VMWare Tools for FreeBSD

2008-03-16 Thread Terry Sposato
Hi,

 

Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port
vmware-tools to FreeBSD.

As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are
being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our FreeBSD servers
follow as well.

 

It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to
FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another reason? Not
being a developer myself was just wondering if this has been tackled and if
it is being incorporated somewhere in the future?

 

Regards,

 

Terry

 

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VMWare Tools for FreeBSD

2008-03-16 Thread Terry Sposato
Hi,

 

Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port
vmware-tools to FreeBSD.

As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are
being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our FreeBSD servers
follow as well.

 

It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to
FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another reason? Not
being a developer myself was just wondering if this has been tackled and if
it is being incorporated somewhere in the future?

 

Regards,

 

Terry

 

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Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD?

2008-03-16 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa

Hi,

surfing the internet I a page describing some fancy Java 
based CMS's:


http://java-source.net/open-source/content-managment-systems

Does anyone have any experience with them on FreeBSD, do they 
work?


(Please no flames about the advantages of PHP or Python, I am 
just looking for a starting point for some testing :) )


Greetings,

Uli.

-
Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Wuppertal
Germany
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RE: email pop3 question

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Banning
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:49 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: email pop3 question


 I am using dovecot email on my server - Users can connect via
 IMAP or POP3.

 I have a user who is using pop3 but not removing the email from the
 server - so the email stays on the server, -and- it is collecting on their
 computer - as the emails build up, will there be a problem with this?

 For IMAP it stays on the server, so I assume the server will not
 be presented
 with any problem - but will the user suffer any problem eventually?

It depends on a lot of variables.

For example, I have a 64-bit mailserver running uw-imapd.  I have
a 500MB mailbox with around 16,000 e-mail messages in it.  When I
connect with Outlook, it takes about a minute for the server and
client to sync with each other.  Beyond that, it's not even noticable.

However, some of the webmail clients do have a lot of problems
with this large of a mailbox.

With POP3 you start having problems with more than a couple hundred
messages in the inbox.

Ted

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RE: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD?

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Ulrich
 Kruppa
 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:05 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 surfing the internet I a page describing some fancy Java 
 based CMS's:
 
 http://java-source.net/open-source/content-managment-systems
 
 Does anyone have any experience with them on FreeBSD, do they 
 work?

Java is write-once, run anywhere.  As long as they run under the
JDK that has been ported to FreeBSD then there's no problems.

I know this is so because Sun Microsystems says so in their
literature about Java.  Sun says that a language that can only
run on 1 specific platform is no good, that is the entire point
of why they wrote Java, according to Sun.

 
 (Please no flames about the advantages of PHP or Python, 

Of course.  After all, Sun Microsystems says that Java is
better than PHP or Python and because Sun says so it must
be true.

Ted
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RE: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Terry Sposato
 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 10:52 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD
 
 
 Hi,
 
  
 
 Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port
 vmware-tools to FreeBSD.
 
 As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are
 being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our 
 FreeBSD servers
 follow as well.
 
  
 
 It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to
 FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another 
 reason? Not
 being a developer myself was just wondering if this has been 
 tackled and if
 it is being incorporated somewhere in the future?
 

Are you asking if FreeBSD can be made to run the ESX software so that
a FreeBSD server can virtualize multiple systems, or are you asking
if an ESX server can create a virtual machine that FreeBSD can run in?

If your using the commercial ESX product I would assume you would be
using it on it's own bare metal product incarnation which I think
uses a hacked-up version of Linux (without a compiler or any other
normal Linux tools).  In that case I do not see why you would have
a problem running multiple FreeBSD virtual servers on the ESX
server.

Ted
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Network identity for sending mail.

2008-03-16 Thread Malcolm Kay
The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent
directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through
an ISP mail service. I can certainly successfully send mail directly
via sendmail but as I don't have a static IP address or a registered
name the (bogus?) name used is not able to be validated. So when I send-pr
I get a returned mail message which includes the following:

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(reason: 450 4.7.1 mail.whatnot.on.net: Helo command rejected: Host not 
found)

It seems most destinations are not so pedantic and accept the (bogus) name.  

Now if I set up sendmail with some registered name in place of 
mail.whatnot.on.net
then I believe the message will be accepted.

So the question is would it be legitimate or fraudulent to set sendmail to work 
with
the name of my ISP's mail server in the Helo command -- after all this is the 
rout that 
will be followed by any responses.

Is there a better way around the difficulty.

Views please

Malcolm Kay  
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Re: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD?

2008-03-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Saturday, March 15, 2008 a las 11:43:04PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt 
escribió:

...
 Java is write-once, run anywhere.  As long as they run under the
 JDK that has been ported to FreeBSD then there's no problems.
 
 I know this is so because Sun Microsystems says so in their
 literature about Java.  Sun says that a language that can only
 run on 1 specific platform is no good, that is the entire point
 of why they wrote Java, according to Sun.

You can also write stuff in Java which only runs on one specific
platform, on Windows, because for example you make references to objects
in the file system as 'help.htm' while in real the file name is
'Help.htm', or you use specific DLL's for accessing devices which are only
available on Windows :-(

matthias
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RE: Superuser password lost

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Moran
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:15 PM
 To: freebsd-questions
 Subject: Re: Superuser password lost
 
 
 
 Apparently I miscommunicated.  My point was that the OP's message used
 the term superuser in an ambiguous way. (i.e. the way I mentioned).
 To me, it wasn't clear what it was asking for, and thus sending the OP
 to the PC-BSD community (where folks are probably familiar to the
 GUI widget he's dealing with) seemed the best thing to do.
 

Historically on all UNIXes superuser = the root user

The problem as I see it is that recently Apple (probably stole
this idea from someone else) has introduced ambiguity into the
term with the creation of what they call the owner account
into MacOS X.  With regular MacOS X there's some things that an
ordinary user can do, but when an ordinary user tries to do
some other things, MacOS X flashes up a dialog asking for the
owners password.  However, even if you su to root, there's still
things that the system will not let you do which is insane
because real UNIX will happily allow the root user to rm -r /
if desired.  Once more, proving that MacOS X is nothing more
than UNIX-on-training-wheels, and reaffirming what Apple's
historic view of it's customers really is (ie: dumb and dumber)

Microsoft also introduced ambiguity into the concept, although
to their credit, they scruplously avoided use of the term
superuser or root.  Under Microsoft operating systems,
there's ordinary users and there's administrators and you 
can have multiple administrators, which isn't possible in
UNIX - thus a MS administrator  a UNIX superuser.

I would suspect PC-BSD has copied the Apple nonsense and has
created this mutated account that's not quite a real superuser
account, and not quite a regular user account.

Ted
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Re: Network identity for sending mail.

2008-03-16 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote:
 The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent
 directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through
 an ISP mail service.

Does it not work if you configure sendmail to send via your ISP's mail
server?

 I can certainly successfully send mail directly
 via sendmail but as I don't have a static IP address or a registered
 name the (bogus?) name used is not able to be validated. So when I send-pr
 I get a returned mail message which includes the following:
 
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (reason: 450 4.7.1 mail.whatnot.on.net: Helo command rejected: Host not 
 found)
 
 It seems most destinations are not so pedantic and accept the (bogus) name.  
 
 Now if I set up sendmail with some registered name in place of 
 mail.whatnot.on.net
 then I believe the message will be accepted.

Perhaps, but most likely whatever name you supply will have to resolve to
the same IP it was sent from for it to be accepted.

 
 So the question is would it be legitimate or fraudulent to set sendmail to 
 work with
 the name of my ISP's mail server in the Helo command -- after all this is the 
 rout that 
 will be followed by any responses.
 
 Is there a better way around the difficulty.

You could also use dynamic DNS (see e.g. www.dyndns.org) to get a real
hostname that sendmail (and other services) can use.




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RE: Best practice: sendmail and SMTP auth

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Poland
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Best practice: sendmail and SMTP auth
 
 
 Hello,
 
 Not sure if this is the most appropriate place for this question, but
 since all my servers are FreeBSD 6.x/7.x, I'll give it a go...
 
 I am considering setting up SMTP auth on a number of sendmail
 instances that I control.  After much googling and reading, it is not
 clear to me that a server with SMTP auth configured/enabled can relay
 mail in both auth and non-auth modes.
 

Some of the explanations posted have been Rube Goldberg in the
extreme, greatly complicating what should have been a very simple
response.

A standard FreeBSD server determines relaying through use of the
access.db file, as you probably already are aware.

If you add in SMTP-auth then the ONLY change is that any client
that authenticates in, is exempted from checking the access.db
file - by default, they are allowed to relay.

It is not necessary to turn on an encrypted channel for SMTP-auth.
In fact, the most popular mail clients under Windows - Outlook,
only support NTLM encryption on authentication which REQUIRES
that the password be in cleartext on the mailserver.  OR, you 
can use SSL encryption for Outlook - however it will require a
(costly) commerically-rooted certificate on the server to do SSL
or your mail clients won't encrypt without a lot of nasty mucking
around on the user's side to install a self-signed root cert in their
clients.

As for 587, by default sendmail will allow auth on either port 25
or 587 and will allow non-encrypted auth on port 587.

The fact of the matter is that the most secure way of running
a production setup is to use a completely separate mailserver
for AUTH-smtp and to use DIFFERENT userID's/passwords on that server
than on the primary mailserver.  That way spammers that discover
the users e-mail address (which for most ISP's is the same as
the userID account) cannot launch dictionary attacks against the
SMTP-auth server.  And, attackers that sniff a cleartext password
on the SMTP-auth channel cannot use that userID 
to spam the mailserver.

Ted
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RE: USB printer

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Robey
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:24 AM
 To: Predrag Punosevac
 Cc: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org; Gligor Lucian
 Subject: Re: USB printer
 
 
 Cups on FreeBSD is still woefully underdocumented, relying 100% on others
 sites, when the cups installation has been changed (somewhat) to 
 agree with
 hier(7).  I agree that needed to be done, and would have been complaining
 if it hadn't,  but then there should have been some small notes detailing
 how to install a local driver.  

The problem here is that CUPS is really mostly useful if your
using Gnome for your desktop, because there's a lot of GUI
configuration software that is written for that desktop that
makes CUPS configuration a snap.  (and installing foomatic
drivers and the like)

If your not a right-clicker or an i-book flipper than it's
understandable you would wonder why there's so much attention
paid to CUPS for FreeBSD since it does nothing for the usual
command line junkie.

Ted
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RE: FreeBSD 6.2-REL, system lockup, recovers when keyboard pressed

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Sorry for the top post.

Over the year's I've had a few boxes that did stuff like this.

Putting the same software packages on a different PC that had a
different motherboard and cards in it resulted in no lockups.

Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dale Shaw
 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 6:52 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.2-REL, system lockup, recovers when keyboard
 pressed


 Hi again all,

 Just an update on my problem (see below).

 I upgraded the box to 6.3-REL and the problem persisted -- exactly the
 same behaviour.

 I've narrowed the problem down to nfdump though -- without the NetFlow
 collectors (nfcapd) running, the box is rock solid.

 If anyone out there happens to have seen this problem (with nfdump and
 friends) before, or has some general advice for troubleshooting
 something like this (I suspect some system resource tuning may be
 required), please drop me a line.

 In the meantime, I'll head on over to the nfdump list.

 cheers,
 Dale

   On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Kris Kennaway
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Dale Shaw wrote:
  Hi all,
 
   [...]
  I have a vanilla 6.2-RELEASE system running a bunch of network
  management type tools like RANCID, nfcapd, cacti and so on.
 
  After a few days of normal operation, the system (locked away in a
  data centre) falls off the network. Can't SSH to it,
 can't ping it. No
  ARP -- gone! I have no OOB access to this machine (it's a test
  box/play pen).
   
