Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.12 is branched
Hi James,
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 16:08 +0100, James Turner wrote:
snip
I've put some cash down to buy a cheap PC box
for running Windows+Linux so I can debug these
issues (and a few other Windows ones which are
bugging me).
snip
This is really WONDERFUL news ;=))
MSVC has a very powerful source view level debugging,
but at present this fails in some auto-generated ctor/dtor
code before it reaches 'main()' so can not be used ;=((.
In the Debug build 'new' is replaced with a 'new_dbg'
which deliberately fills the allocation with 0xcc...
so if a person does NOT initialize ALL variables simple
dtor code like 'if (buf) delete buf;' crashes.
Further it allocate more than the memory request size
and sets up a filled-with-pattern header and tail, and
returns an off-set pointer, to completely check for
buffer under and over-run on delete.
Debug config adds a rather large prologue, and epilogue to
each function, that also fills the stack variables with
a pattern, so it can warn of things like -
void foo() {
int i;
if (i) do something
will warn 'i' has not been initialized... and does
a stack pointer check in the epilogue...
And LOTS more...
Of course all this add a heavy load, and the Debug
build only ever runs at about 1/10 speed, but is
excellent for debugging, provided you can get through
all the auto-c++ code and trap at main()...
And even if you get to main(), I have NEVER had a
clean Debug exit... there are many case of heap
corruption which it seems unix/linux/mac can
overlook, like they ARE also 'overlooked' in the
windows Release build!
But I am sure fgfs will run much better if we can get
rid of some of these 'hidden-from-unix' BUGS ;=))
Let me know if I can help in any way to get you
setup with a Windows box for testing, debugging ;=))
Regards,
Geoff.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.12 is branched
Hi Gijs, That can be fixed by adding Winmm.lib to the link... Like in the fgrun CMakeLists.txt file add - target_link_libraries( fgrun Winmm ) Regards, Geoff. On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 12:54 +0200, Gijs de Rooy wrote: It seems to fail on building FGRun.exe: SimGearCore.lib(timestamp.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol __imp__timeGetTime@0 referenced in function public: void __thiscall SGTimeStamp::stamp(void) (?stamp@SGTimeStamp@@QAEXXZ) FGRun-Win64-Cmake also fails (unrelated to this release issue I think), but that one has an issue with Boost. It fails to find a file that's there in Boost-Win64, so it's probably linking to some odd path? Don't have much time today for further troubleshooting unfortunately; should have some after my last exam tomorrow ;-) Cheers, Gijs -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production. Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with 2% overhead. Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=48897031iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.12 is branched
Hi Gijs,
Yes, it certainly 'looks' that way ;=()
I just did a git pull, and I can only produce that
SAME link error in my Windows 7 build if I comment
out the line -
list(APPEND PLATFORM_LIBS winmm.lib)
Then I get what you showed -
SimGearCored.lib(timestamp.obj) : error LNK2019: unresolved
external symbol __imp__timeGetTime@0 referenced in function
public: void __thiscall
SGTimeStamp::stamp(void) (?stamp@SGTimeStamp@@QAEXXZ)
C:\FG\18\build-fgrun\src\Debug\fgrund.exe : fatal error
LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals
Can only suggest in src\CMakeLists.txt you add a message like -
message(STATUS *** target_link_libraries(fgrun ui=${ui_libs_1_3} \
ws=${WINSOCK_LIBRARY} sg=${simgear_libs} \
osg=${OPENSCENEGRAPH_LIBRARIES} \
fltk=${FLTK_LIBRARIES} z=${ZLIB_LIBRARIES} intl=${INTL_LIBRARY} \
opty=${OPENPTY_LIBRARY} pf=${PLATFORM_LIBS}))
Just to make sure PLATFORM_LIBS is not getting clobbered somehow.
Of course this should show ... pf=winmm.lib)
I note PLATFORM_LIBS is only set in a cmake if (MSVC). It is
being compiled using the MSVC compiler/linker right?
Maybe that should be if (MSVC OR WIN32) or just if (WIN32) since
winmm.lib would ALWAYS be required in Windows for timeGetTime()...
HTH.
Regards,
Geoff.
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 15:32 +0200, Gijs de Rooy wrote:
Hi Geoff,
That can be fixed by adding Winmm.lib to the link...
Fred already did that some time ago, right?
https://www.gitorious.org/fg/fgrun/commit/d25fad49b73f51459ef2bdaa7e040da8259a02a0
Cheers,
Gijs
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] I need a tiny bit of help if possible.
Hi Alex, Sorry, we recently moved the 'sample' config file to the directory contrib/etc, and changed its name to fgms_production.ske.conf, and 'forgot' ;=(( to update the source docs, and the wiki... I, or someone, will get around to fixing this documentation soonest... Since fgms has a command line option where you can give the config file name - run $ ./fgms --help to see the options - then your config file can be anywhere, and called anything... But the 'usual' unix location is /usr/etc/fgms.conf Do servers have to be on a specific port? Public fgms usually use port 5000 to receive data packets from each instance of fgfs running in multiplay mode, and 5001 as the telnet port. Others could be used, but it could be confusing to users... If you want to run and join our 'public' list of fgms you need to apply here to Curt to get a mpserver number, and he will then add you to the flightgear.org dns records... See here - http://mpmap01.flightgear.org/mpstatus/ or here - http://mpserver15.flightgear.org/mpserverstatus/ or other status pages for the current list of 'public' fgms servers... But as a private, or test server you can use any ports you like. And we have a config sample for that - see contrib/etc/fgms_local.skel.conf Advise if you need more help... it sounds like you were able to get it compiled ok... Regards, Geoff. On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 07:02 +0100, Alex Turner wrote: Hello there, In the http://wiki.flightgear.org/Howto:Set_up_a_multiplayer_server article/page. I found on this line in the CompilingFGMS section: Once the program has been installed, you need to copy the fgms_example.conf file from the /fgms/fgms-0-x/src/server directory, into the build-fgms directory. To do this from inside the /fgms/fgms-0-x/src/server directory, you can use this command: cp ./fgms_example.conf ~/build-fgms/ I do exactly what the tutorial says, but I get stuck when it gets to fgms_example.conf, which I can’t find in the directory that it says its in. Could you please help me? Also, Do servers have to be on a specific port? -- Introducing AppDynamics Lite, a free troubleshooting tool for Java/.NET Get 100% visibility into your production application - at no cost. Code-level diagnostics for performance bottlenecks with 2% overhead Download for free and get started troubleshooting in minutes. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_ap1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] multiplay refuel test
Hi, NOTAM: Refueling CLOSED, temporarily at least... Ok, have finished for now my refueling sorties. As I put in the chat after one pilot reported holding a position for refueling can be quite tiring - Yes, so can even watching it ;=)) It all certainly confirmed that some FG code changes are needed to make this experience viable... like removing, or reducing the rubber-band effect, and compensating for lag which makes the view from the tanker different to the view from the aircraft. Additionally, there is NO collision detection code between the aircraft and the mp derived models, so this means even when you get the probe into the basket, if you push forward a few more feet, and the basket/drogue will enter your cockpit ;=)) But I had lots of fun, and I hope the others that joined me did also ;=)) As to the virtual bottle of red wine, I think that must go to callsign jano, who held steady very close, or touching! proximity for the longest period of time in the lightning (jsb). http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19t=19756#p181737 I chose a Chateau Petrus 1982, and the 'virtual' bottle is here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Petrus1982.jpg It is under a GFLD licence, which I understand is GPL compatible ;=)) jano later tried to repeat the feat in an f-14b (yasim), but while holding a similar relatively close position, the aircraft always looked quite 'jumpy'... maybe something to do with the different FDM? An honorable mention must go to F-JJTH who posted an image with the probe in the basket, followed by one with the basket in the cockpit ;=)) http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19t=19756#p181749 As per some others if you scroll down... I have now put up a page on my site with the images I took - http://geoffair.org/fg/mp I left all the images at full screen shot size, so they can take a little time to download... But a BIG thank you to ALL who came along for the ride... As stated, it was great, if not exhausting!, FUN! Regards, Geoff. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] multiplay refuel test
Hi Jano, Thanks for the video links... these were great... So far I have had 5 others, aside from myself, trying to get to touch the R or L drogue, and while some got quite close and were able to maintain a close position, several factors came into play which made it difficult, if not impossible... The tanker used is the 'victor', probe-drogue type, flown on autopilot at 12000 feet (STD 29.92), 220 knots on either 180 from Paris LFPY, or 360 on the return. I usually turn N shortly after Toulouse in the south... So far, as the other aircraft, have had Citation-II, Mirage_F1, m2000, f16, and ???... A big thank you to them for joining in and trying... And I understand some screen shots were posted on the PAF forum, but still to find these... a link would help... I also tried with a 2nd victor, running in a 2nd machine... Oh, and I always use mpserver14.flightgear.org, Switzerland, and perhaps attempts while using the SAME fgms server may be better... but still saw the following assumed due to 'lag' problem when flying victor to victor where this is the closest you can see the following plane, but in fact he see itself very close to the drogue This difference between whether you are looking from the aircraft to the tanker, or from the tanker to the aircraft is certainly ONE of the problems. Usually the tanker will see the aircraft still back some 10s of meters behind the drogue, while the pilots sees the drogue up very close, perhaps even touching... And assume it can be the reverse of this... http://wiki.flightgear.org/Mp-patch Have downloaded and am looking at your wiki lag patches with an aim to patch my 2.11... in Windows 7 and Ubuntu... but not sure how far I will get... It would certainly be nice if both pilots saw the same scene ;=)) But this is not the ONLY problem... basically the mp sending rate is fine with 10 pps Well yes if the packets flow, but many things do seem to interrupt that flow... One of the biggest is F3 - take a screen shot - This seems to stop packets for a seconds or more... Loading a new scenery tile can be another... new weather metar, although in the victor I usually select simple Fair weather... but there seems to be a number of things that 'change' the packet flow... I even suspect mp chat causes small blips... There is already some form of predictive code in 2.11, but this to not yet very accurate or successful, but seems a very good start... If the aircraft IS maintaining close proximity to the drogue, and I press F3 in the tanker, the tanker seems to slide forward faster and further than it should! So the aircraft pilot sees the tanker quickly move away... accelerate and moves forward... quite un-nerving... And this can happen even without a heavy F3 event... perhaps even due to system thread changes, ie nothing to do with the running fgfs... Now if [s]he does nothing but hold, usually things will settle back into close proximity, but the pilot has LOST some visual clues aiding to maintain position so by the time things resettle [s]he is no longer so near the drogue ;=(( So I must take another look at this fill-in code, and would like to hear from the person or persons who implemented it... and understand why the very apparent slide fast forward, and what controls how quickly the position returns to that of the current packets after such an artificial change... any README, links, etc... And then there is how will your 'lag' correction effect this current extrapolation code? If at all... So lots of things to explore here ;=() Over the coming days I will try to maintain my victor tanker runs... but it too can be quite stressful even just watching and chatting... Maybe later try an E-W run, since you do mention some differences depending on direction... So still invite others to try, but they should read and understand the above - it is difficult if not impossible - so expect more of the same frustrating efforts until some more CODE changes can be put in place... As one trier sort of put it - it is like the tanker has some 'shield' around it... things are good while you close in, but at very close proximity all HELL breaks loose ;=)) Have FUN! Regards, Geoff. On Thu, 2013-04-18 at 08:18 +0200, jean wrote: Hi Geoff i guess you are seing something like that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWn6_RFp97Y where this is the closest you can see the following plane, but in fact he see itself very close to the drogue and what you want is like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGHRDrc_n98 you should have a look at this page, wip but working fine for the few pilots testing it : http://wiki.flightgear.org/Mp-patch basically the mp sending rate is fine with 10 pps, but you need a way to compensate for the lag. I can't try a refuel with you before this WE, but i will if you are still flying the victor somewhere. jano NOTAM: To flyers who fly 'probe'
[Flightgear-devel] map and flight projection...
Hi, Seems in the latest 2.11 git, the 'map' has lost the forward projected yellow dotted line from the aircraft... Was this intentional? I thought the projection was a very good way to line up on an ILS, head to a VOR, etc, etc... Or is it a 'bug'? Or can I re-enable it somehow? Regards, Geoff. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] multiplay refuel test
NOTAM: To flyers who fly 'probe' enabled aircraft in Europe... or even if NOT... I will be flying the 'victor' refueling tanker for the next few days from KFPY, south 180 track, then turn around at the southern mountains, north on 360, at 12,000 feet – FL120 STD QNA – and am interested in 'hot' flyers who want to try air-to-air REFUELING (AAR) in suitably equiped aircraft, well ANY aircraft... The tanker will maintain, under autopilot, 220 knots (KTAS), at the said 12,000 feet, either 180 or 360, under the callsign GA006. The flights will commence about noon, or before, UTC, and close about 20:00 UTC. The track can be followed using http://test.fgx.ch, or other mp map URLS. Click on 'GA006' to localize... Reason: (a) I have tried with several aircraft over the last few days, and learned that this is QUITE difficult, but I hope NOT impossible! (b) The present suggested pps (Hz) is 10 when you set up –multiplay=, but FG 2.11 has fill-in extrapolation code when fgfs packets do not arrive in time, so maybe this is too high. This is the basic question... So the idea is to reduce this IFF this fill-in code helps, ie does its job... The theoretic idea is that with this code we can reduce the bandwidth used by 10 Hz to perhaps 2-4 Hz, but this needs to be FULLY tested, and confirmed... Now I have tried this over several day, in several aircraft – A-10, f-14b, a4 and failed, FAILED to touch the trailing drogues... it is TOUGH... autopilots help you get to the 'zone' but it needs manual flying to get to the RIGHT PLACE... If you are using a joystick maybe you need to even adjust the dead spot and the 'sensitivity' of the inputs... lots of learning, understanding and doing fgdata xml changes... And I have had a few pilots joining in ad hoc, but so far no one has actually contacted with the trailing outer wing drogues... The 'victor' can refuel 2 aircraft at a time... and I would LOVE to see/capture that... One, french I think, got so frustrated at his attempts, began firing missiles at the tanker. Thankfully, he MISSED, but was CLOSE ;=)) Also if you alert me to your attempt to refuel from my tanker, via mp chat, email, fgcom, … AND I am on board at the time -: (a) I will offer a VIRTUAL bottle of good Bordeau rouge to the first pilot who maintains drogue contact for say a minute, or more ;=)) (b) I will take some screen shots and post them. Be warned, during a screen shots (F3), fgfs stops sending mp packets for up to a second or so, and in the close fgfs the fill-in (extrapolation) code is activated, with some interesting, and sometimes quite alarming effects... Also I have heard others mention that the live metar update can also cause mp packet delays. The tanker will be flying under the 'Fair weather' scenario to avoid this. Maybe you should choose this as well... I really seek help from other pilots to analyse this multiplayer bandwidth situation. We have chosen 10 Hz, but WHY? Can less than 10 Hz be used with no adverse effect? That is the BIG question... Simply, what really is the optimum packets-per-second (pps) rate? Maybe it changes depending on circumstances... We know the lower the Hz the lower the bandwidth used by FGMS servers... but can the extrapolation code fill-in for the missing packets? Is 10 Hz good? Should it be higher, or lower depending on circumstance.. Lots to learn... Of course I am sure there are OTHER ideas... Hope you can help, and have some FUN at the same time;=)). Look forward to seeing you on my rear view... and I will take some pics... Regards, Geoff. CC: to users list... BCC: to others... -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] c172p UI Changes
Hi James, Did a git pull SG/FG/fgdata a few hours ago, and a Release re-build in Windows 7... and took the default c172p for spin... I had been reading about your changes, but I was in for some surprises ;=)) And I understand it is a WIP... While I like the cursor changes to -- when you hover over a knob, it seem now the knob only turns one way, unless you hold the Alt key down... Previously you just shifted to the left or right of the knob for this direction change... Is that the expected UI change? Or am I missing something... Then the compass bug starts clockwise - faster if you hold shift... unless with the Alt key... like the altimeter... And the magnetos clockwise, but could not engage starter with mouse... But the compass knob goes anticlockwise, like the 2 ADF... each reversed on Alt key... and each faster with Shift... So I can understand they turn one way unless the Alt key is held, then the other way... but could they not all default to the SAME direction, say clockwise, and the Alt key reverse that? Or I suppose you could commit the default direction to memory ;=)) like background compass plates default anti, while foreground needles and bugs clockwise... Panel lights seemed to be move right to brighten, move left to dim, rather than clicks... Could not operate the flaps level with the mouse, but had never tried with the mouse before, so maybe that stayed the same? Also like the 'hand' for buttons, and vertical up-down arrow over switches... Did not have time to explore more tonight... but in general it 'felt' good. Thanks... Did get some nasal errors to the console - Nasal runtime error: nil used in numeric context at C:/FG/fgdata/Nasal/geo.nas, line 241 called from: C:/FG/fgdata/Nasal/canvas/tooltip.nas, line 167 called from: C:/FG/fgdata/Nasal/canvas/tooltip.nas, line 119 called from: C:/FG/fgdata/Nasal/canvas/tooltip.nas, line 91 called from: C:/FG/fgdata/Nasal/canvas/tooltip.nas, line 270 called from: C:/FG/fgdata/Nasal/canvas/tooltip.nas, line 313 Just some user feedback. HTH. Regards, Geoff. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Fwd: svn LSTZ.threshold.xml seems wrong!
Hi all, Errata: It was an error in my script that showed bad values from 2.10 apt.dat.gz... Sorry! Using the computed center of the single runway it now shows 46.55,7.38, which agrees with the site AND with x-plane 10.00 ;=)) as it should... But it does show zero displacements and stopways, which I think is an error! To help fix LSTZ.threshold.xml I got my script to calculate and generate the xml from x-plane 10.00 apt.dat, which does have displacements... ?xml version=1.0? PropertyList runway threshold rwy17/rwy lat46.5557604156107/lat lon7.3803149373204/lon hdg-deg172.632939426832/hdg-deg displ-m30.193488/displ-m stopw-m0/stopw-m /threshold threshold rwy35/rwy lat46.5489074392642/lat lon7.38159918524379/lon hdg-deg352.633943174119/hdg-deg displ-m28.614624/displ-m stopw-m0/stopw-m /threshold /runway /PropertyList And a view of the runway in Google Maps shows there are displacements on that runway... http://maps.google.com/?ll=46.551881,7.383134spn=0.012528,0.025513t=hz=16 Hope this helps to 'fix' the svn scenery data soonest... Regards, Geoff. Forwarded Message From: Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info To: flightgear-devel flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: svn LSTZ.threshold.xml seems wrong! Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 20:20:10 +0200 Hi all, A little bit of amusement... ;=)) I just happened to be looking at the mapserver svn ICAO.threshold.xml files with a perl script, and found a very, VERY interesting case ;=)) Most files range in size from 468 bytes EG42, to 6,201 bytes KEDW.threshold.xml... that may be all ok... BUT then you have the massive 18 MB LSTZ ;=() That is 18,367,661 bytes to be exact! Researching a little, LSTZ (Zweisimmen) airport is a local airport (light traffic) with 1 runway, '35' and '17'... at lat,lon 46.5525022,7.380560. from one site... Then LSTZ in our 2.10 release apt.dat.gz shows a crazy 32.68,-114.63!!! While x-plane 10.00 shows 46.55,7.38, which agrees with the site... data/Scenery/Airports/L/S/T/LSTZ.threshold.xml contains about 88,760 runways ;=) But to be fair only 56 different runways markings... But ryw '17' and '35' are listed 225 times each... Rwy '18' and '36' are listed 25,921 times each! The bounding box covering ALL runway coordinates given in the file is approximately lat,lon min 1.99,-178.31 to max 65.81,145.88 which is MOST of the world... well at least the Northern half... Something is really screwy with this file ;=)) Hope someone can find the time to 'fix' it a little... I really wonder what fgfs does with this file when it reads it... HTH. Regards, Geoff. -- Precog is a next-generation analytics platform capable of advanced analytics on semi-structured data. The platform includes APIs for building apps and a phenomenal toolset for data science. Developers can use our toolset for easy data analysis visualization. Get a free account! http://www2.precog.com/precogplatform/slashdotnewsletter ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] svn LSTZ.threshold.xml seems wrong!
