Re: [flexcoders] Dashboard Sample: problems
No problems here with the dashboard in ie or firefox with 9,0,16,0. Jesse's app gave me just a blue screen on firefox, but after a few refreshes on ie, no problems. Paul - Original Message - From: JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Dashboard Sample: problems I have the exact same problem with 9.0.16.0 here with my app: http://dev.jessewarden.com/flex/webserviceexample/ 1st time works. Refresh. 2nd time, stops at 20%. Refresh. 3rd time, doesn't even show preloader. Same exact behavior in IE and Firefox. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:22 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Dashboard Sample: problems I was messing around with the dashboard sample on the adobe site http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/samples/dashboard/ And everything was going fine. Ever since upgrading FP9 to 9.0.16.0 though I can't get the application to successfully load. I redownloaded the source just in case I inadvertently changed something - but same affect. I get the pretty blue background and a status window that freezes about 20% through the load. Any ideas? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] OT: average cost for an SDK?
- Original Message - From: Dan Thatcher To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [flexcoders] OT: average cost for an SDK? Ok, so this is an OT question, but I thought that the experienced participants in this group would be most likely to have some insight on this question. What do SDKs usually cost? I would assume that it could be anywhere from free to really expensive. I am mostly just interested in polling the list to get a bunch of SDK cost numbers so that I can come up with a median number. Anyone ever worked with an SDK? What did it cost you (if anything)? What's the point of a median number? As you said anything from free to $$. Paul TIA; Dan Dan ThatcherOnline LearningThe American Academy of Professional Coders801-238-9893 (office)801-879-9253 (mobile) __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Org Chart
Same here: TypeError: Error #1009: Cannot access a property or method of a null object reference.at mx.containers::Panel/mx.containers:Panel::layoutChrome()at mx.core::Container/mx.core:Container::updateDisplayList()at mx.containers::Panel/mx.containers:Panel::updateDisplayList()at mx.core::UIComponent/validateDisplayList()at mx.core::Container/validateDisplayList()at mx.managers::LayoutManager/::validateDisplayList()at mx.managers::LayoutManager/::doPhasedInstantiation()at Function/http://adobe.com/AS3/2006/builtin::apply()at mx.core::UIComponent/::callLaterDispatcher2()at mx.core::UIComponent/::callLaterDispatcher() Paul - Original Message - From: Nick Collins To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:41 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Org Chart Hey Doug, I tried to view your CMOrgChart and it doesn't load with the final release of Flash Player 9. On 7/17/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one I created. Staye tuned tohttp://www.cubicleman.com/ I have to find time to update it to the Flex 2 GR code and make it purtier. It will be open source and all.http://www.cubicleman.com/2006/05/11/cmorgchart-is-here/ is the orginal post...works with FlashPlayer 9 beta 3DK On 7/17/06, hitch_nj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,I want to create an organisation chart, want to know if there are anysamples available. Actually I am new to Flex and would like to knowwhere to start.Thanksh --Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Douglas Knudsenhttp://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Org Chart
Sorry Douglas, didn't spot that bit - didn't mean to hassle you. Paul - Original Message - From: Douglas Knudsen To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Org Chart "I have to find time to update it to the Flex 2 GR code and make it purtier"I'm in knee deep with work projects, so fell behind updating it. Paying jobs come first, eh? hehe! DK On 7/18/06, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here: TypeError: Error #1009: Cannot access a property or method of a null object reference.at mx.containers::Panel/mx.containers:Panel::layoutChrome()at mx.core::Container/mx.core:Container::updateDisplayList()at mx.containers::Panel/mx.containers:Panel::updateDisplayList()at mx.core::UIComponent/validateDisplayList()at mx.core::Container/validateDisplayList()at mx.managers::LayoutManager/::validateDisplayList()at mx.managers::LayoutManager/::doPhasedInstantiation()at Function/http://adobe.com/AS3/2006/builtin::apply()at mx.core::UIComponent/::callLaterDispatcher2()at mx.core::UIComponent/::callLaterDispatcher() Paul - Original Message - From: Nick Collins To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:41 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Org Chart Hey Doug, I tried to view your CMOrgChart and it doesn't load with the final release of Flash Player 9. On 7/17/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one I created. Staye tuned tohttp://www.cubicleman.com/ I have to find time to update it to the Flex 2 GR code and make it purtier. It will be open source and all.http://www.cubicleman.com/2006/05/11/cmorgchart-is-here/ is the orginal post...works with FlashPlayer 9 beta 3DK On 7/17/06, hitch_nj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,I want to create an organisation chart, want to know if there are anysamples available. Actually I am new to Flex and would like to knowwhere to start.Thanksh --Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Douglas Knudsenhttp://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? -- Douglas Knudsenhttp://www.cubicleman.comthis is my signature, like it? __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[flexcoders] Subclassing the flex DateChooser
Any good examples out there? Paul Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] Subclassing the flex DateChooser
Thank you! - Original Message - From: Shannon Hicks To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: RE: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] Subclassing the flex DateChooser http://weblogs.macromedia.com/khoyt/archives/2005/03/custom_calendar.cfm Shan From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul AndrewsSent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:55 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] Subclassing the flex DateChooser Any good examples out there?Paul --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006 --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.2/393 - Release Date: 7/19/2006 __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list
- Original Message - From: Doug Hughes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list Hi, Ive been trying for about a week to unsubscribe from this list without luck. Ive followed the instructions and replied back to the confirmation email from yahoo. Ive tried writing to yahoos support to get them to remove me. No luck! Someone, please remove me from the list. Just go to the online yahoo groups page, sign in and go to the flexcoders group. If you edit your membership settings you'll find a big button that says "leave group". Bobs your uncle.. Thank you, Doug __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list
Hi Doug, I guess you'll have to wait for the moderators to kick in. Maybe it's a fate thing and you are destined to be a flex coder... Hope you get sorted out soon. You can always filter the flexcoders list for the moment.. Paul - Original Message - From: Doug Hughes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list Im not subscribed with a yahoo address. How can I log in? What would I use as the password? From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul AndrewsSent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:27 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list - Original Message - From: Doug Hughes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list Hi, Ive been trying for about a week to unsubscribe from this list without luck. Ive followed the instructions and replied back to the confirmation email from yahoo. Ive tried writing to yahoos support to get them to remove me. No luck! Someone, please remove me from the list. Just go to the online yahoo groups page, sign in and go to the flexcoders group. If you edit your membership settings you'll find a big button that says "leave group". Bobs your uncle.. Thank you, Doug __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list
Well, in that case why you would unsubscribe is beyond me. You can just filter the flexcoder stuff into a seperate folder - always there as a reference if need be and you might see something interesting if you dip in. Paul - Original Message - From: Doug Hughes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 4:10 PM Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list Well, amusingly, the more I try to get off the list the more I actually work with Flex. I bet as soon as Im off I have some question that could only be answered here. Doug From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul AndrewsSent: Friday, July 21, 2006 10:56 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list Hi Doug, I guess you'll have to wait for the moderators to kick in. Maybe it's a fate thing and you are destined to be a flex coder... Hope you get sorted out soon. You can always filter the flexcoders list for the moment.. Paul - Original Message - From: Doug Hughes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list Im not subscribed with a yahoo address. How can I log in? What would I use as the password? From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul AndrewsSent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:27 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list - Original Message - From: Doug Hughes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list Hi, Ive been trying for about a week to unsubscribe from this list without luck. Ive followed the instructions and replied back to the confirmation email from yahoo. Ive tried writing to yahoos support to get them to remove me. No luck! Someone, please remove me from the list. Just go to the online yahoo groups page, sign in and go to the flexcoders group. If you edit your membership settings you'll find a big button that says "leave group". Bobs your uncle.. Thank you, Doug __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Pricing question
So does an intel "two-in-one" processor still count as a single CPU? Paul - Original Message - From: Nick Collins To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex Pricing question One application means one flex application. So if you develop something in Flex 2, once you compile it it becomes a Flex application. One application means you can have one such application running FDS.However you can still have as many applications on a server as you want if they're not using FDS. On 7/22/06, Jorge Tejada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What "One application" means?, Does it means that I will only can use FDS from a Flex Builder 2 Project? On 7/21/06, Nick Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the Eclipse plugin is the same cost as Flex Builder. As far as that goes, the Eclipse Plugin IS Flexbuilder, as Flex Builder is really eclipse streamlined and with a different splash screen. In fact, it's the same installer and you choose which you want to install. As far as Flex Data Services, the model is as follows:Express: free but limited to 1 application on a 1 CPU server, no concurrent user limitDepartmental: $6000 per CPU, unlimited applications, CPUs limited only to what you've paid for, 100 concurrent user limit Enterprise: MSRP $20,000 per CPU, unlimited applications, CPUs limited only to what you've paid for, no concurrent user limit (per Matt's comment, nobody pays list for this but they have to have a number as a starting point) On 7/21/06, Umesh Garg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is the Eclipse plug-in for the Flex-builder free orI have to pay for it. CanI get this without the flexbuilder?If yes, what is the cost? I don't see the price for Flex Data Serviceon the site, what's the pricing model for this? I understand the express version is free to download. What is the limitation of express version? What's the days-limit for trial flex charting? Thanks Umesh. Thanks Umesh How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..
My wife works in education and her school subscribes to a remote service that supplies web based information via the internet. When it works they love it but it's gotten a pretty awful nickname for the times it doesn't or is just plain slow. The important point here is that it's a good application, supplied from a remote server, but seen as unreliable either due to internet connectivity problems or speed. Forgetting the speed problem (there's usually ways to sort that out), I wondered how people are using Flex as a remotely served application. Are there good strategies to mitigate connection problems and how do companies react to the idea of remotely served applications that are important/critical to the business? Is the critical desktop application where Flex cannot go (except perhaps by in-house intranet)? Paul -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..
- Original Message - From: hank williams To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question.. I dont quite understand. Arent *all* flex applications remotely served? Isnt that what it means to have an application on the internet? Perhaps you could explain what scenario you are thinking about where a flex app isnt remote? RegardsHank Hi Hank, The scenario I was thinking about primarily is where applications are served on an intranet. In this case the health of the intranet and any server connected to it is usually/often under the jurisdiction of the company using the application, so any infrastructure problems are, in the main, in-house. A web application may then be very similar to a desktop one, because desktop applications in a company environment are often reliant on a healthy network/servers in order to function (network shares, database connectivity, network security, etc.). In this way, intranet deployed Flex applications have very similar deployment risks/vulnerabilities to desktop apps (but none of the desktop installation hassle). All this contrasts with loading a Flex App from a remote server where you may not have control of the infrastructure between the desktop and remote server, neither may you have control over the remote server and it's local infrastructure. I hope that explains my view a bit better. Paul __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..
- Original Message - From: hank williams To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question.. On 7/23/06, Shannon Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flex, in it's present form, does not handle connectivity issues well. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this. I have no problem "connecting" to flash/flex apps. Of course if the internet connection is down then things wont work, but that's not a flex issue. But it is an issue for a Flex application, as opposed to a desktop one. While it's possible to do, Flex can't save anything to the user's local hard drive, so "saved" information is only saved while the browser window is open. Actually, flash has local sharedObjects that allow an application to save data locally. Maybe some clever Flash guru can make me eat my words :) However, if I understand correctly, Adobe's upcoming technology, Apollo, will allow for this sort of thing (a flex-built desktop app with limited / occasional connections to the server). I'm not sure he was concerned about occasional connections to the server. He simply said remotely served application. LOL, well HE (ie me) wasn't just thinking in terms of just serving the application, they still need to talk back to base to get and update data. I think we're all reasonably aware of what the technology can do. What I was particularly intersted in any experiences of actually selling/building/deploying a Flex app in places where a traditional desktop environment has been. Was there resistance to the idea? Were people concerned about vulnerability of net connections and did you do anything to mitigate those fears/put in place a standby? Paul Shan __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..
Hank, I'm not arguing about the trend, just asking what's going on practically with Flex developers. Paul - Original Message - From: hank williams To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question.. Whatever anecdotal stories you might hear here, the more accurate reflection of what is going on is the broad discussion of this issue in the tech press. Regards Hank Paul Shan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..
