FM 8 to ePub?
Can anyone point me to a good reference on the path from Frame 8.0 to ePub? I work for a small publisher, and about half of our (print) books are in FM8. In the last year we have migrated all new projects to InDesign, mostly because most of our contract book designers work in InDesign and we needed to be consistent with what they were doing. We have 8 to 10 books in FM8 that I need to migrate to ePub, ideally with as little cost as possible. After this conversion, we won't be using FrameMaker much anymore, so I don't want to invest any more than needed. So. some questions: --Do I need to upgrade to a more current version of Frame to do this? --Is there an intermediary piece of software I need to buy? --Can anyone recommend a good reference (web site, book, etc.) describing how to convert Frame documents to ePub? Thanks in advance. Tina Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides tina @ trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Links not working: Frame 8 to PDF to external file
Hi everyone, Frame version: 8.0p277 Adobe Acrobat Pro version: 8.2.5 I'm creating a giant PDF file (in Frame) of conference papers for a professional conference. It will be burned on a CD. I have my giant PDF, and I have a folder called Attachments. Inside the Attachments folder are a whole load of PowerPoint Show files (.pps) GiantPDF.pdf Attachments Filename.pps Filename_2.pps (etc. etc.) In Frame, I created hyperlinks with this setting: Special Hypertext Command: Message Client Syntax box: Message openfile Attachments/Filename.pps (this seemed like the correct syntax for a relative pathname, based on several internet resources) On my computer, this works great. I can create my PDF, I can move my folder structure elsewhere on my computer and things work. When I create a CD and take it to a different computer, my giant PDF can't find the PPS files. Why? All internal links within the PDF work fine. What am I doing wrong? Would love any assistance. Tina Ricks Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides Tina at trialguides dot com office: 503.531.3233 cell: 503.890.5536 http://www.trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Links not working: Frame 8 to PDF to external file
Hi everyone, and thanks for all the help. I'll see if I can answer some questions: The front end, the giant Frame book, is 600 pages of academic papers. It's way more than a TOC. A handful of those papers (about 10) have associated PowerPoint slides that are also included on the CD. I don't think I have a complete path in my FM links, although I might. I can take this structure (Giant PDF plus attachments folder) and move it to other locations on my machine (USB drive, etc.) and the links work. When I move the files, they are in the same relative location on Computer #2. If I click the attachments separately on Computer #2, they open. The .pps file extension seems to work on Computer #2. The whole construction (giant PDF and Attachments folder) works on Computer #3. The links work from the PDF to the attachments. Maybe this is some kind of odd technical issue with Computer #2. However. since this is going on a CD that will be replicated for several thousand conference attendees (many of which are strikingly non-technical) I need to figure out why this works on some machines and not others. Thanks so much. Tina Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides Tina at trialguides dot com office: 503.531.3233 cell: 503.890.5536 http://www.trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Links not working: Frame 8 to PDF to external file
Yup... my Frame files are in the same folder with my Attachments folder. I was trying to think of ways for Acrobat and Frame NOT to create absolute paths. This is so weird, it works on System #1 and #3, but not on #2. Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides t...@trialguides.com office: 503.531.3233 cell: 503.890.5536 http://www.trialguides.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Links not working: Frame 8 to PDF to external file
Hi everyone, and thanks for all the help. I'll see if I can answer some questions: The front end, the giant Frame book, is 600 pages of academic papers. It's way more than a TOC. A handful of those papers (about 10) have associated PowerPoint slides that are also included on the CD. I don't think I have a complete path in my FM links, although I might. I can take this structure (Giant PDF plus attachments folder) and move it to other locations on my machine (USB drive, etc.) and the links work. When I move the files, they are in the same relative location on Computer #2. If I click the attachments separately on Computer #2, they open. The .pps file extension seems to work on Computer #2. The whole construction (giant PDF and Attachments folder) works on Computer #3. The links work from the PDF to the attachments. Maybe this is some kind of odd technical issue with Computer #2. However. since this is going on a CD that will be replicated for several thousand conference attendees (many of which are strikingly non-technical) I need to figure out why this works on some machines and not others. Thanks so much. Tina Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides Tina at trialguides dot com office: 503.531.3233 cell: 503.890.5536 http://www.trialguides.com <http://www.trialguides.com/>
Links not working: Frame 8 to PDF to external file
Yup... my Frame files are in the same folder with my Attachments folder. I was trying to think of ways for Acrobat and Frame NOT to create absolute paths. This is so weird, it works on System #1 and #3, but not on #2. Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides tina at trialguides.com office: 503.531.3233 cell: 503.890.5536 http://www.trialguides.com
Links not working: Frame 8 to PDF to external file
Hi everyone, Frame version: 8.0p277 Adobe Acrobat Pro version: 8.2.5 I'm creating a giant PDF file (in Frame) of conference papers for a professional conference. It will be burned on a CD. I have my giant PDF, and I have a folder called Attachments. Inside the Attachments folder are a whole load of PowerPoint Show files (.pps) GiantPDF.pdf Attachments Filename.pps Filename_2.pps (etc. etc.) In Frame, I created hyperlinks with this setting: Special > Hypertext Command: Message Client Syntax box: Message openfile Attachments/Filename.pps (this seemed like the correct syntax for a relative pathname, based on several internet resources) On my computer, this works great. I can create my PDF, I can move my folder structure elsewhere on my computer and things work. When I create a CD and take it to a different computer, my giant PDF can't find the PPS files. Why? All internal links within the PDF work fine. What am I doing wrong? Would love any assistance. Tina Ricks Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides Tina at trialguides dot com office: 503.531.3233 cell: 503.890.5536 http://www.trialguides.com <http://www.trialguides.com/>
Dot leaders in an index of markers
