Re: [fink-core] upgrade process for big sur/dpkg1.16

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 02:42, Hanspeter Niederstrasser  
> wrote:
> 
> What's the upgrade process for the dpkg1.16 branch and the dists tree?
> 
> Several packages are now essential (e.g. time-date-pm and xz) and will have 
> to be moved from their present subfolders in dists to 'base'. Also, some base 
> packages have newer versions than what's in the dpkg1.16 branch source (e.g. 
> libiconv and texinfo). But the dpkg1.16 branch versions have needed changes 
> that might be incompatible with older fink installs, so we can't just copy 
> what's currently in dist to the dpkg1.16 branch, or push the dpkg1.16 branch 
> versions directly into dists. Or are dpkg1.16 packages compatible with legacy 
> dpkg?
> 
> Hanspeter
> 
> 


At minimum, the most logical thing to do would be to update libiconv, texinfo, 
et. al. in the dpkg1.16 branch and also apply the branch-specific changes - 
i.e. merge them in a logical sense if not in a Git sense.  I hate to say it, 
but this might be a case for a new distro and clean reinstall rather than 
update in place.  I know we just did that for Catalina, but my impression is 
that Big Sur is going to change a bunch of stuff.

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Re: [fink-core] Criteria (both man and machine) for a replacement for the mirror volunteer? Re: [Fink-users] Is Fink alive? (fwd)

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Mar 14, 2019, at 05:44, Glenn Forbes Fleming Larratt  
> wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> Are you seeking a volunteer or volunteers to replace the individual who no 
> longer can maintain the Fink mirrors?
> 
> If so, what are the criteria/requirements - both for the person and the 
> necessary system(s) - for such a volunteer? I am tentatively interested.
> 
> Thank You,
> --
> Glenn Forbes Fleming Larratt
> Cornell University IT Security Office
> 
> -- Forwarded message ------
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2019 04:03:56 +
> From: Alexander Hansen 
> To: Glenn Forbes Fleming Larratt 
> Subject: Re: [Fink-users] Is Fink alive?
> 
> I’d say email fink-core@lists.sourceforge.net and ask.  There aren’t any 
> specific technical requirements.
>  Knowledge of how administer the machine(s) to handle problems is important.
>  On Mar 7, 2019, at 08:53, Glenn Forbes Fleming Larratt 
>  wrote:
> 
> Apologies for the typoe - that should say "technical info", not "technical 
> issue".
> 
> -g
> --
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> 


Sorry for the delay in passing this on.  I’ve been in a major crunch at work 
for a couple of weeks and list moderation fell by the wayside.



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[fink-core] fink-0.44.1 tagged

[Alexander Hansen]

Hey, folks.

I’ve tagged a bugfix fink-0.44.1, mainly because bzip2 is currently busted for 
bootstrap.

I’m too tired to do a release tonight, but I should be able to swing it 
tomorrow sometime unless somebody beats me to it.

—Alex

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[fink-core] Backup website proposal

[Alexander Hansen]

Hi, folks.

If for some reason we have any downtime in getting our existing website 
infrastructure deployed, I’d like to propose using the website functionality on 
GitHub to set up a reduced interim version.

Honestly, if we didn’t need the PDB, I’d rather use that as our main website 
because it’s way more user-friendly.  With our current setup you can only 
preview any changes you make as an editor if you have a PHP stack set up on 
your machine.  That’s a big ask for a lot of workplaces, especially when folks 
are on Windows or are restricted in what they can install.  I’d much rather 
work with a browser-based editor that works anywhere and where I can preview my 
changes immediately.

--akh

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Re: [fink-core] web (old) vs website (current) repo

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jan 28, 2019, at 03:24, Hanspeter Niederstrasser  
> wrote:
> 
> in Github, we currently have the 'website' repo that's the up to date version 
> of our website and docs. There's also a 'web' repo that's a "temporary and 
> incomplete" conversion of the old CVS web module. Is there any reason to keep 
> the old 'web' repo?
> 
> https://github.com/fink/web <- old
> https://github.com/fink/website <- new
> 
> Hanspeter
> 
> 

I can’t think of a compelling reason to keep that around, no.

—Akh



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Re: [fink-core] Merge #166 ?

[Alexander Hansen]

If the web UI works like it does in GitLab, what might happen is that your 
changes get sent to a new branch if you don’t have write privileges to the 
branch.  However, in GitLab admins can redirect merge requests to alternate 
branches, so it’s probably best not to assume too much.

I’m going to have some Fink time due to unforeseen and unpleasant 
circumstances, so I can do a release and document the procedure I follow once 
we’re ready.

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From: Hanspeter Niederstrasser
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 2:11 AM
To: Alexander Hansen; fink-core
Subject: Re: [fink-core] Merge #166 ?

On 12/11/18 11:14 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
> I was thinking that it might help us if we do the aforementioned merge to 
> facilitate community testing, etc.
> 
> -akh

I'm OK with that. TheSin said he'd added a couple local changes on top 
of jwhowarth's pull and been running OK with them. I *think* it might be 
possible to edit the files via the web interface even though the pull 
comes from jwhowarth's clone. I know I can see the edit pencil icon, but 
I haven't tried to actually save a change.

Might be good to have those changes then merge, or just merge as is and 
then ask TheSin to make a pull for his changes and merge them quickly.

Hanspeter

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[fink-core] Merge #166 ?

[Alexander Hansen]

I was thinking that it might help us if we do the aforementioned merge to 
facilitate community testing, etc.

-akh

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Re: [fink-core] CVS support at SourceForge and Nov. 30

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Dec 1, 2017, at 09:05, Alexander Hansen <alexanderk.han...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2017, at 05:35, Max Horn <m...@quendi.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> 
>> SF.net meant to disable CVS commits yesterday, but it seems they have not 
>> yet (at least I was just able to commit something).
>> 
>> 
>> I have been badly out of the loop, but: is anybody working on a transition 
>> plan? It seems high time for one, no? It seems we need at least this, in 
>> order:
>> 
>> 1. A fink release with selfupdate-git or -svn support (done!)
>> 
> 
> It’s in master but a release hasn’t been tagged yet.
> 
>> 2. A full migration of the CVS repository to SVN or GIT (status?)
>>   and disable write access to the CVS repository for everybody (except for 
>> handful of admins, so they can perform the next step)
>> 
> 
> I’m not sure what the repository status is.  
> 
> I would like folks to stop using *just* IRC and also record issues and the 
> like on github.com/fink/fink so that we don’t have to rely on people’s 
> memories, fragile IRC bots, or people being logged in to IRC all the time (I 
> don’t even open my laptop when I get home some days). 
> 
> I just sent out a message with a soft freeze announcement.  I’ll adjust 
> CVSROOT later on.
> 
>> 3. A fink release (with an .info file in the CVS repository) which disables 
>> selfupdate-cvs, and instead prompts the user to switch to the -git or -svn 
>> variant.
>> 
> 
> And how, exactly, should this be done?  A diff or PR against current master 
> would be great.  I don’t have a lot of focused time or available CPUs on my 
> machine most workdays, so it’s hard to look into the code, make 
> modifications, and spin up test update cases.  
> 
>> Ideally, around step 2, all maintainers would be notified how to access the 
>> new distribution, I guess?
>> 
> 
> Also:
> 
> 4.  The rsync mirrors need to switch from using the CVS repository to using 
> GitHub as the basis for updates.
> 
>> Is anybody working on this? If not, once CVS write access is down for good, 
>> I fear lots of Fink users will be stranded and will require manual work to 
>> migrate to git/svn.
>> 
> 
> IMO it was a bit of a jerk move for SF.net to schedule it this way, since US 
> people are just barely back up to speed after Thanksgiving. That being said, 
> I slept for quite a bit of the holiday weekend because I needed to do that.  
> 
> 
> Honestly, lots of Fink users strand themselves by updating their OSes before 
> updating Fink, so we’re used to that.  The specter of user inconvenience 
> doesn’t add more productive hours to my day, unfortunately.
> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Max
> 
> 

Well, so much for that idea.  It took effect.  We’re down to only pserver 
checkouts :

I guess our update strategy is now:

1)  For people using /sw, use “apt-get install fink” to get a new fink, for 
distributions where we’re currently building a bindist.
2)  For other folks, grab the appropriate fink*.info file from GitHub or inject 
from master or the 0.43 branch when that goes live.

That’ll make testing a bit easier, since there won’t be a direct upgrade path.
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[fink-core] CVS commit freeze effective immediately

[Alexander Hansen]

Since SourceForge.net was supposed to disable writes to the CVS repository any 
day now.  Based on this I’m declaring a soft freeze on CVS commits.  

