Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
No problem Marlene. I hope your baby stays healthy. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: January-27-17 7:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Thank you, really appreciate this information. M Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Amani Oakley mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote: I think it depends on the lab results. If the haematology values are within normal ranges (especially haematocrit, red cells, platelets and reticulocyte counts) I don’t think you need the Winstrol. What I might consider though is putting him on the Doxycycline, which I believe may slow down or interfere with the reproduction of the virus. I would be interested to see what the neutrophil/lymphocyte levels look like. You often see a reversal of the ratio (with lymphocytes rising) and/or abnormal lymphocytes developing, and this is also from the effects of the virus. The Doxycycline MIGHT help. I should also point out that Winstrol used to be given to increase a cat’s appetite, strength, weight, and muscle mass. I believe it also acts positively on the bone marrow as per my experience and the scientific study I recently quoted, showing a positive improvement for people with osteoporosis, who were put on Winstrol. Thus, it wouldn’t be the worst thing to do, to have a 3-4 week course on the Winstrol for a cat. It may help fortify the bone marrow, and the cat’s strength generally. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: January-27-17 6:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Would you consider using this for a cat (1.7 years old) that is Positive but no showing any signs of the illness (yet) ? M Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Amani Oakley mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote: Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative of the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet of apometocloprimide. If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low – like below 5-8, you might consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this might also increase the liver enzymes faster. Hope this helps! Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: January-27-17 4:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Amani, Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. Thanks, Gary On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: Hi Sherri I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it from rising. Amani [Avast logo]<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Thank you, really appreciate this information. M Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2017, at 7:40 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > I think it depends on the lab results. If the haematology values are within > normal ranges (especially haematocrit, red cells, platelets and reticulocyte > counts) I don’t think you need the Winstrol. What I might consider though is > putting him on the Doxycycline, which I believe may slow down or interfere > with the reproduction of the virus. I would be interested to see what the > neutrophil/lymphocyte levels look like. You often see a reversal of the ratio > (with lymphocytes rising) and/or abnormal lymphocytes developing, and this is > also from the effects of the virus. The Doxycycline MIGHT help. > > I should also point out that Winstrol used to be given to increase a cat’s > appetite, strength, weight, and muscle mass. I believe it also acts > positively on the bone marrow as per my experience and the scientific study I > recently quoted, showing a positive improvement for people with osteoporosis, > who were put on Winstrol. Thus, it wouldn’t be the worst thing to do, to have > a 3-4 week course on the Winstrol for a cat. It may help fortify the bone > marrow, and the cat’s strength generally. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Marlene Snowman > Sent: January-27-17 6:20 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > Would you consider using this for a cat (1.7 years old) that is Positive but > no showing any signs of the illness (yet) ? > > M > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 27, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day > > Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day > > Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day > > > > > If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow > moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative of > the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet of > apometocloprimide. > > If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low – like below 5-8, you might > consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and > kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely > increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this might > also increase the liver enzymes faster. > > > Hope this helps! > > Amani > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary > Sent: January-27-17 4:04 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > Amani, > > Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they > must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. > > Thanks, > > Gary > > > On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: > Hi Sherri > > I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is > that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back > into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to > interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, > though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. > But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the > Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it > from rising. > > Amani > > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
What is apometocloprimide? I do not recall eeing it mentioned before? Amani Oakley wrote: > Winstrol - 1 mg twice a day > > Doxycycline - 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day > > Prednisolone - ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day > > > > > If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow > moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative of > the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet of > apometocloprimide. > > If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low - like below 5-8, you might > consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and > kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely > increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this might > also increase the liver enzymes faster. > > > Hope this helps! > > Amani > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary > Sent: January-27-17 4:04 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > > Amani, > > Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they > must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. > > Thanks, > > Gary > > On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: > Hi Sherri > > I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is > that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back > into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to > interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, > though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. > But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the > Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it > from rising. > > Amani > > > > [Avast logo]<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
I think it depends on the lab results. If the haematology values are within normal ranges (especially haematocrit, red cells, platelets and reticulocyte counts) I don’t think you need the Winstrol. What I might consider though is putting him on the Doxycycline, which I believe may slow down or interfere with the reproduction of the virus. I would be interested to see what the neutrophil/lymphocyte levels look like. You often see a reversal of the ratio (with lymphocytes rising) and/or abnormal lymphocytes developing, and this is also from the effects of the virus. The Doxycycline MIGHT help. I should also point out that Winstrol used to be given to increase a cat’s appetite, strength, weight, and muscle mass. I believe it also acts positively on the bone marrow as per my experience and the scientific study I recently quoted, showing a positive improvement for people with osteoporosis, who were put on Winstrol. Thus, it wouldn’t be the worst thing to do, to have a 3-4 week course on the Winstrol for a cat. It may help fortify the bone marrow, and the cat’s strength generally. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman Sent: January-27-17 6:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Would you consider using this for a cat (1.7 years old) that is Positive but no showing any signs of the illness (yet) ? M Sent from my iPhone On Jan 27, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Amani Oakley mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote: Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative of the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet of apometocloprimide. If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low – like below 5-8, you might consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this might also increase the liver enzymes faster. Hope this helps! Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: January-27-17 4:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Amani, Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. Thanks, Gary On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: Hi Sherri I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it from rising. Amani [Avast logo]<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Would you consider using this for a cat (1.7 years old) that is Positive but no showing any signs of the illness (yet) ? M Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > Winstrol – 1 mg twice a day > > Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day > > Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day > > > > > If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow > moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative of > the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet of > apometocloprimide. > > If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low – like below 5-8, you might > consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and > kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely > increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this might > also increase the liver enzymes faster. > > > Hope this helps! > > Amani > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary > Sent: January-27-17 4:04 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > Amani, > > Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they > must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. > > Thanks, > > Gary > > > On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: > Hi Sherri > > I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is > that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back > into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to > interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, > though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. > But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the > Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it > from rising. > > Amani > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Winstrol - 1 mg twice a day Doxycycline - 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day Prednisolone - ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative of the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet of apometocloprimide. If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low - like below 5-8, you might consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this might also increase the liver enzymes faster. Hope this helps! Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: January-27-17 4:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Amani, Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. Thanks, Gary On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: Hi Sherri I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it from rising. Amani [Avast logo]<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/antivirus> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Amani, Could you please give the dosages used for Zander's Protocol? I know they must have been previously given, but I cannot seem to find them. Thanks, Gary On 9/16/2016 8:52 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: Hi Sherri I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it from rising. Amani --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
I have 1 felv, Annie. She is now 8 years plus, healthy, sassy and 8 lbs.Don't give up on your Hodor mand take the advice of members hwo have been through this. "Katherine K." wrote: > Hodor is STUNNING. Looks like a combination of my 2 kitties. Glad you found > our group, we're here to support you as you support Hodor. Thanks for > helping him. > When my cat first got sick, I had my vet order LTCI injections. They seemed > to help, but they were expensive. Hugs to both of you! > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Margo > wrote: > > > Hi Elizabeth, > > > > Sorry you have to be here, but glad you found us. Thank you > > for not allowing the Vet to euthanize. I'm appalled that a ACVIM Vet would > > recommend that. What happened with the floss and GI involvement? Has his > > RBC/HCT held? How does he feel and act? > > > >I have two FeLV+ cats on Interferon, and they have been on > > it for 3+ years. I can't swear it helps, but I'm sure not going to stop it > > :) You might try DMG, some people have had luck withthat, for mine, it > > hasn;t hurt to stop it, but I would start again if either started going > > south. > > > > As to your other cat, I see no point in separating them, > > as my Vet said, "That ship has sailed". I would probably vaccinate your > > negative cat, but I didn't. I do vaccinate anyone new who may have contact. > > > > Don't give up :) > > > > Margo, Mako, Gribble and assorted negatives... > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Liz McCarty > > Sent: Sep 15, 2016 1:39 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat > > with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed > > lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the > > vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need > > a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The > > vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case > > we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV > > positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him > > which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was > > going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went > > forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had > > him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. > > Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that > > and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other > > suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull > > through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's > > in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, > > and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be > > separated. She's not FeLV positive. > > > > Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we > > incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is > > interested. > > http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk > > > > Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. > > > > Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Hi Sherri I hope you got some good news today. However, as you know, my experience is that the Winstrol needs to be used long term before the red cells are back into the normal range. I continue to recommend use of the Doxycyline to interfere with viral RNA synthesis. The Winstrol does not attack the virus, though I believe it makes the cat stronger overall and able to fight back. But at the outset of the treatment regime, I believe you must have the Doxycycline on board to try and reduce the viral load, or at least, keep it from rising. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri Godschalk Sent: September-15-16 4:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Hi Elizabeth, I had commented a couple of times on your Facebook posts on the Felv+ Owners page. How has your cat been feeling since the transfusion? Has he been able to sustain any energy, appetite and such after his transfusion? I am glad you found this board. I was given very good info here after Bogey was diagnosed. Her IFA was positive and so her bone marrow is affected. Her RBC was 13 when I took her in. She had stopped playing, eating and was sleeping all the time. After being on the Prednisone her appetite rebounded. They also put her on an antibiotic that we have since stopped at the vets urging and added Stanzolol 2mg once a day. She goes back in tomorrow to see if her counts are better and I think they will be. Her gums are more pink, playing some and eating good. I am certain though that she is still quite anemic. We just need to show improvement with this treatment. I find myself saying all day today "Please be higher". My point being they can rebound from the anemia. I don't know for how long but I am going to give my cat the best chance at life that I can as I am sure you will and everyone else on this board does. Some cats can live a long time with FELV and some just cannot. I wish us all the best of luck. Sherri From: Felvtalk mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>> on behalf of Liz McCarty mailto:emccart...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:39 PM To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>> Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Hi everyone, Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive. Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