Hi there- I'm wrestling with an index and reference pages. Maybe someone can help. I'm in FM8. This is an author index in a large book of professional papers for a conference. (Some authors wrote multiple papers, some papers have multiple authors). I want the index to look like this: A Abner, Joseph Paper Title ..page num Adams, John Quincy First paper title.page num Second paper title...page num B (etc. etc.) My markers are the Author type. A typical marker looks like this (inside the marker dialog box): Abner, Joseph:Paper Title So. I want page numbers with dot leaders for the second level in this index only, not the first level. On the reference pages, I've modified the Level2IOM style to add a right tab with dot leaders. On the reference page, I inserted the tab, and the $pagenum text. My reference page looks like this: -- 1, 2-3 Level2IOM... .. $pagenum Symbols[\ ];Numerics[0];A;B;C;D;E;F;G;H;I;J;K;L;M;N;O;P;Q;R;S;T;U;V;W;X;Y;Z $symbols$numerics$alphabetics -_-- Level1IOM openObjectId $relfilename:$ObjectType $ObjectId $pagenum -- I re-generate the book. No dice. Nothing I've managed, short of typing in the tab character where I want it (after every Level 2 entry, before the page number) will make these dot leaders show up. I've deleted the whole Index of Markers and started over again (figuring I messed something up irreparably), no dice. No dot leaders. I would love any advice to make dot leaders behave themselves. Tina Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides tina at trialguides dot com office: 503.531.3233 cell: 503.890.5536 http://www.trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Dot leaders in an index of markers
Hi there- I'm wrestling with an index and reference pages. Maybe someone can help. I'm in FM8. This is an author index in a large book of professional papers for a conference. (Some authors wrote multiple papers, some papers have multiple authors). I want the index to look like this: A Abner, Joseph Paper Title ..page num Adams, John Quincy First paper title.page num Second paper title...page num B (etc. etc.) My markers are the "Author" type. A typical marker looks like this (inside the marker dialog box): Abner, Joseph:Paper Title So. I want page numbers with dot leaders for the second level in this index only, not the first level. On the reference pages, I've modified the Level2IOM style to add a right tab with dot leaders. On the reference page, I inserted the tab, and the <$pagenum> text. My reference page looks like this: -- 1, 2-3 Level2IOM... .. <$pagenum> Symbols[\ ];Numerics[0];A;B;C;D;E;F;G;H;I;J;K;L;M;N;O;P;Q;R;S;T;U;V;W;X;Y;Z <$symbols><$numerics><$alphabetics> -_-- Level1IOM openObjectId <$relfilename>:<$ObjectType> <$ObjectId> <$pagenum> -- I re-generate the book. No dice. Nothing I've managed, short of typing in the tab character where I want it (after every Level 2 entry, before the page number) will make these dot leaders show up. I've deleted the whole Index of Markers and started over again (figuring I messed something up irreparably), no dice. No dot leaders. I would love any advice to make dot leaders behave themselves. Tina Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides tina at trialguides dot com office: 503.531.3233 cell: 503.890.5536 http://www.trialguides.com <http://www.trialguides.com/>
Frame 8 pagination in long book
Hi there, I'm working in Frame 8 with a long book that has many short files (1 to 10ish pages each). The files don't all have odd or even numbers of pages, they vary. --I want the pages to number sequentially, one to the end. --I don't care if the first pages of each file start on the left or the right. --I do have different left and right headers, so I've set these files up as 2-sided. --I don't want any blank pages. In Format Page Layout Pagination, I've set these files up as Double Sided. In the 1st Page Side drop-down, I can select Right or Left. I really want a third option that says Either one. For the moment, my files are set to Right, but that causes other problems. Under Before Saving Printing, I select Don't Change Page Count. However, when I re-generate the file, all these settings get re-set. If Frame needs a blank page at the end of one file so the next one can start on Right (which I don't care about anyway), it adds a blank and changes my Before Saving Printing setting to Make Page Count Even. One friend suggested I set the pagination at the book file level. However, if I right-click the book file, Pagination is grayed out. I really don't want the time-consuming job of setting these for each file separately (60 of them) and then re-setting and re-setting every time something changes and one file goes from odd to even and throws off the rest of the book. I just want the book to flow together, the files starting on either left or right as needed, with no blank pages. Does anyone know how to do this? Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides t...@trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame 8 pagination in long book
Hi there, I'm working in Frame 8 with a long book that has many short files (1 to 10ish pages each). The files don't all have odd or even numbers of pages, they vary. --I want the pages to number sequentially, one to the end. --I don't care if the first pages of each file start on the left or the right. --I do have different left and right headers, so I've set these files up as 2-sided. --I don't want any blank pages. In Format > Page Layout > Pagination, I've set these files up as Double Sided. In the 1st Page Side drop-down, I can select Right or Left. I really want a third option that says "Either one." For the moment, my files are set to Right, but that causes other problems. Under Before Saving & Printing, I select Don't Change Page Count. However, when I re-generate the file, all these settings get re-set. If Frame needs a blank page at the end of one file so the next one can start on Right (which I don't care about anyway), it adds a blank and changes my Before Saving & Printing setting to "Make Page Count Even." One friend suggested I set the pagination at the book file level. However, if I right-click the book file, Pagination is grayed out. I really don't want the time-consuming job of setting these for each file separately (60 of them) and then re-setting and re-setting every time something changes and one file goes from odd to even and throws off the rest of the book. I just want the book to flow together, the files starting on either left or right as needed, with no blank pages. Does anyone know how to do this? Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides tina at trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com <http://www.trialguides.com/>
Frame to iBook format?
Does anyone have any pointers to exporting Frame documents to the new iBook format for the as-yet-unavailable iPad? I know it's based on XML, but I'm searching for specifics, if there are any. Tina Ricks Tina Ricks, Managing Editor, Trial Guides t...@trialguides.com www.trialguides.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame to iBook format?
