Re: Success with Rescue Cat- cat jackets
I must have missed some posts because I don't understand how these 'jackets' work tonya Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well done, Caroline. You and your mother must be both saddened and relieved at once. I'm sure you will miss her, but knowing that she is going home to a place where she is loved is a consolation. For 2 to 3 cat households, jackets are a great way to allow cats outdoors to roam around with relative safety. It really has changed all our lives. MeMe can spend hours on end hunting bugs or watching the bird bath and I no longer have the guilt of keeping her in, or the anxiety of worrying about where she is. She goes in and out a dozen times a day. I've begun putting her coat on in the morning and taking it off at night. On Aug 22, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote: No, I don't think they have the animal cruelty issue like we do. You have to remember that England's version of police officers don't even carry guns!!! Because they so rarely have any violent crime! An animal cruelty is a violent crime. I have always taken all my cats out on leashes, and now, harnesses. And I moved to the house I live in now a year ago, pretty much for Monkee. So that he could have a front, screened in and enclosed porch...which he worshiped. I moved there last August, not knowing that it would be the last year of his life, and that come Aug. 2007, he'd be gone. But I know for a fact that last year of his life was his happiest because he LOVED that porch more than anything! I hope to eventually always have a similar (but bigger) screened and enclosed porch for all the kitties I will someday have. They get the best of both worlds that way! -Caroline - From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Success with Rescue Cat Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:58:49 -0500 Yes, and for some reason, I am thinking that they do not have the animal cruelty problem there that we have here. I could be wrong. My cats actually seem healthier since they have access to the fresh air. No matter what the weather is like, they are out there. At night, of course, they have to sleep on top of me. Ever guarding the food source:) Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: RE: Success with Rescue Cat Susan, I noticed that about England on a British cat chat site that I was once a member of. But they all had backyards that were very small with fences and very interesting tops to the fences that kept the cats from crawling over. I hope someday to have a nice cat enclosure, but I could never have a fenced in yard. Our yard is much too bigplus we like our neighbors and dont want to fence them out! J But, I do sometimes feel cruel not letting the kitties out. I know theyd love to run around and roll around in the grass. This will remind me to keep saving for an enclosure! Melissa - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Dubose Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Success with Rescue Cat - Messenger Café open for fun 24/7. Hot games, cool activities served daily. Visit now.
RE: OT: Houston we have a problem (HELP!)
maybe she's upset that you're trapping her kittens and just being maternal
tonya
Stray Cat Alliance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma }Wow, I'm having a similar problem with a stray I took
in. She was okay for 2 weeks with my crew of 20 cats until I tried trapping
some kittens outside (they may have been her's). I had the crate for the
kittens (about 6) set up in my spare room, trapped 2 kittens -- got one in the
crate then got the 2nd trap into the hallway when the tortie stray jumped on
top of the trap and started howling and attacked me! Do you believe I hid in
the bathroom, I know silly me! My husband shooed her inside our bedroom and we
moved the crate into the garage. Next morning, she attacked my large male cat
Sylvester -- my husband said she went after him unrelentlessly and he had to
hit her with a bottle to get her off and she bit him. After that, I put her
back outside but she wanted back in and silly me couldn't stand it (she also
had a cold and I was giving her meds and set up a spay appt). She is now
in her cat free (Hah!) downstairs living room. She was in heat several times
and was fixed this past Saturday and is on Clavamox (she had lot of blood in
her urine but seems to be getting better). She rubs on me in the morning and
seems to be sweet but then starts twitching her tail at the same time and tries
to get my hand, swats at me, bites -- she didn't break skin until today but it
isn't too bad. One time Sylvester ran into the room w/o knowing she was there
and boy did she try to get him -- got him out safely before she did anything.
Then another time, my sweet 12 yr old kitty Sagusma ran in and there was a
standoff but I picked her up and got her out. I am almost afraid of her and am
thinking maybe I should have just TNR'd her. I just hate leaving friendly
cats out there (tho she is more of a Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde). It is just weird
as she sometimes likes to lay on top of me and have me scratch her chin. Then
she gets skitzo.
Anita
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Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:33:51 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Houston we have a problem (HELP!)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Susan,
I would ask the vet about some form of 'kitty prozac'. I'm keeping a cat for
a woman who lost her job, and I've had to put him on clonicalm.
tonya
Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,
Please read below and let me know if you have any suggestions for this kitty.
We have already recommended a veterinary exam, (Dr. Smith, feline expert
extraordinaire) in case it's a medical problem.
I do not know this kitty, but she was rescued from our local pound after she
was confiscated from a rescue group, along w/ 53 other cats.
Long story, but I will say that it was all politics and the rescue group was
not @ fault.
Anyway, she has been in her new home for about 2 months and things seemed to
be going fine, until recently.
Any suggestions would be most helpful.
Thanks!
I'm having trouble getting into my address book so I'm attaching
this to a previous note from you. Abby is not a happy little girl and I don't
know what to do about her. I think she's schizophrenic. In the morning she's
a reasonable cat but by night she's a wild thing. She's still making
unprovoked attacks on the old cats who are now terrified of her. It's to the
point that they won't use their litter boxes because she's lying in wait when
they come out. She takes their bowls away from them--doesn't eat the food but
won't let them eat. I've resorted to putting her in the guest room alone at
night so she doesn't sneak up on Diana ( who sleeps on my pillow) and launch a
battle at three in the morning. And more, Abby has attacked me a couple of
times in the last two days with claws and teeth. I was barefoot at the time
and she shredded the sole of my foot. She can't be petted without fighting
back, will not permit picking up, fights brushing, and is
generally hostile. No, I won't give her up...she might not survive another
transfer. But I've got to find a way to calm her down before she or one of the
other girls gets hurt. I've had Siamese all my life and these are not Siamese
characteristics. She comes and tells me she's hungry several times a day so
I've resorted to giving her small meals at intervals during the day. Since we
haven't had storms in several days, she hasn't had the frantic reactions those
brought, but she's really a mystery to me. She seems to have no concept of
human interaction and resents any attempt at stroking or petting. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful
Re: New to group; Questions
This is true, but when the saliva dries the virus dies. The virus is very fragile. When I brought in my first positive cat I didn't know she was positive and she was mixed with about ten other cats. One was a kitten that was for all purposes her 'littermate'. They groomed each other etc. My positive lived to be about 7 and I still have her littermate years later. Water bowls would be the best bet for transmission, but transmission just doesn't occur with adult, vaccinated cats very easily. tonya Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought felv could be transmitted through saliva, like preening, water bowls (staying wet) or litterboxes. fiv transmits through deep puncture wounds. Correct me if I am wrong. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika To: Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:56 PM Subject: Re: New to group; Questions On 8/21/07, Forgotten Souls wrote: Good evening, all! Hi there! How long does the virus actually survive in the environment? Very short time. The saying here is when it dries, it dies. How contagious and easily does the virus actually transmit from an affected cat? It is extremely difficult to transmit to a healthy adult cat. Main modes of transmission are deep bite wounds and nursing. Healthy adult cats have ~85% immunity to the virus. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: New to group; Questions
I guess that is a better safe than sorry route to take. But I take my leukemia positive cat to the vet's office and all they do is throw a towel over her cover so that she doesn't sneeze on anyone. The rule of thumb has always been when the virus dries, it dies. This means that it only lasts a matter of minutes. I suppose it might last longer in a water dish, but I'm thinking there's enough chlorine in average tap water to kill the virus if you change the dish frequently. That's what I've been told. Many people on this list keep positive cats and negative cats all integrated together but the negatives have been vaccinated. tonya Angela Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All! This is Ang. You helped me thru a very hard time on Tuesday with the passing of my kitty, Boy. I just read the message from Melody and I just wanted to share with everyone that my vet told me yesterday, when I had Ripley and Sherman to the vet, that clothes should be washed, hardwood floors should be bleached/scrubbed and all fabric should be washed. Couch and chair cushions should be washed by hand with hot water and disinfectant. I have also learned that food bowls, water bowls and litter boxes should be thrown out. They say that the virus can live outside the body for 3 hours, but I would rather be safe than sorry. Ang Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Melody! First, I want to say thanks so much for wanting to help a felv+cat, people who decide to bring one knowingly into their lives seem to be few far between. I have 5 now, and I also have many felv- cats, many of those are chronically ill w/other ailments or geriatric. Meaning, they already have compromised immune systems and I have to be very careful not to expose them to felv. So, I recommend 2 things, not allowing them to playunder the door w/each other (good to get a flap that can prevent this) and always wash your hands after handling your felv+ cat. It is a very delicate virus, so I do not believe you need to change your clothes after you spend time w/your felv+ cat. I don't change my clothes, but if I did I would have to do it several times per day. There are others on this list who might advise you to change your clothes, I don't know. Ask your vet for his /her opinion, also. This brings up another question, are you comfortable w/your vet's knowledge of felv..? Discoveries are being made quite