Re: setup cronjob

2008-09-12 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
Darrell Betts wrote:
 I have wrote a small script put it in my home directory. I am trying to
 setup a cronjob to run it every six hours. When it runs the job I
 receive the error message  /usr/home/test/cronjobs/test.sh: not found
 I have tripe checked the file permissions and they appear correct so I
 am stumped as to why this won't run? Any ideas?

Make sure that the shebang at the top of the script (#!/bin/sh or
similar) points to a valid shell, and that it uses unix-style end of
lines. If a control character or linefeed gets in there somewhere, the
kernel won't be able to find the proper interpreter to run the script,
hence the test.sh: '' not found.

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Re: cd and rm a directory with '^M'

2008-09-12 Thread Wayne Sierke
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 01:28 -0400, DAve wrote:
 Edwin Groothuis wrote:
  I had rsync create a directory with a '^M' in it.
  
  Use command-line completion:
  
  [~/xx] [EMAIL PROTECTED]touch foo^Mbar # that's ^V^M
  [~/xx] [EMAIL PROTECTED]ls -l
  total 0
  -rw-r--r--  1 edwin  edwin  0 Sep  4 13:46 foo?bar
  [~/xx] [EMAIL PROTECTED]rm foo TAB   # autocompletes to 
  foo^Mbar
  
  
 If you find yourself on a machine without a full featured shell you can 
 delete by the inode number. Chuck Swiger saved my bacon with that trick 
 several years ago.
 
 [sysadmin /usr/home/sysadmin]$ touch abc^M
 [sysadmin /usr/home/sysadmin]$ ls -i
 2449500 abc?   2449511 env.sh
 [sysadmin /usr/home/sysadmin]$ find . -type f -inum 2449500 | xargs rm
 [sysadmin /usr/home/sysadmin]$ ls -i
 2449511 env.sh
 
However, note that using find's -x option could avoid subsequent
consternation, embarrassment, or worse. -x avoids having find search
over multiple filesystems which in this case avoids having find stumble
upon files with the same inode num on different filesystems. Relevant to
any type of find criteria, but -inum introduces a nice degree of
(user-level) randomness to the mix.

Of course, the old adage always applies - If in doubt - print it
out! (Not very catchy, is it?)


Wayne


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Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3/PerlMagick

2008-09-12 Thread Dino Vliet
Hi folks,

on my adm64 dual core system running freebsd I get the following error when 
installing the port, /usr/porst/graphics/ImageMagick:

t/write...ok
t/x11/readXlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

t/x11/readok
t/x11/write...Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

t/x11/write...FAILED test 1
    Failed 1/2 tests, 50.00% okay
t/zlib/read...ok
t/zlib/write..ok
Failed Test   Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
---
t/x11/write.t    2    1  50.00%  1
Failed 1/27 test scripts, 96.30% okay. 1/345 subtests failed, 99.71% okay.
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3/PerlMagick.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/kino.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/kino.

the application I'm trying to install at the end is Kino.

Hope anyone can help me out

Brds
Dino




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restricted users

2008-09-12 Thread Don Wilde
Greetings, All -

I want to set up an account for my boy that he can use freely with the
exception that I can turn off his Internet access at will from my
root-privilege account. It would be nice if I could also set up a
limited-access constraint that would allow him some domains with a
white-list file.

I'm using KDE4 on 7-STABLE. I need the rest of the accounts to remain
connected, so a simple ifconfig is not appropriate. He's not experienced
enough (yet :) to be able to reconfigure things for himself, so if there's a
KDE config that I can use that'll be fine.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions! Please reply including my direct
address as I am not on the list subscription.

-- Don Wilde
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Re: growisofs non aligned DMA transfer (7.0R)

2008-09-12 Thread koberne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey,

 I wanted to add a file to an already written DVD+RW (written a day
 before on the same system) with
 
 # growisofs  -M /dev/cd0 -r -T -J -joliet-long -v directory
 
 This produced tons of error messages via syslog as
 
 Jul 11 13:45:30 rebelion kernel: ata0: FAILURE - non aligned DMA transfer 
 attempted
 Jul 11 13:45:30 rebelion kernel: acd0: setting up DMA failed
 
 and the only way to get the system back to a usable state was rebooting
 it;
 
 this is with FreeBSD-7.0R; what I have done wrong?

I have the same problem on all my 7.0-RELEASE servers (I use growisofs to make 
backups
to DVDs). It seems that there was something done in 7 kernel that breaks 
growisofs
when trying to use multisession.

Any ideas when/if this will be fixed?

Thanks,
Nejc
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File Descriptor Leak in Freebsd 4.9 - any known issue?

2008-09-12 Thread punit gupta
Hi,

Has there been any known issue regarding socket-descriptor leak in Freebsd4.9? 

In my application I am using openldap client library to authenticate users with 
ldap-server. Whenever an authentication request comes, the application opens a 
socket to backend ldap server and then hands over the socket-descriptor to 
ldap-client-library. ldap-client-library takes care of communicating with 
ldap-server and later calls 'unbind' that also closes the connection. 

Now, the problem I am facing is this - I observed that the number of sockets 
opened by the application to backend ldap-server keeps growing constantly. 
These open sockets keep lingering even when there is no activity happening for 
a long time (e.g. no authentication request coming for hours). This is many 
times leading to the error kern.maxfiles limit reached by uid ... and then 
system stops functioning. 

I was wondering if there can be a problem with open-ldap-library and it is not 
calling 'unbind' in some cases; but then I observed that the issue does not 
occur when I run same application on Freebsd6.3. Even if there was a problem 
with ldap-library then also how can a socket remain open for hours without any 
activity happening on it - shouldn't it be timing out at some time?

Kindly let me know if you have an idea on what might be happening or what could 
be the fix. Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks,
Punit




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Re: growisofs non aligned DMA transfer (7.0R)

2008-09-12 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, September 07, 2008 a las 09:04:31PM +0200, Nejc S(koberne 
escribió:

 Hey,
 
  I wanted to add a file to an already written DVD+RW (written a day
  before on the same system) with
  
  # growisofs  -M /dev/cd0 -r -T -J -joliet-long -v directory
  
  This produced tons of error messages via syslog as
  
  Jul 11 13:45:30 rebelion kernel: ata0: FAILURE - non aligned DMA transfer 
  attempted
  Jul 11 13:45:30 rebelion kernel: acd0: setting up DMA failed
  
  and the only way to get the system back to a usable state was rebooting
  it;
  
  this is with FreeBSD-7.0R; what I have done wrong?
 
 I have the same problem on all my 7.0-RELEASE servers (I use growisofs to 
 make backups
 to DVDs). It seems that there was something done in 7 kernel that breaks 
 growisofs
 when trying to use multisession.
 
 Any ideas when/if this will be fixed?

