Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Peter Gold]

I first saw FM in 1989 on a Sun. Also Interleaf. Tech pubs was evaluating
both, against their established unix text-based workflow (vi and others),
that used UNIX scripts to perform miraculous manipulations, and
author-embedded dot-commands to format output with customized xroff. A few
of us got to try FrameMaker 2.x on a Mac; Windows at that time and PCs it
ran were too wimpy to handle FM.

Around 1994, I had a NeXT, SPARCstation, IBM-PC, and Mac on my tech-support
desk, all with at least one FM version.

One of the best "AHA!" FM moments I had: A student who came to our
Sun-based classroom for FM training demanded a Mac, because UNIX was scary.
Couldn't make the case that "it's the same on all platforms." So, we got it
done ASAP. One new problem: The student saw that FM on all the UNIX
machines were working exactly as on the Mac, so they demanded we swap back
to a UNIX machine. Huh? Why? "Well, I can add 'UNIX proficiency' to my
resume!"

Remember Marshall McCluhan's 1960's rephrasing of, "We shape our tools,
and, thereafter, our tools shape us," into "We ape our tools, and,
thereafter, our tools ape us?" FrameMaker is one of those, IMO.

Thanks for all the memory-spurs, folks. Yes, this one of the unique
Internet zones that abounds in helpfulness rather than snarky flame wars.


On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 7:16 AM Jerilynne Knight 
wrote:

> Wow, it's amazing to see all the memories coming up! My first use was in
> '92, although I'm not sure of the version # persactly! For some reason I
> want to think it was 4 or 5. And Syed...haven't heard the term "Interleaf"
> in ages, although I remember the discussions around it!
>
> 
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Jerilynne Knight]

Hey there Lin...we started fairly close to each other tho! And I'm with you
on the love of WordPerfect!



On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:15 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> Started with, I think, Frame 5.5.2, so I'm a relative newbie compared to
> you hoary folks. Before that I was using WordPerfect (a program I still
> have a strong love for).
>
> And I'm sorry to report that FM's spell checker, at least as of FM2019, no
> longer suggests FrameMaker for Interleaf. Interleaf is still marked as a
> possible misspelling, but the new top suggestion is "Inter-leaf". Internet,
> Interlinear, and Interfile are also suggested.
>
> (And I remember that Frame 6 for Mac Patrick and Kay Ethier!)
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Jerilynne Knight]

Me too darlin!!!

Have a fantabulous day...

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On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:48 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> Reveal codes were so awesome. I still miss them. I even edited in the
> reveal codes pane.
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:34 AM Edwards, Patrick H 
> wrote:
>
> > Frame 5.1.1, and oh man WordPerfect as well. I won a copy of Frame 6 for
> > Mac at the FrameMaker Chautauqua one year, handed to me by Kay Ethier.
> > Seems like yesterday
> >
> > On 4/2/20, 10:16 AM, "Framers on behalf of Lin Sims"
> >  > ljsims...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Started with, I think, Frame 5.5.2, so I'm a relative newbie compared
> > to
> > you hoary folks. Before that I was using WordPerfect (a program I
> still
> > have a strong love for).
> >
> > And I'm sorry to report that FM's spell checker, at least as of
> > FM2019, no
> > longer suggests FrameMaker for Interleaf. Interleaf is still marked
> as
> > a
> > possible misspelling, but the new top suggestion is "Inter-leaf".
> > Internet,
> > Interlinear, and Interfile are also suggested.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:09 AM Paul Wilbraham <
> > paul.wilbra...@m-ais.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Echo that.
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Wilbraham
> > > Senior Consultant & Trainer
> > > M-AIS
> > > T: 0131 226 5893
> > > M: 07928 797 281
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 15:12, Craig Ede 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I had a Windows copy of Frame 3 tossed to me by my company's Tech
> > Pubs
> > > > manager back in 1991 or 1992. "They say this is better than
> > PageMaker.
> > > > Check it out!" I was immediately sold on it and I didn't even
> work
> > for
> > > his
> > > > department. They shifted over after they saw what I was doing
> with
> > it.
> > > >
> > > > My personal purchased Windows from 1992 was for Windows and on
> > disks.
> > > >
> > > > The suggestion to change Interleaf to FrameMaker is still
> > operative when
> > > > running spellcheck in FM10, which is the version I happen to have
> > on this
> > > > machine. It's probably still in there today. Why fix what ain't
> > broken.
> > > >
> > > > Craig
> > > > 
> > > > Sed Zaeem Hosain said..
> > > >
> > > > For me, it was 1988 (FM version 3, I think?) on a Sun 3/50 (the
> > one where
> > > > the B/W monitor was physically attached to the top of the
> computer
> > > chassis
> > > > pizza box).
> > > >
> > > > Peter, the first Windows version was FM 4, I think ... I beta
> > tested it
> > > > for Frame Technology then. Came on floppy disks (I think I still
> > have
> > > them
> > > > around here somewhere)!
> > > >
> > > > Side-bar for those who remember the competition: when you ran
> > spell-check
> > > > in FM 3, it would correct the word "Interleaf" to "FrameMaker".
> :)
> > > >
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Lin Sims]

Reveal codes were so awesome. I still miss them. I even edited in the
reveal codes pane.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:34 AM Edwards, Patrick H 
wrote:

