from:"Böðvar Björgvinsson"

SOLVED.
Seems that this time Affinity Publisher might have had something to do with
it, as I had been pdf-ing a file from there earlier. Closing it down did
the trick!
Thanks to all.
Bodvar




fös., 10. sep. 2021 kl. 11:23 skrifaði Böðvar Björgvinsson :

> Hi Framers,
>
> I am suddenly stuck with a new problem. When trying to print an fm file to
> ps and then distilling it I either get the message "Cannot open this file.
> The file is being used by another process."
> Even if I close Framemaker I still get this message.
> Also, if I try to open the ps file in Distiller, I get the message that I
> don't have the permission to open the file. And when trying to change the
> ownership of the file, I just get another similar message and the file
> disappears.
> Save as pdf gives the same kind of error messages.
> And Adobe PDF is my default printer.
> What could be wrong?
>
> I'm on a deadline, so any help soon would be appreciated.
> Earlier today I had no problem pdf-ing from Affinity Publisher.
>
> Kind regards,
> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] [EXTERNAL] ps file being used by another process

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the reply.

My FM 2015 (version 13) was installed without its pdf engine.

Best regards,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson




fös., 10. sep. 2021 kl. 11:44 skrifaði Tom Beiswenger <
tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com>:

> Bodvar,
>
> I'm running FM 12. Years ago, I had the same problem, which was created
> when IT installed FM and allowed FM to install its verson of Adobe's pdf
> generator. This caused FM to ignore the fact that I already had a full
> version of Acrobat. The solution was to uninstall FM and reinstall and not
> allow it to install what became known as a "headless" printer.
>
> After that, I always used Save as PDF, and when I selected Adobe PDF as
> the printer, it printed the document using my already installed Acrobat app.
>
> Uninstalling and reinstalling might have been a more severe solution than
> needed, but it worked and the IT guys were happy that they never had to
> monkey with FM again, which was fine by me.
>
> 
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> -----Original Message-
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> To: framers 
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Framers] ps file being used by another process
>
> Hi Framers,
>
> I am suddenly stuck with a new problem. When trying to print an fm file to
> ps and then distilling it I either get the message "Cannot open this file.
> The file is being used by another process."
> Even if I close Framemaker I still get this message.
> Also, if I try to open the ps file in Distiller, I get the message that I
> don't have the permission to open the file. And when trying to change the
> ownership of the file, I just get another similar message and the file
> disappears.
> Save as pdf gives the same kind of error messages.
> And Adobe PDF is my default printer.
> What could be wrong?
>
> I'm on a deadline, so any help soon would be appreciated.
> Earlier today I had no problem pdf-ing from Affinity Publisher.
>
> Kind regards,
> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
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Re: [Framers] ps file being used by another process

Hi Reng,

Thanks for replying so soon.

When you use Save as PDF, do you use FrameMaker's internal
> PDF engine? Or Distiller?
>
Started by save as pdf which uses FM's internal pdf engine.
Then I printed to file (first finding out that Adobe PDF was not my default
printer and then changing that).


> Do you get these messages also with other files or only with this book?
> Are these files on a network?

I only tried this file. And, yes, on Dropbox, but it has not been a problem
earlier.

As a short help I would copy all files of the book to another folder

(best locally) and create the PDF there.


When you get these messages, it sounds, as if FrameMaker has not
> completed the PS creation.
>
After changing to Adobe PDF it completes the ps (file size as expected).
When either double clicking the file or opening it from within Distiller I
get these messages.


> Or possibly something with your anti-virus software?

No change in that for a long time. If it is just at all these moments
checking the file, oit would surprise me! (Acronis True Image 2021 — and it
is not set to back up my Dropbox files).

Did you restart Windows?
>
No.

> Do others have access to these files?

No. And I have by default the admin rights, except in rare cases.

Best regards,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson




fös., 10. sep. 2021 kl. 11:32 skrifaði Reng Winfried <
w.r...@carecom-solutions.com>:

> Hi Bodvar,
>
> When you use Save as PDF, do you use FrameMaker's internal
> PDF engine? Or Distiller?
> Do you get these messages also with other files or only with this book?
> Are these files on a network?
>
> As a short help I would copy all files of the book to another folder
> (best locally) and create the PDF there.
>
> When you get these messages, it sounds, as if FrameMaker has not
> completed the PS creation.
> Or possibly something with your anti-virus software?
>
> Did you restart Windows?
> Do others have access to these files?
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers  carecom-solutions@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Böðvar
> Björgvinsson
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 1:24 PM
> To: framers 
> Subject: [Framers] ps file being used by another process
>
> Hi Framers,
>
> I am suddenly stuck with a new problem. When trying to print an fm file to
> ps and then distilling it I either get the message "Cannot open this file.
> The file is being used by another process."
> Even if I close Framemaker I still get this message.
> Also, if I try to open the ps file in Distiller, I get the message that I
> don't have the permission to open the file. And when trying to change the
> ownership of the file, I just get another similar message and the file
> disappears.
> Save as pdf gives the same kind of error messages.
> And Adobe PDF is my default printer.
> What could be wrong?
>
> I'm on a deadline, so any help soon would be appreciated.
> Earlier today I had no problem pdf-ing from Affinity Publisher.
>
> Kind regards,
> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
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[Framers] ps file being used by another process

Hi Framers,

I am suddenly stuck with a new problem. When trying to print an fm file to
ps and then distilling it I either get the message "Cannot open this file.
The file is being used by another process."
Even if I close Framemaker I still get this message.
Also, if I try to open the ps file in Distiller, I get the message that I
don't have the permission to open the file. And when trying to change the
ownership of the file, I just get another similar message and the file
disappears.
Save as pdf gives the same kind of error messages.
And Adobe PDF is my default printer.
What could be wrong?

I'm on a deadline, so any help soon would be appreciated.
Earlier today I had no problem pdf-ing from Affinity Publisher.

Kind regards,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
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Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-16 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Actually, I found the ser no. to my FM2015 a couple of days ago and was
finally able to install it too. So now I am as happy (about these things)
as can be!  (And don't need to g

But this thread has evolved into something very interesting, showing so
many problems with Adobe customer attitude. That's maybe the inevitable
problem with the giants.

Cheers.
Bodvar




þri., 10. ágú. 2021 kl. 19:43 skrifaði Böðvar Björgvinsson :

> Hello all you great people!
>
> Sorry for the (Adobe) rant.
>
> Due to my laptop's old age I found myself needing a new pc, a desktop this
> time. All is well with everything but Adobe FM. I recently tried to install
> my FM12 which I had lost any info about, and got a categorical No Go from
> Adobe Support (contradiction in terms).
>
> However I managed to install my FM 10, legally bought with CD and all (for
> two computers but only one using it at a time) and got it set up and
> working OK. Only, when I tried to use it again, I got a message that it
> needs activation with Adobe. I ended up contacting Adobe online support who
> finally sent me an update and everything went well—for the time being.
>
> Now, some 10-15 days later I started FM10, only to find that it wanted
> activation with Adobe and I had 15 days until it would not be working at
> all. At first it said, no Internet. Then it said I was connected and I
> tried and I got the message that I had no internet connection and would
> have to try again (and some other variation and try again.
>
> The recommended webpage is of little or no help.
>
> So finally I contacted Adobe online support. It took them approx. 90
> minutes to figure it out. The product was too old for their databases. I
> gave the guy access to my PC and he started digging. Finally I had to
> uninstall and reinstall the FM upon which he sent me some kind of update
> (license key, probably) which he didn't manage to obey, and the same all
> over again. Then I remembered the update (TCS3) which he installed and then
> the other update and all went well. He told me he had given it a new
> license key (serial number) registered to my name. I hope for the best! And
> I really recommend those guys on the Adobe online support.
>
> But I think I am permanently giving up on Adobe. Nowadays they seem
> only to want your money. And a lot of it. Working now on probably my last
> FM project.
>
> Going for Affinity from now on, which seems fabulous software.
>
> That's all for now.
>
> Kind regards,
> Bodvar
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-16 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

My first book cover in Affinity Publisher went like a dream. Affinity ver.
1.10 is also much faster than earlier versions.
Also, FM2015 on my new PC loads referenced pictures much faster than my old
Dell XPS laptop.

Brgds,
Bodvar





mán., 16. ágú. 2021 kl. 20:47 skrifaði Syed Zaeem Hosain <
syed.hos...@aeris.net>:

> Oops, sorry - the name is Designer Pro X.
>
> Z
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Syed Zaeem Hosain
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 1:46 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>; Robert Lauriston 
> Subject: RE: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
>
> I have not tried Affinity [yet], but I recommend Design Pro X (the
> perpetual version is at www.magix.com) for page layout as an alternative
> to InDesign.
>
> I am not an InDesign user, so please take this recommendation with the
> appropriate grain of salt - try it for yourself please!
>
> Design Pro X is a perpetual license (Windows only) and there is also a
> cloud-based subscription version now (Argh - hope this is not an indication
> of the future!) at www.xara.com.
>
> One thing that seems interesting: Affinity has a native MacOS version.
>
> And, Designer Pro X has a beta capability to read InDesign IDML files ...
> Affinity has this support already supposedly. Not sure how important this
> is for people!
>
> FWIW, I am goint to import an InDesign IDML into Design Pro X this coming
> week, since I need to add some text to a document, and will see how that
> goes. If it does not work, I will try Affinity!
>
> Z
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 12:46 AM
> To: Robert Lauriston ; Framers List <
> framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
>
>You said: If you need only a page layout program, don't buy FrameMaker,
>either.
>What would you suggest if you only need a page layout program,
>Affinity?
>
>On 12-Aug-21 10:47 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
>
> If you don't need a help authoring tool, don't buy Flare. Flare's
> expensive because it takes a lot of development to keep up with customers'
> evolving requirements.
>
> If you need only a page layout program, don't buy FrameMaker, either.
> Its relatively high cost reflects its additional features such as
> multichannel publishing, DITA, and the FDK.
>
> The document I round-tripped from FrameMaker to Flare and back wasn't
> particularly simple, it was just consistently formatted.
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Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer

2021-08-13 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Thanks, Michael.
That did the trick! FM2015 (FM 13) up and running on my new computer!
Enjoy a virtual pizza on me! 
Best regards,
Bodvar




mið., 11. ágú. 2021 kl. 22:01 skrifaði Michael Heine :

> Licensecrawler (www dot klinzmann dot name) will read out your Adobe
> licenses -- if that's the missing reference. Might not get you through
> the online registration, but it's step 1.
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
> On 11.8.2021 16:02, framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com wrote:
> > Actually, on my old laptop I have FM2015, which I love, but am not able
> to
> > use on my new desktop (all references missing), so FM 10 will have to do.
> > I will have a lot of work to do to change my numerous 2015 files to older
> > version in mif for the FM10.
> > I was lucky enough to get an offer for the Affinity suite at half price,
> > and now a free upgrade which allows for thousands of pages, a lot faster
> > start etc. I am not using it yet for any real work as I haven't had the
> > time to familiarize myself with it.
> >
> > Affinity is said to read InDesign and other Adobe files except FM, but
> with
> > the tool from dptools it might work.
> >
> > Brgds,
> > Bodvar
>
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Re: [Framers] Superscript and Subscript

2021-08-12 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Alison, are you referring to me? If so, you're welcome, but please confirm.
:-)
Bodvar




fim., 12. ágú. 2021 kl. 18:26 skrifaði Craig Ede :

> Alison,
> I was attempting to refer to the "fixed" option the Bodvar pointed out.
>
> Craig
>
> 
> ...snip...
> The only thing I remember is that you can lock the line spacing so that
> these elements that stick up or down don't affect the leading at all, but
> that usually makes things cramped. That option is usually used where the
> designer wants the lines to always line up across a multi-column layout.
>
> Craig
> ...unsnip...
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Re: [Framers] Superscript and Subscript

2021-08-12 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Hi Alison,
Are your line spacings set to "Fixed"? If not, I think that would be the
solution.
Brgds,
Bodvar




fim., 12. ágú. 2021 kl. 00:03 skrifaði A Craig :

>
> I have a few superscript and a lot of subscript markings in my book.
>
> The markings are especially annoying, particularly in tables, as they
> don't leave enough space above the superscript so the table line above it
> so it looks crammed into the space. And Frame rearranges the leading for
> both so there's too much space between the lines - it almost looks like I
> have 1-1/2 line spacing.
>
> I'd like to make the super and subscript markings a little lower and
> higher, respectively, so they are noticeable, but don't muck with table
> spacing or leading.
>
> Is there any place in Frame to control these options?
>
> Alison
>
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Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-11 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Thanks for all the replies.

