Re: Apache 2.0.52 help

2004-10-30 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 11:33:12PM -0600, Clay wrote:
   It is not a DSL Router/Modem, just a straight old school ADSL
 modem.  I have three static IP addresses. One is being used for the
 current web server, one is on the machine I am typing this on, and
 the third is being used for this server for testing.

You know, one thing that occurs to me is:  are you obtaining your IP
addresses from (your ISP's) DHCP server?  If not, are you sure you are
giving your new FreeBSD web server the right address?  If the address you
are using is incorrect, it's quite possible that the machine you are 
(successfully) pinging isn't the FreeBSD machine, just another unrelated
host that responds to ping, as most hosts do, but doesn't have a web
server running.  If your machines are connected to the ADSL modem via a
switch (which is how it sounds like you have things set up), the FreeBSD
web server would still see and respond to the traffic addressed to its
(incorrect) IP from your two other machines.

I can think of two ways to test this:  One, ping the host from the
external non-working machine and monitor the FreeBSD machine to see if
it is being pinged.  I'm sure there's a way to do that, I just don't
know what it is :)  The other is to temporarily switch IP addresses
with one of your other known working machines and see if you can access
the web server via that address.

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Re: 5.3-stable -- all CPU usage show 0%

2004-10-30 Thread Gareth Redman
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:06:09 +0530, Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:10:21 -0400, Chen Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am running 5.3-stable. since 5.3RC1, my CPU status from `top` show
  all zeros, like this. Can anyone tell me what is wrong?
 
 What makes you feel that something is wrong? If the processes are not
 using the processor I would be pretty hapy about it giggles. Getting
 back to the point, processes on *nix boxes do not consume processor
 like the Wind0ze family of OSses. SO its perfectly normal what u see.
 

I don't think it is normal, as even the idle state is at 0.00%.  I
would make sure that base is in sync with the kernel, as documented in
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html.

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cvsup....base and prefix???

2004-10-30 Thread Aaron P. Martinez
I have successfully used cvsup a few times now...and i am comfortable
with what the base and the prefix do.  

My question is why would someone put things in different locations than
for instance./usr for both base and/or prefix?  

I have seen a few different options used both in the cvs up faq on the
cvsup homepage, the handbook and also in the complete freebsd  they
all have different places listed..but not one single place is any
discussion about the theory or logic behind where it is placed.

This is really just a help me understand the philosophy question as it
seems that no matter where i place my 'base' and 'prefix' paths..the
cvsup will work...just trying to get a grasp on _why_ i would want it
one place more than another.

Thanks in advance,

Aaron

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Re: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors when used!!

2004-10-30 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 12:59:52PM -0700, Bill Schoolcraft wrote:
 At Fri, 29 Oct 2004 it looks like Volker Eckert composed:
 
  On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 05:57:59AM -0700, Bill Schoolcraft wrote:
   ...
   I have run 5.2.1 successfully on many machines and X is actually
   working fine except when I use Mozilla as installed from ports.
  
   The whole background turns into a negative and so does the Mozilla
   browser.  All returns to normal once I exit Mozilla.
   ...
 
  since nobody else replied... my 2 cents:
  maybe your X is running with too few colours? is it changing the
  colours when you change the focus?
 
 Thanks for your reply,
 
 What happens is all is fine with Opera, and Konqueror web
 browsers but once I start Mozilla, all hell breaks loose...
 
 It's like looking at a negative of a picture, whites turn black
 and the reversal of all colors, I can't describe to you the color
 changes for I was never aware of how much whole desktop can
 change.
 
 I mean EVERYTHING including the toolbars etc.
 
 I may go and install 4.10 and see what happens.  4.10 failed to
 install when the installation kernel hit the parallel port...
 Install/Kernel just wedged shut.

This sounds to me as if you're simply using a display which isn't
running at least 24bit colour depth.  All that's happening is that
Mozilla is installing its own colour map in the X server -- so when
you move your mouse pointer into or out of the Mozilla window, your
whole display switches from the default colour map to the Mozilla
colour map or back again.  ie.  it's not a bug.  It's a feature of
your graphics setup.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD?

2004-10-30 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Subhro --
 Buddy, software RAIDs had always been a pain in the neck. they simply
 are not worth it as the kernel is busy babysitting the RAID and other
 applications suffer. Also in case of software RAID failures, it is a
 nightmare.

I do not think so.

I never ever had any diffuiculties or hatches with software raids on Linux 
systems. I use them for several years in several machines now, w/o any 
errors. AND: it's damn easy on Linux to create the array, hotadd a new 
disk and so on...

greets, Matthias

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Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD?

2004-10-30 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Emanuel Strobl --
 Why not, but you also have gmirror and ataraid, the former only on 5.3.
 For ataraid you can use 'atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6' for example
 For gmirror you can use 'gmirror label -v -b split -s 2048 mrr ad4 ad6'
 And you mentioned vinum and ccd already.

why: because ccd seems not very good when it comes to replace a disk...
and ad ataraid and gmirror: where do I find docs about them on internet?

greets, Matthias

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Re: running php4 and php5

2004-10-30 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 11:11:56PM -0400, Steel City Phantom wrote:
 i need to configure both on my bsd machine.  i found a few pages on the 
 web that had some general instructions on how to do it, but i was hoping 
 someone here could tell me how to do it using the ports collection.
 http://wiki.coggeshall.org/37.html looked promising, but i wanted to see 
 what you guys thought first
 
 one requirement that i have is i need to run pretty much all the php 
 extentions for both of them.  so if i run php4-extensions and 
 php5-extension, what am i going to screw up?

Yes -- you won't be able to run both mod_php4 and mod_php5 in the same
instance of apache.  Also you'll have to fiddle around with $PREFIX in
order to get both sets of ports installed at the same time.

Probably your best bet is to set up a jail(8) to run one of the apache
instances in.  You can use mod_proxy to make the content of the second
server appear as part of the first one if you need to.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: make buildworld.........24 hours????

2004-10-30 Thread Brian Bobowski

   Kris Kennaway wrote:

 That's not unreasonable - the performance killer will be your lack
 of
memory, which means that you'll be swapping a lot while compiling.

Kris
  

   One thing I have to wonder - how compatible is 'make buildworld' with
   multiple build processes(e.g. 'make -j4 buildworld')? I know some
   makefiles don't get along well with the -j parameter, but if
   buildworld is okay with it, this may offer a way to keep the processor
   busy rather than waiting for disk access all the time, which could
   make things faster, especially on such low-memory machines.
   -BB
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Re: make buildworld.........24 hours????

2004-10-30 Thread Chuck Swiger
Brian Bobowski wrote:
[ ... ]
   One thing I have to wonder - how compatible is 'make buildworld' with
   multiple build processes(e.g. 'make -j4 buildworld')? I know some
   makefiles don't get along well with the -j parameter, but if
   buildworld is okay with it, this may offer a way to keep the processor
   busy rather than waiting for disk access all the time, which could
   make things faster, especially on such low-memory machines.
Using -j is recommended only when you have lots of memory and can keep all of 
the processes resident in memory.  Trying to run a parallel build on a 
low-memory machine is almost certainly going to be much slower, since you are 
going to swap more, not less.

Time it for yourself and see...
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Re: make buildworld.........24 hours????

2004-10-30 Thread Brian Bobowski
Chuck Swiger wrote:
Using -j is recommended only when you have lots of memory and can keep 
all of the processes resident in memory.  Trying to run a parallel 
build on a low-memory machine is almost certainly going to be much 
slower, since you are going to swap more, not less.

Time it for yourself and see...
Ah, thanks for the clarification. I'd seen it cited as a way to deal 
with the delay caused by file access, but I guess it does make sense 
that it would apply to the actual filesystem rather than swap.

-BB
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Re: make buildworld.........24 hours????

2004-10-30 Thread Chuck Swiger
Brian Bobowski wrote:
Chuck Swiger wrote:
Using -j is recommended only when you have lots of memory and can keep 
all of the processes resident in memory.  Trying to run a parallel 
build on a low-memory machine is almost certainly going to be much 
slower, since you are going to swap more, not less.
[ ... ]
Ah, thanks for the clarification. I'd seen it cited as a way to deal 
with the delay caused by file access, but I guess it does make sense 
that it would apply to the actual filesystem rather than swap.
There's that point, too.  FreeBSD will happily cache all of the header files 
and such in memory if it can, rather than re-reading them from disk all of the 
time.  Adding more memory to this machine will do more for your dollar to 
improve the performance of the system, then anything else you can do.

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throttling cpu speed to run cooler

2004-10-30 Thread Robert Storey
Dear All,

I've been looking for a utility to reduce cpu speed to make my laptop
run cooler. Ideally, it should reduce cpu speed to about 20% when speed
is not needed, and restore speed to 100% when the load requires it.

There is such a utility for Linux, called powernowd:

http://www.deater.net/john/powernowd.html

Using this with Debian, my cpu temperature drops by about 15 degrees
Celsius!

I'm just wondering if a utility similar to powernowd already exists for
FreeBSD? I did search the mailing list archives and found some talk
about developing just such a program, but never found out if it was
finally done, and what the said package might be called.

regards,
Robert
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swap partition encryption

2004-10-30 Thread Robert Storey
Dear All,

I've succeeded in creating an encrypted partition using gbde. I followed
the directions in the FBSD Handbook which, among other things, states:

   Unlike cumbersome encryption methods that encrypt only
   individual files, gbde transparently encrypts entire file systems.
   No cleartext ever touches the hard drive's platter.