 I have a vague memory of something like this but cannot point to a
 specific commit that resolved it.
   
 Kris
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Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD

2008-03-16 Thread Peter Boosten


Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

Are you asking if FreeBSD can be made to run the ESX software so that
a FreeBSD server can virtualize multiple systems, or are you asking
if an ESX server can create a virtual machine that FreeBSD can run in?

If your using the commercial ESX product I would assume you would be
using it on it's own bare metal product incarnation which I think
uses a hacked-up version of Linux (without a compiler or any other
normal Linux tools).  In that case I do not see why you would have
a problem running multiple FreeBSD virtual servers on the ESX
server.



That's not what OP is asking. He wants to run FreeBSD as VM in ESX.
There's currently no support from VMWare for FreeBSD, but it runs anyway.

Peter

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Bus error: 10 (core dumped) on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-03-16 Thread Vladimir Ch.
After upgrading to FreeBSD 7.0 some of the programs stopped working: when
trying to launch emacs or sbcl I am getting Bus error: 10.
Searching the internet revealed that this could be hardware problem - but
6.2, 6.3 ran the same box before without any errors. Windows XP also works
on the same computer.
I use GENERIC kernel.
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RE: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD?

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Matthias Apitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:58 PM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: Peter Ulrich Kruppa; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD?


 You can also write stuff in Java which only runs on one specific
 platform, on Windows, because for example you make references to objects
 in the file system as 'help.htm' while in real the file name is
 'Help.htm', or you use specific DLL's for accessing devices which are only
 available on Windows :-(


But if your accessing a specific DLL then your no longer Java
and thus Sun's marketing isn't lying... it's just bad programming
so the fault isn't Java, it's the programmer ;-)

(have we had enough fun with this yet)

Ted

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kldload: unexpected relocation type 10

2008-03-16 Thread Yehonatan Yossef

I'm getting tons of this message when loading my module:

kldload: unexpected relocation type 10

I'm using a simple Makefile including a slightly modified bsd.kmod.mk
(I've removed the -strip-debug flag)
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Re: Network identity for sending mail.

2008-03-16 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2008-03-16 18:17, Malcolm Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent
 directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through
 an ISP mail service. I can certainly successfully send mail directly
 via sendmail but as I don't have a static IP address or a registered
 name the (bogus?) name used is not able to be validated. So when I send-pr
 I get a returned mail message which includes the following:

- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (reason: 450 4.7.1 mail.whatnot.on.net: Helo command rejected: Host not 
 found)

 It seems most destinations are not so pedantic and accept the (bogus) name.

 Now if I set up sendmail with some registered name in place of
 mail.whatnot.on.net then I believe the message will be accepted.

The domain on.net is a valid domain, registered already by:

: Internode Systems Pty Ltd
:PO Box 284
:Rundle Mall, South Australia 5000
:AU
:
:Domain Name: ON.NET

If you don't own the domain, then it's not surprising that the hostname
doesn't exist.

You still have a few options:

  (1) Use masquerading, to rewrite your outgoing email address to one
  that is valid.  My Sendmail installation rewrites `keramida' to
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]', which is a valid address.

  (2) Use your ISP's mail gateway.  It looks like you are trying to post
  *directly* to the mail servers of FreeBSD.org from an address
  which doesn't resolve correctly.  This is a common spammer trick,
  so you are blocked if you do that :/

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RE: ndis0 no link on 6.3-RELEASE

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Glen Barber
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:56 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: ndis0 no link on 6.3-RELEASE
 
 
 Hello everyone.  
 
 First off, sorry for the double post, but I'm not 100% certain at 
 where this 
 post belongs.  
 
 I've found via Google many problems with ndis0 and failure to 
 find a link in 
 6.3-RELEASE, without resolution.  So here's my setup.
 
 I'm using a Broadcom 4318 chipset, with drivers created from 
 ndisgen.  If you 
 need more specific information on the drivers, I'll be more than happy to 
 provide information, however I believe it to be irrelevant at 
 this moment, as 
 I have used more than one driver version, with the same results.  
 
 In 6.3-RC1 and below (tested in 6.2-RELEASE, and all -STABLE releases in 
 between), my ndis0 adapter works as exptected, using WPA and 
 DHCP.  I can't 
 pinpoint exaclty what changed (I've check in /usr/src/UPDATING, 
 as it seemed 
 to be most relevant), with no avail to finding anything regarding 
 either wpa 
 or dhclient.  
 
 Since an upgrade to 6.3-RELEASE (both, via csup and a fresh 
 install off of 
 cd), I generate my ndis module, create an /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf, 
 leaving /etc/dhclient as default, and am prompted with:
 ndis0: no link.. giving up
 
 Upon 'kldunload bcmwl5.ko; kldload bcmwl5.ko', my ndis0 card 
 looses all WPA 
 capabilities.  
 
 What seems to me to be the interesting part is this:
 If I 'csup' to 6.3-RELEASE from -RC1, and build a kernel, the 
 problem does not 
 occur -- as long as I do not 'buildworld'.  However, once I 'buildworld; 
 installworld', I am faced with the same problems as if I had installed 
 6.3-RELEASE from cd.  
 
 I would really like to figure out what is causing this (both for 
 myself, and 
 the other affected ndis0 victims), but I'm not sure where to look -- 
 dhclient, wpa_supplicant or ndis itself.  Any other information I could 
 provide, please let me know.  
 

Hi Glen,

  I just setup my laptop with a wireless card a couple weeks
ago and FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE.  (it's an older Toshiba)

  I went through a total of 5 different wireless cards before
I found one that I was able to get working ndis drivers from
ndisgen.  Fortunately there's a used computer place near here
(freegeek.org) that had a box of pcmcia wireless cards of all
different makes and models, which kindly allowed me to plunk
down my laptop  (which dual-boots between Windows 98 and FreeBSD)
and they have wireless.  So I would pick a card out of their bin,
boot into Windows, download the Windows driver, make sure the
card worked under Windows, then boot into FreeBSD and mount
the Windows partition, copy over the Windows driver and inf
file to the FreeBSD side, run ndisgen and then try loading the
driver.

With some cards, the driver wouldn't even activate the card.
With other cards, the driver would allow me to list the wireless
nodes then panic the system when I tried associating.

The card that did work was a Realtek-based card.  And, it did
not work with the most current Windows drivers from the Realtek
website, it worked with the Windows drivers that were from a couple
years ago.  (I found this out quite by accident)

Fortunately, they DID also have a number of the Wavelan
cards - these are supported natively with the wi0 driver -
that worked out of the box.  Those cards are only 802.11b
though so I kept at it with ndisgen and the newer cards.

The interesting thing is that the original wireless card I
had in the Toshiba - a Texas Instruments-based chipset model -
never really quite worked properly in the Toshiba under Windows.
I put it into a different laptop I owned - a Thinkpad, and
it worked great in that.

Unfortunately, in your case, nothing has changed with ndisgen
since 2006 (see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/ndiscvt/ )
so it's not that, it's something else in the system that changed.

Start with the basics.  Copy your bcmwl5.ko into /boot/modules
then in loader.conf put bcmw15_load=YES and reboot the system,
check dmesg, and see if it's even loading

Next put in /etc/rc.conf  ifconfig_ndis0=inet 192.168.1.1 ssid myssid
and see if it even comes up at all and you can ping out (obviously
you will have to temporairly turn off wpa on your wireless node,
set the correct ssid, and set the correct IP address to hard-code an
IP address)

If that doesen't work, regen the bcmw15.ko file using the old
method:

# cp foo.sys foo.inf /sys/modules/if_ndis
# cd /sys/modules/ndis
# make; make load
# cd /sys/modules/if_ndis
# ndiscvt -i foo.inf -s foo.sys -o ndis_driver_data.h
# make; make load

You need to isolate the problem to see if the driver is simply
just not working at all under 6.3, or if it is working, but it's
a scripting or turnup out of sequence error.  And you need to
see if wpa has anything to do with it.


Ted


RE: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Boosten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 12:29 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: Terry Sposato; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD
 
 
 
 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  Are you asking if FreeBSD can be made to run the ESX software so that
  a FreeBSD server can virtualize multiple systems, or are you asking
  if an ESX server can create a virtual machine that FreeBSD can run in?
  
  If your using the commercial ESX product I would assume you would be
  using it on it's own bare metal product incarnation which I think
  uses a hacked-up version of Linux (without a compiler or any other
  normal Linux tools).  In that case I do not see why you would have
  a problem running multiple FreeBSD virtual servers on the ESX
  server.
  
 
 That's not what OP is asking. He wants to run FreeBSD as VM in ESX.
 There's currently no support from VMWare for FreeBSD, but it runs anyway.
 

I figured that was what he was asking, but we should probably
hear from him to make sure that this is really what he was asking.

Unfortunately,
the original post was either from someone who didn't use English
as their native language, or they are paying for their Internet
connection by-the-byte and were trying to make the question as
short as possible, as a result, the entire meaning of the post
was lost.

Ted
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RE: Bus error: 10 (core dumped) on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-03-16 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vladimir Ch.
 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 12:51 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Bus error: 10 (core dumped) on FreeBSD 7.0


 After upgrading to FreeBSD 7.0 some of the programs stopped working: when
 trying to launch emacs or sbcl I am getting Bus error: 10.
 Searching the internet revealed that this could be hardware problem - but
 6.2, 6.3 ran the same box before without any errors. Windows XP also works
 on the same computer.
 I use GENERIC kernel.

Did you recompile every program on your system after you upgraded to
7.0 or did you just assume that the 6.3 binaries would run unmodified?

See:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html

...Updating Existing Systems
An upgrade of any existing system to FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE constitutes a major
version upgrade, so no matter which method you use to update an older system
you should reinstall any ports you have installed on the machine. This will
avoid binaries becoming linked to inconsistent sets of libraries when future
port upgrades rebuild one port but not others that link to it. This can be
done with:

# portupgrade -faP

after updating your system. Note some of the tools to help with this or the
instructions below for FreeBSD Update are not installed by default (e.g.
portupgrade, gpg, or similar tools like portmaster...

Ted

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RE: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD?

2008-03-16 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Ulrich
Kruppa
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 11:05 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Java based Content Management Systems on FreeBSD?


Hi,

surfing the internet I a page describing some fancy Java
based CMS's:

http://java-source.net/open-source/content-managment-systems

Does anyone have any experience with them on FreeBSD, do they
work?


Java is write-once, run anywhere.  As long as they run under the
JDK that has been ported to FreeBSD then there's no problems.

I know this is so because Sun Microsystems says so in their
literature about Java.  Sun says that a language that can only
run on 1 specific platform is no good, that is the entire point
of why they wrote Java, according to Sun.

I see - you mean I should test myself:

Jahia for example installs and works like a charm with 
diablo-jdk1.5.0 , but the drag-'n-drop and copy-'n-paste features 
- I would like to see - are commercial.


I think I will try another one.

Thanks for your help.

Uli.

-
Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Wuppertal
Germany
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Re: Compile error, kde related?

2008-03-16 Thread Leslie Jensen



Leslie Jensen skrev:


Mel skrev:

On Saturday 15 March 2008 18:10:00 Leslie Jensen wrote:

portupgrade -Rf x11-toolkits/qt33
If uic still does not show linked to libthr, I have no clue what causes
that on your system. I'd inspect /etc/libmap.conf, /etc/make.conf, the
config.log for qt33 and the final link command that produces the uic
binary.


I've tried to make a fresh instal of FreeBSD 7.0 and there is libthr 
linked as it should be. What I don't understand is that on the system 
where I have the problem I did a pkg_delete -a after it was upgraded to 
7.0, and manually deleted everything left in /usr/local before starting 
over with the ports.