> Frame 5.1.1, and oh man WordPerfect as well. I won a copy of Frame 6 for
> Mac at the FrameMaker Chautauqua one year, handed to me by Kay Ethier.
> Seems like yesterday
>
> On 4/2/20, 10:16 AM, "Framers on behalf of Lin Sims"
>  ljsims...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Started with, I think, Frame 5.5.2, so I'm a relative newbie compared
> to
> you hoary folks. Before that I was using WordPerfect (a program I still
> have a strong love for).
>
> And I'm sorry to report that FM's spell checker, at least as of
> FM2019, no
> longer suggests FrameMaker for Interleaf. Interleaf is still marked as
> a
> possible misspelling, but the new top suggestion is "Inter-leaf".
> Internet,
> Interlinear, and Interfile are also suggested.
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:09 AM Paul Wilbraham <
> paul.wilbra...@m-ais.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Echo that.
> >
> >
> > Paul Wilbraham
> > Senior Consultant & Trainer
> > M-AIS
> > T: 0131 226 5893
> > M: 07928 797 281
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 15:12, Craig Ede  wrote:
> >
> > > I had a Windows copy of Frame 3 tossed to me by my company's Tech
> Pubs
> > > manager back in 1991 or 1992. "They say this is better than
> PageMaker.
> > > Check it out!" I was immediately sold on it and I didn't even work
> for
> > his
> > > department. They shifted over after they saw what I was doing with
> it.
> > >
> > > My personal purchased Windows from 1992 was for Windows and on
> disks.
> > >
> > > The suggestion to change Interleaf to FrameMaker is still
> operative when
> > > running spellcheck in FM10, which is the version I happen to have
> on this
> > > machine. It's probably still in there today. Why fix what ain't
> broken.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > > 
> > > Sed Zaeem Hosain said..
> > >
> > > For me, it was 1988 (FM version 3, I think?) on a Sun 3/50 (the
> one where
> > > the B/W monitor was physically attached to the top of the computer
> > chassis
> > > pizza box).
> > >
> > > Peter, the first Windows version was FM 4, I think ... I beta
> tested it
> > > for Frame Technology then. Came on floppy disks (I think I still
> have
> > them
> > > around here somewhere)!
> > >
> > > Side-bar for those who remember the competition: when you ran
> spell-check
> > > in FM 3, it would correct the word "Interleaf" to "FrameMaker". :)
> > >
> > > Z
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Edwards, Patrick H]

Frame 5.1.1, and oh man WordPerfect as well. I won a copy of Frame 6 for Mac at 
the FrameMaker Chautauqua one year, handed to me by Kay Ethier. Seems like 
yesterday

On 4/2/20, 10:16 AM, "Framers on behalf of Lin Sims" 
 wrote:

Started with, I think, Frame 5.5.2, so I'm a relative newbie compared to
you hoary folks. Before that I was using WordPerfect (a program I still
have a strong love for).

And I'm sorry to report that FM's spell checker, at least as of FM2019, no
longer suggests FrameMaker for Interleaf. Interleaf is still marked as a
possible misspelling, but the new top suggestion is "Inter-leaf". Internet,
Interlinear, and Interfile are also suggested.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:09 AM Paul Wilbraham 
wrote:

> Echo that.
>
>
> Paul Wilbraham
> Senior Consultant & Trainer
> M-AIS
> T: 0131 226 5893
> M: 07928 797 281
>
>
> On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 15:12, Craig Ede  wrote:
>
> > I had a Windows copy of Frame 3 tossed to me by my company's Tech Pubs
> > manager back in 1991 or 1992. "They say this is better than PageMaker.
> > Check it out!" I was immediately sold on it and I didn't even work for
> his
> > department. They shifted over after they saw what I was doing with it.
> >
> > My personal purchased Windows from 1992 was for Windows and on disks.
> >
> > The suggestion to change Interleaf to FrameMaker is still operative when
> > running spellcheck in FM10, which is the version I happen to have on 
this
> > machine. It's probably still in there today. Why fix what ain't broken.
> >
> > Craig
> > 
> > Sed Zaeem Hosain said..
> >
> > For me, it was 1988 (FM version 3, I think?) on a Sun 3/50 (the one 
where
> > the B/W monitor was physically attached to the top of the computer
> chassis
> > pizza box).
> >
> > Peter, the first Windows version was FM 4, I think ... I beta tested it
> > for Frame Technology then. Came on floppy disks (I think I still have
> them
> > around here somewhere)!
> >
> > Side-bar for those who remember the competition: when you ran 
spell-check
> > in FM 3, it would correct the word "Interleaf" to "FrameMaker". :)
> >
> > Z
> >
> >
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Lin Sims]

Started with, I think, Frame 5.5.2, so I'm a relative newbie compared to
you hoary folks. Before that I was using WordPerfect (a program I still
have a strong love for).

And I'm sorry to report that FM's spell checker, at least as of FM2019, no
longer suggests FrameMaker for Interleaf. Interleaf is still marked as a
possible misspelling, but the new top suggestion is "Inter-leaf". Internet,
Interlinear, and Interfile are also suggested.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 11:09 AM Paul Wilbraham 
wrote:

> Echo that.
>
>
> Paul Wilbraham
> Senior Consultant & Trainer
> M-AIS
> T: 0131 226 5893
> M: 07928 797 281
>
>
> On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 15:12, Craig Ede  wrote:
>
> > I had a Windows copy of Frame 3 tossed to me by my company's Tech Pubs
> > manager back in 1991 or 1992. "They say this is better than PageMaker.
> > Check it out!" I was immediately sold on it and I didn't even work for
> his
> > department. They shifted over after they saw what I was doing with it.
> >
> > My personal purchased Windows from 1992 was for Windows and on disks.
> >
> > The suggestion to change Interleaf to FrameMaker is still operative when
> > running spellcheck in FM10, which is the version I happen to have on this
> > machine. It's probably still in there today. Why fix what ain't broken.
> >
> > Craig
> > 
> > Sed Zaeem Hosain said..
> >
> > For me, it was 1988 (FM version 3, I think?) on a Sun 3/50 (the one where
> > the B/W monitor was physically attached to the top of the computer
> chassis
> > pizza box).
> >
> > Peter, the first Windows version was FM 4, I think ... I beta tested it
> > for Frame Technology then. Came on floppy disks (I think I still have
> them
> > around here somewhere)!
> >
> > Side-bar for those who remember the competition: when you ran spell-check
> > in FM 3, it would correct the word "Interleaf" to "FrameMaker". :)
> >
> > Z
> >
> >
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Paul Wilbraham]

Echo that.


Paul Wilbraham
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On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 15:12, Craig Ede  wrote:

> I had a Windows copy of Frame 3 tossed to me by my company's Tech Pubs
> manager back in 1991 or 1992. "They say this is better than PageMaker.
> Check it out!" I was immediately sold on it and I didn't even work for his
> department. They shifted over after they saw what I was doing with it.
>
> My personal purchased Windows from 1992 was for Windows and on disks.
>
> The suggestion to change Interleaf to FrameMaker is still operative when
> running spellcheck in FM10, which is the version I happen to have on this
> machine. It's probably still in there today. Why fix what ain't broken.
>
> Craig
> 
> Sed Zaeem Hosain said..
>
> For me, it was 1988 (FM version 3, I think?) on a Sun 3/50 (the one where
> the B/W monitor was physically attached to the top of the computer chassis
> pizza box).
>
> Peter, the first Windows version was FM 4, I think ... I beta tested it
> for Frame Technology then. Came on floppy disks (I think I still have them
> around here somewhere)!
>
> Side-bar for those who remember the competition: when you ran spell-check
> in FM 3, it would correct the word "Interleaf" to "FrameMaker". :)
>
> Z
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Craig Ede]

I had a Windows copy of Frame 3 tossed to me by my company's Tech Pubs manager 
back in 1991 or 1992. "They say this is better than PageMaker. Check it out!" I 
was immediately sold on it and I didn't even work for his department. They 
shifted over after they saw what I was doing with it.