But I wonder if that last sentence is true. What about the swap
partition? Is it simply bypassed, or does one need to do something to
create an encrypted swap partition?

regards,
Robert
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Re: Building part of world

2004-10-30 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-10-29 23:30, Brad Waite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Brave people might even get away by building the sk module only, by
  emulating the specific part of the kernel build:
 
  # cd /usr/src/sys/modules/sk
  # env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/tmp/sk \
KMODDIR=/boot/kernel DEBUG_FLAGS=-g MACHINE=i386 \
KERNBUILDDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL make obj
  # env MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/tmp/sk \
KMODDIR=/boot/kernel DEBUG_FLAGS=-g MACHINE=i386 \
KERNBUILDDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL make all
 
  If all this works, you can just kldload the new if_sk.ko from
  `/tmp/sk/usr/src/sys/modules/sk' to test your changes.

 Wow, Giorgos, this really *does* help.  It never dawned on me that FBSD
 even supported loadable kernel modules.  Feel kinda sheepish now, but hey,
 I guess you learn something new every day.

 In my stumbling around since you've enlightened me, I noticed a sk/ dir in
 /usr/src/sys/modules, and in there a Makefile.  'make install' apparently
 builds the .ko and installs it into /modules.

 Am I missing something here, or is this the way to go?

No, you're not missing anything.  I used the environment variables to keep the
/usr/src tree as clean as possible, but what you describe works too :-)

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Re: Accessing partitions using FIXIT/Live-System-CDROM?

2004-10-30 Thread Ewald Jenisch

On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 06:34:59PM -0400, jason wrote:
 
 Search the current archives for a new feature with atacontrol, I think 
 its in this program.  It will scan a disk and recover any data it can.  
 Sounds like what you need.

Hi Jason,

Thanks much for the hint! Unfortunately my data is on a SCSI
disk. Nevertheless I found the solution myself in the meantime:

The reason I couldn't mount the partitions, even after generating
device nodes for them (like ad0s1e,...) was that I didn't do a fsck
first. The solution came to me after I discovered that I could mount
the partitions readonly, but not r/w. So I fsck-ed them, with fsck
fixing some things then I could mount the partitions.

Thanks neverthelss for the hint with atacontrol - I'll keep in in my
records since you never know when disaster strikes again...

Cheers,
-ewald


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Re: throttling cpu speed to run cooler

2004-10-30 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 09:06:31PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote:

 I've been looking for a utility to reduce cpu speed to make my laptop
 run cooler. Ideally, it should reduce cpu speed to about 20% when speed
 is not needed, and restore speed to 100% when the load requires it.

http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-est/

Cheers,

Matthew

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SMP with hyperthreading CPU (5.3)?

2004-10-30 Thread Ewald Jenisch
Hi,

I've got a 3GHz P4 system with hyperthreading enabled in the BIOS. For
this system I've built a SMP-kernel (kernel config-file SMP that
comes with 5.3).

However SMP doesn't seem to be enabled - at least I don't seen the
usual messages like CPU ... launched that's common with SMP
configurations.

The only thing I'm seeing are the following entries during boot:

CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2992.71-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf34  Stepping = 4
  Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,C
MOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs


Neither does top show anything about a second (logical) cpu being
active, nor does ps.

So do I have two logical CPUs active on this system?

If not - what should I do besides enabling SMP in the kernel config
file (sure enough cpu I386_CPU which effectively disables SMP is
commented out)

Thanks much in advance for any hints,
-ewald


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Oracle 8i on FreeBSD 5.1

2004-10-30 Thread Jon Adams
I am installing Oracle 8i (8.1.7) on FreeBSD 5.1
I am following this doc: http://iamphet.nm.ru/misc/linuxemu-oracle8i.html
I get as far as the linking of Oracle 8i, when I am prompted with errors 
in linking  $ORACLE_HOME/precomp/lib/ins_precomp.mk

I know that this means I need the Glibc 2.1.3 stubs patch from Oracle 
(seen before on Linux)

when I try to run the setup_stubs.sh script, I get the following
bash-2.04$ ./setup_stubs.sh
Setting up patch files...done.
Patching makefiles as necessary:
 checking file '/ora/app/rdbms/demo/demo_rdbms.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/rdbms/demo/ociucb.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/rdbms/lib/ins_rdbms.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/rdbms/lib/env_rdbms.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/ins_net_client.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/env_network.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/ins_cman.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/ins_names.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/ins_oemagent.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/env_oemagent.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/ins_net_server.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/network/lib/ins_nau.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/plsql/lib/env_plsql.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/plsql/lib/ins_plsql.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/plsql/demo/demo_plsql.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/precomp/lib/ins_precomp.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/precomp/lib/env_precomp.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/ldap/lib/env_ldap.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/ldap/lib/ins_ldap.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/ldap/demo/demo_ldap.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/sqlplus/lib/env_sqlplus.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/sqlplus/lib/ins_sqlplus.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/ord/im/lib/env_ordim.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/ord/img/demo/demo_ordimg.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/otrace/demo/atmoci.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/otrace/lib/env_otrace.mk'...OK.
 checking file '/ora/app/otrace/lib/ins_otrace.mk'...OK.
Rebuilding client shared library...ld: cannot find -ldl
Now I know -ldl is for the dlopen function in Linux, which are in a 
different place than in FreeBSD,

my question to you all is, how do I patch these scripts to get around this.
I took out the -ldl in the lib/sysliblist file,
but then I get a similar error about -lpthread
Rebuilding client shared library...ld: cannot find -lpthread
I replaced -lpthread with -lc_r
then the -ldl error came back,
then I retried the gui building ins_precomp.mk, stil doesnt work,
I know that I probably need to get rid of all -ldl references, but when 
I tried that,
I got alot of  undefined references, so should I replace them with 
something?

Is there a way I can install ldl under freebsd to fool it into working?
HELP!!!
Thanks in advance...
BTW: please do not tell me to try Oracle 9i, or that I should use 
another version of FreeBSD, or something like that, I am locked in this 
hardware and OS, so I need to get it to work with the current setup as 
much as possible.


--J

after some reading, I replaced it with -lc_r but then I get undefined 
references to __bzero... and dozens of other calls

I am g
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oops... sysinstall from X

2004-10-30 Thread Gary Aitken
I made the mistake of trying to build and install the gimp port from an
xterm.  When I came back to it, it had started sysinstall to configure
the ghostscript driver.  Sysinstall looks great in an xterm, but
unfortunately keystrokes aren't mapped in a manner which works.  e.g.
The down arrow is echoed as ^[0B, and while normal characters such as
'x' and space are echoed properly, the sysinstall program apparently
isn't seeing them -- the characters are simply echoed over (replacing)
the text sysinstall has painted on the display, instead of doing the
right thing such as selecting / deselecting the current item.
Is there some simple way out of this?
I've still got the xterm up and would like to finish this install.
Or should I just kill it, exit X, and try make from a normal vty?
Thanks for any insights,
Gary
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Re: GPL vs BSD Licence

2004-10-30 Thread TM4525
 Again, the reality is that none of this (the existence of some
 products that
 exist as binary modules) harm the community. They offer choices for users,
 and the more choices the better. What a horrible place the world would be
 without TiVo (who never would have done the work if they couldn't
 protect it)


Yah, people might actually have to READ a book instead of watching the
TV.  What horrors!!

Ted


Or watch Meet the Press, and actually HEAR what your leaders say with context,
instead of relying on whatever the media wants you to hear, or what fits an
author's private agenda.
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Re: TFTPD timeout

2004-10-30 Thread BSDjunkie

--- Maxim V Tretjyakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello freebsd-stable,
 
 I've got a problem with tftpd - when somebody wants
 to get file this
 fails with timeout messages.
 load# tftp localhost
 tftp get pxeboot 
 Transfer timed out. 

If you are using a xdsl connection, or if you are
behind a firewall then you need to use passive ftp.

man .netrc

See if this helps...

Mark
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Re: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors when used!!

2004-10-30 Thread Bill Schoolcraft
At Sat, 30 Oct 2004 it looks like Matthew Seaman composed:

 This sounds to me as if you're simply using a display which isn't
 running at least 24bit colour depth.  All that's happening is that
 Mozilla is installing its own colour map in the X server -- so when
 you move your mouse pointer into or out of the Mozilla window, your
 whole display switches from the default colour map to the Mozilla
 colour map or back again.  ie.  it's not a bug.  It's a feature of
 your graphics setup.

   Cheers,

   Matthew

Thanks Matthew,

I will go in and do some edits to my XF86Config file after backing
it up.


(question)

It's an integrated SiS, 32mb video chipset and I was also
wondering the command that best works like lspci -v on other Unix
variants.  I wanted to get a more accurate output if the video
cards attributes as the FreeBSD operating sees it.


I did also try Netscape7 and it did the same thing.  Only two
current browser perform normally without any changes and those
are:  Opera and Konqueror

Thanks.

