Re: [Felvtalk] Callie
Lance, I know it's hard but I really wouldn't worry too much about it. Some of the negatives I have were really sick and in the same small kennel for months with sick FeLV's before I got them. Callie is also an adult so more immune to the virus. DMG is really good for cats with HCM but I haven't seen any data about it being proven to stimulate or support immune systems. If you have Transfer Factor plus tri factor, I'd give that to Callie. That really has helped all the FeLV cats here and also non FeLV ones that were sick. Try not to worry too much. El From: lini...@fastmail.fm To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:50:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Callie The hardest part is that this was preventable. Not all accidents are, but when they are, they feel all the more tragic. I'm talking to an alternative medicine vet at 3:30 to see if she thinks DMG would be a good idea. I'd prefer to get the go-ahead from a professional. Really, it's up to Callie's immune system to recognize the virus and react appropriately. I want to be hopeful, but I'm so concerned and depressed that it's hard to not despair. I am trying to tell myself that being positive is the only way forward, but it doesn't always stick, especially when I wake up and remember what's happening. I appreciate the kind words and support that I've gotten here. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Getting myself ready for the battle
I've used Transfer Factor Plus Tri Factor for FeLV+ cats for several years. It's the best immune booster I've tried. Also, I use the Agaricus Blazeii. Although all of the FeLV+ cats that I've taken in have come very ill and emaciated, once all the infections are treated and their immune system is built up, they haven't had for a few years. Mattie is the third one that has gotten lymphoma though after being healthy for 4 1/2 - 5 years. That seems to be the pattern here. One came with endocarditis but he lived 5 years with the right medical treatment and the transfer factor. El From: lini...@fastmail.fm Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:54:00 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Getting myself ready for the battle I see that I wrote beware where I meant be aware. A few options you may want to discuss with a holistic vet: Thorne Research - ImmugenAtlas World - Agaricus Bio for Dogs and Cats4Life - Transfer Factor Plus You wouldn't necessarily want them on all of that at the same time, but those are a few more options. The reason I think working with a holistic vet is a good idea is that they can help you coordinate an approach as well as vouch for supplements that they use. On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:I've given Ember a product called Liquid DMG off and on. Vetri Science seems to be a reliable company, and I don't believe there's a risk of side effects. You might want to discuss this with a holistic vet in your area. Everything you mention is great to have. I don't think you'll need much else. What you mainly want to do is beware of how the cats are behaving, how well they eat and drink, how well they use the box, and how everyone generally feels. Your eyes, ears, and attention to detail are more useful than anything you could buy. That said, be careful not to scrutinize too much. As others have said, FeLV+ cats get illnesses that may have nothing to do with FeLV, and those are often treatable. Lance On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:07 AM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:Hi All, So I am getting myself ready for the emergency situations, since the most important thing with felv cats is not to let them get sick. I am wondering what exactly do I need? So far I've got on my list: scale to monitor their weight, thermometer, antibiotics (in case i see any scratches) to prevent infections. I definitely need something good for immune system. I also talked with the vet and we decided to put them on interferon alpha...may help. Please, members with felv experience, let me know what else could be helpful. Thanks,Kasia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Getting myself ready for the battle-El
Hi Kasia, I've used the classic formula but haven't been impressed with it, so I only use the TF plus Tri Factor for FeLV and other sick cats. It is expensive, especially if you're giving it to several cats. I wouldn't use it on a cancer kitty though because you don't want to stimulate the immune system. I haven't used ImmunoRegulin as it's not available here.I don't use L-lysine but if I did I'd probably give an Arginine supplement too.El From: kasia...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Getting myself ready for the battle-El Hi El, I actually have at home Transfer Factor Classic, I used it last year for my late cat. What is the dosage, do you remember? So, your kitties were ok for about five years after being diagnosed? Thanks,Kasia From: designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, June 7, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Getting myself ready for the battle I've used Transfer Factor Plus Tri Factor for FeLV+ cats for several years. It's the best immune booster I've tried. Also, I use the Agaricus Blazeii. Although all of the FeLV+ cats that I've taken in have come very ill and emaciated, once all the infections are treated and their immune system is built up, they haven't had for a few years. Mattie is the third one that has gotten lymphoma though after being healthy for 4 1/2 - 5 years. That seems to be the pattern here. One came with endocarditis but he lived 5 years with the right medical treatment and the transfer factor. El From: lini...