My personal purchased Windows from 1992 was for Windows and on disks.

The suggestion to change Interleaf to FrameMaker is still operative when 
running spellcheck in FM10, which is the version I happen to have on this 
machine. It's probably still in there today. Why fix what ain't broken.

Craig

Sed Zaeem Hosain said..

For me, it was 1988 (FM version 3, I think?) on a Sun 3/50 (the one where the 
B/W monitor was physically attached to the top of the computer chassis pizza 
box).

Peter, the first Windows version was FM 4, I think ... I beta tested it for 
Frame Technology then. Came on floppy disks (I think I still have them around 
here somewhere)!

Side-bar for those who remember the competition: when you ran spell-check in FM 
3, it would correct the word "Interleaf" to "FrameMaker". :)

Z


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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

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You would think I knew that after all these years  :-)


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> For me, it was 1988 (FM version 3, I think?) on a Sun 3/50 (the one where the 
> B/W monitor was physically attached to the top of the computer chassis pizza 
> box).
> 
> Peter, the first Windows version was FM 4, I think ... I beta tested it for 
> Frame Technology then. Came on floppy disks (I think I still have them around 
> here somewhere)!
> 
> Side-bar for those who remember the competition: when you ran 
> spell-check in FM 3, it would correct the word "Interleaf" to 
> "FrameMaker". :)
> 
> Z
> 
> Robert Lauriston said:
> I believe the first time I used FrameMaker it was version 2.0 on a Next cube.
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:53 PM Peter Gold  
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>> FM 3 on Unix, Mac, and Windows. Do we win anything other than being 
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

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> For me, it was 1988 (FM version 3, I think?) on a Sun 3/50 (the one where the 
> B/W monitor was physically attached to the top of the computer chassis pizza 
> box).
> 
> Peter, the first Windows version was FM 4, I think ... I beta tested it for 
> Frame Technology then. Came on floppy disks (I think I still have them around 
> here somewhere)!
> 
> Side-bar for those who remember the competition: when you ran spell-check in 
> FM 3, it would correct the word "Interleaf" to "FrameMaker". :)
> 
> Z
> 
> Robert Lauriston said:
> I believe the first time I used FrameMaker it was version 2.0 on a Next cube.
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:53 PM Peter Gold  
>> wrote:
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

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For me, it was 1988 (FM version 3, I think?) on a Sun 3/50 (the one where the 
B/W monitor was physically attached to the top of the computer chassis pizza 
box).

Peter, the first Windows version was FM 4, I think ... I beta tested it for 
Frame Technology then. Came on floppy disks (I think I still have them around 
here somewhere)!

Side-bar for those who remember the competition: when you ran spell-check in FM 
3, it would correct the word "Interleaf" to "FrameMaker". :)

Z

Robert Lauriston said:
I believe the first time I used FrameMaker it was version 2.0 on a Next cube.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:53 PM Peter Gold  wrote:
> Some of us are old enough to remember using Escape-key sequences with 
> FM 3 on Unix, Mac, and Windows. Do we win anything other than being 
> grateful that our memories are still functioning? BOOM! ;)
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

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For me, it was 1988 (FM version 3, I think?) on a Sun 3/50 (the one where the 
B/W monitor was physically attached to the top of the computer chassis pizza 
box).

Peter, the first Windows version was FM 4, I think ... I beta tested it for 
Frame Technology then. Came on floppy disks (I think I still have them around 
here somewhere)!

Side-bar for those who remember the competition: when you ran spell-check in FM 
3, it would correct the word "Interleaf" to "FrameMaker". :)

Z

Robert Lauriston said:
I believe the first time I used FrameMaker it was version 2.0 on a Next cube.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:53 PM Peter Gold  wrote:
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> FM 3 on Unix, Mac, and Windows. Do we win anything other than being 
> grateful that our memories are still functioning? BOOM! ;)
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Jerilynne Knight]

Wow, it's amazing to see all the memories coming up! My first use was in
'92, although I'm not sure of the version # persactly! For some reason I
want to think it was 4 or 5. And Syed...haven't heard the term "Interleaf"
in ages, although I remember the discussions around it!


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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Simon BUCH]

Hello everybody,

I have found that the standard Windows 10 setting for making font sizes 
larger affects not only the text, but also affects the Adobe "Glass" 
user interface - where clicking one menu heading would open the menu a 
distance away from where you had clicked.


That behaviour was exacerbated when using "Touch" user interface, and 
especially with very large displays.


// Simon BUCH


On 02/04/2020 00:37, Jerilynne Knight wrote:

Oh my Robert...I didn't start at that point, so you win the prize!

Note on the posted issue:  I've got the book window displaying properly
now. Thanks oodles & bunches to each of you who gave me ideas on things to
try! You rock socks!

What I did...


1. From the Windows font settings, I selected the recommended size
(1920x1080) and 100% font size.
2. Restarted Windows 10 and waited for updates to be applied.
3. Opened Frame 2015.
4. Selected Edit > Preferences.
5. Under Monitor Size, selected 22" (don't know that it matters).
6. Clicked OK.
7. Closed Frame 2015.
8. Opened Frame 2015.
9. Selected Edit > Preferences.
10. Under Monitor Size, selected Default.
11. Clicked OK.
12. Verified that all looked honkey dorey.
13. Closed Frame 2015.
14. Opened Frame 2015.
15. Did a butt dance from sheer joy.

Note: I one thing I neglected to do was open Frame BEFORE I applied all the
various Windows updates hooey-phooey. OOPS!