I have now filed a bug report as:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=127316
(wait some hours before it will show up)

matthias

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Can't adduser using FreeBSD 7.0 (amd64)

2008-09-12 Thread Froilan Romualdo
Here's my uname -a:

FreeBSD fbsd.its1.localhost.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
amd64

Error upon running adduser:

pwd_mkdb: 14 uid is incorrect
pwd_mkdb: /etc/master.passwd: Inappropiate file type or format
pw: user 'froilanr' disappeared during update
adduser: ERROR: There was an error adding user (froilanr).

NOTE: I already read the FreeBSD handbook and google search the problem, but
I can't see a solution.

Thank you in advance.
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Re: restricted users

2008-09-12 Thread Mehul Ved
On 9/12/08, Don Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I want to set up an account for my boy that he can use freely with the
  exception that I can turn off his Internet access at will from my
  root-privilege account. It would be nice if I could also set up a
  limited-access constraint that would allow him some domains with a
  white-list file.

  I'm using KDE4 on 7-STABLE. I need the rest of the accounts to remain
  connected, so a simple ifconfig is not appropriate. He's not experienced
  enough (yet :) to be able to reconfigure things for himself, so if there's a
  KDE config that I can use that'll be fine.

How about a proxy server? Can that be fine? So the proxy will filter
out unwanted stuff or just block the wholly. I am quite sure that a
beast like squid could do this.
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Re: Wireshark

2008-09-12 Thread gpeel
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:38:50 -0400, matt donovan wrote
 On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Christopher Cowart 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Grant Peel wrote:
   Just attempting to install the port. Something I noticed when the 
install
   crapped out was that it wanted me to use the Force Package Register 
for
   the OpenSSL_Overwrite_Base port.
  
   That port was already installed, what would be the correct method to 
deal
   with this?
 
  I usually only see this error with ports we've written in-house. Usually
  it happens because the dependency check on a specific file is bad. The
  check fails, which causes the port to believe it needs to install the
  dependency, but the package registry gets upset because the package is
  already installed and it doesn't think it needs to be reinstalled.
 
  If these are real ports, you might want to report the brokenness. You'll
  probably find that you can FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=1 and leave it at that
  (though I typically treat it as a last resort and instead opt for fixing
  the port).
 
  --
  Chris Cowart
  Network Technical Lead
  Network  Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT
  UC Berkeley
 
 
 I wrote this but gmail default reply is not reply-all
 
 go to the openssl port and run make replace and it should replace 
 base but I actually don't really suggest it.
 
  since I don't really see a need to even from wireshark which I have
 installed without overwriting openssl_base
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Matt, Chris,

First off, thanks for taking the time to reply :-)

I am afraid however, that you have completely lost me.

This is not the first time I have installed a port, and the reccommendation 
to use 'FORCE_PACKAGE_REGISTER has been seen. Unfortunately, I have no idea 
what port you guys are suggesting is really broken, is it the 
OpenSSL_Overwrite_Base or the one I am trying to install?

If it is the OpenSSL one, can you explain in simple terms how I should deal 
with it?

TIA,

-Grant

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Re: restricted users

2008-09-12 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hello,

Mehul Ved:

On 9/12/08, Don Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I want to set up an account for my boy that he can use freely with the
 exception that I can turn off his Internet access at will from my
 root-privilege account. It would be nice if I could also set up a
 limited-access constraint that would allow him some domains with a
 white-list file.

 I'm using KDE4 on 7-STABLE. I need the rest of the accounts to remain
 connected, so a simple ifconfig is not appropriate. He's not experienced
 enough (yet :) to be able to reconfigure things for himself, so if there's a
 KDE config that I can use that'll be fine.


How about a proxy server? Can that be fine? So the proxy will filter
out unwanted stuff or just block the wholly. I am quite sure that a
beast like squid could do this.


squid + dansguardian are a very good choice!

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Re: Can't adduser using FreeBSD 7.0 (amd64)

2008-09-12 Thread Subhro
Oops it should be pwd_mkdb instead of pw_mkdb

so pwd_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd

Cheers again!!
Subhro

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Subhro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 pw_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd

 Cheers!
 Subhro

 On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Froilan Romualdo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's my uname -a:

 FreeBSD fbsd.its1.localhost.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
 amd64

 Error upon running adduser:

 pwd_mkdb: 14 uid is incorrect
 pwd_mkdb: /etc/master.passwd: Inappropiate file type or format
 pw: user 'froilanr' disappeared during update
 adduser: ERROR: There was an error adding user (froilanr).

 NOTE: I already read the FreeBSD handbook and google search the problem, but
 I can't see a solution.

 Thank you in advance.
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Re: Can't adduser using FreeBSD 7.0 (amd64)

2008-09-12 Thread Subhro
pw_mkdb -p /etc/master.passwd

Cheers!
Subhro

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Froilan Romualdo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's my uname -a:

 FreeBSD fbsd.its1.localhost.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
 24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
 amd64

 Error upon running adduser:

 pwd_mkdb: 14 uid is incorrect
 pwd_mkdb: /etc/master.passwd: Inappropiate file type or format
 pw: user 'froilanr' disappeared during update
 adduser: ERROR: There was an error adding user (froilanr).

 NOTE: I already read the FreeBSD handbook and google search the problem, but
 I can't see a solution.

 Thank you in advance.
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Re: Driver debugging help

2008-09-12 Thread Patrick Lamaizière
Le Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:59:05 +0200,
Riaan Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 I am looking for hints to debug a driver I am working on. I get a
 page fault when running the driver intensively.  The stack trace from
 the kernel dump only goes up to a free command which I suspect is
 being called from my driver. No matter what I do I cannot get a more
 complete stack trace. kgdb says something about the stack being
 corrupt when I do a backtrace/stack trace.
 
 Is there anything else I could use to help me pinpoint where I am
 going wrong?
 
 I have tried memguard but it has given me no information. Maybe I am
 using it incorrectly.

Did you try redzone(9)? If the stack is corrupted it could be a buffer
overflow.

You can ask on freebsd-hackers or freebsd-drivers mailing lists. And
may be show us the code?

Regards.
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(no subject)

2008-09-12 Thread Dino Vliet
Hi folks,

on my adm64 dual core system running freebsd I get the following error when 
installing the port, /usr/porst/graphics/ImageMagick:

t/write...ok
t/x11/readXlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

t/x11/readok
t/x11/write...Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

t/x11/write...FAILED test 1
    Failed 1/2 tests, 50.00% okay
t/zlib/read...ok
t/zlib/write..ok
Failed Test   Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
---
t/x11/write.t    2    1  50.00%  1
Failed 1/27 test scripts, 96.30% okay. 1/345 subtests failed, 99.71% okay.
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3/PerlMagick.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/kino.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/kino.

the application I'm trying to install at the end is Kino.

Hope anyone can help me out

Brds
Dino




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Re: File Descriptor Leak in Freebsd 4.9 - any known issue?

2008-09-12 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:22:15 +0530 (IST)
punit gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has there been any known issue regarding socket-descriptor leak in
 Freebsd4.9?

Since FreeBSD-4.9 is depreciated, is there any possibility that you
could do an upgrade to version 7.0 ( or 7.1 that will be released
shortly)?