Does anyone have any pointers to exporting Frame documents to the new iBook format for the as-yet-unavailable iPad? I know it's based on XML, but I'm searching for specifics, if there are any. Tina Ricks Tina Ricks, Managing Editor, Trial Guides tina at trialguides.com www.trialguides.com
FM 9 vs. InDesign
Can anyone point me to a thorough comparison list of features between FM9 and InDesign? I'm using Frame primarily for print books at a small publisher, and using it because I know it and I'm familiar with it. I currently use Frame 8, and I'm considering an upgrade to either Frame 9 or InDesign. I've read that InDesign CS4 recently added cross references. Does anyone know how they compare to Frame's feature? Also, what about creating an index in InDesign. What features does it have for dynamic indexing? Thanks. Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides www.trialguides.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 9 vs. InDesign
Can anyone point me to a thorough comparison list of features between FM9 and InDesign? I'm using Frame primarily for print books at a small publisher, and using it because I know it and I'm familiar with it. I currently use Frame 8, and I'm considering an upgrade to either Frame 9 or InDesign. I've read that InDesign CS4 recently added cross references. Does anyone know how they compare to Frame's feature? Also, what about creating an index in InDesign. What features does it have for dynamic indexing? Thanks. Tina Ricks | Managing Editor | Trial Guides www.trialguides.com
Publishing a Frame book on the Amazon Kindle
Does anyone have experience with publishing a print book created in Frame for the Amazon Kindle? From what I've managed to figure out from the web, the output is HTML, and there are a lot of dos and don'ts available from Amazon. None of these, of course, refer to specific software that a book might be created in. It seems as if most of the traditional publishing world (big publishers like Random House, Harper, and so on) use InDesign, not FrameMaker. If anyone has tips or a useful site, please point me in that direction. Thanks. Tina Ricks | Editor | Trial Guides www.trialguides.com t...@trialguides.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Publishing a Frame book on the Amazon Kindle
Does anyone have experience with publishing a print book created in Frame for the Amazon Kindle? From what I've managed to figure out from the web, the output is HTML, and there are a lot of dos and don'ts available from Amazon. None of these, of course, refer to specific software that a book might be created in. It seems as if most of the traditional publishing world (big publishers like Random House, Harper, and so on) use InDesign, not FrameMaker. If anyone has tips or a useful site, please point me in that direction. Thanks. Tina Ricks | Editor | Trial Guides www.trialguides.com tina at trialguides.com
Three general documentation questions
Ian Saunders wrote: My team are reviewing the Frame templates we use for producing PDF files. It has been suggested that we: * Do not use chapter numbers/appendix letters * Begin main index entries with a capital letter * Put a logo (or message) on blank pages to show that they are not blank in error. For the first two issues, I'd recommend that you adopt a style manual for your organization. Every organization has a few house rules that go against the style manual, but hopefully they are few. I'd recommend either the Chicago Manual of Style, or the Microsoft Manual of Style for Technical Publications, Third Edition. Both are good and will likely address these issues. (Ok, and just from me, those first two issues seem ill-advised and non-standard.) On the blank pages issue, it depends on the most common use model for your PDFs. If you expect someone to print them out on a 2-sided printer, it makes sense for the blanks to be there. If you expect your reader to read online or print on a 1-sided printer, I'd vote to take the blanks out. I don't see a problem with blanks, and I hate This page intentionally left blank. Tina Ricks | Editor | Trial Guides t...@trialguides.com www.trialguides.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Three general documentation questions
Ian Saunders wrote: My team are reviewing the Frame templates we use for producing PDF files. It has been suggested that we: * Do not use chapter numbers/appendix letters * Begin main index entries with a capital letter * Put a logo (or message) on blank pages to show that they are not blank in error. For the first two issues, I'd recommend that you adopt a style manual for your organization. Every organization has a few house rules that go against the style manual, but hopefully they are few. I'd recommend either the Chicago Manual of Style, or the Microsoft Manual of Style for Technical Publications, Third Edition. Both are good and will likely address these issues. (Ok, and just from me, those first two issues seem ill-advised and non-standard.) On the blank pages issue, it depends on the most common use model for your PDFs. If you expect someone to print them out on a 2-sided printer, it makes sense for the blanks to be there. If you expect your reader to read online or print on a 1-sided printer, I'd vote to take the blanks out. I don't see a problem with blanks, and I hate "This page intentionally left blank." Tina Ricks | Editor | Trial Guides tina at trialguides.com www.trialguides.com
asterisks and footnote numbers
Hello, I'm doing editing and layout of a large set of academic papers that have loads of footnotes. The organization I'm working for wants to use both asterisks AND footnotes in the papers. An asterisk is usually after the paper title, and has notes about where this paper was previously published. Some papers have asterisks on the titles, some do not. The footnotes in the main body of the text are typical footnotes (source citations, etc.) and are numbered 1, 2, 3, etc. Frame doesn't handle this well. Footnote numbering (Format Document Numbering Footnote) either has numeric or custom (symbols) but not both mixed in the same footnote series. I tried setting up a custom numbering format (*1234 etc.) but Frame's numbering feature gives error messages when one chapter is different from the rest in the book, and changes it back to the way the rest of the book is. Has anyone dealt with this? Word actually allows symbols and numbers in the same series, but Frame doesn't. Tina Ricks, Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trial Guides www.trialguides.com http://www.trialguides.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
asterisks and footnote numbers
Hello, I'm doing editing and layout of a large set of academic papers that have loads of footnotes. The organization I'm working for wants to use both asterisks AND footnotes in the papers. An asterisk is usually after the paper title, and has notes about where this paper was previously published. Some papers have asterisks on the titles, some do not. The footnotes in the main body of the text are typical footnotes (source citations, etc.) and are numbered 1, 2, 3, etc. Frame doesn't handle this well. Footnote numbering (Format > Document > Numbering > Footnote) either has numeric or custom (symbols) but not both mixed in the same footnote series. I tried setting up a custom numbering format (*1234 etc.) but Frame's numbering feature gives error messages when one chapter is different from the rest in the book, and changes it back to the way the rest of the book is. Has anyone dealt with this? Word actually allows symbols and numbers in the same series, but Frame doesn't. Tina Ricks, Editor tina at trialguides.com Trial Guides www.trialguides.com <http://www.trialguides.com/>
Rotated graphics
Hi everyone, I'm importing graphs created in Excel. Works fine, life is good, they seem to import at the right size/shape, all is good. I have a few that I want to run landscape on the page. I import it into Frame (Copy in Excel, then Edit > Paste Special > Embedded Microsoft Graph Chart Object). OK so far. The quality is good, letters are smooth, no jagged edges, etc. Looks good printed, in PDF, etc. Then I rotate my graph sideways (right-click, rotate, counter-clockwise), and the quality goes terrible. My print vendor tells me those pages are at 150 dpi. Why would the quality suddenly change with a different orientation? I am not resizing anything by hand, just rotating. Ideas? Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides, LLC tina at trialguides.com
Rotated graphics
Sorry. nevermind. I figured it out. My first attempt who knows what I did. When I re-imported and rotated, it looks awful on the screen (and I have a very nice monitor), but looks fine in PDF and print. Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides, LLC tina at trialguides.com
Acrobat Pro reviewing tools bug?
