Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger

2005-03-22 Thread Eric Dussault
I haven't timed the exact duration of eps. export, but I've seen it 
take around 8-10 seconds per page on big scores. About 4-5 seconds is 
what I estimate it takes for normal sized music.

Le 05-03-22, à 00:06, Paul Hayden a écrit :
Éric Dussault

Eric Dussault wrote:
EPS export takes forever on ANY system. I have a PowerMac G5 Dual 1.8
GHz with 1 GB of Ram, and it doesn't make any difference.
...and Hiroaki Honshuk wrote:
Did I tell you I bought G5 Dual 2.5GHz a month ago?
How long does it take you gentlemen to export one page from a score or 
part?

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Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger

2005-03-22 Thread Richard Yates
 EPS export takes forever on ANY system.
 How long does it take you gentlemen to export one page from a score or
 part?

10 years and still waiting.

Richard Yates
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Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger

2005-03-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 22, 2005, at 12:06 AM, Paul Hayden wrote:

How long does it take you gentlemen to export one page from a score or 
part?

I was interested in this thread, as I have an aging G4 733 mHz with 
Panther, so I did a test (FinMac 2005a).

To print to PDF, from the time I press OK to the time that the status 
box disappears:

For one 8-1/2 X 11 page of a very dense score for big band, just short 
of 4 seconds.

For all 37 pages of the same dense score, 1 minute 29 seconds, or a 
little over 2 seconds a page.

That is acceptable to me, given the age of my computer. I remember 
Adobe Distiller in System 9 on this same machine as much zippier, but 
that WAS a two-stage process, after all. Perhaps the heavy lifting was 
done during the EPS exportation.

Is it really that much faster on 2.5 gig dual-processor behemoth?
Christopher
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Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger

2005-03-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 22, 2005, at 6:43 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Mar 22, 2005, at 12:06 AM, Paul Hayden wrote:

How long does it take you gentlemen to export one page from a score 
or part?

I was interested in this thread, as I have an aging G4 733 mHz with 
Panther, so I did a test (FinMac 2005a).

To print to PDF, from the time I press OK to the time that the status 
box disappears:

For one 8-1/2 X 11 page of a very dense score for big band, just short 
of 4 seconds.

For all 37 pages of the same dense score, 1 minute 29 seconds, or a 
little over 2 seconds a page.

Sorry, I didn't realise we were talking about postscript export. I went 
back and performed an EPS export on the same file. Here are my results:

I page, about 2 seconds. It was hard to time it accurately, as I am 
sure I was seeing some screen work as well.

All 37 pages, about 58 seconds.
It would appear that the EPS export is indeed the heavy lifting, 
whereas the PDF creation is comparatively quicker.

Hope this compares favourably.
Christopher
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Re: [Finale] OS X 10.4 Tiger

2005-03-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Mar 22, 2005, at 6:54 AM, Richard Yates wrote:
EPS export takes forever on ANY system.
How long does it take you gentlemen to export one page from a score 
or
part?
10 years and still waiting.
Richard Yates
Finale for Windows 2005
Aw, that sounded so pathetic; I feel really bad for you guys.
So bad, in fact, that I will make you an offer. If you are really stuck 
and need EPS output, you can send me the file, and I will export a 
Postscript file for you on FinMac 2005 and send it back. You would have 
to tell me the page size and orientation, I think. The only thing that 
might snag me is if you have custom fonts, so we would have to watch 
out for that. The offer would also be dependent on my availability, so 
count on up to a couple of days turnaround. We can try a test on one 
file first, to make sure everything works.

You can buy me a beer if I ever come to your town.
I could do the same thing with PDFs, but I have my doubts about 
Finale's PDF output. I haven't gotten any complaints yet (in fact, 
everyone raves about how easy and beautiful it is to get parts from me 
this way) but I suspect that some PDF's are fuzzier than Finale's 
direct printer output. Does anyone have any info about that 
possibility?