On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 7:23 PM Robert Lauriston 
wrote:


I believe the first time I used FrameMaker it was version 2.0 on a Next
cube.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:53 PM Peter Gold 
wrote:

Some of us are old enough to remember using Escape-key sequences with FM

3

on Unix, Mac, and Windows. Do we win anything other than being grateful
that our memories are still functioning? BOOM! ;)

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

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LOL. Count me in on this memory, that's for sure!Sent from Samsung Galaxy 
smartphone.
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us are old enough to remember using Escape-key sequences with FM 3on Unix, Mac, 
and Windows. Do we win anything other than being gratefulthat our memories are 
still functioning? BOOM! ;)On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 4:40 PM Jerilynne Knight 
wrote:> Thanks for all the responses...I'll walk 
through each them in turn in the> morning when my brain cells aren't on 
overload! I so appreciate all of you> and hope you're staying sane, safe, and 
healthy in this ever-so-challenging> time.>> P.S. One thing I found odd in this 
situation is that none of the other> interface elements show any issues, either 
too big OR too small.> Hum...technology. Ain't it grand when it just works? And 
when it doesn't,> BOOM, to the moon (for those of you of sufficient age to 
remember that> reference).>> Have a fantabulous day...>> Jerilynne Knight> The 
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

For me, it was 1988 (FM version 3, I think?) on a Sun 3/50 (the one where the 
B/W monitor was physically attached to the top of the computer chassis pizza 
box).

Peter, the first Windows version was FM 4, I think ... I beta tested it for 
Frame Technology then. Came on floppy disks (I think I still have them around 
here somewhere)!

Side-bar for those who remember the competition: when you ran spell-check in FM 
3, it would correct the word "Interleaf" to "FrameMaker". :)

Z

Robert Lauriston said:
I believe the first time I used FrameMaker it was version 2.0 on a Next cube.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:53 PM Peter Gold  wrote:
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> FM 3 on Unix, Mac, and Windows. Do we win anything other than being 
> grateful that our memories are still functioning? BOOM! ;)
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Jerilynne Knight]

Oh my Robert...I didn't start at that point, so you win the prize!

Note on the posted issue:  I've got the book window displaying properly
now. Thanks oodles & bunches to each of you who gave me ideas on things to
try! You rock socks!

What I did...


   1. From the Windows font settings, I selected the recommended size
   (1920x1080) and 100% font size.
   2. Restarted Windows 10 and waited for updates to be applied.
   3. Opened Frame 2015.
   4. Selected Edit > Preferences.
   5. Under Monitor Size, selected 22" (don't know that it matters).
   6. Clicked OK.
   7. Closed Frame 2015.
   8. Opened Frame 2015.
   9. Selected Edit > Preferences.
   10. Under Monitor Size, selected Default.
   11. Clicked OK.
   12. Verified that all looked honkey dorey.
   13. Closed Frame 2015.
   14. Opened Frame 2015.
   15. Did a butt dance from sheer joy.

Note: I one thing I neglected to do was open Frame BEFORE I applied all the
various Windows updates hooey-phooey. OOPS!



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> cube.
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> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:53 PM Peter Gold 
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> 3
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

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I believe the first time I used FrameMaker it was version 2.0 on a Next cube.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 2:53 PM Peter Gold  wrote:
>
> Some of us are old enough to remember using Escape-key sequences with FM 3
> on Unix, Mac, and Windows. Do we win anything other than being grateful
> that our memories are still functioning? BOOM! ;)
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Peter Gold]

Some of us are old enough to remember using Escape-key sequences with FM 3
on Unix, Mac, and Windows. Do we win anything other than being grateful
that our memories are still functioning? BOOM! ;)

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 4:40 PM Jerilynne Knight 
wrote:

> Thanks for all the responses...I'll walk through each them in turn in the
> morning when my brain cells aren't on overload! I so appreciate all of you
> and hope you're staying sane, safe, and healthy in this ever-so-challenging
> time.
>
> P.S. One thing I found odd in this situation is that none of the other
> interface elements show any issues, either too big OR too small.
> Hum...technology. Ain't it grand when it just works? And when it doesn't,
> BOOM, to the moon (for those of you of sufficient age to remember that
> reference).
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Jerilynne Knight]

Thanks for all the responses...I'll walk through each them in turn in the
morning when my brain cells aren't on overload! I so appreciate all of you
and hope you're staying sane, safe, and healthy in this ever-so-challenging
time.

P.S. One thing I found odd in this situation is that none of the other
interface elements show any issues, either too big OR too small.
Hum...technology. Ain't it grand when it just works? And when it doesn't,
BOOM, to the moon (for those of you of sufficient age to remember that
reference).

Have a fantabulous day...

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Robert Lauriston]

If you increased the text size in the Display control panel to
something higher than the default 100%, FrameMaker doesn't know how to
adjust the book window for the larger size.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:16 PM Jerilynne Knight
 wrote:
>
> I did putz and fiddle with some of display settings and didn't see any
> changes (including closing & reopening Frame):
>
> This is what I'm seeing:
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/19wDICIUJwOnFVZ81xmWdCPpIYIay4D7R/view?usp=sharing
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Peter Gold]

Looks like the font's too big for the leading. So...

1) where are the UI font settings kept?

2) do they change with monitor and/or FM installations?

3) is there a UI font-substitution statement for when a specified font
isn't installed?

3a) is the specified font an older version; is a newer one available?

HTH


On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 2:34 PM Lin Sims  wrote:

> Huh. I don't know that I've seen that before.
>
> My first guess would be to check and make sure you have all the updates
> installed. I think you only need the latest one, since at some point Adobe
> went with cumulative instead of sequential updates.
>
> My second would be to check your display drivers. Make sure they are
> up-to-date, especially since you say you have new monitors.
>
> My third would be to reset the preferences folder by deleting it.
> C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\## (I think this is
> 13 for FM2015).
>
> Not sure I have a fourth.
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:16 PM Jerilynne Knight <
> jerilynne.kni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Lordy, it's been so long since I used "Reply All" that I sent my response
> > directly to Peter. Duh, lol.
> >
> > I did putz and fiddle with some of display settings and didn't see any
> > changes (including closing & reopening Frame):
> >
> > This is what I'm seeing:
> >
> >
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/19wDICIUJwOnFVZ81xmWdCPpIYIay4D7R/view?usp=sharing
> >
> > Have a fantabulous day...
> >
> > Jerilynne Knight
> > The Encourager
> > 317.593.5551
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:46 PM Peter Gold 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > If your UI is too small, maybe you need a bigger boat, like in "Jaws"?
> ;)
> > >
> > > Seriously, if fiddling with screen resolution doesn't fix the problem,
> > > consider posting your screenshot to a location like Dropbox, and post
> the
> > > link here.
> > >
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Lin Sims]

Huh. I don't know that I've seen that before.

