Re: Mounting an FTP space ?
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:26:33 +1100
Malcolm Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What do I need to do to wipe the slate clean?
On 02/03/2007, at 11:53 AM, Chris Slothouber wrote:
make config
Yes. I don't know what arguments to pass to it. Where are the current
arguments being stored, surely I can edit that file?
If you run make config it pops up the dialog where you can choose
your options. Alternatively you can run make rmconfig to remove your
saved options so you will be asked again next time you run make.
The options are saved in /var/db/ports/${PORTNAME}/options
Although you could edit that file manually there is no point to it and
you could make errors.
I must say that when I tried curlftpfs is was not very stable but
perhaps you have better luck.
Regards,
Jona
Never you mind wrote:
On 02/03/2007, at 2:58 AM, John Nielsen wrote:
On Thursday 01 March 2007 01:37, Never you mind wrote:
On my Mac from the Finder I can select Connect to server, give
it the
details of an ftp location and it will connect and display the
ftp space as a drive on the desktop.
Can I obtain the same sort of functionality using freeBSD and
xfce desktop manager?
I haven't used it, but the sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs should allow
you to mount
an ftp location as a virtual filesystem. The desktop icon thing
you'll have
to work out on your own, but it shouldn't be too difficult (a
shortcut to
your chosen mountpoint should suffice).
I've just made an error during installation. At the dialog I
selected BOTH c-ares and IPV6.
That caused an error:
curl-7.16.0_1 does not support both c-ares and IPv6 - disable one
of them.
OK. I thought I'd simply run make install clean again and at the
dialog I would make my selection. However, I do not get to the
dialog. My choices have been saved somewhere and are being
re-used. I need to clean up from my first effort. What do I need
to do to wipe the slate clean?
malcolm
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Re: defrag
shell - so not a defrag issue, just a screwed registry or something). I used to reinstall my entire MS server every 6 months, on average... as rarely? looks that you are very good windows admin, or this MS server wasn't used much ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: defrag
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: backup+restore will be defrag you mean : backup, format, (reinstall if needed, depending on method of backup) s/format/newfs/g no reinstall, that's not windows. after restoring all files, bsdlabel -B /dev/your_disk is enough ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Serial Port Problems
- Original Message - From: Dan D Niles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: Serial Port Problems More Dell 2950 woes. I use serial ports to manage my FreeBSD machines remotely. I've never had any problems until now. I've installed FreeBSD 6.2 on a Dell 2950. The install goes without problems over the serial port. After the reboot, I get the typical: FreeBSD/i386 (test.host.net) (ttyd0) login: and I can log in just fine. If I disconnect and come back later (sometimes), or if I hit return without entering a login name (always) it starts spitting out junk like: Get a cheapie pci serial port card, plug it in, and see if it works any better Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups around here and I saw something interesting. On my lab's FreeBSD 6.2/i386 box (ASUS P4P800, ICH5 with two SATA 150 ports, two SATA 300 drives attached) I copied big files (~ 5GB) from one drive to another while the box didn't do anything else than copying. I watched the copy process via 'systat -vmstat 1' and realized, that the value of 'KB/t' never go byond 128 (128kb buffer limit?). But more frustrating, I never got beyond 33 MB/s transfer rate although bonni/bonni++ told me both drives are capable doing much more (~75 MB/s each). At home, I use a FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT box on an ASUS A8N32-SLI/nForce4-SLI based box, amd64 (no 32Bit compatibility). Two Hitachi T7K250 250 GB/SATA II drives build up a RAID 0 (nVidia MediaShield), and additionally there is a SAMSUNG Spinpoitn SP2004C attached to the controller. bonni results in 55 MB/s for the SP2004C alone and gives ~ 65 - 70 MB/s for the Hitachis, each and roughly 115 MB/s for the RAID 0. But copying from the single drive to the RAID 0 or from the RAID 0 to the single drive also reaches this oscure 33 MB/s boundary! In the first place I thought the older i386 hardware has some hard-limits, but we have several boxes of the exact same hardware around here and a wide spread Linux and Windows utilization and on those boxes equipted with more than one harddrive (PATA or SATA) the effective transfer rate shown up is about 50 - 65 MB/s as expected with copying a big 5G file from one drive to another. The hardwrae limit is completely nonsense when it comes to the AMD64 box with newer hardware. Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33 defaults, but on both boxes nForce4 and ICH5 controller are recognized and show up with SATA300 or SATA150 capabilities, respective)? May I have some knobs I'm not aware of to tune disk performance? I would appreciate any coments on that and if someone has some good ideas how to benchmark those subjects, please let me know. Regards, Oliver -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
another while the box didn't do anything else than copying. I watched the copy process via 'systat -vmstat 1' and realized, that the value of 'KB/t' never go byond 128 (128kb buffer limit?). But more frustrating, I never got what's wrong? FreeBSD uses 128k limit by default. edit /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h and change #define MAXPHYS (128 * 1024) /* max raw I/O transfer size */ to say #define MAXPHYS (1024 * 1024) /* max raw I/O transfer size */ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
- Original Message - From: O. Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:38 AM Subject: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups around here and I saw something interesting. blah blah blah deleted Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33 man mount read section on async linux by default mounts async freebsd by default mounts sync you can change FBSD to async then watch your fs scramble during a power failure no big deal, it's only your data. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
you can change FBSD to async then watch your fs scramble during a power failure no big deal, it's only your data. you are wrong, he talked about copying BIG files, and this shouldn't make a difference contrary to small files. there is something wrong there as i routinely get 70MB/s on my SATA server ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portupgrade query
-Original Message- From: Sergey Matveychuk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:54 PM To: Vizion Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade query Vizion wrote: I have multiple lines of stale dependencies reported from pkgdb -F all of which relate to bsdpan-Archive-Tar-1.30 or 1.16 witha report that the package is held. The lines are Stale dependency:bsdpan-Archive-Tar-[version] - [see NOTE below]: - Ignored (the package is held; specify -f to force) bsdpan-* are not real ports. They can't be processed as real ports. So they should be ignored (hold). Install them from ports or ignore the messages. -- Dixi. Sem. Thanks Sem But on its own, as shown in my original posting, that does not solve the problem as portupgrade -a does not know that and throws the error, reports a stale dependency and requires me to fix the problem!! I must be missing something here!! David ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unlisted camera in gtkam?
Try setting the camera to PTP mode, I've had success with unsupported camera's using this mode with ports/graphics/digikam. On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:48:54 +0200 t nagu tundmatu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to all, I have a problem with gtkam – my new camera (Pentax K10D) is not supported. I now got it listed in the menu but trying to 'add a new camera' gives a message 'could not initialize the camera.' Is there any trick I'm missing or is there maybe another program I can use (with the support of this camera) or maybe a third option? Thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
--- O. Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33 defaults, but on both boxes nForce4 and ICH5 controller are recognized and show up with SATA300 or SATA150 capabilities, respective)? May I have some knobs I'm not aware of to tune disk performance? I think, this 33MB/sec limit comes like this: The regular copy process (I think u used cp) reads with speed S from disk A and writes with speed S to disk B. But: While it reads, it doesnt write AND while it writes, it doesnt read. So you might want to try this: dd if=/diskA/fileA bs=128k | dd of=/diskB/fileB bs=128k You could also try just to read or to write. Or to readwrite with _independent_ processes. -Arne The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: defrag
On Thursday 01 March 2007 17:27, Pietro Cerutti wrote: On 3/1/07, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Kinsey wrote: groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* ~/ffs.ps /\/\ This is what worked for me: [~]gunzip -c /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/paper.ascii.gz paper.ascii [~]groff paper.ascii ffs.ps [~]ps2pdf ffs.ps [~]acroread ffs.pdf -- * //| //| Mario Lobo // |// | http://www.ipad.com.br // // ||| FreeBSD since 2.2.8 - 100% Rwindows-free * ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
Quoting Cheffo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:38:45 +0200): Hi, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: - Original Message - From: O. Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:38 AM Subject: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups around here and I saw something interesting. blah blah blah deleted Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33 man mount read section on async linux by default mounts async freebsd by default mounts sync you can change FBSD to async then watch your fs scramble during a power failure no big deal, it's only your data. Ted If SYNC is default how can you explain this: [12:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mount /dev/ad4s3a on / (ufs, local, synchronous) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad4s3d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s3f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s3e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) [...] So I'm pretty sure that for type ufs async is default. Both of you are wrong. By default noasync is used. This is different from sync and async. Feel free to look up the difference. Also I do not see why sync should report different speeds for copy and benchmark tools if they do the same thing? Because cp may behave differently than the tools used to benchmark. A dd may be more portable in this case. Just to be sure I added to my /tmp entry async in /etc/fstab: /dev/ad4s3d /tmpufs rw,async 2 2 umounted and mounted again and still have: /dev/ad4s3d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) IIRC when SU is used, async is not used even if specified. But I' not sure about this. Asides from the linux async-by-default there's maybe also the write-cache-off penalty in FreeBSD. But I'm not sure it is off by default. I disable the WC myself in loader.conf everywhere to be on the safe side and I don't feel like experimenting ATM (I'm ill in bed). If the same conditions are tested in FreeBSD and linux (which is not easy, as we don't share a common FS implementation, even when we support the same FS type) and the sync/async and WC related stuff can be ruled out, it may be a problem in the (S)ATA code and it would be nice if we would know about this. So please dig deeper into this (it can also be a problem with our cp or GEOM or whatever). Bye, Alexander. -- I heard one time you single-handedly defeated a hoard of rampaging of somethings in the something something system. -Fry http://www.Leidinger.netAlexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
Hi,
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
- Original Message -
From: O. Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:38 AM
Subject: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes
and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups
around here and I saw something interesting.
blah blah blah deleted
Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone
explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33
man mount
read section on async
linux by default mounts async
freebsd by default mounts sync
you can change FBSD to async
then watch your fs scramble during a power failure
no big deal, it's only your data.