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Re: kde4 build time

2008-09-12 Thread RW
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:29:28 +
Desmond Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I finally have kde4 building. How long will the process take? It's
 been two days thus far and it isn't finished.

Impossible to say based on the information provided, but it is
huge. Keep an eye on /usr if it's a separate partition.
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Re: Is the freesbie project dead????????

2008-09-12 Thread J65nko
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:56 AM, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can't reach http://www.freesbie.org/ to official site for the project.

 Has this project disbanded?

Not sure about that.

But the following post on daemonforums.org has a list of *BSD live CD :
http://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=1505#post11017

J65nko
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Re: Driver debugging help

2008-09-12 Thread Riaan Kruger
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Patrick Lamaizière
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Le Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:59:05 +0200,
 Riaan Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

  I am looking for hints to debug a driver I am working on. I get a
  page fault when running the driver intensively.  The stack trace from
  the kernel dump only goes up to a free command which I suspect is
  being called from my driver. No matter what I do I cannot get a more
  complete stack trace. kgdb says something about the stack being
  corrupt when I do a backtrace/stack trace.
 
  Is there anything else I could use to help me pinpoint where I am
  going wrong?
 
  I have tried memguard but it has given me no information. Maybe I am
  using it incorrectly.

 Did you try redzone(9)? If the stack is corrupted it could be a buffer
 overflow.

 You can ask on freebsd-hackers or freebsd-drivers mailing lists. And
 may be show us the code?

 Regards.



Thanx for the reply

I realize, reading your question and my response, that I was pretty vague.
Sorry for that. I will try redzone next and then get back with more specific
questions.

PS. I am always uncertain when to ask  freebsd-questions or
freebsd-drivers/freebsd-hackers.

regards
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Re: Is the freesbie project dead????????

2008-09-12 Thread Gaye Abdoulaye Walsimou

J65nko a écrit :

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 4:56 AM, FBSD1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I can't reach http://www.freesbie.org/ to official site for the project.

Has this project disbanded?



Not sure about that.

But the following post on daemonforums.org has a list of *BSD live CD :
http://daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=1505#post11017

J65nko
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The ftp is still working
http://ftp.freesbie.org/
regards
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enable usb mouse copy and paste from console

2008-09-12 Thread ace wittman
Hi i have a usb a4tech mini mouse, but i cant enable the copy paste
from the console, below is my xorg.conf; please give some tips thanks

protocol : auto
device:   /dev/sysmouse

from kernel conf:

device ums
device uhci
device ohci
device usb


# File generated by xorgconfig.

#
# Copyright 2004 The X.Org Foundation
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the Software),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
#
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
#
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED AS IS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# The X.Org Foundation BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
#
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of The X.Org Foundation shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from
# The X.Org Foundation.
#

# **
# Refer to the xorg.conf(5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **

# **
# Module section -- this  section  is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **
#
Section Module

# This loads the DBE extension module.

Loaddbe   # Double buffer extension

# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection  extmod
  Optionomit xfree86-dga   # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection

# This loads the font modules
#Loadtype1
Loadfreetype
#Loadxtt

# This loads the GLX module
#Load   glx
# This loads the DRI module
#Load   dri

EndSection

# **
# Files section.  This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **

Section Files

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

#RgbPath/usr/local/share/X11/rgb

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
#
#

FontPath   /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath   /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath   /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
FontPath   /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath   /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath   /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath   /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/local/
#FontPath   /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
#FontPath   /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/
#FontPath   /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/

# The module search path.  The default path is shown here.

#ModulePath /usr/local/lib/modules

EndSection

# **
# Server flags section.
# **

Section ServerFlags

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received.  This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging

#Option NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the CtrlAltFn VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12).  This allows clients to receive these key
# events.

#Option DontVTSwitch

# Uncomment this to disable the CtrlAltBS server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.

#Option DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the CtrlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching
# sequences.  This allows clients to receive these key events.

#Option Dont Zoom

# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.

#Option 

Re: enable usb mouse copy and paste from console

2008-09-12 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:27:07 +0800, ace wittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi i have a usb a4tech mini mouse, but i cant enable the copy paste
 from the console, below is my xorg.conf; please give some tips thanks
 
 Section InputDevice
 IdentifierMouse1
 Drivermouse
 Option ProtocolAuto   # Auto detect
 Option Device  /dev/sysmouse
 Option ZAxisMapping   4 5 6 7
 Option Emulate3Buttons
 EndSection

Your mouse is one with a wheel, right? YOu have set Emulate3Buttons,
so you need to press the left and the right button at one in order
to emulate the pressing of the middle mouse button. You should be
able to press down the weel for the same purpose, just comment out
the Emulate3Buttons line. I don't have a xorg.conf at hand to
look how I did this, I'm using a standard three button mouse where
the middle key works as you intend it, and furthermore emulates the
wheel, much more healthy than a real mouse wheel. :-)

Maybe this section can help you:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol  auto
Option  Device/dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
Option  EmulateWheel  true
Option  EmulateWheelButton2
EndSection

Note that you won't need the last three lines, if I remember
correctly.


-- 
Polytropon
From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: File Descriptor Leak in Freebsd 4.9 - any known issue?

2008-09-12 Thread Kris Kennaway

punit gupta wrote:

Hi,

Has there been any known issue regarding socket-descriptor leak in Freebsd4.9? 


I doubt anyone will remember since 4.9 was so long ago.

Kris

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Re: Wireshark

2008-09-12 Thread Mikel King


On Sep 12, 2008, at 5:39 AM, gpeel wrote:


On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:38:50 -0400, matt donovan wrote

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Christopher Cowart 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Grant Peel wrote:

Just attempting to install the port. Something I noticed when the

install
crapped out was that it wanted me to use the Force Package  
Register

for

the OpenSSL_Overwrite_Base port.

That port was already installed, what would be the correct method  
to

deal

with this?


I usually only see this error with ports we've written in-house.  
Usually
it happens because the dependency check on a specific file is bad.  
The
check fails, which causes the port to believe it needs to install  
the
dependency, but the package registry gets upset because the  
package is

already installed and it doesn't think it needs to be reinstalled.

If these are real ports, you might want to report the brokenness.  
You'll

probably find that you can FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=1 and leave it at that
(though I typically treat it as a last resort and instead opt for  
fixing

the port).

--
Chris Cowart
Network Technical Lead
Network  Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT
UC Berkeley



I wrote this but gmail default reply is not reply-all

go to the openssl port and run make replace and it should replace
base but I actually don't really suggest it.

since I don't really see a need to even from wireshark which I have
installed without overwriting openssl_base
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Matt, Chris,

First off, thanks for taking the time to reply :-)

I am afraid however, that you have completely lost me.

This is not the first time I have installed a port, and the  
reccommendation
to use 'FORCE_PACKAGE_REGISTER has been seen. Unfortunately, I have  
no idea

what port you guys are suggesting is really broken, is it the
OpenSSL_Overwrite_Base or the one I am trying to install?

If it is the OpenSSL one, can you explain in simple terms how I  
should deal

with it?



