Dixie Louise
I had a cat tested for FeLV a few weeks ago and she came back positive. We will retest soon. She is about a year old, maybe pregnant, and a throw away. I have never had this happen before and I have done spayrelease for several years with feral cats. I contacted vet who does alternative medicine and we have her on supplements hoping to boost her immune system. Can anyone give me any advise on how to care for this cat? I have one 13 year oldcat that is negative for FeLV but who has some health problems soI can't even consider letting them together. Any information would be appreciated.
RE: Dixie Louise
As for the immediate future, I'd determine if she is preg., if so and her basic health is good, you might want to have her spayed anyway. Kittens born to this mom will likely test positive (at least initially) and they will be very hard to place. Plus, she really doesn't need to have kittens but you will have to weigh the stress of the harder spay vs. letting her have the kittens If her health is good, I'd have her spayed. Tracy - Original Message - From: maimaipg To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: 7/12/2005 5:37:50 AM Subject: Dixie Louise I had a cat tested for FeLV a few weeks ago and she came back positive. We will retest soon. She is about a year old, maybe pregnant, and a throw away. I have never had this happen before and I have done spayrelease for several years with feral cats. I contacted vet who does alternative medicine and we have her on supplements hoping to boost her immune system. Can anyone give me any advise on how to care for this cat? I have one 13 year oldcat that is negative for FeLV but who has some health problems soI can't even consider letting them together. Any information would be appreciated.
Re: Dixie Louise
Hi, It sounds like your doing very good, boosting her immune system, and maybe feeding a good quality food like Wellness or something similar (something without by-products and grains). Keep stress down and think positive. What immune boosters is the vet giving her? -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dixie Louise
PS. It can take up to 3 months for a cat to fight off the virus (I've even known of a cat that took linger), so be patient and my motto think positive :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: CLS Monday July 11, 2005
Hi Chris, My apologies, I see I had the date incorrect (I had the 16th), I have fixed it now, take care. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
FIV+ Kitty
Just got a call from my vet about a female torti that she found at her barn that tested FIV+. She is willing to give me til the end of the day to see if we can find anybody that might be interested in taking her. She said she did fine on the car ride and is fine in the cage and will do ok in an indoor home. I'm getting married in a couple weeks and I have a very sick leuk positive at my home now so I just can't introduce this one into my home. Would anybody be willing to take her? She will spay her and worm her free of charge and I can transport her. She is an adult, possibly 3 or 4, don't know at this point. Amy Wilkins Woof Wagon www.woofwagon.com __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html
Re: FIV+ Kitty
Amy You forgot to mention WHERE the kitty is located... On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Amy Wilkins wrote: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:38:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: FIV+ Kitty Just got a call from my vet about a female torti that she found at her barn that tested FIV+. She is willing to give me til the end of the day to see if we can find anybody that might be interested in taking her. She said she did fine on the car ride and is fine in the cage and will do ok in an indoor home. I'm getting married in a couple weeks and I have a very sick leuk positive at my home now so I just can't introduce this one into my home. Would anybody be willing to take her? She will spay her and worm her free of charge and I can transport her. She is an adult, possibly 3 or 4, don't know at this point. Amy Wilkins Woof Wagon www.woofwagon.com __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html
Re: (no subject)
Are you saying that she's feral? Or is she a stray? Is it a light positive, or a strong positive? Gloria On Jul 11, 2005, at 3:58 PM, maimaipg wrote: I had a cat tested for FeLV a few weeks ago and she came back positive. We will retest soon. She is about a year old, maybe pregnant, and a throw away. I have never had this happen before and I have done spay release for several years with feral cats. I contacted vet who does alternative medicine and we have her on supplements hoping to boost her immune system. Can anyone give me any advise on how to care for this cat? I have one 13 year old cat that is negative for FeLV but who has some health problems so I can't even consider letting them together. Any information would be appreciated.
Re: Need advice for FELV+ 6 week old kitten!
Hmmm - well, if the kitten tests positive for FELV, then he has the virus. I think it's an antigen test isn't it, not antibodies, for the office Elisa test. But as I understand, his little immune system could still throw the virus off, as you said. He should be tested again. I really don't know what I'd do - try to support his immune system or leave him be and do it on his own. I'd probably look at Interferon. Re Vit C, Dr. Belfield has a reputation for Vit C, and for using it against FELV. www.belfield.com, I think. Re when to retest, I don't recall - seems like it's 90 days... Again, was it a light positive or a strong positive? Gloria On Jul 11, 2005, at 5:42 PM, Brenda K. Smith wrote: Hi All.. I have a friend who's mother in Oregon rescued a little boy kitten who is about 6 weeks old now. Last week he tested positive for felv on the in office test. I don't know if it was the Snap or Elisa. The lady, Margaret, said they also sent out a sample to be tested at a lab. I believe it was the IFA. She found out today that it is also positive. I asked if they reported that it was replicating in his bone marrow and she asked the vet's office. The person said they thought that in order for it to be positive on the IFA that it would indicate it was replicating in the bone marrow. Is that true? When Margaret's daughter called to ask advice, I told her that a kitten may test positive from the mother cat's antibodies and that the kitten could possibly throw off the virus with good care, human grade food, stress level kept down and Interferon if the kitten is old enough to take it. I recommended Wellness kitten food and Margaret purchased both dry and canned Wellness. Margaret's vet upon seeing the positive test recommended euthanasia immediately. Margaret said absolutely not! She said they had already fallen in love with him and he was energetic showing no signs of illness. I know this lady very well having taught her and her daughter almost 15 years ago how to bottle raise 5 orphan kittens. She will do whatever is necessary to keep this kitten healthy and loved. Here are the questions for which I need answers: 1) Can a 6 week old kitten be on Interferon? I recommended the newest protocol (which I use) of daily Interferon. I use 1 ml daily for my adult cats. What would the dose be for a 2-3 lb. (I think) kitten? 2) If the kitten is positive with the IFA and/or is replicating in his bone marrow, will he remain persistently positive or can he throw if off? 3) Also, if replicating in bone marrow if/when should he be tested again? 4) What other supplements would be recommended? Vit C? What dose for a kitten? L-Lysine? What dose for kitten? If any of you have any other recommendations, please feel free to mention them. I will be calling Margaret tonight or tomorrow to read some of your answers. I will also be printing them out and mailing them to her. Margaret is in her early 70's and I don't know whether she has a computer. I really appreciate any advice you all might have for this cat/ kitten loving lady. All of my experience with felv+ with my cats have been as adults. I have never had a tiny positive kitten. I know I could go to the archives, but I still have dial up and limited internet time so I'm hoping you all don't mind repeating advice for Margaret. Thank you so much. -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http:// www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself. - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.8.10 - Release Date: 7/6/2005
Re: FIV+ Kitty
oops, the kitty is in Rochester, NY but I will take care of transport. Thanks!! --- Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amy You forgot to mention WHERE the kitty is located... On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Amy Wilkins wrote: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 05:38:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: FIV+ Kitty Just got a call from my vet about a female torti that she found at her barn that tested FIV+. She is willing to give me til the end of the day to see if we can find anybody that might be interested in taking her. She said she did fine on the car ride and is fine in the cage and will do ok in an indoor home. I'm getting married in a couple weeks and I have a very sick leuk positive at my home now so I just can't introduce this one into my home. Would anybody be willing to take her? She will spay her and worm her free of charge and I can transport her. She is an adult, possibly 3 or 4, don't know at this point. Amy Wilkins Woof Wagon www.woofwagon.com __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html Amy Wilkins Woof Wagon www.woofwagon.com Sell on Yahoo! Auctions no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: FIV+ Kitty
Are you in Rochester, NY? Gloria On Jul 12, 2005, at 7:38 AM, Amy Wilkins wrote: Just got a call from my vet about a female torti that she found at her barn that tested FIV+. She is willing to give me til the end of the day to see if we can find anybody that might be interested in taking her. She said she did fine on the car ride and is fine in the cage and will do ok in an indoor home. I'm getting married in a couple weeks and I have a very sick leuk positive at my home now so I just can't introduce this one into my home. Would anybody be willing to take her? She will spay her and worm her free of charge and I can transport her. She is an adult, possibly 3 or 4, don't know at this point. Amy Wilkins Woof Wagon www.woofwagon.com
RE: Alum foil