Christopher
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Re: [Finale] pick-up measure

2005-03-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 06:44 AM 3/20/05 -0500, dhbailey wrote:
Owain Sutton wrote:
 Slight hijack:  Why is it that choirs never seem to be able to use bar 
 numbers, even when provided in their edition?  Why do conductors always 
 seem to need to say Orchestra, from bar 68, choir, from 'Qui tollis'...?

Either that, or Chorus, from page 3, second system.

I came from an instrumental background, but have directed several choruses.
In the beginning, I would give measure numbers to a chorus and expect to
start. But there would be a rustle of pages and I'd hear in response what
page is that? And if I gave the page, I would get where on the page?,
accompanied by lots of looking at pointing fingers in neighboring folders.
Slowly but surely I was trained away from giving measure numbers to singers
and learned to give multiply-redundant instructions in one breath like,
Pickup to measure 68, please. That's page 3, middle of the second system,
'peccata mundi' [my voice ending in a Gen-X raised-pitch semi-question].
Tenors first. Pickup to the beginning of the measure, please. Tenors?
Peccata mundi? Here go.

:)

Dennis


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[Finale] Re: OS X 10.4 Tiger

2005-03-22 Thread Paul Hayden
Eric Dussault wrote:
I haven't timed the exact duration of eps. export, but I've seen it
take around 8-10 seconds per page on big scores. About 4-5 seconds is
what I estimate it takes for normal sized music.
Times for my old Power Mac G4 (500 MHz), OS X 10.3.5, FinMac04c r1:
1. large 11 X 17 orchestral score with 27 staves: 57 secs. rotating 
eighth note, 1 sec. with that EPS export progress window.

2. letter size page with 9 staves: 13 secs. rotating eighth note, 1 
sec. with progress window.

I emailed MM in July of 2004 about these long export times (EPS 
export was very fast in previous versions of Finale under OS 9), and 
they replied:

Finale 2004 in general will be slower number 1 because it is under 
OSX (a more processor-intensive operating system to begin with), as 
well as the fact that it is not yet fully optimized for OSX having 
just been ported over from OS9 code (dating back over 14 years ago!).

I did everything they suggested, but it did not speed up export times.
I just hope a dual-2.5 GHz Power Mac G5 with Finale 2005 or 2006 will 
perform EPS exports at a decent speed without that stupid font 
warning window (fixed in Fin05, I hope).

Paul Hayden
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[Finale] Tweaking Exported Parts

2005-03-22 Thread Jonathan Smith
Deluded - well maybe, but my method (message 4 last posting) works fine 
without the need to load any more plugins and takes only a few seconds 
to set up.

If it can be done successfully within Finale then why not do it?
Read the original question to this thread and you'll see that my 
solution works just fine - no plugins (or light bulbs) required.

Jonathan

Already got it. I'm just helping out the poor deluded souls who haven't
seen the light yet. 8-)
Christopher
On Mar 21, 2005, at 3:52 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hey guys,
Get Copyists Helper, already!  Seriously.  These workarounds are
clever, I'll admit, but none of them approach the simplicity and
usefulness of Robert's plugin.
- Darcy

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[Finale] Exporting eps

2005-03-22 Thread David Froom
Paul Hayden askes:
 
 How long does it take you gentlemen to export one page from a score or part?

I use eps export for everything I do in Finale.  I use a G4 powerbook,
1.33ghz, OS 10.3.8, 1.5 gb ram.  It takes me seven seconds to export a
single page (I just tried it).  I usually don't get the annoying font boxes.
It used to be faster -- there is now a 6 second hesitation before the dialog
box comes up, but once that comes up, the process is about a second.

So I am not particularly troubled about exporting eps files for a 40-50 page
score, which takes less than 4 minutes total.

David Froom


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Re: [Finale] Tweaking Exported Parts

2005-03-22 Thread Christopher Smith
Oh, lighten up! I only began using Robert's Copyist plugin myself 
recently, and up until then I was happily using the same method as you 
were (except when I use Special Parts Extraction. If the score allows 
it easily (say, when there are a lot of instruments playing at the same 
time, or if there are a lot of repeats that have to be formatted just 
so), it's a real time saver!)