Hank, Your comments are perfectly reasonable (and I'm not sure that any answer would be satisfying). I've spent most of my life working in large company/corporate environments. From my experience, some companies will embrace the trend we've been talking about and have no problem with infrastructure (as you say). These companies weren't the focus of my question. Next come large companies for which infrastructure may or may not be there (I have worked on very large projects where the only link to a customer site has been via dial-up). Even large companies might not embrace the trend, but might have been won over by our flexcoder friends. Lastly, and probably the real focus of my query is putting Flex into a company that doesn't have a big budget IT department or infrastructure, and here there are the barriers I talked about - loss of connectivity (and functionality) of a business critical App. Some of our flecoder friends might have some interesting ideas/stories here. So carry on commenting - I'm not arguing about the trend! Paul - Original Message - From: hank williams To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question.. Paul, Sorry Paul. I feel like I am derailing your question and that is not my intent. But I did think that this was a trend question. how do companies react to the idea of remotely served applications that are important/critical to the business? I realize that my answer isnt exactly what you want to hear, but my experience is that there is not much of an issue and there are few problems with company's implementing remote applications. Perhaps unlike your wife's school, in corporate environments, internet connection is like telephone service. It is critical, and companies are used to depending on it being available. I dont have any anecdotes because I have never heard anyone say what you are asking. I have heard horror stories with in-house installations that have caused people to move to remote applications. I'm sure there are some circumstances where your concern is an issue (like securities and banking) but by and large I dont think its an issue. At this point I fully realize this is not a satisfying answer based on the perspective you are coming from, but I just wanted to be clear, FWIW. I'll shut up now:) Regards Hank Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2
- Original Message -
From: Artur Kordowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 2:58 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2
How can I create in a loop variables dynamicly?
Like this:
for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
{
var myVar_i:String = new String();
}
Any idea?
var myVar:Array = new Array();
for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
{
myVar[i] = new String();
}
Artur
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Re: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2
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Subject: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2
How can I create in a loop variables dynamicly?
Like this:
for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
{
var myVar_i:String = new String();
}
Any idea?
var myVar:Array = new Array();
for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
Oops.. for (var i:uint=0; i 10; i++)
{
myVar[i] = new String();
}
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Re: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2
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Subject: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2
How can I create in a loop variables dynamicly?
Like this:
for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
{
var myVar_i:String = new String();
}
Any idea?
var myVar:Array = new Array();
for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
{
myVar[i] = new String();
}
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Re: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2
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From: Artur Kordowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2
But i dont want to use an array. I would like to create those vars on the
fly.
I don't really see what the difference would be apart from the syntax.
Referring to myVar1.. myVar10 will still mean that you have to fabricate
the name dynamically. There's really no difference between doing that and
having myVar[1].. myVar[10], or the altenatives mentioned by others.
Why do you want to do this specifically this way?
Paul
Artur
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Subject: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2
How can I create in a loop variables dynamicly?
Like this:
for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
{
var myVar_i:String = new String();
}
Any idea?
var myVar:Array = new Array();
for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
{
myVar[i] = new String();
}
Artur
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Re: [flexcoders] stop mailing list
- Original Message - From: Ferry Tristanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: [flexcoders] stop mailing list i want to stop my mailing list, because my final project already fineshed. thamnk you Reading to the bottom of the list emails, might be an idea.. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Can someone explain this code, its related to Cairngorm?
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Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 12:18 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Can someone explain this code, its related to
Cairngorm?
Hi,
I am trying to understand the ModelLocator and how Cairngorm works.
I have been reading, but I think I need some additional information
on the code below if possible.
1. What is the difference between Public function and Public Static
function. I assume Public functions can be called from anywhere in
the application. But what about the public static
When something is declared as static there can only be one class instance.
There's no need to instantiate the class as an object in order to call a
static function or access a public static member.
2. Any info about the ModelLocator would be helpful.
[Bindable]
public class ModelLocator implements
com.adobe.cairngorm.model.ModelLocator
This is the interface the class implements
{
private static var
modelLocator:code.model.ModelLocator;
A class (static) variable for use by a class (static) function.
public static function getInstance() :
code.model.ModelLocator
Call this to get the instance of the ModelLocator.
{
if ( modelLocator == null )
If the ModelLocator has never been instantiated then create it, otherwise
return it.
This inforces that only one ModelLocator instance exists - a singleton.
modelLocator = new
code.model.ModelLocator();
return modelLocator;
}
//---
--
public function ModelLocator()
This is the Class constructor. If this is called and the reference to the
ModelLocator exists then something has gone wrong - the constructor is
called by the static function above. If the constructor is called twice
there's a problem - there can only be one ModelLocator.
{
if ( code.model.ModelLocator.modelLocator !=
null )
throw new Error( Only one
ModelLocator instance should be instantiated );
}
//---
--
public function initialise() : void
{
}
Thanks,
Malik
Hope that helps
Paul
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Simple way to do Please wait... type window
- Original Message - From: JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:26 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Simple way to do Please wait... type window One way I did it was making a Singleton class that popups up a small TitleWindow. This TitleWindow has a ProgressBar in it. The ProgressBar's indeterminate is bound to the visibility (you don't want it playing while the window is invisible; takes up resources). You can then do: WaitWindow.showProgress(Loading...); Inside, it'll create a popup if none exists, and put the text in there. It's modal by default. You can then later go: WaitWindow.remove(); And if one exists, it'll remove it. Subsequent calls to showProgress merely update the text. You can use this for changed commands. Are modal windows really a good way to go with this? It seems to me to be a step backward when you are stopping the user from doing anything whilst data is loading. What happens if the load is particularly slow, fails, or was accidentally initiated and the user changes their mind? Seems to me that modal progress windows just go completely against the idea of an asynchronous event driven architecture. Paul -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Simple way to do Please wait... type window
- Original Message - From: JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:35 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Simple way to do Please wait... type window Depends. The spinning watch is what we use 100% of the time; that's the default cursor that still allows you to click around. However, for some interfaces where you DON'T want the user to click anything and need to force them to wait, modality works great; it's why they gave us modality, for those use cases. Well, there's modality and there's modality. No way out Modality: Modality where I'm stuck with waiting for something to run that I caused accidentally to happen and is going to take some time, or I'm waiting for a response from some web service that's either not going to reply or take five minutes. I'm only left with closing the browser window as a way forward. Really bad. The operation is wholly on the client so the application is completely under control without reliance on outside services. This is better because there's little chance of the scenario above. Ok you can cancel Modality: My operation is going to take two minutes, but the boss says we have to leave for the airport now. I need to cancel. Having worked for years on a proprietary system with synchronous SQL queries, I know how hated modal/synchronous panels can be. Paul -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Flex 2 documentation set
Anyone know if the Flex2 Documentation set will be made available for purchase? I have a love hate relationship with PDFs! Thanks, Paul -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 and Access Databases
- Original Message - From: edugalvez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 8:00 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Flex 2 and Access Databases Hi. I'm a rookie about Flex. Can I connect my Flex 2 application to my Access Database on the server? No and Yes. Flex does not have any facilities for accessing databases directly. Server-side software is required for the Flex client to communicate with. The server side software could be Java, PHP, ASP, RoR, a web service, etc returning data to the Flex Client and interacting with the database. So yes, you could access Access using flex2, but only by writing a server-side software layer to do that interaction for Flex2. Flex doesn't do direct database access. Paul Thanks -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Cainrgorm/Flex 2 document
Hi, I've just been told of a document ( http://www.digimmersion.com/support/Flex%20UI%20Design%20For%20Cairngorm.pdf ) describing one way to go with Cairngorm/flex when developing applications. It might be interesting for those finding their feet with Cairngorm and/or Flex 2. The document does describe a process that includes using the visio template that they sell. Either way, I don't think it matters much - I found it an interesting read and anyone can pick up or ignore any of the techniques described. I should say now that I have no connection with digimmersion (www.digimmersion.com) except as a happy customer. That's it. Paul -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: decimal numbers in financial applications
- Original Message - From: ryanm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: decimal numbers in financial applications At that point you are looking at full table scan to update single record - and it might be much worse problem then loosing one cent on rounding. On the other hand, the application I was working on dealt with a service model that involved tenths or hundredths of a penny per transaction, and added up hundreds of thousands of transactions on a typical page of data, so losing a penny to a rounding error would've been a very serious problem. It really depends on the nature of the app and just how precise you need the numbers to be. These situations are where a properly abstracted business logic layer comes in handy. When fully seperated from the display layer, all the calculations take place in a single language/platform and all precisions issues can be dealt with at one time, hopefully in a single place in the code. Depending on the nature and purpose of the app that kind of precision may not be required, but it still makes it a lot easier to fix precision issues when they come up if your logic is all handled in one place. I guess what I'm saying is it depends on the app. ;-) You are absolutely right. I've seen this problem (years ago) on an application where the UI was client server and the reporting was done separtely on the server (different software to the client). It can be rather problematic seeing one thing on screen and something different in a printed invoice or report (no matter how small the difference). For some reason the customer/users start losing faith in the software.. Paul ryanm -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Display XML file contents - HELP
- Original Message - From: Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Display XML file contents - HELP On Friday 18 August 2006 07:06, rashmi_nraj wrote: But I am not sure how to access the XML object in the .as file using the Class object. I am not sure about how to get a reference to that XML object. Declare it public: public var myThing; just after the 'public class' line. Better still write a getter function and don't make it public.. If that doesn't make sense, maybe you should post some code :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to widespreadedly fashion prospective portals This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Problem to change states
- Original Message - From: Igor Costa To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Problem to change states How do I change a State from a component to application? Shouldn't your component be sending an event for the application to respond to rather than trying to change the state of the application? Paul I really don't know this btw.Thanks-- Igor Costawww.igorcosta.com __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Software development tool Software development Software development services Home design software Software development company YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Architecture question
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Merritt To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Architecture question Hi all,I would like some feedback from the group collective about the approach I'm thinking about taking to implementing an application using Flex for the UI.There is an existing desktop application and the goal of the new application is to be able to run the files created by the desktop app in a web browser. We've already got the guts of the desktop app implemented as a web service -- now we need to add UI. So here is the question: the files output by the desktop app have XML that marks up the interface, complete with x and y coordinates. What would work best? - To have a generic MXML file that uses ActionScript to parse the XML and create the components needed for the UI on the fly and lay them out according to the XML markup - or-- To create a conversion utility that creates an MXML file based on the desktop app's XML and then invoke the Flex compiler to output an SWF. This approach would require me to redistribute the Flex SDK, which seems to be okay according to the license. I'm leaning toward the latter option as it puts the burden of figuring out the layout of the UI and all that jazz on the conversion utility. The resultant SWF would then just communicate with the web service and run the app. What are your thoughts on this? Well, I'm really curious as to what it is that needs a dynamic interface to be built like this. My first thought was(as you suggest) to go with an xml transformation to mxml if the UI doesn't need to be rebuilt every single time, but I'm wary about what the user experience would be - there would be a delay in doing the transformation and then compiling then invoking a swf. There may be a better user experience by running a swf, then reading and interpreting the xml. In the second situation, there's no recompile andtransformation overhead. Essentially your application is reading an xml configuration file from the web service, then configuring itself. Paul Thanks,Jeremy __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Architecture question
OK, interesting stuff! It's not clear from your description how a given user would choose the right application build for them. I can see two possibilities. 1) A flex front end loads a menu (from a web service) offering a list of application builds to the user (I suppose this might change for different users, or even just be a single choice for each user?). The application UI specifics are then loaded into the flex app and the UI reconfigured. 2) A flex front end loads a menu (as before) but instead of reconfiguring the UI, executes a separate pre-compiled swf that implements the appropriate UI. The pre-compiled swf would have been created when the desktop app generated the configuration info, it would then translate the generated configuration to mxml, invoke the compiler to generate the swf and add the swf reference to the list of apps offered to the user. Both these options would provide a fairly seamless experience for the user, with the only delays being experienced (not by the end user) when generating a new UI using the desktop app. Paul - Original Message - From: Jeremy Merritt To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Architecture question Thanks for the input Paul.The desktop application is a tool to build dynamic models of systems and author an interface for others to interact with the model. The interface consist of input objects, (sliders, knobs, input fields, etc), and outputs like graphs and table. A dashboard or sorts to run the simulation. If an author of such models wishes to share the model with others, currently they need to direct the user to download a "player" version of the software to interact with the model. The application we want to build will allow the author to upload their work to a website where they can share the interface of their model with others. An online "player", if you will, that will only require the end-user to have a web browser with the Flash Player installed. That said, it's not unreasonable to have the author do the conversion from the desktop file format into a SWF in a conversion application. I'm leaning toward this approach, because the final SWF would only need to interact with the web service to actually run the model, and record the end-users input decisions. I hope this clarifies things. I welcome others feedback on the pro/cons of this approach vs a dynamically created interface.Thanks,Jeremy On 8/29/06, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jeremy Merritt To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Architecture question Hi all,I would like some feedback from the group collective about the approach I'm thinking about taking to implementing an application using Flex for the UI.There is an existing desktop application and the goal of the new application is to be able to run the files created by the desktop app in a web browser. We've already got the guts of the desktop app implemented as a web service -- now we need to add UI. So here is the question: the files output by the desktop app have XML that marks up the interface, complete with x and y coordinates. What would work best? - To have a generic MXML file that uses ActionScript to parse the XML and create the components needed for the UI on the fly and lay them out according to the XML markup - or-- To create a conversion utility that creates an MXML file based on the desktop app's XML and then invoke the Flex compiler to output an SWF. This approach would require me to redistribute the Flex SDK, which seems to be okay according to the license. I'm leaning toward the latter option as it puts the burden of figuring out the layout of the UI and all that jazz on the conversion utility. The resultant SWF would then just communicate with the web service and run the app. What are your thoughts on this? Well, I'm really curious as to what it is that needs a dynamic interface to be built like this. My first thought was(as you suggest) to go with an xml transformation to mxml if the UI doesn't need to be rebuilt every single time, but I'm wary about what the user experience would be - there would be a delay in doing the transformation and then compiling then invoking a swf. There may be a better user experience by running a swf, then reading and interpreting the xml. In the second situation, there's no recompile andtransformation overhead. Essentially your application is reading an xml configuration file from the web servi
Re: [flexcoders] Crazy Issue
No particular theories, but it sounds like you need some debugging/audit trail to be able to monitor what's really happenning. In the scale of things hundreds of records may not show up a bug in your software. If I had a wild guess, something's gone wrong causing the ID to be overwritten, or an old ID to remain in place rather than be overwritten. Good luck. - Original Message - From: Rich Tretola To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:52 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Crazy Issue Although there is no proof that this actually occured as stated. I am getting feedback from management that the following occured.Here is the setup.A flex2 swf running within a .jsp reads in a url variable using request.getParameter(). The variable is passed into the swf using flashVars and stored as a property of the model. The application loads specific data based on that model.id. The application then allows the user to input data and attaches the model.id to the object and then saves it to the database through a remote object java/hibernate backend. Management is telling me that a record in the database shows a different id than the one that was passed into the application through flashVars. I don't see any way this could be possible but thought I would throw it out to the list. There have been hundeds of records that have been saved properly and only one in question. The only thing I can think of is that the user either went to the wrong url or edited the id url variable. Both of these seem unlikely however.Any one have any theories?Rich __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Software development tool Software development Software development services Home design software Software development company Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Eclipse becoming HORRIBLY slow??