Can I manually link uic to libthr and would it be a clean hack or?
/Leslie

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Re: Bus error: 10 (core dumped) on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-03-16 Thread Derek Ragona

At 03:51 AM 3/16/2008, Vladimir Ch. wrote:

After upgrading to FreeBSD 7.0 some of the programs stopped working: when
trying to launch emacs or sbcl I am getting Bus error: 10.
Searching the internet revealed that this could be hardware problem - but
6.2, 6.3 ran the same box before without any errors. Windows XP also works
on the same computer.
I use GENERIC kernel.


You need to rebuild your ports if you have not done so.  You will need to 
also rebuild any libraries the ports depend on as well.


-Derek

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Cant get system to 0% idle

2008-03-16 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
Hi,

I have 2 systems, Dual Xenon's, both bought at the same time (1
serial number away from each other). At one time both ran 5.3, and both
could get 0% idle ([EMAIL PROTECTED], 4 processes). I've upgraded one to 5.5,
and now find ever since then I can't get the system below about 19% idle.
(I've even used benchmarks/ubench). 

Short of the typical Upgrade to 7 which I can't do (And for 
those jokers out there, can't go to 6 either) Any ideas why this is
happening?

Thanks, Tuc
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Re: Cant get system to 0% idle

2008-03-16 Thread Kris Kennaway

Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:

Hi,

I have 2 systems, Dual Xenon's, both bought at the same time (1
serial number away from each other). At one time both ran 5.3, and both
could get 0% idle ([EMAIL PROTECTED], 4 processes). I've upgraded one to 5.5,
and now find ever since then I can't get the system below about 19% idle.
(I've even used benchmarks/ubench). 

	Short of the typical Upgrade to 7 which I can't do (And for 
those jokers out there, can't go to 6 either) Any ideas why this is

happening?


Because you're running FreeBSD 5?  Seriously.  SMP performance and 
FreeBSD 5.x don't belong together in the same sentence.  Even if you 
don't like that advice, it is true.


Kris
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Re: IPFW with user-ppp's NAT

2008-03-16 Thread Ian Smith
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:16:12 -0500 Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In the last episode (Mar 16), Razmig K said:
   With IPFW enabled in the kernel, I'd like to use the NAT functionality of 
   user-ppp instead of natd. Do I need the IPDIVERT option in the kernel and 
   the special arrangement of divert and skipto rules in the ruleset? Or, a 
   non-NATed ruleset (as demonstrated in handbook section 28.6.5.6) would 
   suffice?
  
   If divert rules are necessary, what argument do I need to pass to action 
   divert in place of natd?
  
  If you mean the nat enable yes option in ppp.conf, that is done
  completely within the user-ppp daemon (using the same libalias libarary
  that natd uses).  Since user-ppp creates its own tun# device, it can
  call the NAT functions as it processes packets to/from that device
  without needing IPFW divert rules.

True, though if you're running FreeBSD 7 you can instead use ipfw(8)'s
new in-kernel NAT, which uses the same libalias and semantics. 

Frankly I'm a bit surprised that this hasn't been more widely heralded,
as userland natd is often given as a reason to prefer other firewalls,
even in the handbook.  ('legacy', indeed :)

And while being frank .. the present ipfw section in the handbook needs
rewriting in large part.  It contains undue deprecation, misconceptions,
outdated information and some straight up errors, both of principle and
usage.  Using rc.firewall as a base example (modulo needing to permit
appropriate icmp traffic) and a fair study of ipfw(8) should yield a
better firewall, with or without NAT - certainly a more comprehensible
and flexible one - than the examples in that section.

Cheers, Ian

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Re: Network identity for sending mail.

2008-03-16 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:46 pm, Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote:
  The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent
  directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through
  an ISP mail service.
 
 Does it not work if you configure sendmail to send via your ISP's mail
 server?

Sounds good, but how?

 
  I can certainly successfully send mail directly
  via sendmail but as I don't have a static IP address or a registered
  name the (bogus?) name used is not able to be validated. So when I send-pr
  I get a returned mail message which includes the following:
  
 - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (reason: 450 4.7.1 mail.whatnot.on.net: Helo command rejected: Host 
  not found)
  
  It seems most destinations are not so pedantic and accept the (bogus) name. 
   
  
  Now if I set up sendmail with some registered name in place of 
  mail.whatnot.on.net
  then I believe the message will be accepted.
 
 Perhaps, but most likely whatever name you supply will have to resolve to
 the same IP it was sent from for it to be accepted.
 
  
  So the question is would it be legitimate or fraudulent to set sendmail to 
  work with
  the name of my ISP's mail server in the Helo command -- after all this is 
  the rout that 
  will be followed by any responses.
  
  Is there a better way around the difficulty.
 
 You could also use dynamic DNS (see e.g. www.dyndns.org) to get a real
 hostname that sendmail (and other services) can use.

Yes; somewhat cumbersome although it also gains some other advantages.

Thank you,
Malcolm
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Re: Network identity for sending mail.

2008-03-16 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:26:07AM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote:
 On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:46 pm, Erik Trulsson wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote:
   The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent
   directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through
   an ISP mail service.
  
  Does it not work if you configure sendmail to send via your ISP's mail
  server?
 
 Sounds good, but how?

I do not use sendmail myself, so I am not sure of all the details, but
go to /etc/mail/  and define SMART_HOST appropriately in the right .mc
file.
Read the Makefile there for information on how to rebuild things and which
files are used.

Googling for 'freebsd sendmail smart_host' should also provide useful
information.


 
  
   I can certainly successfully send mail directly
   via sendmail but as I don't have a static IP address or a registered
   name the (bogus?) name used is not able to be validated. So when I send-pr
   I get a returned mail message which includes the following:
   
  - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   (reason: 450 4.7.1 mail.whatnot.on.net: Helo command rejected: Host 
   not found)
   
   It seems most destinations are not so pedantic and accept the (bogus) 
   name.  
   
   Now if I set up sendmail with some registered name in place of 
   mail.whatnot.on.net
   then I believe the message will be accepted.
  
  Perhaps, but most likely whatever name you supply will have to resolve to
  the same IP it was sent from for it to be accepted.
  
   
   So the question is would it be legitimate or fraudulent to set sendmail 
   to work with
   the name of my ISP's mail server in the Helo command -- after all this is 
   the rout that 
   will be followed by any responses.
   
   Is there a better way around the difficulty.
  
  You could also use dynamic DNS (see e.g. www.dyndns.org) to get a real
  hostname that sendmail (and other services) can use.
 
 Yes; somewhat cumbersome although it also gains some other advantages.
 
 Thank you,
 Malcolm

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Re: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD

2008-03-16 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 05:52:27PM +1100, Terry Sposato wrote:

 Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port
 vmware-tools to FreeBSD.

I don't know if somebody is actually preparing an official port of
http://open-vm-tools.sourceforge.net/ but I don't think it's too
difficult to compile and run them on FreeBSD 7.0. I hope I'll find
the time to test this soon but I wouldn't be able to roll a port without
some help. :)

 As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are
 being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our FreeBSD servers
 follow as well.

If you're using FreeBSD 6.x, you can use the vmware-tools that come with
VMware server 1.04. I tested them with 6.2/amd64 and 6.3/amd64 and they
work fine (vmmemctl.ko and vmware-guestd), including VMotion.

 It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to
 FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another reason? Not

No, it's not a licensing issue, since vmware-tools are released as open
source now. I guess it's simply lack of interest and that there aren't
many ESX users who are using FreeBSD as a platform. FreeBSD is not an
enterprise system, you know... :-/

Uwe

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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread LtCdData
On Sunday 16 March 2008 00:09, C Thala wrote:
Like Javascript, with regards to Flash, what was once a nuisance has
more or less become a necessity.

I turned off JS on my browsers for several years and avoided most
popup/web issues that people had. Nowadays, I can leave it on because
Firefox plus some plugins do a good job of blocking most of the crap
and because it doesn't destabilize the browser like it once used to.

So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on
YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part,
I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the
mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within
the first 10 minutes of use.

So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of
Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop?
Caveats? Comments? Advice?

I see flash popping on this list over and over, and as yet I have not seen a 
solution that fully works. Yes I tried the wrappers, gnash etc. on native 
firefox and opera with limited success, however as others have also noted 
flash is now required, and as for myself, fully working flash 9 is also.
Linux firefox with the linux flash did improve the situation for me a great 
amount up to flash 7, but then again.. trip on to a bit of flash 9 content 
and it is crash again
I know this might not be the solution people might want, but for me at any 
rate it works, and works better than all the other flash solutions I have 
tried.
After a long time of putting up with crashing browsers and lack of access to 
flash content I need, I am now using firefox / opera with flash for window$ 
under WINE, and the only thing I am thinking is, why did I not do this 
sooner...

LtCdData

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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread LtCdData
On Sunday 16 March 2008 00:09, C Thala wrote:
Like Javascript, with regards to Flash, what was once a nuisance has
more or less become a necessity.

I turned off JS on my browsers for several years and avoided most
popup/web issues that people had. Nowadays, I can leave it on because
Firefox plus some plugins do a good job of blocking most of the crap
and because it doesn't destabilize the browser like it once used to.

So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on
YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part,
I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the
mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within
the first 10 minutes of use.

So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of
Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop?
Caveats? Comments? Advice?

I see flash popping on this list over and over, and as yet I have not seen a 
solution that fully works. Yes I tried the wrappers, gnash etc. on native 
firefox and opera with limited success, however as others have also noted 
flash is now required, and as for myself, fully working flash 9 is also.
Linux firefox with the linux flash did improve the situation for me a great 
amount up to flash 7, but then again.. trip on to a bit of flash 9 content 
and it is crash again
I know this might not be the solution people might want, but for me at any 
rate it works, and works better than all the other flash solutions I have 
tried.
After a long time of putting up with crashing browsers and lack of access to 
flash content I need, I am now using firefox / opera with flash for window$ 
under WINE, and the only thing I am thinking is, why did I not do this 
sooner...

LtCdData




  

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Re: IPFW with user-ppp's NAT

2008-03-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Frankly I'm a bit surprised that this hasn't been more widely heralded,
as userland natd is often given as a reason to prefer other firewalls,


what's wrong in userland natd?
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Re: IPFW with user-ppp's NAT

2008-03-16 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 04:37:18PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 Frankly I'm a bit surprised that this hasn't been more widely heralded,
 as userland natd is often given as a reason to prefer other firewalls,
 
 what's wrong in userland natd?

Performance.  With userland natd, every packet that passes through natd
must pass from kernel to userland (causing one context switch) and back
again (causing another context switch).  This will be slower and use more
CPU than doing it all inside the kernel, without any context switches.



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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 02:55:20PM +, LtCdData wrote:
 
 So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on
 YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part,
 I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the
 mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within
 the first 10 minutes of use.
 
 So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of
 Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop?
 Caveats? Comments? Advice?

For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and
mplayer to play them.

Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download videos
from several sites.
 
 I see flash popping on this list over and over, and as yet I have not seen a 
 solution that fully works. Yes I tried the wrappers, gnash etc. on native 
 firefox and opera with limited success, however as others have also noted 
 flash is now required, and as for myself, fully working flash 9 is
 also.

I for one am very glad to _not_ see all the annoying flash-based ads. 

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Re: HDD missing from sysinstall

2008-03-16 Thread Troels Kofoed Jacobsen
 When I put in my fbsd 6.3 or 7.0 install disk sysinstall is unable to
 detect any of the hard drives in my computer.
 
 This is includes SATA and IDE HDDs in varying orders.   BIOS is able
 to detect the the hard drives.   I Previously had fbsd 6.2 installed
 on them and the problem started when I upgraded the kernel to 6.3
 although I don't see my upgrades relevance as I have tried to
 reinstall from a clean disk since then.