Had the same experience trying to keep them off a new couch (silly me!)it was so much fun picking up shreds of aluminum foil all over the apt for weeks. Ultimately, got a cover for the couch. As for peeing, I have one who will periodically start upnot UTIsshe is on Clonicalm it really seems to work for her (knock on wood) Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Alum foil I tried this once. For maybe 2 days they were afraid of the foil. Then they played with the foil, tore it into bits, and peed in the area. You might have better luck though! It's always worth a try. t Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The noise of their pee on the foil might tend to foil the act. My house would be well decorated, but it is definitely an interesting thought. Del - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie I did just look up Rodent ulcer and I am pretty sure that is what she has.it seems to have gotten a little worse but only slightly, the vet will be here next Tuesday, I am calling her tomorrow to see if she can send me something or tell me how to make Candy feel better. Thanks for you insight By the by regarding urinating problems, I read putting aluminum foil is the trouble spots might help deter marking. Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunny James had a swollen upper lip on one side ... rodent ulcer ... it disappeared on its own. At the time I could not remember what I had read about it and asked in this group because I, too, was concerned about it being contagious ... it is not. Usually from food allergies. Since Sunny James' fat lip did not reoccur, I wondered if it had been an allergic reaction to an insect bite. Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: Bottom Lip/Cherie I seem to recall someone on the list a few years ago having kitty that had this on their lips. Forgive I can't remember who it was for the life of me. In a message dated 7/11/2005 2:25:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our group has had one kitty with a rodent ulcer on the upper lip. The vet put him on steroids. Not considered contagious. Gloria On Jul 11, 2005, at 1:20 PM, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: 1) I have a slight problem, my Himmie Candy has a sore on her bottom lip, that I can not identify, any thoughts? She is a negative to FeLV and I have a vet coming out next week, I am just worried that it could spread to the others. 2) I have to join the pee club I seem to have someone, not sure who have little accidents in two corners of the house, any thoughts how to determine which one it is...I only have one male but it is not vertical spraying and it is not alot... Any help would be appreciated ;-)) Cherie Terrie Mohr TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Owner/Driver Check sites for available Siameses for adoption! http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue Click Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/join http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html Petfinder.com Adopt a Homeless Pet! http://www.petfinder.com/ http://www.orecatay.com/ http://www.awca.net/index.htm http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ http://www.meezer.com/ http://thesiamesestore.com/ http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.html Southern CA. Siamese Rescue http://cs.siameserescue.org/ Northern CA. Siamese Rescue http://cn.siameserescue.org/ http://co.siameserescue.org/ http://va.siameserescue.org/ https://www.paypal.com/ Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Alum foil
Well so far so good, I am looking for Scotch Gaurd and things to deter them. Thanks Cheriecatatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried this once. For maybe 2 days they were afraid of the foil. Then they played with the foil, tore it into bits, and peed in the area. You might have better luck though! It's always worth a try. tDel Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The noise of their pee on the foil might tend to foil the act. My house would be well decorated, but it is definitely an interesting thought. Del - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie I did just look up Rodent ulcer and I am pretty sure that is what she has.it seems to have gotten a little worse but only slightly, the vet will be here next Tuesday, I am calling her tomorrow to see if she can send me something or tell me how to make Candy feel better. Thanks for you insight By the by regarding urinating problems, I read putting aluminum foil is the trouble spots might help deter marking.Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunny James had a swollen upper lip on one side ... rodent ulcer ... it disappeared on its own. At the time I could not remember what I had read about it and asked in this group because I, too, was concerned about it being contagious ... it is not. Usually from food allergies. Since Sunny James' fat lip did not reoccur, I wondered if it had been an allergic reaction to an insect bite. Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: Bottom Lip/Cherie I seem to recall someone on the list a few years ago having kitty that had this on their lips. Forgive I can't remember who it was for the life of me. In a message dated 7/11/2005 2:25:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our group has had one kitty with a rodent ulcer on the upper lip. The vet put him on steroids. Not considered contagious.GloriaOn Jul 11, 2005, at 1:20 PM, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: 1) I have a slight problem, my Himmie Candy has a sore on her bottom lip, that I can not identify, any thoughts? She is a negative to FeLV and I have a vet coming out next week, I am just worried that it could spread to the others. 2) I have to join the "pee club" I seem to have someone, not sure who have little accidents in two corners of the house, any thoughts how to determine which one it is...I only have one male but it is not vertical spraying and it is not alot... Any help would be appreciated ;-)) Cherie Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescueClick Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/joinhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlSouthern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cs.siameserescue.org/Northern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cn.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/https://www.paypal.com/ Have a purrfect day Cherie Have a purrfect day Cherie
RE: Alum foil
I am having a hard time, determining who is doing it.Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had the same experience trying to keep them off a new couch (silly me!)it was so much fun picking up shreds of aluminum foil all over the apt for weeks. Ultimately, got a cover for the couch . As for peeing, I have one who will periodically start upnot UTIsshe is on Clonicalm it really seems to work for her (knock on wood) Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:30 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Alum foil I tried this once. For maybe 2 days they were afraid of the foil. Then they played with the foil, tore it into bits, and peed in the area. You might have better luck though! It's always worth a try. tDel Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The noise of their pee on the foil might tend to foil the act. My house would be well decorated, but it is definitely an interesting thought. Del - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie I did just look up Rodent ulcer and I am pretty sure that is what she has.it seems to have gotten a little worse but only slightly, the vet will be here next Tuesday, I am calling her tomorrow to see if she can send me something or tell me how to make Candy feel better. Thanks for you insight By the by regarding urinating problems, I read putting aluminum foil is the trouble spots might help deter marking.Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunny James had a swollen upper lip on one side ... rodent ulcer ... it disappeared on its own. At the time I could not remember what I had read about it and asked in this group because I, too, was concerned about it being contagious ... it is not. Usually from food allergies. Since Sunny James' fat lip did not reoccur, I wondered if it had been an allergic reaction to an insect bite. Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: Bottom Lip/Cherie I seem to recall someone on the list a few years ago having kitty that had this on their lips. Forgive I can't remember who it was for the life of me. In a message dated 7/11/2005 2:25:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our group has had one kitty with a rodent ulcer on the upper lip. The vet put him on steroids. Not considered contagious.GloriaOn Jul 11, 2005, at 1:20 PM, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: 1) I have a slight problem, my Himmie Candy has a sore on her bottom lip, that I can not identify, any thoughts? She is a negative to FeLV and I have a vet coming out next week, I am just worried that it could spread to the others. 2) I have to join the "pee club" I seem to have someone, not sure who have little accidents in two corners of the house, any thoughts how to determine which one it is...I only have one male but it is not vertical spraying and it is not alot... Any help would be appreciated ;-)) Cherie Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescueClick Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/joinhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlSouthern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cs.siameserescue.org/Northern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cn.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/https://www.paypal.com/ Have a purrfect day Cherie Have a purrfect day Cherie
RE: Alum foil
Has anyone heard about this kind of behavior when the females are in heat?Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had the same experience trying to keep them off a new couch (silly me!)it was so much fun picking up shreds of aluminum foil all over the apt for weeks. Ultimately, got a cover for the couch . As for peeing, I have one who will periodically start upnot UTIsshe is on Clonicalm it really seems to work for her (knock on wood) Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:30 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Alum foil I tried this once. For maybe 2 days they were afraid of the foil. Then they played with the foil, tore it into bits, and peed in the area. You might have better luck though! It's always worth a try. tDel Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The noise of their pee on the foil might tend to foil the act. My house would be well decorated, but it is definitely an interesting thought. Del - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie I did just look up Rodent ulcer and I am pretty sure that is what she has.it seems to have gotten a little worse but only slightly, the vet will be here next Tuesday, I am calling her tomorrow to see if she can send me something or tell me how to make Candy feel better. Thanks for you insight By the by regarding urinating problems, I read putting aluminum foil is the trouble spots might help deter marking.Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunny James had a swollen upper lip on one side ... rodent ulcer ... it disappeared on its own. At the time I could not remember what I had read about it and asked in this group because I, too, was concerned about it being contagious ... it is not. Usually from food allergies. Since Sunny James' fat lip did not reoccur, I wondered if it had been an allergic reaction to an insect bite. Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: Bottom Lip/Cherie I seem to recall someone on the list a few years ago having kitty that had this on their lips. Forgive I can't remember who it was for the life of me. In a message dated 7/11/2005 2:25:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our group has had one kitty with a rodent ulcer on the upper lip. The vet put him on steroids. Not considered contagious.GloriaOn Jul 11, 2005, at 1:20 PM, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: 1) I have a slight problem, my Himmie Candy has a sore on her bottom lip, that I can not identify, any thoughts? She is a negative to FeLV and I have a vet coming out next week, I am just worried that it could spread to the others. 2) I have to join the "pee club" I seem to have someone, not sure who have little accidents in two corners of the house, any thoughts how to determine which one it is...I only have one male but it is not vertical spraying and it is not alot... Any help would be appreciated ;-)) Cherie Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescueClick Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/joinhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlSouthern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cs.siameserescue.org/Northern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cn.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/https://www.paypal.com/ Have a purrfect day Cherie Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: FIV+ Kitty