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Re: oops... sysinstall from X

2004-10-30 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 09:25:49AM -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 I made the mistake of trying to build and install the gimp port from an
 xterm.  When I came back to it, it had started sysinstall to configure
 the ghostscript driver.  Sysinstall looks great in an xterm, but
 unfortunately keystrokes aren't mapped in a manner which works.  e.g.
 The down arrow is echoed as ^[0B, and while normal characters such as
 'x' and space are echoed properly, the sysinstall program apparently
 isn't seeing them -- the characters are simply echoed over (replacing)
 the text sysinstall has painted on the display, instead of doing the
 right thing such as selecting / deselecting the current item.
 
 Is there some simple way out of this?
 I've still got the xterm up and would like to finish this install.
 Or should I just kill it, exit X, and try make from a normal vty?

That's not sysinstall -- it just uses the same SLANG libraries as
sysinstall does.  Even in an X-term, the navigation should work with
the arrow keys, but failing that, hitting tab should let you cycle
through all of the options.

Cheers,

Matthew

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xhost problem

2004-10-30 Thread Gary Aitken
I can't get an xterm from another machine to display on my 5.3 system.
I've tried xhost with the ip of the machine I want to allow in,
and finally tried xhost + to allow any machine in,
but attempts to display still fail with Can't open display w.x.y.z:0.0
firewall_enable and ipfilter_enable are NO at the moment,
and the source (xterm) system is open on the internal network.
What am I missing?
Thanks,
Gary
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Re: 5.3-stable -- all CPU usage show 0%

2004-10-30 Thread Chen Xu
I played with disable the acpi. And only  after I deinstall the
apache2, my top shows normal output.  I don't have a clue why.

Regards,
Chen


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 I don't think it is normal, as even the idle state is at 0.00%.  I
 would make sure that base is in sync with the kernel, as documented in
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html.
 
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Re: oops... sysinstall from X

2004-10-30 Thread Gary Aitken
Already tried tabbing, but it doesn't work; it just tabs off the end of
the line.  Out past the confines of the config painted window, to the
edge of the xterm window.  Any other ideas?
Thanks,
Gary
Matthew Seaman wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 09:25:49AM -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
I made the mistake of trying to build and install the gimp port from an
xterm.  When I came back to it, it had started sysinstall to configure
the ghostscript driver.  Sysinstall looks great in an xterm, but
unfortunately keystrokes aren't mapped in a manner which works.  e.g.
The down arrow is echoed as ^[0B, and while normal characters such as
'x' and space are echoed properly, the sysinstall program apparently
isn't seeing them -- the characters are simply echoed over (replacing)
the text sysinstall has painted on the display, instead of doing the
right thing such as selecting / deselecting the current item.
Is there some simple way out of this?
I've still got the xterm up and would like to finish this install.
Or should I just kill it, exit X, and try make from a normal vty?

That's not sysinstall -- it just uses the same SLANG libraries as
sysinstall does.  Even in an X-term, the navigation should work with
the arrow keys, but failing that, hitting tab should let you cycle
through all of the options.
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Re: oops... sysinstall from X

2004-10-30 Thread Gary Aitken
Ahhh.  Figured out what it was.
I had run the make and piped it into tee to have a hard copy of the log.
Apparently something about the pipe screws up the input.
The log is full of vty escape sequences, obviously from the screen
painting.
Seems like this is a bug of sorts.
Not sure the screen painting should go to the log,
and the keyboard problem is obviously a problem.
Gary
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Re: 5.2.1, installed Mozilla -- X reverses background colors when used!!

2004-10-30 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 08:57:12AM -0700, Bill Schoolcraft wrote:
 
 It's an integrated SiS, 32mb video chipset and I was also
 wondering the command that best works like lspci -v on other Unix
 variants.  I wanted to get a more accurate output if the video
 cards attributes as the FreeBSD operating sees it.

xdpyinfo(1) will show you what settings your display is currently
using.  You can also divine that information, plus stuff like howmuch
video RAM the X server thinks you have from the log file --
/var/log/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/XFree86.0.log according to which X
implementation you're using.

pciconf(1) will tell you what hardware is plugged into your PCI busses
-- for best results, run that as:

# pciconf -v -l

Cheers,

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Re: xhost problem

2004-10-30 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 10:50:01AM -0600, Gary Aitken wrote:
 I can't get an xterm from another machine to display on my 5.3 system.
 I've tried xhost with the ip of the machine I want to allow in,
 and finally tried xhost + to allow any machine in,
 but attempts to display still fail with Can't open display w.x.y.z:0.0
 
 firewall_enable and ipfilter_enable are NO at the moment,
 and the source (xterm) system is open on the internal network.
 
 What am I missing?

Xservers don't listen on the network by default nowadays, because
running X across the network in plain is about as bad as using rsh(1),
or unencrypted telnet(1).  Ideally you should be tunnelling the X
session through ssh(1) -- look for the description of the '-X' and
'-Y' flags to ssh ('-Y' is only available with more recent versions of
ssh(1)), and the 'ForwardX11' command you can use in
/etc/ssh/ssh_config or ~/.ssh/config.

If you're tunnelling through ssh(1), everything should be setup
automatically for you: your $DISPLAY on the remote machine will look
like 'localhost:10.0' or 'remote.host.name:10.0' -- don't fiddle with
the $DISPLAY setting, or you'll never get the forwarding to work.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: throttling cpu speed to run cooler

2004-10-30 Thread jason
Robert Storey wrote:
Dear All,
I've been looking for a utility to reduce cpu speed to make my laptop
run cooler. Ideally, it should reduce cpu speed to about 20% when speed
is not needed, and restore speed to 100% when the load requires it.
There is such a utility for Linux, called powernowd:
http://www.deater.net/john/powernowd.html
Using this with Debian, my cpu temperature drops by about 15 degrees
Celsius!
I'm just wondering if a utility similar to powernowd already exists for
FreeBSD? I did search the mailing list archives and found some talk
about developing just such a program, but never found out if it was
finally done, and what the said package might be called.
regards,
Robert
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man acpi_thermal and man acpi.  There are sysctl knobs to throttle your cpu.
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Buildworld Error, 5.3-RC1

2004-10-30 Thread Bill Blum
Hi there, ran into the following problem after typing 'make buildworld' 
on a freshly installed, freshly cvsup'ed system.

No changes were made to the default installation--  code was cvsup'ed to 
RELENG_5_3 before the buildworld.

Hardware:  Gigabyte GA7N400 Pro2, Athlon XP2800+, 2 Gig Memory.
(dmesg upon request)
End of error output appears below:
---
ic/../../contrib/file -o mkmagic 
/usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/apprentice.c 
/usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/funcs.c 
/usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/magic.c 
/usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/print.c
/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/lib/libmagic.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src/lib.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/src.
minerva# uname -a
FreeBSD minerva.basement.home 5.3-RC1 FreeBSD 5.3-RC1 #0: Sun Oct 17 
01:25:37 UTC 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC 
 i386

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sysctl.conf values reseting

2004-10-30 Thread nocturnal
Hi

While i had one value(kern.ps_showallprocs) in sysctl.conf all was fine
but then i added a few extra values and now each time i boot i see the
sysctl values in sysctl.conf being reset to their defaults.

This is my sysctl.conf:

kern.ps_showallprocs = 0
kern.ipc.shmmax = 67108864
kern.ipc.shmall = 32768
hw.snd.pcm0.vchans = 4
hw.snd.maxautovchans = 4


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gvinum raid5 newfs problem

2004-10-30 Thread Steffen Hetzel
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Hi,

i'd like to set up a FreeBSD Server (for 3 Clients). I'll use vinun for
/tmp/usr/var /home and /trash - partition. (/trash is for old stuff)

I use gvinum Raid0 for /tmp ; Raid1 for /usr, /var  /home without any
problems.

My /trash - Partition is a Raid5 Array with 4x80GB IDE Discs attached
on a Promise Ultra100TX2 Controller. It's no problem to set up the array
and init it. But when i try to make newfs-U /dev/gvinum/trash the
system stop ...

feuer# newfs -U /dev/gvinum/trash
/dev/gvinum/trash: 235585.1MB (482478336 sectors) block size 16384,
fragment size 2048using 1282 cylinder groups of 183.77MB, 11761
blks, 23552 inodes.with soft updates
super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at:
 160, 376512, 752864, 1129216, 1505568, 1881920, 2258272, 2634624,
3010976, 3387328, 3763680, 4140032, 4516384, 4892736, 5269088, 5645440,
6021792,

and gives the following error message:

feuer kernel: stray irq7

and furher it crashed, so that i can't log in or something else. I have
tryed it with my own Kernel

feuer# uname -a
FreeBSD feuer.***.** 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct
26 19:03:09 UTC 2004
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SERVER  i386 

and with the 5.3beta6 GENERIC Kernel. No difference. 

I get the same error-message when i try to newfs using vinum, but the
system don't crash.

Furthermore i can't find any device on irq7. So i'm helpless and fear,
that there is a hardware problem. I've posted the problem to the german
mailing list, and found someone (michael) with the same problem - but no
one who can help.

I attach my dmesg  my vinum.conf - maybe it helps you.