	If you use FORCE_PACKAGE_REGISTER=yes and it still fails take a look  
to see what is actually installed.


pkg_info -ia | grep Open_SSL

	The suggest installing portupgrade. Once that's complete you can   
portupgrade the port related to Open_SSL to see if that steps around  
the issue.


m!


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cvsup mirrors

2008-09-12 Thread Michael P. Soulier
I found this 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/cvsup.html#CVSUP-MIRRORS

and it lists one for me in Canada.

cvsup1.ca.freebsd.org

Unfortunately, it doesn't have RELENG_6 on it. cvsup says it's not there.

Does the mirrors list need an update?

Thanks,
Mike
-- 
Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
--Albert Einstein
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Re: Copying a FreeBSD install to a smaller disk

2008-09-12 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 05:19:55PM -0700, Chris Weiss wrote:

 How would I go about copying an existing FreeBSD installation to a smaller 
 disk?
 
 I've got a 3rd FreeBSD install I can boot from and store temporary
 files on, all the disks are in the same hardware, so there's no
 reconfiguration other than the boot device name and interface (IE
 -SATA ad4 will become IDE ad0). The disk is partitioned using the
 default sysinstall values and the contents of the larger disk will
 fit on the smaller disk, although I need to increase the size of the /
 and /var slices on the target to hold everything (/usr is fairly
 empty, so it'll easily fit on the smaller disk).
 
 For now, we'll say ad0 = new smaller disk, ad4 = boot BSD disk, and
 ad6 = the BSD install I want to clone.
 
 The path I've been going down is to manually partition and slice ad0
 create ad4/mnt/source and ad4/mnt/target and mount /var, /tmp, etc
 from ad0 and ad6 and manually copy the files. But I'm stuck on how to
 handle /, since it'll have dev and proc and such.
 
 Any thoughts on how to do this, or on a completely different approach?
 I'm not aware of any 3rd party tools that'll deal with shrinking
 FreeBSD partitions.
 
 Thanks in advance for any help you folks can give!

Seems like you are generally on the right track, though some of your 
mounting seems backwards to me.

First, as you have indicated, manually slice, partition and newfs
the new disk (ad0) to match what you want to have on it.  If you
are making an identical, just smaller, disk to ad4, then do a df 
and see what slices and partitions are being used on ad4.   Probably
it is one slice, divided into several partitions.   

While you are at it, look at each of the filesystem sizes and make 
sure you will have room on the new, smaller disk.   You want at least
the current used size + 10%.   Really you want more to actually
operate.   

Presuming you want a single bootable slice (ad0s1) which is then 
divided in to partitions for:
 a: /
 b: swap
 d: /tmp
 e: /usr
 f: /var
 g: /home

Do:
  fdisk -BI ad0
Creates a single bootable slice with default MBR (good enough).
  bsdlabel -w -B da0s1
Writes an initial label and boot block on the slice
  bsdlabel -e da0s1
Puts you in edit (vi by default) with the current condition of
the partition label showing.  If it is new, it will only show
a 'c' partition covering the whole available size of the slice.
  Edit this page by duplicating that 'c' line for each real partition
  you want to have and changing fstype from 'unused' to '4.2BSD' on
  the a, d, e, f, g partitions and 'swap' on the b partition.

In the end you will have something that looks about like:

# /dev/ad0s3:
8 partitions:
#   size   offset   fstype  [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
 a:   5242880   4.2BSD2048 16384 32776
 b:  2572288* swap
 c: 783168750   unused   0 0# raw part, don't edit
 d:  1048576*   4.2BSD2048 16384 8
 e:  4194304*   4.2BSD2048 16384 28552
 f:  6291456*   4.2BSD2048 16384 28552
 g:**   4.2BSD2048 16384 28552

You need only specify the sizes.  You can put '*' for the offset
and the bsdlabel utility figures it out correctly.
Also, you can put '*' for both size and offset on the last
partition and it will use all the remaining available space.
Don't do anything with the actual 'c' partition.

Remember that sizes here are in 512 Byte blocks/sectors.
The sizes I have here are for a disk I happen to have handy at
the moment to look at.
  a: 256 MBMount as;  /
  b:   1,256 MB   swap
  d: 512 MB /tmp
  e:   2,048 MB /usr
  f:   3,072 MB /var
  g:  31,096 MB /home

Then do a regular newfs on each real file system a, d, e, f, g
  newfs /dev/ad0s1a
  newfs /dev/ad0s1d
etc  for e, f, g

Once you have the new disk created, I would do the rest all in
single user mode.

Boot to single useri, then

  fsck -p
  mount -u /
  mount -a
  swapon -a

Create temporary mount points for the new filesystems (ignore /tmp
unless you actually have something there to maintain - unlikely)
  mkdir /newroot
  mkdir /newusr
  mkdir /newvar
  mkdir /newhome

Use dump/restore to copy the file systems

  cd /newroot
  dump -0af - / | restore -rf -
  cd /newusr
  dump -0af - /usr | restore -rf -
  cd /newvar
  dump -0af - /var | restore -rf -
  cd /newhome
  dump -0af - /home | restore -rf -

These can take a while, especially the /home dump/restore if
it is large.  

Once you are finished with this you need to fix up 
the /etc/fstab file on /newroot.
After this, when you reboot, as long as ad0 is in front of ad4 in
the BIOS boot sequence, the system will attempt to boot from ad0.
Since there are more than one bootable disks now on the machine,
it should give you a menu of bootable slices from which you can select.

Have fun,

jerry

 
 -- 
 -Chris
 

Re: restricted users

2008-09-12 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 01:19:46AM -0500, Don Wilde wrote:

 Greetings, All -
 
 I want to set up an account for my boy that he can use freely with the
 exception that I can turn off his Internet access at will from my
 root-privilege account. It would be nice if I could also set up a
 limited-access constraint that would allow him some domains with a
 white-list file.
 
 I'm using KDE4 on 7-STABLE. I need the rest of the accounts to remain
 connected, so a simple ifconfig is not appropriate. He's not experienced
 enough (yet :) to be able to reconfigure things for himself, so if there's a
 KDE config that I can use that'll be fine.
 
 Thanks in advance for your suggestions! Please reply including my direct
 address as I am not on the list subscription.

Sounds like you are looking for a proxy server.   Check out Squid.
There are others as well as commercial proxy services. 
You may also want to run it in a jail, though I don't know if
that will work, never used jails other than casual tinkering.

jerry  
  
 
 -- Don Wilde
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Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3/PerlMagick

2008-09-12 Thread Dino Vliet

Forwarded Message: Stop in 
/usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3/PerlMagick



Stop in 
/usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3/PerlMagick
Friday, September 12, 2008 8:47 AM





From: 

Dino Vliet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 





To: 

freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi folks,

on
my adm64 dual core system running freebsd I get the following error
when installing the port, /usr/porst/graphics/ImageMagick:

t/write...ok
t/x11/readXlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

t/x11/readok
t/x11/write...Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

t/x11/write...FAILED test 1
    Failed 1/2 tests, 50.00% okay
t/zlib/read...ok
t/zlib/write..ok
Failed Test   Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
---
t/x11/write.t    2    1  50.00%  1
Failed 1/27 test scripts, 96.30% okay. 1/345 subtests failed, 99.71% okay.
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3/PerlMagick.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick/work/ImageMagick-6.4.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/kino.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/kino.

the application I'm trying to install at the end is Kino.