Seems darn big to me for anything.. Why is it so big? Usually with classes and modularisation, you'd expect much smaller files. Are you breaking up the UI into components? - Original Message - From: Steve Kellogg @ Project SOC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 3:05 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Eclipse becoming HORRIBLY slow?? Well, it's not VERY big.. (2000 lines) Is that very big for Eclipse? Thanks Steve -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Chiverton Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 4:08 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Eclipse becoming HORRIBLY slow?? On Tuesday 07 November 2006 10:55, Steve Kellogg @ Project SOC wrote: Are there any known conditions that I should be avoiding? Is the file itself very big ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to greatly cultivate compelling applications This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Clearing panels before changing state
- Original Message - From: stephen50232 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Clearing panels before changing state Hi, In my application when the user clicks the log out button, the currentState is changed, but before that I'd like to be able to clear all the TitleWindows that my still be opened by the user. Is there a way to force all the TitleWindows to close before changing the state? How about issuing a custom LOGOUT event that the windows can respond to? Paul Thanks Stephen -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Charting Survey
I think what the questions are saying is that the poll would have been 100% better with some examples, so there couldn't be a misunderstanding.. - Original Message - From: Matt Chotin To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:09 AM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex Charting Survey The former, the what's hot question. E.g., http://screening.nasdaq.com/heatmaps/heatmap_pmi.asp or what you see at http://www.labescape.com/ -- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hastings Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:52 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex Charting Survey On 12/14/06, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you use charts in Flex or do you think you may in the future? Please take 2 minutes to take a survey on possible chart types and enhancements for a future release. It's two questions and will take you to flex.org when complete. what's a heat map? like what's hot stock chart? or some kind of surface/contour one?
Re: [flexcoders] Re: An architectural blueprint for Flex applications
- Original Message - From: Oliver Lietz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: An architectural blueprint for Flex applications Am Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2006 09:53 schrieb devisbalsemin: yes we looked Cairngorm, but we think Cairngorm framework is an alternative (good)... We are not searching a fremework... but Flex Design Pattern for implement An architectural.. Thanks for your rply... There are no Flex Design Patterns but Design Patterns. Design Patterns are language independent. Yes, but Advanced ActionScript 3 with Design Patterns by Joey Lott is pretty darn good.. http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-ActionScript-3-Design-Patterns/dp/0321426568/sr=8-1/qid=1166537570/ref=sr_1_1/103-0521517-8384642?ie=UTF8s=books Paul -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Load swc instead of swf
Your original post said you were happy to load an external file, why couldn't it be an xml or html file? Paul - Original Message - From: ssundke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:08 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Load swc instead of swf Hey Lach, Loading XML files from where? I need to write an help html and im looking at the best way to write it without creating external dependancies. - Saba --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Lachlan Cotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Saba, What's wrong with just loading ordinary XML files? Cheers, Lach On 20/12/2006, at 10:12 PM, ssundke wrote: Ok.. so what do I do for this problem. I need to write some help files for my project and I need my swf to be standalone since it can be used. I didnt want to hardcode the html in one as file or mxml file, so I thought I would make a separate file for it and let it be loaded when it was needed. Since I need my swf to be standalone, I didnt want any dependancy on some other web resource. What are my alternatives? - Saba -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] source code of Training from the Source
I should think that everyone who has bought the book has it.. - Original Message - From: Shailesh Mangal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:30 AM Subject: [flexcoders] source code of Training from the Source Does any one have the source code of Adobe Flex2 - Training from the Source. sxm -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Any word on The RIA book??
- Original Message - From: Mike Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:04 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Any word on The RIA book?? The contents of this book have me extremely excited, and is integral to my project that I must finish up in the next couple months. What topic(s) specifically is making you so excited? Paul
Re: [flexcoders] Happy Eid Mubarak and New Year Wish
Good Message Sajid. May 2007 be a good year for all. Paul - Original Message - From: Sajid Hussain To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Happy Eid Mubarak and New Year Wish Hello In life we celebrate many events and today we have two great celebrations Eid and NEW YEAR together with such events we create our new hopes,ideas and we see success for coming days of life ,so wishing you greats event of life ,Happy New Year and Eid Mubarak with this pray May God brings happiness and success to your life Amen Thanks Sajid Hussain 92-321-2332623 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [flexcoders] ViewStates vs ViewStacks in App Control
- Original Message - From: Kevin Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:27 PM Subject: [flexcoders] ViewStates vs ViewStacks in App Control I am trying to build out a basic framework for my application and I have about 4 different screens that users can view depending on what they are trying to do in the applications: Welcome Graphics Login Screen Overview Screen Detailed View Screen Generate Reports Screen These screens don't share similar menus or components so I am thinking it is best to create a view stack for navigating between the different screens - Application ViewStack Welcome Graphics Login Screen Overview Screen Detailed View Screen Generate Reports Screen Perhaps: Application default state Welcome Graphics Login Screen Application logged on state ViewStack Overview Screen Detailed View Screen Generate Reports Screen Apart from the obvious logon situation I think states can work really well within components. Here are my questions: 1) If I do this, can I add a loader to each child of the ViewStack so that the user does not have to wait for the entire app to load in order to start the application? This already happens with components instantiated on demand as you run through the view stack. 2) I could also do this using ViewStates, but it seems to me that ViewStates are more useful when there are significant shared assets components between the different states. However, performance-wise would it be better to use one over the other? I would split the different 'screens' into separate flex components and add them into the viewstack. Having them as separate components makes the app much more modular - my designs are components nested within components like building bricks. Use events to communicate between components (or more properly your MVC architecture). 3) In the long run (should my application grow larger) would it be better to use a modular approach and load modules for each view? See how it goes - build as much as you need - when/if it gets slow, look again at re-architecting the application using components you have built. Don't make things more complicated than it needs to be. However because I am using Cairngorm would this add an extra layer of difficulty trying to maintain/share a ModelLocator, FrontController, etc between a number of different modules? Don't really see how Cairngorm would affect this. If you build in complication it will be complicated with or without Cairngorm. Paul Thanks for your advice. It always seems the design decisions are much more confusing than the actual coding!! - Kevin -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] ViewStates vs ViewStacks in App Control
- Original Message - From: Kevin Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] ViewStates vs ViewStacks in App Control Paul Andrews wrote: Here are my questions: 1) If I do this, can I add a loader to each child of the ViewStack so that the user does not have to wait for the entire app to load in order to start the application? This already happens with components instantiated on demand as you run through the view stack. Components will be instantiated on demand, but is there a way to prevent them from even downloading, until they are needed? No, but flash is a streaming format. If you look back on previous flecoders discussions, there was a similar question in this thread: Lazy loading components Paul Kevin N. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Flex + Struts
- Original Message - From: raul7s [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:52 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Flex + Struts All, I'm trying to incorporate FLEX front end into an already existing Struts/Hibernate/JSP application. However, there are COUPLE OF THINGS that I can't seem to figure out. 1) Are there any FLEX jar files that I'd need to add under WEB-INF folder or do I need to modify web.xml? If you're deploying Flex 2 without Flex Data Services, there aren't any jar files to worry about. 2) I don't want to re-write any struts action classes, and action forms. Having said that, how do i use session/request attributes being passed to my JSPs for my FLEX pages. You'll need some Javascript, but really just how do you propose to interact with the web page? When deployed, Flex is just like incorporating flash on a page. I think you should explain exactly what you're planning to do and how you'd like it to work. Paul The following article doesnt seem to explain configuring/installing FLEX with already existing web application. http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/struts.html Any Comments/Suggestions, Much appreciated, --RS -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Re: and I thought Adobe was a professional company. Whats going on with the upgrade
Patience is a virtue, Bruce. I'm sure they'll get there. - Original Message - From: boy_trike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: and I thought Adobe was a professional company. Whats going on with the upgrade And I stand PARTIALLY Corrected. Yes there is the bug list and the list of new features, but while the COMPILER options show the syntax and examples, the two big feature enhancements runtime stylesheet and modules both have a sentence without showing the syntax and / or examples. Where is one supposed to learn about them? Bruce --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, João Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fixed bugs? http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flex/2/ releasenotes_flex2_fds.html#fixedbugs http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flex/2/ releasenotes_flex201_sdk.html#fixedbugs what's new (like new properties and stuff like that)? http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flex/2/ releasenotes_flex201_sdk.html#whatsnew http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flex/2/ releasenotes_flex2_fds.html#whatsnew all at adobe website...and not at someones blog... João Fernandes On 06/01/07, boy_trike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its great that there is an upgrade to 2.0.1 So where is the READ ME telling us about the changes. (oh yea, you can find a web page that tells you that there is something called modules and you can now change style sheets dynamically. but where are: 1). The examples 2). The new syntax changes 3). The list of the 250 bugs that are fixed (or are we supposed to guess which ones they got?) We should NOT have to find out about these features on someones blog. This seems very amateurish to me. Bruce -- João Fernandes -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue
I don't have a Mac, but to me it seems a retrograde step to have separate PC and Mac licences. Other software I have allows usage on either platform and I can easily envisage a situation where developers might be working on PCs on one project then have to switch to a Mac for another company. Yes, I realise that you can develop on a PC then deploy on a Mac, but I've no doubt it will be a PIA for testing. Why can't the same licence work on any available platform? Paul - Original Message - From: matt wicks To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue Yeah I'm in the same boat ... -- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Gercken Sent: 06 January 2007 15:38 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue Hi, I down loaded the OS X release of Flex Builder 2 and installed it but it does not like my Windows license. Does anyone know whether there will be some sort of license exchange available? My charting license worked fine though. I bought the Windows version to bridge the gap until the OS X version was available. As soon as the Mac beta was out I switched and have not looked back. Don't tell me that I am going to have to fork out another 500 bucks just to be able to work on my operating system of choice... Regards, -bill
Re: [flexcoders] Poker game with FDS
Don't lose your shirt, would be my tip. ;-) I don't really see why a Poker game would be different to any other application. If you have no idea about programming a game, check out the Flash game books and adapt their strategy for AS3. Paul - Original Message - From: Alexander Tsoukias [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 1:16 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Poker game with FDS Hi all, What are the steps that come to your mind regarding building a Poker Game in FLEX using FDS? Tips, things to be carefull and consider, ideas, comments etc... Thanks, Alexander -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] layout like My Yahoo page?