Ted
If SYNC is default how can you explain this:
[12:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mount
/dev/ad4s3a on / (ufs, local, synchronous)
devfs on /dev (devfs, local)
/dev/ad4s3d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/ad4s3f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/ad4s3e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates)
[13:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/fstab
# DeviceMountpoint FStype Options Dump
Pass#
/dev/ad4s3b noneswapsw 0 0
/dev/ad4s3a / ufs rw,sync 1 1
/dev/ad4s3d /tmpufs rw 2 2
/dev/ad4s3f /usrufs rw 2 2
/dev/ad4s3e /varufs rw 2 2
And this is only because I manually add *sync* to my /etc/fstab.
E.g if sync is default why mount do not report that my /dev/ad4s3f on
/usr is mounted synchronous?
From what I seed in rc.X scripts mount -a -t ${mount_excludes} is used
to mount things form fstab at boot time (sync or async is not set
anywhere so we use dafault options here)
So I'm pretty sure that for type ufs async is default.
Also I do not see why sync should report different speeds for copy and
benchmark tools if they do the same thing?
Just to be sure I added to my /tmp entry async in /etc/fstab:
/dev/ad4s3d /tmpufs rw,async 2 2
umounted and mounted again and still have:
/dev/ad4s3d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates)
I think the problem is that the benchmark runs with small files and most
files are in cache that's why it shows higher speeds - try to run
bonnie++ with more and bigger files to be sure that the cache is not
enough and to be able to see the real performance of your HDDs.
PS:
Here is what I got from RAID10 4x160GB SATA2 HDDs (areca RAID)
BLAH - bonnie++ -d /var/tmp -u root -s 16g -n 256:65536:65536:16
Version 1.93c --Sequential Output-- --Sequential Input-
--Random-
Concurrency 1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block--
--Seeks--
MachineSize K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP
/sec %CP
blah.cmotd.com 16G 159 88 54264 24 24727 12 299 94 70744 19
223.5 12
Latency 63581us 803ms1123ms 93936us 94991us
251ms
Version 1.93c --Sequential Create-- Random
Create
blah.cmotd.com -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read---
-Delete--
files:max:min/sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP /sec %CP
/sec %CP
256:65536:65536/16 715 24 826 25 17321 49 733 2451 2
6039 70
Latency 1220ms 408ms2805ms1189ms 692ms
2735ms
50MB/s write 70MB/s read from 4HDDs .. so I do not know how you expect
75MB/s with single HDD.
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Re: defrag
Kevin Kinsey wrote: Kevin Kinsey wrote: Steve Franks wrote: How come I never hear defrag come up as a topic, and can't find anything related to defrag in the ports tree? Is it really not an issue on UFS? Can someone point me to an explantion if so? Thanks, Steve I'm thinking this one's in the FAQ at freebsd.org. Bah! HEADS-UP: Ignore any advice I feel compelled to give today. Two retractions in one hour would seem to demonstrate a cranial short-circuit this morning. Steve, it's not in the FAQ. Here's a link to a brief mailist discussion: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2003-July/000932.html Assuming you have Ghostscript installed (which may be a big IF), you might be able to take a gander at the document mentioned with something like: groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* ~/ffs.ps ps2pdf ~/ffs.ps acroread ~/ffs.pdf But there's probably a better way --- I'm certainly one offing today. If you dont mind reading in a terminal. gzcat /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* | more does the trick fine for me. By the way thanks for the link to the doc. Vince Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bandwidth limit server
pf + altq is your friend...(a whole lot of reading for you though) On 3/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any one have idea about bandwidth limitation on FreeBSD to act as distribution switch for an ISP's subscriber? Thanks Best Regards, Rithy RAY, CIO ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ph10 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: IPF (ftp - pkg_add) help requested
On 3/1/07, Kelly D. Grills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 04:10:11PM -0500, Don Munyak wrote: As I hinted at in my original response, If you'd rather keep your firewall rules tighter, pkg_add(1) says: Note: If you wish to use passive mode ftp in such transfers, set the variable FTP_PASSIVE_MODE to some value in your environment. ahh... now I see what your saying. I have my server setup to disallow root login from console. I login as user, then su to root. When I run # printenv |sort, This dispalys the env varibale for me, not root. How do I set|view env for root?..., specifically FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES -- OT... Kelley, btw...Baxter is cool :) I had a Pekingese once. For Halloween, I shaved off all her hair except for a 2 mohawk head-2-tail. I'll have to find the picture to send you some day. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
top
Hi all, FreeBSD 'top' 6.n does not seem to show anything when the i flag (don't display idle processes). the whole display (below the mem and cpu information header) goes blank. Any ideas? -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top
In response to Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, FreeBSD 'top' 6.n does not seem to show anything when the i flag (don't display idle processes). the whole display (below the mem and cpu information header) goes blank. Any ideas? Maybe all your processes are idle? What's the header look like when you do this? 99.9% idle, perhaps? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top
Please don't top-post. Please don't turn public discussions into private ones. Please read: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/index.html Format recovered, response in-line. In response to Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] In response to Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, FreeBSD 'top' 6.n does not seem to show anything when the i flag (don't display idle processes). the whole display (below the mem and cpu information header) goes blank. Any ideas? Maybe all your processes are idle? What's the header look like when you do this? 99.9% idle, perhaps? I have seen it drop to 50% idle, with no process showing. Again, this is when 'i' is selected. HEre is a quick capture I was able to get, note nothing showing in the process section. This had to be set to 5 secs refresh as I couldn't capture the cup usage fast enough at 1 second. I played with this a bit. It seems that top calculates whether a process is idle or not with a heavy bias toward idle. I didn't look in to the code, but it seems like a process has to be running for the lion's share of the calculated timeslice for it to be considered non-idle. I don't know if this is intended behaviour or not, but it's not broken, at worst it's badly dinged ;) Try this in another shell while watching top: while true; do STUFF=$PATH; done and it will show up. My guess is that your usage is caused by many small processes, each taking up a small portion of the total CPU, but none taking up enough CPU to be considered non-idle by top. last pid: 20389; load averages: 0.01, 0.23, 0.38 up 93+11:18:57 09:53:35 106 processes: 2 running, 102 sleeping, 2 zombie CPU states: 8.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.5% system, 0.0% interrupt, 90.5% idle Mem: 191M Active, 64M Inact, 125M Wired, 3768K Cache, 60M Buf, 110M Free Swap: 2048M Total, 189M Used, 1859M Free, 9% Inuse, 4K In PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPU COMMAND -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: defrag
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 02:17:31AM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: Jerry McAllister wrote: Well, it would do some, but for the greatest effect, you would need: dump + rm -rf * + restore This is nitpicking so ignore it: deleting all files on UFS2 volume won't restore it to it's pristine state because inodes are lazily initialized. It doesn't have anything to do with fragmentation, but will make fsck run a little longer. True it wouldn't be quite pristine because files would have different inodes assigned when they get reloaded than they might have if it was newfs-ed before reloading. That might make fsck run a tiny bit slower. But it wouldn't be any difference for a running system file access. On the other hand, doing all this either way wouldn't make any difference in performance for file access in a running system because so-called fragmentation is not an issue in the UNIX file system - except in the small possibility that it might make a bit of difference in a file system filled to capacity, well in to the reserve where non-root processes are not allowed to write anyway. I don't know just how close to absolutely full you have to get to see any difference, but it is beyond what users would normally get to. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: defrag
On 2007-03-02 11:27, Mario Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 01 March 2007 17:27, Pietro Cerutti wrote: On 3/1/07, Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Kinsey wrote: groff /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/* ~/ffs.ps This is what worked for me: [~]gunzip -c /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/paper.ascii.gz paper.ascii [~]groff paper.ascii ffs.ps [~]ps2pdf ffs.ps [~]acroread ffs.pdf Actually 'paper.ascii' is a plain ASCII file with some 'escape sequences' -- like literal backspace and repeated characters, to denote *bold* text. It's not valid groff input AFAIK, but you can strip off the special characters with: gunzip -c /usr/share/doc/smm/05.fastfs/paper.ascii.gz 05.fastfs.ascii col -b 05.fastfs.ascii 05.fastfs.txt rm 05.fastfs.ascii Then you have a plain text version of 05.fastfs.txt, which can be converted to PS and/or PDF with tools like a2ps or enscript :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual booting problems
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 12:34:10AM +, RW wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:30:26 -0900 Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should also mention that you need the FreeBSD boot manager on both disks, or an alternative boot manager such as grub or gag. Read the handbook. I recall reading that too, but I've never understood what it's supposed to achieve. I imagine it must be a quirk of the FreeBSD boot manager, I've certainly never needed to install more than one copy of GAG or LILO. You may have installed the single sector that is needed without knowing it. I don't play with those and so I am less familiar with how they operate. They use up some space that is normally available, but is not officially guaranteed to be available to have a larger program and more complex tables. In FreeBSD and according to how it is officially done in DOS partitioned disks, there is a one block utility that goes in sector 0. Since it is only one block, its ability to do things is highly limited. It has the slice table and some flags and just enough code to look at its slice table to see which slices are marked bootable and to look at other disk to see which ones have a similar boot block. This block is called the MBR. If there are more than one boot possibilities, it gives you a menu list. The first four menu numbers are reserved for slices on its own disk. Starting with 5, the menu items point to the MBR on other disk[s]. I have never tried it with more than 2 disks with bootable slices on them, so I don't know if it will list a 6 or beyond. The MBR is not supposed to be OS specific, but the MS MBR breaks that rule by not recognizing any slice or other MBR that is not MS. Each bootable slice on a disk (up to 4 are allowed) has its own boot sector. If you select F1-F4, then the MBR will cause the boot sector from that slice to be loaded and then it passes control to it. That slice' boot sector is OS specific and continues the boot process from there. If you select F5 (maybe F6 or more, I should try that some time) it will instead cause the MBR from that second (maybe third, etc) disk to be loaded and passes control to it. Then that MBR looks at its own slice table and makes up a menu if there are more than one bootable slices on that drive. Since the first drive's MBR does not read the second drive's slice table or attempt to boot any of its slices, but only passes control to the second MBR, then the second disk needs an MBR to take over and handle its own slice table and bootable slices. If there is only one bootable slice on a drive or you make it a 'dangerously dedicated drive' you can get away without a full MBR on that drive and put a 'standard' boot block on it, but why bother? Just always remember to put an MBR on every drive that has any bootable slices. Note that fdisk puts the MBR on the drive. But, bsdlabel puts the per slice boot sector on it. That per slice boot sector must always be there regardless of how many bootable slices or if the drive is 'dangerously dedicated' if you want that slice to be bootable. That is a different issue from the MBR. I hope that clarifies things rather than muddying them up. It is all in the handbook plus man pages, but the language is slightly more formal and there are still a couple places that mung the use of the words partition and slice even though most have been recently cleaned up. I found a couple the other day, I think in 6.1 (but I forgot to write them down. I should have sent in a PR). jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Serial Port Problems