– more than 10 times the recommended daily dose for cats. That’s the only study which has found this supposed link between Winstrol and liver damage. And even in that study, with those remarkably ridiculous doses, the cats in that study only had elevated liver enzymes (no tumours, etc.) and the liver enzymes dropped back to normal levels when the Winstrol was discontinued. This is consistent with my experience as well. I refused to stop the Winstrol for my cat, when the enzymes went up, because he was going to die with the low red cell count he had. I kept him on Winstrol for around 10 months, before the red cells were in a normal range. During that ten month period, I would wean him down a few times, but ALWAYS the red cells would immediately drop again, so it was more than clear that it was the Winstrol making the numbers rise. So, in the end, he had Winstrol pretty much for the duration of 10 months and his liver enzymes went right back to normal again, once I discontinued the Winstrol – NO lasting damage. This was also my experience with a second cat with a nasal sarcoma, and where I used the Winstrol to keep her appetite up and reduce the swelling (she was 16). The enzymes went quite high at the outset of my use of Winstrol, but went back to normal when I weaned her off for a bit and then again when I ultimately took her off the Winstrol. Get the Winstrol if you can, and use it in combination with the prednisone (which I am told also helps to protect the liver when the Winstrol is used) and Doxycycline. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Liz McCarty Sent: September-15-16 1:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Hi everyone, Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive. Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Hi Elizabeth, I had commented a couple of times on your Facebook posts on the Felv+ Owners page. How has your cat been feeling since the transfusion? Has he been able to sustain any energy, appetite and such after his transfusion? I am glad you found this board. I was given very good info here after Bogey was diagnosed. Her IFA was positive and so her bone marrow is affected. Her RBC was 13 when I took her in. She had stopped playing, eating and was sleeping all the time. After being on the Prednisone her appetite rebounded. They also put her on an antibiotic that we have since stopped at the vets urging and added Stanzolol 2mg once a day. She goes back in tomorrow to see if her counts are better and I think they will be. Her gums are more pink, playing some and eating good. I am certain though that she is still quite anemic. We just need to show improvement with this treatment. I find myself saying all day today ³Please be higher². My point being they can rebound from the anemia. I don¹t know for how long but I am going to give my cat the best chance at life that I can as I am sure you will and everyone else on this board does. Some cats can live a long time with FELV and some just cannot. I wish us all the best of luck. Sherri From: Felvtalk on behalf of Liz McCarty Reply-To: Date: Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:39 PM To: Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Hi everyone, Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive. Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Good for you for not listening to the euthanasia nonsense. Doxycycline is used in case the anemia is being caused by Hemobartonellosis (Hemobart for short). But you said there was a piece of floss in his stool. Floss can do all kinds of nasty stuff to a kitty's intestines. He could have lost blood because of that. Testing positive for FeLV is unfortunate, because now vets can focus on this instead of looking at the complete picture. Some kitties can live for several years after testing positive, so do not give up hope. How long have the 2 cats been best friends? If the other cat has tested negative, it may very well be that she has a strong enough immune system. Separating them now may only cause undue stress, which you don't want to do. Concentrate on increasing the immune system, keeping them well fed & happy. We never really know how long we have with them - whether they test positive or not... I'm sure others will chime in here too. Kat (Mew Jersey) Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 1:39 PM From: "Liz McCarty" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Hi everyone, Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive. Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Hodor is STUNNING. Looks like a combination of my 2 kitties. Glad you found our group, we're here to support you as you support Hodor. Thanks for helping him. When my cat first got sick, I had my vet order LTCI injections. They seemed to help, but they were expensive. Hugs to both of you! On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Margo wrote: > Hi Elizabeth, > > Sorry you have to be here, but glad you found us. Thank you > for not allowing the Vet to euthanize. I'm appalled that a ACVIM Vet would > recommend that. What happened with the floss and GI involvement? Has his > RBC/HCT held? How does he feel and act? > >I have two FeLV+ cats on Interferon, and they have been on > it for 3+ years. I can't swear it helps, but I'm sure not going to stop it > :) You might try DMG, some people have had luck withthat, for mine, it > hasn;t hurt to stop it, but I would start again if either started going > south. > > As to your other cat, I see no point in separating them, > as my Vet said, "That ship has sailed". I would probably vaccinate your > negative cat, but I didn't. I do vaccinate anyone new who may have contact. > > Don't give up :) > > Margo, Mako, Gribble and assorted negatives... > > > > > -Original Message----- > From: Liz McCarty > Sent: Sep 15, 2016 1:39 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV > > Hi everyone, > > Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat > with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed > lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the > vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need > a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The > vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case > we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV > positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him > which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was > going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went > forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had > him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. > Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that > and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other > suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull > through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's > in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, > and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be > separated. She's not FeLV positive. > > Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we > incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is > interested. > http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk > > Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. > > Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Hi Elizabeth, Sorry you have to be here, but glad you found us. Thank you for not allowing the Vet to euthanize. I'm appalled that a ACVIM Vet would recommend that. What happened with the floss and GI involvement? Has his RBC/HCT held? How does he feel and act? I have two FeLV+ cats on Interferon, and they have been on it for 3+ years. I can't swear it helps, but I'm sure not going to stop it :) You might try DMG, some people have had luck withthat, for mine, it hasn;t hurt to stop it, but I would start again if either started going south. As to your other cat, I see no point in separating them, as my Vet said, "That ship has sailed". I would probably vaccinate your negative cat, but I didn't. I do vaccinate anyone new who may have contact.Don't give up :)Margo, Mako, Gribble and assorted negatives... -Original Message- From: Liz McCarty Sent: Sep 15, 2016 1:39 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV Hi everyone, Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive. Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Hi everyone, Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion. It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone have experience with that and know if it was effective? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer, they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive. Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested. http://www.gofundme.com/2mzdpgk Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance. Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] My baby boy Spatz
Hello, I'm hoping someone here can give us some information or insight. Our little tuxedo boy is 8 years old and has been healthy until recently.? He started hiding out and just not acting his usual sweet self, so we took him to the doc.? He was given antibiotics for a week and still not well - better, but not well.? His blood tests showed severe anemia..so blood transfusion, more antibiotics and prednisone.? We were sent to a specialist, who tested and got a weak positve for FELV.? Retest showed positive, so now we're struggling with whether to try interferon (our vet has not had good results) or LTCI (Imulan).? Does anyone have feedback regarding LTCI?? We're willing to try it, but don't want to make our boy go through more injections if the outcome is just survival, we want him to have a good life, you know? The weird thing is, he has had the FELV vaccines, and tested negative in 2004.? Our other boy is 12 years old and negative, but we hate keeping them apart.? I'm so glad I found this forum, I'm just torn up about what to do next and felt there was nowhere to turn. Thank you all! Elisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: my baby
Yeah, they sure know when they've got a good thing going. I had one that wanted his head petted lightly while eating. He did finally recover after he had sucked me dry time-wise. Oh, the things we do for love !!! Dede --- Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have to tell you guys about BooBoo's new regime. > It involves taking him out in the patio twice a day > for fresh air and nature. He's really enjoying it. > He watches and listens to the birds for about 10 to > 15 minutes at a time. I think it does him a world > of good. Today he walked into the living room after > his outdoor adventure, which is unusual, and was > waving his tail in Lennie's face who was sleeping on > the sofa. This woke Len up who just stared at him. > Then Bob was feeding Len some silly cat treats and > BooBoo who usually cowers from him, got up marched > right over to Len and hissed at him. Totally out of > character. Lennie who in his day would lay ruin to > any animal who entered his yard just left and went > back to bed. On the way to the stairs Boo tore the > hell out of the bottom stair carpet and boinged > upstairs. I had brought his food up but he > literally threw himself down in front of it, put his > head between his paws and sulked until Bob came up > and encouraged him to eat. It's getting ridiculous. > He wants both of us to feed him and stay with him > til he's done. So far the Lasix seems to be keeping > the fluid under control and he's breathing normally. > > > Hope you all have a wonderful weekend. > Lynne > "When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God" Mosiah 2:17 Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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This is wonderful news about BooBoo Lynne! Thanks for letting know! You guys have a great weekend too! Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: my baby I have to tell you guys about BooBoo's new regime. It involves taking him out in the patio twice a day for fresh air and nature. He's really enjoying it. He watches and listens to the birds for about 10 to 15 minutes at a time. I think it does him a world of good. Today he walked into the living room after his outdoor adventure, which is unusual, and was waving his tail in Lennie's face who was sleeping on the sofa. This woke Len up who just stared at him. Then Bob was feeding Len some silly cat treats and BooBoo who usually cowers from him, got up marched right over to Len and hissed at him. Totally out of character. Lennie who in his day would lay ruin to any animal who entered his yard just left and went back to bed. On the way to the stairs Boo tore the hell out of the bottom stair carpet and boinged upstairs. I had brought his food up but he literally threw himself down in front of it, put his head between his paws and sulked until Bob came up and encouraged him to eat. It's getting ridiculous. He wants both of us to feed him and stay with him til he's done. So far the Lasix seems to be keeping the fluid under control and he's breathing normally. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend. Lynne _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: my baby
This is wonderful. On Feb 22, 2008, at 1:02 PM, laurieskatz wrote: Thank-you for this encouraging and HAPPY update! God bless us all! Laurie - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: my baby I have to tell you guys about BooBoo's new regime. It involves taking him out in the patio twice a day for fresh air and nature. He's really enjoying it. He watches and listens to the birds for about 10 to 15 minutes at a time. I think it does him a world of good. Today he walked into the living room after his outdoor adventure, which is unusual, and was waving his tail in Lennie's face who was sleeping on the sofa. This woke Len up who just stared at him. Then Bob was feeding Len some silly cat treats and BooBoo who usually cowers from him, got up marched right over to Len and hissed at him. Totally out of character. Lennie who in his day would lay ruin to any animal who entered his yard just left and went back to bed. On the way to the stairs Boo tore the hell out of the bottom stair carpet and boinged upstairs. I had brought his food up but he literally threw himself down in front of it, put his head between his paws and sulked until Bob came up and encouraged him to eat. It's getting ridiculous. He wants both of us to feed him and stay with him til he's done. So far the Lasix seems to be keeping the fluid under control and he's breathing normally. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend. Lynne
Re: my baby
Thank-you for this encouraging and HAPPY update! God bless us all! Laurie - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: my baby I have to tell you guys about BooBoo's new regime. It involves taking him out in the patio twice a day for fresh air and nature. He's really enjoying it. He watches and listens to the birds for about 10 to 15 minutes at a time. I think it does him a world of good. Today he walked into the living room after his outdoor adventure, which is unusual, and was waving his tail in Lennie's face who was sleeping on the sofa. This woke Len up who just stared at him. Then Bob was feeding Len some silly cat treats and BooBoo who usually cowers from him, got up marched right over to Len and hissed at him. Totally out of character. Lennie who in his day would lay ruin to any animal who entered his yard just left and went back to bed. On the way to the stairs Boo tore the hell out of the bottom stair carpet and boinged upstairs. I had brought his food up but he literally threw himself down in front of it, put his head between his paws and sulked until Bob came up and encouraged him to eat. It's getting ridiculous. He wants both of us to feed him and stay with him til he's done. So far the Lasix seems to be keeping the fluid under control and he's breathing normally. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend. Lynne
my baby
I have to tell you guys about BooBoo's new regime. It involves taking him out in the patio twice a day for fresh air and nature. He's really enjoying it. He watches and listens to the birds for about 10 to 15 minutes at a time. I think it does him a world of good. Today he walked into the living room after his outdoor adventure, which is unusual, and was waving his tail in Lennie's face who was sleeping on the sofa. This woke Len up who just stared at him. Then Bob was feeding Len some silly cat treats and BooBoo who usually cowers from him, got up marched right over to Len and hissed at him. Totally out of character. Lennie who in his day would lay ruin to any animal who entered his yard just left and went back to bed. On the way to the stairs Boo tore the hell out of the bottom stair carpet and boinged upstairs. I had brought his food up but he literally threw himself down in front of it, put his head between his paws and sulked until Bob came up and encouraged him to eat. It's getting ridiculous. He wants both of us to feed him and stay with him til he's done. So far the Lasix seems to be keeping the fluid under control and he's breathing normally. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend. Lynne
Re: MeMe and My baby Sammy
This didn't go thru the way it should have--sounds like cats on the keyboard. What I did after I cut the little ant-size "garage doors" in the sides of the shoebox lid was place two ant baits under the lid and top it off with several folded newspapers to keep the top stable and hide it from interested little felines. Works like a charm and ants were gone in two or three days. Oh--and, I'm back. I had a hairy three weeks dealing with billi bi's FLUTD, including reconstructive and cosmetic surgery (the new norm!) for his little peepee, poor guy, and now, Sammy went out of the remission he was in since after the week he began his chemotherapy. So he is on rescue protocol started Monday and has snapped out of it and is back to normal but this is apparently the shitty endgame. The doc has given him a max of two months. I hate this crap so much! I've called an animal healer. The good news is he will celebrate his very first birthday (for three whole days: June 29th, 30th and July 1st, when they were found by a lady's retriever who carefully retrieved them from under her back porch, with his brothers Charlie and Teddy. I just hate this crying all the time, though. "Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation." On Jun 10, 2007, at 6:20 AM, Marylyn wrote: Thanks for the tip. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 2:43 AM Subject: Re: MeMe Oh, great! Isn't she cute? My little girl! Oh--and don't worry. Those things are all in the basement in backs of cupboards with old sliding doors that even I have trouble with. I just figured out how to hide ant traps when you can't hide 'em in the backs of base cabinets. I took a shoebox lid and cut very small (about 1/2" wide) ant-size years from getting curious and they completely ignore it--but the ants don't--and now those stupid ants are GONE! And, brother, it has been ant season big time this year! YAY! "Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation." On Jun 9, 2007, at 7:33 AM, Marylyn wrote: Sounds like she is trying to teach you to hunt. Be careful with those things you sit around. You don't want a cat playing with them. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 1:12 AM Subject: Re: MeMe Oh, dear MeMe with the wonderful name! You WILL get rid of the giardia. Just be careful not to drink out of any glasses or mugs she has put her paw into. That's how I got giardia! I remember thinking, oh how cute! And later drinking out of that glass and a week or two later, bingo! I later told my vet and the head vet tech and, boy, did they laugh! If you DO get it it'll go away eventually if you're healthy. ~~Oh, ack! Lilibet just jumped up on my desk to show me--a roach from the basement! She is so pleased! I thought I heard her delicate little voice! She's the one who taught the Three Orange Boys how to kill their prey by bringing them various bugs she would catch. So she's taken it to them and they're very happy, too. I don't mind roaches--except that they're IN MY (mother's) BASEMENT! Ick! I thought I could get 'em with those roach things you hide around in the backs of cupboards, but NO! Crap! She actually just brought it to me again and it wasn't looking so good by then--so proud!--and then took it back to the babies a second time. Very exciting early AM here!~~ Lilibet also has a runny eye, which, of course, she arrived with. Sometimes it runs and sometimes she sneezes. I think MeMe's wellness program is working! If you google purring or cats purring you'l eventually find info on the healing power of purring! Pretty neat stuff! Oh--and you know what else? She knows she's sick but she also knows she loves you and you love her and that's stronger than any sickness. Love from the cats over here! And me, too. "Consciousness is Causal and Physicality is its Manifestation." On Jun 7, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Jane Lyons wrote: Thanks for asking about he
Re: Acemanan availability (was need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!)