I should think that just using a canvas and dragging the components around would do the trick - you'll need to code having them snap into place and take care of sizing/overlaps. I would imagine that would be the Ajax strategy too. Paul - Original Message - From: tinkiknit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: [flexcoders] layout like My Yahoo page? Hi Flexperts... me again! this time, a new question as far as i can tell since I didn't find anything like this in the archives... i'd like to create an application like the My Yahoo page where you can move around your components. We've currently got a canvas that contains several HDividedBox's and VDividedBox's but we'd like to be able to move them around, resize them, etc., sort of like what My Yahoo has...any idea if Flex has this built in or will we have to extend components to do this? I think My Yahoo is built using Ajax (correct me if I am wrong please) so figure Flex must have something similar or better? thanks for any help! Christine -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Flash simple question
The browser cache, wherever that happens to be.. - Original Message - From: Stembert Olivier (BIL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Flash simple question Hi all, When a swf file is downloaded to my computer, where is it stored? I mean where on the file system? Thanks Olivier - An electronic message is not binding on its sender. Any message referring to a binding engagement must be confirmed in writing and duly signed. - -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting
I saw rather a neat powerbook the other day and the idea of using a powerbook appealed until I realised I wouldn't be able to have flex on my main PC and on a Mac Powerbook with the same licence. Stick with the Dell then.. - Original Message - From: Shannon Hicks To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting I'm planning on switching to a Mac in a few months... Maybe I should start the process for switching my Flex license now, so I have it in time :) Shan Xavi Beumala wrote: I'm having the same problems here! It's incredible but I've been trying to transfer my win license to mac for the last 3 weeks, and today my trial has finally expired! I won't get my license in less than a week so... this means I can't work! really bad X. On 2/3/07, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll look into it. Matt Flex PM -- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Allen Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:46 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting To anyone at Adobe who's listening: I'm working on a Flex2 project for Scholastic http://scholastic.com and we are running into a wall in terms of getting our Flex Builder licenses transfered to the Macintosh platform. We purposely bought Windows versions knowing that it wouldn't be a problem to transfer the license when the Mac version became available. This licensing situation that we and others have experienced is completely unacceptable. John Dowdel, do you think that you can help us out a bit, or escalate the issue, as you did for others experiencing these problems? Or maybe Ted Patrick, you could let others there know that this is a major issue for people, and it should be addressed. Here are the issues that we are currently facing: 1. In order to transfer the license you have to be the authorized purchaser of the software and Adobe won't accept a request form the actual end user of the license. To make it worse Adobe won't tell us who that person is. At a rather large organization (10,000 + employees) like Scholastic, finding this authorized person is really difficult to do. 2. Even if we do find the person above, we are told that the process will take five days from the approved request before Adobe will issue the Mac license number. 3. Currently there's no way for us to extend the trial version until this is worked out. We either have to install the trial on another computer or just wait it out. It's a pitty that such a great piece of software has so many barriers and red tape to actually use it. Thanks very much for you attention to this issue. -Chris On 2/1/07, Brendan Meutzner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Transferring licenses doesn't seem to be the only issue. We've been using a trial Mac version which just expired and I put through the order for a Mac license online last night thinking we'd have a valid key within a few minutes (like we did for the PC version last summer)... Not quite... it immediately showed as pending last night, and remained that way this morning. So after 30 minutes on hold with customer support this morning, I'm told that the more expensive transactions are processed manually and that somebody would be reviewing the details within the next 2-3 days. WTF? Since when is a $499 FlexBuilder license expensive, and even so, why do they need to process manually? Really really not happy this morning... especially because it's pretty much impossible to find a temporary key for the Mac version (I didn't just say that though)... It's too bad that the fantastic relationship we have with the Adobe engineers can't spread over to the CS department a bit... Brendan On 1/25/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 24 January 2007 19:53, John Dowdell wrote: What you and Ethan describe doesn't seem acceptable to me either, but let me get some more information on this, and get back to the list when I do, good? Sounds great. Could you also try and find out if there are plans to just automate the whole process ? It strikes me that converting license betwen platforms shouldn't really require a human in the loop, if it's only done once. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to advantageously aggregate prospective experiences This email is sent for and on
Re: [flexcoders] Returning 'this' from an overridden method?
- Original Message -
From: David_Stafford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:12 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Returning 'this' from an overridden method?
Please pardon this simple-minded question from an AS3 novice.
My base class often returns 'this' from methods which makes it
convenient to write code like:
camera.move( 10, 12 ).rotateX( 45 ).rotateY( 90 );
The problem comes when code extends the base class and overrides one
of these functions. The compiler insists, correctly, that the return
type of an overriding function must match the one in the base class.
What I want to do is return the 'this' object that is of the type of
the derived class. Is this possible?
The following is a contrived example to demonstrate. It won't
compile because the overridden function in the derived class wants to
return a type of MyCamera rather than Camera:
This is the correct behaviour. The derived class is MyCamera and any
reference to this, either in the derived class or it's parent will be
working with an object of class MyCamera not Camera.
Make the return type Camera, then it will work. You will be returning an
object reference of class Camera, but in fact it is an object reference to
an object of class MyCamera. You can then cast it elsewhere as a 'MyCamera'
in the application.
The problem is that you are trying to change the signature of the method
that you are overriding.
Paul
public class Camera
{
var x:int = 0;
var y:int = 0;
public function move( x:int, y:int ) :Camera
{
this.x += x;
this.y += y;
return( this );
}
}
public class MyCamera extends Camera
{
override public function move( x:int, y:int ) :MyCamera
{
super.move( x, y );
if( x 0 ) x = 0;
if( y 0 ) y = 0;
return( this );
}
}
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Re: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting
- Original Message - From: Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting On Tuesday 06 Feb 2007, Paul Andrews wrote: I saw rather a neat powerbook the other day and the idea of using a powerbook appealed until I realised I wouldn't be able to have flex on my main PC and on a Mac Powerbook with the same licence. There's always Parllel / VMWare to run Windows on your Mac. LOL - shows what I know about Macs.. ;-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to competently pursue leading-edge ROI This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting
- Original Message - From: Shannon Hicks To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting And you can't run the same license of Flex Builder on two windows computers, either... One license per computer, what does it matter that one's a PC and the other's a Mac? I think not. From the licence:. 3.4 Portable or Home Computer Use. The primary user of the Computer on which the Software is installed may install a second copy of the Software for his or her exclusive use on either a portable Computer or a Computer located at his or her home, provided the Software on the portable or home Computer is not used at the same time as the Software on the primary Computer. Paul Shan snip
[flexcoders] properties in components..
OK, this is driving me nuts. I'm using Flex Builder 2.01 on a PC. I have a very simple component (say test.mxml), code below, where I set a label value on a button using actionscript. I can get this to compile very simply and we're all happy. As soon as I edit the main application(main.mxml) to include this component: comp:test /comp:test main.mxml is happy but now I get a compile error (access of undefined property) in test.mxml saying that the button id is an undefined property. When I edit the test.mxml code, flexbuilder will happily give me code hints about the properties after I've put in the button id. What's going on? Maybe I just need more coffee? Paul ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? mx:Canvas xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; width=400 height=300 mx:Script ![CDATA[ x.label=jim; ]] /mx:Script mx:Button id=x label=fred/ /mx:Canvas
Re: [flexcoders] properties in components..
Hi Rich,
This is just a test case of mine. I want to set the label of the button using
script, inside the component. Forget trying to set it in the main application.
There are no compile errors in the component code (make the id of the button
whatever you wish), until the component is included in the main application.
At that time any reference to the button is not recognised as a valid property
by the compiler, though the code hinting obliges nicely!
Paul
- Original Message -
From: Rich Tretola
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] properties in components..
The 1st problem is that you can not name your button id x as it is a reserved
word.
Not sure what you are trying to accomplish. If your goal is to be able to set
the label from the main application, you should do something like this:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Canvas xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; width=400
height=300
mx:Script
![CDATA[
[Bindable]
public var myLabel:String=jim;
]]
/mx:Script
mx:Button id=x1 label={myLabel}/
/mx:Canvas
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; layout=absolute
xmlns:local=*
local:Test myLabel=Rich/
/mx:Application
Rich
On 2/8/07, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, this is driving me nuts. I'm using Flex Builder 2.01 on a PC.
I have a very simple component (say test.mxml), code below, where I set a
label value on a button using actionscript.
I can get this to compile very simply and we're all happy.
As soon as I edit the main application(main.mxml) to include this component:
comp:test
/comp:test
main.mxml is happy but now I get a compile error (access of undefined
property) in test.mxml saying that the button id is an undefined property.
When I edit the test.mxml code, flexbuilder will happily give me code hints
about the properties after I've put in the button id.
What's going on? Maybe I just need more coffee?
Paul
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Canvas xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; width=400
height=300
mx:Script
![CDATA[
x.label=jim;
]]
/mx:Script
mx:Button id=x label=fred/
/mx:Canvas
--
Rich Tretola
mx:EverythingFlex/
http://www.EverythingFlex.com
Re: [flexcoders] cairngorm event that will affect all models, where to put the logic.
