Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[catatonya]

Beth,
   
  I'm so sorry to read about Stamp.  I hope you are doing as well as can be 
expected.
   
  tonya

Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the 
FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.
   
  Beth

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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[Gina WN]

I'm so sorry to hear about Stamp.
   
  Gina

Beth Noren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Beth,
  I am so sorry for your loss of Stamp.  I had to pts Ally last summer due to 
FIP, it is a rotten disease.
  Peace to you and yours,
  Beth N.
  

 
  On 4/17/07, Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had Stamp PTS this 
morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the FIP, was jaundiced, losing 
weight, and anemic.
   
  Beth

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Re: Stamp went tp the bridge

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

I understand.  It takes so much out of you without you realizing it.
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On Apr 18, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Gussies mom wrote:

Thank you everyone. I think I have had enough of FeLV for awhile.  
There is a new FeLV long haired  orange and white kitten at the  
shelter and I know they want to me to take it, but I don't want to  
expose him to FIP. I think I could have handled the FeLV in Stamp,  
but the FIP on top of it, no.
It's funny how such a small bundle of black fur can have such  
personality and such make such an imprint on your heart.


I'll check back in once in awhile, but I think I need a break for now.

Take care,
 Beth

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RE: Stamp went tp the bridge

[Gussies mom]

Thank you everyone. I think I have had enough of FeLV for awhile. There is a 
new FeLV long haired  orange and white kitten at the shelter and I know they 
want to me to take it, but I don't want to expose him to FIP. I think I could 
have handled the FeLV in Stamp, but the FIP on top of it, no.
  It's funny how such a small bundle of black fur can have such personality and 
such make such an imprint on your heart.
   
  I'll check back in once in awhile, but I think I need a break for now.
   
  Take care,
   Beth

   
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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[Beth Noren]

Beth,
I am so sorry for your loss of Stamp.  I had to pts Ally last summer due to
FIP, it is a rotten disease.
Peace to you and yours,
Beth N.



On 4/17/07, Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the
FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.

Beth

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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[C & J]

I am so sorry for your loss.  I am sure Stamp is very grateful for all the love 
he has received.

Cassandra

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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:11 AM
  Subject: Stamp went to the bridge


  I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the FIP, 
was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.

  Beth


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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

Poor Stamp.  I'm sure my big kitty Jack Jack (he passed away from  
hypertrophic cardiomyopathy last spring) has met him already.  He's  
quite a kitty love bug.

Taylor Scobie Humphrey
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On Apr 17, 2007, at 8:11 AM, Gussies mom wrote:

I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable  
from the FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.


Beth

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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[elizabeth trent]

Beth,
I am so very sorry.  My heart is with you.

elizabeth


On 4/17/07, Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the
FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.

Beth

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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[wendy]

I forgot about this until Lance mentioned it.  I love
how Stamp got his name too.  He was lucky to have you
Beth.

:)
Wendy

--- Lance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm saddened to see that Stamp has passed. I
> remember the story of  
> him being named Stamp because he was found at a post
> office... one of  
> many things about him I'm sure you'll treasure.
> You're in my prayers.  
> Take care.
> 
> Lance
> 
> 
> On Apr 17, 2007, at 8:11 AM, Gussies mom wrote:
> 
> > I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very
> uncomfortable  
> > from the FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and
> anemic.
> >
> > Beth
> >
> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car"
> smell?
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> 
> 


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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[wendy]

Beth,

I am so sorry about little Stamp.  My heart goes out
to you.

:)
Wendy


--- Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very
> uncomfortable from the FIP, was jaundiced, losing
> weight, and anemic.
>
>   Beth
> 
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RE: Stamp went to the bridge

[Melissa Lind]

Beth, my heart grieves for you. What a darling name-let your happy memories
bring you joy in the future. Melissa

 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:11 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Stamp went to the bridge

 

I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the
FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.

 

Beth

  

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RE: Stamp went to the bridge

[Rosenfeldt, Diane]

I'm so sorry, Beth.  



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Subject: Stamp went to the bridge


I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the
FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.
 
Beth



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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[Nina]

Beth,
Something that helps me is to write memorials to them.  To just sit down 
and through my tears write all the wonderful quirky memories I'm 
grateful for.  To place among pasted pictures free flow words of love 
and peace.  Blessings to you in your grief my dear.  Stamp was loved and 
he loved in return.  Thank you so much for giving him a chance to know 
what HOME means.  He gets to take that with him and leave it behind with 
you as well.

Nina

Gussies mom wrote:
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the FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.
 
Beth



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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[Marissa Johnson]

Aw Beth.  So sorry to hear this!!!  I was hoping he'd pull through.  GLOW and 
hugs to you!!
   
  MJ

Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the 
FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.
   
  Beth

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what you do not know you will fear. What one fears, one destroys." 
--Chief Dan George


"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to 
protection by man from the cruelty of man The greatness of a nation and its 
moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas 
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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[Susan Loesch]

Beth, I am so sorry.

Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
  Oh Beth, I'm so sorry.  GLOW to light his path and ease your heart...
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 
- Anonymous   

  - Original Message 
From: Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:11:15 AM
Subject: Stamp went to the bridge

  I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the FIP, 
was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.
   
  Beth

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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[Sherry DeHaan]

Beth,I am soo sorry that you lost Stamp.Hugs to you.
  Sherry

Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.
   
  Beth

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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[Barb Moermond]

Oh Beth, I'm so sorry.  GLOW to light his path and ease your heart...
 
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito

"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his 
life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." 
- Anonymous



- Original Message 
From: Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:11:15 AM
Subject: Stamp went to the bridge


I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the FIP, 
was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.
 