Please wait to update any non-base packages until we get the git distribution 
fully up and running.
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[fink-core] Time to de-emphasize SourceForge

[Alexander Hansen]

1)  We no longer have the ability to remove locks from CVS.
2)  They’ve reduced our ability to administer our mailing lists—the list owner 
can’t even remove users any more.

I’d be OK with having users report bugs via issues on GitHub rather than via 
the mailing list, especially since we’ll be able to associate them directly 
with the relevant .info and .patch files once we get the distribution up and 
running there.

I’m still OK with using SourceForge to host our tarballs.

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Re: [fink-core] cvs currently broken

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 28, 2017, at 16:20, Daniel Johnson  wrote:
> 
> I can’t cvs update. The old stale lock problem:
> cvs update: [23:12:34] waiting for thesin’s lock in 
> /cvsroot/fink/dists/10.9-libcxx/stable/main/finkinfo/net
> It’s been going on for a while. Unfortunately, when I tried to use adminrepo 
> --unlock cvs from the shell (which always used to work) I just got a message 
> that adminrepo is no longer supported and basically that we should switch to 
> git/hg/svn. I’m not sure what to do at this point. :( I tried searching the 
> repo from the shell for a cvs lock file but couldn’t find one.
> 
> Daniel
> 

Yeah, I’m not sure what to do, since the last time we had this issue I used 
adminrepo.  I’d be in favor of contacting Sourceforge and seeing if they can 
fix it for now, and then moving to git ASAP.

—Alex



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Re: [fink-core] dpkg build failure on 10.13

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 28, 2017, at 15:28, Daniel Johnson  wrote:
> 
> While updating to dpkg 1.10.21-1246 on 10.13 I get the following error:
> 
> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/make  -C "scripts" "all"
> sed -e "s:^#![:space:]*/usr/bin/perl:#! /usr/bin/perl:; \
>   
> s:\$dpkglibdir[[:space:]]*=[[:space:]]*['\"][^'\"]*['\"]:\$dpkglibdir=\"/sw/lib/dpkg\":;
>  \
>   
> s:\$admindir[[:space:]]*=[[:space:]]*['\"][^'\"]*['\"]:\$admindir=\"/sw/var/lib/dpkg\":;
>  \
>   
> s:\$version[[:space:]]*=[[:space:]]*['\"][^'\"]*[\"']:\$version=\"1.10.21\":" 
> \
>   < cl-debian.pl > cl-debian
> sed: character class syntax is [[:space:]], not [:space:]
> 
> I’m not sure where that’s coming from. It doesn’t seem to be from the recent 
> changes.
> 
> Daniel
> 
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Which sed are you using?

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[fink-core] Unresolved ccfits maintainer email address

[Alexander Hansen]

Just so that we don’t lose track:

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Mail Delivery System" <mailer-dae...@iron2.hll.mpg.de>
> Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
> Date: November 7, 2016 at 09:08:42 PST
> To: alexanderk.han...@gmail.com
> 
> The following message to <t...@hll.mpg.de> was undeliverable.
> The reason for the problem:
> 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 <t...@hll.mpg.de>... User unknown'
> Reporting-MTA: dns; iron2.hll.mpg.de
> 
> Final-Recipient: rfc822;t...@hll.mpg.de
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.0.0 (permanent failure)
> Remote-MTA: dns; [134.107.106.50]
> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-'5.1.1 
> <t...@hll.mpg.de>... User unknown' (delivery attempts: 0)
> 
> From: Alexander Hansen <alexanderk.han...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fink-users] build of ccfits fails
> Date: November 7, 2016 at 09:08:22 PST
> To: Daniel Gruen <dgr...@stanford.edu>
> Cc: fink-users <fink-us...@lists.sourceforge.net>, t...@hll.mpg.de
> Reply-To: fink-users <fink-us...@lists.sourceforge.net>
> 
> 

When fixing ccfits (-users) we should probably unmaintain this.  If the listed 
maintainer wants the package then that can always be adjusted.




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Re: [fink-core] New openssl location

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 10:53, Max Horn <m...@quendi.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> On 26 Sep 2016, at 13:44, Daniel Johnson <daniel.johnso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> There is a new OpenSSL libversion out, 1.1.0. I’ve made a new package but 
>> want to check with everyone else where I should put it, base or crypto. It 
>> does have a new BuildDepends, text-template-pm, so that would have to move 
>> to base too. Also note that not everything will be able to use it right 
>> away. There have been a lot of changes to the API (removed functions, 
>> structs made opaque, new threading model) so other packages usually need 
>> changes to work with it. Opinions?
> 
> Why would we put this into base? The (naive) logical approach would be to put 
> it into crypto, and thus also leave text-template-pm out of base.
> 
> I don't say there are no good reasons for putting it into base/, but if there 
> are, they should be named explicitly.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Max
> 

Checking the commits history, it looks like openssl100 is in base because we 
_thought_ that cvs needed it, but it actually didn’t.  

http://fink.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fink/dists/10.7/stable/main/finkinfo/base/cvs.info?view=log

With that not actually the case, I don’t see a compelling reason to put the 
newer libversion there.
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Re: [fink-core] New openssl location

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 26, 2016, at 04:44, Daniel Johnson  wrote:
> 
> There is a new OpenSSL libversion out, 1.1.0. I’ve made a new package but 
> want to check with everyone else where I should put it, base or crypto. It 
> does have a new BuildDepends, text-template-pm, so that would have to move to 
> base too. Also note that not everything will be able to use it right away. 
> There have been a lot of changes to the API (removed functions, structs made 
> opaque, new threading model) so other packages usually need changes to work 
> with it. Opinions?
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 

I’d be OK with leaving the legacy openssl in base/ to satisfy cvs and putting 
the new one back in crypto/ , but I haven’t really thought any deeper about the 
ramifications.

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Re: [fink-core] Expat at Fink / Expat 2.2.0 has been released

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jun 22, 2016, at 08:45, Sebastian Pipping <sebast...@pipping.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi there!
> 
> 
> Just a quick heads up that Expat 2.2.0 has been released and
> your distro could be among the very first to ship it
> 
> According to [1], the Fink project is missing out on Expat 2.1.1 and
> several important security fixes already, 5 vulnerabilities with CVEs as
> it seems.
> 
> If there is need for patching anything new downstream, I would love
> teaming up with you integrating changes upstream so you can resolve the
> patch downstream with the next release.
> 
> Best
> 
> 
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> 
> PS: Please let me know who to contact on Expat in the future for
>(a) regular updates and (b) security issues.
> 
> 
> [1] http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/expat1 
> <http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/expat1>

The fink-core list is fine for both regular updates and security issues.  

I’ve put packaging up at 
https://sourceforge.net/p/fink/package-submissions/4702/ 
<https://sourceforge.net/p/fink/package-submissions/4702/> for evaluation.
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Re: [fink-core] [Fink-users] apt-get-lockwait update hangs every time

[Alexander Hansen]

CC’ing the proper chain of command.  I don’t really feel like speaking for the 
entire project in private discussion.

> On May 30, 2016, at 12:32, Ian Boardman  wrote:
> 
> Dear Alexander,
>   I have no network problem reaching fink project servers from my Mac via my 
> Comcast ISP.  I have no problem manually running curl (for example) on 
> bindist.finkproject.org  to download binary 
> packages. I can only conclude from everything you've suggested and everything 
> I've tried and examined that there is something fundamentally flawed in the 
> apt-get package we have. It does not produce error messages either on the 
> terminal nor in any log files that will help diagnose this problem. I could 
> guess there is a configuration error somewhere or an inaccessible parameter 
> that needs to change or a buried failure in communicating with Mac OS system 
> network functions that never happens on other Linux based systems.

Bit of pedantry here:  OS X is not a “Linux based system”.  It’s barely a 
BSD-based system, in spite of how it was initially marketed.

> But there is definitely something very wrong that shouldn't be happening 
> without error reporting. I admit to lacking the skill to dig in further but 
> I'm convinced this is not some weirdness with my MacBook on my Comcast 
> network, and I can't believe I would be the only one with this problem. I 
> honestly feel this deserves more attention from those who have the skill.
> 
> Thanks for all you and your comrades do to make Fink available to free 
> loaders like myself.
> Best regards,
>   Ian Boardman
>  


How is it "fundamentally flawed?"  It works for most everybody, and has for 
more than a decade, as far as we know based on the lack of bug reports.  I 
can’t exclude the possibility that 99.9% of people who try Fink can’t get 
downloading via apt-get to work and move on without saying anything, of course, 
but that doesn’t seem likely.   There was a message today (which might have 
prompted your own message) from somebody who experienced the same problem, but 
you two are the only folks to report such issue that I’ve seen within the past 
few years (I haven’t checked my logs to see whether there has been such a 
report further back in the past).