I'm trying to attach a PDF (created in Frame 8) for email review using Acrobat Pro. I've had good luck so far, and all seems to be working as advertised, until I get to one particular PDF. This is a long book, created from Frame's File Save As PDF setting. I just created it, this is a new file. In Acrobat Pro, I select Review Comment Attach for Email Review (as I have done with several other PDF files created from Frame. it worked fine before). I get the Send by Email for Review Step 1 window, click Next, and then: This file cannot be part of an initiated review because it contains comments from an active Email-Based Review. Please choose another. But this is a new file. There aren't any comments in it-I just created it. It's not part of another email based review. I sent a copy of a file with this name to someone a few days ago. is Acrobat interpreting that this file has already been sent, so I can't send it again? Somehow, some flag is being set in this file and I don't know how to fix it. Ideas? Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Acrobat Pro reviewing tools bug?
I'm trying to attach a PDF (created in Frame 8) for email review using Acrobat Pro. I've had good luck so far, and all seems to be working as advertised, until I get to one particular PDF. This is a long book, created from Frame's File > Save As PDF setting. I just created it, this is a new file. In Acrobat Pro, I select Review & Comment > Attach for Email Review (as I have done with several other PDF files created from Frame. it worked fine before). I get the Send by Email for Review Step 1 window, click Next, and then: "This file cannot be part of an initiated review because it contains comments from an active Email-Based Review. Please choose another." But this is a new file. There aren't any comments in it-I just created it. It's not part of another email based review. I sent a copy of a file with this name to someone a few days ago. is Acrobat interpreting that this file has already been sent, so I can't send it again? Somehow, some flag is being set in this file and I don't know how to fix it. Ideas? Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides tina at trialguides.com
Installation issues: Acrobat Pro 8 on top of FM 8
Hi all I wrote yesterday about Word and the Acrobat markup tools for reviewers, and agreed with the consensus that Acrobat Pro 8 is the way to go for reviewing. So I ordered a copy (due here in a few days by snail mail). I also downloaded the 30 day trial so I can work with it now. When I try to install the free download of Acrobat Pro 8, I get this message: Setup has detected that you already have a more functional product installed. And then the install quits. What gives? I want Acrobat Pro. I bought it. I just want to install it. Does it matter which order FM8 and Acrobat Pro 8 get installed in? Do I have to de-install FM8, then install Acrobat Pro 8, then reinstall? There's no button to just tell Acrobat Pro 8 to install anyway. Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Installation issues: Acrobat Pro 8 on top of FM 8
Hi all I wrote yesterday about Word and the Acrobat markup tools for reviewers, and agreed with the consensus that Acrobat Pro 8 is the way to go for reviewing. So I ordered a copy (due here in a few days by snail mail). I also downloaded the 30 day trial so I can work with it now. When I try to install the free download of Acrobat Pro 8, I get this message: "Setup has detected that you already have a more functional product installed." And then the install quits. What gives? I want Acrobat Pro. I bought it. I just want to install it. Does it matter which order FM8 and Acrobat Pro 8 get installed in? Do I have to de-install FM8, then install Acrobat Pro 8, then reinstall? There's no button to just tell Acrobat Pro 8 to install anyway. Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides tina at trialguides.com
Export a FM book to single Word file?
I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put them back together by hand in Word. I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame RTF export. I've been researching the commenting features in Acrobat 8, and I keep coming across this statement: Commenting tools are only available in PDFs that have commenting enabled. OK. but it looks as if I can't enable commenting rights from the PDFs that come out of FM8's File Save as PDF feature (unless I'm missing something). I don't really want to buy full Acrobat just for this feature. Sending an enormous zip file of little Word documents isn't very efficient for the reader on the other end. There's no RTF option in File Save Book As. Ideas? Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Export a FM book to single Word file?
Thanks for input everyone. It seems that buying Acrobat Pro for the comments feature is the most stable and the cheapest answer, and my Word-loving reviewers will have to live with it. If I give them the choice of reviewing one PDF file with comments vs. 32 separate Word files, they'll choose the PDF. Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Export a FM book to single Word file?
I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put them back together by hand in Word. I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments electronically, and like it or not, Word is the lingua franca of most of the world. My reviewers are fine that the pages look a little weird in the Frame RTF export. I've been researching the commenting features in Acrobat 8, and I keep coming across this statement: "Commenting tools are only available in PDFs that have commenting enabled." OK. but it looks as if I can't enable commenting rights from the PDFs that come out of FM8's File > Save as PDF feature (unless I'm missing something). I don't really want to buy full Acrobat just for this feature. Sending an enormous zip file of little Word documents isn't very efficient for the reader on the other end. There's no RTF option in File > Save Book As. Ideas? Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides tina at trialguides.com
Export a FM book to single Word file?
Thanks for input everyone. It seems that buying Acrobat Pro for the comments feature is the most stable and the cheapest answer, and my Word-loving reviewers will have to live with it. If I give them the choice of reviewing one PDF file with comments vs. 32 separate Word files, they'll choose the PDF. Tina Ricks Editor, Trial Guides tina at trialguides.com
Text string in title case?
Hi all, I'm trying to put many text strings (book titles) throughout a long book into title case. I need to do this at the character level, not the paragraph. For example, changing THE TITLE OF THIS BOOK to The Title of This Book So. it needs to have some logic, i.e. knows to skip conjunctions like of and and etc. I can see in the character designer how to change a set of characters to small caps, lowercase, or uppercase. Does anyone know of a way to make this ability go one step further and become title case? Tina Ricks Editor Trial Guides, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Text string in title case?