I can see that more people than me are having a problem of this kind.

Actually, on my old laptop I have FM2015, which I love, but am not able to
use on my new desktop (all references missing), so FM 10 will have to do.
I will have a lot of work to do to change my numerous 2015 files to older
version in mif for the FM10.
I was lucky enough to get an offer for the Affinity suite at half price,
and now a free upgrade which allows for thousands of pages, a lot faster
start etc. I am not using it yet for any real work as I haven't had the
time to familiarize myself with it.

Affinity is said to read InDesign and other Adobe files except FM, but with
the tool from dptools it might work.

Brgds,
Bodvar




þri., 10. ágú. 2021 kl. 20:01 skrifaði Syed Zaeem Hosain <
syed.hos...@aeris.net>:

> I have no real clue about Affinity, but you may find this interesting:
> https://fixthephoto.com/adobe-framemaker-vs-affinity-publisher.html
>
> For me, I switched to LaTeX (for my technical documents) after FM12 when
> the pricing/upgrade costs went berserk (IMHO), and from InDesign (minimal
> use really) and Photoshop to various Xara tools - now integrated into their
> Designer Pro lineup.
>
> The price is right for those replacement tools, and they do exactly what I
> need from them. With rational licensing and upgrade prices!
>
> YMMV, of course.
>
> Z
>
> Pardon my harping on these in a FrameMaker mailing list ... I feel that as
> an early adopter of FM (version 1.3, as I recall, on a Sun 3/50 back in
> 1988), I have earned the right a bit, I hope! 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> On Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:44 PM
> To: framers 
> Subject: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
>
> Hello all you great people!
>
> Sorry for the (Adobe) rant.
>
> Due to my laptop's old age I found myself needing a new pc, a desktop this
> time. All is well with everything but Adobe FM. I recently tried to install
> my FM12 which I had lost any info about, and got a categorical No Go from
> Adobe Support (contradiction in terms).
>
> However I managed to install my FM 10, legally bought with CD and all (for
> two computers but only one using it at a time) and got it set up and
> working OK. Only, when I tried to use it again, I got a message that it
> needs activation with Adobe. I ended up contacting Adobe online support who
> finally sent me an update and everything went well—for the time being.
>
> Now, some 10-15 days later I started FM10, only to find that it wanted
> activation with Adobe and I had 15 days until it would not be working at
> all. At first it said, no Internet. Then it said I was connected and I
> tried and I got the message that I had no internet connection and would
> have to try again (and some other variation and try again.
>
> The recommended webpage is of little or no help.
>
> So finally I contacted Adobe online support. It took them approx. 90
> minutes to figure it out. The product was too old for their databases. I
> gave the guy access to my PC and he started digging. Finally I had to
> uninstall and reinstall the FM upon which he sent me some kind of update
> (license key, probably) which he didn't manage to obey, and the same all
> over again. Then I remembered the update (TCS3) which he installed and then
> the other update and all went well. He told me he had given it a new
> license key (serial number) registered to my name. I hope for the best! And
> I really recommend those guys on the Adobe online support.
>
> But I think I am permanently giving up on Adobe. Nowadays they seem only
> to want your money. And a lot of it. Working now on probably my last FM
> project.
>
> Going for Affinity from now on, which seems fabulous software.
>
> That's all for now.
>
> Kind regards,
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[Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.

2021-08-10 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Hello all you great people!

Sorry for the (Adobe) rant.

Due to my laptop's old age I found myself needing a new pc, a desktop this
time. All is well with everything but Adobe FM. I recently tried to install
my FM12 which I had lost any info about, and got a categorical No Go from
Adobe Support (contradiction in terms).

However I managed to install my FM 10, legally bought with CD and all (for
two computers but only one using it at a time) and got it set up and
working OK. Only, when I tried to use it again, I got a message that it
needs activation with Adobe. I ended up contacting Adobe online support who
finally sent me an update and everything went well—for the time being.

Now, some 10-15 days later I started FM10, only to find that it wanted
activation with Adobe and I had 15 days until it would not be working at
all. At first it said, no Internet. Then it said I was connected and I
tried and I got the message that I had no internet connection and would
have to try again (and some other variation and try again.

The recommended webpage is of little or no help.

So finally I contacted Adobe online support. It took them approx. 90
minutes to figure it out. The product was too old for their databases. I
gave the guy access to my PC and he started digging. Finally I had to
uninstall and reinstall the FM upon which he sent me some kind of update
(license key, probably) which he didn't manage to obey, and the same all
over again. Then I remembered the update (TCS3) which he installed and then
the other update and all went well. He told me he had given it a new
license key (serial number) registered to my name. I hope for the best! And
I really recommend those guys on the Adobe online support.

But I think I am permanently giving up on Adobe. Nowadays they seem only to
want your money. And a lot of it. Working now on probably my last FM
project.

Going for Affinity from now on, which seems fabulous software.

That's all for now.

Kind regards,
Bodvar
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Re: [Framers] Welcome to the new FrameUsers List Mom

2021-07-09 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Thanks, Bernard and best of luck (and blessings!).
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson





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> Hurray!
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>   On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 at 1:03 PM, Carol J. Elkins
> wrote:   Hi everyone,
>
> I wanted to introduce you to the new FrameUsers List Mom. It is none
> other than  (drum roll please)...
>
> Bernard Aschwanden
>
> Already well known and well loved by many of us on the list, Bernard
> will be a great List Mom, and I have every confidence that he will
> maintain the integrity and quality of the listserv.
>
> I think the handover will go really smoothly, but if you do
> experience any bumps or anomalies, please let Bernard know. Email him
> at listad...@frameusers.com
>
> It has been such a pleasure working with you all. And it is YOU who
> make this list rock. Keep doing what you've been doing.
>
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Re: [Framers] can someone take the reins?

2021-06-27 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Hi y'all!

I am long retired and only use FM for some minor jobs from time to time.
This list — I have no words to express how much it has meant to me and how
professionally so many Framers come to the help of other Framers — for
free. The list has solved so many problems for me and I only hope that I
may have contributed just a bit to help others.

In the late 90ies I learned Linux with a guy (John White) and there I came
into the community of people that looked at helping others with their
learning was as natural as drinking water.

This list is in the same category. The only difference is that we are
dealing with expensive software. In cases like that you often don't get any
help for free.

So my most sincere thanks to Carol and Rick and all the others that have
been the administrators of this list and all the others that have offered
their valuable help. I only hope that someone will release them and
continue maintaining the list. I am also thankful for all the acquaintances
I have made through this list and the courses and conferences I was so
fortunate to be able to attend. Some of them have become my Facebook
friends I hold dear.

Best wishes to everyone,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Reykjavik, Iceland.




sun., 27. jún. 2021 kl. 21:04 skrifaði :

> I'm with Mike; thanks so much for making this list possible! I haven't
> used Frame for a few years and I know this would be an invaluable resource
> should I ever get back to Frame.
> Thank you!Best,Louise
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Mike Wickham 
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Sent: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 14:27:58 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Framers] can someone take the reins?
>
> I'd like to add my thanks to Carol and Rick for maintaining the list,
> and for their contributions to the list over the years. I'm retired now,
> so don't use FrameMaker much anymore, but I still follow the list and
> hope it keeps operating. It has been a great resource!
>
> Mike Wickham
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Re: [Framers] Help with setting up a paragraph tag in the TOC

2021-03-30 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Hi Steve,
Thanks and thanks for asking.

It was a great fun doing that job. I did three different layout versions
for different book sizes. Actually, it was the New Testament plus the
Psalms and the Proverbs, but it is the same amount of structured work.
However, I don't think there will be more upgrades for this since the Bible
is now available online and in audio as well, and this is what the young
people and the old ones who are losing eyesight want.

I have only been doing one or two small jobs a year now, and just now I am
doing a book of short stories (2-3 pages each, 80+ pages in all) which is
the product of a course some people are taking in Story writing techniques.
Just sent a first draft layout copy from the preliminary copy I was sent
today. Still waiting for the final copy. I am obliged to Lynne A. Price for
her suggestion regarding the TOC as I had to (well, actually, I wanted
to—not sure the buyer needs it!) merge three paragraph references into one
TOC Item. So, Lynne, if you are reading this, THANKS!

Brgds,
Bodvar




lau., 27. mar. 2021 kl. 19:21 skrifaði Steve Rickaby <
srick...@wordmongers.com>:

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>
> Great to know you're still around, Bodvar, senile or not :-)
>
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Re: [Framers] Help with setting up a paragraph tag in the TOC

2021-03-12 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Ti Tammy,
Are you forgetting <$paranum> before <$paratext>?
Kind regards,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson (in the Senile group!)





fim., 11. mar. 2021 kl. 23:27 skrifaði :

> OK,
>
>
>
> Please have pity on my senior mind. It's been sooo long since I
> have had to set certain formats up from scratch in Framemaker, that I am
> just going bonkers trying to remember how I did something before. Here's my
> current conundrum:
>
>
>
> On the first page of each chapter, I have the following tags:
>
> 1.  ChapterNumber, with the numbering set to N:Chapter <$chapnum>. At
> the book level, I set Chapter Numbering to 1 for the first chapter in the
> book, and Continue numbering from previous chapter for all subsequent
> chapters. The tag is set to start at the top of a page.
> 2.  ChapterTitle, which immediately follows ChapterNumber, and is set
> to
> Keep with Previous Paragraph.
>
>
>
>
>
> In each of my chapters in a book, I have Sections. The Sections are denoted
> with a special master page layout that is different from the first page of
> the chapter. On this page, I use several paragraph tags including the
> following:
>
> 1.  Section Number, with the numbering set to the following: S:Section
> . The tag is set to start at the top of a page.
> 2.  Section Title. This is the tag that immediately follows
> SectionNumber. This tag is set to keep with the previous paragraph.
>
> At the book level, I have paragraph tag numbering to start over for each
> chapter, so the first time I use SectionNumber in a chapter, it is
> numbering
> correctly as Section 1, and then followed by Section 2, etc.
>
>
>
> For my TOC, I have selected the requisite tags, including ChapterTitle and
> SectionTitle.
>
> 1.  For my ChapterTitleTOC tag, here is the format:  Chapter
> <$chapnum>:
> <$paratext>. . . . .<$pagenum> and I get the following output for example:
> Chapter 1: Wiggle the Widget. . . . . . 17.
>
>
>
> I need to set up an analogous SectionTitleTOC tag : Section 1: Section
> Title
> contents, Section 2: Section Title contents, etc., and I guess I am missing
> the boat on this one. I can go through all the iterations that I have
> tried,
> but no matter what I try, I wind up with the following:
>
>
>
> Section:  .
>
>
>
> I cannot get the section number to show up after the word "Section" like I
> can for ChapterTitle. I am sure it's because the <$chapnum> is a book-level
> variable vs. paragraph tag numbering for SectionNumber, but I am at a loss
> to understand any further.  If any of you gurus out there can point me to
> what I am doing wrong, and provide some insight, I would be most
> appreciative. I had this working ages ago in another manual, but that
> manual
> is no longer in my possession, so I can't refer to it for clarification.
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
>
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>
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Re: [Framers] Oh for the Good Old Days

2020-10-29 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

I had to increase the settings for my displays to 120% so I could read
(with my glasses) my FM12. However this increase had some other effects on
FM12 which I just have to live with.
Everything nowadays seems to be made for the 20 years old with 2020
eyesight! Mustn't we, the seniors, go for a protest rally in Silicon Valley
and Redmond?
Otherwise I like the 12 a lot. Rocksolid. All my previoust versions have
crashed from time to time, but the 12 almost never.

Hope you find your solution.

Kindest of regards,
Bodvar







mán., 5. okt. 2020 kl. 12:31 skrifaði Steve Rickaby <
srick...@wordmongers.com>:

> Hello Framers
>
> The last time I used FrameMaker in anger (to typeset a book) was six years
> ago. I did it in FrameMaker 7 for Mac, under Classic, on a 2003 Apple Mac.
>
> Just recently I fired up FrameMaker 12 (the most recent version I have or
> ever will have) to typeset a simple document. Oh my, what a hassle! Try as
> I would I could not get paragraph formats to 'stick', or to override
> paragraph formats that the app seemed to have unilaterally invented for
> itself. Even importing formats from a 'good' document didn't work. And now
> that my eyesight is poorer, I searched in vain for a setting to make the
> text in pods bigger. Or a way to get them to stay on the left side of the
> screen, as I'm left-handed.
>
> This is absolutely not a request for assistance, just a howl of regret for
> what was. I took FrameMaker 7 on Mac to the level of setting up a
> semi-automated structured writing environment for a team of authors, the
> documentation for which ran to 70+ pages. I am heartily glad I don't have
> to do anything like that in a current version. (And yes I know that
> FrameMaker 12 is far from current, but from what I've read here things are
> little better now.)
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Re: [Framers] Cobol - Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-13 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

COBOL seemed to me to be just the right thing for bookkeeping. I learned a
bit about it in the early 80s. One of my first programming experiences
(which I never had any use for). This and other attempts to programming
helped me enormously in understanding and creating EDDs.