Hi all, A little bit of amusement... ;=)) I just happened to be looking at the mapserver svn ICAO.threshold.xml files with a perl script, and found a very, VERY interesting case ;=)) Most files range in size from 468 bytes EG42, to 6,201 bytes KEDW.threshold.xml... that may be all ok... BUT then you have the massive 18 MB LSTZ ;=() That is 18,367,661 bytes to be exact! Researching a little, LSTZ (Zweisimmen) airport is a local airport (light traffic) with 1 runway, '35' and '17'... at lat,lon 46.5525022,7.380560. from one site... Then LSTZ in our 2.10 release apt.dat.gz shows a crazy 32.68,-114.63!!! While x-plane 10.00 shows 46.55,7.38, which agrees with the site... data/Scenery/Airports/L/S/T/LSTZ.threshold.xml contains about 88,760 runways ;=) But to be fair only 56 different runways markings... But ryw '17' and '35' are listed 225 times each... Rwy '18' and '36' are listed 25,921 times each! The bounding box covering ALL runway coordinates given in the file is approximately lat,lon min 1.99,-178.31 to max 65.81,145.88 which is MOST of the world... well at least the Northern half... Something is really screwy with this file ;=)) Hope someone can find the time to 'fix' it a little... I really wonder what fgfs does with this file when it reads it... HTH. Regards, Geoff. -- Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. Visit the Employer Resources Portal http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/employer_resources/index.html ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] fgcom UK problem
Hi all, It seems in some recent rather extensive testing of fgcom, in windows, linux and OSX, fgcom.flightgear.org.uk is NOT working properly =((. And I have heard about problem reports in the fg forum. UK works fine for the -f910 echo test, but for every other frequency fed to it from a running fgfs always get an error - Call disconnected by remote That test list included the 'universal' AirtoAir 122.75 and 123.45 frequencies. Who is the maintainer of fgcom UK server? Maybe he could check his asterisk server... restart it or something... Through MP chat learned about another :- delta384.server4you.de which worked well... Thank you to who ever maintains this server... Does anyone else run a public asterisk server that accepts guest:guest? In other words, what is the list of all possible voip servers that can be used with fgcom? Could these be added to the - http://wiki.flightgear.org/FGCom And a related question. To be able to talk pilot to pilot do we both have to be connected to the same voip server? I guess yes. I think a mix would only work if the public voip server list somehow cross communicated, but not sure that is possible. Any information welcome... Regards, Geoff. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Jenkins Build win32 #926 and older quits
Hi James, Ok, found the abort almost immediately ;=)) in options.cxx, void Options::init(...) Simple - std::string homedir(getenv(HOME)); is a NO NO... In windows getenv(HOME) will yield a null = (0), and it is a logic error to do - std::string homedir(0); Changed that to - std::string homedir; char *hd = getenv(HOME); if (hd) homedir = hd; And I am up and flying... This does mean no homedir.fgfsrc is ever processed in windows, but will take longer to sort that out... Now get console output - Enabling ATI viewport hack KMA20 audio panel initialized KI266 dme indicator #0 initialized loading scenario 'nimitz_demo' Could not find at least one of the following objects for animation: 'terminal_2' Could not find at least one of the following objects for animation: 'terminal_2' Electrical system initialized KAP140 power up Error in ground network. Failed to find first waypoint: 0 at KSMF And the c172p starts and FLIES ;= Regards, Geoff. -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Jenkins Build win32 #926 and older quits
On Sun, 2013-02-10 at 12:54 +, James Turner wrote: ... Excellent. But my intention was to use %APPDATA% for this on Windows i think? Hi James, And to follow on debugging a bit I do see that it does check for a file - c:/Users/name/AppData/Roaming/flightgear.org/fgfsrc which is using %APPDATA%, so that seems ok... And also checks for a file - --fg-root|FG_ROOT/system.fgfs.COMPUTERNAME AND --fg-root|FG_ROOT/system.fgfs if they exist... AND also loads the file :- c:/Users/name/AppData/Roaming/flightgear.org/\ autosave_2_11.xml So maybe all bases are already covered ;=)) Regards, Geoff. -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Obsolete weather models and textures
Hi Renk, Thank you for the time and effort to produce this list. Over the coming days I will remove them from my current installed Windows 2.10 RC1, and my own Windows 2.10 release build, as a further check... I hope this encourages others to think about and fess up to 'unused' things they know about in the base release fg data ;=)) To me, every little bit helps, and goes towards making 2.10 lighter, and thus a better first time experience! Regards, Geoff. On Sun, 2013-02-03 at 18:26 +, Renk Thorsten wrote: Here's a list of objects which I have tested to be safe to remove from /Models/Weather/ - all in all ~19MB. If no one else has objections, as far as I'm concerned they can go. * Thorsten altocumulus_textures.dds altocumulus_textures.rgb cumulonimbus1.ac cumulonimbus1.xml cumulonimbus2.ac cumulonimbus2.xml cumulonimbus_sl1.ac cumulonimbus_sl1.xml cumulonimbus_sl2.ac cumulonimbus_sl2.xml cumulonimbus_sl3.ac cumulonimbus_sl3.xml cumulonimbus_sl4.ac cumulonimbus_sl4.xml cumulonimbus_sl5.ac cumulonimbus_sl5.xml cumulonimbus_sl6.ac cumulonimbus_sl6.xml cumulonimbus_sl7.ac cumulonimbus_sl7.xml cumulonimbus_sl8.ac cumulonimbus_sl8.xml cumulonimbus_small1.ac cumulonimbus_small1.xml cumulonimbus_small2.ac cumulonimbus_small2.xml cumulonimbus_textures1.dds cumulonimbus_textures1.rgb cumulonimbus_textures2.rgb cumulonimbus_textures3.rgb cumulonimbus_textures.dds cumulonimbus_textures.rgb nimbus1.ac nimbus1.xml nimbus_sl1.ac nimbus_sl1.xml nimbus_sl2.ac nimbus_sl2.xml nimbus_sl3.ac nimbus_sl3.xml nimbus_sl4.ac nimbus_sl4.xml nimbus_sl5.ac nimbus_sl5.xml nimbus_sl6.ac nimbus_sl6.xml nimbus_sls1.ac nimbus_sls1.xml nimbus_sls2.ac nimbus_sls2.xml nimbus_sls3.ac nimbus_sls3.xml nimbus_sls4.ac nimbus_sls4.xml nimbus_sls5.ac nimbus_sls5.xml nimbus_sls6.ac nimbus_sls6.xml nimbus_textures.dds nimbus_textures.rgb stratus_small_layer1.ac stratus_small_layer1.xml stratus_small_layer2.ac stratus_small_layer2.xml stratus_small_layer3.ac stratus_small_layer3.xml stratus_small_layer4.ac stratus_small_layer4.xml stratus_small_layer5.ac stratus_small_layer5.xml stratus_textures.dds stratus_textures.rgb -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates
Hi Curt, $(FGSRC)/package/make-base-package.no-arch.sh Thanks for this, and it worked fine ;=)) But it produces a 755,302,671 byte tar.bz2 file for 2.10 release fg data! So again, is there any way this can be reduced? 1. As already suggested here maybe the ATC/Chatter 61 MB could be removed? Is this agreed by all? Can this be removed from a Release without problems? 2. What about the Docs - 17 MB - For a release could we rely ONLY on online docs? 3. AI - 375 MB Aircraft - 235 MB Traffic - 136 MB Airports - 3 MB Could some or all this be left out of a release. Will fgfs still run without a segfault, or anything other than no AI traffic, or is it used for other things? I just tried renaming AI but fgfs bombed - unable to read performancedb.xml - so obviously some things are absolutely needed. 4. Models/Weather - 76 MB - As asked are BOTH duplicate dds and rgb files needed, or could a release work with only one or the other? 5. And now I find in both Textures and Textures.high the same duplication of dds and png files. Again are BOTH really required for a release? 6. Are there other cherry picking items that could be removed. What about the bunch of obsolete cloud models and textures Renk mentioned? Others? I am not specifically suggesting we aim to get below a CD size, but am very interested in being able to offer a quicker download for the first time user, even if minimally... I will modify the script if I can be given some CLEAR ideas on what 'can' be left out, and what _MUST_ stay. Regards, Geoff. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates
Hi Curt, Downloaded 2.10 RC1 - Wow over a 20 minutes even at about 550 MB/s, but I guess all good things come with a little pain ;=)) But noted you 'forgot' to adjust the default install folder - it still reads C:\PF\FlightGear-2.8.0.4 as the default install folder. And likewise the name for the default desktop icon. After manually changing those to 2.10.0.1, fgrun loaded fine with the correct paths, and fgfs ran fine in the first quick test using the 777-200... Will naturally report any bugs found... The 740 MB setup exe expands to 1.4 GB on disk... Since I am also interested in producing a RC from my own build curious how you 'separate' the RC data from the git master fgdata. Checked fg/fgmeta but could not find any 'script' to do this... Can you add your 'scripts' to there? Or did I miss something? And in checking your installed data, note the biggest dozen or so folders that are over a MB are - AI- 375 MB Aircraft - 275 MB Textures.high - 230 MB Models- 229 MB Textures - 82 MB ATC - 73 MB Scenery - 21 MB Docs - 17 MB Sounds- 6 MB Timezone - 6 MB Airports - 5 MB Navaids - 4 MB Fonts - 2 MB Nasal - 1 MB Note, these are size estimates based on a disk sector size of 4096 bytes, thus things like Timezone is only a total of 815 KB in file size, but is 1,542 small files so climbs to 6 MB of disk space. From what I have read, it seems we have reduced Aircraft to the bare minimum of about 15 so seems little can be done there... But why does AI top the size list for a bare-bones release? In there the top is - Aircraft - 235 MB Traffic - 136 MB Airports - 3 MB Could we not reduce the AI Aircraft and/or Traffic? At least for an initial BASE release... From feedback here it seems removing Textures.high maybe out of the question? But maybe not... In Models, the majority is in Weather - 76 MB, and do note that most of the 'big' files are duplicated as dds and rgb. I tried to follow some of the discussion here on this, but is it necessary to have both? In ATC I see Chatter 61 MB - Again is this required, desired for a bare-bones release? Scenery is already at a minimum, so do not see any reduction there... Docs is only 17 MB, but given that most, all of this would also be online, should this be included in a base download package? The top sizes in Docs are - getstart-fr.pdf- 5.4 MB getstart.pdf - 5.4 MB fschool_0.0.3.pdf - 2.9 MB README.YASim.rotor.xls - 337 KB README.YASim.rotor.ods - 236 KB And I guess Sounds, Timezone, Airports, Navaids, Fonts and Nasal are all essential. Anyway, just some thoughts on trying to reduce the initial 'pain' of a new user to be able to quickly get and try FG! And Curt, I hope you can 'publish' your 'scripts' somewhere, to help others like me generate a Windows setup install exe... Regards, Geoff. On Wed, 2013-01-30 at 07:20 -0600, Curtis Olson wrote: FYI, the first windows 2.10 release candidate has been posted. It hits the ibiblio.org and kingmont.com mirrors first and then propagates as the other mirrors run their scheduled syncs. http://www.flightgear.org/news/flightgear-v2-10-release-candidates/ James, let me know when there's something ready to go on the MacOS side and I'll update the 2.10 RC info page. Thanks! Curt. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Erik Hofman e...@ehofman.com wrote: On 01/30/2013 08:10 AM, Renk Thorsten wrote: It does run on my Win 7 laptop with nvidia graphics hardware (and nvidia graphics drivers installed.) I will get it uploading ... 740Mb! So much for the CD distribution. :-) Didn't Bill Gates famously say 640Mb should be enough for anyone? Um... which reminds me - I had on my old computer a bunch of obsolete cloud models and textures flagged and done long-term testing that they really aren't used - that's probably 20-30 MB worth of files that can go. In all the confusion migrating to a new machine I forgot about that - do you want me to look for that list? Doesn't really get us to CD size, but still... Are the Winter textures still needed? Erik -- http://www.adalin.com - Hardware accelerated AeonWave and OpenAL for Windows and Linux -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates
Hi Curt, Thanks for the reply. I believe Fred intentionally chose to use the same registry key from one version to the next. Ok, that's understandable... my last install was 2.8.0.4, but I wanted them separated... not over-written... But then not sure why not choose just C:\PF\FlightGear which is where an earlier version was put... But maybe you are right, if I uninstall the current FOUR(4) versions I have installed, it may choose just '/FlightGear/'... So please forget that I used the word 'forgot' ;=)) There is a make target in the flightgear top level ... And assume the 'make' target is $ make package, or $ make package_source which seem to be the only possible targets shown for $ make help But running the first with -n seemed only to do the binaries, no data, and the second seemed to only be regarding fg source, again not fgdata... So maybe I do not quite understand ;=(( Regards, Geoff. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] bug report
On Tue, 2013-01-08 at 22:02 +0800, bhfx2...@sina.com wrote: Version 2.10.0 Simgear window xp sp2 visual studio 2008+sp1 BVHPageNodeOSG(78): errorC2440:function-style-cast cannot convert const osg::Matrixf::value_type * to SGMatrixd Hi bhfx2012, Well I had no trouble with BVHPageNodeOSG.cxx(line 78) when I last compiled SG in Windows 7, using MSVC100 (2010), and OSGtrunk (2012/10/26) a few days ago (2013/01/02)... For fun, I just updated Simgear to 2.10 in my XP SP2 machine, and again had no problem with this file, or any file for that matter, using OSG 3.1.3 (circa 2012.05.15) using MSVC8 (2005). So, as asked before, directly - What OSG are you using? Obtained from where? Did you compile it, or are you using binaries from somewhere? What Boost version are you using? Obtained from where? Maybe it is something to do with the particular version combination. The compiler error seems strange, but maybe someone else has seen it before... Sorry can not be more help at this time... Regards, Geoff. -- Master SQL Server Development, Administration, T-SQL, SSAS, SSIS, SSRS and more. Get SQL Server skills now (including 2012) with LearnDevNow - 200+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only - learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122512 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] fgdata git problem with Socata-ST10 Switch.ac
Hi Emmanuel, For the past few weeks (since about mid Dec I think!) I, and some others, have a problem with the following files in windows - Aircraft/Socata-ST10/Models/Interior/Panel/Instruments/Switch/Switch.ac Aircraft/Socata-ST10/Models/Interior/Panel/Instruments/Switch/switch.ac There are TWO such files 'Switch.ac' and 'switch.ac', which of course are the SAME file in Windows, and causes a git status problem... If BOTH files are needed, could one be re-named to some non- conflicting name... Or, if only one is required, could the other be deleted. For windows compatibility it is NOT possible to have two files of the same name, only changing case... and stated, please rename, or delete one Thanks... Regards, Geoff. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata git problem with Socata-ST10 Switch.ac
On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 16:49 +, James Turner wrote: On 7 Jan 2013, at 16:06, Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info wrote: There are TWO such files 'Switch.ac' and 'switch.ac', which of course are the SAME file in Windows, and causes a git status problem... Mac isn't very happy about this either. (for me, with my case-preserving-but-insensitive-FS) James Hi Emmanuel, Just to try to help a little more, a quick grep in linux shows me only Switch.ac is referenced in the xml... Maybe switch.ac should/could be removed/deleted? Regards, Geoff. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata git problem with Socata-ST10 Switch.ac
On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 19:01 +0100, BARANGER Emmanuel wrote: Le 07/01/2013 18:07, flightgear-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net a There are TWO such files 'Switch.ac' and 'switch.ac', which of course are the SAME file in Windows, and causes a git status problem... Argh ! Damned ! Shame on me :( Hi Emmanuel, Thanks for the QUICK fix ;=)) You correctly deleted switch.ac, but the commit comment says the opposite, but no problem! And for those windows fans, after the git pull to get this fix, you may still have to do - git checkout -- Aircraft\...\Switch.ac using the full path of course... to get back a clean working directory... And Emmanuel, I will try to ignore your provocative statements about windows... I guess every OS has it lovers and haters, and certainly each OS has its particular foible ;=)) Perhaps to some diversity is what makes the world more enjoyable LOL. And yes, I thought about a direct email blip, but it is good to remind ALL developers now and then there are still many among us using windows, with PLEASURE and much happiness ;=)) Again, thanks for the 'fix'. I do understand it was just a tiny error in amongst the MANY aircraft you have a hand in... Regards, Geoff. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight gear 2.8.0 start error for help!
On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 12:07 +0100, Geoff McLane wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-02 at 17:52 +0800, bhfx2...@sina.com wrote: I compile flightgear 2.8 in visual studio 2005 ok ,in debug mode. when start , it report Runtime check failure : The value of ESP was virtual double GetPressureSL(void) is NOT... it does a simple return... Hi all, As sometimes happens, seems I spoke before looking ;=(( The ::bind() Tie to Get/SetPressureSl has been commented out in 2.10, 2.9 and seems even 2.8.1, so either bhfx2012 has an 'older' 2.8 source or this is not the problem. Sorry for the noise. Regards, Geoff. -- Master Java SE, Java EE, Eclipse, Spring, Hibernate, JavaScript, jQuery and much more. Keep your Java skills current with LearnJavaNow - 200+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Java experts. SALE $49.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122612 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] CMake problem
On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 12:33 +, Renk Thorsten wrote:
cmake ../../flightgear -DSIMGEAR_DIR:PATH=/home/fgfs/FGLib
Hi,
Try -
$ export SIMGEAR_DIR=/home/fgfs/FGLib \
cmake ../../flightgear
In FG/CMakeModules/FindSimGear.cmake you will find
HINTS $ENV{SIMGEAR_DIR}
Note the 'ENV', so it expects it to be in
the environment...
What you did WOULD work if you added -
HINTS $ENV{SIMGEAR_DIR} ${SIMGEAR_DIR}
But this may still fail, since you say it is
installed in -
/home/fgfs/FGLib/lib64
And the 'find' module has -
PATH_SUFFIXES ${CMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR} libs64 \
libs libs/Win32 libs/Win64
But 'perhaps' CMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR will include
a suffix of 'lib64'... not sure...
Another 'trick' to try is adding
-DCMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/home/fgfs/FGLib
but this is not always certain...
HTH,
Regards,
Geoff.
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[Flightgear-devel] Windows Debug build
Hi WIN32 builders,
For those who want to build and INSTALL the
FG exes, fgfs, fgjs, metar, etc... the attached patch
is very necessary to separate the Debug and Release
builds...
If you are NOT using the 'INSTALL' then these
are already separated by MSVC into the INTDIRS,
Release and Debug... so no problem there...
But at present, the last 'install' will overwrite
the previous EXES... leaving you wondering which
configuration you are running ;=((
The CMakeLists.txt already does -
set(CMAKE_DEBUG_POSTFIX d ...)
and this works fine for library builds.
But for each EXE it is necessary to specifically
do a set properties to add 'd' to the Debug build,
like -
set_target_properties(targ PROPERTIES DEBUG_POSTFIX d)
And that is what the attached patch does ;=)).
I personally would like to see this patched added
to the git source, but it is ONLY for WIN32
building, so maybe each needs to also be put in
if (WIN32)
set_target_properties(...
endif (WIN32)
Unix deal with debug slightly differently - just
whether the binary contains symbols or not, the -g
compile option - and does not seem disturbed by
this particular 'set_target_properties(...)'...
But in windows different system runtime libraries
are used and you can get warnings, even link errors
in mixing these two...
Regards,
Geoff.
attached: cmake-WIN32.patch - this was against
git next of just a few days ago...
diff --git a/src/FDM/YASim/CMakeLists.txt b/src/FDM/YASim/CMakeLists.txt
index 352a78b..ba7152e 100644
--- a/src/FDM/YASim/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/src/FDM/YASim/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -47,7 +47,10 @@ target_link_libraries(yasim
target_link_libraries(yasim-proptest
${SIMGEAR_CORE_LIBRARIES}
${SIMGEAR_CORE_LIBRARY_DEPENDENCIES})
-
+
+set_target_properties ( yasim PROPERTIES DEBUG_POSTFIX d )
+set_target_properties ( yasim-proptest PROPERTIES DEBUG_POSTFIX d )
+
install(TARGETS yasim yasim-proptest RUNTIME DESTINATION bin)
endif(ENABLE_TESTS)
diff --git a/src/Input/CMakeLists.txt b/src/Input/CMakeLists.txt
index 009929d..5497a78 100644
--- a/src/Input/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/src/Input/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -52,6 +52,8 @@ target_link_libraries(fgjs
${PLIB_LIBRARIES}
${SIMGEAR_CORE_LIBRARY_DEPENDENCIES})
+set_target_properties ( fgjs PROPERTIES DEBUG_POSTFIX d )
+
add_executable(js_demo js_demo.cxx)
target_link_libraries(js_demo
@@ -59,6 +61,8 @@ target_link_libraries(js_demo
${PLIB_LIBRARIES}
${SIMGEAR_CORE_LIBRARY_DEPENDENCIES})
+set_target_properties ( js_demo PROPERTIES DEBUG_POSTFIX d )
+
flightgear_component(Input ${SOURCES} ${HEADERS})
install(TARGETS fgjs js_demo RUNTIME DESTINATION bin)
diff --git a/src/Main/CMakeLists.txt b/src/Main/CMakeLists.txt
index 259b511..39ca2af 100644
--- a/src/Main/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/src/Main/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -67,6 +67,8 @@ source_group(Main\\Headers FILES ${HEADERS})
source_group(Main\\Sources FILES ${SOURCES})
add_executable(fgfs ${SOURCES} ${FG_SOURCES} ${FG_HEADERS} ${HEADERS})
+set_target_properties ( fgfs PROPERTIES DEBUG_POSTFIX d )
+
# disable sqlite3 dynamic lib support
# this should really be a SOURCE property, but the way we handle
# Fcomponent sources is making that tricky
@@ -119,4 +121,6 @@ target_link_libraries(metar
${PLATFORM_LIBS}
)
+set_target_properties ( metar PROPERTIES DEBUG_POSTFIX d )
+
install(TARGETS metar RUNTIME DESTINATION bin)
diff --git a/utils/GPSsmooth/CMakeLists.txt b/utils/GPSsmooth/CMakeLists.txt
index 2349cc7..4b4690f 100644
--- a/utils/GPSsmooth/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/utils/GPSsmooth/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -38,4 +38,8 @@ target_link_libraries(UGsmooth
${ZLIB_LIBRARY}
)
+set_target_properties ( GPSsmooth PROPERTIES DEBUG_POSTFIX d )
+set_target_properties ( MIDGsmooth PROPERTIES DEBUG_POSTFIX d )
+set_target_properties ( UGsmooth PROPERTIES DEBUG_POSTFIX d )
+
install(TARGETS GPSsmooth MIDGsmooth UGsmooth RUNTIME DESTINATION bin)
diff --git a/utils/TerraSync/CMakeLists.txt b/utils/TerraSync/CMakeLists.txt
index cc27ec8..0ec9e5b 100644
--- a/utils/TerraSync/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/utils/TerraSync/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -6,4 +6,7 @@ target_link_libraries(terrasync
${SIMGEAR_CORE_LIBRARY_DEPENDENCIES}
)
+set_target_properties ( terrasync PROPERTIES DEBUG_POSTFIX d )
+
install(TARGETS terrasync RUNTIME DESTINATION bin)
+
diff --git a/utils/fgadmin/src/CMakeLists.txt b/utils/fgadmin/src/CMakeLists.txt
index 42b95d7..5ccb618 100644
--- a/utils/fgadmin/src/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/utils/fgadmin/src/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -15,4 +15,6 @@ target_link_libraries(fgadmin FGAdminUI
${ZLIB_LIBRARY}
)
+set_target_properties ( fgadmin PROPERTIES DEBUG_POSTFIX d )
+
install(TARGETS fgadmin RUNTIME DESTINATION bin)
diff --git a/utils/fgelev/CMakeLists.txt b/utils/fgelev/CMakeLists.txt
index 90b52c0..50c1d35 100644
--- a/utils/fgelev/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/utils/fgelev/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -7,4 +7,6 @@ target_link_libraries(fgelev
${SIMGEAR_CORE_LIBRARY_DEPENDENCIES}
)
+set_target_properties ( fgelev PROPERTIES
[Flightgear-devel] jenkins building windows Debug
Hi jenkins maintainers, On the theme of building Windows Debug configuration... It would be great if jenkins ALSO built the Debug builds... And would thus also offer the Debug builds for the 3rdParty components... that is all the libraries with a d appended... I can not find this/these, but maybe I missed them... Regards, Geoff. PS: I also note that on jenkins all the small icons seem 'broken', for quite some time now... Not particularly a problem, but does not look so 'nice' ;=)) -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery not being loaded
On Sun, 2012-11-11 at 18:04 +0100, ThorstenB wrote:
If anyone was interested/able to fix the support for relative paths on
Windows, please implement SGPath::realpath in simgear/misc/sg_path.cxx:
Hi Thorsten,
re: std::string SGPAth::realpath() const
That's strange no one has done this for WIN32 ;=()
Do NOT know about the MAC, but WIN32 has always,
ALWAYS had, in stdlib.h -
char *_fullpath( char *absPath, const
char *relPath, size_t maxlength );
So that gives something very similar to realpath()...
#if defined(_WIN32)
// with absPath NULL, will allocate, and ignore length
char *buf = _fullpath( NULL, path.c_str(), _MAX_PATH );
if (!buf) {
SG_LOG(... as per unix ...);
return path; // failed, return path as is
}
std::string p(buf);
free(buf); // was allocated using malloc(), so
return p;
#elsif defined(_APPLE_) (MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED = 1050)
return path;
#else
// current unix code
...
#endif
And although I do not have a lot of experience with
Cygwin I understand it knows how to convert a DOS/
Windows path to its unix kludge, /c/..., so do not
need to do anything special... but maybe...
But this is all aside from the possible 'bug'
Jon is pointing out...
HTH,
Regards,
Geoff.
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[Flightgear-devel] Windows SG DLL build - NO GO!
Hi all,
Wow, I recently had the occasion to
experiment with building the SG shared
library, DLL, in Windows... a NO GO ;=((
Well, with a fresh SG clone, yesterday I
think, first I needed to patch the
simgear/CMakeLists.txt to get cmake to
even start building - patch given below...