It's very different from immunoregulin. It's available for sale again now. elizabeth *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 7:39 AM Subject: Re: Acemanan availability (was need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!) Isn't acemannan the same as immunoregulin? You can't get it now? t Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You know, I was just thinking that perhaps there might be a way to get special dispensations the way we do for feline interferon. Or, perhaps it's sold in a different country that we could order from. Has anyone looked in to it's availability somewhere besides the US? Has anyone contacted the company that distributes it or produces it to find out? Don't get me started on how "disturbing" it is to be "protected" by our government agencies. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is disturbing to me that the Acemanan is still being withheld from the market. I'm trying to remember if it was the FDA or dept. of agriculture that was doing that. This has been going on way too long and I wish there was someone I could contact about it. I know that Mama Kitty could need that again at some point in the future and it frustrates me to think it might not be available. Please give Dharma a hug from me - hope she is doing better. elizabeth Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
Re: Acemanan availability (was need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!)
two different drugs and there was never a problem getting I-R. The thing that is hard to get is feline interferon (virbagen omega), which has to come with special dispensation from the FDA from overseas (though Hideyo has gotten around it). Acemannan was off the market a short while to be audited, but is apparently available again. Michelle In a message dated 11/7/2006 8:40:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't acemannan the same as immunoregulin? You can't get it now? t
Re: Acemanan availability (was need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!)
Isn't acemannan the same as immunoregulin? You can't get it now? tNina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You know, I was just thinking that perhaps there might be a way to get special dispensations the way we do for feline interferon. Or, perhaps it's sold in a different country that we could order from. Has anyone looked in to it's availability somewhere besides the US? Has anyone contacted the company that distributes it or produces it to find out? Don't get me started on how "disturbing" it is to be "protected" by our government agencies.Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is disturbing to me that the Acemanan is still being withheld from the market. I'm trying to remember if it was the FDA or dept. of agriculture that was doing that. This has been going on way too long and I wish there was someone I could contact about it. I know that Mama Kitty could need that again at some point in the future and it frustrates me to think it might not be available. Please give Dharma a hug from me - hope she is doing better. elizabeth
RE: My baby, Olive has become free now --my 4th loss to FIP..
Peggy, thank you so much for your kindness -- now I am crying again -- I will try to focus on the fact that they are at a better place now and free from all the pains..it's just so hard.. I miss them so much.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peggy AnkneySent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 5:29 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: My baby, Olive has become free now --my 4th loss to FIP.. Dear Hideyo, I am so, so sorry for all the pain you are going thorough with your recent losses. You know rationally that you have done everything you could to give your kitties a few months or perhaps years of a happy and secure and loved life, so please don’t let yourself feel guilty for any decision you’ve made. Your intentions were and are (as are all of ours) to do whatever we can for the animals we so dearly love. You have given all four of them food, shelter, warmth, and care. Be gentle with yourself, and don’t second-guess your decision to help little Olive to the bridge. Hold on to the images you have of her sweetly sleeping the way cats do - with her little paws tucked in underneath her and the contented look on her face. She was lucky to have had you for the short time she was here. -Peggy
RE: My baby, Olive has become free now --my 4th loss to FIP..
Dear Hideyo, I am so, so sorry for all the pain you are going thorough with your recent losses. You know rationally that you have done everything you could to give your kitties a few months or perhaps years of a happy and secure and loved life, so please don’t let yourself feel guilty for any decision you’ve made. Your intentions were and are (as are all of ours) to do whatever we can for the animals we so dearly love. You have given all four of them food, shelter, warmth, and care. Be gentle with yourself, and don’t second-guess your decision to help little Olive to the bridge. Hold on to the images you have of her sweetly sleeping the way cats do - with her little paws tucked in underneath her and the contented look on her face. She was lucky to have had you for the short time she was here. -Peggy
RE: My baby, Olive has become free now --my 4th loss to FIP..
I am so stupid and out of it,,, I can't even spell my cat's name --- I meant "Olive" -- I am sorry Olive I am just so scattered.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 12:09 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; CRF Family; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Oliver has become free now --my 4th loss to FIP.. I had to let Olive free from her body this morning -- she seemed to be in so much pain from the emergency clinic trip, since last night, she has had seizures almost every 15 minu or so last nigth even after valium and I couldn't let her continue that way.. I usually have a very difficult time to help assist them cross any of my kitties, because I can't let go of them. and I never know what they want for sure.. but this time,, it was very difficult to see Olive go through the seizures so many times as she seemed to be in so mcuh pain..it seems very selfish of me to let her be how she was.. I had someone come over and assisted her cross a little while ago-- of course, I have so much gult now and don't know what to do with the feeling.. though logically, I could convince myself that I did a right thing.. i just don't feel right and I have a regret already -- I am feeling numb right now at the same time, I am feeling awful about what i did.. I was talking to dr. Addie from University of glagslow who has done research for FIP for the past two decades, and she was explaining to me how FIP is the disease that we human create by domesticating our kitties and keeping them indoor -- please don't get me wrong.. she was not suggesting that keeping cats indoor was a bad thing.. but there is a price to pay when you have multiple of animals in the house.. as feces from litter box is the most common way to get the corona virus and as they shed from feces -- and out in wild, FIP is much less common due to the fact that they don't use litter boxes obviously... and that's what I meant when I produced the disease and not separating them in a small group.. There are a few people on FIP support list who have lost several of their kitties to FIP --- it can be sproadic and usually is.. but sometimes, it's epidemic.. and when it happens it's very scary..as you already know.. I am so afraid thinking what's now, what's next -- as I am trying not to create a problem before it even happens.. but you just have to understand.. my Oliver was just fine (or at least I thought which was my very bad) until last night.. it seemed progressed so quickly and never seen anything like it... Everyone, prlease pray that my olive is at peace and feel free and my Dharma, Naomi and Peter are greeting at her at the rainbow bridge..
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease - to michelle
She has FIP – and it’s auto immune disease --- so I just don’t know if I should wait to use on epogen as I will be afraid of the antibody reactions from it.. but I don’t want to wait too long – because her PCV is already down to 15 – what d=should I do? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease - to michelle It depends on what is causing the anemia. If it is either an auto-immune reaction or lymphoma in the bone marrow, steroids should help (though a stronger steroid like dexamethasone would help more, probably). If it is leukemia the cancer it might help also. It probably will not help for any other cause of anemia. Michelle In a message dated 10/25/2006 3:30:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle, I can’t remember I f it was you or someone else – will steroid help anemia anyway?
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease - to michelle
It depends on what is causing the anemia. If it is either an auto-immune reaction or lymphoma in the bone marrow, steroids should help (though a stronger steroid like dexamethasone would help more, probably). If it is leukemia the cancer it might help also. It probably will not help for any other cause of anemia. Michelle In a message dated 10/25/2006 3:30:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle, I can’t remember I f it was you or someone else – will steroid help anemia anyway?
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
I am picturing Dharma bathed in healing energy. You and she will be in my prayers. Gina wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hideyo,Prayers going out that little Dharma begins eatingbetter and that she regains her color.:)Wendy__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Visit my Tigger Tales site! See my cats' gallery at Zazzle Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: Acemanan availability (was need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!)
This might be a guy to talk to at Carrington Laboratories: Carlton E. Turner, Chief Executive Officer(972) 518-1300 According to this article - Carrington is the only manufacturer in the world...at least the raw materials... News from Carrington Laboratories Makes me wonder if there is a way to process one of these powdered forms to come up with the injectable formula. It isn't as though we would be selling it under another trade name. I'm going to be slammed at work tomorrow but if I do get a chance - I will call this man. elizabeth In a message dated 10/25/2006 9:52:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's definitely worth checking into. I've been googling here - the scientific name of this product is acetylated mannans. The injectable form of it is manufactured and marketed by Carrington Laboratories as Acemannan Immunostimulant ™ . Veterinary Products Laboratories sells the product for veterinary application but I'm wondering if it is available outside this milieux. I personally would like to talk directly to the person who made the decision to withhold it from the market and hear their justification and why it is taking such an extraordinary amount of time. Their claim was that they were auditing it -- but I would also like to know their definition of audit. I find it odd that wound dressings containing acemannan in gel form are still available. elizabeth In a message dated 10/25/2006 9:34:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, I was just thinking that perhaps there might be a way to get special dispensations the way we do for feline interferon. Or, perhaps it's sold in a different country that we could order from. Has anyone looked in to it's availability somewhere besides the US? Has anyone contacted the company that distributes it or produces it to find out? Don't get me started on how "disturbing" it is to be "protected" by our government agencies.Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is disturbing to me that the Acemanan is still being withheld from the market. I'm trying to remember if it was the FDA or dept. of agriculture that was doing that. This has been going on way too long and I wish there was someone I could contact about it. I know that Mama Kitty could need that again at some point in the future and it frustrates me to think it might not be available. Please give Dharma a hug from me - hope she is doing better. elizabeth
Re: Acemanan availability (was need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!)