Cheers.
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> I was going to share this too.
>
> Maybe tsomeone is looking for  a position even
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:06 PM Robert Lauriston 
> wrote:
>
> > In related news:
> >
> > "Literally, we have systems that are 40-plus-years-old," New Jersey Gov.
> > > Murphy said over the weekend. "There'll be lots of postmortems and one
> of
> > > them on our list will be how did we get here where we literally needed
> > > COBOL programmers?"
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Framers] Nostalgia - was Re: FrameMaker 2015

2020-04-02 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Thanks for this insight.
Bodvar





fim., 2. apr. 2020 kl. 17:09 skrifaði Frank Stearns :

> In 1990 or so I'd just completed migrating some 6000 pages of DEC RNO
> (with pieces of UNIX Troff tossed in) over to LaTeX for my primary
> client of the day (Aptec Systems, a Floating Point Systems spin-off
> who made high-speed I/O computers. We're talking large fractions of a
> million dollars systems (multi-millions for the "big" systems) whose
> then fantastic bus speeds are today dwarfed by that $500 laptop at
> Best Buy or Walmart.)
>
> One of the engineers had a copy of FM 1.3 on his Sun 3/50
> invited me to have a look. I was not impressed -- at all. (By that
> time, while mostly hating it, I could get LaTeX to sit up, roll-over,
> and play dead -- which it did do from time to time with no prompting.)
>
> Months later, that same engineer showed me FM 2.1. Wow. Now we're
> getting somewhere, as I'd just battled through Ventura Publisher's
> endless bugs on a project for another client.
>
> I'm not exactly sure how the decision was made, but Aptec shifted over
> to FrameMaker 2.1 (which cost money) from LaTeX which was "free". It
> might have had something to do with LaTeX bringing even the newer "hot
> rod" DEC microvaxes to their knees when I ran a job. The engineers
> would march around my cubical with torches chanting curses, while
> the system manager scrambled to find resources to handle all the
> usual product cycle crunch conditions -- doc releases parallel with
> product releases.
>
> Aptec was also shifting over to more of those new-fangled SUN
> workstations, which were completely independent of the VAXes. "Good!
> Kick that tech-writer P-I-A over onto the UNIX systems!" The guys were
> all s happy that LaTeX was no longer crippling their main
> development platforms. (They finally stopped blaming me personally.)
>
> But it did mean yet another migration of those 1000s of pages of docs
> from LaTeX over to FM. I got pretty handy with MIF and MML (remember
> MML?). Other conversion help came from macros in MS WORD-for-DOS
> (perhaps the only Word version that was worthwhile; much more reliable
> than word for windows) and lots of fun with the text processing power
> of UNIX and even similar command line functions in VMS.
>
> FM 3.0 really started to "open up the world" and provided a whole new
> look and feel to the documents, and was so much easier to use. For its
> day "Best Looking/most functional" FM version award probably goes to
> FM3 on monochrome Sunview.
>
> Having cut my teeth on embedded-format command word-processors and
> typesetters in the mid-1970s, WYSIWYG systems always seemed to be
> something of a sham, especially when they were so prone to bugs and
> crashes, such as that Ventura project revealed.
>
> But I made my declaration at FM 2.1 that FM was the FIRST WYSIWYG
> system that actually made sense and lived up to the promises of such
> systems, and did so (mostly) with reliability and elegance, and
> certainly for a reasonable price and licensing scheme when compared to
> the competitors, such as Interleaf.
>
> FM4 brought along that wonderful table editor and the API. Woo hoo!
> Now we could have some real fun. Our flagship product, IXgen, was
> born, and became highly popular. Other fun FM aids (born a little
> earlier) caught the attention of multiple people, including some folks
> at Cisco Systems who had been offered a seat on Frame's newly-formed
> Customer Advisory Board.
>
> To their credit (and unknown to me at the time) Cisco told FM that
> they certainly had enough "large customer" representation on the board
> (Boeing, BEA Systems, US Army [IIRC] among others) but they lacked any
> "small user" representation. That's when my name came up and I was
> invited to join the board to represent independents and contractors
> who used FM. Unfortunately, the board went away when Adobe purchased
> Frame Technologies.
>
> (For more "museum" stories, visit fsatools.com; select "FSA
> Resources", Early Products.)
>
> More fun as the years ticked by and my company pivoted from tech pubs
> to software products, mostly for FM.
>
> The landscape now is quite different; few folks do indexing any more.
> "Just google it" is the new mantra. This is okay for me; I can slide
> into semi-retirement and support the IXgen users who are still active.
> Thanks to all present and past users of our products.
>
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Re: [Framers] News about the FrameMaker history

2019-08-19 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Thanks. Great to have this.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






mán., 19. ágú. 2019 kl. 12:18 skrifaði Lin Sims :

> Very cool. Please tell him thank you, from a FrameMaker fan.
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 6:25 AM Klaus Daube  wrote:
>
> > Friends of FrameMaker,
> >
> > Today I got a mail from David Hemmendinger (Associate Editor-in-chief,
> > IEEE Annals of
> > the History of Computing) with two corrections for my web-page about FM's
> > history.
> >
> > The wonderful surplus of this mail is the link to the full article by
> > David Murray on
> > the history of FrameMaker. The article
> > (http://walden-family.com/david-murray/frame-posted.pdf) will will
> appear
> > in the 2019
> > July-Sept issue of the IEEE Annals of the History of Computing
> > (http://www.computer.org/csdl/magazine/an).
> >
> > For the first time we have genuine information about the early days of
> FM.
> > Klaus
> > ~~
> > Klaus Daube Phone:  +41-44-381 37 77
> > Schäracher 11   Mail:   kl...@daube.ch
> > CH-8053 Zürich  Web:www.daube.ch
> >
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Re: [Framers] Retired

2018-11-26 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Well, now you're getting busy. I have almost never been so busy as after I
retired!!!. Still using my FrameMaker! (Among a lot of other stuff!)
Enjoy!

Bodvar






mán., 26. nóv. 2018 kl. 16:23 skrifaði Keith Soltys :

> As of last Wednesday, I am now retired, courtesy of a sudden but not
> entirely unexpected lay off from the TMX Group (basically the Toronto
> Stock Exchange) where I've been for the last seventeen years. This will
> likely end any further use of FrameMaker on my part, as I won't be
> looking for full-time work again.
>
> I'd like to thank everyone on this list and in the Frame community for
> their help over the years. This list has been a great resource and I
> hope I've been able to pay some of it back.
>
> Regards
>
> Keith
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Re: [Framers] HTML

2018-10-01 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

You will never have the same fonts in HTML in every browser, even if you
stick to Arial. The thing in HTML is to set up alternatives in font use. I
don't know if it is possible in any automation in FM, but generally it is
set in the CSS.
Cheers,
Bodvar





mán., 1. okt. 2018 kl. 16:51 skrifaði Robert Lauriston :

> That's a general issue with HTML. You don't know what fonts readers
> will have installed on their computers.
>
> Read up on web-safe fonts and the CSS font-family property.
>
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:41 AM Doug  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the advice on using File > Publish, the Responsive HTML5
> results
> > are much better than the alternative I was using.  However, I noticed
> that
> > some fonts we use end up getting substituted, so the web version looks
> > visibly different from the PDF.   I've been making changes on the Style
> > Mapping tab, but there's no way to add new fonts.  We use the family of
> > Univers Next Pro.
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Re: [Framers] Line spacing

2018-08-21 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Hi Doug.
Set the line spacing to "fixed".
Brgds,
Bodvar





2018-08-21 16:57 GMT+00:00 Doug :

> Sometimes a paragraph's line spacing can be disrupted by superscript
> or subscript characters, or descenders, or even by the bullets of a
> bulleted list.
>
> What's the best practice for fixing this?
>
> It bugs me when the first two lines of a paragraph have more space
> between them than do the subsequent lines.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [Framers] Fwd: Non-breaking en, em dashes

2018-07-05 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

You know, there is a slight difference between en-dash and the minus sign
(dash). The minus dash has a slight space (maybe half or whole thin space)
at each side of it.

Bodvar





2018-07-06 0:15 GMT+00:00 Böðvar Björgvinsson :

> The font has to support UTF8, of course! :-)
>
> Bodvar
>
>
>
>
>
> 2018-07-05 18:37 GMT+00:00 Robert Lauriston :
>
>> I've had problems with that when the character I was inserting was not
>> available in the current font. If I remember right, FrameMaker
>> silently grabs the character from another font and applies direct
>> formatting?
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Böðvar Björgvinsson 
>> Date: Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Non-breaking en, em dashes
>> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
>> 
>>
>> You can also use the minus sign (Unicode8) U+2212. That works.
>> FM is not very handy at making it easy but you can add it using the
>> Windows
>> Character Map or the FM Utilities > Hex Input.users.com
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Re: [Framers] Fwd: Non-breaking en, em dashes

2018-07-05 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

The font has to support UTF8, of course! :-)

Bodvar





2018-07-05 18:37 GMT+00:00 Robert Lauriston :

> I've had problems with that when the character I was inserting was not
> available in the current font. If I remember right, FrameMaker
> silently grabs the character from another font and applies direct
> formatting?
>
> -- Forwarded message ------
> From: Böðvar Björgvinsson 
> Date: Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Non-breaking en, em dashes
> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
> 
>
> You can also use the minus sign (Unicode8) U+2212. That works.
> FM is not very handy at making it easy but you can add it using the Windows
> Character Map or the FM Utilities > Hex Input.users.com
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Re: [Framers] Non-breaking en, em dashes

2018-07-05 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

You can also use the minus sign (Unicode8) U+2212. That works.
FM is not very handy at making it easy but you can add it using the Windows
Character Map or the FM Utilities > Hex Input.

My 2 bits.

Cheers,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






2018-07-05 18:02 GMT+00:00 Lin Sims :

> Update on this. I got an email from Adobe yesterday morning that the status
> was changed from Open to In Test.
>
> We may have a fix RSN.
>
> Also, I believe that the latest FrameMaker update has fixed the RGB/CMYK
> bug.
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:33 PM, Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > Used to be if you put an en dash in front of something with no space
> > between, the en dash would stick to the something if it wrapped to the
> next
> > line.
> >
> > It doesn't do that anymore, which is bad for me as I use it instead of a
> > hyphen to indicate negative numbers. This has been reported as a bug to
> > Adobe, but until they fix it (soon? please?), is there a *trivial
> *solution/workaround?
> > (By trivial, I mean minimal number of steps and time involved.)
> >
> > For those interested, the bug is here: https://forums.adobe.
> > com/thread/2459590
> >
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> >
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Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-18 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Mike,
Thanks. Good to know! :-)

Bodvar





On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 4:46 PM, Mike Wickham <i...@mikewickham.com> wrote:

> If you're going to convert to Word from PDF, you might want to used tagged
> PDF for the conversion. Original PDF was not interested in the data, only
> its position. PDFs purpose is page layout. The idea of PDF is to create a
> document that looks exactly the same on every computer screen, with no
> changes due to text flow, installed fonts, window size, etc. Consequently,
> it stores data in very strange ways. Words aren't necessarily stored as
> words, or paragraphs as paragraphs. The phrase "text frame" might be stored
> as "te," "xtf," "r," and "ame" objects, for example, and PDF tracks which
> font and where to draw these bits of text. It's weird that the text blocks
> that are created by PDF, and the visible order of them, might even be
> stored in a different order in the file. So trying to put these objects
> back into proper order for conversion to other formats may not work well.
>
> Anyway, as I recall, using tagged PDF causes the PDF to actually store
> paragraphs as paragraph blocks, etc. So, reconstructing the data in a
> proper way for conversion from PDF to Word should be better.
>
> Mike Wickham
>
> On 4/18/2018 5:29 AM, Böðvar Björgvinsson wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>> Not tagged. Never do that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Mike Wickham <i...@mikewickham.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Bodvar,
>>>
>>> It might depend on whether the PDF was saved as tagged PDF or not.
>>>
>>> Mike Wickham
>>>
>>> On 4/17/2018 12:35 PM, Böðvar Björgvinsson wrote:
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-18 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Mike,
Not tagged. Never do that.