The two changes are to add the winsock2 library,
and since in windows there are two components
built, you MUST provide a 'target' for each.
In general the .lib goes in the 'lib' directory as
usual, but the DLL is a 'runtime' component, thus
must go in the 'bin' directory with the executable.
But that was just the tip of the iceberg ;=))
While that succeeded in getting the Windows DLL
SimGearCore.dll built, NO archive library was
generated. And without such a 'library' you can
not 'link' to the DLL. It 'exports' nothing, and
is quite useless...
Now, as the windows people know, there are just
two ways to 'export' functions, variables, classes
from a windows DLL build -
1. Use __declspec()
2. Use a DEF file
1. Use __declspec()
This declaration has to be added to each and every
function, variables, class you want to export.
This is usually done with a macro of the form -
#ifdef WIN32
#ifdef SG_LIBRARY /* building the library */
#define SG_EXPORT __declspec(dllexport)
#else /* link with application */
#define SG_EXPORT __declspec(dllimport)
#endif
#else /* not in windows */
#define SG_EXPORT extern
#endif
This could probably go in say compiler.h...
Then every function exported needs this
declaration, like -
SG_EXPORT int foo();
SG_EXPORT class X {} varX;
SG_EXPORT ULONG ulDataInDll;
Like in say xml/easyxml.hxx, in part...
class SG_EXPORT XMLAttributes
{
public:
// ...
};
...
SG_EXPORT void readXML (istream input, ...);
SG_EXPORT void readXML (const string path,...);
And so on, and On, and ON ;=)) For each SG
header that exports something as part of the
SG API...
2. Use a DEF file
=
In this Module-Definition file EVERY function,
variable to be exported has to be declared!
EXPORTS
foo @1
ulDataInDll DATA
readXML
# and onward for all SG API items
Not sure how classes are declared in here...
and the assignment of an ordinal value, like @1
to @N, is optional...
And then that simgear.def file added to the
cmake list file for the windows build. cmake
handles it without problems...
And that DEF file has to be maintained.
Function names removed or added as the API
changes...
And then another matter noted...
3. SG SO Version
At present it seems only one DLL is produced,
SimGearCore.dll
without a 'version' indication... like say
SimGearCore29.dll
SimGearCore29.lib
In a fast changing API, like SG is, then it
is essential that the DLL be version-ed... like
I assume it is in unix...
And like say the OSG Windows DLLs are, like ...
osg92-osg.dll, but just noted they do not
add this to the libraries - it is always just
osg.lib.
But that is ok since which ever osg.lib you
link with, will automatically 'force' a version
DLL...
So likewise maybe one name, SimGearCore.lib
would be ok...
But this version is important, since
if you built say the 2.8 DLL they can NOT
be used for 2.9 due to several API changes...
And in this case that is ignoring that
2.8 would be 20+ DLLs, versus 2.9 of two...
But here I am talking about API changes like -
sgGetMagVar(lon, lat, elev, ...
to
sgGetMagVar(SGGeod, ...
which may have happened even before 2.8...
did not check the date of this change...
And this SO version would needed to be
kicked for EACH API change... more maintenance,
which I hope IS being done in unix...
Conclusion
==
As you can see, this would be *L*O*T*S* of
work and FOREVER continued maintenance...
although using 1, once developers got into
the habit of using SG_EXPORT, then this could
be minimized...
But maybe we would be better off removing the
SIMGEAR_SHARED option if WIN32 ;=))
That is do NOT offer an option that can NOT
be used!
And of course, I really wonder WHY we added
a 'shared' version of SG at all... but that
is another topic...
I assume someone had a 'good' only-for-UNIX
reason ;=))
In general, in Windows, using a DLL is a
real PITA!
HTH.
Regards,
Geoff.
patch
diff --git a/simgear/CMakeLists.txt b/simgear/CMakeLists.txt
index d505998..9bb8dce 100644
--- a/simgear/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/simgear/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -64,7 +64,10 @@ if(SIMGEAR_SHARED)
target_link_libraries(SimGearCore ${ZLIB_LIBRARY} ${RT_LIBRARY}
${EXPAT_LIBRARIES}
${CMAKE_THREAD_LIBS_INIT})
-
+if (WIN32)
+target_link_libraries(SimGearCore ${WINSOCK_LIBRARY})
+endif (WIN32)
+
if(LIBSVN_FOUND)
target_link_libraries(SimGearCore ${LIBSVN_LIBRARIES})
endif(LIBSVN_FOUND)
@@ -86,10 +89,19 @@ if(SIMGEAR_SHARED)
${OPENGL_LIBRARY}
${JPEG_LIBRARY})
-install(TARGETS SimGearScene LIBRARY DESTINATION
${CMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR})
[Flightgear-devel] gitorious down?
Hi all, For the last hour or so http://gitorious.org/fg seems down ;=(( I'm in France, near Paris. Are others having this problem? Or is it just my ISP - Orange? Regards, Geoff. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] gitorious down? Now UP ;=))
Hi Gijs, Yes, it seems back up now... Must learn to check that blog ;=)) I did search around a bit but did not find it earlier... And is seems there is also a status URL http://status.gitorious.org/ which I should remember to try... Thanks, Geoff. On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 13:53 +0200, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Hi Geoff, Works fine here. There was some maintenance earlier today, so maybe you were affected by that? http://blog.gitorious.org/2012/10/23/maintenance-window-thursday-at-1300-cet/ Cheers, Gijs From: ubu...@geoffair.info To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:25:48 +0200 Subject: [Flightgear-devel] gitorious down#63; Hi all, For the last hour or so http://gitorious.org/fg seems down ;=(( I'm in France, near Paris. Are others having this problem#63; Or is it just my ISP - Orange#63; Regards, Geoff. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble
On Sat, 2012-09-22 at 19:44 +, Martin Spott wrote: Alan Teeder wrote: New flightgear git users are faced with an initial download of about 10gb just to get started. Currently the fgdata GIT repo has approx. 4.9 GByte, Martin. Hi Martin, Alan, Bertrand, et al... I guess we each have a 'different' way of measuring things ;=)) This is back on Sep 1, and it grows every day... /media/Disk2/FG/fg20$ dirdate fgdata Processed 9130 directories, 59899 files, 11,281,006,933 bytes. Latest : fgdata/.git/index 2012/08/01 16:08:21, of 59899 files. /media/Disk2/FG/fg20$ dirsize fgdata Doing du -b -s fgdata... moment... Total of [fgdata] = 11,298,718,037 bytes (10.52GB) Ok, now I know some MORE git commands that reduce this on disk size, thanks Bertrand, $ git repack $ git gc $ git prune but that does not stop the initial download into fgdata/.git /media/Disk2/FG/fg20/fgdata$ dirsize .git Doing du -b -s .git... moment... Total of [.git] = 4,419,875,575 bytes (4.12GB) It seems a shame all the discussion I saw about somehow splitting this 4-5GB download came to nothing ;=(( It seems 'some' absolutely wanted to keep a single git command to get it ALL... while I would see no trouble in a simple clean split... like - $ git clone base-repo fgdata $ cd fgdata $ git clone Aircraft-repo Aircraft /media/Disk2/FG/fg20/fgdata$ dirsize Aircraft Doing du -b -s Aircraft... moment... Total of [Aircraft] = 5,879,186,664 bytes (5.48GB) so assume the .git portion of this would be similarly about half... But that does not stop the BIG initial downloads, just splits it into 2, so perhaps better - $ git clone base-repo fgdata also includes a dozen or so Aircraft, like the windows release packages... Then I go somewhere else to ADD Aircraft, when, if I want... Perhaps a nice little GUI app, that lets me choose which aircraft I want to add... maybe does a download of a zip file, and continues to unzip it into - /fgdata/Aircraft Something I think Pete was working on... Or into a 'separate' folder since I think we do now support multiple 'aircraft' directories, or should if we don't... And it would be nice if that app could also download from other people's 'hangars'... So you can see I am strongly with Alan on this... this topic needs to be continued, and resolved... BTW, my makefg script also frequently FAILS on fgdata - clone or pull... So much so that I usually now always do that manually... seems git does not like to be 'managed' in a script... Regards, Geoff. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble
On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 17:43 +0100, Peter Morgan wrote: I got a really really slow connection Got around the git problem by using a script on a dedicated to pull from git, and push to a subversion, which runs twice a day I then checkout from subversion read only of course, it works a treat and get all updates very quickly.. However this approach is not for development, but as an user its a very efficient way to keep up to data with master and 2.8 etc Pete Hi Pete, What about the idea I thought you were working on of zipping each aircraft - presumably regularly updated as more git changes happen - and having like the FGx GUI downloading and installing these at the users choice/request? Thus an initial install of fgdata would only have a dozen or so a/c, like the releases, but additional a/c could be easily installed on selection... Or did this not work out... Regards, Geoff. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j? http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen
Hi Alasdair, I also do not think it is OS related, since I have seen this 'sometimes' in Windows 7 64-bit, with AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series with (I hope) the latest Catalyst driver! At the time I thought little of it since it seemed to go away a few seconds later... by itself... In the Catalyst Control Center it shows a Driver Package Version 8.961-120405a-137813C-ATI, Catalyst Version 12.1, dated 29-Feb-2012... Hmmm, contrary to last time I checked for updates, it does now report a later Catalyst version 12.8 available... will download and try that... Now shows driver 8.982-120727a-145524C-ATI in Catalyst 12.8, dated today... Just tried FG 2.8.9.4 with 777-200 and no problem, but as indicated it only happened 'sometimes' and was never able to isolate the specific scenario that caused it... maybe as you indicate it is a/c specific... Found any reason why adding the radar to the aircraft made it go away... Will keep testing with different aircraft... Regards, Geoff. On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 09:39 -0600, syd adams wrote: Im running Ubuntu , still get that problem.I've added the radar to my intrumentation file in my affected aircraft , and the problem is gone.Strange. Syd On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 01:06 +0200, ThorstenB wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: After git pull (sg,fg,fgdata) a couple of days ago, I was presented with a strange screen which I had not seen before. My regular was shown as a sub-screen in the bottom-left corner. Clicking the maximise widget restores full screen, but any click on a menu item returns me to this stupid screen. Is this infuriating behaviour deliberate, or has my graphics driver gone walk-about? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15936159/fg_quarter-screen.png Unfortunately a long standing issue. This affects ATI graphics cards when running newer drivers. It can be fixed by reverting to an older ATI driver (see link below). To me it looked like a genuine OSG or ATI driver bug (the size of the graphics view port doesn't properly resize to the size of the window), but it's likely triggered by something special we're doing in FG, since other applications don't seem to have this issue. Also, it's timing-/sequence dependant: it only affects certain aircraft (aircraft using wxradar, which changes/delays the OSG init sequence on startup, are less likely to have the issue) - and for some people it dis- and reappears with certain FG builds. It would be really good if someone seeing the issue locally could properly debug this - even if it means digging into OSG - since a larger number of people are affected. I tried remote debugging this a while ago, but gave up after being unable to narrow it down inside FG. Maybe someone else has better luck. For more see here: http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=385 cheers, Thorsten Thanks very much for the link, Thorsten, it is a good start. But strange that this problem, should just appear without any driver change. But I am using Debian SID, and update my system daily, so it could be OS-related. I will install UBUNTU and try the same build under that OS. regards, Alasdair -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v2.9 debug version, error about GUI
On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 14:19 +0800, Liuwh wrote: Hi all, I downloaded FlightGear/SimGear/fgdata v2.9 via GIT, and also downloaded pre-compiled 3rdParty dependencies from ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/MSVC/fgfs-win32-VS100-3rdParty+OSG-20120411.zip I built it, the release version can run well, but the debug version crashed when I the weather from dialog and click close, the result was the same when I operated the menu and click apply or close. The call stack indicates that program stopped in _CrtIsValidHeapPointer called by puGroup from PLIB functions. Did anyone ever encounter this problem? BTW, the debug version runs very slow, I don't know whether this also occured when others debugging FlightGear. Thanks! Hi Liuwh, Not sure why you are trying to build the Debug version of fgfs, since the 3rd party zip you mentioned does NOT contain the 3rdparty Debug library builds... This is no particular problem when the library is a DLL (shared) library, except you will not be able to trace into it, but you are mixing the runtimes Release and Debug when using static libraries like PLIB... Quite surprised you even got Debug fgfs to link... I am steadily building up a parallel Release and Debug build, see - http://downloads.fgx.ch/WIN32 but note I have not yet added say plib-msvc100-rel, nor dbg.zip, and some others, yet... Must try to get to that soon..., Second, the Debug version certainly runs up to 10 or MORE times SLOWER ;=(( (a) All functions have extended entry and exit code, prologue and epilogue, where the user stack is filled with a pattern like 0xdd, so the runtime can check if you have initialized all the required variables before using them... (b) All functions perform stack level checking on exit. (c) All memory allocated is a special debug allocation where more than the requested bytes is allocated, and a leader and trailer area are again filled with a pattern, 0xde IIRC, and the application receives a pointer after the leader so on memory release, the runtime can check if you have under or over run the requested memory... Now fgfs allocates a LOT of memory, and this includes memory for std lists, vectors, maps, etc, so for example you will see it spends a long time to say load the navaids... and lots more time loading scenery... etc. (d) And the Debug version has a LOT of assert() code added... In fact it is sometimes difficult to get the Debug version to run without the usual assertion failed dialog... Maybe that is what you mentioned as _CrtIsValidHeapPointer... These 'bugs' that show up only in the MSVC Debug version seldom get addressed, since there are very few of us ready to take all the time required to track them down ;=(( and then convince the big unix base developers that there is a problem that they just do NOT see... HTH, and I am glad to hear the Release runs well... congrats on doing your own build ;=)) That takes some effort... Enjoy... Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v2.9 debug version, error about GUI
Hi Liuwh, Just added plib-msvc100-rel-4.zip and plib-msvc100-dbg-4.zip... to - http://downloads.fgx.ch/WIN32/ so you could try linking with those... Should be able to unzip them into your 3rdparty folder, overwriting the existing ones... But you may still be missing some others... Regards, Geoff. On Mon, 2012-08-27 at 14:19 +0800, Liuwh wrote: Hi all, I downloaded FlightGear/SimGear/fgdata v2.9 via GIT, and also downloaded pre-compiled 3rdParty dependencies from ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/MSVC/fgfs-win32-VS100-3rdParty+OSG-20120411.zip I built it, the release version can run well, but the debug version crashed when I the weather from dialog and click close, the result was the same when I operated the menu and click apply or close. The call stack indicates that program stopped in _CrtIsValidHeapPointer called by puGroup from PLIB functions. Did anyone ever encounter this problem? BTW, the debug version runs very slow, I don't know whether this also occured when others debugging FlightGear. Thanks! -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear v2.9 debug version, error about GUI
PS: You may have to 'adjust' the library names a little since I think in the find plib case cmake searches for xxx_d.lib for debug, and these are just with a xxxd.lib... You have to make sure cmake 'finds' and uses these debug libraries for the Debug link... Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error building FG on Windows (linking)
Hi Carbax, Sorry for using your family name, but do not know your first name ;=)) As Fred points out there is something quite strange here concerning OSG libraries... they did NOT get added to the link!!! And yes there is a BIG clue in your bldlog-1.txt... I have put my equivalent last bldlog-1.txt at :- http://geoffair.org/tmp/bldlog-1.txt Compare the difference commencing at about line 27-28 through to about line 40 only... In my case after cmake finds ALUT, it then finds osgText, osgSim, etc... down to 'Found OpenSceneGraph: followed by a big list of OSG libraries... Your bldlog-1.txt does NOT show these lines... Why? WHY?? I checked again and the zip I put on my site DOES definitively include - install\msvc100\OpenSceneGraph\lib\OpenThreads.lib \osg.lib \osgAnimation.lib etc, etc, etc... which, again as Fred points out, I got some time ago from the jenkins build... And as per about the 5th line of your bldlog-1.txt which says - Set ENVIRONMENT OSG_DIR=D:\FG2\install\msvc100\openscenegraph you should be able to confirm this by doing a dir D:\FG2\install\msvc100\openscenegraph\lib and reporting the list found... So we come back to the question WHY did cmake NOT find these in your case??? Has the jenkins version changed. The last archive I got was April/May! I would have updated to a later but the day I did that simpits was down... and still seems down for getting say OSG-stable... But cmake must have found the OSG includes otherwise there would be hundreds of compiler errors about NOT finding osg include files... The errors are ONLY in the link, and as stated that is because the OSG libraries, which I assume are all there, simply did NOT get added by cmake to the fgfs link line... I am perplexed! I do not know why cmake skipped these important osg library finds... and did not abort if it failed to find them... Does anyone else have a clue ;=(( Do not give up! There must be some 'simple' explanation here ;=)) Regards, Geoff. On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 17:59 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Where is OSG 3 ? It's a required dependency. You can download it from Jenkins if you don't want to build it yourself -Fred - Mail original - De: M. Carbax mcar...@gmail.com À: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Envoyé: Samedi 11 Août 2012 17:52:45 Objet: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error building FG on Windows (linking) Hi Geoff: First at all, thanks for your support and your insterest helping and encouraging me. Second: there is no way, I did follow the instructions you send me, sg with no problems, but fg doesn't work with the same error that always (I have to say that I use the MSVC 2010 Express). Nevertheless, please find enclosed the log file just in case you can see a clue . (https://www.dropbox.com/s/j6p2qka867gn03o/bldlog-1.txt) Many thanks, -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error building FG on Windows (linking)
Hi Alan, What I passed was a full command line build... no GUI... Carbax, what Alan is suggesting here is good... In the build-fg folder do - build-fg cmake-gui . (note this dot, '.') and the CMake GUI should load... Or you can load the cmake GUI from the ICON, and point it to the source - D:\FG2\flightgear, and the build - D:\FG2\build-fg... This GUI will allow you to click [ Configure ], and then you can check what it finds regarding the OSG libraries.. You can make sure it finds the OSG libraries BEFORE doing the [ Generate ] step... If [ Generate ] is successful... if not or still some other problem, advise... Now you can load flightgear.sln into MSVC10, switch to the Release build, and as Alan points out, open the properties of the fgfs project, and MAKE SURE there are a big bunch of osg libraries in the Link properties... If there are then you can press F7 to build it within the MSVC10 GUI... and fgfs should build, and link ;=)) Make sure you switch to Release... Do not try to build the Debug since you do not have the Debug components... This does NOT answer why the command line usage FAILED, but should get you to a successful build in the MSVC10 IDE ;=)) Regards, Geoff. On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 18:00 +0100, Alan Teeder wrote: Run Cmake again for the flightgear project. You should see correct (e.g. d:\fg2\install\msvc100\OpenSceneGraph\include) for all of the OSGxx_INCLUDE_DIR entries, and (e.g. d:\fg2\install\msvc100\OpenSceneGraph\lib\osgxx.lib) for each of the OSGxx_LIBRARY_DIR entries. Then do CMAKE Configure and Generate, followed by MSVC build project. As a check make sure that the OSG libraries are included in the fgfs linker project command line. (see fgfs properties) -Original Message- From: M. Carbax Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 5:41 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error building FG on Windows (linking) Hi Fred: I have the recommended directory structure so is d:\fg2\install\msvc100\OpenSceneGraph, and there the three subdirectories bin, include and lib. Thanks, -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error building FG on Windows (linking)
Hi, Just to try it, took the suggested advice - in my build-fg folder... I found I had to click [ Configure ] twice... before I got a clear board... that is no RED lines... this is normal... Looking down the list I can see a LOT of -NOTFOUND, but they are ALL like OSGXX_LIBRARY_DEBUG-NOTFOUND which is to be expected... There are no DEBUG parts to be found. You have to build from source to get those, although I am building up a set of these in - http://downloads.fgx.ch/WIN32 See say openscenegraph-msvc100-dbg-1.zip... and you need all the other '-dbg' items as well... later I will try to put these 'downloads' in better order, and group some of them into a single zips... But in the CMake GUI each of the OSGXX_INCLUDE_DIR and OSGXXX_LIBRARY are all correctly filled in with, in my case - like - C:/FG/16-q/install/msvc100/OpenSceneGraph/lib/osgXXX.lib Now pressing [ Generate ] and it says 'Generating done' Now I close the GUI, and load MSVC10 onto build-fg\flightgear.sln... Switching to 'Release' and loading the fgfs Properties, expanding Linker - Input - Additional Dependencies - Edit I can scan down a big list of libraries ;=)) including all the simgear libraries and the osg libraries, and lots more... [ Cancel ] out of here... Pressing F7, and it all built and linked... without problem... of course, as usual lots, Lots and LOTS of 'warnings'... but ends with Build: 16 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 3 skipped == Still puzzled why the full command line approach FAILED in your case ;=(( But certainly hope you have more success in the CMake and then MSVC10 GUI approach ;=)) Advise if still problems... HTH, Regards, Geoff. Forwarded Message From: Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error building FG on Windows (linking) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:31:08 +0200 Hi Alan, What I passed was a full command line build... no GUI... Carbax, what Alan is suggesting here is good... In the build-fg folder do - build-fg cmake-gui . (note this dot, '.') and the CMake GUI should load... Or you can load the cmake GUI from the ICON, and point it to the source - D:\FG2\flightgear, and the build - D:\FG2\build-fg... This GUI will allow you to click [ Configure ], and then you can check what it finds regarding the OSG libraries.. You can make sure it finds the OSG libraries BEFORE doing the [ Generate ] step... If [ Generate ] is successful... if not or still some other problem, advise... Now you can load flightgear.sln into MSVC10, switch to the Release build, and as Alan points out, open the properties of the fgfs project, and MAKE SURE there are a big bunch of osg libraries in the Link properties... If there are then you can press F7 to build it within the MSVC10 GUI... and fgfs should build, and link ;=)) Make sure you switch to Release... Do not try to build the Debug since you do not have the Debug components... This does NOT answer why the command line usage FAILED, but should get you to a successful build in the MSVC10 IDE ;=)) Regards, Geoff. On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 18:00 +0100, Alan Teeder wrote: Run Cmake again for the flightgear project. You should see correct (e.g. d:\fg2\install\msvc100\OpenSceneGraph\include) for all of the OSGxx_INCLUDE_DIR entries, and (e.g. d:\fg2\install\msvc100\OpenSceneGraph\lib\osgxx.lib) for each of the OSGxx_LIBRARY_DIR entries. Then do CMAKE Configure and Generate, followed by MSVC build project. As a check make sure that the OSG libraries are included in the fgfs linker project command line. (see fgfs properties) -Original Message- From: M. Carbax Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 5:41 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error building FG on Windows (linking) Hi Fred: I have the recommended directory structure so is d:\fg2\install\msvc100\OpenSceneGraph, and there the three subdirectories bin, include and lib. Thanks, -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
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Hi, I can not leave this thread like this ;=(( I have NOT followed what your PARTICULAR problem is, but decided to do a 'quick' 2.9 build from source, using existing binaries, and found NO PROBLEMS... total build time approximately 3-4 hours... I AGREE the directory setup SUCKS big time, and the wiki does not yet give ALL the answers... and this, at the moment seem exacerbated by some Win32 parts of jenkins (simpits) seem DOWN... But in essence, following the wiki I built SG/FG in just some hours... was broken by a birthday lunch for my wife! ;=)) To try to make your life very SIMPLE I have uploaded a complete single build zip as - http://geoffair.org/tmp/fgfs-build-01.zip Be aware it is 48 MB... but contains EVERYTHING needed... It only requires you do the simgear, flightgear and fgdata clones, and RUN the build ONLY in the MSVC10 command prompt... All Programs - Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 - Visual Studio Tools - Visual Studio Command Prompt (2010) If you unzip this into some folder, preferably without spaces, it sets up a LOT of things, and then when in that folder in a MSVC10 prompt do :- It contains a README.msvc100.txt, but in essence it is - updsg.bat # clone the SG source cd build-sg build-sg.bat # build/install the SG libraries cd .. updfg.bat # clone the flightgear source cd build-fg build-fg.bat # build/install FG cd .. run-fg.bat# and FLY FREE ;=)) OR, if you feel LUCKY, just run build-all.bat... All assumes you have git setup to run from a command prompt... But I did NOT put much error checking in that bat... in my quite fast machine, I unzipped it into a new temp2 folder, and ran build-all... this took just 1 hour, and I was FLYING ;=)) with the world's BEST flight simulator... You have to watch it, and add the enter key twice... If you use this, and you have an error, send the relevant bldlog-1.txt file for inspection... AFTER you have checked it, and corrected any obvious problems ;=)) Of course, BEFORE the LAST step you need to DOWNLOAD fgdata to somewhere - https://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata It is BIG and HEAVY - 58 thousand files, 12 GB - takes HOURS even on my relative FAST internet connection... And adjust run-fg.bat to that folder. In my case that is C:\FG\fgdata But the run-fg.bat can be adjusted to anywhere... AND it further ASSUMES OpenAL (sound library) has been install system wide... Download and install say Setup FlightGear 2.8.0-RC4.exe, http://www.flightgear.org/download/ down near the bottom [Mirror 1] [Mirror 2] [Mirror 3] and during the install check install OpenAL if you have NOT done this before... You can also do this from the OpenAL site, downloading, and install their SDK, and alut... leave you to work out the details... Now, you might have chosen to GIVE UP ;=(( That is for sure your choice... the easy way out ;=)) Building SG/FG from source can certainly be quite FRUSTRATING in Windows ;=(( But this shows SG/FG can be easily built using MSVC10... albeit, with some messing with the binary downloads, and ensuring OpenAL is installed... Hope you will NOT 'give up', and take another little look... Enjoy ;=)) Regards, Geoff. On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 20:32 +0200, M. Carbax wrote: No way. I brougth from http://flightgear.simpits.org:8080/ everything but FG source, so I put the source(2.9.0) into thedirectory structure to build with Cmake and MSVC10 and NO way, same errors. Thanks folks for your support, I give up. 2012/8/8 M. Carbax mcar...@gmail.com: Thanks Fred, I'll try my last chance :( -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Windows Abort Retry Ignore dialog at startup
' _getter
fgfs.exe!SGRawValueMethodsIndexedJSBSim::
FGStandardAtmosphere,double::getValue() Line 589 + 0x27 bytes
getting the tied JSBSim::FGStandardAtmosphere,double
By setting a debug trap here the first call to here is to
get_magnetos(int engine) in src\aircraft\controls.hxx,
which I can see in disassembly is a stdcall. That is
it ends with ret 4!