@fastmail.fm Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:54:00 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Getting myself ready for the battle I see that I wrote beware where I meant be aware. A few options you may want to discuss with a holistic vet: Thorne Research - ImmugenAtlas World - Agaricus Bio for Dogs and Cats4Life - Transfer Factor Plus You wouldn't necessarily want them on all of that at the same time, but those are a few more options. The reason I think working with a holistic vet is a good idea is that they can help you coordinate an approach as well as vouch for supplements that they use. On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:I've given Ember a product called Liquid DMG off and on. Vetri Science seems to be a reliable company, and I don't believe there's a risk of side effects. You might want to discuss this with a holistic vet in your area. Everything you mention is great to have. I don't think you'll need much else. What you mainly want to do is beware of how the cats are behaving, how well they eat and drink, how well they use the box, and how everyone generally feels. Your eyes, ears, and attention to detail are more useful than anything you could buy. That said, be careful not to scrutinize too much. As others have said, FeLV+ cats get illnesses that may have nothing to do with FeLV, and those are often treatable. Lance On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:07 AM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:Hi All, So I am getting myself ready for the emergency situations, since the most important thing with felv cats is not to let them get sick. I am wondering what exactly do I need? So far I've got on my list: scale to monitor their weight, thermometer, antibiotics (in case i see any scratches) to prevent infections. I definitely need something good for immune system. I also talked with the vet and we decided to put them on interferon alpha...may help. Please, members with felv experience, let me know what else could be helpful. Thanks,Kasia ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers. El From: lini...@fastmail.fm Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:35:42 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember Thank you, Beth, Sharyl, and Bonnie for thinking about my girl. She has a vet visit tomorrow. We’ll see how the lung mass has changed, and we’ll get a new cbc. Ember isn’t eating as well as I would like, but she sure loves her treats (Prescription Diet t/d – it could be worse). I've also caught her sitting in a slightly unusual position, and that makes me really hope that she's not in any pain or even mild discomfort. On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: You've got it, Lance! You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and prayers. Bonnie -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to leave our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts. Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc
Hi LanceEmber may have lymphoma. Several of the FeLV+ cats I've had stay extremely healthy for about 4 1/2 - 5 years and then develop lymphoma. I've had one with cns lymphoma, another with mediastinal lymphoma, and now also Mattie. Her tumours couldn't be removed but went away with iv chemo within the first month. One of them took up most of her bladder so it was inoperable.To determine what it is, and if you choose to treat it, you need biopsies taken at a good radiologist. They can be done using ultrasound and fna. Mattie has done extremely well on chemo and went into remission after a month. Only one week did she have a bit low wbc but that went up. I have her on a supplement called Onco Support by Rx Vitamins and now the Agaricus blazei. Hope this helps,El From: lini...@fastmaail.fm Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:52:39 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc We tested Ember again, and her wbc had gone back up to ~3.85, which is normal. Unfortunately, two other symptoms have manifested. Ember's left pupil, which has been abnormally large due to anisocoria likely caused by FeLV, is now fully open. We don't know why this is, but the vet thinks this could indicate cancer. In addition to that, the vet x-rayed Ember to see if she might have a fungal infection, and she found a mass in Ember's lungs. Ember doesn't have breathing difficulties, but the mass is such that there isn't a good way to access it. I really don't want to subject her to a thoracotomy. A urine test turned up no antigen for a fungal infection. I'm not sure what to do next. The vet said that another vet could do a CT scan. The same clinic (about an hour and a half away) could also do a test of Ember's left eye to see if cancer is involved. I don't know what that information would get us, however. Does anyone have experience with eye cancer or lung cancer in cats? I've been reading about Agaricus blazeii thanks to KG BarnCats, and I'm hoping that might slow the progress of whatever it is we're dealing with. I'm going to post to the feline cancer list on Yahoo!, but I'm wondering what people here might think. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc
Thank you for this timely info! One of my FeLV+ cats, Mattie was diagnosed with high grade lymphoma on Dec. 22nd. I've had her for 5 years now and she's done well. Her only symptoms were those of a bladder infection. Her bloodwork was great. She's been undergoing chemo since Dec. 27th and this last week, her lymphocyte count was a bit too low.After 4 weeks, she went into complete remission, and is doing well other than the slightly low wbc. She weighs 13 lbs, eats well, etc.. I'm also giving her onco support by rx vitamins, but no transfer factor. I was looking for something specifically to raise the wbc. I'll order this tomorrow and hopefully will get it quickly. How much did you give you cat undergoing chemo?Thank you so much again!El Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:13:36 -0500 From: kgbarnc...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc consider adding Agaricus blazeii for white cell stimulation, obtaining from atlasworldusa.com . It worked great for my felv- boy when he was going thru chemo for multi site lymphoma, the vets were astonished how great his bloodwork was. Normally the white count would drop dramatically but his stayed normal. I get the human capsules then mix it in the wet food. He is super fussy but ate it without problem. It is not very expensive, about $1 a day. the agaricus blazeii is a standard support recommended by Dr Alice Villa Lobos, one of the top feline cancer speciaiists in the US. Google immuno nutrition villa lobos to find out more. another thing to consider is transfer factor, more expensive but it is the stuff in mother's milk that stimulates, trains and regulates the immune system. It works for any mammal. There are several versions, the more expensive one with tri-factor is supposed to tune up the immune system over 400 per cent. I used to use it but had to give up due to the cost. Can be bought on Amazon. good luck KG On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Thanks for relating your experience, Sally. That link might come in handy, too. I wish we had more to go on than anecdotes, though. It seems like there haven't been that many studies done to confirm what treatments work best. I'm considering: ImmunoRegulinVirbagen OmegaLTCINeupogen I don't know if I can afford Neupogen, and when I talked to my vet about it, she seemed uncertain. It has a reputation for causing bone pain, and if I can help it, I don't want to give Ember something that makes her miserable. Virbagen Omega is expensive, but I know (roughly) how much it costs, and it's worth it to me if it can help Ember. There seems to have been some success in its use. Unfortunately, it still doesn't seem to be available here, and shipping is a good chunk of its cost. LTCI and ImmunoRegulin seem affordable and potentially useful. When I was last looking into these options, there wasn't much evidence to support LTCI's benefits. It seems to have become more accepted over the last few years, but I'm still feeling cautious about it. I'll do a more thorough scan of the list's archives soon, and I'm going to call a few vets tomorrow. Lance On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote: Lance, Two of my cats got this. Junior went from being anemic to borderline low and his fevers which had been as high as 106.5 went away. Now As I am reading more I wish I had kept him on it. Tiny wasa asymptomatic but he was positive. He actually passed 4 mos after testing positive. The felv probably played a part. He most likely threw a clot I was with him and was too sudden. There was no emergency vet visit. The worst part was he died on Chstmas day. I miss them all.I ordered the IR from Revival Pet supply. I ordered mine direct does not require a presciption. http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html It was more if my vet ordered it. I took the vial in to the vet's office and a tech gave him the injection IV. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc
That's great news about Danny! I hope he continues to do well. It gives me hope. Thanks! El Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:50:18 -0500 From: kgbarnc...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc I gave 1/2 agaricus blazeii human capsule twice a day, so he got 600 mg/day. recommended on the pet bottle was 45 mg/lb so my dose was a little more than that. Danny went into remission in month and is still cancer free 6 years later. :) KG On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:25 PM, designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com wrote: Thank you for this timely info! One of my FeLV+ cats, Mattie was diagnosed with high grade lymphoma on Dec. 22nd. I've had her for 5 years now and she's done well. Her only symptoms were those of a bladder infection. Her bloodwork was great. She's been undergoing chemo since Dec. 27th and this last week, her lymphocyte count was a bit too low.After 4 weeks, she went into complete remission, and is doing well other than the slightly low wbc. She weighs 13 lbs, eats well, etc.. I'm also giving her onco support by rx vitamins, but no transfer factor. I was looking for something specifically to raise the wbc. I'll order this tomorrow and hopefully will get it quickly. How much did you give you cat undergoing chemo? Thank you so much again! El Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:13:36 -0500 From: kgbarnc...