Beth


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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[Lance]

I'm saddened to see that Stamp has passed. I remember the story of  
him being named Stamp because he was found at a post office... one of  
many things about him I'm sure you'll treasure. You're in my prayers.  
Take care.


Lance


On Apr 17, 2007, at 8:11 AM, Gussies mom wrote:

I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable  
from the FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.


Beth

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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[Leslie Lawther]

*FIP is such a horrid disease... I'm so, so sorry for your loss.  The Orion
Foundation used to have beautiful pins to support FIP research and to wear
in memory of those lost to FIP.  I have one for both Gabby and Albert
(siblings lost to FIP) and wear it all the time - It's a wonderful way to
remember them, and give to a good cause.  Visit
http://www.orionfoundation.com/*

*Leslie =^..^=*



On 4/17/07, Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the
FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.

Beth

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Re: Stamp went to the bridge

[Kelley Saveika]

Beth,

I'm so sorry for your loss.

Kelley

On 4/17/07, Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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FIP, was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.

Beth


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Stamp went to the bridge

[Gussies mom]

I had Stamp PTS this morning. He was getting very uncomfortable from the FIP, 
was jaundiced, losing weight, and anemic.
   
  Beth

   
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Re: Stamp tried to play today!

[Sally Davis]

Wendy

Stamp
woohoo!!! So glad to hear stamp is feeling better.Behavior is a good
indicator in my opinion.

Junior too is feeling better wants to rub up against you spastically like
he  used to before FeLv.
He also is finally not rough looking. His fur looks like it used to he is
grooming again.He is on his 3rd week of Baytril w/ probiotics added so no
runny poop. Due to his limited eyesight, he has moved into Eric's room. The
other cats cannot bother him there. Eric loves him. I get to be the bad guy
as usual.

Glaucoma
Someone asked about glaucoma, Junior has this in one eye. So far we are not
removing the eye as he does not seem to be in pain from it. My cat Fluffy
also has glaucoma from a traumatic injury. The eye was removed he let me
know that it hurt. I think it would depend on why your cat had glaucoma to
begin with. I cannot see it spreading to the good eye. Like the group said a
blind cat does just fine. I know Junior sees very little and nothing
closeup. He only sees movement. He does fine. He is just leery of the other
cats now. I have 7 more that come inside and one outside cat.

Thanks for such a caring group.

Sally


On 4/6/07, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Beth,

It's reassuring to hear that Stamp is still playing.
You just never know.  Sometimes life surprises us.

:)
Wendy

--- Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I went home at lunch and was putting on my necklace
> and he swatted at it!
>
>   He has been hiding so much lately and his belly is
> getting so big and I can tell his anemia is getting
> worse because he licks the floor and mortar around
> the fireplace. I had given up hope he would last
> through the week.
>   I've never kept an FIP kitty alive this long once
> they started to show signs. But then they were
> shelter cats and the choice was not mine. I guess it
> is not really mine with this foster, either, but the
> shelter is letting me decide. I hope I'm not waiting
> too long. He still eats, buit I had a kitten with a
> belly the size of a baseball once and he still ate,
> too.
>
>   Beth
>
>
>
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Re: Stamp tried to play today!

[wendy]

Beth,

It's reassuring to hear that Stamp is still playing. 
You just never know.  Sometimes life surprises us.

:)
Wendy

--- Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I went home at lunch and was putting on my necklace
> and he swatted at it!
>
>   He has been hiding so much lately and his belly is
> getting so big and I can tell his anemia is getting
> worse because he licks the floor and mortar around
> the fireplace. I had given up hope he would last
> through the week.
>   I've never kept an FIP kitty alive this long once
> they started to show signs. But then they were
> shelter cats and the choice was not mine. I guess it
> is not really mine with this foster, either, but the
> shelter is letting me decide. I hope I'm not waiting
> too long. He still eats, buit I had a kitten with a
> belly the size of a baseball once and he still ate,
> too.
>
>   Beth
>
> 
>  
> -
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Re: Stamp tried to play today!

[Marylyn]

Stamp will let you know if/when he needs help leaving this world.   Don't rush 
him.  His job is not done yet.  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gussies mom 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 12:14 PM
  Subject: Stamp tried to play today!


  I went home at lunch and was putting on my necklace and he swatted at it!

  He has been hiding so much lately and his belly is getting so big and I can 
tell his anemia is getting worse because he licks the floor and mortar around 
the fireplace. I had given up hope he would last through the week.
  I've never kept an FIP kitty alive this long once they started to show signs. 
But then they were shelter cats and the choice was not mine. I guess it is not 
really mine with this foster, either, but the shelter is letting me decide. I 
hope I'm not waiting too long. He still eats, buit I had a kitten with a belly 
the size of a baseball once and he still ate, too.

  Beth



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Re: Stamp tried to play today!

[elizabeth trent]

The boy has spunk!  And he loves his mommy.  Please give him a kiss on his
sweet head from me.

elizabeth


On 4/5/07, Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I went home at lunch and was putting on my necklace and he swatted at it!

He has been hiding so much lately and his belly is getting so big and I
can tell his anemia is getting worse because he licks the floor and mortar
around the fireplace. I had given up hope he would last through the week.
I've never kept an FIP kitty alive this long once they started to show
signs. But then they were shelter cats and the choice was not mine. I guess
it is not really mine with this foster, either, but the shelter is letting
me decide. I hope I'm not waiting too long. He still eats, buit I had a
kitten with a belly the size of a baseball once and he still ate, too.