The next call to this 589 is get_carb_heat, again a
stdcall - ends with ret 4!
But there are __cdecl on some things, like
call SGAnimation::animate
add esp,18h ; fix up the stack
So, the code is a mixture of __cdecl and stdcall!
But who, what, how, is this decided? Not sure...
Now to try to back up to where JSBSim is setting
this _getter...
This seems to be in -
src\FDM\JSBSim\models\atmosphere\FGStandardAtmosphere.cpp
v 1.21 2012/04/13 13:18:27 jberndt, so does not appear
to be exactly 'new' code...
In bind(), the getter/setter are tied to functions
void FGStandardAtmosphere::bind(void)
{
typedef double (FGStandardAtmosphere::*PMFi)(int) const;
typedef void (FGStandardAtmosphere::*PMF)(int, double);
PropertyManager-Tie(atmosphere/delta-T, this, eRankine,
(PMFi)FGStandardAtmosphere::GetTemperatureBias,
(PMF)FGStandardAtmosphere::SetTemperatureBias);
PropertyManager-Tie(atmosphere/SL-graded-delta-T, this, eRankine,
(PMFi)FGStandardAtmosphere::GetTemperatureDeltaGradient,
(PMF)FGStandardAtmosphere::SetSLTemperatureGradedDelta);
PropertyManager-Tie(atmosphere/P-sl-psf, this, ePSF,
(PMFi)FGStandardAtmosphere::GetPressureSL,
(PMF)FGStandardAtmosphere::SetPressureSL);
}
These are all 'virtual' functions in FGStandardAtmosphere.h,
replacing the base FGAtmosphere class, FGAtmosphere.h,
which in turn replace the base.base FGModel class, FGModel.h,
in the base.base.base FGModelFunctions, in the basex4
FGJSBBase class... but it all looks fine ;=()
But again and again I see some things are definitely
__cdecl, like -
push eax
push ecx
push edx
push eax
call copyProperties
add esp,10h
And others are stdcall, like
push eax
call get_throttle ; inline get_throttle(int eng)
ret 4
Like all the FGControls - controls.hxx - all end
with ret 4 - stdcall...
BUT, BUT, BUT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT the function -
virtual double GetPressureSL(void)
is NOT... it does a simple return...
All the others seem be an 'index' getter, but
note GetPressureSL is a (void) - NO INDEX!!!
So WHY does this GetPressureSL get included in
the above bind() where the typedef is -
typedef double (FGStandardAtmosphere::*PMFi)(int)
const;
Is this the problem? It seems to match the dialog
report that a function pointer and a function have
different declarations...
BAH! This seems like an endless chase ;=(( I suppose
I just know, understand enough to get myself into
trouble ;=))
Unless I have somehow stumbled on a real BUG, and
it can be fixed, or someone else has some ideas I
will give it up for a while... this has already
consumed most of today...
Meantime will continue with the big setup to be able
to eventually build the 64-bit version... first
re-compiling all the dependencies in 64-bits...
yuck...
Regards,
Geoff.
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From: Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info
To: flightgear-devel flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Windows Abort Retry Ignore dialog at startup
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 20:38:42 +0200
Hi all,
Each, SG/FG/fgdata updated to release/2.8.0 today.
Full SG then FG clean and build using MSVC10 in Win 7,
64-bit...
That is with like -
$ git pull origin next
$ git fetch --all
$ git checkout release/2.8.0
$ git reset --hard origin/release/2.8.0
$ git branch
next
* release/2.8.0
followed by a full clean and build in an
o-o-s folder...
When the splash screen is showing 'initializing
subsystems' after several seconds, get an ugly
Abort/Retry/Ignore dialog ;=((
See:
http://geoffair.org/tmp/error-01.jpg
Have tried Ignore, but it keeps coming back,
and leads to other abort dialogs...
Only console output is -
KI226 dme indicator #0 initialized
loading scenerio 'nimitz_demo'
And will also try turning on log level debug
to see if I can closer track down where and
when it is happening...
As can be seen in the dialog it indicates the ESP
was not saved across a function call and that this
is usually the result of a function declared with
one calling convention, say stdcall, while a
function pointer is declared with a different
convention like say __cdecl ;=((
Is anyone else seeing this? Seen this? Found
a fix? ...
And indeed the line indicated, 589, in simgear
prop.hxx is a call through a pointer -
if (_getter) { return (_obj.*_getter)(_index); }
The getter_t _getter is declared without a
declared calling convention like -
typedef T (C::*getter_t)(int) const;
which means it would be the default, which is
__cdecl (/Gd) in MSVC10, as it has been
[Flightgear-devel] Windows Abort Retry Ignore dialog at startup
Hi all,
Each, SG/FG/fgdata updated to release/2.8.0 today.
Full SG then FG clean and build using MSVC10 in Win 7,
64-bit...
That is with like -
$ git pull origin next
$ git fetch --all
$ git checkout release/2.8.0
$ git reset --hard origin/release/2.8.0
$ git branch
next
* release/2.8.0
followed by a full clean and build in an
o-o-s folder...
When the splash screen is showing 'initializing
subsystems' after several seconds, get an ugly
Abort/Retry/Ignore dialog ;=((
See:
http://geoffair.org/tmp/error-01.jpg
Have tried Ignore, but it keeps coming back,
and leads to other abort dialogs...
Only console output is -
KI226 dme indicator #0 initialized
loading scenerio 'nimitz_demo'
And will also try turning on log level debug
to see if I can closer track down where and
when it is happening...
As can be seen in the dialog it indicates the ESP
was not saved across a function call and that this
is usually the result of a function declared with
one calling convention, say stdcall, while a
function pointer is declared with a different
convention like say __cdecl ;=((
Is anyone else seeing this? Seen this? Found
a fix? ...
And indeed the line indicated, 589, in simgear
prop.hxx is a call through a pointer -
if (_getter) { return (_obj.*_getter)(_index); }
The getter_t _getter is declared without a
declared calling convention like -
typedef T (C::*getter_t)(int) const;
which means it would be the default, which is
__cdecl (/Gd) in MSVC10, as it has been for a
long time...
This suggest somewhere a call setting this _getter
pointer is passing a function declared with
say stdcall, fastcall or something other than
__cdecl...
Anyway, totally at a loss to find and fix this.
Any ideas, thoughts, things to try, very VERY
welcome...
Regards,
Geoff.
PS: In not quite the same rigorous cleaning,
updating re-build etc, also see/seen the SAME
thing in XP 32-bit with MSVC8... which suggests
it is not the compiler version, or OS version...
And does NOT happen in Ubuntu 10.04 64-bits...
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch for metar.exe for windows
Hi Chris,
You are right to question why 1.1, but I guess since
SG/FG family mainly follows POSIX (Berkely/BSD) sockets,
no Microsoft extensions are used or needed, so
requesting 1.1 seems ok, so this is deliberate...
In all code cases checked, we do however include
WinSock2.h, except in some cases where windows.h
is included first, which will load winsock.h unless
WIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN has been declared...
And the link is against ws2_32.lib, so yes maybe
the WSACancelBlockingCall() could be removed, making
the net_exit() with no error check - it is only called
atexit() - so maybe simply :-
static void net_exit ( void )
{
#ifdef WIN32
WSACleanup();
#endif
}
Of course it could be made more complicated,
checking for -
#ifdef _WINSOCK2API_
indicating that we could use version 2.2, but
maybe this is not needed... 1.1 works fine...
But thanks... this is the 'standard' I will follow in
future in my windows coding where I want the code
portable to other platforms... ;=))
And thanks to James for pushing to metar_main.cxx -
+ Socket::initSockets();
Maybe you should also consider the above net_exit
change in the sgio library... unless you have already
done it, and I missed the change... ;=))
Regards,
Geoff.
On Sat, 2012-07-28 at 10:03 +1200, Chris Forbes wrote:
Geoff, your patch is asking for the quirky old win95-era winsock1.1.
Is this intentional? WSACancelBlockingCall and friends don't exist in
modern winsock.
-- Chris
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info wrote:
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 17:39 +0100, James Turner wrote:
On 27 Jul 2012, at 16:37, Geoff McLane wrote:
For a long, LONG time the small utility program
metar.exe has failed to work in windows...
It turns out WSAStartup() is NOT called, thus the
HTTP request always fails...
Applied this simple patch below, and all is
well ;=))
Hope this can get into fg git, and I hope pushed
to Release/2.8.0 as well, and thus get into
the next fgrun release 2.8 windows install...
There's an even simpler fix: call:
int simgear::Socket::initSockets()
Which does whatever platform-specific socket initialisation is required.
James
Hi James,
Just as my patch does... SAME code except
for the throw sg_exception() ;=))
So 6 to one, and half dozen to the other...
Just hope one of them gets pushed ;=))
Regards,
Geoff.
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[Flightgear-devel] Patch for metar.exe for windows
Hi,
For a long, LONG time the small utility program
metar.exe has failed to work in windows...
It turns out WSAStartup() is NOT called, thus the
HTTP request always fails...
Applied this simple patch below, and all is
well ;=))
Hope this can get into fg git, and I hope pushed
to Release/2.8.0 as well, and thus get into
the next fgrun release 2.8 windows install...
Regards,
Geoff.
metar.patch
diff --git a/src/Main/metar_main.cxx b/src/Main/metar_main.cxx
index 7b904d3..833ac2e 100644
--- a/src/Main/metar_main.cxx
+++ b/src/Main/metar_main.cxx
@@ -533,6 +533,45 @@ void usage()
);
}
+static bool doneNetInit = false;
+static void netExit(void)
+{
+if (doneNetInit)
+{
+#ifdef WIN32
+ /* Clean up windows networking */
+ if ( WSACleanup() == SOCKET_ERROR ) {
+ if ( WSAGetLastError() == WSAEINPROGRESS ) {
+ WSACancelBlockingCall();
+ WSACleanup();
+ }
+ }
+#endif // WIN32
+doneNetInit = false;
+}
+}
+
+static int netInit(void)
+{
+int iret = 0;
+if (!doneNetInit)
+{
+#ifdef WIN32
+ /* Start up the windows networking */
+ WORD version_wanted = MAKEWORD(1,1);
+ WSADATA wsaData;
+if ( WSAStartup(version_wanted, wsaData) != 0 ) {
+ printf(Couldn't initialize Winsock 1.1\n);
+ iret = 1;
+}
+#endif // WIN32
+doneNetInit = true;
+atexit( netExit );
+}
+return iret;
+}
+
+
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
bool report = true;
@@ -544,6 +583,8 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
return 0;
}
+if (netInit())
+return 1;
string proxy_host, proxy_port;
getproxy(proxy_host, proxy_port);
@@ -574,6 +615,9 @@ int main(int argc, char *argv[])
}
try {
+if (verbose)
+ printf(Getting metar for [%s]\n,argv[i]);
+
MetarRequest* mr = new MetarRequest(argv[i]);
HTTP::Request_ptr own(mr);
http.makeRequest(mr);
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Patch for metar.exe for windows
On Fri, 2012-07-27 at 17:39 +0100, James Turner wrote: On 27 Jul 2012, at 16:37, Geoff McLane wrote: For a long, LONG time the small utility program metar.exe has failed to work in windows... It turns out WSAStartup() is NOT called, thus the HTTP request always fails... Applied this simple patch below, and all is well ;=)) Hope this can get into fg git, and I hope pushed to Release/2.8.0 as well, and thus get into the next fgrun release 2.8 windows install... There's an even simpler fix: call: int simgear::Socket::initSockets() Which does whatever platform-specific socket initialisation is required. James Hi James, Just as my patch does... SAME code except for the throw sg_exception() ;=)) So 6 to one, and half dozen to the other... Just hope one of them gets pushed ;=)) Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Brief test with fgfs RC3 for windows
Hi,
Just installed in Windows 7 64-bits the FlightGear
RC3.exe for a trial, and noted some minor things -
1. It will install over your previous version, in
my case 2.6 unless you watch and change the
install path from C:\Program Files\FlightGear\...
In my case I changed the install to
C:\Program Files\FlightGear-2.8
so the icon correctly uses -
C:\Program Files\FlightGear-2.8\bin\Win64\fgrun.exe
BUT fgrun retains the paths to the previous
2.6, like
C:\Program Files\FlightGear\bin\Win64\fgfs.exe
C:\Program Files\FlightGear\data
I had to manually change these...
Maybe it would be better installing to say
C:\Program Files\FlightGear\2.6\
\2.8\ etc?
And the fgrun path to the cache of persistent
data perhaps should also change... like -
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\flightgear.org\fgrun\2.6\airports.txt
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\flightgear.org\fgrun\2.8\airports.txt
And say fgrun26.prefs fgrun28.prefs, or something,
making it possible to have 2 or more versions active
at one time...
Like I suppose a few people now, I like to keep the last
working version, while I try the latest, especially
now they are arriving each 6 months...
And a big thank you to those making that happen ;=))
And I think the installer will setup a desktop icon
labeled 'FlightGear 2.6...' unless you manually change
it...
2. On loading the sopwithCamel-YASim... get a console
output error of -
... running Camel utilities
Nasal runtime error: props.setDoubleValue() with non-number
at C:/Program Files/FlightGear-2.8/data/Nasal/props.nas, line 30
called from: C:/Program
Files/FlightGear-2.8/data/Aircraft/sopwithCamel/Models/fuel.nas, line
280
called from: C:/Program
Files/FlightGear-2.8/data/Aircraft/sopwithCamel/Models/fuel.nas, line
249
called from: C:/Program
Files/FlightGear-2.8/data/Aircraft/sopwithCamel/Models/fuel.nas, line 78
But can not particularly see why - fuel.nas has
249: initDoubleProp(t, level-gal_us, 0); 'looks' ok.
Except in the initDoubleProp function, it sets -
node = arg[0]; prop = arg[1]; val = arg[2]; ok,
and then does -
if(node.getNode(prop) != nil) {
val = num(node.getNode(prop).getValue());
}
280: node.getNode(prop, 1).setDoubleValue(val);
Could it be the nasal num() functions returns a
non-number???
I think this problem has been around for quite
some time, like back before 2.6...
Will continue doing some more testing as time
permits...
HTH.
Regards,
Geoff.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.8-RC3 Startup Failure for Unknown Reasons
Hi Thorsten, Keita, Just out of interest I installed the required Windows SDK just to get Dumpchk.exe... Have put the output at - http://geoffair.org/tmp/dumpchk.txt But as far as I can see this does not help very much. It mainly only advises all the DLLS loaded, and is not really a stack trace at all... Keita, as maybe you saw in my previous post where I installed and successfully ran fgfs/fgrun RC3 in my Windows 7 64-bit machine... same a/c 777-200... no problems... I get NONE of the console output you advised. Only Warning Electrical System ... ok loading scenario 'nimitz_demo; Electrical System ... ok AFDS System ... check Brake System... OK That is all... Have you successfully run previous versions of fgfs in that machine? You saw I mentioned that fgrun had used paths to a previous install, which Fred advised he has since fixed... And your console output suggests an older version of fgfs, or even fg data... some sort of mis-match... your output also includes the above items I show but LOTS of other errors I just do not get... Certainly your Windows Vista 64bit SP1, 4GB RAM, Pentium Dual-Core CPU (2.50GHz) and ATI Radeon HD 5450 GPU seem very adequate... But WAIT, you say 64-bit Vista, BUT fgfs/fgrun has installed in the 32-bit (legacy) directory... C:\Program Files (x86)\FlightGear Mine would have installed in C:\Program Files\FlightGear but I changed that to - C:\Program Files\FlightGear-2.8 because I already had 2.6 installed... that is the 64-bit directory... Keita, we simple need more details... somehow... Maybe if you UNINSTALL ALL versions of fgfs, and if possible completely remove the directories C:\Program Files (x86)\FlightGear and C:\Program Files\FlightGear and start with a single fresh install... You have advise you tried this, but somehow you do NOT seem to have a clean install... there seems a mixture of versions somehow... And if you can manage it I would also remove the persistent data folders, like ..\AppData\Roaming\flightgear.org or whatever it is in Vista. It is where there will be folders like fgrun, ai, Export, files like fgrun.prefs, autosave.xml... blow it all away... This is to try to make sure everything starts fresh... Would like to help you get it running... but do not know what else to suggest at this stage... Regards, Geoff. On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 19:57 +0200, ThorstenB wrote: Am 17.07.2012 05:14, schrieb Keita Yokoyama: DUMP FILE and .WER REPORT compressed into single ZIP file: http://www.mediafire.com/?3lwhbrd5dd9wdu7 It would be helpful if s.o. with a Windows PC could convert this dump into a human (developer :) ) readable stack trace - using Dumpchk.exe or something: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315263 cheers, Thorsten This is mostly copied from my FG Bug Tracker report: STEPS FOR ISSUE REPRODUCTION (no precedents to current issue reported) 1. Install FG ver 2.8.0.RC2 or RC3 on Windows. (User uses Vista 64bit with 4GB RAM, but 32bit version is force-installed. Computer has run FG successfully in the past up to ver 2.6) 2. Start with any aircraft at any airport, with the following parameters: C:\Program Files (x86)\FlightGear\bin\Win32\fgfs.exe --fg-root=C:\Program Files (x86)\FlightGear\data --fg-scenery=C:\Program Files (x86)\FlightGear\data\Scenery;C:\Program Files (x86)\FlightGear\scenery;C:\Program Files (x86)\FlightGear\terrasync --aircraft=777-200 --control=joystick --disable-random-objects --prop:/sim/rendering/random-vegetation=false --enable-hud --enable-anti-alias-hud --disable-hud-3d --enable-distance-attenuation --disable-specular-highlight --enable-ai-models --disable-ai-traffic --in-air --disable-real-weather-fetch --disable-clouds --enable-clouds3d --bpp=32 --timeofday=noon --prop:bool:/sim/rendering/random-buildings=false --log-level=warn 3. Run FGrun and hope FlightGear launches successfully. FG HAS been uninstalled and reinstalled at least three times, but all attempts lead to the same result. EXPECTED Outcome: FlightGear starts up with selected aircraft at selected airport. ACTUAL Outcome: FlightGear fails and crashes when splash screen starts to fade away. CONSOLE OUTPUT: Dir::children: FindFirstFile failed:C:/Program Files (x86)/FlightGear/data/Aircr aft Failed to create beacon for unknown runway 'KONT 26L OM'. Failed to create beacon for unknown runway 'KONT 26R OM'. Failed to create beacon for unknown runway 'KSAV 01 OM'. Failed to create beacon for unknown runway 'KSAV 10 OM'. Failed to create beacon for unknown runway 'PAYA 11 OM'. Failed to create beacon for unknown runway 'WARQ 26 OM'. Failed to create beacon for unknown runway 'WARR 10 OM'. Failed to create beacon for unknown runway 'ZULS 27R OM'. Failed to create beacon for unknown runway 'EDDB 07 MM'. Failed to create beacon for unknown runway 'EDDB 25 MM'. Failed to create beacon for unknown runway 'KIAD 01C MM'. Failed to create beacon for unknown runway
Re: [Flightgear-devel] socket communication
Hi Sanny,
If you want to communicate via sockets,
and 'get' or 'set' properties then this is the
page -
http://wiki.flightgear.org/Telnet_usage
But to expand that a little
1. server - Need to run fgfs with a command -
--telnet=port
This connects fgfs to localhost:port, but the read/write
is only POLLED a few times a second, forget the exact
default hertz, but it is very SLOW in relative terms...
The full generic 'telnet' command is -
--telnet=foo,bar,POLLRATE,foo,PORT,bar
The 'foo' and 'bar' can be anything, and are ignored.
If you want the interface polled at your current frame
rate, then the POLLRATE used should be greater than
your frame rate...
I usually use 100, but that does NOT mean it is polled
faster than your frame rate ;=)) but at least AT your
frame rate...
2. client - a tcp client to connect to the PORT
Below I give a working examples in perl, but it should be
easy to translate that to C/C++, or any other language
of your choice...