Hope anyone can help me out

Brds
Dino

***

Hi all,

Solved this.
I had to use google and found an issue with Xlib and where the selftest failed. 
I had to re-enable root logins for my shiny kde4.1 desktop and after that as 
root I rebuild this port and everything went smooth! Now I can finally use my 
dual core power to start manipulating those video files.

Thanks though for the help (no answer got me thinking, it should be something 
obvious:-)

Brgds
Dino




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Audio Production

2008-09-12 Thread m cassar
Does anyone here use freebsd for serious audio/video production work? or
know if there is some kind of community?

i have seen ubuntu studio for a general idea outside windows/osx, but prefer
fbsd over linux. and found most programs in ports, but i would like to find
out more about kernel optimization in that respect and what goes into that
type of dedicated setup.

i am running 7-stable with a custom kernel, where i only added vesa, and
removed some scsi and network drivers i don't have from the generic kernel,
but i figure there must be more settings to tweak than what i saw there in
the generic file.  would there be more settings somewhere else or would you
add them to the kernconf file?

my setup works fairly decent for desktop use, but seems kinda sluggish with
even basic multimedia.

p.s. on a different note while i'm here, how do you go from 7.1 prerelease
to 7.1 release when it is out? when/how do you tell when you stop using
stable-supfile and start using standard-supfile?

thanks in advance
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InstallJammer on Fbsd 7.0 ?

2008-09-12 Thread Len Conrad


Anybody got this running on FreeBSD 7.0?

http://www.installjammer.com/

installjammer-1.2.9.tar.gz

./installjammer

Could not find an installkit for your platform 'FreeBSD-7-x86'.
You must modify this script and define a platform at the top.

==

changed installjammer:

PLATFORM=FreeBSD-x86

./installjammer
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libc.so.6 not found, required by 
installkit

I grabbed installkit1.1.tar.gz but not clear if/how one can compile jammer for 
FreeBSD 7. 



Len

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Re: Wireshark

2008-09-12 Thread Chris St Denis

Grant Peel wrote:

Hi CHris,


Just attempting to install the port. Something I noticed when the 
install crapped out was that it wanted me to use the Force Package 
Register for the OpenSSL_Overwrite_Base port.


That port was already installed, what would be the correct method to 
deal with this?


-Grant

- Original Message - From: Christopher Cowart 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: Wireshark


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I've found this sometimes happens if the port is checking for a specific 
version of a dependancy and the version you have is older. Therefore the 
dependency check fails and it tries to install, but the package manager 
won't let it because of the existing version.


You can deinstall OpenSSL_Overwrite_Base first and it will probebly work 
fine.

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Re: InstallJammer on Fbsd 7.0 ?

2008-09-12 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Len Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anybody got this running on FreeBSD 7.0?

 http://www.installjammer.com/

 installjammer-1.2.9.tar.gz

 ./installjammer

 Could not find an installkit for your platform 'FreeBSD-7-x86'.
 You must modify this script and define a platform at the top.

 ==

 changed installjammer:

 PLATFORM=FreeBSD-x86

 ./installjammer
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libc.so.6 not found, required by 
 installkit

 I grabbed installkit1.1.tar.gz but not clear if/how one can compile jammer 
 for FreeBSD 7. 

Installing misc/compat6x would be a good start.  It would get you that
library, at least.

To be honest, I wouldn't trust an install package that I didn't have
the source for...

-- 
Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
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x3550 ServeRAID-8k and FBSD 7, group limit

2008-09-12 Thread Yury Michurin
We are currently considering to purchase IBM x3550 with ServeRAID-8k, in
order to run FreeBSD 7 with RAID5,
but it is very unclear from what I've saw on the Internet, whether the
driver support on FreeBSD is stable enough for production use,
and I've left with many questions unanswered, with which I hope you'll be
kind to help me =)


1. Is FreeBSD supports the device right after install or I need to recompile
the kernel?
2. Is tools for manage the RAID available? If no, how you rebuild the array
on drive failure (and how to detect it)?

I've just remember i had another unanswered question, not related to x3550:
3. When I've used FreeBSD 6.2, it had a limitation, that a user can be
member only of N groups (don't remember exactly, i think N = 15),
however i couldn't find any official documentation of that issue, nor if it
still exists in FBSD 7, so is it? =)


Thank you very much for your time,
Yury Michurin.
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Re: Wireshark

2008-09-12 Thread Grant Peel

OK,

So I am using https, and, while doing all this, will be connected via PuTTy 
through ssh. Will I be disconnected ?


Deingstalling the port won't kill my connection or cause general weirdness 
to people using https?


-Grant

- Original Message - 
From: Chris St Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Christopher Cowart 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Wireshark



Grant Peel wrote:

Hi CHris,


Just attempting to install the port. Something I noticed when the install 
crapped out was that it wanted me to use the Force Package Register for 
the OpenSSL_Overwrite_Base port.


That port was already installed, what would be the correct method to deal 
with this?


-Grant

- Original Message - From: Christopher Cowart 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: Wireshark


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I've found this sometimes happens if the port is checking for a specific 
version of a dependancy and the version you have is older. Therefore the 
dependency check fails and it tries to install, but the package manager 
won't let it because of the existing version.


You can deinstall OpenSSL_Overwrite_Base first and it will probebly work 
fine.

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Re: cd and rm a directory with '^M'

2008-09-12 Thread DAve

Wayne Sierke wrote:

On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 01:28 -0400, DAve wrote:

Edwin Groothuis wrote:

I had rsync create a directory with a '^M' in it.

Use command-line completion:

[~/xx] [EMAIL PROTECTED]touch foo^Mbar  # that's ^V^M
[~/xx] [EMAIL PROTECTED]ls -l
total 0
-rw-r--r--  1 edwin  edwin  0 Sep  4 13:46 foo?bar
[~/xx] [EMAIL PROTECTED]rm foo TAB  # autocompletes to foo^Mbar


If you find yourself on a machine without a full featured shell you can 
delete by the inode number. Chuck Swiger saved my bacon with that trick 
several years ago.


[sysadmin /usr/home/sysadmin]$ touch abc^M
[sysadmin /usr/home/sysadmin]$ ls -i
2449500 abc?   2449511 env.sh
[sysadmin /usr/home/sysadmin]$ find . -type f -inum 2449500 | xargs rm
[sysadmin /usr/home/sysadmin]$ ls -i
2449511 env.sh


However, note that using find's -x option could avoid subsequent
consternation, embarrassment, or worse. -x avoids having find search
over multiple filesystems which in this case avoids having find stumble
upon files with the same inode num on different filesystems. Relevant to
any type of find criteria, but -inum introduces a nice degree of
(user-level) randomness to the mix.


Good point to remember.



