holisticat.com site. the liver shake receipe is in the archives on both sites, I believe. I know it's overwhelming and stressful to try to go thru all the information to try to find some way to help your beloved animal. just remember to love her now. remember to enjoy her now. I've lost 3 to leukemia however one of mine also tested negative after four years of supplements and vitamins. regards Barbara - Original Message - From: Melbeach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: New FeLV+ Cat, transfusion yesterday. Please see blood results. Hi everyone. First post here. My 8-year old female Brissle was diagnosed two days ago with severe anemia and FeLV. The vet was not optimistic about her chances. She had a blood transfusion yesterday. She's doing much better now, eating really well, color is returning. But I know this is probably only temporary. She's still licking wood, which I know is a sign of anemia. I wanted to post Brissle's blood results (before transfusion) and see if anything stands out. If it's bad, don't be afraid to tell me! For one, my vet was concerned about lymph-related issues. Well here are her results from Friday, before the transfusion. (In parenthesis, I included where the number falls in the report's Reference Range): HCT = 9.7% (extremely low) HGB = 3.1 g/dl (extremely low) MCHC = 32.0 g/dl (normal) WBC = 17.3 x 10^9/L (normal) GRANS = 8.3 x 10^9/L (normal) %GRANS = 48% L/M = 9.0 x 10^9/L (high) L/M% = 52% PLT = 175 x 10^9/L (low to normal) Retics 4.0% ALB = 2.79 g/dl (normal) ALKP = 31 U/L (normal) ALT = 87 U/L (normal) AMYL = 1667 U/L (high) BUN = 30.0 mg/dl (normal) Ca = 9.43 mg/dl (normal) CREA = 1.46 mg/dl (normal) GLU = 151.3 mg/dl (high) PHOS = 5.46 mg/dl (normal) TBIL = 0.75 mg/dl (normal) TP = 8.48 g/dl (normal) GLOB = 5.70 g/dl (very high) I'm debating between Interferon and Immunoregulin for the FeLV. I'll be going back to my vet tomorrow and want to be decided by then. My vet doesn't seem very up to date on these treatments. But at the same time, he's receptive about ordering the Interferon from Island Pharmacy and there are other things I like about their office. So I'm not kind of in the middle about switching vets. But I think I can work with this guy as long as I'm prepared. I'm also really worried about the anemia. Something tells me this could be the bigger issue. I'll be going shopping in a couple hours before PetSmart closes. Anything good that PetSmart might carry? I'm not too worried about price at this point. I'm just at the beginning of researching the diet issue now. So far, I've read about: Pet Tinnic, thymus, echinacea, Periactin, liver shakes. Does PetSmart carry any of this stuff? I'll keep reading Thanks! Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Melbeach
angel's gate hospice site for chili and salsa?
http://www.angelsgate.org/ they do "treat" the feline leukemia cats.
Re: Still looking for adoptive home for Chili and Salsa
i just read on the website also about they've built an outdoor enclosure for the feline leukemia cats. - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:50 AM Subject: RE: Still looking for adoptive home for Chili and Salsa Melissa, I had visited Angels Gate last year they were renovating a sep little house on the grounds for felv+ cats. They do seem to be devoted to the multitude of animals they care for and consider themselves hospice care. Started out, I believe, for dogs with paralysis it went from there. The whole place is set up for animals of all sorts (they are also wildlife rehabilitators). If you can visit, you might have a better shot at getting them in. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara LoweSent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:37 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Still looking for adoptive home for Chili and Salsa try throwing yourself on themercy of Angel's Gate in Fort Salonga here on Long Island. Iknow they have a waiting list for the leukemia kitties but maybe if you also sent them your website info to show all you've been thru with these sweeties they might be able to jump the list. i dont' have the website but that info i gave you should turn them up on a google. the director's name is Susan i believe. just sorry i can't take them. if she says no, then press her for leads to other places or adopters... barbara - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 12:25 AM Subject: Still looking for adoptive home for Chili and Salsa I feel like a broken record. I am still looking for an adoptive home for Chili and Salsa. Here is the deal guys: They are beautiful. They are soft. They are sweet and funny and playful. But they can't stay here forever. I live in a two bedroom apartment that is carpeted. My dog was just diagnosed with the first stages of renal insufficiency. I have a 17 month old toddler. Seven animals, carpet, and toddler aren't a good mix. I have worn out the good will of my partner. I have to get these numbers down and get our household back to some semblance of normal. I have two sections of isolation now because the new FeLV positives cannot mingle with the original ones because they are not altered and either not vaccinated or incompletely vaccinated. The new cats aren't completely vetted yet. Chili and Salsa are in adoptable condition--they are FeLV positive but otherwise healthy, vaccinated, and altered. They are dog-friendly. Adopting them out frees up room in my home for the remaining cats, two of which are also FeLV positive but not in adoptable condition. It will help me devote the same time and effort i put in to the original litter to these new cats. These new cats need more TLC because they came in sick, malnourished, and older and therefore far less tame and willing to trust. The Marley Fund house is currently way overburdened due to a cruelty case they had come through. Originally they were supposed to go there, but a real HOME would be so much better. if anyone is looking to adopt, please please please let me know. It would be best if they were adopted together as they are a bonded pair. I know how near to impossible that is. Melissa in NJ (Bergen County)