Sorry... I wasn't clear. Search/replace won't work. It's lots and lots of different book titles, all throughout a 600 page manuscript. This is a legal textbook with loads of footnotes, which contain references to many other works. The previous author set all the book titles in all caps, now they need to be cap/lowercase (title case). So a search/replace doesn't work. I'm trying to avoid retyping all these titles. Seems like the best so far is to change the case to lower, and retype the initial caps where needed. Tina Ricks -Original Message- From: Mike Wickham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:02 PM To: Tina Ricks; Frame Users Subject: Re: Text string in title case? I must be misunderstanding you because it sounds like a simple Find/Change would do it. 1. In the Find/Change dialogue box, set Find to Text: The Title of This Book. Make sure the Consider Case checkbox is unchecked and Find/Change will find the phrase no matter what case it is. 2. In the Find/Change dialogue box, set Change to Text: The Title of This Book (capitalized the way you want). That will do it. Of course, if you've set Small Caps, Uppercase, or Lowercase in the Paragraph Format or Character Format that contains the phrase, the setting will override the intended result. 3. In the Find/Change dialogue, be sure that Book is selected. Then hit Find. Mike Wickham - Original Message - From: Tina Ricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:13 PM Subject: Text string in title case? Hi all, I'm trying to put many text strings (book titles) throughout a long book into title case. I need to do this at the character level, not the paragraph. For example, changing THE TITLE OF THIS BOOK to The Title of This Book So. it needs to have some logic, i.e. knows to skip conjunctions like of and and etc. I can see in the character designer how to change a set of characters to small caps, lowercase, or uppercase. Does anyone know of a way to make this ability go one step further and become title case? Tina Ricks Editor Trial Guides, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mewickham%40compuserve.c om Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Text string in title case?
Hi all, I'm trying to put many text strings (book titles) throughout a long book into title case. I need to do this at the character level, not the paragraph. For example, changing THE TITLE OF THIS BOOK to The Title of This Book So. it needs to have some logic, i.e. knows to skip conjunctions like "of" and "and" etc. I can see in the character designer how to change a set of characters to small caps, lowercase, or uppercase. Does anyone know of a way to make this ability go one step further and become title case? Tina Ricks Editor Trial Guides, LLC tina at trialguides.com
Text string in title case?
Sorry... I wasn't clear. Search/replace won't work. It's lots and lots of different book titles, all throughout a 600 page manuscript. This is a legal textbook with loads of footnotes, which contain references to many other works. The previous author set all the book titles in all caps, now they need to be cap/lowercase (title case). So a search/replace doesn't work. I'm trying to avoid retyping all these titles. Seems like the best so far is to change the case to lower, and retype the initial caps where needed. Tina Ricks -Original Message- From: Mike Wickham [mailto:mewick...@compuserve.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:02 PM To: Tina Ricks; Frame Users Subject: Re: Text string in title case? I must be misunderstanding you because it sounds like a simple Find/Change would do it. 1. In the Find/Change dialogue box, set Find to Text: "The Title of This Book." Make sure the "Consider Case" checkbox is unchecked and Find/Change will find the phrase no matter what case it is. 2. In the Find/Change dialogue box, set Change to Text: "The Title of This Book" (capitalized the way you want). That will do it. Of course, if you've set "Small Caps," "Uppercase," or "Lowercase" in the Paragraph Format or Character Format that contains the phrase, the setting will override the intended result. 3. In the Find/Change dialogue, be sure that "Book" is selected. Then hit Find. Mike Wickham - Original Message - From: "Tina Ricks" <kristina.ri...@verizon.net> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:13 PM Subject: Text string in title case? > > Hi all, > > > > I'm trying to put many text strings (book titles) throughout a long book > into title case. I need to do this at the character level, not the > paragraph. For example, changing > > > > THE TITLE OF THIS BOOK > > > > to > > > > The Title of This Book > > > > So. it needs to have some logic, i.e. knows to skip conjunctions like "of" > and "and" etc. > > > > I can see in the character designer how to change a set of characters to > small caps, lowercase, or uppercase. Does anyone know of a way to make > this > ability go one step further and become title case? > > > > Tina Ricks > > Editor > > Trial Guides, LLC > > tina at trialguides.com > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as mewickham at compuserve.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mewickham%40compuserve.c om > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Great News! Formatted index marker bug in FM8 fixed
Hi all, Just got off the phone with Adobe support, and the great news is that my bug with index markers appears to be fixed. I just installed the 8.0p273 patch (came out about 3 days ago). The issue is index markers formatted with character formats occasionally stack up incorrectly or disappear altogether. The fix (before) was just to remove all formatting from the markers. I installed the patch, formatted some particularly difficult index markers which always caused the bug before, and voila! My index entries are formatted correctly. Life is good. Tina Ricks Editor Trial Guides [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Great News! Formatted index marker bug in FM8 fixed
Hi all, Just got off the phone with Adobe support, and the great news is that my bug with index markers appears to be fixed. I just installed the 8.0p273 patch (came out about 3 days ago). The issue is index markers formatted with character formats occasionally "stack up" incorrectly or disappear altogether. The fix (before) was just to remove all formatting from the markers. I installed the patch, formatted some particularly difficult index markers which always caused the bug before, and voila! My index entries are formatted correctly. Life is good. Tina Ricks Editor Trial Guides tina at trialguides.com
Frame Bug in Index of Markers--disappearing index entries
Hi all, I've been chasing this bug for weeks, and I just tracked down exactly what causes it. Has anyone seen this? Sorry for the long explanation. I'm using Frame 8. Maybe that's the problem. I'm creating a bibliography for a legal textbook, using a custom marker type and the Index of Markers feature. If I have two identical markers (the same work cited in two places) then in my index of markers file I get: Duck, Donald, An Illustrated History of Disney, Disney Press (2000). 25, 106 (all is good so far) In the actual marker, I'd type: Duck, Donald, Small CapsAn Illustrated History of Disney,Default Para Font Disney Press (2000) If I have several markers with the following conditions: --Identical first two letters (so they all alphabetize together) --I use a character format at the beginning of the marker (for, say, the title of an article with no author cited) Then all the markers with the identical first two letters stack up underneath the first, as if they were identical. So instead of: Encarta World English Dictionary (etc.) 155 End of an Era? The Enron Verdict (etc.).200 Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room (etc.)...225 (all of these also have character formatting at the beginning of the marker, following the legal Blue Book citation standards) I actually get: Encarta World English Dictionary.. 155, 200, 225 When I follow the links for the other two page numbers back to their source markers, they are NOT the same as the one they stack up underneath. If I take the character formatting out of the markers, it all works fine. If I use character formatting later on in the marker (plain text for the first 2-3 words, formatted after), all is fine. I've spent endless amounts of time tracking this down. I've written all files out to mif and back. (Thanks to Frank Stearns at IXGen for that suggestion). I deleted all the bibliography markers and in the process of re-entering them, I figured this out. it has to do with character formatting and identical first two (or more) letters. Also, for whatever it's worth, this document originated in Word, and I imported it into Frame. Does anyone know of a workaround? Or am I stuck with no formatting in parts of my bibliography? Do I go back to Frame 7? Tina Ricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame Bug in Index of Markers--disappearing index entries