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 01:33 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan D Niles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: Serial Port Problems More Dell 2950 woes. I use serial ports to manage my FreeBSD machines remotely. I've never had any problems until now. I've installed FreeBSD 6.2 on a Dell 2950. The install goes without problems over the serial port. After the reboot, I get the typical: FreeBSD/i386 (test.host.net) (ttyd0) login: and I can log in just fine. If I disconnect and come back later (sometimes), or if I hit return without entering a login name (always) it starts spitting out junk like: Get a cheapie pci serial port card, plug it in, and see if it works any better Ted I use console redirection to have access to the BIOS over the serial port. Can I redirect console output to a pci card? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. === Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. = Contents: I:Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction === This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the questions (the hackers). Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions == When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (obviously, substitute your mail address for [EMAIL PROTECTED]). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send how to questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since then, I have changed it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I were to try to remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD. Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 10:43:34AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: another while the box didn't do anything else than copying. I watched the copy process via 'systat -vmstat 1' and realized, that the value of 'KB/t' never go byond 128 (128kb buffer limit?). But more frustrating, I never got what's wrong? FreeBSD uses 128k limit by default. edit /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h and change #define MAXPHYS (128 * 1024) /* max raw I/O transfer size */ to say #define MAXPHYS (1024 * 1024) /* max raw I/O transfer size */ did anyone measure impact on various benchmark of this change? is 128k the optimal size for nowadays computers ? if we can squeeze more performance out of a typical box by just raising one define it would be great... roman ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
On 03/02/07 06:03, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Quoting Cheffo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:38:45 +0200): Hi, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: - Original Message - From: O. Hartmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:38 AM Subject: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0 The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups around here and I saw something interesting. blah blah blah deleted Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33 man mount read section on async linux by default mounts async freebsd by default mounts sync you can change FBSD to async then watch your fs scramble during a power failure no big deal, it's only your data. Ted If SYNC is default how can you explain this: [12:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mount /dev/ad4s3a on / (ufs, local, synchronous) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad4s3d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s3f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad4s3e on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) [...] So I'm pretty sure that for type ufs async is default. Both of you are wrong. By default noasync is used. This is different from sync and async. Feel free to look up the difference. Also I do not see why sync should report different speeds for copy and benchmark tools if they do the same thing? Because cp may behave differently than the tools used to benchmark. A dd may be more portable in this case. Just to be sure I added to my /tmp entry async in /etc/fstab: /dev/ad4s3d /tmpufs rw,async 2 2 umounted and mounted again and still have: /dev/ad4s3d on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) IIRC when SU is used, async is not used even if specified. But I' not sure about this. Asides from the linux async-by-default there's maybe also the write-cache-off penalty in FreeBSD. But I'm not sure it is off by default. I disable the WC myself in loader.conf everywhere to be on the safe side and I don't feel like experimenting ATM (I'm ill in bed). If the same conditions are tested in FreeBSD and linux (which is not easy, as we don't share a common FS implementation, even when we support the same FS type) and the sync/async and WC related stuff can be ruled out, it may be a problem in the (S)ATA code and it would be nice if we would know about this. So please dig deeper into this (it can also be a problem with our cp or GEOM or whatever). People should not be using file system tools to measure hardware speeds like SATA or disks. That doesn't make sense, since a portion of that benchmark would then include the file system, which as you mention is very very different between OS'es. cp shouldn't be used. dd is ok for bare minimum testing I suppose. On one of my SATA memory disks, I can get 125MB/s through it, with no extra magic. Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 10:38:35AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups around here and I saw something interesting. On my lab's FreeBSD 6.2/i386 box (ASUS P4P800, ICH5 with two SATA 150 ports, two SATA 300 drives attached) I copied big files (~ 5GB) from one drive to another while the box didn't do anything else than copying. I watched the copy process via 'systat -vmstat 1' and realized, that the value of 'KB/t' never go byond 128 (128kb buffer limit?). But more frustrating, I never got beyond 33 MB/s transfer rate although bonni/bonni++ told me both drives are capable doing much more (~75 MB/s each). At home, I use a FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT box on an ASUS A8N32-SLI/nForce4-SLI based box, amd64 (no 32Bit compatibility). Two Hitachi T7K250 250 GB/SATA II drives build up a RAID 0 (nVidia MediaShield), and additionally there is a SAMSUNG Spinpoitn SP2004C attached to the controller. bonni results in 55 MB/s for the SP2004C alone and gives ~ 65 - 70 MB/s for the Hitachis, each and roughly 115 MB/s for the RAID 0. But copying from the single drive to the RAID 0 or from the RAID 0 to the single drive also reaches this oscure 33 MB/s boundary! In the first place I thought the older i386 hardware has some hard-limits, but we have several boxes of the exact same hardware around here and a wide spread Linux and Windows utilization and on those boxes equipted with more than one harddrive (PATA or SATA) the effective transfer rate shown up is about 50 - 65 MB/s as expected with copying a big 5G file from one drive to another. The hardwrae limit is completely nonsense when it comes to the AMD64 box with newer hardware. Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33 defaults, but on both boxes nForce4 and ICH5 controller are recognized and show up with SATA300 or SATA150 capabilities, respective)? May I have some knobs I'm not aware of to tune disk performance? I would appreciate any coments on that and if someone has some good ideas how to benchmark those subjects, please let me know. One thing to keep in mind is that it matters a lot were on the disk you place the data due to the higher angular density of data at the outside of the disk. The results you are seeing are close to consistant with the kind of results I'd expect to see from writing at opposiste edges of the disk. The 33MB/s is suspious ane may diserve investigation, but make sure you are writing to the same part of the disk if you want to compare disk IO rates. There's an example of IO rates on recent large SATA disks: http://storagereview.com/articles/200607/500_2.html Also, you should time the actual copy and do the math to verify that vmstat is actually producing valid results. It's possible there's a bug in vmstat or the underlying statistics it uses. -- Brooks pgp3kTgCZ7ZtA.pgp Description: PGP signature
NeedHelp
Hello! I compiled mbmon ver. 2.05 (console version) under FreeBSD 6.2 RELEASE. But i have the following problem when try to observe values about fan-speeds, t's and voltages: mail:/usr/ports/sysutils/mbmon$ mbmon -d -A 1 ioctl(smb0:open): No such file or directory SMBus[ALi M1533/1543C] found, but No HWM available on it!! Summary of Detection: * No monitors found. InitMBInfo: Bad file descriptor I think there is no kernel driver for ALi M1533/1543C device support, because devfs cannot create /dev/smb0. Could you please help me where i can get the driver for 6.2 RELEASE? This chip is integrated into ASUS P5RD1-VM motherboard. Thank you a lot! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual booting problems
Jerry McAllister wrote: If you select F5 (maybe F6 or more, I should try that some time) it will instead cause the MBR from that second (maybe third, etc) disk to be loaded and passes control to it. F5 moves to the next disk. From that next disk F5 moves on to the next disk again and so forth until there are no more disks and then it moves you back to the first disk. No F6 or greater. F5 will only successfully move on if there is a FreeBSD MBR (*) on the next disk. If there is not such an MBR, the F5 option is displayed but will not work (maybe beep?) and after a while you will timeout and boot whatever default you have. Bad idea to lose the MBR from a disk in the middle of a chain, but easy to put back booting from CD1. So as the OP had: F1: FreeBSD F5: Disk 2 (Windows) but had not put FreeBSD MBR on that second disk, F5 did nothing and then the F1 default kicked in and booted FreeBSD. Had the MBR been on that second disk it would have started to boot windows and then likely rebooted because the disk was no longer in the same position in the chain as it had been when Windows was installed. I don't believe it is necessary for Windows to always be the first disk, just that the disk has to stay in the same position as it was in when Windows was installed, which is usually the first disk! (Never tested that though). --Alex (*) Actually I have no idea what would happen if you stuck some other booter like grub or gag on a later disk. But blank (new) disk or Windows MBR will not move on. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 library question..