It's definitely worth checking into. I've been googling here - the scientific name of this product is acetylated mannans. The injectable form of it is manufactured and marketed by Carrington Laboratories as Acemannan Immunostimulant ™ . Veterinary Products Laboratories sells the product for veterinary application but I'm wondering if it is available outside this milieux. I personally would like to talk directly to the person who made the decision to withhold it from the market and hear their justification and why it is taking such an extraordinary amount of time. Their claim was that they were auditing it -- but I would also like to know their definition of audit. I find it odd that wound dressings containing acemannan in gel form are still available. elizabeth In a message dated 10/25/2006 9:34:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, I was just thinking that perhaps there might be a way to get special dispensations the way we do for feline interferon. Or, perhaps it's sold in a different country that we could order from. Has anyone looked in to it's availability somewhere besides the US? Has anyone contacted the company that distributes it or produces it to find out? Don't get me started on how "disturbing" it is to be "protected" by our government agencies.Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is disturbing to me that the Acemanan is still being withheld from the market. I'm trying to remember if it was the FDA or dept. of agriculture that was doing that. This has been going on way too long and I wish there was someone I could contact about it. I know that Mama Kitty could need that again at some point in the future and it frustrates me to think it might not be available. Please give Dharma a hug from me - hope she is doing better. elizabeth
Re: Acemanan availability (was need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!)
Great idea! - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:35 PM Subject: Acemanan availability (was need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!) You know, I was just thinking that perhaps there might be a way to get special dispensations the way we do for feline interferon. Or, perhaps it's sold in a different country that we could order from. Has anyone looked in to it's availability somewhere besides the US? Has anyone contacted the company that distributes it or produces it to find out? Don't get me started on how "disturbing" it is to be "protected" by our government agencies.Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is disturbing to me that the Acemanan is still being withheld from the market. I'm trying to remember if it was the FDA or dept. of agriculture that was doing that. This has been going on way too long and I wish there was someone I could contact about it. I know that Mama Kitty could need that again at some point in the future and it frustrates me to think it might not be available. Please give Dharma a hug from me - hope she is doing better. elizabeth
Acemanan availability (was need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!)
You know, I was just thinking that perhaps there might be a way to get special dispensations the way we do for feline interferon. Or, perhaps it's sold in a different country that we could order from. Has anyone looked in to it's availability somewhere besides the US? Has anyone contacted the company that distributes it or produces it to find out? Don't get me started on how "disturbing" it is to be "protected" by our government agencies. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is disturbing to me that the Acemanan is still being withheld from the market. I'm trying to remember if it was the FDA or dept. of agriculture that was doing that. This has been going on way too long and I wish there was someone I could contact about it. I know that Mama Kitty could need that again at some point in the future and it frustrates me to think it might not be available. Please give Dharma a hug from me - hope she is doing better. elizabeth
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
It is disturbing to me that the Acemanan is still being withheld from the market. I'm trying to remember if it was the FDA or dept. of agriculture that was doing that. This has been going on way too long and I wish there was someone I could contact about it. I know that Mama Kitty could need that again at some point in the future and it frustrates me to think it might not be available. Please give Dharma a hug from me - hope she is doing better. elizabeth In a message dated 10/25/2006 1:27:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, anemia is one of the common symptoms of FIP as well, usually mild anemia, but as the condition gets worse their PCV could drop.. both of my Naomi and Peter were mildly anemic when they were first diagnosed, but Naomi got more anemic – I hate “anemia” – it’s too frustrating – there aren’t many I can do – though I know she is not at a point where she needs transfusion yet.. but if needed, I would try it, and would also try epogen.. I called about Acemanna again as you suggested when I was having a problem with Tsubomi – unfortunately it’s still discontinued temporarily.. Presisolone is one of the treatments suggested for FIP – haven’t used yet – as FIP is auto immune disease, their own immune system attack their body.. I have been giving her moducare as immune balancer. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:19 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hideyo, sending prayers. If she is anemic, wouldn't that be a sign that she has something other than FIP, like leukemia the cancer or something else hard to diagnose (but potentially treatable, or at least manageable for a while with steroids)? Michelle If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. ~St. Francis
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
You and Dharma will both be in my prayers. Lance
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
May all the angels watch after you both. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: "Hideyo Yamamoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:20 PM Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! So glad to hear that they are so happy --can't wait to see the pics! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi Hideyo, Athena and Artemis are doing great. They are about 1 1/2 years old now and you'd swear Athena can see just as well as her sister - she gets into just as much mischief as Artemis does. They are so cute. I haven't mixed them with the rest of the household, so they get to hang out in my study and sun themselves in the south facing window while I'm at work. My digital camera gave up the ghost last year and I'm leaving hints with my boyfriend for a new one this Christmas (so I can update their pics!) Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:30:56 -0600 From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Thank you, Kat! How Are the two babies (blind baby) by the way?
Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Hideyo,sending you and Dharma many prayers. SherryHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come whats call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I dont want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her this really has worked for her Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease - to michelle
Michelle, I can’t remember I f it was you or someone else – will steroid help anemia anyway? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hideyo, sending prayers. If she is anemic, wouldn't that be a sign that she has something other than FIP, like leukemia the cancer or something else hard to diagnose (but potentially treatable, or at least manageable for a while with steroids)? Michelle
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Hideyo, I am praying for your sweet Dharma. I am sending tons of positive energy to you and Dharma. Cindy Reasoner --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks, Nina -- it means so much to me and Dharma.. > I cannot stop crying > when I think of the fear.. but I don't let Dharma > see it, because she > needs to be positive and she needs me to be positive > - she is such a > strong baby and I am so proud of her.. now I am > trying low dose oral > protocol to see if it makes her feel better.. > > > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Nina > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:44 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma > again pleease!! > > > > Bless it Hideyo, I'm sorry to hear Dharma is not > eating as well. She > hasn't left my prayers and I'll do the visualization > of white light > surrounding you both. Com'on Dharma, we're all > pulling for you! > Nina > > Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > > Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing > positive energy to > my Dharma who is trying to over come what's call > fatal disease FIP .. > She has been doing really well with Feline > interferon treatment and > noticed that she is eating less the last day or two > and seems a bit pale > - I am debating over to take her to the vet or not > to draw a blood.. but > I don't want to stress her out unless I have a > solution to the problem > that she has.. > > Please please send her healing vibes and please > imagine Dharma is > surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam > of lights so that > she can bounce back all the negative energy from her > - this really has > worked for her - Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico > girl with three feet > - pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of > prayers!!! I just cannot > lose her! > > > > Hideyo > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
So glad to hear that they are so happy --can't wait to see the pics! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi Hideyo, Athena and Artemis are doing great. They are about 1 1/2 years old now and you'd swear Athena can see just as well as her sister - she gets into just as much mischief as Artemis does. They are so cute. I haven't mixed them with the rest of the household, so they get to hang out in my study and sun themselves in the south facing window while I'm at work. My digital camera gave up the ghost last year and I'm leaving hints with my boyfriend for a new one this Christmas (so I can update their pics!) Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:30:56 -0600 > From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! > > Thank you, Kat! > > > How Are the two babies (blind baby) by the way? >
RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Hi Hideyo, Athena and Artemis are doing great. They are about 1 1/2 years old now and you'd swear Athena can see just as well as her sister - she gets into just as much mischief as Artemis does. They are so cute. I haven't mixed them with the rest of the household, so they get to hang out in my study and sun themselves in the south facing window while I'm at work. My digital camera gave up the ghost last year and I'm leaving hints with my boyfriend for a new one this Christmas (so I can update their pics!) Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:30:56 -0600 > From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! > > Thank you, Kat! > > > How Are the two babies (blind baby) by the way? >
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Thank you, Kat! How Are the two babies (blind baby) by the way? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:31 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hideyo, I am sending you & Dharma healing positive white light. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:32:07 -0600 > From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! > > Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to > my Dharma who is trying to over come what's call fatal disease FIP .. > She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and > noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale > - I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but > I don't want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem > that she has.. > > Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is > surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that > she can bounce back all the negative energy from her - this really has > worked for her - Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet > - pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot > lose her! > > > > Hideyo > >
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Hideyo, I am sending you & Dharma healing positive white light. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:32:07 -0600 > From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! > > Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to > my Dharma who is trying to over come what's call fatal disease FIP .. > She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and > noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale > - I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but > I don't want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem > that she has.. > > Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is > surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that > she can bounce back all the negative energy from her - this really has > worked for her - Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet > - pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot > lose her! > > > > Hideyo > >
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That’s great- I am so glad that you do that with Bea and Satch – power of intensions is very powerful.. my AC told me about the movie called secret – it’s at true story and it’s about when you put mind to it you can accomplish anything – so instead of trying to be all worry, I try to stay positive and inspiring and energetic around Dharma as I know that she get influenced by me, too.. please leslies, continue to visualize her with white beams of light.. J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leslie Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:02 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hideyo, I am doing your visualization, it did really seem to help Dharma last time. In fact, thanks to you, I do that visualization with Bea and Satch all the time now, even though they are doing well, as a preventative and it helps to keep me positive. I'll close my eyes and do this for Dharma all the time. Leslie From: "Hideyo Yamamoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Thanks, Nina -- it means so much to me and Dharma.. I cannot stop crying when I think of the fear.. but I don't let Dharma see it, because she needs to be positive and she needs me to be positive - she is such a strong baby and I am so proud of her.. now I am trying low dose oral protocol to see if it makes her feel better..
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Actually, anemia is one of the common symptoms of FIP as well, usually mild anemia, but as the condition gets worse their PCV could drop.. both of my Naomi and Peter were mildly anemic when they were first diagnosed, but Naomi got more anemic – I hate “anemia” – it’s too frustrating – there aren’t many I can do – though I know she is not at a point where she needs transfusion yet.. but if needed, I would try it, and would also try epogen.. I called about Acemanna again as you suggested when I was having a problem with Tsubomi – unfortunately it’s still discontinued temporarily.. Presisolone is one of the treatments suggested for FIP – haven’t used yet – as FIP is auto immune disease, their own immune system attack their body.. I have been giving her moducare as immune balancer. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hideyo, sending prayers. If she is anemic, wouldn't that be a sign that she has something other than FIP, like leukemia the cancer or something else hard to diagnose (but potentially treatable, or at least manageable for a while with steroids)? Michelle
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Hideyo, sending prayers. If she is anemic, wouldn't that be a sign that she has something other than FIP, like leukemia the cancer or something else hard to diagnose (but potentially treatable, or at least manageable for a while with steroids)? Michelle
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Sending Prayers and White Light too... elizabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:15 PM Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Thanks, Nina -- it means so much to me and Dharma.. I cannot stop crying when I think of the fear.. but I don’t let Dharma see it, because she needs to be positive and she needs me to be positive – she is such a strong baby and I am so proud of her.. now I am trying low dose oral protocol to see if it makes her feel better.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Bless it Hideyo, I'm sorry to hear Dharma is not eating as well. She hasn't left my prayers and I'll do the visualization of white light surrounding you both. Com'on Dharma, we're all pulling for you! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what’s call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale – I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don’t want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her – this really has worked for her – Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet – pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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Hideyo, I am doing your visualization, it did really seem to help Dharma last time. In fact, thanks to you, I do that visualization with Bea and Satch all the time now, even though they are doing well, as a preventative and it helps to keep me positive. I'll close my eyes and do this for Dharma all the time. Leslie From: "Hideyo Yamamoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!Thanks, Nina -- it means so much to me and Dharma.. I cannot stop cryingwhen I think of the fear.. but I don't let Dharma see it, because she needs to be positive and she needs me to be positive - she is such astrong baby and I am so proud of her.. now I am trying low dose oralprotocol to see if it makes her feel better..