Why should the part of the app with the date control know that a get data event is required? Paul - Original Message - From: Dimitrios Gianninas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:38 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] cairngorm event that will affect all models, where to put the logic. the part of the app that holds the date control... Dimitrios Gianninas Optimal Payments Inc. -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Grant Davies Sent: Sun 2/18/2007 11:42 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] cairngorm event that will affect all models, where to put the logic. The question was, who should fire that event ? The date change view fires the change date event and a command updates the model for the date.. Who should then fire the get new data event, the commmand, the main.xml, I think its some central part of the app that should do that... Grant. ... b l u e t u b e i n t e r a c t i v e. .: grant davies .: 404.428.6839 (c) .: 708-983-1577 (F) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bluetube.com/bti -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitrios Gianninas Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:27 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] cairngorm event that will affect all models, where to put the logic. When the date changes, fire off the same event that will execute the command that got you data in the first place, should be simple. Dimitrios Gianninas Optimal Payments Inc. -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Grant Davies Sent: Sat 2/17/2007 10:34 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] cairngorm event that will affect all models, where to put the logic. Hey guys, have a cairngorm architecture question. I have a dashboard where various charts are based on a global date. I have my datemodel and commands etc that update the datemodel based on the date event being fired. What I also need to happen is if the date changes, I need to get fresh data for the charts, the charts are attached to models for their specific type of data. so when a date change occurs, i need to go and get the relevant data for the charts , which updates their models, I'm not sure where i should subscribe to this change of date since I don't want to make it chart specific. Should it be in the overall application controller, in the main.mxml file or what ? this event is more like a if the date changes referesh all the data for all the models Grant ... b l u e t u b e i n t e r a c t i v e. .: grant davies .: 404.428.6839 (c) .: 708-983-1577 (F) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bluetube.com/bti http://www.bluetube.com/bti A Tribal Chicken Designs Affiliate http://www.tribalchicken.com/ -- WARNING --- This electronic message and its attachments may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information, which is solely for the use of the intended recipient. No privilege or other rights are waived by any unintended transmission or unauthorized retransmission of this message. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if you have received it in error, you should immediately stop reading this message and delete it and all attachments from your system. The reading, distribution, copying or other use of this message or its attachments by unintended recipients is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender. AVIS IMPORTANT -- Ce message électronique et ses pièces jointes peuvent contenir des renseignements confidentiels, exclusifs ou légalement privilégiés destinés au seul usage du destinataire visé. L'expéditeur original ne renonce à aucun privilège ou à aucun autre droit si le présent message a été transmis involontairement ou s'il est retransmis sans son autorisation. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire visé du présent message ou si vous l'avez reçu par erreur, veuillez cesser immédiatement de le lire et le supprimer, ainsi que toutes ses pièces jointes, de votre système. La lecture, la distribution, la copie ou tout autre usage du présent message ou de ses pièces jointes par des personnes autres que le destinataire visé ne sont pas autorisés et pourraient être illégaux. Si vous avez reçu ce courrier électronique par erreur, veuillez en aviser l'expéditeur. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Quick Question
- Original Message -
From: Kumar
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:35 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Quick Question
Hi All,
Just a quick one guys just had a little confusion in two statements below
First:
mx:Button x=23 y=242 label=Button click=myFunction() /
This is just calling myFynction() in response to the button click.
Second:
mx:Button x=23 y=242 label=Button click={myFunction()} /
Here, you have the same as above, but you are (for some reason) trying to wrap
the function call in a binding which is having no effect in this context, so
the effect is the same.
Perhaps some research on Flex binding will help.
Paul
Both Buttons give the same result.
Just a bit confused.
Re: [flexcoders] Quick Question
There's no point in having binding braces, in either example.
Paul
- Original Message -
From: Roman Protsiuk
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Quick Question
As far as I remember someone once told me... :)
When you write:
mx:Button x=23 y=242 label=Button click={myFunction()} /
or
mx:Button x=23 y=242 label=Button click={foo = bar;} /
the event handler (function) is generated dynamically.
So writing
mx:Button x=23 y=242 label=Button click={myFunction()} /
means that some method will be generated by compiler and it will call
myFunction().
If you don't use braces myFunction used for handling event and no additional
function is generated.
Am I right?
R.
On 2/20/07, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Kumar
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:35 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Quick Question
Hi All,
Just a quick one guys just had a little confusion in two statements below
First:
mx:Button x=23 y=242 label=Button click=myFunction() /
This is just calling myFynction() in response to the button click.
Second:
mx:Button x=23 y=242 label=Button click={myFunction()} /
Here, you have the same as above, but you are (for some reason) trying to
wrap the function call in a binding which is having no effect in this context,
so the effect is the same.
Perhaps some research on Flex binding will help.
Paul
Both Buttons give the same result…
Just a bit confused…
Re: [flexcoders] Flex and Java
The short answer is No. Your java world link describes using flash as a presentation tier connected to a java j2ee server, which is quite different from embedding Flash or Flex. Paul - Original Message - From: thierrybertossa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Flex and Java Is it possible to embed swf in java application? And call method between them? http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-01-2003/jw-0117-flash.html if not with flex perhaps with flash 6 7 8 ? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Apollo (Should Adobe Keep the Name)
I must be old - I was thinking where I'd heard of Apollo before (besides mythology and the space program) and I remembered there used to be a range of unix servers called Apollo. Now I've completely lost 95% of this list.. OK, mind barf is now over.. Paul - Original Message - From: Mike Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Apollo (Should Adobe Keep the Name) Yes. We also really like the Apollo name, but for various reasons we cannot use it as the final name. Apollo is just a code name, and will not be the final name. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brendan Meutzner wrote: So Rich, I think this poll/campaign is unfortunately going to futile. Although they're still keeping mum about the final name, Kevin Lynch assured the attendees at Apollo Camp last night that the name was 'very cool' I guess we just need to stay tuned... Brendan -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Can flex write to local file system
- Original Message - From: carltondickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Can flex write to local file system Hi guys, I under stand Flex is for RIA but if it's just an embedded swf file within HTML can it not just be used for desktop apps. All I would like to do is write an XML file (based on the work the user has done via my flex app) to a folder on the file system, is this possible? No. Is it possible for Flex to write to the local file system or is this something that Apollo will take care off. As you say, Apollo will take care of this. Apparently zinc might help too.. http://www.multidmedia.com/ Paul Also do any users have any idea on how long it will be before we can expect the first release of Apollo (Not including the current alpha one) Thanks for reading, C -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Accurate timing with flash
- Original Message - From: mark_nankman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:09 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Accurate timing with flash How accurately can operations be scheduled in Flash. For example, I want to be able to perform a particular operation on a number of separate, unconnected clients on exactly the same moment(e.g. they should start blinking a piece of info at exactly the same moment with the same blinking frequency). Can this be guaranteed with Flash? If not, is there a way around it? If they are unconnected, presumably you could just use the clock.. It's almost impossible to guarantee with anything, let alone flash that everything happens at exactly the same time. The devices they are running on may have different clock settings (some slow, some fast). If you rely on them polling a server, the connection may fail. Perhaps you have an example of what you want to do? Paul Regards, Mark -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] The difference...
- Original Message - From: Ed Capistrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:18 PM Subject: [flexcoders] The difference... Im a newbie in flex but I did studied developing flash apps(mainly for the web)including its language as2.0. I wonder whats with flex and flash appz? Any significant diff. between the two? I think you would get your best answer by spending ten minutes on the adobe web site looking at the examples that are presented there including the walkthroughs of making a simple application. Flex has a markup language (similar in some respects to JSP, though different in others) that you can use to create applications and components, in preference to the timeline (which it doesn't have). If you code Flash actionscript and don't use the timeline, the main difference will be Actionscript 3 versus Actionscript 2 and a different class library/API. Paul Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Will Microsoft's new Silverlight Player Kill our beloved Flex ?
- Original Message - From: Scott Barnes To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Will Microsoft's new Silverlight Player Kill our beloved Flex ? Yup, different is the word. There is overlap with FLEX and AJAX, but since we can't pin a brand against AJAX it doesn't really rate in the papers. That being said, when AJAX kicked off people snip snip The way i see it (correct me if i'm wrong) either way You folks win, let the brands fight out the PR for a change as we (all) can only go up, not down right?. There's life after Microsoft, I just hope its much more exciting than it has been in the last 5 years is all ;) Scott Agnostic Evangelist Microsoft hehee - there will be complaints. Stupidly I read it all. I still don't know what you were trying to say, and I suspect neither did you. Please don't enlighten me either! Paul (I suspect incompatible dlls may have something to do with it)
Re: [flexcoders] Moderator
From the yahoo group page: [EMAIL PROTECTED] should get to the right person.
Paul
- Original Message -
From: Paul Tunnicliffe {mdm}
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 2:28 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Moderator
Hi,
Does anyone know who the moderator of this group is?
Thanks all!
Paul T
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex and SQL
- Original Message - From: Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex and SQL On Friday 07 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know where you heard that. Flex runs inside the Flash Player, which has no ability to load any java classes, certainly not JDBC drivers, because it's not Java. But you're HTML wrapper can certainly load Java, and you can talk across that ... For some reason my mailbox hasn't seen the earlier posts in this thread. Just because you can, would you really recommend it? The thing that really drew me to Flex is that it held the promise of less string and stickytape in building applications, yet I am constantly surprised at how people still mix Flex with so much other stuff that it seems string and stickytape lives and prospers. Paul -- Tom Chiverton Helping to competently deploy user-centric metrics on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] What do this error mean? 1195
Try rdo.group = rdoGroup; Your syntax is a method call. Paul - Original Message - From: Troy Simpson To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:09 PM Subject: [flexcoders] What do this error mean? 1195 I am attempting to use ActionScript to create a RadioButtonGroup and assign RadioButtons to the Group, but when I try to add a radio button to a group I get an error. code: var rdoGroup:RadioButtonGroup = new RadioButtonGroup(): var rdo:RadioButton = new RadioButton(); rdo.group(rdoGroup); error: 1195: Attempted access of inaccessible method group through a reference with static type mx.controls:RadioButton. I don't understand the error message. Could someone explain this to me? Thanks, -- Troy Simpson
Re: [flexcoders] Global variable - Best Practice
You could use a static Class/Singleton to give you a single variable accessible from anywhere. Paul - Original Message - From: Ben Marchbanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 11:01 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Global variable - Best Practice I have an application in which I current set a [Bindable] variable baseURL to the application URL. I have been accessing this variable from other components in the app using this.parentDocument.baseURL. This is a clunky solution since components may have their own children so I windup with this.parentDocument.parentDocument.baseURL - What is the best way to create and reference an application wide variable ? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] caching in Flex
- Original Message - From: seemaherein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: [flexcoders] caching in Flex hi, I have a flex application which is making http service calls to java code. Which is executing queries on oracle database and fetching large no of results. Investigate adding server code to filter/amalagamete those results to reduce the volume. If you are displaying data for a week, just get a weeks worth of data, etc. If you can consider whether you need all the data in one chunk. If you can split the data and use the parts independently, you can at least give the end user something to look at while data is loading. Store the returned data in a local data structure/cache. It doesn't have to be a local shared object. Consider implementing a cache on the server side. That will potentially reduce DB queries too. To invalidate a local client-side Flex cache, consider using a push-technology so that the server can inform the client that data is invalid and should be removed from the local cache. Withouth a push-technology, consider invalidating the cache on the basis of a stale data timestamp. Depending on how critical this is, have a client side cache in flex and a server side cache. The server side cache will minimise DB queries for multiple clients, the client side cache will minimise transfer for a particular client. that is very time consuming. This application is just a reporting tool so it doesn't make any updations to the database but only reads data. My question is that how can i implement caching in Flex so that for same kind of query it doesn't go to database and all. A cache is basically a data structure to hold data ready for repeated use, so it's structure can be anything that you want. In the past I've made them by using a combination of three things: 1) a signature that represents the cache query (for example a combined string for a date and department number that represents a unique key for the data set being requested), 2) a timestamp for the query (so it can be purged when stale), 3) an object to hold the query dataset. If the cache is interrogated with a signature not seen before, the query continues on to the server or database. If the signature is found, the dataset object is returned from the cache. Tom has already given the simplest form of cache! Paul Please help. thanks in advance.
Re: [flexcoders] web cam live feed
The subject line alone almost made me delete the post without opening it.. - Original Message - From: flashcrow2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:49 AM Subject: [flexcoders] web cam live feed Hello all, I know this is quite large, but can someone please point out what technologies I need, and how can I build a webcam live feed? Basically, I will have a laptop with a webcam, and users will be able to connect at any time and watch live. This will be used for promoting new products in more locations in the same time, so probably we are not talking about video conferencing. If any of you can point me to a tutorial on this, it would be great. Thanks guys, Cosmin -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Re: web cam live feed
I get a lot of spam (partcularly on an old email account) that invites me to take a look at lonely bored girls. They often have a subject line that's similar to yours. Surely it's not just me? Paul - Original Message - From: flashcrow2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:59 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: web cam live feed can i ask why? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The subject line alone almost made me delete the post without opening it.. - Original Message - From: flashcrow2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:49 AM Subject: [flexcoders] web cam live feed Hello all, I know this is quite large, but can someone please point out what technologies I need, and how can I build a webcam live feed? Basically, I will have a laptop with a webcam, and users will be able to connect at any time and watch live. This will be used for promoting new products in more locations in the same time, so probably we are not talking about video conferencing. If any of you can point me to a tutorial on this, it would be great. Thanks guys, Cosmin -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Re: caching in Flex
Remember to have a way to turn the cache on and off - then you can measure how effective it is. Naturally, it takes time to fill a cache with enough results before it becomes effective. A server side cache is effectively saving you the time involved in a database query (for all clients), but not saving you any transfer time for the results ( which may be significant for large amounts of data). I don't think that you ever said what large was! A client-side cache would save you db access time and transfer time, but only for that specific client. Let us know how good the improvement is! Paul - Original Message - From: seemaherein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:11 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: caching in Flex Thanks Paul Tom I'm planning to implement server side cache.