I have the exact same problem on an Asus P5N-E sli board. I have two ide 
harddrives, two ide optical drives and one sata harddisk connected. After 
trying to boot FreeBSD 7.0, which gives me No disks found, i cannot boot in 
freebsd 6.2 or linux anymore. I have to reboot with the ide harddisks 
disconnected. And then erboot again (with drives reconnected) before my machine 
can boot again. (Then both freebsd 6.2 and linxu works again)

This is not a problem in the installer but in the kernel as i get the same 
result when upgrading (both to 7.0 and 8.0-current)

I thing thes is a very severe problem/bug/regression.. I dont dare to try 
FreeBSD on a laptop where i cannot disconnect the drives as easily.

dmesg from 6.2 attached. I cannot find a way to provide dmesg from 7.0 from the 
install cd (disk 1 -- i cannot mount livefs as optical drives are also not 
found)

Best Regards
Troels

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  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x6f6  Stepping = 6
  
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pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.1 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.2 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.3 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.4 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.5 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.6 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 0.7 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.0 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.1 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.2 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.3 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.4 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.5 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 1.6 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 2.0 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 2.1 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 2.2 (no driver attached)
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 3.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
pci1: display, VGA at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 5.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 6.0 on pci0
pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
pcib4: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 7.0 on pci0
pci4: ACPI PCI bus on pcib4
atapci0: JMicron JMB360 SATA300 controller port 
0xdf00-0xdf07,0xde00-0xde03,0xdd00-0xdd07,0xdc00-0xdc03,0xdb00-0xdb0f mem 
0xfd9fe000-0xfd9f irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci4
atapci0: AHCI Version 01.00 controller with 1 ports detected
ata2: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
pci0: memory, RAM at device 9.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 10.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 10.1 (no driver attached)
pci0: memory, RAM at device 10.2 (no driver attached)
ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfe02f000-0xfe02 at device 11.0 
on pci0
ohci0: 

Re: ndis0 no link on 6.3-RELEASE

2008-03-16 Thread Glen Barber
Ted Mittelstaedt said: 
 
   I just setup my laptop with a wireless card a couple weeks
 ago and FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE.  (it's an older Toshiba)
 
   I went through a total of 5 different wireless cards before
 I found one that I was able to get working ndis drivers from
 ndisgen.  Fortunately there's a used computer place near here
 (freegeek.org) that had a box of pcmcia wireless cards of all
 different makes and models, which kindly allowed me to plunk
 down my laptop  (which dual-boots between Windows 98 and FreeBSD)
 and they have wireless.  So I would pick a card out of their bin,
 boot into Windows, download the Windows driver, make sure the
 card worked under Windows, then boot into FreeBSD and mount
 the Windows partition, copy over the Windows driver and inf
 file to the FreeBSD side, run ndisgen and then try loading the
 driver.
 
 With some cards, the driver wouldn't even activate the card.
 With other cards, the driver would allow me to list the wireless
 nodes then panic the system when I tried associating.
 
 The card that did work was a Realtek-based card.  And, it did
 not work with the most current Windows drivers from the Realtek
 website, it worked with the Windows drivers that were from a couple
 years ago.  (I found this out quite by accident)
 
 Fortunately, they DID also have a number of the Wavelan
 cards - these are supported natively with the wi0 driver -
 that worked out of the box.  Those cards are only 802.11b
 though so I kept at it with ndisgen and the newer cards.
 
 The interesting thing is that the original wireless card I
 had in the Toshiba - a Texas Instruments-based chipset model -
 never really quite worked properly in the Toshiba under Windows.
 I put it into a different laptop I owned - a Thinkpad, and
 it worked great in that.
 
 Unfortunately, in your case, nothing has changed with ndisgen
 since 2006 (see http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/ndiscvt/ )
 so it's not that, it's something else in the system that changed.
 
 Start with the basics.  Copy your bcmwl5.ko into /boot/modules
 then in loader.conf put bcmw15_load=YES and reboot the system,
 check dmesg, and see if it's even loading
 
 Next put in /etc/rc.conf  ifconfig_ndis0=inet 192.168.1.1 ssid myssid
 and see if it even comes up at all and you can ping out (obviously
 you will have to temporairly turn off wpa on your wireless node,
 set the correct ssid, and set the correct IP address to hard-code an
 IP address)
 
 If that doesen't work, regen the bcmw15.ko file using the old
 method:
 
 # cp foo.sys foo.inf /sys/modules/if_ndis
 # cd /sys/modules/ndis
 # make; make load
 # cd /sys/modules/if_ndis
 # ndiscvt -i foo.inf -s foo.sys -o ndis_driver_data.h
 # make; make load
 
 You need to isolate the problem to see if the driver is simply
 just not working at all under 6.3, or if it is working, but it's
 a scripting or turnup out of sequence error.  And you need to
 see if wpa has anything to do with it.
 

Hi Ted. Thanks for the reply.

Unfortunately, until I either get time to resize my hard disk and add a
separate freebsd installation, or I figure out  how to undo a
buildworld, looks like I'm stuck.  It's my school laptop, so I kind of
need to get work done. ;)  (I am able to run a 6.3-RELEASE kernel, but
the 'world' is 6.3-RC1.)

Regarding older drivers:  Yes,  I had this problem with my current
chipset in 6.2-RELEASE.  This is why I was so surprised I had problems
with 6.3-RELEASE. 

Either way, I appreciate your response. 

Cheers.
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Re: Network identity for sending mail.

2008-03-16 Thread Mel
On Sunday 16 March 2008 08:47:47 Malcolm Kay wrote:

 The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent
 directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through
 an ISP mail service. 

No. It assumes that the variable MAIL_AGENT in the environment is capable of 
sending mail and if /unset/ uses sendmail.
Have a look at the mail/smail port and set MAIL_AGENT accordingly in 
environment. This can be done permanently for all users, by adding the 
variable to the setenv entry in the default listing in /etc/login.conf and 
running cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf afterwards.

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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100
Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and
 mplayer to play them.

I just want to watch them. I've friends on youtube and kids who make
movies of their 3days vacation i.e. Don't want to download them first
just to look at them. It's like downloading a CD to listen to a sample
to find out what's it like. Urg.

 Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download
 videos from several sites.

The same CON.

 I for one am very glad to _not_ see all the annoying flash-based ads.

And for me it's a handicap. It's like looking to the net through
glasses that are to dark to see all. I think it's a pity fbsd people
tend to ignore modern internet. Flash (or flash-like) webcontent will
not go away. Not for quite a while i.m.h.o.

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Re: IPFW with user-ppp's NAT

2008-03-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar


what's wrong in userland natd?


Performance.  With userland natd, every packet that passes through natd
must pass from kernel to userland (causing one context switch) and back
again (causing another context switch).  This will be slower and use more
CPU than doing it all inside the kernel, without any context switches.


true, anyway for my two 2Mbps symmetric connection (all for nat), and 
three 4/0.5Mbit connections (part for nat, mostly for squid) all natd 
processes takes at most 3 percent of single core (core2duo).


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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Gerard
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100
Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 02:55:20PM +, LtCdData wrote:
  
  So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on
  YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part,
  I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the
  mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within
  the first 10 minutes of use.
  
  So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of
  Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop?
  Caveats? Comments? Advice?
 
 For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and
 mplayer to play them.
 
 Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download
 videos from several sites.

That kind of sucks. The idea is to  simply click on a link and have it
work. Adding extra software to accomplish what is already being done on
other operating systems is regression not progress.

  I see flash popping on this list over and over, and as yet I have
  not seen a solution that fully works. Yes I tried the wrappers,
  gnash etc. on native firefox and opera with limited success,
  however as others have also noted flash is now required, and as for
  myself, fully working flash 9 is also.
 
 I for one am very glad to _not_ see all the annoying flash-based ads.

The simple fact that a site or precess requires 'flash' to display
correctly does not insinuate that the object is an advertisement. There
are several browser based add-ons that can handle to various degrees
pop-up advertisements, etc.

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Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread Miguel Mayol i Tur

I do like to try free OSs and distributions
Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP?
I cannot understand why not on these days.
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Re: Compile error, kde related?

2008-03-16 Thread Mel
On Sunday 16 March 2008 12:56:22 Leslie Jensen wrote:
 Leslie Jensen skrev:
  Mel skrev:
  On Saturday 15 March 2008 18:10:00 Leslie Jensen wrote:
  portupgrade -Rf x11-toolkits/qt33
  If uic still does not show linked to libthr, I have no clue what
  causes that on your system. I'd inspect /etc/libmap.conf,
  /etc/make.conf, the config.log for qt33 and the final link command
  that produces the uic binary.

 I've tried to make a fresh instal of FreeBSD 7.0 and there is libthr
 linked as it should be. What I don't understand is that on the system
 where I have the problem I did a pkg_delete -a after it was upgraded to
 7.0, and manually deleted everything left in /usr/local before starting
 over with the ports.

 Can I manually link uic to libthr and would it be a clean hack or?

Nope. But I would be interested to see what the line is that compiles uic. And 
what configure produces.

I still think there's something '6.x-ish' going on here, but without knowing 
how uic gets built, it's anyone's guess.

Could you try the following:
cd /usr/ports/x11/qt33
make clean
mkdir /var/log/portbuilds
make build /var/log/portbuilds/`make -V PKGNAME`.log 21
make -V CONFIGURE_ARGS  /var/log/portbuilds/`make -V PKGNAME`.log
cat `make -V WRKSRC`/config.log \
/var/log/portbuilds/`make -V PKGNAME`.log

Then put that log up somewhere if you have webspace, or try to find references 
to '-pthread', 'libpthread', 'libthr' and the final link command that makes 
uic.

It's probably some setting you have or some stray library that causes this and 
until you get it resolved, you can't trust any threaded application you build 
from ports. Or, it's specific for qt, but I highly doubt that.
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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar

me too.

but download all CD's, copy all of them to one place, perform

cd directory_where_you_copied_things
mkisofs -b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot -R -o /path_to_DVD_image .
then record DVD image

On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Miguel Mayol i Tur wrote:


I do like to try free OSs and distributions
Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP?
I cannot understand why not on these days.
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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread Glen Barber
Miguel Mayol i Tur said: 
 I do like to try free OSs and distributions
 Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP?
 I cannot understand why not on these days.

I personally cannot understand everyone's fascination with a DVD
installer.  If everyone is so intent on using the latest and greatest,
why do they want to install packages from the CD (or DVD), rather than
using ports?

Bandwidth, to me, is no excuse, because it takes less bandwidth to
download the ports tree + source code than it does to download a 4GB
DVD.  

Either way, there is a DVD available at freebsdmall.

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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:22PM +0100, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
 On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100
 Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and
  mplayer to play them.
 
 I just want to watch them. I've friends on youtube and kids who make
 movies of their 3days vacation i.e. Don't want to download them first
 just to look at them. It's like downloading a CD to listen to a sample
 to find out what's it like. Urg.

You could contribute to the development of gnash. The first beta (0.8.2)
is just out.

 And for me it's a handicap. It's like looking to the net through
 glasses that are to dark to see all. I think it's a pity fbsd people
 tend to ignore modern internet.

That's because it is not a FreeBSD issue. It's a ports issue.

Roland
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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 16/03/2008, Dick Hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I  think it's a pity fbsd people
  tend to ignore modern internet.

I think it's a pity that modern internet
tends to ignore rfc1855, but that won't
likely soon change, so put modern
internet on a boat with a reliably diverse
cast of likewise depthed, fully formed
personas (we need mini-bios in lieu
of the forward giving painfully incon-
sequential details about his/her/its
sexuality, helpfully providing inter-linear
Kobaian anagrams) and let them eat
each other down to the lone, plucky
survivor: Steve Howe.


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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 01:37:03PM -0400, Gerard wrote:
 On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:15:34 +0100
 Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 02:55:20PM +, LtCdData wrote:
   
   So what's the deal with Flash? Occasionally, I will get a link on
   YouTube/Google Video that looks interesting, but for the most part,
   I've ignored them. Over the years, I have occasionally tried the
   mozilla flash plugin, but that has always crashed my browser within
   the first 10 minutes of use.
   