Re: miatia
you can also smear some food on her paws so she'll at least taste the foodstuff you're trying to get her interested in. sometimes a cat gets nauseous and won't eat after that. use a wooden tongue depressor and try to smear a little food inside the side of one of her cheeks also. deli meats always seem to interest my gang. also those cooked chickens from the grocery store. and heck, i'm here on Long Island NYand it's still a battle to educate my vets about leukemia and what's new in the field. and remember to just love Miatia. try to stay calm around her and stroke her gently. and please when you find time, alert someone to the situation at that farm. there might be several leukemia postive cats there -all with no proper attention. take care, barbara - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 1:05 AM Subject: RE: miatia Just keep in mind that almost any food is better than no food. If she was living on a farm she may have gotten used to leftover people food so try things like any sort of cold cuts, yogurt, cottage cheese, the water from a can of the dark tuna the tuna if shell eat it. Baby food without any onions. Cheese. Just try a little see if shell take it. I saw the other post about syringing her you can usually buy a large syringe (top only without needle) at a pharmacy like cvs, etc. Also, try to make sure shes drinking a little. You can always put some water on her paws or her mouth, at least shell lick that up. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of crystal dunhamSent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 6:21 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: miatia miatia is 9months old and as of yesterday see was eating but today she has not as of yet I will be calling the vet frist thing monday morn,of corse can not get ahold of him on the weekend I have wrote down a list of meds that I found on this site to talk to the vet about and she tested postive 4 weeks ago we dont know if she got it from her mom or from the other cats that she was living on that farm with but the vet said she more the likley had it when we got her cause she was very ill when she was gotten for me.I am going to try and fight to keep her alive no matter what the coast I have already taken my car of the road to save money for her I just wish we lived were there were vets that would fight for her health the way im trying.I will let you all know monday what her vet says and does once I give him the info i have wrote down from this web site on the kinds of treatment untill monday thang you all for you help
Re: So Worried and Irritated
i have never heard of giving a shot in the throat. new one for me. maybe he was doing it near her shoulder and from your husband's viewpoint(perhaps on other side of cat) it looked like the neck? i'll have to google that procedure
Re: I'M BACK!
Yeay! heck with all the nurturing and rescuing you do, I coulda told ya your heart was beautiful barbara - Original Message - From: Brenda K. Smith To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Del ; Peggy Dial ; Dale Thompson Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:54 AM Subject: OT: I'M BACK! Hi All. Got back tonight very tired and sore. Neither my daughter nor myself sleep well in hotels so we were tired. Good news! The doctor who was doing my angiogram (who has done it many times through the years) was saying wow - beautiful, just what I want to see - perfect, etc. while doing the procedure. :) He said that the results were about the same as two years ago or maybe even better. Then he said, "It's been 13-1/2 years right?" I said yes. He put two thumbs up and said, "You've got it made!" Just what I want to hear. :) For those of you who have some medical background, there is a slight thickening of the left side of my left ventricle, but it is no worse than two years ago. It's not an unusual occurence for a heart transplant, but it's nice to know it's about the same as two years ago. Thank you all for your best wishes that everything would go well and it did! This is a powerful group of people. :) Now, I have to rest so that I can pick up my new babies from Barb on Sunday. :) I'll email some more tomorrow. Thank you again!-- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here.
ot: need websites for cats w/ kidney failure
The vet for my sister's maine coon mix feels her cat is in kidney failure. he suggested hydrating the cat for 48 hours at office to see if can jumpstart him. ($600) and then maybe maybe she can learn to do it at home. (by herself I doubt it and the other problem is she travels frequently for her job). I dont' know his age(she lives a few states away from me but would imagine less than 10?) he was a rescue and she's had him several years. does anyone know some good websites or yahoo group for this? thank you in advance. barbara