frequently about this disease, so it is good to have a vet that is well informed and who keeps up w/all the new medical developments. I also recommend the standard immune boosters, L-Lysine, for sure, and I also use a product called Missing Link,but I get the Professional Strength formula, which is by prescription (vet). I also sprinkle Nutritional Yeast onto my cats' dry food, which is loaded w/B vitamins. These above products are also good for your felv- cats also, it wouldn't hurt them that's for sure to have some supplements. I would invest in a high quality dry food, I use Innova Evo mixed w/Wellness Core only for my felv+ cats. My felv- cats get predominantly the above foods, but if I have a coupon or find a good sale on Nutro, Iams or Blue Buffalo I will mix a bit into their food bin to help stretch the kitty budget. They also like these brands, and they think they are getting a real treat when I mix them in... :) You are correct about dedicated food bowls, I always run mine through the dishwasher, which would kill any germs but my felv+ cats have their own bowls dishes regardless. Bedding should not be shared, either, just to be safe., and my felv+ have their own litterboxes also. (I use a different typeof box altogether for them, that way I know when I see them they are for felv+). Since my washer / dryer area is in my felv- cats' room, I never pull the laundry from the felv+suite and leave it anywhere my felv- can lay on it, just to be safe. It goes directly into the washer, and I use an environmentally friendly detergent (7th Generation) but I do use bleach. I hear that 7th Generation also has a bleach product, but I have yet to find time to hunt it down.. :) My cats also have the Drinkwell systems, in both areas. I have 2 fountains that are dedicated to the felv+ alone, and they get switched out every 2 weeks. I also never clean both areas on the same day, just to be sure I do not mix any bowls, beds or Drinkwells. Does that make sense? I hope this helps you! Please let us know how things go and if you have anyone questions! Thanks! Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
Re: OT: Success with Rescue Cat
Great news! Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Okay, since there's been lots of debate and dare I say, controversy, over the Malnourished Rescue Cat my mom and I took in and have been caring for, I wanted everyone to know that she is GOING HOME and we have successfully reunited her with her family. Long story short, we pretty much took EVERYONE'S advice and tried a variety of tactics (as I previously mentioned-- signs posted, I posted on websites, etc.). As I had mentioned, from the Rabies tag, all we were able to obtain is the telephone number and street name (not number) of the owner and the name of the cat- Nosey. My mom and I pretty much sat on it for a while since by then, we'd already taken her to the Vet and started her on Clavamox and she needed so much rehabilitation anyway. We tried to decide what to do and we just hated the idea of totally cold call to this number...not knowing ANYTHING about the person and whether they were a good owner. We are almost finished with the Clavamox and have finished one tube of Terramycin and Nosey is still exhibiting Upper Respiratory Infection symptoms, thus my mom said we have to either: 1) take her back to the vet this week, as needs more care, or 2) call the owners and make sure they take her to the vet. Since I had the owner phone number, I FINALLY remembered that the Whitepages.com has this handy tab where you can do a reverse look-up- using the phone number...it will give you a name and address. Bingo! I got the street address we'd been wanting, which also provided me with the NAMES of the two people living there So, then I of course googled their names...and low and behold, one of them is a Partner at a law firm here and of course, my mouth dropped open (I am a lawyer too- and although this is a big city, it's a SMALL legal community), thus I knew I had to contact her at that point. I also knew she could definitely afford the vet bill Nosey incurred (they live on very rich street- I know that sounds weird, but the property value of the houses on that street is ridiculous). Anyway, I feel like the ultimate pet detective, seriously. Sometimes I think all I need in life is google and the white or yellowpages.com!!! My mom and I discussed it and I decided to send her an email at her firm's email address from my work email, so she would know where I work and that I am an attorney too. I took the initial vague route first (as was discussed on this list serve)...to feel her out, etc. She replied and said it's their cat and they looked for her for weeks and weeks, but didn't check online sites (which she apologized for) and asked when they could come get her. After another consult with my mom, my mom wanted me to send her another email where I socked it to her with the malnutrition, that she would have died if we hadn't taken her in, she went to the vet and this and that was done and the bill is this amount, we've been feeding her this that, she needs to go back to the vet because the URI is still lingering, I advise she go back and get this treatment (a full blood panel to check liver/kidney function, fecal for tapeworms, etc.). AND then I asked if she was outdoor/indoor cat and said if so, I recommend she NOT be an outdoor cat because she does not fair well outside, she has this URI that won't go away, and she's deathly afraid of storms and if she is out when one comes, she will run and hide. WHEW! All that. I also apologized for hitting her with all this at once and at work and admitted that I wanted to feel her out initially before I admitted that we had the cat in our house and have done intensive care/rehabbing. She responded really well!!! She gave me info about Nosey's background- they've had Nosey since birth and she lives with her Mother and Brother cats. They are mostly outside cats because they live on a large piece of property with a covered porch. She said the cats seldom go beyond the immediate neighbors (who love them), but the mother cat became an indoor cat a few years ago when she developed a URI!!! So, hopefully, now that poor Nosey has one that she can't seem to shake, they will make her an indoor cat now (which I did press upon her). She said they will compensate us for the care we did, thanked us, and said they will continue with further vet care for Nosey. We are going to try to connect tonight to do the hand-off. My mom and I both really happy that we've had a great result, but I have to admit that it took some detecting on my part, as we weren't going to turn this cat over to the great unknown! I will never know how Nosey got one mile away from her home, and in so doing, she had to have crossed one of the busiest state roads in Louisville (4 lanes of non-stop busy traffic, 45 mph speed limit) to get to our neighborhood???!! Thanks to everybody who provided insight into Nosey's
Re: To Michael Re: Update
You could put them on interferon. Some people have had success with this. also transfer factor if that hasn't been mentioned. tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info. I'll definitely look into better foods. Do you all think its ok to mix in their morning and nightly Fancy Feast Elegant Medleys? There are three of them, and they share a can each morning and each night, so they average only 1/3 of a can at a time, but its something they have come to expect. I guess I'm wondering if there's something wrong with giving that to them. They've been on the Purina Naturals dry food, but I'm going to switch over to something with no grains and high proteins. I'm going to look for the Innova Evo, but I don't recall ever seeing it. I'll be sure to look for something with no grains tomorrow. As for the nutritional supplement recommendation, I've already gotten Lysine and Echinacea, but haven't been able to get them to eat it yet. I'm hoping they will when they're feeling better. They did eat tonight, so that makes me feel better now that I've seen them eating. As for the supplements, are those the only two recommended, or is there something else? And do you guys mix that in the dry food, or in their wet food? Luckily, we rarely ever have guests, and rarely leave for more than a couple of days at a time (and my sister is here with them when we leave, with whom they are very familiar, she has been living here on and off). They did not vaccinate the cat they knew had tested positive, but vaccinated Poppy because they ran out of ELISA tests and had to send in an IFA test with her along with Grizzabella's. I'm not comfortable with this vet office treating them, so that's why I'm going in the morning to get them to refer them to University of Tennessee School of Veterinary Medicine. I looked up the hospital tonight, quite impressive...they have 10 exam rooms, 7000 dogs/cats a year, an intensive care unit, specialists in every field you can imagine, it looks very promising: http://www.vet.utk.edu/ The vet's office bothered me because they didn't even recommend an IFA test to verify her positive ELISA test. They just said she had it, period. That didn't sit well with me. I feel very personally responsible for them getting sick and I'm taking this very hard. But all I can do now is make sure they have the absolute best care possible. Ok, to summarize, here's what I need input on from you guys: 1. Fancy Feast Elegant Medleys...1/3 of a can morning and night...is this ok? 2. Dry food...brand recommendations 3. Supplements...any recommendations other than lysine and echinacea, and do you put it in wet or dry food? 4. Treatment options? Do you use the ImmunoRegulin Or Interferon Alpha in healthy cats, or is that treatment options you use when they're symptomatic? Thanks for all the support to everyone and all the emails I've received. It really helps me to feel like I have some sense of control over the situation, and I'm not just completely helpless. Michael - Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.
Re: Question about eye ulcers
I would go to the vet. I know it's stressful, but you have no way of knowing how to treat something like that without seeing the vet and possibly an eye specialist... I hope Jingles pulls through this. My first leukemia kitty pulled through pneumonia and herpes at about 1 year old and then lived on to about 7. tonya Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my feleuk babies, Jingles, who is about 5 and was most likely born positive, has been going downhill over the last couple of months -- pretty much the typical course of a failing feleuk+ kitty. But he has a new problem right now and it is one I have never seen before. His eye was watering; in trying to wipe it and medicate I noticed what looked like a wad of yellowish-white eye goop and I tried to wipe it away -- but it is an ulcer - a lump, for lack of a better term - attached to his eye. I have started him on lysine, because in other ways the eye looks herpes-y -- but I have never seen a lump on the eyeball like this. Anyone??? I haven't yet taken him to the vet -- hate to put him through the stress if I don't have to -- and you guys know way more than most vets when it comes to feleuk!
Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty?
What are his symptoms? tonya Beckie McRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Moeman is dying. Im just trying to keep him comfortable as possible now. No more pokes and prods, etc. Hes content I think. Im just wondering if you guys could tell me the typical course of dying for a FELV cat? Will he just get weaker and weaker like he has been?