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc consider adding Agaricus blazeii for white cell stimulation, obtaining from atlasworldusa.com . It worked great for my felv- boy when he was going thru chemo for multi site lymphoma, the vets were astonished how great his bloodwork was. Normally the white count would drop dramatically but his stayed normal. I get the human capsules then mix it in the wet food. He is super fussy but ate it without problem. It is not very expensive, about $1 a day. the agaricus blazeii is a standard support recommended by Dr Alice Villa Lobos, one of the top feline cancer speciaiists in the US. Google immuno nutrition villa lobos to find out more. another thing to consider is transfer factor, more expensive but it is the stuff in mother's milk that stimulates, trains and regulates the immune system. It works for any mammal. There are several versions, the more expensive one with tri-factor is supposed to tune up the immune system over 400 per cent. I used to use it but had to give up due to the cost. Can be bought on Amazon. good luck KG On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: Thanks for relating your experience, Sally. That link might come in handy, too. I wish we had more to go on than anecdotes, though. It seems like there haven't been that many studies done to confirm what treatments work best. I'm considering: ImmunoRegulinVirbagen OmegaLTCINeupogen I don't know if I can afford Neupogen, and when I talked to my vet about it, she seemed uncertain. It has a reputation for causing bone pain, and if I can help it, I don't want to give Ember something that makes her miserable. Virbagen Omega is expensive, but I know (roughly) how much it costs, and it's worth it to me if it can help Ember. There seems to have been some success in its use. Unfortunately, it still doesn't seem to be available here, and shipping is a good chunk of its cost. LTCI and ImmunoRegulin seem affordable and potentially useful. When I was last looking into these options, there wasn't much evidence to support LTCI's benefits. It seems to have become more accepted over the last few years, but I'm still feeling cautious about it. I'll do a more thorough scan of the list's archives soon, and I'm going to call a few vets tomorrow. Lance On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote: Lance, Two of my cats got this. Junior went from being anemic to borderline low and his fevers which had been as high as 106.5 went away. Now As I am reading more I wish I had kept him on it. Tiny wasa asymptomatic but he was positive. He actually passed 4 mos after testing positive. The felv probably played a part. He most likely threw a clot I was with him and was too sudden. There was no emergency vet visit. The worst part was he died on Chstmas day. I miss them all.I ordered the IR from Revival Pet supply. I ordered mine direct does not require a presciption. http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html It was more if my vet ordered it. I took the vial in to the vet's office and a tech gave him the injection IV. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Black salve
Hi,Black salve (Neoplasene) isn't quackery. However it must be used with caution on a cat. I would strongly encourage anyone wishing to use it to join the Yahoo group -http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBlackSalveNeoplaseneCancerForum/?yguid=323115008 It is a group with valuable information and very supportive.El Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:32:09 -0500 From: felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Black salve I have my doubts about this black salve too. If it is that much of a miracle salve vets would surely be using it. I fear this is just another quack making money on desperate people who want to save their pets. Human cancer victims fall for these things all the time, and it is unbelievably cruel to take money from people and give them false hope. Lorrie (aka older and wiser) On 02-19, Ruth Parsons wrote: Hi I appreciate all the info on FELV this group provides. I research treatments suggested and look for a variety of reliable sources to help me care for our cat, who is presently thriving despite 2 positive tests. The recent postings regarding black salve and Deva Khalsa gave me some concern. The links below, and others, raise issues about this product and the products promoted by this person. Just FYI. 1. [1]http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar. html 2. [2]http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2010/07/double-helix-water-more-magic-wate r-quackery/ References 1. http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/eschar.html 2. http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2010/07/double-helix-water-more-magic-water-quackery/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test