On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Mike Wickham <i...@mikewickham.com> wrote:

> Bodvar,
>
> It might depend on whether the PDF was saved as tagged PDF or not.
>
> Mike Wickham
>
> On 4/17/2018 12:35 PM, Böðvar Björgvinsson wrote:
>
>> Peter Gold,
>> pdf-ed by printing book from FM 2013 to file, then distilling. In Acrobat
>> Save as Word. My only guess is that this font is a bit more exaggerated
>> serif than the standard Times (etc.) and the font size was only 10 pt.
>> Also,  it seemed to create a text frame on each page for the contents.
>>
>> Bodvar
>>
>>
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Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-17 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Peter Gold,
pdf-ed by printing book from FM 2013 to file, then distilling. In Acrobat
Save as Word. My only guess is that this font is a bit more exaggerated
serif than the standard Times (etc.) and the font size was only 10 pt.
Also,  it seemed to create a text frame on each page for the contents.

Bodvar





On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Peter Gold <peter@petergold.photography>
wrote:

> This reminds me of a story I heard back when edlin, an early text editor
> had been left in the dust by newer tools. Allegedly, an engineer wrote a
> 60-page document using edlin, since it was the only tool he knew then. It
> just proves that stick-to-it-ness has some value.
>
> As to one-word-per-line, hmmm… Some English-centric folks think that
> "foreign" languages have too many long words anyway.
>
> Seriously, is there any clue to the problem? You mentioned Word->PDF. What
> tool(s) were used to create the PDF? What was the source document's
> creator? A font issue, perhaps?
>
> Just curious.
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Böðvar Björgvinsson <bod...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I just tried to save a 200 page pdf to Word in Acrobat X Pro and almost
> all
> > word spaces disappeared (10pt/14 Esprit font), so I had just one very
> long
> > word for each line, more or less. Saving to rtf worked fine and I was
> able
> > to spellcheck my Icelandic (not supported by FM yet) document in
> > LibreOffice Writer, which, BTW, uses HunSpell, same as Adobe!
> >
> > Just my dime.
> > Brgds,
> > Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
> >
> >
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Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

2018-04-17 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

I just tried to save a 200 page pdf to Word in Acrobat X Pro and almost all
word spaces disappeared (10pt/14 Esprit font), so I had just one very long
word for each line, more or less. Saving to rtf worked fine and I was able
to spellcheck my Icelandic (not supported by FM yet) document in
LibreOffice Writer, which, BTW, uses HunSpell, same as Adobe!

Just my dime.
Brgds,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson





On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:57 PM, Jeff C  wrote:

> PDF to Word works, mostly.
>
> I was surprised the conversion of a 57MB PDF file successfully converted to
> Word.
>
> Graphics get scrambled however, so give a warning.
>
> I have a few SMEs who want a Word version to mark up. Ugh.
> I get comments about how bad the graphics are all the time...
>
> Jeff
> ++
> Major limitation, you can't save a whole book to RTF, only an individual
> .fm file.
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Re: [Framers] ANN: Coming Soon: ConvertDocs

2018-04-16 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Looks promising!

Brgds.
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson





On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Rick Quatro  wrote:

> Hi Framers,
>
>
>
> I will be releasing a brand-new script this week:
>
>
>
> http://frameautomation.com/coming-soon-convertdocs/
>
>
>
> Also, I am extending my tax sale through tomorrow:
>
>
>
> http://www.frameexpert.com/store/
>
>
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
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> 585-366-4017
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Re: [Framers] Creating live transparency in PDFs using FrameMaker

2018-02-02 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Thanks.





On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 3:07 AM, Michael Heine  wrote:

> The free and legal download (incl. serial key) of CS2 is still available -
> not the youngest kid on the block, but with ID 2 which handles
> transparencies no problem.
> https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/cs2-product-downlo
> ads.html?promoid=19SCDRQK
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 09:26:10 +
>> From: B??var Bj?rgvinsson 
>> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Creating live transparency in PDFs using
>> FrameMaker
>> Message-ID:
>> > ail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> Not quite, you have to pay every month for a year = $360. Not cheap when
>> you only need it for maybe one or two months of work.
>>
>>
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Re: [Framers] Creating live transparency in PDFs using FrameMaker

2018-02-01 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

I'll have to check it out then. :-)






On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 5:12 PM, Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
wrote:

> A single-month subscription to InDesign is $30. An annual subscription
> is $240, which you can pay monthly if you prefer.
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 1:26 AM, Böðvar Björgvinsson <bod...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Not quite, you have to pay every month for a year = $360. Not cheap when
> > you only need it for maybe one or two months of work.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You can get InDesign for a month for $30.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Böðvar Björgvinsson <bod...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > ID: Exactly, but then you have to "own" a copy of ID—which I don't.
> ;-)
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Robert Lauriston <
> rob...@lauriston.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Seems to me like InDesign would be a more appropriate tool if you
> >> >> needed to do things like that.
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Re: [Framers] Creating live transparency in PDFs using FrameMaker

2018-02-01 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Not quite, you have to pay every month for a year = $360. Not cheap when
you only need it for maybe one or two months of work.





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> > ID: Exactly, but then you have to "own" a copy of ID—which I don't. ;-)
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Seems to me like InDesign would be a more appropriate tool if you
> >> needed to do things like that.
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Re: [Framers] Creating live transparency in PDFs using FrameMaker

2018-01-30 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

"Live transparency", in my view: fancy word for producing transparent
objects when printing to ps or "Save as" pdf. Does not work printing
directly to my HP OfficeJet Pro 8210. Maybe it can work if you have a
PostScript printer and know how to address its ps engine.
ID: Exactly, but then you have to "own" a copy of ID—which I don't. ;-)





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> What does "live transparency" mean? The term isn't explained in the PDF.
>
> Seems to me like InDesign would be a more appropriate tool if you
> needed to do things like that.
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Arnis  wrote:
> > Following up on a few queries/requests on Adobe's FrameMaker Forum, a
> tutorial on how to create live transparency in PDFs using all versions of
> FrameMaker has been posted at:
> > https://forums.adobe.com/docs/DOC-8271
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Re: [Framers] Creating live transparency in PDFs using FrameMaker

2018-01-29 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Thanks, Arnis Gubins.
This is really a Must-Read. So meticulously explained. I am only half way
through the paper and already have the solution to my problem (and several
other I would have liked to solve using this technique.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson





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> Following up on a few queries/requests on Adobe's FrameMaker Forum, a
> tutorial on how to create live transparency in PDFs using all versions of
> FrameMaker has been posted at:
> https://forums.adobe.com/docs/DOC-8271
> I hope you find this useful.
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> Forums - FrameMaker moderator
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Re: [Framers] Utility to handle FM dictioanries

2017-07-29 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Thank you, Klaus.

This information is extremely helpful. But for me to use it, I would need
the possibility to add a language is-IS, which, after many years of
requesting, I have given up requesting of Adobe. They seem not to care. Is
there any way to force it in?

Kind regards,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






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>Dear all,
>
>I want to hear Your comments on my new [1]utility to handle FrameMaker
>dictionaries (site, user, any text file).
>
>
>
>  * User interface to dense?
>  * Description to meager?
>  * Not required at all?
>  * ?
>
>Thanks for Your comments
>
>Klaus
>
>~~~
>~~
>
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>1. http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker77.html
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Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

2017-04-26 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Stefan,

Thanks for this overview.

While working for Air Atlanta Icelandic I had some use for point pages when
working with certain manuals, technical manuals and you had some deletions
or additions of contents to print and send. Later, working with a different
type of manuals where the staff could not be trusted to insert such pages
correctly, or not at all, I went for total updates and reissues in pdf or
printed as books (bound in some way or another).

I agree that the need for it today is limited, but still I think it should
not be removed.

Kind regards,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
retired (mostly)





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> Hi Framers,
>
> Klaus Daube reminded me a few days ago, that there are some "secret"
> features in FrameMaker, that are still present in the product today, but
> are no longer in the UI nor documented, especially "Freeze pagination" and
> "Open Heroic". I'm currently going through them and discuss them with the
> product managers and documentation team.
>
> So, one of these "secret features" is "Freeze pagination": It's still
> present in FM 2017 and can be accessed with Esc-p-z.
>
> For those who do not know the feature: Let's say you have a 100-page
> document with one text flow. On the master page you have a footer with a
> page count variable (<$curpagenum>). Now you can "freeze pagination" which
> will disconnect all text frames (that is, you get 100 disconnected pages
> with a Text Flow "A"). Now you can add new disconnected pages between other
> pages (called "point pages"). Or if you are at the end of a page and add
> new content, a new page is added right next to the current page with a
> connect text frame to the previous page. The page number will show a "point
> page number" (e.g. when you add pages after page 7, they will be numbered
> as 7.1, 7.2 etc.).
> The idea of this feature back in the days was to create "revision pages"
> ("point pages").
>
> That said, I understand how the feature works, but in more than 20 years I
> have never used it myself (never had a use case for it) nor met anyone ever
> using it and all people I have asked in the last days who know this feature
> told me the same (never had a use case).
>
> My question to you:
> - Has anyone ever used this feature when it was still present in the UI
> many versions back?
> - Is anyone still using it?
> - What is the use case scenario that you can think of where it still might
> be useful?
>
> Your feedback will help us to have a new look at this feature and discuss
> what to do with it (bring it back to the UI and document it or keep it
> hidden or maybe even remove it).
>
> Looking forward to your feedback,
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Re: [Framers] Anyone have any spiffy FM resume templates?

2017-03-18 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Would you like to look at my version (FM10)? I got the idea from some FM
template and remodeled the document (not as template, though).
http://bodvar.is/Files/ResumeBB201311.pdf
http://bodvar.is/Files/ResumeBB201311.fm
It is in Icelandic. If anyone is interested but unsure how to use it I can
translate the basics.

Hope it helps.

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson





On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 4:28 PM, FrameUsers Admin 
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> Frameusers, I've added Lin SIms' resume template to the FrameUsers.com
> site. You can find it here:
> http://www.frameusers.com/tasks/
>
> While you are there, look around the site. I believe you can find just
> about everything you'll need for Frame-related work. If you can't, please
> let me know off-list and we'll figure out how to add it to the site.
>
> Carol Elkins
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> At 11:52 AM 3/15/2017, you wrote:
>
>> I've put in a request to Carol to see if she'd be willing to host it on
>> the Framers site. In all honesty, all I really did was take the two formats
>> that Adobe created and melded them together to suit my tastes.
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[Framers] Adobe PhoneGap

2016-11-21 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Hi everyone,

Does anyone here have any knowledge of the Adobe PhoneGap and how to set it
up. I haven't seen any discussion on it here.

I was trying for the first time to publish to Mobile App where this
PhoneGap seems to be needed. The info is rather meager on how to set it up.
I downloaded the thing and and the app for my android phone and still I am
asked for credentials which I cannot find out how to get.

Respectfully,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Iceland
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker (2015 release) Update 5 available now!

2016-10-04 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Dear Jain Abhishek,

Thank you for these links. It woke me up! I hadn't made a single update.

Regards,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson.





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> Hello Framers,
>
> I'm happy to announce the fifth update to FrameMaker (2015 release).
>
> For a complete overview of all of enhancements and issues fixed in
> FrameMaker (2015 release), Update 1, Update 2, Update 3, Update 4 and
> Update 5 please refer to the release notes framemaker/kb/resolved-issues-framemaker-2015.html>.
>
> The update is available through Adobe Update Manager (AUM): Please check
> for the updates in FrameMaker's menu > Help > Updates.
>
> It is also available for download from FrameMaker Support Center<
> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?
> product=22=Windows>.
>
> A big thanks all of those who submitted feature enhancements and bug
> reports. It will be our endeavor to release these updates on a continuous
> basis to meet the needs of our customers. Please do keep your feedback
> coming.
>
> Regards,
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Re: [Framers] updates to Frameusers.com--New Techniques page

2016-09-06 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Dear Carol,

I haven't visited the site in a long time. You (possibly with the help of
some others?) have done a GREAT job. This is THE FM site! I'll be visiting
it often from now on.