There are a few things that I know of which aren’t always reported in people’s 
error messages which can derail things:

1) Root method.  We’ve had problems with some operations (usually build rather 
than download) when folks have acquired root access by means other than the 
built-in “sudo” from the system, since these aren’t as well tested.

2)  Messing with the system tools.  apt-get lockwait is a perl script and in 
principle _might_ not work properly against perl’s other than the system 
version.  However, if running “apt-get” by itself has the same problem, this 
can be excluded.

3)  Third party tools.  Some packagers don’t necessarily encapsulate everything 
nicely in an app bundle and will install libraries in system-visible locations 
without necessarily mentioning that fact up front.  I believe folks have also 
reported some network-related problems due to third-party tools in the past, 
but I haven’t actually checked the list archives to confirm this.

4)  Environment variables—related to 3).  Some third-party packagers also will 
have you set environment variables to run their apps, and not always 
appropriately.  A well-known issue is using DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH, which actually 
overrides the normal linker lookups.  That can cause Fink-built executables to 
look for libraries in non-Fink locations.  Alternatively, one can give another 
location precedence over Fink’s tree.
So, for apt-get, the relevant items are:

$ otool -L /sw/bin/apt-get
/sw/bin/apt-get:

/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation 
(compatibility version 150.0.0, current version 1152.0.0)
/sw/lib/libapt-pkg.3.2.dylib (compatibility version 3.2.0, current 
version 3.2.0)
/usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
120.0.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
version 1213.0.0)

$ otool -L /sw/lib/libapt-pkg.3.2.dylib
/sw/lib/libapt-pkg.3.2.dylib:
/sw/lib/libapt-pkg.3.2.dylib (compatibility version 3.2.0, current 
version 3.2.0)

/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation 
(compatibility version 150.0.0, current version 1152.0.0)
/usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
120.0.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
version 1213.0.0)

and if you have a *_LIBRARY_PATH variable set in your shell that points to a 
third-party libc++.1.dylib, that could potentially cause apt-get not to 
function properly.

5)  System tool settings.  Firewall?  I’m honestly not sure on that.  

6)  ISP/local network settings.  apt uses ports 53 and 

Re: [fink-core] apt-shlibs-0.5.4-1061

[Alexander Hansen]

> On May 12, 2016, at 02:21, Scott Trager <sctra...@astro.rug.nl> wrote:
> 
> Feedback: not good
> 
> --
> Package manager version: 0.39.3
> Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Thu May 12 10:31:02 2016, 10.10, x86_64
> Mac OS X version: 10.10.5
> Unable to determine Developer Tools version
> gcc version: 7.0.2 (clang-700.1.81)
> make version: 3.81
> Feedback Courtesy of FinkCommander
> 


Debug information:  essentially nonexistent.

We can’t help you solve this without seeing some output from a build.  Fink 
Commander’s feedback is pretty minimal—all we get is what you see above.
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Re: [fink-core] bzip2-dev-1.0.6-1

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> On May 12, 2016, at 02:21, Scott Trager <sctra...@astro.rug.nl> wrote:
> 
> Feedback: not good
> 
> --
> Package manager version: 0.39.3
> Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Thu May 12 10:31:02 2016, 10.10, x86_64
> Mac OS X version: 10.10.5
> Unable to determine Developer Tools version
> gcc version: 7.0.2 (clang-700.1.81)
> make version: 3.81
> Feedback Courtesy of FinkCommander

Debug information:  essentially nonexistent.

We can’t help you solve this without seeing some output from a build.  Fink 
Commander’s feedback is pretty minimal—all we get is what you see above.
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Re: [fink-core] Updates regarding ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de

[Alexander Hansen]

I don’t do much with the mirrors, but I do have a comment.  Hopefully other 
folks will comment as appropriate.

> On Jan 23, 2016, at 05:15, Carsten Otto <o...@informatik.rwth-aachen.de> 
> wrote:
> 



> [pushes]
> If possible, we'd like to be notified about updates to your repository,
> instead of frequently checking via rsync. If sending SSH-triggers or
> directly uploading the data via rsync is a valid option for your
> project, please get into touch with us.
> 

In principle we might be able to do an rsync push, though it would likely still 
be periodic from our end.   We periodically check for (asynchronous) updates in 
our SourceForge CVS repository and update our rsync repository accordingly, so 
a remote push operation as an addition seems like it would fit.

<snip?

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Re: [fink-core] Correct contact address?

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> On Jan 21, 2016, at 13:20, Carsten Otto <o...@informatik.rwth-aachen.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Fink team,
> 
> I did not receive any reply in the past few days. Are both lists dead?
> Is anyone reading this? Do you have a contact address suitable for a
> faster response time?
> 
> Best regards,
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> http://verify.rwth-aachen.de/otto/ <http://verify.rwth-aachen.de/otto/>

Nope.  Since you’re not actually subscribed to the lists you’re at the mercy of 
the (unpaid) list moderator’s schedule.   

Anyway, either -mirrors or -core should be fine, though we really need to get a 
few more team members subscribed to (or at least to read—I’d forgotten it even 
existed) the former.
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Re: [fink-core] Correct contact address?

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> On Jan 21, 2016, at 13:46, Carsten Otto <o...@informatik.rwth-aachen.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Alexander,
> 
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 01:43:20PM -0800, Alexander Hansen wrote:
>> Nope.  Since you’re not actually subscribed to the lists you’re at the
>> mercy of the (unpaid) list moderator’s schedule.   
> 
> Ah, aren't we all unpaid :)
> 
> Still, I'd love to get some support for mirroring your project. I don't
> want to sound too demanding, but I'd like to mention this wish at least.
> Its really necessary, at least in certain rare cases, to keep this
> working.
> 
>> Anyway, either -mirrors or -core should be fine, though we really need
>> to get a few more team members subscribed to (or at least to read—I’d
>> forgotten it even existed) the former.
> 
> I don't like subscribing to lists I don't want to read - I prefer
> sending a mail and letting you read it. Is there some other address I
> can/should use? Maybe a bunch of private addresses? mir...@fink.org?
> Most other projects have this, and it works perfectly as far as I am
> concerned.
> 
> Best regards,
> Carsten
> -- 
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> http://verify.rwth-aachen.de/otto/ <http://verify.rwth-aachen.de/otto/>

We don’t have such a thing, and I dislike when people send me email about Fink 
stuff directly rather than going through the mailing lists, because there isn’t 
an archive.  
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Re: [fink-core] apt-get-lockout hangs in every case

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Jan 14, 2016, at 07:04, Ian Boardman <isb0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Alexander,
>   I am running Mac OS X 10.11 (El Capitan). I know you are still in 
> development on that. In any case, from reading various discussion threads 
> (some you are in) that directly refer to apt-get hanging, and trying every 
> suggestion on how to deal with this kind of situation, including starting 
> from scratch with fink-0.32.2.tar.gz, I am under the impression it is 
> unrelated to the OS version, but rather is only tied to apt-get itself. I've 
> read all about this tool and am surprised that there seems to be no way to 
> get debugging or diagnostic output turn up to the point where it would report 
> what exactly it is trying to do when it hangs. All I see is "0% [Working]" 
> where it hangs forever. I haven't touched the apt/sources.list, I checked 
> that my computer can reach bindist.finkmirrors.net 
> <http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/> and that I can see what is in 
> http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/10.11/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/ 
> <http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/10.11/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/>.
>  So, do you know anything more about about apt-get that might help with this 
> problem? Thanks for all your work, your time and assistance.
> Regards,
>   Ian Boardman
> 

Please don’t contact me personally about stuff like this—which doesn’t involve 
a package for which I am the listed maintainer.  That’s why the Fink project 
has mailing lists (where subscribing isn’t mandatory), an IRC channel, etc. — 
to provide a *public* record of discussions and issues to help improve the 
project and so that others can benefit.  I’m redirecting the conversation to 
the fink-core mailing list because you are having an issue with a core package. 
 

My guess, based on the symptoms, is that perhaps your network setup uses a 
proxy and that your Fink configuration isn’t set up to match that.   If this is 
a work network then check with your network administrator.  Are you able to 
download package sources (e.g. via “fink fetch ”)?  If not, that 
also suggests a network configuration issue.  “fink configure” will allow you 
to change the proxy configuration and apt-get uses that information.