   So for those of you using FreeBSD 7, what is the current state of
   Flash? Can it be used regularly? Is it ready for the BSD desktop?
   Caveats? Comments? Advice?
  
  For youtube, you can use the www/youtube-dl port to download them, and
  mplayer to play them.
  
  Alternatively, you can use the DownloadHelper add-on to download
  videos from several sites.
 
 That kind of sucks. The idea is to  simply click on a link and have it
 work. Adding extra software to accomplish what is already being done on
 other operating systems is regression not progress.

You are welcome to contribute to the development of a flash
player. Gnash has just gone to beta: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread Manolis Kiagias



Miguel Mayol i Tur wrote:

I do like to try free OSs and distributions
Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP?
I cannot understand why not on these days.

http://www.tuxdistro.com/download.php?id=921name=FreeBSD-7.0-RELEASE-DVD-ISO.torrent
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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
I Think the real trouble here is that Adobe, does not want to make us
a native FreeBSD version.
I bought into the whole FreeBSD is not popular enough thing for
awhile, but then I thought wait a minute.
Nvidia has a FreeBSD binary Driver, surely there are more FreeBSD
users that want to browse the web with flash that there is
own nvidia cards.

Sam Fourman Jr.
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RE: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD

2008-03-16 Thread Jeff Dickens
 I use the vmware tools for freebsd from the free vmware server product for my 
esx-hoster freebsd servers.  The good people at vmware are apparently not 
interested in adding official freebsd support to esx.

-Original Message-
From: Terry Sposato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 2:23 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD

Hi,

 

Is there any future development work being undertaken in order to port
vmware-tools to FreeBSD.

As our organisation using VMWare ESX Server and a lot of our servers are
being virtualised to save hardware costs, this would let our FreeBSD servers
follow as well.

 

It does work find under Linux so I am 50% confident that it would port to
FreeBSD if the work was done. Is it a licensing issue or another reason? Not
being a developer myself was just wondering if this has been tackled and if
it is being incorporated somewhere in the future?

 

Regards,

 

Terry

 

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7.0 crashes

2008-03-16 Thread Firas Kraiem
Greetings

I have a 7.0 system (upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7.0 using 
freebsd-update) and I've experienced a few system crashes (the system 
just hard-reboots on it's own) that seem to happen when it is under 
heavy network load (downloading at several megabytes/second).

Nothing gets written in /var/log/messages when the crashes happen, and 
I'm a bit clueless about how to investigate the issue further, so ideas 
would be much appreciated.

Firas


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Re: Network identity for sending mail.

2008-03-16 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2008-03-17 00:26, Malcolm Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:46 pm, Erik Trulsson wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote:
   The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent
   directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through
   an ISP mail service.
 
  Does it not work if you configure sendmail to send via your ISP's mail
  server?

 Sounds good, but how?

Set SMART_HOST in `/etc/mail/your-master-config.mc' :)

Then run:

# cd /etc/mail
# make  make install
# make restart

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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread Incoming Mail List

I think I can answer this one.  Perhaps, not enough disk space?  See,
the Where is packages-6.2-release for more context.  You know, disk
space isn't infinite...uh-huh.

I do like to try free OSs and distributions
Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP?
I cannot understand why not on these days.

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Shuffling GEOM mirror components

2008-03-16 Thread Omar Siddique

Hi folks,

I've been using GEOM mirror, and plan to expand my usage.  I was wondering 
how easy it is to deal with physical moves of the component drives of a 
mirror.


Eg, I have this GEOM mirror, and I migrate the hardware.  What's now ad6
becomes ad4 and ad7 becomes ad6.  What's the recommended way to do this, 
or does it just work when GEOM discovers the providers in their new 
locations?



gmirror status

NameStatus  Components
mirror/odata  COMPLETE  ad6
ad7

I checked manpages and handbook but didn't see any info there.

(running on FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE)

thanks,
-omar
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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread Mel
On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote:

 I think I can answer this one.  Perhaps, not enough disk space?  See,
 the Where is packages-6.2-release for more context.  You know, disk
 space isn't infinite...uh-huh.

Easy to bitch, ain't it?
Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth.

I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that 80% of 
what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the 
bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a 
proper use of resources.

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Wireless AP FreeBSD 7.0

2008-03-16 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
Hello,

my question is Does FreeBSD 7.0 Have ALTQ and pf enabled by default?
or do Ihave to compile that support in the kernel

Here is the HOWTO I am following to setup a Small office Samba File
Server / Wireless AP
http://tun0.net/ascii/config/freebsd_access_point/howtoforge-freebsd_wireless.html

if anyone knows of a more current HOWTO please let me know

Sam Fourman Jr.
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Re: Shuffling GEOM mirror components

2008-03-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 16/03/2008, Omar Siddique [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks,

  I've been using GEOM mirror, and plan to expand my usage.  I was wondering
  how easy it is to deal with physical moves of the component drives of a
  mirror.

  Eg, I have this GEOM mirror, and I migrate the hardware.  What's now ad6
  becomes ad4 and ad7 becomes ad6.  What's the recommended way to do this,
  or does it just work when GEOM discovers the providers in their new
  locations?

   gmirror status
  NameStatus  Components
  mirror/odata  COMPLETE  ad6
  ad7

  I checked manpages and handbook but didn't see any info there.

  (running on FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE)

geom tastes every hard drive it can for that
bacony goodness in the last few tracks
and is, in that way, as automagical as you
could want.  Since all the mirrhour info  is
contained in these meta-data (including
the massively overbitted $id_number of
any additional providers) as long as they're
there, it should attach just fine.

Nice way of solving that old:
My scsi controllers probe in dif'rent order
every boot and da6 bekommt da9 some-
times, help?

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Re: 7.0 crashes

2008-03-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings

  I have a 7.0 system (upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7.0 using
  freebsd-update) and I've experienced a few system crashes (the system
  just hard-reboots on it's own) that seem to happen when it is under
  heavy network load (downloading at several megabytes/second).

  Nothing gets written in /var/log/messages when the crashes happen, and
  I'm a bit clueless about how to investigate the issue further, so ideas
  would be much appreciated.


Lo, back in the days of fbsd4.1.1 (or thereabouts) a
similar problem had I: random crashes under network
load with no core files, no dumps, no errors.

Try replacing your NIC.

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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 16/03/2008, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote:

   I think I can answer this one.  Perhaps, not enough disk space?  See,
   the Where is packages-6.2-release for more context.  You know, disk
   space isn't infinite...uh-huh.

  Easy to bitch, ain't it?
  Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth.

  I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that 80% of
  what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the
  bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a
  proper use of resources.

How many iterations of:
I just downloadededed all 4 iso's(sic) and the
bootonly, which one do I need to do a nef tea pee
install?

Then again, who ever listened to all 16 tracks
of their (First Pressing!) Japanese ...baby one
more time?

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Re: USB printer

2008-03-16 Thread Chuck Robey
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 Subject: Re: USB printer


 Cups on FreeBSD is still woefully underdocumented, relying 100% on others
 sites, when the cups installation has been changed (somewhat) to 
 agree with
 hier(7).  I agree that needed to be done, and would have been complaining
 if it hadn't,  but then there should have been some small notes detailing
 how to install a local driver.  
 
 The problem here is that CUPS is really mostly useful if your
 using Gnome for your desktop, because there's a lot of GUI
 configuration software that is written for that desktop that
 makes CUPS configuration a snap.  (and installing foomatic
 drivers and the like)
 
 If your not a right-clicker or an i-book flipper than it's
 understandable you would wonder why there's so much attention
 paid to CUPS for FreeBSD since it does nothing for the usual
 command line junkie.

Sorry, I hate to differ, but even on my Mac OSX with dual PPC processors, I
use lpr all the time, and I use ssh (hostname) lpr filetoprint from
FreeBSD to my mac, it works just fine, and the Mac is running Cups.  It
does too do stuff for command line people, it's just that no one installing
cups on FreeBSD has done anything to get that definitely established part
of Cups working right.

 
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Re: SATA problems (Abit IP35-Pro)

2008-03-16 Thread Alexander Sack
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Isaac Mushinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 14 March 2008 13:57:11 Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
  I am setting up a new system with Abit IP35-Pro (ich9r), 2 WD SATA
 drives
  on the controller. There is also a SATA DVDRW to boot from.
  With the default SATA setup (SATA/IDE) the system cannot find any SATA
  drive. I was able to boot the install disk, attaching an old IDE CDROM,
 but
  still could not make it see the hard drive.
 
  If I set SATA controller to AHCI, the system boots (although with some
 ACPI
  errors), and I was able to install. However, fdisk thinks that the
 geometry
  is incorrect, and insists on a different one (it says the drives have
  476gb rather than 500gb).
 
  I can install with this AHCI setup, but have no idea what the
 implications
  are. Is there a known fix for SATA/IDE? Or is AHCI better?


 Very well, but now I boot with ACPI errors like these:

 ACPI Error (psparse-0626) Method parse/execution failed [\\_TZ_.THRM._TMP]
 (Node 0xff000224ac60), AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE
 ACPI Exception (dsutils-0766) AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE Missing or null
 operand
 [20070320]
 ACPI Exception (dsutils-0766) AE_AML_NO_RETURN_VALUE While creating Arg 0
 [20070320]

 If I attempt to boot without ACPI, the machine hangs while trying to mount
 root filesystem. Why does disabling ACPI cause disk access problems? What
 can
 I do to fix this? Can I disable only thermal part of ACPI?
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Could be a number reasons including interrupt routing to power management.
 Given that the AML error message refers to I believe a power mgmt table.

Can you try disabling power management in the BIOS, enable AHCI, and give it
a go?  If that doesn't work, try turning SMP off.

-aps

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Re: Shuffling GEOM mirror components

2008-03-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar


I've been using GEOM mirror, and plan to expand my usage.  I was wondering 
how easy it is to deal with physical moves of the component drives of a 
mirror.


very reasy.



Eg, I have this GEOM mirror, and I migrate the hardware.  What's now ad6
becomes ad4 and ad7 becomes ad6.  What's the recommended way to do this, or 
does it just work when GEOM discovers the providers in their new locations?


it will just work unless you used -h option when labeling.
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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:32:06 +0200
Ion-Mihai Tetcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Your mails are constantly marked as spam because of spamhaus' PBL
 http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL169796

Too bad for spamhaus that they can't make a difference between
legitimate mail and real spam. Not my fault though. Yes I _can_ use my
isp for mail, but I won't. Things are pretty well organised here.

 Maybe you can remove your IP from the list on the page above?

I have no access to spamhaus. Spam is a bad thing but people are
overreacting by blocking dynamic ip's. Lots of us are 'good' people
y'know. All mail coming from one of my servers is clean. Period.

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Re: Wireless AP FreeBSD 7.0

2008-03-16 Thread Mel
On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:07:53 Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:

 my question is Does FreeBSD 7.0 Have ALTQ and pf enabled by default?
 or do Ihave to compile that support in the kernel

pf, yes. Altq, not on 6.x, don't know if that's changed and can't check my 7.x 
system atm. See man altq when in doubt.

 Here is the HOWTO I am following to setup a Small office Samba File
 Server / Wireless AP
 http://tun0.net/ascii/config/freebsd_access_point/howtoforge-freebsd_wirele
ss.html

 if anyone knows of a more current HOWTO please let me know

Hmm, it's quite outdated, but most things will work.
I don't see the reason for using pfsync on a small home network with only 1 
gateway to the net, so you can leave that out.
You don't need bind9 port, cause FreeBSD has bind 9 in base for quite a while.
Wlan layers will be loaded automically, when a driver is loaded that needs 
them, so no need for them to be loaded in loader.conf.
The table in the pf config has no name, not very good practice and not sure if 
that'll work.
The pf config also doesn't define any queues, so compiling in altq isn't 
necessary with the config given there.