Yes, I'm in Rochester, NY as well. --- Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you in Rochester, NY? Gloria On Jul 12, 2005, at 7:38 AM, Amy Wilkins wrote: Just got a call from my vet about a female torti that she found at her barn that tested FIV+. She is willing to give me til the end of the day to see if we can find anybody that might be interested in taking her. She said she did fine on the car ride and is fine in the cage and will do ok in an indoor home. I'm getting married in a couple weeks and I have a very sick leuk positive at my home now so I just can't introduce this one into my home. Would anybody be willing to take her? She will spay her and worm her free of charge and I can transport her. She is an adult, possibly 3 or 4, don't know at this point. Amy Wilkins Woof Wagon www.woofwagon.com Amy Wilkins Woof Wagon www.woofwagon.com Sell on Yahoo! Auctions no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: RE: Alum foil-females in heat
Our Lola went into heat a few days before we had her spayed and proceeded to mark most of the cat beds! But she would just squat and let out a few drops of urine...never completely released the contents of her bladder... :) But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:27 am Subject: RE: Alum foil Has anyone heard about this kind of behavior when the females are in heat? Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had the same experience trying to keep them off a new couch (silly me!)?it was so much fun picking up shreds of aluminum foil all over the apt for weeks. Ultimately, got a cover for the couch?. As for peeing, I have one who will periodically start up?not UTI?s?she is on Clonicalm it really seems to work for her? (knock on wood) Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Felvtalk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Alum foil I tried this once. For maybe 2 days they were afraid of the foil. Then they played with the foil, tore it into bits, and peed in the area. You might have better luck though! It's always worth a try. t Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The noise of their pee on the foil might tend to foil the act. My house would be well decorated, but it is definitely an interesting thought. Del - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie I did just look up Rodent ulcer and I am pretty sure that is what she has.it seems to have gotten a little worse but only slightly, the vet will be here next Tuesday, I am calling her tomorrow to see if she can send me something or tell me how to make Candy feel better. Thanks for you insight By the by regarding urinating problems, I read putting aluminum foil is the trouble spots might help deter marking. Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunny James had a swollen upper lip on one side ... rodent ulcer ... it disappeared on its own. At the time I could not remember what I had read about it and asked in this group because I, too, was concerned about it being contagious ... it is not. Usually from food allergies. Since Sunny James' fat lip did not reoccur, I wondered if it had been an allergic reaction to an insect bite. Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: Bottom Lip/Cherie I seem to recall someone on the list a few years ago having kitty that had this on their lips. Forgive I can't remember who it was for the life of me. In a message dated 7/11/2005 2:25:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our group has had one kitty with a rodent ulcer on the upper lip. The vet put him on steroids. Not considered contagious. Gloria On Jul 11, 2005, at 1:20 PM, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: 1) I have a slight problem, my Himmie Candy has a sore on her bottom lip, that I can not identify, any thoughts? She is a negative to FeLV and I have a vet coming out next week, I am just worried that it could spread to the others. 2) I have to join the pee club I seem to have someone, not sure who have little accidents in two corners of the house, any thoughts how to determine which one it is...I only have one male but it is not vertical spraying and it is not alot... Any help would be appreciated ;-)) Cherie Terrie Mohr TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Owner/Driver Check sites for available Siameses for adoption! http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue Click Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/join http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html Petfinder.com Adopt a Homeless Pet! http://www.petfinder.com/ http://www.orecatay.com/ http://www.awca.net/index.htm
Re: RE: Alum foil-females in heat
That sounds like what is happening here, I was told I can not get her fixed while she is in heat.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our Lola went into heat a few days before we had her spayed andproceeded to "mark" most of the cat beds! But she would just squat andlet out a few drops of urine...never completely released the contents ofher bladder... :)"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief DanGeorge- Original Message -From: Cherie A Gabbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:27 amSubject: RE: Alum foil Has anyone heard about this kind of behavior when the females are in heat? Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Had the same experience trying to keep them off a new couch (silly me!)?it was so much fun picking up shreds of aluminum foil all over the apt for weeks. Ultimately, got a cover for the couch?. As for peeing, I have one who will periodically start up?not UTI?s?she is on Clonicalm it really seems to work for her? (knock on wood)Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Felvtalk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Alum foilI tried this once. For maybe 2 days they were afraid of the foil. Then they played with the foil, tore it into bits, and peed in the area. You might have better luck though! It's always worth a try. t Del Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: The noise of their pee on the foil might tend to foil the act. My house would be well decorated, but it is definitely an interesting thought. Del - Original Message -From: Cherie A GabbertTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie I did just look up Rodent ulcer and I am pretty sure that is what she has.it seems to have gotten a little worse but only slightly, the vet will be here next Tuesday, I am calling her tomorrow to see if she can send me something or tell me how to make Candy feel better. Thanks for you insight By the by regarding urinating problems, I read putting aluminum foil is the trouble spots might help deter marking. Del Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Sunny James had a swollen upper lip on one side ... rodent ulcer ... it disappeared on its own. At the time I could not remember what I had read about it and asked in this group because I, too, was concerned about it being contagious ... it is not. Usually from food allergies. Since Sunny James' fat lip did not reoccur, I wondered if it had been an allergic reaction to an insect bite. Del - Original Message -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: Bottom Lip/Cherie I seem to recall someone on the list a few years ago having kitty that had this on their lips. Forgive I can't remember who it was for the life of me. In a message dated 7/11/2005 2:25:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our group has had one kitty with a rodent ulcer on the upper lip. The vet put him on steroids. Not considered contagious. Gloria On Jul 11, 2005, at 1:20 PM, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: 1) I have a slight problem, my Himmie Candy has a sore on her bottomlip, that I can not identify, any thoughts? She is a negative to FeLV and I have a vet coming out next week, I am just worried that it could spread to the others. 2) I have to join the "pee club" I seem to have someone, not sure who have little accidents in two corners of the house, any thoughts how to determine which one it is...I only have one male but it is notvertical spraying and it is not alot... Any help would be appreciated ;-)) Cherie Terrie Mohr TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Owner/Driver Check sites for available Siameses for adoption! http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue Click Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/join http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html Petfinder.com Adopt a Homeless Pet! http://www.petfinder.com/ http://www.orecatay.com/ http://www.awca.net/index.htm http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ http://www.meezer.com/ http://thesiamesestore.com/
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
You BOUGHT a $450 area rug?!!!??? (Oo) You must not be as much of a crazy cat lady as some of the rest of us. We don't even have cheap $6 bath mats on the floor. I have one, but I keep it thrown up over the shower bar, and only use it during showers, as soon as I am dry, I pick it up and throw it back up out of "cat pee reach". I forgot to put it up yesterday, and now I have to wash it today, it's in the "cat pee" hamper now. I wouldn't suggest replacing the rug it will just be ruined again.Rugs are areal waste of money if you have cats. I have a "rug" at the door entrance. It's a2 foot long cut section of heavy-dutyrubber backed high traffic carpet runner (the industrial stuff you see at businesses in the aisles). If they pee on it, the pee stays on it, and doesn't soak through to the carpet under it. I take it to the car wash down the road, pour a gallon of undiluted vinegar on it, let it soak for 5 minutes, and then spray it with the high pressure car soap (it's hot), then rinse it with the high pressure rinse. I got it at a reducedprice at the hardware store, because it was a remnant, cost me $12 ($6 a foot). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~yeah, I used quite a bit, they seem to hit two corners only, regretfully they ruined a $450 area rug by the front door, that will now need to be replaced ;-(( No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: RE: Alum foil-females in heat
Yeah, I had heard that as well...I think there's some debate about the issue which, I believe, comes down to how confident the surgeon is with performing a spay on a female in heat...perhaps something to do with blood vessels (associated with the uterus/ovaries) being enlarged and the risk associated with nicking one of those vessels, or something to that effect...I'm not entirely sure. But Lola was certainly in heat, and I even mentioned this to the vet the day of the surgery having heard that a cat in heat shouldn't be spayed...but my vet didn't even bat an eye...and Lola came through with flying colors! :) But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:54 am Subject: Re: RE: Alum foil-females in heat That sounds like what is happening here, I was told I can not get her fixed while she is in heat. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Our Lola went into heat a few days before we had her spayed and proceeded to mark most of the cat beds! But she would just squat and let out a few drops of urine...never completely released the contents of her bladder... :)