My first guess would be to check and make sure you have all the updates
installed. I think you only need the latest one, since at some point Adobe
went with cumulative instead of sequential updates.

My second would be to check your display drivers. Make sure they are
up-to-date, especially since you say you have new monitors.

My third would be to reset the preferences folder by deleting it.
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\## (I think this is
13 for FM2015).

Not sure I have a fourth.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:16 PM Jerilynne Knight 
wrote:

> Lordy, it's been so long since I used "Reply All" that I sent my response
> directly to Peter. Duh, lol.
>
> I did putz and fiddle with some of display settings and didn't see any
> changes (including closing & reopening Frame):
>
> This is what I'm seeing:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/19wDICIUJwOnFVZ81xmWdCPpIYIay4D7R/view?usp=sharing
>
> Have a fantabulous day...
>
> Jerilynne Knight
> The Encourager
> 317.593.5551
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:46 PM Peter Gold 
> wrote:
>
> > If your UI is too small, maybe you need a bigger boat, like in "Jaws"? ;)
> >
> > Seriously, if fiddling with screen resolution doesn't fix the problem,
> > consider posting your screenshot to a location like Dropbox, and post the
> > link here.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Jerilynne Knight]

Lordy, it's been so long since I used "Reply All" that I sent my response
directly to Peter. Duh, lol.

I did putz and fiddle with some of display settings and didn't see any
changes (including closing & reopening Frame):

This is what I'm seeing:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19wDICIUJwOnFVZ81xmWdCPpIYIay4D7R/view?usp=sharing

Have a fantabulous day...

Jerilynne Knight
The Encourager
317.593.5551


On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:46 PM Peter Gold 
wrote:

> If your UI is too small, maybe you need a bigger boat, like in "Jaws"? ;)
>
> Seriously, if fiddling with screen resolution doesn't fix the problem,
> consider posting your screenshot to a location like Dropbox, and post the
> link here.
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Jerilynne Knight]

Hey there Peter, and the FrameMaker group:

This is what I'm seeing on the screen and I putzed with some of the
standard Windows display settings and nothing changed (at least on anything
I tried and the resolution is set to the highest resolution possible,
1920x1080).

Thanks in advance!

Have a fantabulous day...

Jerilynne Knight
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On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:46 PM Peter Gold 
wrote:

> If your UI is too small, maybe you need a bigger boat, like in "Jaws"? ;)
>
> Seriously, if fiddling with screen resolution doesn't fix the problem,
> consider posting your screenshot to a location like Dropbox, and post the
> link here.
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Jerilynne Knight]

Hi Peter...thanks bunches for the idea (I'll check the resolution, I have 2
new 27" monitors and am still fiddling to make everything work to my
liking). If putzing with the resolution doesn't help, I'll upload the
screenshot where it can be accessed via a link.

Have a fantabulous day...

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On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:46 PM Peter Gold 
wrote:

> If your UI is too small, maybe you need a bigger boat, like in "Jaws"? ;)
>
> Seriously, if fiddling with screen resolution doesn't fix the problem,
> consider posting your screenshot to a location like Dropbox, and post the
> link here.
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Peter Gold]

If your UI is too small, maybe you need a bigger boat, like in "Jaws"? ;)

Seriously, if fiddling with screen resolution doesn't fix the problem,
consider posting your screenshot to a location like Dropbox, and post the
link here.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2020, 12:05 PM Jerilynne Knight 
wrote:

> Hi there...yup, I know a) it's been forever and b) I chose to purchase a
> not-so-new version since I don't need all the bells and whistles at the
> moment!
>
> I was still on 7.x  so getting used to this interface is my next challenge!
>
> That said, when I open a book file, I get a really funky-looking display
> where the individual files look all squished up (yup, that's a techie
> term!). I have a screen shot AND know we can't post images in the group.
>
> If you know how to fix this without the image, let me know. If you need an
> image to figure out what the heck I'm trying to describe, I'll upload my
> screenshot!
>
> Have a fantabulous day...
>
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[Framers] FrameMaker 2015

[Jerilynne Knight]

Hi there...yup, I know a) it's been forever and b) I chose to purchase a
not-so-new version since I don't need all the bells and whistles at the
moment!

I was still on 7.x  so getting used to this interface is my next challenge!

That said, when I open a book file, I get a really funky-looking display
where the individual files look all squished up (yup, that's a techie
term!). I have a screen shot AND know we can't post images in the group.

If you know how to fix this without the image, let me know. If you need an
image to figure out what the heck I'm trying to describe, I'll upload my
screenshot!

Have a fantabulous day...

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Re: [Framers] framemaker 2015 does not start

[Jeff Coatsworth]

There's a trick to renaming one of the folders to get it to launch properly - 
c:\users\user_name\AppData\LocalLow\Adobe\Linguistics ?



From: Framers 
 on behalf 
of Fred Wersan 
Sent: February 15, 2019 10:18 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] framemaker 2015 does not start

My colleague was using FrameMaker 2015  this morning. She shut it down.
Then she tried to start it. The splash screen flashes and then goes away
and Frame doesn't start.

Has anyone seen anything like this? Any ideas how to fix it?

Fred

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Re: [Framers] framemaker 2015 does not start

[john . x . posada]

Has she rebooted then tried again?

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Subject: [Framers] framemaker 2015 does not start

My colleague was using FrameMaker 2015  this morning. She shut it down. 
Then she tried to start it. The splash screen flashes and then goes away and 
Frame doesn't start.

Has anyone seen anything like this? Any ideas how to fix it?

Fred

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[Framers] framemaker 2015 does not start

[Fred Wersan]

My colleague was using FrameMaker 2015  this morning. She shut it down. 
Then she tried to start it. The splash screen flashes and then goes away 
and Frame doesn't start.


Has anyone seen anything like this? Any ideas how to fix it?

Fred

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[Caroline Tabach]

Thanks to all

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042


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From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:28 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary 
and filter from Output

Except she's running FM2015 ;>)
But it might give some clues about monkeying around under the hood...

From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf 
of Alexandra Duffy <adu...@vectorworks.net>
Sent: March-29-17 3:18 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary 
and filter from Output

Hi Caroline,
Check out this thread too: https://forums.adobe.com/message/9111525 . Be sure 
you have updated to the latest RoboHelp version, 12.0.4.460 Alexandra

> Hi,
> I use the above
> I am making Responsive HTML Help from Frame I do not have a glossary 
> or filter I would like to remove those icons which are not in use In 
> the Publish Pod,  I used Edit on the Settings File I clicked Manage 
> Layout Under Basic Settings, I set Show Glossary and Show Filter to 
> False
>
> But this does not work, the icons are still displayed in the Help file
>
> What should I be doing
> thanks
>
> Caroline Tabach
> Technical/Marcom Writer
> T. +972-77-7745-042
> [cid:image003.png@01D276F7.663CB560]<http://www.radcom.com/>
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Except she's running FM2015 ;>)
But it might give some clues about monkeying around under the hood...