Before you do anything, make sure the driver for your wireless card supports:
- hostap
- apbridge

You can check this with ifconfig -v on the interface name, i.e.:
ath0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
inet 192.168.100.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.100.255
inet 192.168.100.51 netmask 0x broadcast 192.168.100.51
ether 00:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g hostap
  ^^
status: associated
ssid MYSSID channel 1 (2412) bssid 00:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1
wepkey 1:104-bit powersavemode OFF powersavesleep 100 txpowmax 34
txpower 63 rtsthreshold 2346 mcastrate 1 fragthreshold 2346 bmiss 7
-pureg protmode CTS -wme burst ssid SHOW apbridge dtimperiod 1
 
bintval 100

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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:32:06 +0200
Ion-Mihai Tetcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe you can remove your IP from the list on the page above ?

DONE.

OK, Removal Pending

The IP address has been added to the PBL Removals database. Please allow 30 
minutes for servers around the world to update their data (it is possible for 
some servers to take a little longer, we do not control the update times of all 
DNSBL servers).

Under normal circumstances, in approximately 30 minutes you should be able to 
send email directly to networks that use Spamhaus' Policy Block List anti-spam 
system.

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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread Mel
On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:20:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 16/03/2008, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote:
I think I can answer this one.  Perhaps, not enough disk space?  See,
the Where is packages-6.2-release for more context.  You know, disk
space isn't infinite...uh-huh.
 
   Easy to bitch, ain't it?
   Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth.
 
   I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that 80% of
   what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the
   bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's a
   proper use of resources.

 How many iterations of:
 I just downloadededed all 4 iso's(sic) and the
 bootonly, which one do I need to do a nef tea pee
 install?

It's not iteratitive, but recursive, since the next time they only download 1, 
(pardon the amnesiacs). :)
(I know, I'm an optimist)

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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Robert Huff

Sam Fourman Jr. writes:

  I Think the real trouble here is that Adobe, does not want to
  make us a native FreeBSD version.

The last time I looked into this:
Adobe does not (seem to) have a problem with FreeBSD; indeed, I
got the impression they barely know we exist.
What they seem resistant to is publishing a complete and
accurate specification that would allow third parties to write
interface code.
This is said to be changing with Flash 10.  /If/ I remember
correctly, the guts will still be proprietary but it will connect to
a wrapper whose interface will publicly available.  (Search keyword
= ActionScript ???)


Robert Huff


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Re: state of flash on FreeBSD 7?

2008-03-16 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:40:42 +0100
Dick Hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:32:06 +0200
 Ion-Mihai Tetcu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Your mails are constantly marked as spam because of spamhaus' PBL
  http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL169796
 
 Too bad for spamhaus that they can't make a difference between
 legitimate mail and real spam. Not my fault though. Yes I _can_ use my
 isp for mail, but I won't. Things are pretty well organised here.

It's not the case here. They are only saying that your ISP says it is
against its TOS to send emails from your IP or (and I agree this part
is problematic) they decided it is a dynamic range, etc.

  Maybe you can remove your IP from the list on the page above?
 
 I have no access to spamhaus.

You can remove that particular IP from that page (which you just did
from reading your other email).

 Spam is a bad thing but people are overreacting by blocking dynamic
 ip's.

I agree, theoretically. In practice it's the first non-spam IP I
receive in the 2 weeks since I started using zen.spamhous.org (which
includes pbl.) in my dspam config.

 Lots of us are 'good' people y'know.

Yes, I know.

 All mail coming from one of my servers is clean. Period.

I don't doubt it :)


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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread Joshua Isom


On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Mel wrote:


On Sunday ١٦ March ٢٠٠٨ ٢١:٠٣:٢٧ Incoming Mail List wrote:


I think I can answer this one.  Perhaps, not enough disk space?  See,
the Where is packages-٦.٢-release for more context.  You know, disk
space isn't infinite...uh-huh.


Easy to bitch, ain't it?
Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth.

I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that ٨٠% 
of

what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the
bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's 
a

proper use of resources.



Well, since the OP just wants a DVD version, and not specifically a 
version that's too big to fit on a CD, why not just create a DVD iso 
that contains just enough to install?


Personally, I wonder why there isn't a ISO image that'll install 
FreeBSD somewhat in a Gentoo concept, format the disk(s), download the 
source, csup and install from the source(good for someone wanting to 
follow -STABLE instead of -RELEASE), install and csup the ports tree, 
and good to go.


Anyway, odds are the OP wants to try out PCBSD instead of FreeBSD.  I 
don't see much purpose in home use live cd's if you don't want a 
desktop environment.



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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread Mel
On Sunday 16 March 2008 22:29:29 Joshua Isom wrote:
 On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Mel wrote:
  On Sunday ١٦ March ٢٠٠٨ ٢١:٠٣:٢٧ Incoming Mail List wrote:
  I think I can answer this one.  Perhaps, not enough disk space?  See,
  the Where is packages-٦.٢-release for more context.  You know, disk
  space isn't infinite...uh-huh.
 
  Easy to bitch, ain't it?
  Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth.
 
  I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that ٨٠%
  of
  what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the
  bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's
  a
  proper use of resources.

 Well, since the OP just wants a DVD version, and not specifically a
 version that's too big to fit on a CD, why not just create a DVD iso
 that contains just enough to install?

Unless there's DVD drives out there that can't mount cd's (which would 
surprise me since DVD's use iso9660 file system), there's no reason to make a 
700MB dvd image.

 Personally, I wonder why there isn't a ISO image that'll install
 FreeBSD somewhat in a Gentoo concept, format the disk(s), download the
 source, csup and install from the source(good for someone wanting to
 follow -STABLE instead of -RELEASE), install and csup the ports tree,
 and good to go.

Cause a gzipped ports tree requires less resources then a csup'd one, for one 
and because you may want to get the gateway you're building on site to have 
some decent firewall rules before going up the big scary net.
Install disks have their use and binary installs are faster all around, but 
there's limits to convenience and having all binary packages on disk, most of 
which are obsolete within weeks, majority of which you'll never use (17k+ 
ports atm) certainly is one of them.

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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread Thomas Sparrevohn
On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:29:29 Joshua Isom wrote:
 
 On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Mel wrote:
 
  On Sunday ١٦ March ٢٠٠٨ ٢١:٠٣:٢٧ Incoming Mail List wrote:
 
  I think I can answer this one.  Perhaps, not enough disk space?  See,
  the Where is packages-٦.٢-release for more context.  You know, disk
  space isn't infinite...uh-huh.
 
  Easy to bitch, ain't it?
  Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth.
 
  I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that ٨٠% 
  of
  what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up the
  bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe that's 
  a
  proper use of resources.
 
 
 Well, since the OP just wants a DVD version, and not specifically a 
 version that's too big to fit on a CD, why not just create a DVD iso 
 that contains just enough to install?
 
 Personally, I wonder why there isn't a ISO image that'll install 
 FreeBSD somewhat in a Gentoo concept, format the disk(s), download the 
 source, csup and install from the source(good for someone wanting to 
 follow -STABLE instead of -RELEASE), install and csup the ports tree, 
 and good to go.
 

Sorry - FreeBSD is - you have been able to install FreeBSD from the 
mini dist  (I and floppies used to work) for a long long time.

Personally I would like to have the option of a DVD - but
that is mainly because I would like it as a backup of /usr/local 
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Re: Network identity for sending mail.

2008-03-16 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:07 am, Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:26:07AM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote:
  On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:46 pm, Erik Trulsson wrote:
   On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote:
The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent
directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through
an ISP mail service.
   
   Does it not work if you configure sendmail to send via your ISP's mail
   server?
  
  Sounds good, but how?
 
 I do not use sendmail myself, so I am not sure of all the details, but
 go to /etc/mail/  and define SMART_HOST appropriately in the right .mc
 file.
 Read the Makefile there for information on how to rebuild things and which
 files are used.
 
 Googling for 'freebsd sendmail smart_host' should also provide useful
 information.
 
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:59 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 Set SMART_HOST in `/etc/mail/your-master-config.mc' :)
 
 Then run:
 
   # cd /etc/mail
   # make  make install
   # make restart
 

Thanks guys,
I'd heard of SMART_HOST but did not realise this would overcome
my identity problem.

Your attention is much appreciated.

Malcolm
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Re: Network identity for sending mail.

2008-03-16 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:59 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2008-03-17 00:26, Malcolm Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:46 pm, Erik Trulsson wrote:
   On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote:
The send-pr appears to assume that mail can and will be sent
directly through sendmail or equivalent rather than inderctly through
an ISP mail service.
  
   Does it not work if you configure sendmail to send via your ISP's mail
   server?
 
  Sounds good, but how?
 
 Set SMART_HOST in `/etc/mail/your-master-config.mc' :)
 
 Then run:
 
   # cd /etc/mail
   # make  make install
   # make restart
 
 
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Re: Network identity for sending mail.

2008-03-16 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2008-03-17 08:36, Malcolm Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:07 am, Erik Trulsson wrote:
  I do not use sendmail myself, so I am not sure of all the details, but
  go to /etc/mail/  and define SMART_HOST appropriately in the right .mc
  file.
  Read the Makefile there for information on how to rebuild things and which
  files are used.
 
  Googling for 'freebsd sendmail smart_host' should also provide useful
  information.

 On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:59 am, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
  Set SMART_HOST in `/etc/mail/your-master-config.mc' :)
 
  Then run:
 
  # cd /etc/mail
  # make  make install
  # make restart
 

 Thanks guys,
 I'd heard of SMART_HOST but did not realise this would overcome
 my identity problem.

 Your attention is much appreciated.

Hi Malcolm.

You are welcome, of course :)

If you stick around with Sendmail, it may be interesting to search
through the archives.  There are a few posts which may be interesting
for other setup details of your outgoing email, like email address
rewriting (commonly called `masquerading' in Sendmail documentation).

A few pointers to get you started are:

http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.questions/msg/a6aafc66482070c1
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc/msg/83fdd8740321db86
http://groups.google.com/group/lucky.freebsd.questions/msg/7cf951f12567f2fe
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc/msg/562dc23fca32c37c
http://groups.google.com/group/list.freebsd.questions/msg/8dff805cd2bc76be

Then in the post at

http://groups.google.com/group/list.freebsd.questions/msg/c9fc1a5a75d9120a

you can find a bit of help about `mailertable', the Sendmail feature I
use to forward all my email to my default SMART_HOST and redirect
company-internal email to the internal mail server of my workplace.

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Re: Wireless AP FreeBSD 7.0

2008-03-16 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 04:07:53PM -0400, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
 Hello,
 
 my question is Does FreeBSD 7.0 Have ALTQ and pf enabled by default?
 or do I have to compile that support in the kernel

You'll have to compile a kernel for ALTQ support. But pf is available as
a module for the GENERIC kernel.
 
 Here is the HOWTO I am following to setup a Small office Samba File
 Server / Wireless AP
 http://tun0.net/ascii/config/freebsd_access_point/howtoforge-freebsd_wireless.html
 
 if anyone knows of a more current HOWTO please let me know

It looks pretty current to me.

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Re: FW: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD

2008-03-16 Thread Terry Sposato

SNIP



Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

Are you asking if FreeBSD can be made to run the ESX software so that
a FreeBSD server can virtualize multiple systems, or are you asking
if an ESX server can create a virtual machine that FreeBSD can run in?

If your using the commercial ESX product I would assume you would be
using it on it's own bare metal product incarnation which I think
uses a hacked-up version of Linux (without a compiler or any other
normal Linux tools).  In that case I do not see why you would have
a problem running multiple FreeBSD virtual servers on the ESX
server.