Re: my enclosure
I live in Austin, Tx., but I actually have friends that have nicer enclosres than me. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 1:08 AM Subject: Re: my enclosure Where does this woman live??? t
Anyone have any FeLV cats ...NY area
Since i have moved here in April, I have been at a sanctuary in Franklin, NY It is run by a judge and her husband from NYC...wonderful place. They had 2 + cats. One died. She is looking for a couple more to keep the one remaining one happy. Anyone know of any friendly cats? They have a vet on site. Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz
RE: Sylvester died at home this morning
Tracy, I'm so sorry, but it sounds like he had a good life with you and a peaceful passing. Gentle Bridge vibes to him, and hugs to you. Diane R. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tracy Weese Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Sylvester died at home this morning My giant (well, he used to be) ol' farm cat died this morning at home. Sylvester came off a farm where I take care of a dwindling (thanks to TNR) cat colony. He got very sick about 2 years ago and I took him to the vet...of course it was more than being sick, he had FeLV+. So he came home with my other cats (I had few other positives then, after today down to two now and soon to be one-CW is anemic and fading, too). He was big when I got him, about 16 pounds despite being so ill. After many at the vets' and then living at home, he was up to 22 lbs! He stayed pretty healthy for about 1 year and 4 months (he was probably 7 when I got him). He always had a little cough the vets thought was asthma (and yes, we checked and re-checked this). But recently, he was not the same, more coughing, high fever, not eatingturns out his blood counts were all haywire. Low RBC, Low white count and low plateletsthe antibiotics for the fever made his tummy hurt, too. So at the vet yesterday I asked if it was time to let him go (he lost 2 lbs in a week), the vet didn't think so bec. of course, he perked up at the vets' and purred and pranced...He got a vitamin B12 shot and his very first steroid shot (yes, we discussed that steriods in a FeLV+ cat were a last resort). When we got home, he had a good night. He ate some, and hung out with me and th This morning I awoke to a few sounds of slight distresshe was sleeping under the bed again (actually, the cats tore the bottom fabric of the box springs and he would sleep inside the box springs). I reached down and touched him and told him I was there and then went to get a carrier to go to the vet. In the seconds it took for me to run downstairs and get the carrier and come back up, he was gone. I had to cut the rest of the fabric to get him since he would lay furtherst from the opening. I pulled him out and he was still, he looked very peaceful--no signs of struggle on him or under the bed. This is the very first cat I have had that died at home (and I have a cabinet full of cremated remains)...it was not terrible, but I did not plan it. Last night was so good for him, I guess he had only one last good night in him. He died with me nearby and in the place he felt safest, under the bed. I took him to the vets' so he can be cremated. I don't think he suffered but a few short seconds if that. I gave him permission several days ago to leave if he needed to, I guess he needed to go today. Although I will miss him, several of my other cats will not. He was a gentle giant, but a few of my smaller cats terrorized him if they got the chance. He never struck out first and usually retreated, but he was always a sweetie to people. Please think good thoughts for Sylvester.
Re: Sylvester died at home this morning
Tracy, I'm so sorry. It never fails to make me cry when I read these posts...It seems like each one of the little guys has their own special way of saying goodbye to us and it always seems like they are also thanking those people who stuck by them and loved them so much. I know he was special. One thing about loving a cat is you can never regret it...Love from us here in Nebraska. Glenda --- Tracy Weese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My giant (well, he used to be) ol' farm cat died this morning at home. Sylvester came off a farm where I take care of a dwindling (thanks to TNR) cat colony. He got very sick about 2 years ago and I took him to the vet...of course it was more than being sick, he had FeLV+. So he came home with my other cats (I had few other positives then, after today down to two now and soon to be one-CW is anemic and fading, too). He was big when I got him, about 16 pounds despite being so ill. After many at the vets' and then living at home, he was up to 22 lbs! He stayed pretty healthy for about 1 year and 4 months (he was probably 7 when I got him). He always had a little cough the vets thought was asthma (and yes, we checked and re-checked this). But recently, he was not the same, more coughing, high fever, not eatingturns out his blood counts were all haywire. Low RBC, Low white count and low plateletsthe antibiotics for the fever made his tummy hurt, too. So at the vet yesterday I asked if it was time to let him go (he lost 2 lbs in a week), the vet didn't think so bec. of course, he perked up at the vets' and purred and pranced...He got a vitamin B12 shot and his very first steroid shot (yes, we discussed that steriods in a FeLV+ cat were a last resort). When we got home, he had a good night. He ate some, and hung out with me and the others (he had been staying under the bed except when I would drag him out for meds). He even played some and tried to squeeze into a tiny box like he used to. This morning I awoke to a few sounds of slight distresshe was sleeping under the bed again (actually, the cats tore the bottom fabric of the box springs and he would sleep inside the box springs). I reached down and touched him and told him I was there and then went to get a carrier to go to the vet. In the seconds it took for me to run downstairs and get the carrier and come back up, he was gone. I had to cut the rest of the fabric to get him since he would lay furtherst from the opening. I pulled him out and he was still, he looked very peaceful--no signs of struggle on him or under the bed. This is the very first cat I have had that died at home (and I have a cabinet full of cremated remains)...it was not terrible, but I did not plan it. Last night was so good for him, I guess he had only one last good night in him. He died with me nearby and in the place he felt safest, under the bed. I took him to the vets' so he can be cremated. I don't think he suffered but a few short seconds if that. I gave him permission several days ago to leave if he needed to, I guess he needed to go today. Although I will miss him, several of my other cats will not. He was a gentle giant, but a few of my smaller cats terrorized him if they got the chance. He never struck out first and usually retreated, but he was always a sweetie to people. Please think good thoughts for Sylvester. Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
Re: Sylvester died at home this morning
Tracy I am so sorry about your sweet Sylvester.He was near the one who loved him in his last moments.Hugs to you Sherry Tracy Weese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My giant (well, he used to be) ol' farm cat died this morning at home. Sylvester came off a farm where I take care of a dwindling (thanks to TNR) cat colony. He got very sick about 2 years ago and I took him to the vet...of course it was more than being sick, he had FeLV+. So he came home with my other cats (I had few other positives then, after today down to two now and soon to be one-CW is anemic and fading, too). He was big when I got him, about 16 pounds despite being so ill. After many at the vets' and then living at home, he was up to 22 lbs! He stayed pretty healthy for about 1 year and 4 months (he was probably 7 when I got him). He always had a little cough the vets thought was asthma (and yes, we checked and re-checked this). But recently, he was not the same, more coughing, high fever, not eatingturns out his blood counts were all haywire. Low RBC, Low white count and low plateletsthe antibiotics for the fever made his tummy hurt, too. So at the vet yesterday I asked if it was time to let him go (he lost 2 lbs in a week), the vet didn't think so bec. of course, he perked up at the vets' and purred and pranced...He got a vitamin B12 shot and his very first steroid shot (yes, we discussed that steriods in a FeLV+ cat were a last resort). When we got home, he had a good night. He ate some, and hung out with me and the others (he had been staying under the bed except when I would drag him out for meds). He even played some and tried to squeeze into a tiny box like he used to. This morning I awoke to a few sounds of slight distresshe was sleeping under the bed again (actually, the cats tore the bottom fabric of the box springs and he would sleep inside the box springs). I reached down and touched him and told him I was there and then went to get a carrier to go to the vet. In the seconds it took for me to run downstairs and get the carrier and come back up, he was gone. I had to cut the rest of the fabric to get him since he would lay furtherst from the opening. I pulled him out and he was still, he looked very peaceful--no signs of struggle on him or under the bed. This is the very first cat I have had that died at home (and I have a cabinet full of cremated remains)...it was not terrible, but I did not plan it. Last night was so good for him, I guess he had only one last good night in him. He died with me nearby and in the place he felt safest, under the bed. I took him to the vets' so he can be cremated. I don't think he suffered but a few short seconds if that. I gave him permission several days ago to leave if he needed to, I guess he needed to go today. Although I will miss him, several of my other cats will not. He was a gentle giant, but a few of my smaller cats terrorized him if they got the chance. He never struck out first and usually retreated, but he was always a sweetie to people. Please think good thoughts for Sylvester. - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.