Christopher
On Mar 22, 2005, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote:
Deluded - well maybe, but my method (message 4 last posting) works 
fine without the need to load any more plugins and takes only a few 
seconds to set up.

If it can be done successfully within Finale then why not do it?
Read the original question to this thread and you'll see that my 
solution works just fine - no plugins (or light bulbs) required.

Jonathan

Already got it. I'm just helping out the poor deluded souls who 
haven't
seen the light yet. 8-)

Christopher
On Mar 21, 2005, at 3:52 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Hey guys,
Get Copyists Helper, already!  Seriously.  These workarounds are
clever, I'll admit, but none of them approach the simplicity and
usefulness of Robert's plugin.
- Darcy

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[Finale] OT Giant Steps

2005-03-22 Thread Christopher Smith
For those who are fans of John Coltrane, check out this animation. So 
simple, yet he really seems to hear the piece the way I think a lot of 
jazz musicians might hear it. It's kind of like a Fantasia (the movie) 
treatment for jazz nuts.

http://michalevy.com/gs_download.html
Christopher
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Re: [Finale] OT Giant Steps

2005-03-22 Thread Chuck Israels
 Brilliant.  It exposes the architecture of the music without demeaning it by making it a subservient accompaniment to the animation.

Thanks for the link, Chris

Chuck

On Mar 22, 2005, at 12:24 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:

For those who are fans of John Coltrane, check out this animation. So simple, yet he really seems to hear the piece the way I think a lot of jazz musicians might hear it. It's kind of like a Fantasia (the movie) treatment for jazz nuts.

http://michalevy.com/gs_download.html

Christopher

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Re: [Finale] Tweaking Exported Parts

2005-03-22 Thread Robert Patterson
I can't claim to be disinterested in this subject, but FWIW there is no need to 
speculate whether the plugin provides enough added value to be worth the price. 
If you download and install it, you get a 30-day fully functional free trial.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 07:12 PM
 To: finale@shsu.edu
 Subject: [Finale] Tweaking Exported Parts
 
 Deluded - well maybe, but my method (message 4 last posting) works fine 
 without the need to load any more plugins and takes only a few seconds 
 to set up.
 
 If it can be done successfully within Finale then why not do it?
 
 Read the original question to this thread and you'll see that my 
 solution works just fine - no plugins (or light bulbs) required.
 
 Jonathan
 
 
  Already got it. I'm just helping out the poor deluded souls who haven't
  seen the light yet. 8-)
 
  Christopher
 
 
  On Mar 21, 2005, at 3:52 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
 
  Hey guys,
 
  Get Copyists Helper, already!  Seriously.  These workarounds are
  clever, I'll admit, but none of them approach the simplicity and
  usefulness of Robert's plugin.
 
  - Darcy
 
 
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Re: [Finale] OT Giant Steps

2005-03-22 Thread Brad Beyenhof
Oddly, I can't see that page. I keep getting a michalevy.com cannot
be found error, even if I put www. at the front. I've tried in
Firefox (OSX and XP), Safari (OSX), and Camino (OSX) to no avail.

Too bad... it sounded like it would have been great!

-Brad


On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:24:08 -0500, Christopher Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For those who are fans of John Coltrane, check out this animation. So
 simple, yet he really seems to hear the piece the way I think a lot of
 jazz musicians might hear it. It's kind of like a Fantasia (the movie)
 treatment for jazz nuts.
 
 http://michalevy.com/gs_download.html
 
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Re: [Finale] OT Giant Steps

2005-03-22 Thread Christopher Smith
Try going to
michalevy.com
and click on Giant Steps animation.
Christopher
On Mar 22, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Oddly, I can't see that page. I keep getting a michalevy.com cannot
be found error, even if I put www. at the front. I've tried in
Firefox (OSX and XP), Safari (OSX), and Camino (OSX) to no avail.
Too bad... it sounded like it would have been great!
-Brad
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:24:08 -0500, Christopher Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For those who are fans of John Coltrane, check out this animation. So
simple, yet he really seems to hear the piece the way I think a lot of
jazz musicians might hear it. It's kind of like a Fantasia (the movie)
treatment for jazz nuts.
http://michalevy.com/gs_download.html
Christopher
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Re: [Finale] OT Giant Steps

2005-03-22 Thread Christopher Smith
You also need Flash player. If you don't have it, that might be the 
problem.