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
I already replaced it an hour ago, I cleaned the floor and the wall, with 409, Oxy clean for pet stains and odors then I sprayed Zero Odor, then lastly I sprayed Feliway...I am keeping my fingers crossed...I did get the rug on sale foraround$305.00 yeah ;-))[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You BOUGHT a $450 area rug?!!!??? (Oo) You must not be as much of a crazy cat lady as some of the rest of us. We don't even have cheap $6 bath mats on the floor. I have one, but I keep it thrown up over the shower bar, and only use it during showers, as soon as I am dry, I pick it up and throw it back up out of "cat pee reach". I forgot to put it up yesterday, and now I have to wash it today, it's in the "cat pee" hamper now. I wouldn't suggest replacing the rug it will just be ruined again.Rugs are areal waste of money if you have cats. I have a "rug" at the door entrance. It's a2 foot long cut section of heavy-dutyrubber backed high traffic carpet runner (the industrial stuff you see at businesses in the aisles). If they pee on it, the pee stays on it, and doesn't soak through to the carpet under it. I take it to the car wash down the road, pour a gallon of undiluted vinegar on it, let it soak for 5 minutes, and then spray it with the high pressure car soap (it's hot), then rinse it with the high pressure rinse. I got it at a reducedprice at the hardware store, because it was a remnant, cost me $12 ($6 a foot). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~yeah, I used quite a bit, they seem to hit two corners only, regretfully they ruined a $450 area rug by the front door, that will now need to be replaced ;-((No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet in the house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (I highly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively for Lowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles and hour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you can pick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to pee on and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: if it can't be ruined, we don't buy it and we can't have anything nice! :) But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George You BOUGHT a $450 area rug?!!!??? (Oo) You must not be as much of a crazy cat lady as some of the rest of us. We don't even have cheap $6 bath mats on the floor. I have one, but I keep it thrown up over the shower bar, and only use it during showers, as soon as I am dry, I pick it up and throw it back up out of "cat pee reach". I forgot to put it up yesterday, and now I have to wash it today, it's in the "cat pee" hamper now. I wouldn't suggest replacing the rug it will just be ruined again.Rugs are areal waste of money if you have cats. I have a "rug" at the door entrance. It's a2 foot long cut section of heavy-dutyrubber backed high traffic carpet runner (the industrial stuff you see at businesses in the aisles). If they pee on it, the pee stays on it, and doesn't soak through to the carpet under it. I take it to the car wash down the road, pour a gallon of undiluted vinegar on it, let it soak for 5 minutes, and then spray it with the high pressure car soap (it's hot), then rinse it with the high pressure rinse. I got it at a reducedprice at the hardware store, because it was a remnant, cost me $12 ($6 a foot). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~yeah, I used quite a bit, they seem to hit two corners only, regretfully they ruined a $450 area rug by the front door, that will now need to be replaced ;-(( No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
my ideal would be to have a concrete floor, radiant heating, with a DRAIN in the middle of said floor to make washing so much easier. would artfully stencil the floor to create room divisions. (you know, oval flower border around the dining room table, faux marble for the bathroom.)-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: FIV+ Kitty
I posted her to the FIV lists. Hopefully you will get an email a phone number might be a good idea, since this is a one day only rescue. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: RE: Alum foil-females in heat
I will call other vets and see what the general concensus is...thanks ;-))[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I had heard that as well...I think there's some debate about theissue which, I believe, comes down to how confident the surgeon is withperforming a spay on a female in heat...perhaps something to do withblood vessels (associated with the uterus/ovaries) being enlarged andthe risk associated with nicking one of those vessels, or something tothat effect...I'm not entirely sure. But Lola was certainly in heat,and I even mentioned this to the vet the day of the surgery having heardthat a cat in heat shouldn't be spayed...but my vet didn't even bat aneye...and Lola came through with flying colors! :)"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief DanGeorge- Original Message -From: Cherie A Gabbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:54 amSubject: Re: RE: Alum foil-females in heat That sounds like what is happening here, I was told I can not get her fixed while she is in heat. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Our Lola went into heat a few days before we had her spayed and proceeded to "mark" most of the cat beds! But she would just squat and let out a few drops of urine...never completely released the contents of her bladder... :)Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
I am getting the idea slowly but surely, I have leather kitchen chairs that of course are ripped beyond repairthe door jams in the house are ripped beyond repair, (even though I do try) even the new rug I just put down is already snaggedclawing doea not bother me PEE bothers me big time.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet inthe house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (Ihighly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively forLowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles andhour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you canpick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to peeon and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: "if itcan't be ruined, we don't buy it" and "we can't have anything nice!" :)"But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will beunique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbecome responsible, forever, for what you have tamed..." --Antoine deSaint-Exupéry"If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knoweach other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatyou do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys." --Chief DanGeorge You BOUGHT a $450 area rug?!!!??? (Oo) You must not be as much of a crazy cat lady as some of the rest of us. We don't even have cheap $6 bath mats on the floor. I have one, but I keep it thrown up over the shower bar, and only use it during showers, as soon as I am dry, I pick it up and throw it back up out of "cat pee reach". I forgot to put it up yesterday, and now I have to wash it today, it's in the "cat pee" hamper now. I wouldn't suggest replacing the rug it will just be ruined again.Rugs are areal waste of money if you have cats. I have a "rug" at the door entrance. It's a2 foot long cut section of heavy-dutyrubber backed high traffic carpet runner (the industrial stuff you see at businesses in the aisles). If they pee on it, the pee stays on it, and doesn't soak through to the carpet under it. I take it to the car wash down the road, pour a gallon of undiluted vinegar on it, let it soak for 5 minutes, and then spray it with the high pressure car soap (it's hot), then rinse it with the high pressure rinse. I got it at a reducedprice at the hardware store, because it was a remnant, cost me $12 ($6 a foot). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~yeah, I used quite a bit, they seem to hit two corners only, regretfully they ruined a $450 area rug by the front door, that will now need to be replaced ;-((No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
Creates a funny pitcure ;-))TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my ideal would be to have a concrete floor, radiant heating, with a DRAIN in the middle of said floor to make washing so much easier. would artfully stencil the floor to create room divisions. (you know, oval flower border around the dining room table, faux marble for the bathroom.)-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
i just recently adopted out a darling little maine coon foster--he's an absolute sweetheart, but like many, he was allowed to play with teeth and claws as a tiny one and doesn't realize he's a BIG cat now he went to a home with a $3000 couch, and fancy wool rugs! (oh, my, let me tell you, that was NOT what he lived with here fur sure!).. hee hee... so he is now happily wearing his soft paws to protect his new home!-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
I have to remind ya'll about 2 products. Anti-Icky Poo (honest!) - my vet has it but I haven't had to use it yet: http://www.antiickypoo.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.displaycategory_ID=12OVRAW=anti-icky%20pooOVKEY=anti%20icky%20pooOVMTC=standard Liqui-Zyme - my vet carries it, had stopped for a while, but started again. One of them used it to get INTACT male spray out of a suitcase. Worked perfectly. I LOVE this product! United Laboratories website is www.beearthsmart.com here's a link to the Material Safety Data Sheet for Liqui-Zyme: http://www.beearthsmart.com/msdslist/pdf/455msds.pdf#search='liquizyme'Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already replaced it an hour ago, I cleaned the floor and the wall, with 409, Oxy clean for pet stains and odors then I sprayed Zero Odor, then lastly I sprayed Feliway...I am keeping my fingers crossed...I did get the rug on sale foraround$305.00 yeah ;-))[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You BOUGHT a $450 area rug?!!!??? (Oo) You must not be as much of a crazy cat lady as some of the rest of us. We don't even have cheap $6 bath mats on the floor. I have one, but I keep it thrown up over the shower bar, and only use it during showers, as soon as I am dry, I pick it up and throw it back up out of "cat pee reach". I forgot to put it up yesterday, and now I have to wash it today, it's in the "cat pee" hamper now. I wouldn't suggest replacing the rug it will just be ruined again.Rugs are areal waste of money if you have cats. I have a "rug" at the door entrance. It's a2 foot long cut section of heavy-dutyrubber backed high traffic carpet runner (the industrial stuff you see at businesses in the aisles). If they pee on it, the pee stays on it, and doesn't soak through to the carpet under it. I take it to the car wash down the road, pour a gallon of undiluted vinegar on it, let it soak for 5 minutes, and then spray it with the high pressure car soap (it's hot), then rinse it with the high pressure rinse. I got it at a reducedprice at the hardware store, because it was a remnant, cost me $12 ($6 a foot). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~yeah, I used quite a bit, they seem to hit two corners only, regretfully they ruined a $450 area rug by the front door, that will now need to be replaced ;-((No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005 Have a purrfect day Cherie Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items.