On 01/03/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Ive done a few searches, and installing open-motif seemed to be the right answer, but isnt getting me anywhere. Indeed, % find /usr/X11R6/ -type f -iname *libxm* . . . /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 . . . % grep -r libXm /var/db/pkg/ . . . /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.a /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so.3 . . . % ldconfig -r | grep libXm . . . 127:-lXm.3 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 . . . You may need to run ldconfig -R (or ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib if /usr/X11R6/lib somehow did not get in the hints file). Alternatively, you may have an older version of open-motif, which means you need to upgrade it. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
musicpd frustrations
Hi all, I'm trying to get musicpd to start on bootup. I'm doing my best to follow the documentation on the website, but there are slight contradictions as far as where to put config files. Right now I have the line musicpd_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf, the file /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd, and the file /usr/local/etc/mpd.conf, which looks like this: port 6600 music_directory ~/music playlist_directory ~/playlists log_file ~/.mpdlog error_file~/.mpderror db_file ~/.mpddb filesystem_charset ISO-8859-1 user sdjones I can start musicpd by typing /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd start but it won't start at bootup. -- Sam Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual booting problems
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:39:05PM +, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Jerry McAllister wrote: If you select F5 (maybe F6 or more, I should try that some time) it will instead cause the MBR from that second (maybe third, etc) disk to be loaded and passes control to it. F5 moves to the next disk. From that next disk F5 moves on to the next disk again and so forth until there are no more disks and then it moves you back to the first disk. No F6 or greater. OK. That makes sense. I have not had enough disk on hand to try beyond two. F5 will only successfully move on if there is a FreeBSD MBR (*) on the next disk. If there is not such an MBR, the F5 option is displayed but will not work (maybe beep?) and after a while you will timeout and boot whatever default you have. Hmmm. I thought it would still do a 'dedicated' FreeBSD disk as the second one without an MBR. It will do the first disk, but that is a different situation, of course. Bad idea to lose the MBR from a disk in the middle of a chain, but easy to put back booting from CD1. Yup. If you lose the MBR, it can be put back using the Fixit from the installation CD (CD-1). So as the OP had: F1: FreeBSD F5: Disk 2 (Windows) but had not put FreeBSD MBR on that second disk, F5 did nothing and then the F1 default kicked in and booted FreeBSD. Had the MBR been on that second disk it would have started to boot windows and then likely rebooted because the disk was no longer in the same position in the chain as it had been when Windows was installed. Makes sense. I don't keep up with the Windows stuff much, but I knew it would not be happy in that position and the lack of an MBR on the second disk was where the boot process was stopping. I don't believe it is necessary for Windows to always be the first disk, just that the disk has to stay in the same position as it was in when Windows was installed, which is usually the first disk! (Never tested that though). Hmmm. Might be interesting to experiment, though that time spent on MS could probably be better spend elsewhere. --Alex (*) Actually I have no idea what would happen if you stuck some other booter like grub or gag on a later disk. But blank (new) disk or Windows MBR will not move on. Don't know this one. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual booting problems
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:37:26 -0500 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 12:34:10AM +, RW wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:30:26 -0900 Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should also mention that you need the FreeBSD boot manager on both disks, or an alternative boot manager such as grub or gag. Read the handbook. I recall reading that too, but I've never understood what it's supposed to achieve. I imagine it must be a quirk of the FreeBSD boot manager, I've certainly never needed to install more than one copy of GAG or LILO. If you select F5 (maybe F6 or more, I should try that some time) it will instead cause the MBR from that second (maybe third, etc) disk to be loaded and passes control to it. Then that MBR looks at its own slice table and makes up a menu if there are more than one bootable slices on that drive. In other words it *is* a quirk of the FreeBSD boot manager, in that it doesn't allow you to chainload a partition on another drive directly. You have to chainload the intermediate MBR which needs a second copy of the bootmanager. Most bootmanagers can do this directly, using the partition table on the other drive. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache Rotate Logs and Log Rotate.
On 3/1/07, Peter Pluta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I did was made a new log format to include the %v (it includes the vhost name in the logs). Lowered my error log to just info. I also got rid of the errorlog and customlog in my vhost brackets and setup newsyslog to rotate the http-access.log and http-error.log after 24 hours. This is what I pretty much wanted. I have more space in /home/ now since there are no log files in there and I also have 1 main log that I can rotate and view or separate if needed. It makes it a lot easier. I have a quick question though. Say I am hosting a few sites for customers and they want to run their own statistics programs that rely on log files. How would I deal with the logs if they were in each users home directory? Those logs add up after a week or so; not to mention if someone had a larger site that generated larger logs. What exactly could be done in that situation to allow stats and still have a functional web server? Hi Peter, What I do with stats is use webalizer which is available from the ports directory as www/webalizer. Webalizer keeps the history of your logs, so you don't have to keep the old ones around. I run webalizer from cron once and a while to generate stats. I've wraped it in a simple shell script to check all my virtual sites listed in a custom config file in /usr/local/etc and dump the stats file into /path/to/virtual/host/stats. I then setup a /stats Alias in httpd.conf for each virtual site and protect it with a simple .htpasswd. Easy. BTW, may I suggest you also include the freebsd-questions list in Cc when you write back? Some people might be interested by what we're talking about. In fact, ideally we should only 'talk' via the list, but that's ok with me. Cheers, David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find returns unusable result
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007, Vince wrote:
Josh Tolbert wrote:
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:12:58PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
I'd like to cron a process that looks at a certain folder every day and
changes the perms on a directory if they aren't what I want.
Unfortunately, the people creating the folders are Windows folks using
WinSCP, and so they create folders with spaces in them. (E.g. Day 1, Day
2, etc.)
I thought I could just do this:
chmod 755 `find /path/to/dirs -type d`
but find returns a directory name of Day, Day, Day, which (obviously)
doesn't work.
From the cli, find returns the actual directory name.
How can I get find to return the dirs correctly in a script? Or is there
some other way to do this that would work?
Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
find /path/to/dirs -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 755
or just
find /path/to/dirs -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
should do it.
While that works, the -print0 | xargs -0 is far more efficient as it isn't
exec'ing a process for every match. This may not be important for a few
files or directories, but can make a significant difference when processing
thousands of entries.