Beth


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Stamp tried to play today!

[Gussies mom]

I went home at lunch and was putting on my necklace and he swatted at it!
   
  He has been hiding so much lately and his belly is getting so big and I can 
tell his anemia is getting worse because he licks the floor and mortar around 
the fireplace. I had given up hope he would last through the week.
  I've never kept an FIP kitty alive this long once they started to show signs. 
But then they were shelter cats and the choice was not mine. I guess it is not 
really mine with this foster, either, but the shelter is letting me decide. I 
hope I'm not waiting too long. He still eats, buit I had a kitten with a belly 
the size of a baseball once and he still ate, too.
   
  Beth
   

 
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Re: Stamp

[Gussies mom]

Thank you for asking. unfortunately I did not get home at lunch today (I saw a 
dog loose in the bank parking lot and spent my lunch hour unsuccessfully 
chasing him), so I haven't seen him since the am and am getting anxious to get 
home.
   
  He just kind of flops down next to me and lays stretched out and breathes 
heavily.He looks at me and cries.  I wake up in the middle of the night to 
check to see if he is still there. He runs out in the main part of the house, 
which I don't like because then he eats the clumping litter.
   
  I'm supposed to go to the shelter tomorrow night to clean, but I told them I 
needed to be with him instead.

wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Beth,

How is Stamp doing today? I'm trying to catch up on
emails and just read about his recent decline. 

:)
Wendy

--- Gussies mom wrote:

> I have been reading, but not participating in the
> posts the last week or so. 
> I am so sorry to hear about Slinky and Belinda's
> Fred. 
> I have an FeLV foster kitty named Stamp, who had
> started to get sick. He went to the vet and they
> said to bring him back in a week or so.His belly has
> been getting big, and I can feel the bones in his
> back although he eats fine. They could not get fluid
> from his belly last week. He now mostly lays totally
> stretched out, because I think his belly bothers
> him.
> 
> Well I took him in today, and his HCT, which was
> 28 a week and a half ago is now 20. His temp was
> 104, last week 103.5. He just finish 10 days of
> Zenequin. The vet put him on Doxy and 5mg Pred every
> day.
> They said his protein level was high and they fear
> it is FIP. He is supposed to go back to the vet
> Friday, but I fear he will not last that long. 
> 
> It seems there has been so much loss here lately.
> I have not lost a kitty in about 2 years.
> I am a huge Nanci Griffith fan, and she has a song
> that says " I cannot find a place to put this love
> away". That's the way I feel right now.
> 
> I talked to the shelter director today and we
> agreed that it was a miracle for her to find him,
> and for me to love him. He was only destined to have
> a short time, and he got to spend it in happily.
> 
> I desperately need to go home and do yard work,
> but I am going to go to the store, get him some
> roast beef, and cuddle with Stamp. If the neighbors
> don't like my weeds, the hell with them.
> 
> Beth
> 
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Re: Stamp

[wendy]

Beth,

How is Stamp doing today?  I'm trying to catch up on
emails and just read about his recent decline.  

:)
Wendy

--- Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have been reading, but not participating in the
> posts the last week or so. 
>   I am so sorry to hear about Slinky and Belinda's
> Fred. 
>   I have an FeLV  foster kitty named Stamp, who had
> started to get sick. He went to the vet and they
> said to bring him back in a week or so.His belly has
> been getting big, and I can feel the bones in his
> back although he eats fine. They could not get fluid
> from his belly last week. He now mostly lays totally
> stretched out, because I think his belly bothers
> him.
>
>   Well I took him in today, and his HCT, which was
> 28 a week and a half ago is now 20. His temp was
> 104, last week 103.5. He just finish 10 days of
> Zenequin. The vet put him on Doxy and 5mg Pred every
> day.
>   They said his protein level was high and they fear
> it is FIP. He is supposed to go back to the vet
> Friday, but I fear he will not last that long. 
>
>   It seems there has been so much loss here lately.
> I have not lost a kitty in about 2 years.
>   I am a huge Nanci Griffith fan, and she has a song
> that says " I cannot find a place to put this love
> away". That's the way I feel right now.
>
>   I talked to the shelter director today and we
> agreed that it was a miracle for her to find him,
> and for me to love him. He was only destined to have
> a short time, and he got to spend it in happily.
>
>   I desperately need to go home and do yard work,
> but I am going to go to the store, get him some
> roast beef, and cuddle with Stamp. If the neighbors
> don't like my weeds, the hell with them.
>
>   Beth
> 
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Re: Stamp

[Gussies mom]

Thank you for your kind words.
  I know FIP is hard to diagnose, but I've been through it quite a few times 
and it was my first thought before the vet even spoke it. I really don't want 
to put him through any more. I just want him to be as happy as he can be.
   
  Beth

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Weeds? Your neighbors should count themselves lucky, we still have 5 
foot high snowbanks here! I'd take weeds anyday, I'm sick of winter!
   
  It sounds like he's uncomfortable, too bad they were unable to drain any 
fluid off. If they have ultrasound, that would help guide the aspiration needle 
to the fluid pocket (or verify if there is fluid, and not a tumor).
   
  FIP is hard to diagnose. We've had several long discussions on it on this 
list, do search the archives for FIP, you will find a ton of info. My thoughts 
are with you, I'll send him peaceful thoughts of comfort.
  
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[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Weeds? Your neighbors should count themselves lucky, we still have 5 foot
high snowbanks here! I'd take weeds anyday, I'm sick of winter!