From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf 
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Sent: March-29-17 3:18 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary 
and filter from Output

Hi Caroline,
Check out this thread too: https://forums.adobe.com/message/9111525 . Be sure 
you have updated to the latest RoboHelp version, 12.0.4.460
Alexandra

> Hi,
> I use the above
> I am making Responsive HTML Help from Frame I do not have a glossary or
> filter I would like to remove those icons which are not in use In the Publish
> Pod,  I used Edit on the Settings File I clicked Manage Layout Under Basic
> Settings, I set Show Glossary and Show Filter to False
>
> But this does not work, the icons are still displayed in the Help file
>
> What should I be doing
> thanks
>
> Caroline Tabach
> Technical/Marcom Writer
> T. +972-77-7745-042
> [cid:image003.png@01D276F7.663CB560]<http://www.radcom.com/>
>
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[techcommtools.com]

Hi Caroline, 

Try creating a new layout, and use one of the layouts that is new to Fm 2015. 
Prior layouts may not provide this functionality.

-Matt

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[Alexandra Duffy]

Hi Caroline,
Check out this thread too: https://forums.adobe.com/message/9111525 . Be sure 
you have updated to the latest RoboHelp version, 12.0.4.460
Alexandra

> Hi,
> I use the above
> I am making Responsive HTML Help from Frame I do not have a glossary or
> filter I would like to remove those icons which are not in use In the Publish
> Pod,  I used Edit on the Settings File I clicked Manage Layout Under Basic
> Settings, I set Show Glossary and Show Filter to False
> 
> But this does not work, the icons are still displayed in the Help file
> 
> What should I be doing
> thanks
> 
> Caroline Tabach
> Technical/Marcom Writer
> T. +972-77-7745-042
> [cid:image003.png@01D276F7.663CB560]
> 
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[Caroline Tabach]

Thanks

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042


-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+caroline=radcom@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 4:51 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary 
and filter from Output

You might want to check out this thread - 
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2111761

From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf 
of Caroline Tabach <carol...@radcom.com>
Sent: March-28-17 9:45 AM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and 
filter from Output

Hi,
I use the above
I am making Responsive HTML Help from Frame I do not have a glossary or filter 
I would like to remove those icons which are not in use In the Publish Pod,  I 
used Edit on the Settings File I clicked Manage Layout Under Basic Settings, I 
set Show Glossary and Show Filter to False

But this does not work, the icons are still displayed in the Help file

What should I be doing
thanks

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042
[cid:image003.png@01D276F7.663CB560]<http://www.radcom.com/>

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[Jeff Coatsworth]

You might want to check out this thread - 
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2111761 

From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf 
of Caroline Tabach <carol...@radcom.com>
Sent: March-28-17 9:45 AM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and 
filter from Output

Hi,
I use the above
I am making Responsive HTML Help from Frame
I do not have a glossary or filter
I would like to remove those icons which are not in use
In the Publish Pod,  I used Edit on the Settings File
I clicked Manage Layout
Under Basic Settings, I set Show Glossary and Show Filter to False

But this does not work, the icons are still displayed in the Help file

What should I be doing
thanks

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042
[cid:image003.png@01D276F7.663CB560]<http://www.radcom.com/>

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[Framers] FrameMaker 2015, Responsive HTML 5 Help- remove glossary and filter from Output

[Caroline Tabach]

Hi,
I use the above
I am making Responsive HTML Help from Frame
I do not have a glossary or filter
I would like to remove those icons which are not in use
In the Publish Pod,  I used Edit on the Settings File
I clicked Manage Layout
Under Basic Settings, I set Show Glossary and Show Filter to False

But this does not work, the icons are still displayed in the Help file

What should I be doing
thanks

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042
[cid:image003.png@01D276F7.663CB560]

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker (2015 release) Update 5 available now!

[Böðvar Björgvinsson]

Dear Jain Abhishek,

Thank you for these links. It woke me up! I hadn't made a single update.

Regards,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson.





On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Abhishek Jain  wrote:

> Hello Framers,
>
> I'm happy to announce the fifth update to FrameMaker (2015 release).
>
> For a complete overview of all of enhancements and issues fixed in
> FrameMaker (2015 release), Update 1, Update 2, Update 3, Update 4 and
> Update 5 please refer to the release notes framemaker/kb/resolved-issues-framemaker-2015.html>.
>
> The update is available through Adobe Update Manager (AUM): Please check
> for the updates in FrameMaker's menu > Help > Updates.
>
> It is also available for download from FrameMaker Support Center<
> http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?
> product=22=Windows>.
>
> A big thanks all of those who submitted feature enhancements and bug
> reports. It will be our endeavor to release these updates on a continuous
> basis to meet the needs of our customers. Please do keep your feedback
> coming.
>
> Regards,
> Abhishek Jain
>
> Product Manager
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[Framers] FrameMaker (2015 release) Update 5 available now!

[Abhishek Jain]

Hello Framers,

I'm happy to announce the fifth update to FrameMaker (2015 release).

For a complete overview of all of enhancements and issues fixed in FrameMaker 
(2015 release), Update 1, Update 2, Update 3, Update 4 and Update 5 please 
refer to the release 
notes.

The update is available through Adobe Update Manager (AUM): Please check for 
the updates in FrameMaker's menu > Help > Updates.

It is also available for download from FrameMaker Support 
Center.

A big thanks all of those who submitted feature enhancements and bug reports. 
It will be our endeavor to release these updates on a continuous basis to meet 
the needs of our customers. Please do keep your feedback coming.

Regards,
Abhishek Jain

Product Manager
Adobe Technical Communication Products
T +91-120 444 4711 EXT. 38929

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

[Jeff Coatsworth]

​Yes, it's safer to find a machine that doesn't have any FM loaded on it to 
play around with trials.


From: Ken Poshedly <poshe...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: September-07-16 9:49 AM
To: Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

Good idea, Jeff.