Re: Sylvester died at home this morning
Tracy, I'm saddened to hear of Sylvester's passing this morning. He was so very lucky to have you and bless you for caring for him and his colony. Where would they have been without you? Sylvester wouldn't have had the wonderful year and a half he had with you had you not taken care of him. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Tracy Weese [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:11:32 AM Subject: Sylvester died at home this morning My giant (well, he used to be) ol' farm cat died this morning at home. Sylvester came off a farm where I take care of a dwindling (thanks to TNR) cat colony. He got very sick about 2 years ago and I took him to the vet...of course it was more than being sick, he had FeLV+. So he came home with my other cats (I had few other positives then, after today down to two now and soon to be one-CW is anemic and fading, too). He was big when I got him, about 16 pounds despite being so ill. After many at the vets' and then living at home, he was up to 22 lbs! He stayed pretty healthy for about 1 year and 4 months (he was probably 7 when I got him). He always had a little cough the vets thought was asthma (and yes, we checked and re-checked this). But recently, he was not the same, more coughing, high fever, not eatingturns out his blood counts were all haywire. Low RBC, Low white count and low plateletsthe antibiotics for the fever made his tummy hurt, too. So at the vet yesterday I asked if it was time to let him go (he lost 2 lbs in a week), the vet didn't think so bec. of course, he perked up at the vets' and purred and pranced...He got a vitamin B12 shot and his very first steroid shot (yes, we discussed that steriods in a FeLV+ cat were a last resort). When we got home, he had a good night. He ate some, and hung out with me and the others (he had been staying under the bed except when I would drag him out for meds). He even played some and tried to squeeze into a tiny box like he used to. This morning I awoke to a few sounds of slight distresshe was sleeping under the bed again (actually, the cats tore the bottom fabric of the box springs and he would sleep inside the box springs). I reached down and touched him and told him I was there and then went to get a carrier to go to the vet. In the seconds it took for me to run downstairs and get the carrier and come back up, he was gone. I had to cut the rest of the fabric to get him since he would lay furtherst from the opening. I pulled him out and he was still, he looked very peaceful--no signs of struggle on him or under the bed. This is the very first cat I have had that died at home (and I have a cabinet full of cremated remains)...it was not terrible, but I did not plan it. Last night was so good for him, I guess he had only one last good night in him. He died with me nearby and in the place he felt safest, under the bed. I took him to the vets' so he can be cremated. I don't think he suffered but a few short seconds if that. I gave him permission several days ago to leave if he needed to, I guess he needed to go today. Although I will miss him, several of my other cats will not. He was a gentle giant, but a few of my smaller cats terrorized him if they got the chance. He never struck out first and usually retreated, but he was always a sweetie to people. Please think good thoughts for Sylvester. Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
Re: OT: Best Friends-found photos
I have heard they have a rescue training for people wanting to open a rescue and I think I heard about $1500, but not sure. I think Melissa has this info. They had a lot of cute ideas for 'resting' areas and up high areas. And they were SO clean. I wish I could keep my house that clean! lol. I know one thing...God did not put me on earth to clean because that is certainly not where my talents lie. When we can ever afford it, in the next ten years or so, I am going to hire someone to clean my house every 1-2 weeks. I know that sounds horrible, but it's true. And besides, someone else will be able to make extra money due to my inabilities! lol. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:21:41 PM Subject: Re: OT: Best Friends-found photos Wow,that was cool! Thanks so much for sharing! Everything looked s clean! Wish I could keep my cat room enclosure that clean (my working gets in the way). For now,I have to just schdule certain things certain days, likeone day I do felv+ room,one day I do non felv+ bowls, Drinkwells, pull bedding. All litterboxes are on aschdule too. I liked how they had the laundry basket w/the blanket tied inside, Lord knows how much kitties like laundry baskets Now, don't they have a training camp too? It's like $1500. to go? One of my friends went years ago... Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: Re: OT: Best Friends-found photos http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/wendy2724/my_photos Link to Best Friends photos and photos of Belle the day after we rescued her, so that's why she's emaciated. They finally let me into my old link, but I don't know how long it will work. You can view a slide show of the photos of Best Friends, which is better than clicking in and out of each one. The option is in the upper right hand corner after you click into the specific album. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:00:28 PM Subject: OT: Best Friends Yes, their set ups for the dogs and cats are fantastic! Those animals are spoiled. I probably would never adopt from there because the cat probably would never want to leave! I will send a link to my trip at Best Friends. I might have to wait though. Yahoo Photos is closing, and I just transferred my photos there to Flickr, and it's taking a little time. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:25:01 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers/Benton's House www.bestfriends.org check 'em out.. All critters should be this lucky. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:10 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers/Benton's House Who/What is this Best Friends? I must be missing something? Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search
Re: Sylvester died at home this morning
At 06:11 AM 8/25/2007, you wrote: I am so very sorry.It hurts, but it is good to know he was well happy and very loved until her crossed Kelly My giant (well, he used to be) ol' farm cat died this morning at home. Sylvester came off a farm where I take care of a dwindling (thanks to TNR) cat colony. He got very sick about 2 years ago and I took him to the vet...of course it was more than being sick, he had FeLV+. So he came home with my other cats (I had few other positives then, after today down to two now and soon to be one-CW is anemic and fading, too). He was big when I got him, about 16 pounds despite being so ill. After many at the vets' and then living at home, he was up to 22 lbs! He stayed pretty healthy for about 1 year and 4 months (he was probably 7 when I got him). He always had a little cough the vets thought was asthma (and yes, we checked and re-checked this). But recently, he was not the same, more coughing, high fever, not eatingturns out his blood counts were all haywire. Low RBC, Low white count and low plateletsthe antibiotics for the fever made his tummy hurt, too. So at the vet yesterday I asked if it was time to let him go (he lost 2 lbs in a week), the vet didn't think so bec. of course, he perked up at the vets' and purred and pranced...He got a vitamin B12 shot and his very first steroid shot (yes, we discussed that steriods in a FeLV+ cat were a last resort). When we got home, he had a good night. He ate some, and hung out with me and the others (he had been stng under the bed except when I would drag him out for meds). He even played some and tried to squeeze into a tiny box like he used to. This morning I awoke to a few sounds of slight distresshe was sleeping under the bed again (actually, the cats tore the bottom fabric of the box springs and he would sleep inside the box springs). I reached down and touched him and told him I was there and then went to get a carrier to go to the vet. In the seconds it took for me to run downstairs and get the carrier and come back up, he was gone. I had to cut the rest of the fabric to get him since he would lay furtherst from the opening. I pulled him out and he was still, he looked very peaceful--no signs of struggle on him or under the bed. This is the very first cat I have had that died at home (and I have a cabinet full of cremated remains)...it was not terrible, but I did not plan it. Last night was so good for him, I guess he had only one last good night in him. He died with me nearby and in the place he felt safest, under the bed. I took him to the vets' so he can be cremated. I don't think he suffered but a few short seconds if that. I gave him permission several days ago to leave if he needed to, I guess he needed to go today. Although I will miss him, several of my other cats will not. He was a gentle giant, but a few of my smaller cats terrorized him if they got the chance. He never struck out first and usually retreated, but he was always a sweetie to people. Please think good thoughts for Sylvester. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.6/971 - Release Date: 8/24/2007 2:59 PM
Re: double pos. (Kerry)
Hi Susan, Yes, I am a member of the fiv group..I never posted much there, but I read alot..there is alot of info in the archives there. You have to be approved and give your kitties complete history. It is well worth it though.. Bandy was on all the things you mentioned + many more..I always gave him 30mg Co Q 10 daily. I really believe the folic acid helped the anemia. I used some more immune vitamins from onlynaturalpet.com. If you need any more info, you can email me direct. Are you in Texas? We are in Stephenville just west of Ft. Worth. He got 500mg lysine daily, too. The fiv never really gave him problems..I think all were related to felv. Good luck, Kerry, Inky and Angel Bandy - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
Re: T-cyte.....?