Christopher
On Mar 22, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
Oddly, I can't see that page. I keep getting a michalevy.com cannot
be found error, even if I put www. at the front. I've tried in
Firefox (OSX and XP), Safari (OSX), and Camino (OSX) to no avail.
Too bad... it sounded like it would have been great!
-Brad
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:24:08 -0500, Christopher Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For those who are fans of John Coltrane, check out this animation. So
simple, yet he really seems to hear the piece the way I think a lot of
jazz musicians might hear it. It's kind of like a Fantasia (the movie)
treatment for jazz nuts.
http://michalevy.com/gs_download.html
Christopher
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Re: [Finale] Re: OS X 10.4 Tiger

2005-03-22 Thread Eric Dussault
Le 05-03-22, à 13:33, Paul Hayden a écrit :
I just hope a dual-2.5 GHz Power Mac G5 with Finale 2005 or 2006 will 
perform EPS exports at a decent speed without that stupid font warning 
window (fixed in Fin05, I hope).
No. it isn't fixed.
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Re: [Finale] OT Giant Steps

2005-03-22 Thread Brad Beyenhof
No, the problem is that my browsers can't even connect to that server.
Maybe it's just the network at the office; I'll try again when I get
home.

-Brad


On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:03:47 -0500, Christopher Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try going to
 
 michalevy.com
 
 and click on Giant Steps animation.
 
 Christopher
 
 
 On Mar 22, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
 
  Oddly, I can't see that page. I keep getting a michalevy.com cannot
  be found error, even if I put www. at the front. I've tried in
  Firefox (OSX and XP), Safari (OSX), and Camino (OSX) to no avail.
 
  Too bad... it sounded like it would have been great!
 
  -Brad
 
 
  On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:24:08 -0500, Christopher Smith
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For those who are fans of John Coltrane, check out this animation. So
  simple, yet he really seems to hear the piece the way I think a lot of
  jazz musicians might hear it. It's kind of like a Fantasia (the movie)
  treatment for jazz nuts.
 
  http://michalevy.com/gs_download.html
 
  Christopher
 
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Re: [Finale] OT Giant Steps

2005-03-22 Thread Kurt Gnos
Very nice! Simple but nice!
Kurt
At 21:24 22.03.2005, you wrote:
For those who are fans of John Coltrane, check out this animation. So 
simple, yet he really seems to hear the piece the way I think a lot of 
jazz musicians might hear it. It's kind of like a Fantasia (the movie) 
treatment for jazz nuts.

http://michalevy.com/gs_download.html
Christopher
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Re: [Finale] OT Giant Steps

2005-03-22 Thread Brad Beyenhof
Aha! Tried again, and it inexplicably came up!

Good stuff... I enjoyed it. Very accurate visual depiction of the sound.

Brad


On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:41:34 +0100, Kurt Gnos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Very nice! Simple but nice!
 
 Kurt
 
 At 21:24 22.03.2005, you wrote:
 For those who are fans of John Coltrane, check out this animation. So
 simple, yet he really seems to hear the piece the way I think a lot of
 jazz musicians might hear it. It's kind of like a Fantasia (the movie)
 treatment for jazz nuts.
 
 http://michalevy.com/gs_download.html
 
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RE: [Finale] OT Giant Steps

2005-03-22 Thread Crystal Premo
Wonderful!
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From: Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: [Finale] OT Giant Steps
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:24:08 -0500
For those who are fans of John Coltrane, check out this animation. So 
simple, yet he really seems to hear the piece the way I think a lot of jazz 
musicians might hear it. It's kind of like a Fantasia (the movie) treatment 
for jazz nuts.

http://michalevy.com/gs_download.html
Christopher
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[Finale] OT: %$@*!! Word

2005-03-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi all,
This is something that's been bothering me for a long time, and I 
thought I'd ask the list if there's any solution:

How do I PERMANENTLY get rid of the damn Adobe Acrobat PDF Maker 
Toolbar in Word (v11.1 for Mac OS X)?