Hi Pam,I have had cats that test positive on the SNAP test, and then again one month later. Two months later the same cats have tested negative and then negative again after 6 months and continue to be negative a few years later. I have one cat that still tested positive 6 months later but tested negative 2 years later, all the while living with positives.There's always hope.El Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:38:03 -0500 From: pam_nor...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Update on Poppy/IFA test Test is in from IDEXX. Poppy is IFA negative! BUT they did another Elisa (the first was done in-house) she is still Elisa positive. So tell me now what this means. I have to go off to Madison right now but when I get back I will re-read all the links with this confirmed info in hand. My woman who is willing to take Poppy into her FeLeuk positive sanctuary, says she will test positive on the next IFA in a month all this IFA means is that she does not have melanoma or something else. My vet is kinda skeptical too. But you all are the ones who are hands on every day (well, so is my woman with the sanctuary) but I need your input. My intention now is to get her to the vet for worming. That wasn't done for some reason. Will probably try to do that when I transition her out of the condo. Into a crate. Then she will have my spare room, with one hiding place. I have a twin bed in there but am going to take the frame out put the mattresses on the floor cause I don't want her hiding under the bed in the dark all the time. Same with stuff up against the wall. There is a low to the floor desk I guess I will let her have that but will barricade everything else leave several open crates with towels around also. Meanwhile her appetite is very good. I KNOW she wants to be with other cats, but I just can't put one of my negative kitties in there. Marie, at the sanctuary, would loan me a nice cat but it would be positive that would eliminate any little chance Poppy might have. Your thoughts, please please. Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI thank you!
Hi Sean,Tcyte (Dr. Beardsley) was the original company who developed the LTCI. The LTCI was very reasonably priced. Tcyte was in the midst of trials. The marketing rights? were sold to Imulan in the midst of the initial trials, who then inflated the price terribly. Imulan then sold (probably the marketing rights) to Agrilabs.I'm glad that Tcyte is once again marketing the LTCI.I also hope Dr. Beardsley further develops this product.El Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:48:59 -0400 From: nonservia...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI thank you! Beth, Sharyl, Andy, thank you so much for your concern and help! And Andy, thank you for the link to tcyte.com—I was unaware of that site. Fortunately, I got good news from the staff at the vet today: Felix's doctor was able to order the medicine using one of the numbers I sniffed up from the Internet! I didn't speak to her directly, so I'm not sure which one worked, but it would have been associated with either AgriLabs or its subdivision ProLabs, which I believe bought out Imulan, the company that used to manufacture the medicine. (Of course, now I have no idea how TCyte factors into all this...) If and when my wife or I speak to her directly, I will find out which number worked and share it here. Thanks again, with all my heart! Sean ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage
Hi Stacy,I have used Neoplasene and would never use it on a symptomatic FeLV cat. It is also very hard on the liver as the liver has to process all the toxins. A very informative group where you can get info is - http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBlackSalveNeoplaseneCancerForum/?yguid=323115008 El Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 08:21:16 -0800 From: stacy_zac...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage Hi Natalie: Thank you for the suggestion. My vet actually told me about the black salve (neoplasene from buck mountain I believe) but his cytology report came back sort of inconclusive and consistent with feline eosinophilic granuloma complex). So I'm not sure if those remedies/treatments would help him if they aren't cancerous. I told my vet I had been willing to try the neoplasene if it was cancer. So I will have to see what the dermatologist says. In the meantime, I'll keep trying him with the salmon oil, transfer factor tri factor plus, interferon, lysine, coq10 etc. that he's on. He is due for an LTCI injection on Saturday also. I am starting to give him fluids once a week also. His skin is so tough though - very hard to get through! Thanks to you and everyone for your help. We are so happy to have a forum like this. Stacy and Spanky Message: 10 Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 10:21:43 -0400 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage Message-ID: 1cea01cb7dbd$efae4e60$cf0aeb...