Thanks in advance

Steffen



vinum.conf:


drive raid11 device /dev/ad0s1d
drive raid12 device /dev/ad2s1d
drive raid51 device /dev/ad4s1d
drive raid52 device /dev/ad5s1d
drive raid53 device /dev/ad6s1d
drive raid54 device /dev/ad7s1d
## Raid 0
volume tmp
 plex org striped 384k
  sd length 75m drive raid11
  sd length 75m drive raid12
## Raid 1
volume usr setupstate
 plex org concat
  sd length 4000m drive raid11
 plex org concat
  sd length 4000m drive raid12
volume var setupstate
 plex org concat
  sd length 200m drive raid11
 plex org concat
  sd length 200m drive raid12
volume home setupstate
 plex org concat
  sd length 0 drive raid11
 plex org concat
  sd length 0 drive raid12
## Raid 5
volume trash
 plex org raid5 384k
  sd length 0 drive raid51
  sd length 0 drive raid52
  sd length 0 drive raid53
  sd length 0 drive raid54



dmesg (after such a crash)

feuer# dmesg
Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights
reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 26 19:03:09 UTC 2004
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Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (374.88-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x652  Stepping = 2
 
Features=0x183f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,
CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR real memory  = 402640896 (383 MB)
avail memory = 388493312 (370 MB)
npx0: [FAST]
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0: ASUS P2L97 on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0xe408-0xe40b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU (3 Cx states) on acpi0
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Intel 82443LX (440 LX) host to PCI bridge mem
0xe400-0xe7ff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge at
device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 4.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: Intel PIIX4 UDMA33 controller port
0xd800-0xd80f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 4.1 on pci0
ata0: channel #0 on atapci0 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0
uhci0: Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller port 0xd400-0xd41f irq
10 at device 4.2 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: bridge, PCI-unknown at device 4.3 (no driver attached)
fxp0: Intel 82559 Pro/100 Ethernet port 0xd000-0xd03f mem
0xe080-0xe08f,0xe100-0xe1000fff irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0
miibus0: MII bus on fxp0 inphy0: i82555 10/100 media interface on
miibus0 inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:d0:b7:de:1e:89
atapci1: Promise PDC20268 UDMA100 controller port
0xa400-0xa40f,0xa800-0xa803,0xb000-0xb007,0xb400-0xb403,0xb800-0xb807
mem 0xe000-0xe0003fff irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci0 ata2: channel #0
on atapci1 ata3: channel #1 on atapci1
pci0: display, VGA at device 12.0 (no driver attached)
sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 

Re: 7520 Chipset support in 4.x

2004-10-30 Thread TM4525
  Many of the new MBs from such tiny vendors as Dell and Supermicro
  are based on the 7520, and word is that FreeBSD 4.x doesn't support
  it. Is support forthcoming?
 
 We have 2 Dell PowerEdge 1850 servers which have the e7520 chipset. They
 hang consistently in 4.10-RELEASE and below whenever there is high network
 or disk utilization. We have not been able to get any debugging info.
 After upgrading to 4.10-STABLE a couple of weeks ago, they no longer hang,
 but they are _really_ slow to perform network and disk operations.
 
 They work fine in FreeBSD 5.3, but unfortunately our applications do not
 run without recompiling. We do not want to change our environment to
 support different binaries for different machines, and we don't want to
 use 5.X in production until it is STABLE.
 
 I want to echo the above question. Are there patches available or
 forthcoming to fix the problems with the e7520?
 
 Thanks,
 
 -
 Rob Watt

I think that we can imply from the lack of response on this subject that 4.x
is not really still supported, since just about all of the new motherboards
for Intel processors from leaders Dell and Supermicro are based on the 
7520. So, ironically, in order to use the newer, faster processors with 
FreeBSD, you have to use the newer, slower version of the O/S. Yikes!
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RE: 7520 Chipset support in 4.x

2004-10-30 Thread JohnsoBS
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 9:13 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 7520 Chipset support in 4.x
 
 
   Many of the new MBs from such tiny vendors as Dell and Supermicro
   are based on the 7520, and word is that FreeBSD 4.x 
 doesn't support
   it. Is support forthcoming?
  
  We have 2 Dell PowerEdge 1850 servers which have the e7520 
 chipset. They
  hang consistently in 4.10-RELEASE and below whenever there 
 is high network
  or disk utilization. We have not been able to get any 
 debugging info.
  After upgrading to 4.10-STABLE a couple of weeks ago, they 
 no longer hang,
  but they are _really_ slow to perform network and disk operations.
  
  They work fine in FreeBSD 5.3, but unfortunately our 
 applications do not
  run without recompiling. We do not want to change our environment to
  support different binaries for different machines, and we 
 don't want to
  use 5.X in production until it is STABLE.
  
  I want to echo the above question. Are there patches available or
  forthcoming to fix the problems with the e7520?
  
  Thanks,
  
  -
  Rob Watt
 
 I think that we can imply from the lack of response on this 
 subject that 4.x
 is not really still supported, since just about all of the 
 new motherboards
 for Intel processors from leaders Dell and Supermicro are 
 based on the 
 7520. So, ironically, in order to use the newer, faster 
 processors with 
 FreeBSD, you have to use the newer, slower version of the O/S. Yikes!

Considering 4.x kept getting tweaked all the way to 4.10 where 4.10 is
benched even faster than 4.9 in my experiences with the OS, I find it
reasonable to assume that new code that hasn't fully matured and been fully
adopted by mass may be slower. As in your previous post on the subject, I
find it no where near as slow as you have stated. For one who couldn't
figure out how to compile without the witness options and various other
debug stuff into the kernel and base system, it prolly would be slower.
After I took this stuff out of the build my benches were greatly improved,
but alas, not to 4.10 speeds. Given time and mass acceptance of the OS which
will adopt more coders and patches from people not yet using the OS I would
expect it to speed up even more. When you do such a radical swing in
codebases and haven't fully tested them, you should expect it.
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How to print to hp JetDirect/LaserJet 1300 Network printer?

2004-10-30 Thread Jay O'Brien
I'm confused, as there seem to be many conflicting directions 
out there. http://Linuxprinting.org is overwhelming.

I'm a new user of 4.10. I want to print to my hp 1300 LaserJet, 
which has a JetDirect network server and is connected to my LAN. 
The Win machines on the LAN print fine to the printer.

The printer is assigned the fixed IP 192.168.1.40. I can ping 
that address from my FreeBSD computer. 

Suggestions?

Jay O'Brien
Rio Linda, CA USA

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Re: How to print to hp JetDirect/LaserJet 1300 Network printer?

2004-10-30 Thread Kent Stewart
On Saturday 30 October 2004 12:56 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
 I'm confused, as there seem to be many conflicting directions
 out there. http://Linuxprinting.org is overwhelming.

 I'm a new user of 4.10. I want to print to my hp 1300 LaserJet,
 which has a JetDirect network server and is connected to my LAN.
 The Win machines on the LAN print fine to the printer.

 The printer is assigned the fixed IP 192.168.1.40. I can ping
 that address from my FreeBSD computer.

 Suggestions?

It is about as simple a printer to print to that you can get. On the other 
hand, you have problems configuring all possibilities. I use

lp|HPLJ2:\
:lp=:\
:rm=psrvr:\
:rp=L1:\
:if=/var/spool/lpd/lj.sh:\
:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd:\
:mx#0
for my printcap entries. I have a netgear printsever and it is l1 on the 
server. I can't lp a file because it stairsteps but I want to print from 
kword and don't have any problem.

Kent


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 Rio Linda, CA USA

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Pthreads Bug Bacula

2004-10-30 Thread Drew Tomlinson
Can anyone tell me if or when the pthreads bug was fixed in version 4?  
Google searches show some indication it was fixed in 4.9 and other 
information that it was fixed in 4.10.  I'm running 4.9-RELEASE-p4.

Currently I'm following the instructions in pthreads-fix.txt but with my 
DLT30 drive, I can see this will take many hours.  I would really 
appreciate it if someone can save me the time.  :)  I will upgrade to 
4.10 if I need to but would rather not if I don't have to.  I don't want 
to fix what isn't broken!  :)

Thanks,
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Re: sysctl.conf values reseting

2004-10-30 Thread Christian Hiris
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On Saturday 30 October 2004 19:51, nocturnal wrote:
 Hi

 While i had one value(kern.ps_showallprocs) in sysctl.conf all was fine
 but then i added a few extra values and now each time i boot i see the
 sysctl values in sysctl.conf being reset to their defaults.

 This is my sysctl.conf:
 
 kern.ps_showallprocs = 0
 kern.ipc.shmmax = 67108864
 kern.ipc.shmall = 32768
 hw.snd.pcm0.vchans = 4
 hw.snd.maxautovchans = 4
 

kern.ps_showallprocs=0
kern.ipc.shmmax=67108864
kern.ipc.shmall=32768
hw.snd.pcm0.vchans=4
hw.snd.maxautovchans=4

Cheers,
ch

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Re: How to print to hp JetDirect/LaserJet 1300 Network printer?

2004-10-30 Thread Jay O'Brien
Kent Stewart wrote:

 On Saturday 30 October 2004 12:56 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
 
I'm confused, as there seem to be many conflicting directions
out there. http://Linuxprinting.org is overwhelming.

I'm a new user of 4.10. I want to print to my hp 1300 LaserJet,
which has a JetDirect network server and is connected to my LAN.
The Win machines on the LAN print fine to the printer.

The printer is assigned the fixed IP 192.168.1.40. I can ping
that address from my FreeBSD computer.

Suggestions?
 
 
 It is about as simple a printer to print to that you can get. On the other 
 hand, you have problems configuring all possibilities. I use
 
 lp|HPLJ2:\
 :lp=:\
 :rm=psrvr:\
 :rp=L1:\
 :if=/var/spool/lpd/lj.sh:\
 :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\
 :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\
 :mx#0
 for my printcap entries. I have a netgear printsever and it is l1 on the 
 server. I can't lp a file because it stairsteps but I want to print from 
 kword and don't have any problem.
 