There are workarounds available as well.
1)  Since you can reach 
http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/10.11/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/ 
<http://bindist.finkmirrors.net/10.11/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/> 
in a browser, you can probably actually download the package .deb files from 
there directly.  Once you’ve done that, you can use “sudo dpkg -i 
” (that is, use the relative or absolute path to the file 
you just downloaded.  The one drawback is that dependencies aren’t handled 
automatically.

2)  If you also aren’t able to fetch package sources, you can download the 
sources using a browser and put them in /sw/src (if your Fink tree is /sw).  

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Re: [fink-core] [Fink-beginners] can not install any package.

[Alexander Hansen]

> On Sep 27, 2015, at 22:25, Oner Sufri <oner.su...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I currently deleted oldest version of Fink and installed the latest version, 
> 0.38.7. The installation was smooth without any problems. However when I try 
> to install some of the packages I needed. I ended getting this specific error 
> for all my fails.
> 
>autoreconf -fi  
>/sw/bin/autopoint: line 454: xz: command not found
>tar: This does not look like a tar archive
>tar: gettext-0.19.3: Not found in archive
>tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
>autopoint: *** infrastructure files for version 0.19.3 not found; this is 
> autopoint from GNU gettext-tools 0.19.5.1
>autopoint: *** Stop.
>autoreconf: autopoint failed with exit status: 1
>### execution of autoreconf failed, exit code 1
>### execution of /tmp/fink.0nHgc failed, exit code 1
>Removing runtime build-lock...
>Removing build-lock package...
>/sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-libidn-1.32-3
>(Reading database ... 16838 files and directories currently installed.)
>Removing fink-buildlock-libidn-1.32-3 ...
>Failed: phase compiling: libidn-1.32-3 failed
> 
> I have OS 10.9.5. I would like to get some help please.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Oner Sufri
> 

It looks like the new version of gettext-tools needs the xz package to be 
installed.   Do a “fink install xz”, and that will solve the missing xz command.


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Re: [fink-core] I just created fink/fink-distributions on github as a repository for distributions

[Alexander Hansen]

snip

 Thinking further, it might be best not to get cute and just set up a 
 10.9-libc++ distribution in CVS, and then do the git migration after we club 
 all of the packages that won’t work or don’t want on ElCaveman.
 
 
 Yeah, that would be safest for now. It could be a bit much to make the new 
 dist AND switch VCS at the same time. Best to start with a known non-broken 
 state. :)
 
 Daniel

I’ll go ahead and initialize this sometime later this week, if nobody objects.


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Re: [fink-core] I just created fink/fink-distributions on github as arepository for distributions

[Alexander Hansen]

 On Jun 10, 2015, at 09:50, Daniel Macks dma...@netspace.org wrote:
 
 On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:34:05 -0700, Alexander Hansen 
 alexanderk.han...@gmail.com wrote:
 No surprise there. :-)
 
 I was going to initialize the 10.9-libc++ distribution, but then I 
 got to thinking about whether it might not be a bad plan to use a cvs 
 import of the 10.7 tree and then rename the directory, so that we can 
 preserve the history. 
 
 Thoughts?
 
 I do not support making a new distro subdir by simply cloning the old. 
 This is a great chance to prune out lots of old crap that doesn't 
 build, stop relying on system hacks like X11 symlink, stop carrying 
 forward -shlibs stub packages from old libversions, etc. However, 
 cloning the old into a holding-pen in git (preserving history) and then 
 using that for selective manual moving into the live distro still 
 within git gives us history linkage. New dist would essentially be a 
 fork or branch. 
 
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[fink-core] I just created fink/fink-distributions on github as a repository for distributions

[Alexander Hansen]

No surprise there. :-)

I was going to initialize the 10.9-libc++ distribution, but then I got to 
thinking about whether it might not be a bad plan to use a cvs import of the 
10.7 tree and then rename the directory, so that we can preserve the history.

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[fink-core] Update to dpkg-base-files to handle known cases of files that block app bundle installs:

[Alexander Hansen]

I added the following to the end of the prerm script:

…
# look for PkgInfo and other problematic app bundle files and remove them
for file in `dpkg -L $FINK_PACKAGE_NAME` ; do
if [[ $file =~ PkgInfo ]] || [[ $file =~ empty.lproj ]] 
then rm $file 
fi
done

This covers the cases that we know about.  When the package isn’t currently 
installed the prerm script isn’t triggered, so this isn’t triggered.

If we decide to go with this option, do we want only to apply it only for 10.10 
and later, or go ahead and use it for all supported OS X?


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Re: [fink-core] I just created fink/fink-distributions on github as a repository for distributions

[Alexander Hansen]

 On Jun 10, 2015, at 09:53, Alexander Hansen alexanderk.han...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 09:50, Daniel Macks dma...@netspace.org wrote:
 
 On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:34:05 -0700, Alexander Hansen 
 alexanderk.han...@gmail.com wrote:
 No surprise there. :-)
 
 I was going to initialize the 10.9-libc++ distribution, but then I 
 got to thinking about whether it might not be a bad plan to use a cvs 
 import of the 10.7 tree and then rename the directory, so that we can 
 preserve the history. 
 
 Thoughts?
 
 I do not support making a new distro subdir by simply cloning the old. 
 This is a great chance to prune out lots of old crap that doesn't 
 build, stop relying on system hacks like X11 symlink, stop carrying 
 forward -shlibs stub packages from old libversions, etc. However, 
 cloning the old into a holding-pen in git (preserving history) and then 
 using that for selective manual moving into the live distro still 
 within git gives us history linkage. New dist would essentially be a 
 fork or branch. 
 
 dan
 
 --
 Daniel Macks
 dma...@netspace.org
 
 
 
 Sure, that makes sense.

Well, maybe. ;-)  I’m not exactly sure about how this would be implemented, 
since I believe the selfupdate-git code only pulls from master.  Perhaps we’d 
have to tweak that during the development phase, and have the to-be processed 
stuff be in a non-master branch.



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Re: [fink-core] missing base filename in web/srcdist.en.php

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 On Apr 27, 2015, at 06:01, Charles Lepple clep...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On the Source Release Download page, the tarball expansion instructions are 
 missing fink- in the tar file name:
 
 followed by
 
   tar -xvf 0.38.4.tar.gz
 
 or
 
   tar -xvf 0.38.4.tar
 
 It looks like this typo slipped in when the version number was changed to a 
 PHP variable:
 
 http://fink.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/fink/web/download/srcdist.en.php?r1=1.72r2=1.73
 
 Also appears to be in srcdist.de.php.
 
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 clepple@gmail
 
 

Thanks!  A fix should show up in a few minutes.

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Re: [fink-core] udunits2-2.2.18-1 download fails

[Alexander Hansen]

 On Feb 5, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Sean Lake odysseus9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Guessing the checksum wasn’t updated?
 
 The checksum of the file is incorrect. The most likely cause for this is a
 corrupted or incomplete download
 Expected: 83110b9e8f54171283e1c6f16b437901bca691a9
 Actual: MD5(1a68c7309038ae760af5c76d23a71210)
SHA1(5e7bd0d43fe874a4b2a431b41193cffa0490768d)
 
 Thanks,
 Sean
 
 fink --version
 Package manager version: 0.38.3
 Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Thu Feb  5 19:06:24 2015, 10.9, x86_64
 Trees: local/main stable/main
 
 fink --version
 Package manager version: 0.38.3
 Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Thu Feb  5 19:05:54 2015, 10.10, x86_64
 Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto


Nope, it was updated, but incorrectly. :-)  

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Re: [fink-core] Fink 0.38.3 backported to 10.4

[Alexander Hansen]

On 1/17/15 1:52 PM, Lukas Wunner wrote:
 Hi Alexander,

 thanks for taking the time to review this. Basically I just did
 it to give my machine a new lease of life, but if there's interest
 to ship this in one way or another I'll be happy to make any
 modifications you deem necessary.


 2) The section starting with # user-defined environment variables may
 override a package-specific or fink-default value seems completely contrary
 to our intentions.  We *deliberately* don't want user variables to modify
 anything in a build.

 Yes, that's a quick and dirty patch I did back in 2007 and which lives
 in a separate commit. I shall prepare a new fink-10.4.patch sans that
 commit. Personally I use that functionality all the time because on
 this memory-challenged machine (maxed out at 1 GB) it's useful
 to selectively disable debugging symbols, strip executables and
 libraries or enable Altivec optimizations, without having to change
 .info files all the time. E.g. I was able to reduce the footprint
 of wireshark by  50% that way.