Of course, the old adage always applies - If in doubt - print it
out! (Not very catchy, is it?)


I *always* look at what I am going to remove, *before* I remove it. A 
lesson learned the hard way once, learned forever the second time.


DAve


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Re: Wireshark

2008-09-12 Thread Chris St Denis
I have never tried this with OpenSSL so I can't be certain (I just use 
base openssl) but as long as the libraries are already open, deleting 
them should be ok since the open file handle will remain valid.


Starting a new SSH connection may not work between the deinstall and 
install step, and apache may get upset if it happens to fork a new 
process in that time, but overall it should be ok,


You'll want to restart sshd and apache after the install is done so they 
puck up the new version.



If you are worried about getting disconnected between the 2 steps run 
them as a single command make deinstall; make install inside screen 
(ports/sysutils/screen) or something so it will run to completion even 
if you get disconnected.




Grant Peel wrote:

OK,

So I am using https, and, while doing all this, will be connected via 
PuTTy through ssh. Will I be disconnected ?


Deingstalling the port won't kill my connection or cause general 
weirdness to people using https?


-Grant

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Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Christopher Cowart 
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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Wireshark



Grant Peel wrote:

Hi CHris,


Just attempting to install the port. Something I noticed when the 
install crapped out was that it wanted me to use the Force Package 
Register for the OpenSSL_Overwrite_Base port.


That port was already installed, what would be the correct method to 
deal with this?


-Grant

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I've found this sometimes happens if the port is checking for a 
specific version of a dependancy and the version you have is older. 
Therefore the dependency check fails and it tries to install, but the 
package manager won't let it because of the existing version.


You can deinstall OpenSSL_Overwrite_Base first and it will probebly 
work fine.

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Re: InstallJammer on Fbsd 7.0 ?

2008-09-12 Thread Len Conrad

 Anybody got this running on FreeBSD 7.0?

 http://www.installjammer.com/

 installjammer-1.2.9.tar.gz

 ./installjammer

 Could not find an installkit for your platform 'FreeBSD-7-x86'.
 You must modify this script and define a platform at the top.

 ==

 changed installjammer:

 PLATFORM=FreeBSD-x86

 ./installjammer
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libc.so.6 not found, required by 
 installkit

 I grabbed installkit1.1.tar.gz but not clear if/how one can compile jammer 
 for FreeBSD 7. 

Installing misc/compat6x would be a good start.  It would get you that
library, at least.

To be honest, I wouldn't trust an install package that I didn't have
the source for...

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Re: InstallJammer on Fbsd 7.0 ?

2008-09-12 Thread Len Conrad

 Anybody got this running on FreeBSD 7.0?

 http://www.installjammer.com/

 installjammer-1.2.9.tar.gz

 ./installjammer

 Could not find an installkit for your platform 'FreeBSD-7-x86'.
 You must modify this script and define a platform at the top.

 ==

 changed installjammer:

 PLATFORM=FreeBSD-x86

 ./installjammer
 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libc.so.6 not found, required by 
 installkit

 I grabbed installkit1.1.tar.gz but not clear if/how one can compile jammer 
 for FreeBSD 7. 

Installing misc/compat6x would be a good start.  It would get you that
library, at least.

To be honest, I wouldn't trust an install package that I didn't have
the source for...

the source is here, I'm trying with 1.2.6

http://downloads.installjammer.com/installkit/src/installkit-1.2.6.tar.gz

./configure
gmake

fails with

rm -f libcraplzma0.1.so
ld -Bshareable -x -o libcraplzma0.1.so crapLzma.o CRC.o Alloc.o String.o 
StringConvert.o OutBuffer.o 
FileStreams.o StreamUtils.o LZInWindow.o LZMAEncoder.o RangeCoderBit.o 
C_FileIO.o -lsupc++ -static-libgcc 
-L/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib 
-L/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib -ltclstub8.4
ld: unrecognized -a option `tic-libgcc'
*** Error code 1

Stop in 
/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/build/craplzma.
rm -f libcraplzma0.1.so
ld -Bshareable -x -o libcraplzma0.1.so crapLzma.o CRC.o Alloc.o String.o 
StringConvert.o OutBuffer.o FileStreams.o StreamUtils.o LZInWindow.o 
LZMAEncoder.o RangeCoderBit.o C_FileIO.o -lsupc++ -static-libgcc 
-L/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib 
-L/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib -ltclstub8.4
ld: unrecognized -a option `tic-libgcc'
*** Error code 1

Stop in 
/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/build/craplzma.
gmake: *** [craplzma] Error 1

advice was Makefile, and in the TARGETS list, remove the craplzma, 

done but:

Install miniarc.tcl 
/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib/miniarc0.1/miniarc.tcl
Install pkgIndex.tcl 
/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib/miniarc0.1
Installing header files in 
/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/include
Makefile.shared, line 2: Need an operator
Makefile.shared, line 3: Need an operator
Makefile.shared, line 4: Need an operator
Makefile.shared, line 59: Need an operator
make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
Makefile.shared, line 2: Need an operator
Makefile.shared, line 3: Need an operator
Makefile.shared, line 4: Need an operator
Makefile.shared, line 59: Need an operator
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automagically share knoqueror with ff3-- bookmarks?

2008-09-12 Thread Gary Kline
Is there any way, short of writing my own program, to use the tens of
bookmarks i've set up under konq and drop them into firefox3?  

tia, folks,

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Re: InstallJammer on Fbsd 7.0 ?

2008-09-12 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 12), Len Conrad said:
  Anybody got this running on FreeBSD 7.0?
 
  http://www.installjammer.com/
 
 Installing misc/compat6x would be a good start.  It would get you
 that library, at least.
 
 To be honest, I wouldn't trust an install package that I didn't have
 the source for...
 
 the source is here, I'm trying with 1.2.6
 
 http://downloads.installjammer.com/installkit/src/installkit-1.2.6.tar.gz
 
 ./configure
 gmake
 
 fails with
 
 rm -f libcraplzma0.1.so
 ld -Bshareable -x -o libcraplzma0.1.so crapLzma.o CRC.o Alloc.o String.o 
 StringConvert.o OutBuffer.o 
 FileStreams.o StreamUtils.o LZInWindow.o LZMAEncoder.o RangeCoderBit.o 
 C_FileIO.o -lsupc++ -static-libgcc 
 -L/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib 
 -L/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib -ltclstub8.4
 ld: unrecognized -a option `tic-libgcc'
 *** Error code 1

FreeBSD only has a static libgcc, which explains why -static-libgcc is
not recognized.  You can probably edit the Makefile and remove the
flag.
 