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
As many of us probally have ruined furniture...it is not even worth getting the soft pawsmy cats are happy as clams to get their claws in any new piece I get ;-))TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just recently adopted out a darling little maine coon foster--he's an absolute sweetheart, but like many, he was allowed to play with teeth and claws as a tiny one and doesn't realize he's a BIG cat nowhe went to a home with a $3000 couch, and fancy wool rugs! (oh, my, let me tell you, that was NOT what he lived with here fur sure!).. hee hee... so he is now happily wearing his soft paws to protect his new home!-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892 Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
Ok, I ordered the Anti-Icky Poo and the Liqui-Zyme from the internet.my Vet will not fix her, until she is over being in heat...how long is this going to last.I hope all this crap worksBarb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to remind ya'll about 2 products. Anti-Icky Poo (honest!) - my vet has it but I haven't had to use it yet: http://www.antiickypoo.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.displaycategory_ID=12OVRAW=anti-icky%20pooOVKEY=anti%20icky%20pooOVMTC=standard Liqui-Zyme - my vet carries it, had stopped for a while, but started again. One of them used it to get INTACT male spray out of a suitcase. Worked perfectly. I LOVE this product! United Laboratories website is www.beearthsmart.com here's a link to the Material Safety Data Sheet for Liqui-Zyme: http://www.beearthsmart.com/msdslist/pdf/455msds.pdf#search='liquizyme'Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already replaced it an hour ago, I cleaned the floor and the wall, with 409, Oxy clean for pet stains and odors then I sprayed Zero Odor, then lastly I sprayed Feliway...I am keeping my fingers crossed...I did get the rug on sale foraround$305.00 yeah ;-))[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You BOUGHT a $450 area rug?!!!??? (Oo) You must not be as much of a crazy cat lady as some of the rest of us. We don't even have cheap $6 bath mats on the floor. I have one, but I keep it thrown up over the shower bar, and only use it during showers, as soon as I am dry, I pick it up and throw it back up out of "cat pee reach". I forgot to put it up yesterday, and now I have to wash it today, it's in the "cat pee" hamper now. I wouldn't suggest replacing the rug it will just be ruined again.Rugs are areal waste of money if you have cats. I have a "rug" at the door entrance. It's a2 foot long cut section of heavy-dutyrubber backed high traffic carpet runner (the industrial stuff you see at businesses in the aisles). If they pee on it, the pee stays on it, and doesn't soak through to the carpet under it. I take it to the car wash down the road, pour a gallon of undiluted vinegar on it, let it soak for 5 minutes, and then spray it with the high pressure car soap (it's hot), then rinse it with the high pressure rinse. I got it at a reducedprice at the hardware store, because it was a remnant, cost me $12 ($6 a foot). Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~yeah, I used quite a bit, they seem to hit two corners only, regretfully they ruined a $450 area rug by the front door, that will now need to be replaced ;-((No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005 Have a purrfect day Cherie Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items.Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
Oh, the first thing I did when I moved into this apartment was peel back all the carpeting and see if there was any usable floor underneath. Luckily, in the bedroom there was decent wood floor, so I was able to toss the carpet in that room. The office has a very thin indoor/outdoor type of carpet with no padding overindustrial tile, and the cats don't seem to like to pee on it (if they do, I'll take the carpet out). The livingroom is an issue, under it, is plain plywood, and it has, literally, about 5000 nails all across the entire floor. it would LOOK HORRIBLE if I pulled up the carpet. Since I rent, I'm not going to sink a ton of money into adding nice flooring myself, so we just deal with spots as they occur in there. That's why I paid a deposit :) Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet inthe house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (Ihighly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively forLowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles andhour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you canpick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to peeon and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: "if itcan't be ruined, we don't buy it" and "we can't have anything nice!" :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
OT- 3 older kitties in SF area need a home!!!
The owner is leaving the country in about 2 weeks and is willing to pay transportation to wherever they end up. He's been trying really hard to find them homes, but has been coming up against a lot of hate and holier-than-thou attitudes http://forums.cathobbyist.com/view.php?id=61130,61130 and some info about the fab trio: http://www.mondowendell.com/mtb.html MC ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has more contact information for the owner and if no closer home can be found will take them (cats in San Francisco, MC in Michigan), but as she has limited space and does fostering, I don't know how well 3 additional adults would work with her 10+ permanent residents (plus about a gazillion kittens - some ready to adopt first week of August) So those of you in the Pacific Northwest, ask around, use your connections to help these guys!! The only two I know of for sure are Belinda and Terrie, butpull your strings gang! Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - No fees. Bid on great items.