You have to get to 'know' the hundreds of properties
that can be read, and set. Use fgfs MENU Debug -
Browse Internal Properties to see all what is
available...
Of course setting some property will have
no effect if over-written by some other control,
input, like setting the elevators, and then moving
the joystick, or up-arrow key...
And some properties are 'tied' to others, which can
effect what happens, and you need to have some awareness
of what is returned - a string, double, bool, etc...
Lots of fun in learning ;=))
And if thought suitable, maybe the below perl
tested example could be added to the wiki...
HTH.
Regards,
Geoff.
fg-telnet.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use IO::Socket;
use Term::ReadKey; # for ReadMode
# run fgfs with TELNET enabled
# --telnet=foo,bar,100,foo,,bar
# otions
my $send_run_exit = 0; # if you want fgfs to shut down
my ($FGFS_IO); # Telnet IO handle
my $PORT = ;
my $HOST = 'localhost'; # or IP address
my $TIMEOUT = 3;
# some properties
my $get_Altitude = /position/altitude-ft;
my $get_Altitude_AGL = /position/altitude-agl-ft;
my $get_Latitude_deg = /position/latitude-deg;
my $get_Longitude_deg = /position/longitude-deg;
my $get_Track = /orientation/track-magnetic-deg;
my $nav_stg = /instrumentation/nav/frequencies/selected-mhz;
# Did not show - maybe the wrong property...
#my $hdg_bug_stg = /autopilot/settings/heading-bug-deg;
my $hdg_bug_stg = /instrumentation/heading-indicator/heading-bug-deg;
my @warnings = ();
sub prt($) { print shift; }
sub prtw($) {
my $msg = shift;
push(@warnings,$msg);
prt($msg);
}
# ### FG TELNET CREATION and IO ###
# ==
sub fgfs_connect($$$) {
my ($host,$port,$timeout) = @_;
my $socket;
STDOUT-autoflush(1);
prt(Connect $host, $port, timeout $timeout secs );
while ($timeout--) {
if ($socket = IO::Socket::INET-new(
Proto = 'tcp',
PeerAddr = $host,
PeerPort = $port)) {
prt( done.\n);
$socket-autoflush(1);
sleep 1;
return $socket;
}
prt(.);
sleep(1);
}
prt( FAILED!\n);
return 0;
}
sub fgfs_send($) {
print $FGFS_IO shift, \015\012;
}
sub fgfs_set($$) {
my ($node,$val) = @_;
fgfs_send(set $node $val);
return 1;
}
sub pgm_exit($$) {
my ($val,$msg) = @_;
# ...
if ($send_run_exit) {
fgfs_send(run exit); # YAHOO! THAT WORKED!!! PHEW!!!
sleep(5);
}
prt(Closing telnet IO ...\n);
if (defined $FGFS_IO) {
close $FGFS_IO;
undef $FGFS_IO;
}
ReadMode('normal'); # not sure this is required, or what it does
exactly
if (@warnings) {
prt(join(\n,@warnings).\n);
}
prt($msg) if (length($msg));
exit($val);
}
sub get_exit($) {
my ($val) = shift;
pgm_exit($val,fgfs get FAILED!\n);
}
sub fgfs_get($$) {
my ($txt,$rval) = @_;
fgfs_send(get $txt);
eof $FGFS_IO and return 0;
${$rval} = $FGFS_IO;
${$rval} =~ s/\015?\012$//;
${$rval} =~ /^-ERR (.*)/ and (prtw(WARNING: $1\n) and return 0);
return 1;
}
sub fgfs_get_aero($) {
my $ref = shift;# \$aero
fgfs_get(/sim/aero, $ref) or get_exit(-2); # string
return 1;
}
### main ###
# get the TELENET connection
$FGFS_IO = fgfs_connect($HOST, $PORT, $TIMEOUT) ||
pgm_exit(1,ERROR: can't open socket! Is FG running, with TELNET
enabled?\n);
ReadMode('cbreak'); # not sure this is required, or what it does exactly
fgfs_send(data); # switch fgfs exchange to data mode
# now you can read/write properties
# =
# read a few...
my ($aero,$alt,$agl,$lat,$lon,$track,$bug,$nav);
fgfs_get_aero(\$aero); # I like to setup little subs
fgfs_get($get_Altitude,\$alt) or get_exit(-2); # but direct is ok
fgfs_get($get_Altitude_AGL,\$agl) or get_exit(-2);
fgfs_get($get_Latitude_deg,\$lat) or get_exit(-2);
fgfs_get($get_Longitude_deg,\$lon) or
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt - ATI Radeo HD 7770 XT - Win 7 64-bit
Hi Fred, and re-compiled. Just to see what value it was when I iconized... and ? As I said a little further down the email - I still get the black on iconizing, but never see my above debug output... resizing does NOT seem to pass through here??? So obviously do not know the value when iconized ;=(( Would need some 'other' place to put in debug code... Concerning the lime green on the terrain, I checked my simgear\scene\tgdb\obj.cxx and it certainly has that particular patch at line 1174... so obviously that did not fix it in all cases... And Gijs, thanks for the explanations on 'Model View' ;=)) I seldom do that many 'v' inputs to get there, and I guess I had accidentally done one too many shift-'V' and landed in this unfamiliar territory (for me)... And as for 'Shadows', 'Bloom', etc being enabled by default, well at first there seemed something very 'strange' here! I renamed my autosave.xml and started fgfs with the --prop:/sim/rendering/rembrandt/enabled=true but NO 'Shadows' despite that it was checked in the dialog... ARGH, I had 'forgotten' a that shaders are enabled by default... And to my run-rem.bat now also added - --prop:/sim/rendering/shaders/quality-level-internal=0 and I have shadows, even if I DELETE autosave.xml. Oh, and if you like seeing the fps display, then add - --prop:/sim/rendering/fps-display=true It is another defaults-to-off item ;=)) Anyway, just reporting what I see, but I am sure other users must get VERY confused by such strange - it works, then it does not work - behavior... but I suppose when it is all documented the sun will shine, and shadows cast... Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt - ATI Radeo HD 7770 XT - Win 7 64-bit
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 17:48 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: And none of this explains why Rembrandt CRASHES the Radeon HD 7770 - it stops working, and goes into auto-recovery - in my Windows 7 64-bit box. Without Rembrandt the fps there is 60... I bought myself a HD7750. The only issue I have under win7 64bit is that the fgfs window goes black if I minimize it. First investigation is that OSG open another context and reallocate all the resources already opened for the displayed window and exhaust memory, switching to pbuffers that are not supported by Rembrandt. No machine freeze or crash here. I found a way to avoid the black window. So I can tell that Rembrandt works perfectly on a HD7750 windowed or fullscreen at 1600x1200. With vegetation set to 2.0 and random buildings at 1.0, I get 20 fps on the c172p. System crash should be a local hardware problem. Regards, -Fred Hi Fred, Tried to updated Catalyst to 12.4, which included a new driver. It all appeared to 'install' without error, but stayed at 12.1 shown. Did it twice... including rebooting which is does not ask for... Anyway did a git update and rebuild of sg/fg... So far no 'crash', but also NO shadows, nor do I have the small corner images... I started in a windows, but also tried full screen - 1920 x 1080. No shadows and as usual, at a low viewing angles, continue to get lime green flash overlaying the terrain at just certain angles, in both modes... images: window : http://geoffair.org/tmp/rembrandt-green.png 800x600 FS : http://geoffair.org/tmp/rembrandt-green2.png 1916x1014 And like you mentioned, when I iconized the windows, I started to get thousands of console outputs like - Warning: detected OpenGL error 'invalid value' at after RenderBin::draw(..) Warning: detected OpenGL error 'invalid operation' at after RenderBin::draw(..) repeated over and over, and on restore to a window, it was all black... and could do nothing to recover it... This was from a sg/fg/fgdata git update about 15:00 Hours, Paris time today... so maybe you have not had a chance to put your icon fixes to git yet... And am not sure if it was the driver update, or just the git update/rebuild, but at least no 'crash' so far... so feel one tiny step forward ;=)) Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt - ATI Radeo HD 7770 XT - Win 7 64-bit
Hi Fred,
Just saw your
commit 608520d932bbe81a5916d50dadeef364e1d82140
of yesterday concerning iconizing so decide to do
some more tests...
The good news ;=)) Suddenly I have shadows ;=)))
What changed?
Well since I still get a black screen after iconizing,
I dropped in some debug output in
src/Viewer/CameraGroup.cxx, around line 220, code like -
static double last_w = -1.0;
static double last_h = -1.0;
void CameraInfo::resize(double w, double h)
{
if ((last_w != w)(last_h != h)) {
printf(Resize from %f,%f to %f,%f\n,
last_w, last_h,
w, h );
last_w = w;
last_h = h;
}
if (w -- 1.0 h == 1.0)
return;
etc
and re-compiled. Just to see what value it was when
I iconized...
I always add -
--prop:/sim/rendering/rembrandt/enabled=true
to the command line, but this time I decided to also try
the new view - rendering options - Rembrandt Options
and noted [ ] Shadows was NOT checked. How come?
So I checked it and ALL the shadows appeared...
No more little squares in the corner, but the lower
left now has
[][] [GA007]
Of course the GA007 is my call sign, but what are
the greater than and less than signs?
NOW, every time I start fgfs only with the above
--prop command the shadows are there, and [x]
Shadows is checked...
I hope someone can explain this??? Is this something
saved in .fgfs or somewhere???
BUT NOW I HAVE SHADOWS ;=))
I still get the black on iconizing, but never see
my above debug output... resizing does NOT seem to
pass through here???
Still get the lime green haze at certain angles -
http://geoffair.org/tmp/rembrandt-green3.png
http://geoffair.org/tmp/rembrandt-green4.png
BUT PERFECT SHADOWS GALORE ;=))
http://geoffair.org/tmp/rembrandt-shadows.png
As stated I hope someone can explain what just
happened. I know it is nothing to do with a
mistake in the --prop command since that is
done in a batch file unchanged since 2012/06/08,
run-rem.bat...
Must be off for tonight, but happy I TOO have
shadows ;= My ATI HD 7770 Win 7 can be added
to the 'success' list...
Regards,
Geoff.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] New tracker server
On Sun, 2012-06-17 at 15:00 +0800, IE wrote: Hi all, This is my first time sending an email to the devel list and hope I am doing things right :) The current tracker server (194.126.xxx.yyy) is not serviceable because of unknown reason. A new tracker server is set up and ready to accept data from mpserverXX. May the owner of mpserverXX who wish to let their flights be tracked by http://fgtracker.ahven.eu contact me by email or IRC (nick Hazuki) for new tracker setting. Thanks in advance, Hazuki Amamiya Hi Amamiya, nick or IE, First what should we call you? ;=)) We have only just started up mpserver14.flightgear.org, and wonder about the advantages/disadvantage of directly connecting to a 'tracking' server. Besides, since we relay local pilots to mpserver01, which says it is 'tracked' would not any of our local pilots also end up in the tracker? Or maybe it does not work this way! And you say a new tracking server has been setup, but when I go to :- http://fgtracker.ahven.eu/flightgear/modules/fgtracker/ it says (in red) - This tracker site is inactive until further notice. So am a little confused. Where can the 'new' server be viewed? What pilot stats will be shown, etc? Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt - ATI Radeo HD 2600 XT - Ubuntu 10.04
Hi Fred, Glad to hear the HD 7750 works fine in Win 7 64-bits... it seems very similar to the HD 7770 so no idea why I have such a bad 'crash' with Rembrandt ;=() Maybe later driver updates, or even as Rembrandt matures... I can only hope ;=)) will keep trying now and again, but the completely black screen for several seconds is quite frightening... Hi Björn, Try this - http://apcmag.com/vista_sp1_wont_install_on_dualboot_systems_microsoft.htm And just search 'vista sp1 and grub' for MANY others ;=(( And with no SP1 many other vista updates also FAIL! And a suggested solution NOT tried - https://blogs.oracle.com/pomah/entry/installing_windows_vista_service_pack and have read others in similar vane - remove grub, do update, restore grub (if you are lucky!). I am certainly GLAD to hear you had no similar problem with Windows 7 ;=)) After the above Vista fiasco I am sure MS would want to avoid that happening again - we hope!!! Hi Michael, Yes, a save, and removal of 10.04, get Vista back into shape, and re-install 12.04 LTS is certainly another option... ;=)) But my $HOME directory is a whopping 80-100 GB! But I think I remember moving that to another logical drive so maybe it would not get wiped in a reformat of the 'system' drive... need to check... But as stated, that is for July anyway... when I feel 12.04 LTS is 'solid' ;=)) Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt - ATI Radeo HD 2600 XT - Ubuntu 10.04
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 18:25 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi Geoff, Glad to hear the HD 7750 works fine in Win 7 64-bits... it seems very similar to the HD 7770 so no idea why I have such a bad 'crash' with Rembrandt ;=() Maybe later driver updates, or even as Rembrandt matures... I can only hope ;=)) will keep trying now and again, but the completely black screen for several seconds is quite frightening... Do you start FG windowed or full screen ? -Fred Hi Fred, Windowed only. Do not think I have tried full screen (at 1920x1080 in that machine), but will try that next time... Will also try iconising to see if I get the same as you... My 'crash' came up to a minute after starting fgfs... had just started the engine, and used the v key to look around... and 'poof'... The driver is from Catalyst 12.1 (2012.0117.53.1290). The last update was 20 Feb 2012. Driver Packaging version 8.932.5-120116a-131942C-ATI. Do you use Catalyst? Hmmm, an update check now shows there is a 12.4 now available. Will probably download that tomorrow and try again... Would really love to see your beautiful 'shadows' ;=)) Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt - ATI Radeo HD 2600 XT - Ubuntu 10.04
RE: Upgrade : Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS from : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades It is generally recommended that users of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS wait until the first point release, due in July, before upgrading. I think I prefer to 'wait-the-time' ;=)) not long now... And I still think it is GRUB that is blocking 'some' of my Vista updates, particularly a SP... at the time I read on several MS sites, and other places, that Vista gets bent out of shape when it detects a 'foreigner' in the first disk sector (MBR) ;=() It seems the only way around it would be to remove GRUB and restore the Vista footprint... read lots of 'help' on doing this, but always had the fear of not being able to 'restore' the GRUB duel boot after the Vista upgrades were done... so never got around to trying... Maybe will address this again after the 12.04 upgrade ;=)) Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rembrandt - ATI Radeo HD 2600 XT - Ubuntu 10.04
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 16:21 +0200, Björn Kesten wrote: Since ATI driver support doesn't even qualify as bloody awful, you're better off running FG in Windows - at least until you get a newer card or the open source driver gets a huuuge performance boost. (With an X1300 , I get nearly twice the FPS in Win 7 compared to Linux) B. Hi Björn, Yes, this box started out with just Windows Vista 32-bit, and the HD 2600 XT advertises 'good' DirectX 10 support, which is maybe why Dell chose it... So maybe this is a good time to go back to Windows ;=)) to at least see what happens there... but one problem there is that the GRUB dual boot has 'block' the Vista updates for a long time now... In Ubuntu my fps is only in the 30-40 range... and have been thinking about getting another card... One of my earlier questions was - Is there a list of cards that work well with Rembrandt? Assume your X1300 is one of them? And none of this explains why Rembrandt CRASHES the Radeon HD 7770 - it stops working, and goes into auto-recovery - in my Windows 7 64-bit box. Without Rembrandt the fps there is 60... Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] The next FlightGear release (summer 2012)
Hi, FWIIW I would opt for version 2.8 Concerning Rembrandt, it does not work on either of my 2 ATI cards - Radeon HD 2600 XT, running Ubuntu 64-bit, and Windows Vista 32-bit, and a Radeon HD 7700 series, in Windows 7 64-bit. I think I have tried all the options mentioned here... On the 2600 I usually see the corner buffer images, but no shadows. On the 7700 even no corner images, and after a certain time the card driver FAILS! I get a black screen, but thankfully it auto-recovers ;=() Oh, and I get about a 50%+ drop in frame rate... and at low viewing angles get flashing lime green over the foreground... So yes, for sure mention Rembrandt, but clearly mark it as in development ;=)) Is there a list anywhere of cards/drivers it DOES work on? If not too expensive maybe I would buy and try one ;=)) I seem to remember someone mentioning such a listing... On converting a/c, as I think someone mentioned why or how can this be done if the results can not be seen on his system! Sort of chicken and egg story... And for the 2.8 release, assume the MULTIPLE warnings will be 'removed', or suppressed, namely - Failed to create beacon for unknown runway 'KONT 26L OM' and about 28 more like this... Image C:/FG/fgdata/Textures/Water/waves-ver10-nm.dds uses compressed textures which cannot be supported on some systems. Please decompress this texture for improved portability. and about 6 more like this... We should not need to air this dirty washing on a release product ;=))! Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] mpmap
On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 01:31 +0100, Peter Morgan wrote: I think maybe we need to also invite the fgms team into this discussion The only way really to get a position sat on webserver atmo is to poll a fgms telnet server.. upon its admin port.. eg telnet telnet mpserver01.flightgear.org 5001 return lines.. which are then parsed into various formats.. so we need to cover this scenario across anyones installation.. to make it usable.. another thought.. pete Hi Pete, We have discussed this off list, but to repeat some of my ideas, which of course can be 'corrected' by others... 1. I do not think it is good to bash one or each public FG server on their telnet 'admin' port every few seconds, to get current online pilot information... The present fgms code drives a new process (originally a fork(), but now a pthread in later code if configured) into existence to reply to each 'telnet' query... quite a load... 2. I agree and LIKE the idea of a NEW world 'map' of all FG pilots online... that would be GREAT, in addition to the existing 'pigeons code' ;=)) As suggested off list, my idea to achieve this is to host a NEW fgms server... and get all other current FG mp servers to relay packets to it... And that means applying to Curt to get a DNS record - mpserver[NN].flightgear.org... Now this new server would be - (a) serving the FG community, and (b) you can either 'bash' its telnet port, it is your server to treat as you like ;=)) or (c) as provided in the fgms code, connect another server to it to provide data in any form required. The fgms code already has a 'crossfeed' config parameter, so can feed every packet received to that connected 'crossfeed'... with the header set to RELAY_MAGIC... even before 'Blacklisted' or 'Invalid' packet rejection... That 'crossfeed' data can then be accessed ANY way you desire, and produce pilot information in ANY form needed... on a private or public ports... without impacting the FG community mp servers... As I have stated I would assist to develop this 'crossfeed', which in essence is just another fgms server, given some desired specifications... And that could perhaps include providing say a pilot's historical 'track', and perhaps even some 'predicted' track... to show on the 'map'... But the FIRST step is housing and setting up a new mp server, and getting all others to relay to it... But as usual, this is just my 10 cents ;=)) Maybe everyone is happy with telnet 5001 server 'bashing' as the source of the 'map' data... Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] XML parser error
On Sun, 2012-05-06 at 10:39 +0200, ThorstenB wrote: Am 05.05.2012 21:10, schrieb ThorstenB: What do we do? Ask maintainers to fix each XML file? Run a script to fix these issues on fgdata? Suggestions? After discussing with Helijah, the issue is now fixed for all files in fgdata. A few files belonging to other maintainers were also involved and corrected - since there isn't really a valid reason leave any files in an unreadable state. cheers, Thorsten Hi Thorsten, Thanks for summarily fixing the xml encoding declaration to ISO-8859-1 on a number of xml files ;=)) Now no XML parsing errors so far... Just for curiosity, delved a little further, prior to your changes, well git of 2012/03/30, and found some 21,000 files ending '.xml' in fgdata, some 8 million lines, 237 MB! The largest is AAL.xml 20 MB, 600 K lines, 2 blank files, 1 with a UTF-8 BOM, 36 with ISO-8859-1 encoding declaration, 7733 with UTF-8, 1 with Windows-1250, 12328 with no encoding, and 900 with NO ?xml declaration at all! After your commit of what, some 300+, xml file changes, and of others since 30/03, now 21,229 xml files, 234 MB, there is no BOM, 336 with ISO-8859-1, 7635 with UTF-8, 1 Windows-1250, 12353 with NO encoding, and 902 with NO ?xml declaration... Now back to FLYING ;=)) Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] XML parser error
Hi, On a SG/FG git pull of a few hours ago note some new XML error messages - Failed to load xml: not well formed (invalid token) at C:/fg/15/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Modules/Immat/imatt.xml line 65, column 31 Failed to load submodel: not well formed (invalid token) at C:/fg/15/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Modules/Immat/imatt.xml line 65, column 31 from: SimGear XML Parser Also noted that the last update included some xml parser updates, but not sure if this is related... Looking at imatt.xml, this line 65 is inside a comment !-- and around column 31 is a French char, e acute (0xe8) but unsure why the parser should be bothered by such a hi-bit char in a comment field... Also my joystick was not 'found', again maybe because of a 'silent' xml problem... but maybe a separate problem which I am still researching... Hope this helps... Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: XML parser error]
Forwarded Message From: Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info To: flightgear-devel flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: XML parser error Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 19:35:29 +0200 Hi, On a SG/FG git pull of a few hours ago note some new XML error messages - Failed to load xml: not well formed (invalid token) at C:/fg/15/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Modules/Immat/imatt.xml line 65, column 31 Failed to load submodel: not well formed (invalid token) at C:/fg/15/fgdata/Aircraft/c172p/Modules/Immat/imatt.xml line 65, column 31 from: SimGear XML Parser Also noted that the last update included some xml parser updates, but not sure if this is related... Looking at imatt.xml, this line 65 is inside a comment !-- and around column 31 is a French char, e acute (0xe8) but unsure why the parser should be bothered by such a hi-bit char in a comment field... Also my joystick was not 'found', again maybe because of a 'silent' xml problem... but maybe a separate problem which I am still researching... Hope this helps... Regards, Geoff. Ok, removing the e acute from that line and also on the next and no XML error shown... And my joystick problem was my own stupidity ;=)) It was not plugged in - how embarrassing... Regards, Geoff. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Random buildings improvements - phase 2
I agree that for this question, a standardized benchmark would be useful. Hi, Not exactly 'standardized' but certainly agree the some comparative information is important, not only which video/resolution/OS/... These were all run as default, noon, full screen, 1440x900, c172p, motor idling, KSFO 10L, for about 5 minutes each... the last is SG/FG git about 17:00 hours UTC today... Various versions currently available - in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - all compiled from git source... fg3 2008-09-01 - 46 fps fg4 2009-03-26 - 46 fps fg5 2009-04-18 - 47 fps - highest fg6 2009-06-26 - 46 fps no 2010 not archived, until... fg14 2011-04-26 - 43 fps fg15 2011-06-03 - 40 fps fg16 2011-11-01 - 40 fps fg17 2011-10-30 - 32 fps fg18 2011-11-15 - 27 fps fg19 2012-01-16 - 22 fps - lowest fg20 2012-05-01 - 32 fps fg20 2012-05-04 - 32 fps This is of course without rembrandt, and not specifically enabling/disabling ANYTHING, although perhaps internal default were changed... Of course I hope we can someday return to the fps I got for most of 2009 ;=)) but do understand new 'features', subsystems, etc - in short improvements in the 'real' experience - can cost fps, perhaps never to be recovered... HTH. Regards, Geoff. PS: Can someone remind me the --prop:/sim/??? to set from the command line to show frame rate - to avoid the need to View - Display Options to click it into existence - tks. Of course I would prefer it be enabled by default ;=)) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGbuild for MS Windows
On Tue, 2012-04-10 at 17:22 +0200, Gijs de Rooy wrote: http://wiki.flightgear.org/Building_using_CMake_-_Windows in combination with https://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear/blobs/next/docs-mini/README.MSVC did it for me. Together with some help on IRC ;-) I'll see if I can improve the wiki a bit more. Gijs Hi Gijs, First many thanks for a great wiki on building FG with CMake in Windows using MSVC10 ;=)) But I notice the link pointed to by the '3rdparty' folder is to a specific file which has now been removed from the site, namely :- fgfs-win32-VS100-3rdParty+OSG-20120304.zip Maybe the link could just be - ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/MSVC/ I think I could make this edit change if you like, but do not want to mess up any other plans you may have. Also on the FTP site I note the file names STILL have +OSG in them, but they now do not contain OSG headers/libs/dlls ;=() The previous 20120304 contained install\msvc90\OpenSceneGraph... stuff. Yes, I know the msvc100/OpenSceneGraph stuff can be all found in the 'archive.zip' pointed to by the 'OpenSceneGraph' link, but the one thing about that 'archive.zip' is that the folder name 'archive/' is prepended before 'install/'. That of course is no particular problem, but it does mean some 'manual' folder manipulation after you unzip it ;=)) Anyway, thanks again... Regards, Geoff. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGbuild for MS Windows
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 12:53 +, castle...@comcast.net wrote: Complains about not finding a plugin to read objects from file c:/fg-2.7.0/fgdata/xx from the gitgo. Hi John, Well it seems some good news and some bad news ;=)) Missing plugin... yes this is quite common, unfortunately ;=(( Suggests some problems with the OSG used, or something... But you give NO INFORMATION on exactly what you built!!! Exactly WHAT 3rdparty stuff you used? Versus what did you build from source? I built Release SG/FG yesterday, git 15th like you, in a root c:\FG\14, using :- \3rdparty - fgfs-win32-VS100-3rdParty+OSG-20120411.zip \install\msvc100\OpenSceneGraph - archive.zip, after removing the initial 'archive/' folder... And (mostly) following the Fred/Gijs cmake wiki... Built and installed Release SG in \install\msvc100\SimGear so pointed to that when building FG... Built c:\FG\14\build-fg\src\Main\Release\fgfs.exe After adding the path - c:\FG\14\install\msvc100\OpenSceneGraph\bin to my PATH environment variable, this ran well in normal mode, no problems, but no rembrandt shadows on a trial of that... but that can wait... all else worked well in the few simple flights done... So what 3rdparty stuff did you use? What was your command line? What exactly was the console output? Then we MAY be able to help more... Regards, Geoff. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGbuild for MS Windows
Hi John, zconf.h is taken care off, Ok, that is good, but could you please shared what you did. I think you mentioned finding something about editing zconf.h... Found what, where... what edits did you do? This is to just HELP the NEXT person that stumbles over this... And may even get one of the 'maintainer' to put a more permanent 'fix' online so there is no next time ;=)) pui vs. pu In MY 3rdparty\lib directory they are - pu.lib and pu_d.lib, and puaux.lib and puaux_d.lib for Release and Debug respectively... In unix/linux they are libplibpu.a and libplibpuaux.a... But I guess pui.lib is also possible... puaux vs.puAux, is that significant? I hope you know normally the windows system does NOT care about CaSe ;=)) so these are the same... there is no pu.lib or puaux.lib. Rubbish! But as you sort of point out, that could be pui.lib and puiaux.lib in your environment... If msvc can not find a library then it will say that! It didn't, so it found somethings, but it just missing a function link - puaList()... And when it misses one library function like this it will usually report a LONG list of 'missing'... As to finding it/them have you tried in - 3rdparty\lib dir pu*.lib /s If not, even dir c:\pu*.lib /s ;=)) will take a little longer, but will get you there... unless it is on another logical drive... wasn't able to track down the log file, where would you find it... Again, in the 'build' directory you have chosen in CMake do - dir *.log /s should get you there... In my case, my build directory is - C:\FG\10\flightgear\build and it is found in - ...build\src\Main\fgfs.dir\Debug and ...build\src\Main\fgfs.dir\Release You need to find it so you can CHECK exactly what plib libraries msvc link.exe is using when building fgfs.exe... Also, as a suggestion, I would not bother yet about building the Debug configuration, and concentrate on building the Release configuration... Now when you get the pu*.lib story straight, you can manually modify CMakeCache.txt before loading the CMAke GUI, or fix them directly in the GUI... [configure] then [generate], then back into msvc... HTH. Regards, Geoff. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGbuild for MS Windows
Hi John, 1: unistd.h Yes I ran across the missing 'unistd.h' in zconf.h recently, but I thought my problem was in FG, but maybe also SG... The FIX is simple I think... somewhere there is a 'config.h' - one I know about is in FG\util\fgadmin\src - which has - #define HAVE_UNISTD_H 1 This causes zconf.h to look for 'unistd.h' Find that file, and change that line to #undef HAVE_UNISTD_H There are several other things defined in that file which are also 'wrong' but do not cause any problems since they are not used... Should not be necessary to modify zconf.h, but that is another way around this problem ;=)) 2: puaList = missing PLIB - puAux.lib In the CMake GUI scroll down, down and check the PLIB library libraries found... PLIB_PUAUX_LIBRARY - should be blank PLIB_PUAUX_LIBRARY_DEBUG - should be like c:\fgbuild\dependencies\3rdparty\lib\puauxd.lib PLIB_PUAUX_LIBRARY_RELEASE - should be like c:\fgbuild\dependencies\3rdparty\lib\puaux.lib PLIB_PUI_LIBRARY - should be blank PLIB_PUI_LIBRARY_DEBUG - should be like c:\fgbuild\dependencies\3rdparty\lib\pud.lib PLIB_PUI_LIBRARY_RELEASE - should be like c:\fgbuild\dependencies\3rdparty\lib\pu.lib And each of the other PLIB items should point to each of the other plib libraries... You can also open and check the file fgfs.log written by MSVC10 and check exactly WHAT libraries are presently being linked to fgfs.exe... find the bin\link.exe line... it is a BIG list... If not this, then not sure... Aside from the above ???.log files, another file you can post somewhere is the CMakeCache..txt... it gives LOTS of information, and with a view of its contents we may be able to help you better... Regards, Geoff. -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGbuild for MS Windows
Hi Rob,
Thanks for your input, but some of what you
said confused me ;=((
In this fgfs first-for-me with MSVC10 Pro (same
v10.0.40219.1 SP1Rel as you mentioned) I thought
I should stick to a 32-bits build for a start,
even though I am in a 64-bit OS, and have a 64-bit
CPU, etc...