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This herbal concoction (Chaparral, Neem, Andrographis,Graviola powders brewed like tea and frozen down into a more concentrated tincture) is perfectly good for cats - I used it for a cat with cancer and it is being used on rabbits, dogs, horses so far and originally actually meant for people (still is). There's also a black salve that is used on external cancerous tumors, attacks ONLY cancer cells - doesn't touch normal cells. Being used right now on a cat that had squamous cell cancer on the cheek and jawbone. Unfortunately, it was too late for the cat I used it on because the adopters didn't get him to me in time - they thought he was getting fat (although he was skin and bones, with a huge stomach, which was cancer). However, his remaining time was great quality of life! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Brockman Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 6:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage Just please anyone that uses herbs make sure they are truly cat safe and don't interact with any other medicines the animal may be on already. I have seen some people recommend herbs for pets that are actually toxic. I'm not saying you do this Natalie, just speaking in general. Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 17:52:00 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage Stacey and Spanky, Would you be open to try a tonic made from herbs that doesn't taste great, but can be disguised. It is used for curing cancer, but may just help with this and as a fringe benefit, even help other symptoms of FeLV - it hasn't been tried for that yet. Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage
The cancer cells that are killed have to be processed through the liver. Neoplasene (black salve) is highly effective but caution must be used. Stacy, if you're considering using it please join that forum. Everyone on there uses it and would be of great help.El Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 18:38:59 -0500 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage That is NOT the black salve that I'm was referring to - harms nothing other than cancerous cells. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of designercats Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 6:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage Hi Stacy,I have used Neoplasene and would never use it on a symptomatic FeLV cat. It is also very hard on the liver as the liver has to process all the toxins. A very informative group where you can get info is - http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBlackSalveNeoplaseneCancerForum/?yguid =323115008 El Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 08:21:16 -0800 From: stacy_zac...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage Hi Natalie: Thank you for the suggestion. My vet actually told me about the black salve (neoplasene from buck mountain I believe) but his cytology report came back sort of inconclusive and consistent with feline eosinophilic granuloma complex). So I'm not sure if those remedies/treatments would help him if they aren't cancerous. I told my vet I had been willing to try the neoplasene if it was cancer. So I will have to see what the dermatologist says. In the meantime, I'll keep trying him with the salmon oil, transfer factor tri factor plus, interferon, lysine, coq10 etc. that he's on. He is due for an LTCI injection on Saturday also. I am starting to give him fluids once a week also. His skin is so tough though - very hard to get through! Thanks to you and everyone for your help. We are so happy to have a forum like this. Stacy and Spanky Message: 10 Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 10:21:43 -0400 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage Message-ID: 1cea01cb7dbd$efae4e60$cf0aeb...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This herbal concoction (Chaparral, Neem, Andrographis,Graviola powders brewed like tea and frozen down into a more concentrated tincture) is perfectly good for cats - I used it for a cat with cancer and it is being used on rabbits, dogs, horses so far and originally actually meant for people (still is). There's also a black salve that is used on external cancerous tumors, attacks ONLY cancer cells - doesn't touch normal cells. Being used right now on a cat that had squamous cell cancer on the cheek and jawbone. Unfortunately, it was too late for the cat I used it on because the adopters didn't get him to me in time - they thought he was getting fat (although he was skin and bones, with a huge stomach, which was cancer). However, his remaining time was great quality of life! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Brockman Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 6:16 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage Just please anyone that uses herbs make sure they are truly cat safe and don't interact with any other medicines the animal may be on already. I have seen some people recommend herbs for pets that are actually toxic. I'm not saying you do this Natalie, just speaking in general. Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 17:52:00 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Eosinophilic granuloma in Spanky's nasal passage Stacey and Spanky, Would you be open to try a tonic made from herbs that doesn't taste great, but can be disguised. It is used for curing cancer, but may just help with this and as a fringe benefit, even help other symptoms of FeLV - it hasn't been tried for that yet. Natalie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman
RE: Has anyone heard of this new FELV drug - is it real or fake?