Susan, Fred gets subqs daily for his CRF, I buy the fluids at my local Fred Meyer, a box of 12 for 38.00 way cheaper than the vet sells them (12.00 a bag), he gets 150cc a day. Most vets will write a prescription for you and have a tech show you how to do it. It isn't hard unless the cat is less than cooperative like Fred was to begin with, he would bite me. I had to use clothes pins on his scruff for about a week, he still tried to bite me but couldn't reach me so after a week he decided to just suffer through the torture his once loving mom was inflicting on him, he still hates it but knows he is getting and and realizes grouchingly it does make him feel better. he has been getting them for a year now. I also torture him by giving him pills 3 times a day he has grudgingly gotten used to the routine!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Yahoo! Photos is closing September 20th-need to transfer your photos if you have them there
I found a good place to store your photos, it has no banners that's why I like it and it's free. I set this up for a client of mine. You can pick a template and colors and like I said no banners or obligations to buy photos like some of the others have, its easy to set up too, here is my clients site: http://petwellnessexpo.party.homepagenow.com/photographs.shtml You can sign up here: http://homepagenow.com/ -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Anyone have any FeLV cats ...NY area
Theyc an always apply for someof the FLOCK cats, through Best Friends. It is my understanding that they will fly them via a volunteer pilot to their new homes. 39 out of 400+ tested felv+, so far. Not sure how many more need to be tested, or whether they are friendly. It was set up as a feral sanctuary, but ferals do turn friendly, espeically when they are sick, in pain, etc.. Sounds like a cool place. Do they have a website? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:42 AM Subject: Anyone have any FeLV cats ...NY area Since i have moved here in April, I have been at a sanctuary in Franklin, NY It is run by a judge and her husband from NYC...wonderful place. They had 2 + cats. One died. She is looking for a couple more to keep the one remaining one happy. Anyone know of any friendly cats? They have a vet on site. Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz
Re: OT: Best Friends-found photos
Don't feel bad, my vet's wife, Sheila, has a housekeeper 5 days per week @ 6 hours each day, (and it's just the 2 of them) and 2 cat care staff 7 days per week. All floors are mopped twice per day. I don't think I could ever get used to that many people around me. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: Re: OT: Best Friends-found photos I have heard they have a rescue training for people wanting to open a rescue and I think I heard about $1500, but not sure. I think Melissa has this info. They had a lot of cute ideas for 'resting' areas and up high areas. And they were SO clean. I wish I could keep my house that clean! lol. I know one thing...God did not put me on earth to clean because that is certainly not where my talents lie. When we can ever afford it, in the next ten years or so, I am going to hire someone to clean my house every 1-2 weeks. I know that sounds horrible, but it's true. And besides, someone else will be able to make extra money due to my inabilities! lol. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:21:41 PM Subject: Re: OT: Best Friends-found photos Wow,that was cool! Thanks so much for sharing! Everything looked s clean! Wish I could keep my cat room enclosure that clean (my working gets in the way). For now,I have to just schdule certain things certain days, likeone day I do felv+ room,one day I do non felv+ bowls, Drinkwells, pull bedding. All litterboxes are on aschdule too. I liked how they had the laundry basket w/the blanket tied inside, Lord knows how much kitties like laundry baskets Now, don't they have a training camp too? It's like $1500. to go? One of my friends went years ago... Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: Re: OT: Best Friends-found photos http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/wendy2724/my_photos Link to Best Friends photos and photos of Belle the day after we rescued her, so that's why she's emaciated. They finally let me into my old link, but I don't know how long it will work. You can view a slide show of the photos of Best Friends, which is better than clicking in and out of each one. The option is in the upper right hand corner after you click into the specific album. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:00:28 PM Subject: OT: Best Friends Yes, their set ups for the dogs and cats are fantastic! Those animals are spoiled. I probably would never adopt from there because the cat probably would never want to leave! I will send a link to my trip at Best Friends. I might have to wait though. Yahoo Photos is closing, and I just transferred my photos there to Flickr, and it's taking a little time. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:25:01 PM Subject: Re: Question about eye ulcers/Benton's House www.bestfriends.org check 'em out.. All critters should be this lucky. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net
Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butplease indulge
I used epogen (same thing as procrit) when my Bailey was anemic along with prenisolone because we suspected the virus was in his bone marrow supressing his immune system and interfering with blood building. We reversed his anemia with this combo. Procrit used in humans is at a much, much higher does and shouldn't scare anyone off from using it with cats that are anemic, any cats with CRF end up using it in the later stages as the kidney disease eventually interferes with the production of erythropoietin which the Epogen, Procrit and the new drug called Aranesp help to produce. In my mind your cat WILL die if the enemia isn't reversed period, so if there is something that may help what have you got to lose?? Below paragraph my opinion (based on what my vet told me when I asked her about this): PS. Has your cat been on a minimum 4 to 6 week course of Doxocycline for possible hemobartonella? Even if he tested negative he should have gotten this (my opinion). Hemo is very hard to test for and many cats tests negative again and again before it is finally found. Though they are never cured of hemo the doxy will put it into remission. If they don't have it it isn't going to hurt to get the doxy but my very well save their life if they have an undiagnosed case of hemo. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: T-cyte.....?
Ok, stupid question, what does CRF stand for? Thanks! Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:49 AM Subject: Re: T-cyte.? Susan, Fred gets subqs daily for his CRF, I buy the fluids at my local Fred Meyer, a box of 12 for 38.00 way cheaper than the vet sells them (12.00 a bag), he gets 150cc a day. Most vets will write a prescription for you and have a tech show you how to do it. It isn't hard unless the cat is less than cooperative like Fred was to begin with, he would bite me. I had to use clothes pins on his scruff for about a week, he still tried to bite me but couldn't reach me so after a week he decided to just suffer through the torture his once loving mom was inflicting on him, he still hates it but knows he is getting and and realizes grouchingly it does make him feel better. he has been getting them for a year now. I also torture him by giving him pills 3 times a day he has grudgingly gotten used to the routine!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Sylvester died at home this morning
I am sorry, Tracey, for your loss. But it sounds like he had a wonderful home, and you are right, he knew it was time to go.. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Tracy Weese To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:11 AM Subject: Sylvester died at home this morning My giant (well, he used to be) ol' farm cat died this morning at home. Sylvester came off a farm where I take care of a dwindling (thanks to TNR) cat colony. He got very sick about 2 years ago and I took him to the vet...of course it was more than being sick, he had FeLV+. So he came home with my other cats (I had few other positives then, after today down to two now and soon to be one-CW is anemic and fading, too). He was big when I got him, about 16 pounds despite being so ill. After many at the vets' and then living at home, he was up to 22 lbs! He stayed pretty healthy for about 1 year and 4 months (he was probably 7 when I got him). He always had a little cough the vets thought was asthma (and yes, we checked and re-checked this). But recently, he was not the same, more coughing, high fever, not eatingturns out his blood counts were all haywire. Low RBC, Low white count and low plateletsthe antibiotics for the fever made his tummy hurt, too. So at the vet yesterday I asked if it was time to let him go (he lost 2 lbs in a week), the vet didn't think so bec. of course, he perked up at the vets' and purred and pranced...He got a vitamin B12 shot and his very first steroid shot (yes, we discussed that steriods in a FeLV+ cat were a last resort). When we got home, he had a good night. He ate some, and hung out with me and th This morning I awoke to a few sounds of slight distresshe was sleeping under the bed again (actually, the cats tore the bottom fabric of the box springs and he would sleep inside the box springs). I reached down and touched him and told him I was there and then went to get a carrier to go to the vet. In the seconds it took for me to run downstairs and get the carrier and come back up, he was gone. I had to cut the rest of the fabric to get him since he would lay furtherst from the opening. I pulled him out and he was still, he looked very peaceful--no signs of struggle on him or under the bed. This is the very first cat I have had that died at home (and I have a cabinet full of cremated remains)...it was not terrible, but I did not plan it. Last night was so good for him, I guess he had only one last good night in him. He died with me nearby and in the place he felt safest, under the bed. I took him to the vets' so he can be cremated. I don't think he suffered but a few short seconds if that. I gave him permission several days ago to leave if he needed to, I guess he needed to go today. Although I will miss him, several of my other cats will not. He was a gentle giant, but a few of my smaller cats terrorized him if they got the chance. He never struck out first and usually retreated, but he was always a sweetie to people. Please think good thoughts for Sylvester.
Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty?PLS READ
I have experienced BOTH having a feleuk positive cat die at home and a feleuk positive one I thought was dying survive. The difference? The one who I thought was dying (it was Isabella who is doing GREAT NOW) continued to eat. She wasn't eating as much but still defecating and eating SOME. She was miserable. She had many other symptoms (high temp, anemia, spasms or seizures, pain or false pain, hiding). I called the vet one day when I was sick with worry and asked if it was time. He said not if she is still eating. This was over a month ago and she is (for now) symptom free ~ we found the right combination of meds, etc. I had no idea Stripes was dying (my first cat to die so I didn't know anything about it). Wasn't eating or drinking. We took him to vet every day or so for fluids and vitamins. He later changed locations and laid in his litter box for a couple days (or so?). I regret deeply putting him through this. When I finally realized he was dying- when he started having trouble breathing and was coughing. I called the vet to have him euthanized. We went outside to dig his grave while waiting for the vet and when we came back in he had died. This is my experience and I will never have a cat suffer to death again. I wish you and your kitty Moeman the best, Laurie
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Thank you Susan. I had been reading about the Flock cats. I will work on it Mon. The address for the Sanctuary is loveandhopeforanimals.org It is an amazing place, and they are truly dedicated. Dede --- Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theyc an always apply for someof the FLOCK cats, through Best Friends. It is my understanding that they will fly them via a volunteer pilot to their new homes. 39 out of 400+ tested felv+, so far. Not sure how many more need to be tested, or whether they are friendly. It was set up as a feral sanctuary, but ferals do turn friendly, espeically when they are sick, in pain, etc.. Sounds like a cool place. Do they have a website? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:42 AM Subject: Anyone have any FeLV cats ...NY area Since i have moved here in April, I have been at a sanctuary in Franklin, NY It is run by a judge and her husband from NYC...wonderful place. They had 2 + cats. One died. She is looking for a couple more to keep the one remaining one happy. Anyone know of any friendly cats? They have a vet on site. Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: T-cyte.....?