 Kent
 
 
Jay O'Brien
Rio Linda, CA USA

Kent,

How does that send the files to be printed to 192.168.1.40? 

Stairsteps?

Jay



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Re: SMP with hyperthreading CPU (5.3)?

2004-10-30 Thread Luke

If not - what should I do besides enabling SMP in the kernel config
file (sure enough cpu I386_CPU which effectively disables SMP is
commented out)
I haven't updated my system since August, but back then the apic device 
was also required.  5.3 may be different.
This is the relevant section from my 5.2-CURRENT hyperthreading kernel 
from last August.

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
device  apic# I/O APIC
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Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD?

2004-10-30 Thread Subhro
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:17:05 +0200, Matthias F. Brandstetter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I never ever had any diffuiculties or hatches with software raids on Linux
 systems. 

You got me wrongly. The primary reason why I would make a RAID is
fault tolerance. In case of hardware RAIDs, rebuilding a sick RAID is
without any troubles. On the other hand for software RAIDs its quite a
trouble (atleast I am not confortablw with it, maybe I am biased
towards hardware). Also I guess you didn't notice that I mentioned
about the performance issues too.

Regards
S.

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Re: How to print to hp JetDirect/LaserJet 1300 Network printer?

2004-10-30 Thread jason
Jay O'Brien wrote:
I'm confused, as there seem to be many conflicting directions 
out there. http://Linuxprinting.org is overwhelming.

I'm a new user of 4.10. I want to print to my hp 1300 LaserJet, 
which has a JetDirect network server and is connected to my LAN. 
The Win machines on the LAN print fine to the printer.

The printer is assigned the fixed IP 192.168.1.40. I can ping 
that address from my FreeBSD computer. 

Suggestions?
Jay O'Brien
Rio Linda, CA USA
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Try this link
file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/printing-advanced.html
go to section 9.4.3
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RE: Apache 2.0.52 help

2004-10-30 Thread Clay
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Danny MacMillan
 Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 12:49 AM
 To: Clay
 Cc: 'Aaron P. Martinez'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Apache 2.0.52 help
 
 On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 11:33:12PM -0600, Clay wrote:
  It is not a DSL Router/Modem, just a straight old school ADSL
  modem.  I have three static IP addresses. One is being used for the
  current web server, one is on the machine I am typing this on, and
  the third is being used for this server for testing.
 
 You know, one thing that occurs to me is:  are you obtaining your IP
 addresses from (your ISP's) DHCP server?  If not, are you sure you are
 giving your new FreeBSD web server the right address?  If the address you
 are using is incorrect, it's quite possible that the machine you are
 (successfully) pinging isn't the FreeBSD machine, just another unrelated
 host that responds to ping, as most hosts do, but doesn't have a web
 server running.  If your machines are connected to the ADSL modem via a
 switch (which is how it sounds like you have things set up), the FreeBSD
 web server would still see and respond to the traffic addressed to its
 (incorrect) IP from your two other machines.
 
 I can think of two ways to test this:  One, ping the host from the
 external non-working machine and monitor the FreeBSD machine to see if
 it is being pinged.  I'm sure there's a way to do that, I just don't
 know what it is :)  The other is to temporarily switch IP addresses
 with one of your other known working machines and see if you can access
 the web server via that address.
 
 --
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Well looks like playing the IP game got it fixed. Changed the IP's of this
machine and the FreeBSD machine around and rebooted the FreeBSD machine and
it works now. Not sure what was up oh well, glad it is working anyways.
Thanks for all the help everyone, a lot of insight for me on how FreeBSD
works.

Clay 


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Re: Pthreads Bug Bacula

2004-10-30 Thread jason
Drew Tomlinson wrote:
Can anyone tell me if or when the pthreads bug was fixed in version 
4?  Google searches show some indication it was fixed in 4.9 and other 
information that it was fixed in 4.10.  I'm running 4.9-RELEASE-p4.

Currently I'm following the instructions in pthreads-fix.txt but with 
my DLT30 drive, I can see this will take many hours.  I would really 
appreciate it if someone can save me the time.  :)  I will upgrade to 
4.10 if I need to but would rather not if I don't have to.  I don't 
want to fix what isn't broken!  :)

Thanks,
Drew
I was just updating my system yesterday and ran into the pthread bug.  I 
had updated libxml2 and it was compiled with pthreads.  To fix it I 
removed /var/db/ports/libxml2/options.  When I recompiled it asked for a 
config, and I told it no pthreads.  Now it works fine.  So to answer 
your question the bug was never fixed because it is a design 
implementation issue.  FreeBSD just exposes it right away instead of far 
off randomly in the future when you have long uptime(had to do with pids 
being recycled) so the general rule was disable them.

Hope this helps.
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Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD?

2004-10-30 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Samstag, 30. Oktober 2004 12:18 schrieb Matthias F. Brandstetter:
 -- quoting Emanuel Strobl --

  Why not, but you also have gmirror and ataraid, the former only on 5.3.
  For ataraid you can use 'atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6' for example
  For gmirror you can use 'gmirror label -v -b split -s 2048 mrr ad4 ad6'
  And you mentioned vinum and ccd already.

 why: because ccd seems not very good when it comes to replace a disk...
 and ad ataraid and gmirror: where do I find docs about them on internet?

Why going outside and searching the internet?
You have a complete operating system, and it's one of the best documented out 
there. Just 'man ata', 'man atacontrol' and 'man gmirror'. Remember that 
FreeBSD isn't just a hacked kernel with lots of stuff arround without any 
sense, it's standardized an documented! ;)

-Harry


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Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD?

2004-10-30 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Samstag, 30. Oktober 2004 23:52 schrieb Emanuel Strobl:
 Am Samstag, 30. Oktober 2004 12:18 schrieb Matthias F. Brandstetter:
  -- quoting Emanuel Strobl --
 
   Why not, but you also have gmirror and ataraid, the former only on 5.3.
   For ataraid you can use 'atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6' for example
   For gmirror you can use 'gmirror label -v -b split -s 2048 mrr ad4 ad6'
   And you mentioned vinum and ccd already.
 
  why: because ccd seems not very good when it comes to replace a disk...
  and ad ataraid and gmirror: where do I find docs about them on internet?

 Why going outside and searching the internet?
 You have a complete operating system, and it's one of the best documented
 out there. Just 'man ata', 'man atacontrol' and 'man gmirror'. Remember
 that FreeBSD isn't just a hacked kernel with lots of stuff arround without
 any sense, it's standardized an documented! ;)

And I forgot to emphasize that users have a wonderful hadbook at: 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
Also developer etc. have theri handbook at:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/
Just IBM writes handboocs which can compare ;)


 -Harry

  greets, Matthias


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Laptops as routers

2004-10-30 Thread Paul Hoffman
Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to 
be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle 
PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on 
the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, 
and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice.

Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid?
--Paul Hoffman
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Re: 7520 Chipset support in 4.x

2004-10-30 Thread TM4525
As in your previous post on the subject, I
find it no where near as slow as you have stated. For one who couldn't
figure out how to compile without the witness options and various other
debug stuff into the kernel and base system, it prolly would be slower.
After I took this stuff out of the build my benches were greatly improved,
but alas, not to 4.10 speeds.



The POINT is not how much slower 5.3 is than 4.10 is, its the fact
that a MAJOR chipset isnt well supported in what is SUPPOSED
to be the mainstream, stable release. I know its difficult for you
to stay on point, but at least try to get the point before ranting
about the subject. Since you just babble about your tests but
have never shown any results, no one really knows what your 
tests test, if anything. The only test anyone has posted was
completely bogus (some nonsense about firing packets through
a socket interface), so you just can't say my tests show
unless you clarify what you have done.

When 5.3 is released we can banter about benchmarks, as it seems
pointless to do it now since its not done. It may be pointless anyway,
since they've pretty much admitted that 5.3 isn't (yet) going to rival
the efficiency of 4.x. I can accept that, but if 5.x isnt ready, then
important chipsets should be supported in 4.x BEFORE they 
are supported in 5, not when someone gets around to backporting it.
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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-30 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 00:20 schrieb Paul Hoffman:
 Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to
 be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle
 PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on
 the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows,
 and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice.

 Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid?

Bad idea IMHO. I'd suggest having a look at http://www.soekris.com/ (net4501 
for easiest requirements, better 4801, all in one extendable box) or if you 
need just basic 586cpu-power without extendability and only (well designed) 
ethernet ports see: http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm
You can use any type of PC as terminal to operate these boxes vi the serial 
interface. Perhaps you already have any old vt100 terminal handy.

But I don''t have an answer to your original question, sorry. Although I'd 
like to mention that old laptops often can't handle modern PC-CARDSs 
(CARDBUS), PCMCIA was 5v and 16 bit wide, very slow and really not sutable 
for routing purposes!

-Harry


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Slow Startup

2004-10-30 Thread Clay
Hi,

 

Well after getting the last problem solved, I have noticed that
the FreeBSD machine starts up slowly. By this I mean, when it gets to
starting common daemons it just hangs for roughly half hour. It will not go
past this spot, and it just sits there, then after time I get the login
prompt to which I am able to login and then do things in the shell. 