 Rather than symlinking to /usr/bin/perl, what might be better would be to
 have fink-10.4 Depend on perl5182-core, and to modify All of its its scripts
 to use %p/bin/perl5.18.2 via a PatchScript.

 How about changing #!/usr/bin/perl to #!/usr/bin/env perl in
 /sw/bin/fink and the other scripts? The user invoking fink will
 have sourced /sw/bin/init.sh so that /sw/bin is at the beginning
 of $PATH, and this will automatically select /sw/bin/perl.


 Best regards,

 Lukas


On problem with #!/usr/bin/env perl is that every Fink perl5XY package 
(not perl5XY-core) has a /sw/bin/perl , and so it might be possible to 
have a /sw/bin/perl version which isn't compatible with the current fink 
code (I don't recall what versions we have on 10.4, though).

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Re: [fink-core] dpkg-deb -Z

[Alexander Hansen]

On 12/11/14, 7:15 AM, Paarth Desai wrote:
 Hello Sir,

 I have been using Fink since I packed my first project for Cydia. I did
 try to change the compression technique dpkg-deb uses but when I use -Z
 it shows that this option not available and so I did check the manual
 and I came to know that the dpkg-deb Option for compression is not
 mention. Does it require other installation technique.

 I want to change compression form gzip to lzma. Would you please help me
 out?

 Regards,

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Re: [fink-core] [Fink-users] system-java16-dev on OSX 10.10

[Alexander Hansen]

 On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:21 AM, Sean Lake odysseus9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:13, Alexander Hansen alexanderk.han...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Sean Lake odysseus9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 On Nov 16, 2014, at 6:55, Alexander Hansen alexanderk.han...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 On Nov 15, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Sean Lake odysseus9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ok, fixed it. Installed Oracle’s Java.
 
 Sean
 
 On Nov 15, 2014, at 17:52, Sean Lake odysseus9...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I’m getting multiple packages, especially gnucash2, complaining about 
 the lack of system-java16-dev on my new mac. I’ve installed 
 java_for_os_x_2013005_dp__11m4609.dmg, but it doesn’t seem to have 
 rectified the problem. Running fink apropos java, I get:
 i  system-java 1.6.0-1 [virtual package representing Java 1.6.0]
 i  system-java16   1.6.0-1 [virtual package representing Java 1.6.0]
system-java16-dev   1.6.0-1 [virtual package representing Java 
 1.6.0 development headers]
 
 What do I need to install to get that last package?
 
 Thanks,
 Sean
 
 sudo fink install gnucash2
 Password:
 Information about 10219 packages read in 0 seconds.
 Can't resolve dependency system-java-dev for package 
 bison-legacy-2.7.1-1
 (no matching packages/versions found)
 Exiting with failure.
 
 fink --version
 Package manager version: 0.38.2
 Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Sat Nov 15 14:55:28 2014, 10.10, 
 x86_64
 Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto
 
 
 
 Sorry for the confusion here.  We have two versions of the availability 
 code for virtual packages;
 
 1)  The package shows up in the list as not installed if it isn’t detected.
 2)  The package doesn’t show up in the list at all if it isn’t detected.
 
 I prefer 2) to be used for virtual packages which are impossible to 
 install on certain OS versions, and 1) for packages which are always 
 possible to satisfy.   We might want to switch system-java-dev over to 1). 
  Option 1) has fink go through an install procedure and then gives a more 
 verbose error message, so it seems more appropriate here.
 
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 Thanks, but I don’t know if that would address the issue I was having. 
 
 In this particular case, installing Apple’s latest Java didn’t satisfy the 
 requirement for system-java16-dev. That tells me that either the detection 
 in system-java16-dev is busted, or Apple’s Java is broken in a way that 
 makes it unable to fulfill that need. If it is the latter case, it would be 
 helpful if the instructions on 10.10 were updated to specify Oracle’s Java 
 is needed.
 
 Thanks again,
 Sean
 
 The detection system worked just fine for me when last I checked it (a 
 couple of weeks ago).
 
 When you say “Apple’s latest java”, does that mean the legacy SDK?  
 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572 
 Your package list suggests not.
 
 What java is needed depends on the package.  Some packages just want _a_ 
 Java, and some won’t build using Oracle’s.  Other older packagers may want 
 system-java16 because at the time it was the newest option.
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 I installed the files available from Apple’s developer site in the dmg file 
 named: java_for_os_x_2013005_dp__11m4609.dmg . It was the newest Java 
 installer Apple had listed on developer.apple.com’s developer member site. 
 That file you linked is newer (2013–005 vs 2014-001), so I’ll install it. 
 Regardless, all of the packages I installed seemed happy with the Oracle 
 install I did.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Sean


The 2014-001 package definitely suffices for system-java16-dev.  No clue why 
it’s not listed developer.apple.com http://developer.apple.com/, but we 
definitely can be more explicit about where to get it.

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Re: [fink-core] kde x11 variant

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 On Nov 12, 2014, at 11:10 AM, Andre Reitz andre.re...@inworks.de wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 when upgrading my mac from 10.6 to 10.9 I noticed that the x11 variant of kde 
 is no more available on 10.9.
 
 Now my questions:
 - Is there a chance that somebody will reenable the x11 variant for kde?
 
 Greetings, Andre
 

This is really isn’t the appropriate list, since we’re not talking about a core 
package to the operation of the Fink distribution—such questions are better 
directed to the fink-devel list.

That being said, I believe that the answer is no.  The existing KDE versions 
from 10.6 didn’t work on 10.7 and later, and the current version of Qt really 
doesn’t want to build for X11 on OS X.  Thus, we now only build native (Aqua) 
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Re: [fink-core] Servers down

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Re: [fink-core] update-passwd.in has hardcoded /sw

[Alexander Hansen]

On 11/3/13 4:47 AM, Remi Mommsen wrote:
 Hi,

 my fink installation is in /opt/fink and not in /sw. While adding a new user, 
 I found that update-passwd.in has a hardcoded /sw as PREFIX (line 33 in 
 passwd-core-20130111-2/fink-passwd-d5077a2). This leads to errors like:

 /opt/fink/bin/dpkg-lockwait -i 
 /opt/fink/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-x86_64/base/passwd-postgres_20130111-2_darwin-x86_64.deb
 (Reading database ... 135552 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace passwd-postgres 20130111-2 (using 
 .../passwd-postgres_20130111-2_darwin-x86_64.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement passwd-postgres ...
 Setting up passwd-postgres (20130111-2) ...
 grep: /sw/etc/passwd.conf: No such file or directory
 Looking for postgres entry in /sw/etc/passwd-fink...No entry for postgres in 
 /sw/etc/passwd-fink
 Enter a value manually.
 Enter a value for the UID:


 Cheers,
 Remi




I had fixed that in the master branch on passwd's github, but then got 
distracted by trying to get fink released.  Sorry about the delay.

Version 20131103 should solve that.

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Re: [fink-core] last =cut in perlmod/Fink/SelfUpdate/CVS.pm causes fink selfupdate to fail with 0.35.2 and 0.36.0

[Alexander Hansen]