I do have FM 10 (not 11) installed on a laptop at home. But will installing 
cloud-based FM2015 "pollute" that and make my FM10 unusable afterwards?

I remember seeing previous posts over the years of others who did trial 
upgrades but then decided no-thanks, only to find their original versions 
unusable.

-- Ken


On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:39 AM, Jeff Coatsworth 
<jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com> wrote:


Ken - if you've got a spare machine at home (or kicking about the office), you 
could download the FM2015 trial & test for yourself ;>)

From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com>>
 on behalf of Ken Poshedly 
<poshe...@bellsouth.net<mailto:poshe...@bellsouth.net>>
Sent: September-07-16 9:35 AM
To: Rick Quatro; 'Framers List'
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

To all,
Could someone on this list who already uses FM2015 email me privately so we 
could set up a short test?
Thanks,
-- Ken in Atlanta


On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro 
<r...@rickquatro.com<mailto:r...@rickquatro.com>> wrote:


Ken,

Have them save the files in MIF and you will be able to open them with 11.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com<mailto:r...@frameexpert.com>




-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com>]
 On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Framers List
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

The translation department at my company's home office in China is considering 
to obtain FrameMaker 2015. That's the best wording I can use for this because 
I'm sure all of us are aware of the hacking in that country, so I can't speak 
for how they'll get the software. (My company is absolutely humongous in China 
with offices worldwide, but operates as if the staff consists of only four or 
five minimum-wage peons. Sort of how Scrooge treated Marley in The Christmas 
Carol.)

My office is in metro Atlanta and we use "FrameMaker Version 11.0," with really 
no problems — though I wish we didn't have to jump through hoops to archive 
[book-build] a finished manual. (Even then, those archives have their own 
problems with duplicates of some files in different folders.)

I already know that files created (or edited) in a newer version of Frame must 
be deliberately saved to a lower version so they can be accessed by those with 
the earlier Frame product.

Because of the multi-generational difference between FrameMaker 2015 and Frame 
11, I'm concerned that the newer product will not save files to the earlier 
level (FM11) that we here can use.

Are my concerns valid or is everything hunky-dory? And no, the Chinese 
management at my office will definitely NOT (i.e., no way, nada, hell-no!, 
etc.) upgrade my department of three American writers with the new product. The 
Chinese business model (or at least the one my company follows) is to cut costs 
but hope for increased sales. I'll be glad to discuss that issue off-list.

-- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Ken - if you've got a spare machine at home (or kicking about the office), you 
could download the FM2015 trial & test for yourself ;>)

From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf 
of Ken Poshedly <poshe...@bellsouth.net>
Sent: September-07-16 9:35 AM
To: Rick Quatro; 'Framers List'
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

To all,
Could someone on this list who already uses FM2015 email me privately so we 
could set up a short test?
Thanks,
-- Ken in Atlanta


On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> 
wrote:


 Ken,

Have them save the files in MIF and you will be able to open them with 11.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com




-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Framers List
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

The translation department at my company's home office in China is considering 
to obtain FrameMaker 2015. That's the best wording I can use for this because 
I'm sure all of us are aware of the hacking in that country, so I can't speak 
for how they'll get the software. (My company is absolutely humongous in China 
with offices worldwide, but operates as if the staff consists of only four or 
five minimum-wage peons. Sort of how Scrooge treated Marley in The Christmas 
Carol.)

My office is in metro Atlanta and we use "FrameMaker Version 11.0," with really 
no problems — though I wish we didn't have to jump through hoops to archive 
[book-build] a finished manual. (Even then, those archives have their own 
problems with duplicates of some files in different folders.)

I already know that files created (or edited) in a newer version of Frame must 
be deliberately saved to a lower version so they can be accessed by those with 
the earlier Frame product.

Because of the multi-generational difference between FrameMaker 2015 and Frame 
11, I'm concerned that the newer product will not save files to the earlier 
level (FM11) that we here can use.

Are my concerns valid or is everything hunky-dory? And no, the Chinese 
management at my office will definitely NOT (i.e., no way, nada, hell-no!, 
etc.) upgrade my department of three American writers with the new product. The 
Chinese business model (or at least the one my company follows) is to cut costs 
but hope for increased sales. I'll be glad to discuss that issue off-list.

-- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

[Ken Poshedly]

To all,
Could someone on this list who already uses FM2015 email me privately so we 
could set up a short test?
Thanks,
-- Ken in Atlanta
 

On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> 
wrote:
 

 Ken,

Have them save the files in MIF and you will be able to open them with 11.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com




-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Framers List
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

The translation department at my company's home office in China is considering 
to obtain FrameMaker 2015. That's the best wording I can use for this because 
I'm sure all of us are aware of the hacking in that country, so I can't speak 
for how they'll get the software. (My company is absolutely humongous in China 
with offices worldwide, but operates as if the staff consists of only four or 
five minimum-wage peons. Sort of how Scrooge treated Marley in The Christmas 
Carol.)

My office is in metro Atlanta and we use "FrameMaker Version 11.0," with really 
no problems — though I wish we didn't have to jump through hoops to archive 
[book-build] a finished manual. (Even then, those archives have their own 
problems with duplicates of some files in different folders.)

I already know that files created (or edited) in a newer version of Frame must 
be deliberately saved to a lower version so they can be accessed by those with 
the earlier Frame product.

Because of the multi-generational difference between FrameMaker 2015 and Frame 
11, I'm concerned that the newer product will not save files to the earlier 
level (FM11) that we here can use.

Are my concerns valid or is everything hunky-dory? And no, the Chinese 
management at my office will definitely NOT (i.e., no way, nada, hell-no!, 
etc.) upgrade my department of three American writers with the new product. The 
Chinese business model (or at least the one my company follows) is to cut costs 
but hope for increased sales. I'll be glad to discuss that issue off-list.

-- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

[Ken Poshedly]

Ah -- I hadn't thought of that! Great recommendation!
That's why YOU are da man!
-- Ken 

On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:42 AM, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> 
wrote:
 

 Ken,

Have them save the files in MIF and you will be able to open them with 11.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com




-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Framers List
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

The translation department at my company's home office in China is considering 
to obtain FrameMaker 2015. That's the best wording I can use for this because 
I'm sure all of us are aware of the hacking in that country, so I can't speak 
for how they'll get the software. (My company is absolutely humongous in China 
with offices worldwide, but operates as if the staff consists of only four or 
five minimum-wage peons. Sort of how Scrooge treated Marley in The Christmas 
Carol.)