That's not what OP is asking. He wants to run FreeBSD as VM in ESX.
There's currently no support from VMWare for FreeBSD, but it runs anyway.



I figured that was what he was asking, but we should probably
hear from him to make sure that this is really what he was asking.

Unfortunately,
the original post was either from someone who didn't use English
as their native language, or they are paying for their Internet
connection by-the-byte and were trying to make the question as
short as possible, as a result, the entire meaning of the post
was lost.

Ted



OK, maybe I was not clear enough so I will try again.
I want to run FreeBSD as a VM Guest on a VMWare ESX Server. Currently 
there is no problem with it and it works fine. The problems arise when 
you want to take advantage of the HA ability of ESX Server, as it only 
supports Virtual Machines with the VM Tools running.


So what I am asking is if someone has ever though about porting the 
VMWare Tools to run in a FreeBSD Virtual Machine image.


Terry
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That age old question again

2008-03-16 Thread Robert Chalmers
Not quite but close.
On the front page of FreeBSD.org, is the download links for
LATEST RELEASES
  a.. Production Release 7.0
Which I'm assuming is the latest, and commercially useable version.

Now I still find the situation of CURRENT, STABLE as they relate to RELEASE 
slightly confusing, and no amount of description seems to clear it up.

Ok, I understand CURRENT is developmental, and becomes the next major 
version as stated below. So the next major version is the one on the 
website? Release 7.0 - or, 7.0-RELEASE ...yes/no?

Then 7.0-STABLE continues the work to be the bugfix/security blah blah tree.

The question I have is:  For the Production Release shown above - 
7.0-RELEASE, what is the cvsup tag to keep this version updated ??

.
-CURRENT is the development tree that will eventually become the next major 
version of FreeBSD. The developers try to keep this tree buildable, but they 
can't guarantee that it will be usable. Tread lightly all those that dare 
run this version. You must know what you are doing, understand how to debug 
and rebuild, and be prepared for lost data. As I write, this is known as 
7-CURRENT, which will one day become FreeBSD 7.0. The cvsup tag for CURRENT 
is . (the period).
.

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More information about the problem I'm having (was Installation locks up)

2008-03-16 Thread Michael Moldenhauer
Thought this bit of extra information might be
helpful. I've noticed that on some attempts it gets
past the point where it is copying the base system and
then proceeds with the stage where it's copying
GENERIC to /boot, gets to 12% and then freezes up.

What is wrong with this? Something wrong with the
computer? A bug in the software? How can I find out
what is causing the trouble I am having?

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

mike3 wrote:
 Hi.
 
 I was attempting to install FreeBSD 7.0 on a Sun
 computer (Sun Blade 100 with 500MHz UltraSPARC IIe
 CPU). It seems to be having trouble though. When it
 gets done (100%) copying the base system to / (the
 first part of the install), it freezes up cold (I
 can't even ALT-F4 to teh emergency console session.)
 What's wrong? I can't seem to figure it out.



  

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Re: That age old question again

2008-03-16 Thread Mel
On Monday 17 March 2008 00:18:27 Robert Chalmers wrote:
 Not quite but close.
 On the front page of FreeBSD.org, is the download links for
 LATEST RELEASES
   a.. Production Release 7.0
 Which I'm assuming is the latest, and commercially useable version.

 Now I still find the situation of CURRENT, STABLE as they relate to RELEASE
 slightly confusing, and no amount of description seems to clear it up.

 Ok, I understand CURRENT is developmental, and becomes the next major
 version as stated below. So the next major version is the one on the
 website? Release 7.0 - or, 7.0-RELEASE ...yes/no?

 Then 7.0-STABLE continues the work to be the bugfix/security blah blah
 tree.

 The question I have is:  For the Production Release shown above -
 7.0-RELEASE, what is the cvsup tag to keep this version updated ??

Releases are like photos: a momentum in time.
Current and stable are moving targets, where current moves faster then stable. 
As a general rule, if something comitted in -current holds up for x weeks (I 
believe 3, but it ain't written in stone) and it has importance for -stable, 
it will be committed to stable and end up in a the next /minor/ release for 
that branch.
Development in -current ends up in the next /major/ release.
As it stands, 7 is the stable branch, 8 is the current branch and 6 is legacy 
stable, 5 is pray-it-still-works ancient 'stable' and 4 is passed end-of 
life.
So far so good.
Except, there's also the ability to keep a release up to date with only 
security fixes. That's what you want to use in production and the cvs tag 
contains two version numbers: RELENG_7_0.

Yes, I realize many use -stable branches in production, but there is the 
chance that your system is broken on reboot.
Reading through the dated entries in /usr/src/UPDATING gives you an idea what 
users of -stable can deal with and make your descision accordingly.

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Re: That age old question again

2008-03-16 Thread Bill Moran
Robert Chalmers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not quite but close.
 On the front page of FreeBSD.org, is the download links for
 LATEST RELEASES
   a.. Production Release 7.0
 Which I'm assuming is the latest, and commercially useable version.
 
 Now I still find the situation of CURRENT, STABLE as they relate to RELEASE 
 slightly confusing, and no amount of description seems to clear it up.

What's so confusing?

CURRENT = pure development branch for major new features ... i.e. will
  become 8.0 eventually.
STABLE = development to the next minor release ... 7-STABLE will become
 7.1 eventually, and 6-STABLE will eventually become 6.4

 Ok, I understand CURRENT is developmental, and becomes the next major 
 version as stated below. So the next major version is the one on the 
 website? Release 7.0 - or, 7.0-RELEASE ...yes/no?

CURRENT will become 8.0 when it hits release.  Probably in a few years.

 Then 7.0-STABLE continues the work to be the bugfix/security blah blah tree.
 
 The question I have is:  For the Production Release shown above - 
 7.0-RELEASE, what is the cvsup tag to keep this version updated ??

You want RELENG_7_0 for bugfixes/security fixes for production systems.

You only want STABLE or CURRENT if you're testing the next version, assisting
with development, or need a feature before it's officially released.

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Re: 7.0 crashes

2008-03-16 Thread Firas Kraiem
On Sunday 16 March 2008 20:43:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Greetings
 
   I have a 7.0 system (upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7.0 using
   freebsd-update) and I've experienced a few system crashes (the
  system just hard-reboots on it's own) that seem to happen when it
  is under heavy network load (downloading at several
  megabytes/second).
 
   Nothing gets written in /var/log/messages when the crashes happen,
  and I'm a bit clueless about how to investigate the issue further,
  so ideas would be much appreciated.

 Lo, back in the days of fbsd4.1.1 (or thereabouts) a
 similar problem had I: random crashes under network
 load with no core files, no dumps, no errors.

 Try replacing your NIC.

Thanks for your answer.

The NIC in question is a Realtek 8139 and indeed, Google told me that a 
few people have been experiencing similar issues with it. However, that 
was with old (4.x/5.x) FreeBSD releases, so I'm wondering: is this 
particular NIC model still causing problems or is it the NIC breaking 
in some way? The reason I ask is that the machine is a dedicated server 
over which I have no hardware control, so asking the provider to 
replace the NIC with another model could be a bit bothersome.

Firas

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Re: FW: VMWare Tools for FreeBSD

2008-03-16 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On March 17, 2008 10:03:54 AM +1100 Terry Sposato [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


OK, maybe I was not clear enough so I will try again.
I want to run FreeBSD as a VM Guest on a VMWare ESX Server. Currently
there is no problem with it and it works fine. The problems arise when
you want to take advantage of the HA ability of ESX Server, as it only
supports Virtual Machines with the VM Tools running.

So what I am asking is if someone has ever though about porting the
VMWare Tools to run in a FreeBSD Virtual Machine image.



I downloaded the open-vm-tools from Sourceforge and tried to compile and 
make them.  The compile went fine, but the make failed.  I'm not a 
programmer, so I struggle trying to resolve such problems.  I'd be happy 
to make a port for it, but I would need help from someone with more 
programming knowledge than I.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

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Re: 7.0 crashes

2008-03-16 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 01:08:44AM +0100, Firas Kraiem wrote:
 Thanks for your answer.
 
 The NIC in question is a Realtek 8139 and indeed, Google told me that a 
 few people have been experiencing similar issues with it. However, that 
 was with old (4.x/5.x) FreeBSD releases, so I'm wondering: is this 
 particular NIC model still causing problems or is it the NIC breaking 
 in some way? The reason I ask is that the machine is a dedicated server 
 over which I have no hardware control, so asking the provider to 
 replace the NIC with another model could be a bit bothersome.

Read the BUGS section of rl(4) and weep. It seems to be a case of poorly
documented or defined behavior on the part of the chip.

Having said that, I've used rl(4) based network cards in workstations
without problems. But then my outbound line is 2 mbit ADSL, which won't
even come close to seriously loading the hardware.

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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread Fred C


Same for me I have never uploaded the CD2 and 3. Ok, maybe once long  
time ago when I was young and the FreeBSD version was 4.xx.


I install the os from the CD1 and then I install everything I need  
from ports.


-fred-

On Mar 16, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Glen Barber wrote:


Miguel Mayol i Tur said:

I do like to try free OSs and distributions
Why not a DVD version at bittorent and or at the FTP?
I cannot understand why not on these days.


I personally cannot understand everyone's fascination with a DVD
installer.  If everyone is so intent on using the latest and  
greatest,

why do they want to install packages from the CD (or DVD), rather than
using ports?

Bandwidth, to me, is no excuse, because it takes less bandwidth to
download the ports tree + source code than it does to download a 4GB
DVD.

Either way, there is a DVD available at freebsdmall.

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Re: Why not a DVD iso version too?

2008-03-16 Thread Fred C


On Mar 16, 2008, at 1:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 16/03/2008, Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sunday 16 March 2008 21:03:27 Incoming Mail List wrote:

I think I can answer this one.  Perhaps, not enough disk space?   
See,
the Where is packages-6.2-release for more context.  You know,  
disk

space isn't infinite...uh-huh.


Easy to bitch, ain't it?
Make an iso-dvd then and provide the space and bandwidth.

I hope they never release a DVD officially, cause it'll mean that  
80% of
what's downloaded then will never ever be used, yet it does use up  
the
bandwidth on every new release. Stick to windows if you believe  
that's a

proper use of resources.


How many iterations of:
I just downloadededed all 4 iso's(sic) and the
bootonly, which one do I need to do a nef tea pee
install?


Ok you do that maybe once or twice but you quickly understand that you  
don't really need the CD2 and CD3. Also some people like to collect.  
They have shelves with all the releases from from Unix V3, but I am  
sure this is not the majority.


Save the bandwith!

-fred-


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CURRENT vs. STABLE vs. RELEASE, tags and branches [was: Re: That age old question again]

2008-03-16 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2008-03-17 09:18, Robert Chalmers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not quite but close.
 On the front page of FreeBSD.org, is the download links for
 LATEST RELEASES
   a.. Production Release 7.0
 Which I'm assuming is the latest, and commercially useable version.

 Now I still find the situation of CURRENT, STABLE as they relate to RELEASE
 slightly confusing, and no amount of description seems to clear it up.

 Ok, I understand CURRENT is developmental, and becomes the next major
 version as stated below. So the next major version is the one on the
 website? Release 7.0 - or, 7.0-RELEASE ...yes/no?

 Then 7.0-STABLE continues the work to be the bugfix/security blah blah tree.

 The question I have is:  For the Production Release shown above -
 7.0-RELEASE, what is the cvsup tag to keep this version updated ??

Hi Robert,

After the 7.0-RELEASE was announced the following CVS tags became
available for general use:

RELENG_7_0_0_RELEASE

This is a 'snapshot' of the source tree at the time of the
release.  No bug fixes are possible in a 'snapshot' tag.  It is
just a reference point, which can be used to reconstruct a copy
of the source tree used to build 7.0-RELEASE.