Re: [flexcoders] Use two DataBase tables values in a Datagrid
- Original Message - From: jack4sol [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:18 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Use two DataBase tables values in a Datagrid The issue is I need to populate values from 2 tables, one needs to be a list of names(from 1 table) and the other a dropdown box containing dynamic values(and this needs to be done from another table) Mainly, gettin 2 columns from different tables in one grid...is this possible firstly? Please suggest ways to do the same.. You don't say how the data is getting from the database to the flex app. You could have a view on the database that includes the columns from two tables. Server-side you could read from the two tables and amalagmate the data before passing to flex. You could pass the data separately to flex from the server and amalgamate it there. or You could.. Paul
Re: [flexcoders] Could people watch their subject lines ?
It's just you.. ;-) - Original Message - From: Paul Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:40 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Could people watch their subject lines ? Sorry - I think I am a culprit! Is it just me or does the flexcoders emails always have [SPAM] in front of the subject? -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Chiverton Sent: 19 September 2007 09:56 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Could people watch their subject lines ? I'm as much a fan on Monty Python as anyone else, but trying to scan down a list of messages with subject lines like Re: [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] is a total pain :-) -- Tom Chiverton, SPA-A-A-A-A-A-A-AM, SPA-A-A-A-A-A-A-AM, LOVELY SPAM, LOVELY SPAM ! This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Re: caching in Flex
One last thing. If you write anything away, the data in the cache will become stale unless it's updated, or the cached data is removed. If you have a client side cache and don't handle this, you could have two different clients having a different view of the data (one a stale cached version, the other an up to date version). If you have data in a server side cache that is stale, all of the clients will be showing out of date information.. Good luck. Paul - Original Message - From: seemaherein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:25 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: caching in Flex sure, i'll let you know. I am a starter with all this. and really thankful to you for your valuable suggestions --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember to have a way to turn the cache on and off - then you can measure how effective it is. Naturally, it takes time to fill a cache with enough results before it becomes effective. A server side cache is effectively saving you the time involved in a database query (for all clients), but not saving you any transfer time for the results ( which may be significant for large amounts of data). I don't think that you ever said what large was! A client-side cache would save you db access time and transfer time, but only for that specific client. Let us know how good the improvement is! Paul - Original Message - From: seemaherein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:11 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: caching in Flex Thanks Paul Tom I'm planning to implement server side cache. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Flash and ColdFusion Time Differences
- Original Message - From: Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:15 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Flash and ColdFusion Time Differences In Flash, the hour portion of a time value is stored in the range 0 to 23. An example of a time I have stored in my MySQL database is 17:00. When I read this time with ColdFusion I get 5:00PM which makes me believe that ColdFusion thinks that noon is 12:00. Which it is. However, in Flash noon is 11:00. It is? What is the proper way to handle this? Thanks in advance. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] need advice - html to mxml
- Original Message - From: seemaherein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:52 AM Subject: [flexcoders] need advice - html to mxml Hi, the developer working previously on my application has coded an index.html which has various url's. each url takes to an mxml application. If i am correct we should have only one mxml application file. Can anybody advice if i can convert this index.html in an mxml application file Now this post worries me a bit. Usually you would expect there to be one mxml application and everything working from that, but there could be reasons why this hasn't been done - search engine optimization, having the ability to bookmark separate parts of the application, building a mini-application portlet type infrastructure, etc. You would need to know how the various parts are constructed to know if they will work together well as part of a single application. The worrying part is that if you're not sure about this fairly basic issue, how will you add a cacheing mechanism? Paul
Re: [flexcoders] Anyone have any good Flex Projects with sourceCode?
It seems to me that if you 'did' total training and lynda.com, then you shouldn't be practicing, you should be doing.. Paul - Original Message - From: Sheriff To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Anyone have any good Flex Projects with sourceCode? i am like stuck in the intermidate learning curve and i am running out of material to practice on, so does anyone know where i can learn more about flex or what sites. i did totaltraining, and lynda so waht else is there -- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Parsing a flat file in flex?
My guess is that the OP will have the records inside a single string and so
will need to iterate through the string picking out the individual fields from
the spaces between them.
Paul
- Original Message -
From: Giles Roadnight
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Parsing a flat file in flex?
Something liek this:
var records:Array // I'm assuming an array or arrays from your post
var dataProvider:ArrayCollection = new ArrayCollection();
for (var i:int = 0; i records.length; i++)
{
var currentObject:Object = new Object();
for (var j:int = 0; j records[i].length; i++)
{
currentObject[col + j] = records[i][j];
}
dataProvider.addItem(currentObject);
}
then the grid:
mx:DataGrid id=dg width=100%
height=100% rowCount=5 dataProvider={dataProvider}
mx:columns
mx:DataGridColumn dataField=col0
headerText=Date textAlign=center /
mx:DataGridColumn dataField=col1
headerText=Date textAlign=center /
ect, I hope that helps
On 9/20/07, djdyland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I understand what your saying.. but I'm not sure how to do that in
actionscript? anyway you can just show me how you would do this part
turn each line into an object with properites (e.g. col1, col2 or
whatever you like
Thanks in advance
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Giles Roadnight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If you turn each line into an object with properites (e.g. col1,
col2 or
whatever you like, somethign more descriptive perhaps) put all
these objects
into an ArrayCollection and use this ArrayCollection as the
dataprovider for
your grid.
In the datagrid use the property names of the object as the
datafield for
each column.
On 9/20/07, djdyland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Gordon,
Thanks for the reply. I got it to work using split like you said.
I'm now stuck trying to put the data in a datagrid. The data is
now
in an array but I'm not sure how you reference each element for a
column in the data provider or the data grid.
The data looks something like this
(Record 1)
09/17/07 element 0
245 element 1
37 etc
36
44
194
100
2
45
4
462
63906
(record 2)
09/18/07
263
41
34
43
197
95
1
45
3
459
63906
And my datagrid would be
mx:DataGrid id=dg width=100%
height=100% rowCount=5 dataProvider={array}
mx:columns
mx:DataGridColumn
headerText=Date textAlign=center /
mx:DataGridColumn
headerText=CoreTechInit textAlign=center/
mx:DataGridColumn
headerText=ServerInit textAlign=center/
mx:DataGridColumn
headerText=ImportPackets textAlign=center/
mx:DataGridColumn
headerText=Merge textAlign=center/
mx:DataGridColumn
headerText=Layout textAlign=center/
mx:DataGridColumn
headerText=Render textAlign=center/
mx:DataGridColumn
headerText=CalcTime textAlign=center/
mx:DataGridColumn
headerText=RenderOverhead textAlign=center/
mx:DataGridColumn
headerText=AppOverhead textAlign=center/
mx:DataGridColumn
headerText=Total textAlign=center/
mx:DataGridColumn
headerText=FileSize textAlign=center/
/mx:columns
/mx:DataGrid
So my question now is How do I associate each array element with
its
proper place holder in the datagrid?? Do I have to create and
associative array or something? I'm assuming it has something to
do
with the datafield of each column?
Any help is greaty appreciated
Thanks
Dylan
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%
40yahoogroups.com, Gordon
Smith gosmith@
wrote:
Is this a file on the server whose contents you're getting as
a big
String? If so, you could probably just use the split() method
of
String
to first split on carriage-return or newline, and then split
each
line
on whitespace.
- Gordon
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%
40yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of djdyland
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:36 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Parsing a flat file in flex?
Can anyone point me in the direction of how this might be done?
I want to parse or convert a flat file separated by spaces into
xml or
some sort of structure
Re: [flexcoders] Anyone have any good Flex Projects with sourceCode?
There always will be a lot to learn. Learning never stops. The way I work is this. I know generally what a technology can do. I know it well enough to do most of the things I need to do. I don't worry about the things I don't know really well, because I may never need to use them, but I know that if I did I would be able to pick them up really quickly. If I learn a new technology I know that my second application is going to be better than the first. I also know that my second application can't be good unless I make mistakes with the first. The important things to know are the basics - what flex can do and how to structure an application. The finer details of all the flex classes you can learn as you go along. If you've really done all that training, you should be ready to go. Pick a project and make it work. Paul - Original Message - From: Sheriff To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Anyone have any good Flex Projects with sourceCode? ya but the problem is i dont know what to do, like i have no idea, i even did the projects provided by adobe but there is still alot more to learn - Original Message From: Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:15:26 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Anyone have any good Flex Projects with sourceCode? It seems to me that if you 'did' total training and lynda.com, then you shouldn't be practicing, you should be doing.. Paul - Original Message - From: Sheriff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Anyone have any good Flex Projects with sourceCode? i am like stuck in the intermidate learning curve and i am running out of material to practice on, so does anyone know where i can learn more about flex or what sites. i did totaltraining, and lynda so waht else is there Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. -- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
Re: [flexcoders] Eeeeek! Development grinds to a halt due to stupid syntax problem
Why do you have to use the database field names inside the flex application? - Original Message - From: candysmate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Ek! Development grinds to a halt due to stupid syntax problem My client's database contains hash symbols as part of the field name(s). So a line like: var selectedGrowerAddress2:String = StringUtil.trim(String(event.currentTarget.growerSearchGrid.selectedItem.ADDRESS_LINE#2)); throws a compiler syntax error: expecting a semicolon before the 2. How can I get around this please? No, renaming the client's daatabase fields is NOT an option. Their main app uses this. My bespoke Flex app runs parallel to it. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Eeeeek! Development grinds to a halt due to stupid syntax problem
- Original Message - From: candysmate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 6:12 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Ek! Development grinds to a halt due to stupid syntax problem --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you have to use the database field names inside the flex application? What alternative approach would you suggest Paul? I use them to help me keep track of everything, as I'm using both a MS SQL database and an ODBC linked database to a proprietry format. I'm open to alternative method suggestions. I'd be looking to try and map the fieldnames to something more acceptable, perhaps switch that # for an underscore, or _h_. I used to specialise in DB development and have yet to see a schema with field names with a hash in them (not that that's your fault - it's just your problem). Depending on the DB, it might be possible to define a 1:1 view that could map the field names. Paul
Re: [flexcoders] Here we go again: Flex Vs Java
- Original Message - From: Giles Roadnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:11 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Here we go again: Flex Vs Java I am leaving my current job in about a month and a suggestion has been made that as I am leaving it would be better to re-write our flex / coldfusion sites in jsp and java as that is what the larger company as a whole uses. I need some couter arguments but don't know enough about Java. Replacing coldfusion with jsp is less of an issue but I Think that Flex is very well suited for the front end. The site I've worked with most is used for managing customer accounts and viewing information about them. There are screen for ssearchign for accounts, setting up accounts with e-mail lists and a lot of reports. Basically most of the site loads data and displays it in datagrids. What arguments can we use to convince people that flex is the way to go rather than jsp / java? Seems to me that you are comparing a client-side technology (Flex) with a server-side technology(JSP). If you are going to talk about JSP, it has to be allied with some other technology - HTML, Javascript, Ajax, Java applets, etc. You could even have JSP and Flex, since all JSP does is enable delivery of a response/page to the browser. JSP has nothing to do with client-side pages apart from traditionally being used to programmatically build HTML pages. The real argument is Flex versus the string and stickytape of HTML/Ajax. I have personally rewritten coldfusion code to replace it with the JSP/Java equivalent. That shouldn't be any danger to Flex at all and you could point out that Flex front ends are not dependent on coldfusion. It's a bizarre decision to have a company ditch a well-received, proven technology in favour of an old technology traditionally used for serving HTML pages (but I know personally how some companies work - it's more about stakeholders and their empires) I think your boss should reverse the tables and ask why the rest of the company is still using such an old technology when the future lies elsewhere. He really needs to try and put together something that'll make their jaws drop. Think of something that would be easy in Flex but a *** to do otherwise and let him give a presentation. Why don't you give a presentation on your app to the technology guys in the company to get them onside. Most people would love to learn new technologies. It's a pity that you're going. Sounds like you would have been in prime position to help push this technology. In short, I think your boss shouldn't defend Flex, he should question why you still use older technologies.. Paul Thanks Giles