If I go to Tools - Customize - Customize Toolbars Menus, I can 
UNcheck the stupid Adobe Acrobat toolbar -- or even delete it but that 
only lasts until I quit Word.  When I launch it again, it's back.  Gah.

I never asked for this toolbar in the first place, and I can't seem to 
figure out how to banish it.

- Darcy
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Re: [Finale] OT: %$@*!! Word

2005-03-22 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:51:12 -0500, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I never asked for this toolbar in the first place, and I can't seem to
 figure out how to banish it.

Found at:
http://macobserver.com/columns/rantsandraves/2004/20040709.shtml

You can remove it (from Office 2004) by deleting the following files:

/Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office/Startup/Excel/PDFMaker.xla

/Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office/Startup/PowerPoint/PDFMaker.ppa

/Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office/Startup/Word/PDFMaker.dot 

HTH...

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Re: [Finale] OT: %$@*!! Word

2005-03-22 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 4:01 PM -0800 3/22/05, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
You can remove it (from Office 2004) by deleting the following files:


Easy to do and it works! Thanks.

Shortcut - copy the file name at the end of each file reference - just copy
PDFMaker.xla from /Applications/Microsoft Office
2004/Office/Startup/Excel/PDFMaker.xla, and paste it into the Finder's
Find fiels (Command-F). The down arrow to select it, Command-Delete to
trash it, and Command-Shift-Delete to empty the Trash. I'd been wondering
about that, which takes up too much space, and it's redundant anyway with
OS X's PDF printing capability.

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Re: [Finale] OT: %$@*!! Word

2005-03-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
Thanks, Brad.  I owe you one.  (I shoulda asked years ago!)
- Darcy
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On 22 Mar 2005, at 7:01 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:51:12 -0500, Darcy James Argue 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I never asked for this toolbar in the first place, and I can't seem to
figure out how to banish it.
Found at:
http://macobserver.com/columns/rantsandraves/2004/20040709.shtml
You can remove it (from Office 2004) by deleting the following files:
/Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office/Startup/Excel/PDFMaker.xla
/Applications/Microsoft Office 
2004/Office/Startup/PowerPoint/PDFMaker.ppa

/Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office/Startup/Word/PDFMaker.dot 
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Re: [Finale] OT: %$@*!! Word

2005-03-22 Thread Brad Beyenhof
Eh, you just owe me for the five minutes it took me to refine my
Google search to 'remove PDF Maker toolbar os-x'.

By the way, that search incorporated my two favorite little-known
Google tricks (this thread is OT, so I can talk about whatever I want!
:-P):

1. Adding a hyphen between terms (as in os-x) searches for the terms
both together and separate (i.e. both osx and os x are found).
Since there is little regularity across the Internet in whether to
spell OSX with a space, I find this trick invaluable when looking
for info about the Mac operating system and other sometimes-compound
words.

2. Reordering words. I originally had remove at the end of the
search string since I added it late in the tweaking, but the order of
the search terms defines what bits of the page are displayed below the
page title (usually only the first three words or so get shown in that
preview). By keeping the most important terms at the beginning, I can
pre-screen my results for applicability by looking at the context in
which these words are used.

We now return to your regularly-scheduled programming... :)

-Brad


On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:12:34 -0500, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, Brad.  I owe you one.  (I shoulda asked years ago!)

 - Darcy
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 Brooklyn, NY

 On 22 Mar 2005, at 7:01 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote:

  On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:51:12 -0500, Darcy James Argue
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I never asked for this toolbar in the first place, and I can't seem to
  figure out how to banish it.
 