It sounds like he's uncomfortable, too bad they were unable to drain any
fluid off. If they have ultrasound, that would help guide the aspiration
needle to the fluid pocket (or verify if there is fluid, and not a tumor).

FIP is hard to diagnose. We've had several long discussions on it on this
list, do search the archives for FIP, you will find a ton of info. My
thoughts are with you, I'll send him peaceful thoughts of comfort.

Phaewryn

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Re: Stamp

[TenHouseCats]

no words, beth

but i really applaud your priorities re: your neighbors and the yard
work--that struck me.

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Re: Stamp

[Nina]

Oh Beth!  I can't tell you how sorry I am to hear this news.  I have 
been thinking about you and Stamp and hoping that no news was good 
news.  I don't even know what to say.  All I want to do is shake my fist 
and curse at the sky.  I guess I should have waited until I was more 
composed to respond.  So much sadness and pain.  I'm so sorry,

Nina

Gussies mom wrote:
I have been reading, but not participating in the posts the last week 
or so.

I am so sorry to hear about Slinky and Belinda's Fred.
I have an FeLV  foster kitty named Stamp, who had started to get sick. 
He went to the vet and they said to bring him back in a week or so.His 
belly has been getting big, and I can feel the bones in his back 
although he eats fine. They could not get fluid from his belly last 
week. He now mostly lays totally stretched out, because I think his 
belly bothers him.
 
Well I took him in today, and his HCT, which was 28 a week and a half 
ago is now 20. His temp was 104, last week 103.5. He just finish 10 
days of Zenequin. The vet put him on Doxy and 5mg Pred every day.
They said his protein level was high and they fear it is FIP. He is 
supposed to go back to the vet Friday, but I fear he will not last 
that long.
 
It seems there has been so much loss here lately. I have not lost a 
kitty in about 2 years.
I am a huge Nanci Griffith fan, and she has a song that says " I 
cannot find a place to put this love away". That's the way I feel 
right now.
 
I talked to the shelter director today and we agreed that it was a 
miracle for her to find him, and for me to love him. He was only 
destined to have a short time, and he got to spend it in happily.
 
I desperately need to go home and do yard work, but I am going to go 
to the store, get him some roast beef, and cuddle with Stamp. If the 
neighbors don't like my weeds, the hell with them.
 
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[Gussies mom]

I have been reading, but not participating in the posts the last week or so. 
  I am so sorry to hear about Slinky and Belinda's Fred. 
  I have an FeLV  foster kitty named Stamp, who had started to get sick. He 
went to the vet and they said to bring him back in a week or so.His belly has 
been getting big, and I can feel the bones in his back although he eats fine. 
They could not get fluid from his belly last week. He now mostly lays totally 
stretched out, because I think his belly bothers him.
   
  Well I took him in today, and his HCT, which was 28 a week and a half ago is 
now 20. His temp was 104, last week 103.5. He just finish 10 days of Zenequin. 
The vet put him on Doxy and 5mg Pred every day.
  They said his protein level was high and they fear it is FIP. He is supposed 
to go back to the vet Friday, but I fear he will not last that long. 
   
  It seems there has been so much loss here lately. I have not lost a kitty in 
about 2 years.
  I am a huge Nanci Griffith fan, and she has a song that says " I cannot find 
a place to put this love away". That's the way I feel right now.
   
  I talked to the shelter director today and we agreed that it was a miracle 
for her to find him, and for me to love him. He was only destined to have a 
short time, and he got to spend it in happily.
   
  I desperately need to go home and do yard work, but I am going to go to the 
store, get him some roast beef, and cuddle with Stamp. If the neighbors don't 
like my weeds, the hell with them.
   
  Beth

 
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Re: Stamp/losing weight

[Kelley Saveika]

On 3/15/07, Gussies mom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My first FeLV kitty we treated with Doxy just in case it was Hemobart. She
collapsed and threw up after I gave her her meds one day and we rushed her
to the Emergency vet to have her PTS. She was in great pain. We think she
got a clot in her leg. This is why I am hesitant to medicate these cats a
lot. I wish I hadn't done it, because I realize now she was never going to
get better and I tortured her by medicating her and force feeding her so
much right to the end. Since Stamp is eating I am more willing to try
things.

I will try to get some Doxy at the shelter tonight.

I am worried now that it is FIP. He eats fine, but his belly sags and that
may be why I feel the bones in his back even tough he is eating fine - his
belly is pulling his skin. I remember seeing this in a rash of kittens I had
a few years ago with FIP. It would also explain the rapid breathing even
though he is not severly anemic.

I appreciate the comments about Science Diet. I know it is not the best,
but certainly not the worst and Stamp does get other food besides, including
canned Nutro kitten and baby food.
Unfortunately, I have 6 cats of my own, about 6 ferals, and Stamp is my
6th foster. So that makes 18 cats (and 1 dog) I am feeding. I would prefer
to feed Nutro, but I am doing the best I can on my budget. The canned food
all comes out of my pocket. I tried Innova and Wellnes canned and nobody
would eat it. His coat was full and shiny until a couple weeks ago, so it is
not the food.

Beth






Boy, I hope it isn't FIP.


I think that sometimes you can torture cats by medicating them and force
feeding them when they don't have a chance to get better.  But often they DO
get better, if not "cured" then better enough to live for quite a while
longer.  I know it is a hard decision to make.

I do rescue myself, and have so far resisted the lure of the Science Diet
program.  The bad thing about this program, IMHO, is that you have to
promote Science Diet food to your adopters and I refuse to do that.   It is
such a mixed bag, because it IS better food than what a lot of shelters have
to feed, which is Wal Mart food and the like.  I just don't want to have to
promote it.