Thank you,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson





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> techniques for using FrameMaker. I've created a new page on the
> frameusers.com site to house these gems. If anyone else has something to
> contribute, please email me off-list.
>
> http://www.frameusers.com/tasks/
>
> The frameUsers.com site is becoming the best resource available for Frame
> users. I'm trying to make everything easy to find and accessible. Other
> updates to the site include handy downloadable PDFs showing the content of
> each of the FrameMaker template packs (provided by Alison Craig) (
> http://www.frameusers.com/tools/) and more documentation on how to
> customize Frame 12/13 by Klaus Daube (http://www.frameusers.com/doc
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[Framers] Zapf Dingbats and some other Type 1 fonts

2016-02-01 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

There is a weird behaviour in FM2015 (Windows10) regarding some Type1
fonts. For a time FM has been rendering them correctly but lately I have
experienced FM to suddenly and out of the blue stop showing the correct
font and substituting it for a different one, still maintaining that it is
the Zapf Dingbat (or other Type 1) font.

I have not been aware of any upgrades in FM, but I wonder whether upgrades
in Win10 have made any changes so that FM chooses to substitute the font
without warning. What I get instead of Zapf Dingbats is the reglular
Wingdings.

I have tried some tricks suggested in similar cases (not quite the same,
though) without luck.

Any comments?

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
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Re: . PDF query

2014-10-20 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Since I started seriously learning FrameMaker (7.0) I have always been
advised against using SaveAs PDF but instead print to file using whatever
the name has been each version of the Adobe PostScript printer engine.
Takes af few more clicks but saves a lot of trouble.

Still do it several versions higher.

Regards,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson





On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Davis, David 
david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com wrote:

 Dennis,
 You're not the first person to report this problem.
 I doubt you're doing anything wrong, it's just FrameMaker being buggy.
 I'd encourage you to report it at Adobe's bug report page
 https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform


 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:31:14 +
 From: Denis Daly d.d...@icpnewtech.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: PDF query
 Message-ID:
 
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 Hi,

 My name is Denis Daly. I have recently started using FrameMaker.

 I have had an odd issue today. I saved an individual chapter as a PDF and
 about 40% of the images were not present. They are available in the
 'Graphics' folder.

 I resaved and the same thing happened.

 I then saved a third time but selected RGB instead of CYMK; all images
 were present.

 I am using FM 12 with the recent update installed.

 Can anyone explain this behaviour, please?


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Re: My work-flow for dealing with backups from FrameMaker--getting rid of backups

2014-09-16 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Hi Jamie,

You could also add a couple of lines to the script:
cd to the drive you copy to, and from there
del the .bat file.

Cheers,

Bodvar






On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Jaime Zuniga jzun...@protranslating.com
wrote:

  Hi Amy,



 I have been messing around with your batch file idea but I am having an
 issue with it.



 I want to create a batch file to copy all files in the current directory
 EXCEPT for the actual batch file, and no matter what I do using the copy
 command it simply does not work. So, do you know how I can exclude the .bat
 file when copying files?



 Thanks in advance,

 Jaime





 *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Sharp, Amy
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:20 AM
 *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* RE: My work-flow for dealing with backups from
 FrameMaker--getting rid of backups



 I like having backups available in case of crashes or other emergencies,
 so I don’t want to turn them off. As it’s also my habit to save different
 “versions” of an active FrameMaker project in different folders, backups
 are only required for those emergencies.



 That makes a lot of clutter in the folder for my FM files, and there are
 times I need to see my files without the clutter. Deleting or moving
 backups is not easy if you have lots of files; you can reorder the files
 any way you like but the backups stay glued to their parent FM files.



 To get rid of the backups temporarily, I wrote an old-fashioned batch
 (BAT) file that moves backup files to a folder on my C: drive (FM_Backup)
 and then deletes the log file. It takes only a few seconds to run, and
 leaves a pristine view of the FM files.



 IMPORTANT: This only works when FrameMaker is closed because FM
 automatically regenerates backup files as soon as you touch an open file.



 The code I use is below. You can modify it to delete the files instead of
 moving them, change the backup folder name, get rid of the log deletion,
 whatever you’d like.



 1.   In Notepad or another text editor, copy the following lines:



 Move *.backup.fm C:\\FM_Backup

 Move *.backup.book C:\\FM_Backup

 pause

 Del *.log

 pause

 Exit



 2.   Save the file as “FM_backup.bat” or any other name as long as it
 has a BAT extension.

 3.   Create a backup folder on your C drive called “FM_Backup.”
 You can name this folder anything as long as it matches the folder name in
 the BAT file.

 4.   Copy or move the BAT file into the same folder as your working
 FrameMaker files.
 IMPORTANT: You must insert a separate copy of the BAT file into every
 folder that contains your FrameMaker files.

 5.   To run, double-click “FM_backup.bat.”
 The pauses stop the program to provide feedback as it moves the files.

 6.   Don’t forget to delete the backup files when they are no longer
 needed, as the backup folder gets bloated quickly.



 I especially like using this when I save different “versions” of an
 ongoing project. When I open a folder containing an earlier version, I only
 see the project files.



 The code uses the simple DOS commands move, delete, pause, and exit. It
 doesn’t save multiple versions of backups or work from any location except
 where the FM files are stored, but you could get fancy if you’re inspired
 to take this to another level.



 *Amy Sharp*

 Geophysical Technical Writer

 ConocoPhillips Co.

 Work: 281-293-1819

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Re: Best practices for converting FM to Robohelp

2014-09-05 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Hi Apurva,

Always set Explorer to show file extensions. It makes life so much easier
for Framers! :-)

Glad you solved your problem.

Brgds,






On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Apurva Bahadur apu...@writxt.com wrote:

 Fellow Framers,

 Problem solved after some investigation, although I cannot understand the
 entire process.
 *Problem*


- While editing, I created the various FM files by renaming and saving
the complete file as the next file, deleting the existing stuff and editing
new content on the page.
- Somewhere in the process, one FM file got corrupted and ended with
the extension '.backup' instead of '.fm.'
- Due to 'save as' process, all the subsequent files had the '.backup'
extension.
- Even on corruption, these .backup extension files were visible in
the FM book. I could open, edit and create perfect pdf outputs of the FM
book.
- However, Robohelp refused to recognize the files with .backup
extension and made a CHM containing only the files with proper .fm
extension.
- This resulted in an incomplete CHM, and a growing sense of helpless
panic...

 *Solution*

- I opened the corrupted files from within FM book and saved them by a
different name. I checked in the Windows explored that the copy of the
files were saved with the proper .fm extension.
- I added the renamed files to the book and deleted the corrupted
files from the book.That was all to it.

 I couldn't have solved this problem from within Framemaker itself as the
 book showed the corrupted files as normal FM files - I would open edit and
 save them without any indication of an error. So, when black magic starts
 to happen, please check the extensions of files in Windows explorer!

 Any idea why FM book could open a file with .backup extension?  Probably
 .backup are valid FM files, as these display a smaller version of the
 Framemaker icon in the Windows explorer.



 *Regards,Apurva*



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Re: Mif2Go, DITA2Go, uDoc2Go: now open source

2014-07-27 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Warmest thanks to all involved! I used Mif2Go a lot with my FM7 but never
had the excuse to spend money on my FM10 so this is a great gift indeed!








On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Carolyn Stallard cstall...@omsys.com
wrote:

 FrameMaker plug-in Mif2Go is available for download, at no charge:
 http://mif2go.com

 Join the new Mif2Go list:
 https://groups.yahoo.com/group/mif2go

 DITA2Go is available for download:
 http://dita2go.com

 Join the new DITA2Go list:
 https://groups.yahoo.com/group/dita2go

 uDoc2Go has not yet been released; read about uDoc and this new processor:
 http://udoc2go.com

 Join the new uDoc2Go list:
 https://groups.yahoo.com/group/udoc2go

 Omni Systems is closed.  As Jeremy Griffith wished, source code will be
 made available for all three software tools.  Scott Prentice has very
 kindly agreed to set up projects for this purpose on SourceForge.  Scott
 has already set up a list as a gathering place for people interested in
 helping with maintenance and development, so we can communicate in
 preparation for the move to SourceForge. For example, we might discuss
 whether to use SVN or GIT.  If you wish to help, please join:

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Re: Conditional cells in a straddled table row

2014-06-30 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Hi Samantha,

I fought with this several years ago and found that the only way to get the
results you want is to make the whole row conditional.

This could probably be done through a script if making the row conditional
is not a practical option.

For what it's worth,

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 wrote:

 Hi all,

 I wonder if any of you could help me.

 I have a table with 3 columns and 5 rows. Columns 1 and 2 have all 5 rows
 straddled. Column 3 contains all 5 rows separately. The last entry in
 column 3 contains conditional text:

*| Column 1 | Column 2 | Column 3*
 Row A | Cell 1A | Cell 2A |* Cell 3A*
 Row B |||* Cell 3B*
 Row C |||
 * Cell 3C*
 Row D |    ||* Cell 3D*
 Row E *||| Cell 3E*

 I am unable to make all of Row E conditional as I've straddled Cell 1A,
 and Cell 2A over it respectively. This means when I hide my conditional
 text, Cell 3E, my table is left with an blank row.

 Is there a way of getting around this?? I experimented with having Row E
 unstraddled but I was unable to change the borders for that row. I may have
 been looking in the wrong places!

 In reality, this is a large table and I have this scenario repeated at
 various points, so I would like to avoid changing the layout where
 possible, but am resigned to the fact that I may have to.

 Any help you can give would be appreciated.

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Re: Jeremy Griffith has left us

2014-06-11 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Thank you, John, for letting us know.
My prayers are with his loved ones.

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 computer work. He worked up until a few days before he died. He loved his
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Re: I am still hunting for HunSpell dictionaries in FrameMaker11...

2014-03-12 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

I have received a negative reply, but I haven't tried this myself. Not had
the time, really.
But this should be really easy as in OpenOffice, LibreOffice etc.

Brgds,
Bodvar

On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Simon BUCH simon.b...@m-ais.com wrote:

Dear Framers,

I am on the hunt for learning how to integrate HunSpell dictionaries into
FrameMaker 11, for languages such as Icelandic.

According to the FrameMaker 11 Upgrade Guide:

http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/products/framemaker/pdf/FRAMEMAKER11_UPGRADE_GUIDE.PDF
Hunspell dictionary is available, as is Configurable dictionary
support.
I guess these features mean that Adobe provides the dictionaries, and
you can select whether you want to want to use the HunSpell, or the
Proximity version dictionaries.

I took a look at the InDesign help page:
http://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/kb/add_cs_dictionaries.html
and so I created my is_IS folder in:
C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Adobe\Linguistics\6.2\Providers\Plugins2\AdobeHunspellPlugin\Dictionaries\
and in which I copied my is_IS.aff and is_IS.dic files.
I then added the stringis_IS/string text into the Spelling Service
section of the Info.plist file.

Is there anything I'm missing?
or ... *Does anyone know if it is possible to integrate new HunSpell
dictionaries into FrameMaker11?*

// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS

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FM 11 on Ebay

2014-02-12 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Just thought I should let you know that there is on Ebay FM11 for just over
US$ 400, never registered, it states.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adobe-FrameMaker-11-for-Windows-Full-Retail-Version-New-Sealed-Box-PN-65187484/231154480304?_trksid=p2047675.m1982_trkparms=aid%3D333005%26algo%3DRIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D177%26meid%3D4779844706499675278%26pid%3D19%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D331125745850%26

Seems all legit.

Brgds,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
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FM12: SaveAs PDF not showing Dingbats in Ref pages

2014-02-02 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Hi all,
I always use print to file and distill from there. Today I was playing
with the new FM12 creating a small newsletter. There was one heading that
needed a dingbat above which I created, and it showed OK in FM12. But when
saving as PDF it just did not show in the pdf file. I tried this in several
ways but finally did as I always do and printed the fm to file and
distilled from there. Now the dingbat showed.

So, still the SaveAs PDF is buggy and not to rely on, it seems.

Best regards,
Bodvar
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Merry Christmas

2013-12-24 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Dear friends and colleagues on the FrameUsers List,

I wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year.
And thank you for all the wonderful help you are providing through this
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Merry Christmas

2013-12-23 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Dear friends and colleagues on the FrameUsers List,

I wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year.
And thank you for all the wonderful help you are providing through this
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Re: InDesign to FrameMaker 9.0 for Windows 7

2013-11-16 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Which, once again, gives support to the speculation of Adobe wanting to get
rid of FM. :-(

Brgds,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Steve Rickaby 
srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote:

 At 11:13 -0800 12/11/13, David Creamer wrote:

 There is no direct conversion of ID to Frame. (There is a Frame to ID
 conversion, however.)

 Ah... maybe that was what I was thinking about: sorry...

 At 10:14 -0800 12/11/13, Robert Lauriston wrote:

 There's a FrameMaker  MIF  InDesign converter.

 ... or maybe not.