 Stop in 
 /usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/build/craplzma.
 rm -f libcraplzma0.1.so
 ld -Bshareable -x -o libcraplzma0.1.so crapLzma.o CRC.o Alloc.o String.o 
 StringConvert.o OutBuffer.o FileStreams.o StreamUtils.o LZInWindow.o 
 LZMAEncoder.o RangeCoderBit.o C_FileIO.o -lsupc++ -static-libgcc 
 -L/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib 
 -L/usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib -ltclstub8.4
 ld: unrecognized -a option `tic-libgcc'
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in 
 /usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/build/craplzma.
 gmake: *** [craplzma] Error 1
 
 advice was Makefile, and in the TARGETS list, remove the craplzma, 
 
 done but:
 
 Install miniarc.tcl 
 /usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib/miniarc0.1/miniarc.tcl
 Install pkgIndex.tcl 
 /usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib/miniarc0.1
 Installing header files in 
 /usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/include
 Makefile.shared, line 2: Need an operator
 Makefile.shared, line 3: Need an operator
 Makefile.shared, line 4: Need an operator
 Makefile.shared, line 59: Need an operator
 make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
 Makefile.shared, line 2: Need an operator
 Makefile.shared, line 3: Need an operator
 Makefile.shared, line 4: Need an operator
 Makefile.shared, line 59: Need an operator
 make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

Sounds like the Makefiles require gmake, and you ran plain make instead
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Re: logcheck doesn't work anymore

2008-09-12 Thread Greg Larkin
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Marco Beishuizen wrote:
 On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:08:35 -0400
 Greg Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi Marco,

 I recently committed the upgrade to logcheck, and I am looking into
 your problem now.  I'll post back here with details once I've figured
 it out.

 Regards,
 Greg
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 I discovered that when I change the permissions of the log files to 644
 it seems to work. But it seems to me that it isn't very safe to make
 log files readable to everybody.
 
 Regards,
 Marco
 

Hi Marco,

Right you are!  In fact, after my initial logcheck commit, someone
opened a PR stating something very similar to what you noted:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/127255

The submitter's point is that the logcheck user should not be part of
the wheel group, since that also confers the ability to su to root and
read many files that should be private.

A patch has been committed very recently to remove the logcheck user
from the wheel group and change the verbiage in pkg-message:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/security/logcheck/files/pkg-install.in.diff?r1=1.1;r2=1.2
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/security/logcheck/files/pkg-message.in.diff?r1=1.1;r2=1.2

Any file that needs to be analyzed by logcheck will now have to be
readable by the logcheck group instead of the wheel group.

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Re: automagically share knoqueror with ff3-- bookmarks?

2008-09-12 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:57:40 -0700, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any way, short of writing my own program, to use the tens of
 bookmarks i've set up under konq and drop them into firefox3?  

Because I'm using neither of them, just a guess: Can Konqueror
export the bookmarks as HTML file? Then they could be opened
in Firefix 3. Maybe there's another export functionality in
Konqueror or import functionality in Firefox? Maybe via CSV?


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Re: InstallJammer on Fbsd 7.0 ?

2008-09-12 Thread Len Conrad

 
 Install miniarc.tcl 
 /usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib/miniarc0.1/miniarc.tcl
 Install pkgIndex.tcl 
 /usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/lib/miniarc0.1
 Installing header files in 
 /usr/local/src/installkitsrc/installkit-1.2.6/FreeBSD-7-x86/include
 Makefile.shared, line 2: Need an operator
 Makefile.shared, line 3: Need an operator
 Makefile.shared, line 4: Need an operator
 Makefile.shared, line 59: Need an operator
 make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
 Makefile.shared, line 2: Need an operator
 Makefile.shared, line 3: Need an operator
 Makefile.shared, line 4: Need an operator
 Makefile.shared, line 59: Need an operator
 make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

Sounds like the Makefiles require gmake, and you ran plain make instead
of gmake this time.

no, I ran gmake the first time, and tried again with gmake, results as above.

the developer says he's compiled on 4,5,6 and will try to get 7 done next week.

thanks
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Re: logcheck doesn't work anymore

2008-09-12 Thread Marco Beishuizen
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:02:37 -0400
Greg Larkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Marco,
 
 Right you are!  In fact, after my initial logcheck commit, someone
 opened a PR stating something very similar to what you noted:
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/127255
 
 The submitter's point is that the logcheck user should not be part of
 the wheel group, since that also confers the ability to su to root and
 read many files that should be private.
 
 A patch has been committed very recently to remove the logcheck user
 from the wheel group and change the verbiage in pkg-message:
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/security/logcheck/files/pkg-install.in.diff?r1=1.1;r2=1.2
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/security/logcheck/files/pkg-message.in.diff?r1=1.1;r2=1.2
 
 Any file that needs to be analyzed by logcheck will now have to be
 readable by the logcheck group instead of the wheel group.
 
 Best regards,
 Greg
 - --
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I upgraded to the latest version today and now there is a separate
logcheck group. But logcheck still only works when the logfiles have
permission 644. Most of them had permissions set to 600 but then I get
the same error messages as before.

Or should I change the owner of all logfiles from root to logcheck and
then the permissions back to 600?

Regards,
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Re: automagically share knoqueror with ff3-- bookmarks?

2008-09-12 Thread RW
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:48:03 +0200
Polytropon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:57:40 -0700, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Is there any way, short of writing my own program, to use the tens
  of bookmarks i've set up under konq and drop them into firefox3?  
 
 Because I'm using neither of them, just a guess: Can Konqueror
 export the bookmarks as HTML file? Then they could be opened
 in Firefix 3. Maybe there's another export functionality in
 Konqueror or import functionality in Firefox? Maybe via CSV?

You can export bookmarks in a number of formats, but you do it from the
bookmark editor's menus. 
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Disappearing Hard Drive?

2008-09-12 Thread Richard Mahlerwein
I have a puzzling problem.  I'm sure I just missed something simple, but I 
can't figure out what.

I added a drive to my system as Master on controller 2.   After turning back 
on, I found I couldn't see that 80 GB drive on my system.  I turned it off, 
checked all settings, then turned it back on and verified that the BIOS can see 
it - it's properly listed as an 80 GB Samsung as Master on 2.  It sounds 
normal, looks normal and I can feel it spin up.

But I still don't see it on my system to mount it.  I had just done this 
process with a 40 GB drive and it worked just fine, so I knew that I knew how 
to do it.  That one showed up in dmesg and was easily mounted.  For what it's 
worth, my Linux desktop, when I hook this drive up to an oddball USB-ATA 
adapter, acts exactly like it does with every OTHER drive I've pulled out of a 
FreeBSD box - it sees it but hasn't a clue how to mount it properly.  So I 
don't think the drive is a dud or anything.  It was in use until a few weeks 
ago.

I will be verifying the drive is seen OK on another system shortly, but I'd 
thought I'd throw this out there before then to see if anyone has any ideas,.