Bill
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Re: Dual booting problems
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:49:23 -0500 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:39:05PM +, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: (*) Actually I have no idea what would happen if you stuck some other booter like grub or gag on a later disk. But blank (new) disk or Windows MBR will not move on. Don't know this one. Presumably it would just chainload the other bootmanager, but there's not much point in doing that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NeedHelp
On 02/03/07, Igor V. Ruzanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I compiled mbmon ver. 2.05 (console version) under FreeBSD 6.2 RELEASE. But i have the following problem when try to observe values about fan-speeds, t's and voltages: mail:/usr/ports/sysutils/mbmon$ mbmon -d -A 1 ioctl(smb0:open): No such file or directory SMBus[ALi M1533/1543C] found, but No HWM available on it!! Summary of Detection: * No monitors found. InitMBInfo: Bad file descriptor I think there is no kernel driver for ALi M1533/1543C device support, because devfs cannot create /dev/smb0. Could you please help me where i can get the driver for 6.2 RELEASE? This chip is integrated into ASUS P5RD1-VM motherboard. You need to compile smb support into your kernel, as it is not in the GENERIC kernel. See /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual booting problems
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:52:52PM +, RW wrote: On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:37:26 -0500 Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 12:34:10AM +, RW wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:30:26 -0900 Beech Rintoul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should also mention that you need the FreeBSD boot manager on both disks, or an alternative boot manager such as grub or gag. Read the handbook. I recall reading that too, but I've never understood what it's supposed to achieve. I imagine it must be a quirk of the FreeBSD boot manager, I've certainly never needed to install more than one copy of GAG or LILO. If you select F5 (maybe F6 or more, I should try that some time) it will instead cause the MBR from that second (maybe third, etc) disk to be loaded and passes control to it. Then that MBR looks at its own slice table and makes up a menu if there are more than one bootable slices on that drive. In other words it *is* a quirk of the FreeBSD boot manager, in that it doesn't allow you to chainload a partition on another drive directly. You have to chainload the intermediate MBR which needs a second copy of the bootmanager. Most bootmanagers can do this directly, using the partition table on the other drive. I wouldn't call it a quirk of FreeBSD. FreeBSD does it the 'canonical' way. The others use additional space on the rest of the track, that is technically not available, to make a bigger program and tables that can do additional things. That's nice, but not officially supported. So, it is really a _quirk_ of Grub/Gag/others and not guaranteed to work. What would be really nice is if the world just decided to create an official standard that makes that whole track available since it really most often is - actually, I don't know any modern system where it is not, but I haven't made a survey. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
On 03/02/07 09:28, Brooks Davis wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 10:38:35AM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote: The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups around here and I saw something interesting. On my lab's FreeBSD 6.2/i386 box (ASUS P4P800, ICH5 with two SATA 150 ports, two SATA 300 drives attached) I copied big files (~ 5GB) from one drive to another while the box didn't do anything else than copying. I watched the copy process via 'systat -vmstat 1' and realized, that the value of 'KB/t' never go byond 128 (128kb buffer limit?). But more frustrating, I never got beyond 33 MB/s transfer rate although bonni/bonni++ told me both drives are capable doing much more (~75 MB/s each). At home, I use a FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT box on an ASUS A8N32-SLI/nForce4-SLI based box, amd64 (no 32Bit compatibility). Two Hitachi T7K250 250 GB/SATA II drives build up a RAID 0 (nVidia MediaShield), and additionally there is a SAMSUNG Spinpoitn SP2004C attached to the controller. bonni results in 55 MB/s for the SP2004C alone and gives ~ 65 - 70 MB/s for the Hitachis, each and roughly 115 MB/s for the RAID 0. But copying from the single drive to the RAID 0 or from the RAID 0 to the single drive also reaches this oscure 33 MB/s boundary! In the first place I thought the older i386 hardware has some hard-limits, but we have several boxes of the exact same hardware around here and a wide spread Linux and Windows utilization and on those boxes equipted with more than one harddrive (PATA or SATA) the effective transfer rate shown up is about 50 - 65 MB/s as expected with copying a big 5G file from one drive to another. The hardwrae limit is completely nonsense when it comes to the AMD64 box with newer hardware. Before digging into this problem deeper with benchmarks, could anyone explain why FreeBSD reaches this 33 MB/s limit (sounds like UDMA 33 defaults, but on both boxes nForce4 and ICH5 controller are recognized and show up with SATA300 or SATA150 capabilities, respective)? May I have some knobs I'm not aware of to tune disk performance? I would appreciate any coments on that and if someone has some good ideas how to benchmark those subjects, please let me know. One thing to keep in mind is that it matters a lot were on the disk you place the data due to the higher angular density of data at the outside of the disk. The results you are seeing are close to consistant with the kind of results I'd expect to see from writing at opposiste edges of the disk. The 33MB/s is suspious ane may diserve investigation, but make sure you are writing to the same part of the disk if you want to compare disk IO rates. There's an example of IO rates on recent large SATA disks: http://storagereview.com/articles/200607/500_2.html Also, you should time the actual copy and do the math to verify that vmstat is actually producing valid results. It's possible there's a bug in vmstat or the underlying statistics it uses. I usually use gstat instead, but it might also be off (although my tests in the past have not proven that). Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: musicpd frustrations
- Original Message - From: Sam Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: musicpd frustrations Hi all, I'm trying to get musicpd to start on bootup. I'm doing my best to follow the documentation on the website, but there are slight contradictions as far as where to put config files. Right now I have the line musicpd_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf, the file /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd, and the file /usr/local/etc/mpd.conf, which looks like this: port 6600 music_directory ~/music playlist_directory ~/playlists log_file ~/.mpdlog error_file~/.mpderror db_file ~/.mpddb filesystem_charset ISO-8859-1 user sdjones I can start musicpd by typing /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd start but it won't start at bootup. -- Sam Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd should be /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd.sh for it to be started at bootup unless things have changed in the bootup requirements that I'm not aware of. -- Micheal Patterson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
At 04:38 AM 3/2/2007, O. Hartmann wrote: The last days I tried to figure out why some of my lab's FreeBSD boxes and also mine at home seem to be outperformed by some Linux setups around here and I saw something interesting. On my lab's FreeBSD 6.2/i386 box (ASUS P4P800, ICH5 with two SATA 150 ports, two SATA 300 drives attached) I copied big files (~ 5GB) from one drive to Something strange about your setup I would say. I just tried on a Segate SATA drive off an ICH5 chipset (plain old P IV 2.4Ghz). Do you have an option in your BIOS for native mode or compatibility mode for the SATA controller ? If so, try toggling that to native SATA mode [ns4]% iostat -c 1000 tty ad4twed0 cpu tin tout KB/t tps MB/s KB/t tps MB/s us ni sy in id 2 447 4.91 0 0.00 23.77 40 0.92 20 0 6 0 74 4 307 0.00 0 0.00 12.61 14 0.17 0 0 0 0 100 1 183 0.00 0 0.00 14.50 4 0.06 0 0 0 0 100 1 63 128.00 47 5.82 0.00 0 0.00 7 0 7 0 86 0 182 128.00 534 66.70 15.25 8 0.12 0 0 15 8 77 0 60 128.00 553 69.13 2.00 2 0.00 0 0 8 8 85 0 182 128.00 537 67.14 14.50 4 0.06 15 0 31 15 38 0 60 128.00 553 69.06 0.00 0 0.00 54 0 0 8 38 0 60 128.00 538 67.21 0.00 0 0.00 23 0 0 8 69 1 301 128.00 495 61.88 12.18 22 0.26 0 0 8 0 92 [ns4]# dd if=/dev/ad4 of=/dev/null bs=1024k ^C410+0 records in 410+0 records out 429916160 bytes transferred in 6.089321 secs (70601659 bytes/sec) [ns4]# [ns4]# atacontrol cap ad4 Protocol Serial ATA II device model ST3400833NS serial number 5NF25DTG firmware revision 3.AEH cylinders 16383 heads 16 sectors/track 63 lba supported 268435455 sectors lba48 supported 781422768 sectors dma supported overlap not supported Feature Support EnableValue Vendor write cacheyes yes read ahead yes yes Native Command Queuing (NCQ) yes - 31/0x1F Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no 31/0x1F SMART yes yes microcode download yes yes security yes no power management yes yes advanced power management no no 65278/0xFEFE automatic acoustic management no no 0/0x00 254/0xFE [ns4]# ___ freebsd-performance@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-performance To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question about a specific ISP: Amen/Amenworld
Hello folks, I'm interested in a dedicated server plan from a somewhat big company called Amenworld (www.amenworld.com) but the sales technician is telling me that amen technicians can't install freebsd on the machines. After some googling I found that they are hosting some freebsd machines (if this counts for anything). Is there anyone here that by any change is a client on this company and runs freebsd? Thanks in advance Regards -- Alexandre Vieira - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
slice/booting problem
I have a two disk system, and I'm trying to install FBSD6.2 on slice 2 of the second disk, a configuration that I've had working in the past. I'm using the Standard installation, select the second disk (ad1) and create a slice (ad1s2) and then create the partitions within that slice. On that disk, I install the FreeBSD Boot Manager (I have a third party boot manager installed on ad0 that boots FreeBSD). During the install, I ls /dev and find the ad1s2 partitions created. After the install, when I try to re-boot, it fails when it trys to mountroot. When I enter ?, I get a listr of GEOM managed disks, but the partitions are not listed, while the slice is. Any ideas on what I'm missing??? Thanks Jim Ballantine ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, I skip'd reporting last month, like anyone missed it, right? Well, last month, and this month, have been seen ~10% increases in first of month numbers, so its still growing ... Thanks to all that are participating ... for those just tuning in, please check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... there was a new version put up (v5.3, already in FreeBSD ports) over the past little while that extends the reporting for the FreeBSD ports system ... I have no experience with any of the other *BSD ports systems, but if someone would like to submit a patch to include theirs, please feel free. It is another purely optional report that gives numbers of ports in use, including version numbers, for the various software packages. FebMar % Chg DesktopBSD 9 13 44% 8 13 62% DragonFly 17 10 -41% 12 10 -16% FreeBSD 4297 4147 -3% 3719 38904% MidnightBSD 3 1 -66% 0 1 -100% MirBSD 13 3 -76% 0 0 -100% NetBSD126116 -7% 99 97 -2% OpenBSD 94 82 -12% 64 73 14% PC-BSD 4223765 -81% 151303 100% Overall 8782 5137 -41% 4053 43878% - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF6HnX4QvfyHIvDvMRArHcAJoCTG5qxniyCX4pBO4BUqaFWkZyrgCdFSRU ii1pXBhv+FjueDEzWHaCddc= =eWFN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dhclient.conf + resolv.conf
I am trying to have dhclient setup my resolv.conf perfect.
I am very close.