When I get that done, and running, I would then
try for a 64-bit build...
So when I load the current built by the CMake GUI,
FlightGear.sln, the Configuration Manager ONLY shows
the Win32 platform!
And thus ALL the dependencies I have built, which
is MOST of them, including OSGtrunk, are also only
the Win32 versions, at this time...
I note in FG source CMakeLists.txt there is an item -
if (CMAKE_CL_64)
SET(TEST_3RDPARTY_DIR ${PARENT_DIR}/3rdparty.x64)
else (CMAKE_CL_64)
SET(TEST_3RDPARTY_DIR ${PARENT_DIR}/3rdparty)
endif (CMAKE_CL_64)
Thus at present I am using '3rdparty', and have no
3rdparty.x64 YET...
In the FG source, reading the README.cmake seems to
give most of what is in the wiki I mentioned... and
on reading the docs-mini\README.MSVC seems to not add
much more... and noted some parts of it also a little
dated...
But EVERY bit of documentation HELPS! So thanks to
those who added/maintain these...
The file: http://geoffair.org/tmp/ftp-MSVC-list.txt
shows the files I have downloaded and reviewed
for what I MIGHT need, from
ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/MSVC
but at present using NONE of these...
And it seems you can also get binary files and
headers also from Jenkins at say :-
http://flightgear.simpits.org:8080/view/Win/
so plenty of pre-built binary/header stuff is
available ;=))
But as stated I am trying to build all from
source... just for the FUN!
I guess when I advance to 64-bits, I would just
open a MSVC10 64-bit command prompt, and run CMake
in there... it should then find a 64-bit compiler,
linker, tools, etc.and thus set CMAKE_CL_64...
Might try that as a separate quick exercise ;=))
But NO, in a new directory, after cloning SG and
FG, then unzipping BOTH :-
fgfs-win32-VS100-3rdparty+OSG-20120304.zip, and
fgfs-x64-VS100-3rdparty+OSG-20120304.zip, overwriting,
I did manage to get a manual cmake to build a
buildsg\simgear.sln file...
And it compiled in MSVC10 - with 46 succeeded ;=))
0 failed...
BUT IT IS STILL ONLY HAS 'Win32' PLATFORM!!!
That is all in a 64-bit MSVC command prompt, where
running say 'cl /HELP' will show Version 16.00.40219.01
for x64, but it seems CMake did NOT set CMAKE_CL_64???
And in adding a 'message' to CMakeLists.txt, like
message(STATUS TEST_3RDPARTY_DIR = ${TEST_3RDPARTY_DIR})
shows that it had selected just '3rdparty'!!!
Not sure how to ask cmake to output a Win64 platform
solution file... so this not really any further forward
in this direction... so will return to my own Win32
building for now...
It seems, from your comments, that you ARE building
and running a 64-bit version? Is that correct?
If that is the case then I will be back when I
progress that far ;=))
If otherwise, then quite confused... please explain
a little more... on or off list...
Regards,
Geoff.
On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 20:08 -0400, Rob Dosogne wrote:
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 15:13, Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info wrote:
This new attempt is in a new Windows 7 64-bits machine,
using MSVC10... a fresh start for me...
I have this setup working on my machine; I'm building OSG-trunk
myself, and using the 3rd-party libs from the build server.
But fgfs.exe 'crashes' after quite a few seconds,
maybe a minutes of loading ;=(( showing
'loading scenery' on the flash screen, and the
last console output is -
Initializing Nasal Electrical System
then POOF...
I had the same sort of problems when using the latest 3rd-party libs
from the ftp site in the MSVC readme (the MSVC9 ones worked perfectly
for me). After replacing them with the build server's, everything
compiled ran neatly.
I don't know if you can download them from the Win64 workspace on
Jenkins anymore, but that's where I got them--if you would like a copy
of my 3rdParty.x64 (or the OSG-trunk build), email me directly or /msg
me on irc: truthsolo
(built with MSVC 2010 v10.0.40219.1 SP1Rel)
cheers,
Rob
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGbuild for MS Windows
Hi Rob, Concerning the setting of CMAKE_CL_64 just found this - http://www.cmake.org/Bug/view.php?id=10509 for CMake version 2.8.1 Seems in that case removing 'CXX'??? and it worked... so it seems no CMake 'fix' was applied... I am using 2.8.7, but MAYBE we also defined CXX somewhere, what ever that exactly means, and this has still NOT been 'fixed'??? Will try to investigate more... Regards, Geoff. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Recent GIT version fails to compile (fgadmin_funcs)
Hi Björn, In unix, usually 'mkdir' and 'unlink' are found in the very ubiquitous unix header - #include unistd.h Maybe this was previously being included through the many FLTK, and other headers included... but was removed from one of them in some later versions, so this could be the 'change', and NOT in the FG code, as Thorsten suggested... Since 'unlink' and 'mkdir' are DIRECTLY used in the file fgadmin_funcs.cxx, it would be quite correct to include it there and NOT depend on other headers pulling it in... Perhaps like :- #ifdef _WIN32 # include direct.h #else // !_WIN32 #include unistd.h #endif Note it should be included OUTSIDE the Windows code, since this header is NOT 'standard' in Windows building ;=((. HTH. Regards, Geoff. On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 13:02 +0200, ThorstenB wrote: On 06.04.2012 19:07, Björn Kesten wrote: I hope this is the right place for GIT version related things. Certainly is ;-). utils/fgadmin/src/CMakeFiles/fgadmin.dir/fgadmin_funcs.cxx.o /home/bjoern/fg_git/sources/flightgear/utils/fgadmin/src/fgadmin_funcs.cxx: In function ‘void remove_dir(const char*, void (*)(void*, int), void*, bool)’: /home/bjoern/fg_git/sources/flightgear/utils/fgadmin/src/fgadmin_funcs.cxx:363:39: error: ‘unlink’ was not declared in this scope Jenkins always builds the latest Git sources - and everything is fine there. Also, I cannot see anything that has changed about fgadmin in recent weeks, neither any change of the few includes it is using. So, it's weird if things suddenly changed for you. Seems like some change on your system... Furthermore, rmdir and unlink are standard POSIX functions and should be available in the global scope. Which compiler/version are you using? Have you upgraded recently? cheers, Thorsten -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Recent GIT version fails to compile (fgadmin_funcs)
Hi Björn, Thorsten, Following on from my previous, perhaps the full patch should be - #ifdef _WIN32 # include direct.h # include io.h #define unlink _unlink #define mkdir _mkdir #else // !_WIN32 #include unistd.h #endif To make windows happy ;=)) and avoid some warnings... Regards, Geoff. -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGbuild for MS Windows
Hi John W., You do not say WHICH wiki write-up(s) you are having problems with, nor exactly what the problems are... so can not really help much... For my part, after re-RE-reading carefully through :- http://wiki.flightgear.org/Building_FlightGear_-_Windows I started meticulously and methodically working through :- http://wiki.flightgear.org/Building_using_CMake_-_Windows If there are other, newer write ups, I too would like to know about them... And that is aside from the 100 odd pages, now getting 'old'!, I have already written on this * BUILDING FG * topic - see - http://geoffair.org/fg This new attempt is in a new Windows 7 64-bits machine, using MSVC10... a fresh start for me... To add to my pain ;=)) I also wanted, where possible, do build each of the dependent libraries for myself, so it took some time to get ALL that/those in place... I presently have a c:\FG\10\3rdparty folder with some 1,500+ files, 370+ MB of data... Yesterday, eventually got a fgfs.exe linked, together with some 10 other 'utilities', yasim.exe, fgjs.exe, js_demo.exe, etc to terrasync.exe... But fgfs.exe 'crashes' after quite a few seconds, maybe a minutes of loading ;=(( showing 'loading scenery' on the flash screen, and the last console output is - Initializing Nasal Electrical System then POOF... Using --log-level=debug here is the full text of that redirection - http://geoffair.org/tmp/templog.txt It is about 23+ MB... including some 280,000 Adding flight: ;=)) The last content in there is - Playing audio after 0 sec: rumble Playing looped so naturally will first check and recheck the OpenAL stuff... or something/everything else... And that is just the 'Release' config, so must now try for the 'Debug' config build and run to see if I can trace through and find the problem... slow, hard work ;=() but LOTS OF FUN! If you tell more exactly, either on this list, or direct off list, maybe can help more with SPECIFIC things... Regards, Geoff. On Sat, 2012-04-07 at 16:22 +, castle...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, Can someone point out a good, current tutorial or forum/chat room for building FG under MS windows. Havng problems with the wiki write-up and can't determine if it is operator error or problems with the instructions or just suffering from a case of newbeitis as I've never worked with Cmake or the MS windows build environment and associated libraries and dependencies. Working with Gene Buckle to see if we can get a version of FlightGear that will support his collimated mirror system. Have versions of FG-2.0 through 2.6 and a warp mesh building tool that runs under Linux but MS is a new beast for me. Cheers John W -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG_SERVER::Loop() - Bytes = 0!
Hi Roland,
Maybe Oliver can add more... but -
1: I am working with the version in my own clone of
master, geoffmcls-fgms-0-x, but it is the SAME in
that code area.
In a recent test setup I too was 'flooded' with
this particular message. That turned out to be
due to port 5000 udp in/out, and/or port 5001 tcp
in/out had NOT been enabled on that machine...
Maybe Yves could explain what he needed to do
to change that...
And even after the change still get some of these
message from a telnet queries...
So that is one thing to look at...
2: The only recent (September 27 2011) change to that
code was -
-if (! Bytes)
+if ( Bytes = 0 )
{
SG_ALERT (SG_SYSTEMS, SG_ALERT,
FG_SERVER::Loop() - Bytes = 0!);
continue;
That is changing the if test from just !Bytes, which is
Bytes == 0, to Bytes = 0, to reflect what the SG_ALERT
states.
Maybe if you change that back to if (! Bytes) you would get
'less', or no SG_ALERT messages to the log, but that does
not deal with the reason for the 'select' -
Bytes = m_DataSocket-select (ListenSockets,0,m_PlayerExpires);
returning -1, an ERROR.
And if you added strerror(errno) to the SG_ALERT, like say -
SG_ALERT (SG_SYSTEMS, SG_ALERT,
FG_SERVER::Loop() - Bytes = 0!
Bytes errno errno msg
strerror(errno) );
you would be able to also see the specific error returned
by select(), and maybe deal with it...
HTH,
Regards,
Geoff.
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 21:55 +0100, Roland Häder wrote:
Hi,
I get this message flooded into fgms.log file with latest master. Can you
please take a look?
Regards,
Roland
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cmake equivalent to --with-osg=/some/path
On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 11:35 +, Jon Stockill wrote: I'm currently updating some jenkins build scripts for cmake rather than autoconf, and I'm having problems getting the build to link against local copies of all the dependencies. Is there a simple way of specifying where to look for these rather than having to specify the path to each individual library file (which from the cmake output seems like it might be the only way). Hi Jon, A HOT extract from my current 1.3.8 'makefg' script ;=)) Not yet published as still testing some options like - FGCM_OPTS=$FGCM_OPTS -D JPEG_FACTORY:BOOL=ON But for the dependencies OSG, SG, and the recently added PLIB when only installed 'locally'... ADDPLIBDIRS=0 # If PLIB is installed locally, then ADDPLIBDIRS=1 FGCM_OPTS=$FGCM_OPTS -D CMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=TRUE if [ $ADDPLIBDIRS = 1 ]; then FGCM_OPTS=$FGCM_OPTS -D PLIB_LIBRARIES=$INSTALL_DIR_PLIB/lib FGCM_OPTS=$FGCM_OPTS -D PLIB_INCLUDE_DIR= $INSTALL_DIR_PLIB/include fi FGCM_OPTS=$FGCM_OPTS -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$INSTALL_DIR_FGFS For SG installed locally I use an export... like makefg: Done 'export SIMGEAR_DIR=/media/Disk2/FG/fg20/install/simgear' For OSG installed locally I use an export... like makefg: Done 'export OSG_DIR=/media/Disk2/FG/fg20/install/OSGtrunk' then... echo2 $BN: Will do 'cmake $FGCM_OPTS $FGFS_SOURCE_PATH' cmake $FGCM_OPTS $FGFS_SOURCE_PATH The actual cmake command is quite simple - makefg: Will do 'cmake -D CMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=TRUE \ -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/media/Disk2/FG/fg20/install/flightgear \ /media/Disk2/FG/fg20/flightgear' I had tried setting SG LIBRARIES and INCLUDE, like PLIB, but this did not work for me - if [ $ADDSGDIRS = 1 ]; then FGCM_OPTS=$FGCM_OPTS -D SIMGEAR_LIBRARIES= $INSTALL_DIR_SIMGEAR/lib FGCM_OPTS=$FGCM_OPTS -D SIMGEAR_INCLUDE_DIR= $INSTALL_DIR_SIMGEAR/include fi Not sure why this fails... maybe it should be like - SIMGEAR_LIBRARIES:PATH=$INSTALL_DIR_SIMGEAR/lib or something... And also had some success with - FGCM_OPTS=$FGCM_OPTS -D CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=$INSTALL_DIR_SIMGEAR but seemed unnecessary once I do the SIMGEAR_DIR 'export'... And more or less the same for terragear-cs except no need for OSG stuff... HTH, but maybe other with more cmake savvy can do better ;=)) Regards, Geoff. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] PostGIS update @ Landcover-DB
Hi Adrian, Thanks for your reply... About the input fields obscuring the map, they may be changed easily into type=hidden, I only left them as text for debugging and testing. The download button is pretty unobtrusive by itself. No, I do NOT think they should be hidden! After the user has used the mouse selection, [s]he may choose to modify the fields, say rounding them, etc, which would be difficult, impossible with the mouse, so I think they should stay... even enhanced with labels to say what they are... So why not use the right side of the table for this? They could be set vertically, with labels, to keep the right side narrow, if that is a concern... It would seem unnecessary, and CONFUSING, to have TWO visible [download buttons], one _ON_ the map and one to the right, no? And I think we should accept mouse clicks in ANY order, or place, and adjust left - right, top - bottom to ensure they are always in correct order... Concerning the faulty drawing of the bounding box on the map after 2 clicks, I can now see it is OK if I click lower left first, and then upper right ;=() But as suggested a few lines of script should 'fix' this order of things... and not push the user to 'remember' to follow a strict rule ;=)) And maybe the click event on this user selected bounding box should be commented out, until there is a real need for it... Regards, Geoff. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] PostGIS update @ Landcover-DB
Hi Adrian,
This seems to do the swapping trick ;=))
if(box_extents.length==4) {
var tmp;
if (box_extents[0] box_extents[2]) {
tmp = box_extents[0];
box_extents[0] = box_extents[2];
box_extents[2] = tmp;
}
if (box_extents[1] box_extents[3]) {
tmp = box_extents[1];
box_extents[1] = box_extents[3];
box_extents[3] = tmp;
}
Now I get a bounding box drawn no matter what
order, location I click in first, second...