...ok
 ./PkgVersion/non_consecutive_source..ok
 ./SelfUpdate/last_done...ok
 ./SelfUpdate/subclasses..ok
 ./Services/eval_conditional..ok
 ./Services/execute_nonroot_okay..ok
  1/12 skipped: various reasons
 ./Services/expand_percentok
 ./Services/prepare_scriptok
 ./Services/spec2struct...ok
 ./Services/version_cmp...ok
 ./Text/DelimMatch/DelimMatch.ok
 ./Text/ParseWords/ParseWords.ok
 ./Text/ParseWords/taint..ok
 ./Validation/_filename_versioning_cmpok
 ./Validation/exports.ok
 All tests successful (1 subtest UNEXPECTEDLY SUCCEEDED), 2 subtests skipped.
 Passed TODO Stat Wstat TODOs Pass  List of Passed
 ---
 ./Command/failure.t41  33
 Files=46, Tests=1034, 32 wallclock secs (24.11 cusr +  3.46 csys = 27.57 CPU)
 ./setup.sh /sw i386
 ./setup.sh: line 48: [: missing `]'
 ./setup.sh: line 48: 10: command not found
 Creating ...
 Creating fink-virtual-pkgs...
 Creating fink-instscripts...
 Creating fink-scanpackages...
 Creating pathsetup.sh...
 Creating FinkVersion.pm...
 Creating Fink.pm...
 Creating man pages...
 Creating shlibs default file...
 Creating postinstall script...
 Creating dpkg helper script...
 Creating lockwait wrappers...
 Creating g++ wrappers...
 Creating compiler_wrapper
 /bin/rm -rf /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-0.36.0-51
 /bin/mkdir -p /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-0.36.0-51/sw
 /bin/mkdir -p /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-0.36.0-51/DEBIAN
 /usr/sbin/chown -R root:admin /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-0.36.0-51
 ./install.sh /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-0.36.0-51/sw i386
 Creating directories...
 Copying files...
 Creating man pages from POD...
fink-scanpackages.8
Fink.3pm
Fink::Base.3pm
Fink::Bootstrap.3pm
Fink::Checksum.3pm
Fink::CLI.3pm
Fink::Command.3pm
Fink::Config.3pm
Fink::Configure.3pm
Fink::Engine.3pm
Fink::Finally.3pm
Fink::Finally::BuildConflicts.3pm
Fink::Finally::Buildlock.3pm
Fink::FinkVersion.3pm
Fink::Notify.3pm
Fink::Package.3pm
Fink::PkgVersion.3pm
Fink::Scanpackages.3pm
Fink::SelfUpdate.3pm
Fink::SelfUpdate::Base.3pm
Fink::SelfUpdate::CVS.3pm
 perlmod/Fink/SelfUpdate/CVS.pm around line 404: =cut found outside a
 pod block.  Skipping to next block.
 POD document had syntax errors at /sw/bin/pod2man line 69
 ### execution of ./install.sh failed, exit code 255
 Removing runtime build-lock...
 Removing build-lock package...
 /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -r fink-buildlock-fink-0.36.0-51
 (Reading database ... 9804 files and directories currently installed.)
 Removing fink-buildlock-fink-0.36.0-51 ...
 Failed: phase installing: fink-0.36.0-51 failed

 Before reporting any errors, please run fink selfupdate and try again.
 Also try using fink configure to set your maximum build jobs to 1 and
 attempt to build the package again.
 If you continue to have issues, please check to see if the FAQ on Fink's
 website solves the problem.  If not, ask on one (not both, please) of
 these mailing lists:

  The Fink Users List fink-us...@lists.sourceforge.net
  The Fink Beginners List fink-beginn...@lists.sourceforge.net.

 Please try to include the complete error message in your report.  This
 generally consists of a compiler line starting with e.g. gcc or g++
 followed by the actual error output from the compiler.

 Also include the following system information:
 Package manager version: 0.35.1
 Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Sun Nov  3 17:18:18 2013, 10.6, i386
 Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto local/injected
 Xcode.app: 3.2.6
 Xcode command-line tools: 3.2.6
 Max. Fink build jobs:  2


The file's wrong, but I still can't trigger a fatal error. :-)  What 
Fink perl version does your /sw/bin/pod2man come from?

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Re: [fink-core] last =cut in perlmod/Fink/SelfUpdate/CVS.pm causes fink selfupdate to fail with 0.35.2 and 0.36.0

[Alexander Hansen]

On 11/3/13 5:41 PM, Jason Byrne wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Alexander Hansen
 alexanderk.han...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 11/3/13 5:27 PM, Jason Byrne wrote:

 FYI, the full transcript (notice there's also a complaint about
 setup.sh, line 48, but I didn't try to figure out the problem with
 that yet)

 Update attempt from 0.35.1 from 0.36.0, but IIRC, I had the same
 issues trying to update from 0.35.1 to 0.35.2 a while ago...

 $ fink self-update
 /usr/bin/rsync -az -q
 rsync://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo//TIMESTAMP
 /sw/fink/TIMESTAMP.tmp
 I will now run the rsync command to retrieve the latest package
 descriptions.
 /usr/bin/rsync -rtz --delete-after --delete -q   --include='10.4/'
 --include='10.4/stable/' --include='10.4/stable/main/'
 --include='10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/'
 --include='10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/*/'
 --include='10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/*'
 --include='10.4/stable/main/finkinfo/**/*' --include='10.4/'
 --include='10.4/stable/' --include='10.4/stable/crypto/'
 --include='10.4/stable/crypto/finkinfo/'
 --include='10.4/stable/crypto/finkinfo/*/'
 --include='10.4/stable/crypto/finkinfo/*'
 --include='10.4/stable/crypto/finkinfo/**/*' --include='VERSION'
 --include='DISTRIBUTION' --include='README' --exclude='**'
 'rsync://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/finkinfo' '/sw/fink/'
 Scanning package description files..
 Information about 12674 packages read in 11 seconds.
 The following package will be installed or updated:
fink
 curl --connect-timeout 30 -f -L -A 'fink/0.35.1' -O
 http://distfiles.master.finkmirrors.net/fink-0.36.0.tar.gz
 % Total% Received % Xferd  Average Speed   TimeTime Time
 Current
Dload  Upload   Total   SpentLeft
 Speed
 100 1162k  100 1162k0 0  1170k  0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--
 1387k
 Setting runtime build-lock...
 dpkg-deb -b /sw/src/fink.build/root-fink-buildlock-fink-0.36.0-51
 /sw/src/fink.build
 dpkg-deb: building package `fink-buildlock-fink-0.36.0-51' in

 `/sw/src/fink.build/fink-buildlock-fink-0.36.0-51_2013.11.03-17.18.30_darwin-i386.deb'.
 Installing build-lock package...
 /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -i

 /sw/src/fink.build/fink-buildlock-fink-0.36.0-51_2013.11.03-17.18.30_darwin-i386.deb
 Selecting previously deselected package fink-buildlock-fink-0.36.0-51.
 (Reading database ... 9803 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking fink-buildlock-fink-0.36.0-51 (from
 .../fink-buildlock-fink-0.36.0-51_2013.11.03-17.18.30_darwin-i386.deb)
 ...
 Setting up fink-buildlock-fink-0.36.0-51 (2013.11.03-17.18.30) ...

 env LANG=C LC_ALL=C /sw/bin/tar  --no-same-owner --no-same-permissions
 -xf /sw/src/fink-0.36.0.tar.gz
 ./pre-build-test.sh
 make test PREFIX=/sw ARCHITECTURE=i386 DISTRIBUTION=10.6
 perl -MExtUtils::Manifest=fullcheck -e 'my($missing, $extra) =
 fullcheck;exit (@$missing || @$extra)'
 ./setup.sh /sw/src/fink.build/fink-0.36.0-51/t/basepath i386
 ./setup.sh: line 48: [: missing `]'
 ./setup.sh: line 48: 10: command not found
 Creating ...
 Creating fink-virtual-pkgs...
 Creating fink-instscripts...
 Creating fink-scanpackages...
 Creating pathsetup.sh...
 Creating FinkVersion.pm...
 Creating Fink.pm...
 Creating man pages...
 Creating shlibs default file...
 Creating postinstall script...
 Creating dpkg helper script...
 Creating lockwait wrappers...
 Creating g++ wrappers...
 Creating compiler_wrapper
 cd t  ./testmore.pl  find . -name '*.t' | sort | PREFIX=/sw
 xargs /usr/bin/perl -I`pwd`/../perlmod -MTest::Harness -e
 'runtests(@ARGV)'
 Checking for Test::More...
 ./00compile..ok
 ./10features/users_groupsok
 ./10features/volume..ok
 ./Base/initializeok
 ./Base/param.ok
 ./Base/param_boolean.ok
 ./CLI/captureok
 ./Command/catok
 ./Command/chowname...ok
 ./Command/commands...ok
 ./Command/du_sk..ok
   1/6 skipped: various reasons
 ./Command/exportsok
 ./Command/failureok
   1/49 unexpectedly succeeded
 TODO PASSED test 33

 ./Command/touch..ok
 ./Config/exports.ok
 ./Config/failure.ok
 ./Config/flagok
 ./Config/load_save...ok
 ./Config/options.ok
 ./Config/param...ok
 ./Config/verbosity_level.ok
 ./Engine/fetch...ok
 ./Finally/buildlocks.ok
 ./Finally/finallyok
 ./FinkVersion/exportsok
 ./FinkVersion/versionok
 ./Mirror/exports.ok
 ./Notify/exports.ok
 ./Package/duplicate_fullnamesok

Re: [fink-core] fink dumpinfo crashes on patchfile2

[Alexander Hansen]

On 9/19/13 11:54 AM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser wrote:
 On 9/19/2013 2:16 PM, Martin Costabel wrote:
 Package manager version: 0.35.1
 Distribution version: selfupdate-cvs Thu Sep 19 01:58:59 2013, 10.8, x86_64

 `fink dumpinfo flac` ends prematurely with

 []
 builddependsonly: true
 source: mirror:sourceforge:flac/flac-1.2.1.tar.gz
 source-md5: 153c8b15a54da428d1f0fadc756c22c7
 nosourcedirectory: [undefined]
 patchfile: flac.patch
 patchfile-md5: 5c41b21888c325ba7d77dcc67e24ac9b
 Failed: Unknown field patchfile2

 The same happens with any of the other 27 packages that have a
 PatchFile2 field.