At 01:09 PM 8/25/2007, you wrote: not stupid at all chronic renal failure as opposed to A.R.F (acute renal failure) Ok, stupid question, what does CRF stand for? Thanks! Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:49 AM Subject: Re: T-cyte.? Susan, Fred gets subqs daily for his CRF, I buy the fluids at my local Fred Meyer, a box of 12 for 38.00 way cheaper than the vet sells them (12.00 a bag), he gets 150cc a day. Most vets will write a prescription for you and have a tech show you how to do it. It isn't hard unless the cat is less than cooperative like Fred was to begin with, he would bite me. I had to use clothes pins on his scruff for about a week, he still tried to bite me but couldn't reach me so after a week he decided to just suffer through the torture his once loving mom was inflicting on him, he still hates it but knows he is getting and and realizes grouchingly it does make him feel better. he has been getting them for a year now. I also torture him by giving him pills 3 times a day he has grudgingly gotten used to the routine!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.6/971 - Release Date: 8/24/2007 2:59 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.6/971 - Release Date: 8/24/2007 2:59 PM
Re: Yahoo! Photos is closing September 20th-need to transfer your photosif you have them there
Hmmm - when I went to photos.yahoo.com, this is the message I got: Welcome Back Notice Anything New? While you were out we were working hard on the New Yahoo! Photos, and here it is. Don't worry - even though it looks different, all your photos and your albums are still here. But we've added some new features that we'd like to walk you through (we think you'll like 'em). We're going to take you to the page where we keep all your photos, but we'll bring you back very shortly. Let's go! On Aug 24, 2007, at 11:04 PM, wendy wrote: Hey guys, I went in to look at my photos on Yahoo! that I had stored there, and they are closing Yahoo! photos soon. So if you have photos there, they won't be there anymore if you don't transfer them. They'll go into cyber space, lost forever. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ __ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
Re: Sylvester died at home this morning
Tracy, what sad news. I know you will miss him. Sounds like he was blessed - to have you, to be cared for, and to be able to pass away gently and where he felt safest. What a wonderful, lucky cat. I am truly sorry for your loss. Thoughts and prayers coming for Sylvester. Gloria On Aug 25, 2007, at 8:11 AM, Tracy Weese wrote: My giant (well, he used to be) ol' farm cat died this morning at home. Sylvester came off a farm where I take care of a dwindling (thanks to TNR) cat colony. He got very sick about 2 years ago and I took him to the vet...of course it was more than being sick, he had FeLV +. So he came home with my other cats (I had few other positives then, after today down to two now and soon to be one-CW is anemic and fading, too). He was big when I got him, about 16 pounds despite being so ill. After many at the vets' and then living at home, he was up to 22 lbs! He stayed pretty healthy for about 1 year and 4 months (he was probably 7 when I got him). He always had a little cough the vets thought was asthma (and yes, we checked and re-checked this). But recently, he was not the same, more coughing, high fever, not eatingturns out his blood counts were all haywire. Low RBC, Low white count and low plateletsthe antibiotics for the fever made his tummy hurt, too. So at the vet yesterday I asked if it was time to let him go (he lost 2 lbs in a week), the vet didn't think so bec. of course, he perked up at the vets' and purred and pranced...He got a vitamin B12 shot and his very first steroid shot (yes, we discussed that steriods in a FeLV+ cat were a last resort). When we got home, he had a good night. He ate some, and hung out with me and the others (he had been staying under the bed except when I would drag him out for meds). He even played some and tried to squeeze into a tiny box like he used to. This morning I awoke to a few sounds of slight distresshe was sleeping under the bed again (actually, the cats tore the bottom fabric of the box springs and he would sleep inside the box springs). I reached down and touched him and told him I was there and then went to get a carrier to go to the vet. In the seconds it took for me to run downstairs and get the carrier and come back up, he was gone. I had to cut the rest of the fabric to get him since he would lay furtherst from the opening. I pulled him out and he was still, he looked very peaceful--no signs of struggle on him or under the bed. This is the very first cat I have had that died at home (and I have a cabinet full of cremated remains)...it was not terrible, but I did not plan it. Last night was so good for him, I guess he had only one last good night in him. He died with me nearby and in the place he felt safest, under the bed. I took him to the vets' so he can be cremated. I don't think he suffered but a few short seconds if that. I gave him permission several days ago to leave if he needed to, I guess he needed to go today. Although I will miss him, several of my other cats will not. He was a gentle giant, but a few of my smaller cats terrorized him if they got the chance. He never struck out first and usually retreated, but he was always a sweetie to people. Please think good thoughts for Sylvester.
Re: Yahoo! Photos is closing September 20th-need to transfer your photosif you have them there
If you go to the Yahoo! main page, and click on 'Photos' under More Yahoo! Services, you will see at the side Have you heard the news?. That's where it says they are closing. Plus, my husband got an email telling him they were closing. If you have photos embedded INSIDE one of your Yahoo! groups, that does not qualify. Those photos will stay. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:42:18 PM Subject: Re: Yahoo! Photos is closing September 20th-need to transfer your photosif you have them there Hmmm - when I went to photos.yahoo.com, this is the message I got: Welcome Back Notice Anything New? While you were out we were working hard on the New Yahoo! Photos, and here it is. Don't worry - even though it looks different, all your photos and your albums are still here. But we've added some new features that we'd like to walk you through (we think you'll like 'em). We're going to take you to the page where we keep all your photos, but we'll bring you back very shortly. Let's go! On Aug 24, 2007, at 11:04 PM, wendy wrote: Hey guys, I went in to look at my photos on Yahoo! that I had stored there, and they are closing Yahoo! photos soon. So if you have photos there, they won't be there anymore if you don't transfer them. They'll go into cyber space, lost forever. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ __ __ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
Re: Sylvester changed to Boots
This probably is a bit off topic, but since we are discussing when cats pass away, I thought it would be of interest. I have a client that is a Buddhist,and he is also a Hospice caregiver. He tends to the dying,of course, and is there to hold their hand in their final hour. Anyway, he was called out of town alot, I believe he took on cases where people had no family, friends very little money. Sometimes prisons. So I took care of his 18+ year old cat that was also in renal failure. MIss Boots Big Tail, hated everyone but my client, Steve. His girlfriend was from China, and although she loved Boots, Boots always made a point to let her know she was second fiddle. And his girlfriend wasn't used to the concept of pets, for some reason (that was how he explained it to me) due to the part of China that she was originally from. Boots would insist on always being in between them when they would be on the couch, etc. Anyway, Boots would be visited by me 3 times perday when he was out of town and 2 of those times it would be for her meals (whipped Pet Guard or Wellness w/ her meds purified water added, and it had to be warmed up in a double sausepan.) She also recieved fluids. Boy, did he love this cat, only client I ever had that insisited on me removing my shoes when I entered his home, he did not want any germs to be brought into her from my other clients or my own cats. (Now I have a policy where I always remove my shoes or wear the nurse booties. I liketo respect people's homes) When Boots finally was in her last leg of her journey on earth, she could not walk and had to be carried everywhere. I of course, would need to clean her up,because she could not make it to the box. She was still so alert tho, and she was eating great. On the night that she died, he knew her time had come. He stayed up w/her all night, and about 4am he passed out from exhaustion for just a few moments, when he woke up, she was gone. We believe that she needed to go, but could not as long as he was awake. And the interesting part was, this cat was the last of 3 cats that he inherited from his ex wife when she died. I don't know any details, I never ask clients, I just let them talk and tell me what they feel they need to. When his wife died, she was buried in a pet cemetary w/ her other cats out of state. Her reasoning was that she always liked respected animals more than people,so she choose to be buried amoung them. He packed up Boots and took her out of state to be buried along side his ex wife Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Gloria B. Lane To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Sylvester died at home this morning Tracy, what sad news. I know you will miss him. Sounds like he was blessed - to have you, to be cared for, and to be able to pass away gently and where he felt safest. What a wonderful, lucky cat. I am truly sorry for your loss. Thoughts and prayers coming for Sylvester. Gloria
Re: T-cyte.....?