Anyway, that's getting off the subject now.  Good luck with little Stamp.

Kelley


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Re: Stamp/losing weight

[Gussies mom]

My first FeLV kitty we treated with Doxy just in case it was Hemobart. She 
collapsed and threw up after I gave her her meds one day and we rushed her to 
the Emergency vet to have her PTS. She was in great pain. We think she got a 
clot in her leg. This is why I am hesitant to medicate these cats a lot. I wish 
I hadn't done it, because I realize now she was never going to get better and I 
tortured her by medicating her and force feeding her so much right to the end. 
Since Stamp is eating I am more willing to try things.
   
  I will try to get some Doxy at the shelter tonight. 
   
  I am worried now that it is FIP. He eats fine, but his belly sags and that 
may be why I feel the bones in his back even tough he is eating fine - his 
belly is pulling his skin. I remember seeing this in a rash of kittens I had a 
few years ago with FIP. It would also explain the rapid breathing even though 
he is not severly anemic.
   
  I appreciate the comments about Science Diet. I know it is not the best, but 
certainly not the worst and Stamp does get other food besides, including canned 
Nutro kitten and baby food.
  Unfortunately, I have 6 cats of my own, about 6 ferals, and Stamp is my 6th 
foster. So that makes 18 cats (and 1 dog) I am feeding. I would prefer to feed 
Nutro, but I am doing the best I can on my budget. The canned food all comes 
out of my pocket. I tried Innova and Wellnes canned and nobody would eat it. 
His coat was full and shiny until a couple weeks ago, so it is not the food.
   
  Beth
   
  

Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  When we started treating Grace for Hemobart, her test had come back 
neg. Since it's not always detectable, and the vet had a gut feeling 
about it, we gave her Doxy anyway and it helped.
Nina

Gussies mom wrote:
> Litter: Feline Pine. When he gets out with the other cats is when I 
> see him eat litter
> 
> No, he has not been tested for Hemobart. He was so young when the 
> anemia started. I asked the vet at that time and she said they do not 
> see Hemobart in young kittens.
> 
> I don't think Science Diet is a bad food, certainly not the absolute 
> best, but I have never had any problems with it.




 
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Re: Stamp/losing weight

[Belinda]

  Not sure what this is made out of *but pine is toxic to cats*, so if 
there is ANY pine in that litter I would change it if he is eating it.


Feline pine isn't too bad, wood is at least partially digestible and 
not highly toxic. I doubt it's the litter making him sick, which is 
one thing I wanted to eliminate.


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Re: Stamp/losing weight

[Pam Norman]

Hemobart is a very elusive bug to find.  One minute it's there in a 
smear & then it's gone. If any doubt at all, best to treat.  But be sure 
& treat with the doxy for the full length of the treatment.  It saved my 
Gus's life.


Pam

Nina wrote:
When we started treating Grace for Hemobart, her test had come back 
neg.  Since it's not always detectable, and the vet had a gut feeling 
about it, we gave her Doxy anyway and it helped.

Nina

Gussies mom wrote:
Litter: Feline Pine. When he gets out with the other cats is when I 
see him eat litter
 
No, he has not been tested for Hemobart. He was so young when the 
anemia started. I asked the vet at that time and she said they do not 
see Hemobart in young kittens.
 
I don't think Science Diet is a bad food, certainly not the absolute 
best, but I have never had any problems with it.

Re: Stamp/losing weight

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Feline pine isn't too bad, wood is at least partially digestible and not
highly toxic. I doubt it's the litter making him sick, which is one thing I
wanted to eliminate.

I would do a month of Doxyclycline, JUST IN CASE. It certainly can't hurt
anything, and if it is hemobart, that should cause an improvement (and if he
imporves while on the treatment, you'll then know he had it). It often
doesn't show up on the test anyways, so testing isn't always helpful. I
think all anemic cats should be treated as if they HAVE hemobart, as it
can't do any harm, but could save their life. Ask you vet if he/she would be
willing to TRY it, you can point out that the alternative is euthanasia, and
that should get him/her to agree that it's worth a "last ditch effort" try,
even if he/she thinks it's unlikely.

Science Diet is mostly CORN. Cats can't process the calories from corn, thus
foods made from corn are practically useless for cats. Most cats do OK on
them, because most cats have very easy to maintain weights (if anything,
most cats tend towards obesity). But when you have a frail cat that is not
keeping his weight, the very first thing you should do is feed the very best
food you can, and that means a food with MEAT as the first two ingredients
on the label. You didn't really answer my question so now that you know
that the food you are feeding him for free is causing him harm, will you try
to find a better food?

Here are some links, please don't just take my word for it, do some
research:

http://www.fda.gov/cvm/petlabel.htm
http://www.catnutrition.org/clienthandout.html
http://www.thepetcenter.com/imtop/contrast.html
http://www.thepetcenter.com/imtop/catsaredif.html
http://cats.about.com/cs/catfood/a/ingredients.htm
http://www.messybeast.com/cat-food-industry.htm
http://cats.about.com/cs/nutrition/tp/premdrycatfood.htm

Phaewryn

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Re: Stamp/losing weight

[TenHouseCats]

hemobart is a nasty little beast--often hard to find, plus it seems to be
regional.. almost three years ago now, one of my vets said that
practically every cat they were sending bloods out on was testing positive,
while other parts of the country still hadn't heard of it. one of mine had
developed anemia from it back in 2000, and that was the first time i'd ever
encountered it

(re: the high incidence here, my initial question to the vet was re: it was
actually endemic here, were the tests more sensitive now, or were they just
testing more regularly for it than they used to?)