Cheers,
Geoff.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] PostGIS update @ Landcover-DB
On Sat, 2012-01-07 at 21:09 +0200, Adrian Musceac wrote: On Saturday, January 07, 2012 20:23:02 Geoff McLane wrote: Hi Adrian, No, I do NOT think they should be hidden! After the user has used the mouse selection, [s]he may choose to modify the fields, say rounding them, etc, which would be difficult, impossible with the mouse, so I think they should stay... even enhanced with labels to say what they are... So why not use the right side of the table for this? They could be set vertically, with labels, to keep the right side narrow, if that is a concern... It would seem unnecessary, and CONFUSING, to have TWO visible [download buttons], one _ON_ the map and one to the right, no? Hi Geoff, I was talking about the map at index.php, not the small iframe, of course. I don't know how Martin plans to use the small iframe on the other page, I only modified the index.php part. But your iframe code is good too, if the lightmap is swapped for the big one. Cheers, Adrian Hi Adrian, Agreed. Of course it depends on what Martin wants ;=)) I just downloaded /lightmap/index.php and find it is VERY similar to /map/index.php, except 'lighter' - that is the same idea but MUCH less code, no options... It is not really smaller or larger in that both use the same 'bounds'... And he did write - Feel free to go ahead, the foundation of the web map is OpenLayers. This config, to be precise: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/gitweb.pl\ ?p=sceneryweb;a=blob;f=mapserver/map/index.php So we must wait and see which way Martin jumps, maybe after the baby is in bed (swimming?) ;=)) Regards, Geoff. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] PostGIS update @ Landcover-DB
Hi Martin, Re: CLC2000v13 CLC is CORINE Land Cover, a project of the EEA, the European Environmental Agency and therefore covers Europe only. I have to admit that the error message is a bit misleading and will try to imagine a more appropriate report. Yes, the page already clearly says use reasonable coordinates in order to avoid nasty error messages., and a 404 error is certainly quite nasty ;=)) as well as misleading... Maybe you could add to the web page - Do not be stupid enough to request say the area around YGIL in say the CLC2000v13 (CORINE) dataset!... And hopefully politely give an error like - coordinates used are out of dataset range, Dummy! I tried this again with a 4x4 around LFPZ N 50 S 46 W 0 E 4, and got an 82MB zip, which expanded to 106MB, 128 files, 32 shapefiles, and all looks fine... thanks... Re: OpenStreetMap ... BUT contains just one file, COPYING??? Mmmmh, I have to admit this sounds like a bug. I'll check. Might/should be working now, at least my own test was successful, Ok, tried my YGIL again, N -29 S -33 W 146 E 150, and while the 1.4MB zip again still included the COPYING file, also got 16 osm_ shapefiles, total 65 files... so this looks good... So all appears good on the web page downloading ;=)) As stated, have yet to got around to testing 'programmed' downloading, but will soonest... and yell if there is a problem... A little off topic, but what application can I use to 'view' shapefiles in Ubuntu? Any simple suggestions? I would like a simple say - $ viewshape osm_runway [osm_taxiway ...] and it chooses a scale, and draws the lines... The TG tool shpdump does a nice job of showing all the coordinates, but it is not 'graphical'... I have explored a few like 'ArcGIS Explorer', and some others I found, even tried GMT, with 140 odd tools, but this seems another steep learning curve ;=(( and found some windows only 'Shape Viewers'... Anyone with some 'simple' suggestions for unix? Regards, Geoff. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] PostGIS update @ Landcover-DB
Hi Martin, http://www.gitorious.org/fg/sceneryweb Will certainly try to find the time to 'look' at the scripts... and thanks as usual for sharing the contents... QGIS - it's not as nice a command line utility... No, it is NOT, but thanks for this reminder... After a bit of effort to get binary (v1.7.3) installed in Ubuntu, using apt-get, I now have it running... But, to me this is just another VERY steep learning curve to get it to show anything meaningful, useful... Yes, so far 'Adding a Vector' allows me to load shapefiles, then choosing a 'style', and 'Show it in overview' does draw the vectors in the selected styles, and I can zoom, and move about, etc... keeping it all as a 'project'... But WOW, as usual, WHAT AN EFFORT ;=(( Back in May 2009 I had tried to compile QGIS 1.0.2 from source, using cmake at the time, but gave up... It seems meantime it has swung over to using Qt for something, and this is interesting... and git/githib instead of svn... but seems still cmake... I will again persist with it for a while... and see how far I get before shear exhaustion again sets in ;=)) But look forward to any other suggestions for simple 'viewing' of shapefiles specifically... Re: programmed downloads As your server logs should show I have now tested quite a number of individual layers downloads (using wget, around Hong Kong), and there appears no problems so far... will test more... Regards, Geoff. PS: My first QGIS image of some osm shapefiles - http://geoffair.org/tmp/qgis-01.png -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] PostGIS update @ Landcover-DB
On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 17:10 +, Martin Spott wrote: Martin Spott wrote: Shapefile download might/should be working again. Please test, particularly the assigned reference system, and report. If people don't think it's worth testing, then I might think it's not worth maintaining Martin. Hi Martin, Just tried a 4x4 degrees around YGIL - N -29, S -33, W 146, E 150 Downloads from the WEB page - === (a) Custom Scenery - worked fine... zip downloaded and appears valid... and has 11 shapefiles... 44 files... (b) CLC2000v13 - got a 404 error - Not Found The requested URL /download/1e82c1e0-6193-47d1-8af4-692aa2b30017.zip was not found on this server. Repeated, with same 404, different zip - The requested URL /download/b7668570-9f06-4cf6-981a-bbb465901c5c.zip was not found on this server. (c) OpenStreetMap - appeared to work fine... a zip downloaded and appeared valid... BUT contains just one file, COPYING??? And the contents of this COPYING file was - quote Map data (c) OpenStreetMap contributors, CC-BY-SA http://www.openstreetmap.org/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ /quote And repeating the download got the same result!!! ;=(( (d) But doing individual layer downloads, like osm_rail, osm_river, osm_tertiary - the only 4 tried at this time, worked fine... shapefiles look good... So I got problems just with (b) CLC2000v13 and (c) OpenStreetMap... But since it was my first try with both of these, do not know if it is the result of the recent changes, or if it has existed for some time... Direct URL downloading... == Have not yet had a chance to again test direct URL down loading, but will get around to it, and advise any problems... This programmed URL downloading is the method I use normally, usually from within a script/program, and this worked fine on my last downloads a week or so back... Will test more as time permits, and the need develops ;=)) Summary === To me this is a VERY valuable service, but I guess there are just not that many people into their own scenery building, ;=(( It is quite an undertaking... And many that do sometimes use other data sources... with more detail... especially since the 'swirlies' rendering bug appears FIXED with the new BTG versions... But this could/should change as 'easier' TG tool building methods get around, and more is done on GUI scenery building tools... must find the time to continue my efforts in this regard ;=)) Everybody, and their dog, at least 'speak' frequently about the 850 apt data, with its curved taxiways... HTH. Regards, Geoff. -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to compile Terragear-cs ?
On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 16:40 +0100, Clément de l'Hamaide wrote: Hi Pete, Geoff, Now my script work perfectly. Hi Clément, Glad to hear it is all now working fine... Sorry my explanation was not clear... 1. I assume, like Francesco's script, and mine, you have the command in the early part of the script, like - set -e This command asks the script to EXIT, stop, when the last process returns other than 0 as a return value... Without this the default action of a script is to continue even when the last process gives an error exit... non zero... So if you do not do this set -e, or do not want this, then forget this... 2. Also as I understand it, the script can ONLY react to the LAST process in a chain of commands... So if you have a chain of commands like cmake ... 2$1 | tee -a $LOGFILE then the LAST command in this process is the 'tee' So even if there is a cmake error exit, then the script will continue, since the last action, the tee, does not return an error... Is that clearer? 3. Now the situation is DIFFERENT with a simple redirection like - cmake 21 $LOGFILE or make ... 21 $LOGFILE In this case the script will STOP on an error, since redirection is established BEFORE starting cmake or make, command, so in this case the LAST command is the cmake or make error... But in doing this, as you point out, there is NO OUTPUT to the console... Except as Jari pointed out, you can start the script as a background process, and use a repeated tail command to view the end of the LOG in a console... Or even start the script in a terminal, and open another terminal to do the tail command, repeatedly... This is what I tend to do, since I too redirect the SVN or git actions to a log file, and use tail in another terminal to 'see' what is happening... especially when it seems to be taking too long ;=() BUT yes, I too LOVE the fact that 21 | tee -a $LOGFILE sends ALL cmake or make output to BOTH the LOG file for later review, AND to the console... So it is a compromise ;=(( You can either have ALL output put to the LOG file, AND to the console, BUT then the script will NOT stop on an ERROR... Or you can remove this and the script will STOP on an error... but there is LESS information to the console if you use a redirection to a log... So you must choose what ever you think best... That is all... and I attach a simple example below... Re: Building terragear-cs with -DNO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE=1 I am not sure if this is the SAME as -D SIMGEAR_HEADLESS=ON but I am sure they are, in some ways at least, very 'similar'... Maybe others who know more about this can comment further, to clarify... I have only ever used -DNO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE=1... which I know works fine to keep OSG dependency out of the terragear-cs tools... Regards, Geoff. Example: testexit1 #!/bin/sh BN=`basename $0` LOGFILE=/tmp/templog.txt echo $BN: Testing error exit conditions... | tee -a $LOGFILE make -f nofileexists echo $BN: 1: Last exit was $?, but the script is continuing... # set it to stop on error set -e make -f nofileexists 21 | tee -a $LOGFILE echo $BN: 2: Now last exit is zero $?, so the script is continuing... make -f nofileexists 21 $LOGFILE echo $BN: 3: Since the redirection is set up BEFORE echo $BN: running make then this output will NOT be seen as the echo $BN: script will have exited due to the 'make' error. PS: And remember to try the very LATEST terragear-cs tools in development you need to clone and switch to the 'newconstruct' branch... -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to compile Terragear-cs ?
Hi Clément, Pete, This is a VERY GOOD effort. Thank you for sharing... Two things I see - (1) Use of ' 21 | tee -a $LOGFILE' As expressed recently on the Atlas devel list, using this type of expression 'hides' the 'cmake', 'make' error exits... because the LAST action, prior to returning to the script is a 'tee' result, which seldom fails... Yes, we LOVE the fact that _ALL_ cmake, make, etc, actions are recorded in a LOG file, but it then suppresses the 'cmake/make' FAILURE, when the script should ABORT... And then you can get cascading error effects from this... (2) Use of NO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE=1 None of the terragear tools need an OSG 'connection', so it is important to 'define' this when compiling TG tools, with SG... So, while I have NOT explored all your script, these two things seem 'missing' ... I too have a script, bases originally on Brisa's script, to compile TG tools, AFTER you have downloaded and compile 'FG'... see http:/geoffair.org/fg/fgfs-052.htm First run - $ makefg # if this is ALL ok... $ makefg TG The LATEST script, which may not yet be available from the web site, is always available from - http:/geoffair.org/tmp/makefg So, yes, another TG only script is ALWAYS GOOD, but please remove the re-direction to 'tee' so the script exits on the FIRST error! And add the NO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE=1 define, so NONE of the TG tools depend on OSG... like... export CXXFLAGS=-DNO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE=1 The more the merrier... HTH, Regards, Geoff. On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 00:45 +0100, Clément de l'Hamaide wrote: Hi all, I would like to contribute to airports/sceneries. I'm young real pilot and I like to remake the airport where I fly in real life. I've seen that many people have many problem to compile TerraGear. This is why I started to create a similar download_and_install script than brisa script but for TerraGear. I need some help from someone who have a better know than me about TerraGear. I have asked help on IRC but nobody can help me. I have create a thread on US forums and at the moment I have no answer. I've seen some people works with TerraGear (apt850, improve scenery...) if these people can help me to finalize my script then I can diffuse it and I'm sure many people become contributors with this simple script. You can see my thread here : http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20t=14849 (include my script and my compilation log) Hoping someone can help me. I think this script will be a good way to facilitate people to contribute to airports and sceneries. Little precision : I have read all wiki page about terragear and all README file in each section (README.newmat, README.gpc, README) So please don't say me look on wiki ! or read the README file ! ;) Cheers, Clément -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Change in telnet string get behavior, or string change?
Hi Torsten,
Thank you for you quick action, just before NY ;=))
I have NOT yet checked out your change... but
my own change worked well...
Will revert this locally, and try yours...
Thanks for the QUICK response...
Happy NEW YEAR...
Regards,
Geoff.
diff --git a/src/Environment/realwx_ctrl.cxx
b/src/Environment/realwx_ctrl.cxx
index d98bcd5..6150092 100644
--- a/src/Environment/realwx_ctrl.cxx
+++ b/src/Environment/realwx_ctrl.cxx
@@ -127,8 +127,13 @@ void LiveMetarProperties::update( double dt )
}
}
-void LiveMetarProperties::handleMetarData( const std::string data )
+void LiveMetarProperties::handleMetarData( const std::string
in_data )
{
+std::string data = in_data; // sanatise in coming metar data
+for (std::string::size_type i = 0; i data.size(); i++) {
+if (data[i] ' ')
+data[i] = ' ';
+}
SG_LOG( SG_ENVIRONMENT, SG_INFO,
LiveMetarProperties::handleMetarData() received METAR for
getStationId() : data );
_timeToLive = DEFAULT_TIME_TO_LIVE_SECONDS;
setMetar( data );
On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 17:34 +0100, Torsten Dreyer wrote:
Hi Geoff,
IIRC, I have sanitized the METAR string long ago and stripped the
newlines before writing the property.
Looks like it has crept back in somehow. I'll see if I can find what
happened, not sure if I can make it before the end of the year ;-)
Using the last few hours of the year, I just pushed a fix to simplify
the METAR string. Does this solve your issue?
Torsten
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[Flightgear-devel] Change in telnet string get behavior, or string change?
Hi all... I am sure this worked before, but now I seem unable to get the WHOLE metar string from /environment/metar/data... This is in a perl script, using IO::Socket - in the past it worked perfectly ;=)) In the Debug - Browse Internal Properties I can 'see' the whole string like say - '2011/12/30 17:00\nYSDU 301700Z AUTO 12010KT etc...' But now my perl script ONLY receives the data before the '\n'... using either simple --telnet=, which is slow, or say --telnet=foo,bar,20,foo,,bar, which reduces the average access time to less than 0.1 seconds, as the FG command... Of course in the script I have tried setting the socket handle to binmode $SOCKET, but this does not help... As I say this worked before - perhaps months ago - probably prior 2.4 release... but I do not remember this '\n' being in the string... I have tried testing if (!eof $SOCKET) and doing a 2nd read, $val = $SOCKET, but this always blocks! ;=(( It seems either the internal handling of sending of this string has changed, and it stops at the '\n', and the balance of the string is sent as a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th send, after other 'gets' That is, if I send 'get /environment/metar/data', receive the first part, then follow quickly with some other 'get ...' of some other 'properties', it seems the second part of the metar is then sent in reply to one of the subsequent get requests, which, as you can imagine, can create a REAL MESS ;=(( It is simply not predictable in which of the subsequent 'gets' where the balance of the string will appear... but it does usually appear... and puts all other 'gets' out of order... But is 'lost' if I wait several seconds before the next get... And I have no problem with HUNDREDS of other 'gets', T/F, doubles, strings, provided I do not try to get this specific metar string... or if I put a several seconds delay after it, before the next get... Anyway, is this just me, or has the FG telnet code changed somehow? Or simply has this '\n' has been added to the metar string relatively recently, and telnet 'stumbles' on this LF... Now that I have tried everything I can think of to change my perl script handling, setting non-blocking, add delays, etc, etc, etc, will also take a look at the FG code, but meantime maybe someone can offer some quick pointers... Help needed... Regards, Geoff. PS: I have added a simple telnet perl script, chopped from my larger script, which should demonstrates the problem... http://geoffair.org/tmp/simptelnet.txt run with a command say 'localhost ', or whatever... But also maybe perl/telnet experts can point out the error in the script ;=() or offer suggestions... -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Live Multiplayer
On Sun, 2011-12-25 at 09:27 +, Martin Spott wrote: Pedro Morgan wrote: What the Sim missing at the moment is some real ATC... We have OpenRadar, Martin. Hi Martin, Hm, quite, quite interesting ;=)) After setting up openjdk-6-jre, and Eclipse, found one small fix needed to avoid multiple mp server packet rejection - in - de.knewcleus.fgfs/src/de/knewcleus/fgfs/multiplayer/ protocol/MultiplayerPacket.java - public static final int MAX_PACKET_SIZE=1024; + public static final int MAX_PACKET_SIZE=1200; // FIX20111226 This is the current max. size from a recent - FG/src/MultiPlayer/multiplaymgr.cxx With this fix it seemed to handle well the mpserver link, packet exchange, etc, and graphically added current aircraft, showing callsign and a nice predicted forward track... And I was able to create for myself another new sector.xml from the samples given, for an airport of my choice, thanks to mapserver shapefile downloads, etc... which all seemed to work well ;=)) BUT I could NOT seem to get the comms (fgcom?) working... any ideas, pointers... It has a small 'FGCOMM console' window accepting an active and standby frequency, but this does not seem to do anything... it seems nothing is done with the entered 'active' frequency... From our newsletter I can see OpenRadar is in need of a new 'maintainer'... and I can see the source is littered with at least 16 'TODO' comments... And at first glance, the FGCOMM code seems far too minimal, but there are no 'TODO' in this area... but I can not find any code to make it work... Has anybody ever had this OpenRadar comms code working? Tried - http://wiki.flightgear.org/OpenRadar - stunningly brief ;=(( http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6t=10221 seems more interested in using Atlas as the base... http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/Stand_Alone_ATC_Control_Development likewise seems to again favor Atlas... But are there other places where I can read more specifically about this java OpenRadar setup, running, operations? Or is it ALL only in the actual java code? It does not seem to have any 'README' files, just some 215 java sources... Regards, Geoff. -- Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Live Multiplayer
On Sun, 2011-12-25 at 02:05 +0100, HB-GRAL wrote: Am 25.12.11 01:59, schrieb Hal V. Engel: You can do this today with fgcom. Just setup a fgcom server on your local upstairs machine and you are good to go. You don't even need FG running to use fgcom to communicate with other users on your network. Hi Hal Can you point me to docs how to setup a fgcom server ? I didn’t find it at all, and it looks like FlightGear has only one FGCom server, one radio station at all. Cheers, Yves Hi Yves, Assume you have read this - http://wiki.flightgear.org/Howto:_Set_up_a_FGCom_server While it says a lot about installing Libpri, DAHDI, and Asterisk it does seem a little light on exactly how to set up an IP like - fgcom.flightgear.org.uk:16661 - when running an asterisk server... It mentions using fgcom.inc when configuring the asterisk server, but I can not seem to find the contents of this fgcom.inc file ;=(( although the content of several other 'configuration' files are given... And the fgcom svn source has some configuration building perl scripts in the 'server' folder, but none of these seem to create a fgcom.inc file... The wiki ends with the words - Generation details to follow ... I guess you have to understand LOTS more about running an asterisk server, As their about page says - Asterisk is like an erector set or a box of Legos for people who want to create communications applications It would certainly be nice to have a 2nd, or more, servers, like say fgcom.fgx.ch:16661, or on any other port, that can be used with the fgcom client, or in the fgcomgui... Then we would not be dependent on just one IP ;=)) Although I must say I have never yet found the above IP down... And then there would be the question of how such multiple fgcom (asterisk) servers interact, such that even if I configure using say 'ch' I can still 'speak' to pilots using the 'uk' server... etc... another can of worms ;=)) Regards, Geoff. -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] New Minneapolis Scenery
On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 14:44 -0800, J. Holden wrote: Hello everyone, I've released a new version of Minneapolis scenery: http://www.stattosoftware.com/flightgear/minneapolis.zip I cannot make this scenery load in version 2.4, probably because it hopefully fixes the nasty 'swirlies' problem. If anyone gets this scenery to work, and it actually compiled successfully, please let me know. Cheers John Hi John, Only flew around KANE, in a recent git 2.5 build, circa 2011/11/15, and it not only works, but looks BEAUTIFUL ;=)) Some quick comparative images - http://geoffair.org/tmp/tests/kane.htm Congrats! Will this be added to custom scenery, and be available by terrasync any time soon? Regards, Geoff. -- Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] apt.dat update (lowercase names etc.)
On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 14:02 +0100, Roland Häder wrote: On Thu, 2011-12-08 at 13:36 +0100, HB-GRAL wrote: I wish to submit this changes and updates. But I am asking you to review the different changes/possibilities of the script in a code 1 line of apt.dat : a) Same name, but to lower: Old line: '13141 0 1 01MT CRYSTAL LAKES RESORT' New line: '13141 0 1 01MT Crystal Lakes Resort' That will be better. I have noticed it on many airports/airfields. b) No shortcuts, but still = 40 letters Old line: '13020 0 1 04CA GRAY BUTTE FLD' New line: '13020 0 1 04CA Gray Butte Field' Also better in full words, not shortcut. or Old line: '1 940 0 1 0NY7 Murphys Lndg Strip' New line: '1 940 0 1 0NY7 Murphys Landing Strip' Same above. Nice improvement. c) Same name, but marked as closed in apt.dat when ourairports says closed: Old line: '1 250 0 1 03VA Whipoorwill Springs' New line: '1 250 0 1 03VA [X]Whipoorwill Springs' Can you please try to remove that [X] or is it somehow important? d) Take new names from ourairports Old line: '1 18 0 1 04W Keech\n' New line: '1 18 0 1 04W Field of Dreams Airport\n' I think it is hard to validate them but these \n are not parsed well in my view (as a sim-pilot). What changes (0 or a/b/c/d) do you think are useful and will be accepted (also by developers working with apt.dat for FlightGear side projects like Maps, Launchers etc.) ? My launcher won't be affected by it, but maybe fgrun? And how about taxidraw? Cheers, Yves Regards, Roland Hi Yves, All looks like a good idea ;=)) I guess the only thing is concerning 'closed' airports. Should they be in apt.dat at all? But if they are retained for 'historic', or other purposes, it would be good if they were all consistent... - It seems there are already some 16 with [X], but most are with a space after this, except UHP1 [X]Lenino The others are all like 3R3 [X] Austin Executive Airport XBEL [X] Bellows AFB ... etc ... - But 2 just have the word 'closed', no [X] EIGM Gormanston (closed) YLUT Laverton (Military - Closed) - One with both KAUX [X] CLOSED Robert Mueller Municipal - One with just X, no square braces, and closed VHXX X CLOSED Kai Tak As stated, would be nice if they were all similarly 'marked', if retained... Just my 2 cents ;=)) Regards, Geoff. -- Cloud Services Checklist: Pricing and Packaging Optimization This white paper is intended to serve as a reference, checklist and point of discussion for anyone considering optimizing the pricing and packaging model of a cloud services business. Read Now! http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51491232/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound support broken by AI traffic
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 22:44 +0100, Erik Hofman wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 20:44:06 +0100 ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Eric et al, With sg/fg git of yesterday also no sound here at KSFO - well one 'click' sound at beginning and one at end - on exit says deleting some 58 buffers... but no other obvious errors... But sound all ok at YGIL - no AI there yet ;=)) deleting just 4 Source(s) on exit... Did not try the tracker patch, which just chops the AI sound code... And trying the openal tests - .../build/simgear/sound $ ./openal_test1 - ok, hear jet sound fine... But openal_test2, 3, and 4 - hear the same 'click' or 'pop' sounds only, but that is all... Advise any other tests I should try, or more information than given below... Regards, Geoff. ~$ cat /etc/lsb-release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS ~$ dpkg -l | grep -i openal ii libalut-dev1.1.0-2 ii libalut0 1.1.0-2 ii libopenal-dev 1:1.12.854-0ubuntu1~lucid1 rc libopenal0a1:0.0.8-7 ii libopenal1 1:1.12.854-0ubuntu1~lucid1 -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sound support broken by AI traffic
On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 15:35 +0100, Erik Hofman wrote: I've sorted out where things go wrong (last update in git, which basically disables aimodel sounds again). But I have to go and will not be back until tomorrow morning so as far as I can tell the sound is in a working state again. Hi Eric, Thanks. Would confirm sound is back, but now I get the exit messages - AL Error (sound manager): Invalid Operation at release buffer AL Error (sound manager): Invalid Operation at release buffer AL lib: ALc.c:1420: alcDestroyContext(): deleting 5 Source(s) AL lib: ALc.c:1818: alcCloseDevice(): deleting 4 Buffer(s) Regards, Geoff. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Southwest Colorado Scenery - beta 4
Hi, Just for a test I generated a 1x1 degree area around KTEX using 'standard' cs raw and srtm3 data with my TgScenery Qt GUI - the result - http://www.geoffair.org/tmp/tests/ktex.htm#test2 Not as 'beautiful' as John's scenery, but at least the elevations appear correct ;=)) As noted, still lots more tests I could try when, if I get the time... Regards, Geoff. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Southwest Colorado Scenery - beta 4
On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 06:35 -0800, J. Holden wrote: Think I've got it this time. I did test though, still works only with versions 2.6 Download here: http://www.stattosoftware.com/flightgear/Durango.zip (90Mb) Please let me know if this works for you - if it does I'll keep compiling Colorado scenery, possibly to co-release with the next FlightGear version. Cheers John Hi John, Unchanged here ;=(( Still with 9,000 foot valleys at KTEX... Using a fgfs 2.5 compiled 2011/11/15 with git source and data of that same date... You mean there is now a 2.6? And this scenery displays correctly in it? Regards, Geoff. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Southwest Colorado Scenery - beta 2
On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 21:10 -0800, J. Holden wrote: The new build of the Durango scenery is available at http://www.stattosoftware.com/Durango.zip I'm sure there's going to be problems with this scenery as well - the file size went up slightly but probably not enough to solve the problem. The problem with the first batch was that Scrub Cover did not get picked up by fgfs-construct, and with --landmass-ignore as part of my building process, I changed: ogr-decode --max-segment 500 --area-type ScrubCover work/ScrubCover data/shapefiles/cs_scrub.shp to ogr-decode --max-segment 500 --area-type Scrub work/Scrub data/shapefiles/cs_scrub.shp and ran fgfs-construct: fgfs-construct --ignore-landmass --work-dir=work --output-dir=output --lon=-107.5 --lat=37.5 --xdist=2 --ydist=1 AirportArea SRTM-30 AirportObj Lake Road DeciduousForest EvergreenForest MixedForest GrassCover GrassLand Marsh MixedCrop DryCrop BarrenCover Scrub Town Urban HerbTundra SnowCover in an attempt to fix the problem. I don't have any of the FG 2.5 or 2.6 builds, just 2.4, so if someone could test this I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks John Hi John, Sorry but no change... well in this version the Y shaped roads appear at KTEX, but the river is still cut down to 0 elevation, some 9,000 feet below... see - http://geoffair.org/tmp/tests/ktex.htm#beta2 On reflection, maybe this is a problem due to --ignore-landmass option... I remember in fgfs-construct there is a 'service' that 'levels' out roads and rivers, and can thus 'cuts' into the terrain... maybe this is what is happening for the river? Maybe if there was a landmass type, which provided the general terrain mesh at around 9,000 feet (at KTEX), then fgfs-construct could be convinced to NOT cut the river down to zero level... but lay the river ON this base landmass mesh... Just a thought... Regards, Geoff. PS: Of course assume the download is http://www.stattosoftware.com/flightgear/Durango.zip NOT http://www.stattosoftware.com/Durango.zip Are you just testing if we are paying attention ;=)) -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Southwest Colorado Scenery
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 18:05 -0800, J. Holden wrote:
I haven't been able to test this, but if anyone wants to test newly generated
quality scenery, Durango and Telluride are available here:
http://www.stattosoftware.com/flightgear/Durango.zip
Three square degrees of scenery from 37-38N to 107-110W, about a 95Mb
download.