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InDesign to FrameMaker 9.0 for Windows 7

2013-11-16 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Which, once again, gives support to the speculation of Adobe wanting to get
rid of FM. :-(

Brgds,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Steve Rickaby <
srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> At 11:13 -0800 12/11/13, David Creamer wrote:
>
> >There is no direct conversion of ID to Frame. (There is a Frame to ID
> >conversion, however.)
>
> Ah... maybe that was what I was thinking about: sorry...
>
> At 10:14 -0800 12/11/13, Robert Lauriston wrote:
>
> >There's a FrameMaker > MIF > InDesign converter.
>
> ... or maybe not.
>
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TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver

2013-10-04 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Similar to my recent experience of loosing my Adobe pdf printer when an
update to Acrobat X (or maybe it was an update to an non-extant Adobe
Reader, at least that was what the error message mentioned) failed.
Reinstalling Acrobat X did it for me.

Brgds
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:

> Nonetheless, after a couple of days of attempting both FM and Acrobat
> updates with no change, changing the default application that opened the
> PDF is what finally resulting in getting a working PDF printer. It was a
> Acrobat update that finally did the trick, BTW, but since FM is linked to
> Distiller, it seems to me that should be part of its update function, but
> maybe not.
>
> I'm just reporting what worked for me. Despite occasional problems like
> this I've never had to reinstall either application from scratch.
>
> Another note: It was an update to Acrobat Reader 11 as a add-in to my
> browser through a security recommendation of my Norton security software
> that originally triggered the problem of losing the PDF printer.
>
> Craig
>
> > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:02:36 -0700
> > Subject: Re: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver
> > From: robert at lauriston.com
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> >
> > If there is an FrameMaker update, installing it would probably repair
> > the Save as PDF functionality, just as reinstalling would.
> >
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Re: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver

2013-10-03 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Similar to my recent experience of loosing my Adobe pdf printer when an
update to Acrobat X (or maybe it was an update to an non-extant Adobe
Reader, at least that was what the error message mentioned) failed.
Reinstalling Acrobat X did it for me.

Brgds
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Nonetheless, after a couple of days of attempting both FM and Acrobat
 updates with no change, changing the default application that opened the
 PDF is what finally resulting in getting a working PDF printer. It was a
 Acrobat update that finally did the trick, BTW, but since FM is linked to
 Distiller, it seems to me that should be part of its update function, but
 maybe not.

 I'm just reporting what worked for me. Despite occasional problems like
 this I've never had to reinstall either application from scratch.

 Another note: It was an update to Acrobat Reader 11 as a add-in to my
 browser through a security recommendation of my Norton security software
 that originally triggered the problem of losing the PDF printer.

 Craig

  Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:02:36 -0700
  Subject: Re: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver
  From: rob...@lauriston.com
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

 
  If there is an FrameMaker update, installing it would probably repair
  the Save as PDF functionality, just as reinstalling would.
 
  What application you have set to open PDFs is irrelevant.
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Re: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver

Seems to me you should do a partial reinstallation of your FM, installing
Distiller. Some other install of another pdf application might have damaged
it.

HTH,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:51 AM, VLM TechSubs 
techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote:

 Yes Zaeem, and thank you!

 ** **

 I sometimes get the impression that Adobe Acrobat has a few “undocumented
 features” going on. :)

 ** **

 Acrobat is VERY expensive. Everything from Adobe is very expensive, IMO.
 :):) So I imagine that your work will be welcomed by many people! Will you
 include PDFmarks support? 

 ** **

 Interesting comment about LaTeX. I am aware of it, but not familiar with
 it. Does it work under Windows, or only Linux?

 ** **

 Thanks !

 Elchanan

 ** **

 *From:* Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) [mailto:
 syed.hos...@aeris.net]
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:50 PM
 *To:* VLM TechSubs; i...@heiko-haida.de; Framers

 *Subject:* RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver

 ** **

 As an FYI:

 ** **

 Some hyperlinks in FrameMaker documents do not seem to output with PDF
 generators like Nitro PDF and a few others that I have tested so far. Most
 are good in general though (of course, I am not sure why Nitro choked on
 your document!).

 ** **

 Anyway, so far, my tests show only Adobe Acrobat doing the “right thing”
 for the links, but I am planning on working with a company who makes a PDF
 writer – they have expressed interest to add this support. So, if you have
 links in your document, stick with Adobe Acrobat for now ...

 ** **

 Z

 ** **

 P.S. Some LaTeX editors can create PDF with links. I particularly like
 TeXstudio (from http://texstudio.sourceforge.net/). All my *new* specs
 are now created as LaTeX files instead of FrameMaker, and this editor is
 generating excellent PDF output for them.

 ** **

 *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [
 mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.comframers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
 *On Behalf Of *VLM TechSubs
 *Sent:* Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:33 PM
 *To:* i...@heiko-haida.de; Framers
 *Subject:* RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver

 ** **

 Thanks for this kind response, Tino.

 ** **

 I did not have Acrobat/Distiller on my system, so I had to install
 something.

 ** **

 I did try using Nitro PDF Pro 8, for which I have a full license, but it
 choked when I tried to print the whole book using its PDF printer driver. I
 suppose I could have tried others, but when I received Art’s suggestion, I
 just went with that, and it has worked out fine. 

 ** **

 Best,

 Elchanan

 *From:* Heiko Haida [mailto:i...@heiko-haida.de i...@heiko-haida.de]
 *Sent:* Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:54 PM
 *To:* VLM TechSubs
 *Subject:* Re: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver

 ** **

 Hi, 

 the main question is if you still have Acrobat and Distiller installed on
 your computer or not.

 I also have this problem: FM does not recognize the Distiller, but it
 nevertheless does in fact produce a ps-file, a .tps-file (which would
 normally handed over automatically to Distiller). 

 I then just take this file and drag it on to the Distiller and have my PDF.
 

 But if Acrobat has really vanished completely, you could use the FM 8
 distiller plugin which is part of the FM installation DVD (maybe via the
 repair option, I am not sure).

 Or: You could install any other PDF printer like Tiny PDF, PDF24 or
 whatever you like... Just check the Internet for something suitable.

 Best regards -

 Tino H. Haida

 VLM TechSubs:

 Aack! I’m at the end of this project, and I went to Save As PDF. Frame 8
 (Win 7 x64) reports that it cannot find the Adobe PDF printer driver. I
 know what happened … I had someone “helping me”, and that person
 “accidentally cleaned it up”. Needless to say, that person is no longer
 helping me! :)

 Meanwhile … how can I get this driver back. Do I download a complete Frame
 8 installation and install over the one I have? (I do have the S/N, of
 course.) Or is there another, more direct solution?

 Thanks!

 Elchanan


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Re: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

This is not some fault, this only shows that you have set the columns to
balance (probably the default). Uncheck and the left column will fill
before anything is added to the right (or next) column, and then it will
stay filled.

Also notice that the balancing is also governed by the settings of the
settings of orphan/widow settings of the paragraphs.

HTH,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wr...@tycoint.comwrote:

Hi Carstens,

Yes. I also have this problem from time to time.

I noticed this with FrameMaker 10 and now also with

FrameMaker 11. Extremely annoying. How can you

rely on that the text is where it is supposed to be

with such a bug.

MIF washing fixes this issue. However, not for long ...

Or deactivate the setting „Balance Columns“ in your

main text frame.

Best regards

Winfried

*From:* Carsten86 [mailto:forums_nore...@adobe.com]
*Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 9:31 AM
*To:* Reng, Dr. Winfried
*Subject:* [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

Text skipping from right to left column

created by Carsten86 http://forums.adobe.com/people/Carsten86 in *FrameMaker
*- View the full discussionhttp://forums.adobe.com/message/5724157#5724157
--

I have a problem where sometimes if I'm working on a document with two
columns on the same page, if the left column is not filled to the bottom,
text from the bottom of the right column skips to the left. Has anyone else
had this problem?

The page may look correct in Framemaker, but on export to Postscript, it
happens, and sometimes it can be incredibly hard to notice before sending
the file to the client.

Hope someone can shed some light on this :)

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Re: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

Sorry, I didn't realize. (Slapping my mouth! No, fingers!) Never saw this
in my FM 7, 7.2 or 10.

Can this have anything to do with sloppy memory (not mine! the computer's)?
Any havy graphics? Structured mode (returns less memory back, I
understand)? I have seen the strangest things happen when the computer is
losing control of its memory.

Bodvar






On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wr...@tycoint.comwrote:

  Hi Bödvar,



 This is not only a fault, this is a nasty bug.

 Or how do you name it, if some lines from the end

 of the _*second*_ column are moved to the end of the

 _*first*_ column.

 Column 1 is filled with text, then column 2, and at the

 end of column 1 you have some lines out of any context.

 These lines are moved from the end of column 2.



 Yes. Balance Columns is activated. But that’s what I want to keep.

 The orphan/widow setting should not cause such a strange effect.



 I had responded to a post on the Adobe forum, but accidentally

 not on the Adobe forum but to this mailing list.



 Best regards



 Winfried





 *From:* Böðvar Björgvinsson [mailto:bod...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 2:42 PM
 *To:* Reng, Dr. Winfried
 *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column



 This is not some fault, this only shows that you have set the columns to
 balance (probably the default). Uncheck and the left column will fill
 before anything is added to the right (or next) column, and then it will
 stay filled.



 Also notice that the balancing is also governed by the settings of the
 settings of orphan/widow settings of the paragraphs.



 HTH,

 Bodvar Bjorgvinsson








 On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wr...@tycoint.com
 wrote:

 Hi Carstens,



 Yes. I also have this problem from time to time.

 I noticed this with FrameMaker 10 and now also with

 FrameMaker 11. Extremely annoying. How can you

 rely on that the text is where it is supposed to be

 with such a bug.



 MIF washing fixes this issue. However, not for long ...



 Or deactivate the setting „Balance Columns“ in your

 main text frame.



 Best regards



 Winfried



 *From:* Carsten86 [mailto:forums_nore...@adobe.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 9:31 AM
 *To:* Reng, Dr. Winfried
 *Subject:* [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column


Text skipping from right to left column

 created by Carsten86 http://forums.adobe.com/people/Carsten86 in *FrameMaker
 *- View the full discussionhttp://forums.adobe.com/message/5724157#5724157
  --

 I have a problem where sometimes if I'm working on a document with two
 columns on the same page, if the left column is not filled to the bottom,
 text from the bottom of the right column skips to the left. Has anyone else
 had this problem?



 The page may look correct in Framemaker, but on export to Postscript, it
 happens, and sometimes it can be incredibly hard to notice before sending
 the file to the client.



 Hope someone can shed some light on this :)

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TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver

Seems to me you should do a partial reinstallation of your FM, installing
Distiller. Some other install of another pdf application might have damaged
it.