Hi all, I've been chasing this bug for weeks, and I just tracked down exactly what causes it. Has anyone seen this? Sorry for the long explanation. I'm using Frame 8. Maybe that's the problem. I'm creating a bibliography for a legal textbook, using a custom marker type and the Index of Markers feature. If I have two identical markers (the same work cited in two places) then in my index of markers file I get: Duck, Donald, An Illustrated History of Disney, Disney Press (2000). 25, 106 (all is good so far) In the actual marker, I'd type: Duck, Donald, An Illustrated History of Disney, Disney Press (2000) If I have several markers with the following conditions: --Identical first two letters (so they all alphabetize together) --I use a character format at the beginning of the marker (for, say, the title of an article with no author cited) Then all the markers with the identical first two letters "stack up" underneath the first, as if they were identical. So instead of: Encarta World English Dictionary (etc.) 155 End of an Era? The Enron Verdict (etc.).200 Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room (etc.)...225 (all of these also have character formatting at the beginning of the marker, following the legal Blue Book citation standards) I actually get: Encarta World English Dictionary.. 155, 200, 225 When I "follow" the links for the other two page numbers back to their source markers, they are NOT the same as the one they stack up underneath. If I take the character formatting out of the markers, it all works fine. If I use character formatting later on in the marker (plain text for the first 2-3 words, formatted after), all is fine. I've spent endless amounts of time tracking this down. I've written all files out to mif and back. (Thanks to Frank Stearns at IXGen for that suggestion). I deleted all the bibliography markers and in the process of re-entering them, I figured this out. it has to do with character formatting and identical first two (or more) letters. Also, for whatever it's worth, this document originated in Word, and I imported it into Frame. Does anyone know of a workaround? Or am I stuck with no formatting in parts of my bibliography? Do I go back to Frame 7? Tina Ricks kristina.ricks at verizon.net
forced line breaks, URLs, and justified text
Hi all, Would love some help with forced line breaks in justified text. The text is justified (not my choice, it's what the client wants). This is a textbook, and there are a lot of references to URLs. I'm trying to follow the Chicago Manual of Style's guidelines on breaks in URLs, which specifically says do not allow hyphenation (which would make the URL no longer correct), break at slashes, before periods, and so on. If I put in a line break (Ctrl-Enter), then Frame also discontinues the proportional spacing that makes the text justified, for that line only. I can add a slash to the allowed characters for line breaks (Format Document Text Options), but I can't add a period to the text options, or I get weird effects like a line break placing a lone right quote on the next line. Breaking at slashes doesn't always get a reasonable length line in a URL. I'm guessing this is the level of line and character control I would get with something like InDesign, but I couldn't stomach InDesign's lack of automatic cross references. Does anyone know how to do this in Frame-break lines exactly where I want them, but still maintain justified text? Tina Ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Editor Trial Guides, LLC 503-531-8485 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
forced line breaks, URLs, and justified text
Hi all, Would love some help with forced line breaks in justified text. The text is justified (not my choice, it's what the client wants). This is a textbook, and there are a lot of references to URLs. I'm trying to follow the Chicago Manual of Style's guidelines on breaks in URLs, which specifically says do not allow hyphenation (which would make the URL no longer correct), break at slashes, before periods, and so on. If I put in a line break (Ctrl-Enter), then Frame also discontinues the proportional spacing that makes the text justified, for that line only. I can add a slash to the allowed characters for line breaks (Format > Document > Text Options), but I can't add a period to the text options, or I get weird effects like a line break placing a lone right quote on the next line. Breaking at slashes doesn't always get a reasonable length line in a URL. I'm guessing this is the level of line and character control I would get with something like InDesign, but I couldn't stomach InDesign's lack of automatic cross references. Does anyone know how to do this in Frame-break lines exactly where I want them, but still maintain justified text? Tina Ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net Editor Trial Guides, LLC 503-531-8485
Footnote problem--long footnotes
Hi all, I'm laying out a manuscript in Frame 8 that is packed full of detailed footnotes. This author is fond of them, and one footnote in particular spans multiple pages. Word can allow footnotes to span pages. So far, it appears that Frame's footnotes can't span pages. I can't get into the merits of writing in long footnotes (whole 'nother discussion), I'm stuck with them, and I didn't write them. When I get a footnote that is longer than one page, even moving the maximum height as high as possible (Format Document Footnote Properties Maximum Height Per Column), Frame goes into Footnote Freefall. The extra-long footnote disappears, and all the other footnotes seem to lose their minds in the process. they go onto one page per footnote at the end of the document. Meaning they leave the bottoms of the pages throughout and go to the end, one footnote per page, thus adding about 15-20 extra pages to the end of my document, blank except for one footnote at the bottom of each. If I take out the now disappeared long footnote (by deleting the footnote reference in the text), all the other footnotes go back where they belong. Has anyone seen this? Any ideas about how to deal with long footnotes in Frame other than go back to the author and tell him to rewrite? Tina Tina Ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Editor Trial Guides, LLC 503-531-3233 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Footnote problem--long footnotes