Andrew, I'm really new here with newly diagnosed FeLV+ foster cats but this treatment is real. It is expensive. My understanding is that it's by injection only and for the first month, weekly injections must be given and then monthly injections. It is only available in the US. I live in Canada (a few kilometers from the border) and will be getting it and starting it within a few weeks. My vet's working on it. I really, really hope it works!! El Message: 8 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 06:41:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Has anyone heard of this new FELV drug - is it real or fake? To: FeLVTalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Someone sent me this link: http://www.imulan.com/ and on one page of the web site it says, Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI) is an conditionally approved treatment aid* for cats infected with Feline Leukemia Virus (FeLV) and/ or Feline Immunodeficiency Virus (FIV) and the associated symptoms of lymphopenia, opportunistic infection, anemia, granulocytopenia, and thrombocytopenia. LTCI is an immune regulating protein that is a potent regulator of lymphocyte and interleukin-2 production. Do any of y'all know if this is for real, or is it just a scam to take advantage of those of us willing to try anything to help our FELV+ cats? Neither of the Vets we take our cats to has heard of this new drug. The person who sent me the link has an FIV+ cat who is doing well, but never tried this new drug - just heard of it and pointed me at it. Any information you have - opinions, facts, speculation, any feedback - is very welcome. I'm trying to find a Vet who knows about it, and might prescribe it if it might strengthen PC's (Problem Child, Purring Cat) immune system. Thanks in advance for your help. Purrrs to you and yours, Andrew of Andrew Lizzie Texas Highway 36, Purrkins Diesel Cat, Little Fuzzy (Fuzz-Xena), Zoro, Zippy, Wellington, - and PC! (FELV+) - and Alpha, Beta, Tactical, Suzi-Q, - and Pinkie, and 4 mini-tigers and Tiger Tom (fosters) - in East Bernard, Texas USA _ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207
RE: Junior's story
Sally, he is beautiful! I'm sorry you lost him so young. He reminds me of my little Cami. Thank you for sharing his story. El Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 20:54:24 -0400 From: Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Junior's story To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I just posted a tribute to Junior on my website. There is a picture of him as a baby. He is a very condensed version of his life. Today is the three week anniversary of when he joined his brother Tiny in heaven. He touched my life and I will always remember him. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/viewtopic.php?f=5t=62 Sally -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20080404/8cf1413f/attachment.html _ Turn every day into $1000. Learn more at SignInAndWIN.ca http://g.msn.ca/ca55/213
RE: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 38, Issue 23
Hi Wendy, Thanks for asking. Cami is better. It's been a long rough road so far for these magnificent 7. All are better now and I'm close to $5000. poorer. Of course this includes neutering, spaying, blood panels, dentals and numerous extractions for infected teeth, vaxing, ear flushing, meds, etc., etc.. Whew! And of course I'm exhausted... I will keep them until they get tested again and then try to find forever homes for at least some of the negatives. Cami still gets long acting injectable antibiotics twice weekly. We tried the injectable tetracycline a while back and almost lost him. He was then extremely ill for days. I've been giving him Transfer Factor Plus Tri Factor also along with numerous supplements and vit B12 and everything combined seems to have kicked in his immune system finally. He has a heart murmur also - the vet thinks the systemic infection he had damaged his valves. When he's stronger, he'll have a cardiac ultrasound. Each one of them has minor relapses with URI's but are over them within a few days now. The ones that came up FeLV negative also had really horrible blood panels with low red blood cell counts, etc. I have had the negatives vaxed twice now and will get all retested in a few months. I have been reading the archives and learning a lot. I have kept 5 and now 6 of the 7 together. They were sheltered together and 2 (1 positive and 1 negative) of them survived by physically taking care of each other there so I can't separate those 2. They sleep together, comfort each other, etc.. I have been so torn about that. The negative one is a dwarf. I live in the lower mainland of BC Canada close to the border. If there is anyone on this list who lives in the area and has a vet who is very FeLV knowledgeable, please let me know. Immulan isn't available in Canada but my vet is right on the border (Zero ave) and will get it for me. I understand it's very expensive but I'm sure it's cheaper than treating the illnesses associated. If anyone has any experience with Immulan (positive or negative), I'd love to hear it. If anyone has any advice, ideas, etc. please pass it on to me. For those who use DMG, how much do you give? Thanks El Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:35:49 -0700 (PDT) From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unresponsive URI To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How is your baby doing, El? Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ _ Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212