HTH,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:51 AM, VLM TechSubs <
TechSubs at vibrantlivingministries.org> wrote:

> Yes Zaeem, and thank you!
>
> ** **
>
> I sometimes get the impression that Adobe Acrobat has a few ?undocumented
> features? going on. :)
>
> ** **
>
> Acrobat is VERY expensive. Everything from Adobe is very expensive, IMO.
> :):) So I imagine that your work will be welcomed by many people! Will you
> include PDFmarks support? 
>
> ** **
>
> Interesting comment about LaTeX. I am aware of it, but not familiar with
> it. Does it work under Windows, or only Linux?
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks !
>
> Elchanan
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) [mailto:
> Syed.Hosain at aeris.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:50 PM
> *To:* VLM TechSubs; info at heiko-haida.de; Framers
>
> *Subject:* RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver
>
> ** **
>
> As an FYI:
>
> ** **
>
> Some hyperlinks in FrameMaker documents do not seem to output with PDF
> generators like Nitro PDF and a few others that I have tested so far. Most
> are good in general though (of course, I am not sure why Nitro choked on
> your document!).
>
> ** **
>
> Anyway, so far, my tests show only Adobe Acrobat doing the ?right thing?
> for the links, but I am planning on working with a company who makes a PDF
> writer ? they have expressed interest to add this support. So, if you have
> links in your document, stick with Adobe Acrobat for now ...
>
> ** **
>
> Z
>
> ** **
>
> P.S. Some LaTeX editors can create PDF with links. I particularly like
> TeXstudio (from http://texstudio.sourceforge.net/). All my *new* specs
> are now created as LaTeX files instead of FrameMaker, and this editor is
> generating excellent PDF output for them.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [
> mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com lists.frameusers.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *VLM TechSubs
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 29, 2013 8:33 PM
> *To:* info at heiko-haida.de; Framers
> *Subject:* RE: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks for this kind response, Tino.
>
> ** **
>
> I did not have Acrobat/Distiller on my system, so I had to install
> something.
>
> ** **
>
> I did try using Nitro PDF Pro 8, for which I have a full license, but it
> choked when I tried to print the whole book using its PDF printer driver. I
> suppose I could have tried others, but when I received Art?s suggestion, I
> just went with that, and it has worked out fine. 
>
> ** **
>
> Best,
>
> Elchanan
>
> *From:* Heiko Haida [mailto:info at heiko-haida.de ]
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:54 PM
> *To:* VLM TechSubs
> *Subject:* Re: TIME URGENT ... Missing Adobe PDF printer driver
>
> ** **
>
> Hi, 
>
> the main question is if you still have Acrobat and Distiller installed on
> your computer or not.
>
> I also have this problem: FM does not recognize the Distiller, but it
> nevertheless does in fact produce a ps-file, a ".tps"-file (which would
> normally handed over automatically to Distiller). 
>
> I then just take this file and drag it on to the Distiller and have my PDF.
> 
>
> But if Acrobat has really vanished completely, you could use the FM 8
> distiller plugin which is part of the FM installation DVD (maybe via the
> "repair" option, I am not sure).
>
> Or: You could install any other PDF printer like Tiny PDF, PDF24 or
> whatever you like... Just check the Internet for something suitable.
>
> Best regards -
>
> Tino H. Haida
>
> VLM TechSubs:
>
> Aack! I?m at the end of this project, and I went to Save As PDF. Frame 8
> (Win 7 x64) reports that it cannot find the Adobe PDF printer driver. I
> know what happened ? I had someone ?helping me?, and that person
> ?accidentally cleaned it up?. Needless to say, that person is no longer
> helping me! :)
>
> Meanwhile ? how can I get this driver back. Do I download a complete Frame
> 8 installation and install over the one I have? (I do have the S/N, of
> course.) Or is there another, more direct solution?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Elchanan
>
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[FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

This is not some fault, this only shows that you have set the columns to
balance (probably the default). Uncheck and the left column will fill
before anything is added to the right (or next) column, and then it will
stay filled.

Also notice that the balancing is also governed by the settings of the
settings of orphan/widow settings of the paragraphs.

HTH,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:

>  Hi Carstens,
>
>
>
> Yes. I also have this problem from time to time.
>
> I noticed this with FrameMaker 10 and now also with
>
> FrameMaker 11. Extremely annoying. How can you
>
> rely on that the text is where it is supposed to be
>
> with such a bug.
>
>
>
> MIF washing fixes this issue. However, not for long ...
>
>
>
> Or deactivate the setting ?Balance Columns? in your
>
> main text frame.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> Winfried
>
>
>
> *From:* Carsten86 [mailto:forums_noreply at adobe.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 9:31 AM
> *To:* Reng, Dr. Winfried
> *Subject:* [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column
>
>
>Text skipping from right to left column
>
> created by Carsten86  in *FrameMaker
> *- View the full discussion
>  --
>
> I have a problem where sometimes if I'm working on a document with two
> columns on the same page, if the left column is not filled to the bottom,
> text from the bottom of the right column skips to the left. Has anyone else
> had this problem?
>
>
>
> The page may look correct in Framemaker, but on export to Postscript, it
> happens, and sometimes it can be incredibly hard to notice before sending
> the file to the client.
>
>
>
> Hope someone can shed some light on this :)
>
> Please note that the Adobe Forums do not accept email attachments. If you
> want to embed a screen image in your message please visit the thread in the
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[FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column

Sorry, I didn't realize. (Slapping my mouth! No, fingers!) Never saw this
in my FM 7, 7.2 or 10.

Can this have anything to do with sloppy memory (not mine! the computer's)?
Any havy graphics? Structured mode (returns less memory back, I
understand)? I have seen the strangest things happen when the computer is
losing control of its memory.

Bodvar






On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote:

>  Hi B?dvar,
>
>
>
> This is not only a fault, this is a nasty bug.
>
> Or how do you name it, if some lines from the end
>
> of the _*second*_ column are moved to the end of the
>
> _*first*_ column.
>
> Column 1 is filled with text, then column 2, and at the
>
> end of column 1 you have some lines out of any context.
>
> These lines are moved from the end of column 2.
>
>
>
> Yes. Balance Columns is activated. But that?s what I want to keep.
>
> The orphan/widow setting should not cause such a strange effect.
>
>
>
> I had responded to a post on the Adobe forum, but accidentally
>
> not on the Adobe forum but to this mailing list.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> Winfried
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* B??var Bj?rgvinsson [mailto:bodvar at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 2:42 PM
> *To:* Reng, Dr. Winfried
> *Cc:* framers at lists.frameusers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column
>
>
>
> This is not some fault, this only shows that you have set the columns to
> balance (probably the default). Uncheck and the left column will fill
> before anything is added to the right (or next) column, and then it will
> stay filled.
>
>
>
> Also notice that the balancing is also governed by the settings of the
> settings of orphan/widow settings of the paragraphs.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Carstens,
>
>
>
> Yes. I also have this problem from time to time.
>
> I noticed this with FrameMaker 10 and now also with
>
> FrameMaker 11. Extremely annoying. How can you
>
> rely on that the text is where it is supposed to be
>
> with such a bug.
>
>
>
> MIF washing fixes this issue. However, not for long ...
>
>
>
> Or deactivate the setting ?Balance Columns? in your
>
> main text frame.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> Winfried
>
>
>
> *From:* Carsten86 [mailto:forums_noreply at adobe.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 9:31 AM
> *To:* Reng, Dr. Winfried
> *Subject:* [FrameMaker ] Text skipping from right to left column
>
>
>Text skipping from right to left column
>
> created by Carsten86  in *FrameMaker
> *- View the full discussion
>  --
>
> I have a problem where sometimes if I'm working on a document with two
> columns on the same page, if the left column is not filled to the bottom,
> text from the bottom of the right column skips to the left. Has anyone else
> had this problem?
>
>
>
> The page may look correct in Framemaker, but on export to Postscript, it
> happens, and sometimes it can be incredibly hard to notice before sending
> the file to the client.
>
>
>
> Hope someone can shed some light on this :)
>
> Please note that the Adobe Forums do not accept email attachments. If you
> want to embed a screen image in your message please visit the thread in the
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> http://forums.adobe.com/message/5724157#5724157
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Re: Adobe PS driver vanished after Adobe failed Acrobat update

2013-09-17 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Probably my first bad experience, but then I have avoided such duplicates
in my higher experience years of FM. ;-)

Brgds,
Bodvar






On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.comwrote:

 The experts say it's a bad idea to have Acrobat Reader and Acrobat on
 the same system.


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  I deleted Reader and ran the Acrobat X repair, and voilá! My Adobe PDF
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Adobe PS driver vanished after Adobe failed Acrobat update

2013-09-17 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Probably my first bad experience, but then I have avoided such duplicates
in my higher experience years of FM. ;-)

Brgds,
Bodvar






On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

> The experts say it's a bad idea to have Acrobat Reader and Acrobat on
> the same system.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:15 PM, B??var Bj?rgvinsson 
> wrote:
> > I deleted Reader and ran the Acrobat X repair, and voil?! My Adobe PDF
> printer is here again!
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Adobe PS driver vanished after Adobe failed Acrobat update

A few days ago i accepted (once again!) Adobe's request for update on Adobe
Acrobat (or Reader) — security reasons, they said. And, as usual, while
downloading the message was that I could keep on with my work.

However, the installer gave up when trying to install the update and told
me it didn't have the rights, system being Windows 7.

I thought nothing more of it until now when I tried to print a FM10 file to
file, there was no option for it. I tried the Distiller on a ps file and it
worked fine. I tried to save as pdf in FM10 and it started but quit with
complaints that there was no Adobe ps driver available.

On the Adobe website i only find older versions of ps drivers and all the
answers I can see are about having to set it up as a new printer in
Windows, but I do not know where to look for it. I don't find any such
thing in System32\drivers.

And they warn that the ps drivers on Adobe's website do not work with Vista
or newer.

Any comments?
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Re: Adobe PS driver vanished after Adobe failed Acrobat update

Thanks for the suggestions. They helped me take the right decision. :-)

I did not have Reader installed earlier, but after having sent the computer
to a shop (due to USB problems and other anomalities) some changes seem to
have been made that triggered automatic update of Reader. Perhaps they
installed it? And failing to install the update seems to have killed the
printer.

I deleted Reader and ran the Acrobat X repair, and voilá! My Adobe PDF
printer is here again!

Your far-away neighbour,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson,
Iceland






On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:

 The same thing happened to me about a week ago. I limped along using print
 to .ps. I think what finally fixed it was a Adobe Update session. Trigger
 an update for all your Adobe programs and see if that doesn't fix it. If
 you can't, have your administrator do it.

 ** **

 Craig

 ** **

 *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Böðvar Björgvinsson
 *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 12:13 PM
 *To:* FrameUsers List; frame2acro...@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Adobe PS driver vanished after Adobe failed Acrobat update

 ** **

 A few days ago i accepted (once again!) Adobe's request for update on
 Adobe Acrobat (or Reader) — security reasons, they said. And, as usual,
 while downloading the message was that I could keep on with my work.

 ** **

 However, the installer gave up when trying to install the update and told
 me it didn't have the rights, system being Windows 7.

 ** **

 I thought nothing more of it until now when I tried to print a FM10 file
 to file, there was no option for it. I tried the Distiller on a ps file and
 it worked fine. I tried to save as pdf in FM10 and it started but quit with
 complaints that there was no Adobe ps driver available.

 ** **

 On the Adobe website i only find older versions of ps drivers and all the
 answers I can see are about having to set it up as a new printer in
 Windows, but I do not know where to look for it. I don't find any such
 thing in System32\drivers.

 ** **

 And they warn that the ps drivers on Adobe's website do not work with
 Vista or newer.

 ** **

 Any comments?


 

 

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Adobe PS driver vanished after Adobe failed Acrobat update

A few days ago i accepted (once again!) Adobe's request for update on Adobe
Acrobat (or Reader) ? security reasons, they said. And, as usual, while
downloading the message was that I could keep on with my work.

However, the installer gave up when trying to install the update and told
me it didn't have the rights, system being Windows 7.

I thought nothing more of it until now when I tried to print a FM10 file to
file, there was no option for it. I tried the Distiller on a ps file and it
worked fine. I tried to save as pdf in FM10 and it started but quit with
complaints that there was no Adobe ps driver available.

On the Adobe website i only find older versions of ps drivers and all the
answers I can see are about having to set it up as a new printer in
Windows, but I do not know where to look for it. I don't find any such
thing in System32\drivers.

And they warn that the ps drivers on Adobe's website do not work with Vista
or newer.

Any comments?
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Adobe PS driver vanished after Adobe failed Acrobat update

Thanks for the suggestions. They helped me take the right decision. :-)

I did not have Reader installed earlier, but after having sent the computer
to a shop (due to USB problems and other anomalities) some changes seem to
have been made that triggered automatic update of Reader. Perhaps they
installed it? And failing to install the update seems to have killed the
printer.

I deleted Reader and ran the Acrobat X repair, and voil?! My Adobe PDF
printer is here again!

Your far-away neighbour,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson,
Iceland






On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Craig Ede  wrote:

> The same thing happened to me about a week ago. I limped along using print
> to .ps. I think what finally fixed it was a Adobe Update session. Trigger
> an update for all your Adobe programs and see if that doesn't fix it. If
> you can't, have your administrator do it.
>
> ** **
>
> Craig
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
> framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *B??var Bj?rgvinsson
> *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 12:13 PM
> *To:* FrameUsers List; frame2acrobat at yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Adobe PS driver vanished after Adobe failed Acrobat update
>
> ** **
>
> A few days ago i accepted (once again!) Adobe's request for update on
> Adobe Acrobat (or Reader) ? security reasons, they said. And, as usual,
> while downloading the message was that I could keep on with my work.
>
> ** **
>
> However, the installer gave up when trying to install the update and told
> me it didn't have the rights, system being Windows 7.
>
> ** **
>
> I thought nothing more of it until now when I tried to print a FM10 file
> to file, there was no option for it. I tried the Distiller on a ps file and
> it worked fine. I tried to save as pdf in FM10 and it started but quit with
> complaints that there was no Adobe ps driver available.
>
> ** **
>
> On the Adobe website i only find older versions of ps drivers and all the
> answers I can see are about having to set it up as a new printer in
> Windows, but I do not know where to look for it. I don't find any such
> thing in System32\drivers.
>
> ** **
>
> And they warn that the ps drivers on Adobe's website do not work with
> Vista or newer.
>
> ** **
>
> Any comments?
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
> ** **
>
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Re: ANN: 13Sept Webinar 9AM PAC Optimizing the Word to FrameMaker Workflow

2013-09-11 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Hi Maxwell,

It would have been great to be able to attend, but sadly I am otherwise
engaged. Will this be recorded and available on Adobe website?