Hi all, I'm laying out a manuscript in Frame 8 that is packed full of detailed footnotes. This author is fond of them, and one footnote in particular spans multiple pages. Word can allow footnotes to span pages. So far, it appears that Frame's footnotes can't span pages. I can't get into the merits of writing in long footnotes (whole 'nother discussion), I'm stuck with them, and I didn't write them. When I get a footnote that is longer than one page, even moving the maximum height as high as possible (Format > Document > Footnote Properties > Maximum Height Per Column), Frame goes into Footnote Freefall. The extra-long footnote disappears, and all the other footnotes seem to lose their minds in the process. they go onto one page per footnote at the end of the document. Meaning they leave the bottoms of the pages throughout and go to the end, one footnote per page, thus adding about 15-20 extra pages to the end of my document, blank except for one footnote at the bottom of each. If I take out the now disappeared long footnote (by deleting the footnote reference in the text), all the other footnotes go back where they belong. Has anyone seen this? Any ideas about how to deal with long footnotes in Frame other than go back to the author and tell him to rewrite? Tina Tina Ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net Editor Trial Guides, LLC 503-531-3233
Dictionary style layout in Frame
Hello Framers, I am laying out a print book with a reference section at the end, which includes the transcripts of 12,000 sequentially numbered PowerPoint slides (yes, that's 12,000, it will be several hundred pages). I'd like to do a dictionary style layout. I've got it in two columns, with running heads at the top of each page like a dictionary, showing the first and last entry on each page. Works great. What I can't figure out is the dictionary style separator between parts. I'd like to do a separator between each 1000 slides. I have two dictionaries and a thesaurus here that show this. When I go from G to H in a dictionary, for example, there is a horizontal separator across both columns and a great big letter H, and then the H words start. I can't do this with master pages, because the separator needs to flow with the text. Does that make any sense? If this was Word, I'd think of it like a floating section break. But it needs to go across two columns. Any ideas? Tina Ricks Editor Trial Guides, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Dictionary style layout in Frame
Hello Framers, I am laying out a print book with a reference section at the end, which includes the transcripts of 12,000 sequentially numbered PowerPoint slides (yes, that's 12,000, it will be several hundred pages). I'd like to do a dictionary style layout. I've got it in two columns, with running heads at the top of each page like a dictionary, showing the first and last entry on each page. Works great. What I can't figure out is the dictionary style separator between parts. I'd like to do a separator between each 1000 slides. I have two dictionaries and a thesaurus here that show this. When I go from G to H in a dictionary, for example, there is a horizontal separator across both columns and a great big letter H, and then the H words start. I can't do this with master pages, because the separator needs to "flow" with the text. Does that make any sense? If this was Word, I'd think of it like a floating section break. But it needs to go across two columns. Any ideas? Tina Ricks Editor Trial Guides, LLC kristina.ricks at verizon.net
Another Frame 8 bug--reversed Smart Quotes
Hi all, I've sent the following Frame 8 bug to Adobe, but now I need to figure out how to fix it in my documents. When I bring in Word text with the RTF import (Copy Paste Special RTF), randomly, the close quote marks are reversed. I can't duplicate this in email, but imagine the open quote looks just fine, and what should be a close quote at the other end of the passage is actually another open quote. This happens with both single and double quotes. So, that includes apostrophes, because they are the equivalent of a single close quote mark. This is also random and inconsistent. Sometimes it works fine. What I'm trying to do is search specifically for opening smart quotes, so I can find them and verify they're going the right direction. When I try this, Frame finds all quote marks, not just the opening ones, which makes this search process even more tedious. Is there any way to specify which quote marks I want to search for (opening or closing)? Tina tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Another Frame 8 bug--reversed Smart Quotes
Hi all, I've sent the following Frame 8 bug to Adobe, but now I need to figure out how to fix it in my documents. When I bring in Word text with the RTF import (Copy > Paste Special > RTF), randomly, the close quote marks are reversed. I can't duplicate this in email, but imagine the open quote looks just fine, and what should be a close quote at the other end of the passage is actually another open quote. This happens with both single and double quotes. So, that includes apostrophes, because they are the equivalent of a single close quote mark. This is also random and inconsistent. Sometimes it works fine. What I'm trying to do is search specifically for opening smart quotes, so I can find them and verify they're going the right direction. When I try this, Frame finds all quote marks, not just the opening ones, which makes this search process even more tedious. Is there any way to specify which quote marks I want to search for (opening or closing)? Tina tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net
Footnotes and frames
I'm working on a document with lots of footnotes. I have a block of text that is an full-page excerpt from another source, and the style we've established for this type of information is to put it in a box. I have a graphic frame (anchored) with a text frame inside that, with the text from another source. However, when I do this, the footnote that is in this excerpt gets all messed up. The numbering starts over at 1, and the footnote text appears at the bottom of the text frame, not at the bottom of the page with the other footnotes. I tried setting the whole thing in a table (another way to get a thin black line), and my footnote turns into a table footnote-it becomes a lowercase letter instead of a number, and the footnote text appears just below the table, and not at the bottom of the page. What I want is a black line around my text excerpt, and I want the footnote to be just like all the other footnotes, numbered correctly and appearing at the bottom of the page. The Frame help on footnotes isn't helpful. Would love some input from a Frame footnote expert, or some other way to get my text in a black box. Thanks. Tina tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 technical writing and editing ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Footnotes and frames
I'm working on a document with lots of footnotes. I have a block of text that is an full-page excerpt from another source, and the style we've established for this type of information is to put it in a box. I have a graphic frame (anchored) with a text frame inside that, with the text from another source. However, when I do this, the footnote that is in this excerpt gets all messed up. The numbering starts over at 1, and the footnote text appears at the bottom of the text frame, not at the bottom of the page with the other footnotes. I tried setting the whole thing in a table (another way to get a thin black line), and my footnote turns into a "table footnote"-it becomes a lowercase letter instead of a number, and the footnote text appears just below the table, and not at the bottom of the page. What I want is a black line around my text excerpt, and I want the footnote to be just like all the other footnotes, numbered correctly and appearing at the bottom of the page. The Frame help on footnotes isn't helpful. Would love some input from a Frame footnote expert, or some other way to get my text in a black box. Thanks. Tina tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233 technical writing and editing
Frame 8 bug: Importing RTF misplaces footnotes and index tags