I have this in dhclient.conf:
-
interface bge1 {
supersede domain-name wixb.com;
prepend domain-name-servers 192.l68.1.1;
request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, routers, domain-name-servers;
}
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What this is giving me is this:
search wixb.com
nameserver 192.168.1.1
nameserver 24.94.163.100
nameserver 24.94.163.101
What I would like to do is change the 'search' to 'domain' and cant
figure out what I am missing?
-JD
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Re: slice/booting problem
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 03:12:55PM -0500, J. W. Ballantine wrote: I have a two disk system, and I'm trying to install FBSD6.2 on slice 2 of the second disk, a configuration that I've had working in the past. I'm using the Standard installation, select the second disk (ad1) and create a slice (ad1s2) and then create the partitions within that slice. On that disk, I install the FreeBSD Boot Manager (I have a third party boot manager installed on ad0 that boots FreeBSD). During the install, I ls /dev and find the ad1s2 partitions created. After the install, when I try to re-boot, it fails when it trys to mountroot. When I enter ?, I get a listr of GEOM managed disks, but the partitions are not listed, while the slice is. Any ideas on what I'm missing??? Just a wild guess: That either the first or second disk didn't really get an MBR written to it - or the third party boot manager on the first disk might not play nicely with the one on the second disk. Try using fdisk (from the install CD fixit if necessary) to write the FreeBSD MBR to both disks. You can put the other third party booter back afterward if desired/needed. jerry Thanks Jim Ballantine ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006
On Fri, March 2, 2007 13:24, Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Well, I skip'd reporting last month, like anyone missed it, right? I did :) Well, last month, and this month, have been seen ~10% increases in first of month numbers, so its still growing ... The numbers are still so low that I question if the project's goal will be realized. Is it too early to extrapolate what the real numbers may be? i.e., if we've got 5000 FreeBSD hosts, and we know about 1 in 50 register, then there are probably 250,000 hosts in the wild? -- Regards, Doug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find returns unusable result
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:38:24PM -0800, Bill Campbell wrote:
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007, Vince wrote:
Josh Tolbert wrote:
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 05:12:58PM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
I'd like to cron a process that looks at a certain folder every day and
changes the perms on a directory if they aren't what I want.
Unfortunately, the people creating the folders are Windows folks using
WinSCP, and so they create folders with spaces in them. (E.g. Day 1, Day
2, etc.)
I thought I could just do this:
chmod 755 `find /path/to/dirs -type d`
but find returns a directory name of Day, Day, Day, which (obviously)
doesn't work.
From the cli, find returns the actual directory name.
How can I get find to return the dirs correctly in a script? Or is there
some other way to do this that would work?
Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
find /path/to/dirs -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 755
or just
find /path/to/dirs -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
should do it.
While that works, the -print0 | xargs -0 is far more efficient as it isn't
exec'ing a process for every match. This may not be important for a few
files or directories, but can make a significant difference when processing
thousands of entries.
I don't mean to steal this thread, but it might help to know if
egrep -[xyz] bar or other things might be joined in the | xargs
part of the pipeline. Lots of times I'll want a find search to
print0 filename and egrep, say, -3 strings and search for
substrings nearby. The greps will recurse across many dirs with
scores of files so I want to search to be efficient. In other
words, how flexible is xargs?
gary
Bill
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Re: BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006
On 02/03/07, Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, March 2, 2007 13:24, Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Well, I skip'd reporting last month, like anyone missed it, right? I did :) Well, last month, and this month, have been seen ~10% increases in first of month numbers, so its still growing ... The numbers are still so low that I question if the project's goal will be realized. Is it too early to extrapolate what the real numbers may be? i.e., if we've got 5000 FreeBSD hosts, and we know about 1 in 50 register, then there are probably 250,000 hosts in the wild? Based on a bit of trolling about, netcraft's most recent survey (that I could find) including operating systems numbers, which is March 2001 (surveys after that do not seem to have any sort of detailed OS counts), gives the BSDs as a whole at 6.3%, which is about 1.8 million sites running on one of the BSDs. Further futzing leads to http://leb.net/hzo/ioscount/data/r.9904.txt which shows as of April of 1999 15% of hosts being BSDs of some sort. The only queried about 1.7million hosts, though, and hosts are not sites or domain names. If I were an environemntal science major, I would conclude that BSDs as a whole are losing 4.3% of the aggregate per year, and currently have -19.5% of the web. Further more, by the year 2156 (when Mola Ram is due to rip the still beating heart from tEh interwob) the BSD family, including such holdouts as BSDi, FrogBSD, SkullCapBSD, and whatever fork of NetBSD happens to work on a nucul0r toaster of the year 2156 will be so widely deinstalled that you will need to write almost 2 billion new distros a month just to keep up with how many are being moved to iis. Also, there won't be any oil and your kids's kids will have suntans on their bone marrow. These numbers are important because they show that marketing works. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Users unable to write to mounted FAT32 partition
OK, I've scoured the archives for an answer with no results. I'm sharing a FAT32 partition between XP and 6.2 Release. The problem is I can mount the drive but only root can write to it (users can just read). I have the following in fstab: /dev/asd42/mydosmsdosfs rw 0 0 I've tried adding the -u or -g option with no luck. I understand that since FAT has no inherent permissions chmod has no effect either (tried it just to be sure) so it must be set from fstab. Any help? Thanks! M.G. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Users unable to write to mounted FAT32 partition
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:14:14PM -0600, Michael G. wrote: OK, I've scoured the archives for an answer with no results. I'm sharing a FAT32 partition between XP and 6.2 Release. The problem is I can mount the drive but only root can write to it (users can just read). I have the following in fstab: /dev/asd42/mydosmsdosfs rw 0 0 I've tried adding the -u or -g option with no luck. I understand that since FAT has no inherent permissions chmod has no effect either (tried it just to be sure) so it must be set from fstab. Any help? What are the owner and permissions on the mount point (/mydos)? jerry Thanks! M.G. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
COPYING DATA TO NTFS
Using the FreeBSD booter to manage both Windoz XP and FreeBSD 6.1 on the same SCSI drive. Under FreeBSD I've got XP mounted, and I've been able to examine the XP directories, but when I try to copy data or the contents of directories from FreeBSD to XP. Usingcp -R format, nothing copies, and I get error messages that the target files don't exist. Is FreeBSD not capable of copying to NTFS? Please help! Parker Brown ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COPYING DATA TO NTFS
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 15:39:30 -0800 Parker Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using the FreeBSD booter to manage both Windoz XP and FreeBSD 6.1 on the same SCSI drive. Under FreeBSD I've got XP mounted, and I've been able to examine the XP directories, but when I try to copy data or the contents of directories from FreeBSD to XP. Usingcp -R format, nothing copies, and I get error messages that the target files don't exist. Is FreeBSD not capable of copying to NTFS? No. Or at least writing support is very experimental and might break your NTFS partition. However there is ntfs-3g in the ports (sysutils/fusefs-ntfs). This driver has read/write support. I've never used it so I can't tell you more. More info: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/ Regards, Jona -- Hi, I'm a .signature virus! Copy me to your .signature file and help me propagate, thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Users unable to write to mounted FAT32 partition
Jerry, Owner of /mydos is root and Group is wheel. User has rwx while Group and Other only have r-x M.G. Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:14:14PM -0600, Michael G. wrote: OK, I've scoured the archives for an answer with no results. I'm sharing a FAT32 partition between XP and 6.2 Release. The problem is I can mount the drive but only root can write to it (users can just read). I have the following in fstab: /dev/asd42/mydosmsdosfs rw 0 0 I've tried adding the -u or -g option with no luck. I understand that since FAT has no inherent permissions chmod has no effect either (tried it just to be sure) so it must be set from fstab. Any help? What are the owner and permissions on the mount point (/mydos)? jerry Thanks! M.G. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Users unable to write to mounted FAT32 partition
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Michael G. wrote: Owner of /mydos is root and Group is wheel. User has rwx while Group and Other only have r-x Well, there it is. I think users who want to write to this filesystem need to have write permission on the mountpoint. How about creating a group, perhaps users, of which all users are members, then chown root:users /mydos, then chmod 775 /mydos Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:14:14PM -0600, Michael G. wrote: OK, I've scoured the archives for an answer with no results. I'm sharing a FAT32 partition between XP and 6.2 Release. The problem is I can mount the drive but only root can write to it (users can just read). I have the following in fstab: /dev/asd42/mydosmsdosfs rw 0 0 I've tried adding the -u or -g option with no luck. I understand that since FAT has no inherent permissions chmod has no effect either (tried it just to be sure) so it must be set from fstab. Any help? What are the owner and permissions on the mount point (/mydos)? -- Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Users unable to write to mounted FAT32 partition
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 07:30:50PM -0500, Chris Hill wrote: On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Michael G. wrote: Owner of /mydos is root and Group is wheel. User has rwx while Group and Other only have r-x Well, there it is. I think users who want to write to this filesystem need to have write permission on the mountpoint. How about creating a group, perhaps users, of which all users are members, then chown root:users /mydos, then chmod 775 /mydos That would be my thinking. Maybe make a mydos group and only put users in that you want to be able to r/w the mydos slice instead of everybody and then chown it to root:mydos would seem 'safer' if there are a bunch of users on the machine. jerry Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:14:14PM -0600, Michael G. wrote: OK, I've scoured the archives for an answer with no results. I'm sharing a FAT32 partition between XP and 6.2 Release. The problem is I can mount the drive but only root can write to it (users can just read). I have the following in fstab: /dev/asd42/mydosmsdosfs rw 0 0 I've tried adding the -u or -g option with no luck. I understand that since FAT has no inherent permissions chmod has no effect either (tried it just to be sure) so it must be set from fstab. Any help? What are the owner and permissions on the mount point (/mydos)? -- Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** [ Busy Expunging | ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COPYING DATA TO NTFS
Did you read the manpage of mount_ntfs? Have a look to the writing section: There is limited writing ability. Limitations: file must be nonresident and must not contain any sparces (uninitialized areas); compressed files are also not supported. The file name must not contain multibyte characters. Writing on NTFS with FreeBSd is a bad idea. You should switch to FAT if you need to exchange files between this to systems. Greets Marco Parker Brown schrieb: Using the FreeBSD booter to manage both Windoz XP and FreeBSD 6.1 on the same SCSI drive. Under FreeBSD I've got XP mounted, and I've been able to examine the XP directories, but when I try to copy data or the contents of directories from FreeBSD to XP. Usingcp -R format, nothing copies, and I get error messages that the target files don't exist. Is FreeBSD not capable of copying to NTFS? Please help! Parker Brown ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Serial Port Problems