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Hideyo, Prayers going out that little Dharma begins eating better and that she regains her color. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Thank you Barbara.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! all possible GLOW headed toward you and Dharma. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:32:07 AM Subject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what’s call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale – I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don’t want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her – this really has worked for her – Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet – pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
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Title: Message Thanks, Kerry – we really appreciate it!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Sending zillions of healing vibes, and a protective circle of lights, for your sweet Dharma, Hideyo. And big hugs to you both, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:32 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what’s call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale – I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don’t want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her – this really has worked for her – Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet – pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Thanks, Nina -- it means so much to me and Dharma.. I cannot stop crying when I think of the fear.. but I don’t let Dharma see it, because she needs to be positive and she needs me to be positive – she is such a strong baby and I am so proud of her.. now I am trying low dose oral protocol to see if it makes her feel better.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:44 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Bless it Hideyo, I'm sorry to hear Dharma is not eating as well. She hasn't left my prayers and I'll do the visualization of white light surrounding you both. Com'on Dharma, we're all pulling for you! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what’s call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale – I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don’t want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her – this really has worked for her – Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet – pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
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I am saying many prayers for your baby. Nancy Schneider Management Analyst Dept of Transportation 12544 Saticoy St N Hollywood 91605 Voice(818) 756-9558 Fax (818) 756-9245 >>> "Hideyo Yamamoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/25/06 9:32 AM >>> Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what's call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale - I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don't want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her - this really has worked for her - Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet - pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
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all possible GLOW headed toward you and Dharma. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:32:07 AMSubject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what’s call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale – I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don’t want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her – this really has worked for her – Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet – pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
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Bless it Hideyo, I'm sorry to hear Dharma is not eating as well. She hasn't left my prayers and I'll do the visualization of white light surrounding you both. Com'on Dharma, we're all pulling for you! Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what’s call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale – I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don’t want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her – this really has worked for her – Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet – pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
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Title: Message Sending zillions of healing vibes, and a protective circle of lights, for your sweet Dharma, Hideyo. And big hugs to you both, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:32 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!! Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what’s call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale – I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don’t want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her – this really has worked for her – Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet – pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
OT:Need prayers for my baby Dharma again pleease!!
Hi, everyone, I am here to ask again to send healing positive energy to my Dharma who is trying to over come what’s call fatal disease FIP .. She has been doing really well with Feline interferon treatment and noticed that she is eating less the last day or two and seems a bit pale – I am debating over to take her to the vet or not to draw a blood.. but I don’t want to stress her out unless I have a solution to the problem that she has.. Please please send her healing vibes and please imagine Dharma is surrounded by and protected by a bunch of white beam of lights so that she can bounce back all the negative energy from her – this really has worked for her – Dharma is a tiny beautiful calico girl with three feet – pleaes everyone.. I need lots of and lots of prayers!!! I just cannot lose her! Hideyo
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More prayers for you and Tsubomi, Hideyo. tcindy reasoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hideyo, I am sending prayers to you and Tsubomi. Ihope she can pull through this.Cindy Reasoner--- Hideyo Yamamoto<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I> am doing everything> I can for her right now and they don't have any> other suggestions and> she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to> put her through ---> epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix - they have> been all suggested by> at least one of them - but her being felk - they are> basically> attributing her symptoms to the illness and they> are very skeptical -> so in a way, I am on my own -it's sort of up to me> to try what I thnk it> will help her - though I know that she is losing> blood or have perhaps> now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing> after she moves> around ---they took exray on her Friday though they> did not see any> fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not> so much) and that's> why my vet suggested lasix - I am not again wanting> her to go through> the stress of ultrasound as they may not find> anything for sure anyway -> (and they did not see any mass through extray) - I> feel that she is> losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand> there is NOTHING I> can do about it - except I try epogen to see if it> works for her.. I> will see if I can get acemannan -as it was on hold> by the government a> couple of months ago ---> > > > > > On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > > > > Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble> and I need> your help - > > > > She was fine until very recently but noticed that> something was> wrong > > definitely this morning just the way she as> sitting.. so I took> her to > > the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the> emergency> clinic and s > > had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the> transfusion,> now she is > > running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is> reaction from > > transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited> very think> blood and > > tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from> stool.. and I> am very > > scared.. all the blood work was normal except high> (50,000 range> of WBC) > > - it could be cancer or it could be some type of> infection.. she> is on > > clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- > > > > > > Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not> really sure> what's > > directly causing it and I really didi not want her> to continue> to be > > checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen> though her> kidney is > > fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it> own't hurt?> Also I > > was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please> any insight> is > > appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I> wanted to do> everything I > > can to make her feel better. > > > > __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
Hideyo, some people on this list have reversed severe anemia in positives with a few abdominal injections of acemannan. Have you considered this? Michelle
Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
Hideyo, I am sending prayers to you and Tsubomi. I hope she can pull through this. Cindy Reasoner --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I > am doing everything > I can for her right now and they don't have any > other suggestions and > she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to > put her through --- > epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix - they have > been all suggested by > at least one of them - but her being felk - they are > basically > attributing her symptoms to the illness and they > are very skeptical - > so in a way, I am on my own -it's sort of up to me > to try what I thnk it > will help her - though I know that she is losing > blood or have perhaps > now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing > after she moves > around ---they took exray on her Friday though they > did not see any > fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not > so much) and that's > why my vet suggested lasix - I am not again wanting > her to go through > the stress of ultrasound as they may not find > anything for sure anyway - > (and they did not see any mass through extray) - I > feel that she is > losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand > there is NOTHING I > can do about it - except I try epogen to see if it > works for her.. I > will see if I can get acemannan -as it was on hold > by the government a > couple of months ago --- > > > > > > On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > > > > Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble > and I need > your help - > > > > She was fine until very recently but noticed that > something was > wrong > > definitely this morning just the way she as > sitting.. so I took > her to > > the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the > emergency > clinic and s > > had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the > transfusion, > now she is > > running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is > reaction from > > transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited > very think > blood and > > tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from > stool.. and I > am very > > scared.. all the blood work was normal except high > (50,000 range > of WBC) > > - it could be cancer or it could be some type of > infection.. she > is on > > clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- > > > > > > Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not > really sure > what's > > directly causing it and I really didi not want her > to continue > to be > > checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen > though her > kidney is > > fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it > own't hurt? > Also I > > was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please > any insight > is > > appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I > wanted to do > everything I > > can to make her feel better. > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
Hideyo, my heart is with you. I know you love these babies so much. If I ever come back as a cat - I will search you out. Love and light and prayers to you and your clan. love, elizabeth In a message dated 10/8/2006 12:02:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not given up yet and neither is Tsubomi and we will keep fighgting together somehow until she asks me not to.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kellySent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:35 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help! At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote:I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much can be done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no longer happy here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at home??Please let me know if I can do anything for youKelly Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing everything I can for her right now and they don’t have any other suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix – they have been all suggested by at least one of them – but her being felk – they are basically attributing her symptoms to the illness and they are very skeptical – so in a way, I am on my own –it’s sort of up to me to try what I thnk it will help her – though I know that she is losing blood or have perhaps now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing after she moves around ---they took exray on her Friday though they did not see any fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not so much) and that’s why my vet suggested lasix – I am not again wanting her to go through the stress of ultrasound as they may not find anything for sure anyway – (and they did not see any mass through extray) – I feel that she is losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand there is NOTHING I can do about it – except I try epogen to see if it works for her.. I will see if I can get acemannan –as it was on hold by the government a couple of months ago --- On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help - She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) - it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have.
Re: My baby Tsubomi is in trouble - please help! - michelle
I am glad that the bleeding stopped. Absent an ultrasound, you are doing everything you can do. Is she eating at all? Moving around? Michelle In a message dated 10/8/2006 12:39:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you michelle, I was hoping that you would respond to me – she is on carafate already, but since she is no longer vomiting or having bloody stools, I don’t think she has an internal bleeding.. I don’t know.. I did read when a cat is severe anemia, they will vomit blood and have bloody stools as blood get too concentrated and I feel that that’s what happened – She no longer has high fever – again I am giving her interferon right now – I have given epogen and predisolone also – but again,, I am just not sure –I may give her lasix as she has a bit difficult time breathing after she moves around or get streesed out.
Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
Hideyo, Prayers going out for little Tsubomi. I hope the Epogen helps immediately! :) Wendy --- Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I > am doing everything > I can for her right now and they don't have any > other suggestions and > she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to > put her through --- > epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix - they have > been all suggested by > at least one of them - but her being felk - they are > basically > attributing her symptoms to the illness and they > are very skeptical - > so in a way, I am on my own -it's sort of up to me > to try what I thnk it > will help her - though I know that she is losing > blood or have perhaps > now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing > after she moves > around ---they took exray on her Friday though they > did not see any > fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not > so much) and that's > why my vet suggested lasix - I am not again wanting > her to go through > the stress of ultrasound as they may not find > anything for sure anyway - > (and they did not see any mass through extray) - I > feel that she is > losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand > there is NOTHING I > can do about it - except I try epogen to see if it > works for her.. I > will see if I can get acemannan -as it was on hold > by the government a > couple of months ago --- > > > > > > On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: > > > > Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble > and I need > your help - > > > > She was fine until very recently but noticed that > something was > wrong > > definitely this morning just the way she as > sitting.. so I took > her to > > the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the > emergency > clinic and s > > had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the > transfusion, > now she is > > running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is > reaction from > > transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited > very think > blood and > > tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from > stool.. and I > am very > > scared.. all the blood work was normal except high > (50,000 range > of WBC) > > - it could be cancer or it could be some type of > infection.. she > is on > > clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- > > > > > > Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not > really sure > what's > > directly causing it and I really didi not want her > to continue > to be > > checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen > though her > kidney is > > fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it > own't hurt? > Also I > > was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please > any insight > is > > appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I > wanted to do > everything I > > can to make her feel better. > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
Actually I have some, I bought some when Garfunkle has liver problems.. please send an article,, but I think I would try – this wouldn’t hurt – thanks, Kelly. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kelly Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:31 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help! At 10:10 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote: It seems nonregenerative – from recit count – it showed 1% - This may be off the wall...but I posted an article from a vet on his opinion that Sam E or Denosyl for cats and dogs aside from assisting the liver preserves the RBC and really helps with Anemia, It can be purchased most places, My cat is on it, It is only a pill,,,do not crush and needs to be given on an empty stomach,,,2-3 hours before and after mealsI will find the article and send it again to you. Kelly From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of kelly Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help! At 09:59 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote: I understand and would do the same..Please ..559 645-5050 any time, The carafate is great for the tummy,,,especially if you are using steroids,,Is her anemia of the regenerative or non regenerative type?? I have not given up yet and neither is Tsubomi and we will keep fighgting together somehow until she asks me not to.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of kelly Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:35 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help! At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote: I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much can be done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no longer happy here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at home??Please let me know if I can do anything for you Kelly Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing everything I can for her right now and they don’t have any other suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix – they have been all suggested by at least one of them – but her being felk – they are basically attributing her symptoms to the illness and they are very skeptical – so in a way, I am on my own –it’s sort of up to me to try what I thnk it will help her – though I know that she is losing blood or have perhaps now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing after she moves around ---they took exray on her Friday though they did not see any fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not so much) and that’s why my vet suggested lasix – I am not again wanting her to go through the stress of ultrasound as they may not find anything for sure anyway – (and they did not see any mass through extray) – I feel that she is losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand there is NOTHING I can do about it – except I try epogen to see if it works for her.. I will see if I can get acemannan –as it was on hold by the government a couple of months ago --- On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help - She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) - it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006
RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
At 10:10 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote: It seems nonregenerative from recit count it showed 1% - This may be off the wall...but I posted an article from a vet on his opinion that Sam E or Denosyl for cats and dogs aside from assisting the liver preserves the RBC and really helps with Anemia, It can be purchased most places, My cat is on it, It is only a pill,,,do not crush and needs to be given on an empty stomach,,,2-3 hours before and after mealsI will find the article and send it again to you. Kelly From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of kelly Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help! At 09:59 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote: I understand and would do the same..Please ..559 645-5050 any time, The carafate is great for the tummy,,,especially if you are using steroids,,Is her anemia of the regenerative or non regenerative type?? I have not given up yet and neither is Tsubomi and we will keep fighgting together somehow until she asks me not to.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of kelly Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:35 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help! At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote: I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much can be done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no longer happy here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at home??Please let me know if I can do anything for you Kelly Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing everything I can for her right now and they dont have any other suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix they have been all suggested by at least one of them but her being felk they are basically attributing her symptoms to the illness and they are very skeptical so in a way, I am on my own its sort of up to me to try what I thnk it will help her though I know that she is losing blood or have perhaps now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing after she moves around ---they took exray on her Friday though they did not see any fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not so much) and thats why my vet suggested lasix I am not again wanting her to go through the stress of ultrasound as they may not find anything for sure anyway (and they did not see any mass through extray) I feel that she is losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand there is NOTHING I can do about it except I try epogen to see if it works for her.. I will see if I can get acemannan as it was on hold by the government a couple of months ago --- On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help - She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) - it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006
Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
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RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
Hideyo, I am so sorry that Tsubomi is so ill. Here are vibes that she gets better. Diane R. <>
RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
It seems nonregenerative – from recit count – it showed 1% - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kelly Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help! At 09:59 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote: I understand and would do the same..Please ..559 645-5050 any time, The carafate is great for the tummy,,,especially if you are using steroids,,Is her anemia of the regenerative or non regenerative type?? I have not given up yet and neither is Tsubomi and we will keep fighgting together somehow until she asks me not to.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of kelly Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:35 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help! At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote: I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much can be done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no longer happy here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at home??Please let me know if I can do anything for you Kelly Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing everything I can for her right now and they don’t have any other suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix – they have been all suggested by at least one of them – but her being felk – they are basically attributing her symptoms to the illness and they are very skeptical – so in a way, I am on my own –it’s sort of up to me to try what I thnk it will help her – though I know that she is losing blood or have perhaps now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing after she moves around ---they took exray on her Friday though they did not see any fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not so much) and that’s why my vet suggested lasix – I am not again wanting her to go through the stress of ultrasound as they may not find anything for sure anyway – (and they did not see any mass through extray) – I feel that she is losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand there is NOTHING I can do about it – except I try epogen to see if it works for her.. I will see if I can get acemannan –as it was on hold by the government a couple of months ago --- On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help - She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) - it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006
RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
At 09:59 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote: I understand and would do the same..Please ..559 645-5050 any time, The carafate is great for the tummy,,,especially if you are using steroids,,Is her anemia of the regenerative or non regenerative type?? I have not given up yet and neither is Tsubomi and we will keep fighgting together somehow until she asks me not to.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of kelly Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:35 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help! At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote: I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much can be done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no longer happy here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at home??Please let me know if I can do anything for you Kelly Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing everything I can for her right now and they dont have any other suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix they have been all suggested by at least one of them but her being felk they are basically attributing her symptoms to the illness and they are very skeptical so in a way, I am on my own its sort of up to me to try what I thnk it will help her though I know that she is losing blood or have perhaps now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing after she moves around ---they took exray on her Friday though they did not see any fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not so much) and thats why my vet suggested lasix I am not again wanting her to go through the stress of ultrasound as they may not find anything for sure anyway (and they did not see any mass through extray) I feel that she is losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand there is NOTHING I can do about it except I try epogen to see if it works for her.. I will see if I can get acemannan as it was on hold by the government a couple of months ago --- On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help - She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) - it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006
RE: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
I have not given up yet and neither is Tsubomi and we will keep fighgting together somehow until she asks me not to.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kelly Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:35 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help! At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote: I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much can be done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no longer happy here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at home??Please let me know if I can do anything for you Kelly Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing everything I can for her right now and they don’t have any other suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix – they have been all suggested by at least one of them – but her being felk – they are basically attributing her symptoms to the illness and they are very skeptical – so in a way, I am on my own –it’s sort of up to me to try what I thnk it will help her – though I know that she is losing blood or have perhaps now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing after she moves around ---they took exray on her Friday though they did not see any fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not so much) and that’s why my vet suggested lasix – I am not again wanting her to go through the stress of ultrasound as they may not find anything for sure anyway – (and they did not see any mass through extray) – I feel that she is losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand there is NOTHING I can do about it – except I try epogen to see if it works for her.. I will see if I can get acemannan –as it was on hold by the government a couple of months ago --- On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help - She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) - it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006
RE: My baby Tsubomi is in trouble - please help! - michelle
Thank you michelle, I was hoping that you would respond to me – she is on carafate already, but since she is no longer vomiting or having bloody stools, I don’t think she has an internal bleeding.. I don’t know.. I did read when a cat is severe anemia, they will vomit blood and have bloody stools as blood get too concentrated and I feel that that’s what happened – She no longer has high fever – again I am giving her interferon right now – I have given epogen and predisolone also – but again,, I am just not sure –I may give her lasix as she has a bit difficult time breathing after she moves around or get streesed out. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: My baby Tsubomi is in trouble - please help! Hideyo, it sounds like she is anemic from losing blood, which means that no medicine is going to help her unless it stops the bleeding. If she has a bleeding ulcer, she should be given Carafate, which is a medicine that seals up ulcers. Prednisone can make ulcers worse. If she has a bleeding tumor, nothing will help unless the tumor stops bleeding, which sometimes happens. I would ask for Carafate and maybe do an ultrasound. Some vets can do an edoscapy, which is a scope that does not cut into the body at all, and they need only light anesthesia for it. The fever can come from having a reaction to the transfusion. Did they give her a benadryl shot? The hospital that did Simon's transfusions gave him one prophylactically before each transfusion I think. Michelle In a message dated 10/7/2006 2:22:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help – She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) – it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what’s directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked out –I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own’t hurt? Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated – she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better.
Re: My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
At 09:17 AM 10/8/2006, you wrote: I am so sad for your little baby. It is so hard when it seems not much can be done except to gently assist her across the bridge when she is no longer happy here, It is so painful. Do you have the epogen at home??Please let me know if I can do anything for you Kelly Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing everything I can for her right now and they dont have any other suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix they have been all suggested by at least one of them but her being felk they are basically attributing her symptoms to the illness and they are very skeptical so in a way, I am on my own its sort of up to me to try what I thnk it will help her though I know that she is losing blood or have perhaps now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing after she moves around ---they took exray on her Friday though they did not see any fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not so much) and thats why my vet suggested lasix I am not again wanting her to go through the stress of ultrasound as they may not find anything for sure anyway (and they did not see any mass through extray) I feel that she is losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand there is NOTHING I can do about it except I try epogen to see if it works for her.. I will see if I can get acemannan as it was on hold by the government a couple of months ago --- On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help - She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) - it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.1/466 - Release Date: 10/7/2006
My baby Tsubomi (felk) is in trouble - please help!
Well - I talked to three vets and they feel that I am doing everything I can for her right now and they don’t have any other suggestions and she gets really stressed out and I am not wanting to put her through --- epogen, interferon, and steroid, lasix – they have been all suggested by at least one of them – but her being felk – they are basically attributing her symptoms to the illness and they are very skeptical – so in a way, I am on my own –it’s sort of up to me to try what I thnk it will help her – though I know that she is losing blood or have perhaps now fluid in heart as she has a hard time breathing after she moves around ---they took exray on her Friday though they did not see any fluid in her chest , but a little in her tummy (not so much) and that’s why my vet suggested lasix – I am not again wanting her to go through the stress of ultrasound as they may not find anything for sure anyway – (and they did not see any mass through extray) – I feel that she is losing blood as she seems pale and as I understand there is NOTHING I can do about it – except I try epogen to see if it works for her.. I will see if I can get acemannan –as it was on hold by the government a couple of months ago --- On Oct 6, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help - She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) - it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what's directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked out -I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own't hurt? Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated - she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better.
Re: My baby Tsubomi is in trouble - please help!
Hideyo, it sounds like she is anemic from losing blood, which means that no medicine is going to help her unless it stops the bleeding. If she has a bleeding ulcer, she should be given Carafate, which is a medicine that seals up ulcers. Prednisone can make ulcers worse. If she has a bleeding tumor, nothing will help unless the tumor stops bleeding, which sometimes happens. I would ask for Carafate and maybe do an ultrasound. Some vets can do an edoscapy, which is a scope that does not cut into the body at all, and they need only light anesthesia for it. The fever can come from having a reaction to the transfusion. Did they give her a benadryl shot? The hospital that did Simon's transfusions gave him one prophylactically before each transfusion I think. Michelle In a message dated 10/7/2006 2:22:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help – She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) – it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what’s directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked out –I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own’t hurt? Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated – she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better.
Re: My baby Tsubomi is in trouble - please help!
At 11:21 PM 10/6/2006, you wrote: How long after the transfusion did they keep herThere are reactions to transfusions that cause fevers,,Is she bleeding internally anywhere, If she has some kind of bleed into her stomach that might cause her to first vomit and then have bloody stool. Was the blood in her stool fresh (red) or black?? Was ther any signs of blood in her stomach??That makes them nauseated also and would account for the blood loss and low PCVare they going to recheck her labs now that she has been transfused??Is she eating at all now???Are you going to start the Omega interferon??Good choice I think...Did they do any xray? to see if there were any masses or lesions? I guess these are all questions..I will be sending many good thought to you and your baby tonight,,,Please kepp us informed ... Kelly Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure whats directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked out I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it ownt hurt? Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/2006
My baby Tsubomi is in trouble - please help!
Hi, one of my felk babies is in a serious trouble and I need your help – She was fine until very recently but noticed that something was wrong definitely this morning just the way she as sitting.. so I took her to the vet, and her PCV was 9.6 and took her to the emergency clinic and s had a traqnsfusion, she was fine right after the transfusion, now she is running fever of 106.8.. I am assuming that it is reaction from transfusion. Prior to the transfusion, she vomited very think blood and tons of it.. and now I saw tons of blood came from stool.. and I am very scared.. all the blood work was normal except high (50,000 range of WBC) – it could be cancer or it could be some type of infection.. she is on clavmox and I just gave her predisolone --- Any insights are appreciated.. the vets are not really sure what’s directly causing it and I really didi not want her to continue to be checked out –I was thinking of giving her epogen though her kidney is fine, I thought it migh help anemia or at least it own’t hurt? Also I was going to start on interferon tomorrow.. please any insight is appreciated – she is just a sweet girl,, and I wanted to do everything I can to make her feel better.