RELENG_7_0

This is a 'branch' that includes all the source files of the
release snapshot and *security* fixes only.  Being a 'branch'
this is not a static snapshot.  It may 'move' in time, pointing
to newer updates for some files.  Since it is a security-only
branch, however, updates are expected to be minimal and are
announced in freebsd-security as they become available.

RELENG_7

This is a branch too.  It includes all development of the
7-STABLE series.  Created at the same point as the release tag
called RELENG_7_0_0_RELEASE, this is the basis for all the
subsequent releases 'cut from the 7.X series'.  The changes
which are allowed to go into this branch are a lot more than
`RELENG_7_0', its associated security branch.  New userland
features, documentation updates, even new utilities or entirely
new kernel features are all allowed, as long as compatibility
with previous 7.X releases is not compromised.

If you haven't read them already, the following two links are probably
going to be useful:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/version-guide/
http://www.freebsd.org/security/security.html#supported-branches


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Re: 7.0 crashes

2008-03-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 16 March 2008 20:43:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 16/03/2008, Firas Kraiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings
   
 I have a 7.0 system (upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 then to 7.0 using
 freebsd-update) and I've experienced a few system crashes (the
system just hard-reboots on it's own) that seem to happen when it
is under heavy network load (downloading at several
megabytes/second).
   
 Nothing gets written in /var/log/messages when the crashes happen,
and I'm a bit clueless about how to investigate the issue further,
so ideas would be much appreciated.
  
   Lo, back in the days of fbsd4.1.1 (or thereabouts) a
   similar problem had I: random crashes under network
   load with no core files, no dumps, no errors.
  
   Try replacing your NIC.


 Thanks for your answer.

  The NIC in question is a Realtek 8139 and indeed, Google told me that a
  few people have been experiencing similar issues with it. However, that
  was with old (4.x/5.x) FreeBSD releases, so I'm wondering: is this
  particular NIC model still causing problems or is it the NIC breaking
  in some way? The reason I ask is that the machine is a dedicated server
  over which I have no hardware control, so asking the provider to
  replace the NIC with another model could be a bit bothersome.

I couldn't possibly say in your case, but in mine it was
a 3com xl nic that had simply gone crackers.

Any time I get weird, dumpless reboots I suspect hard-
ware.  Or Thor.

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Re: IPFW with user-ppp's NAT

2008-03-16 Thread Ian Smith
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:20:12 +0100 (CET)
 Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   what's wrong in userland natd?
  
   Performance.  With userland natd, every packet that passes through natd
   must pass from kernel to userland (causing one context switch) and back
   again (causing another context switch).  This will be slower and use more
   CPU than doing it all inside the kernel, without any context switches.
  
  true, anyway for my two 2Mbps symmetric connection (all for nat), and 
  three 4/0.5Mbit connections (part for nat, mostly for squid) all natd 
  processes takes at most 3 percent of single core (core2duo).

Sure.  And with my little 512/128k ADSL link, soon 1500/256, I doubt you
could even measure the difference.  I haven't seen any comparative data
on high-performance boxes but as Erik points out, it may be significant. 

Just to make it clear, my point was that one reason for deprecating ipfw
is out the door, and that its development is ongoing.  I see rc.firewall
has had a recent facelift too, including a stateful 'workstation' type. 

(Sorry that our ancient mail setup blocked your mail; hopefully fixed.)

cheers, Ian

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Does FreeBSD support rfc4443-ICMPv6?

2008-03-16 Thread Rommel Laranjo
Hello,

Can anyone shed light if FreeBSD already support ICMPv6 based on RFC 4443?

Thanks,

Rommel
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ARP(4) spoofing?

2008-03-16 Thread Modulok
Would this be ARP(4) spoofing, or is it just me? How would I confirm it?

arp: 192.168.1.1 is on lo0 but got reply from xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx on em1
last message repeated 18 times
last message repeated 19 times
last message repeated 9 times
last message repeated 10 times
last message repeated 19 times
last message repeated 24 times
last message repeated 24 times
last message repeated 24 times
last message repeated 34 times
last message repeated 23 times
last message repeated 23 times
last message repeated 26 times
last message repeated 26 times
last message repeated 26 times
last message repeated 25 times
last message repeated 25 times
last message repeated 27 times
last message repeated 30 times
last message repeated 27 times
last message repeated 27 times
last message repeated 30 times
last message repeated 10 times
...

This is on a FreeBSD router, em1 is Internet-facing. 192.168.1.1 (em0)
is LAN facing and permanent entry in the arp cache. This happens
constantly and is slowly filling my log files.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
-Modulok-
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RE: ARP(4) spoofing?

2008-03-16 Thread Brent Jones
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Modulok
 Sent: Monday, 17 March 2008 4:36 p.m.
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: ARP(4) spoofing?
 
 Would this be ARP(4) spoofing, or is it just me? How would I 
 confirm it?
 
 arp: 192.168.1.1 is on lo0 but got reply from xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx on em1
 last message repeated 18 times
 This is on a FreeBSD router, em1 is Internet-facing. 192.168.1.1 (em0)
 is LAN facing and permanent entry in the arp cache. This happens
 constantly and is slowly filling my log files.
 
 Thoughts? Suggestions?
 -Modulok-

What does an ifconfig -a on your machine show?  It looks like you've
configured your loopback interface to also have 192.168.1.1

Cheers,
Brent
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Re: EVOLUTION SLOW START , a workaround

2008-03-16 Thread User Lenzi


 I'm trying to use your patch but it fails to apply patch.
 It results in:
 
 ecerejo# patch -uspl /usr/home/webdude/patch.b
 File to patch: patch-gmodule::gmodule-dl.c
 4 out of 4 hunks failed--saving rejects to patch-gmodule::gmodule-dl.c.rej
 
 

OK, probably, it is because you did not put the module (the patch in the
correct place)

the patch I publish on the email is to replace the glib patch that is
located in:
/usr/ports/devel/glib20/files/patch-gmodule::gmodule-dl.c

the idea is:
you copy the code from the email, and replace the file in the 
/usr/ports/devel/glib20/files/patch-gmodule::gmodule-dl.c

and then just build glib20 again. either by the comand
(cd /usr/ports/devel/glib20;make clean deinstall install)  or
portupgrade -fp devel/glib20

should work

There is no need to rebuild evolution.

the patch works with glib versions 2 
tested on glib2.12 till 2.16 (the last one).

cut===
--- gmodule/gmodule-dl.c.orig 2008-02-07 03:24:53.0 -0200
+++ gmodule/gmodule-dl.c 2008-03-11 18:53:44.0 -0300
@@ -73,6 +73,14 @@
#endif /* RTLD_GLOBAL */


+static char *special_names[]={
+ g_module_check_init,
+ g_module_unload,
+ e_plugin_lib_enable,
+ NULL
+};
+ 
+
/* --- functions --- */
static gchar*
fetch_dlerror (gboolean replace_null)
@@ -106,6 +114,7 @@
static gpointer
_g_module_self (void)
{
+#ifndef __FreeBSD__
   gpointer handle;
   
   /* to query symbols from the program itself, special link options
@@ -117,6 +126,9 @@
 g_module_set_error (fetch_dlerror (TRUE));
   
   return handle;
+#else
+  return RTLD_DEFAULT;
+#endif
}

static void
@@ -141,9 +153,19 @@
{
   gpointer p;
   gchar *msg;
+  char **pn;

   fetch_dlerror (FALSE);
-  p = dlsym (handle, symbol_name);
+
+  for (pn=special_names;*pn;pn++) {
+ if (!strcmp(*pn,symbol_name)) {
+ p=dlsym(RTLD_NEXT,symbol_name);
+ break;
+ }
+  }
+
+  if (! *pn)
+  p = dlsym (handle, symbol_name);
   msg = fetch_dlerror (FALSE);
   if (msg)
 g_module_set_error (msg);
===cut==
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Has anyone got the remote X-Win32 running?

2008-03-16 Thread Robert Chalmers
I've read the spots off everything I can find about getting X going, and I
have it all up and running sort of.

But only sort of.

 

I have X-Win32 trialling on a laptop, and want to be able to connect to the
Xserver - but I just can't seem to do it.

 

To give you a run down.

 

I have X working.

I have KDE working.

I have the /etc/ttys entry set to: 

ttyv8  /usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon  xterm  on  secure  

..  (I note that kdm is much prettier, and appears to work Just as well)

 

I have the entry in xdm-config commented out.

! DisplayManager.requestPort: 0

 

/root/.xinitrc contains exec startkde

 

Ok.

Using 'xdm' , booting brings up an oversize font LOGIN -PASSWORD display.
Very ugly. (kdm looks nicer, but I'm following the manual)

 

Neither xdm or kdm, let me log in as root.

I have to go Ctl+alt+F1 to get to the good old terminal window.

 

Now, the main problem is .. Which is a real pain, as I do need to connect to
this thing remotely.

I can't connect from the remote laptop's X-Win32 program xterm emulator
program.

 

Has anyone managed to get any remote, xterm emulators going? And how so?

 

Thanks if you can help - I'm almost there.

Rob

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: C compiler issue perhaps?

2008-03-16 Thread Doug Hardie


On Mar 15, 2008, at 05:59, Derek Ragona wrote:


At 09:49 PM 3/14/2008, Doug Hardie wrote:


On Mar 14, 2008, at 18:31, Derek Ragona wrote:


At 06:56 PM 3/14/2008, Doug Hardie wrote:

There is no code running at that point.  Its just sitting there
waiting for me to enter a gdb command.


On Mar 14, 2008, at 15:16, Derek Ragona wrote:


At 05:10 PM 3/14/2008, Doug Hardie wrote:

I have a program I was testing with gdb.  I was trying to figure
out
why c.rmonths was always zero when it should have been 6.   
Stepped

through using the gdb n command.  Here is the output:

(gdb)
215 c.rmonths = (edate - tdate) /
toMONTHS;
(gdb)
223 c.dial_in = u.dial_in[0];
(gdb)
224 c.dsl = u.dsl[0];
(gdb) p c.rmonths
$1 = 0
(gdb) p c
$2 = {fa = 0, pwp = 0, disp_email = 0, imonths = 0, rmonths = 6,
  type = 73 'I', cd = 0 '\0', dial_in = 82 'R', dsl = 0 '\0',
  dsl_kit = 0 '\0', ip = 0 '\0', domain = 0 '\0', n_domain = 0
'\0',
  renewal = 89 'Y', program = I\000\000}
(gdb) p c-rmonths
$3 = 6
(gdb) p c.rmonths
$4 = 6


Notice, the first time i print it its zero.  The second time  
its 6.
What gives here?  I have seen this before but couldn't pin it  
down.

The program is not compiled with any optimization.  It is in a
shared
library though.


It is hard to tell without the code you used.  I would put some
printf's in the code and see what and when that variable gets  
set to

in actual running code.

-Derek


I understand it is waiting at a breakpoint in gdb.  What I meant was
put printf's in your code and run the program and look at the
output.  You can use fprintf's to stderr if your prefer and just
look at the stderr output.

It is hard to diagnose what could be a compiler error, or a coding
error.  Remember in C you can do many things you really shouldn't.
It is also advisable to run lint over your source code too.


All that lint shows is it doesn't like comments using // and lots of
errors in /usr/include files.


This sounds more like a c++ program. c++ does a lot of variable  
initiation in code you usually won't see.


If this is a c++ program, put conditional printf's or cout's in to  
check the code at actual runtime rather than in the debugger.


You may want to use asserts.


Nope.  Very simple c code.  I believe as was pointed out earlier that  
this is a gdb issue.  Once gdb found the right value, both it and all  
the printfs show the correct value.  I changed nothing.  I am a bit  
concerned since this is now in a production system that it may  
eventually start fail again which would have some serious consequences.



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