 Is this something I did to my fink or are others seeing this, too?

 Confirming on 10.7 and 10.6/*. The 10.7 machine is using fink-git from
 the dpkg branch.

 Hanspeter



The following match in Engine.pm seems to be the culprit here:

  $_ =~ /^patch(|\d*file|\d*file-md5)$/ or $_ eq 'appbundles' or

It looks like the \d got placed in the wrong location, since we're not 
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Re: [fink-core] SF.net tracker milestones

[Alexander Hansen]

On 9/11/13 1:59 AM, Max Horn wrote:
 Hi there,

 I just closed a fink submission tracker item because it was 5 years old and 
 outdated... so I set the status to closed-out-of-date. But then I noticed 
 the Milestone was still set to Undergoing_Validation, which sounds wrong... 
 But no other milestone is really right, either.

 Should we add a new milestone for these things, and which? Some suitable ones 
 for my case:
 - Closed: rejected (not quite accurate, though)
 - Closed: out of date (kinds of silly to duplicate the status field 
 value, though)
 - Closed: other reason (might be best as it'll help in other border cases)

 The tracker item in question is here:
https://sourceforge.net/p/fink/package-submissions/3102/


 Cheers,
 Max




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Re: [fink-core] issues with the recent updates to gettext and friends

[Alexander Hansen]

On 8/25/13 3:08 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 1)  My bad, I didn't test using -m mode.  There's a test failure for
 folks with vala installed.  In gettext-tools lang-vala.log:

 Compilation failed: 1 error(s), 0 warning(s)
 In file included from
 /sw/build.build/gettext-tools-0.18.3.1-1/gettext-0.18.3.1/gettext-tools/tests/l-vala-prog.vala.c:10:

 /sw/include/glib-2.0/glib/gi18n-lib.h:25:10: fatal error: 'libintl.h'
 file not found
 #include libintl.h
   ^
 1 error generated.
 error: cc exited with status 256

 2) There's runtime breakage in dpkg for 10.9, since we moved a revision
 beyond what folks bootstrapped with:

 /sw/bin/dpkg-lockwait -i
 /sw/src/fink.build/fink-buildlock-fink-0.35.99.git-20130825.2007_2013.08.25-14.24.00_darwin-x86_64.deb

 tar: This does not look like a tar archive

 Currently in the 10.9 test branch (Futureproof) dpkg is built with the
 --disable-nls configure parameter set to avoid this issue.  Assuming
 that we _don't_ want to do this for 10.7 and 10.8, we probably need
 either to have a separate 10.9 package description or to add that
 parameter in the CompileScript if the user is found to be on 10.9+.

 Unless folks have a better idea.

 From discussions in IRC, this may not actually be what we need to do.

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[fink-core] website

[Alexander Hansen]

Unfortunately, I'm not in a good situation right now to deal with the 
website issues (geographically, time, or otherwise).

Let's just purge finkproject.org from the internal docs since 
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the DNS for that, and have our official website be on some place where 
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Re: [fink-core] What I'm thinking about in mainline fink right now

[Alexander Hansen]

On 6/23/13 11:15 AM, Daniel Johnson wrote:

 On Jun 23, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Alexander Hansen alexanderk.han...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 On 6/23/13 8:45 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 On 6/23/13 7:04 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 On 6/23/13 6:55 AM, Daniel Johnson wrote:

 On Jun 20, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Alexander Hansen
 alexanderk.han...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 6/19/13 8:03 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 1)  I've finally smoothed some tuits down enough to work on
 https://github.com/fink/fink/issues/42 .  This is going use a similar
 methodology as the system-SDK packages, in that we're not going to
 have
 system-javaXY packages present at all for systems where one cannot
 possibly have that XY (e.g. system-java13 on Mountain Lion).  Having a
 virtual package present but not installed produces a confusing faux
 build process when installing something that depends on it, whereas
 not
 having an entry for the package gives a straightforward package does
 not exist message.
 Once I've got something that WorksForMe on different platforms, I'll
 put
 it in a branch of the main fink repository.


 Meh, I just put it in master.  User-visible changes are:

 1)  For people on 10.7 or later who have Oracle's Java-1.7.x installed,
 there will be system-java17* packages, plus the system-java and
 system-java-dev package will exist for people who don't have a legacy
 Apple Java installed, e.g. people who installed Mountain Lion after
 Apple dropped it.

 2)  On 10.5/i386, system-java16* goes away because Java-1.6.x was
 distributed as x86_64 only for some reason there.

 Your commit bffa85c appears broken. I'm getting a lot of these every
 time I run fink:

 Use of uninitialized value $dir in concatenation (.) or string at
 /sw64/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 420.
 Use of uninitialized value $dir in concatenation (.) or string at
 /sw64/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 421.
 Use of uninitialized value $dir in concatenation (.) or string at
 /sw64/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 427.
 Use of uninitialized value $dir in pattern match (m//) at
 /sw64/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 433.
 Use of uninitialized value $dir in concatenation (.) or string at
 /sw64/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 420.
 Use of uninitialized value $dir in concatenation (.) or string at
 /sw64/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 421.
 Use of uninitialized value $dir in concatenation (.) or string at
 /sw64/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 427.
 Use of uninitialized value $dir in pattern match (m//) at
 /sw64/lib/perl5/Fink/VirtPackage.pm line 433.

 Looks like $dir is no longer in scope?

 Daniel


 Hmm...I'm not seeing that here, and I've got both a legacy and a new JDK
 so I thought I had full coverage :-) .

 What does /usr/libexec/java_home -V return?


 And what OS version?


 $dir is still in scope at line 420.  It gets redefined, and potentially 
 undefined, now that I look at it, at line 406 for 1.7.x JDKs:

 ($dir) = ($javadir =~ m|jdk(\d.*)_|) ;


 I get

 Matching Java Virtual Machines (5):
  1.7.0_06, x86_64:Java SE 7 
 /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.7.0_06.jdk/Contents/Home
  1.7.0_04, x86_64:Java SE 7 
 /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.7.0.jdk/Contents/Home
  1.7.0-u4-b05-20120111, x86_64:   OpenJDK 7 
 /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.7.0u.jdk/Contents/Home
  1.6.0_51-b11-456, x86_64:Java SE 6 
 /System/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.6.0.jdk/Contents/Home
  1.6.0_51-b11-456, i386:  Java SE 6 
 /System/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.6.0.jdk/Contents/Home

 /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.7.0_06.jdk/Contents/Home

 Interesting that I have multiple 1.7.0's showing.

 This is on 10.8.4 with Xcode 4.6.3.
 The issue goes away when I roll back to before the java commits.

 Daniel


The issue would indeed go away, because 1.7.x isn't detected at all. :-)

The multiple 1.7.0 JDKs is completely normal.  This appears to be the 
same strategy that has been used on Windows all along.

(One annoyance is that the auto-update for Java (via the Control Panel) 
seems only to update the browser plugin and not the JDK.)

I have:

$ /usr/libexec/java_home -V
Matching Java Virtual Machines (4):
 1.7.0_25, x86_64:  Java SE 7 
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.7.0_25.jdk/Contents/Home
 1.7.0_21, x86_64:  Java SE 7 
/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/jdk1.7.0_21.jdk/Contents/Home
 1.6.0_51-b11-456, x86_64:  Java SE 6 
/System/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.6.0.jdk/Contents/Home
 1.6.0_51-b11-456, i386:Java SE 6 
/System/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.6.0.jdk/Contents/Home

and I naively assumed that the path structure wasn't changed along the way.

So the issue appears to be that your OpenJDK and 1.7.0_4 JDK paths don't 
satisfy the regex and $dir winds up getting unset.
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Re: [fink-core] What I'm thinking about in mainline fink right now

[Alexander Hansen]

On 6/19/13 8:03 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 1)  I've finally smoothed some tuits down enough to work on
 https://github.com/fink/fink/issues/42 .  This is going use a similar
 methodology as the system-SDK packages, in that we're not going to have
 system-javaXY packages present at all for systems where one cannot
 possibly have that XY (e.g. system-java13 on Mountain Lion).  Having a
 virtual package present but not installed produces a confusing faux
 build process when installing something that depends on it, whereas not
 having an entry for the package gives a straightforward package does
 not exist message.
 Once I've got something that WorksForMe on different platforms, I'll put
 it in a branch of the main fink repository.