If someone would be so kind as to point me to some relevant help, I would 
greatly appreciate it.  Please reply to me in addition to the list: I receive 
the list in digest only.

dmesg follows:
Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
    The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Sep  5 02:34:20 CDT 2008
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz (1595.16-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf12  Stepping = 2
  
Features=0x3febfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM
real memory  = 536608768 (511 MB)
avail memory = 511090688 (487 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: D850MV MV85010A
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
acpi0: D850MV MV85010A on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, 1ff0 (3) failed
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Intel 82850 host to AGP bridge on hostb0
pcib1: PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
vgapci0: VGA-compatible display mem 
0xff4e-0xff4f,0xf000-0xf3ff,0xec00-0xefff irq 16 at 
device 0.0 on pci1
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
fxp0: Intel 82558 Pro/100 Ethernet port 0xdf80-0xdf9f mem 
0xf6aff000-0xf6af,0xff90-0xff9f irq 23 at device 11.0 on pci2
miibus0: MII bus on fxp0
inphy0: i82555 10/100 media interface PHY 1 on miibus0
inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:90:27:1b:5f:f7
fxp0: [ITHREAD]
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: Intel ICH2 UDMA100 controller port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata0: [ITHREAD]
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
ata1: [ITHREAD]
uhci0: Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-A port 0xef40-0xef5f irq 
19 at device 31.2 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci0: [ITHREAD]
usb0: Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-A on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb0
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
uhci1: Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-B port 0xef80-0xef9f irq 
23 at device 31.4 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci1: [ITHREAD]
usb1: Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-B on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usb1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: multimedia, audio at device 31.5 (no driver attached)
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
p4tcc0: CPU Frequency Thermal Control on cpu0
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
fdc0: floppy drive controller port 0x3f0-0x3f1,0x3f2-0x3f3,0x3f4-0x3f5,0x3f7 
irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
fdc0: [FILTER]
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
sio0: [FILTER]
sio1: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0
sio1: type 16550A
sio1: 

Re: automagically share knoqueror with ff3-- bookmarks?

2008-09-12 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 01:48:03AM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:57:40 -0700, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is there any way, short of writing my own program, to use the tens of
  bookmarks i've set up under konq and drop them into firefox3?  
 
 Because I'm using neither of them, just a guess: Can Konqueror
 export the bookmarks as HTML file? Then they could be opened
 in Firefix 3. Maybe there's another export functionality in
 Konqueror or import functionality in Firefox? Maybe via CSV?
 

I think konq uses XML; FF uses HTML.  Will check ff3 for an import fn.

 
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Re: automagically share knoqueror with ff3-- bookmarks?

2008-09-12 Thread Chris Hill

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Gary Kline wrote:


Is there any way, short of writing my own program, to use the tens of
bookmarks i've set up under konq and drop them into firefox3?


I don't know how other browsers work - and haven't investigated this in 
years - but the old Netscape/Mozilla way was to store bookmarks as an 
HTML file, e.g. ~/.mozilla/default/xc43whpq.slt/bookmarks.html


Assuming both browsers work this way, maybe you could symlink one to the 
other?


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Re: Disappearing Hard Drive?

2008-09-12 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:40:20 -0700 (PDT), Richard Mahlerwein [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a puzzling problem.  I'm sure I just missed something simple,
 but I can't figure out what.

 I added a drive to my system as Master on controller 2.   After
 turning back on, I found I couldn't see that 80 GB drive on my
 system.  I turned it off, checked all settings, then turned it back on
 and verified that the BIOS can see it - it's properly listed as an 80
 GB Samsung as Master on 2.  It sounds normal, looks normal and I can
 feel it spin up.

 But I still don't see it on my system to mount it.  I had just done
 this process with a 40 GB drive and it worked just fine, so I knew
 that I knew how to do it.  That one showed up in dmesg and was easily
 mounted.  For what it's worth, my Linux desktop, when I hook this
 drive up to an oddball USB-ATA adapter, acts exactly like it does with
 every OTHER drive I've pulled out of a FreeBSD box - it sees it but
 hasn't a clue how to mount it properly.  So I don't think the drive is
 a dud or anything.  It was in use until a few weeks ago.

If you connect the drive to the USB-SATA adapter and then attach to BSD,
does the drive also work fine?

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browser.cache.disk.parent_directory in firefox

2008-09-12 Thread Rich Winkel
I'd like to move firefox's cache dir into tmp, under a user-specific
parent directory.  How can I specify the userid in the argument to
browser.cache.disk.parent_directory in the system-wide firefox.js settings
file?
Something like
user_pref(browser.cache.disk.parent_directory, /tmp/ffCache/$USER);

??

Thanks,
Rich

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Re: automagically share knoqueror with ff3-- bookmarks?

2008-09-12 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 01:50:04AM +0100, RW wrote:
 On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:48:03 +0200
 Polytropon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:57:40 -0700, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   Is there any way, short of writing my own program, to use the tens
   of bookmarks i've set up under konq and drop them into firefox3?  
  
  Because I'm using neither of them, just a guess: Can Konqueror
  export the bookmarks as HTML file? Then they could be opened
  in Firefix 3. Maybe there's another export functionality in
  Konqueror or import functionality in Firefox? Maybe via CSV?
 
 You can export bookmarks in a number of formats, but you do it from the
 bookmark editor's menus. 

Yes!  Thanks to both you gents, RW and Polyt.  In konq there was
Bookmarks- edit [pops up the Edit file].  Then File - Export,
and choose HTML.  Save somewhere until mv to the firefox
directory.

So a lot of messing around, but it saved me centuries of
typing,:)

gary

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Re: automagically share knoqueror with ff3-- bookmarks?

2008-09-12 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:21:01PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Gary Kline wrote:
 
 Is there any way, short of writing my own program, to use the tens of
 bookmarks i've set up under konq and drop them into firefox3?
 
 I don't know how other browsers work - and haven't investigated this in 
 years - but the old Netscape/Mozilla way was to store bookmarks as an 
 HTML file, e.g. ~/.mozilla/default/xc43whpq.slt/bookmarks.html
 
 Assuming both browsers work this way, maybe you could symlink one to the 
 other?

thanks, but there IS  a means of saving konq to html.  i
just/finally had the chain to mail it.

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Are You Looking For A More Effective Way To Advertise?

2008-09-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are You Looking For A More Effective Way To Advertise? For those of us trying 
to promote our business, service, product or whatever else, it#039;s a 
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advertising and some are still dealing with some trial and error issues. But 
when people ask me about a few good ways to advertise one of my suggestions is 
groups like MSN, Yahoo or Google. These groups allow you to advertise whatever 
it is your selling, easily, quickly and without stepping over that ever visible 
spam line. The last thing you want to do when advertising your business or 
product is to annoy people by sending them spam-worthy emails! So what can you 
do on these groups? How does it work exactly? Well most likely you will need to 
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lessening your chances of posting spam. If you are selling car seat covers, the 
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related acts, you are also targeting your advertising by finding the correct 
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correct category for what your advertising then you#039;re probably not 
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categories and millions of subcategories! Although posting to groups is a good 
thing to do, it also can take up a lot of your precious time. So, then what? 
Well there are actual people that will do this for you!. They allow you to 
automatically post your ads on these groups, which saves you incredible amounts 
of time. You can pick when you want it sent out, which groups you want it sent 
to, pick the category and customize your ad to suit your needs. Sounds pretty 
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nbsp;
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nbsp;
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for life. I#039;m sorry, but this is a fantastic buy and everyone should at 
least try it out!
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