Hi all, I found one more Frame 8 problem today, and was wondering if anyone has seen it or has a workaround. I'm importing RTF text, originally written in Word. There are a lot of footnotes and index references. In the RTF version, I might see this: And the author says, Blah blah blah blah.3 (where the 3 is a superscript footnote reference). After I import it to Frame, I get: And the author says, Blah blah blah b3lah. (where the 3 is a superscript footnote reference, randomly inserted in the middle of a word, usually within 5 places or so of where it had been before). This happens with index tags too, which after RTF import are now randomly in the middle of words instead of neatly at the beginning or end. I can see them in RTF in the right place, but they don't come across to Frame that way. Has anyone seen this or know of a workaround? Tina tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 technical writing and editing ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame 8 bug: Importing RTF misplaces footnotes and index tags
Yes, that's exactly right. The footnote reference ends up in a more or less random place, usually about three or four places back from where it was. The only fix I have is to do a global search on footnotes and look for them all to fix them. Kind of annoying. So far, it seems to only happen to footnote references and index references. The index references moving to the middle of a word is only annoying to me, no one else can see the tags. But the footnote references moving means that the RTF to Frame translation is introducing errors. Tina tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 technical writing and editing -Original Message- From: Alan Litchfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:44 PM To: Tina Ricks; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Frame 8 bug: Importing RTF misplaces footnotes and index tags So Tina, To get this right. You have opened the rtf file in a text editor, found the relevant footnote in the text and seen that it is positioned correctly. But when it is imported into FM8 it is moved to a more or less random location to within 5 places of the original location? If that is the case, this is a pretty serious problem. Much of the work I do involves importing rtf files, mainly from Word. Alan ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
I'm impressed with Adobe
Hi all, Just thought I'd update the list. Over the last few weeks of working with Frame 8, I've uncovered two bugs, the most recent of which was not being able to create a PDF file (File > Save As PDF) when there is a generated file in the book. After I got a workaround from this list, I also got an email from a QA person at Adobe, who is monitoring this list. I sent off my file to them, and they have verified the bug and are working on a fix. I've worked in software long enough to know that fixes don't happen overnight, and that there has never been a perfect piece of software in the history of the universe. I am impressed by their responsiveness though, the fact that they are following this list, and they're actively paying attention to bugs. Tina tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233 technical writing and editing
Problems with PDF
I'm using Frame 8. I have a book (28 chapters) with a TOC. I'm creating a PDF using the File Save As PDF command. I can make a PDF of the TOC on its own. Works fine. I can make a PDF of any file in the book. If I take the TOC out of the book, I can make a PDF of the whole book. If I put the TOC in the book, I get this message in the log file where the TOC starts: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: Rect ]%% (Then a whole lot of other undecipherable stuff in the log file that I can include if anyone thinks it's relevant). Any ideas? Tina Ricks tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Problems with PDF
Hi all-- Schlomo's fix worked. I turned on tagged PDF, and now I can create a PDF that includes a generated file. Life is good, thanks! Tina tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 technical writing and editing ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Problems with PDF
Hi all-- Schlomo's fix worked. I turned on tagged PDF, and now I can create a PDF that includes a generated file. Life is good, thanks! Tina tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233 technical writing and editing
Problems with PDF
I'm using Frame 8. I have a book (28 chapters) with a TOC. I'm creating a PDF using the File > Save As PDF command. I can make a PDF of the TOC on its own. Works fine. I can make a PDF of any file in the book. If I take the TOC out of the book, I can make a PDF of the whole book. If I put the TOC in the book, I get this message in the log file where the TOC starts: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: Rect ]%% (Then a whole lot of other undecipherable stuff in the log file that I can include if anyone thinks it's relevant). Any ideas? Tina Ricks tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233
Help with footnote numbers
I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format Document Footnote Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character styles don't seem to have any effect. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Tina tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Help with footnote numbers
I'm looking for help with footnote reference numbers. The footnote reference is the superscript number that appears in the main text. The footnote body is the text that appears at the bottom of the page. I've got the footnote body set to 10 points (Format > Document > Footnote Properties). Unfortunately, this means (I think) that the footnote reference (in the main text) is also 10 point superscript. I'd like to make just the reference number smaller, but I can't find a setting for that separate from the footnote text. If I try to highlight just the reference number to apply a character style to it, Frame selects the footnote body also. and character styles don't seem to have any effect. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Tina tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233
Need help with text justification
OK, I'm new to Frame 8 after a long hiatus (the last version I used was 6). I am laying out a printed book (no XML, nothing fancy, just a book for print). The client wants the right and left edges justified. In the paragraph designer for my various styles, I've set the following: Basic tab: --Alignment is Justified. Advanced tab: --Automatic Hyphenation is selected. (I just accepted the defaults for the hyphenation settings). --Allow Automatic Letter Spacing is selected (and again I took the system defaults on the settings). The problem is that in Frame, on the screen, my right edge is knife-edge perfect. Looks fabulous. Life is good. When I output to PDF or print directly from Frame, the right edge is wiggly. It's not as ragged as it was before with the text un-justified, but it certainly isn't what the client wants. What setting have I missed? Any ideas? Tina tina ricks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 503-531-3233 technical writing and editing ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Need help with text justification
OK, I'm new to Frame 8 after a long hiatus (the last version I used was 6). I am laying out a printed book (no XML, nothing fancy, just a book for print). The client wants the right and left edges justified. In the paragraph designer for my various styles, I've set the following: Basic tab: --Alignment is Justified. Advanced tab: --Automatic Hyphenation is selected. (I just accepted the defaults for the hyphenation settings). --Allow Automatic Letter Spacing is selected (and again I took the system defaults on the settings). The problem is that in Frame, on the screen, my right edge is knife-edge perfect. Looks fabulous. Life is good. When I output to PDF or print directly from Frame, the right edge is wiggly. It's not as ragged as it was before with the text un-justified, but it certainly isn't what the client wants. What setting have I missed? Any ideas? Tina tina ricks | kristina.ricks at verizon.net | 503-531-3233 technical writing and editing