My office is in metro Atlanta and we use "FrameMaker Version 11.0," with really 
no problems — though I wish we didn't have to jump through hoops to archive 
[book-build] a finished manual. (Even then, those archives have their own 
problems with duplicates of some files in different folders.)

I already know that files created (or edited) in a newer version of Frame must 
be deliberately saved to a lower version so they can be accessed by those with 
the earlier Frame product.

Because of the multi-generational difference between FrameMaker 2015 and Frame 
11, I'm concerned that the newer product will not save files to the earlier 
level (FM11) that we here can use.

Are my concerns valid or is everything hunky-dory? And no, the Chinese 
management at my office will definitely NOT (i.e., no way, nada, hell-no!, 
etc.) upgrade my department of three American writers with the new product. The 
Chinese business model (or at least the one my company follows) is to cut costs 
but hope for increased sales. I'll be glad to discuss that issue off-list.

-- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

[Rick Quatro]

Ken,

Have them save the files in MIF and you will be able to open them with 11.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com




-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Framers List
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

The translation department at my company's home office in China is considering 
to obtain FrameMaker 2015. That's the best wording I can use for this because 
I'm sure all of us are aware of the hacking in that country, so I can't speak 
for how they'll get the software. (My company is absolutely humongous in China 
with offices worldwide, but operates as if the staff consists of only four or 
five minimum-wage peons. Sort of how Scrooge treated Marley in The Christmas 
Carol.)

My office is in metro Atlanta and we use "FrameMaker Version 11.0," with really 
no problems — though I wish we didn't have to jump through hoops to archive 
[book-build] a finished manual. (Even then, those archives have their own 
problems with duplicates of some files in different folders.)

I already know that files created (or edited) in a newer version of Frame must 
be deliberately saved to a lower version so they can be accessed by those with 
the earlier Frame product.

Because of the multi-generational difference between FrameMaker 2015 and Frame 
11, I'm concerned that the newer product will not save files to the earlier 
level (FM11) that we here can use.

Are my concerns valid or is everything hunky-dory? And no, the Chinese 
management at my office will definitely NOT (i.e., no way, nada, hell-no!, 
etc.) upgrade my department of three American writers with the new product. The 
Chinese business model (or at least the one my company follows) is to cut costs 
but hope for increased sales. I'll be glad to discuss that issue off-list.

-- Ken in Atlanta
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[Framers] FrameMaker 2015 compatability with earlier versions

[Ken Poshedly]

The translation department at my company's home office in China is considering 
to obtain FrameMaker 2015. That's the best wording I can use for this because 
I'm sure all of us are aware of the hacking in that country, so I can't speak 
for how they'll get the software. (My company is absolutely humongous in China 
with offices worldwide, but operates as if the staff consists of only four or 
five minimum-wage peons. Sort of how Scrooge treated Marley in The Christmas 
Carol.)

My office is in metro Atlanta and we use "FrameMaker Version 11.0," with really 
no problems — though I wish we didn't have to jump through hoops to archive 
[book-build] a finished manual. (Even then, those archives have their own 
problems with duplicates of some files in different folders.)

I already know that files created (or edited) in a newer version of Frame must 
be deliberately saved to a lower version so they can be accessed by those with 
the earlier Frame product.

Because of the multi-generational difference between FrameMaker 2015 and Frame 
11, I'm concerned that the newer product will not save files to the earlier 
level (FM11) that we here can use.

Are my concerns valid or is everything hunky-dory? And no, the Chinese 
management at my office will definitely NOT (i.e., no way, nada, hell-no!, 
etc.) upgrade my department of three American writers with the new product. The 
Chinese business model (or at least the one my company follows) is to cut costs 
but hope for increased sales. I'll be glad to discuss that issue off-list.

-- Ken in Atlanta
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[Framers] FrameMaker 2015 Publish Expert

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

I have a client developing some manuals in FrameMaker 2015. They want to use
the Publish command to output responsive HTML 5. I have played with it a bit
and it looks like it is using inline styles. It looks like there is a way to
configure it to use classes with an external style sheet, but I haven't
explored too much. I am leaning towards finding someone that has experience
configuring the output so that it is as clean as possible. If you have
experience with FrameMaker's Publish command and are interested in a
project, please let me know. Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
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Re: [Framers] Framemaker 2015: text insets crashing constantly

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On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Austin Meredith  wrote:

>I am in the same situation and have not encountered this problem.
>-Austin
>
>> Hi Tom, We use large amounts of text insets. Our books are basically
>just
>
>> text insets and nothing else (we use them as a light-weight CMS), and
>we
>
>> have not experienced any problems under FrameMaker 2015.Best, Johan
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Re: [Framers] Framemaker 2015: text insets crashing constantly

[Austin Meredith]

   I am in the same situation and have not encountered this problem.
   -Austin

   > Hi Tom, We use large amounts of text insets. Our books are basically
   just

   > text insets and nothing else (we use them as a light-weight CMS), and
   we

   > have not experienced any problems under FrameMaker 2015.Best, Johan
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Re: [Framers] Framemaker 2015: text insets crashing constantly

[Johan Anglemark]

Hi Tom,

We use large amounts of text insets. Our books are basically just text 
insets and nothing else (we use them as a light-weight CMS), and we have 
not experienced any problems under FrameMaker 2015.


Best,

Johan

On 2016-04-12 14:42, de Rouck, Tom (Gent) wrote:

Hello everyone,

Using Framemaker 2015 (latest patch 2 installed) on Windows we experience 
constant crashes when importing text insets. The book and frame files are not 
legacy files, they were created in Framemaker 2015. Yes, our path is quite deep 
but when we copy the complete setup and test in Framemaker 8, everything is 
working fine, up till now, still testing actually. Does anyone else have the 
feeling the use of text insets is very unstable in the latest version?

Thanks in advance,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
Industrial
Junior Project Manager


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[Framers] Framemaker 2015: text insets crashing constantly

[de Rouck, Tom (Gent)]

Hello everyone,

Using Framemaker 2015 (latest patch 2 installed) on Windows we experience 
constant crashes when importing text insets. The book and frame files are not 
legacy files, they were created in Framemaker 2015. Yes, our path is quite deep 
but when we copy the complete setup and test in Framemaker 8, everything is 
working fine, up till now, still testing actually. Does anyone else have the 
feeling the use of text insets is very unstable in the latest version?

Thanks in advance,
Tom

Tom De Rouck
Industrial
Junior Project Manager

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