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:27:19 -0600, in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: More Dell 2950 woes. I use serial ports to manage my FreeBSD machines remotely. I've never had any problems until now. I've installed FreeBSD 6.2 on a Dell 2950. The install goes without problems over the serial port. After the reboot, I get the typical: FreeBSD/i386 (test.host.net) (ttyd0) login: and I can log in just fine. If I disconnect and come back later (sometimes), or if I hit return without entering a login name (always) it starts spitting out junk like: I get similar strange results as well on Server Works BIOS based machines. I usually talk to them through a pm25. For me, I have to make sure flow control is off on both ends (no software, no hardware). Also, login gets confused if you start with an enter for some reason. I can generally recover from this seemingly hung state with a bunch of CTRL+d's. Not sure if it will help you, but the symptons are somewhat like what I see. Whats odd is that it all works just fine from the loader prompt and if I boot into single user mode. But soon as getty/login take over, its very picky. ---Mike Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 [EMAIL PROTECTED], (http://www.tancsa.com) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux equivalent to freebsd
If you have a (Free)BSD mindset and like your rc.conf but don't mind typing pacman instead of pkg_* or portupgrade -P * and you don't mind using something called ABS for src packages, which is like ports, only with a stage install before live-system install, then you may just like ArchLinux. I tried many but besides Debian, Arch is the only one I really enjoyed toying with. Haven't used Arch on serious production system, but it appears that other people do. Gentoo is nice (and keeps you busy/entertained) until it blows up on you. Just my 0.02 as a long time FreeBSD user. The linux I used most was Debian but that was long ago before I landed at BSD. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hardware question
On Mar 1, 2007, at 10:38 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: jekillen wrote: On Mar 1, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: jekillen wrote: Hello; I have built a machine with ASUS M2N32 WS pro motherboard. It has dual network interface ports that are Marvell interfaces. I understand that FreeBSD does not yet support Marvell as of v6.2. I did get a reference to a source for the driver source and instructions to compile and install. But my short term solution was to get Intel nics that fit in PCIe lane one slots. As fate would have it one of the slots is situated too close to some copper vain heat dissipation attachments, so the second interface card will not fit in the slot for the obstruction. So, my question is simple: Can I use a network interface card made for a PCIe lane one slot in a PCIe lane 16 slot and expect it to work? By way of explanation: I need to interfaces because I am using this machine as a web server and I want one public ip address assigned to it and one private ip address assigned to it also. I have all but http and dns blocked from the outside. I use ssh and ftp to post content to the machine on the inside network. Thanks, not tearing my hair just yet Jeff K Maybe. Read this document: http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/3540. -Garrett Thanks, in my flustered state of mind I just poked out this message and then decided to follow advices I have gotten in the past, ask Google. I came up with a Wikipedia article that was positive. I also decided to look back at the specs listed on the Tiger Direct site where I got the interface cards and there it was, pretty plain. There is still a problem. One of the cards is initializing and the other is not. I have not determined which one is not. But the punch line is that the one that does show up shows up with status no carrier in ifconfig. I looked back the the FreeBSD site, at hardware notes for v6.2 and it appears that that card specifically, is not listed as supported. 82572 is listed as supported by the em driver, but Intel® 82572EI or Intel® 82572GI Gigabit Controller is not listed specifically, Well that is another $70+ not well enough spent. thanks for the response. Jeff K There's always -current or an RMA. Weird though... I didn't think that the slot size was large enough though for a PCIx card slot. Interesting... There is more, I had one card in the secondary x16 slot and one card in the usable x1 slot. I noticed that in the above situation, the fwe inteface was still configured. I took the card from the secondary x16 slot and put it in the primary x16 slot, Booted up and the em0 interface came up. I shut down the fwe interface and was able to ping the em0 interface. I moved the card from the usable x1 slot and moved it to the secondary x16 slot. Now both cards show up as up and running but I cannot ping the em1 interface. I went into rc.conf and took out the fwe configuration line. It still shows up in ifconfig listed between em0 and em1. I am suspecting that this interface is somehow interfering with the em1 interface. So progress is happening but I am weary of the sleuthing I have to do to get things working. At least I do have one enet connection to the machine, now. Jeff K ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: COPYING DATA TO NTFS
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 01:13:21AM +0100, Marco Hafke wrote: Did you read the manpage of mount_ntfs? Have a look to the writing section: There is limited writing ability. Limitations: file must be nonresident and must not contain any sparces (uninitialized areas); compressed files are also not supported. The file name must not contain multibyte characters. Writing on NTFS with FreeBSd is a bad idea. You should switch to FAT if you need to exchange files between this to systems. Yes. That seems to be the current status. What I do on my dual boot is make an extra slice that if FAT32 that I can use to write back and forth between the FreeBSD and MSwin system. So, I end up using up three slices for a dual boot NTFS, FAT32 and FreeBSD. The FAT32 doesn't have to be terribly large, a couple of GBytes does it for me. jerry Greets Marco Parker Brown schrieb: Using the FreeBSD booter to manage both Windoz XP and FreeBSD 6.1 on the same SCSI drive. Under FreeBSD I've got XP mounted, and I've been able to examine the XP directories, but when I try to copy data or the contents of directories from FreeBSD to XP. Usingcp -R format, nothing copies, and I get error messages that the target files don't exist. Is FreeBSD not capable of copying to NTFS? Please help! Parker Brown ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Users unable to write to mounted FAT32 partition
Chris, A mod of your suggestion did the trick. I was unable to finally chown Michael /mydos and then change permissions using chmod. Seems pretty simple but kinda strange that as root I could not change the permissions. Thanks to you and Jerry for all the help! Michael G. Chris Hill wrote: On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Michael G. wrote: Owner of /mydos is root and Group is wheel. User has rwx while Group and Other only have r-x Well, there it is. I think users who want to write to this filesystem need to have write permission on the mountpoint. How about creating a group, perhaps users, of which all users are members, then chown root:users /mydos, then chmod 775 /mydos Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:14:14PM -0600, Michael G. wrote: OK, I've scoured the archives for an answer with no results. I'm sharing a FAT32 partition between XP and 6.2 Release. The problem is I can mount the drive but only root can write to it (users can just read). I have the following in fstab: /dev/asd42/mydosmsdosfs rw 0 0 I've tried adding the -u or -g option with no luck. I understand that since FAT has no inherent permissions chmod has no effect either (tried it just to be sure) so it must be set from fstab. Any help? What are the owner and permissions on the mount point (/mydos)? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006
On Friday 02 March 2007 11:24 am, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Well, I skip'd reporting last month, like anyone missed it, right? Well, last month, and this month, have been seen ~10% increases in first of month numbers, so its still growing ... Thanks Marc! I noticed and I missed it ;-) -matt -- Matt Olander CTO, iXsystems - Servers for Open Source http://www.iXsystems.com Public Relations, The FreeBSD Projecthttp://www.FreeBSD.org BSD on the Desktop!http://www.pcbsd.org Phone: (408)943-4100 ext. 113Fax: (408)943-4101 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hauppauge PVR 150 problem loading modules
After being unable to get the WinTV-Radio work, I replaced it with a PVR-150. I followed the instructions here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2006-November/005351.html attempting to get the PVR 150 I just picked up working. However, after loading the modules as described in the output of the pvrxxx port, and the message listed, no new devices showed up. I checked /var/log/messages and go this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21:28:36 (0) ~ cat /var/log/messages | grep cxm Mar 2 20:47:11 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/local/bin/emacs work/modules/cxm/cxm/fbsd-compat.c Mar 2 20:49:05 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/local/bin/emacs work/modules/cxm/cxm/fbsd-compat.c Mar 2 21:27:50 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/home/sjss ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/kldload cxm_iic Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/home/sjss ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/kldload cxm Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm0: Conexant iTVC16 MPEG Coder mem 0xc000-0xc3ff irq 16 at device 6.0 on pci5 Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm_iic0: Conexant iTVC15 / iTVC16 I2C controller on cxm0 Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: iicbb0: I2C bit-banging driver on cxm_iic0 Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm0: unknown tuner code 0x67 Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm0: could not initialize tuner Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm_iic0: detached Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: device_attach: cxm0 attach returned 6 So it's safe to say I have an unknown tuner on this card, what would my next step from here be? Thank you, -Jim Stapleton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hauppauge PVR 150 problem loading modules
I appologize -questions, disregard this, it was supposed to go to multimedia. On 3/3/07, Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After being unable to get the WinTV-Radio work, I replaced it with a PVR-150. I followed the instructions here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-multimedia/2006-November/005351.html attempting to get the PVR 150 I just picked up working. However, after loading the modules as described in the output of the pvrxxx port, and the message listed, no new devices showed up. I checked /var/log/messages and go this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21:28:36 (0) ~ cat /var/log/messages | grep cxm Mar 2 20:47:11 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/local/bin/emacs work/modules/cxm/cxm/fbsd-compat.c Mar 2 20:49:05 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/usr/ports/multimedia/pvrxxx ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/local/bin/emacs work/modules/cxm/cxm/fbsd-compat.c Mar 2 21:27:50 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/home/sjss ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/kldload cxm_iic Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond sudo: sjss : TTY=ttyp1 ; PWD=/home/sjss ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/sbin/kldload cxm Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm0: Conexant iTVC16 MPEG Coder mem 0xc000-0xc3ff irq 16 at device 6.0 on pci5 Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm_iic0: Conexant iTVC15 / iTVC16 I2C controller on cxm0 Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: iicbb0: I2C bit-banging driver on cxm_iic0 Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm0: unknown tuner code 0x67 Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm0: could not initialize tuner Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: cxm_iic0: detached Mar 2 21:27:53 elrond kernel: device_attach: cxm0 attach returned 6 So it's safe to say I have an unknown tuner on this card, what would my next step from here be? Thank you, -Jim Stapleton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Firefox only runs as root--help!