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
we can't have anything nice! sure you can--isn't that what the CATS are for? i have AUTHENTIC persian rugs, gleefully shed daily in copious quantities, and absolutely EVERYTHING goes with calico, and who can beat basic black, or tuxedo? with a little red-and-white tossed in for contrast? someone reminded me that our cats add, ambience--which the decorating firms charge highly for! -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
Clawing used to be an issue for me, they still shred the couch, but not the door frames anymore. I put long strips of regular clear packaging tape over all the door frames in scratching reach, and they decided they didn't like the feel of it anymore, because it's slippery and they can't dig in like on the bare wood, plus if they try too hard, the tape comes off and usually sticks on them, and they are running through the house with tape stuck on their bodies, like they are being attacked by a pack of coyotes... absolutely scares the bejesus out of them! I also, a few years back, invested in a absolutely WONDERFUL cat tree, I HIGHLY recommend the company to everyone now, my cats have SHREDDED this thing, and it still looks good, after 3 years and 5 cats. It was a bit pricey though http://www.4yourcat.com/pussicat/index.php I have the Mont Blanc tree, with the optional large base, plus I've added on a few extra parts over the years, which is what is so cool about these, they are completely modular, and you can re-arrange them and add on endlessly. I can send anyone who is interested in seeing my current set up a picture in private emails... my pics are too big to send via the list. If you wanna see it (and my livingroom) send me a private email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I am getting the idea slowly but surely, I have leather kitchen chairs that of course are ripped beyond repairthe door jams in the house are ripped beyond repair, (even though I do try) even the new rug I just put down is already snaggedclawing does not bother me PEE bothers me big time. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
here here you said it.TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "we can't have anything nice!" sure you can--isn't that what the CATS are for? i have AUTHENTICpersian rugs, gleefully shed daily in copious quantities, andabsolutely EVERYTHING goes with calico, and who can beat basic black,or tuxedo? with a little red-and-white tossed in for contrast?someone reminded me that our cats add, "ambience"--which thedecorating firms charge highly for!-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
This conversation reminds meJenn stopped by my house the other day and I didn't think anything of it at the time but I am sure she must have noticed the litter box on top of the dresser in the window... For some reason my cat with both hind legs crippled doesn't like to use a litter box on the floor...I have found that often times it easier to just put a litter box where they choose to go rather than have them go all around trying to find the place they are comfortable.Of coarse this box that's right up in plain sight for any humans coming by becomes everybody favorite box...but on the other hand its the easiest one to scoop too Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, the first thing I did when I moved into this apartment was peel back all the carpeting and see if there was any usable floor underneath. Luckily, in the bedroom there was decent wood floor, so I was able to toss the carpet in that room. The office has a very thin indoor/outdoor type of carpet with no padding overindustrial tile, and the cats don't seem to like to pee on it (if they do, I'll take the carpet out). The livingroom is an issue, under it, is plain plywood, and it has, literally, about 5000 nails all across the entire floor. it would LOOK HORRIBLE if I pulled up the carpet. Since I rent, I'm not going to sink a ton of money into adding nice flooring myself, so we just deal with spots as they occur in there. That's why I paid a deposit :) Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet in the house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (I highly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively for Lowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles and hour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you can pick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to pee on and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: "if it can't be ruined, we don't buy it" and "we can't have anything nice!" :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
and your point is? hee hee On 7/12/05, Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This conversation reminds meJenn stopped by my house the other day and I didn't think anything of it at the time but I am sure she must have noticed the litter box on top of the dresser in the window... For some reason my cat with both hind legs crippled doesn't like to use a litter box on the floor...I have found that often times it easier to just put a litter box where they choose to go rather than have them go all around trying to find the place they are comfortable.Of coarse this box that's right up in plain sight for any humans coming by becomes everybody favorite box...but on the other hand its the easiest one to scoop too Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, the first thing I did when I moved into this apartment was peel back all the carpeting and see if there was any usable floor underneath. Luckily, in the bedroom there was decent wood floor, so I was able to toss the carpet in that room. The office has a very thin indoor/outdoor type of carpet with no padding over industrial tile, and the cats don't seem to like to pee on it (if they do, I'll take the carpet out). The livingroom is an issue, under it, is plain plywood, and it has, literally, about 5000 nails all across the entire floor. it would LOOK HORRIBLE if I pulled up the carpet. Since I rent, I'm not going to sink a ton of money into adding nice flooring myself, so we just deal with spots as they occur in there. That's why I paid a deposit :) Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet in the house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (I highly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively for Lowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles and hour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you can pick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to pee on and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: if it can't be ruined, we don't buy it and we can't have anything nice! :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005 -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
TOO FUNNY ;-))Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This conversation reminds meJenn stopped by my house the other day and I didn't think anything of it at the time but I am sure she must have noticed the litter box on top of the dresser in the window...For some reason my cat with both hind legs crippled doesn't like to use a litter box on the floor...I have found that often times it easier to just put a litter box where they choose to go rather than have them go all around trying to find the place they are comfortable.Of coarse this box that's right up in plain sight for any humans coming by becomes everybody favorite box...but on the other hand its the easiest one to scoop tooTad[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, the first thing I did when I moved into this apartment was peel back all the carpeting and see if there was any usable floor underneath. Luckily, in the bedroom there was decent wood floor, so I was able to toss the carpet in that room. The office has a very thin indoor/outdoor type of carpet with no padding overindustrial tile, and the cats don't seem to like to pee on it (if they do, I'll take the carpet out). The livingroom is an issue, under it, is plain plywood, and it has, literally, about 5000 nails all across the entire floor. it would LOOK HORRIBLE if I pulled up the carpet. Since I rent, I'm not going to sink a ton of money into adding nice flooring myself, so we just deal with spots as they occur in there. That's why I paid a deposit :) Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet inthe house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (Ihighly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively forLowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles andhour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you canpick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to peeon and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: "if itcan't be ruined, we don't buy it" and "we can't have anything nice!" :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005 Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
Well...I was wondering if Jenn noticed it and didn't say anything...or like me didn't think anything of it Tad TenHouseCats wrote: and your point is? hee hee On 7/12/05, Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This conversation reminds meJenn stopped by my house the other day and I didn't think anything of it at the time but I am sure she must have noticed the litter box on top of the dresser in the window... For some reason my cat with both hind legs crippled doesn't like to use a litter box on the floor...I have found that often times it easier to just put a litter box where they choose to go rather than have them go all around trying to find the place they are comfortable.Of coarse this box that's right up in plain sight for any humans coming by becomes everybody favorite box...but on the other hand its the easiest one to scoop too Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, the first thing I did when I moved into this apartment was peel back all the carpeting and see if there was any usable floor underneath. Luckily, in the bedroom there was decent wood floor, so I was able to toss the carpet in that room. The office has a very thin indoor/outdoor type of carpet with no padding over industrial tile, and the cats don't seem to like to pee on it (if they do, I'll take the carpet out). The livingroom is an issue, under it, is plain plywood, and it has, literally, about 5000 nails all across the entire floor. it would LOOK HORRIBLE if I pulled up the carpet. Since I rent, I'm not going to sink a ton of money into adding nice flooring myself, so we just deal with spots as they occur in there. That's why I paid a deposit :) Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Hee, hee! I've even gone to the extent of removing all of the carpet in the house and replacing with ceramic tile/laminate wood flooring (I highly recommend the Armstrong's edition made exclusively for Lowe's...withstands spills and cat claws peeling out at 100 miles and hour)...and the rugs are the cheap berber/industrial rugs that you can pick up at Walmart for $30 (they don't seem to be as comfortable to pee on and withstand claw sharpening)...two mottos at our house: "if it can't be ruined, we don't buy it" and "we can't have anything nice!" :) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Dixie Louise
Transfer Factor (feline), Intrasound Powder, Vet Viralys, Macro Force, Fast Track (feline) are the supplements. She doesn't get them all the time. It depends on what I can get into her. She is eating EVO, Fancy Feast, canned salmon etc (again, depending on what works at the time). She is totally adorable. - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Dixie Louise Hi, It sounds like your doing very good, boosting her immune system, and maybe feeding a good quality food like Wellness or something similar (something without by-products and grains). Keep stress down and think positive. What immune boosters is the vet giving her? -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Dixie Louise
I've taken killing her off the table and am hoping she can fight it off. If she tests positive she will be retested. Right now she is living in a room in the garage where she seems to be comfortable. She has toys, hiding places etc and can get to a window to look out. - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Dixie Louise PS. It can take up to 3 months for a cat to fight off the virus (I've even known of a cat that took linger), so be patient and my motto think positive :) -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
That sounds great especially the drain in the middle of the floor. A couple years ago I spent 8,000.00 to tear up carpet and replace with top of the line wood laminate all through my house. One month later the seams starting lifting and now I have messed up floors. The manufacturer said the warranty does not cover cat urine. I need something I can clean with bleach and soap. Guess cement would be good.