On 3/14/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


When we started treating Grace for Hemobart, her test had come back
neg.  Since it's not always detectable, and the vet had a gut feeling
about it, we gave her Doxy anyway and it helped.
Nina

Gussies mom wrote:
> Litter: Feline Pine. When he gets out with the other cats is when I
> see him eat litter
>
> No, he has not been tested for Hemobart. He was so young when the
> anemia started. I asked the vet at that time and she said they do not
> see Hemobart in young kittens.
>
> I don't think Science Diet is a bad food, certainly not the absolute
> best, but I have never had any problems with it.






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Re: Stamp/losing weight

[Nina]

When we started treating Grace for Hemobart, her test had come back 
neg.  Since it's not always detectable, and the vet had a gut feeling 
about it, we gave her Doxy anyway and it helped.

Nina

Gussies mom wrote:
Litter: Feline Pine. When he gets out with the other cats is when I 
see him eat litter
 
No, he has not been tested for Hemobart. He was so young when the 
anemia started. I asked the vet at that time and she said they do not 
see Hemobart in young kittens.
 
I don't think Science Diet is a bad food, certainly not the absolute 
best, but I have never had any problems with it.

Re: Stamp/losing weight

[Gussies mom]

Litter: Feline Pine. When he gets out with the other cats is when I see him eat 
litter
   
  No, he has not been tested for Hemobart. He was so young when the anemia 
started. I asked the vet at that time and she said they do not see Hemobart in 
young kittens.
   
  I don't think Science Diet is a bad food, certainly not the absolute best, 
but I have never had any problems with it.

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  First questions that must be answered:
   
  What type and brand of cat litter are you using?
   
  Has he been tested for Hemobartonella?
   
  If you knew the cat food you were feeding for free was causing him harm, 
would you be willing to pay for different food?
   
  
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[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

First questions that must be answered:

What type and brand of cat litter are you using?

Has he been tested for Hemobartonella?

If you knew the cat food you were feeding for free was causing him harm,
would you be willing to pay for different food?


Phaewryn

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Re: Stamp/losing weight

[Nina]

Hi Beth,
I remember little Stamp and how he was found at a post office.  I'm 
sorry he's not doing well at the moment.  I understand your reasoning 
about not wanting to put your charges through "aggressive" treatment 
only to lose them anyway.  I really do.  However, at least in Stamp's 
case, it sounds like you are making this call without enough 
information.  Yes, a great number of felv kitties do succumb to anemia, 
but if you can find out what specifically is causing the anemia and 
treat for it, there is a much better chance that they will get better.  
You are giving Stamp Clav, and now trying Pred.  It seems to me, if you 
are willing to treat him, you might as well be treating him with 
something that the vet recommends.  We were just talking about anemic 
symptoms brought on by hemobart, treating with Doxy will help that, but 
Clav wouldn't be able to control it.  I'm sure you know different abx 
are used for different things.  Giving him steroids might help him feel 
better and they can relieve inflammation, but they also suppress the 
immune system.  It may not be the best thing for him, and again, if you 
are just trying to help him "feel" better, a different steroid, perhaps 
Dex, might be a better way to go.  Please don't dismiss the possibility 
of a blood transfusion helping Stamp at this point.  You don't know 
what's going on with him yet.  It's possible that a blood transfusion 
might give him the time he needs to discover what is truly going on and 
with proper treatment it might save his life and bring him back to health.


I'm so sorry that you and Stamp are suffering through this.  I know what 
it's like to fall in love with each and every rescue that crosses our 
path and how some dig deeper into our hearts than others.  It may be 
that Stamp has something that he won't be able to recover from, but 
there's no way to know that without further testing.  Ask your vet about 
the least invasive options to figure out what might be going on, and do 
it quickly.

Blessings and prayers,
Nina


Gussies mom wrote:

Sorry so long...
I've not been very active on this list. I try to read as many emails 
as I can, but with the rescue group lists I am on the amount of mail 
gets overwhelming.
 
I have an FeLV foster cat, Stamp. I have had him since November. I am 
at a loss with him at the moment. All my other FeLV cats died from 
anemia (I had them PTS at a PCV of about 10). The first one I treated 
aggressively, the rest I did not, as I felt I had done the wrong thing 
by shoving pills in the first one, making her unhappy, only to lose 
her anyway.
 
I have had Stamp since November. He was a kitten (still is,basically). 
He had good weight and great silky black fur. I did, however, catch 
him eating litter. I took him to the vet and he had a PCV of 22. Not 
terrible for his age (I never realized the normal PCV ranges change as 
the grow up). The vet started him on a low dose of Prednisilone. About 
2 months ago I had him retested (new vet) and it was 24.
 
Over the last couple weeks he has started to loose weight, even though 
he eats. He loves his Pet Tinic, roast beef, and Science Diet kitten 
dry (I know there are better foods, but I get it free from the shelter 
because he is a foster). I took him to the vet last week and she did a 
CBC. She said he was at the low end of normal on everything. His HCT 
(which she said is the same as PCV?) was up to 28. His WBC was 
slightly elevated. His ears seem warm sometimes, although he lays on 
the heating pad like it is the middle of winter (I'm in Atlanta, so it 
is not!). The only thing I have done different is take him off 
Prednisone after the second vet I saw claimed they didn't know he was 
FeLV positive, or they never would have prescribed it for his anemia 
(did they not read the records faxed from the other vet?!) He has been 
off that for about a month.
 
