Re: FOP font width for custom font (Arial)
There is one other thing to check for - that your printed PDF is not being 'scaled to fit', use draft quality etc. - because I forgot once and wasted a lot of time. Mike The Web Maestro wrote: On Nov 17, 2005, at 5:22 PM, Manuel Mall wrote I just did my own test and the results are intriguing (using the latest version of FOP). There is certainly a big difference between Word and FOP. It appears that FOP ignores the font-weight=bold. That is the text is rendered identically for font-weight=bold and font-weight=normal. This may be due to a lack of a font-triplet for BOLD, although you're using Arial (aren't you?) so IMO it should Just Work(tm) Secondly it appears to be rendered in nearly the same size as Word renders at font size 14. This is when the font is embedded into the PDF. This may be the problem. It may not be embedding the 'bold' version of the font for some reason. Converting my FO example to HTML/CSS both IE and FireFox render it identically and consistent with Word. This seems to need some further investigation... Regards, Web Maestro Clay -- Datalucid Limited Message Scanned by ClamAV on datalucid.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP font width for custom font (Arial)
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 08:28 pm, Mike Trotman wrote: There is one other thing to check for - that your printed PDF is not being 'scaled to fit', use draft quality etc. - because I forgot once and wasted a lot of time. Mike, thank you!!! That was exactly the problem why my PDFs printed in an apparent bigger font size than the Word sample. As far as I can tell the print rendering of both Word and FOP trunk generated PDFs is identical when using the same font, font size, weight, no kerning, no justification, NO PRINT SCALING, etc Manuel Mike The Web Maestro wrote: On Nov 17, 2005, at 5:22 PM, Manuel Mall wrote I just did my own test and the results are intriguing (using the latest version of FOP). There is certainly a big difference between Word and FOP. It appears that FOP ignores the font-weight=bold. That is the text is rendered identically for font-weight=bold and font-weight=normal. This may be due to a lack of a font-triplet for BOLD, although you're using Arial (aren't you?) so IMO it should Just Work(tm) Secondly it appears to be rendered in nearly the same size as Word renders at font size 14. This is when the font is embedded into the PDF. This may be the problem. It may not be embedding the 'bold' version of the font for some reason. Converting my FO example to HTML/CSS both IE and FireFox render it identically and consistent with Word. This seems to need some further investigation... Regards, Web Maestro Clay - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP font width for custom font (Arial)
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 04:46 am, Prakash R wrote: I'm using Arial font with FOP. I installed the fonts by following the step to install custom fonts from TTF on the FOP website using the TTFReader and adding entries in userconfig.xml. When I generate a PDF which uses the Arial font, the width of characters are different for uppercase and lowercase. The lowercase being lesser width. Is there anyway I can set any property so that the lowercase characters are also the same width as the uppercase characters? Arial is a so called proportional font. Not only have lowercase letters different widths to uppercase letters but even within the same case letters will have different widths, e.g. i will have a different width to m and W is different in width to J. If a fixed character width is important to your layout you need to use a fixed width (= non proportional) font. For example Courier. Thank you. Prakash Manuel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP font width for custom font (Arial)
Thanks Manuel. I understand the difference now. Let me rephrase my question. I'm using Arial font in FOP and when I render it to PDF with a specific font type and size (bold, size 12 pt) and I do the same with Microsoft word and print both. It is exact same line and same font etc. The Microsoft version of it is longer (when I overlay and compare) than the FOP version even though both are using the same fonts? Somehow the spacing of the characters/words seems to be different in FOP than with word. Is this a known issue? Can this be corrected? This is causing some inconsistency between 2 formats namely word and PDF. Please help. Thank you. Prakash --- Manuel Mall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 04:46 am, Prakash R wrote: I'm using Arial font with FOP. I installed the fonts by following the step to install custom fonts from TTF on the FOP website using the TTFReader and adding entries in userconfig.xml. When I generate a PDF which uses the Arial font, the width of characters are different for uppercase and lowercase. The lowercase being lesser width. Is there anyway I can set any property so that the lowercase characters are also the same width as the uppercase characters? Arial is a so called proportional font. Not only have lowercase letters different widths to uppercase letters but even within the same case letters will have different widths, e.g. i will have a different width to m and W is different in width to J. If a fixed character width is important to your layout you need to use a fixed width (= non proportional) font. For example Courier. Thank you. Prakash Manuel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP font width for custom font (Arial)
On Nov 17, 2005, at 4:17 PM, Prakash R wrote: Thanks Manuel. I understand the difference now. Let me rephrase my question. I'm using Arial font in FOP and when I render it to PDF with a specific font type and size (bold, size 12 pt) and I do the same with Microsoft word and print both. It is exact same line and same font etc. The Microsoft version of it is longer (when I overlay and compare) than the FOP version even though both are using the same fonts? Somehow the spacing of the characters/words seems to be different in FOP than with word. Is this a known issue? Can this be corrected? This is causing some inconsistency between 2 formats namely word and PDF. Please help. Thank you. Prakash There are a few questions you might be able to answer and/or ask: - Does the Microsoft version use text-align=justify? - Are the Character Paragraph settings identical (MS Word has are a lot of options: condensed/expanded, char width, line-spacing, etc.) - Are they generated on the same platform? - Do the characters look identical, just the spacing is different? Expecting FOP output to look identical to Microsoft is (IMO) asking a lot. For most uses, people aren't going to be comparing the two, so it isn't a problem. I suspect that if you really need the output to look identical, you might need to either start submitting patches to fix the problem or paying someone to submit patches. Either of which would be welcome (IMO)! Regards, Web Maestro Clay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/ My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP font width for custom font (Arial)
On Nov 17, 2005, at 5:22 PM, Manuel Mall wrote I just did my own test and the results are intriguing (using the latest version of FOP). There is certainly a big difference between Word and FOP. It appears that FOP ignores the font-weight=bold. That is the text is rendered identically for font-weight=bold and font-weight=normal. This may be due to a lack of a font-triplet for BOLD, although you're using Arial (aren't you?) so IMO it should Just Work(tm) Secondly it appears to be rendered in nearly the same size as Word renders at font size 14. This is when the font is embedded into the PDF. This may be the problem. It may not be embedding the 'bold' version of the font for some reason. Converting my FO example to HTML/CSS both IE and FireFox render it identically and consistent with Word. This seems to need some further investigation... Regards, Web Maestro Clay -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/ My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. - HH The 14th Dalai Lama of Tibet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