Thanks, Kelly! My Kelly Kay Bear (she's 15years) would have CRF then. She is on Calcitriol SID and Missing Link. Perhaps I shall look into fluids for her, I amsure she will hate it... Belinda, do you warmup the fluids for Fred? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: Re: T-cyte.? At 01:09 PM 8/25/2007, you wrote: not stupid at all chronic renal failure as opposed to A.R.F (acute renal failure) Ok, stupid question, what does CRF stand for? Thanks! Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:49 AM Subject: Re: T-cyte.? Susan, Fred gets subqs daily for his CRF, I buy the fluids at my local Fred Meyer, a box of 12 for 38.00 way cheaper than the vet sells them (12.00 a bag), he gets 150cc a day. Most vets will write a prescription for you and have a tech show you how to do it. It isn't hard unless the cat is less than cooperative like Fred was to begin with, he would bite me. I had to use clothes pins on his scruff for about a week, he still tried to bite me but couldn't reach me so after a week he decided to just suffer through the torture his once loving mom was inflicting on him, he still hates it but knows he is getting and and realizes grouchingly it does make him feel better. he has been getting them for a year now. I also torture him by giving him pills 3 times a day he has grudgingly gotten used to the routine!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.6/971 - Release Date: 8/24/2007 2:59 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.6/971 - Release Date: 8/24/2007 2:59 PM
Re: Sylvester changed to Boots
Thank you for sharing this great story! In a message dated 8/25/2007 4:03:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This probably is a bit off topic, but since we are discussing when cats pass away, I thought it would be of interest. I have a client that is a Buddhist,and he is also a Hospice caregiver. He tends to the dying,of course, and is there to hold their hand in their final hour. Anyway, he was called out of town alot, I believe he took on cases where people had no family, friends very little money. Sometimes prisons. So I took care of his 18+ year old cat that was also in renal failure. MIss Boots Big Tail, hated everyone but my client, Steve. His girlfriend was from China, and although she loved Boots, Boots always made a point to let her know she was second fiddle. And his girlfriend wasn't used to the concept of pets, for some reason (that was how he explained it to me) due to the part of China that she was originally from. Boots would insist on always being in between them when they would be on the couch, etc. Anyway, Boots would be visited by me 3 times perday when he was out of town and 2 of those times it would be for her meals (whipped Pet Guard or Wellness w/ her meds purified water added, and it had to be warmed up in a double sausepan.) She also recieved fluids. Boy, did he love this cat, only client I ever had that insisited on me removing my shoes when I entered his home, he did not want any germs to be brought into her from my other clients or my own cats. (Now I have a policy where I always remove my shoes or wear the nurse booties. I liketo respect people's homes) When Boots finally was in her last leg of her journey on earth, she could not walk and had to be carried everywhere. I of course, would need to clean her up,because she could not make it to the box. She was still so alert tho, and she was eating great. On the night that she died, he knew her time had come. He stayed up w/her all night, and about 4am he passed out from exhaustion for just a few moments, when he woke up, she was gone. We believe that she needed to go, but could not as long as he was awake. And the interesting part was, this cat was the last of 3 cats that he inherited from his ex wife when she died. I don't know any details, I never ask clients, I just let them talk and tell me what they feel they need to. When his wife died, she was buried in a pet cemetary w/ her other cats out of state. Her reasoning was that she always liked respected animals more than people,so she choose to be buried amoung them. He packed up Boots and took her out of state to be buried along side his ex wife Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: _https://www.paypal.com/_ (https://www.paypal.com/) _http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/_ (http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/) _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue) _http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html) _http://www.felineleukemia.org/_ (http://www.felineleukemia.org/) _http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html_ (http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html) _http://www.petloss.com/_ (http://www.petloss.com/) _http://tazzys.photos.homepagenow.com/homepage.shtml_ (http://tazzys.photos.homepagenow.com/homepage.shtml) ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: Question about eye ulcers
Michael, I found Bailey at 5 months of age, positive then. I lost him last May at 11 years of age. He had just turned 11 years old 5 days before he passed. He wasn't sick his whole life except for the last 6 months when he became anemic and quit eating. We fixed the anemia but he still wouldn't eat and was lethargic and had conctant diarrhea, from his symtoms we knew he had cancer somewhere and tested and tested for it, ultra sounds everything we could think of, couldn't find it. By the time I finally agreed to let my vet do exploratory surgery he was too weak and I brought him home and he passed with us on the couch about an hour later. Necropsy showed us he had pancreatic cancer, that's why he wouldn't eat and was lethargic with constant diarrhea. He was the happiest, silly cat I've ever known and the sweetest. I miss his sweet little happy face a lot ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Anyone have any FeLV cats ...NY area
These are on the adoptable listing but have been there a while so not sure they are still available: In Elmsford New York http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=11685 In NY, NY http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?request=detailid=11719 -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Sylvester changed to Boots
I am so fortunate to have some really really great clients. I really liked this guy because he was such a warm, caring compassionate person. And he did so much for his cat. And he did so much for a cat that was his ex wife's. How many ex husbands would do that? Being a petsitter has helped heal my heart some what, because prior to this job I worked as Animal Intake Clinic Nurse @ the Austin Humane Society. Boy, talk about learning how to bite my tongue. And the funny thing is,I don't always like all my clients,but it doesn't matter, I don't have to. As long as they take care of their animals that's all I care about. And some of the things they do for their pets is amazing Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: Re: Sylvester changed to Boots Thank you for sharing this great story! In a message dated 8/25/2007 4:03:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This probably is a bit off topic, but since we are discussing when cats pass away, I thought it would be of interest. I have a client that is a Buddhist,and he is also a Hospice caregiver. He tends to the dying,of course, and is there to hold their hand in their final hour. Anyway, he was called out of town alot, I believe he took on cases where people had no family, friends very little money. Sometimes prisons. So I took care of his 18+ year old cat that was also in renal failure. MIss Boots Big Tail, hated everyone but my client, Steve. His girlfriend was from China, and although she loved Boots, Boots always made a point to let her know she was second fiddle. And his girlfriend wasn't used to the concept of pets, for some reason (that was how he explained it to me) due to the part of China that she was originally from. Boots would insist on always being in between them when they would be on the couch, etc. Anyway, Boots would be visited by me 3 times perday when he was out of town and 2 of those times it would be for her meals (whipped Pet Guard or Wellness w/ her meds purified water added, and it had to be warmed up in a double sausepan.) She also recieved fluids. Boy, did he love this cat, only client I ever had that insisited on me removing my shoes when I entered his home, he did not want any germs to be brought into her from my other clients or my own cats. (Now I have a policy where I always remove my shoes or wear the nurse booties. I liketo respect people's homes) When Boots finally was in her last leg of her journey on earth, she could not walk and had to be carried everywhere. I of course, would need to clean her up,because she could not make it to the box. She was still so alert tho, and she was eating great. On the night that she died, he knew her time had come. He stayed up w/her all night, and about 4am he passed out from exhaustion for just a few moments, when he woke up, she was gone. We believe that she needed to go, but could not as long as he was awake. And the interesting part was, this cat was the last of 3 cats that he inherited from his ex wife when she died. I don't know any details, I never ask clients, I just let them talk and tell me what they feel they need to. When his wife died, she was buried in a pet cemetary w/ her other cats out of state. Her reasoning was that she always liked respected animals more than people,so she choose to be buried amoung them. He packed up Boots and took her out of state to be buried along side his ex wife Terrie Mohr-Forker TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Donations accepted at: https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://www.petloss.com/ http://tazzys.photos.homepagenow.com/homepage.shtml -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.
Re: Sylvester changed to Boots
There is a good book out called Grave Matters. It tells you exactly what is allowed and what is not,what is required and what is pushedon people in the most critical time of their lives, when they are grieving. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: Sylvester changed to Boots THAT is a great idea...I want to be buried with my cats' ashes and it is prohibited here. This may be the answer~ put ME where they can be buried! - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Sylvester changed to Boots This probably is a bit off topic, but since we are discussing when cats pass away, I thought it would be of interest. I have a client that is a Buddhist,and he is also a Hospice caregiver. He tends to the dying,of course, and is there to hold their hand in their final hour. Anyway, he was called out of town alot, I believe he took on cases where people had no family, friends very little money. Sometimes prisons. So I took care of his 18+ year old cat that was also in renal failure. MIss Boots Big Tail, hated everyone but my client, Steve. His girlfriend was from China, and although she loved Boots, Boots always made a point to let her know she was second fiddle. And his girlfriend wasn't used to the concept of pets, for some reason (that was how he explained it to me) due to the part of China that she was originally from. Boots would insist on always being in between them when they would be on the couch, etc. Anyway, Boots would be visited by me 3 times perday when he was out of town and 2 of those times it would be for her meals (whipped Pet Guard or Wellness w/ her meds purified water added, and it had to be warmed up in a double sausepan.) She also recieved fluids. Boy, did he love this cat, only client I ever had that insisited on me removing my shoes when I entered his home, he did not want any germs to be brought into her from my other clients or my own cats. (Now I have a policy where I always remove my shoes or wear the nurse booties. I liketo respect people's homes) When Boots finally was in her last leg of her journey on earth, she could not walk and had to be carried everywhere. I of course, would need to clean her up,because she could not make it to the box. She was still so alert tho, and she was eating great. On the night that she died, he knew her time had come. He stayed up w/her all night, and about 4am he passed out from exhaustion for just a few moments, when he woke up, she was gone. We believe that she needed to go, but could not as long as he was awake. And the interesting part was, this cat was the last of 3 cats that he inherited from his ex wife when she died. I don't know any details, I never ask clients, I just let them talk and tell me what they feel they need to. When his wife died, she was buried in a pet cemetary w/ her other cats out of state. Her reasoning was that she always liked respected animals more than people,so she choose to be buried amoung them. He packed up Boots and took her out of state to be buried along side his ex wife Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Gloria B. Lane To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Sylvester died at home this morning Tracy, what sad news. I know you will miss him. Sounds like he was blessed - to have you, to be cared for, and to be able to pass away gently and where he felt safest. What a wonderful, lucky cat. I am truly sorry for your loss. Thoughts and prayers coming for Sylvester. Gloria
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Thanks, Dede for the link. I will check it out. I love seeing what other people are doing for the animals, makesmefeelso not alone... Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:27 PM Thank you Susan. I had been reading about the Flock cats. I will work on it Mon. The address for the Sanctuary is loveandhopeforanimals.org It is an amazing place, and they are truly dedicated. Dede --- Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theyc an always apply for someof the FLOCK cats, through Best Friends. It is my understanding that they will fly them via a volunteer pilot to their new homes. 39 out of 400+ tested felv+, so far. Not sure how many more need to be tested, or whether they are friendly. It was set up as a feral sanctuary, but ferals do turn friendly, espeically when they are sick, in pain, etc.. Sounds like a cool place. Do they have a website? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:42 AM Subject: Anyone have any FeLV cats ...NY area Since i have moved here in April, I have been at a sanctuary in Franklin, NY It is run by a judge and her husband from NYC...wonderful place. They had 2 + cats. One died. She is looking for a couple more to keep the one remaining one happy. Anyone know of any friendly cats? They have a vet on site. Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
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Wow,Dede, what a cool kitty room! So bright and cheerful.. It lookslikethey have just started building their website, I bookmarked it so I can watch it develop.. Thanks for sharing ! Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:27 PM Thank you Susan. I had been reading about the Flock cats. I will work on it Mon. The address for the Sanctuary is loveandhopeforanimals.org It is an amazing place, and they are truly dedicated. Dede --- Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theyc an always apply for someof the FLOCK cats, through Best Friends. It is my understanding that they will fly them via a volunteer pilot to their new homes. 39 out of 400+ tested felv+, so far. Not sure how many more need to be tested, or whether they are friendly. It was set up as a feral sanctuary, but ferals do turn friendly, espeically when they are sick, in pain, etc.. Sounds like a cool place. Do they have a website? Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: dede hicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:42 AM Subject: Anyone have any FeLV cats ...NY area Since i have moved here in April, I have been at a sanctuary in Franklin, NY It is run by a judge and her husband from NYC...wonderful place. They had 2 + cats. One died. She is looking for a couple more to keep the one remaining one happy. Anyone know of any friendly cats? They have a vet on site. Dede When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz When you are in the service of your fellow beings, you are only in the service of your God Mosiah 2:17 Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: double pos. (Kerry)
Yes,Kerry, we are in Austin, Tx. I joined fiv last night, lots to read already... Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Kerry Roach To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: Re: double pos. (Kerry) Hi Susan, Yes, I am a member of the fiv group..I never posted much there, but I read alot..there is alot of info in the archives there. You have to be approved and give your kitties complete history. It is well worth it though.. Bandy was on all the things you mentioned + many more..I always gave him 30mg Co Q 10 daily. I really believe the folic acid helped the anemia. I used some more immune vitamins from onlynaturalpet.com. If you need any more info, you can email me direct. Are you in Texas? We are in Stephenville just west of Ft. Worth. He got 500mg lysine daily, too. The fiv never really gave him problems..I think all were related to felv. Good luck, Kerry, Inky and Angel Bandy -- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
Re: T-cyte.....?