Cheers
John
Hi John,
Had no trouble loading this Durango scenery with a
quite recent git SG/FG, but it seems the
rivers were given a 0 feet altitude, making
for very SPECTACULAR scenery ;=)) see -
http://geoffair.org/tmp/tests/ktex.htm
But thanks for sharing...
And would confirm, like Jacob, that trying to
load this scenery in fgfs prior the sg_binobj changes,
ie circa release 2.4 time, hangs fgfs in my case,
with several outputs of -
We detected an error while reading the file.
And I can see files like say 1204218.btg.gz are
the new version 10 BTG format, so I guess it just
is/was not possible to maintain backwards compatibility
with earlier versions of fgfs ;=(( as was hoped...
And it seems all the other BTG are either version 10,
or version 7? That is none are the Scenery 1.0.1
version 6???
Maybe some thought should be given to putting a patch in
release 2.4 at least, to abort the BTG load if it detects
a later version BTG, or something... just to avoid
more user 'complaints' and 'concerns'...
Or at least a BIG notice somewhere about Scenery
INCOMPATIBILITIES ;=()
Regards,
Geoff.
PS: Below is a quick perl script I used to check
the BTG versions :-
-
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# file: btgvers.pl
use strict;
use warnings;
my $pgmname = $0;
if ($pgmname =~ /(\\|\/)/) {
my @tmpsp = split(/(\\|\/)/,$pgmname);
$pgmname = $tmpsp[-1];
}
sub prt($) {
print shift;
}
sub show_help() {
prt($pgmname: version 0.0.1 2011-11-19\n);
prt(Usage:\n);
prt( $pgmname single_in_file, or\n);
prt( $pgmname \*.btg.gz\, to do 'glob' list.\n);
}
sub show_header($) {
my $file = shift;
my ($data,$n,$i,$hex,$hexstg,$ascii,$c,$num,$vers);
open IF, gzip -d -c $file| or
die ERROR: CAN NOT OPEN $file...$!...\n;
binmode IF;
if ($n = read IF, $data, 4) {
prt(File: $file. Read $n byte header: );
$hexstg = '';
$ascii = '';
for ($i = 0; $i $n; $i++) {
$c = substr($data,$i,1);
$num = ord($c);
$hex = sprintf(%02X ,$num);
$hexstg .= $hex;
if (($c lt ' ')||($c gt '~')) {
$c = '.';
}
$ascii .= $c;
$vers = $num if ($i == 0);
}
prt(Hex $hexstg $ascii Version $vers\n);
} else {
prt(Read failed on file $file\n);
}
close IF;
}
if (@ARGV) {
my $file = $ARGV[0];
if ($file =~ /^-/) {
show_help();
exit 0;
} elsif ($file =~ /(\*|\?)/) {
my @arr = glob $file; # assum wild card
my $cnt = scalar @arr;
prt(Got $cnt files from input [$file]...\n);
foreach $file (@arr) {
show_header($file);
}
} else {
show_header($file); # assume file name
}
} else {
show_help();
prt(Enter name of BTG file to check!\n);
exit 1;
}
exit 0;
# eof - btgvers.pl
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[Flightgear-devel] Using OSG static libraries
Hi,
Attached are two small patch files needed to
allow using OSG, and FREEGLUT static libraries.
Yes, I know some of you wonder why ;=)), but then
you do NOT work in windows, and do not quite understand
the appealing idea of being able to copy ONE files,
fgfs.exe, from one windows machine to another, and it
runs...
That is do not need to carry around a dozen or
so big OSG DLL ;=)) which of course is best done in a
windows installer anyway... just copy one EXE file...
For SG this involves just adding two 'options' to
CMakeLists.txt - OSG_LIBRARY_STATIC and FREEGLUT_STATIC.
These are OFF by default, but if enabled, add some
additional MSVC_FLAGS...
For FG this involves adding the same two options to
CmakeLists.txt, but also -
(a) In src/Main/bootstrap.cxx, chopping the code
pthread_win32_process_attach_np(); Thanks to Eric
for alerting me that this pthread library is no longer
required, so this should be removed anyway...
(b) In src/Main/fg_os_osgviewer.cxx, removing the
#ifdef OSG_PNG_ENABLED around the
USE_OSGPLUGIN(png)
As I see it osgdb_png is ABSOLUTELY required, and
thus should NOT be an option, like jpeg and tiff
remain...
This could also be done by emitting an OSG_PNG_ENABLED
from the CMakeLists.txt, but it seems to make more
sense to remove the macro...
Very small changes indeed...
This all 'static' build does still require one manual
change in the MSVC build files, due to the fact
that I have not yet found a way to 'include' the
appropriate built-in osgdb_ read libraries.
And found when you include osgdb_ive then it is
also necessary to add osgVolume and osgTerrain to
the list of core osg libraries...
At this stage I think this may require customization
of the FindOpenSceneGraph.cmake set of modules, but
still to fully research this... to find an automated
way...
But at this stage it is a small easy manual step...
Have thus started to finalise my -
http://geoffair.org/fg/fgfs-055.htm
where I have placed zipped copies of my '3rdparty'
folder, to give others a quick start into building
SG/FG 'static' ;=)) from current git...
HTH.
Regards,
Geoff.
attached: sg-cmake-01.patch.txt and
fg-cmake-01.patch.txt
diff -uwr C:\FGCVS\flightgear\source\CMakeLists.txt flightgear\CMakeLists.txt
--- C:\FGCVS\flightgear\source\CMakeLists.txt Mon Nov 14 17:37:47 2011
+++ flightgear\CMakeLists.txt Fri Nov 18 15:20:32 2011
@@ -94,6 +94,8 @@
option(ENABLE_RTI Set to ON to build SimGear with RTI support OFF)
option(WITH_FGPANEL Set to ON to build the fgpanel application ON)
option(JPEG_FACTORY Enable JPEG-factory support OFF)
+option(OSG_LIBRARY_STATIC Set to ON to build SimGear with OSG static
libraries OFF)
+option(FREEGLUT_STATIC Set to ON to build SimGear with freeglut static
libraries OFF)
if (MSVC)
GET_FILENAME_COMPONENT(PARENT_DIR ${PROJECT_SOURCE_DIR} PATH)
@@ -245,8 +247,13 @@
# foreach(warning 4244 4251 4267 4275 4290 4786 4305 4996)
# SET(WARNING_FLAGS ${WARNING_FLAGS} /wd${warning})
# endforeach(warning)
-
-set(MSVC_FLAGS -DNOMINMAX -D_USE_MATH_DEFINES
-D_CRT_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS -D_SCL_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS
-D__CRT_NONSTDC_NO_WARNINGS)
+if(OSG_LIBRARY_STATIC)
+set(ADDED_FLAGS ${ADDED_FLAGS} -DOSG_LIBRARY_STATIC)
+endif(OSG_LIBRARY_STATIC)
+if(FREEGLUT_STATIC)
+set(ADDED_FLAGS ${ADDED_FLAGS} -DFREEGLUT_STATIC)
+endif(FREEGLUT_STATIC)
+set(MSVC_FLAGS -DNOMINMAX -D_USE_MATH_DEFINES
-D_CRT_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS -D_SCL_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS -D__CRT_NONSTDC_NO_WARNINGS
${ADDED_FLAGS})
if (${MSVC_VERSION} EQUAL 1600)
set( MSVC_LD_FLAGS /FORCE:MULTIPLE )
endif (${MSVC_VERSION} EQUAL 1600)
diff -uwr C:\FGCVS\flightgear\source\src\Main\bootstrap.cxx
flightgear\src\Main\bootstrap.cxx
--- C:\FGCVS\flightgear\source\src\Main\bootstrap.cxx Tue Oct 25 09:48:54 2011
+++ flightgear\src\Main\bootstrap.cxx Thu Nov 17 18:12:56 2011
@@ -196,10 +196,6 @@
signal(SIGPIPE, SIG_IGN);
#endif
-#ifdef PTW32_STATIC_LIB
-// Initialise static pthread win32 lib
-pthread_win32_process_attach_np ();
-#endif
_bootstrap_OSInit = 0;
#if defined(__FreeBSD__)
diff -uwr C:\FGCVS\flightgear\source\src\Main\fg_os_osgviewer.cxx
flightgear\src\Main\fg_os_osgviewer.cxx
--- C:\FGCVS\flightgear\source\src\Main\fg_os_osgviewer.cxx Sun Oct 09
16:38:11 2011
+++ flightgear\src\Main\fg_os_osgviewer.cxx Thu Nov 17 18:12:50 2011
@@ -70,11 +70,9 @@
USE_OSGPLUGIN(pnm);
USE_OSGPLUGIN(rgb);
USE_OSGPLUGIN(tga);
+USE_OSGPLUGIN(png);
#ifdef OSG_JPEG_ENABLED
USE_OSGPLUGIN(jpeg);
-#endif
-#ifdef OSG_PNG_ENABLED
- USE_OSGPLUGIN(png);
#endif
#ifdef OSG_TIFF_ENABLED
USE_OSGPLUGIN(tiff);
diff -uwr C:\FGCVS\simgear\source\CMakeLists.txt simgear\CMakeLists.txt
--- C:\FGCVS\simgear\source\CMakeLists.txt Mon Nov 14 17:48:32 2011
+++ simgear\CMakeLists.txt Mon Nov 14 19:03:33 2011
@@ -51,6 +51,8 @@
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terragear now sans plib
On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 22:15 +0100, Frederic Bouvier wrote: - Mail original - On 8 Nov 2011, at 19:59, Frederic Bouvier wrote: FWIW, I added a TerraGear-Win-Cmake task to the Jenkins Server. Artifacts are archived. Brilliant, thanks Fred. I am still not sure about the right method to exclude OSG from the build. I added -DNO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE -DNO_TIMER to the MSVC flags, but I am curious to know how it is done for Linux or Mac. Regards, -Fred Hi Fred, In Ubuntu linux, because I do NOT have OSG installed in any 'standard' place, in my makefg script, I do - export CXXFLAGS=-DNO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE=1 export CFLAGS=-DNO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE=1 to get terragear-cs to cmake build... Maybe the CFLAGS is not needed. I did try adding - -D CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS:STRING=-DNO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE=1 but could NOT get that working... it was not passed to the compiler... Regards, Geoff. -- RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terragear now sans plib
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 17:56 +0100, Frederic Bouvier wrote:
In Ubuntu linux, because I do NOT have OSG installed in
any 'standard' place, in my makefg script, I do -
export CXXFLAGS=-DNO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE=1
export CFLAGS=-DNO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE=1
to get terragear-cs to cmake build...
Maybe the CFLAGS is not needed. I did try adding -
-D CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS:STRING=-DNO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE=1
but could NOT get that working... it was not passed to
the compiler...
The 'best' fix will be to set this define in the root CMakeList for
TerraGear - I'll do this 'soon' if no one beats me to it.
I already did that, but for MSVC only. I also had to add -DNO_TIMER
-Fred
Hi Fred, James,
Well, I think the -DNO_OPENSCENEGRAPH_INTERFACE=1
needs to be applied to ALL ports, since terragear-cs
should have no need for OpenSceneGraph dependence,
IN ANY MACHINE...
It seems -DNO_TIMER is due solely to a file
as part of -
src/Lib/TriangleJRS/triangle.c
for systems that do NOT have the function
'gettimeofday()', and that is just native Windows,
no?
And maybe mingw? Or cygwin? - do not know...
In my previous TG Windows build I added -
#define NO_TIMER
#define TRILIBRARY
to a hand crafted config.h for MSVC...
and added -
#include config.h
to triangle.c...
But now that cmake generates a 'config.h' in
ALL platforms, then perhaps it could be added
to that rather than as yet ANOTHER compiler
switch...
Or perhaps dealt with like TRILIBRARY, in
src/Lib/TriangleJRS/CMakeLists.txt
set_target_properties(TriangleJRS PROPERTIES
COMPILE_DEFINITIONS TRILIBRARY )
Although, really, it would NOT be a big job to add
a gettimeofday() service, either using the native
QueryPerformanceCounter(li)
or even _ftime(), for the Windows port...
That could be as simple as -
#ifdef _MSC_VER
#include sys\timeb.h
#ifndef timeval /* is in Ws2_32.h */
struct timeval {
long tv_sec;
long tv_usec;
};
#endif /* timeval */
#ifndef timezone
struct timezone {
int tz_minuteswest;
int tz_dsttime;
};
#endif /* timezone */
int gettimeofday(struct timeval *tp, void *tzp)
{
struct _timeb timebuffer;
_ftime(timebuffer);
tp-tv_sec = timebuffer.time;
tp-tv_usec = timebuffer.millitm * 1000;
return 0;
}
#endif /* _MSC_VER */
Just tested this code in Windows, and it compiles
fine, making no need to define NO_TIMER for
Windows ;=))
Had to change one other line -
#ifndef NO_TIMER
to
#if !defined(NO_TIMER) !defined(_MSC_VER)
#include sys/time.h
#endif /* NO_TIMER */
HTH.
Regards,
Geoff.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Serving maps from internet;
Hi Martin, Thanks for the reply... Sorry to disturb you again. I know you are probably quite busy, some of which may be getting ready for FSWeekEnd - I will not be able to attend this year ;=(( - but I do not quite understand mapserver's WMS response... I send a URL with say a BBOX - SRS=EPSG:900913 BBOX=755972.40132839,6797404.6358777,\ 765756.34094714,6807188.5754964 That is exactly at a Resolution of 9783.93961875... and get a reply - [An error occurred: Current x value 755972.401328 is too far from tile corner x 753363.347055] It seems as if I MUST know the exact boundaries, the precise corners of an 'existing' tile, or something... Earlier I was getting an error like can not match resolution, until I started using exact resolution values from the capabilities xml... Maybe, as usual, I am doing something really stupid ;=(( The full text of this last run is here, with the URLS used, and various other 'debug' information, like the equivalent WSG84 values - http://geoffair.org/tmp/templog.txt This run was using LAYERS=customscene, but I have tried various layers listed in the capabilities xml, but always with the same result... x value too far... even though in some case also 'quite' close... Hope you can help... Regards, Geoff. PS: OT: Just discovered Evolution WILL fill in the dev list email address if I use [Reply All] instead of just [Reply]. One mystery solved ;=)) -- RSA#174; Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] moving map of Hondajet or Da-42 // nextscenerygeneration
On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 09:54 +, Alan Teeder wrote: That means the maps should be in /home/michael/.fgfs/zkv1000/maps/terrain (note /terrain at the end!). -Original Message- From: Michael Sgier Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 7:42 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] moving map of Hondajet or Da-42 // nextscenerygeneration Thanks Alan. No wonder it doesn't show anything: /home/michael/.fgfs/zkv1000/maps ../../../../../../../../../home/michael/.fgfs/zkv1000/maps zkv1000 loaded zkv1000 PFD switched on! zkv1000 MFD switched on! Hi, Ok, I moved the maps, and get the same output, with my home path of course, except the 'switched on' part... How do I switch them ON? I think I have moved/clicked EVERYTHING I could find in both the hondajet and da42, and still no map display... Maybe I missed this information... Regards, Geoff. -- RSA#174; Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] moving map of Hondajet or Da-42 // nextscenerygeneration
On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 19:31 +, Alan Teeder wrote: Geoff I have just tried the Hondajet and this works. ( If needed press Ctrl-C to highlight the hot-spot controls.) On the left hand screen (the PFD) I pressed the 1st button on the bottom row below the screen. The main flight instruments (horizon etc.) appeared on the screen. I repeated this with the right hand screen (the MFD) and the map came up. The buttons are dynamic and their function depends upon PFD and MFD mode setting. Perhaps the author(s) could offer some help. ;-) If you want to try the same with my TSR2, (http://v-twin.dynip.sapo.pt/alan/VickersAircaft/TSR2/TSR2.zip) operate the 'lamp select' toggle switch below the brilliance control, which is on the bottom left of the circular map display. Alan Hi Alan, Thank you ;=)) Yes, on both the hondajet and da42, clicking the first button on the bottom row of each, the PFD, and MFD, DID THE TRICK ;=)) I 'thought' I had tried this before but obviously NOT ;=() And reminding me of the ctrl+c, to highlight the 'clickable' items also helped... I had forgotten this ;=(( So many things/keys to remember... The display is BEAUTIFUL ;=)) Now, even more than before, I want DETAILED, feature rich images ;=)) If only I can find a WMS server to fully oblige... and maybe as some have suggested, that could be the online, if available, 'source' of the display... And/or convince Atlas/Map to also add airport/navaid overlays onto the maps, like it did in the past... either as an option to Map, during the map creation, or have a capability in Atlas to dump the maps-with-nice-detailed-overlays to disk... BUT ANYWAY, TAR MUCHLY ;=)) Just a idle thought... lots of aircraft could benefit from having such PFD/MFD displays... maybe as a sort of hand held device you carry on board, without all the modes/autopilot features, since we do need to keep the 'realism' of only what exists in each aircraft at manufacture... Sort of like a 'super' hand-held GPS device... or maybe we have that already??? Have downloaded your TSR2.zip - quite a slow download, but no problem - and thank you. I assume I unzip this into a new folder - fgdata/Aircraft/TSR2 and looking forward to trying this also as soon as time allows... Many thanks again... Regards, Geoff. -- RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Serving maps from internet;
On Sun, 2011-10-30 at 19:38 +, Martin Spott wrote: Geoff McLane wrote: As you may know the Atlas project already has a GetMap application, linked with CURL to to do the http requests... written by Fred back in 2004, [snip] http://mapserver.flightgear.org/ Cheerio, Martin. Hi Martin, and others... I guess I was a little unclear about other WMS servers... What I wanted to say was nothing I found offered any particular advantages over what the current Map application produces using current fgdata BTG files, and OpenGL rendering... I was hoping your mapserver could eventually produce something more, like the airport and navaid overlays I mentioned... images with lots of 'features'... And thank you to all the others, who responded with ideas. Some of these were great, like Alex's idea of Atlas getting its map image directly from a WMS server... And the idea that terrasync could be used to download any missing fgdata areas... And reminders about other WMS servers like mapnik2, kde marble, QGIS, GDAL, etc, et al... Well, you are all welcome to negotiate with the Atlas maintainers (Brian), and produce and offer what ever code you are interested in ;=)) The ONLY thing I am interested in at this time is to use the presently moribund GetMap application, either as part of the Atlas suite, or separately, to produce other, different maps for use with Atlas, and the ZKV1000... And yes Martin, I had missed those bottom entries on mapserver giving the GetCapabilities URL... will check that out... And there is no problem using EPSG:900913, in that it is quite simple to add a bit of code to GetMap allowing the user to still input WSG84 (EPSG:4326), and present EPSG:900913 to mapserver... So, I had already previous adjust my WIN32 GetMap to accept a single (long) URL, as is, like what you gave, and use only that to get the image... But all I got was a mostly gray and white checkered tile, which I assume is the transparent color, with a small artifact on the top right... is that it? See - http://geoffair.org/tmp/tempfile.png The lat,lon you used 51.18,6.42 - 51.23,6.50 seems to be a 'residential' area, on Hutterbaum St, or have I really screwed up this Mercator to wsg84 conversion, or something... Look forward to your advice what I am doing wrong... remember I used the URL exactly as per your email - http://mapserver.flightgear.org/tc/?LAYERS=tarmacTRANSPARENT=trueFORMAT=image%2FpngSERVICE=WMSVERSION=1.1.1REQUEST=GetMapSTYLES=SRS=EPSG:900913BBOX=714227.59136875,6653078.93995,724011.5309875,6662862.8795688WIDTH=256HEIGHT=256 And yes, while more and other ideas are always welcome, understand I am only trying to get maps, from a WMS, written to disk... a limited engagement at this time ;=(( Regards, Geoff. -- Get your Android app more play: Bring it to the BlackBerry PlayBook in minutes. BlackBerry App World#153; now supports Android#153; Apps for the BlackBerryreg; PlayBook#153;. Discover just how easy and simple it is! http://p.sf.net/sfu/android-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