Thank you,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.comwrote:

  9:00AM PAC Fri September 13, Register at: http://adobe.ly/16OF6Fw ** 

 ** **

 Migration from Microsoft Word to FrameMaker is a very common path for
 content creators whose workflow outgrows Word's limitations with high
 volume or document complexity. Watch FrameMaker expert Barb Binder share
 her tips on how to manage a migration workflow from Word to FrameMaker,
 including:

 ** **

 == Optimizing styles and catalogs in Word before conversion to reduce
 document touch up

 == Word document artifacts to eliminate or avoid

 == How to grasp fundamentals of FrameMaker publishing in terms that Word
 users can appreciate and understand

 == How to automate publishing tasks in FrameMaker via intelligent styles
 that required more manual effort in Word

 ** **

 After this session you will have a good foundation on how to work with
 Word and FrameMaker, and when it makes sense to migrate your project
 content into FrameMaker.

 ** **

 About our Presenter: Barb Binder is an Adobe Certified Instructor and the
 owner of Rocky Mountain Training. When she’s not teaching grown-ups how to
 use Adobe software, she’s at Winter Park teaching kids how to ski. -- She
 has been an Adobe Certified Instructor since 1997, and is currently
 certified on FrameMaker, InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InCopy
 and the Digital Publishing Suite. Her company, Rocky Mountain Training was
 one of the early adopters of online, interactive training delivery.
 Students attend classes from locations in North America, South America,
 Europe and even Australia.

 ** **

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ANN: 13Sept Webinar 9AM PAC "Optimizing the Word to FrameMaker Workflow"

2013-09-11 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson

Hi Maxwell,

It would have been great to be able to attend, but sadly I am otherwise
engaged. Will this be recorded and available on Adobe website?

Thank you,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson






On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Maxwell Hoffmann wrote:

>  9:00AM PAC Fri September 13, Register at: http://adobe.ly/16OF6Fw ** 
>
> ** **
>
> Migration from Microsoft Word to FrameMaker is a very common path for
> content creators whose workflow outgrows Word's limitations with high
> volume or document complexity. Watch FrameMaker expert Barb Binder share
> her tips on how to manage a migration workflow from Word to FrameMaker,
> including:
>
> ** **
>
> == Optimizing styles and catalogs in Word before conversion to reduce
> document touch up
>
> == Word document artifacts to eliminate or avoid
>
> == How to grasp fundamentals of FrameMaker publishing in terms that Word
> users can appreciate and understand
>
> == How to automate publishing tasks in FrameMaker via intelligent styles
> that required more manual effort in Word
>
> ** **
>
> After this session you will have a good foundation on how to work with
> Word and FrameMaker, and when it makes sense to migrate your project
> content into FrameMaker.
>
> ** **
>
> About our Presenter: Barb Binder is an Adobe Certified Instructor and the
> owner of Rocky Mountain Training. When she?s not teaching grown-ups how to
> use Adobe software, she?s at Winter Park teaching kids how to ski. -- She
> has been an Adobe Certified Instructor since 1997, and is currently
> certified on FrameMaker, InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InCopy
> and the Digital Publishing Suite. Her company, Rocky Mountain Training was
> one of the early adopters of online, interactive training delivery.
> Students attend classes from locations in North America, South America,
> Europe and even Australia.
>
> ** **
>
> _
>
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> ***
>
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> blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
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Re: Blocking local formatting when copying

Download HovText www.hovtext.com. It toggles copyint text with and without
formats for a number of apps, incl. FM. Have used it successfully on both
7.2 and 10. Only remember when in Structured FM, when on it will not copy
elements either, so remember to toggle off when needed.

Free as in beer.

Brgds.

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On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.comwrote:

  When I copy text from, say, a heading, and past it into a Body
 paragraph, the font formatting from the heading is copied along with the
 text.

 ** **

 Is there a hotkey to remove local formatting (overrides) or a way of
 avoiding this?

 ** **

 *Alastair Dent*

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Re: 'as is' option for conditional text

As is always keeps whatever values are residing in each instance.

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  What does the ‘as is’ option do when applying conditional text?

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Re: Font suggestions for a book

Beautiful fonts!








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  I have always been a fan of meta by Erik Spiekermann:

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 http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/fontfont/ff-meta/

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 It’s not free, however. 

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Blocking local formatting when copying

Download HovText www.hovtext.com. It toggles copyint text with and without
formats for a number of apps, incl. FM. Have used it successfully on both
7.2 and 10. Only remember when in Structured FM, when on it will not copy
elements either, so remember to toggle off when needed.

Free as in beer.

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On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Alastair Dent wrote:

>  When I copy text from, say, a heading, and past it into a Body
> paragraph, the font formatting from the heading is copied along with the
> text.
>
> ** **
>
> Is there a hotkey to remove local formatting (overrides) or a way of
> avoiding this?
>
> ** **
>
> *Alastair Dent*
>
> Technical Author
>
> Imagination Technologies Limited
>
> t: +44 (0)113 242 9814
>
> www.imgtec.com
>
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'as is' option for conditional text

"As is" always keeps whatever values are residing in each instance.

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>  What does the ?as is? option do when applying conditional text?
>
> ** **
>
> *Alastair Dent*
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Font suggestions for a book

Beautiful fonts!








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>  I have always been a fan of meta by Erik Spiekermann:
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/fontfont/ff-meta/
>
> ** **
>
> It?s not free, however. 
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> ** **
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> ??.??.??.??.??.??.??
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Re: OT: Font suggestions for book?

Choosing a font set is always a bit of a matter of taste. However, it is
usual to see in (company) manuals sans serif types like Arial (ususally
because no one bothers to check for anything else) or the Calibri font that
came with the newer MS Office suites.

I used to opt for Helvetica instead of Arial, mainly because the numbers
were clearer in Helvetica. But that was  clearly before Calibri times. ;-)

Some serif fonts come to mind. I am working with a book now about a certain
institution, and I decided to use the old Cheltenham for body and Myriad
Pro for headings.

I have spent a lot of time through the years looking for and comparing
fonts, and in one instance, trying to decide on the best font for the
dim-sighted, I made four copies of sample text with different fonts and had
people test read (from a distance to closer up). The one decided upon
seemed to help the dyslexics too.

So, if you want to study fonts, you will be spending a lot of your free
time. But it is fun! But your customer will not complement you on it,
becaus he/she/they do not know what it really is that makes them like or
hate the looks of the book. There are so many things to consider.

But you are right: Readability counts. So, not Arial! And not fancy fonts.

Probably this is of little help, but it is Friday night. :-)

And, I could send you some samples in pdf if you like. Main thing is: What
does your font library consist of? New fonts can be very expensive.

Have a nice weekend!

Bodvar, Iceland






On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:42 PM, VLM TechSubs 
techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 ** **

 I’m not sure whether this post went through, so I’m trying again. 

 ** **

 In the past, I’ve worked on writing, editing, and functional template
 design, but in general I’ve left “pretty stuff” such as font selection to
 others. So I really don’t know what fonts might be most readable, or most
 popular, or how to pair a body and a heading font, or the like. Of course,
 much is written all over the Internet, but I thought that here, there would
 be people with specific experience writing and publishing books. So that is
 why I have directed this inquiry here. I hope it’s okay. :)

 ** **

 Thanks,

 Elchanan

 *From:* VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org]
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:22 PM
 *To:* Framers; Free Framers
 *Subject:* OT: Font suggestions for book?

 ** **

 Greetings everyone,

 ** **

 I’m working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall.
 I’ve now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the
 writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily
 financial … it’s a book about the history of taxation. It’s not a scholarly
 work at all, but rather one designed to “wake up” American teens and young
 adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there,
 but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense
 as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format,
 paperback. 

 ** **

 All that having been said … What are people’s favorite or recommended
 fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring
 budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would
 be most welcome. 

 ** **

 Well, thanks in advance!

 ** **

 Best regards,

 Elchanan

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Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?

AFAIK, Hunspell uses (or at least did use) plain text files. In Open Office
and Libre Office, I can add to it from the old UNIX libraries for aspell or
ispell. Which can be added to directly in a text editor, if you want to.

I don't know whether it is any different in FM11. Have you googled hunspell?

Bodvar






On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Simon BUCH simon.b...@m-ais.com wrote:

  I have been making some preparations for a work project, and so I've been
 trying to gather additional information on FrameMaker 11.  So far, my
 results have been disappointing.

 I want to research on the Hunspell dictionary functionality, but all I
 can find is just ONE single reference in the User Guide [and online Help]
 to a setting on the Edit  Preferences dialog.  No further information at
 all.


 I then decided to read the FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file, which is
 part of the FrameMaker 11 trial software package that was downloaded at the
 end of June, but there appears to be some confusion:

 * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - System requirements
 http://www.adobe.com/go/framemaker_systemreqs
 takes you to the Adobe special Error404 page.
 I suspect they meant to say:
 http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/systemreqs.html

 * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - Installation Instructions
 For detailed instructions on installation, visit the installation
 page: http://www.adobe.com/go/cs_install_instruct_en;

 Creative Suite 6 Installation Instructions?
 OK.  I thought FM11 was part of the TC suite.

 * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file - Trial software
 You can convert from a trial to a full version at any time by either
 purchasing a copy of the product or signing up for a subscription

 Really?  No wonder why there's been so much discussion on this list about
 the subject.
 Where do I find further information on this?

 * FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file Known Issues?
 http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en

 Adobe special Error404 page again.



 So, I'm still none the wiser about Hunspell.   Oh well.

 // Simon


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OT: Font suggestions for book?

Choosing a font set is always a bit of a matter of taste. However, it is
usual to see in (company) manuals sans serif types like Arial (ususally
because no one bothers to check for anything else) or the Calibri font that
came with the newer MS Office suites.

I used to opt for Helvetica instead of Arial, mainly because the numbers
were clearer in Helvetica. But that was  clearly before Calibri times. ;-)

Some serif fonts come to mind. I am working with a book now about a certain
institution, and I decided to use the old Cheltenham for body and Myriad
Pro for headings.

I have spent a lot of time through the years looking for and comparing
fonts, and in one instance, trying to decide on the best font for the
dim-sighted, I made four copies of sample text with different fonts and had
people test read (from a distance to closer up). The one decided upon
seemed to help the dyslexics too.

So, if you want to study fonts, you will be spending a lot of your free
time. But it is fun! But your customer will not complement you on it,
becaus he/she/they do not know what it really is that makes them like or
hate the looks of the book. There are so many things to consider.

But you are right: Readability counts. So, not Arial! And not fancy fonts.

Probably this is of little help, but it is Friday night. :-)

And, I could send you some samples in pdf if you like. Main thing is: What
does your font library consist of? New fonts can be very expensive.

Have a nice weekend!

Bodvar, Iceland

On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:42 PM, VLM TechSubs <
TechSubs at vibrantlivingministries.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> ** **
>
> I?m not sure whether this post went through, so I?m trying again. 
>
> ** **
>
> In the past, I?ve worked on writing, editing, and functional template
> design, but in general I?ve left ?pretty stuff? such as font selection to
> others. So I really don?t know what fonts might be most readable, or most
> popular, or how to pair a body and a heading font, or the like. Of course,
> much is written all over the Internet, but I thought that here, there would
> be people with specific experience writing and publishing books. So that is
> why I have directed this inquiry here. I hope it?s okay. :)
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,
>
> Elchanan
>
> *From:* VLM TechSubs [mailto:TechSubs at VibrantLivingMinistries.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:22 PM
> *To:* Framers; Free Framers
> *Subject:* OT: Font suggestions for book?
>
> ** **
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> ** **
>
> I?m working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall.
> I?ve now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the
> writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily
> financial ? it?s a book about the history of taxation. It?s not a scholarly
> work at all, but rather one designed to ?wake up? American teens and young
> adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there,
> but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense
> as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format,
> paperback. 
>
> ** **
>
> All that having been said ? What are people?s favorite or recommended
> fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring
> budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would
> be most welcome. 
>
> ** **
>
> Well, thanks in advance!
>
> ** **
>
> Best regards,
>
> Elchanan
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