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Here we go again: Flex Vs Java
- Original Message - From: gers32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:37 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Here we go again: Flex Vs Java I apologize for oversimplifying. Just trying to give a developer an argument his boss will understand. I didn't think anyone would take this out of that context. Chris. snip web 2.0 stuff Chris, It might be interesting to know the background to your project. Did you choose Flex without your boss realising, or did he sanction it? How has your progress been in relation to using other technologies? Paul
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Here we go again: Flex Vs Java
Sorry Giles. Thanks for the info. What I was hoping for was some evidence that doing this in Flex was demonstrably more efficent in development terms than an equivalent project in other technologies. If your boss is looking for arguments to support his case, it sounds as though he wasn't the prime mover that brought flex in or he'd probably already been aware of the good arguments. Way before using Flex I used to use a proprietary OO RAD tool that integrated with databases. At the time I was writing a persistence layer in C++ accessing a database. The client had a small job that needed doing in addition to the main project and the GUI developer was too busy with mainstream work. I offered to do it with the RAD tool. This was sanctioned sinced it was a throwaway thing and they had little choice. A week or so later the client came to see the completed application. His comment was I wasn't expecting to see anything this sophisticated. which went down well with my management, even though they didn't approve of the RAD tool (I was the only developer in that company with experience of it). A while later the original GUI developer left and it took six weeks (I kid you not) to locate a fault in the C++ GUI code. I said I could replicate the complete C++ GUI interface (probably getting on for a almost a year old by then) with the RAD tool within a month. Which I did. The point is that while management didn't like this tool they could see the benefits from using it in spite of their prejudice against it. I'd like to say the whole company used this technology afterwards, but they didn't - projects were run autonomously and eventually (for other reasons) the project was canned. In some ways I sense you have a similar situation with Flex. One thing I didn't mention is this: The management really didn't want the tool used, so during the project they brought in a couple of guys from another company who were touting a similar improved technology (they worked from a start-up whose founders had been part of the original development team for the technology I was using). I had a feeling that management would have been happier to use this improved technology they had found rather than accept what they saw as defeat by using what they had argued against. These days I think the way to introduce new technology is to wow and enthuse the internal development teams with the benefits so they see that it's good for them to step onboard. Would you be confident enough to give a lunchtime talk on Flex perhaps to get them onboard? Good luck, Paul - Original Message - From: Giles Roadnight To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Here we go again: Flex Vs Java Did you mean Giles? I'll assume you did. I was recruited as a Flex / Coldfusion developer to replace the old one who left. The larger business uses java and has always been trying to get my boss to do the same rather than doing his own thing. It looks like it might take a while to replace me so the business has suggested re-doing the sites in java so that people from other sections can maintain it if necessary. Hope that explains it. Giles On 9/28/07, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: gers32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 6:37 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Here we go again: Flex Vs Java I apologize for oversimplifying. Just trying to give a developer an argument his boss will understand. I didn't think anyone would take this out of that context. Chris. snip web 2.0 stuff Chris, It might be interesting to know the background to your project. Did you choose Flex without your boss realising, or did he sanction it? How has your progress been in relation to using other technologies? Paul -- Giles Roadnight http://giles.roadnight.name
Re: [flexcoders] Sleep() method
- Original Message - From: essuark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Sleep() method Is this something like a sleep or wait method? A method that holds processing for 'n' seconds? I could use a timer but that doesn't stop the processing. thanks r What processing are you trying to stop and why?
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 3 Beta 2 Expired
Apparently, after the trial expires you need to own Flex 2.0 to continue. Paul - Original Message - From: Fabián Brussa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:05 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Flex 3 Beta 2 Expired Hello, I have the version Flex 3 Beta 1 that I expire yesterday. Today I uninstall it. Soon I download Flex 3 Beta 2 and I installed it, and when it initiates show that the evaluation version has expired. As I can solve the problem? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Sleep() method
Traditionally, a sleep() function stops the code in it's tracks and then resumes after a delay. Timer Events can't give you exactly that behaviour. I can understand wanting to delay processing for a while, but in an event driven environment it may not be what's needed. Usually I associate timed events with doing screen updates for animation, or timing out some pending event that's taking too long. I was curious what the OPs intention was since they explicitly asked about stopping processing. Paul - Original Message - From: Willy Ci To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Sleep() method there is a lot of use for sleep function. you can try use flash.events.TimerEvent write your own sleep(). as3 doesn't have it own sleep function. Willy On 9/28/07, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: essuark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Sleep() method Is this something like a sleep or wait method? A method that holds processing for 'n' seconds? I could use a timer but that doesn't stop the processing. thanks r What processing are you trying to stop and why? -- Willy -- maybe today is a good day to write some code, hold on, late me take a nap first ... Zzzz Q: How do you spell google? A: Why don't you google it? --
Re: [flexcoders] Thermo Cairngorm
- Original Message - From: hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:39 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Thermo Cairngorm Do any adobe folks know whether thermo will easily support the cairngorm architecture? Ideally I would like to either replace (or ideally enhance) my view classes with thermo and keep all by business and communications logic exactly the same as it is now. Will this transition to Thermo workflow be supported? Hank From the videos, I would surmise that Thermo is a very nice screen design tool, but doesn't automatically include anything else besides basic interactions. You just need to add the other architectural layers (as per cairngorm) yourself. It really doesn't seem to affect business and communications logic at all. I'm not sure what transition is required. It replaces aspects of the current flexbuilder design view and includes extra functionality and intelligent importation of graphical elements. Paul
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Thermo Cairngorm
- Original Message - From: candysmate [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 1:08 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Thermo Cairngorm From the videos, I would surmise that Thermo is a very nice screen design tool, but doesn't automatically include anything else besides basic interactions. You just need to add the other architectural layers (as per cairngorm) yourself. It really doesn't seem to affect business and communications logic at all. I'm not sure what transition is required. It replaces aspects of the current flexbuilder design view and includes extra functionality and intelligent importation of graphical elements. Paul Videos? I couldn't see them on / around the Adobe Thermo page(s). Could you post a link please? http://mrsteel.wordpress.com/2007/10/03/thermo-sneak-peek-video-from-max-chicago-2007-keynote-video/ Check out David mendels earlier link.. http://snipurl.com/1rp0z Paul best, Graham
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Thermo Cairngorm
I think it's too early to infer that thermo is just for designers or whether it'll be a separate product or the a replacement for flex design view. Currently, I find it quite scary how good Adobe is at extracting money from me.. Paul - Original Message - From: dbronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:19 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Thermo Cairngorm A question... Why another designer? Why not add the Thermo features into FlexBuilder or Flash? To think that only designers will use this tool is short-sighted. Developers will definitely also like to see these features as once the development begins, the lines between the designers and developers becomes blurred. And, on many projects, the designers and developers are the same people and now we will need to swap between IDE's. I don't know about Thermo, but Eclipse is not very friendly with resources and it is simply more convenient to have it in a single IDE. Dale --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Matt, It is as I would have guessed. As long as you guys have it as a design goal you can for sure work it out. But I am sure you will find a fair number of gotchas. Hank On 10/4/07, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea is that Thermo would not corrupt any code from the file that it is working on because we want designers and developers to be able to work on the same files. But obviously as you get deeper into development it may be that a designer has to be a little more careful as they make modifications since there will now be dynamic code dependent on the UI. But we're very early here so as we build the product out we'll want to test these kinds of scenarios very carefully. *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *hank williams *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:13 PM *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Thermo Cairngorm Yeah, thats why my initial post said Do any adobe folks know whether... :) Hank On 10/4/07, *Merrill, Jason* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think anyone knows the answer to that yet (at least from the Max demo) - except Adobe people and a few Adobe insiders. Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO Learning Leadership Development eTools Multimedia Team -- *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *hank williams *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2007 4:58 PM *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Thermo Cairngorm Hmmm... Thanks Jason, but I am not sure you quite got the gist of my question. Perhaps I was unclear. I was under no illusion that one would be creating business logic in Thermo. My question is whether the workflow between caringorm delegates, commands, etc and the Thermo UI code will be easily maintained separately. Will we be able to embed cairngorm commands and model access in the UI stuff that is generated by Thermo. Will the round-tripping work. Does the conceived work flow target the cairngorm developer along side the designer in a smooth way. Hank On 10/4/07, *Merrill, Jason* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was there for the Thermo demo (which was awesome), and they basically said Thermo is for designing Flex apps and jump-starting the basic interactivity between components - it's not going to be targeted at doing the full-blown architecture/business logic/coding of am MXML app. You can have a designer work with Thermo, while the developer works with Flex. Jason Merrill Bank of America GTO Learning Leadership Development eTools Multimedia Team -- *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Paul Andrews *Sent:* Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:46 AM *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Thermo Cairngorm - Original Message - From: hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] hank777%40gmail.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:39 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Thermo Cairngorm Do any adobe folks know whether thermo will easily support the cairngorm architecture? Ideally I would like to either replace (or ideally enhance) my view classes with thermo and keep all by business and communications logic exactly the same as it is now. Will this transition to Thermo workflow be supported? Hank From the videos, I would surmise that Thermo is a very nice screen design tool, but doesn't automatically include anything else besides basic interactions. You just need to add the other architectural layers (as per cairngorm) yourself. It really doesn't seem to affect business
Re: [flexcoders] Opening a Flex 2 project in Flex 3?
- Original Message - From: Ken Bromberger To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:48 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Opening a Flex 2 project in Flex 3? Hi all, I'm trying to open a project built in Flex 2, but when I look at my files in the design view no content shows up. anyone experience this?? Idea's on a fix? Thanks! - Ken Have you tried cleaning the project? I just copied my files from my flex 2 project into a new flex 3 project and had no problems, though I rarely use the design view. Paul
[flexcoders] numeric formatters - a small gripe
OK, I can always get around this stuff by writing my own formatter or extending an existing one, but I naively expect the number and currency formatters (say precision 2), to format 0.23 as 0.23 rather than .23. Similarly I expect -0.23 to be formatted as -0.23 and not return -.23. I know there's ways round this, but I find this formatting default odd. Even if it were popular in some quarters (is it?), I'd at least expect the classes supplied by Adobe to allow the choice of having the formatter generate that leading 0 or not. Is it just me that finds this odd? Am I right to expect that zero in front of the decimal point? Paul
Re: [flexcoders] numeric formatters - a small gripe
In case anyone wonders this is my quick and 'easy' workaround (here in
DataGridColumn labelFunction, using a currency formatter 'valueFormat')..
The currency formatter has the currency symbol deliberately suppressed.
// DataGrid Column labelFunction (using a currency formatter called
'valueFormat').
private function formatXXX(item:Object, XXX:DataGridColumn):String{
return (Math.abs(Number(item.XXX))=
1.0)?valueFormat.format(item.XXX):Number(item.XXX).toFixed(2);
}
mx:CurrencyFormatter
id=valueFormat
currencySymbol=
decimalSeparatorTo=.
precision=2
thousandsSeparatorTo=,/
Paul
- Original Message -
From: Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:56 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] numeric formatters - a small gripe
OK, I can always get around this stuff by writing my own formatter or
extending an existing one, but I naively expect the number and currency
formatters (say precision 2), to format 0.23 as 0.23 rather than
.23.
Similarly I expect -0.23 to be formatted as -0.23 and not return
-.23.
I know there's ways round this, but I find this formatting default odd.
Even
if it were popular in some quarters (is it?), I'd at least expect the
classes supplied by Adobe to allow the choice of having the formatter
generate that leading 0 or not.
Is it just me that finds this odd? Am I right to expect that zero in front
of the decimal point?