This is a resend of something i sent to the freebsd-gnome list a few days ago, but there wer no answers and i think its a real problem, so i hope no one minds. I have a new install of FreeBSD 6.2, and installed Gnome 2.16 and other things, including Firefox 2.0, from Ports. Firefox only runs as root. Every time. I Googled and saw that in an early version there was a problem that it had to be run the _first_ time as root but after that it was OK, but thats not the problem here--it ONLY runs as root all the time. If I type firefox on the command line it just immediately returns to the command line, no error messages of any sort, nothing in /var/log/messages. When run as root it seems to be fine. The binary has execute permissions for everyone. What do i need to be doing? Thanks! Jen - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats report for Mar 1st, 2006
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Depends if you are looking for 'fast and easy' numbers. or long term ones ... the project goal is long term numbers ... The problem is that right now, everything is word of mouth, except in the case of PC-BSD, and, I believe, DragonflyBSD ... someone, at one point, had suggested adding a prompt to sysinstall asking if ppl wanted to participate, and the response I heard was that someone basically needed to submit a patch ... anyone here know enough about sysinstall to do so? Not to make it an 'opt-out' sort of thing, but opt-in with some sort of visibility other then my posting these stats once a month - --On Friday, March 02, 2007 15:00:31 -0600 Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, March 2, 2007 13:24, Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Well, I skip'd reporting last month, like anyone missed it, right? I did :) Well, last month, and this month, have been seen ~10% increases in first of month numbers, so its still growing ... The numbers are still so low that I question if the project's goal will be realized. Is it too early to extrapolate what the real numbers may be? i.e., if we've got 5000 FreeBSD hosts, and we know about 1 in 50 register, then there are probably 250,000 hosts in the wild? -- Regards, Doug - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFF6OGc4QvfyHIvDvMRAuHHAJ9rIA5EK/dhg7QdylEcJH7lpARBUwCZATaP VDg2BaHcd1UdM03/W7/6jH0= =QLgR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Re: Firefox only runs as root--help!
And i can't even spell freebsd.org right. Not my day. Jen - Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now.---BeginMessage--- Jeremy Gransden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/2/07, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a resend of something i sent to the freebsd-gnome list a few days ago, but there wer no answers and i think its a real problem, so i hope no one minds. I have a new install of FreeBSD 6.2, and installed Gnome 2.16 and other things, including Firefox 2.0, from Ports. Firefox only runs as root. Every time. I Googled and saw that in an early version there was a problem that it had to be run the _first_ time as root but after that it was OK, but thats not the problem here--it ONLY runs as root all the time. If I type firefox on the command line it just immediately returns to the command line, no error messages of any sort, nothing in /var/log/messages. When run as root it seems to be fine. The binary has execute permissions for everyone. What do i need to be doing? Thanks! Jen Hi Jen, what are the permissions on .mozilla in your home directory. jeremy Oh, g#d... /me hangs head in shame and embarrassment. Thank you. So sorry to bother the list with this. I thought i had been clever to check the permissions on the binary :-( Thank you Jeremy! Jen _ It's here! Your new message! Get [2]new email alerts with the free [3]Yahoo! Toolbar. References 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49938/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ 3. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49938/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ---End Message--- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 library question..
My output to your commands is identical to yours in that it was found, and is the same open-motif version. :( :( On 3/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/03/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Ive done a few searches, and installing open-motif seemed to be the right answer, but isnt getting me anywhere. Indeed, % find /usr/X11R6/ -type f -iname *libxm* . . . /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 . . . % grep -r libXm /var/db/pkg/ . . . /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.a /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so.3 . . . % ldconfig -r | grep libXm . . . 127:-lXm.3 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 . . . You may need to run ldconfig -R (or ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib if /usr/X11R6/lib somehow did not get in the hints file). Alternatively, you may have an older version of open-motif, which means you need to upgrade it. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 library question..
For kicks I copied to to /usr/lib. NEW error.. error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libXm.so.3: ELF file OS ABI invalid On 3/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/03/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Ive done a few searches, and installing open-motif seemed to be the right answer, but isnt getting me anywhere. Indeed, % find /usr/X11R6/ -type f -iname *libxm* . . . /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 . . . % grep -r libXm /var/db/pkg/ . . . /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.a /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so.3 . . . % ldconfig -r | grep libXm . . . 127:-lXm.3 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 . . . You may need to run ldconfig -R (or ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib if /usr/X11R6/lib somehow did not get in the hints file). Alternatively, you may have an older version of open-motif, which means you need to upgrade it. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox only runs as root--help!
--- Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a resend of something i sent to the freebsd-gnome list a few days ago, but there wer no answers and i think its a real problem, so i hope no one minds. I have a new install of FreeBSD 6.2, and installed Gnome 2.16 and other things, including Firefox 2.0, from Ports. Firefox only runs as root. Every time. I Googled and saw that in an early version there was a problem that it had to be run the _first_ time as root but after that it was OK, but thats not the problem here--it ONLY runs as root all the time. If I type firefox on the command line it just immediately returns to the command line, no error messages of any sort, nothing in /var/log/messages. When run as root it seems to be fine. The binary has execute permissions for everyone. What do i need to be doing? Thanks! Jen - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] What happens if you type firefox on the command line as a normal user? Paulette McGee Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital Nation Radio Show
My name is Josh Smith, I am the producer for the Digital Nation, radio show, based out of Orlando, Fl. Digital Nation, is about everything electronic and I would like to know some things about FreeBSD. Does a drive need to be partitioned to run it? Can it run on a partitioned drive, while the other portion runs Windows or Mac OSX? How secure is it? What kind of computer will ideally run it? Ups and downs? Thank you, Josh Smith ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (S)ATA performance in FBSD 6.2/7.0
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Brooks Davis wrote: Also, you should time the actual copy and do the math to verify that vmstat is actually producing valid results. It's possible there's a bug in vmstat or the underlying statistics it uses. There is certainly a bug in the underlying statistics. For ATA disks, at least with the ata driver, the maximum transfer size in DMA mode is 64K, so any reports of a block size of 128K for SATA disks are wrong. The block size of 128K reported by vmstat is actually a virtual size. For most or types of disks, the GEOM layer virtualizes the physical maximum size MAXPHYS = 128K so that layers above GEOM including statistics gathering and file systems cannot see the physical size. For writing large files, this normally confuses ffs and vfs clustering into producing contiguous writes of 128K. This is good for efficiency, but it is not what the hardware sees or what you want for statistics. The contiguous writes of 128K get split up into 2 sequential writes of 64K. However, 64K is more than large enough for efficiency, so the bug in the underlying statistics doesn't matter, at least if vmstat reports only 128K blocks. If it reported 64K-blocks then you would have to worry about the contiguous block sizes being a mixture of 128K and much smaller blocks, with the much smaller blocks (actually, more the seeks across gaps to get to the smaller blocks) being very inefficient. Bruce ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where can I get a nVidia driver for FBSD amd64
Hi folks, FreeBSD 6.2-amd64 I have been searching around for nVidia drvier without result. X window can't work properly on this box. However I'm not alone. Please visit following sites http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41545page=15 and http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=82203 The problem existed since 11-28-04, needing a nVidia driver for amd64 FreeBSD. If you want to run amd64 FreeBSD please stay away with components running nVidia chipsets. Otherwise you will run into my situation as well as other folks on above sites. B.R. Stephen Liu Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