Meh, I just put it in master.  User-visible changes are:

1)  For people on 10.7 or later who have Oracle's Java-1.7.x installed, 
there will be system-java17* packages, plus the system-java and 
system-java-dev package will exist for people who don't have a legacy 
Apple Java installed, e.g. people who installed Mountain Lion after 
Apple dropped it.

2)  On 10.5/i386, system-java16* goes away because Java-1.6.x was 
distributed as x86_64 only for some reason there.


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Re: [fink-core] finch mail

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On 5/30/13 10:17 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
 Just FYI, the mail server on finch (or is it phinch) is down, so I'm out of 
 touch with fink again.  This probably means after a few weeks I'll get 
 unsubscribed from the mailing lists yet again!

-- Dave


cc'ing -core

SSH is out, too, apparently.  At least _I_ can't connect.

it looks like the RSS feeds and rsync updates went down slightly after 
midnight UTC+1 on the 29th.

The website is still up, for what it's worth, though we won't be able to 
update it (other than the wiki) until we get other forms of connectivity.

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Re: [fink-core] Fink uninstall?

[Alexander Hansen]

On 5/8/13 6:31 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 On 5/8/13 4:51 AM, Peter Wang wrote:
 Hi There:

 It is very hard for me to find out how to uninstall fink and get it over
 again.

 When I type: fink selfupdate, I got a message: ERROR: y is not an
 absolute directory path.

 What was wrong with my fink?

 I need your help URGENTLY.

 Should I uninstall fink at all?

 I cannot find a way to uninstall FINK from your website.

 Many thanks,

 -Peter Wang



 You just need to run fink configure.

 On one of the options which asks for a path, you entered a 'y' by
 mistake.  As you go through the fink configure options one of them
 will show [y] after the text.  For that one, DO NOT pick the default
 value, but instead hit the space bar and then return.  This will clear
 the bad entry.


http://www.finkproject.org/faq/usage-fink.php#removing indicates how to 
remove Fink, by the way.

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Re: [fink-core] [Fink-users] Fink hangs forever (on tar) after mountain lion update

[Alexander Hansen]

On 3/31/13 2:33 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:
 On 31/03/13 05:30, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 []
 After some internal discussion, we've got another option for folks to
 look at:

 https://github.com/fink/fink/tree/branch__CFPREFERENCES_AVOID_DAEMON

 cf. https://trac.macports.org/ticket/34221

 This sets __CFPREFERENCES_AVOID_DAEMON=1 when fink drops to a non-root
 user during builds, and that seems to get rid of any stalls from
 Fink-built stuff including that from tar (this branch reverts the prior
 change), the one I saw from Java detection, and the one you saw from
 grep.

 Since this does more than just set a couple of environment variables
 only during unpacking of a source tarball, I won't be proactive and
 release this change based only on testing by me. :-)

 Works for me.


Sounds promising then.  No locale-related issues?

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Re: [fink-core] gettext update on tracker

[Alexander Hansen]

On 3/26/13 10:53 AM, Hanspeter Niederstrasser wrote:
 Jack Howarth posted an update to gettext on the tracker a month ago.

 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=414256aid=3605792group_id=17203

 This bumps us from 0.18.1.1 to 0.18.2 (I then did a bump to 0.18.2.1).
 The update is pretty clean and I've been using it on 10.7 for almost a
 month with no ill effects.  Because pieces of gettext are used in dpkg
 and libiconv, I also updated those two locally to use gettext 0.18.2.1,
 again with no ill effects so far.  It would be great to have the update
 get wider testing so that it can be committed.  I also have the changes
 to dpkg and libiconv and can push them to the tracker for testing
 (gettext, dpkg and libiconv should all be updated at the same time).

 Hanspeter


Yeah, it'd be nice to have the dpkg and libiconv updates attached on 
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Re: [fink-core] Website

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On 3/15/13 7:38 PM, Sjors Gielen wrote:
 Op 15-03-13 20:40, Alexander Hansen schreef:
 Does anybody have major objections to having
 fink.sourceforge.net not redirect to the mostly-dead
 finkproject.org?
 
 By the way, on a related topic: I talked to xs4all today and they
 weren't really happy. They were already crossing boundaries giving
 login data for the server to us the way they did last time (with
 the DNS record proving it's us), and they did not feel like
 crossing more boundaries to restore access to the server again. I
 could not easily prove I was involved with the project, so did not
 get login data. They suggested someone with a more official
 involvement in the project send an e-mail (English is fine) to
 zaalbeh...@xs4all.net, explaining the problem. Hopefully that will
 make it possible to restore access.
 
 Sjors
 
 
 

Thanks!  Getting a contact address is a step forward. :-)

I'm going to be really busy this weekend, so if someone else has time
that'd be great.
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Re: [fink-core] Web services

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On 2/22/13 3:04 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 On 2/22/13 12:42 PM, David (dmalloc) wrote:
 Alexander Hansen wrote:
 (phinch is still down)


 As mentioned before I have a machine I am willing to contribute. I just
 do not have time to administer it.

 
 Yeah, I'm not sure what my own availability is going to be like for a while.
 
 If there's a backup of our stuff on phinch (which I don't know) then it
 wouldn't be to hard to duplicate the setup, probably.  If we can't get
 to a backup, then I'd advocate setting it up as soon as phinch comes
 back online.
 

OK, I'd be up for getting at least the static website stuff online on
your machine.

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Re: [fink-core] Web services

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On 3/4/13 3:50 PM, Gockel Andreas wrote:
 
 On 04.03.2013, at 16:20, Alexander Hansen alexanderk.han...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 2/22/13 3:04 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 On 2/22/13 12:42 PM, David (dmalloc) wrote:
 Alexander Hansen wrote:
 (phinch is still down)


 As mentioned before I have a machine I am willing to contribute. I just
 do not have time to administer it.

 
 I could either administer the system or at least helping there.
 Currently i'm maintaining phinch (at least when it is not down…), so in know
 most of the setup from head.
 
 Yeah, I'm not sure what my own availability is going to be like for a while.

 If there's a backup of our stuff on phinch (which I don't know) then it
 wouldn't be to hard to duplicate the setup, probably.  If we can't get
 to a backup, then I'd advocate setting it up as soon as phinch comes
 back online.


 OK, I'd be up for getting at least the static website stuff online on
 your machine.
 
 We already have a backup site… the same as we used earlier already… 
 and it gets updated regularly via a cronjob:
 http://fink.thetis.ig42.org/
 
 fink.macosforge.org already syncs bindist, distfiles and finkinfo
 from my server. What i currently not have is a mediawiki setup, but thats
 changeable. Mail and/or ssh could also be setup if wanted/needed.
 
 Regards
 Andreas
 
 

What would be great would be if we could have:

1)  The DNS set up such that e.g. www.finkproject.org and
fink.sourceforge.net falls back to Andreas' machine in the event of an
outage.

2)  Update the mirroring scripts that our rsync providers use either to
have a fallback mechanism to point to Andreas' machine if the master
goes down or to update from CVS directly if possible.
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Re: [fink-core] finkproject.org is down again

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On 2/13/13 8:36 AM, David (dmalloc) wrote:
 Just as a side note guys I have a server standing around with a 100Mbit
 dedicated connection not really doing much at all. I would be happy to
 sponsor it for our use.
 
 -d
 

I'd be all for that.  Not that I really have the time right now to help
with migration tasks. :-)

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Re: [fink-core] finkproject.org is down again

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On 2/13/13 7:49 AM, Sjors Gielen wrote:
 Op 13-02-13 15:43, Alexander Hansen schreef:
 On 2/10/13 10:54 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 The last log entry was at 15:40:01 CET, so it's been about 3
 hours.
 
 It's now been about 99 hours.
 
 If nobody actually has the time to deal with these things, then
 we should consider moving our web presence to somewhere which
 involves less hand-holding on our part.
 
 I can call them again, and ask them for an explanation too, but I
 think they will just say the server isn't stable and ask us to
 replace it...
 
 Sjors
 
 
 

Or maybe the network cable got unplugged again. :-)

Yeah, let's see what they say.  The last log messages before we lost
contact didn't show anything strange, so there's not a clear
indication of what happened at this end.
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