Do you warm them in a saucepan of water? Thanks! Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: Re: T-cyte.? Yes I warm them and check them with an IR thermometer to make sure they aren't too hot but warm enough. Fred grouches if they aren't warm enough. I warm them to between 98 and 99 degrees, the IR thermometer is accurate to with +-5 degrees so I figure that is about right. I try to get them about 98 that way they are no warmer than 103 degrees. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Sylvester changed to Boots
Also: different things are allowed in different areas. Some rural areas are more understanding. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:48 PM Subject: Re: Sylvester changed to Boots There is a good book out called Grave Matters. It tells you exactly what is allowed and what is not,what is required and what is pushedon people in the most critical time of their lives, when they are grieving. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: Sylvester changed to Boots THAT is a great idea...I want to be buried with my cats' ashes and it is prohibited here. This may be the answer~ put ME where they can be buried! - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Sylvester changed to Boots This probably is a bit off topic, but since we are discussing when cats pass away, I thought it would be of interest. I have a client that is a Buddhist,and he is also a Hospice caregiver. He tends to the dying,of course, and is there to hold their hand in their final hour. Anyway, he was called out of town alot, I believe he took on cases where people had no family, friends very little money. Sometimes prisons. So I took care of his 18+ year old cat that was also in renal failure. MIss Boots Big Tail, hated everyone but my client, Steve. His girlfriend was from China, and although she loved Boots, Boots always made a point to let her know she was second fiddle. And his girlfriend wasn't used to the concept of pets, for some reason (that was how he explained it to me) due to the part of China that she was originally from. Boots would insist on always being in between them when they would be on the couch, etc. Anyway, Boots would be visited by me 3 times perday when he was out of town and 2 of those times it would be for her meals (whipped Pet Guard or Wellness w/ her meds purified water added, and it had to be warmed up in a double sausepan.) She also recieved fluids. Boy, did he love this cat, only client I ever had that insisited on me removing my shoes when I entered his home, he did not want any germs to be brought into her from my other clients or my own cats. (Now I have a policy where I always remove my shoes or wear the nurse booties. I liketo respect people's homes) When Boots finally was in her last leg of her journey on earth, she could not walk and had to be carried everywhere. I of course, would need to clean her up,because she could not make it to the box. She was still so alert tho, and she was eating great. On the night that she died, he knew her time had come. He stayed up w/her all night, and about 4am he passed out from exhaustion for just a few moments, when he woke up, she was gone. We believe that she needed to go, but could not as long as he was awake. And the interesting part was, this cat was the last of 3 cats that he inherited from his ex wife when she died. I don't know any details, I never ask clients, I just let them talk and tell me what they feel they need to. When his wife died, she was buried in a pet cemetary w/ her other cats out of state. Her reasoning was that she always liked respected animals more than people,so she choose to be buried amoung them. He packed up Boots and took her out of state to be buried along side his ex wife Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with
Re: Sylvester changed to Boots
Thanks! I will get a copy... :L (I also have the ashes from a buck who lived here and died after being shot by a poachernot sure WHAT the rules will be for him!) - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:48 PM Subject: Re: Sylvester changed to Boots There is a good book out called Grave Matters. It tells you exactly what is allowed and what is not,what is required and what is pushedon people in the most critical time of their lives, when they are grieving. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: Sylvester changed to Boots THAT is a great idea...I want to be buried with my cats' ashes and it is prohibited here. This may be the answer~ put ME where they can be buried! - Original Message - From: Susan Dubose To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Sylvester changed to Boots This probably is a bit off topic, but since we are discussing when cats pass away, I thought it would be of interest. I have a client that is a Buddhist,and he is also a Hospice caregiver. He tends to the dying,of course, and is there to hold their hand in their final hour. Anyway, he was called out of town alot, I believe he took on cases where people had no family, friends very little money. Sometimes prisons. So I took care of his 18+ year old cat that was also in renal failure. MIss Boots Big Tail, hated everyone but my client, Steve. His girlfriend was from China, and although she loved Boots, Boots always made a point to let her know she was second fiddle. And his girlfriend wasn't used to the concept of pets, for some reason (that was how he explained it to me) due to the part of China that she was originally from. Boots would insist on always being in between them when they would be on the couch, etc. Anyway, Boots would be visited by me 3 times perday when he was out of town and 2 of those times it would be for her meals (whipped Pet Guard or Wellness w/ her meds purified water added, and it had to be warmed up in a double sausepan.) She also recieved fluids. Boy, did he love this cat, only client I ever had that insisited on me removing my shoes when I entered his home, he did not want any germs to be brought into her from my other clients or my own cats. (Now I have a policy where I always remove my shoes or wear the nurse booties. I liketo respect people's homes) When Boots finally was in her last leg of her journey on earth, she could not walk and had to be carried everywhere. I of course, would need to clean her up,because she could not make it to the box. She was still so alert tho, and she was eating great. On the night that she died, he knew her time had come. He stayed up w/her all night, and about 4am he passed out from exhaustion for just a few moments, when he woke up, she was gone. We believe that she needed to go, but could not as long as he was awake. And the interesting part was, this cat was the last of 3 cats that he inherited from his ex wife when she died. I don't know any details, I never ask clients, I just let them talk and tell me what they feel they need to. When his wife died, she was buried in a pet cemetary w/ her other cats out of state. Her reasoning was that she always liked respected animals more than people,so she choose to be buried amoung them. He packed up Boots and took her out of state to be buried along side his ex wife Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: Gloria B. Lane To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Sylvester died at home this morning Tracy, what sad news. I
Add Keisha to CS?
Belinda, can Keisha be added to the CandleLight service list, please? She was not feline leukemia positive Died 7.14.07 Thanks, Laurie - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry butpleaseindulge I used epogen (same thing as procrit) when my Bailey was anemic along with prenisolone because we suspected the virus was in his bone marrow supressing his immune system and interfering with blood building. We reversed his anemia with this combo. Procrit used in humans is at a much, much higher does and shouldn't scare anyone off from using it with cats that are anemic, any cats with CRF end up using it in the later stages as the kidney disease eventually interferes with the production of erythropoietin which the Epogen, Procrit and the new drug called Aranesp help to produce. In my mind your cat WILL die if the enemia isn't reversed period, so if there is something that may help what have you got to lose?? Below paragraph my opinion (based on what my vet told me when I asked her about this): PS. Has your cat been on a minimum 4 to 6 week course of Doxocycline for possible hemobartonella? Even if he tested negative he should have gotten this (my opinion). Hemo is very hard to test for and many cats tests negative again and again before it is finally found. Though they are never cured of hemo the doxy will put it into remission. If they don't have it it isn't going to hurt to get the doxy but my very well save their life if they have an undiagnosed case of hemo. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: T-cyte.....?
I warm them in the sink. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Neville Please add to the CLS
I am sorry and saddened to say that Jen had to let poor Neville go tonight.I got to say good bye to him earlier.He was one of our Hurricane Katrina cats. My nick name for him was Slim Shady.He was a very odd and exotic looking boy. Also could you add Nova to your prayers,she is having problems now too.She is a feisty beast with major attitude but we love them ALL. THanks so much Sherry - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV.