 

I have noticed this a few other times when I was first
installing FreeBSD on the machine, and never thought much of it as I always
had other things to do. Now that I am able to devote time to getting the
server setup, I find it hard to get things done when rebooting then waiting
such a long time to log back in after a reboot.

 

Clay

 

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Re: Slow Startup

2004-10-30 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 01:14 schrieb Clay:
 Hi,



 Well after getting the last problem solved, I have noticed that
 the FreeBSD machine starts up slowly. By this I mean, when it gets to
 starting common daemons it just hangs for roughly half hour. It will not go
 past this spot, and it just sits there, then after time I get the login

Hardly imaginable, it seems you have a serios nameserver problem. Have you 
tried ctrl-c whil wou see the hang? It should skip the rc step. But 
please at least tell us what version you're using!

-Mano

 prompt to which I am able to login and then do things in the shell.



 I have noticed this a few other times when I was first
 installing FreeBSD on the machine, and never thought much of it as I always
 had other things to do. Now that I am able to devote time to getting the
 server setup, I find it hard to get things done when rebooting then waiting
 such a long time to log back in after a reboot.



 Clay



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Re: FireFox crash on Print

2004-10-30 Thread Jason Taylor
Dan Finn wrote:
[ root @ stewie : ~] : pkg_info |grep -i firefox
firefox-1.0.1.p_4   Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:31:52 -0500, Donald J. O'Neill
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On Thursday 21 October 2004 02:48 pm, Dan Finn wrote:
same here as well.
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aurvandil# pkg_info | grep -i firefox
firefox-1.0.1.p_4   Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla
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RE: Slow Startup

2004-10-30 Thread Clay

 -Original Message-
 From: Emanuel Strobl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 5:19 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Clay
 Subject: Re: Slow Startup
 
 Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 01:14 schrieb Clay:
  Hi,
 
 
 
  Well after getting the last problem solved, I have noticed
that
  the FreeBSD machine starts up slowly. By this I mean, when it gets to
  starting common daemons it just hangs for roughly half hour. It will not
go
  past this spot, and it just sits there, then after time I get the login
 
 Hardly imaginable, it seems you have a serios nameserver problem. Have you
 tried ctrl-c whil wou see the hang? It should skip the rc step. But
 please at least tell us what version you're using!
 
 -Mano
 
  prompt to which I am able to login and then do things in the shell.
 
 
 
  I have noticed this a few other times when I was first
  installing FreeBSD on the machine, and never thought much of it as I
always
  had other things to do. Now that I am able to devote time to getting the
  server setup, I find it hard to get things done when rebooting then
waiting
  such a long time to log back in after a reboot.
 
 
 
  Clay
 
 
 
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Woops 4.10 Release and yes CTRL-C doesn't skip past it. Name server issue
though I can check in to as there is more than one I can use.

Clay

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Re: How to print to hp JetDirect/LaserJet 1300 Network printer?

2004-10-30 Thread Kent Stewart
On Saturday 30 October 2004 01:34 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
 Kent Stewart wrote:
  On Saturday 30 October 2004 12:56 pm, Jay O'Brien wrote:
 I'm confused, as there seem to be many conflicting directions
 out there. http://Linuxprinting.org is overwhelming.
 
 I'm a new user of 4.10. I want to print to my hp 1300 LaserJet,
 which has a JetDirect network server and is connected to my LAN.
 The Win machines on the LAN print fine to the printer.
 
 The printer is assigned the fixed IP 192.168.1.40. I can ping
 that address from my FreeBSD computer.
 
 Suggestions?
 
  It is about as simple a printer to print to that you can get. On the
  other hand, you have problems configuring all possibilities. I use
 
  lp|HPLJ2:\
 
  :lp=:\
  :rm=psrvr:\
  :rp=L1:\
  :if=/var/spool/lpd/lj.sh:\
  :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\
  :sd=/var/spool/lpd:\
  :mx#0
 
  for my printcap entries. I have a netgear printsever and it is l1 on the
  server. I can't lp a file because it stairsteps but I want to print from
  kword and don't have any problem.
 
  Kent
 
 Jay O'Brien
 Rio Linda, CA USA

 Kent,

 How does that send the files to be printed to 192.168.1.40?

psrvr is in my hosts table.


 Stairsteps?

That is where you need a cr but only get a lf. With Unix only sending a 
linefeed, it walks across and down the page like stairs.

Kent


 Jay

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How to get out of GNOME?

2004-10-30 Thread Jay O'Brien
Running 4.10. 

I added the GNOME package, updated the files it said to edit 
when it was installing, and now I can't get out of GNOME, 
even with editing (via ftp) the files back as they were in 
the first place and rebooting. 

How can I get back to a command line terminal? 

Jay O'Brien

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Re: How to get out of GNOME?

2004-10-30 Thread pete wright
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:11:23 -0700, Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Running 4.10.
 
 I added the GNOME package, updated the files it said to edit
 when it was installing, and now I can't get out of GNOME,
 even with editing (via ftp) the files back as they were in
 the first place and rebooting.
 
 How can I get back to a command line terminal?

ctl+alt+F1 should bring you to a virtual terminal.  i bet gnome is
launching GDM or XDM on boot, if you take that out of your startup
scrips you should be all set.

-p

 
 Jay O'Brien
 
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Re: How to print to hp JetDirect/LaserJet

2004-10-30 Thread Mike Jeays
Add rm=192.168.1.40 to the /etc/printcap entry.

My example is (faraday is the name of the machine with the printer):

lp|hp710c:\
:lp=::rm=faraday:rp=lp:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:sd=/var/spool/lpd:mx#0:


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RE: Slow Startup

2004-10-30 Thread Clay
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
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 Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 5:57 PM
 To: 'Emanuel Strobl'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Slow Startup
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Emanuel Strobl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 5:19 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Clay
  Subject: Re: Slow Startup
 
  Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 01:14 schrieb Clay:
   Hi,
  
  
  
   Well after getting the last problem solved, I have noticed
 that
   the FreeBSD machine starts up slowly. By this I mean, when it gets to
   starting common daemons it just hangs for roughly half hour. It will
not
 go
   past this spot, and it just sits there, then after time I get the
login
 
  Hardly imaginable, it seems you have a serios nameserver problem. Have
you
  tried ctrl-c whil wou see the hang? It should skip the rc step. But
  please at least tell us what version you're using!
 
  -Mano
 
   prompt to which I am able to login and then do things in the shell.
  
  
  
   I have noticed this a few other times when I was first
   installing FreeBSD on the machine, and never thought much of it as I
 always
   had other things to do. Now that I am able to devote time to getting
the
   server setup, I find it hard to get things done when rebooting then
 waiting
   such a long time to log back in after a reboot.
  
  
  
   Clay
  
  
  
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 Woops 4.10 Release and yes CTRL-C doesn't skip past it. Name server issue
 though I can check in to as there is more than one I can use.
 
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Yes changing the DNS server did the trick thanks for the help.

Clay

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ipnat question:

2004-10-30 Thread Zhelyazko Georgiev
Hello,
I'm connected to internet trough LAN, I have router
running freeBSD 5.2. I have several windows boxes in
my ibternal network. I want to be able to access the
remote desktop from outside on one of the windows
boxes. For that reason I'm using IPfirewal and ipnat.
Attached are my rc.conf, ipf.rules and ipnat.rules. 
The router is working fine except I cannot get it to
forward ports, like I did on my linux box. The IPs of
my internal network are 192.168.1.0/24, the external
IP is 84.21.192.150.
Please tell me what I'm doing wrong.Thank you very
much in advance.

Zhelyazko.



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pass in quick on lo0
pass out quick on lo0
pass in quick on rl1 from 192.168.1.0/24 to any
pass out quick on rl1 from any to 192.168.1.0/24
pass out on rl0 proto tcp from any to any flags S keep state keep frags
pass out on rl0 proto udp from any to any keep state
pass out on rl0 proto icmp from any to any icmp-type 8 keep state
pass out on rl0 proto gre from any to any keep state
#
#Allow SSH access
pass in on rl0 proto tcp/udp from any to 84.21.192.150 port = 22 keep state
#
#Allow ping requests
pass in on rl0 proto icmp from any to 84.21.192.150 keep state
#
#Allow connection on port 3389 for internal Windows RTD
pass in on rl0 proto tcp/udp from any to 84.21.192.150 port = 3389 keep stateipnat.rules :

map rl0 192.168.1.0/24 - 0/32 portmap tcp/udp auto
map rl0 192.168.1.0/24 - 0/32
rdr rl0 0.0.0.0/32 port 3389 - 192.168.1.2 port 3389 tcp/udp
defaultrouter=84.21.192.1
gateway_enable=YES
hostname=ironhost.server.com
#ipsec_enable=YES
#enable_firewall=YES
#firewall_type=OPEN
#firewall_quiet=YES
ipfilter_enable=YES
ipfilter_rules=/etc/ipf.rules
ipnat_enable=YES
#natd_enable=YES
#natd_interface=rl0
#natd_flags=-f /etc/natd.rules
sendmail_enable=NONE
fsck_y_enable=YES
syslogd_enable=NO
#inetd_enable=YES
ifconfig_rl0=inet 84.21.192.150  netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig_rl1=inet 192.168.1.1  netmask 255.255.0.0
linux_enable=YES
moused_enable=YES
sshd_enable=YES
usbd_enable=NO
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
# Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.

# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# Created: Fri Feb  4 09:25:44 2000
# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Fri Feb  4 09:25:44 2000
ifconfig_rl0=inet 84.21.192.150  netmask 255.255.255.0
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Re: More Intel ICH5 SATA150 hangs

2004-10-30 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 10/29/04 08:48 PM, Mike Tancsa sat at the `puter and typed:
 On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:34:12 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions
 you wrote:
 
 The system is a fairly new (3 months old) Dell 8300; 3Ghz Pentium with
 HT enabled.  The disk controller is an Intel ICH5 SATA controller, as
 mentioned above.  The disk is a WDC WD1600JD-75HBB0 (Western Digital).
 
 Last time I asked about this, it was suggested that the drive might be
 bad.  The bios had a test that passed the drive.  It was then
 suggested that I use the WD test utility.  I wasn't able to do this at
 the time because I don't have a floppy on this system, and creating a
 bootable CD from the image didn't work (I think it had a: hardcoded
 in).  Well, I finally broke down and hijacked the floppy from another
 machine and ran the WD diags.  Passed with flying colors, both the
 quick test and the extended test.  The drive is fine.
 
 
 A useful program on RELENG_5 is 
 /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools/
 
 have a quick look to see if there are any bad sectors on the drive.
 Run the daemon, and do a snapshot (smartctl -a ad0) before and after
 the crash and see if there is anything new recorded on the drive.

Will do, but I'm pretty sure at least one of the three utilities I've
already run would have found a bad sector . . .

 So today I was building OpenOffice and everything came to a screeching
 halt again.  See the log entries above.
 Same result the other poor schmuck got when he tried it.  There was
 also a suggestion that HT be turned off.  Kinda defeats the whole
 
 HT works against you unless the scheduler is specifically aware of it,
 and right now the ULE scheduler is broken. For sure turn HT off in
 your BIOS and make sure you use SCHED_4BSD and NOT ULE

I am using SCHED_4BSD, not ULE.

 Anyone have any other suggestions, info, whatever?  I'll try turning
 
 What does  your kernel config look like ?  

Attached below . . .

Thanks for your response.

Lou




#
# KEYSLAPPER custom kernel config - Adapted from FreeBSD 5.2.1 GENERIC

machine i386
cpu I686_CPU
ident   GENERIC

options SCHED_4BSD  #4BSD scheduler
options INET#InterNETworking
options INET6   #IPv6 communications protocols
options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support
options UFS_ACL #Support for access control lists
options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories
options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device
options NFSCLIENT   #Network Filesystem Client
options NFSSERVER   #Network Filesystem Server
options NFS_ROOT#NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT
options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem
options CD9660  #ISO 9660 Filesystem
options PROCFS  #Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS)
options PSEUDOFS#Pseudo-filesystem framework
options COMPAT_43   #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 #Compatible with FreeBSD4
options SCSI_DELAY=15000#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options KTRACE  #ktrace(1) support
options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory
options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues
options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores
options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV# install a CDEV entry in /dev
options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT# Print register bitfields in debug
# output.  Adds ~128k to driver.
options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT# Print register bitfields in debug
# output.  Adds ~215k to driver.
options IPFIREWALL
options IPDIVERT
options PFIL_HOOKS  # pfil(9) framework
options VESA# VESA support

options INVARIANT_SUPPORT   #Extra sanity checks of internal structures, 
required by INVARIANTS

options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
device  apic# I/O APIC

device  isa
device  eisa
device  pci

# Floppy drives - None present
# devicefdc

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device  ata
device  atadisk # ATA disk drives
device  ataraid # ATA RAID drives
device  atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
device  atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
device  atapist # ATAPI tape drives
options ATA_STATIC_ID   #Static device numbering

# 

Re: More Intel ICH5 SATA150 hangs

2004-10-30 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 10/29/04 10:54 PM, David Kelly sat at the `puter and typed:
 
 On Oct 29, 2004, at 7:48 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote:
 
  Same result the other poor schmuck got when he tried it.  There was
  also a suggestion that HT be turned off.  Kinda defeats the whole
 
  HT works against you unless the scheduler is specifically aware of it,
  and right now the ULE scheduler is broken. For sure turn HT off in
  your BIOS and make sure you use SCHED_4BSD and NOT ULE
 
 I turned off HT on my Dell PE400SC (uses Intel ICH5 chipset) almost 
 instantly after installing FreeBSD. Partitioning and labeling my SATA 
 drives went just fine. System is on a PATA drive. Even striping the two 
 SATA drives with Vinum followed by newfs was fine. System locked hard 
 the instant I actually tried to use the SATA drives. Reformatted 
 without vinum and had similar lock/panic. This was possibly 5.2.1-p10. 
 Have darn near the latest 5.3 on it now and its running nicely w/o HT.
 
 Pretty sure ULE was the scheduler being used when I had problems as I 
 remember when SCHED_4BSD was the new default. IMO, when it worked, ULE 
 ran smoother. Now it seems that one process can hog the filesystem 
 resources and block out another doing the exact same thing but to 
 another file.
 
 That instance with HT was the first and only time FreeBSD messed up a 
 filesystem and I've had at least one FreeBSD machine running 24/7 since 
 2.0.0-RELEASE. As a result I'm not much in the mood to re-enable HT now 
 that I have real data on the drives.

This is a bit disconcerting.  That implies that 5.2 isn't SMP stable.

Lou
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Re: More Intel ICH5 SATA150 hangs

2004-10-30 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 10/30/04 12:39 AM, Jeff Doolittle sat at the `puter and typed:
 Louis LeBlanc wrote:
 
  SNIP
 I did a lot of googling to see if there was anything about the
 controller and the WRITE_DMA message out there - even associated with
 Linux or any other *nix.  Very little, but there were suggestions to
 change the CPU to compatible mode.  I tried this and it wouldn't boot.
   
 
 CPU to compatible mode?  What worked for my ASUS was to change the 
 Serial ATA from enhanced mode to compatible mode which results in the 
 loss of either your Primary or Secondary IDE channel.  I've been running 
 this way for months without a problem.  I use the onboard Promise 
 controller for my live data and do a weekly dump to the WDC drives on 
 the ICH5 compatible mode enabled drives.   The only reboots of the box 
 have been for newer versions of CURRENT and now STABLE.

My bios doen't give that level of control on the SATA controller.

 Same result the other poor schmuck got when he tried it.  There was
 also a suggestion that HT be turned off.  Kinda defeats the whole
 purpose of spending the extra $100 when I bought this system, so I
 didn't bother trying it - especially since there were folks out there
 that said it wasn't related - they had no problems with the Disk
 controller and HT.
 
 For the record I'm still running with HT enabled although I might turn 
 it off after reading many messages about how system performance is impacted.

Doesn't make sense, does it?  I guess I'll try turning mine off too.
Much as I hate to do it - considering the promises of SMP coolness in
5.3 is why I bought the HT chip.

  SNIP
 Hopefully the above is of some help.
 
 Good luck

Every little bit helps.

Thanks
Lou
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Soekris engineering routers

2004-10-30 Thread LiQuiD
Hi all,

I've noticed a few people mention this company, http://www.soekris.com
in the list now.  Their website claims they can be used with a compact
flash card.  I'm curious regarding their usage with a flash card as a
hard drive.  Has anyone successfully been able to install FreeBSD on one
of those boxes using a compact flash card?

If this were possible, I could replace my router with that, and a couple
clients' machines with something far smaller and with much less power
consumption.

Thanks,
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Re: How to get out of GNOME?

2004-10-30 Thread Jay O'Brien
pete wright wrote:
 On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 17:11:23 -0700, Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Running 4.10.

I added the GNOME package, updated the files it said to edit
when it was installing, and now I can't get out of GNOME,
even with editing (via ftp) the files back as they were in
the first place and rebooting.

How can I get back to a command line terminal?
 
 
 ctl+alt+F1 should bring you to a virtual terminal.  i bet gnome is
 launching GDM or XDM on boot, if you take that out of your startup
 scrips you should be all set.
 

Pete, Thank you. Now I can get control again. And yes, it had me copy
/X11R6/etc/rc.d/gdm.sh.sample as gdm.sh. I deleted the gdm.sh and now 
it doesn't boot into GNOME.

WHERE should I have found the magic ctl+alt+F1? Nowhere in the GNOME 
help, is it to be found, Google exit gnome and the like didn't find it 

Jay

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Re: Soekris engineering routers

2004-10-30 Thread David Kelly
On Oct 30, 2004, at 7:45 PM, LiQuiD wrote:
I've noticed a few people mention this company, http://www.soekris.com
in the list now.  Their website claims they can be used with a compact
flash card.  I'm curious regarding their usage with a flash card as a
hard drive.  Has anyone successfully been able to install FreeBSD on 
one
of those boxes using a compact flash card?
You should download the Soekris email lists' archives and do a bit of 
research. Yes, FreeBSD can and does run well off a CF card. There are 
plenty of tricks one can perform using the FreeBSD source to optimize 
for that target such as linking (most) all executables to shared 
libraries rather than static. Might as well put / and /usr on the same 
filesystem (necessary for the shared library thing to work right all 
the time). Add noatime to your mount flags. And hack up most of the 
/etc/rc scripts so as to minimize writing to your limited-life CF 
media.

Might be a good idea to make /var and /tmp as md filesystems.
IIRC one set of scripts and utilities for creating a minimal FreeBSD 
for Soekris is called MiniBSD.