Tad's Special Needs Cat was: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
You really should post a picture of her online, so everyone can see her.It is fascinating how well she copes with her legs deformed as they are. I would very much like to see pictures of your baby Tad. You may send them to me off list since this topic is an OT, but we currently have several babies with missing and/or deformed rear legs and are in the process of adopting another little one who has only 1/2 stubbs for legs. While the ones we have are doing fine (one has about 2/3 of her rear legs and no feet) I am a little concerned about the new baby coming who has only a small amount of leg and no feet. His current care giver says he is using a modified litter box and zipping around the house with his bonded litter mate doing regular kitten things. -- /mari (SpiritCat)Until there are none, adopt one.SpiritCat and the Mooseheart Mumpkeesof southeastern Texas[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
She has never known anything else...When I 1st noticed when she was a day old I worried that she would get pushed away at the milk bar...7 in the litter...But when you think about it front paws are more effective at pushing others out of her way...At he end of the 1st week she was the fattest one of all...Cats always land front paws 1st..She just puts a little more weight on them...She climbs up just like a jimnast...Gab with the front paws and pull herself up over...She can reach the desk chair seat from the floor and the top of the dresser from the seat...and she gets up on the perch on the climbing tree that was beside the litter box... People have asked if she could be fitted with dolly wheels...But she couldn't climb with those..She would be very unhappy Cats are wonderfully adaptable to their environment and she is the best proof Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I quite honestly did not even notice it, as the forth mentioned "crippled" cat was basically clobbering me with attention and throwing itself at me in an effort to get me to pet her... LOL... I was a bit preoccupied with trying to keep the crazy sweet thing from throwing herself off the headboard of your bed in a effort to be in my arms! I'm never met a cat so unaware of her own limitations! I know you SAID she can jump down and land OK, but I'm still going to be a bit skeptical on that issue... You really should post a picture of her online, so everyone can see her.It is fascinating how well she copes with her legs deformed as they are. I said I wasn't going to reply to this thread on the list again, because it's so off topic now LOL! You guys are making me break the rules! Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ Well...I was wondering if Jenn noticed it and didn't say anything...or like me didn't think anything of it Tad No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Tad's Special Needs Cat was: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
I have pictures of her but none that show her handicap or her in action...As Jenn said she is a big love bug and I have a lot of pictures of her sitting and posing for the camera...When she does anything its just like any cat...1..2 and its done...no time to grab the cameraIts was a long time before we even saw how she was able to get on the perch on the climbing tree...Its a big stretch but if she can reach it she can pull herself up on it... Tad Mari Kolbe wrote: You really should post a picture of her online, so everyone can see her.It is fascinating how well she copes with her legs deformed as they are. I would very much like to see pictures of your baby Tad. You may send them to me off list since this topic is an OT, but we currently have several babies with missing and/or deformed rear legs and are in the process of adopting another little one who has only 1/2" stubbs for legs. While the ones we have are doing fine (one has about 2/3 of her rear legs and no feet) I am a little concerned about the new baby coming who has only a small amount of leg and no feet. His current care giver says he is using a modified litter box and zipping around the house with his bonded litter mate doing regular kitten things. -- /mari (SpiritCat) Until there are none, adopt one. SpiritCat and the Mooseheart Mumpkees of southeastern Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [FivCats] New FIV Sanctuary
Hi, do you have any picture of your facility that you can send to us? I would love to see what it is going to look like. I am also cross-posting your message to another list group who might find this interesting. Hideyo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Katie Luensmann Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FivCats] New FIV Sanctuary Hello all my name is Katie and i am opening an FIV sanctuary in iowa. our building should be completed by the end of july or beginning of august. we plan to rescue cats with FIV, FeLK, and Diabetes. currently, i operate Kitties from Heaven, a no-kill, non profit feline rescue. We take in healthy cats of all ages from pretty much anywhere and find them new homes. our building will be specifically for special needs kitties, and each type of kitty will have their own room. we will have a cage free environment with plenty of places for kitties to climb and hide. we feed all of our kitties a hard food diet with vitamin suppliments, unless medical needs require otherwise. currently we have one FIV cat, two diabetics, and two FeLK cats here, and three FIV kitties waiting for transport. We believe we will be able to accept up to 12 of each type of cat, but won't know for sure until the building is constructed and we see just how much room there is. 12 will be the minimum number, though. our requirements for acceptance are as follows: 1) cats must be spayed/neutered (or come with a monetary donation for the surgery... $40) 2) Cats must be healthy (other than their initial diagnosis 3) Cats must be free of parasites 4) We ask for a small donation for each cat to help with future medical care. all donations will be kept for the cat with which they were recieved, and will not be put into a general fund. Please keep my information for future referance, and let me know if you have any questions. I look forward to hearing back from you. Thanks Katie SPONSORED LINKS Animal health insurance pet Biology Health product for pet Natural pet health Pet health Pet health care YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group FivCats on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: FIV+ Kitty
Thanks! I didn't put a phone number since I was at work all day and wouldn't be able to answer anyway. I got the vet to spay her today and she also pulled a couple teeth. She can hold her a couple more days since I told her I would definitely find somebody no matter what. Hopefully I get some response. Thanks again. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted her to the FIV lists. Hopefully you will get an email a phone number might be a good idea, since this is a one day only rescue. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address you can send them to, to help feed Bazil! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005 Amy Wilkins Woof Wagon www.woofwagon.com __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
You mean your cats don't eat scotch tape? A couple of mine love it. They take it off any boxes, wherever. Sancho chews on it ... eats it ... throws it up :) He goes nuts for styrofoam ... eats it, throws it up. Any soft plastic bags, same routine! Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs) Clawing used to be an issue for me, they still shred the couch, but not the door frames anymore. I put long strips of regular clear packaging tape over all the door frames in scratching reach, and they decided they didn't like the feel of it anymore, because it's slippery and they can't dig in like on the bare wood, plus if they try too hard, the tape comes off and usually sticks on them, and they are running through the house with tape stuck on their bodies, like they are being attacked by a pack of coyotes... absolutely scares the bejesus out of them! I also, a few years back, invested in a absolutely WONDERFUL cat tree, I HIGHLY recommend the company to everyone now, my cats have SHREDDED this thing, and it still looks good, after 3 years and 5 cats. It was a bit pricey though http://www.4yourcat.com/pussicat/index.php I have the Mont Blanc tree, with the optional large base, plus I've added on a few extra parts over the years, which is what is so cool about these, they are completely modular, and you can re-arrange them and add on endlessly. I can send anyone who is interested in seeing my current set up a picture in private emails... my pics are too big to send via the list. If you wanna see it (and my livingroom) send me a private email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~I am getting the idea slowly but surely, I have leather kitchen chairs that of course are ripped beyond repairthe door jams in the house are ripped beyond repair, (even though I do try) even the new rug I just put down is already snaggedclawing does not bother me PEE bothers me big time. No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
I'm not talking about scotch office tape, I mean the 2 inch wide clear packaging tape, just to be clear, I know that's what you are referring to also. And no, my cats don't touch it, they think it will attack them and kill them. They are very paranoid when it comes to things that stick to them. They hate having their hair pulled out by the stuff, or getting it stuck to their paws. Doobie DOES eat paper and other such things. I had a stray for a while (Moogie's mom) that ate plastic bags. Doobie sticks with generally digestible things, mostly toilet paper or junk mail. He rarely throws it up, he seems to digest it well, though it does make him anemic occasionally, so I have to dose him with what I fondly refer to as "vity-mighty-mins!" I say "Dbie, it's time for your Vity-mighty-mins!!!" and he RUNS as fast as he can and hides... LOL! I think it must taste really horrible... Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html ~~~ You mean your cats don't eat scotch tape? A couple of mine love it. They take it off any boxes, wherever. Sancho chews on it ... eats it ... throws it up :) He goes nuts for styrofoam ... eats it, throws it up. Any soft plastic bags, same routine! Del No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.12/46 - Release Date: 7/11/2005
Re: Tad's Special Needs Cat was: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie (rugs)