  Found at:
  http://macobserver.com/columns/rantsandraves/2004/20040709.shtml
 
  You can remove it (from Office 2004) by deleting the following files:
 
  /Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office/Startup/Excel/PDFMaker.xla
 
  /Applications/Microsoft Office
  2004/Office/Startup/PowerPoint/PDFMaker.ppa
 
  /Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office/Startup/Word/PDFMaker.dot 
 
  HTH...
 
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Re: [Finale] OT Giant Steps

2005-03-22 Thread Raymond Horton
Christopher Smith wrote:
For those who are fans of John Coltrane, check out this animation. So 
simple, yet he really seems to hear the piece the way I think a lot of 
jazz musicians might hear it. It's kind of like a Fantasia (the movie) 
treatment for jazz nuts.

http://michalevy.com/gs_download.html
Tremendous!  Enjoyed that immensely!
Raymond Horton
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[Finale] Incorrectly Printing Articulation (?)

2005-03-22 Thread Neal Gittleman
Hi...
Question for those way more font-knowledgable than me...
I'm trying to extrapolate something in a score which may or not have 
been printed in Finale (I suspect maybe not).  There's a pizzicato note 
(violin double-stop A-E -- open string A and E) that has to the left of 
each note an upside-down capital letter A.  I suspect it's some kind of 
articulation symbol that hasn't been properly rendered by the printer.  
Any ideas what would have printed if it was interpreted correctly?

ng
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Re: [Finale] Incorrectly Printing Articulation (?)

2005-03-22 Thread John Bell
I don't have any special font-knowledge, and I can't find an 
upside-down A in any conventional font, but might it have have been an 
O for open strings? Or conceivably a Bartok pizz?

John
On 23 Mar 2005, at 03:59, Neal Gittleman wrote:
Hi...
Question for those way more font-knowledgable than me...
I'm trying to extrapolate something in a score which may or not have 
been printed in Finale (I suspect maybe not).  There's a pizzicato 
note (violin double-stop A-E -- open string A and E) that has to the 
left of each note an upside-down capital letter A.  I suspect it's 
some kind of articulation symbol that hasn't been properly rendered by 
the printer.  Any ideas what would have printed if it was interpreted 
correctly?

ng
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Re: [Finale] Incorrectly Printing Articulation (?)

2005-03-22 Thread John Bell
PS On reflection, since you say the inverted A is beside both notes 
it's unlikely to be an articulation -- only one instance would appear 
in that case -- so unless my earlier suggestion of O for open string is 
wrong it must me something else that applies to each of the two notes. 
Such as an unorthodox accidental? It's hard to think of something that 
would need to be applied to each note as opposed to the pair of them.

John
On 23 Mar 2005, at 03:59, Neal Gittleman wrote:
Hi...
Question for those way more font-knowledgable than me...
I'm trying to extrapolate something in a score which may or not have 
been printed in Finale (I suspect maybe not).  There's a pizzicato 
note (violin double-stop A-E -- open string A and E) that has to the 
left of each note an upside-down capital letter A.  I suspect it's 
some kind of articulation symbol that hasn't been properly rendered by 
the printer.  Any ideas what would have printed if it was interpreted 
correctly?

ng
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Re: [Finale] editing score and parts

2005-03-22 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
John Howell wrote:
But MotU seem no longer to be supporting Mosaic, despite this 
ability.  My son-in-law was smart enough to get it operable for me in 
OSX Classic, so I can (for the moment) still access hundreds of my 
scores, but soon I'll inevitably lose them.  Dennis' fear of losing 
access to Finale is NOT paranoid!
If Dennis' fear was losing access to Sibelius, his fear would not be 
paranoid, as S~ keeps the data file structure proprietary information.  
Finale has made the data file structure open, which is why not only can 
S~ read ~.etf files, but they can be converted to Lilypond, as well.  
The ability of Finale to write ~.etf, and the fact that file structures 
are open, is why I consider Dennis'  fear of losing access to the data 
in ~.etf files, to be, is if not paranoid, at least coming very close to 
it. 

If one uses ~.etf as the primary storage format for Finale data files, 
one will not lose access to the data in the files.
As far as I can tell, neither Sibelius, nor the other competitors of 
Finale provide the same capability.

ns
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