Unresponsive URI
Sorry, I messed up the subject box - too tired. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 38, Issue 23Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:48:15 -0700 Hi Wendy,Thanks for asking. Cami is better. It's been a long rough road so far for these magnificent 7. All are better now and I'm close to $5000. poorer. Of course this includes neutering, spaying, blood panels, dentals and numerous extractions for infected teeth, vaxing, ear flushing, meds, etc., etc.. Whew! And of course I'm exhausted... I will keep them until they get tested again and then try to find forever homes for at least some of the negatives. Cami still gets long acting injectable antibiotics twice weekly. We tried the injectable tetracycline a while back and almost lost him. He was then extremely ill for days. I've been giving him Transfer Factor Plus Tri Factor also along with numerous supplements and vit B12 and everything combined seems to have kicked in his immune system finally. He has a heart murmur also - the vet thinks the systemic infection he had damaged his valves. When he's stronger, he'll have a cardiac ultrasound. Each one of them has minor relapses with URI's but are over them within a few days now. The ones that came up FeLV negative also had really horrible blood panels with low red blood cell counts, etc. I have had the negatives vaxed twice now and will get all retested in a few months.I have been reading the archives and learning a lot. I have kept 5 and now 6 of the 7 together. They were sheltered together and 2 (1 positive and 1 negative) of them survived by physically taking care of each other there so I can't separate those 2. They sleep together, comfort each other, etc.. I have been so torn about that. The negative one is a dwarf. I live in the lower mainland of BC Canada close to the border. If there is anyone on this list who lives in the area and has a vet who is very FeLV knowledgeable, please let me know.Immulan isn't available in Canada but my vet is right on the border (Zero ave) and will get it for me. I understand it's very expensive but I'm sure it's cheaper than treating the illnesses associated. If anyone has any experience with Immulan (positive or negative), I'd love to hear it.If anyone has any advice, ideas, etc. please pass it on to me. For those who use DMG, how much do you give? ThanksEl Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:35:49 -0700 (PDT) From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Unresponsive URI To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How is your baby doing, El? Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Sign in now! Windows Live Messenger is giving you a chance to win $1000 a day until May 12th Check out SignInAndWIN.ca today! _ Turn every day into $1000. Learn more at SignInAndWIN.ca http://g.msn.ca/ca55/213
Unresponsive URI
Hi Wendy, I have him on A/D and Recovery. Recovery is newer and is sometimes more palatable when they don't like A/D. His URI has never left. He's been on antibiotics for a month and he gets a little better and then worse. We're going to the vet in a few minutes. The other little ones have all improved radically but not him. His blood panel was better than the others but he's so much sicker than the rest. The vet has some interferon alpha. If he doesn't improve I'm afraid I'll lose him. El _
Unresponsive URI
Hi, Little Milli is getting better. She still has diahrea to some degree but it's getting better. Her URI is getting much better although she still coughs and sneezes a bit. One of the other FeLV+ Cami has a very very stubborn URI. Initially on injectable antibiotics he got better really quick and then has been sliding downhill ever since. We've tried several antibiotics and he still is very sick. His mucus is green (sorry to be so graphic). Any ideas about what other antibiotics we can try? He's been on Zithromycin, Chlorapalm, Baytril PLX injectable combo. He responds for a bit but then it gets bad again. He is a beautiful sweet, sweet orange and white cat with the most luxurious coat I've ever seen. He is an absolute sweetheart. He's approx 2 yrs old. I have been syringe feeding him Recovery food mixed with multi vitamin, B complex, Omega oils, L-Lysine, Collostrum. I'm still waiting for the Transfer Factor and the Interferon alpha. Thanks...El _
Unresponsive URI
Hi Wendy, He hasn't always had the Recovery food. He prefers dry food but is not eating. His nose was stuck shut and his entire face was encrusted with pus when I pulled him from the shelter. He seems to get a bit better but then worse. I've been syringing him every few hours for the last two days to get supplements and some nutrition into him. I'm so very worried about him. I'll ask the vet in the morning about doxycycline or a baytril clavamox combo. I've read about these in the archives. El _