Re: my baby crackers
Had you ever had Crackers tested previously? Was he vaccinated? I think it's highly unlikely Crackers got leukemia from Pokemon. Was Pokeman ever tested? I don't think you should blame yourself for bringing Pokemon in, and I doubt that is how Crackers got felv. If Crackers does have felv he sounds very healthy and could live a very long life. You'll get lots of good advice from this list. tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About last Oct. we found Pokemon at our local park. She had a pink collor on and was so tame and lovable. But she was skinny. I thought I was doing an excellent thing bringing her home and my son 4 and niece 9 wouldn't have it any other way. She seemed to gain weight when she got here. She was small so i thought she was still a kitten about 4-5 months. Well a few weeks ago Pokemon started "coughing" she got into the basement and had insulation on her nose. So when the coughing was still going on but not as bad I thought she must have sniffed some insulation. Last Monday her breathing semed like a deep hard breathing and she was always so skinny i didn't notice a weight lost. I went down into the basment i live in a triplex...i found rat poisoning in a corner on a shelf. I rushed her to my local animal hospital and they told me that she needed emergency care...so we drove to unniversity of penn animal emergency hospital. They took her right in. I was thinking oh no rat poisoning..we dont even have mice here. Well finally after getting half assed answers and them saying it could be this or that...she told me that Pokemon had an abundancy of fluided in her lungs and finally was told that she had lyphomia and that they estimated Pokemon to be between 5-7 yrs old based on teeth and kidney size. To do the full tests and amit her to the ICU unit would be between $6000-$8000 estimate and we needed to put $1300 down. And they were so kind to let us have 5 mins to decide. Also the dr. said that this lyphomia could have been from Feline Aids or Feline Luekemia and that Cracks may have been affected. Now my mind was shot. I decided to euthanize her when they said she was so sick that they also believed she had this for awhile and was little hope. Ok on to Crackers. On the way home from putting Pokemon to sleep I immediately called my vet to get Crackers tested for FIV AND The luekemia. That was Tuesday and today is Saturday. Last nite Friday cracker had his appointment the dr said looks like he will be negative for both but we still have about 2 mins. Well he said oh we do have a positive. As my heart dropped he got his book and said feline luekemia. The dot that registared was a little very lite blue dot. I told him to send out the other ultra violet test. They should be back Sun morning and with the holiday if not sun then Mon. He said Crackers looked very Healthy and strong. I asked him over and over being in shock if there were false positives and he said that the test didn't have any. Here is a little of Crackers history: he is my big baby 18.6 lbs..he has NEVER been sick ever...no colds nothing and he only had diareahha 1 day when he was a yr old. He is very loving and happy..has never been outside except when he would run out and i was right after him. That he grew out of. He has a hearty appetite. I leave out food and fresh water 24-7 for him. He lives a very stress free life and is a LOVER boy he loves to purr and be rubbed. I am willing to do anything in the world for him and i will. I am open to all and all suggestions. And all I can remember is that the 1st month pokemon came they would fight and he did have a bite mark that bleed..he is all white. So i know he suffered a deep wound puncture for her. What kills me is how dense I was. I based Pokemon like a book by its cover. She was beautiful and so sweet I NEVER realized i should of had her tested and never brought her near my baby. I will never be able to forgive myself for Cracker being a positive Feline Leukemia. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Re: my baby crackers
Hi, My name is Wendy. I've been on this site for about 10 months now and have learned so much. My FeLV+ passed away, but it was so late when I found this group, there wasn't enough time to save him. I think that Crackers has a much better chance. I'm sorry to hear about Pokemon. I find, however, that things happen for a reason, and you did the right thing by loving Pokemon. You didn't know about the risks of taking her in, so please don't beat yourself up. So many of us here have exposed our kitties by unknowingly taking in an FeLV+ before we were educated on FeLV. I exposed three others by taking in Cricket, my FeLV+. They are all negative. Everyone has posted great info. so far for you. One thing I didn't see was how old Crackers was. That is important. If he is older, then it is harder for him to contract FeLV, as Chris said. Or rather, easier for him to throw it off if exposed. From our experiences here, adults almost never contract FeLV. It's the kittens that contract it permanently. So I wouldn't worry too much until you test and retest. The only thing that might be a problem is that Pokemon and Crackers were fighting and the veterinary community doesn't know enough about this virus to know if indirect exposure (sharing water bowls, grooming) versus direct exposure (introducing the virus directly to the bloodstream) plays a part in throwing off this virus. It could. In the meantime, I would change Cracker's diet, as Phaewryn pointed out. I feed mine Innova. You can't get the good stuff at a grocery or discount store, nor can you get it at Petsmart or Petco (although you can buy Eukanueba there, but it's not good food either, imo.) Also, vitamin C and L-lyine (without propyline glycol) are good immune supplements. The other big thing is to keep Crackers stress-free. I would also find another vet. One that does not feel euthanasia is the only option with FeLV+ kitties. One that is educated. You can figure this out by calling different vets in the area and speaking with them directly about their philosophy on treating FeLV+'s. You'll get a good feel for a vet this way. Your vet was wrong about the test not having any false positives. Try not to freak out too much. We all love our furbabies dearly here, and you have found a good place to be while dealing with this. It's a great source of support. If you'd like, I can email you a sick and regular care kitty manual that I compiled. I can't attach it to these postings, but I can send it to you directly if you'd like. It's got a lot of info. in it. Please keep us posted on your kitty's diagnosis, etc. :) Wendy Dallas, Tx P.S. I think $6000-8000 for treatment for Pokemon is RIDICULOUS Just ludicrous!!! And I don't necessarily agree with their diagnosis and what they said should be done. I wouldn't go there again if you can avoid it. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: my baby crackers
thank you for the list...i am writing them down and going out to get the best for my baby...did anyone ever have a problem with a cat switching diets? like not liking a new food? in that case can i wean him off of meow mix by...mixing the new with old at first? any suggestions..my cat loves to eat 18.6lbs but is set in his ways..no house food...or any homemade mushy foods?
RE: my baby crackers
The thing about food is that some of this food can be pretty pricey… You sort of have to balance things. Keep in mind that they don’t eat quite as much of the better quality food as some of the cheaper brand… I order Wellness online from The Hungry Puppy in NJ & even though there’s shipping charge, it still comes out cheaper than other places. One can goes a long way even with all 5 of them… They tend to eat smaller portions. However, not everybody can do that so you shouldn’t feel that you have to spend a fortune on food. You can always mix foods with home made sort of---boiled chicken or boiled any meat cut up in little pieces. All my cats like one veg or another & they love eggs & cheese. There’s a brand called Figaro and once in a while I throw in a can as its just tuna & veggies. Basically, I try to give them a balanced diet, to stay away from stuff that fills them but doesn’t give them nutrition, and to vary things a bit just so they don’t get into a ‘I don’t like that cat food anymore’ mood! That’s just my way of doing it- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 4:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: my baby crackers Where do you buy your cat food? If it's the grocery store, that's the first problem you have to solve. You need to get a phone book, and look up a pet supply store in your area. Once you find one, go to the store, and pick up a bag of cat food, flip it over, and read the ingredients (don't even bother reading anything that's sold in a grocery store, it's all crap). If it doesn't have MEAT as the first (and preferably the first two) ingredients, put it back on the shelf and move on to the next food down. Do this until you find one that DOES have MEAT as the first ingredient. At the same time, you can also look for corn in the ingredients, and try to avoid those too. What you can afford will ultimately tell you how far you can go in buying the best food you can. I personally recommend California Natural or Innova (or Healthwise, for budget-minded people). But there are other good brands too. Others will make brand suggestions, I'm sure. OR, just search our archives, this has been discussed many times in the past on this list. A few other good brands: Chicken Soup, Felidae, Natural Balance, Newman's Own, Pinnacle, Premium Edge Kitten, Wellness, Wysong Archetype Diet, (Eukanuba is an acceptable food is nothing better can be found locally, better than what's sold in grocery stores). Some brands carry several products in their lines. Some are better than others, for example, Premium Edge CAT food is not good, but their KITTEN food is. Wysong's feline diet is not good, but their archetype diet is good. Etc.. Other brands will have good first 2 or three ingredients, but if you keep reading it just gets crazy as you go down the list of ingredients, for example, MANY otherwise good premium cat foods (with meat as the first 2 ingredients and no corn) add garlic, blueberries, and all kinds of other crazy nonsense to their foods. I don't recommend those, simply because they are MORE likely to cause allergies, and garlic is not safe to feed cats at all, I recently learned on this list. Not sure why otherwise good cat foods add something so dangerous to their products, lack of education, I suppose. Anyways, point is, read carefully. There should be NO onion, garlic, or corn, and preferably not a lot of fruit and veggies, as cats are carnivores. Also, herbs add to the chances of allergic reactions too. The more ingredients, the more you're playing with fire as far as allergies go. That's why I prefer the California Natural chicken and rice, VERY basic ingredients! Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners: http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program: http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster & Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more! It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need!