OK..Took a bunch of brand new pictures and put them on Aforeverhome Group... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aforeverhome/ just click join if you haven't already and go to photos... The album is Tad's siamese...Look at them all if you want and start your own album too Tad Mari Kolbe wrote: You really should post a picture of her online, so everyone can see her.It is fascinating how well she copes with her legs deformed as they are. I would very much like to see pictures of your baby Tad. You may send them to me off list since this topic is an OT, but we currently have several babies with missing and/or deformed rear legs and are in the process of adopting another little one who has only 1/2" stubbs for legs. While the ones we have are doing fine (one has about 2/3 of her rear legs and no feet) I am a little concerned about the new baby coming who has only a small amount of leg and no feet. His current care giver says he is using a modified litter box and zipping around the house with his bonded litter mate doing regular kitten things. -- /mari (SpiritCat) Until there are none, adopt one. SpiritCat and the Mooseheart Mumpkees of southeastern Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FIV+ Kitty
Amy, Did you see this post from Hideyo: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Katie Luensmann Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FivCats] New FIV Sanctuary Hello all my name is Katie and i am opening an FIV sanctuary in iowa. our building should be completed by the end of july or beginning of august. we plan to rescue cats with FIV, FeLK, and Diabetes. currently, i operate Kitties from Heaven, a no-kill, non profit feline rescue. We take in healthy cats of all ages from pretty much anywhere and find them new homes. our building will be specifically for special needs kitties, and each type of kitty will have their own room. we will have a cage free environment with plenty of places for kitties to climb and hide. we feed all of our kitties a hard food diet with vitamin suppliments, unless medical needs require otherwise. currently we have one FIV cat, two diabetics, and two FeLK cats here, and three FIV kitties waiting for transport. We believe we will be able to accept up to 12 of each type of cat, but won't know for sure until the building is constructed and we see just how much room there is. 12 will be the minimum number, though. our requirements for acceptance are as follows: 1) cats must be spayed/neutered (or come with a monetary donation for the surgery... $40) 2) Cats must be healthy (other than their initial diagnosis 3) Cats must be free of parasites 4) We ask for a small donation for each cat to help with future medical care. all donations will be kept for the cat with which they were recieved, and will not be put into a general fund. Please keep my information for future referance, and let me know if you have any questions. I look forward to hearing back from you. Thanks Katie -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Alum foil
A GREAT idea I got once from someone on this list. Remove the covers on your sofa cushions and put plastic trash bags around the cushions and then put the covers back on. That way, if someone has an 'accident' on your sofa you can remove the covers and wash them without the urine soaking all the way through. I went looking for a new sofa today and I'm going to buy the type that has a back made of loose cushions so that I can do the same thing on the back cushions since they aren't attached to the sofa. It does make for some funny noises when people sit down on your sofa though! lol. I use the wide packing tape to tape the trashbags on. That way nothing leaks through. tonyaCherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having a hard time, determining who is doing it.Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had the same experience trying to keep them off a new couch (silly me!)it was so much fun picking up shreds of aluminum foil all over the apt for weeks. Ultimately, got a cover for the couch . As for peeing, I have one who will periodically start upnot UTIsshe is on Clonicalm it really seems to work for her (knock on wood) Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:30 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Alum foil I tried this once. For maybe 2 days they were afraid of the foil. Then they played with the foil, tore it into bits, and peed in the area. You might have better luck though! It's always worth a try. tDel Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The noise of their pee on the foil might tend to foil the act. My house would be well decorated, but it is definitely an interesting thought. Del - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Bottom Lip/Cherie I did just look up Rodent ulcer and I am pretty sure that is what she has.it seems to have gotten a little worse but only slightly, the vet will be here next Tuesday, I am calling her tomorrow to see if she can send me something or tell me how to make Candy feel better. Thanks for you insight By the by regarding urinating problems, I read putting aluminum foil is the trouble spots might help deter marking.Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunny James had a swollen upper lip on one side ... rodent ulcer ... it disappeared on its own. At the time I could not remember what I had read about it and asked in this group because I, too, was concerned about it being contagious ... it is not. Usually from food allergies. Since Sunny James' fat lip did not reoccur, I wondered if it had been an allergic reaction to an insect bite. Del - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:12 PM Subject: Bottom Lip/Cherie I seem to recall someone on the list a few years ago having kitty that had this on their lips. Forgive I can't remember who it was for the life of me. In a message dated 7/11/2005 2:25:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our group has had one kitty with a rodent ulcer on the upper lip. The vet put him on steroids. Not considered contagious.GloriaOn Jul 11, 2005, at 1:20 PM, Cherie A Gabbert wrote: 1) I have a slight problem, my Himmie Candy has a sore on her bottom lip, that I can not identify, any thoughts? She is a negative to FeLV and I have a vet coming out next week, I am just worried that it could spread to the others. 2) I have to join the "pee club" I seem to have someone, not sure who have little accidents in two corners of the house, any thoughts how to determine which one it is...I only have one male but it is not vertical spraying and it is not alot... Any help would be appreciated ;-)) Cherie Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescueClick Here to Join K9 and Puddy Xpress Yahoo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/K9andPuddyXpress/joinhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.orecatay.com/http://www.awca.net/index.htmhttp://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/http://www.meezer.com/http://thesiamesestore.com/http://tx.siameserescue.org/adopt.htmlSouthern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cs.siameserescue.org/Northern CA. Siamese Rescuehttp://cn.siameserescue.org/http://co.siameserescue.org/http://va.siameserescue.org/https://www.paypal.com/ Have a purrfect day Cherie Have a purrfect day Cherie
Re: Need advice for FELV+ 6 week old kitten!
Gloria. I thought I read on here, though, that a kitten this young could be showing antibodies to felv from his mother?? I'm just trying to find out if being positive on both the Elisa, Snap and IFA at 5 weeks old (when tests were given) is proof positive that he will always be positive or throw it off even if it is in his bone marrow. Thanks for replying. I don't know if the test was light or strong positive. I haven't called Margaret yet as so far I have only received your reply and Hideyos. I hope to receive more replies that answers my specific questions on my first email. I think Interferon is that way to go if 6 weeks is not too young. I also think Vitamin C is a good idea. Thanks, Gloria. -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. Gloria Lane wrote: Hmmm - well, if the kitten tests positive for FELV, then he has the virus. I think it's an antigen test isn't it, not antibodies, for the office Elisa test. But as I understand, his little immune system could still throw the virus off, as you said. He should be tested again. I really don't know what I'd do - try to support his immune system or leave him be and do it on his own. I'd probably look at Interferon. Re Vit C, Dr. Belfield has a reputation for Vit C, and for using it against FELV. www.belfield.com, I think. Re when to retest, I don't recall - seems like it's 90 days... Again, was it a light positive or a strong positive? Gloria On Jul 11, 2005, at 5:42 PM, Brenda K. Smith wrote: Hi All.. I have a friend who's mother in Oregon rescued a little boy kitten who is about 6 weeks old now. Last week he tested positive for felv on the in office test. I don't know if it was the Snap or Elisa. The lady, Margaret, said they also sent out a sample to be tested at a lab. I believe it was the IFA. She found out today that it is also positive. I asked if they reported that it was replicating in his bone marrow and she asked the vet's office. The person said they thought that in order for it to be positive on the IFA that it would indicate it was replicating in the bone marrow. Is that true? When Margaret's daughter called to ask advice, I told her that a kitten may test positive from the mother cat's antibodies and that the kitten could possibly throw off the virus with good care, human grade food, stress level kept down and Interferon if the kitten is old enough to take it. I recommended Wellness kitten food and Margaret purchased both dry and canned Wellness. Margaret's vet upon seeing the positive test recommended euthanasia immediately. Margaret said absolutely not! She said they had already fallen in love with him and he was energetic showing no signs of illness. I know this lady very well having taught her and her daughter almost 15 years ago how to bottle raise 5 orphan kittens. She will do whatever is necessary to keep this kitten healthy and loved. Here are the questions for which I need answers: 1) Can a 6 week old kitten be on Interferon? I recommended the newest protocol (which I use) of daily Interferon. I use 1 ml daily for my adult cats. What would the dose be for a 2-3 lb. (I think) kitten? 2) If the kitten is positive with the IFA and/or is replicating in his bone marrow, will he remain persistently positive or can he throw if off? 3) Also, if replicating in bone marrow if/when should he be tested again? 4) What other supplements would be recommended? Vit C? What dose for a kitten? L-Lysine? What dose for kitten? If any of you have any other recommendations, please feel free to mention them. I will be calling Margaret tonight or tomorrow to read some of your answers. I will also be printing them out and mailing them to her. Margaret is in her early 70's and I don't know whether she has a computer. I really appreciate any advice you all might have for this cat/ kitten loving lady. All of my experience with felv+ with my cats have been as adults. I have never had a tiny positive kitten. I know I could go to the archives, but I still have dial up and limited internet time so I'm hoping you all don't mind repeating advice for Margaret. Thank you so much. -- Brenda. http://www.whiskersandwicks.com http:// www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself." - Colette Don't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.8.10 - Release Date: 7/6/2 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.8.10 - Release Date: 7/6/2005