Also look into picoBSD. IIRC this is where one puts most all needed 
files and binaries into one file image. Is how FreeBSD creates bootable 
install floppies. Make one with nothing but your router image and you 
might chose to boot the Soekris diskless off another FreeBSD machine.

Its been almost 2 years since I last did these sorts of tricks. Started 
with MiniBSD and expanded. For a former employer so I don't have it to 
share.

The Soekris products are solid and very good values. I think we had a 
few CPU's get too hot. Also I don't like to hear the oils on my finger 
sizzle when I touch a chip. So we glued big aluminum heatsinks to the 
CPU with special heatsink epoxy. Those heatsinks barely got warm in an 
unvented box. Our heatsinks blocked use of the PCMCIA slot, which we 
didn't use. Caution with the PCI slot, its 3.3 volt only. Hard to find 
a sound card which works at 3.3.

We bought one big heatsink surplus. Then cut about 1.75 squares out of 
it with a bandsaw for use on the Soekris.

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Re: More Intel ICH5 SATA150 hangs

2004-10-30 Thread David Kelly
On Oct 30, 2004, at 7:32 PM, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
On 10/29/04 10:54 PM, David Kelly sat at the `puter and typed:
I turned off HT on my Dell PE400SC (uses Intel ICH5 chipset) almost
instantly after installing FreeBSD. Partitioning and labeling my SATA
drives went just fine. System is on a PATA drive. Even striping the 
two
SATA drives with Vinum followed by newfs was fine. System locked hard
the instant I actually tried to use the SATA drives. Reformatted
without vinum and had similar lock/panic. This was possibly 5.2.1-p10.
Have darn near the latest 5.3 on it now and its running nicely w/o HT.

Pretty sure ULE was the scheduler being used when I had problems as I
remember when SCHED_4BSD was the new default. IMO, when it worked, ULE
ran smoother. Now it seems that one process can hog the filesystem
resources and block out another doing the exact same thing but to
another file.
That instance with HT was the first and only time FreeBSD messed up a
filesystem and I've had at least one FreeBSD machine running 24/7 
since
2.0.0-RELEASE. As a result I'm not much in the mood to re-enable HT 
now
that I have real data on the drives.
This is a bit disconcerting.  That implies that 5.2 isn't SMP stable.
Nobody with authority ever stated 5.x was stable in any form or 
fashion. I'm using it because if that box blows up it won't really be 
any skin of my nose. Meanwhile the fact it has had some problems has in 
some small way contributed toward getting them fixed.

For example, vinum panics at boot if autostarted, but gvinum does not.
As for SMP, its my understanding thats what the entire 5.x series is 
all about. Massive changes for SMP. Its also the root of the design 
philosophy disagreement that spurred the creation of Dragonfly. Only 
time will tell which, or both, are right. Meanwhile both are working on 
different paths toward improving SMP performance.

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Re: How to get out of GNOME?

2004-10-30 Thread Matt Navarre
On Saturday 30 October 2004 05:51, Jay O'Brien wrote:
 WHERE should I have found the magic ctl+alt+F1? Nowhere in the GNOME
 help, is it to be found, Google exit gnome and the like didn't find
 it

ctl+alt+F1 doesn't really quit Gnome. It switches to a virtual terminal that 
has getty instead of GDM running on it. 

For more on virtual terminals:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/consoles.html

For more on xdm/gdm/kdm:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html

That doesn't really cover gdm, but the basics are the same.
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Re: How to get out of GNOME?

2004-10-30 Thread Jay O'Brien
Matt Navarre wrote:

 On Saturday 30 October 2004 05:51, Jay O'Brien wrote:
 
WHERE should I have found the magic ctl+alt+F1? Nowhere in the GNOME
help, is it to be found, Google exit gnome and the like didn't find
it
 
 
 ctl+alt+F1 doesn't really quit Gnome. It switches to a virtual terminal that 
 has getty instead of GDM running on it. 
 

So I see h 

Ok, what DO I do to shut down gnome if I don't want it running?

Jay

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locate

2004-10-30 Thread george
I am getting this error upon running periodic weekly
it looks to me that there is a very long directory but I dont know a command
to find this directory. can someone help?
locate: integer out of +-MAXPATHLEN (1024): 1028 

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Re: How to get out of GNOME?

2004-10-30 Thread Subhro
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 18:58:18 -0700, Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 So I see h
 
 Ok, what DO I do to shut down gnome if I don't want it running?

I guess that would be a very good idea as Gnome DOES consume a
handsome amount of memory.

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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-30 Thread Robert Storey
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:12:19 +0200
Emanuel Strobl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 00:20 schrieb Paul Hoffman:
  Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to
  be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle
  PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector
  on the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run
  XWindows, and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice.
 
  Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should
  avoid?
 
 Bad idea IMHO. I'd suggest having a look at http://www.soekris.com/
 (net4501 for easiest requirements, better 4801, all in one extendable
 box) or if you 

Or else take a look at mini-ITX:

http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives/spearhead/mini-itx/

regards,
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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-30 Thread Nikolas Britton
Paul Hoffman wrote:
Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to 
be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle 
PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on 
the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, and 
I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice.

Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid?
--Paul Hoffman
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Here is a better idea!
Step 1: Go dumpster diving for old computers (Pentium 1 or better, 8MB 
IDE Storage Device or better, and a minimun of 48MB/Ram).
Step 2: Grab some networks cards wail your in the dumpster.
Step 3: Install said network cards into computers.
Step 4: Install and configure m0n0wall on said computers. 
http://m0n0.ch/wall/
Step 5: Profit???
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Total Cost: $0.00

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Re: locate

2004-10-30 Thread Ryan Thompson
george wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I am getting this error upon running periodic weekly it looks to me
that there is a very long directory but I dont know a command to find
this directory. can someone help?
# find / | awk '{ if (length = 1024) print }'
It's linear on the number of inodes, but it should be accurate
locate: integer out of +-MAXPATHLEN (1024): 1028
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Re: How to get out of GNOME?

2004-10-30 Thread Andrew Jones
Jay O'Brien wrote:
 
So I see h 

Ok, what DO I do to shut down gnome if I don't want it running?
Jay
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ctrl+alt+backspace. It crashes the xserver though, but it'll exit.
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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-30 Thread Nikolas Britton
Oh... If you don't want to do the dumpster diving then you can get some 
good stuff here:
http://www.retrobox.com/rbwww/home/search_results_pc_computers.asp?bin_id=worldpage=1Manufacturer_ID=CPU_ID=CPU_Speed_ID=RAM_ID=HD_Size_ID=CD_ROM_Flag=Price=order_by=price%5Fcurrent%5Fselling%5Fprice+asc
Shipping  Handling is $27.50 per unit though.

Nikolas Britton wrote:
Paul Hoffman wrote:
Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to 
be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle 
PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on 
the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, 
and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice.

Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid?
--Paul Hoffman
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Here is a better idea!
Step 1: Go dumpster diving for old computers (Pentium 1 or better, 8MB 
IDE Storage Device or better, and a minimun of 48MB/Ram).
Step 2: Grab some networks cards wail your in the dumpster.
Step 3: Install said network cards into computers.
Step 4: Install and configure m0n0wall on said computers. 
http://m0n0.ch/wall/
Step 5: Profit???
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Total Cost: $0.00

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Re: How to get out of GNOME?

2004-10-30 Thread Jay O'Brien
Andrew Jones wrote:
 Jay O'Brien wrote:

Ok, what DO I do to shut down gnome if I don't want it running?

 
 ctrl+alt+backspace. It crashes the xserver though, but it'll exit.

Nope. It doesn't work for me. With gdm/X running, ctl+alt+bksp goes 
first to black screen then comes back with a new logon window. If I 
do it enough times, it reports to the virtual terminal The display 
server has been shut down about 6 times in the last 90 seconds, it 
is likely that something bad is going on. I will wait for two minutes 
before trying again on display :0. and then it comes back on. 

If I use ctl+alt+F1 to go from GNOME to a virtual terminal, then try 
ctl+alt+backspace, it does nothing (except beep). Top reports that 
the processes that come up when I start gdm are XFree86, gdmlogin, 
and two gdm-binary processes. KILL seems to have no effect on them. 

There's got to be a way to shut GNOME and XFree86 down without 
rebooting! At least that works. I wonder if this may be the time 
to go to version 5 and the newer version of X?

Jay O'Brien

Specs: FreeBSD V4.10, GNOME package obtained today via the Internet 
using pkg_add -r gnome2.




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Re: FireFox crash on Print

2004-10-30 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 19:25, Jason Taylor wrote:
 Dan Finn wrote:
  [ root @ stewie : ~] : pkg_info |grep -i firefox
  firefox-1.0.1.p_4   Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla
  
  
  On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:31:52 -0500, Donald J. O'Neill
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 On Thursday 21 October 2004 02:48 pm, Dan Finn wrote:
 
 same here as well.
 ___
 
 Why don't you try a fresh cvsup of your ports tree. Then, upgrade to
 firefox-1.0.1.p_4. I think that's pretty much taken care of the
 problem for anyone who's done that.
 
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 FWIW, I'm seeing the same problem.
 
 aurvandil# pkg_info | grep -i firefox
 firefox-1.0.1.p_4   Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla

Refer to the archives on [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I sent a path for people to try.

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