I can feel his back bone some now. He is breathing faster than normal. 
He licked the floor around the litter pan this morning (anemia). He 
cries sometimes. I started him on Clavamox (they only antibiotic I 
have). I have just never had an FeLV act this sick with a PCV that 
high. My others never started showing symptoms until it was around a 
17 (severly anemic).
The shelter wanted to know if I weanted to do a blood transfusion. I 
know with nonregenerative anemia this won't give him more than a 
couple extra weeks, so, no. Any suggestions that won't be terribly 
invasive? I would thing the quickened breathing would be the anemia. I 
started him back on the prednisone last night. (1/2 of a 5mg tab that 
I had left over from my FIV cat) Should I have givern him the other 
half this morning also? This is way more than he was getting before, 
but he is bigger.
 
I love this little boy so much.
 
Beth



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Stamp/losing weight

[Gussies mom]

Sorry so long...
  I've not been very active on this list. I try to read as many emails as I 
can, but with the rescue group lists I am on the amount of mail gets 
overwhelming.
   
  I have an FeLV foster cat, Stamp. I have had him since November. I am at a 
loss with him at the moment. All my other FeLV cats died from anemia (I had 
them PTS at a PCV of about 10). The first one I treated aggressively, the rest 
I did not, as I felt I had done the wrong thing by shoving pills in the first 
one, making her unhappy, only to lose her anyway.
   
  I have had Stamp since November. He was a kitten (still is,basically). He had 
good weight and great silky black fur. I did, however, catch him eating litter. 
I took him to the vet and he had a PCV of 22. Not terrible for his age (I never 
realized the normal PCV ranges change as the grow up). The vet started him on a 
low dose of Prednisilone. About 2 months ago I had him retested (new vet) and 
it was 24.
   
  Over the last couple weeks he has started to loose weight, even though he 
eats. He loves his Pet Tinic, roast beef, and Science Diet kitten dry (I know 
there are better foods, but I get it free from the shelter because he is a 
foster). I took him to the vet last week and she did a CBC. She said he was at 
the low end of normal on everything. His HCT (which she said is the same as 
PCV?) was up to 28. His WBC was slightly elevated. His ears seem warm 
sometimes, although he lays on the heating pad like it is the middle of winter 
(I'm in Atlanta, so it is not!). The only thing I have done different is take 
him off Prednisone after the second vet I saw claimed they didn't know he was 
FeLV positive, or they never would have prescribed it for his anemia (did they 
not read the records faxed from the other vet?!) He has been off that for about 
a month.
   
  I can feel his back bone some now. He is breathing faster than normal. He 
licked the floor around the litter pan this morning (anemia). He cries 
sometimes. I started him on Clavamox (they only antibiotic I have). I have just 
never had an FeLV act this sick with a PCV that high. My others never started 
showing symptoms until it was around a 17 (severly anemic).
  The shelter wanted to know if I weanted to do a blood transfusion. I know 
with nonregenerative anemia this won't give him more than a couple extra weeks, 
so, no. Any suggestions that won't be terribly invasive? I would thing the 
quickened breathing would be the anemia. I started him back on the prednisone 
last night. (1/2 of a 5mg tab that I had left over from my FIV cat) Should I 
have givern him the other half this morning also? This is way more than he was 
getting before, but he is bigger.
   
  I love this little boy so much.
   
  Beth

 
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Re: Stamp/Anemia/Litter suggestions

[Leslie Lawther]

*I had someone once tell me she swears by "chicken crumble" that you get at
the feed store!  We couldn't use it... but we tried it!  I think it would
work for someone who only has a few cats.  The Worlds Best litter is good
though ... I always use that for kittens.*
*Leslie =^..^=*


On 11/27/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Maybe try World's Best or sWheat Scoop? Those are both wheat or corn
based I think... should be digestible, at least. I'd definitely try to use
something digestible corn, wheat... something like that.

I'm currently using HORSE stall pine shavings, and it's saved me TONS of
money already. A huge bale costs $3.99 and I swear, it's like a 6 month
supply.

Phaewryn

Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html
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Leslie =^..^=

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patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.  That
only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success.
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Re: Stamp/Anemia/Litter suggestions

[Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn]

Maybe try World's Best or sWheat Scoop? Those are both wheat or corn based I
think... should be digestible, at least. I'd definitely try to use something
digestible corn, wheat... something like that.

I'm currently using HORSE stall pine shavings, and it's saved me TONS of
money already. A huge bale costs $3.99 and I swear, it's like a 6 month
supply.

Phaewryn

Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html
VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:
http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html
Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html

Re: Stamp/Anemia/Litter suggestions

[Gussies mom]

Yeah, I know. The clumping can be deadly, too. The vet said to try pine litter. 
I hate that stuff because it becomes sawdust and gets everywhere. I used to 
shred newspaper when this would happen, but he is in my bedroom with one of my 
negative cats and I can't do that for both of them. I'd be changing litter 4 
times a day. 
  Has anyone had this problem or know what litter is the safest? I tried 
Yesterdays News the last time, but they ate that, too.

  Beth
   
  Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  What kind of litter was he eating? That can be deadly if it's a clay 
litter
  
Phaewryn
   
  Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html 
VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: 
http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html
Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


 
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Re: Stamp/Anemia

[Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn]

What kind of litter was he eating? That can be deadly if it's a clay
litter

Phaewryn

Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html
VT low cost Spay&Neuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:
http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html
Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html

Re: Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp

[carlas]

I signed I will forward to other too!

Re: Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp

[Terri Brown]

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Ditto...
 