RE: my baby crackers
Its tough to find a vet who has a realistic attitude about FELV. My first vet, who was wonderful, was upfront with me when my Tucson tested pos. He told me that he had very little experience with FELV. I found a second vet who coincidentally is the vet for a local rescuer who takes in FELV cats and he’s been great. Never batted an eyelash when I talked to him about mixing; never treated Tucson any differently. She has a tendency to develop low white blood count & he gives her immuno-regulin when that happens. Outside or that, we do nothing special. I changed all their food—they were all indoor cats & a couple of them, including Tucson, got to be real porkos! I give them Wellness wet food and eliminated most of the dry food. There are different foods out there and I know people will give you ideas. Since switching, one of my cats has lost weight and Tucson, well she’s lost a bit but its tough with the ‘feline vacumn cleaner’! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 12:05 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: re: my baby crackers i looked at my acts food the first 2 things are corn and corn gluten...any suggestions for a better food..he also eats whiskers wet packets...i am waiting for this vet to call me he said he would...i am a wreck and i am going to find a new vet..hopefully there is one around..the vet did the test that checks for FIV/feline luekemia...at the last min a tiny blue dot appearred very faint...he got his book and said it was luekemia...i was so excited that he said looks like its gonna be neg..to a total SHOCK...he said i can send out the other test and i said YES!! he said i will personally call u the results should be in sun but with the holiday...blah blah blahi am waiting and praying..also i noticed on the elisa test that the blood was splattered all messy on it...he said that the confirmation blue came up and that the test was done right...i am new to this board thanks to belinda she hooked me up...i never knew of so many diseases cats could have and i appreciate how much valuable info i have received so far THANK YOU
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i looked at my acts food the first 2 things are corn and corn gluten...any suggestions for a better food..he also eats whiskers wet packets...i am waiting for this vet to call me he said he would...i am a wreck and i am going to find a new vet..hopefully there is one around..the vet did the test that checks for FIV/feline luekemia...at the last min a tiny blue dot appearred very faint...he got his book and said it was luekemia...i was so excited that he said looks like its gonna be neg..to a total SHOCK...he said i can send out the other test and i said YES!! he said i will personally call u the results should be in sun but with the holiday...blah blah blahi am waiting and praying..also i noticed on the elisa test that the blood was splattered all messy on it...he said that the confirmation blue came up and that the test was done right...i am new to this board thanks to belinda she hooked me up...i never knew of so many diseases cats could have and i appreciate how much valuable info i have received so far THANK YOU
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Well, first off, find a vet that isn't so uneducated. The in house ELISA test has a very high rates of inaccurate results. Next, take another look at the food you are feeding, read the ingredients, it should have meat as the first ingredient, preferably the first two ingredients, and there should be NO corn in it at all. Good nutrition is the best thing you can do. Next, once you find a better vet, make sure they run a second IFA, because if your first vet did such a poor job running the ELISA, he could have messed up the sample being sent off for the IFA you had done through his office (good bedside manner dictates that you DON'T say "Oh it looks like he might be ok" TWO minutes before the test is complete, just to say "Oh, nevermind, he's infected" That's HORRIBLE bedside manner, it's just terrible)! Then, wait 3 months, and retest again. In the meantime, read about all the possible treatments on our main website, and consider trying one, or more, of them, in a hope that he can "throw" the virus. That does happen, cats can test positive, and then later become negative, if they mount an effective immune response to the initial infection. You also might consider a vitamin C supplement, to boost his immune system, and a good multi-vitamin supplement in general. Now, about your not testing prior to adding another cat, well, mistakes happen, All you can do is learn from it, and try to do better next time. Don't blame yourself for things you didn't know, and can't change now, that's pointless, and doesn't help anyone. Besides, FELV is not like FIV, it's not as contagious, it depends really very much on a cat's immune system, unlike FIV, which is almost always spread by a bite wound. Was Crackers ever tested in the past, before you adopted Pokemon? He might have had it all along. You didn't specifically say he tested positive for FELV, you said they did a combo test and he came up positive (and the doctor only knew that by looking in a book?), so I assume since this is a FELV group, he has felv, but does he have FIV too? I worry also, because if the vet had to look up how to read a combo test in a book, how many of these tests has he actually run? How OLD is the batch of test kits he is using? Has he been using the same pack of kits for the past 5 years? Are they expired? How could he possibly know ANYTHING about FELV if he doesn't even know HOW to run the test without reading the book? Scary, all put together. Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost Spay&Neuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster & Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
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thank you all so much who have posted so far your advice is keeping my family in excellent spirits THANK YOU so much and bless all your furry friends:)
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At 09:48 AM 9/2/2006, you wrote: In addition to the IFA test. Any test should be repeated in 2 months or so. Some cats have a transient positive after exposure and then are able to completely clear the virus because of a good immune system.. I am eagerly awaiting my 8 weeks on this new juvenile I am caring for, Kelly
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First off, its very hard for a healthy adult cat to ‘catch’ FELV. There are two tests—one is an in-house test, Elissa. Then there’s an IFA, blood sent out to lab. Be sure the vet specifically says he did IFA. Now having said all of this, believe me there are tens of thousands of cats who test pos for FELV and nobody ever knows it. My own didn’t test + until she was 4—I had her since she was a kitten and she’s never been outside. False + are not uncommon and further testing & retesting is in order… Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 1:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: my baby crackers I am sorry for your terrible experience, but it is absolutely not true that there are no false positives. I had a false positive on a kitten just a few months ago. The first thing I would do is to find a different vet. There are people here who will be able to give you more and better information, but I can tell you there are absolutely false positives. -- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life! http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese
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I am sorry for your terrible experience, but it is absolutely not true that there are no false positives. I had a false positive on a kitten just a few months ago. The first thing I would do is to find a different vet. There are people here who will be able to give you more and better information, but I can tell you there are absolutely false positives.-- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life! http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese
my baby crackers
About last Oct. we found Pokemon at our local park. She had a pink collor on and was so tame and lovable. But she was skinny. I thought I was doing an excellent thing bringing her home and my son 4 and niece 9 wouldn't have it any other way. She seemed to gain weight when she got here. She was small so i thought she was still a kitten about 4-5 months. Well a few weeks ago Pokemon started "coughing" she got into the basement and had insulation on her nose. So when the coughing was still going on but not as bad I thought she must have sniffed some insulation. Last Monday her breathing semed like a deep hard breathing and she was always so skinny i didn't notice a weight lost. I went down into the basment i live in a triplex...i found rat poisoning in a corner on a shelf. I rushed her to my local animal hospital and they told me that she needed emergency care...so we drove to unniversity of penn animal emergency hospital. They took her right in. I was thinking oh no rat poisoning..we dont even have mice here. Well finally after getting half assed answers and them saying it could be this or that...she told me that Pokemon had an abundancy of fluided in her lungs and finally was told that she had lyphomia and that they estimated Pokemon to be between 5-7 yrs old based on teeth and kidney size. To do the full tests and amit her to the ICU unit would be between $6000-$8000 estimate and we needed to put $1300 down. And they were so kind to let us have 5 mins to decide. Also the dr. said that this lyphomia could have been from Feline Aids or Feline Luekemia and that Cracks may have been affected. Now my mind was shot. I decided to euthanize her when they said she was so sick that they also believed she had this for awhile and was little hope. Ok on to Crackers. On the way home from putting Pokemon to sleep I immediately called my vet to get Crackers tested for FIV AND The luekemia. That was Tuesday and today is Saturday. Last nite Friday cracker had his appointment the dr said looks like he will be negative for both but we still have about 2 mins. Well he said oh we do have a positive. As my heart dropped he got his book and said feline luekemia. The dot that registared was a little very lite blue dot. I told him to send out the other ultra violet test. They should be back Sun morning and with the holiday if not sun then Mon. He said Crackers looked very Healthy and strong. I asked him over and over being in shock if there were false positives and he said that the test didn't have any. Here is a little of Crackers history: he is my big baby 18.6 lbs..he has NEVER been sick ever...no colds nothing and he only had diareahha 1 day when he was a yr old. He is very loving and happy..has never been outside except when he would run out and i was right after him. That he grew out of. He has a hearty appetite. I leave out food and fresh water 24-7 for him. He lives a very stress free life and is a LOVER boy he loves to purr and be rubbed. I am willing to do anything in the world for him and i will. I am open to all and all suggestions. And all I can remember is that the 1st month pokemon came they would fight and he did have a bite mark that bleed..he is all white. So i know he suffered a deep wound puncture for her. What kills me is how dense I was. I based Pokemon like a book by its cover. She was beautiful and so sweet I NEVER realized i should of had her tested and never brought her near my baby. I will never be able to forgive myself for Cracker being a positive Feline Leukemia. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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No, it is a stronger, faster-acting steroid than prednisone/prednisolone. Michelle In a message dated 8/1/2006 6:36:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it a type of antibiotics?
RE: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
She is quite amazing – she is a tough little girl – she is fighting and I am fighting with her.. I cannot wait to get home to be with her though. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. It's a steroid, Hideyo. It's good to know Naomi is still with us. Any improvement since the last update? N Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Is it a type of antibiotics? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 7:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. sending prayers, Hideyo. Have you tried giving her dexamethasone? If nothing else, it should keep her more comfortable. It may also reverse her symptoms. Michelle In a message dated 7/31/2006 5:18:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow – as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure
RE: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
We don’t know – except that FIP can cause non regenerative anemia --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:37 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. Isn't Naomi negative? What is causing the anemia? t Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask everyone one more time to send Naomi prayers and peaceful energy so that she can spend her final days peacefully without pain.. while I am trying to do what I can to save her life.. there is not much left.. she is losing her blood so quickly and very anemic.. and she is too small and can’t get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow – as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure her.. but I also believe that there is life after this life and she will be happier and heading to a better new life –I just wish I could spend for time with her.. I wish I could stay home and be with her.. as I work here, I am sending her love and prayer for her peace……
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It's a steroid, Hideyo. It's good to know Naomi is still with us. Any improvement since the last update? N Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Is it a type of antibiotics? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 7:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. sending prayers, Hideyo. Have you tried giving her dexamethasone? If nothing else, it should keep her more comfortable. It may also reverse her symptoms. Michelle In a message dated 7/31/2006 5:18:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow – as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure
RE: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
Is it a type of antibiotics? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 7:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. sending prayers, Hideyo. Have you tried giving her dexamethasone? If nothing else, it should keep her more comfortable. It may also reverse her symptoms. Michelle In a message dated 7/31/2006 5:18:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow – as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure
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Isn't Naomi negative? What is causing the anemia? tHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask everyone one more time to send Naomi prayers and peaceful energy so that she can spend her final days peacefully without pain.. while I am trying to do what I can to save her life.. there is not much left.. she is losing her blood so quickly and very anemic.. and she is too small and cant get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure her.. but I also believe that there is life after this life and she will be happier and heading to a better new life I just wish I could spend for time with her.. I wish I could stay home and be with her.. as I work here, I am sending her love and prayer for her peace
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Hideyo, I send prayers as well. Naomi feels your love surrounding her..Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marissa JohnsonSent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:31 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days.. Hideyo, I am praying for you and for Naomi and sending thoughts of peace and comfort your way. I cannot even imagine having to be at work while my baby is at home making her final journey...it must be torture for you! But know that you have done everything you can possibly do and that because of you she has known love, companionship, and a quality of care that she otherwise would not have had. She is lucky to have you! Hugs!! MarissaHideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask everyone one more time to send Naomi prayers and peaceful energy so that she can spend her final days peacefully without pain.. while I am trying to do what I can to save her life.. there is not much left.. she is losing her blood so quickly and very anemic.. and she is too small and can’t get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow – as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure her.. but I also believe that there is life after this life and she will be happier and heading to a better new life –I just wish I could spend for time with her.. I wish I could stay home and be with her.. as I work here, I am sending her love and prayer for her peace…… Do you Yahoo!?Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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My heart is breaking for you Hideyo. I pray that there will be a miracle? If not, then a peaceful passing for Naomi. Gina Hideyo Yamamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask everyone one more time to send Naomi prayers and peaceful energy so that she can spend her final days peacefully without pain.. while I am trying to do what I can to save her life.. there is not much left.. she is losing her blood so quickly and very anemic.. and she is too small and cant get her go through transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet.. she is sleeping comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that she is on the way to heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to let her pass peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she is only 4 months old and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking forward to see her grow as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to cure her.. but I also believe that there is life after this life and she will be happier and heading to a better new life I just wish I could spend for time with her.. I wish I could stay home and be with her.. as I work here, I am sending her love and prayer for her peace No heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
RE: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..
Hideyo, I'm praying for a miracle for your little girl. tJoan Doljan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Prayers coming from here as well. Joan"MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to second that. Sending prayers that sweet Naomi turns around.It can happen. hugs, Kerry-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cindy reasonerSent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:08 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Prayers for my baby Naomi for her final days..Hideyo,I am so sorry to hear about your baby Naomi. I knowyou must feel so helpless. You and Naomi are both inmy prayers. I pray that she is a miracle baby andsomehow pulls out of this. If not I pray that shespends her last days peacefully.Cindy--- Hideyo Yamamoto<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Hi, everyone, I wanted to ask everyone one more time> to send Naomi> prayers and peaceful energy so that she can spend> her final days> peacefully without pain.. while I am trying to do> what I can to save her> life.. there is not much left.. she is losing her> blood so quickly and> very anemic.. and she is too small and can't get> her go through> transfusion as she gets very stressed out at a vet..> she is sleeping> comfortably right now.. but my vet and I agree that> she is on the way to> heaven soon.. we thought that the bet thing was to> let her pass> peacefully at home.. this is so hard everyone.. she> is only 4 months old> and she is such a precious soul.. I was so looking> forward to see her> grow - as I watch her, there is nothing I can do to> cure her.. but I> also believe that there is life after this life and> she will be happier> and heading to a better new life -I just wish I> could spend for time> with her.. I wish I could stay home and be with> her.. as I work here, I> am sending her love and prayer for her peace..> > __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.comIRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.