Paul
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Re: [flexcoders] How do I pause
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:22 AM Subject: [flexcoders] How do I pause My movie changes states when the user hits a button, but I want it to pause for 5 seconds. How do I do that ? I see something about pausing a sequence in the documentation. do I have to create a sequence first ? Can you explain why you need a five second pause after hitting the button? In normal circumstances this is a very bad idea because then the user might think that nothing is going to happen - is this the intended effect? You can get the intended effect by getting the button to set up a timed event in five seconds time - check out 'Controlling time intervals' in the Flex help. Paul
Re: [flexcoders] How do I pause
Thanks for the explantion - glad it worked out.
Paul
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] How do I pause
More accurately, I want to display some results when the button is hit
and then I want to pause, and then I want to change states. Like this
movie here:
http://food.aol.com/food-trivia-quizzes/hersheys-kiss
If you look at this movie, when you choose a question, the right answer
is highlighted in green and the wrong answers are hilighted in red.
this lasts for about 2 seconds, and then the wrong answers disappear.
I'm trying to create something like the 2 second pause.
This is what I ended up doing and it is simple and works fine for this
purpose. I'm so glad I didn't have to make a custom trigger for a pause
effect. .
Thanks, again for the help.
private function nextForm( ):void {
// check answers, show correct answers
getForm();
//pause
// creates a new five-second Timer
var minuteTimer:Timer = new Timer(1000, 5);
minuteTimer.addEventListener(TimerEvent.TIMER_COMPLETE,
onTimerComplete);
minuteTimer.start();
}
public function onTimerComplete(evt:TimerEvent):void
{
currentState = form + ++_stateIndex;
toplabel.text=Question +_stateIndex+ of +_stateCount;
}
Paul Andrews wrote:
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:info1%40reenie.org
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:22 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] How do I pause
My movie changes states when the user hits a button, but I want it to
pause for 5 seconds. How do I do that ? I see something about pausing a
sequence in the documentation. do I have to create a sequence first ?
Can you explain why you need a five second pause after hitting the
button?
In normal circumstances this is a very bad idea because then the user
might
think that nothing is going to happen - is this the intended effect?
You can get the intended effect by getting the button to set up a timed
event in five seconds time - check out 'Controlling time intervals' in
the
Flex help.
Paul
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline
Jack, I don't think you appreciate what a nightmare that would be for any development company. The sheer overhead of doing what you suggest would be immense. I don't know of a software company of any kind that operates like that. I think you've had the wrong position for 27 years.. Paul - Original Message - From: Jack Caldwell To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline Jeff: I fully understood what Matt was saying. That's just it . . . . it is not a top priority. The issue is that Adobe is fixing the bugs, but not releasing them. We as developers have to try to figure it out then call support, etc. That could take hours or days of my time. It's wasted time and money. I am like you, I don't have a large support staff either. My position, for over 27 years,has always been . . . . find a bug send ALL customers a fix ASAP. Not waiting for a customer to call me. Again, in the first 6-9 months after a major release, I think there should be a different release plan in place. Thanks, Jack From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff TapperSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:32 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline Jack-I think you misunderstand what Matt said. He didn't say they aren't working on fixes, he said it hasnt been their top priority. If you have an issue, he recommended you contact their support team. I have said this before, but I would not have a single customer if I told them I could not fix the software they purchased because I was working on another version.Again, its not an issue of not being able to fix bugs, many companies have a process in place to allow for handling their customers needs. In the adobe case, if something isnt working as you would expect, there is the support channel. drop them an email or give them a call, and they can help solve the issue you are having. They are the ones who are best able to determine if you are doing something wrong, or if its a bug in the code which needs to be fixed. I wouldnt be at all surprised if their were a number of minor patches available through the support channels. I dont know that there are, but if I were them, and I had a few fixes to specific bugs that havent been reported by the community at large, but instead by a few customers, I would probably give the fixes as needed, rather than make a whole new big push. Then again, thats just my thought process. Sadly, I dont have a whole support team working for me, so i need to deal with bugs in my code as they crop up.At 03:18 PM 8/30/2006, Jack Caldwell wrote: Matt or anyone else at Adobe.I agree that the quality of Flex Builder 2 is good . . . . very good . . . . however . . . .I know nothing will probably change since Adobe is the big software company, and I am only a single customer(Flex Builder 2 w/charting), but this position disturbs me.It reminds me of the construction industry when a contractor builds or remodels my house. I have paid for the work and I find problems but the contractor is off working on another house and doesn't have the time or resources to fix the problems in a timely manner.To be honest, I could care less about a Mac version . . . . AND I know those wanting a Mac version could care less about a Windows version. So please no bashing from the Mac side.It appears that Adobe has not allocated enough resources to the development team where they can have 2 groups. As I recall, it was said on this forum, soon after Flex 2 was released the development teamreceived new Macs to begin work on a Mac version.Why did Adobe not already have a plan and resources in place. This type of thing is done all the time.While I do not expect that every single bug be issued a "release patch", it would be very nice and customer friendly to have a bug fix release plan in place and implement that plan. Especially in the first 6-9 months ofa major release.I haven't encountered a bug that I know of. But when I do, I will probably have spent many hours or days thinking I did not write the code right only to find out later is was a bug. Wasted time . . . . money.I have said this before, but I would not have a single customer if I told them I could not fix the software they purchased because I was working on another version.I really do not understand why large software companies employ this type of bug fix and update plan.I only hope Adobe will rethink their strategy and implementation of releasing bug fixes.My .02 or actually $ 749 for Flex Builder 2 w/charting.Thanks,Jack
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline
Jack, I suspect that you don't run a company of quite the same size of Adobe. f you have one or two customers you can just issue a fix as soon as you've done QA. When you have thousands you have major distribution and support overheads that get more costly as you go on. It's not a question of knowing how to plan, it's big number logistics. Your not the only one whose been in software development for 27 yearseither.. Paul - Original Message - From: Jack Caldwell To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline Paul: Well . . . . . I must be doing something right . . . . for 27 years. If you read my post completely I said I did not expect Adobe to be as quick on fixes as I have been. It would only be a nightmare, if they did not plan properly. Maybe I just know how to plan and implement at a faster pace. But thanks just the same. Jack From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul AndrewsSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:55 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline Jack, I don't think you appreciate what a nightmare that would be for any development company. The sheer overhead of doing what you suggest would be immense. I don't know of a software company of any kind that operates like that. I think you've had the wrong position for 27 years.. Paul - Original Message - From: Jack Caldwell To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline Jeff: I fully understood what Matt was saying. That's just it . . . . it is not a top priority. The issue is that Adobe is fixing the bugs, but not releasing them. We as developers have to try to figure it out then call support, etc. That could take hours or days of my time. It's wasted time and money. I am like you, I don't have a large support staff either. My position, for over 27 years,has always been . . . . find a bug send ALL customers a fix ASAP. Not waiting for a customer to call me. Again, in the first 6-9 months after a major release, I think there should be a different release plan in place. Thanks, Jack From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff TapperSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:32 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline Jack-I think you misunderstand what Matt said. He didn't say they aren't working on fixes, he said it hasnt been their top priority. If you have an issue, he recommended you contact their support team. I have said this before, but I would not have a single customer if I told them I could not fix the software they purchased because I was working on another version.Again, its not an issue of not being able to fix bugs, many companies have a process in place to allow for handling their customers needs. In the adobe case, if something isnt working as you would expect, there is the support channel. drop them an email or give them a call, and they can help solve the issue you are having. They are the ones who are best able to determine if you are doing something wrong, or if its a bug in the code which needs to be fixed. I wouldnt be at all surprised if their were a number of minor patches available through the support channels. I dont know that there are, but if I were them, and I had a few fixes to specific bugs that havent been reported by the community at large, but instead by a few customers, I would probably give the fixes as needed, rather than make a whole new big push. Then again, thats just my thought process. Sadly, I dont have a whole support team working for me, so i need to deal with bugs in my code as they crop up.At 03:18 PM 8/30/2006, Jack Caldwell wrote: Matt or anyone else at Adobe.I agree that the quality of Flex Builder 2 is good . . . . very good . . . . however . . . .I know nothing will probably change since Adobe is the big software company, and I am only a single customer(Flex Builder 2 w/charting), but this position disturbs me.It reminds me of the construction industry when a contractor builds or remodels my house. I have paid for the work and I find problems but the contractor is off working on another house and doesn't have the time or resources to fix the problems in a timely manner.To be honest, I could care less about a Mac version . . . .
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline
Jack, You're welcome to express your opinions, even if they aren't the same as mine. Opinions are good. Paul - Original Message - From: Jack Caldwell To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:50 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline Paul: I have 200+ customers. But as I said before, this isn't going to change anything, so in the future I will just keep my opinions to myself. Thanks for your opinion. Jack From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul AndrewsSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 4:40 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline Jack, I suspect that you don't run a company of quite the same size of Adobe. f you have one or two customers you can just issue a fix as soon as you've done QA. When you have thousands you have major distribution and support overheads that get more costly as you go on. It's not a question of knowing how to plan, it's big number logistics. Your not the only one whose been in software development for 27 yearseither.. Paul - Original Message - From: Jack Caldwell To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline Paul: Well . . . . . I must be doing something right . . . . for 27 years. If you read my post completely I said I did not expect Adobe to be as quick on fixes as I have been. It would only be a nightmare, if they did not plan properly. Maybe I just know how to plan and implement at a faster pace. But thanks just the same. Jack From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul AndrewsSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:55 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline Jack, I don't think you appreciate what a nightmare that would be for any development company. The sheer overhead of doing what you suggest would be immense. I don't know of a software company of any kind that operates like that. I think you've had the wrong position for 27 years.. Paul - Original Message - From: Jack Caldwell To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline Jeff: I fully understood what Matt was saying. That's just it . . . . it is not a top priority. The issue is that Adobe is fixing the bugs, but not releasing them. We as developers have to try to figure it out then call support, etc. That could take hours or days of my time. It's wasted time and money. I am like you, I don't have a large support staff either. My position, for over 27 years,has always been . . . . find a bug send ALL customers a fix ASAP. Not waiting for a customer to call me. Again, in the first 6-9 months after a major release, I think there should be a different release plan in place. Thanks, Jack From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff TapperSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:32 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline Jack-I think you misunderstand what Matt said. He didn't say they aren't working on fixes, he said it hasnt been their top priority. If you have an issue, he recommended you contact their support team. I have said this before, but I would not have a single customer if I told them I could not fix the software they purchased because I was working on another version.Again, its not an issue of not being able to fix bugs, many companies have a process in place to allow for handling their customers needs. In the adobe case, if something isnt working as you would expect, there is the support channel. drop them an email or give them a call, and they can help solve the issue you are having. They are the ones who are best able to determine if you are doing something wrong, or if its a bug in the code which needs to be fixed. I wouldnt be at all surprised if their were a number of minor patches available through the support channels. I dont know that there are, but if I were them, and I had a few fixes to specific bugs that havent been reported by the community at large, but
Re: [flexcoders] Flex Builder 2, getting slower as code grows
Is that 1,700 lines of code in one file? - Original Message - From: Johannes Nel To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex Builder 2, getting slower as code grows switch off incremental compilation. build when you need it, or deploy to a seperate server and build there On 8/29/06, j_sevlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some kind of coding limitation on how much Flex Builder can handle before it gets completely unusable?I'm currently working on a rather complicated project that's sittingat about 1,700 lines of code, and the code editor in Flex Builder isgetting painfully slow to work with.If I just start typing anything I can watch my CPU spike to 100% and sit there until I'm done typing.I still need to use Design mode because it's *awesome* for liningeverything up.Is this a case where I'm just going to have to find away to break everything up into smaller components?About 70% of the1,700 lines is all Actionscript.I've got a P4 with 2 GB of RAM and Flex Builder will routinely consume400-600MB of memory while I'm working. Thanks, Jacob--Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- j:pn http://www.lennel.org __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Software development tool Software development Software development services Home design software Software development company YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2, is here the right place?
- Original Message - From: maka3d [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 1:07 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Flex 2, is here the right place? Hi flexers! Is here the right place to ask and discuss Flex 2 and AS 3, or you people suggest other place? You won't find much else here.. it is *the* place. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