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furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth and Alec =^..^=
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Cherie 
  A Gabbert 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:39 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Petition to REISSUE SPAY 
  & NEUTER Animal Stamp
  
  done, and forwarded...anything we can do to help, we have to do 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal 
Stamp
Petition to REISSUE 
SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp Dear Committee 
Members:We the undersigned are writing to you asking for the 
reprinting and continued printing of the sold-out Spay/Neuter stamps, which 
feature pictures of Samantha the shelter cat and Kirby the shelter 
dog.These stamps are a wonderful way to raise awareness for the 
innocent animals who have no voice and suffer the tragic consequences of the 
animal companion overpopulation crisis due to human ignorance, 
irresponsibility and neglect.The amount of unnecessary pain, 
suffering and death inflicted upon our beloved dogs and cats due to 
overpopulation is incalculable, as are the human misery and monetary cost 
involved in the rescuing, sheltering, medically treating and all too 
frequently, killing of surplus animals whose births never should have 
happened. Responsible spay/neutering is the humane, sensible approach to 
resolving this inexcusable failure of society.Perhaps, one day soon, 
through the efforts of ongoing responsible human intervention, weÃââll 
effectively mandate, on a national level, the spay/neutering of all dogs and 
cats in this country (excepting those exempted for appropriate reasons). The 
continued awareness raised by the Spay/Neuter stamps will surely play a 
prominent role in helping to achieve this morally imperative 
goal.Respectfully the UNDERSIGNEDhttp://www.thePetitionSite.com
 
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/572873433
 
 
 
Terrie MohrCheck site 
for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted soon.http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aolcom/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE 
RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/

Re: Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp

[Joan Doljan]

Me too!Cherie A Gabbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

done, and forwarded...anything we can do to help, we have to do [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp
Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp Dear Committee Members:We the undersigned are writing to you asking for the reprinting and continued printing of the sold-out Spay/Neuter stamps, which feature pictures of Samantha the shelter cat and Kirby the shelter dog.These stamps are a wonderful way to raise awareness for the innocent animals who have no voice and suffer the tragic consequences of the animal companion overpopulation crisis due to human ignorance, irresponsibility and neglect.The amount of unnecessary pain, suffering and death inflicted upon our beloved dogs and cats due to overpopulation is incalculable, as are the human misery and monetary cost involved in the rescuing, sheltering, medically treating and all too frequently, killing of surplus animals whose births never
 should have happened. Responsible spay/neutering is the humane, sensible approach to resolving this inexcusable failure of society.Perhaps, one day soon, through the efforts of ongoing responsible human intervention, we’ll effectively mandate, on a national level, the spay/neutering of all dogs and cats in this country (excepting those exempted for appropriate reasons). The continued awareness raised by the Spay/Neuter stamps will surely play a prominent role in helping to achieve this morally imperative goal.Respectfully the UNDERSIGNEDhttp://www.thePetitionSite.com
 
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/572873433
 
 
 Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted soon.http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/

Re: Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp

[Cherie A Gabbert]

done, and forwarded...anything we can do to help, we have to do [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp
Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp Dear Committee Members:We the undersigned are writing to you asking for the reprinting and continued printing of the sold-out Spay/Neuter stamps, which feature pictures of Samantha the shelter cat and Kirby the shelter dog.These stamps are a wonderful way to raise awareness for the innocent animals who have no voice and suffer the tragic consequences of the animal companion overpopulation crisis due to human ignorance, irresponsibility and neglect.The amount of unnecessary pain, suffering and death inflicted upon our beloved dogs and cats due to overpopulation is incalculable, as are the human misery and monetary cost involved in the rescuing, sheltering, medically treating and all too frequently, killing of surplus animals whose births never
 should have happened. Responsible spay/neutering is the humane, sensible approach to resolving this inexcusable failure of society.Perhaps, one day soon, through the efforts of ongoing responsible human intervention, we’ll effectively mandate, on a national level, the spay/neutering of all dogs and cats in this country (excepting those exempted for appropriate reasons). The continued awareness raised by the Spay/Neuter stamps will surely play a prominent role in helping to achieve this morally imperative goal.Respectfully the UNDERSIGNEDhttp://www.thePetitionSite.com
 
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/572873433
 
 
 Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted soon.http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/

Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp

[TatorBunz]

Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp
Petition to REISSUE SPAY & NEUTER Animal Stamp Dear Committee Members:We the undersigned are writing to you asking for the reprinting and continued printing of the sold-out Spay/Neuter stamps, which feature pictures of Samantha the shelter cat and Kirby the shelter dog.These stamps are a wonderful way to raise awareness for the innocent animals who have no voice and suffer the tragic consequences of the animal companion overpopulation crisis due to human ignorance, irresponsibility and neglect.The amount of unnecessary pain, suffering and death inflicted upon our beloved dogs and cats due to overpopulation is incalculable, as are the human misery and monetary cost involved in the rescuing, sheltering, medically treating and all too frequently, killing of surplus animals whose births never should have happened. Responsible spay/neutering is the humane, sensible approach to resolving this inexcusable failure of society.Perhaps, one day soon, through the efforts of ongoing responsible human intervention, weâll effectively mandate, on a national level, the spay/neutering of all dogs and cats in this country (excepting those exempted for appropriate reasons). The continued awareness raised by the Spay/Neuter stamps will surely play a prominent role in helping to achieve this morally imperative goal.Respectfully the UNDERSIGNEDhttp://www.thePetitionSite.com
 
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/572873433
 
 
 Terrie MohrCheck site for available Siameses for adoption!More will be posted soon.http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlhttp://ca.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/
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